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It seems I've unintentionally offended some of my valued Catholic readers. To be clear: Iām not a theologian, nor do I pretend to be or even play one on YouTube-TV. Iām just a lawyer fumbling my way through history to make sense of present-day battles. My comparison between AI and the printing press was meant to be a cultural analogy rather than a doctrinal claim ā and certainly not as a commentary on the fullness of Catholic tradition or the complex role the Church played in preserving, transmitting, and interpreting Scripture.
I am grateful to my sincere Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ who were willing to engage today's post with substance and grace. Iron sharpens iron.
I'll request that, for today, those with strong feelings going the other way please refrain from commenting here, so as not to dilute the sincerity of my outreach.
I was raised Catholic. Around the age of 18 converted to Christianity. You have never offended me. I respect you and love this Substack. God Bless all of us. šš»
I too raised Catholic in a very small town congregation long ago when the Mass was done in Latin and I was the Altar Boy. I saw no perversions nor misgivings.
Just a variation of a hundreds of years dedication to remind us of teachings.
The accuracy of which is no doubt forever argued or protested.
It remains a well lived life on my chosen theater of family and friends.
God Bless America now more than ever. The Chaos and Hate has taken a bad turn.
My mom told me about this, the mass being said in Latin and the priest never turning around towards the congregants. I just remember as a young child having to wear a covering on my head and always dresses for the females when going to mass... Left all that behind long, long ago...
The priest didnāt have his back to the congregation, but was facing WITH them towards God to offer the sacrifice of the mass on behalf of the congregation. With a full and better explanation then I can offer itās actually a very beautiful gesture once explained better. Just wanted to clarify. š So many things were misunderstood during the Vatican 2 time and the meaning of things in the mass has been lostā¦
Regardless, I would find this SO impersonal, NOT understanding a word of the Latin mass, NOT seeing the priest's face at all.... NOT at all reflective of our very personal relationship with Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior
I can understand that completely. The first Latin mass I went to was so odd feeling. It felt like I was so out of place and removed from things. But I found as it went on and BECAUSE it was in Latin and there was no distraction of a priest staring at the congregation, the words became a song almost. I felt I could enter so much more into prayer, conversation, and communion with Jesus as there was prayer all around, but there was also my prayer within and my conversation with Jesus that I could have as the dance played around me. When you speak in another language it can be like that. I donāt know if that is everyoneās experience and I donāt go to a Latin mass regularly, but I can understand itās beauty. Itās meant to be between us and God and the priest is there to offer himself between us and God, but heās meant to disappear in a way?
As far as Latin, our Catholic tradition teaches that Satan hates Latin and shrinks at the sound of it because it is the language of the church. Granted it was also the language of the Romans, but thatās how we understand itā¦
Please respect the Catholic religion as I respect yours. Condemnation is the common thing that seems to come from Protestants/Christians here on this substack and it makes me wonder why they are not at peace with their own beliefs and feel the need to put down other belief systems. Are you not secure in them? I love my faith as Iām sure you love yours. Find peace in that and allow others to find their path to God as God leads them. You are not our savior, I only have one Savior in Jesus. Many blessings and peace to you brothers and sisters in Christ, I hope you find your peace and contentment.
And how exactly am I being disrespectful? Because I'm pointing out truth and you're offended?
You are correct in that I am NOT your savior, and for that matter anyone's savior. God forbid! When did I make that claim and WHY do you lay it at my feet??? I find your babbling about this offensive...
Amen - I'm hearing Mark 16:15 in my head. Oh, and a little grace to Jeff, please for everyone else here looking to declare their "supreme" mission and doctrine. The Lord God is sovereign!
Disagree! I grew up Catholic and graduated from a Catholic school. But I left Catholicism when I was 18, as well. Then I wandered through corridors of church offerings until at the age of 31, 35k feet in the air, with my kids sleeping heads on my lap, HOLY SPIRIT settled my heart and soul in a relationship with the Living GOD, through JESUS CHRIST... (never introduced nor offered in all my Catholic years)
The Charismatic Movement brought Catholics to true Christianity!
Because with Popes, Cardinals, Bishops & Priests... it was hit or miss... a doctrinal crapshoot!
I am Catholic and definitely have relationship with the living God and Jesus. I receive His body and blood at every mass as He instructed in the Bible. āThis IS my body, this IS my bloodā Not a symbol of it, He did not intended it to be a symbol. And He never corrected those who questioned if He really meant it was really His body and blood.
There is nothing more intimate than receiving the Eucharist, His body and blood. Him. And there is nothing more I want then to grow closer to Him every day and scripture and my faith get me there. I read scripture every day and every mass is chock full of scripture as well. You donāt have to be Protestant to achieve a personal relationship with Christ. Many Catholics are very close with Christ personally.
You are certainly within your right to believe whatever you wish.
But, no, JESUS did not say in His Word, that His followers should "drink His blood" and "eat His body" at every Mass... because he never mentions anything called "Mass" and He never said that the elements were blood and flesh. They are simply symbols.
"This is my body, broken for you..." and "This is my blood... as often as you do this, do it in remembrance of me"
I was taught all the above about Transubstantiation and so much more Catholic teaching... and it took a decade+... and being Born Again to know Truth.
You are certainly within your right to believe whatever you wish.
But, no, JESUS did not say in His Word, that His followers should "drink His blood" and "eat His body" at every Mass... because he never mentions anything called "Mass" and He never said that the elements were blood and flesh. They are simply symbols.
"This is my body, broken for you..." and "This is my blood... as often as you do this, do it in remembrance of me"
I was taught all the above about Transubstantiation and so much more Catholic teaching... and it took a decade+... and being Born Again to know Truth.
And what gives you the authority to interpret the Word of God and tell me what it means? How can I trust that itās not just your personal bias or that of your pastor coloring your interpretation? Are you saying God divinely inspired you as to what His word means?
If any Catholics out there take offense to your comparison but didn't take offense to a Marxist Pope, by definition an Atheist, "preserving, transmitting and interpreting Scripture" then I got nuthin'.
Me thinks truly spiritual and devout Catholics have had to toughen up plenty about what offends them regarding their faith after seeing an Atheist make a mockery of Scripture with innovative, creative interpretations of it to make it fit under Marxist dogma. 'Under' being the operative word. Under man's law, global governance. Not superior or even co-equal. But *under* man's law.
Nobody needs to apologize for offenses as slight as yours might be perceived as among the faithful. They have bigger problems to deal with, true offenses to the faith that Jorge Mario Bergoglio's legacy has left in the Church. Some serious house-cleaning is necessary before they should be caring about minor perceived slights.
And ditto the Church of England, Protestants. Who now have their first official Atheist atop it with the ascension of Charles. Between them that's well more than half of all Christianity being under attack by Atheists inside the two largest denominations.
You're not Chriatain, are you? You definitely don't know my faith. I would worry about your own salvation before telling others what they should do about their own.
I could be completely off, and had to go back and re-read FFox's response, but he never once mentioned anything about anyone's salvation or lack of it....????
Well, in fact, I've never considered myself a Chriatain. But I appreciate you introducing me to the term, "Chria (/Chreia)." Though it doesn't seem to have followers, as in "Chria-tains." But I can see how someone could consider themselves "Chriatains" since it has to do with characters and narratives, rhetoric, sagas of self and others. I suppose a genre can have followers:
And, Lo, behold - Chria are also common in the New Testament, mainly in the Gospels!
So, thank you for introducing me to a term and apparently the very unique religious sect you belong to!!
Good thing, too - with Catholicism and Protestantism completely co-opted and now controlled by Satanic Atheists those who remain followers of those denominations of Christianity and obedient to the whims and caprices of demons atop them will end up following those Pied Pipers of Satan on the path to Hell those evil interlopers have set for the blindly obedient.
The pope is human just like we are. We do NOT consider popes to be saints. We have had many bad popes and many good popes, just like our presidents. Iām not sure why itās always insisted they have to be saintly? You have to be dead first to be declared a saint anyways. They are all humans just like usā¦
...and your "insist they be saintly" line is you setting up and then arguing with your own straw man. Not my verbiage. Yours. Maybe you enjoy arguing with yourself?
We donāt blindly follow popes. Just as we donāt blindly follow presidents. We are discerning adults that look to God for direction first. If you have not practiced the Catholic faith correctly you will continue to misunderstand this.
Catholic, Inc. and anything affiliated and associated with Catholic, Inc. is NOT practicing the Catholic faith correctly. Every single Catholic Church and related charitable enterprise has a nonprofit article of incorporation. That makes it an official subsidiary of the United States of America in the US, and the corresponding structures in other nations. Catholic, Inc. obeys Man's laws, first. God's laws, second. No more glaring example than how they obeyed Man's pandemic laws. The Satanic Pope told his Churches to close, followers told to don Satanic BDSM masks on their faces, hiding them from God, social distance, pushed dangerous man-made poisons into the arms of the "faithful."
Obeying fallen man's laws before God's is NOT practicing the Catholic faith correctly. By my estimation about 95% of Catholics blindly followed their popes and did NOT look to God for direction first. No worse or better than the other faiths, not an indictment of Catholics. An indictment of Big Religion, Inc.
Iām not offended, but know the emphasis you place on accuracy and truth, and here you are mistaken. The original Gutenberg Bible was the Latin Vulgate, not an English version. Gutenbergās press was even admired by the future Pope Pius II for its legibility and accuracy. Gutenberg was a German Catholic. His Catholic Bible was printed more than 60 years before the Protestant Revolt. The Catholic Church wanted people to know and understand the Bibleāreadings from the Old and New Testaments and Gospel are part of every Mass! Problems arose later when inaccurate versions of the Bible were printed and heresies spread. Then, unfortunately, some members of the Catholic Church (not the Church herself) got overly zealous cracking down on heresy-spreaders, not unlike the modern day attacks on āCovid misinformation spreadersā.
And like the printing press, AI has great potential for good and harm. One must always use oneās brain to weigh the information presented and ask if it is true.
Thank you for your comment. I get very tired of Catholic bashing, everyone, especially lapsed Catholics, think they are an expert on the Church. If they were truly experts, they would never have left. Without the Church and the Monks who hand copied the Bible, where would we be? When my protestant friends all claim their own authority to interpret, why are there so many churches with doctrinal differences?
Does it really matter if the first Bible was printed in Latin or English? Jeff's comparison still stands . . Eventually the Bible was mass-printed in English and in every other written language, and that changed everything
You are right it did change things. Those who study the actual mass production of the Bible understand the floodgates of bad translations that were inflicted upon unsuspecting people. Some of the protestant publishing houses are named after those men. It gets glossed over because people take juvenile "Jesus, me and the bible" approach to their faith, instead of understanding the real covenantal relationship and visible Church Jesus set up with Peter and the apostles, and exhibited in St. Paul's writings. Instead of following Christ's Church with one visible head, rebellion inflicted hundreds of millions of "little churches" with everyone being their own final determined of what is true. We saw what that resulted in back in Genesis. Pride comes in many forms. 2 Timothy 4:3.
It matters insofar as the premise of the comparison is wrong. My interpretation of what Jeff meant to impart can be summarized as, like the printing press gave people the ability to read and interpret the Bible themselves, without the domineering Catholic Church as gatekeeper of Scripture, AI gives people the ability to read and interpret their symptoms themselves, without elite doctors as gatekeepers (and so doctors must adapt and tend to the person instead of the symptoms if they are to remain relevant and employed). But when itās known that the first Bible printed was a Catholic Bible, and the Catholic Church was happy to use the printing press as a tool, belying the supposition that the Church was opposed to free thinking, that comparison falls apart. One might draw another, better comparison that, like the printing press made information widely available, putting literacy within reach of the poor as well as the rich, and bringing the worldās ideas onto pages, AI has the potential to put diagnoses within the grasp of the patient as well as the doctor, synthesizing the ideas of the worldās scientists into solutions to fight disease.
āGatekeepersā also serve their purpose. It is not hard to imagine AI coming to the conclusion that a personās case is hopeless and suicide is the best, most logical option. We need moral, compassionate gatekeepers to guard against this lieā¦just like we need Holy Spirit-inspired gatekeepers to safeguard Godās Truth.
It doesnāt stand if you under any what Sylvia wrote. The church WANTED the everyday people to have access to the Bible and encouraged it and encourages it to this day. It changes everything about what Jeff said, which is wholly inaccurate.
"Problems arose later when inaccurate versions of the Bible were printed and heresies spread. "
Which versions do you consider to be "accurate"??
Have you read the translations of the original writings that became the "Bible" by Biglino? Many disparage him as his translations do not fit their dogma/mythology. But he was once a translator for the vatican... so is not a dunce...
This redneck from Bama did too. I would go back and re-read that section to understand Jeff's great offense but I simple don't care, it's Friday and I'm the Judge and Jury today. Innocent! PS have we heard back from Kansas on whether they burst into flames on their golf outing? Hope they played like DJT and not FJB. Everyone have a great weekend. SCOTUS on fire this afternoon. Jeff will have a great stack Saturday!!!
But I did recognize the dig at Catholics with one stating she "converted" from Catholicism to Christianity, in other words, Catholics aren't Christians. Not offended at that, just feel bad for her and her self-righteous attitude.
Let God deal with her. I always look at people who don't know that Catholics are Christians as someone who doesn't know the faith... and if they were Catholic who fell away, they are just like cafeteria Catholics. They are picking and choosing what to believe instead of what Jesus taught us.
Thank you for the post. I donāt often comment but felt compelled. I am a physician and a Catholic. I am glad for the clarification.
I think you would agree that there are good physicians. I think you would agree that there are good Catholics, including priests and bishops.
Sadly, most of my physician colleagues took the vaccine and pushed the vaccine. They shunned ivermectin and chloroquine. In short, they drank the Kool-Aid. We all hope (at C and C) that they wake up.
I just started using AI to help write notes. We have the impossible task of seeing many patients quickly and having comprehensive plans, and communicating that to the patient in a way that they can understand. At the same time giving them true options. AI can listen to our conversation and generate a note. That is better than relying on my memory for the minutia of every bit of our conversation. It saves me an enormous amount of time.
Imagine practicing law in a way that you would have 15 minute appointments with between 15 and 40 clients in a day and then generate a legal contract or document for every one of those patients by the end of the day or the next day.
And on top of that, we write prescriptions. And we have to call insurance companies to fight for a CT scan. And write doctors notes for employers. And take extra calls from people who have questions.
Donāt get me wrong, I love what I do. Iām a general surgeon. Itās gonna be a long time before thereās a robot. That can do what I do.
I absolutely love reading your post every single day and have benefited immensely. I think you would agree that we donāt want to throw out the babies with the bathwater when it comes to healthcare. It is fraught with problems. And it isnāt only the physicians. Itās a whole system.
{{Hugs}} Those readers are not your friends. A friend/good acquaintance overlooks minor offenses and mistakes.
After reading the autobiography of Benvenuto Cellini written in the 1500ās itās apparent the Catholic Church has been arrogant and corrupt for many years. The Catholic Church has the highest rate of pedophilia/child molestation and cover up. I canāt ignore their flaws and hypocrisy.
The Heart of Friendship
Hereās to the heart of friendship, tried and true,
That laughs with us when joys our pathway strew;
And kneels with us when sorrow, like a pall,
Enshrouds our stricken souls; then smiles through all
The midnight gloom with more than human faith
Hereās to the love that seeks not self, and hath
Jeff, your āhistory lessonsā are alway informative, well researched & always entertaining. And appreciated as history is being rewritten. Well done you!!
I loved the comparison, myself, and thought how ironic it was that the printed Bible sparked such a revolution, and was considered heretical, when the Bible was so important to my grandmother that she gave me my first when I was four years old. The printed Bible is a staple in Christian households.
Dear Mr Childers, you might have unwittingly opened Pandora's Box with this piece. I consider myself a spiritual person raised in Christian theology but not a "Christian" per se.
I recently watched an AI piece on the origins of religions and found it thought provoking. My eldest son a student of Christianity, watching with me found it offensive , said he doesn't watch AI stuff and stopped watching halfway through. Perhaps AI will do to "modern" religion what Gutenberg did to "THE CHURCH" in his era. It might even shake up the stodgy religious bureaucracies that seem too attached to power and money.
Lee Strobel's Book "The Case for the Real Jesus" is filled with everything the agnostic and atheist would not want you to read. Sceptics have been trying to permanently bury Jesus for over 2000 years and they just cannot do it.
Golf game was fine, I won't be winning any tournaments. Weather was better than the previous week. It was 91 degrees, but there was a strong breeze and NO humidity, unlike the previous week. Thanks for asking.
I was offended on behalf of all Catholics, who have to repeatedly āsplain the Bible hoarding /burning claim, and are lambasted because people repeat what they have heard somewhere.
I invite you to read this to help shed some light on the matter, although it does not touch on all the points.
They also answer the phone (!) if you have questions,
And you can call into their online show M-F 3PM Pacific.
I am a cradle catholic who is still active in the Catholic faith and I take zero offense to your historical analysis. Most mature Catholics don't hold the shortcomings of some individuals in the churches past as an indictment of our religion but rather a testament of human fallibility that permeates all organizations. The important thing is that the Catholic church can look back its history and learn from the mistakes of the past and move forward as a better religion in the future. Striving for continual improvement and humility are important aspects within Catholic teachings so we should be able to look at historical shortcomings with this in mind.
It is a fact that the Catholic Church murdered many people who were trying to get the Bible back to England where it could be translated and published for the masses. I read a book on their struggles to do that about 10 years ago. England was the only place that could do it because the Catholic king had been defeated in a war and it had a Protestant king.
I wish to respect Jeff Childersā call for Catholics to refrain from commenting. But you might want to look into why and how England became Protestant.
Henry VIII was far from righteous; he was totally self-serving and life didnāt go well for him.
And as for, āI read a bookā¦ā. You can find one to support anything and all things.
I am grateful to my sincere Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ who were willing to engage today's post with substance and grace. Iron sharpens iron.
I'll request that, for today, those with strong feelings going the other way please refrain from commenting here, so as not to dilute the sincerity of my outreach.
I don't belive Jeff is asking Catholics not to comment.
I belive he is asking readers to refrain from Catholic bashing as to not dilute his apology.
The book was a history of how the English Bible came to be. It took many years and many lives because the Catholic Church fought it. You don't have to accept it or like it. It won't change that, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, Joan of Ark or any of the rest of Catholic history.
Well, today Iāll settle for top five in comments! Have a blessed day everyone. Tonight I head in to work a long weekend of nights in a busy ICU. Pray for healing for all sick in hospitals now.
Ok, here goes. I am a Physician Associate, (formerly called Physician Assistant), with 50 years experience in the health field, first as a military medic then as a paramedic fireman before going to Duke School of Medicine in ā93. The imposition of the electronic health record in about 2000 and lack of tort reform to stop ambulance chasing lawyers has done as much or more than the scamdemic did to ruin the practice of medicine for patient and provider alike. Solution? Well, Direct Primary Clinics is a good start and RFK jr also thinks so.
By the way, an entertaining yet infuriating medical show on Netflix called the resident really exposes a lot of the corruption in medicine that comes from pure greed and unrestrained, arrogant egotism. Itās an exciting show, but as a physician, it makes me nauseous to realize whatās happened to the Hippocratic oath due to the first world medical profiteering.
You mean Hypocritic Oath. I hope you are one of the brave docs speaking out about all this and promoting meds like Ivermectin. It is time for good docs to stand up like Dr. Kory and McCullough and tell the AMA they are full of sh**.
The Hippocratic Oath is pretty much meaningless and is most definitely unenforceable. Itās like the oath that a President takes, or anyone else entering federal office, it is a statement of intentions, and nothing more. It harkins back to an era, long since passed, when people actually had honor and would do everything that they could to abide by an oath that they had taken. I would challenge anybody here to show me a case in which a doctor was fined, suspended, or had his or her license revoked because they violated the Oath - you wonāt find it, you will only find cases where specific laws or portions of the code of medical ethics, were some other hard and fast rule was broken.
"Smith warns that future troubles could be tied to the fact that only 14% of doctors today report having taken the Hippocratic oath to ādo no harm.ā Smith even recounts episodes of doctors recommending that the old or sick be denied basic treatments which might potentially save life. This enlightening book unmasks unexpected occurrences in the present practice of medicine, and shines light into a future that many of us might not like."
What is being said it that broadly speaking, the American people are no longer en mass a more people. And this is the reason why the early founder/framer fathers stated that a republic is a form of government fit for a moral people. Such in my opinion were right and Covid Terrorism is the proof. During Covid Terrorism, the great mass of doctors did not honor anything, not their oath nor themselves, nor the God we are meant to glorify through are actions.
In a way, the above paragraph is buttressed by Solzhenitsyn's 1979 Harvard commencement speech in which he determined that the crises in the West was not a political crises. Instead he stated the World Split Apart is a Spiritual Crises. To the Reformed Faith Christian, a spiritual crises is also a moral crises as defined by the opus of Christian La.
True, the Oath is not enforceable, though it should be.
Especially as long as doctors can lose their licenses for prescribing drugs they believe are best for their patients... like Ivermectin during Covid... and many DID lose their licenses...
I disagree about the oath comment... I took an oath when I jioned the Navy and Intook it seriously and did not break it. I am very proud of my service. I have worked with many honorable men and women... all of them will tell you that their oath never expires. My guy did 40 years and is now doing a dangerous job because of that oath. Not all people who take an oath are greedy, selfish human beings.
Yes, their unimpeachably sacred oaths. Like the tired lines our govt superiors dump on us as proof of their authority. Obamaās favorite was, āLet me be perfectly clear,ā usually followed by a perfectly incomprehensible lie. Jeff cited Governor Wes Moore trotting out a āMake no mistake.ā That one reminds me of John Wayneās response (Big Jake, maybe?) to cattle rustlers he held at gunpoint (or a similar situation). Rustlers: āLetās not be hasty, sir. There must be some kind of mistake.ā John Wayne: āYou made it.ā
Emerson nailed the issue in his remark about a virtue signaler seated at a silver-serviced dinner table: "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."
Speaking of residents, I had the son of a patient on my assignment explain to me that the current model of physician training is so grueling because it was established by a cocaine addict and, while there are laws restricting the number of hours resident physicians are allowed to work, they are circumvented by false documentation. Physicians in training are therefore reduced to cheap labor and those who refuse to play the game quickly find themselves trying to find a residency program that doesnāt exist.
My mind is always going to parallel economics to find the solution. Much as the Trump Administration is gutting the deep state swamp, I think state regulatory agencies can do something to accredit independent hospitals (you know, the way they used to be before they had Ascension or HCA or Kaiser Permanente branding) with training programs that are more realistic. With enough state government innovation, we can sidestep the entire complex (academic, pharmaceutical, hospital, government, and tech) and suddenly find ourselves with happy, healthy, and plentiful healthcare workers and providers. Weāll also be on our way towards a healthier population.
From your lips to godās ears. Hyperlocal is the answer to a lot of our self-created problems in medicine, health care, education, and media. The distrust in our institutions is at the tipping point, if not already past it. As they implode, the pieces will expunge all but the necessary, and the remaining parts will reorganize themselves into a more effective system.
I am on the hyperlocal bandwagon too. Would love to see more miniature schools where a few families close to each other hire a teacher for their kids. I think thereās so many benefits to a small group and also to assorted ages helping each other. My kids are going to be so blessed with the educational options they have with their kids (oldest grandchild is 1 with another on the way). Our only options were public, private or homeschooling.
We raised 5 kids starting in 1975 and ending in 1989. The last one, born in '89 was home schooled the rest were PS. We home schooled her ourselves with the help of HSLDA. This was the in the dinosaur days. This child went on to have a successful career as a nurse an in addition has a very successful business doing medical coding.. And she never wore overalls and plaid shirts. Also, she didn't miss the all the crap that comes along with the vaunted "socialization" of public school. ps my other 4 kids are doing well also. Just wanted to brag about my home schooled kid.
