1677 Comments
User's avatar
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Governor Desantis and Surgeon General Ladapo are heros of the country, and the world, not just the free state of Florida.

Expand full comment
Jpeach's avatar

Ladapo should be the next Director of the CDC. Florida the Freedom state, leads the way. I agree with Jeff C that this will accelerate states coalescing into 2 factions. Free States and Communist States. Instead of Gray vs. Blue (165 years ago), it will be Red vs. Blue.

Expand full comment
M. Patrick McCrary's avatar

And the analogy of coercive vaccines to slavery holds true when comparing slavery to abortion. Slavers claimed "property rights" just as abortionists claim "reproductive rights" while both positions ignore the other human being in each equation. They're all basically "First come, first served" policies on steroids..."I was here first and your desire for life and liberty is subordinate to my own so you'll take the vaccine if you live beyond the womb which I will decide based on my own convenience in the matter."

Expand full comment
jmsmithmd's avatar

Well said. Just because something is currently “legal” does not make it morally right, as shown by both slavery and abortion.

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

You can’t legislate morality…another gem from my 94-year-old mother.

Expand full comment
Essay33's avatar

With all due respect to your 94-year old mother, all laws are legislating morality, i.e. defining what is right and wrong in a particular place and time. We have jaywalking laws because we have decided as a society that jaywalking is wrong. We have laws against killing people for the same reason. Many states have decided killing babies is not wrong, so they have laws allowing abortion. Others have decided it is wrong, hence their laws against it. Any legal boundary established around behavior is by default a reference to what we believe is morally right and morally wrong. It's literally legislating morality.

Expand full comment
Bubblehead604's avatar

I disagree, Essay. The legislature defines legality, not morality. Hopefully they overlap, but frequently they don't.

Expand full comment
Annette kimball's avatar

MOST laws are barely enforced….including murder! 94 year old mom is on point!

Expand full comment
PJ's avatar

One of the basic principles learned in Public Administration classes.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

A wise woman for sure.

Expand full comment
CStone's avatar

John Adams:

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

The BOOK:

Proverbs 29:2 (TLV) states: "When the righteous thrive, people rejoice. When the wicked rule, people groan." This verse emphasizes the impact of moral leadership on society

Expand full comment
Essay33's avatar

That gets to the core of my point. Morality (i.e. Christian ethos) should be at the core of laws. It's blindingly obvious that is not the case in post Christian America. The cliche passed on by a 94 year old is a throwing up of one's hands, people are evil, don't try to make them be moral through laws.

If you can't legislate morality Moses was silly to relay the 10 Commandments. And we ought not try to enforce variations of laws based on them today.

Expand full comment
Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

"Florida lawmakers, get ready: Pharma and its allies are about to unleash the biggest lobbying blitz you’ve ever seen— money, media, “experts,” hysteria, protests, crisis actors, and false flags. Don’t take the bait. This fight isn’t about medicine, it’s about mandates. Vaccines will remain available. Parents who want them can still get them. Nobody’s banning vaccines."

The great news is that psychopaths won't bother trying to protect other psychopaths.

pHARMa will quickly find another measles case in Disneyworld and terrify the world with it to bring back mandates.

Morality & Personal sovereignty be dammed.

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

Is it morally right for a State to mandate the following non-mRNA vaccines?

DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis)

MMR (measles, mumps, rubella)

Polio

Hepatitis B

I say, don’t allow your distaste for covid vaccines (which I share) find you throwing the baby out with the bathwater. On its face, that is what Florida is suggesting. Which makes for good copy. I get that. But let’s also be mindful in our glee we don’t pave a path back to iron lungs?

Expand full comment
rolandttg's avatar

Do your research. The polio vaccine did not eradicate polio (DDT poisoning for the most part). Redfining polio, and better hygiene were the other 3 tenants behind the myth the polio vaccine worked. Oh, and it also gave us scads more cases of cancer with the inclusion of monkey SV-40 into the vaccine.

Expand full comment
C. Wilson's avatar

Wish I'd read this. I pretty well said the same thing elsewhere.

The plague, Scarlett fever, and other diseases went away more because human hygiene improved than because of medical intervention.

Expand full comment
Mykool's avatar

Spot on rolandttg. Fast forward to the Pfizer Covid Vax, the same Simian Virus 40 was found. "The Defender" 10-25-2023

Expand full comment
God Bless America's avatar

🎯

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

Looks like Trump and I were thinking the same on this one. Now, please, go post on the White House website and please loudly tell Trump to ‘do his research’ ?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-calls-floridas-move-eliminate-vaccine-mandates-tough-stance-you-have-vaccines-work

Expand full comment
jmsmithmd's avatar

Mandates are morally wrong. Informed and voluntary consent is right.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

and ... it would be great if it existed

Informed consent is a great idea... but only an idea

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

Being anti vax for polio, tetanus shot is not a hill MAGA should die on. If that occurs, I’ll be jumping off the train ;)

Expand full comment
Quiltlady's avatar

Polio still exists. They just renamed it. Transverse Myelitis is one name they use. The vaccines did not and do not work.

Read the book Dissolving Illusions By Suzanne Humphries. MD and Roman Bystrianyk for an in-depth explanation.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

Your point is extremely accurate. Renaming dis-eases is part and parcel for the Medical Cartel who promote a fictitious and dangerous solution in Hegelian Dialectic fashion.

Knowing something about health is a lifelong process...

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

Statistics show there are ~ 1,400 new cases of Transverse Myelitis in USA each year, or about 33,000 in USA with the condition at any one time. With 347M people in USA, that means there is 0.00009% of the population suffering from this condition today.

Expand full comment
Garden Lover's avatar

Why would a few minutes old baby need a vaccine for a disease that is passed through either needles (used by other addicts) or sexual contact? That’s what HEP B is for. It was originally created for drug addicts (adults), but they refused to take it. So, instead, big pHarma went to the CDC and got them to add it to the recommended childhood vaccine schedule. And, by the way, the latest data shows that the CDC had information how that shot results in a 1100% (I don’t remember the exact number, but it was 1100 something) higher chance of autism.

DTaP is incredibly dangerous as is the MMR.

Polio? Someone else has already explained to you.

Do your research instead of listening to the lame stream media.

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

I didn't realize how crazy some of you are over older vaccines when I started reading C&C. I can understand fully, the strong resistance to new mRNA vaccines. But extending that to other proven vaccines for polio, mumps, smallpox, typhoid and pertussis? Nah, not going there with ya. I'm Gen X born in early 1970's with the vaccine schedule available then and I'm doing just fine.

Expand full comment
Julie Ann B's avatar

It doesn’t matter! It’s my body, created by God. I make decisions on what’s best for me NOT what a government entity decides is best. Informed consent has been neglected or ignored for years!

Expand full comment
God Bless America's avatar

Looks like we have some bots or trolls… 🙄 and yes Julie, I do agree with you 100%.

Expand full comment
Compsci's avatar

Sorry, but you live in a society. You are part of a society. Your actions affect others. Throughout all history, those who were sick and infected others were shunned—basically quarantined in some horrific (in the modern sense) ways. Your body, your choice—fine, but don’t expect to enjoy the same societal rights of association you now have. I would not force you to take anything, but you cannot force me to accept you in epidemic situations where you might endanger others through your unvaccinated state.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

You are making the case for Sovereignty, and that is the best case to be made.

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

It's your body until your un vaxxed body passes on something deadly to another. We are so far removed from polio days that nobody fears it any longer. 4th Turning 'generation theory' posits that climax wars (to end a winter season and then welcome a spring) occur in Western society every 80 to 100 years, right on schedule where people who recall the last war, die off.

BTW, here is the current vax schedule every single US military recruit receives at boot camp. I disagree with the Covid one.

Adenovirus, Types 4 and 7

COVID-19 *

Influenza (Flu Shot)

Measles

Meningococcal

Mumps

Polio

Rubella

Tetanus-diphtheria

Varicella

Expand full comment
C. Wilson's avatar

Been reading a lot on medical history. "A midwestern doctor" on Substack has some interesting history.

Turns out perhaps Polio is not gone....just renamed. Guillian-Barre and some other situations. They don't need iron lungs anymore. There are other treatments.

I like the idea of CHOICE. I choose my doctor. Mine is an MD with "holistic" on the door. We reflect and educate ourselves. Some won't, but they are also lined up at the all you can eat buffet.

Mr. Childers hit the nail with this one. It really isn't about "health" at all.

Expand full comment
Laura Scott's avatar

Not Hepatitis B for infants - Stupid

Expand full comment
Linda Sartain's avatar

By the time the Polio vaccine came out in the 1950's, Polio had been mutating to a less virulent form. So of course it appeared to be effective.

Expand full comment
Compsci's avatar

Well, tell that to my paralyzed cousin circa 1950’s. The ignorance is deep here….

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

I think that is false, Linda. Polio sprang up in 20th century due to the mass improvements in sanitary health/cleanliness compared to prior centuries. Prior to this 20th century clean-time, toddlers and infants were exposed to polio early, and most all developed natural immunity. Later, when things got clean and no more opportunity for natural immunity polio spike up.

Giving a young person the polio vaccine is trying to MIMIC the conditions the young body did naturally when the world was DIRTY.

Expand full comment
Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

There is no evidence whatsoever that vaccines are effective. Watch the Highwire.

Expand full comment
Jeanne's avatar

Read Dissolving Illusions, it may open your eyes to the things that you thought were “truth” but were not!

Expand full comment
Anthony S Burkett's avatar

No, it isn't morally right. The baby is human autonomy, and it has been taken out of the "forced to comply" bathwater... It's the bathwater that's being thrown out. You can still have your vaccines, mRNA or otherwise... just don't force them on me... or anyone else.

Expand full comment
Compsci's avatar

So you allow your 5 yo to choose “ice cream” for dinner? Of course not. Just as you would allow medical procedures for acute physical conditions and such. Your “autonomy” argument does not hold water in the context of a child. That you can make decisions wrt medical care is fine, but don’t confuse/justify such with the concept of personal autonomy in the case of a child.

Expand full comment
Jenny's avatar

The point of Dr. Ladapo’s argument is ‘mandates are morally wrong.’ No one should mandate what you put in your body.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

Ahhh the iron lung story / That is analogous to the Model A on the Autobahn T'aint a baby bathwater issue. It is knowledge about health.

Most failed the course. Whether you know it or not, you are fear mongering.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

inaccurate assessment / you believe what many were trained to believe

To Summarize / None are safe! None are effective / All are harmful

Some Genocidal Of course there are a thousand details

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

If you read Jeff's stack today, you would see the he does not believe it is morally right for a state - or any entity (workplace, school, federal) to mandate any vaccine, or for that matter anything having to do with bodily autonomy. I agree with Jeff on this matter.

Expand full comment
Matt L.'s avatar

I read Jeff’s stack and listened to the link he provided of Florida AG (black guy) stating ALL vaccine mandates would be lifted in Florida. He kept repeating ALL to rounds of applause. Go listen to it if you haven’t. That is what I’m commenting about. The Florida AG made no carve outs for past vaccines from 50’s, 60’s and 70’s that I believe have protected our society from (polio, tetanus, ect. … the ‘bad ones’)

Expand full comment
CathyRN's avatar

The problem is that many people believe if it’s legal

it’s right.

Expand full comment
Mitch's avatar

"legal, safe and rare" turned into 600 thousand a year despite the existence of birth control.

Expand full comment
Marsha Madigan MD MPH's avatar

Mitch, all too true that abortion numbers are rising. I’m thinking it’s because fetal parts are big business. As hard to believe as that it, Planned Parenthood is known to be selling them.

Expand full comment
Merry McIntyre's avatar

🎯

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

Your assessment is 100% accurate. PP is a criminal racket.

While infertility is at an all time high, fools use language like choice

to rationalize murder. PP is in trouble as the funding is dwindling and has closed key locations...

Expand full comment
Melissa S's avatar

Have you noticed that the "legal, safe and rare" mantra is no longer a thing? The pro-abortion crowd is now proud of abortion. The mantra is now, "Shout your abortion!" Let everyone know how paying to kill your unborn child is a human right. Example: An actress who received a major acting award used her acceptance speech as a platform to attribute her great success in life and her career to aborting her unwanted child. Applauded by the whole room of course and the Left as a true example of heroism.

Expand full comment
Mitch's avatar

I've definitely noticed! This is where things took a turn from abortion as a necessary evil, to abortion as Molochian badge of pride. These people are messed up!

Expand full comment
Linda Whitney's avatar

Celebrities applaud any number of deviant behaviors these days. Is it that they feel their audience base is a bunch of selfish, deluded, borderline psychopaths and they must align with them? I used to love movies but knowing where some of these jerks stand politically and socially has put me off.

Expand full comment
Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Well said.

Expand full comment
David A's avatar

George Washington freed some of his slaves. In his will, written in 1799, he stipulated that his slaves be emancipated upon the death of his wife, Martha Washington. Specifically, he freed 123 slaves that were under his direct control, though this was contingent on Martha's death. Martha, feeling uneasy about the arrangement, freed them earlier in 1801. However, Washington did not free all the slaves at Mount Vernon, as many were owned by the Custis estate, over which he had no legal authority. He was born into a system and numerous of those slaves wanted to stay where they were, as options in world were not at all secure.

"Statists continuously promote “democracy” (defined by some as “two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch”) because they know it is far easier to turn a democracy towards central government power then it is a constitutional republic with individual liberty that is God given, above human law. The current statist ideal is to falsely try and portray the U.S. as founded immorally and built on profits of slavery. (As a small example see recent NY times article that conveyed exactly that, and the many efforts to tear down all the founding Fathers as immoral slave owners.) This is false political extremism and revisionist history, prevalent in academia today. It is also not new, as this great black patriot said in 1863...

“Let me tell you something. Do you know that you have been deceived and cheated? You have been told that this government was intended from the beginning for white men, and for white men exclusively; that the men who formed the Union and framed the Constitution designed the permanent exclusion of the colored people from the benefits of those institutions. Davis, Taney and Yancey, traitors at the south, have propagated this statement, while their copperhead echoes at the north have repeated the same. There never was a bolder or more wicked perversion of the truth of history. So far from this purpose was the mind and heart of your fathers, that they desired and expected the abolition of slavery. They framed the Constitution plainly with a view to the speedy downfall of slavery. They carefully excluded from the Constitution any and every word which could lead to the belief that they meant it for persons of only one complexion. The Constitution, in its language and in its spirit, welcomes the black man to all the rights which it was intended to guarantee to any class of the American people. Its preamble tells us for whom and for what it was made.” Frederick Douglass (June 1863)

From the always free and not a news feed https://open.substack.com/pub/anderdaa7/p/does-absolute-power-corrupt?r=slvym&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

Expand full comment
Fiat Lux's avatar

Douglass was a genius. Thank you for posting this.

Expand full comment
David A's avatar

It has been said that politics is downstream from culture, and culture is down stream from spiritual principles. George Washington also said this. It is incredibly serious and the only way to lasting change. There are reasons nations perish. His quote is at the end...

We are obviously not a world of Saints, so it is necessary to ask, do some systems better protect cultures from this fundamental universal corruption? Remember that if power reveals corruption, the US had passed this test better than many nations. Some on the left often repeat the mantra, “live and let live,“ but remain innocently ignorant of the danger of the system they wish to implement which is inherently duplicitous to this maxim. The US system WAS the best “live and let live” system, specifically due to its constitutional republic - capitalist system, and within any society, but particularly a large non-homogeneous society, this has many advantages. The “let live” part is easily forgotten in socialism, and both the “let live” and the “live” part are discarded in murderous Godless communism, Such power OVER others attracts sociopaths to the government like moths to a flame. And inevitable destruction is just as certain to follow.

