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Sunnydaze's avatar

Just to clear up confusion. There is no such thing as QAnon. There is Q who posts on the channel. No one know who Q actually is. Then there is the Anon; that is anonymous. Those are the researchers who dig into whatever Q posts to understand meaning. Anons also research all of fake media and expose their lies and their evil stuff.

I’m not saying if Q is real or a psyop. And the psyop could go either way, really. A whole population of people could be getting duped in a huge way. OR the psyop is keeping the deep state triggered and panicked.

It is curious that Trump is seemingly legitimizing Q recently in different ways. Is he playing around with the DS to trigger them, or is he communicating with a lot of researchers who have connected the dots? Idk.

I’m watching 👀 closely to see where this goes. If anywhere. Honestly I hope it’s real. Just not hanging my forever plan on it 😂

I think it’s hilarious though, that the media can’t even get the description of it correct. 😂 They are such fools. They are panicking over something they don’t even understand. Or are they? Or are they pretending to not understand? Are they trying to smear a movement that isn’t conspiracy theory after all? 🤔

Right out of a sci-fi thriller novel! Nobody REALLY knows……or do they? 😂 😳 😬

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

Excellent. And remember Ghosts In The Machine…military psychological warfare. It has been going on for a lot longer than we thought. But it is very real.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And not just military; surely the CIA (and whomever) use the same tactics.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

There is a new voice in the Q WWG1WGA team --- (for those unfamiliar with the acronym “Where We Go 1 We Go All” is a motto adopted by Q from the Ridley Scott movie: White Squall, Jeff Bridges, Caroline Goodall... the plot, a coming of age film of teen high school boys who elected to experience for credit a training voyage ocean academy aboard a square rigged sailing Brigantine vessel, “the Albatross.” The school intended to impart a discovery of discipline and camaraderie, unfortunately tested during a rare catastrophic storm event called “a white squall”... their motto was WWG1WGA.

The new voice in this movement is Derick Johnson, a country music singer songwriter army veteran who was unheard of until mid August 2022 when he did a tell all video claiming Trump is still commander in chief based on military law and several statutes. He has amassed a half million followers astonishingly since his debut video, and is currently on tour with speaking engagements to spread this message to others.

Derick’s message is when the National Guard are Activated to Federal Duty aka Federalizing, it’s an act only the President can do; Quote — “When 35,000 plus Troops arrived in the Foreign Territory by Law, District of Columbia, which has its own seal, motto, and constitution, it showed President Trump used Executive Order 13919, Title 10, Title 32, 10 US Code 246, 10 US Code 12406, Insurrection Act of 1807, Presidential Emergencies Act, Stafford Act, and 47 US Code 606 titled War Powers of the President to EXTEND his power as President via the Constitution of 1787.”

All 50 states National Guard have been active since January 6 and 17, 2021… the ORDERS have not been rescinded. 😎🇺🇸”

So Jeff and team Coffee and Covid… this growing Derick Johnson movement gaining followers is the rest of the reportedly unknown story of Q to my knowledge thus far.

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KarenQ's avatar

Here’s a great intro to Q for beginners by Praying Medic. You may know him as one of the most sensible Q decoders

https://www.bitchute.com/video/TO6OM01ATNzL/

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John Bugni's avatar

Praying Medic is the greatest!

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Kim Goodwin's avatar

I love Praying Medic. X22 report always has praying medic as a guest speaker or he references a lot of his posts.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

If Trump's still in charge of the military, that means Afghanistan is on him. Along with the castration of our soldiers.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

I had so many “but if so... how come” countless current events questions myself that I can’t verify or validate Derick’s claim (s) whatsoever... in fact it all sounds so unlike anything to my knowledge that has ever occured in our history I’m not sure what to think, other than, we as citizens have experienced so many never in history events since January 2020, how to we clarify any of it? Stopping a presidential election at 7:30 pm, ( when has that EVER HAPPENED???) Masks, lockdowns, essential businesses, doctors censored, people censored, doctors killing people forced by NIH, WHO, CDC protocols, global forced shots, mega dollars to hospitals for check off lists on Covid, the list of never before in our history is so unconscionable, so much of it so absolutely unconstitutional... I’m at a loss other than a total global coup...

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RunningLogic's avatar

And moreover done so OPENLY!!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Qtards - the gift that just keeps on ... something.