Happy to hear all your posse turned out well Mike. I don't know how parents today unwind all the social garbage forced on kids today from government schools. My heart goes out especially to single parents, their job is twice as difficult.
The short answer to a very complex problem is that a DPC doesnāt depend on coding in an EHR to maximize a providerās reimbursement since insurance isnāt used and therefore, without an insurance company to sue, opportunistic lawyers are less likely to sue which drives up the costs. There is a lot more to the story but time and space constrains me from going deeper.
I would imagine they aren't also as protocol driven. My primary is with Mayo and he just inputs answers to questions from an EHR/EMR and follows the protocol. Which I'm sure is heavily influenced by pharma. He's nice enough though.
Seems to be getting very popular... as the quality of the PCP physicians craters behind Big Pharma restrictions and protocols... over-booking and insurance meddling...
You can participate but yes, you pay your Medicare premium plus your DPC premium but still come out ahead in many instances if youāre not using Medicare for the visit.
I have my first DPC appointment set up in another week or so. The Dr is a D.O. so hopefully he'll have the desire to look for cause vs symptoms only. I'm on Medicare so I did need to sign up for a monthly subscription. They allow cancellation at anytime.
When I submitted my disability claim to the VA, all my military medical records were hand written. Pity the poor VA person who had to read all that paperwork. Even I had trouble...would look at a entry and wonder what I even went to military sickcall for..
Kathleen, I DESPISE EMRs! As a med mal paralegal of 40 years, I got very good @ reading even the most illegible chicken scratch. EMRs turn a chart into 1000s of pages w/ repetitive information AND most screens are ādefaultsā, meaning that if the person making entries doesnāt physically type in correct info, it stays on the default & thus becomes completely useless & inaccurate.
In addition, it was NObummer who ushered in EMR & anything that MFāer did was not for the good of the country & likely mainly for the sake of consolidating & exploiting our health info (soon to add banking, purchases, social credit)
Cindi I AGREE! It to mention nurses and staff look at the computer and not the patient. Spend hours clicking so the CYA chart. Ugh same thing āI went into nursing to help peopleā now you chart and do not forget to hit SAVE š
ā¬ļø THIS. Do you want me to get your meds out on time, get your wounds dressed, get you to the bathroom, tell your family how to get to the cafĆØ, and move your Kleenex box an inch to the right (we do run into those kinds of expectations) when you expect me to or do you want me to play on the computer? Is a nurse too overwhelmed to do double the work (first to do the job and then to take herself out of multiple situations to document it promptly, accurately, coherently, all the perfect things) suddenly guilty of perjury or negligence when she attests to her actions in court?
I got passed over for a charge nurse position because my ātime managementā was not that of another candidate. Sorry if I stay a little late because I spend my shift actually trying to help my patients.
My primary care doctor never looks at me during my visits but only her laptop. My surgeon uses an app that transcribes our conversation so that she can actually look at and interact with the patient.
Iāve read so many charts with that voice transcript. Really not a fan of that but itās improved. Doctors are still responsible to read and sign their voice notes. Itās a better option than the face glued to the EMR
I agree. That EMRs are much more a control system embedded in a state sponsored system of health control. It's control of everything ... food, water, movements, cameras everywhere, smart phone data monitoring, car tracking ... and much, much more.
I believe that bureaucratized health records dehumanize people. And I think this every time I have to fill out 'their' stupid forms in the doctor's office. The whole system is a conveyor belt delivery operation
Such a system invariable ends up in lockdowns, stupid arrows on the floor, masking, wrecked lives ... and a general prison-like atmosphere. Compared to the freedom in the 1950's, I now feel that the United States has become one giant concentration camp run by Simon Says.
Only if they request a copy from medical records. They donāt get to look at it without doing that. And then the nightmares begin. š„“ since I am no longer working in that position. I cannot say if they were ever able to get their medical records corrected.š„¹ and if someone did not notify the doctor, it wasnāt fixed š¢
With the VA, I can log onto their website and see the medical record after every visit. Also can check my labs and imaging.
If I send my PCP a secure message, that also shows up in my electronic medical record. Kinda of found that out my accident when I went to look for something else. Great idea because then I have proof I identified a problem/issue/medical condition. No one can say I didn't tell them.
Oh, it looks great for the patient. But who retains legal ownership of your data? In the case of at least one EMR system youāve probably heard of, itās not you, itās not your providers, itās the EMR vendor.
We choose whether or not to carry a smartphone. We choose whether our not to drive vehicles that hand over all of our driving data with none of the context (disclaimer: I choose to own and operate vehicles too old to do this).
Most cannot afford to self-pay for their healthcare, so they really have no control over whom they can see, and of those providers, many rarely have control over which EMR theyāre using. Itās also not a question at top of mind when weāre suddenly in need of things like cancer or emergency care.
Also need to remove the insurance company and pharmaceutical companies from between the patients and their care givers. How would these clinics enable patient care ro be directed by health care providers and not institutions?
Oh, yes! My gyno said Obamacare and the rules of electronic records turned him into a data entry clerk. Another Dr lamented that he had to hire another RN just to handle all the calls to insurance companies. I'm old enough to remember when nurses and doctors looked at you and actually examined you rather than pecking away at a screen the whole visit. It infuriates me.
Is that what weāre calling you now? āPhysicianās Associateā? Why must we rename our midlevels? Iām honestly asking.
I was thinking about āAPRNā school (again, not sure what was wrong with ARNP) but Iām also so burned out, I also just want to be done with the whole blasted thing.
2021. Due to pressure from the AMA, many are still hesitant to use the new title which the founder of the profession in 1965, Eugene Stead, MD of Duke, felt as early as 1970 that Physician Associate was a more appropriate title for this type of medical practitioner after watching his creation in action for a few years.
I usually read through the comments later in the day, OR the next day while waiting for Jeff to drop C&C! It is amazing what I learn from this audience! I like the comments almost as much as Jeffās post.
I would do that in a heartbeat. I was lucky to have recently connected in person with another member in my area and it was wonderful. Everything we hoped for. God is good.
Absolutely fantastic to see C&C focusing on the big, big ,big issue of health ! I wonder how many people feel like i do...... my biggest fear is being brought to a pharma prison , laughingly called a "care giving facility" .... or hospital, for short.
Jeff's article today spells it out so well : the uncaring, drug peddling, mandated protocols , and outrageous pricing that has all but captured the helpless people who need some help. I can not say all this without also putting some blame on the blind followers who worship doctors and deny that anyone else without some paper on the wall can know a better way . Trying to pry those double fake cheese burger 4 pounders and 40 ounce cokes away from the masses ( and i mean Massive Masses) .... will take a herculean effort.
But ....... we gotta start somewhere. A very smart entrepeneur can , i predict, make a fortune by establishing an A.I Chat ND system that will focus on natural solutions to the myriad of diseases and smaller ailments that are now a plague . I spend hours going over the Earth Clinic website , having learned a lot and cured many issues ( ACV and BS for stomach problems for example. Drs all wanted me to take
PPI's...... terrible stuff and the opposite of what can help FIX the problem) .
Lots more personal anecdotes.... but you get my point. And btw, Jeff , next time some sinus issue starts ... put a few drops of 3% peroxide into your ears . This will prevent infection. Chat ND ! If i had about 30 million I'd start it myself . haha
Jeff's focusing on the health issue is REALLY helpful . Keep going !
Earth Clinic is awesome. Although I cannot get my ear issue resolved yet. ER had me put in prednisone. Awful side effects.Stoped after 4 days. Any suggestions. Some ain and ear fullness, pressure. They said ear infection. I may have to try IVERMECTIN like Jeff did. Than
I just canāt do it if itās more than 100! If Iām able to read the āstack & hit the comments right after, Iām good. But not getting the chance until an hour (or more) later itās a lost cause
Stay safe and healthy Carol. Thank you for taking care of the sick and helping them to get better and go home. And yes, prayers aplenty for all of them in hospital.
As soon as I feel something coming on, I pop an IVM, take 50mg of zinc (D+K in winter), rinse about a bizzillion times a day with listerine, and flush sinuses with a hydrogen peroxide/iodine/saline solution. That along with a big pot of homemade chicken soup and a kettle of elderberry tea seems to do the trick. Havenāt been sick in ages.
I started doing exactly the same 4 1/2 years ago and same: I havenāt had a cold/flu since then. I also stopped getting the annual flu shot as well. I bought a nasal spray with iodine on Amazon called Nasomin and I use it before boarding planes and public transit as a preventative. Itās great for travel.
XClear is great. I use it several times a week. I've always had problems with nosebleeds in the winter when the air gets really dry. XClear helps keep my nasal passages lubricated and less delicate.
suggest you consider a humidifier in your home for winter. Keep ours above 35% humidity.
Older homes are pretty leaky, cost more to heat. The more your furnace runs, the more "fresh" but DRY air it brings into your home which your furnace must then HEAT up to Room temp(expensive). Your air could be desert-dry causing the nosebleeds which, if air was brought up to reasonable humidity first, you would not suffer nosebleeds.
Not a good idea to be taking any med(MY opinion) "forever".
On X, I get people who swear by masking anecdotally that since they masked since 2020, they have never gotten a cold/flu and my response is that there are many out there who don't mask who can say the same thing.
Wonder if it's because those who are masking constantly are usually afraid to go around other people in the first place? :(
Or just confirmation bias, which seems more likely. My aunt and her family were "exposed" to someone who was sick and "masked up" to visit my mom before she left the state. They were constantly pulling the masks down to eat, yell, talk, breathe, and didn't have them over their noses when they did "wear" them. The theater was crazy - and even moreso that they just didn't realize what they were doing the whole time.
That could always be a factor. But we know from studies where people uninfected were put in rooms and exposed for long periods of time to infected people, that sometimes infections don't transmit. Similarly, there was a story early on in 2020 that only 16% of partners living in the same house with someone infected with COVID-19 got it themselves.
The questions about transmission are many. But we know exposure does not mean infection.
But there are many things to think about.
Some people that "tested positive" never actually manifest any symptoms. Some would say it is "asymptomatic spread," but why couldn't the test be false to begin with?
And remember the movie Dumbo where they large eared elephant could fly due to a feather...burying the lead "large ears with the ability to flap like wings." In this case, what if...i know this might shock people...your immune system actually worked.
Covid 19 and a legitimate infection are a contradiction in terms.
Your immune system when supported by all the good things God created in nature for that purpose is the very best protection, the God- Standard as it were. "vaccines" and "medicines" seem to be engineered to create chronic problems.
I found this article relatable to mask as they both talk about restricting air flow. As there is no studies on the effects of long term masking, this article makes you think twice about doing it even for the short term.
There are studies if you look for them, especially for Mask Induced Exhaustion Syndrome, or MIES. Kids have been forever hurt, traumatized for being forced to "mask up" for hours at a time. I'm not sure we will ever be able to fully understand the magnitude of the crime. A fucking crime against humanity has occurred and there has to be accountability.
In other news, one of the constellation of symptoms of Long Covid are neurological ones...that also have another source being "lack of oxygen." or hypoxia.
Thank you for this referral! Iāve had blocked dry nasal passages recently and I used to use Fluticasone spray to help sleep at night, but noticed they have chemicals in it I am trying to avoid, like Polysorbate 80 and dextrose. So Iām glad to have something else to try.
I use Xclear saline packets in my netti pot. I didnāt know they created a spray. And Iāve heard about sovereign silver too but never tried it. Iāll look it up today š
Xlear spray morning and evening for me! Helps with any congestion. Also very helpful are the Xlear packets available to put into netipots. "Xylitol mainly works by interfering with the bacteria and making it unable to stick to the body tissues. It has a unique effect of reducing the bacteriaās ability to produce biofilm thereby making the bacteria more susceptible to antibiotic." https://drugsdetails.com/xylitol-nasal-spray-use-directions-benefits-rinse/
I'm a xylitol junkie. I always have a glass of xylitol water on the counter and take a swig after I eat or drink anything during the day to prevent cavities. About 1/2 to 1 teaspoon per cup. Careful starting out as xylitol will jack up your stomach but I'm used to it so no problem. Also keep away from dogs as it is toxic to them.
I am a retired chiropractor (30 years) & would like to share a few natural remedies Including Ivermectin (which I take prophylactically):
Herb Pharm liquid Chaparral (Amazon) - use for any Herpes virus including shingles, insect bites - put 1-2 drop on finger & apply - it will sting for a couple seconds
Baking soda is good too... but many many millions have been using Listerine and similar daily (most mouthwashes have either alcohol or some antibacterial) for many many years and no major issues... at least that I am aware of...
I know that some lose their sense of taste and smell... but rarely?
I started on the equine version of ivermectin in the winter of 2021. I have taken it on and off for 4 years now. There is no reason not to make it an over the counter drug. Of course the price would then sky rocket.
I take a large pea sized dose, now about once every two weeks. During the bad seasons here, October through May, 2 times a week, or if a bad outbreak is happening, every other day. So far, so good.
My wife and I contracted Covid in Dec 2020, before it got "easy". She got it first. We had to fight the system to get IVM and ended up driving 70 miles to a concierge doc while sick to get a prescription. On starting IVM my symptom progression, which had been mirroring hers and lagging by a couple of days, immediately stopped. I experienced severe fatigue for 2-3 days and not much else. She was further along but also improved immediately. I know a personally few other couples who followed the same pattern.
I refused to get vaxxed (under threat of firing) and in early 2022 after getting some type of cold/flu started pre-dosing with IVM every time I started feeling any respiratory illness come on. Prior to doing this I would usually get a lingering sinus/respiratory illness in each fall and sometimes a sinus issue in the spring from pollen.
After starting to pre-treat with IVM I went 3.5 years without any significant respiratory illness until just last month.
Losing a beloved companion is such an agonal part of being a pet parent. They are indeed Earth Angels on four paws that are also our teachers. They truly demonstrate unconditional love. You were blessed to have shared the years she was with you. She earned her Angel Wings and waits for you someday further on.
Me too! The medical community would have us all get sick first and then throw expensive treatments with side effects at us rather than let us all know that we can easily stave off many sicknesses.
Nard said : āā¦ rinse about a bizzillion times a day with listerine ā¦ā
Just a word on LISTERINE. Iāve been plagued with tartar and 3 times a year going to the dental hygienist to remove it. I used Scope for years and it didnāt stop the bacteria that causes plaque and tartar to form, then I tried every other dental rinse out there to no avail.
At long last I resorted to good old Listerine which I had avoided because it burns my mouth and is not the best flavor around. And guess what?! It stopped the formation of plaque and tartar on my teeth. Stopped it dead in its tracks. No more dental hygienist visits. I use a dental oral mirror to check every part of my teeth and no tartar has formed.
( Note: I used Listerine after every meal or snack after using dental floss and tooth brushing. I do not allow any food particles to stay on my teeth for the bacteria to feed upon, and before ābedtimeā I do a quick rinse with hydrogen peroxide with a follow up of Listerine.)
By Povidine Iodine(10% solution I believe) and dilute it 10 to 1 with pure water, distilled or RO water. But beware, the Povidine bottle will have (on the label) an expiration date and when that comes around it goes in the trash. Circle it and be aware. It will have NO effect after that!
re: "The photo of the horse and the four white robed "credentialed" and yet puzzled "experts".
My caption, "Horse teaches the medical/science* "experts" that Ivermectin is a life saving medication for both horses and humans - proven by billions of pills administered to both with proven efficacy." Horse turns, then takes a massive dump at their feet and trots off.
re: "Who squandered patient trust in doctors during the pandemic, by proving the Hippocratic āOathā is, at best, a hypocritical suggestion? Who created the environment where patients are more likely to trust their chatbots than their internists?
Doctors, thatās who."
We talk about accountability and reckoning a lot. The reprobates in the corrupt "medical community" who did the pLandemic to us - MURDERING millions, must pay a high price for what they did and if AI works to put a lot of them in new jobs, like perhaps "sanitation engineers" - then I say GOOD!
Listen, as someone who rarely takes any medication, I got the Big C Covid July 2020. I was very sick. I was in bed for two weeks, there were days I couldnāt even remember if I ate anything. I had it coming out both ends, which is also a symptom of Covid. And I coughed for seven weeks. So when someone says itās just a cold right, it kind of makes me mad because they engineered this thing to kill us. And it had a demonic component. I can tell you that about day five you feel like you are going to die. Itās almost like a fear comes over you. I believe that whole thing was created in a lab again to kill us. And so in the beginning, it was not a common cold for everyone. My husband got it after me, was very sick for only 2 days. That was it. Go figure.
Thank you, Melissa. My husband was VERY sick when the whole thing first started, and I had a much milder version. I also get frustrated with those who act like itās no big deal and the same for everybody! Ultimately, Godās providence and HE is the healer.
Which is WHY doctors should have been allowed to establish a protocol for COVID. Instead, they were discouraged from recommending what worked (ivermectin and hydroxycholoriquine, among other things) and instead sent patients home with the admonition, "Call me when it's bad enough for you to go to the hospital." To me, that was like saying, "Call me when your wound become gangrenous." WORTHLESS PHYSICIANS who did that.
It's not a question of "no big deal" but context. To someone with rheumatoid arthritis, many minor infections can be a big deal to them. Should all be mandated to accommodate the few? We shut down whole countries, businesses, etc, to accommodate the few "vulnerable" and in so doing, we maximized fear and panic narratives surrounding them and allowed it to "creep" into many our awareness and it has made a substantial inroads at revising the social contract concerning illness, how we handle it, and who the onus is on concerning risk assessment.
Yes, some pushback to this is to marginalize those who have difficulties. To someone suffering from an illness, it is difficult. But should we upend society for such a thing? The government would say "yes."
I got SOMETHING in Feb of 2020, unlike anything Iād ever had beforeā¦literally thought I was going to die. I woke up in the middle of the night thinking, āso this is how it ends.ā I was a healthy 53 year old woman in decent physical shape. Iāve been sick before, but nothing like that. I assume it was the first variant of Covid. A lingering cough for weeks after recovery, and then fine after that. Latter variants were mild and more cold-like for most. But that Delta was no joke.
I've had a few of those in my lifetime. It's called the flu. I had it also coming out of my nose. It is just a cold/flu. I say "just" not out of hand, and not with any sense of discarding it, but it needs to be put in the proper context. What happened to you, all five days of death, and the persistent cough afterwards, it is a common symptom of a cold/flu.
And while it is going on, it feels like s. And the older you get, the wiser you get (hopefully), even as it may feel far worse than it ever did before. But while those are valid experiences and feelings, a novel deadly virus they do not make.
As far as what makes us mad, it will happen. I used to get mad quite a bit when people called me all sorts of names on X. I usually lean into it now. If I harass you and call you names, that would indicate an intention to "make you mad." But in the end, you get to decide how you feel.
My intention is not to make you angry, but if I was sold on a fake pandemic, I would be livid, my anger might be towards the messenger, but ultimately it would be at those responsible for locking down countries, ruining economies, and convincing people to take experimental injections and wear bacteria factories on their face for a cold/flu.
If the government lied to you about something, why not other things? If they lied about the "origin" of the virus, could they lie about the virus being real at all?
My husband was coughing for months. Not Covid. I think its radiation. He also works next to a police station and is an auto tech. Lots of chemicals and diagnostic tools.
There was definitely a lot of dishonesty around Covid, but it exists. We got it in 2021, I took my kids to our homeschool co-op not realizing one of them was getting sick. That night he got a very high fever. The next morning it was gone but he had a sniffle, so I tested him. He came back positive. No one else did yet. I let the co-op know. It was like a bomb going off that spread outwards from his class and teachers to their siblings and so on, each person getting it from the last in an obvious way. It was mild for my son, and then each of my other kids got it in turn with the same symptoms. After a couple days I tested positive with symptoms so slight they were basically non existent. Husband tested positive with slightly worse symptoms. After a few days my tests were negative and the kids as well. Some people at our co-op got it somewhat bad (feeling flu like for a couple weeks) and others mild like us. So because of the symptoms plus the spread plus the tests lining up as positive and negative as it came and went with so many people, I know it exists. Perhaps itās similar with flu but it did seem odd in that some people got it so bad and even died, and others barely felt it. It also seems like it was worse for people early on.
The only difference between pre 2020 and now is the one phrase: "so I tested him, he came back positive." The false PCR test was the difference. Before 2020, did people even get to notion to test for a cold/flu?
From what you have thus far explained, it sounds like a cold/flu. High fevers are not uncommon with colds and flus. Isn't it odd that for years the cold and flu disappeared, only to be supplanted by another disease that was "novel and deadly", yet was instrumental in killing the same people susceptible to the cold and flu and with the same symptoms as the cold/flu?
What you are describing in detail here is something before 2020, nobody would bother because it is a very familiar tale of "getting sick." And this is how it has been since time immemorial.
"it did seem odd in that some people got it so bad and even died, and others barely felt it. It also seems like it was worse for people early on."
This is the nature of sickness. It's not odd at all. If Covid was a novel deadly virus, it would have taken all regardless. It would have taken a top tier athlete, old person, child, regardless. But we didn't see that at all.
I mostly agree with you- if no one freaked out about Covid, it wouldāve just been an unremarkable, moderately bad normal flu season. We donāt sit around constantly testing for colds. Except I do think Covid exists, and was made in a lab to be very infectious. The testing was kind of silly, and not totally reliable, but it did line up with coming up positive as symptoms appeared, then coming up negative as they disappeared, and it happened that way with many, many people at our co-op, spreading outward in an obvious way from each other. And Covid had symptoms and a feel to it that was different from a usual cold or flu.
It is interesting exactly as you say, that colds/flu ādisappearedā during that time. Itās either that every cold/flu was counted as Covid (and there were tons of incentives to do this), but I also think itās possible that the Covid virus did actually push out all other viruses for a while. It was made in a lab and acts weird.
I think that Covid exists as well, but it was a relabeled "cold or flu." It would not take much to have symptoms align with testing because most of those who tested were self-selecting. If you had to be swabbed to be admitted to a hospital "shock" you tested positive for a disease when you weren't feeling well. Shock #2: You went to a testing facility to check if you had Covid because you "felt sick."
It would be interesting to see if those who were coerced to test regardless of symptoms actually developed any symptoms later because there are many reports that the forced quarantines due to contact tracing and forced testing in order to enter into some places (and travel) amounted to nothing.
In terms of covid "feeling different." I would argue that in a couple of ways.
1. You never step in the same river twice. So no matter when you get a disease, it is always going to feel different. Getting the flu at 4 at 14 at 24 etc. all have different "feelings" to them.
I wonder if some day I will look upon this response and think "yep, getting this cold at (whatever age I am in the future) is far more of an ordeal than it was when I would blow through than here at 58.
2. Would you have known it was different if you had not been inundated with 24/7 propaganda for years?
3. While I agree that you have to at times trust your instincts. At other times you can be deceived by your own perceptions.
Before 2020, I was full onboard against the anti-vax crackpots. Heck, a couple years ago I was on the "reasonable wagon" with the mRNA shot being an experimental injection, but just to prove to my doctor I was not a crackpot, I took the pneumonia vaccine.
Now I am questioning viruses and virology along with vaccinoloy because if you look into the history of it, it gets a bit sketchy.Have they ever directly extracted a virus from an "infected sample?" Have they run control experiments with no samples and employing the same method of isolating and culturing? Did those controls render similar artifacts under an electron microscope considered to be "viruses?"
The work of Stefan Lanka and now Jamie Andrews concerning this type of work casts continued doubt that has existed since virology's inception.
I don't have a dog in the hunt, when it comes to "do viruses exist?" though this may be interesting to the science-minutia oriented...
But diseases do exist and if "anti-virals" help prevent or cure them, and they DO... I am not that interested in nomenclature.
But... if viruses don't exist... what causes all the diseases currently thought to be caused by viruses? And do the causes differ between the various "viral" diseases?
I do have a dog in this hunt when I am mandated to receive a vaccine or to be coerced into performing medical theater. So yes, if experts are going to mandate we do something, the onus is on them to prove it is a "clear and present danger" to use the parlance of national security.