Many feel that the great danger of statism, especially on a global scale, is a Global Government of elitist power hungry politicians and un-elected bureaucrats in a position where humans have a horrible track record of Democide. Definition of Democide - citizens Death by own Government, not via wars with other nations.

169,202,000 Murdered: - 20th Century Democide,

133,147,000 Murdered by their own government: Pre-Twentieth Century Democide

128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGA-MURDERERS

61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State

35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill

20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State

19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS

2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State

1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State

1,585,000 Murdered: Poland’s Ethnic Cleansing

1,072,000 Murdered: Tito’s Slaughterhouse

1,663,000 Murdered? Orwellian North Korea

If all the radical statist indefatigable efforts to control society were instead directed to social studies which specifically teach free choice behavior that can be universally shown to engender happiness, such as the common religious ideal “life should be chiefly service” and the principles of eternal virtue, (called the ten commandments in the West, and Satama Dharma, or eternal principles of righteousness, in the East) only then will any earthly utopia be gained. With instant communication of need and rapid commerce, charity driven help could be rapidly delivered where needed all over. This is far more efficient than government, (where the effect is often the polar opposite of the stated intent) and far more liberating for those that engage in such work.

This understanding of true and universal happiness engendering actions and psychology is no small matter, and is so deeply missing in modern social science that failure is inevitable and all systems are doomed. Instead of wisdom, we have flawed people utterly lacking introspection, expensively taught to perceive themselves as elite and teaching others to perceive themselves as victims. These elite seek forced divisive based restitution rooted in confrontation with those innocent yet presumed guilty, often simply because of their color. And, in submission to their own demonstrated to be misery generating unwise personal desires, they often also spread their misery to all social structures, demanding to control every aspect of society and culture. The "March through the Institutions" is real.

Comprehensive studies on universal happiness (actions and attitudes that always eventually produce happiness) vs pleasure, (defined here as temporary capricious desires that only lead to temporary happiness, and often for that individual simply due to the fact that any desired satisfied temporarily removes a restless want from the undisciplined heart, or base desires that if catered to promise temporary happiness but instead enslave, produce misery and destroy happiness) is NECESSARY for society to survive and prosper. (“Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.” ~~George Washington)

Also from the always free not a news feed substack.

Expand full comment
Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

True, there was no "people of different color" clause in the Constitution either.

Expand full comment
VelvetStitching's avatar

Well said!

Expand full comment
Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

I had the same thought. Abortion started as a deontological, "my body, my rights" claim. But vaccines are an example of how they extend it to "your body, my rights."

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

ahhh, and if that logic holds (and it does) then might we apply it to animals???

Expand full comment
Anthony S Burkett's avatar

I say "BOOM" to that!

Expand full comment
Doug Young's avatar

And don't forget. Surgeon General Ladapo is an escapee from the communist state of California.

Expand full comment
Paul Giacomantonio's avatar

Just to know , not all of California sucks . Once you are out of the costal areas ( LA, San Francisco , San Diego , costal areas basically ) the rest of the state is pretty good , you could be in Kansas , just saying . I live in the “Constitutional Republic of Oroville “ , it’s very good here. When I go to the Bay Area to work sometimes , I get a case of moral whiplash.

Expand full comment
Butterfly2510's avatar

I recently went to LA to visit my son and to help him move from LA to Newport Beach. My first night in LA I went for a walk at the UCLA campus because he lives close to there. I passed about 50 people on my walk and not one person said hi nor did they look me in the eye. It was like I was invisible. Granted, I’m 62 white female, blonde hair blue eyes so there’s that against me already right? The next day we go to Newport Beach and I take a walk to the beach and as I’m walking to the beach two people speak to me. One person says they love my jacket that I have on and the other person smiles, really big smile and says I love your hat. I told my son about it and he said LA is absolutely soulless. There could not have been a greater contrast in cities! I’m so glad that my son is in Newport Beach!!!

Expand full comment
L.L. Horn's avatar

Welcome to Orange County. A mostly conservative, friendly coastal area.

Expand full comment
Julie Ann B's avatar

Even though there are some nice and beautiful places to live in CA they still have a horrible governor who is corrupt and rules the state like the leftist he is. Get out while you can.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

Wait until the coalition is in full force. It will all be the same. Get out now.

Expand full comment
Doug Young's avatar

Yep, stuck here in Insane Francisco for work & an aging dad. We do escape to our friends farm in Butte County just down the road from Oroville every few months. Quite a few Trump banners on display during election season!

Expand full comment
Paul Giacomantonio's avatar

That’s right we bought a farm in Oroville but my wife still works in Cupertino , I have my studio in Half Moon Bay . Most of my hip revolutionary friends got vaccinated , bought into the government lies even though to this day they claim to not trust the government .

You are right , lots of Trump signs around these parts . My favorite though was “Jesus 2024” , I set one up at my studio in Half Moon Bay just to see what kind of response I would get from my neighbors . It was very interesting .

Expand full comment
CStone's avatar

Please tell us at least one or two examples of the ‘interesting’ responses!!!

Pretty please???

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

"few" being the operative word. Wait til this coalition forces you to get jabbed. You need to get out now.

Expand full comment
SteelJ's avatar

Everybody knows there is no state that's devoid of dissenters from that state's majority political orientation. So what? You live in a state overwhelmingly populated by brainless, easily manipulated, often hysterical leftists, so that's the state government you have. Just because there are some sane people left doesn't change who is in charge, and sets the rules you have to live under.

Expand full comment
CMCM's avatar
Sep 5Edited

Actually, a LOT of Californians are conservative, perhaps 40% voted for Trump. Unfortunately, the Democrats gerrymandered the F out of the state and have achieved a supermajority rule. I'm not sure what can be done about it at this point. My area has a Republican congressman (Kevin Kiley) who thus far is doing a good job, but Newscum wants to gerrymander him out of his position.

Expand full comment
Hail Ants's avatar

I'm in Marin (where we still wear masks while driving solo) and cannot wait to get out. While I have. family in Idaho, I may end up relocating to the north of me instead--there is much to like in Northern CA. I'll have to check out Oroville!

Expand full comment
TamalpaisRose's avatar

I’m in Marin too. I’m involved in the Marin GOP which has some great peeps. There is a Chad Bianco dinner 9/12 in San Rafael. Come if you can!

Expand full comment
Hail Ants's avatar

thank you! sorry I missed your comment. but I will look for more events hosted by the Marin GOP in the future. Take care!

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar
Sep 4Edited

It won't be good for much longer as the politics there will kill you if you don't get out. Wait til the new coalition forces you to be jabbed or jailed. Don't know how you could live there.

Expand full comment
Silent scorn's avatar

Oroville rocks!

Expand full comment
Bitsy54's avatar

I lived, for 40 years, in “wi e country” 60 miles north of San Fransicko. I fled in 2020 because the entire, beautiful County was comprised of rabid, wokatarian Covidians screeching at me for not wearing a stupid mask while walking outside. Nah, that state is doomed.

Expand full comment
Paul Giacomantonio's avatar

We moved to Butte county in 2020, it’s was night and day different than the Bay Area.

Our new town of Oroville declared itself a “ Constitutional Republic” and declared “ if you want to wear a mask , go ahead , if you want to be vaccinated , that’s ok , but no one can force you to do it in the town of Oroville. Boy did that kick up a shit storm, many news stories called out for the military to intervene, etc . This one little town dared to stand up against the government . Most people did not wear masks . When I would have to go to the bay area for work , it was very strange, everyone looked terrified . I would find a few cool restaurants and places to go that did not require a mask . I have not gone to San Francisco in 5 years . ( I worked there for over 35 years , I am not going back )

Expand full comment
Bitsy54's avatar

Hubby and I are of the same mind: it was beautiful until the libs got pushy in 2008

Expand full comment
Patty D's avatar

Didn’t know Ladapo was from CA. Thanks for that tidbit!

Expand full comment
Doug Young's avatar

He was on staff at UCLA Med School, and wouldn't take the jab, so he headed east w/his family.

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Their loss…our gain!

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

Ladapo is normal so he knew to get out of that hellhole.

Expand full comment
Paula's avatar
Sep 4Edited

I was in his graduating class of 2000 at Wake Forest. He was very visible on campus as a wonderful student leader. Go Deacs!

Expand full comment
Magdalene's avatar

Technically he is from Nigeria

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Praise God he landed in Florida!

Expand full comment
-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I wonder if that’s to come. They’re doing this announcement on purpose before he is head of CDC just to get the libbys all in a panic when he’s appointed head of CDC and is going to “ban vaccines…” I can just hear the screeching now…like nails on a chalkboard but strangely also like music to our ears…

Expand full comment
Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I just hope that this wonderful announcement comes to pass— there’s legislative work here, but it’s a beautiful sentiment.

And FL (red) compare to CA (blue) isn’t even close. Red is too better: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/my-thoughts-on-ladapos-announcement

Expand full comment
Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I thnk Ladapo, based on his speech, would say that the CDC needs to reduce its purview to "education" not "policy implementation." The CDC should be like a library you go to when you are sick and can expect a large library of educational materials as well as real life examples of what works, devoid of propaganda or prejuduce.

Expand full comment
Justin's avatar

Yes, that's a great suggestion for the CDC, and if I remember correctly, that was how the CDC was originally. Over time its mission creep went far beyond its original intent and purpose. Like almost every other agency too.

Expand full comment
IR's avatar

Yes, this was CDC’s original role, to advise, not to force and coerce.

Expand full comment
Michael Framson's avatar

Yes, now the force and coercion will continue harshly in Oregon, Washington and California. And they are really good at it.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

as long as they get all the satanic worshippers out first.

Expand full comment
Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

This is probably why it is easier to burn a house down than dismantle and renovate it suspecting a wide range of termites within.

Expand full comment
MaryAnn's avatar

And mold. Black mold.

Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

What do we need the bloated CDC for anyway? It could be a basic guide but it should never have been allowed to be used as law like it was during the plandemic. Nobody should be forced to follow it.

That made me so mad at my daughter's private school. They just followed without thinking and threw faith in Jesus to the curb when tested. SMH

Expand full comment
RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, and the same for all of the state heath departments as well as other institutions and also businesses for the most part.

Expand full comment
Justin's avatar

It is better to just eliminate or eviscerate the CDC altogether. Along with the FDA too. Both are too corrupted to be fixed without evisceration.

Expand full comment
Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

That is a viable alternative. Start with something new. In fact, this might be a good suggestion going forward. That like term limits, there should be institutional limits. Recognize that after awhile institutions act more like a cancer than anything else and should be destroyed, salvaged, and then a new institution replace it. Everyone involved with the institution should be fired, let go, so that the human nature aspect of "rationalizing ones existence" is eliminated from the equation.

Expand full comment
Justin's avatar

That is all an excellent description of how it should be.

In fact, there were term limits in Congress before they eliminated them.

Institutions and agencies probably originally had limits too, but they were eliminated over time too.

So, term and institutional limits need to somehow be permanent and unchangeable, which most politicians will never do.

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

Fed govt too broke to waste money on this topic. Needs to fix its own problems & stick to its own 3-4 constitutionally designated tasks.

Let states decide.

Outlaw pharma ads & lobbyists

Expand full comment
Reasonable Horses's avatar

I'm ever more impressed with Jeff's scalpel-precise analyses. He cut the vax issue down to perfectly parallel binaries: Mandate vs Choice, Utility vs Morality, Slavery vs Liberty. And now I know “deontological” isn’t about orthodontists. Strong coffee this morning!

We are watching in real time this iron truth play out: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Expand full comment
Reasonable Horses's avatar

Excellent, and yes! Just about the time an issue appears to be black or white, another shade bleeds into the picture.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar
Sep 4Edited

And those libtard states will corrode with crime, filth, greed and deaths from the jabs. Their choice. Better them than us. And make sure they do not cross the line of demarcation into our "land" or there will be a civil war. Let them make their graves and lie in them.

Expand full comment
Jaci's avatar

CDC should never have been or continue,!

Expand full comment
Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Absolutely: Ladapo for CDC! Only someone with his courage will be able to heal the CDC from its corruption.

Expand full comment
Horizons's avatar

The problem is giving one of the factions freedom to continue Islamification. Imagine the former United States divided into Free States and Muslim States and guess how that would go.

Expand full comment
Hail Ants's avatar

I can't disagree with you, though I think a more likely scenario is that the "blue" states end up being vassal states of the CCP. Either way, you'd continue to have unchecked immigration of low trust society people, with predictable results.

Expand full comment
User's avatar
Comment deleted
Sep 4
Comment deleted
Expand full comment
RunningLogic's avatar

You lost me at Islamists having “some morality.” 😕

Expand full comment
User's avatar
Comment deleted
Sep 4
Comment deleted
Expand full comment
RunningLogic's avatar

Nor for their restraint when they get the urge to rape children and women 😑

Expand full comment
CMCM's avatar

Au contraire. I worked in Iran for 2 years and there was a LOT of opium and a lot of people were addicted to it. There were places to go smoke it (yes, opium dens), and addicts could get a prescription for opium and obtain it from pharmacies.

Expand full comment
CStone's avatar

What in the world?

So. You’re an Islamist, I take it…..

The cowardly, ‘using children as a shield’ , rapists, murderers are ‘better than’?

Do you have what they call ‘a boy that you sexually abuse in your house, or do you abuse a goat?

Expand full comment
Based Florida Man's avatar

Look into (((who))) pumped muslims into Henry Ford's dearborn area for complaining about their overt running the financial industry.

Expand full comment
Garry Blankenship's avatar

I'm a huge Ladapo fan as well, but also of RFK, Jr. and the battle he is currently waging against such a huge entrenched foe.

Expand full comment
Astragale's avatar

Yep.

Red: freedom & prosperity. Pursuit of happiness!

Blue: masks; injections; adverse effects; sudden deaths; confused & mutilated children; filth; poverty; high crime; unbridled political corruption.

Expand full comment
Betsy Frost's avatar

I take it a step further. This is the "4th Turning". We can pray for a morally correct outcome going forward.

Expand full comment
Lisa Runquist's avatar

But then the question for us still in red states is how much time so we have to find a new home and which state to pick????

Expand full comment
Nothingtoseehere's avatar

I hate to throw cold water on this, but I think I have to. Pediatricians have been so thoroughly brainwashed, that the vast majority refuse to see kids who do not follow the vax schedule completely. In the red state I live in, my daughter has been unable to find a pediatrician who would accept them into their practice unless she agrees to follow the schedule. Unless pediatricians grow a spine, nothing will change

Expand full comment
JenMcK's avatar

Well, we have been anti vax long before it was de riguer to be so, my kids (21 on down) have never had any. You can find docs, they are out there. You ask at chiropractor's offices, they often can have a recommendation. You look for family practices, you can find independent registered nurse practitioners. You don't _have_ to go to a pediatrician to get medical care. Always remember that pediatricians get massive bonuses if their practices are all currently up to date, they have no incentive to grow a spine, they don't care.

Expand full comment
daverkb's avatar

This was one of the big bomb realizations to come out of the Covid Scam, that doctors and hospitals were being financially incentivized to do the will of the state instead of putting the interests of the patient first. The medical profession caved en mass. And in making money incentives their idol, the medical profession made the state their god.

Expand full comment
Mitch's avatar

the government's control over physicians was inevitable once Medicare was started. It's just been a slow descent into medical slavery since then.

Expand full comment
daverkb's avatar

As a boy, I remember that the then independent medical profession was staunchly opposed to any form of socialized medicine because the doctors knew that the medical profession would lose its autonomy (Liberty). Slowly the doctors caved because monetary induced consideration became their god. In short, the medical profession succumbed to corruption. And now, many doctors are willing to take money even if it kills or maims there 'customers'. That is the dark lesson of the Plandemic.