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Kim Goodwin's avatar

What if you're wrong... Maybe you are the Tard!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Ouch - that hurt so bad, maybe I'll accidentally fall off the flat Earth, and then become the first man to actually land on the Moon! LOL

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I watched about 10-12 mins of this idiot. I think the reason he was separated from the military might’ve been severe paranoid delusion coupled with extremely low IQ making him unfit for duty.

Utter stupidity.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Could be... just pointing the guy out to others...

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Will Christenson's avatar

it is very obviously a psyop

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Sunnydaze's avatar

If you’ve spent any time digging into it, that isn’t so obvious. Have you read the board?Have you researched anything that was posted? If so, has it opened your eyes to things the govt wants hidden? It has opened the eyes of a lot of people. If nothing else, it has caused a lot of people to wake up out of their slumber and research things for themselves rather than believe the mockingbird media lies. Don’t be so quick to dismiss something. But, it could be a psyop; directed at who remains to be seen. 😉

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Freebird's avatar

Thanks for your insights on this Sunny, you did a nice job of explaining. I can’t say that I’ve dug into anything, but of course I’ve read some and heard a lot about it. Much of it sounded so far fetched that I was inclined to dismiss it as Psyop. But that was before the story of Jeffrey Epstein broke. That sordid bit of information made me rethink things. In a world where that can happen, who knows what else is going on? And a good anon would probably say all of that was exposed by “white hats”. So I’m with you…it may sound ridiculous, but I won’t write it off yet.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thank you. 😊

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Jeff C's avatar

Thanks for the comments Sunnydaze. My suspicion is it's a psyop or perhaps just someone messing with a lot of people. Q presents him/herself as some sort of an oracle and never seems to say things clearly but almost always as some sort of puzzle. What's the point, why not speak clearly? In addition, Q's pronouncements about Russiagate and the "white hats" (of which there turned out to be none) were clearly wrong.

BTW, Will's drive-by comment where he presents an opinion as fact without a shred of corresponding evidence is very similar to Q's tactics. Seems intended to rile people up rather than inform.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I’ve wondered a lot why the puzzles? Why not just say it. It’s frustrating. However, if the whole point of it is to get people to research and dig and find information out then Q just saying stuff would be dismissed easily as fake news, propaganda, or whatever. By throwing out questions and puzzle type questions it causes people to dig and find answers. For generations of people who have relied solely on main stream media to spoon feed us info that we believe without questioning…this seems the better alternative. I for one research now. I investigate way more than I ever have.

Curious how you know there are no “white hats”?

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

I am with you Sunnydaze. I question everything now and do my own research!!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Why the puzzles? Why did Christ used allegorical parables to make many of his key points? I suggest the underlying reasons are very similar.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I absolutely agree!! Good point!

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Kim Goodwin's avatar

That is a fantastic point. Christ spoke in parables which to me are like puzzles. I have to dig and pull out the meaning. Very similar to Q.

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Freebird's avatar

Suspect that Will is a troll.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I have. I live with someone who found Q around 2018. I've heard it all, step by step. When I ask reasonable questions in regards to "it has to get really bad before people will believe". What are we going to do with the millions of illegals, terrorists, drug cartels, murderers/rapists, kidnappers, ex-prisoners, etc, flowing over our border? Isn't millions of deaths and disabilities enough from this killer vax and the illegal drugs coming in? Is all this just collateral damage? What about the physical and psychological damage that's happening to our children and young adults, from crappy education, to transgenderism, LGBTQRST+ to obscene sex acts being taught in schools? Our corrupt HHS has declared the average American who disagrees with the government is now considered a DVE (Domestic Violent Exemists). This doesn't even touch on the debacle in Afghanistan (until that time, Trump was supposed to be still in charge of the military...oops!) or the "war" in Ukraine (what's it up to now? $100 BILLION PLUS weapons and equipment?), the crashing economy, bankrupted small businesses, gas, rent, grocery prices skyrocketing? (This winter is gonna be interesting, especially for people in the North.) Plans are rolling out for digital currency with digital IDs and surveillance. OTC vitamins and supplements are on the chopping block as we speak. 2A is getting closer and closer to being undone.

When's it gonna be "enough"? Why did Q suddenly disappear right before the stolen 2020 election? "Oh, Trump will be back in office by March, then May, then August..."🙄 If you look at it from a slight outside point of view, Q is hope propaganda, built to paralyze patriots into inaction while our country burns down, in front of our eyes, waiting on someone to save us. Trust the Plan. Conditions will become so bad, that people will do ANYTHING, including literally selling their soul to the devil and agreeing to the utopian promises of the One World government. Sounds kinda like what's in the Book of Revelation to me. (No, I'm not saying Trump is the Antichrist.)