Diseases do exist, but is it "anti-virals" that work, or are they simply aiding in initiating an antibody response? Could not the medication meant to inhibit the replication of viruses also be used to inhibit the symptomatic response of whatever it is the body is actually doing? And is symptomatic inhibition necessarily a good thing? The answer is, of course yes, if the continued elevation of such symptoms leads to death.
I know it's wrong to do so, but doing my own research into "what causes different viral diseases?" can render some interesting results. For instance, for smallpox, a case could be made that it was caused not by a virus, but by toxic environmental elements due to bad sanitation or exposure to toxic materials. Arsenic to name one.
In early smallpox history, there was an English town that refused to vaccinate for smallpox and instead elected to clean up their sanitation, and magically, the smallpox cases dropped. We also know that the measles epidemic had been dropping for many years before the vaccine was introduced. Polio has a similar history in that there could be another source than a virus.
I add to that with ClO2... I take that prophylactically 2X a day, 3-drop dose. I don't know if it's a placebo effect or what, but I SWEAR my old-age eyes now need about 1X less reader magnification than they did 3-4 months ago...
here's a link (provided by Dr Kory) on some info on ClO2/dosing /differences etc. You can buy CDS and MMS on amazon. I use CDS 3000ppm I bought there to get rid of a biofilm causing repeat UTI. Just did the protocol of 5-6-7ml (dose increases daily) in liter of water drink a portion every hour til done in 8 hours for a week. Got rid of the UTI brewing and hope to cycle on and off until no longer needed. The water protocol (helpfully) also gets you drinking more water which helps too.
Itās odd, but it can be written in almost any combination, itās the same product. Hocl is the proper way, as far as Iām concerned. And Iām not a chemist, but you can google it. I use it in my water pic. Quite a bit. Itās expensive, but it keeps your dental visits down to a minimum, and good practice according to dentists. Itās made in Tampa, I get it by the gallon.
Hypochlorous acid (HoCl) can be made at home - I've been making it since about 2020. Initial cost can be high, but i use it all around the house - instead of bleach in the washing machiine, sanitizing all sorts of things, diluted for eye spray, etc.
Iāve used this company in Tampa: Curativa. Curativabay.com for Hypochlorous skin care. Go there for more information. Also great home cleaning purposes.
That is exactly what I said. Doing independent research, if you are not aware, IS asking questions and trying to find answers. One should not blindly accept another's recommendations. THAT is what I said.
Itās condescending. In this community you donāt need to tell someone āplease do some independent researchā and then say nothing more, because it implies that you believe they are not already. How can you know that?? How can you know she is blindly accepting someoneās recommendation and not taking other things into account at the same time? She asked for a link to information someone gave. So what? Why interfere in her question if you have nothing at all to add other than doubt about her common sense?
The site listed was directly from Dr. Kory's postings FYI. He said it had info on dosing etc as he didn't want to post that in his article because it is a tad complex and would then constitute "medical advice" which he was not explicitly giving per se.
Some of the docs publishing "hidden" medical info minimize that risk and answer more detailed questions in comments for paid subscribers. Don't know if Kory does that.
If you want to dig deeper, search for the founder of MMS Jim Humble and Forbidden Health by Andreas Kalcker (www.AndreasKalcker.com). Kalcker has an ebook for about $10 with protocols he's "aware of" for about three dozen ailments. I use the quotes bc I can't remember the specifics of his particular work and and expertise. At the time, I did significant due diligence to my satisfaction,.resulting in my trusting of his protocols as *considerations* should I experience any of the ailments his book addresses.
As always, Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV). Due your research w.r.t. YOUR health.
We're all in different metabolic states.
I've come to believe most of the ailments I've had stem from cellular level problems, and Chlorine Dioxide has great promise to repair that to some degree. I could be wrong, but EVERYTHING I've read suggests it has safe levels to test it.
NOTE - GENERAL CAUTIONARY STATEMENT:
Chlorine Dioxide/MMS can cause discomfort if you start it too fast. Follow the start up protocols if you decide to test it. Or get a physician that can guide you. And verify contraindications for you personally. I don't take ANY meds, never anything longer than 10 days and stronger than amoxicillin. I've no allergies I've found in 62 yrs. I'm very healthy, but have a few minor issues on occasion. So my experience is likely best case. Think for yourself about yourself. Start slowly, and seek expert help if your condition has complications.
The more complicating factors, the more expertise is generally required. More factors equals more complex problem solving. Know your limitations at your point in life and respect that.
Sorry. Chlorine Dioxide. Or MMS. Dr. Kory did a deep dive on that in his Substack recently for folks new to it. Works at the cellular level with mitochondria function repair and improvement.
and it's not only ivermectin the medical industry has suppressed - DMSO has marvelous healing capabilities and today Dr. Mercola reports on the incredible healing properties of UV treated blood - all suppressed by the medical industry which it becomes clearer & clearer each day is not interested in healing but only managing symptoms and getting paid by Pharma
Have you read A Midwestern Doctorās columns about DMSO? Talk about a deep dive, she (I think) has done probably 6 long articles about DMSO, each one tackling a specific thing like orthopedic uses, uses for eye issues, etc. There was also one about DMSO history, and they are all SO WELL researched. Could absolutely be combined into a book.
Dr. Mercola often includes one of his/her columns - always very informative - but that he/she has to use an alias says a lot about our medical establishment
Unsteady, count me in on the Ivermectin! We have it on hand - used it and Hydroxychloroquine successfully during covid and the IVM for a couple of issues afterwards. The fact that IVM has been used for over 40 years with 4 billion doses administered and was on the (now irrelevant) WHOās list of āessential medsā should tell us something positive. Eh?
And, Jeff, count me (after having done my research and used my common sense) as one of the ānoncompliantsā - proudly so.
Instead of aspirin, I take a cayenne pepper tincture, usually 2 times a day. I make it myself using 1/4 cup of 150,000hu of cayenne pepper (Southwest Botanicals), 3/4 cup of vegetable glycerin (food grade) and a 1/4 cup of water. Shake well and put into amber dropper bottles. I use two droppers full in a Dixie cup and mix with water. It may seem hot the first couple of times, especially if youāre not used to it, but itās a wonderful natural remedy to thin the blood. Cayenne pepper has been shown to stop some heart attacks and strokes, in their tracks, if placed under the tongue during an attack. I carry Cayenne pepper tincture and powder with me wherever I go, just in case.
Iām the same. I donāt even have a doctor. If I have an issue I go to urgent care and see a PA. Iāve gone twice in the past five years. My allergies always end in upper respiratory infections. I wish theyād add antibiotics to the OTC list.
1) Ivermectin is one of the ingredients in the cream used to treat Rosacea
2) Epoch Times published an article yesterday on Joe Tipper's 2016 self treatment for his terminal cancer using Fenbendazole and Ivermectin which I never thought I would see in any widely read publication.
It has helped in shrinking my hemorrhoids. Better than going in paying $400 a visit for banding to shrink them. $16 for the ivermectin cream from tractor supply.
CVS has an Ivermectin lotion that they sell as lice treatment. Itās Ivermectin 0.5% and itās suitable for topical application. Itās the CVS brand.
I use it for rosacea that I developed from wearing those idiotic masks.
Ditto for Walmart. I got some for some ringworm-like (fungal?) lesions on my hands and forearm, and there has been a noticeable improvement. Not as fast as I would like, but itās working. I couldnāt find anything with more than a 0.5% concentration, other than the horse paste products at 1.87%, but my impression is that the latter is for internal use (and, please, if it is fine for external use, someone please sound off).
In the past Iāve used the horse paste on some pre-cancerous lesions I had on my forehead and along the jawline with great success. They completely disappeared after 3-4 weeks. Havenāt had any more since.
The 12 mg are perfect for my body weight, as IVM is dosed by body weight (for both prevention and treatment).
Their customer service is open to talk to Monday through Saturday from 9 am ET to 5:30 am ET. They tend to change their payment method options, so I put the items into my cart on their website, and then I call them to discuss their current payment options. Sometimes they take PayPal; sometimes they donāt. One time I chose the option to mail a check to their US-based third party vendor with a copy of my order. When the third party vendor received the check, the pharmacy sent my order. It does take several weeks to receive it, but even with the shipping cost, it is the cheapest Iāve found.
I also order Careprost (generic Latisse which has made my lashes much longer), generic tretinoin, and last time I ordered tacrolimus .03% so that I didnāt need to go back to the doctor AND that terrific product costs way too much on my current drug plan (I think a tube at Walgreens was going to cost $200, so I paid my India pharmacy $18.32 for the same quantity).
I use Indiamart, too. Pretty painless, may be slightly confusing, at first. You'll go to the website, search for whatever med you are looking to buy. You may a get a lot of responses from different vendors. Some say they will call, but I've been able to by pass that. Ignore the part on the form where it asks for a prescription---you don't need one. The particular vendor that I use is Salmani Pharmaceuticals. Very attentive and receptive, and meds are at your home within about 2 weeks. The payment method is through Remitly, which is like PayPal. They may have other options, though. Currently, they are selling 100 12/mg IVM for $5. Shipping is $30, up to 1000 pills. I have a friend who also orders her husband's migraine meds there, too.
I use Indiamart, too. Pretty painless, may be slightly confusing, at first. You'll go to the website, search for whatever med you are looking to buy. You may a get a lot of responses from different vendors. Some say they will call, but I've been able to by pass that. Ignore the part on the form where it asks for a prescription---you don't need one. The particular vendor that I use is Salmani Pharmaceuticals. Very attentive and receptive, and meds are at your home within about 2 weeks. The payment method is through Remitly, which is like PayPal. They may have other options, though. Currently, they are selling 100 12/mg IVM for $5. Shipping is $30, up to 1000 pills. I have a friend who also orders her husband's migraine meds there, too.
I take ivermectin via a pill as well. I am sorta experimenting with what works. What I have experienced is an improvement overall. With adding walking and weight loss I am trying to improve my overall health as well. That's gotta help too. All this info is for full disclosure so you can make your own decisions. š„°
Only if you get the "apple flavored" version! šš¤£ Over the years, my "unscientific" poll of the livestock re: ivermectin - 50% of horses, goats, and sheep like the apple-flavored IVM over non-flavored IVM. We had 1 horse and a couple of goats who would rummage through the trash to find the empty tubes to chew on! I had to bury the tubes deep in the trash can and make sure the tack room door was securely latched on deworming day!
Yay, I'm glad! This was the horse that figured out how to open every gate and stall door on the farm, turn on the barn lights, and would steal a bite of whatever you were eating, including doughnuts, turkey sandwiches, and chili! I kept telling him he was an herbivore not an omnivore, but he never listened. My mama says I should write a book......
People have said I should write a book about my cats and their antics. Perhaps a compendium of wonderful, dumb animal stories that will make you smile? I've been mulling over my next book...
If you write it, they will read it, to paraphrase Field of Dreams. I am sure you would have plenty of folks here who would love to read a book like that!
We have had a varied menagerie over the years (horses, goats, sheep, dogs, cats) and have come to the conclusion that baby goats are just about the cutest babies ever. We say that goats are friendly like dogs and as curious as cats - the curiosity factor makes for some interesting predicaments! I came home from work and found Casper (the Friendly Goat) with his rump in the air and his head stuck under the fence! Who knows how long he had been stuck; I am sure it was a grass-is-greener scenario, as the neighbor's side of the fence had some lush grass within tempting reach!
They are endlessly entertaining! Some are very talkative - if you "maa" at them they will "maa" right back. They just have to poke their muzzles into whatever you are doing.
One must have very good fencing for goats as they are Houdinis at finding any weakness in the fence. I came home from work to find all of the goats in the garden, happily munching away on the almost-ready-to-harvest pumpkins! That was not entertaining!
Great - of course it does. Like so many others, I grew up trusting doctors, veterinarians, teachers, etc. Due to some health issues and damage by the medical "system" I have been questioning everything, reading labels, looking up studies, etc., but I didn't think to read the ingredients on the "horse paste"! I am still getting used to the idea that you cannot trust the veterinarians, either. What a world we live in!
Had lunch with my old college boyfriend the other day. Weāve stayed good friends over the years. We still have friends in common this group is āyou canāt come on a girls weekend at the coast unless youāre vaccinatedā. When I whined to him about it he said to me, ājust get vaccinated, theyāre safeā. I just said no thanks. Was finally invited back this last November, I said āno thanksā again! š
Background, heās a vet school washout who became a successful vet drug and supply rep. I wanted to send him yesterdayās C&C since he is expecting his first grand baby.
I also wanted to ask āgee, you think your tachycardia could have been caused by the vax?ā since he mentioned it the other day and how successful the surgery was.
Anyway, the point of all this Mrs. t K, is our shared disappointment in the veterinary world.
I get the unflavored ivermectin from Amazon but itās the gel. I donāt like it as much. I use it for skin problems like pre-cancers.
The pour-ons are not ingestible. The drenches probably won't hurt you, but they aren't concentrated enough. A little more here...https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/
HAHA! I could think of worse things to smell like.
I only knew this because my godmother had rosacea and I read the ingredients on the medication she was using to topically treat it. Her RX was covered by Medicare.
I have a soolantra script for rosacea that I donāt really need for rosacea anymore but I fill it because I like it so much for other random skin stuff. $15 copay.
Durvet makes an apple flavor thatās actually more like a gel and also a white paste. Zimecterin also makes a white paste. They may offer an apple one as well but my local farm store doesnāt carry it. At least I havenāt seen it there.
Did you know fenbendazole paste is also sold in a tube next to the IVM horse paste? My store was out of the IVM paste so I got the fenben. It worked better on my husbandās eczema than the IVM paste.
The reason I was getting the IVM paste was for a dark, rough spot that had shown up on my shin many months prior - not a scab and hadnāt recalled a mole there. The IVM paste removed it and the scar has all but disappeared.
According to a study by the Cleveland Clinic, the 2024 flu shots efficacy was -27%. That is negative efficacy! That means that the people who got the shot for 27% more likely to get the flu!!! People would be so much better taking vitamin D3 vitamin E. Shortly before the flu shots were massively pushed years ago, there was a paper showing that giving elderly people in nursing homes vitamin E (I believe it was 800 IU) cut the rate of respiratory deaths in half. Cue the fraudulent media reports trying to slander vitamin E.
Iām guessing that the people who regularly take the flu shot are more likely to have taken the COVID jabs, so their immune systems are already a mess. Iām definitely not saying the flu shot would be effective if you havenāt had the C-jab, but Iām wondering if we will see similar results this year. It will be interesting to see if peopleās immune systems start to eventually recover. (I donāt have a lot of hope for thisā¦)
Iām pretty sure they screen those factors out when they do a study like this. And I agree with you that I hold out very little hope that peopleās damaged immune system systems from the Covid shots will recover.
I used to never get flu shots. Then I got married, and about 20 years ago my loving wife strongly ārecommendedā that I get a flu shot. So I did. I didnāt get it every single year, I would always put it off until she (politely or non-politely) nagged me to get it. Over the timeframe from roughly 20 years ago until the beginning of Covid, I probably had about five or six shots. At least three of those times, within a few days of getting the shot, I got the flu. So, yes, I noticed the negative effectiveness also, though I didnāt scientifically track it.
Well, suffice it to say that I am no longer getting the flu shot, and especially after I heard that several of the Covid vax companies were incorporating that witchās brew into the flu vaccine without being very upfront about it. Oh, the information was available, but itās buried in the small print on those stupid handouts they give with every drug, and I donāt know too many people who read those things.
Rare does not mean what we think it means in the medical setting. For adverse events it means between 1 in 1000 and 1 in 10000 individuals experience the side effect. 1 in 1000 is not great odds and does not sound all that rare to me. Uncommon means between 1 in 100(!) And 1 in 1000. That doesn't sound all that uncommon either.
So if they use "rare", I don't think that means what they want us to think it means.
As a retired nurse, wife of MD, & mother of an MD, I trusted the medical establishment. Not any more! Both my husband & daughter are red-pilled. We have purchased Iver from India for 4 years. During an ear infection with hearing loss & recurring UTIs & after 5 courses of antibiotics plus Iver, a pharmacist recommended Aquamira (Chlorine Dioxide). Within 2 weeks my ear was clear, my hearing restored, & no UTIs in the past year. Anecdotal, but our family has new respect for alternatives.
How do you use it for ear infection?I have some CDS. I went to ER and was put on prednisone and had to stop after 4 days. Severe anxiety and bloody noses. Still have ear infection too. I need help. Thank you
No elimination of any vaccines currently recommended for pregnant women, children, or adults.
No required elimination of mercury-laden thimerosal from vaccines, or aluminum for that matter, or any of the other toxic, poisonous, heinous ingredients that comprise each and every vaccine.
No recall or withdrawal of any improperly and unethically tested and approved vaccine, which is all of them.
No moratorium on vaccines issued, despite known corruption and fraud from manufacture to mandate, and known dangers, including death, disability, chronic illness, and infertility.
No declaration that bodily autonomy, parental rights, religious freedom, informed consent, and the ethical practice of medicine cannot take place in the presence of mandates, and therefore, mandates must be eliminated.
And it was apparently more important for the panel to discuss the chikungunya vaccine than what happened to your children and mine after their āroutineā vaccines.
More of the same. Unacceptable. Inexcusable. A travesty.
(I posted this comment on Age of Autism this morning.)
Iāve made it to a very old age, mainly, I believe because I was not subjected to childhood vaccines ā¦ smallpox and polio only. Had and survived all the usual: measles, mumps, chicken pox.
As an adult I had the tetanus vax twice, shingles once, and flu vax 6-8 times. Stopped all vaxes about 8 years ago and will never have another. Terrified of being sedated now because Iāve read about cases where sedated patients were jabbed with C-19 vax if not up-to-date with vax schedule.
Assuming you are conscious and able to sign the consent form, you need to know to cross off the part about agreeing to ābiologicsā or ābiogenicsā, code names for vaccines. You should also clearly write on the form that you do not consent to any vaccines, biologics, or biogenics, and then make sure that everyone involved in your care has been made aware of that. Not foolproof in todayās world, but would hopefully work to protect you.
I just learned today, that a clientās daughter was given the Covid shot despite the fact that she didnāt want it and they said it was the tetanus shot. So a lot of horrible horrible things have been going on.š±š¢
I had surgery last month and I had a talk with all involved regarding this very topic. Not only that, I wanted no "blood transfusion" or "blood products" as they can't guarantee there is no COVID injection product in the blood. I don't want nor need someone else's spike protein garbage in my body when I have worked diligently to avoid it on my own.
If you are conscious when admitted and have to sign a consent form, cross out the line listing vaccines or biogenics. And initial it saying No Vaccines.
Also fill out an advance directive and have it on file with your doc and the hospital. Say āno vaccinesā or biogenics.
Iām not a lawyer but I think this could work. At the very least you can sue if they do jab you. I hope itās not just wishful thinking.
You have more faith, than I do I donāt trust them at all. Thatās something that disappeared completely five years ago. š„¹ I think if you go in the hospital, you have to have somebody with you 24 hours a day to make sure that they donāt do things that you donāt want them to do.š¢
I just read the Thimerosal Material Safety Data Sheet on Wayback Machine.
Nasty stuff.
It seems the only safe way to dispose of it is to mix it with a flammable solvent and burn it in an incinerator that has an afterburner and a scrubber.
That is, if one does not have access to hypodermic needles and arms into which one can jab it.
Exactly. To read more about this heinous vaccine ingredient, and the availability of thimerosal-free flu vaccines, or lack thereof, making the recommendation untenable, read #3 in this presentation of mine from 2018. I doubt the situation has changed since then.
Thank you for the dose of reality. Far too much back patting around here and not enough critical thinking and research. Most everyone here was giddy about DOGE but ultimately DOGE didn't do jack other than steal our sensitive data - which when warned about you were accused of being a Biden supporting POS.
Hubs and I are camping in Indiana this week. My sister is in Vegas. The weather here in Indiana is worse than there, what with the tropical humidity pushing up the heat index, and weāve been spending a lot of time outdoors.
Itās definitely been not-so-great weather for outdoor activities these past few days š At least itās not been rainy like the first part of the month I guess. Itās supposed to get a little better next week.
Not fun being in the downpour at the local farmers market last night, but since I got that out of the way am enjoying reading the comments section with my āhappy Fridayā coffee from a local stand. Gotta love our Washington summersš
Praise be to God for His Mercy and Goodness. Thank you for saving Donald Trump so we can elect him again and start the process of turning our country around. I pray for more conversions that people turn to God so that He continues to spare us from the chastisement we deserve.
Marylandās Governor Wes Moore snapped, āMake no mistake: this unprecedented action is a transparent effort to intimidate judges and usurp the power of the courts.ā
Newspeak translation:
usurp the power of the courts=return power to the executive branch, where it rightfully belongs
And New York is now telling Maryland, āHold my beer!ā What a crazy world! I think the East and West coast states are fighting for the Best Communist Award!
My first night back at work always starts with a LONG day, as I usually wake fairly early on Fridays and then stay up the whole day before working all night. I try to nap, but I am usually unsuccessful. It is what it is, but I do love my job.
The left always projects to protect the grift. No kings = secret kings usurp legislating from the bench to protect their grift. The pattern is the same behind every bit of screeching they do and every effort to over reach to destroy our cultural institutions. We have to keep saying what is obvious, long after we think we should, so that the bulk of people catch up. Once you see the pattern you can't unsee it. It's everywhere. DOGE has been an icebreaker in that regard.
Anyone familiar with the history of how and why the Constitution was written the way it was (and the Federalist Papers is an excellent source), knows that the Founders purposely split the power of government into three reasonably co-equal branches, with the idea that no one branch could accumulate too much power because the other two would be jealous of their own power and fight that third branch in various ways. I like to imagine that Somewhere, somehow, those.Founders are smiling when they learn of the apoplexy and gnashing of teeth in the judicial branch, because they know that their system is working exactly as planned. The judicial branch is supposed to rule upon the constitutionality of the laws, and the methods by which those laws are enforced. It is not supposed to make law, and I am absolutely certain that lower level courts do not have jurisdiction nationwide (though I suppose we will have to wait for the Supreme Court to make that ruling, hopefully today) - there is, after all, only one supreme court. The district courts and circuit courts have jurisdiction within their congressionally laid out jurisdictions, not everywhere. Thatās why they taught us in law school that when one circuit court ruled a certain way, it didnāt bind the circuit courts everywhere else, and thatās why the Supreme Court often weighs in when there are circuit splits on various issues.
To say that I am thrilled to see how upset the judicial and legal communities are about the executive branch, pushing back against the judiciary, would be the understatement of the century. Oh, as strongly alluded to above, I am an attorneyā¦ but I am a citizen first, meaning that my loyalty is to this country and the original intent of those who drafted the Constitution and the various amendments, not to the current political or financial or egotistical preferences of much lesser people in the present day.
It's been a while since I've been here...Extremely busy. We visited a friend's autistic son who was diagnosed with tongue cancer....the nurse at the nurse's station told us "This may sound like a conspiracy theory, but I can't believe how many cases of cancer we are seeing in young people." š¤
Yes. He's in his 20's but only about 1st grade for mental development. It was hard to see him in so much pain after they removed over half his tongue with skin grafts to rebuilt the tongue. šŖ
Autistic adult patients are very hard to treat, as they can be strongly resistant to help. It takes a lot of time and patience to solicit their cooperation. Praying for your friendās son and your friend and all the staff working with them.
Also heard from a friend whose son has autism that he has a hard time articulating what hurts and how it feels, as well as having a pain gauge that is off kilter š
A horrific, Frankensteinian-like procedure. We did those types of procedures in the big teaching hospital I used to work at on the ENT floor. Absolutely awful.
I can't tell you how many patients were simply not prepared for their post-op appearance. It broke my heart on several occasions to accompany patients as they saw themselves for the first time after surgery. I am convinced that surgeons, at that time at least, didn't really obtain informed consent. I once asked a surgeon if they ever show patients photos to which he said, "oh, gosh, no. No one would ever consent." That says it all. I imagine plastic surgery has developed in the last 20+ years so maybe they can do a lot to mitigate against the ravages of the procedure now.