Yes, we are now longer patients. We are now tokenized ciphers in a big industrial complex largely state run.

Expand full comment
Aryenis's avatar

That may make the financial incentive more direct than it was, back at the beginning of medicare.

The problem initially was patients, esp older patients, who could not pay for the care they needed. So they did not consult doctors when they should have. And doctors and hospitals were forced into the conundrum of how much care could they afford to give at no charge, without putting themselves out of business.

Direct financial incentives to medical institutions and doctors came later.

Expand full comment
MarshaLouise's avatar

Also, with all the medical associations, many doctors do not operate autonomously.

Expand full comment
Mitch's avatar

It used to be that the doctors were all in partnerships or doctors' groups, but now they usually work for large hospitals or health groups where they are not in charge.

Expand full comment
Dr Jen | Syringa Wellness's avatar

More young parents need to dust off the Dr mendelssohn book, "how to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor"

Expand full comment
JenMcK's avatar

That was absolutely one of my go to books when my kids were young! He was such an awesome doctor, he had many more books than that one. Dissent in Medicine was very good as well.

Expand full comment
Nothingtoseehere's avatar

I will encourage her in that direction. Pediatricians DO get bonuses for vaxxing, and they also say (can't confirm) that their insurance is at risk if they don't vaxx. Sounds like there is an underlying problem, then, with both doctors and insurers that can't be fixed by a state removing all mandates. I hope I am wrong.

Expand full comment
JenMcK's avatar

There is definitely a massive underlying problem, that's not going to be fixed in a jiffy unfortunately. You might have her look for a family practice osteopathic doc, if you can find a direct practitioner (one who doesn't deal with insurance) even better. It can be a bit pricey out of pocket but if you can find one it's quite a load off your mind.

Expand full comment
Margot Wooster's avatar

Jen, hopefully that will be the wave of the future.

Expand full comment
Mitch's avatar

will it be prudent legally for an insurance company to pay bonuses to physicians based on vaccine coverage, if mandates are made illegal?

Expand full comment
Chris's avatar
Sep 4Edited

Can you show me a source of this claim?

Always remember that pediatricians get massive bonuses if their practices are all currently up to date, they have no incentive to grow a spine”

Expand full comment
Nothingtoseehere's avatar

I did some research on both Grok and Perplexity. What is kind of stunning is that the output of both searches almost mimicked each other, even in word choice. That sure makes me suspicious. Here is something that caught my eye: "Insurers typically rely on recommendations from government bodies such as the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), and changes in these guidelines immediately impact insurance coverage and incentives for providers".

so here is where the power lies. Change ACIP (in progress), they change the vaccine schedule, or make some optional, and then the insurance companies get cover to change their reimbursements, and then pediatricians will have the freedom to recommend what they think is best. Sounds like the house of cards starts with ACIP.

Expand full comment
MaryAnn's avatar

I see the pro-vax sentiment disappearing if insurance coverage no longer includes vaccines and people have to actually pay for the shots. I wonder if public health clinics (taxpayer funded) will dispense the poison to those who must have their toxins.

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Source: Liberty Counsel

Doctors Received Bonus Payments to Administer COVID-19 Shots

Apr 21, 2023

According to California’s DHCS, $350 million in incentive payments was devoted to injecting the state’s 14 million Medicaid beneficiaries with the COVID shot from September 2021 to February 2022. Out of the $350 million, half came from federal taxpayer dollars and the other half came from California state taxpayers, the DHCS stated in a press release. Specifically, $200 million went to paying out financial rewards to health care providers who met certain performance marks raising the percentage of patients who had received the COVID-19 injection.

Expand full comment
Chris's avatar

Ok that makes sense for Covid shots. Is there any evidence that pediatricians are incentized for other vaccinations like MMR or whatever?

Expand full comment
Bitsy54's avatar

Absolutely! The doctors are paid bonuses if, I’m not certain this is the exact percentage, say 75% of their patients are vaxxed. This is why you will be “fired” from a greedy practice that wants you off the patient list in order to maintain 75% compliance . I have no faith in the new Family Practice doctor and only go to my eyeglass doctor and an orthopedic doctor when I had a fractured ankle that needed pins and plates. I’m treating my ailments with fresh air, exercise and diet. A few supplements to aid heart and that’s it.

Expand full comment
JenMcK's avatar

This article explains the morass of financial ties pretty well https://thevaccinereaction.org/2024/10/doctors-cash-in-the-hidden-profits-behind-pediatric-vaccinations/ They don't tend to couch it in "your kids are worth money if they're all jabbed" but the insurance companies regard it as a standard of care. If you don't adhere to what they (both insurance and pediatricians) consider the proper standard of care then you are a non-compliant parent and want you out of their practice. Even when the shots offered are at low or no cost to the parent due to medicare the office can still charge medicare for appointment visits and the shots themselves so they are still making money. This was going on long before Covid, that's just the spark that made it more noticeable.

Expand full comment
Sherry 1's avatar

Who pays them those incentives to follow the horrific vaccine schedule?

Expand full comment
Cheryl Moore Amelang's avatar

My father was child hood friends with a now retired director of Baylor College of Medicine. When my father was diagnosed with cancer, this senior doctor told me to do whatever I could to prevent my dad from going the chemo route. He suggested a major diet protocol and explained to me what I already had come to the knowledge of. He told me he entered medical school to help people as a young man. But by the time he retired at Baylor he had seen the corruption of money enter the system and it was not the same anymore. No longer could they teach how to help people but they had to push the new narrative involving the pharmaceuticals represented by big companies. I know I am writing to the choir here. But I just wish my Dad had listened to me and could witness what is happening in our world today. He would have made different choices I am sure. I am so thankful we have been able to protect most of our children from vaccines. It is so incredible to be witnessing these major events. Praise God!

Expand full comment
Free in Florida's avatar

Cheryl, your comment about “major diet protocol” reminded me of reading in Lance Armstrong’s book, “It’s Not About the Bike” of his cancer journey. His first stop was MD Anderson, where the oncologist told him he could cure him but he’d never ride a bike again. Lance did more research and found an oncologist in Indiana (can’t remember the facility name) who said his goal was two-fold: cure Armstrong but also have him continue his cycling career.

One of the first things that doc did was to recommend a nutritionist! Armstrong practically downed the entire crop of broccoli for the year and was convinced that the entire protocol worked for his cure. So, agree 100%. MAHA & MAGA!

Expand full comment
Cheryl Moore Amelang's avatar

I’ll have to look into his book! Very cool. Thanks for sharing!

Expand full comment
CHop's avatar

Check out this book too. I didn't have cancer, but it's the same concept. I've done the liver cleanse & I know it worked because no more headache after 1 glass of wine 😉

The Complete Cancer Cleanse: A Proven Program to Detoxify and Renew Body Mind and Spirit by Cherie Calbom (2001-01-01): Cherie Calbom: Amazon.com: Books https://share.google/d3LOfuOezrXIWq7HH

Expand full comment
Cheryl Moore Amelang's avatar

Thanks so much! I just looked at it and decided to order. I look forward to learning what wisdom the writer has to offer. Many thanks for taking the time to share with me! Have a great weekend and life!

Expand full comment
Free in Florida's avatar

You’re welcome, Cheryl. It’s actually a very good read & it sure gave a life lesson on not accepting just one approach to curing cancer - or anything else for that matter. There’s always someone who can think outside the box and who treats the patient as a real person. Of course the trick is finding him. But another lesson is also there - do some good research of your own.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

I was diagnosed with a cancer in 2020 and offered and took immunotherapy, another scam, until I was given wisdom as to what had caused the facial palsy to start with. Not one doctor ever asked me about my diet.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/sodium-nitrite-e250-the-poison-in?utm_source=publication-search

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Unfortunately, diet and nutrition are not a part of medical school curriculum from what I understand. Perhaps that has changed. One can only hope.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

There was a radio programme which my wife and I heard about student doctors being introduced to food and farming. As far as I am concerned food and farming is a key to good health. We need good cooks too, doctors I can generally do without.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

They never do. I hope you are feeling great and doing well.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

Thank you Lori. It is quite possible that the immunotherapy is the cause of my thyroid issues. I had Nivolumab which is given according to Wikipedia an 8% likelihood of hypothyroidism. Statistics are misleading but nevertheless...

I have been a bit more energetic lately though which is a small encouragement.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

The good news is you are more energetic and that is encouraging. Progress, albeit small is still progress. And still a win! Sending thoughts and prayers that every day is better than the day before and that you continue to make strides. All the best to you Baldmichael!

Expand full comment
Karmy's avatar

That’s because nutrition is not a priority in medical school.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

Yes, hardly taught at all I understand.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

Knew someone who graduated from Baylor medical school. She had no love for people at all and was a very nasty and self absorbed person. She is single to this day as no one wanted to be with her. I asked her why in the world did you want to be a doc when you don't like people. Her answer was, 'the money is excellent". She lives on the water in Ft. Lauderdale in a big house all alone. She endorsed the jabs too and made sure her nephews (2 of them) got all the boosters.

Expand full comment
Starsky's avatar

You know, some of us are “single to this day” due to certain traumas suffered in life that have made it very, very difficult to build healthy relationships. Just because we’re single doesn’t mean we are nasty and “no one wants to be with us.” Some of us chose poorly, got very badly burned, and don’t wish to repeat the experience. Just sayin’.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

I never made the general statement that bc someone is single they are nasty and that no one wishes to be with them. I cited one example of someone I knew personally. This was not directed at you; I don't know you so I could I comment on your life?

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

Amen.

Expand full comment
Karkar's avatar

Because then pediatrician’s would have nothing to do. The good news is family medicine and a family doctor ( I have found, over the years) is far better anyway. Many pediatricians, much like veterinarians , base their practice off vaccines- it becomes the bread and butter.

Expand full comment
Cousin Clem's avatar

Yes. There is NO reason to be dragging your child to doctors for "wellness" visits. If the kid is feeling fine and you are caring for your child correctly, why do you need some doctor to be examining them? The only reason to take a kid to a pediatrician is have them injected with more toxins, aka vaccines.

Expand full comment
MaryAnn's avatar

Karkar, or filet and lobster 😁

Expand full comment
Jack's avatar

Actually the very opposite,is true. The costs of stocking and administering most vaccines FAR exceeds most reimbursements. Many pediatricians now give their patients a prescription to obtain a given vax from the local CVS or Walgreens

Expand full comment
Carolyn's avatar

It is more from a liability angle than anything else. If the prescription is filled by the pharmacy, they still get credit.

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

That brainwashing goes dark and deep.

Expand full comment
Jeff C's avatar

Respectfully, I'd say unless parents grow a spine nothing will change. The onus is on them, not a corrupt and irredeemable profession.

There's no law that says a child must see a pediatrician. There are holistic physicians, osteopaths, and there are still some family practitioners out there. There's urgent care centers if needed. There's no law that says you must have "well baby check-ups", yearly childhood physicals, or that you must follow "doctors orders". None of this stuff existed when I was a kid, parents took a kid to the doctor when they were sick, not when they were well.

Of course there are laws against child neglect which is why it's important for parents to be informed and seek help when it's warranted (plus it's just what good parents do). But this notion that being a "good parent" requires adults to take their kid to the doctor once a year to be injected full of poisons and questioned regarding their parenting ability is a modern invention.

Parents think it's required because they've been indoctrinated to think that. They have been brainwashed to think they are unqualified to make decisions regarding their own child's well-being. They have been conditioned to not trust their own instincts. Again, this is a modern invention, and it wasn't done for the kid's benefit but the medical industry's benefit.

The last time our kids saw a pediatrician was 2007 when our oldest was about five. They lied to us about the shots required for school (said the whole schedule was required, not just the specific ones called out in state law) and demanded he take them all. The nurse practitioner whipped out a AAP questioner and started asking my young son questions such as if he wore a helmet when bicycling. She started asking us questions about the safety of our house. I realized she thought she was a social worker and we were idiots, who she expected to do what we were told.

We walked out mid-appointment and never went back. Things worked out fine though it was inconvenient at times (e.g. longer drives to a holistic physician, sometimes higher out of pocket expenses). However, it requires parents to think for themselves and not outsource their kid's health to an alleged "expert".

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Amen! My 94-year-old mother has never had a vaccine nor been on a long term prescribed medication.

Expand full comment
Cheryl's avatar

In the "old days" (60-70's), we only saw a doctor if we were sick (seriously sick, not common colds.) I have vague memories from about 5-6 years old of a doctor who CAME TO OUR HOME! Only when I got to high school did I have to have an annual sports physical in order to participate.

Expand full comment
MaryAnn's avatar

Jeff C: This! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Expand full comment
PamelaZelie's avatar

Great witness. If I could do it, all over again, my children would never have been vaccinated or been seen by a pediatrician. I would have found a family practitioner I could trust.

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Jeff,

Well said, and well done! It's what every thoughtful, loving parent needs to do when confronted by these poison pushers.

Expand full comment
Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Yes that is so true. Sadly. I would love to see a rise of holistic docs that were affordable.

Expand full comment
Roger Beal's avatar

America's medical insurance cartel will not allow that to happen.

Expand full comment
Nancy Parsons's avatar

With a "no mandates" rule, those pediatricians would be in violation. I believe that day is coming, but I also believe it won't come without a fight. There are people who are terrified of the freedom of others, while demanding unbridled license for themselves.

Expand full comment
Dena's avatar

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/do-doctors-make-money-off-vaccines-a-look-at-incentives-and-bonus-structures-5903236?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos1&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share

Pediatricians are compromised, they are incentivized to give vaccines. They must reach a certain threshold % in their practices, otherwise no bonus. That’s why many don’t accept vaccine hesitant families.

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

great article!

Expand full comment
Dawn Ceylong's avatar

Don’t need a pediatrician. Good Family practice or Family practice nurse practitioner

Expand full comment
william howard's avatar

Mary Bowden (Houston) saved our grand children

Expand full comment
Marilynne Martin's avatar

It is a good point, HOWEVER, both the medical profession and insurance industry is regulated by state agencies. So technically DeSantis and Ladapo have the authority to make sure this doesn't happen in Florida through regulation/rule changes for doctor licenses and also insurance licenses.

Expand full comment
Kathy's avatar

I don’t know about your town, but mine has a family clinic run by nurse practitioners that are open to whatever decisions are made by the family. They don’t push anything. Who needs a pediatrician if they are going to push dangerous, vaccines, and drugs, and have no solutions for helping the children so badly injured? What good are they really? If your kid get in a car accident, hospitals are good at that stuff. If your kid gets an infection, any family clinic can prescribe an anabiotic if necessary. And don’t get me started on the pediatricians professional societies which are 100% ruled by Pharma.

Expand full comment
PamelaZelie's avatar

You don’t need a pediatrician. You’d be much safer with a general practitioner.

Expand full comment
Skeptical Actuary's avatar

No kid needs to see a pediatrician. Just take them to a family practice doctor.

Expand full comment
Candyce Byrne's avatar

They demand it because they are bribed to with kickbacks and forced to by their corporate employers and various medical boards and bodies that threaten their licenses. Once liability for vaccine injuries is re-established, those issues will go away. The speciality is on the brink of destruction if things don’t change.

Expand full comment
Bitsy54's avatar

You do know that the whole “well baby/child” bs was started to PUSH VACCINES! As long as there is Urgent Care, Telemedicine and Emergency rooms your child will be better off not being so med staff person’s Guinea pig.

Expand full comment
Gym+Fritz's avatar

So, the American Medical Association comes out strongly against Florida Man’s new vax policy, and expects to be taken seriously? Maybe 20 years ago it would have mattered.