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That was very well put. And you are correct about all of that too. Lots of great questions and reasonable thinking. I have no answers. The only one I think is possible is that we are indeed in the end times and as things unfold it will get worse. Leading right where the book of Revelation tells us we will go. I very much see it that way as well. The only thing I’ve been uncertain about (as well as everyone else) is the timing of Revelation and how all this plays out. I’ve often said, at what point has this gone so far we cannot undo things and fix this? I actually think we are already there. Some things just cannot be undone. And it isn’t just America we’re talking about. This is world wide destruction happening. The train left the station. I don’t think it can be shoved back in.

Thank you for posting and sharing! You said some very correct, critically thinking statements. I appreciate your take on this!

PS- I agree Trump is not the Antichrist.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

You're welcome. I know when I ask these questions, it's breaking the hold of the Q spell, but it still remains, somewhat. My spouse has always been an great optimist and full of hope despite having a long career in law enforcement. He's called me a pessimist but I think I'm just more of a realist at this point. Q did get people to wake up and look at our govt more closely, tho.

I think Q fits with this 'rule' the Luciferians apparently have that they must inform us of their plans. I guess all the movies, tv shows and novels weren't working sufficiently. LOL!

I believe the answer to stopping this runaway train is held in

2 Chron 7:13-14 - "When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14 *if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.*" The vast majority of people will need to find/turn back to God. Will that happen? If things get bad enough, maybe they will. But the alternative of taking the easier way and submitting to the evil forces (by taking the mark) seems more likely. We'll see. I can only worry about myself and my actions, at this point. No one will be beside me on Judgement day.

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LizardFro's avatar

“Q is hope propaganda” I think that’s a good summary.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I prefer to remain on the edge of wondering..........

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YYR's avatar

Yes, I have dug into it, read the original posts. Psyop.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ok. That’s great. You are entitled to your take on it. It’s nice to hear you researched it before coming to your conclusion. I’m not even saying you are wrong 🤷‍♀️ I’m just staying neutral for reasons I already described.

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Kim Goodwin's avatar

Sunnydaze, you are so right. My eyes were opened wide by following the Q posts. I researched it too and connected the dots and Wow!

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Susan Stephens's avatar

I’ve been told Q doesn’t reveal all bc that informs the enemy too. No general would give the enemy forces the plan.

Makes sense to me.

I’m cautious here; guess I’m hoping Q is true & will purge the Deep State who detest America & our freedoms (we used to have).

We must get rid of big Federal govmint!

That socialism. Most aren’t willing to cut the$$$ strings. We are violating our constitution with every step our Feds take & $$ spent.

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John Bugni's avatar

Yes, but who us it aimed at and what is the intended result?

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PermieGeek's avatar

I believe it is a psych-op as well--designed to take all the legitimate data about things like Epstein and get a bunch of people to do nothing but "Trust the Plan" and a bunch of others to think they are bat-shit crazy and not listen to anyone talking about child-sex trafficking by the powerful, chalking it up to conspiracy talk. Meaning there is lots of truth being told to get people on the ship and some untruth to turn the ship in the wrong direction.

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PA's avatar

The "media" don't understand ANYTHING! They are experts at nothing, have zero common sense, and are the least patriotic. Which is ironic since the only reason they get to spew their mimicking tribble is because of the founding principles and people!!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Hence, I called them fools. 😉 And I was wearing my “be nice and love others” hat when I typed it. 😂 😂

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John Bugni's avatar

Well put.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I had some of these thoughts. Thanks, you are more articulate than I.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

Thank you for clarifying. I always wondered about it!

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Tasha's avatar

There is no Qanon. There is Q and there are the anons. The best way to describe it is Q is like an excellent teacher who doesn’t just spit facts at the students he drops subjects and rhetorical questions on an 8chan board. The anons are the students who go research everything and come together to share their findings and put together a logical conclusion. It is genius and has opened the eyes of many who were asleep. The media and FBI hate this movement because it is exposing them a lot! As with everything else, they are putting fear in people so they won’t go near this and learn the truth. It is not a cult and there is definitely no chance of violence. Hope that helps!

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Kelly's avatar

That is giving them a LOT more credit then they are due.

Anons read some Nostradamous-like "prediction" from Q, and the anons run around like crazy to try to come up with SOMETHING that means SOMETHING that...never comes to pass.