I had one patient, Joe (a farmer who required radical dissection of his lower jaw, neck and half his face) who was insistent on getting out of bed and looking at himself one day after surgery. His wife begged me to tell him no. I bargained with him that I would assist him to the bathroom and that we would look together but that I wanted him to remember it was early days, and his body would heal and that though he would never look the same as before, this wasn't the final appearance. So, I got him up with all his IV lines and oxygen line and foley bag and JP drains hanging from his neck wounds and together with his wife we went into his bathroom where he looked. And tears just streamed down all of our faces. He turned to me and mouthed "thank you." I hugged him and his wife and we completed his daily care.
He returned to the clinic several months later and made a point of stopping by the floor to see me. I couldn't believe how much better he looked. He was still scarred and his face was collapsed and his neck looked like a dog had bitten half of it away. But the smile on his face lit up the area around him and I learned that he and his wife submitted my name to the hospital for special recognition. It was a good day.
It truly is and she is such a good person making the world a better place. And then I ask God why good people have to suffer such bad tribulations and the evil ones have nary a care. It is maddening to me.
My father was an oral surgeon. While I certainly did not ask him about every case that he worked on, I do recall a few times that he mentioned that a patient of his had tongue cancer. This was in the 1970s through 1990s timeframe. I would put an emphasis on the āfewā cases - you are correct that it is rare, and somebody like my father would have seen a lot more than the average doctor.
This hurts my heart Robin to hear this. He and his family have enough to deal with. I will add him to my prayer list. My friend just had tongue cancer surgery 2 weeks ago. She has been covid jabbed. it was a gruesome surgery and I was horrified to hear what had to be done. I pray this young man does not have to have such invasive procedures.
Thank you so much. The surgeon stated that the most painful part would be the healing of the skin graft area taken from the thigh area. Skin is taken from the arm to reform the tongue and taken from the leg to place on the arm.
This is gut wrenching Robin. Just no words. I have already placed this young man on my prayer list tucked in my Bible. Your visit must have been full of melancholy to watch someone so dear suffer so. These are the times I ask God why....
Thank you so much for your prayers. They are greatly appreciated. He is on track to have his feeding tube removed next week. We also visited the father of a friend who had just had his left arm including his shoulder amputated due to a recurrence of cancer. It was a hard day. Just like the weeping prophet Jeremiah in Lamentations 3, I have to remember that God's mercies are new every morning and great is His faithfulness. And just like Job tells his wife, "shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?" After I lost. my leg in a motor vehicle accident (hit by drunk driver), I learned to define my circumstances through God's goodness and grace and love, rather than defining God by my circumstance. God never changes. His character is immutable; therefore, He is always good, alright right, and always loving. He never leaves me and never forsakes me.
You are a beautiful Soul Robin. If only many could follow your example, myself included. I am not where you are yet and will keep asking God why, especially where children are involved as that brings me to my knees. Godspeed to you always and take good care. I am grateful for your post and learning how others are so advanced in their relationship with God.
God has been faithfully growing my faith and understanding for many years and I will not fully understand until I am in glory with the Lord. š The tragedies of this world are very difficult to understand, and they make me long for heaven. As Isaiah 55:8 says, "'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways, My ways,' declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so My ways are higher than yours, and My thoughts than your thoughts." I may not understand why God allows things to happen, but I have learned to trust Him.
My longtime friend in Arizona, a trauma/ER nurse said she's never seen so many cardiac issues in people in their 30s and 40s. All since the pandemic. Imagine that.....
I had a friend (RN) that just told me 8 nurses in our OB department have cancer. This is not the 12 nurse in Boston OB. I asked her if the nurses are thinking anything about the Covid shot and she said not that they are saying out loud to her.
Just saw a patient yesterday. Her 11 year old has sarcoma and 2 more local kids had Ewings sarcoma ( one has since passed) and one of my Kidās classmates has AML . Iāve never seen this much cancer in this age group In a small town that does nonstop fundraisers for local folks. Everyone is noticing .
šŖThat is so awful. Do you think these kids had the jabs or were exposed to parents who had the jabs? I don't know many people who had their children get the vax.
I know someone who was involved with testing AI in a health care setting, and they told me that AI outperformed doctors because when presented with new evidence, AI can change its mind, while doctors tend to believe they are infallible and couldn't possibly have been wrong.
Two years ago without the help of AI, I literally diagnosed my brotherās rare diabetic conditionādiabetic amyotrophyāin about 10 minutes using simple searches on the internet, after my brother had spent 8 days in the hospital getting every test the neurologist could think of. The specialist finally told my brother that he couldnāt figure out what was wrong with him and he should get a second opinion from another neurologist. On top of that, I had to explain to his primary doctor that he wasnāt getting enough gabapentin to make a dent in his pain. Again using just internet searches, I quickly learned that the therapeutic dose for diabetic amyotrophy was 1800 mg per day, not the 300 mg his doc had prescribed. If you have a decent brain in your head, AI is unnecessary, IMO, and probably downright dangerous.
Well, it seems like @JeffChilders was correct, that AI is to the medical establishment what the printing press was to the theological establishment. Both shed light on the self-interested corruption of those two massively powerful institutions, and in both cases, the cockroaches scattered when the light came on.
In a way, I think that the entire Covid experience has one very big silver lining, which is that people are now thinking for themselves and doing their own research. I had a heart attack last summer at age 63, which I suspect had some relationship to the two Covid shots that I regrettably got (but I canāt prove it), and while sitting in the hospital bed waiting to get my stents, and for quite a few days afterwards, I did some research on my own (because, after all, itās not like I was very free to go anywhere else or do anything very substantive). One thing that I found was that there is a gout medication called colchicine that apparently has a remarkable anti-inflammatory effect on the interior of oneās arteries, and also that arterial inflammation is what causes the buildup of plaque within the arteries (NOT cholesterol, as the pharmaceutical industry would like us to believe - blaming cholesterol for plaque is like blaming the presence of firemen on your block when your neighborās house is burning down - you are blaming part of the solution, rather than the underlying cause). I mentioned this to my cardiologist, who was not going to prescribe it for me, and he told me that his practice had started prescribing it for some patients about eight months prior to that time. He looked at my blood tests, and said that I was a candidate, and I have been taking it ever since. But had I not done that research and mentioned it to him, I wouldnāt have the benefit of that drug. Everyone needs to do their own research, and be their own advocate, because most doctors tend to be very rushed for time, and therefore highly dependent upon a standard protocol that may or may not be beneficial to you. There are roughly 8 billion people on this planet, which means that there are roughly 8 billion different physiologies, along with 8 billion different sets of environmental factors and health histories. Standard protocols are the lazy way out of medicine, in my opinion.
Well stated, Paul, I agree wholeheartedly! You rightly stated that there are 8 billion physiologies on Earth, and no oneās immune system or physiological processes are exactly the same as anybody elseās. So this idea that one-size-fits-all when it comes to doses for vaccines, chemotherapy drugs, hormone blockers for breast cancers, etcā¦ Thatās just a bunch of bunk, and I canāt believe that the majority of physicians donāt seem to be smart enough to realize that on their own. Or, perhaps they know it, but their hands are tied by insurance companies, medical associations and licensing boards. Or worse yet, they just donāt care.
When I read about doctors not being trusted, I can't help but comment that, the more educated practically worship the healthcare system.
Veterinarians for example. We ARE doctors. We learn basically the same things that physicians do....and YET, most of my colleagues run to the physician every time they get a sniffle....when they are likely perfectly capable of diagnosing their own ills.
I smashed my thumb a couple of months back. Hurt like hell....did I run to the ER? Nope, clicked an x-ray under a kitten named Gimp and discovered my fracture phalange.
When I get a respiratory issue, I sure as HELL don't run to the doctor, so I can catch even more.....I self medicate. Vets used to be big self medication proponents.....then something changed.
Now vets are all about experts and specialists. Most vets refer out things that we used to do regularly....they don't even trust their own education or experience anymore. It's ridiculous....if you want to know why veterinary care has exponentially increased in price....it's this new rush to emulate human medical systems. It's frightening.
I'm 61. I've been practicing for almost 30 years......our profession is making bad choices right now. I don't have the power to fix it....I am spitting in the wind. The liberal educators infiltrated vet schools as well. Sorry Fido, you will reap the dubious outcome.
Is it ridiculously expensive? You do it annually? Does the state accept the information for rabies, etc? I am asking because I am considering that avenue.
About $150 for the test. I have the vet give my chihuahua a full check up too. I get a letter from him stating she's healthy and no shots needed. All in all about $300 for total visit. Most importantly - no vaxxes or shots for my dog and the vet makes money too. No one has pushed back.
Rabies vaccine is still generally required - depends on state as to how often. There have been trials to try to cut back on how often the rabies vaccine is necessary but don't know the results. Problem is that rabies can be transferred to humans and is generally is fatal if not treated.
I request a titers test in lieu of a vaxx. My dog is 14 years old. I only go to vets that are okay with a full check up and a titers test. I mention my other dog passed away from complications from the rabies shot too. The letter from my vet attesting to sufficient antibody levels and my pet's good health has been sufficient for everyone.
I am going to try. I donāt like doing it just so that my Son and I canāt go away for a few days. I can not find anyone to come out to my place and stay
I worked for a veterinarian whilst I was in college. The last thing I did on my last day of work was to help the vet stitch up his teenage son, who had suffered a glancing blow from an axe whilst he was chopping wood. Why go to the ER when you have everything you need right at hand?
About 40 yrs ago, our small town vet saved my mom. Our cat had bitten her arm and it was terribly infected so he gave her an antibiotic and made her soak her arm, in the hottest (gold) Dial soap water she could handle, 3-4 times a day. Iāve used that same technique a couple times since.
My dad was a vet and the best doctor Iāve ever seen . And , he thought outside the box and really tried to get results and preserve quality of life . It seems we are often missing the big picture . Like my mom says , itās like healthcare is an octopus with no head. Each specialist is an arm and no one coordinates the care or sees the whole person
AUTHOR'S NOTE
It seems I've unintentionally offended some of my valued Catholic readers. To be clear: Iām not a theologian, nor do I pretend to be or even play one on YouTube-TV. Iām just a lawyer fumbling my way through history to make sense of present-day battles. My comparison between AI and the printing press was meant to be a cultural analogy rather than a doctrinal claim ā and certainly not as a commentary on the fullness of Catholic tradition or the complex role the Church played in preserving, transmitting, and interpreting Scripture.
I am grateful to my sincere Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ who were willing to engage today's post with substance and grace. Iron sharpens iron.
I'll request that, for today, those with strong feelings going the other way please refrain from commenting here, so as not to dilute the sincerity of my outreach.
I was raised Catholic. Around the age of 18 converted to Christianity. You have never offended me. I respect you and love this Substack. God Bless all of us. šš»
I too raised Catholic in a very small town congregation long ago when the Mass was done in Latin and I was the Altar Boy. I saw no perversions nor misgivings.
Just a variation of a hundreds of years dedication to remind us of teachings.
The accuracy of which is no doubt forever argued or protested.
It remains a well lived life on my chosen theater of family and friends.
God Bless America now more than ever. The Chaos and Hate has taken a bad turn.
My mom told me about this, the mass being said in Latin and the priest never turning around towards the congregants. I just remember as a young child having to wear a covering on my head and always dresses for the females when going to mass... Left all that behind long, long ago...
The priest didnāt have his back to the congregation, but was facing WITH them towards God to offer the sacrifice of the mass on behalf of the congregation. With a full and better explanation then I can offer itās actually a very beautiful gesture once explained better. Just wanted to clarify. š So many things were misunderstood during the Vatican 2 time and the meaning of things in the mass has been lostā¦
Regardless, I would find this SO impersonal, NOT understanding a word of the Latin mass, NOT seeing the priest's face at all.... NOT at all reflective of our very personal relationship with Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior
I can understand that completely. The first Latin mass I went to was so odd feeling. It felt like I was so out of place and removed from things. But I found as it went on and BECAUSE it was in Latin and there was no distraction of a priest staring at the congregation, the words became a song almost. I felt I could enter so much more into prayer, conversation, and communion with Jesus as there was prayer all around, but there was also my prayer within and my conversation with Jesus that I could have as the dance played around me. When you speak in another language it can be like that. I donāt know if that is everyoneās experience and I donāt go to a Latin mass regularly, but I can understand itās beauty. Itās meant to be between us and God and the priest is there to offer himself between us and God, but heās meant to disappear in a way?
Amen CM.....seems like an entire lifetime ago. Hahahaha
Espiritu santƩ Amen.
As far as Latin, our Catholic tradition teaches that Satan hates Latin and shrinks at the sound of it because it is the language of the church. Granted it was also the language of the Romans, but thatās how we understand itā¦
exactly.... your catholic tradition NOT the word of God What.so.ever....
the Jewish would say that Hebrew is the language God uses...to speak to the Prophets of old, Moses, etc.... way before Latin came along
Please respect the Catholic religion as I respect yours. Condemnation is the common thing that seems to come from Protestants/Christians here on this substack and it makes me wonder why they are not at peace with their own beliefs and feel the need to put down other belief systems. Are you not secure in them? I love my faith as Iām sure you love yours. Find peace in that and allow others to find their path to God as God leads them. You are not our savior, I only have one Savior in Jesus. Many blessings and peace to you brothers and sisters in Christ, I hope you find your peace and contentment.
And how exactly am I being disrespectful? Because I'm pointing out truth and you're offended?
You are correct in that I am NOT your savior, and for that matter anyone's savior. God forbid! When did I make that claim and WHY do you lay it at my feet??? I find your babbling about this offensive...
Well you'd have to wonder how accurate the system was to make such any translation doable. And then do justice to the Writers as Scripture.
The argument seems ripe any time the subject becomes a topic visa/versa
To be Catholic is to be Christian and you converted to one of the many Protestant Christian offerings.
I consider it reborn again non denominational.
Amen - I'm hearing Mark 16:15 in my head. Oh, and a little grace to Jeff, please for everyone else here looking to declare their "supreme" mission and doctrine. The Lord God is sovereign!
I appreciate the clarification.
2 Timothy 4:3. Christ established His visible Church to combat that human tendency of pride.
Disagree! I grew up Catholic and graduated from a Catholic school. But I left Catholicism when I was 18, as well. Then I wandered through corridors of church offerings until at the age of 31, 35k feet in the air, with my kids sleeping heads on my lap, HOLY SPIRIT settled my heart and soul in a relationship with the Living GOD, through JESUS CHRIST... (never introduced nor offered in all my Catholic years)
The Charismatic Movement brought Catholics to true Christianity!
Because with Popes, Cardinals, Bishops & Priests... it was hit or miss... a doctrinal crapshoot!
I am Catholic and definitely have relationship with the living God and Jesus. I receive His body and blood at every mass as He instructed in the Bible. āThis IS my body, this IS my bloodā Not a symbol of it, He did not intended it to be a symbol. And He never corrected those who questioned if He really meant it was really His body and blood.
There is nothing more intimate than receiving the Eucharist, His body and blood. Him. And there is nothing more I want then to grow closer to Him every day and scripture and my faith get me there. I read scripture every day and every mass is chock full of scripture as well. You donāt have to be Protestant to achieve a personal relationship with Christ. Many Catholics are very close with Christ personally.
You are certainly within your right to believe whatever you wish.
But, no, JESUS did not say in His Word, that His followers should "drink His blood" and "eat His body" at every Mass... because he never mentions anything called "Mass" and He never said that the elements were blood and flesh. They are simply symbols.
"This is my body, broken for you..." and "This is my blood... as often as you do this, do it in remembrance of me"
I was taught all the above about Transubstantiation and so much more Catholic teaching... and it took a decade+... and being Born Again to know Truth.
Iām sorry you donāt/didnāt find the beauty and truth in the Catholic faith. It really is there. God bless you in the journey.
You are certainly within your right to believe whatever you wish.
But, no, JESUS did not say in His Word, that His followers should "drink His blood" and "eat His body" at every Mass... because he never mentions anything called "Mass" and He never said that the elements were blood and flesh. They are simply symbols.
"This is my body, broken for you..." and "This is my blood... as often as you do this, do it in remembrance of me"
I was taught all the above about Transubstantiation and so much more Catholic teaching... and it took a decade+... and being Born Again to know Truth.
And what gives you the authority to interpret the Word of God and tell me what it means? How can I trust that itās not just your personal bias or that of your pastor coloring your interpretation? Are you saying God divinely inspired you as to what His word means?
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Me too!
If any Catholics out there take offense to your comparison but didn't take offense to a Marxist Pope, by definition an Atheist, "preserving, transmitting and interpreting Scripture" then I got nuthin'.
Me thinks truly spiritual and devout Catholics have had to toughen up plenty about what offends them regarding their faith after seeing an Atheist make a mockery of Scripture with innovative, creative interpretations of it to make it fit under Marxist dogma. 'Under' being the operative word. Under man's law, global governance. Not superior or even co-equal. But *under* man's law.
Nobody needs to apologize for offenses as slight as yours might be perceived as among the faithful. They have bigger problems to deal with, true offenses to the faith that Jorge Mario Bergoglio's legacy has left in the Church. Some serious house-cleaning is necessary before they should be caring about minor perceived slights.
And ditto the Church of England, Protestants. Who now have their first official Atheist atop it with the ascension of Charles. Between them that's well more than half of all Christianity being under attack by Atheists inside the two largest denominations.
Iām a weekly Sunday Mass goer and cannot agree with you more. You should look up Exsurge Domine USA.
Amen.
You beat me too it. Amen Amen.
Part of the plan to bring us down is to infiltrate religionā¦
I could not have said it better myself. Thanks!!!
You're not Chriatain, are you? You definitely don't know my faith. I would worry about your own salvation before telling others what they should do about their own.
I could be completely off, and had to go back and re-read FFox's response, but he never once mentioned anything about anyone's salvation or lack of it....????
Well, in fact, I've never considered myself a Chriatain. But I appreciate you introducing me to the term, "Chria (/Chreia)." Though it doesn't seem to have followers, as in "Chria-tains." But I can see how someone could consider themselves "Chriatains" since it has to do with characters and narratives, rhetoric, sagas of self and others. I suppose a genre can have followers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chreia
And, Lo, behold - Chria are also common in the New Testament, mainly in the Gospels!
So, thank you for introducing me to a term and apparently the very unique religious sect you belong to!!
Good thing, too - with Catholicism and Protestantism completely co-opted and now controlled by Satanic Atheists those who remain followers of those denominations of Christianity and obedient to the whims and caprices of demons atop them will end up following those Pied Pipers of Satan on the path to Hell those evil interlopers have set for the blindly obedient.
Wow, thatās a lot of hay made out of one typo. MayBellaās point stands.
It's called "snark." Very clever snark at that, woven into a narrative, a sort of Chria! Must be from a very stable genius!!
And if "Likes" are points for points then mine stands above hers. So take that!! Lol!!
If you say so.
Did you mean āgenusā?
The pope is human just like we are. We do NOT consider popes to be saints. We have had many bad popes and many good popes, just like our presidents. Iām not sure why itās always insisted they have to be saintly? You have to be dead first to be declared a saint anyways. They are all humans just like usā¦
...and your "insist they be saintly" line is you setting up and then arguing with your own straw man. Not my verbiage. Yours. Maybe you enjoy arguing with yourself?
What the AF are you even talking aboutā¦
I hear a fart...a foul passing of the wind...not my kind of change.
Yes. They are. Many have even been wicked. God gave us the gift of discernment to not blindly follow wicked Popes.
We donāt blindly follow popes. Just as we donāt blindly follow presidents. We are discerning adults that look to God for direction first. If you have not practiced the Catholic faith correctly you will continue to misunderstand this.
"practiced the Catholic faith correctly"
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Catholic, Inc. and anything affiliated and associated with Catholic, Inc. is NOT practicing the Catholic faith correctly. Every single Catholic Church and related charitable enterprise has a nonprofit article of incorporation. That makes it an official subsidiary of the United States of America in the US, and the corresponding structures in other nations. Catholic, Inc. obeys Man's laws, first. God's laws, second. No more glaring example than how they obeyed Man's pandemic laws. The Satanic Pope told his Churches to close, followers told to don Satanic BDSM masks on their faces, hiding them from God, social distance, pushed dangerous man-made poisons into the arms of the "faithful."
Obeying fallen man's laws before God's is NOT practicing the Catholic faith correctly. By my estimation about 95% of Catholics blindly followed their popes and did NOT look to God for direction first. No worse or better than the other faiths, not an indictment of Catholics. An indictment of Big Religion, Inc.
Nope. You I have no idea what youāre talking aboutā¦
Being offended is a result of guilt.
I avoid institutional and denominational religion so I may have a personal relationship with Jesus.
I removed my child from government schools so I could assure her proper education.
I avoid medical professionals as much as possible except in case of traumatic injury.
The list goes on, I guess you could say I am a Berean in all aspects of life.
No need to to explain yourself or apologize, Mr. Childers.
I am offended by a ton of Democrat politicians these days and I have absolutely no guilt in saying this.
āBeing offended is a result of guilt.ā
Iām sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement.
I agree that it is rediculous. People are just rude these days.
Absolutely ridiculous
You can have a personal relationship with Jesus within an āinstitutional and denominationalā religion. Itās possible.
Who is offended?
Iām not offended, but know the emphasis you place on accuracy and truth, and here you are mistaken. The original Gutenberg Bible was the Latin Vulgate, not an English version. Gutenbergās press was even admired by the future Pope Pius II for its legibility and accuracy. Gutenberg was a German Catholic. His Catholic Bible was printed more than 60 years before the Protestant Revolt. The Catholic Church wanted people to know and understand the Bibleāreadings from the Old and New Testaments and Gospel are part of every Mass! Problems arose later when inaccurate versions of the Bible were printed and heresies spread. Then, unfortunately, some members of the Catholic Church (not the Church herself) got overly zealous cracking down on heresy-spreaders, not unlike the modern day attacks on āCovid misinformation spreadersā.
And like the printing press, AI has great potential for good and harm. One must always use oneās brain to weigh the information presented and ask if it is true.
Thank you for your comment. I get very tired of Catholic bashing, everyone, especially lapsed Catholics, think they are an expert on the Church. If they were truly experts, they would never have left. Without the Church and the Monks who hand copied the Bible, where would we be? When my protestant friends all claim their own authority to interpret, why are there so many churches with doctrinal differences?
Me too. This substack is horrible sometimes. Zero respect for the Catholic faith and Jeff perpetuates it often.
Does it really matter if the first Bible was printed in Latin or English? Jeff's comparison still stands . . Eventually the Bible was mass-printed in English and in every other written language, and that changed everything
You are right it did change things. Those who study the actual mass production of the Bible understand the floodgates of bad translations that were inflicted upon unsuspecting people. Some of the protestant publishing houses are named after those men. It gets glossed over because people take juvenile "Jesus, me and the bible" approach to their faith, instead of understanding the real covenantal relationship and visible Church Jesus set up with Peter and the apostles, and exhibited in St. Paul's writings. Instead of following Christ's Church with one visible head, rebellion inflicted hundreds of millions of "little churches" with everyone being their own final determined of what is true. We saw what that resulted in back in Genesis. Pride comes in many forms. 2 Timothy 4:3.
It matters insofar as the premise of the comparison is wrong. My interpretation of what Jeff meant to impart can be summarized as, like the printing press gave people the ability to read and interpret the Bible themselves, without the domineering Catholic Church as gatekeeper of Scripture, AI gives people the ability to read and interpret their symptoms themselves, without elite doctors as gatekeepers (and so doctors must adapt and tend to the person instead of the symptoms if they are to remain relevant and employed). But when itās known that the first Bible printed was a Catholic Bible, and the Catholic Church was happy to use the printing press as a tool, belying the supposition that the Church was opposed to free thinking, that comparison falls apart. One might draw another, better comparison that, like the printing press made information widely available, putting literacy within reach of the poor as well as the rich, and bringing the worldās ideas onto pages, AI has the potential to put diagnoses within the grasp of the patient as well as the doctor, synthesizing the ideas of the worldās scientists into solutions to fight disease.