But since the AMA came out full force to support the trans-crazies, it makes one wonder - what else are they so wrong about? And why and how is the AMA making such God-awful decisions? Doesn’t the AMA understand such obvious (political / financial?) errors undermine all the good they could / should do?

Expand full comment
STH's avatar

What else are they wrong about? STATINS

Expand full comment
Ruth H's avatar

It’s easier to ask what have they been right about?

Expand full comment
Carolyn's avatar

Again, all people have to do is refuse to take them. Grow a backbone and stop being lazy. Do not EVER give up your right or responsibility for your health care nor your children's to the government/medical establishments or pharmaceutical establishments. The saying "just say no" is the truth.

Expand full comment
Skeptical Actuary's avatar

What if you care about other people taking poisons unknowingly?

Expand full comment
Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

yes, now that you mention it!

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

SSRIs

Expand full comment
CStone's avatar

Most likely EVERYTHING.

Expand full comment
Steenroid's avatar

They are probably wrong about a whole lot of things. Especially medical decisions where some company is making huge amounts of money and the margins are large like vaccines.

Expand full comment
Sherry 1's avatar

…and they receive money from Pharma?

Expand full comment
Ceashel's avatar

It turns out Tylenol does a number on your kidneys if taken over time?

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

And liver

Expand full comment
CStone's avatar

Have you thought about how, as soon as they rolled out Tylenol and Ibuprofen, they started talking about how ‘dangerous ‘ aspirin was?

I wonder what they are aiming for this time, by doing the same campaign against Tylenol and Ibuprofen????

Expand full comment
Penny North's avatar

The AMA is only interested in power. Not your health or safety.

Expand full comment
Deb's avatar

And money!

Expand full comment
Tonya's avatar
Sep 4Edited

The current president of the AMA, Bobby Mukkamala, is a former resident of Genesee County, Michigan. (Think Flint, but of course he lived in the more affluent suburb of Grand Blanc.) He pushed for mask mandates for kids so schools could reopen "safely," even though the poorest kids in the city of Flint missed the entire 2020-2021 school year. And he held a pop-up vaccination clinic for covid vaccines in his front yard.

EDIT: He also was diagnosed with — and had surgery to remove — a brain tumor in 2024.

Expand full comment
Roger Beal's avatar

The wealthy suburb of, in English", Big White. How appropriate is that.

Expand full comment
Tonya's avatar

Well, just wealthy-(er) than Flint. That's not saying much. Also, Mukkamala and a lot of other medical professionals in the county are NOT white, so…

Also, the name probably comes from whatever the Ojibwa called the area, and the French trappers translated it.

And one of the primary reasons Flint has a large black population is because of the opportunities afforded to them working in the automotive industry. But once that moved away for economic reasons, those left behind struggled.

Not everything is about race, and when it is, it's more complicated than “whites oppressing blacks.”

Expand full comment
Marty Kiner's avatar

Flint was a very nice city many years ago. So was Pontiac. General Motors was one of, if not thee biggest employer. Then you had suppliers, shipping, rail, transportation etc. Add to that all the stores and restaurants that attracted workers. When GM shut down the factories the cities withered and died.

Expand full comment
Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

Pontiac Motors in Pontiac, Mi was destroyed by the unions that cost GM so much that they couldn't afford to build cars there anymore.

Expand full comment
Tonya's avatar

My dad was a “shop rat,” and the job provided a comfortable living for our family of six.

Flint also has a very rich history, and one of its greatest philanthropists was C.S. Mott, who — from what I can gather — was not overly concerned about amassing wealth, and was fair to workers and concerned about the community in which he lived.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

well, he has kamala in his name so theres that.

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

good catch!

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

Was anything left? Do you think having -kamala at the end of one's name will cause a problem? :)

Expand full comment
CStone's avatar

Wow

Expand full comment
Cousin Clem's avatar

The AMA was created to protect the Rockefeller petroleum based allopathic medical cartel. Their goal was never protection of citizen's health.

Expand full comment
CuiBono?'s avatar

🎯 I came here to say the same thing - thank you! Morris Fishbein (head of AMA for decades in the early to mid-1900s) was corrupt to the core. Very interesting reading about him in “Outsmart Your Cancer” - one of the best books I’ve ever read exposing how corrupt our *entire* medical system is.

Expand full comment
Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

Another good read is "The Cancer Cure That Worked". Equipment that does the same thing is at harmonicresearch.org.

Expand full comment
Daisy's avatar

Another good book that exposes Fishbein and the AMA is "When Healing Becomes a Crime" by Kenny Ausubel.

Expand full comment
rolandttg's avatar

100% correct. And I have done my research.

Expand full comment
Free in Florida's avatar

Gym+Fritz - Only about 15% of physicians even belong to the AMA!!! So when a big pronouncement comes out that the American Medical Assoc thinks this or that - yawn…… And covid sealed the coffin.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3153537/

Expand full comment
MarshaLouise's avatar

This is interesting as I’m certain that doctors in Ontario, Canada, for instance, cannot operate outside the medical authority OMA, and all permissions to deliver drugs, etc., are valid only within their regulatory framework. Quite a difference.

Expand full comment
MarshaLouise's avatar

The medical associations are middlemen for providing pharma drugs to doctors (patients). They get a big chunk of money for pushing those drugs and they allow kickbacks when doctors do as they’re told.

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Source: Liberty Counsel

Doctors Received Bonus Payments to Administer COVID-19 Shots

Apr 21, 2023

According to California’s DHCS, $350 million in incentive payments was devoted to injecting the state’s 14 million Medicaid beneficiaries with the COVID shot from September 2021 to February 2022. Out of the $350 million, half came from federal taxpayer dollars and the other half came from California state taxpayers, the DHCS stated in a press release. Specifically, $200 million went to paying out financial rewards to health care providers who met certain performance marks raising the percentage of patients who had received the COVID-19 injection.

Expand full comment
Cheryl Ebersohl's avatar

So what has the CDC done for the citizenry, anyway? Do we even need that agency? And we can dump the AMA also.

I imagine most agencies were just set up to shill for Big Pharma.

Expand full comment
Mayor's avatar

The American Academy of Pediatrics spoke out against the CDC removing the covid shot from the childhood vaccine schedule.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

of course they did. they are demons in white coats.

Expand full comment
RunningLogic's avatar

Money grubbers 😡

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

Trying to stop all exemptions nationwide.

Expand full comment
Rob's avatar

The American Medical Association is a guild. A guild's responsibility is to support the business.

Expand full comment
Melissa S's avatar

Or a union. But American Medical Association just sounds better. Sounds more professional....

Expand full comment
Craig Warhurst's avatar

Dear friends, please realize that the AMA has ALWAYS been more interested in the perceived authority and income of its members than in the health of the people they treat. They have repeatedly been found guilty of twisting “science “ to fit their self- serving agenda and destroying any upstart “low information”opposition. Over the past decade they have ventured out on some VERY thin ice of their moral high ground. Thank you Dr Ladapo for expanding this portion of the Overton window!!

Expand full comment
striketheroot's avatar

My dad was a "old fashioned " doctor for whom money/income was never the focus of his medical decisions. He once told met that he never joined the AMA because they were a "group of greedy businessmen" whose focus on the practice of medicine was a distant second to their objective of market monopoly. The AMA's actions over the past century certainly upholds my dad's POV.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

The AMA should not exist either. They really serve no purpose other than taking in yearly dues from docs. Give that money to the jab injured who were mandated to take that poison.

Expand full comment
rolandttg's avatar

What else are they wrong about ?? They fully endorse the murderous allopathic Rockefeller cancer treatments, and ban all other real cures. That's just a start. As far as I know, they aren't right about anything medical.

Expand full comment
jmsmithmd's avatar

They are wokesters and do not represent all physicians as they claim they do.

Expand full comment
HoneyPot4Freedom's avatar

Big Pharma controls the AMA and Big Insurance, holding a monopoly over healthcare in America. These same people line their deep greasy pockets with trillions in profit from drugs and vaccines, maintaining an ever growing steady stream of cash flow by creating patients for the rest of their unwitting lives. Trans patients are simply a lucratively cash cow, hence the massive support and complete willingness to mutilate children from the conventional medicine community.

Expand full comment
Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

An end to "vaccine coercion" as Jeff puts it, and that it IS. I hope this gives other states the okay to do the same. All those "experts" are experts in their own vain-glorious minds.

Let's continue to keep them away from the children and away from public schools.

Expand full comment
Jack's avatar

While I agree with the author’s sentiment, is there ANYONE reading this article who would not immunize their children against polio ??

Expand full comment
Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Yes.

First, I don't have a child, but secondly, more than a few of us after Covid have now begun to dig into the history of vaccinology and virology to see what else has been lied about, including the history of the polio vaccine.

I approached a lot of this history thinking. "Well, surely the polio vaccine was needed..."

Expand full comment
Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Jimmy - You expressed my thoughts as well, thank you.

Expand full comment
Aryenis's avatar

As a very young kiddo, I considered the polio vaccine a boon. Because it meant that I could swim in the local pool all summer.

The year before we got the sugar cubes, polio had passed through our community, and many parents, like mine, would not take their kids to the pool, because it was believed that this is one way that the virus spread. I was miserable in the hot, humid, southern summer heat. A/c was only beginning to catch on, and our house like most had none. The next summer, polio sugar cubes were announced.

Maybe we were part of the beta test trials? Most of the community stood in line, under shade trees, on a Sunday afternoon, for the sugar cubes. I wondered why all my vaccinations (very few in those days) could not be delivered by sugar cube. :-p

Expand full comment
Kathy's avatar

I would consider that one. The point is, Informed consent. I also know that every time I used to go to donate blood, on their questionnaire, they asked if I had been in the presence of someone who had recently received the oral polio vaccine. In other words, that particular one sheds. So people need to know the risks and benefits of different types of vaccine for a specific disease. I was vaccinated for the big three, and I am healthy as a horse. I am entering retirement age, and I take zero pharmaceuticals, never catch, colds, etc. Had two extremely mild cases of covid-purposely put myself in crowded situations so that I could build natural immunity. I keep ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in the house in case they unleash anything that is actually dangerous! I am thrilled and proud to live in the free state of Florida, and so grateful to RFK, Children’s Health Defense , ICAN, warrior moms, and dad’s, and all the lawyers like Jeff that have been fighting for our rights. And of course, all of the groups such as React 19 that are fighting for the rights of the injured.

Expand full comment
Annette's avatar

Check out “Turtles All the Way Down.” There is a massive chapter about polio. The vaccine did not/does not stop polio (which is actually not a virus but the manifestation of neurotoxicity).

Expand full comment
Kathy's avatar

I do have that book, and have seen the great documentary on polio by Jeffrey Jaxen. That is why I am saying, I might consider it, but knowing what I know now I would probably go without even the shots for the big three. I am pretty healthy, but would probably be even healthier if I had never had any shots. I envy people who are totally vaccine free.

Expand full comment
cltwilson1's avatar

Read Dissolving Illusions to better understand why no one has to take the polio vaccine

https://a.co/d/7r0I8mH

Expand full comment
AMEL's avatar

Learning about the odds of a "bad case" of polio vs. a bad case of SIDS, or profound autism can help make a decision.

This is what informed consent is about. Nobody has deemed important to inform the parents about the downsides of shots. They only instill fear through the downsides of potential illness.

Expand full comment
Pennacali Girl's avatar

Please read Suzanne Humphrey’s book “Dissolving Illusions”, she has a chapter addressing polio and how we were gamed about the efficacy of polio vaccines like covid19.

Expand full comment
Jack's avatar

I just read several reviews. One stated that since many diseases have been irradiated, her examples were scurvy and scarlet fever, vaccines are not needed. NONSENSE ! Scurvy is a vitamin deficiency and scarlet fever is a bacterial infection. Neither one has anything to do with vaccines.

Another reviewer reports that this book claims that polio was never defeated; rather it was just renamed as infantile paralysis or some such thing. Well, I have been in pediatric medicine for over 40 years (surgeon) and having trained or worked in Ohio, Massachusetts, Michigan, Louisiana, and now Florida, I have never seen, heard about, or read about such a patient or such a diagnosis. If such patients do in fact exist, they are EXCEEDINGLY rare.

I do need to investigate the hypothetical claim that polio was disappearing before the advent of the vaccine.

BE VERY CAREFUL. patient and self autonomy are invaluable; willful ignorance is dangerous.

Expand full comment
CherylBray's avatar

Acute Flacid Myelitis, Guillan Barre Syndrome, & Transverse Myelitis are listed as side effects on vaccine inserts.

Vaccine inserts are quite easy to find online.See section 6.2 for post marketing adverse events required by law to be listed.

Those are the conditions that were formally referred to as polio.

Expand full comment
Jack's avatar

You realize that before the polio vax we had hospital wards full of patient on respirators. Not anymore. The conditions to which you refer are NOT polio and while their quite rare occurrence MIGHT be vax related, many or most occur independent of the polio vax.

Expand full comment
Marty Kiner's avatar

Regarding polio and what I’ve read. It was never a virus. Symptoms started showing up with the increased use of DDT which was in the air and on our food sources. As use of DDT increased the amount of polio cases rose. Around the same time the vaccine was rolling out the government had banned the use of DDT. As usage decreased so did the cases of polio, no thanks to the vaccine.

Expand full comment
Carolyn's avatar

Do your research about polio shots...I repent for ever giving the few vaxs my kids received and I ask forgiveness for my parents and school, for the few shots I received. If I knew then what I know now, there would have NEVER been any vaxs given.

Expand full comment
Full Name's avatar

I sure as hell wouldn't. Illogical to think that Covid "vaxx" was a scam, HPV a scam, pretty much entire allopathic medicine system is a scam, yet the polio vaccine is a jewel. Read the history of SV-40 in the polio vaccine. Either the system is bullschitt or it isn't-no middle ground.

Read a few books on the history of vaccination all the way back to Pasteur, look at the charts demonstrating that the diseases that vaccination has "eliminated" all began to decrease dramatically PRIOR to the implementation of those vaxxes but correlate beautifully with the adoption of improved sanitation practices related to both drinking water and waste disposal.

This coming from an RN who grew sick of the system after 35+ years and finally pulled his head out of his arse.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

Like Jimmy I used to think vaccines were of some use. Since 2020 I now know they are pointless at best for man or beast. They are a horrible toxic scam and always have been.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and

Expand full comment
CherylBray's avatar

Yes.

Polio was almost gone once the vaccine was introduced. The vaccine side effects then caused polio like symptoms which they renamed (and still exist today) to hide the truth.

Worth your time to either Dissolving Illusions or view Jeffrey Jaxxen polio expose on Highwire TV. Easy to find.

Expand full comment
Jimmie Manwiller's avatar

Another book to read is The Moth in the Iron Lung. A good explanation of other causes of the symptoms of polio.

Expand full comment
AKQuiltingGramma's avatar

If I knew then what I know now, not one of my children would have gotten a single vaccine!!

I received every iteration of the polio vaccine because my mother was terrified one of us would get polio. In reality, we were fortunate to not be much exposed to DDT and lived in places with good water and sanitation. So we would have been fine. We also were given shots for tetnus and whooping cough. ( just for the record, my mother had to literally drag me down the hall to get those shots) I recall hearing two neighborhood kids who lived in a less clean home, coughing from pertussis but recovered within a week and were back out to play and no one else in the neighborhood became infected because they stayed home or in their own yard until well. I have natural immunity from all other childhood diseases—I had them all, including mumps when I was a junior in high school. Everyone I knew had them. We were pretty sick and ran some fevers, but we all recovered just fine. I never heard of a single local case of death or lingering problems when I was growing up—with current sanitation, including frequent handwashing, the overall risks of the diseases do not come anywhere close to the known dangers and frequency of harm from the vaccines. That tetanus shot they want to give you after you’ve gotten a wound is known not to prevent tetanus—specifically not for that wound (too late even if it did work) and has never ever been tested and proven to protect anyone from tetanus. Regular showers, handwashing and thorough cleaning of a wound are the best prevention —and antibiotics are available to fight any dangerous infection that rears its ugly head (and there is an anti-tetanus topical med that may be employed if there is a known danger of exposure to tetanus (not sure if there is data to support using it). The most effective treatment is to simply keep the wound open and clean to allow it to heal from the inside out so it doesn’t trap growing bacterium that might become invasive internally.