They have been waiting since before Trump got on his last flight home, for the military to "take charge and reinstate Trump as our true president!" When it didnt happen, it was pushed to a later date. Then another later date. Then yet another later date. Kinda like all those crazies waiting on specific dates for the Lord to return.

They are called Qtards for a reason.

Oh! And if you call them out on all this, they give a crypic answer that you just havent been around long enough to SEE what "predictions" they made that came true. They never ever say WHICH came true, how long AFTERWARDS it came true, or any proof that it was predicted beforehand.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Sounds like you have followed some anons who weren’t credible themselves. There is a lot of chaotic info out there on both sides purposefully trying to deceive everyone. Evil thrives with the chaos it creates. Not every anon is due credibility. That’s one of the frustrations. Who do you trust as your source of info? That’s rhetorical.

I’ve checked in on some anons that are exactly as you described. And I hit the delete button as it is obvious they haven’t a clue. But I’ve also checked in on a few others who have credibility and do not do what you are describing. This is the where WE need to do our homework and research. Not be spoon fed. Wake up. Face reality. Gut check time. Not everything is a conspiracy THEORY.

There are some conspiracies that are just that; CONSPIRACY. And they have led to a country being destroyed. The CIA coined the term conspiracy theory back in the day when regular people (anons?) started questioning the narrative. Long before I did. They squashed that little pesky truth bug right where it stood. Mission accomplished for decades!

Now, the people are awakening out of their slumber.

This is just what I see happening. Still not saying if Q is real or a psyop. Everyone can choose for themselves. But I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water, yet. 🤷‍♀️

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Tasha's avatar

This is a very good explanation. Of course there are idiots who believe in the crazy predictions. The good book warned us of false prophets. There are many others who who research the information for themselves and discern what is good and what may not be so good.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

This explanation between the 3 of you was very helpful! Thank you Tasha, Kelly and Sunnydaze.

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Johnny-O's avatar

That's often how psyops work. Created by shadow gov and then real people join who do not know any better (useful idiots perhaps) which then in turn make it more real and credible.

I think both your hypothesis and deep state psyop are both very real possibilities.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, agree. People think that because they can 'google' a topic, or that some influencer that yaks on a YT channel, that's all they need to know. Step 2 is to evaluate the information and the source of the information. To ask more questions. To see if this information is consistent from different sources. To vet the authors. I spent a couple of months lurking around on those Q sites. Did get some good info, had never heard of FlightAware or CISA before. But trying to vet what some of these people posted was like nailing jello to the wall. Or trying to put a jigsaw puzzle together with only half of the pieces, and no cover picture to look at. You will find some pieces to put together, but you will never get the whole picture.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Step three is to attempt to follow the money: Who benefits when a particular viewpoint is accepted and adopted?

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John Bugni's avatar

That is by design. The picture cannot be fully revealed prematurely: too much at stake. Did you know this phenomenon had it's genesis with the JFK asssasination and it's cover-up?

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well I watched JFK Revisited about 6 months ago and amazed at how much fraud and cover up there was. Bottom line, 'question everything' is definitely in order.

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John Bugni's avatar

I agree. Kelly knows not fully of what she speaks. Better to be quiet and observe than go off half-cocked.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Qanon is likely controlled op, created by permanent state actors.

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Martha's avatar

And I think the current Q propaganda is to get people to conflate Q with MAGA and affirm the Domestic Violent Extremist storyline...

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CMCM's avatar

Exactly!

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Politico Phil's avatar

I'm always amused by popular predictions. I'm 71 and for as long as I can remember people have been predicting the "end times". Remember Hal Lindsey's "The Late Great Planet Earth" circa 1970? That was SO popular. The JW's have repetitively been date setting "the end" throughout their history. So far, perfect track record. Not picking on anybody. Just saying this has always been a popular pastime for the public.

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SadieJay's avatar

That is what I always heard growing up. I am just keeping my eyes on Israel. THAT will be the big tell. But, be ready. Just in case.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Nostradamus...YES. The chatterings of Q and the interpretations from the Anons all have a very Nostradamus-like smell about them. A person could make the quatrains of Nostradamus mean anything. Same with Q. In my view, it's just a PsyOp to waste people's time (who otherwise may do something productive in how they defy TPTB) and/or a honey pot to lure people online, then TPTB can track and trace who's talking about it or who is believing it. Just MHO, but what do I know? I'm no military intelligence or 3-letter agency officer.