āGatekeepersā also serve their purpose. It is not hard to imagine AI coming to the conclusion that a personās case is hopeless and suicide is the best, most logical option. We need moral, compassionate gatekeepers to guard against this lieā¦just like we need Holy Spirit-inspired gatekeepers to safeguard Godās Truth.
It doesnāt stand if you under any what Sylvia wrote. The church WANTED the everyday people to have access to the Bible and encouraged it and encourages it to this day. It changes everything about what Jeff said, which is wholly inaccurate.
You win todayās Comments, Sylvia!
"Problems arose later when inaccurate versions of the Bible were printed and heresies spread. "
Which versions do you consider to be "accurate"??
Have you read the translations of the original writings that became the "Bible" by Biglino? Many disparage him as his translations do not fit their dogma/mythology. But he was once a translator for the vatican... so is not a dunce...
The Douay-Rheims version for one is absolutely accurate, if not quite as poetical as The King James Version.
'Absolutely accurate'... Not hardly.
Heavily influenced by the Catholic Church, which has never been known to not be manipulative and coercive... if not criminal.
Read Biglino's "The Naked Bible"... see what you think.
Ok being from Portland I missed any catholic criticism
This redneck from Bama did too. I would go back and re-read that section to understand Jeff's great offense but I simple don't care, it's Friday and I'm the Judge and Jury today. Innocent! PS have we heard back from Kansas on whether they burst into flames on their golf outing? Hope they played like DJT and not FJB. Everyone have a great weekend. SCOTUS on fire this afternoon. Jeff will have a great stack Saturday!!!
Alabama is a very special place to me. š„°
Catholic here and not offended. You stated facts from history. The Catholic church today is better for that history.
Thank you...well said. i was not offended either.
But I did recognize the dig at Catholics with one stating she "converted" from Catholicism to Christianity, in other words, Catholics aren't Christians. Not offended at that, just feel bad for her and her self-righteous attitude.
Let God deal with her. I always look at people who don't know that Catholics are Christians as someone who doesn't know the faith... and if they were Catholic who fell away, they are just like cafeteria Catholics. They are picking and choosing what to believe instead of what Jesus taught us.
Once baptized a Catholic, always a Catholic. š They just donāt realize it.
Also, she doesn't realize we think of them as fallen away Catholics and pray for them... how awesome are we ;-)
Facts from history? Hardly. More like fake news from the Protestants.
Thank you for the post. I donāt often comment but felt compelled. I am a physician and a Catholic. I am glad for the clarification.
I think you would agree that there are good physicians. I think you would agree that there are good Catholics, including priests and bishops.
Sadly, most of my physician colleagues took the vaccine and pushed the vaccine. They shunned ivermectin and chloroquine. In short, they drank the Kool-Aid. We all hope (at C and C) that they wake up.
I just started using AI to help write notes. We have the impossible task of seeing many patients quickly and having comprehensive plans, and communicating that to the patient in a way that they can understand. At the same time giving them true options. AI can listen to our conversation and generate a note. That is better than relying on my memory for the minutia of every bit of our conversation. It saves me an enormous amount of time.
Imagine practicing law in a way that you would have 15 minute appointments with between 15 and 40 clients in a day and then generate a legal contract or document for every one of those patients by the end of the day or the next day.
And on top of that, we write prescriptions. And we have to call insurance companies to fight for a CT scan. And write doctors notes for employers. And take extra calls from people who have questions.
Donāt get me wrong, I love what I do. Iām a general surgeon. Itās gonna be a long time before thereās a robot. That can do what I do.
I absolutely love reading your post every single day and have benefited immensely. I think you would agree that we donāt want to throw out the babies with the bathwater when it comes to healthcare. It is fraught with problems. And it isnāt only the physicians. Itās a whole system.
MAHA!!!
{{Hugs}} Those readers are not your friends. A friend/good acquaintance overlooks minor offenses and mistakes.
After reading the autobiography of Benvenuto Cellini written in the 1500ās itās apparent the Catholic Church has been arrogant and corrupt for many years. The Catholic Church has the highest rate of pedophilia/child molestation and cover up. I canāt ignore their flaws and hypocrisy.
The Heart of Friendship
Hereās to the heart of friendship, tried and true,
That laughs with us when joys our pathway strew;
And kneels with us when sorrow, like a pall,
Enshrouds our stricken souls; then smiles through all
The midnight gloom with more than human faith
Hereās to the love that seeks not self, and hath
No censure for our frailty, but doth woo,
By gentle arts, our spirits back into
The way of truth; then sheds upon our lives
A radiance that all things else survives.
-Anon
Jeff, your āhistory lessonsā are alway informative, well researched & always entertaining. And appreciated as history is being rewritten. Well done you!!
Those comments on the Bible are not historical, sorry.
Forgiveness is the fragrance of the flower, on the heel that has crushed it.
St. Francis of Assisi.
Such That it's a remarkable day to be tested to the reminder of faith and healing.
I loved the comparison, myself, and thought how ironic it was that the printed Bible sparked such a revolution, and was considered heretical, when the Bible was so important to my grandmother that she gave me my first when I was four years old. The printed Bible is a staple in Christian households.
Dear Mr Childers, you might have unwittingly opened Pandora's Box with this piece. I consider myself a spiritual person raised in Christian theology but not a "Christian" per se.
I recently watched an AI piece on the origins of religions and found it thought provoking. My eldest son a student of Christianity, watching with me found it offensive , said he doesn't watch AI stuff and stopped watching halfway through. Perhaps AI will do to "modern" religion what Gutenberg did to "THE CHURCH" in his era. It might even shake up the stodgy religious bureaucracies that seem too attached to power and money.
Lee Strobel's Book "The Case for the Real Jesus" is filled with everything the agnostic and atheist would not want you to read. Sceptics have been trying to permanently bury Jesus for over 2000 years and they just cannot do it.
Curious, what was the video/film/documentary? That would be interesting to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAvz2BWajE
Thank you.
I was just asking about you. How did the golf game go? Still kicking I see.
Golf game was fine, I won't be winning any tournaments. Weather was better than the previous week. It was 91 degrees, but there was a strong breeze and NO humidity, unlike the previous week. Thanks for asking.
Awesome!
I was offended on behalf of all Catholics, who have to repeatedly āsplain the Bible hoarding /burning claim, and are lambasted because people repeat what they have heard somewhere.
I invite you to read this to help shed some light on the matter, although it does not touch on all the points.
They also answer the phone (!) if you have questions,
And you can call into their online show M-F 3PM Pacific.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/did-the-church-chain-up-the-bible
Forgiven, and letās move on. Looking forward to tomorrowās recap.
I am a cradle catholic who is still active in the Catholic faith and I take zero offense to your historical analysis. Most mature Catholics don't hold the shortcomings of some individuals in the churches past as an indictment of our religion but rather a testament of human fallibility that permeates all organizations. The important thing is that the Catholic church can look back its history and learn from the mistakes of the past and move forward as a better religion in the future. Striving for continual improvement and humility are important aspects within Catholic teachings so we should be able to look at historical shortcomings with this in mind.
We werenāt insulted at all. Canāt imagine why our fellow Catholics were bothered
It is a fact that the Catholic Church murdered many people who were trying to get the Bible back to England where it could be translated and published for the masses. I read a book on their struggles to do that about 10 years ago. England was the only place that could do it because the Catholic king had been defeated in a war and it had a Protestant king.
I wish to respect Jeff Childersā call for Catholics to refrain from commenting. But you might want to look into why and how England became Protestant.
Henry VIII was far from righteous; he was totally self-serving and life didnāt go well for him.
And as for, āI read a bookā¦ā. You can find one to support anything and all things.
I am grateful to my sincere Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ who were willing to engage today's post with substance and grace. Iron sharpens iron.
I'll request that, for today, those with strong feelings going the other way please refrain from commenting here, so as not to dilute the sincerity of my outreach.
I don't belive Jeff is asking Catholics not to comment.
I belive he is asking readers to refrain from Catholic bashing as to not dilute his apology.
Youāre right and I stand corrected!
I had to read it a couple times
You are also very gracious! Itās people like you and WS that make this a nice place to be.
So gracious! I do enjoy seeing you every day here in The Comments. š
Thank you!
The book was a history of how the English Bible came to be. It took many years and many lives because the Catholic Church fought it. You don't have to accept it or like it. It won't change that, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, Joan of Ark or any of the rest of Catholic history.
Well, today Iāll settle for top five in comments! Have a blessed day everyone. Tonight I head in to work a long weekend of nights in a busy ICU. Pray for healing for all sick in hospitals now.
Ok, here goes. I am a Physician Associate, (formerly called Physician Assistant), with 50 years experience in the health field, first as a military medic then as a paramedic fireman before going to Duke School of Medicine in ā93. The imposition of the electronic health record in about 2000 and lack of tort reform to stop ambulance chasing lawyers has done as much or more than the scamdemic did to ruin the practice of medicine for patient and provider alike. Solution? Well, Direct Primary Clinics is a good start and RFK jr also thinks so.
By the way, an entertaining yet infuriating medical show on Netflix called the resident really exposes a lot of the corruption in medicine that comes from pure greed and unrestrained, arrogant egotism. Itās an exciting show, but as a physician, it makes me nauseous to realize whatās happened to the Hippocratic oath due to the first world medical profiteering.
You mean Hypocritic Oath. I hope you are one of the brave docs speaking out about all this and promoting meds like Ivermectin. It is time for good docs to stand up like Dr. Kory and McCullough and tell the AMA they are full of sh**.
The Hippocratic Oath is pretty much meaningless and is most definitely unenforceable. Itās like the oath that a President takes, or anyone else entering federal office, it is a statement of intentions, and nothing more. It harkins back to an era, long since passed, when people actually had honor and would do everything that they could to abide by an oath that they had taken. I would challenge anybody here to show me a case in which a doctor was fined, suspended, or had his or her license revoked because they violated the Oath - you wonāt find it, you will only find cases where specific laws or portions of the code of medical ethics, were some other hard and fast rule was broken.
Fewer than 15% take the Hippocratic Oath today. Bemoaning that AI doesn't take it is hugely hypocritical.
The Hippocratic Oath is passƩ nowadays. It's considered a relic of past times. But they let us think they all do. To pacify us, keep us trusting them (something we have to be aware AI is also susceptible to.) A useful lie of omission. Happy that we make the assumption most take it.
Culture of death: the assault on medical ethics in America
Wesley A Smith, 2000
https://archive.org/details/cultureofdeath00wesl
Smith's Follow up book:
Culture of Death, The Age of "Do Harm" Medicine
Discovery Institute, 2016
https://www.discovery.org/b/culture-of-death/
"Smith warns that future troubles could be tied to the fact that only 14% of doctors today report having taken the Hippocratic oath to ādo no harm.ā Smith even recounts episodes of doctors recommending that the old or sick be denied basic treatments which might potentially save life. This enlightening book unmasks unexpected occurrences in the present practice of medicine, and shines light into a future that many of us might not like."
What is being said it that broadly speaking, the American people are no longer en mass a more people. And this is the reason why the early founder/framer fathers stated that a republic is a form of government fit for a moral people. Such in my opinion were right and Covid Terrorism is the proof. During Covid Terrorism, the great mass of doctors did not honor anything, not their oath nor themselves, nor the God we are meant to glorify through are actions.
In a way, the above paragraph is buttressed by Solzhenitsyn's 1979 Harvard commencement speech in which he determined that the crises in the West was not a political crises. Instead he stated the World Split Apart is a Spiritual Crises. To the Reformed Faith Christian, a spiritual crises is also a moral crises as defined by the opus of Christian La.
True, the Oath is not enforceable, though it should be.
Especially as long as doctors can lose their licenses for prescribing drugs they believe are best for their patients... like Ivermectin during Covid... and many DID lose their licenses...
I disagree about the oath comment... I took an oath when I jioned the Navy and Intook it seriously and did not break it. I am very proud of my service. I have worked with many honorable men and women... all of them will tell you that their oath never expires. My guy did 40 years and is now doing a dangerous job because of that oath. Not all people who take an oath are greedy, selfish human beings.
exactly right
Yes, their unimpeachably sacred oaths. Like the tired lines our govt superiors dump on us as proof of their authority. Obamaās favorite was, āLet me be perfectly clear,ā usually followed by a perfectly incomprehensible lie. Jeff cited Governor Wes Moore trotting out a āMake no mistake.ā That one reminds me of John Wayneās response (Big Jake, maybe?) to cattle rustlers he held at gunpoint (or a similar situation). Rustlers: āLetās not be hasty, sir. There must be some kind of mistake.ā John Wayne: āYou made it.ā
Emerson nailed the issue in his remark about a virtue signaler seated at a silver-serviced dinner table: "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."
Speaking of residents, I had the son of a patient on my assignment explain to me that the current model of physician training is so grueling because it was established by a cocaine addict and, while there are laws restricting the number of hours resident physicians are allowed to work, they are circumvented by false documentation. Physicians in training are therefore reduced to cheap labor and those who refuse to play the game quickly find themselves trying to find a residency program that doesnāt exist.
My mind is always going to parallel economics to find the solution. Much as the Trump Administration is gutting the deep state swamp, I think state regulatory agencies can do something to accredit independent hospitals (you know, the way they used to be before they had Ascension or HCA or Kaiser Permanente branding) with training programs that are more realistic. With enough state government innovation, we can sidestep the entire complex (academic, pharmaceutical, hospital, government, and tech) and suddenly find ourselves with happy, healthy, and plentiful healthcare workers and providers. Weāll also be on our way towards a healthier population.
From your lips to godās ears. Hyperlocal is the answer to a lot of our self-created problems in medicine, health care, education, and media. The distrust in our institutions is at the tipping point, if not already past it. As they implode, the pieces will expunge all but the necessary, and the remaining parts will reorganize themselves into a more effective system.
I am on the hyperlocal bandwagon too. Would love to see more miniature schools where a few families close to each other hire a teacher for their kids. I think thereās so many benefits to a small group and also to assorted ages helping each other. My kids are going to be so blessed with the educational options they have with their kids (oldest grandchild is 1 with another on the way). Our only options were public, private or homeschooling.
We raised 5 kids starting in 1975 and ending in 1989. The last one, born in '89 was home schooled the rest were PS. We home schooled her ourselves with the help of HSLDA. This was the in the dinosaur days. This child went on to have a successful career as a nurse an in addition has a very successful business doing medical coding.. And she never wore overalls and plaid shirts. Also, she didn't miss the all the crap that comes along with the vaunted "socialization" of public school. ps my other 4 kids are doing well also. Just wanted to brag about my home schooled kid.
Happy to hear all your posse turned out well Mike. I don't know how parents today unwind all the social garbage forced on kids today from government schools. My heart goes out especially to single parents, their job is twice as difficult.
I meant to say Direct Primary Care Clinics-sorry:)
So Patrick, please explain WHY DPCC's are an improvement. Not immediately obvious to many, I would guess.
The short answer to a very complex problem is that a DPC doesnāt depend on coding in an EHR to maximize a providerās reimbursement since insurance isnāt used and therefore, without an insurance company to sue, opportunistic lawyers are less likely to sue which drives up the costs. There is a lot more to the story but time and space constrains me from going deeper.
I would imagine they aren't also as protocol driven. My primary is with Mayo and he just inputs answers to questions from an EHR/EMR and follows the protocol. Which I'm sure is heavily influenced by pharma. He's nice enough though.
Do concierge doctors have the same freedoms?
Seems to be getting very popular... as the quality of the PCP physicians craters behind Big Pharma restrictions and protocols... over-booking and insurance meddling...
Unfortunately those on Medicare canāt participate because we would have to pay twice. But I think itās a liberating idea.
You can participate but yes, you pay your Medicare premium plus your DPC premium but still come out ahead in many instances if youāre not using Medicare for the visit.
Very worth it!
I have my first DPC appointment set up in another week or so. The Dr is a D.O. so hopefully he'll have the desire to look for cause vs symptoms only. I'm on Medicare so I did need to sign up for a monthly subscription. They allow cancellation at anytime.
And the provider is autonomous. That, too. Along with M.ās input, we have three really short, obvious answers. š
The patient is the payer.
I actually like the electronic medical records.
When I submitted my disability claim to the VA, all my military medical records were hand written. Pity the poor VA person who had to read all that paperwork. Even I had trouble...would look at a entry and wonder what I even went to military sickcall for..
Kathleen, I DESPISE EMRs! As a med mal paralegal of 40 years, I got very good @ reading even the most illegible chicken scratch. EMRs turn a chart into 1000s of pages w/ repetitive information AND most screens are ādefaultsā, meaning that if the person making entries doesnāt physically type in correct info, it stays on the default & thus becomes completely useless & inaccurate.
In addition, it was NObummer who ushered in EMR & anything that MFāer did was not for the good of the country & likely mainly for the sake of consolidating & exploiting our health info (soon to add banking, purchases, social credit)
Cindi I AGREE! It to mention nurses and staff look at the computer and not the patient. Spend hours clicking so the CYA chart. Ugh same thing āI went into nursing to help peopleā now you chart and do not forget to hit SAVE š
ā¬ļø THIS. Do you want me to get your meds out on time, get your wounds dressed, get you to the bathroom, tell your family how to get to the cafĆØ, and move your Kleenex box an inch to the right (we do run into those kinds of expectations) when you expect me to or do you want me to play on the computer? Is a nurse too overwhelmed to do double the work (first to do the job and then to take herself out of multiple situations to document it promptly, accurately, coherently, all the perfect things) suddenly guilty of perjury or negligence when she attests to her actions in court?
I got passed over for a charge nurse position because my ātime managementā was not that of another candidate. Sorry if I stay a little late because I spend my shift actually trying to help my patients.
My primary care doctor never looks at me during my visits but only her laptop. My surgeon uses an app that transcribes our conversation so that she can actually look at and interact with the patient.
Iāve read so many charts with that voice transcript. Really not a fan of that but itās improved. Doctors are still responsible to read and sign their voice notes. Itās a better option than the face glued to the EMR
I agree. That EMRs are much more a control system embedded in a state sponsored system of health control. It's control of everything ... food, water, movements, cameras everywhere, smart phone data monitoring, car tracking ... and much, much more.
I believe that bureaucratized health records dehumanize people. And I think this every time I have to fill out 'their' stupid forms in the doctor's office. The whole system is a conveyor belt delivery operation
Such a system invariable ends up in lockdowns, stupid arrows on the floor, masking, wrecked lives ... and a general prison-like atmosphere. Compared to the freedom in the 1950's, I now feel that the United States has become one giant concentration camp run by Simon Says.
US has become one giant concentrarion camp run by Simon says... what a prefect way to explain it. it is exactly how it has felt the last 5 years.
Too much copy & pasteing that wasnāt reality. I had to notify too many Mds that a pt no longer had a trach or g tube š¤ sad.
Are the patients able to view their electronic medical records?
At my providers in MT Iāve been given access to the hospital system and can access my records online. I thought that was the standard now.
Only if they request a copy from medical records. They donāt get to look at it without doing that. And then the nightmares begin. š„“ since I am no longer working in that position. I cannot say if they were ever able to get their medical records corrected.š„¹ and if someone did not notify the doctor, it wasnāt fixed š¢
With the VA, I can log onto their website and see the medical record after every visit. Also can check my labs and imaging.
If I send my PCP a secure message, that also shows up in my electronic medical record. Kinda of found that out my accident when I went to look for something else. Great idea because then I have proof I identified a problem/issue/medical condition. No one can say I didn't tell them.
Oh, it looks great for the patient. But who retains legal ownership of your data? In the case of at least one EMR system youāve probably heard of, itās not you, itās not your providers, itās the EMR vendor.
Yet, most people carry a smartphone with them at all times.
And they have GPS in their cars and the cars are sending data back to manufacturer and then it is sold to the highest bidder.
Disclaimer: I do not own a smartphone or have GPS in my vehicle.
We choose whether or not to carry a smartphone. We choose whether our not to drive vehicles that hand over all of our driving data with none of the context (disclaimer: I choose to own and operate vehicles too old to do this).
Most cannot afford to self-pay for their healthcare, so they really have no control over whom they can see, and of those providers, many rarely have control over which EMR theyāre using. Itās also not a question at top of mind when weāre suddenly in need of things like cancer or emergency care.
So itās not really a level comparison.
Also need to remove the insurance company and pharmaceutical companies from between the patients and their care givers. How would these clinics enable patient care ro be directed by health care providers and not institutions?
Oh, yes! My gyno said Obamacare and the rules of electronic records turned him into a data entry clerk. Another Dr lamented that he had to hire another RN just to handle all the calls to insurance companies. I'm old enough to remember when nurses and doctors looked at you and actually examined you rather than pecking away at a screen the whole visit. It infuriates me.
I like to think that I wouldnāt turn to a much older profession before I take *that* nursing job.
Is that what weāre calling you now? āPhysicianās Associateā? Why must we rename our midlevels? Iām honestly asking.
I was thinking about āAPRNā school (again, not sure what was wrong with ARNP) but Iām also so burned out, I also just want to be done with the whole blasted thing.
We need more docs like Patch Adams and a Gesundheit Institute.
When did they change it to Physician Associate? My future DIL is a PA. I gave her a gift that said Physician Assistant... and she didn't say anything.
2021. Due to pressure from the AMA, many are still hesitant to use the new title which the founder of the profession in 1965, Eugene Stead, MD of Duke, felt as early as 1970 that Physician Associate was a more appropriate title for this type of medical practitioner after watching his creation in action for a few years.
I like being early so that I can read comments. 700+ is a lot to try to read.
I usually read through the comments later in the day, OR the next day while waiting for Jeff to drop C&C! It is amazing what I learn from this audience! I like the comments almost as much as Jeffās post.
This community is so great, we all need to buy up some land somewhere and create a new city called āChildersvilleā š¤£ A gal can dream ā¦.
Or book a cruise ship for just C & C readers? I would love to meet all you fabulous folks in person.
I would do that in a heartbeat. I was lucky to have recently connected in person with another member in my area and it was wonderful. Everything we hoped for. God is good.
Or all meet up at the Polyface Farm Brownstone conference in September. Big names like Dr. Kory will be there!!
Not a cruise ship. āSomeoneā would drop norovirus into the shipā¦
There is that. I honestly won't go in a cruise ship since most made people take the covid poison shot
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Maybe rent a condo on the beach? Or another venue where we could meet but doesn't cause seasickness?
Absolutely fantastic to see C&C focusing on the big, big ,big issue of health ! I wonder how many people feel like i do...... my biggest fear is being brought to a pharma prison , laughingly called a "care giving facility" .... or hospital, for short.
Jeff's article today spells it out so well : the uncaring, drug peddling, mandated protocols , and outrageous pricing that has all but captured the helpless people who need some help. I can not say all this without also putting some blame on the blind followers who worship doctors and deny that anyone else without some paper on the wall can know a better way . Trying to pry those double fake cheese burger 4 pounders and 40 ounce cokes away from the masses ( and i mean Massive Masses) .... will take a herculean effort.
But ....... we gotta start somewhere. A very smart entrepeneur can , i predict, make a fortune by establishing an A.I Chat ND system that will focus on natural solutions to the myriad of diseases and smaller ailments that are now a plague . I spend hours going over the Earth Clinic website , having learned a lot and cured many issues ( ACV and BS for stomach problems for example. Drs all wanted me to take
PPI's...... terrible stuff and the opposite of what can help FIX the problem) .
Lots more personal anecdotes.... but you get my point. And btw, Jeff , next time some sinus issue starts ... put a few drops of 3% peroxide into your ears . This will prevent infection. Chat ND ! If i had about 30 million I'd start it myself . haha
Jeff's focusing on the health issue is REALLY helpful . Keep going !
Yes, love Earth Clinic!