Expand full comment
AKQuiltingGramma's avatar

Based on more recently read information, I’d even advise against that so-called vitamin K shot, that I now know contains some potentially dangerous stuff—it’s anything BUT a harmless vitamin. I’m on the fence with testing for PKU—not enough research yet on my part.

Expand full comment
MOMinator's avatar

Highly recommended: Dissolving Illusions by Humphries and Bystriank(sp?)

Expand full comment
Bitsy54's avatar

Yes! That shot has been so debunked. Read “The Disappearance of Polio”, chapter 12 in the book DISSOLVING ILLUSIONS by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk. Just one paragraph: “Morris Beale, who for years edited his informative publication, capsule news digest, from Capitol Hill, offered a standing reward during the years from 1954 to 1960 of $30,000, which he would pay to anyone who could prove that the polio vaccine was not a killer and a fraud.There were no takers. From Eustis Mullins, murdered by injection.”

There is substantial indications that polio was pretty much eradicated before the “vaccine” was introduced. Also, indications that the liberal spraying of DDT to eradicate Gypsy moths was the culprit for people AND animals going lame. It is a fascinating book that will open your eyes to the lies the Rockafeller empire has instilled in our history.

Expand full comment
Harlena's avatar

Not if I knew then what I know now!

Expand full comment
Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Read and study more. There is still what would have been called polio, but they just changed the names, so there is not polio, but acute flaccid myelitis, or Guillian Barre, etc. The history of vaccines is full of lies and obfuscations. Read Dissolving Illusions or Turtles all the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth.

Expand full comment
JG Smoot's avatar

100%

Jeff has absolutely nailed this with reference to the Civil War. It is an unsolvable binary choice -- you are a free person created by God with bodily autonomy or you are owned, a piece of property and a slave.

As I was reading this, I found myself substituting "schools" for vaccines. I fought (as an elected official) for 12 years in the state of California for charter school options for just this reason -- if you are mandated to attend school but there is only "one" school, then you are a slave.

The good news is, we won enough to crack open the monopoly and there are many more school options today, But the fight was brutal.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

Wait until this coalition on the West Coast is in full swing. They will crumble every thing you did. Get ready for brutal again or move out.

Expand full comment
Oregon Kathy's avatar

Why? Do you think it would really actually have any authority?

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

With the rabidity that the West Coast fanatics rule, I certainly do and may Heaven help those that will stand in their way. Stay safe and healthy and I hope the coalition does not get off the ground.

Expand full comment
CherylBray's avatar

States have the authority to make vaccine regulations. The Federal government makes recommendations but the states decide to follow or not. California will for sure continue to mandate. Oregon and Washington appear to be on board as well.

Expand full comment
MarshaLouise's avatar

Good work. Thank you, JG.

Expand full comment
RunningLogic's avatar

That is a great analogy too, government mandates school so if there is only one “choice” then you don’t really have any autonomy or freedom to decide how that education happens.

Expand full comment
william howard's avatar

Lapado could have just said - My Body My Choice

Expand full comment
J. Fast's avatar

Nicely done! This will be my retort to libtards who look down their nose at no-vax me and smugly declare the Covid vax and boosters are “for the greater good.” Of course those people are no longer my friends!

Expand full comment
william howard's avatar

and an aborted baby would have no benefit to the "greater good"?

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

unless you use their stem cells they would say.

Expand full comment
AKQuiltingGramma's avatar

They never were.

Expand full comment
Cheryl Stoker's avatar

No, because then left would say we’re hypocrites. We need to be blunt about the truth because trying to say our views nicely doesn’t get attention.

Expand full comment
william howard's avatar

hypocrites? sounds to me like they are the hypocrites

Expand full comment
Cheryl Stoker's avatar

Yes, but as we all know they always turn it around on us & claim we do what they actually are doing

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

BINGO!

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Love Jeff Childers!!!

Jeff Childers, an attorney in Gainesville, Florida, who spent years opposing mask and vaccination mandates in court during the COVID-19 pandemic and runs a blog called “Coffee and Covid,” celebrated the news as “vindicating.”

He told The Epoch Times that Ladapo’s use of the word slavery was more than just a “rhetorical trick” and touched on a related issue: bodily autonomy.

“This is about a kind of fundamental human liberty,” Childers said.

“The sanctity of your body, or whether you can be considered property when the community requires it, that’s that kind of polarizing issue like slavery, that there is no in between.

“Either you’re the kind of person that thinks that all of us should be prepared to take one for the team if the community needs it, or you’re the kind of person that thinks that, no, you can never make somebody do something like that against their will.”

Expand full comment
MarshaLouise's avatar

Wonderful. JC runs a great blog.

Expand full comment
Steenroid's avatar

Fox Business News “expert” doctors on today screaming about how everyone will get measles without herd immunity. Probably on Fox News too but I only watch Fox if Gutfeld is on the show.

Expand full comment
Joanie Higgs's avatar

All of us baby boomers had measles and chicken pox. I had mumps, too. And here we still are!

Expand full comment
Steenroid's avatar

I skipped chicken pox until I was an adult. Trust me you want to get it when you’re a kid.

Expand full comment
AKQuiltingGramma's avatar

Yup!

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

These infections convey cancer resistance.

Expand full comment
robren72's avatar

Of course they are screaming, Fox News and Fox Business get a large portion of their ad income from Big Pharma. As much as I enjoy Gutfeld, he's not allowed to criticize the ad overlords. Pretty sure that's one of the reasons Tucker got canned, he criticized Big Pharma.

Expand full comment
Steenroid's avatar

All the broadcast networks suck on the Big Pharma teat.

Expand full comment
Steenroid's avatar

And that’s why they are terrified that RFK, Jr might ban advertising on TV.

Expand full comment
PamelaZelie's avatar

I pray that is next on RFK, JR’s agenda!

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

I just heard the cows in Florida in unison tell those experts to F off.

Cows don't need vaccines either. It is only bc they are stuffed by the thousands in CAFOs. Regenerative farming with smaller herds will do away with that crap. Make US Farms great again! This is just more revenue for the veterinary harma companies.

Expand full comment
Steenroid's avatar

Having seen what happens when a closed herd that didn’t vaccinate the calves or mothers when they left the ranch. I disagree. Over 50% of the calves died because they had 0 immunity to IBR. I helped the vet post a bunch of them.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

And I disagree with you. I have experienced the opposite in many herds. All the best to you.

Expand full comment
Aryenis's avatar

Does this mean that vaccinated herds can pass the virus to unvaccinated youngsters? So a vaccination that does not stop transmission, only symptoms? Or what is the source from which the unvaccinated calves were infected?

Expand full comment
Sunnydaze's avatar

While this is great! And I am celebrating. I wonder how to respond to the bill in FL law from many many years ago that gives FL the right to quarantine and force vaxx someone if deemed (by whom?) a public health emergency? It’s on the books. It did not get removed by DeSantis a couple years ago when he introduced medical freedom. Will THIS be the off-ramp for that? It’s still an issue that can’t be ignored.

Expand full comment
MarshaLouise's avatar

An important point.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

I can't love the both of them enough! Morals over evil greed! Keeping poison out of our childrens arms! Standing up for people to make their own decisions. Let the West Coast form their coalition and we will sadly watch them all die from their jabs. I can only hope the lunatic dems in Florida move out and go West to their herd leaving the sane people in Florida. Hopefully this will also deter any lunatic dems from moving to Florida permanently or being snowbirds. They are not wanted so keep out of the great State of Florida!

Expand full comment
Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

One of. the best things about them is that they would say they are just doing what they swore to do, uphold the Constitution of the United States and not merely giving it lip service.

Expand full comment
Steve's avatar

How about the Federal Government institutes a new “ban on abortion” (utilitarian)due to the fact that birth rates are edging towards a rate that cannot sustain humanity? You know, “for the common good” just like the jabs. You think “heads are exploding” over Florida’s new announcement, imagine the total and utter “meltdown” and the cries for “my body, my choice” relentlessly pounded over every news outlet in existence.

Me, I’d pop some corn and enjoy the mayhem….! 😆

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

Forced adoptions.

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

Steve - that is really thinking outside the box! Seems like the same line of logic, and if they WERE logical (and truthful!), they would have to agree.

Expand full comment
MarkGW's avatar

"And the ‘rightness’ of a coercive act depends only on maximizing society’s outcomes. Minority autonomy (freedom) may legitimately be sacrificed for the greater good of society." "Mandates and slavery both rely on the unspoken premise that individuals are instruments of society rather than sovereign beings."

Thank you!

Expand full comment
Lisa Ca's avatar

And this is why I do not want them at the national level - WH. We need them leading the way for states. Otherwise what leaders do we have??!!

Expand full comment
Sunnydaze's avatar

On one hand -I see comments from people who are aghast at the thought of states sovereignty!! They are terrified states can make their own laws.

On the other hand -those same people are begging their state to separate from Trumps public health people because they are so foolish! (Although their language is much more colorful 😳)

You cannot win against the brainwashed. They are in REM sleep and refuse to wake up!

Expand full comment
Margot Wooster's avatar

Only God can awaken them

Expand full comment
RunningLogic's avatar

I heartily agree!!

I have to note though, having read comments by liberals losing their minds about this, how these people’s love of credentialism only applies when it’s experts they agree with 😑 They question Dr Ladapo and act like they know better than he does even though *they’re* not the “experts” here. Dr Ladapo may have a medical degree from Harvard and experience in his field but he somehow still doesn’t know what he’s talking about 🙄🙄🙄

Oh and if it had been a darker skinned doctor being criticized for agreeing with the CDC it would have been “racist” 🙄 but somehow it’s different if the person is conservative 🙄

Expand full comment
K2's avatar

^^This!^^

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I really don't have a horse in this particular race, but based on the preponderance of the evidence, I tend to align with Jon Rappoport's line of reasoning. He's been tracking contrived pandemics since the Cretaceous period. In short, he brings the goods. There was no pandemic. There was no worldwide emergency. There was no mutant novel virus. There were no more deaths than in previous years flu bugs. There was no science. There was only fear mongering, lies and propaganda. Fauci, that malignant mealworm, could have told everyone to Krazy Glue their butt cheeks together to “slow the spread” and he would have had several million willing participants. He could have said pigs fly for all that matter, in which case if Stacey Abrams had taken up skydiving he would of had a real solid argument, but I’m certain she was grounded at the time, no doubt involved in other pressing matters where she could showcase her considerable squeal and snort approach to politics.

The proposed cure was the disease. The only observable “science” was mass psychosis. 

Expand full comment
Based Florida Man's avatar

It was really strange how the Flu disappeared and was replaced by the exact same number of 'covid' cases.

Science is just baffling that way.

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Dude, my wife, who works in healthcare, checked those stats back in 2021-2022 for Florida. The flu was non-existent. Not one case. I’m sure that information has been sufficiently doctored now.

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

As was cancer, diabetes, heart disease and all the other real reasons for morbidity, all replaced by "covid, the plandemic".

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I used to say: “Just throw it under the Covid umbrella.” Didn't matter what it was....and they did.

Expand full comment
Margot Wooster's avatar

Motorcycle accidents come to mind.

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

…and suicides. Go figure.

Expand full comment
Patricia Woodard's avatar

Hospitals got a LOT of money for calling everything that evil word and the more they tested the more they made and the more they ventilated the more they made. I was listening to the Todd Starnes radio show earlier today. He was just separated from his job at Fox, had purchased KWAM radio in Memphis, but still living in NYC. His family was very concerned about him and kept calling. He finally walked from his apartment around the corner to the hospital in the Bronx and did a Facebook live to show everyone nothing was going on. All of the things they were telling us were going on were NOT going on. It was all a farce.

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

Also, motorcycle and automobile wrecks.

Expand full comment
Mitch's avatar

don't forget gunshot wounds and motor vehicle accidents. Not joking.

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Oh, I know you are not joking. And I agree.

Expand full comment
Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Truth

Expand full comment
Eli's avatar

And it was the protocols that killed people, and isolating the old people until they gave up and passed on.

Expand full comment
Jimmie Manwiller's avatar

Yep. I do bed placement in a hospital and wondered where the flu went. I have seen the notion put out there that is was actually the Spanish flu renamed and what people were dying of was bacterial pneumonia, which mask wearing only made worse. IDK

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Probably the cause of most serious ailments….bacterial, bad sanitization, 3rd world beastiality practices (ugh), pesticides, all manner of man made concoctions….

Expand full comment
Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Truth!

Expand full comment
Jenn's avatar

I like what you did there; sufficiently "doctored" now. Funny! I appreciate your posts!

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

I point this out to the Decidedly Dim. They still seem not to get the point so they continue to get the needle points instead. Doctors seem to be among the Decidedly Dim too.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/an-idiopathic-disease-aka-doctors?utm_source=publication-search

Expand full comment
CK's avatar

That’s because COVID oUtCoMpEtEd tHe fLu, dummies 🙄

Expand full comment
Pat Wetzel's avatar

🤔

Expand full comment
David Sibley's avatar

The danger of self amplifying/RNA vaccines is that shedding will be the means of vaccinating people who opt out. We need to ban RNA vaccine technology…period.

Expand full comment
Roger Beal's avatar

Shedding ... and aerosols, and crop "vaccinations", and any other devious satanic method developed by The Gates Foundation.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

Time for Gates and his satanic foundation of rot to enter its death phase.

Expand full comment
Chevrus's avatar

At some point these behaviors and actions ought rightly to be treated as a threat to life and livelihood and thus dealt with with extreme prejudice.

Expand full comment
Politico Phil's avatar

mRNA is a military bio-weapon. It must be banned!

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

And Merck Animal Health has just introduced these same jabs for our pets for Rabies, Feline Leukemia and Canine Flu. Just say NO. Jabs are called Novibac NXT.

Expand full comment
Paige Green's avatar

I’m good. We quit vaccinating our pets over a year ago.

Expand full comment
Debra Nolasco's avatar

I believe they are calling them saRNA (self-amplifying) instead of mRNA.

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

Even a fifth grader would surmise that something being jabbed into them with the moniker of "self-amplifying" is going to get into all their bodily nooks and crannies!! And amplify itself outside via some of the nooks and crannies!

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

From NIH Abstract:Self-Amplifying RNA: A Second Revolution of mRNA Vaccines against COVID-19

Are you employed by Merck?

Expand full comment
Debra Nolasco's avatar

No, I am not. I just read extensively & am very good at uncovering tidbits of information. I'm also very good at connecting dots. These skills have served me well.

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

Yes, so it does not matter what they rename it. mrna or sarna, same thing. same poison.

Expand full comment
Sherry 1's avatar

100%

Expand full comment
Uncle Juan's avatar

It was a plandemic…

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

To remove President Trump, and to kill and/or severely injure as many of us as they could, while keeping power over the survivors.

Expand full comment
Just Comment's avatar

At least 270,227,181 people or 81% of the population have received at least one dose.

Overall, 230,637,348 people or 70% of the population are considered fully vaccinated.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/

Expand full comment
NAB's avatar

Fully vaccinated defined as having received the initial "two shot" series?

Remarkable the drop off between one dose and then "fully vaccinated" (though obviously much higher than it should have been).