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KarenQ's avatar

Those are the nut jobs, otherwise known as shills. No one with an ounce of sense, including the legit Anons pay attention. I can point you to plenty of guys who do hard research, expose the criminals throughout history and lead us to what is going on today.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

sounds a bit like the end of the world according to some religious groups?

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Donna in MO's avatar

I wandered into Q world for a while in 2020 when I had a lot of free time on my hands. To me it was an interesting mixed bag of people who were very thorough diggers/dot connectors who shared some great information and then there were those with some pretty wild stuff with kind of sketchy or little documentation. And I came to think Q was more than one person, and likely leading some kind of psy-op. Lots of rules on the board and hard to follow the threads that went all over the place. I never posted, just lurked and got bored with it. And yes, predictions that were mostly so vague they could mean anything.

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Freebird's avatar

Don’t think I ever followed it as closely as you Donna, but it’s been an intriguing phenomenon and hard for inquiring minds to resist! 😂. However, the bad predictions and all-out craziness drove me away from getting too caught up in it. That, and not wanting to end up like the poor fool who was called a Q Anon Shaman with the horn headdress etc. The last I heard he was still rotting in prison for the major crime of just being an idiot. A very harmless idiot. The whole J6 debacle seemed like an entrapment of Trump supporters, no doubt planned and executed by the likes of Ray Epps et al.

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Yarrow's avatar

Q: "OK y'all, the cavalry will be coming any moment now to save us. Just sit tight and wait for it."

Anons: "Yay, we're saving the country by sitting on our duffs sharing arcane 'clues' to the big Scooby mystery, and hitting "like" on each other's posts! Go us!"

How many years has the cavalry been minutes away, now?

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

My fave Q theory: DJT had a secret watermark printed on the *real* ballots so the military could swoop in and catch all the fake ones.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

(Nevermind the fact that election ballots aren’t printed by the federal govt, but instead by the states.)

Q: oh....

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Yep. It reminds me of the Iraqi Dinar conspiracists back in the early 2000’s. Any minute now, the Dinar would be revalued, and all the ppl who bought in would be BILLIONAIRES.

LOL.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Actually that’s not even close at all as to what has been said. 😂 Sounds like you’ve been listening to msm. 😉

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John Bugni's avatar

Do you fully understand the art of war? DJT does.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

But the genius who us playing 5D chess was "tricked" by Fauci and company? And how many of "the swamp" were removed? For someone that understands the art of war, he sure did trust and surround himself with the wrong people.

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John Bugni's avatar

The final chapter has not been written yet.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

— Hebrews 12:1-3

Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing….Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.

— James 1:2-4, 12

NASB1995

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

"Evil cabal"?

Come on Jeff, you are telling me that there is a small, secretive group of people who fix elections, incite insurrections, censor free speech if it is the "wrong" speech, ban people from public places if they don't take an experimental drug that is more likely to kill or maim than help them, close access to banks to "wrong" thinking people, and then use docile law enforcement to rough up and steal the property of "wrong" thinkers, all without due process? Come on man!! Stop spreading lies and misinformation!!!

[Looks at last 50 years of newspapers]

Oh.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Had to laugh! I was thinking the same: the pot calling the kettle black situation . All illusion. Sorry if the words pot, kettle, and calling offends anyone. Again being a smart ass.

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Roger Beal's avatar

BOOM. We have an internet winner for today!

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Elaine Elias's avatar

Love this. Hope it is not tongue in cheek!

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LMWC's avatar

“Man Briefly Thinks About Something.” Best line of the week! The sheep have been conditioned to think briefly on whatever media clickbait is the soup of the day.

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Freebird's avatar

😂😂😂 I loved that one! One of the many reasons to love C&C.

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redpilled69's avatar

Based on Jeff's description about how a President can declassify documents, I was thinking that would be a great headline to clear Trump. He thought about declassifying the documents..."Man Briefly Thinks About Something"

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Credenda's avatar

Loved it. Sounds like a headline from the Babylon Bee.

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SFC Z's avatar

You can thank "anti-social media" and specifically the Twits at Twitter for dumbing people down to the level of only the here and now and only communicating in bullet comments no more then the Twit limit of characters in length.