Earth Clinic? I'll check that out.
Earth Clinic is awesome. Although I cannot get my ear issue resolved yet. ER had me put in prednisone. Awful side effects.Stoped after 4 days. Any suggestions. Some ain and ear fullness, pressure. They said ear infection. I may have to try IVERMECTIN like Jeff did. Than
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/10-easy-remedies-for-ear-infections.html
I read the comments from people ......sometimes many times to get a "feeling" what I want to try .
Trying the cayenne and praying Thank you kindly.
I thought BS was a bad thing!
And also, peroxide in a nebulizer is great too.
Youāre so right. Lots of great comments by the C&C army!
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Agreed. I have learned a lot from my compatriots
Seriously the best comment section on substack, hands down.
Agree, the comments section here is awesome!
There are some great threads that show up!
Yepper! It's a special place and you are correct.
Later Jay
I had a couple of early days this week. Trying to get stuff done to beat the intense heat in SW PA.
By the time I got home, reading those 700+ comments was tough.
If only there was some way to search in Substack, including comments across, at least a single author. Across all authors would be heavenly!
I have had that thought as well. I also wish it wouldn't jump around while I am trying to post something. Then I have to search for my post.
ctrl+F?
It is tough. Some days tougher than other
I just canāt do it if itās more than 100! If Iām able to read the āstack & hit the comments right after, Iām good. But not getting the chance until an hour (or more) later itās a lost cause
It is more than 800 now! Yikes.
Wow
Stay safe and healthy Carol. Thank you for taking care of the sick and helping them to get better and go home. And yes, prayers aplenty for all of them in hospital.
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Iām praying for their staff, too.
I have answered your prayers for healing, but you're not listening:
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I am 63 years old, rarely need any medication, but if I had to have just one medication on hand for any emergency it would be ivermectin (and I do).
As soon as I feel something coming on, I pop an IVM, take 50mg of zinc (D+K in winter), rinse about a bizzillion times a day with listerine, and flush sinuses with a hydrogen peroxide/iodine/saline solution. That along with a big pot of homemade chicken soup and a kettle of elderberry tea seems to do the trick. Havenāt been sick in ages.
I started doing exactly the same 4 1/2 years ago and same: I havenāt had a cold/flu since then. I also stopped getting the annual flu shot as well. I bought a nasal spray with iodine on Amazon called Nasomin and I use it before boarding planes and public transit as a preventative. Itās great for travel.
XClear works good as a nasal spray too.
XClear is great. I use it several times a week. I've always had problems with nosebleeds in the winter when the air gets really dry. XClear helps keep my nasal passages lubricated and less delicate.
Neti-pots might do similar, but far less $$$.
I use the one by Neil-Med...
But I use XClear too, for congestion.
suggest you consider a humidifier in your home for winter. Keep ours above 35% humidity.
Older homes are pretty leaky, cost more to heat. The more your furnace runs, the more "fresh" but DRY air it brings into your home which your furnace must then HEAT up to Room temp(expensive). Your air could be desert-dry causing the nosebleeds which, if air was brought up to reasonable humidity first, you would not suffer nosebleeds.
Not a good idea to be taking any med(MY opinion) "forever".
And CofixRX, which is what Dr. McCullough recommends if youāre not making your own povidone iodine spray.
Looks like that product has carrageenan in it, along with polysorbate. I donāt think either of those are good for us.
Xclear is great... but I am not sure it kills viruses or bacteria.
Budesonide is worth a look... I use a diluted mix of distilled water and H2O2... or colloidal silver as nasal spray after any contact with people...
I tried Iodine but for some reason, even heavily diluted, it was too strong. Maybe nascent iodine would work... not sure...
THank you for sharing.
On X, I get people who swear by masking anecdotally that since they masked since 2020, they have never gotten a cold/flu and my response is that there are many out there who don't mask who can say the same thing.
Wonder if it's because those who are masking constantly are usually afraid to go around other people in the first place? :(
Or just confirmation bias, which seems more likely. My aunt and her family were "exposed" to someone who was sick and "masked up" to visit my mom before she left the state. They were constantly pulling the masks down to eat, yell, talk, breathe, and didn't have them over their noses when they did "wear" them. The theater was crazy - and even moreso that they just didn't realize what they were doing the whole time.
That could always be a factor. But we know from studies where people uninfected were put in rooms and exposed for long periods of time to infected people, that sometimes infections don't transmit. Similarly, there was a story early on in 2020 that only 16% of partners living in the same house with someone infected with COVID-19 got it themselves.
The questions about transmission are many. But we know exposure does not mean infection.
But there are many things to think about.
Some people that "tested positive" never actually manifest any symptoms. Some would say it is "asymptomatic spread," but why couldn't the test be false to begin with?
And remember the movie Dumbo where they large eared elephant could fly due to a feather...burying the lead "large ears with the ability to flap like wings." In this case, what if...i know this might shock people...your immune system actually worked.
Covid 19 and a legitimate infection are a contradiction in terms.
Your immune system when supported by all the good things God created in nature for that purpose is the very best protection, the God- Standard as it were. "vaccines" and "medicines" seem to be engineered to create chronic problems.
You might tell them to check out the study from the University of Florida on the number of germs theyāre getting from those masks - not good.
Yes, and they could have worn tight under panties and it would have had the same effect!
Just me... but I prefer tight under panties to masks...
But only on women and only if less than 250lbs and under 80.
It really ties the Covid ensemble together. The problem is with tight underpants there will no doubt be some micturation occuring.
I found this article relatable to mask as they both talk about restricting air flow. As there is no studies on the effects of long term masking, this article makes you think twice about doing it even for the short term.
https://sleepholic.com/sleeping-with-blanket-over-head/
There are studies if you look for them, especially for Mask Induced Exhaustion Syndrome, or MIES. Kids have been forever hurt, traumatized for being forced to "mask up" for hours at a time. I'm not sure we will ever be able to fully understand the magnitude of the crime. A fucking crime against humanity has occurred and there has to be accountability.
In other news, one of the constellation of symptoms of Long Covid are neurological ones...that also have another source being "lack of oxygen." or hypoxia.
Thanks for the product recommendation! I tried mixing up my own solution, but it would be great to have a pre-prepared one on hand.
Agree, I am making note of this too!
Same here, no flu jabs. I use snoot spray or simple mix 50/50 dilution of iodine and saline and use a qtip to swab my nasal mucous membranes!
Lugol's 2%??
Thank you for this referral! Iāve had blocked dry nasal passages recently and I used to use Fluticasone spray to help sleep at night, but noticed they have chemicals in it I am trying to avoid, like Polysorbate 80 and dextrose. So Iām glad to have something else to try.
Xlear spray alternated with sovereign silver nasal spray is the best combo
I use Xclear saline packets in my netti pot. I didnāt know they created a spray. And Iāve heard about sovereign silver too but never tried it. Iāll look it up today š
Guifenesen. On Amazon. Keeps the mucus thin. I have to take it daily,otherwise I get ear infections every three months. Organic.
Yes! I take this every night.
Xlear spray morning and evening for me! Helps with any congestion. Also very helpful are the Xlear packets available to put into netipots. "Xylitol mainly works by interfering with the bacteria and making it unable to stick to the body tissues. It has a unique effect of reducing the bacteriaās ability to produce biofilm thereby making the bacteria more susceptible to antibiotic." https://drugsdetails.com/xylitol-nasal-spray-use-directions-benefits-rinse/
I recently read about a homemade mouth rinse with Xylitol that is better for teeth health too. Lost the link to that recipe. Ugh
I'm a xylitol junkie. I always have a glass of xylitol water on the counter and take a swig after I eat or drink anything during the day to prevent cavities. About 1/2 to 1 teaspoon per cup. Careful starting out as xylitol will jack up your stomach but I'm used to it so no problem. Also keep away from dogs as it is toxic to them.
Horse paste has polysorbate 80 in them
Thanks for the tip on the nasal spray!
I am a retired chiropractor (30 years) & would like to share a few natural remedies Including Ivermectin (which I take prophylactically):
Herb Pharm liquid Chaparral (Amazon) - use for any Herpes virus including shingles, insect bites - put 1-2 drop on finger & apply - it will sting for a couple seconds
You're killing your biofilm in your mouth when you rinse with Listerine. Biofilm is healthy and good for your immunity.
Yes warm salt water might be better
With a drop or two of Neem oil.
Baking soda is good too... but many many millions have been using Listerine and similar daily (most mouthwashes have either alcohol or some antibacterial) for many many years and no major issues... at least that I am aware of...
I know that some lose their sense of taste and smell... but rarely?
Yes, Iāve read mouthwash can negatively affect gut biome.
Correct. Search it out both in this context and its effects on nitric oxide, a key to maintaining healthy blood pressure and more.
I started on the equine version of ivermectin in the winter of 2021. I have taken it on and off for 4 years now. There is no reason not to make it an over the counter drug. Of course the price would then sky rocket.
I don't think so. Ivermectin's human version price is low and availability is huge around the world. The price SHOULD go down, if anything.
How often and what dosage?
I've been taking human Ivermectin, usually 24mg, 2X/month... I also take fenbendazole 222mg 3 days straight per month...
Both as preventives... Monolaurin is interesting too... not sure the recommended protocols...
I take a large pea sized dose, now about once every two weeks. During the bad seasons here, October through May, 2 times a week, or if a bad outbreak is happening, every other day. So far, so good.
Sounds similar to what I take in human form monthly... I have not increased it unless I feel a bug coming on...
I have nothing against the equine form... but I get mine from India and it is VERY inexpensive... maybe even less than the horse paste per dose.
My wife and I contracted Covid in Dec 2020, before it got "easy". She got it first. We had to fight the system to get IVM and ended up driving 70 miles to a concierge doc while sick to get a prescription. On starting IVM my symptom progression, which had been mirroring hers and lagging by a couple of days, immediately stopped. I experienced severe fatigue for 2-3 days and not much else. She was further along but also improved immediately. I know a personally few other couples who followed the same pattern.
I refused to get vaxxed (under threat of firing) and in early 2022 after getting some type of cold/flu started pre-dosing with IVM every time I started feeling any respiratory illness come on. Prior to doing this I would usually get a lingering sinus/respiratory illness in each fall and sometimes a sinus issue in the spring from pollen.
After starting to pre-treat with IVM I went 3.5 years without any significant respiratory illness until just last month.
I also use NAC as part of my regimen. Do you use that?
I have not, but we did give it to our pooch when she had cancer. Sadly, she was too far advanced and we lost her in December :(.
Losing a beloved companion is such an agonal part of being a pet parent. They are indeed Earth Angels on four paws that are also our teachers. They truly demonstrate unconditional love. You were blessed to have shared the years she was with you. She earned her Angel Wings and waits for you someday further on.
Me too! The medical community would have us all get sick first and then throw expensive treatments with side effects at us rather than let us all know that we can easily stave off many sicknesses.
Exactly. They can only sell a cure to someone once.
Nard said : āā¦ rinse about a bizzillion times a day with listerine ā¦ā
Just a word on LISTERINE. Iāve been plagued with tartar and 3 times a year going to the dental hygienist to remove it. I used Scope for years and it didnāt stop the bacteria that causes plaque and tartar to form, then I tried every other dental rinse out there to no avail.
At long last I resorted to good old Listerine which I had avoided because it burns my mouth and is not the best flavor around. And guess what?! It stopped the formation of plaque and tartar on my teeth. Stopped it dead in its tracks. No more dental hygienist visits. I use a dental oral mirror to check every part of my teeth and no tartar has formed.
( Note: I used Listerine after every meal or snack after using dental floss and tooth brushing. I do not allow any food particles to stay on my teeth for the bacteria to feed upon, and before ābedtimeā I do a quick rinse with hydrogen peroxide with a follow up of Listerine.)
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https://www.drkeeler.com/the-surprising-way-to-get-rid-of-that-upper-respiratory-illness/ :)
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By Povidine Iodine(10% solution I believe) and dilute it 10 to 1 with pure water, distilled or RO water. But beware, the Povidine bottle will have (on the label) an expiration date and when that comes around it goes in the trash. Circle it and be aware. It will have NO effect after that!
Basically they use baking soda and salt.
But the links below are interesting to jazz it up some.
re: "The photo of the horse and the four white robed "credentialed" and yet puzzled "experts".
My caption, "Horse teaches the medical/science* "experts" that Ivermectin is a life saving medication for both horses and humans - proven by billions of pills administered to both with proven efficacy." Horse turns, then takes a massive dump at their feet and trots off.
re: "Who squandered patient trust in doctors during the pandemic, by proving the Hippocratic āOathā is, at best, a hypocritical suggestion? Who created the environment where patients are more likely to trust their chatbots than their internists?
Doctors, thatās who."
We talk about accountability and reckoning a lot. The reprobates in the corrupt "medical community" who did the pLandemic to us - MURDERING millions, must pay a high price for what they did and if AI works to put a lot of them in new jobs, like perhaps "sanitation engineers" - then I say GOOD!
We all now know it by the Hypocritic Oath.
I like your version better šš
Massive dump ON their feet, please.
V3, I'm good with ON their feet! :-)
Horse: "An apple a day . . ."
Or, Horse: "An apple-flavored hit of horse paste a day . . ."
Absolutely love this!
Mrs. "the Knife"
Iām 82, no meds, and use Ivermectin. Never had the C disease, any version.
I would argue that many who claim they had Covid, tested or untested, did not have Covid. As in, there was no novel deadly virus to begin with.
Listen, as someone who rarely takes any medication, I got the Big C Covid July 2020. I was very sick. I was in bed for two weeks, there were days I couldnāt even remember if I ate anything. I had it coming out both ends, which is also a symptom of Covid. And I coughed for seven weeks. So when someone says itās just a cold right, it kind of makes me mad because they engineered this thing to kill us. And it had a demonic component. I can tell you that about day five you feel like you are going to die. Itās almost like a fear comes over you. I believe that whole thing was created in a lab again to kill us. And so in the beginning, it was not a common cold for everyone. My husband got it after me, was very sick for only 2 days. That was it. Go figure.
Thank you, Melissa. My husband was VERY sick when the whole thing first started, and I had a much milder version. I also get frustrated with those who act like itās no big deal and the same for everybody! Ultimately, Godās providence and HE is the healer.
Which is WHY doctors should have been allowed to establish a protocol for COVID. Instead, they were discouraged from recommending what worked (ivermectin and hydroxycholoriquine, among other things) and instead sent patients home with the admonition, "Call me when it's bad enough for you to go to the hospital." To me, that was like saying, "Call me when your wound become gangrenous." WORTHLESS PHYSICIANS who did that.
It's not a question of "no big deal" but context. To someone with rheumatoid arthritis, many minor infections can be a big deal to them. Should all be mandated to accommodate the few? We shut down whole countries, businesses, etc, to accommodate the few "vulnerable" and in so doing, we maximized fear and panic narratives surrounding them and allowed it to "creep" into many our awareness and it has made a substantial inroads at revising the social contract concerning illness, how we handle it, and who the onus is on concerning risk assessment.
Yes, some pushback to this is to marginalize those who have difficulties. To someone suffering from an illness, it is difficult. But should we upend society for such a thing? The government would say "yes."
I also bought the device that measures your oxygen levels. Mine were always above 96 so I didnāt worry
I got SOMETHING in Feb of 2020, unlike anything Iād ever had beforeā¦literally thought I was going to die. I woke up in the middle of the night thinking, āso this is how it ends.ā I was a healthy 53 year old woman in decent physical shape. Iāve been sick before, but nothing like that. I assume it was the first variant of Covid. A lingering cough for weeks after recovery, and then fine after that. Latter variants were mild and more cold-like for most. But that Delta was no joke.
I've had a few of those in my lifetime. It's called the flu. I had it also coming out of my nose. It is just a cold/flu. I say "just" not out of hand, and not with any sense of discarding it, but it needs to be put in the proper context. What happened to you, all five days of death, and the persistent cough afterwards, it is a common symptom of a cold/flu.
And while it is going on, it feels like s. And the older you get, the wiser you get (hopefully), even as it may feel far worse than it ever did before. But while those are valid experiences and feelings, a novel deadly virus they do not make.
As far as what makes us mad, it will happen. I used to get mad quite a bit when people called me all sorts of names on X. I usually lean into it now. If I harass you and call you names, that would indicate an intention to "make you mad." But in the end, you get to decide how you feel.
My intention is not to make you angry, but if I was sold on a fake pandemic, I would be livid, my anger might be towards the messenger, but ultimately it would be at those responsible for locking down countries, ruining economies, and convincing people to take experimental injections and wear bacteria factories on their face for a cold/flu.
If the government lied to you about something, why not other things? If they lied about the "origin" of the virus, could they lie about the virus being real at all?
My husband was coughing for months. Not Covid. I think its radiation. He also works next to a police station and is an auto tech. Lots of chemicals and diagnostic tools.
There was definitely a lot of dishonesty around Covid, but it exists. We got it in 2021, I took my kids to our homeschool co-op not realizing one of them was getting sick. That night he got a very high fever. The next morning it was gone but he had a sniffle, so I tested him. He came back positive. No one else did yet. I let the co-op know. It was like a bomb going off that spread outwards from his class and teachers to their siblings and so on, each person getting it from the last in an obvious way. It was mild for my son, and then each of my other kids got it in turn with the same symptoms. After a couple days I tested positive with symptoms so slight they were basically non existent. Husband tested positive with slightly worse symptoms. After a few days my tests were negative and the kids as well. Some people at our co-op got it somewhat bad (feeling flu like for a couple weeks) and others mild like us. So because of the symptoms plus the spread plus the tests lining up as positive and negative as it came and went with so many people, I know it exists. Perhaps itās similar with flu but it did seem odd in that some people got it so bad and even died, and others barely felt it. It also seems like it was worse for people early on.
Sickness exists, but is it Covid?
The only difference between pre 2020 and now is the one phrase: "so I tested him, he came back positive." The false PCR test was the difference. Before 2020, did people even get to notion to test for a cold/flu?
From what you have thus far explained, it sounds like a cold/flu. High fevers are not uncommon with colds and flus. Isn't it odd that for years the cold and flu disappeared, only to be supplanted by another disease that was "novel and deadly", yet was instrumental in killing the same people susceptible to the cold and flu and with the same symptoms as the cold/flu?
What you are describing in detail here is something before 2020, nobody would bother because it is a very familiar tale of "getting sick." And this is how it has been since time immemorial.
"it did seem odd in that some people got it so bad and even died, and others barely felt it. It also seems like it was worse for people early on."
This is the nature of sickness. It's not odd at all. If Covid was a novel deadly virus, it would have taken all regardless. It would have taken a top tier athlete, old person, child, regardless. But we didn't see that at all.
I mostly agree with you- if no one freaked out about Covid, it wouldāve just been an unremarkable, moderately bad normal flu season. We donāt sit around constantly testing for colds. Except I do think Covid exists, and was made in a lab to be very infectious. The testing was kind of silly, and not totally reliable, but it did line up with coming up positive as symptoms appeared, then coming up negative as they disappeared, and it happened that way with many, many people at our co-op, spreading outward in an obvious way from each other. And Covid had symptoms and a feel to it that was different from a usual cold or flu.
It is interesting exactly as you say, that colds/flu ādisappearedā during that time. Itās either that every cold/flu was counted as Covid (and there were tons of incentives to do this), but I also think itās possible that the Covid virus did actually push out all other viruses for a while. It was made in a lab and acts weird.
I think that Covid exists as well, but it was a relabeled "cold or flu." It would not take much to have symptoms align with testing because most of those who tested were self-selecting. If you had to be swabbed to be admitted to a hospital "shock" you tested positive for a disease when you weren't feeling well. Shock #2: You went to a testing facility to check if you had Covid because you "felt sick."
It would be interesting to see if those who were coerced to test regardless of symptoms actually developed any symptoms later because there are many reports that the forced quarantines due to contact tracing and forced testing in order to enter into some places (and travel) amounted to nothing.
In terms of covid "feeling different." I would argue that in a couple of ways.
1. You never step in the same river twice. So no matter when you get a disease, it is always going to feel different. Getting the flu at 4 at 14 at 24 etc. all have different "feelings" to them.
I wonder if some day I will look upon this response and think "yep, getting this cold at (whatever age I am in the future) is far more of an ordeal than it was when I would blow through than here at 58.
2. Would you have known it was different if you had not been inundated with 24/7 propaganda for years?
3. While I agree that you have to at times trust your instincts. At other times you can be deceived by your own perceptions.
Some claim that... mostly crack-pots.
Do you argue that smallpox, Dengue, Flu, Zika, colds, etc are not viruses?
Before 2020, I was full onboard against the anti-vax crackpots. Heck, a couple years ago I was on the "reasonable wagon" with the mRNA shot being an experimental injection, but just to prove to my doctor I was not a crackpot, I took the pneumonia vaccine.
Now I am questioning viruses and virology along with vaccinoloy because if you look into the history of it, it gets a bit sketchy.Have they ever directly extracted a virus from an "infected sample?" Have they run control experiments with no samples and employing the same method of isolating and culturing? Did those controls render similar artifacts under an electron microscope considered to be "viruses?"
The work of Stefan Lanka and now Jamie Andrews concerning this type of work casts continued doubt that has existed since virology's inception.
So long answer short. This pot is cracked.
I don't have a dog in the hunt, when it comes to "do viruses exist?" though this may be interesting to the science-minutia oriented...
But diseases do exist and if "anti-virals" help prevent or cure them, and they DO... I am not that interested in nomenclature.
But... if viruses don't exist... what causes all the diseases currently thought to be caused by viruses? And do the causes differ between the various "viral" diseases?
I do have a dog in this hunt when I am mandated to receive a vaccine or to be coerced into performing medical theater. So yes, if experts are going to mandate we do something, the onus is on them to prove it is a "clear and present danger" to use the parlance of national security.
Diseases do exist, but is it "anti-virals" that work, or are they simply aiding in initiating an antibody response? Could not the medication meant to inhibit the replication of viruses also be used to inhibit the symptomatic response of whatever it is the body is actually doing? And is symptomatic inhibition necessarily a good thing? The answer is, of course yes, if the continued elevation of such symptoms leads to death.
I know it's wrong to do so, but doing my own research into "what causes different viral diseases?" can render some interesting results. For instance, for smallpox, a case could be made that it was caused not by a virus, but by toxic environmental elements due to bad sanitation or exposure to toxic materials. Arsenic to name one.
In early smallpox history, there was an English town that refused to vaccinate for smallpox and instead elected to clean up their sanitation, and magically, the smallpox cases dropped. We also know that the measles epidemic had been dropping for many years before the vaccine was introduced. Polio has a similar history in that there could be another source than a virus.
Nice.
Cancer?
Reminds me of a "bit" I saw, but I don't remember where.
A: Sadly, he passed away last year. The big "C."
B: Cancer?
A: No. He drowned. In the Big Sea.
Similar to the joke about drinking:
https://www.tiktok.com/@funguyyyyy/video/7221236528620637482
Sorry. C = Covid.
Dosage and frequency? Thx!
How often do you take and what dosage? Do you adjust if you were feeling poorly?
God bless you 4! This makes me so happy to hear.
I add to that with ClO2... I take that prophylactically 2X a day, 3-drop dose. I don't know if it's a placebo effect or what, but I SWEAR my old-age eyes now need about 1X less reader magnification than they did 3-4 months ago...
Can you provide a link where you order the ClO2? Also, is it the same as MMS?
here's a link (provided by Dr Kory) on some info on ClO2/dosing /differences etc. You can buy CDS and MMS on amazon. I use CDS 3000ppm I bought there to get rid of a biofilm causing repeat UTI. Just did the protocol of 5-6-7ml (dose increases daily) in liter of water drink a portion every hour til done in 8 hours for a week. Got rid of the UTI brewing and hope to cycle on and off until no longer needed. The water protocol (helpfully) also gets you drinking more water which helps too.
https://mmsinfo.org/
Kory's info is as good as anyone else... mostly because he is a reformed allopathic medicine cultist that now seems wisdom from the data...