Eternally thankful that I withstood the shaming and pressure to "get vaccinated" or as one of my former friends said, "just take the damn shot!" Also thankful beyond words that my husband was in the position to avoid these injections for work. Praise the LORD.

Expand full comment
webstersmill's avatar

Have an entire family, actually a whole neighborhood, of people who think for themselves who did NOT get any of those shots. Disparagingly called resistors. As if that were an insult, haha. When people were counseled to ‘follow the science’ and take the advice of ‘experts’, the red flag of caution was heeded. Remembering when DDT was ok, and DES was freely dispensed over 30 years, and Thalidomide affected babies grew up in the community. Listen to the experts? No, we think for ourselves, and do our own research.

Expand full comment
Kathleen Janoski's avatar

DES daughter here.

Expand full comment
Uncle Juan's avatar

Grateful that my son resisted the vax under threat of firing from his EMT job…. And he was fired.

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

And we are witnessing an increase in all cause mortality rates, which are nearly off the charts, since they committed this crime against humanity. They surely accomplished their evil mission, now we who are still alive and well because we didn't take their poison, have to hold them to account. As I often say, there is a target rich environment.

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

See Nurse Dee this morning--and at the end, the statement of Dr. Irene Mavrakakis

https://dee746.substack.com/p/major-study-covid-vaccines-were-deliberately

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Thank you, Bill Gates. He can take a lo-o-o-n-g walk off a short pier. Just sayin!

Expand full comment
Eli's avatar

Maybe Bill is on the Epstein list??? Didn't his wife leave him because of his relationship with Epstein? Should be interesting now that the survivors are making their own list.

Expand full comment
Donna in MO's avatar

Wow, digging into that site it says 95% of my age cohort (50-64) received 'at least one dose'. I guess I am blessed that my 'tribe' that are mostly in my age group was mostly resisters. As far as I know. I did have a friend admit last month that she indeed had gotten the first 2 and blamed them for the fact she has been sick a lot more often than she used to be. She's trying Dr. McCullough's protocol.

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

So, the US natural-born citizenry may be down to about 30% of what it should be, with vax deaths and babies un-born, in, say, 10-20 years.....a dreary thought. Solve any housing problem; that's the bright side.

Expand full comment
Politico Phil's avatar

This is a huge problem. I'd call it a curse. The bio-weapon causes sterility and we have yet to figure out the extent to which the younger generation has been sterilized. No one seems to want to talk about it.

Couple that with the 30 to 50 million illegal invaders WHO WERE NOT VAXXED (again, no one knows for sure how many) that are reproducing like rabbits and we have a huge problem. These are not like the immigrants of the 1800s. These are people who hold values antithetical to American values and beliefs. They do not view America as a land of opportunity but as a culture to be conquered and replaced. What we see happening in the UK is coming here.

Expand full comment
SarahKI's avatar

And average 7 kids per family…

Expand full comment
Politico Phil's avatar

The Transgenerational mRNA Catastrophe: Excess Infant Deaths, Sterilization, and the Great Birth Rate Collapse

Catastrophic new data are emerging on COVID-19 mRNA injections — pointing to nothing less than a transgenerational crisis. The evidence now shows an unprecedented rise in infant mortality, mounting proof of sterilization, total collapse of birth rates, and the devastating “Cascade of Harms” being documented in the scientific literature...

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/the-transgenerational-mrna-catastrophe

Expand full comment
Lori's avatar

no more immigration for now. period.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

May I die killing them.

Expand full comment
Donna in MO's avatar

My son just admitted that his 2X vaxxed wife has had 2 miscarriages. Said they have not told anyone as she doesn't want to talk about it. She is a type 1 diabetic and a nurse and was one of the 'first in line' as she was 'high risk' but he said she didn't get any of the boosters as there was no mandate. She refuses to talk to me about any of this so all I can do is pray.

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

I hear you. My BFF who is a nurse was the first in line to get her vax. She is now battling breast cancer…but does not want to talk about it. Her PhD daughter was vaxxed 5x and can’t figure out why she keeps having miscarriages. So very sad.

Expand full comment
RunningLogic's avatar

I’m so sorry 😞 Prayers for your DIL and son 🙏

Expand full comment
Just Comment's avatar

There might be shortage of labor in professional segment ?

Expand full comment
Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Just Comment - to some of us those numbers are shocking and frightening, especially considering that most people think those numbers are a great success.

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And see how they frame it:

​"What's the nation's progress on vaccinations?" The word "progress" only goes one way--forward (progredior, progredi, progressus--to step forward)

Expand full comment
Tom's avatar

Their use of the word "progress" is another hidden premise.

Expand full comment
Just Comment's avatar

Wow, you are right !

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Signor Pareto gets it right again.

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

Is fully vaccinated meaning the original two shots? I seem to recall they tried calling "fully vaccinated" to mean people had gotten any and all jab boosters to be fully vaccinated.

Expand full comment
Sherry Davis's avatar

Oh this is terrible!

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

Funny how the ultimate survivors are those they will find difficult. Or even deadly to them.

Expand full comment
ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

Or, to quote Mark Oshinskie of Substack fame, a “Scamdemic”.

Expand full comment
Beca Del Oeste's avatar

And a pantodemic 🎭

Expand full comment
Dr Linda's avatar

I appreciate how you summed it up. I believe you are correct.

It was stated a number of times that the flu was very low during the scamdemic.

Expand full comment
WP William's avatar

the influenza (if i've ever actually been stricken with such a thing) has never made me lose senses of smell and taste and feel as if i had mono for a week. was it an enhanced flu, a regionally dispensed chemical weapon, or what exactly? To deny the pathogen or contagion outright as a manic media hoax is a foolish proposition akin to stating the moon is made of cheese. To see decades of effort and billions spent to develop bioweaponry of vast variety and then claim an outbreak was merely faked is also incongruent. YES the data and the death counts were BOTH Faked and intentionally raised via inflated count and mal-treatment. The seasonal flu "subsiding" into irrelevance was a part of that effort. It was a soft-pandemic of a highly spreadable (just how it was spread is debatable) less-lethal bioweapon that hit hundreds of millions and was perfectly implemented and "managed" and then addressed via global "vaxxinations". Masterful manipulation to achieve Globalist Deepstate-run desired results on many fronts. Mass-fatalities were never the aim as that would have been counter-productive at too many levels and made roll out, management, media coverage, and vaxx-responses impossible. The line and distinguishment between natural versus manmade, lab-produced illnesses is blurred beyond our view, it would require a forensic pathogeneticist (or something) to discern and define. A predetermined culling of humanity matched with predictive longer-term depopulation via Long CoVid and Vaxx-Harms, along with instituted ramped up demographic shifting (Mass, Less-Vaxx'd Migration Invasions) was the far more sinister yet less terror-producing attacks upon the West and pro-Western-inclined populations Globally.

Expand full comment
Double Mc's avatar

You're right. We cannot deny there was some illness that made some people very sick. The debate is from where and why.

Expand full comment
nik's avatar

I don’t know when I will not feel the need to chime in on this …but I had altered taste for 8 months! + more weirdness than I care to recount.

My Mom got sick and 2 months later had surgery for double blood clots in both lungs.

My aunt’s lungs were destroyed and a year later she passed away—this lady had 8 children (no vaccines for her or kids) and lived MAHA my entire life +

I don’t know why it’s hard to allow for the possibility of a bio-weapon. 🦠

When you know, you know .

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

nik,, I personally know of ten people who died from the vaccine. May Fauci burn in hades with all his money.

Expand full comment
nik's avatar

Lincoln, I believe you, agree, and am so sorry for your losses! 😞

And just to be clear my comment was not about the dangers of the vaccine.

I was referring to the origins of the virus and my opinion that it was engineered…man-made wickedness. Not some ordinary flu.

There are others who experienced it differently, but for whatever reason I still feel the need to explain my experience. Maybe someday I will grow out of that lol ;))

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

Furrin cleavage site on spike protein is smoking gun: lab origin

Expand full comment
Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I appreciate your sharing this, thank you.

Expand full comment
Renea Buchholz's avatar

Then one must ask themselves…… how often is the flu or flu season from a manmade bio experiment. Is it really just a seasonal thing that spreads or a plan. Was this one different because they made it different?

Expand full comment
Dr Linda's avatar

It is definitely a different construct.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

It is a good question. There are lots of things that make us ill, it is understand the vast array that affect us. It includes vaccines in general including those for 'flu, but also increased winter pollution when heating appliances are on for example. Then there is processed food issues.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/sodium-nitrite-e250-the-poison-in?utm_source=publication-search

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Years before Covid I got decimated by a flu bug. Absolutely altered my sense of taste and smell for months.

Expand full comment
Dr Linda's avatar

Also, that was a huge selling point of the covid poison shot. I know when I get a cold (coronavirus) I can’t smell anything and food has no appeal.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

My bride and I are doing exactly that right now. Ive started cutting up the cardboard boxes I have in the garage, as it all tastes the same. “ what would you like for dinner tonight, love? “ she picks based on texture. Nasty cold.

Expand full comment
Dr Linda's avatar

😂

Expand full comment
nancylee's avatar

I know I'm sick when coffee is unappetizing in the morning

Expand full comment
Dr Linda's avatar

Same! I forgot about that. It’s a clear signal for me.

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

Same consequences here. It eventually goes away.

Expand full comment
NAB's avatar

I got a case of the flu in Feb 2015 which took me down for almost two weeks and then another 6 months to finally feel back to my normal self. I had post-viral cardiac dysrhythmias and ended up on beta-blockers for a while. I have never been so sick.

Expand full comment
JBell's avatar
Sep 4Edited

Me, too in 2015 ... also developed Bell's Palsy for about 8 months.

Still on beta blockers, after 2 ablations.

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

Ouch. Not a mild flu. Hope you're fine now.

Expand full comment
NAB's avatar

Totally good now, but it really shook me at the time. I mean, I was only 48. I had trouble getting from my couch to the bathroom without having to lie down and rest. My youngest son was 8 at the time and it was February break so he was home and bored. I agreed to play a game with him while lying on the couch and wouldn't you know, he chose Mousetrap of all games! We still laugh about how he picked the most involved, complicated game in the cupboard.

Expand full comment
Aryenis's avatar

Our bodies seem very clever at sending us signals that it is time to slow down or quit eating. When we are infected with something, its priorities seem to shift.

Tea and ginger ale never seem to lose their appeal for me.

Expand full comment
STH's avatar
Sep 4Edited

I agree WP W- what I had in 2021 was no flu. Loss of taste/smell, fever came and went multiple times over 2-3 weeks, microclots down my left shin, EXTREME fatigue, POTS for months, hair loss, totally bizarre symptoms. And no I was never jabbed. And no, 5G was not in my tiny mountain town yet. In fact, I knew no one who had had covid. But we had two houseguests who were recently jabbed. I believe I caught it from them.

Expand full comment
Margot Wooster's avatar

STH, how bizarre! Hope you are better now. It is important to remember that God is sovereign over all these things, sickness and health, life and death. In Christ is the only safe place to be!

Expand full comment
wily_coyote-genius's avatar

The flu season if 2017-2018 killed more people and there was never any lockdowns, masking, dumb arrows in the businesses and grocery stores.

Expand full comment
Susan Seas's avatar

I have allergies. A stuffy nose makes me loose smell and taste. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Also a very small percentage of people have ever actually had the flu, (check into it) therefore this is “worse” because for the first time they actually had “the flu” I had it in 5th grade and it almost killed me. Just food for thought.

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

I might have suffered from the flu for three days once. Mostly stomach ache. Annoying, except it saved me from having to go snow skiing.

Expand full comment
nancylee's avatar

flu is not stomach ache. If you ever have flu you will not mistake it for anything else, ever. It is wracking body aches, fever, every breath an effort and feels like your last, complete loss of energy. I didn't believe in it, til I had it.

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

Sounds horrible. Well, whatever I had, it got me out of skiing that weekend.

Expand full comment
Susan Seas's avatar

😆 Were you faking it to get out of skiing?

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

No. But my girlfriend never let me forget that she had to ski by herself while I sat sipping hot tea and reading short stories in front of a hot fire in a chalet. That was a great weekend at Heavenly Tahoe!

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

It was the flu, but the flu by itself would not create the hysteria necessary to enable the success of the pLandemic. So, whatever the "annual flu" is, and then identified with the fake test and the incorrect reporting of people who died from covid instead of what really killed them: heart disease, diabetes, cancer, accidents, etc and finally the use of government and media to sell it.... that's what the covid flu is and was.

Expand full comment
Karen's avatar

I'm sure they had "jacked" it up and made it a bad one...I say that those that take a yearly flu shot are the ones that infect everyone else...

Expand full comment
Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Dan - In 2020 I refused to mask or distance, and never got any respiratory illness. That was when it was supposed to have been prevalent. In May of 2021 I came into close contact with people who had all been vaxxed. Shortly I came down with a severe respiratory illness which nearly killed me, and has left me permanently semi-disabled. I never took a jab. I was still a victim somehow.

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I did not mask either but in some instances was forced to "distance"...

Shedding? I don't know enough about it but it seems that this is plausible for many who did not get the poisonous jab.

My personal opinion, and it is nothing more than that and only because of what I have learned from this sordid, evil event is they took a SARS-COV virus (from the early 2000s, an earlier flu bug) and manipulated it to create SARS-COV2 and the covid pLandemic. They knew exactly what they had and the type of respiratory disease they would cause with flu like symptoms (maybe that is in fact the annual flu?). It was not zoonotic but they had to sell that it was. They had to have the "escape from the lab, the lab leak". They knew it was not going to be lethal or they never would have loosed it on the world, using the chinese people as the vector to spread it. They followed a scripted sequence of events. They had practiced it and ran exercises, (Event 2021?)

Expand full comment
daverkb's avatar

The Plandemic, a vast worldwide conspiracy of evil.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

Agree 100%

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

Indeed. And the annual 'flu if one gets it is a toxic poisoning.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and

Expand full comment
mspring's avatar

Agree with WPWilliam, saying that Covid wasn't real is just as foolish as the other view. It is another flu virus, just like the myriads of viruses we are exposed to each year. The fact that it started out worse (deadly??) and got milder over time validates the presumption that it was created (made) artificially, since it has behaved like all viruses do: the bad variants kill their hosts and can't replicate, while the milder ones only sicken hosts who spread them.

Expand full comment
Margot Wooster's avatar

Mspring, good point. I roll my eyes when hearing “everything is fake”. Just because some things are, does not mean all things are! I always want to ask them to define what they mean by “real” and “fake”.

Expand full comment
NAB's avatar

I have a friend who got really sick in 2016 and she swears she lost her sense of taste and smell then. Flu or has coronavirus been circulating for a much longer time than we've been led to believe? I have no idea. I think Ethical Skeptic has looked at some of this.

Expand full comment
Karen's avatar

There are like 26 different "Corona viruses", the flu and common cold being j2 of them!

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

Wow. Most are probably harmless? Depends on the host?

Expand full comment
btloms3's avatar

Radiation poisoning seems as plausible as anything put forth, so far. The symptoms line up with what’s been reported and not just blood clots:

https://open.substack.com/pub/sagehana/p/radiation-and-blood-clots?r=59q5mj&utm_medium=ios

Expand full comment
Richard Whitney's avatar

Yes, it was a bioweapon and it was based on a corona virus, not an influenza virus.

I know people who had it before SARS 2 was identified, and they went to the doctor and were tested for influenza. Their influenza tests came back negative and they were diagnosed with "Virus of unknown origin".

Once the PCR tests came out influenza testing pretty much stopped, because the government paid $35 for every PCR test and no dollars for influenza tests.

It is not difficult to figure out why flu "disappeared".