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SB's avatar

I respectfully have to disagree with you about the failed journalism 101. I think they know exactly what they are doing. I've seen in other news reports that the left is expecting one of the worst turnouts ever in Nov. I think they are spouting nonsense like those Trump stories to try to keep the Trump hate alive and well for the left. They are getting really desperate for votes. News I saw this morning reports Stacy Abrams is losing the black vote. For now, she's at 79% still but needs 90% to win but black men and black moms despise her so I expect that 79% is going to drop. Thus, call in the Trump derangement syndrome articles, remind those people why they hate Trump and republicans so much.

Cult? The whole trans thing is a cult. A way out of control cult mutilating children. 10 minutes ago, people would've been put in jail for what health care workers are doing to these kids. What happened to the Doctor's oath: Do no harm?

Thanks for all the good one liners today!

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Fla Mom's avatar

They do see which way things are going for 2022 and 2024, which is why they're trying to change the rules about how we elect Presidents. And they might succeed. This bill is co-sponsored by Democrat Zoe Lofgren and "Republican" (lol) Liz Cheney, and that's all I needed to know to know that it must be pure poison. It now goes to the Senate, after spending about 48 hours between introduction and passage in the House.

H.R.8873 - Presidential Election Reform Act

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8873/text

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Martha's avatar

$64,000 question: Will UniParty Mitch allow it to come to a vote in the Senate?

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Fla Mom's avatar

If the Democrats can enforce 100% discipline, they don't need any Republican votes.

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Martha's avatar

This isn't a budget reconciliation bill. Won't they still need sixty votes for cloture/passage?

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Fla Mom's avatar

Thanks, I stand corrected, though nothing would surprise me less than to see just enough Republicans join with Democrats on this anti-Trump legislation, which is why Susan Collins' comments about cooperation between them are so disturbing. The compromises only ever go one way.

"In the Senate, ... only a simple majority is required to pass legislation, but before a vote on final passage can even take place, a vote of three-fifths of the Senate (60 of 100) is required to invoke cloture and end debate. Without 60 votes to invoke cloture, any Senator can block or delay action on legislation by filibustering – debating at length, offering numerous procedural motions, or even reading bedtime stories. This means that, in practice, 60 votes are needed to move forward in the Senate.

"There are some exceptions to the 60-vote threshold for “executive business,” namely executive and judicial branch nominations. In 2013, the cloture rules were reinterpreted to allow a simple majority vote to move forward on some nominations and, in 2017, the simple majority requirement was extended to Supreme Court nominations.

"For the most part, “legislative business” is still subject to a 60-vote threshold to end debate and move forward to final passage, but there’s another key exception ... – budget reconciliation."

https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2021/01/25/senate-voting-rules-and-budget-reconciliation-explained/

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Martha's avatar

"though nothing would surprise me less than to see just enough Republicans join with Democrats on this anti-Trump legislation"

My fear exactly!

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daverkb's avatar

The irony of the times is that 'knowing exactly what they are doing' is now ... their UNDOING! (It's just all has gotten too lunatic unbelievable.)

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Gary's avatar

Just watched a Tucker Carlson piece. I agree in the Biden bunch simply wants to topple Putin. This whole thing is about the left, the WEF, globalism, one world government. Putin does not want a one world system. I think that is the root cause of this whole thing. I don't believe China does either. Guess who is going to lose. The "West" is going to sanction itself right into cold isolation, broken, beaten, and disgraced because of the elites. They are crazy.

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M VARR's avatar

The Biden admin wants to topple Putin...

AND

destroy Western European Civilization in the process.

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Credenda's avatar

Is that because they are really WEF types at heart and see catastrophic events as necessary to usher in their Grand Reset?

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OnTheJump's avatar

Difficult to figure out WHAT putin wants - he seems to pull strings from behind the curtain, but he appears to pretty much toe the line with the NWO script, and who knows exactly WHAT his relationship is with the WEF, tedros and k. schwab.

Tucker doing a good job shining some light on topics and issues most do NOT want to know/hear about. ( the USA did WHAT ?! NOOooo!! ) Is the US engaged in a proxy war, ukraine as a pawn? Seems so. The rand corporation (us think tank) published a research brief suggesting ways to exploit russia's "vulnerabilities.".

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daverkb's avatar

Mostly, China is for China. Russia is for Russia as is India for India. None of these countries will self-immolate themselves on the pyre of a Globalist Techno-Tyranny. All three, according to a favorite shibboleth of the West, 'are too big to fail'. In their fits of mad hubris, the Western Woke NATO Globalists failed to grasp this simple truth. And simply said, it is a myth that 'they are all in on it'.