Being funny there, but his credentials and path make him a great advocate of censored possibilities because he has cred in both worlds.
Thank you for the comment and link. I had never heard of MMS so I went to look. Just getting started exploring, but hope it can help with IBS-M.
Look into Neprinol enzymes + magnesium - to gently clear out biofilms & accumulated sludge from the intestinal tract.
Do both CDS and MMS have a bad taste? Don't know why I can't wrap my head around these two healing agents, but I wanna!
Well it's not delicious so diluting it with LOTS of water minimizes the taste
Itās odd, but it can be written in almost any combination, itās the same product. Hocl is the proper way, as far as Iām concerned. And Iām not a chemist, but you can google it. I use it in my water pic. Quite a bit. Itās expensive, but it keeps your dental visits down to a minimum, and good practice according to dentists. Itās made in Tampa, I get it by the gallon.
Hypochlorous acid (HoCl) can be made at home - I've been making it since about 2020. Initial cost can be high, but i use it all around the house - instead of bleach in the washing machiine, sanitizing all sorts of things, diluted for eye spray, etc.
Iāve used this company in Tampa: Curativa. Curativabay.com for Hypochlorous skin care. Go there for more information. Also great home cleaning purposes.
Source?
Check out Curativabay.com.
Thanks!
Really? Really? Do it yourself. Yikes.
What?! Asking/wondering the name of the manufacturer. Is it bad to ask?
please do some independent research on this.
Whatās wrong with asking questions here? Thatās part of āresearchā, reaching out to others who have experience.
That is exactly what I said. Doing independent research, if you are not aware, IS asking questions and trying to find answers. One should not blindly accept another's recommendations. THAT is what I said.
Itās condescending. In this community you donāt need to tell someone āplease do some independent researchā and then say nothing more, because it implies that you believe they are not already. How can you know that?? How can you know she is blindly accepting someoneās recommendation and not taking other things into account at the same time? She asked for a link to information someone gave. So what? Why interfere in her question if you have nothing at all to add other than doubt about her common sense?
I have done a LOT of research on it and believe it to be an incredible substance with MANY health benefits and very few downsides.
I have followed Dr Kalcker on it for years... and have taken it regularly for years.
You?
Itās the product our white blood cells make to kill invaders.
Pierre Kory's Medical Musings (substack) has some pretty good info on the subject--it's Chlorine Dioxide.
Hocl hypochlorous acid.
Dr. Kalcker is the expert... though Kory is a very good guy.
Yes, inquiring minds (that need readers) want to know more!
please do independent research on this
Always. A wise warning.
What are you trying to imply?
If you have issues with CDS... say them out plainly.
I don't even know what CDS is. Before anyone ingests anything they need to see if it is appropriate for them. That doesn't sound radicle to me.
Do some research before commenting then, assclown.
And learn to spell, imbecile!
Yes, don't ever just try anything that somebody says works great! Everyones health and body chemistry is different...
Think of all the people who have fallen for charlatans over the years. Used to call it "snake oil."
CDS is "snake oil'?
You just proved you are grossly uninformed.
Get educated on it before commenting further.
What is C102?
CLO2 is the same as HOCL.
It is C L 0(as in Oxygen) 2
as "I RUN THIS" stated above, go here:
https://mmsinfo.org/
MMS is directly related... Not sure about that site.
Chlorine Dioxide. I suggest looking at Dr. Kory's postings on it. He did a great deep dive, including the Big Pharma Mafia (TM) suppression of it.
EVERYONE PLEASE DO RESEARCH BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING NEW!
The site listed was directly from Dr. Kory's postings FYI. He said it had info on dosing etc as he didn't want to post that in his article because it is a tad complex and would then constitute "medical advice" which he was not explicitly giving per se.
Some of the docs publishing "hidden" medical info minimize that risk and answer more detailed questions in comments for paid subscribers. Don't know if Kory does that.
If you want to dig deeper, search for the founder of MMS Jim Humble and Forbidden Health by Andreas Kalcker (www.AndreasKalcker.com). Kalcker has an ebook for about $10 with protocols he's "aware of" for about three dozen ailments. I use the quotes bc I can't remember the specifics of his particular work and and expertise. At the time, I did significant due diligence to my satisfaction,.resulting in my trusting of his protocols as *considerations* should I experience any of the ailments his book addresses.
As always, Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV). Due your research w.r.t. YOUR health.
We're all in different metabolic states.
I've come to believe most of the ailments I've had stem from cellular level problems, and Chlorine Dioxide has great promise to repair that to some degree. I could be wrong, but EVERYTHING I've read suggests it has safe levels to test it.
NOTE - GENERAL CAUTIONARY STATEMENT:
Chlorine Dioxide/MMS can cause discomfort if you start it too fast. Follow the start up protocols if you decide to test it. Or get a physician that can guide you. And verify contraindications for you personally. I don't take ANY meds, never anything longer than 10 days and stronger than amoxicillin. I've no allergies I've found in 62 yrs. I'm very healthy, but have a few minor issues on occasion. So my experience is likely best case. Think for yourself about yourself. Start slowly, and seek expert help if your condition has complications.
The more complicating factors, the more expertise is generally required. More factors equals more complex problem solving. Know your limitations at your point in life and respect that.
My $2 worth (used to be 2Ā¢, but inflation).
CI02?
Sorry. Chlorine Dioxide. Or MMS. Dr. Kory did a deep dive on that in his Substack recently for folks new to it. Works at the cellular level with mitochondria function repair and improvement.
A Midwestern Doctor has talked about it too! Thanks for the clarification.
between ivermectin, DMSO, and Chlorine Dioxide, a lot of ground can be covered without big pharma.
and it's not only ivermectin the medical industry has suppressed - DMSO has marvelous healing capabilities and today Dr. Mercola reports on the incredible healing properties of UV treated blood - all suppressed by the medical industry which it becomes clearer & clearer each day is not interested in healing but only managing symptoms and getting paid by Pharma
Have you read A Midwestern Doctorās columns about DMSO? Talk about a deep dive, she (I think) has done probably 6 long articles about DMSO, each one tackling a specific thing like orthopedic uses, uses for eye issues, etc. There was also one about DMSO history, and they are all SO WELL researched. Could absolutely be combined into a book.
Dr. Mercola often includes one of his/her columns - always very informative - but that he/she has to use an alias says a lot about our medical establishment
Absolutely!
I use a small amount of DMSO in my CDS doses if I feel anything coming on.
I take Ivermectin as a prophylactic in accordance with the FLCCC protocol. It works. Here is the protocol for those interested:
https://imahealth.org/protocol/i-prevent-covid-flu-rsv/
Unsteady, count me in on the Ivermectin! We have it on hand - used it and Hydroxychloroquine successfully during covid and the IVM for a couple of issues afterwards. The fact that IVM has been used for over 40 years with 4 billion doses administered and was on the (now irrelevant) WHOās list of āessential medsā should tell us something positive. Eh?
And, Jeff, count me (after having done my research and used my common sense) as one of the ānoncompliantsā - proudly so.
We continue to take ivermectin every 2 weeks as a preventative. My husband and I stay healthy and there have been no side effects.
Same, although I do take an aspirin daily.
Instead of aspirin, I take a cayenne pepper tincture, usually 2 times a day. I make it myself using 1/4 cup of 150,000hu of cayenne pepper (Southwest Botanicals), 3/4 cup of vegetable glycerin (food grade) and a 1/4 cup of water. Shake well and put into amber dropper bottles. I use two droppers full in a Dixie cup and mix with water. It may seem hot the first couple of times, especially if youāre not used to it, but itās a wonderful natural remedy to thin the blood. Cayenne pepper has been shown to stop some heart attacks and strokes, in their tracks, if placed under the tongue during an attack. I carry Cayenne pepper tincture and powder with me wherever I go, just in case.
Excellent! Thank you.
Reminds me of Dr Richard Schultz.
Iām the same. I donāt even have a doctor. If I have an issue I go to urgent care and see a PA. Iāve gone twice in the past five years. My allergies always end in upper respiratory infections. I wish theyād add antibiotics to the OTC list.
use Colloidal silver instead. Do some homework first and use a reputable brand... do NOT make it yourself unless you become an expert.
Antibiotics are nasty... sometimes essential... but nasty!
I agree. Never got tested because, once again, no trust and hefty skepticism as to accuracy.
Music to my ears that you don't need meds. You are blessed! Ivermec rocks!
Had to chime in on Ivermectin:
1) Ivermectin is one of the ingredients in the cream used to treat Rosacea
2) Epoch Times published an article yesterday on Joe Tipper's 2016 self treatment for his terminal cancer using Fenbendazole and Ivermectin which I never thought I would see in any widely read publication.
It has helped in shrinking my hemorrhoids. Better than going in paying $400 a visit for banding to shrink them. $16 for the ivermectin cream from tractor supply.
I hadnāt heard of it being used for that. Glad it worked.
Internal or topical? I am always curious as I keep hearing about applying topically.
I purchase Ivermectin cream from an overseas pharmacy. Itās AMAZING for cold sores. Literally, gone overnight.
L-lysine, and amino acid will help with cold sores too.
lysine supps are great in cats with herpes too. Viralys is what I use for my cat when her Herpes comes out of latency.
Heavy doses of Lysine, Proline and Vitamin C can reverse/prevent coronary arterial clogging.
Linus Pauling and Dr. Rath...
But do your own research. Nattokinase or lumbrokinase (not both) are GREAT additions... as is serrapeptase.
those take several days for results
Correct. I had been using lysine for years and it may shorten the time you have a cold sore whereas the ivermectin eradicates it.
CVS has an Ivermectin lotion that they sell as lice treatment. Itās Ivermectin 0.5% and itās suitable for topical application. Itās the CVS brand.
I use it for rosacea that I developed from wearing those idiotic masks.
Ditto for Walmart. I got some for some ringworm-like (fungal?) lesions on my hands and forearm, and there has been a noticeable improvement. Not as fast as I would like, but itās working. I couldnāt find anything with more than a 0.5% concentration, other than the horse paste products at 1.87%, but my impression is that the latter is for internal use (and, please, if it is fine for external use, someone please sound off).
In the past Iāve used the horse paste on some pre-cancerous lesions I had on my forehead and along the jawline with great success. They completely disappeared after 3-4 weeks. Havenāt had any more since.
Several of todayās commenters said they used the paste topically.
Got mine from IndiaMart use WISE money transfer.
It is available from pharmacies in Mexico too. Otherwise, many pharmacies in the US who will make it available are considerably more expensive.
I've looked at the India pharmacies and haven't bought any ivm yet. It seemed complicated. Did you pay Wise with a credit card?
I purchase from this India-based pharmacy. Theyāre terrific. (Links belowā¦)
Below are IVM meds Iāve purchased in the past:
Ivermectin Austro 12 mg: https://bit.ly/2ZTLTFi
Ivermectin Austro 6 mg: https://bit.ly/3k0ARoA
Ivermectin Ivermectol 12 mg: https://bit.ly/3bFDojwm
The 12 mg are perfect for my body weight, as IVM is dosed by body weight (for both prevention and treatment).
Their customer service is open to talk to Monday through Saturday from 9 am ET to 5:30 am ET. They tend to change their payment method options, so I put the items into my cart on their website, and then I call them to discuss their current payment options. Sometimes they take PayPal; sometimes they donāt. One time I chose the option to mail a check to their US-based third party vendor with a copy of my order. When the third party vendor received the check, the pharmacy sent my order. It does take several weeks to receive it, but even with the shipping cost, it is the cheapest Iāve found.
I also order Careprost (generic Latisse which has made my lashes much longer), generic tretinoin, and last time I ordered tacrolimus .03% so that I didnāt need to go back to the doctor AND that terrific product costs way too much on my current drug plan (I think a tube at Walgreens was going to cost $200, so I paid my India pharmacy $18.32 for the same quantity).
I believe my setup was either that OR I did ACH transfer by utilizing my bank acct # and routing #.
It really worked fine.
On the other hand I tried to buy something from Alibaba(China) and could not utilize WISE so I terminated the buy.
Can you share the process of ordering from overseas?
I mostly use alldaychemist.com
Also bought my IVM from alldaychemist.com
I use Indiamart, too. Pretty painless, may be slightly confusing, at first. You'll go to the website, search for whatever med you are looking to buy. You may a get a lot of responses from different vendors. Some say they will call, but I've been able to by pass that. Ignore the part on the form where it asks for a prescription---you don't need one. The particular vendor that I use is Salmani Pharmaceuticals. Very attentive and receptive, and meds are at your home within about 2 weeks. The payment method is through Remitly, which is like PayPal. They may have other options, though. Currently, they are selling 100 12/mg IVM for $5. Shipping is $30, up to 1000 pills. I have a friend who also orders her husband's migraine meds there, too.
How do you get any information on purity or safe manufacturing? Iām seeing a huge range of prices!
I use Indiamart, too. Pretty painless, may be slightly confusing, at first. You'll go to the website, search for whatever med you are looking to buy. You may a get a lot of responses from different vendors. Some say they will call, but I've been able to by pass that. Ignore the part on the form where it asks for a prescription---you don't need one. The particular vendor that I use is Salmani Pharmaceuticals. Very attentive and receptive, and meds are at your home within about 2 weeks. The payment method is through Remitly, which is like PayPal. They may have other options, though. Currently, they are selling 100 12/mg IVM for $5. Shipping is $30, up to 1000 pills. I have a friend who also orders her husband's migraine meds there, too.
You can order it from the Wellness Company. Dr. McCullough is associated with them.
Wellness Company is ridiculously expensive. There are many good places to use that are less expensive.
Both.
For roseacea it's topical
And with a banding they come back
They do.
Wow! I need to go get that cream - my elderly mum is dealing with hemmoroids - sounds like an excellent cure!
I take ivermectin via a pill as well. I am sorta experimenting with what works. What I have experienced is an improvement overall. With adding walking and weight loss I am trying to improve my overall health as well. That's gotta help too. All this info is for full disclosure so you can make your own decisions. š„°
"I have a friend" who appreciates this comment.
Iāll keep that in mind. My husband has suffered with those in the past.
The 2% ivermectin Rx to treat rosacea is called Soolantra and from I have gathered it is quite expensive.
The ivermectin horse paste is 1% so it might take a bit longer...and you might smell like apples.
Only if you get the "apple flavored" version! šš¤£ Over the years, my "unscientific" poll of the livestock re: ivermectin - 50% of horses, goats, and sheep like the apple-flavored IVM over non-flavored IVM. We had 1 horse and a couple of goats who would rummage through the trash to find the empty tubes to chew on! I had to bury the tubes deep in the trash can and make sure the tack room door was securely latched on deworming day!
Mrs. "the Knife"
Too funny. Your story made my day.
Yay, I'm glad! This was the horse that figured out how to open every gate and stall door on the farm, turn on the barn lights, and would steal a bite of whatever you were eating, including doughnuts, turkey sandwiches, and chili! I kept telling him he was an herbivore not an omnivore, but he never listened. My mama says I should write a book......
Mrs. "the Knife"
People have said I should write a book about my cats and their antics. Perhaps a compendium of wonderful, dumb animal stories that will make you smile? I've been mulling over my next book...
I had thought about a book about my dog, but in the vein of Wyatt Earp's "My Friend Doc Holliday."
If you write it, they will read it, to paraphrase Field of Dreams. I am sure you would have plenty of folks here who would love to read a book like that!
Mrs. "the Knife"
My sister is a goat ladyā¦ goats are hilariousā¦
We have had a varied menagerie over the years (horses, goats, sheep, dogs, cats) and have come to the conclusion that baby goats are just about the cutest babies ever. We say that goats are friendly like dogs and as curious as cats - the curiosity factor makes for some interesting predicaments! I came home from work and found Casper (the Friendly Goat) with his rump in the air and his head stuck under the fence! Who knows how long he had been stuck; I am sure it was a grass-is-greener scenario, as the neighbor's side of the fence had some lush grass within tempting reach!
Mrs. "the Knife"
Had that happen with a cat who stuck his head through through the loop of a paper bag. Came home and he looked so pitiful and embarrassed.
Love this! It is always hilarious to watch them try and get out of that particular predicament!
Mrs. "the Knife"
OH, that is funny. I thought Kathleen was making a joke!
Hey, I like apples too. maybe I will switch over to the horse version from the human version!
My friend gave her dad the horse version for cancer. RX wasn't available.
Love your comment about the goats.
They are endlessly entertaining! Some are very talkative - if you "maa" at them they will "maa" right back. They just have to poke their muzzles into whatever you are doing.
One must have very good fencing for goats as they are Houdinis at finding any weakness in the fence. I came home from work to find all of the goats in the garden, happily munching away on the almost-ready-to-harvest pumpkins! That was not entertaining!
Mrs. "the Knife"
My sisters cats are the same way.
You should let the goats know that it makes no difference to you, as long as they fatten themselves up.
I don't think it needs to be true to be effective, but I don't have goats.
Apple version has titanium dioxide in it!
Great - of course it does. Like so many others, I grew up trusting doctors, veterinarians, teachers, etc. Due to some health issues and damage by the medical "system" I have been questioning everything, reading labels, looking up studies, etc., but I didn't think to read the ingredients on the "horse paste"! I am still getting used to the idea that you cannot trust the veterinarians, either. What a world we live in!
Mrs. "the Knife"
I learned not to trust doctors. I married one.
LOL!!
Our roads can often be bumpy. :-(
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Had lunch with my old college boyfriend the other day. Weāve stayed good friends over the years. We still have friends in common this group is āyou canāt come on a girls weekend at the coast unless youāre vaccinatedā. When I whined to him about it he said to me, ājust get vaccinated, theyāre safeā. I just said no thanks. Was finally invited back this last November, I said āno thanksā again! š
Background, heās a vet school washout who became a successful vet drug and supply rep. I wanted to send him yesterdayās C&C since he is expecting his first grand baby.
I also wanted to ask āgee, you think your tachycardia could have been caused by the vax?ā since he mentioned it the other day and how successful the surgery was.
Anyway, the point of all this Mrs. t K, is our shared disappointment in the veterinary world.
I get the unflavored ivermectin from Amazon but itās the gel. I donāt like it as much. I use it for skin problems like pre-cancers.
I have had some success using CBD oil on pre-cancers... but the IVM paste sounds great, as I occasionally get 'roids from weightlifting too. :-(
I try to avoid that... it is in MANY supps... but it is, for me, not a deal-killer if I really need something.
Most baby aspirin has it too...
Titanium dioxide? What is it?
It is a pigment. One of the ingredients in sun screen.
Mrs. "the Knife"
I believe ivermectin horse paste is 1.87%. The injectable is 1%
Goat drench .8% 10ml/100# x2 = 1.6%?
My understanding is that the dips/ drenches are not good for human consumption
Oh no! I need to find that out. Sigh... More research of what is and what isn't. š We've been taking it for two years!
The pour-ons are not ingestible. The drenches probably won't hurt you, but they aren't concentrated enough. A little more here...https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/
Here's just one of the many articles outlining the uses of IVM:
https://journals.lww.com/idoj/fulltext/2021/12040/current_use_of_ivermectin_in_dermatology,_tropical.3.aspx
Excellent link...many thanks.
HAHA! I could think of worse things to smell like.
I only knew this because my godmother had rosacea and I read the ingredients on the medication she was using to topically treat it. Her RX was covered by Medicare.
Internal high dose of ivermectin cured my rosacea.
What dosage did you use?
12 mg 4x per day for three weeks. Not saying you need that much!
I had die off symptoms (flu-like) about day nine & did enemas / colonics to remove parasite residues.
Skin cleared up & rosacea has not returned.
Thanks for the details.
I have a soolantra script for rosacea that I donāt really need for rosacea anymore but I fill it because I like it so much for other random skin stuff. $15 copay.
Unfortunately, the VA does not have Soolantra in their formulary.
Meaning the VA does not have it on a list of drugs they carry.
Well that stinks
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Tampon Tim would love the apple smelling horse paste. It has been rumored that he has yen for the four-leggeds.
Ivermectin is also in some brands of otc lice treatments. CVS store brand called IVER. Amazon also has it. Non prescription too.
Durvet makes an apple flavor thatās actually more like a gel and also a white paste. Zimecterin also makes a white paste. They may offer an apple one as well but my local farm store doesnāt carry it. At least I havenāt seen it there.
A recent podcast about one fellow's experience: https://www.financialsense.com/podcast/21318/roger-rasmussen-finding-fenbendazole-my-unexpected-path-through-cancer
Did you know fenbendazole paste is also sold in a tube next to the IVM horse paste? My store was out of the IVM paste so I got the fenben. It worked better on my husbandās eczema than the IVM paste.
The reason I was getting the IVM paste was for a dark, rough spot that had shown up on my shin many months prior - not a scab and hadnāt recalled a mole there. The IVM paste removed it and the scar has all but disappeared.
When you say IVM "horse paste" is this actually a gel or more like a paste consistency?
Good to know.
Itās a beautiful day that God has made! āļøšš¼š Happy Friday, C&C Family!
According to a study by the Cleveland Clinic, the 2024 flu shots efficacy was -27%. That is negative efficacy! That means that the people who got the shot for 27% more likely to get the flu!!! People would be so much better taking vitamin D3 vitamin E. Shortly before the flu shots were massively pushed years ago, there was a paper showing that giving elderly people in nursing homes vitamin E (I believe it was 800 IU) cut the rate of respiratory deaths in half. Cue the fraudulent media reports trying to slander vitamin E.
Holy cow! Here's the study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.30.25321421v3
Iām guessing that the people who regularly take the flu shot are more likely to have taken the COVID jabs, so their immune systems are already a mess. Iām definitely not saying the flu shot would be effective if you havenāt had the C-jab, but Iām wondering if we will see similar results this year. It will be interesting to see if peopleās immune systems start to eventually recover. (I donāt have a lot of hope for thisā¦)
Iām pretty sure they screen those factors out when they do a study like this. And I agree with you that I hold out very little hope that peopleās damaged immune system systems from the Covid shots will recover.
The people who were killed by the vack-seens will never factor in to the results.
The data has been polluted until someone does some hard core Bayesian analysis.
I used to never get flu shots. Then I got married, and about 20 years ago my loving wife strongly ārecommendedā that I get a flu shot. So I did. I didnāt get it every single year, I would always put it off until she (politely or non-politely) nagged me to get it. Over the timeframe from roughly 20 years ago until the beginning of Covid, I probably had about five or six shots. At least three of those times, within a few days of getting the shot, I got the flu. So, yes, I noticed the negative effectiveness also, though I didnāt scientifically track it.
Well, suffice it to say that I am no longer getting the flu shot, and especially after I heard that several of the Covid vax companies were incorporating that witchās brew into the flu vaccine without being very upfront about it. Oh, the information was available, but itās buried in the small print on those stupid handouts they give with every drug, and I donāt know too many people who read those things.
If they do read them itās only after the fact
That's the REAL truth!
Washington Post ran a great story late yesterday headlined, āRFK Jr. wins his fight against a rare, safe flu-shot ingredient.ā
Newspeak translation:
rare=common
safe=dangerous
I believe it is the Washington Compost. šš
Rare does not mean what we think it means in the medical setting. For adverse events it means between 1 in 1000 and 1 in 10000 individuals experience the side effect. 1 in 1000 is not great odds and does not sound all that rare to me. Uncommon means between 1 in 100(!) And 1 in 1000. That doesn't sound all that uncommon either.
So if they use "rare", I don't think that means what they want us to think it means.
Yes, I looked into the medical use of these terms a few years ago. Even ārareā could mean hundreds of thousands of injuries nationwide.
As a retired nurse, wife of MD, & mother of an MD, I trusted the medical establishment. Not any more! Both my husband & daughter are red-pilled. We have purchased Iver from India for 4 years. During an ear infection with hearing loss & recurring UTIs & after 5 courses of antibiotics plus Iver, a pharmacist recommended Aquamira (Chlorine Dioxide). Within 2 weeks my ear was clear, my hearing restored, & no UTIs in the past year. Anecdotal, but our family has new respect for alternatives.