Mrs. RW

Expand full comment
Kathy's avatar

Yes, I believe the virus named COVID-19 did pick off some of the elderly and extremely metabolically unhealthy. I believe that the average age of death was 83, which is higher than our present life expectancy of 78, which I believe has recently become 76 ! But the numbers would not have been “ impressive” without rolling in all of the seasonal flu and pneumonia deaths. And the ridiculous PCR tests, which proved nothing, were used as an excuse to use deadly and dangerous interventions such as remdesivir and respirators. Early on there was a fight against even using appropriate steroids to deal with the lung inflammation. The FLCCC had to fight to get those put into use. And even when the hospitals agreed to use them, they use the wrong steroid which is less efficacious. The best one is methyl prednisone. And of course, they have known since about 2006 that antiparasitic drugs, fight viruses. They did not want us to know that either. And now the very same drugs are also a powerful weapon in the fight against cancer, even when paired with traditional treatments. They don’t want us to know that either.

Expand full comment
btloms3's avatar

Here is another one with many links to further explore the topic of radiation poisoning:

https://open.substack.com/pub/sagehana/p/i-can-also-utilize-various-forms?r=59q5mj&utm_medium=ios

Expand full comment
My Favorite Things's avatar

WP,

You’re right & long Covid is also real. I know from experience.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

They rebranded the 'flu but as the 'flu is a toxic poisoning it can be induced by all sorts of means, air, water, food, vaccines etc.

But the main thrust was a mass media fear storm using the illusion of spread to link up unrelated accounts, e.g. somebody flew from Wuhan to Northern Italy and lo and behold there was sickness in Northern Italy.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2021/09/26/fear-is-the-key/

Expand full comment
jmsmithmd's avatar

Yeah, 2020-21 blank!

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Eric, I truly appreciate your humorous TRUTHs. The proposed cure was, in fact, the disease. If Abrams could fly, she would end up being a Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) upon impact with the earth. They should save her for the next attack on the devils in Iran.

Further, when the AMA begs Florida to reconsider, you know you have hit them hard in their wallets and the ability to create life long sick Americans for them to stiff, literally and figuratively for the rest of their lives.

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

And just to be clear, I’ve always called her a pig because of her political rantings. This isn't about her weight, however…..

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

For me it is both, her unhinged ranting and her unhinged, unlimited girth. If she would worry more about her girth and less about her racist believes, she could probably "get some" and be happier. But that's just me.

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

Hahaha.

Expand full comment
Delightful Designs's avatar

I thought the Abrams was a tank, not a missile

:D

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

:-) This is the more massive air-to-ground variant.

Expand full comment
Baldmichael's avatar

The M1 Abrams is a very large tank. Hmm....

P.S. I have seen someone else has already mentioned this.

Expand full comment
Delightful Designs's avatar

Krazy Glueing their butt cheeks together to “slow the spread" is how you stop Monkeypox.

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Good catch. Sorry, it was a whirlwind of diseases at the time.

Expand full comment
william howard's avatar

or HIV

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

That one got me laughing!

Expand full comment
Fabius Minarchus's avatar

No. COVID-19 was real and in its early incarnation could be quite brutal for people 50 and above. It arrived in the US earlier than advertised. I had a relative get it in early November the year before official arrival.

The suppression of research on remedies is the most criminal thing about the fiasco. Early on there was a Spanish nursing home which preserved the lives of all its residents by giving high doses of antihistamines in order to prevent the viral sepsis. There was no follow on.

Expand full comment
Jacquijacq's avatar

I saw a doctor - I believe his name was Peter Bartlett - on Good day Dallas. He was an ICU Dr. on an overnight shift. he had two patients on vents and he knew they would not make it through the night. He said he prayed on it and decided to try something. He took them no off the vents and started to administer heavy asthma I think it’s steroids through inhalers. Within hours they were both sitting up and talking.

The next day he very excitedly reported this. He got called onto the carpet by Chief of staff and told in no uncertain terms that he was never to do that again. It’s against protocol !!

I saw this interview. I don’t think it was fake

Expand full comment
Tom's avatar

Might have been budesonide inhalers. I have heard glowing reports. Of course, it hasn't been studied for this use . . .

Expand full comment
Debra Nolasco's avatar

I saw that interview. I believe he gave them Budesonide & possibly an additional medication.

Expand full comment
Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Fabius - true, my sister in the Houston area had it in November 2019. It was so bad she was hospitalized. Thankfully the deadly "protocols" were not being applied yet.

Expand full comment
WP William's avatar

the viral sequencing was crafted intentionally..or was Wuhan simply a fake TV set with no real virological DE/GOF going on??? The LIEs and unknowns of the Pandemic do not erase the truth of what was intentionally created and then unleashed upon humanity.

Accidental Lab Leak terminology (Sean Hannity) is a bullshit ruse and deceptive half-truth too

Expand full comment
Politico Phil's avatar

Same as the "flu" and same mortality results affecting the same age groups. In spite of the psyops fear the MSM was peddling, mortality only rose AFTER the roll out of the bio-weapon vaccine. Do the math. Everything was a lie.

Expand full comment
Navyo Ericsen's avatar

The plandemic was for depopulation. The inflection point of global excess mortality was the 'vaccine' rollout, not the supposedly fatal Covid-19. Currently, between 2-4,000 Americans are dying every week from mRNA poisoning. Cancer rates are skyrocketing. Fertility rates have already fallen below replacement level in many countries. See The Ethical Skeptic for data.

Expand full comment
Kathleen Janoski's avatar

A good friend of mine died 2 weeks after taking the booster.

Expand full comment
Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I'm sorry to hear that... Their despicable trick was to label those who took the shots as 'vaccinated' until 14 days after - the two-week period where most vaccine injuries and death occurred - to avoid liability and bad press.

Expand full comment
Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I am still reeling from his death.

Expand full comment
Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly. And Ethical Skeptic brings the goods.

Expand full comment
WP William's avatar

we know this innately too, data sets, science, and media-reported "facts" may be used to either support or deny our broader cognizance but we still "know" the reality of harms being broadly perpetrated upon our common civilization and human family--even discarding Fear-hype, we sense mass waves of social erosion, addiction, corruption, child and elder abuse, mal-technologies and industrial poisonings of food water air and soil, radicalization and incited violence, all manner of assault and injection of moral decay and insecurity. That said, we sense a desperation as masses are prodded toward seeking the lifeboats of personal spiritual renewal and institutional religious awakening

Expand full comment
Navyo Ericsen's avatar

You seem to have a deep well of knowledge and insight. Have you written anything?

Expand full comment
Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Well said.

Expand full comment
jmsmithmd's avatar

Counsellor, Bravo! again.

You have shown us the kernel of the argument, the high moral ground of individual rights and freedoms vs the woke public health interests of “the herd.”

I was taught in med school ethics that physicians worked for the patient in front of them, that we were to keep their individual interests at the forefront, and the original Hippocratic Oath is about the individual doctor patient relationship and not causing abortion, before it was remodeled by current wokesters at the helm of medical education.

It is wrong to hurt someone to benefit the herd. Right and wrong are not difficult to distinguish.

Thank you for yet another beautiful post, filled with truth and logic and morality. I thank God for you and your work.

Expand full comment
Tom Bernard's avatar

My wife worked as a nurse in a large hospital throughout the 'pandemic,' and there was never even one flu case during that time... The dreaded flu was no more; replaced by covid and all it's horrid, sadistic lies... I fully agree with Jon Rappoport as well... and yes, now that covid has lost its communistic purpose,, the dreaded flu has returned.

Expand full comment
Tim R's avatar

100%! The original sequencing of the SARs-CoV-2 "virus" in China was fraudulent. The Cormen-Drosten PCR based on that computer sequencing was fraudulent. The mass testing with that non-specific PCR test run at high cycles was fraudulent. NYC and Bergamo Italy deaths counts were fraudulent. the list goes on. And not only that, so called "global pandemics" do not exist. Spanish Flu in 1918 was likely mostly iatrogenic due to overdosing of aspirin!

Expand full comment
Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Yes, and your average plebian hasn't the slightest idea - or even cares - what “cycle threshold” means.

Expand full comment
Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly right yet people don't want to hear it. Everything was/is a lie. The truth is really quite simple. And yet, people still insist they can point to a "virus" but for some reason they can't produce the virus for examination. Simply put, the whole plandemic was a sophisticated program of poisoning an entire population starting with a psyops to poison the mind.

Expand full comment
Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I read that "Spanish" flu (which had nothing to do with Spain) in Europe, where people were dying in a matter of hours, was consistent with sulfur-mustard gas poisoning from WWI trenches remaining in the atmosphere and blowing into vast areas. Symptoms were labeled influenza to avoid culpability, but they bear no relation to any genuine influenza strain.

Expand full comment
WP William's avatar

the funded scientific-bio-chemical industrial-military complexes of the era (1860s-1919) were hard at it tinkering with and producing all manner of insidious poisons and weaponry, as the Globalist Occultic Elites had declared war upon humanity at every level from Fratricidal Great Wars to realign Empires into Nation-States, to International Communism, centralizing Monetary-Banking systems, and so on.

Expand full comment
Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Indeed. And it seems that Occult Elite have been waging war on humanity for millennia.

Expand full comment
JacquelineP's avatar

I agree there was no C-19 emergency. The mandates are a stand-alone issue. I am glad to see them addressed as such - removing them for ALL vaccines. I hope this sanity filters up to Canada one day….

Expand full comment
daverkb's avatar

I am with you and this was my viewpoint from close to the very beginning of The Great Covid Caper. And so I am glad to hear this openly voiced here.

What you say is the harsh truth which people do not want to face because the truth is totally damning of their stupidity, gullibility, naivete ... and so on. To have been so wrong is to arrive at a difficult place of self-judgement.

Expand full comment
Janet's avatar

While I agree with you in some points, this issue is a non-starter and way too late to have any effect. We know all this. For 5 years. It’s not the way to get our freedoms back to constantly litigate it. Someday people will be ready for this but maybe the “war” has to happen first.

Expand full comment
Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I am still stunned at how quickly tyranny came.

Never realized we had such a tenuous hold on our freedoms.

Expand full comment
PamelaZelie's avatar

That is what shocked me, too. I never expected the mass of people falling in line for tyranny, many being my own family members. Those I considered of high intelligence.

Expand full comment
Justin's avatar

The States just need to say NO. And they have the power to do that.

https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2021/03/24/states-just-need-to-say-no/

Expand full comment
Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Lol loved the krazy glue & butt cheeks 🤣🤣🤣

Expand full comment
Xen's avatar

😂💯

Expand full comment
Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Preserve me, O God, for I take refuge in You.

I said to the LORD, “You are my Lord;

I have no good besides You.”

As for the saints who are in the earth,

They are the majestic ones in whom is all my delight.

The sorrows of those who have bartered for another god will be multiplied;

I shall not pour out their drink offerings of blood,

Nor will I take their names upon my lips.

— Psalm 16:1-4 NAS95

“Those that multiply gods multiply grief to themselves: for whoever thinks one god too little, will find two too many, and yet hundreds not enough.” — Matthew Henry

On Psalm 16:4

✝️✝️✝️

Expand full comment
Barbara Johnston's avatar

Thanks be to God I have lived to see this happen! DeSantis and Lapado heard us-Save the children!

Expand full comment
Teresa Thibodeaux's avatar

Thank you Janice, words that really spoke to me this morning. God bless you.

Expand full comment
FedUpInOR's avatar

Ladapo needs to be the new head of the CDC. Ron Desantis needs some

Sort of role as well once his term as governor runs out. Florida is leading in so many ways, let’s harness that energy nationally.

Expand full comment
Delightful Designs's avatar

I really liked Jeff Childer's idea of DeSantis on the Supreme Court.

Expand full comment
Dean's avatar

Probably the POTUS 48 position.

Expand full comment
Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

He may have just got that depending on how he runs this out to the betterment of all Americans health. And he can bring Ladapo along to HHS as RFK, Jr. will have accomplished everything he set out to do by 2028 and be ready to retire in glory.

Expand full comment
Fran Angel's avatar

How about a position on the Supreme court? He's been a wonderful governor but his connections and backing by the Bush cabal make him a no-go for POTUS ....jmho

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Disagree. The Bush cabal is old news in 2025. Go Ronnie D!

Expand full comment
Justin's avatar

It would be better for Florida if DeSantis and Ladapo continue their great work here, instead of contaminating and putrefying themselves in the DC swamp.

They can set great examples for other States without getting contaminated and putrefied in DC. I was glad that Ron decided not to run for POTUS in 2024.

Speaking of swamps, and in response to Jeff's invitation for suggestions for naming things after DeSantis, here is a suggested renaming.

Since Ron took the charge on 'Alligator Alcatraz', let's rename that to the 'DeSantis Transfer jetport'?

Don't let Trump take credit for that.

Meanwhile, it seems to be getting unruly there.

https://realrawnews.com/2025/09/riot-at-alligator-alcatraz/

Expand full comment
CherylBray's avatar

No one is perfect. We live, learn and change.

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Not eligible. Nigerian born. Probably more effective (like Gov. Ron) right there in Florida, where the two can work as a team, and be a micro-version of the city upon a hill.

Expand full comment
Aryenis's avatar

The Director of CDC must be a U.S. citizen, as for most government positions. There is no requirement that he be a citizen by birth.

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I was referring to the suggestion that he run for president.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’m pretty sure they were referring to desantis.

Expand full comment
Lisa's avatar

Is it true, that prior to 2025, CDC director didn't need Senate confirmation?

Expand full comment
wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Didn’t Biden change that? Oh, the Democrats were thinking hard back then.

Expand full comment
Debra Nolasco's avatar

Yes, I believe that is true. It is one more thing that Biden did before leaving the White House.

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Ron SeSantis for POTUS 2028!

Expand full comment
Aryenis's avatar

I had been hoping Ladapo might move to that position. With this action in Florida, I fear he will be unable to get Senate confirmation - a new requirement established by Congress & Biden in 2023. Pharma was planning ahead, it appears.

Expand full comment
FedUpInOR's avatar

Well perhaps it’s best to move state by state. Or at least many will be observing the outcomes of Florida

Expand full comment
Debra Nolasco's avatar

One thought that was offered recently was for Trump to nominate DeSantis for the Supreme Court, once there is a vacancy. Great idea. I may have even read it on C&C by Jeff Childers.

Expand full comment
JLo2112's avatar

I think a higher office that CDC would be better for all. Heck, with his solid moral foundation, natural and learned intelligence, and courage, he could hold just about any position, elected or otherwise.

Expand full comment
Kathy's avatar

DeSantis for SCOTUS!!!

Expand full comment
Neil Kellen's avatar

And this is not just about vaccines.

The CORE of the Democrat philosophy is "people belong to the state". Every policy they pursue is to that end.

And Democrats are digging in on that position. We are in the early stages of a civil war. On one side - the Democrats - we have servitude TO the state. On the other side - MAGA - we have servitude OF the state.

It is, perhaps, an irreconcilable difference.

Expand full comment
webstersmill's avatar

Thank you for this post. Well put. Often the words with the least number of letters determines intent. As a contract reviewer, have sat in many meetings and discussed intent of drafts. One memorable occasion was when it was called to the attention of the attorney for the client that the passage did not say what he was telling the client it said. After much dissection of the paragraph, the light finally went on in the client’s mind that he would effectively be hung out to dry if the section remained as written. For some reason, haha, it was a ‘kill the messenger’ moment; his attorney was peeved and not at all thankful to have the correction which would save his client. Some people, no matter the profession, do not appreciate being corrected, regarding it as loss of face rather than a learning experience.

Expand full comment
Jamison's avatar

Yes! Have you seen the video of Ted Cruz taking Tim Kaine to the woodshed for claiming that the government gives people their rights?