The Plandemic and the Ukraine proxy war were the last straws in a decades long train of abuse. These two operations have convinced the rest of the world that the West is out of control crazy and a dictatorial menace to the planet. And they, the non-West, want nothing to do with this Globalist inspired madness. And so, the non-West is now walking away from all of it ... BECAUSE THEY CAN.

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Lisa's avatar

Putin got his country out of the central bank system over a year ago. That’s definitely not going along with NWO. Along with others things he has done it seems to me he is not towing the line with great reset/NWO.

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daverkb's avatar

Exactly! And if the Woke Western Marxist Power won this 'inspiring' Brave New World adventure in the Ukraine, accomplished all of its 'aims', what would we get out of it? More of the same blood sucking living nightmare!

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Gary's avatar

I wonder what it would be like to have solid honest leadership? What a nice dream. You always ask yourself how these types of people get to those positions.

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daverkb's avatar

President George Washington was the best respected president of them all. I remember that one leading American of the day said of Washington, "He had the best judgment of us all." I have often wished I could have remember who said it. Also, the very first few presidents were very honorable men overall. I am sure there were a handful or more that were okay fellows.

Ronald Reagan a decent man and might have been a decent president, but things were already too far gone for Reagan to have done much. As it was, a friend of mine asked Reagan why he did not do this or that. And Reagan replied, "They wouldn't let me." This was after the assassination attempt and this says it all for me. Plus add in Hinckley's father, I believe, was CIA. I'd have to check on that, but I'm pretty sure that there was a connection.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I watched a documentary that eluded to the assassination attempt on him was done by the CIA. Hinkley was a convenient scapegoat. Who knows?

My issue with Reagan is the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that absolved vax manufacturers of any liability for their vaccines, transferring that responsibility to the US taxpayer. Such a deal!

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Gary's avatar

Yes, and the way they have gone after Trump, Bannon, Flynn, on and on. I am not sure what will happen, but I believe it is going to get ugly.

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Lisa P's avatar

I agree with all of this except the part about toppling Putin. They say that's what they want, but they also need to keep Putin around as a boogeyman and someone to blame the lack of energy and depression on (even though most don't buy it).

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daverkb's avatar

This is how 'we' think. But what 'they' want is control of Russia ... and very likely the break up of Russia into even easier to control pieces as was once posited in the Brzezinski era. And additionally, the Woke Crowd can always manufacture a boogeyman, out of thin air. This is what they do.

Our enemy is the Woke Western Establishment which daily feeds upon our flesh while endeavoring to consume the world.

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Lisa P's avatar

I 100% agree with you about who our enemy is. As for boogeyman, I'm referring to a boogeyman to justify military spending. The woke crowd's boogeyman will always be anyone who disagrees with them - even Bill Maher.

We did control Russia in the 90s via Boris Yeltsin. All of that ended when Putin took over and Russia has been demonized ever since, except for the 4 year stint of Medvedev, who is now firmly on Putin's side. Despite what we were told over the past 8 years, Russia did very little to help the Donbass republics. The point of taking over Ukraine in 2014, aside from money laundering, was to further reduce Putin's connection with Europe - eliminate a major trading partner, essentially isolate Russia from its neighbors. I say 'They' don't want to topple Putin because they know how difficult if not impossible that would be. The best they can do is control Putin's neighbors and isolate them, again the reason we fomented a coup in Ukraine.

I 100% agree with what you said further up in the thread. We squandered our position as sole superpower. Instead of making stronger alliances, we've left scorched earth and a lot of frenemies in our wake.

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daverkb's avatar

We in the main very much agree.

As to 2014, my read is that Russia was still too weak to take on the Western Woke Establishment head-on. Seven to eight years later to the present day made all the difference in terms of strenght in commodity and industrial development, not to mention a breathtaking strengthening of the Federation's financial institutions. All along the Putin road of recovery and rebuilding, I'd have to say the timing has been brilliant.

I'm still sticking with the view, though not set in stone, that the Western Complex ... maybe particularly the political people ... grossly miscalculated. The Lunatic Political Establishment, particularly the Washington establishment, really believed that sanctioning would crash the rouble and so distress the Russian economy as to cause regime change, the stick they been doing for decades here and there around the world. Wall Street and the Fed told them not to go this route, but they picked the fight and did it anyway. Remember! These are the same crackpot people who believe in MMT (Modern Monetary Theory), trans this and that, and so on.

I personally don't think these WEF/ Globalist institutional types are all that smart. If they were, they would realize that beating people over the head and telling them any crap that comes into their head will only work so long.