How do you use it for ear infection?I have some CDS. I went to ER and was put on prednisone and had to stop after 4 days. Severe anxiety and bloody noses. Still have ear infection too. I need help. Thank you
I purchased aquamira water treatment https://www.amazon.com/Aquamira-Chlorine-Dioxide-Treatment-Bottles/dp/B000OR111G/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=ZBGP6KJGFJOD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1p7yftJBo7P-EiCfP9n4ep4fTjSV-FzW6LO7tujy5_BvggXFl-aSz_3rVXJruCGFvLv9qUv9mxvfM-RXuJqca83_o9lvTjkL7Zo-0bckTMr3IHak_Hpldrg-Zimdh1-LNSJW7mBaWmDmaiDHxSa7KLmT5rAtNY8xgXuAmfnvyg0Lt1U41uCVEHiAMhpyNUoVQiNttgxPFswzumOIPPvMuw.pNO-i30-ISg0lvgRHmkH5owvTcXX8aGwAjpLDICuN1I&dib_tag=se&keywords=aquamira+water+treatment+drops&qid=1751053378&sprefix=aquamira%2Caps%2C229&sr=8-1. & used according to package directions. I drank 1/2 gal/day for several weeks.
Thank you kindly.
And drink a quart or more/day. Pierre Kory has a substack on Chlorine dioxide
The pharmacist recommended increasing the concentration as tolerated. Iām currently at 4.9 ppm
Leana Wen is an evil, evil woman.
If she had her way during the pandemic, the unjabbed would have been locked in their homes.
Agree, sheās awful š”
Or transferred to government "homes."
She needs to be wok-ed.
The results of yesterdayās ACIP meeting:
No elimination of any vaccines currently recommended for pregnant women, children, or adults.
No required elimination of mercury-laden thimerosal from vaccines, or aluminum for that matter, or any of the other toxic, poisonous, heinous ingredients that comprise each and every vaccine.
No recall or withdrawal of any improperly and unethically tested and approved vaccine, which is all of them.
No moratorium on vaccines issued, despite known corruption and fraud from manufacture to mandate, and known dangers, including death, disability, chronic illness, and infertility.
No declaration that bodily autonomy, parental rights, religious freedom, informed consent, and the ethical practice of medicine cannot take place in the presence of mandates, and therefore, mandates must be eliminated.
And it was apparently more important for the panel to discuss the chikungunya vaccine than what happened to your children and mine after their āroutineā vaccines.
More of the same. Unacceptable. Inexcusable. A travesty.
(I posted this comment on Age of Autism this morning.)
Iāve made it to a very old age, mainly, I believe because I was not subjected to childhood vaccines ā¦ smallpox and polio only. Had and survived all the usual: measles, mumps, chicken pox.
As an adult I had the tetanus vax twice, shingles once, and flu vax 6-8 times. Stopped all vaxes about 8 years ago and will never have another. Terrified of being sedated now because Iāve read about cases where sedated patients were jabbed with C-19 vax if not up-to-date with vax schedule.
4Freedom,
Assuming you are conscious and able to sign the consent form, you need to know to cross off the part about agreeing to ābiologicsā or ābiogenicsā, code names for vaccines. You should also clearly write on the form that you do not consent to any vaccines, biologics, or biogenics, and then make sure that everyone involved in your care has been made aware of that. Not foolproof in todayās world, but would hopefully work to protect you.
I just learned today, that a clientās daughter was given the Covid shot despite the fact that she didnāt want it and they said it was the tetanus shot. So a lot of horrible horrible things have been going on.š±š¢
I had surgery last month and I had a talk with all involved regarding this very topic. Not only that, I wanted no "blood transfusion" or "blood products" as they can't guarantee there is no COVID injection product in the blood. I don't want nor need someone else's spike protein garbage in my body when I have worked diligently to avoid it on my own.
Good advice. Iāll take it.
I just wrote the same thing! We must have both seen the video by the nurse on Instagram.
Thanks
I wonder if the few vaxes I received before the age of three, helped to induce my lifelong Asthma. I was born in 1958.
you will never know.
God Knows.
If you are conscious when admitted and have to sign a consent form, cross out the line listing vaccines or biogenics. And initial it saying No Vaccines.
Also fill out an advance directive and have it on file with your doc and the hospital. Say āno vaccinesā or biogenics.
Iām not a lawyer but I think this could work. At the very least you can sue if they do jab you. I hope itās not just wishful thinking.
You have more faith, than I do I donāt trust them at all. Thatās something that disappeared completely five years ago. š„¹ I think if you go in the hospital, you have to have somebody with you 24 hours a day to make sure that they donāt do things that you donāt want them to do.š¢
Good point
same here!
So, I will second that one.
I've thought of this idea, but wouldn't they have had to given two doses of the vaccine, then?
I just read the Thimerosal Material Safety Data Sheet on Wayback Machine.
Nasty stuff.
It seems the only safe way to dispose of it is to mix it with a flammable solvent and burn it in an incinerator that has an afterburner and a scrubber.
That is, if one does not have access to hypodermic needles and arms into which one can jab it.
Exactly. To read more about this heinous vaccine ingredient, and the availability of thimerosal-free flu vaccines, or lack thereof, making the recommendation untenable, read #3 in this presentation of mine from 2018. I doubt the situation has changed since then.
https://www.ageofautism.com/2018/11/why-is-this-legal-presentation-on-vaccines-by-laura-hayes.html
and to think we were never given informed consent about this when you got jabbed with a jab that had this in it. piss me off.
Thanks for posting LH.
Later Jay
Thank you for the dose of reality. Far too much back patting around here and not enough critical thinking and research. Most everyone here was giddy about DOGE but ultimately DOGE didn't do jack other than steal our sensitive data - which when warned about you were accused of being a Biden supporting POS.
YEP.
So much more to the ensuing battles. The first meeting was some opening shots across the bow, pretty small BB's and not much powder.
I am looking for a MOP's or two in the future!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/how-the-pentagon-made-a-bunker-buster-specifically-for-fordow-5878647?
Happy Friday everyone!!! It is a glorious day in the Yakima Valley!
Happy Friday! It is cool and cloudy here in the Puget Sound area.
Mrs. "the Knife"
Same here in EA WA. My cat likes this weather.
Iām sitting on my porch and my entitled Prima Donna kitty is meowing like crazy to get back inside to the A/C.
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Hot and sunny here in Indiana š„µ
Still only 63Ā°F here in central MinnEsnowta, 10am.
Hubs and I are camping in Indiana this week. My sister is in Vegas. The weather here in Indiana is worse than there, what with the tropical humidity pushing up the heat index, and weāve been spending a lot of time outdoors.
Itās definitely been not-so-great weather for outdoor activities these past few days š At least itās not been rainy like the first part of the month I guess. Itās supposed to get a little better next week.
We got lucky - forecast showed rain every day but not what we had. Never had to wipe down a wet dog, thankfully!
Thatās good at least!
Happy Friday to all! We received much needed rain last night! We give thanks to God!
Oh.... we live in the Panhandle of TX... where it is usually hot and dry!!!!
I do like cool and cloudyā¦ we used to live on the California Central Coastā¦ Pismo Beach areaā¦ summers were foggy a lot of the time.
Summer can be pretty hot in the Yakima Valley.
Not fun being in the downpour at the local farmers market last night, but since I got that out of the way am enjoying reading the comments section with my āhappy Fridayā coffee from a local stand. Gotta love our Washington summersš
Happy Friday!!
Ditto EA WA.
Praise be to God for His Mercy and Goodness. Thank you for saving Donald Trump so we can elect him again and start the process of turning our country around. I pray for more conversions that people turn to God so that He continues to spare us from the chastisement we deserve.
Amen!
Marylandās Governor Wes Moore snapped, āMake no mistake: this unprecedented action is a transparent effort to intimidate judges and usurp the power of the courts.ā
Newspeak translation:
usurp the power of the courts=return power to the executive branch, where it rightfully belongs
Maryland is a sh*thole on the verge of financial collapse. I guess they were relying on kamala to win and bail them out.
And New York is now telling Maryland, āHold my beer!ā What a crazy world! I think the East and West coast states are fighting for the Best Communist Award!
Could be but check this interview out on TNC:
https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-liz-collin
Gov. Walz might be the new leader of the American CCP, just saying.
Later Jay
Whites, who settled the west, should have never allowed the 3rd worlders to take over our areas.
I live in Oregon and keep praying the fault line breaks and CA, OR, and WA fall into the depths of the Pacific Ocean.
Illinois wins!
My first night back at work always starts with a LONG day, as I usually wake fairly early on Fridays and then stay up the whole day before working all night. I try to nap, but I am usually unsuccessful. It is what it is, but I do love my job.
The left always projects to protect the grift. No kings = secret kings usurp legislating from the bench to protect their grift. The pattern is the same behind every bit of screeching they do and every effort to over reach to destroy our cultural institutions. We have to keep saying what is obvious, long after we think we should, so that the bulk of people catch up. Once you see the pattern you can't unsee it. It's everywhere. DOGE has been an icebreaker in that regard.
I just heard last night that Big Balls has left DOGE:{
I understand they hired him to work on the Social Security system officially.
Thanks for the update, I had not heard that.
Anyone familiar with the history of how and why the Constitution was written the way it was (and the Federalist Papers is an excellent source), knows that the Founders purposely split the power of government into three reasonably co-equal branches, with the idea that no one branch could accumulate too much power because the other two would be jealous of their own power and fight that third branch in various ways. I like to imagine that Somewhere, somehow, those.Founders are smiling when they learn of the apoplexy and gnashing of teeth in the judicial branch, because they know that their system is working exactly as planned. The judicial branch is supposed to rule upon the constitutionality of the laws, and the methods by which those laws are enforced. It is not supposed to make law, and I am absolutely certain that lower level courts do not have jurisdiction nationwide (though I suppose we will have to wait for the Supreme Court to make that ruling, hopefully today) - there is, after all, only one supreme court. The district courts and circuit courts have jurisdiction within their congressionally laid out jurisdictions, not everywhere. Thatās why they taught us in law school that when one circuit court ruled a certain way, it didnāt bind the circuit courts everywhere else, and thatās why the Supreme Court often weighs in when there are circuit splits on various issues.
To say that I am thrilled to see how upset the judicial and legal communities are about the executive branch, pushing back against the judiciary, would be the understatement of the century. Oh, as strongly alluded to above, I am an attorneyā¦ but I am a citizen first, meaning that my loyalty is to this country and the original intent of those who drafted the Constitution and the various amendments, not to the current political or financial or egotistical preferences of much lesser people in the present day.
Round up the judges and put them in Alligator Alcatraz then let them do work detail cleaning up the Everglades.
It's been a while since I've been here...Extremely busy. We visited a friend's autistic son who was diagnosed with tongue cancer....the nurse at the nurse's station told us "This may sound like a conspiracy theory, but I can't believe how many cases of cancer we are seeing in young people." š¤
Huh I wonder what has happened recently that might have caused this increase? šš¤
And prayers for your friendās son š
Thank you for your prayers. He is such a precious young man. So loving and kind.
That's so sad. š
Yes. He's in his 20's but only about 1st grade for mental development. It was hard to see him in so much pain after they removed over half his tongue with skin grafts to rebuilt the tongue. šŖ
Oh my. May God watch over him. How awful. šā¤ļø
God's mercy and grace on the autistic . . . this may be His mercy . . . I pray for this.
Autistic adult patients are very hard to treat, as they can be strongly resistant to help. It takes a lot of time and patience to solicit their cooperation. Praying for your friendās son and your friend and all the staff working with them.
Also heard from a friend whose son has autism that he has a hard time articulating what hurts and how it feels, as well as having a pain gauge that is off kilter š
He withheld from his parents that he was in pain until he couldn't stand it anymore. He didn't want them to worry. š¢
Aww š¢
Thankfully, he is not combative and he submits to instruction very well.
A horrific, Frankensteinian-like procedure. We did those types of procedures in the big teaching hospital I used to work at on the ENT floor. Absolutely awful.
Agreed. I guess itās a last resort and people do what they have to do.
I can't tell you how many patients were simply not prepared for their post-op appearance. It broke my heart on several occasions to accompany patients as they saw themselves for the first time after surgery. I am convinced that surgeons, at that time at least, didn't really obtain informed consent. I once asked a surgeon if they ever show patients photos to which he said, "oh, gosh, no. No one would ever consent." That says it all. I imagine plastic surgery has developed in the last 20+ years so maybe they can do a lot to mitigate against the ravages of the procedure now.
I had one patient, Joe (a farmer who required radical dissection of his lower jaw, neck and half his face) who was insistent on getting out of bed and looking at himself one day after surgery. His wife begged me to tell him no. I bargained with him that I would assist him to the bathroom and that we would look together but that I wanted him to remember it was early days, and his body would heal and that though he would never look the same as before, this wasn't the final appearance. So, I got him up with all his IV lines and oxygen line and foley bag and JP drains hanging from his neck wounds and together with his wife we went into his bathroom where he looked. And tears just streamed down all of our faces. He turned to me and mouthed "thank you." I hugged him and his wife and we completed his daily care.
He returned to the clinic several months later and made a point of stopping by the floor to see me. I couldn't believe how much better he looked. He was still scarred and his face was collapsed and his neck looked like a dog had bitten half of it away. But the smile on his face lit up the area around him and I learned that he and his wife submitted my name to the hospital for special recognition. It was a good day.
It is, my friend had her whole tongue removed, feeding tube and trach placed. In hospital for 2 weeks. I wept hearing all this.
So awful š
It truly is and she is such a good person making the world a better place. And then I ask God why good people have to suffer such bad tribulations and the evil ones have nary a care. It is maddening to me.
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I am sorry to hear about your friendās Son. Thatās mind boggling. Tongue cancer is rare or was rare.
My father was an oral surgeon. While I certainly did not ask him about every case that he worked on, I do recall a few times that he mentioned that a patient of his had tongue cancer. This was in the 1970s through 1990s timeframe. I would put an emphasis on the āfewā cases - you are correct that it is rare, and somebody like my father would have seen a lot more than the average doctor.
This was the first case I had ever heard of.
Same
A friend shared that she had a friend with it years ago.
"Rare" now has a new meaning.
Indeed it does.
How awful. This makes me so sad, I will pray for him.
This hurts my heart Robin to hear this. He and his family have enough to deal with. I will add him to my prayer list. My friend just had tongue cancer surgery 2 weeks ago. She has been covid jabbed. it was a gruesome surgery and I was horrified to hear what had to be done. I pray this young man does not have to have such invasive procedures.
Thank you so much. The surgeon stated that the most painful part would be the healing of the skin graft area taken from the thigh area. Skin is taken from the arm to reform the tongue and taken from the leg to place on the arm.
This is gut wrenching Robin. Just no words. I have already placed this young man on my prayer list tucked in my Bible. Your visit must have been full of melancholy to watch someone so dear suffer so. These are the times I ask God why....
Thank you so much for your prayers. They are greatly appreciated. He is on track to have his feeding tube removed next week. We also visited the father of a friend who had just had his left arm including his shoulder amputated due to a recurrence of cancer. It was a hard day. Just like the weeping prophet Jeremiah in Lamentations 3, I have to remember that God's mercies are new every morning and great is His faithfulness. And just like Job tells his wife, "shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?" After I lost. my leg in a motor vehicle accident (hit by drunk driver), I learned to define my circumstances through God's goodness and grace and love, rather than defining God by my circumstance. God never changes. His character is immutable; therefore, He is always good, alright right, and always loving. He never leaves me and never forsakes me.
You are a beautiful Soul Robin. If only many could follow your example, myself included. I am not where you are yet and will keep asking God why, especially where children are involved as that brings me to my knees. Godspeed to you always and take good care. I am grateful for your post and learning how others are so advanced in their relationship with God.
And I think that is one of the reasons why God allows tragedy, to bring us to our knees, to draw us close to Him, to cry out to our "Abba" (Daddy).
God has been faithfully growing my faith and understanding for many years and I will not fully understand until I am in glory with the Lord. š The tragedies of this world are very difficult to understand, and they make me long for heaven. As Isaiah 55:8 says, "'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways, My ways,' declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so My ways are higher than yours, and My thoughts than your thoughts." I may not understand why God allows things to happen, but I have learned to trust Him.
My longtime friend in Arizona, a trauma/ER nurse said she's never seen so many cardiac issues in people in their 30s and 40s. All since the pandemic. Imagine that.....
Tragic isn't it.
I had a friend (RN) that just told me 8 nurses in our OB department have cancer. This is not the 12 nurse in Boston OB. I asked her if the nurses are thinking anything about the Covid shot and she said not that they are saying out loud to her.
That's awful.
Just saw a patient yesterday. Her 11 year old has sarcoma and 2 more local kids had Ewings sarcoma ( one has since passed) and one of my Kidās classmates has AML . Iāve never seen this much cancer in this age group In a small town that does nonstop fundraisers for local folks. Everyone is noticing .
šŖThat is so awful. Do you think these kids had the jabs or were exposed to parents who had the jabs? I don't know many people who had their children get the vax.
Oh wow, that is terribly sad š
I know someone who was involved with testing AI in a health care setting, and they told me that AI outperformed doctors because when presented with new evidence, AI can change its mind, while doctors tend to believe they are infallible and couldn't possibly have been wrong.
Two years ago without the help of AI, I literally diagnosed my brotherās rare diabetic conditionādiabetic amyotrophyāin about 10 minutes using simple searches on the internet, after my brother had spent 8 days in the hospital getting every test the neurologist could think of. The specialist finally told my brother that he couldnāt figure out what was wrong with him and he should get a second opinion from another neurologist. On top of that, I had to explain to his primary doctor that he wasnāt getting enough gabapentin to make a dent in his pain. Again using just internet searches, I quickly learned that the therapeutic dose for diabetic amyotrophy was 1800 mg per day, not the 300 mg his doc had prescribed. If you have a decent brain in your head, AI is unnecessary, IMO, and probably downright dangerous.
Well, it seems like @JeffChilders was correct, that AI is to the medical establishment what the printing press was to the theological establishment. Both shed light on the self-interested corruption of those two massively powerful institutions, and in both cases, the cockroaches scattered when the light came on.
In a way, I think that the entire Covid experience has one very big silver lining, which is that people are now thinking for themselves and doing their own research. I had a heart attack last summer at age 63, which I suspect had some relationship to the two Covid shots that I regrettably got (but I canāt prove it), and while sitting in the hospital bed waiting to get my stents, and for quite a few days afterwards, I did some research on my own (because, after all, itās not like I was very free to go anywhere else or do anything very substantive). One thing that I found was that there is a gout medication called colchicine that apparently has a remarkable anti-inflammatory effect on the interior of oneās arteries, and also that arterial inflammation is what causes the buildup of plaque within the arteries (NOT cholesterol, as the pharmaceutical industry would like us to believe - blaming cholesterol for plaque is like blaming the presence of firemen on your block when your neighborās house is burning down - you are blaming part of the solution, rather than the underlying cause). I mentioned this to my cardiologist, who was not going to prescribe it for me, and he told me that his practice had started prescribing it for some patients about eight months prior to that time. He looked at my blood tests, and said that I was a candidate, and I have been taking it ever since. But had I not done that research and mentioned it to him, I wouldnāt have the benefit of that drug. Everyone needs to do their own research, and be their own advocate, because most doctors tend to be very rushed for time, and therefore highly dependent upon a standard protocol that may or may not be beneficial to you. There are roughly 8 billion people on this planet, which means that there are roughly 8 billion different physiologies, along with 8 billion different sets of environmental factors and health histories. Standard protocols are the lazy way out of medicine, in my opinion.
Well stated, Paul, I agree wholeheartedly! You rightly stated that there are 8 billion physiologies on Earth, and no oneās immune system or physiological processes are exactly the same as anybody elseās. So this idea that one-size-fits-all when it comes to doses for vaccines, chemotherapy drugs, hormone blockers for breast cancers, etcā¦ Thatās just a bunch of bunk, and I canāt believe that the majority of physicians donāt seem to be smart enough to realize that on their own. Or, perhaps they know it, but their hands are tied by insurance companies, medical associations and licensing boards. Or worse yet, they just donāt care.
Interesting....makes sense.
Yes my Cleveland Clinic doctor would type away on her computer and I'm sure that computer spit out my diagnosis.
Bingo. šÆšÆšÆ
You took the words out of my mouth!
"Standard of care" means do this to check the box and prevent a lawsuit.
In medicine, lawsuits are nearly always settled long before they get to court. It's not a myth; It's simply a cost of doing business
They probably do have the data and it shows that it works way better than the crap and protocols they are pushing.
When I read about doctors not being trusted, I can't help but comment that, the more educated practically worship the healthcare system.
Veterinarians for example. We ARE doctors. We learn basically the same things that physicians do....and YET, most of my colleagues run to the physician every time they get a sniffle....when they are likely perfectly capable of diagnosing their own ills.
I smashed my thumb a couple of months back. Hurt like hell....did I run to the ER? Nope, clicked an x-ray under a kitten named Gimp and discovered my fracture phalange.
When I get a respiratory issue, I sure as HELL don't run to the doctor, so I can catch even more.....I self medicate. Vets used to be big self medication proponents.....then something changed.
Now vets are all about experts and specialists. Most vets refer out things that we used to do regularly....they don't even trust their own education or experience anymore. It's ridiculous....if you want to know why veterinary care has exponentially increased in price....it's this new rush to emulate human medical systems. It's frightening.
I'm 61. I've been practicing for almost 30 years......our profession is making bad choices right now. I don't have the power to fix it....I am spitting in the wind. The liberal educators infiltrated vet schools as well. Sorry Fido, you will reap the dubious outcome.
Veterinary establishment is compromised too. My pets get a titers test once a year to prove they got antibodies and that's it. No vaxx for my furbaby.
Is it ridiculously expensive? You do it annually? Does the state accept the information for rabies, etc? I am asking because I am considering that avenue.
About $150 for the test. I have the vet give my chihuahua a full check up too. I get a letter from him stating she's healthy and no shots needed. All in all about $300 for total visit. Most importantly - no vaxxes or shots for my dog and the vet makes money too. No one has pushed back.
I only have 1 dog now, I had 4. I will probably switch to that as long as my dog is protected from the government
what state Annie?
South Carolina and Pennsylvania.
Rabies vaccine is still generally required - depends on state as to how often. There have been trials to try to cut back on how often the rabies vaccine is necessary but don't know the results. Problem is that rabies can be transferred to humans and is generally is fatal if not treated.
Testing from the Vets office? Yes please, more info.
I request a titers test in lieu of a vaxx. My dog is 14 years old. I only go to vets that are okay with a full check up and a titers test. I mention my other dog passed away from complications from the rabies shot too. The letter from my vet attesting to sufficient antibody levels and my pet's good health has been sufficient for everyone.
My previous vet did not vaccinate my older animals. The issue really is if I need to board for a few days.
That's why I get the letter from the vet. A full check up and then the titers test blood work as back up.
I am going to try. I donāt like doing it just so that my Son and I canāt go away for a few days. I can not find anyone to come out to my place and stay
I worked for a veterinarian whilst I was in college. The last thing I did on my last day of work was to help the vet stitch up his teenage son, who had suffered a glancing blow from an axe whilst he was chopping wood. Why go to the ER when you have everything you need right at hand?
Mrs. "the Knife"
About 40 yrs ago, our small town vet saved my mom. Our cat had bitten her arm and it was terribly infected so he gave her an antibiotic and made her soak her arm, in the hottest (gold) Dial soap water she could handle, 3-4 times a day. Iāve used that same technique a couple times since.
My dad was a vet and the best doctor Iāve ever seen . And , he thought outside the box and really tried to get results and preserve quality of life . It seems we are often missing the big picture . Like my mom says , itās like healthcare is an octopus with no head. Each specialist is an arm and no one coordinates the care or sees the whole person
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