Expand full comment
Martin's avatar

I wonder if this will affect the concept of military draft. Isn’t there a great difference between being forced to take a vaccine that likely won’t harm you (I am personally against all vax) and being forced to drop your life and serve in the military and face potential death?

Expand full comment
Pat Wetzel's avatar

I think you may be right. A split at some point seems inevitable. Could this be the instigating factor?

Expand full comment
Aryenis's avatar

"... That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed,

that whenever the Government becomes destructive of these End, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it..."

A foundational premise, which seems to be vanishing from our civil dialogue. It is up to citizens to transfer some of their power, provisionally, to governments, and not for governments to decide what rights citizens do and do not have. Those rights are inherent in each man from "Nature's God", not the government.

It did not escape the founders that people would have to struggle regularly with governments to preserve these rights. Therefore, the right of people to withdraw their consent (and power) from government. A balancing act on a seesaw.

Expand full comment
Alan Davis's avatar

Exactly and West Coast Socialist states are not just mandating jabs but gender identity training for all public school students. Do not let kids or grandchildren go into their school systems.

Expand full comment
sean anderson's avatar

Ladapo said “ What you put into your body is because of your relationship with your body and God. .” How dare he replace the Globalist god “the State” with God Himself?

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I understand that my body is actually a temple of God...

Expand full comment
Tom's avatar

Note what happened to Aaron's sons when they used their own formula for the incense instead of the one directed by God for use in the tabernacle.

mRNA is an altering of God's design for the tabernacle.

Expand full comment
Dean's avatar

😂 The nerve of the guy.

Expand full comment
Dr Linda's avatar

I have absolved the people I know for the responsibility of taking care of me. I am in charge of my life and health.

Expand full comment
RJ Rambler's avatar

It's a scary thing to have to be independent and care for yourself. You might get sick and die, starve to death, get maimed, be debilitated and if there's anyone who can promise to stop it then it's so tempting. Then you can't blame someone else and that's also very tempting. All an act of God.

Expand full comment
🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Regarding medical freedom and the potential for no property taxes in Florida: it’s time to buy property in Florida!

Expand full comment
Double Mc's avatar

Just be prepared for astronomical homeowner's insurance.

Expand full comment
🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Ugh…I know. Sold my home in 2015 and made a tidy sum before moving to CO. Bought a condo as an investment in 2020…sold it in 2022 and made a fortune. Hopefully things will work out well this time, too! But yea, homeowners and windstorm keep going up-up-up…might need to look inland this time. All of my former properties were coastal.

Expand full comment
Lincoln's avatar

Yes, if you live on either coast. No so inland.

Expand full comment
Double Mc's avatar

Inland isn't much safer. I've seen lots of serious damage inland, especially in rural areas with a lot of older homes.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

Why?

Expand full comment
Double Mc's avatar

Hurricanes, my friend, hurricanes.

Expand full comment
🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Right?? So….we may need to make move ;). Or claim that as our primary residence…! Honestly, though…not like some OTHERS we know…

Expand full comment
User's avatar
Comment deleted
Sep 4
Comment deleted
Expand full comment
My Favorite Things's avatar

Economist,

Maybe they could just stop wasting money and only provide the basic services. Taxpayers shouldn’t be responsible for fulfilling wishlists.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

The problem here, as I see it,is that so much of the money spent in Florida is from non residents. That homestead thing is in place to give back to those of us calling this home, not Canadians visiting 5.9 months a year. So no land tax on your only residence is not going to have the same effect it would have in say, NYS. It just isn’t. And because Florida has never had a state income tax, we’re used to seeing things like 400 bucks for your first license plate. Not only that,but there are so damn many condos going up everywhere that will be empty six months a year, I can see those users being taxed more. Because they don’t pay any the taxes we residents do,but enjoy the Bennies. And as far as insurance goes, we’re at 5 k a year, waterfront on the Halifax. 150 ft of it. Five mile boat ride to the Atlantic. That same property in nys, on Lake Ontario, was 20 k a year. So yeah I’m thinking my last few years having no property tax is gonna be sweet.

Expand full comment
SM's avatar

Our property tax more than doubled because of “property value” going up.

That is total BS. Eliminating homestead property taxes is genius!

There is a lot of waste and inefficiency that needs to be exposed and corrected.

The state needs to cap any tax increases that cities and counties can implement and hold a vote to approve additional spending for any program.

The people should decide where we want funding to be allocated.

If hospitals receive money from county taxpayers and the state AND the federal government, why are we being charged thousands of dollars for a hospital visit?

They make billions….as a “nonprofit “ ??

The hospitals in central Florida are banking.

End the hospital tax as well! Public healthcare is not my financial responsibility.

Their CEOs and upper management make millions.

Enough of the ridiculous taxes.

Expand full comment
🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I hope there is a better plan…

Expand full comment
shayne's avatar

No kidding. I like Key West. 🤣

Expand full comment
Beca Del Oeste's avatar

Let’s see what the end result looks like…

Expand full comment
Barbara Moore's avatar

It will look like freedom.

People will have to learn to make their own good medical decisions.

Doctors will have to give their own good advice.

Vaccines won’t go away, but there will be fewer and will be administered differently.

Expand full comment
wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Like self amplifying ones. Either way, we are cows to them

Expand full comment
Susan Seas's avatar

Your last sentence scares me. A friend shared an article where they are trying to use DENTAL FLOSS to administer!!

Expand full comment
shayne's avatar

Have to go back to making my own toothpicks from my peach tree prunings.

Expand full comment
Barbara Moore's avatar

I actually meant the schedule will be administered differently, fewer at one time.

But the potential is there for forced administration. Definitely frightening.

Expand full comment
Delightful Designs's avatar

If you CHOOSE it, not have it hidden, that might be a lot less trauma for kids than the shots are.

Expand full comment
Kathy's avatar

I think Jeff mentioned removing the Homestead exemption laws which prevent you from renting out all or part of your property, and also prevent you from using all or part of your property to conduct business.

Expand full comment
🌱Nard🙏's avatar

When I rented my property, the rent covered all taxes and insurance as well as HOA fees. I did not claim it as my primary residence, because it wasn’t…still came out ahead ;). The plan was to hold it until retirement…but the market surged and it was a great time to sell, so we sold. It hasn’t increased much since then, so we made a good decision. Hopefully we can find another property and do the same soon. We hope to return to and retire in FL :).

Expand full comment
Jeff S's avatar

And maybe move there?

Expand full comment
🌱Nard🙏's avatar

That’s the plan…eventually.

Expand full comment
Jacquijacq's avatar

Except we are snow birds therefore not full time Fla residents. I fear they will make up the short fall by whacking us even harder in our property taxes!

Expand full comment
ST's avatar

A vaccine civil war fought on moral grounds! I never thought I would see this day in my lifetime!

Expand full comment
RSgva's avatar

I’m very glad that Ladapo is sticking his flag on moral grounds. This gets us away from simply “religious“ exemptions which then involves people falling over themselves to define piety or invite inappropriately intrusive questions about the extent of one’s faith. In fact one look at the Nuremberg code and you realize the entire Covid vax op was coercion—against basic human rights— whether in the US or in Europe, where people didn’t lose their jobs but couldn’t fly out of their own country unless they showed the VAX passport. I felt it was immoral from the get-go but couldn’t articulate and anchor it. So glad you and he are developing this.

Expand full comment
Pat Wetzel's avatar

What I find interesting is the potential split between states over this matter. Could this be the event that starts the breakup- or regionalization- of the US? Stay tuned...

Expand full comment
CaliforniaLost's avatar

California keeps making noise about leaving the union, but as soon as Newsom tries to secede, the inland portion of the state north of Sacramento will try and leave California to form greater Idaho and the north coast wants to go their own way, LA wants to rejoin Mexico, the Bay Area wants to be their won Singapore, Cali will fracture into a thousand pieces, all to be reconquered by the USA.

Expand full comment
Pat Wetzel's avatar

Parts may be reconquered, parts maybe hung out to dry. Interesting times

Expand full comment
CaliforniaLost's avatar

My dad and brother were going on about secession at last Thanksgiving and I just laughed and laid out the three big issues.

One, who is laying down there life for lowlife Gavin Newsom? No one

Two, what currency is going to be used? The Cali dollar? Backed by what military?

Three, all the old timers would no longer have access to Medicare and Social Security. Those guys ready to pay their own way to for Newsom to cosplay at a king

They changed the subject. I wonder why…

Expand full comment
Pat Wetzel's avatar

If only reality didn't have to intrude on the idea of ditching CA. By the time we get to that point, Social Security and Medicare will be the least of anyone's problems!

Expand full comment
Cody Holmes's avatar

This IS so much like the issue of slavery between the states. And it’s always been the same party that desires to enslave, even today. This legal question was decided at the death of thousands of American lives years ago. The same party that wanted to continue enslaving people in the 1850s still desires to enslave today. Each human is a FREE MAN or a slave to other’s desires. There is no middle ground.

Expand full comment
Valerie's avatar

Right! That thread of authoritarianism has existed all through Democrat history... and they’re trying to represent Republicans as the authoritarians. It’s a joke. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. I am thankful so many see it now, thanks to the liberals overplaying their hand during covid, and I hope that many, many more continue to wake up. Team reality!

Expand full comment
Cody Holmes's avatar

The right to human freedom has no limitations if it is truly freedom. Regardless of what someone or some authority has taken the high road to defend. There must be zero tolerance for outside legalize. This goes not only for health issues of medicines or care but all things including seat belts, child seats, helmets, life jackets and the list is Infiniti. We either have bodily choose and freedom over our OWN selves or we are someone’s slave to their ever changing whims.

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

That's a very good point. Once seat belts came onto the market, and (I believe) insurance rates climbed for those involved in accidents while not wearing a belt....

Expand full comment
Valerie's avatar

Amen.

Expand full comment
Principled Pragmatist's avatar

I loved Jeff’s clarification of the deontological versus the utilitarian argument. Brought to mind a scene a few years ago, inside the pantry of a large corporation where I worked. There were signs plastered on the microwave “no peanut oil or shellfish… someone on this floor has an allergy”.

I was struck by the arrogance of that demand. The idea that no one could microwave certain kinds of foods, because one person on a floor that had probably 150 people, had an allergy, struck me as preposterous. Of course, little doubt that these allergies were caused by the preservatives that are in the vaccines.

I can be sympathetic without being compliant.

Expand full comment
Clarity Seeker's avatar

Buckle up buttercups.This is merely the first salvo. This will be a major PR and social media extravaganza. Who will bring the facts and who will be looking to scare the bejesus out of the masses?

Expand full comment
George's avatar

I think your who should read WHO.

Expand full comment
Clarity Seeker's avatar

Love it. I would trust Peter Townsend before Tedros( as in Tedros can you hear me?)

Expand full comment
Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I guess time will tell on if there are “HUGE outbreaks of disease and death” in Florida. When that DOESN’T happen, will these “experts” be baffled? Shocked? My guess is they will slink back into their hidey-holes and clam up.

Expand full comment
Delightful Designs's avatar

They ignore the lack of serious problems in the Amish. Ignoring good data is a skill they have perfected.

Expand full comment
wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Outbreaks have been proven to be variants of measles induced vaccination. I had measles, mumps and chicken pox. Recall Brady Bunch episode. You wanted to get measles to have lifetime immunity

Expand full comment
shayne's avatar

Ditto

Expand full comment
FedUpInOR's avatar

I wouldn’t be surprised to see false flags in FL

Expand full comment
Seeking Grace's avatar

@FedUpInOR that’s my worry, also. When livelihoods are threatened, it seems those people would do whatever it takes to introduce disease and death into Florida so they can then say, “see, we told you vaccines work.” I’m thinking of a rabid dog backed into a corner. This feels like the biggest “corner” of all time 🙏🏻

Expand full comment
Sunnydaze's avatar

That’s what I’m bracing myself for. Odds are they will start releasing diseases they conjured up in the lab. Beware. They will do SOMETHING.

Fear caused people to inject, hide, tattle, belittle, and become nazis….

The reverse will happen too. They are backed into a corner and afraid of losing their power over the people so that fear will cause them to retaliate.

Expand full comment
Kathy's avatar

So, besides being aware of this, you can stock up on things like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, in case they do release something that is truly nasty.

Expand full comment
Richard Whitney's avatar

Yep, remember when RFK, Jr. arrived we immediately had two girls die from measles?

And it was all his fault!

Except that Dr. Kory reviewed the charts and found out it was malpractice. Twice, same "mistake".

Or was it?

Mrs. RW

Expand full comment
Dean's avatar

We can only hope they would wander so quietly into that good night.

Expand full comment
ViaVeritasVita's avatar

You mean, the way there are huge disease outbreaks among the Mennonite and Amish?

Expand full comment
Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

EXACTLY!

Expand full comment
SD Scott's avatar

Infant mortality will reveal all.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

Maybe we’ll lose millions of visitors a year! Wouldn’t that be glorious!

Expand full comment
SM's avatar

Outbreaks will be in the vaccinated, as has ever been the case 😵‍💫

Expand full comment
FedUpInOR's avatar

But they rarely comment on vaccine status unless it’s in their favor

Expand full comment
Based Florida Man's avatar

I was coming back from a long trip and caught some Public Radio. They were talking about getting ready for the fall vaccines and how to get everyone up to date on their shots. Their focus on kids was most disturbing. They really want as many shots in little arms as possible.

Zero discussion of need, efficacy, or risks.

Expand full comment
SM's avatar

I like to remind jab peddlers that vaccines neither prevent or cure any disease.

They DO NOT stop you from “spreading” disease or prevent death.

They shouldn’t be mandated from a medical perspective because they cause harm. Period.

I will not inject human fetal cell lines, porcine or bovine serum, or toxic metals in the guise of a “safe” treatment.

There’s an awesome doctor named Jeffrey Barke who posts videos on Fridays called “informed consent Friday.”

He reads package inserts for vaccines and explains the jargon and what each warning means. It is brilliant!

Expand full comment
Foxton's avatar

I assume the main reason for the freakout on the Florida vax stance is that in ten years, when the autism rate in children drops to 1 / 1000th of what it is in California the medical community is gonna have some splainin' to do.

Expand full comment
Alan Devincentis's avatar

That’s the info they don’t want to know. And we’re gonna be told any day now.

Expand full comment
Peace's avatar

Yup. Kennedy's promise to release data re: autism in September is looming large. All hands on deck to de-legitimize him and his message ahead of whatever he will be divulging.

Expand full comment
CaliforniaLost's avatar

Our politicians out here in Cali don't care about kids, they are evil.

Expand full comment
Lorraine H Sherman's avatar

Absolutely brilliant analysis.

If there was a Hill I would die on, coerced/mandated vaccines would be the Hill. I'm a former vaxxer; stopped vaccinating 3.5 years into motherhood and have some real guilt about vaccinating my older two infants/toddlers. They were so sick after vaccinations and this was a while ago '79-midway '83.

The best decision I ever made for my children was to stop vaccinating.

I am so thankful for our Governor and our State Surgeon General.

Expand full comment
Based Florida Man's avatar

Anti-vaxxers for the win.

We WILL be proved right!

Expand full comment
Scott Kiley's avatar

90% of the comments have not heard the message from Jeff Childers. Focus people.

Do NOT to argue the science but to cite the God given right to chose what goes in you body or not. Basically, Informed consent.

Ladapo is taking the same route on vax mandates. It correctly skips over the quicksand pit and goes right to the winning argument of God given rights.

Expand full comment
Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I heard it, I just don’t completely agree. We need to be talking about the harms and lack of benefit too.

Expand full comment
jmsmithmd's avatar

Right!

Expand full comment