Thanks for the response. I enjoyed the read.

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Gary's avatar

Well maybe they want him out to try and get to there resources. They have lots.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

THE HATRED TOWARD RUSSIANS IS INSANE - PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY REJECTED COMMUNISM AND ARE A TRADITIONAL ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN SOCIETY???

RUSSIAsteria: Best Putin Invades Ukraine Memes (Vlad Takes Off the Gloves!)

- Ready to "cover Ukraine like a carpet," barking Chihuahua Latvia nips at Russia, what Europe looks like to everyone, and more Putin invades Ukraine memes as Russia finally takes off the gloves!

https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/putin-invades-ukraine-memes-vlad-removes-gloves

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daverkb's avatar

The biggest crime in all of Woke-ism/Marxism is Christianity because Christianity is a competing religion. That is, there can be no god tolerated greater than the state and the demi-gods who administer the state. These same atheistic buggers, however, will tolerate pliable Fake Christianity and its Fake Churches which shutter their doors, comply with all the totalitarian mandates, and go to slaughter without a bleat of protest.

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Elaine Elias's avatar

As Always I wait with anticipation C&C every day. And when it comes later than usual I panic. Love you, Jeff.

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Granny Annie's avatar

I agree! My morning C&C has become just as necessary as my morning caffeine and nicotine - can't start the day without it! Love you, too, Jeff! <3

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Kelly's avatar

I didnt get mine yesterday. I was getting kinda worried. Then I finally followed links and found it.

No word on why it didnt come my way yesterday, but I suspect I wasnt the only one. *shrugs*

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Credenda's avatar

For the first time ever, I found mine in my spam folder yesterday. But it’s back in my regular mail now. Little things like that don’t help my paranoia tendencies.😛

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Kelly's avatar

I just looked again, and it WAS in my spam. When I checked yesterday, I got a weird message that said something like, "there is nothing to see in here that anybody would want to see", and it was empty.

Today, I have a bunch in there.

Yes, it makes one a tad paranoid.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

I had a similar issues, but finally found it. Could it be our internet providers are seeing what we are supporting and stirring up issues with our computers?? Just a thought!!

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Same here just now - no email... Had to look under community to find the link... Not sure what is going on???

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I haven’t received my C&C email in months. Always have to go to the app and hunt for it.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

I don't use gmail etc for it as they might flag or send to spam... I suspect there might also be an issue or bug at Substack's end for some people... Jeff also uses the Magazine format which I find confusing...

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Dr Linda's avatar

Mine was really late. I was concerned and disappointed as well.

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refusenick's avatar

Mine went to the spam folder

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Kelly's avatar

I checked there. Not a thing. :(

Thanks for letting me know, tho! I will keep that in mind in the future.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I hate it when I have something to do right at that time and have to wait until later in the day to read C&C!

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Scott Kinghorn's avatar

Yes. As of late I sometimes have to search for the newest edition as it doesn't arrive in my mail or spam. Not sure what's going on??

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Same and its not in my spam folder either.....

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Dr Linda's avatar

Same

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Eli's avatar

Some more good Covid news from Wall Street Journal: even people who were all excited about the third shot are not rushing out to get the fourth bigger and better shot. Also, some Republicans in Congress are trying to end the infernal state of emergency.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I am thrilled to know this bit of information. However, The end of the state of emergency should have happened many, many says ago. Probably it shouldn’t have been legitimized in tge first, it had to happen for this entire situation to proceed. Did these folks just wake up? I feel abandoned by the people who are now seeming to care.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Spoke to my brother yesterday, he proudly chortled that he and his wife are all boosted up. I told him he was an idiot 🤣 We do talk to each other like that from time to time. Seriously though, I am super worried. I think I have my parents convinced to not even take the flu shot. We’ll see.

They are almost 90 and going down hill fast mentally, and yesterday mom had a really bad bladder and kidney infection, so they are ‘back in the system’ and will probably be talked into more boosts in the coming weeks.

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Linda A's avatar

I hear you Karen. My mom is 88 and stepdad is 85. Pops just does whatever the guy/gal in the white coat and stethoscope says. Mom was talked into the jab by neighbors and other “wiser” family members. She just agrees with whoever she listened to last, and I was so outnumbered. So far neither of them have gotten boosters. I keep them away from docs and hospital as much as possible! Look for a functional medicine practitioner. Keep them away from pharma-owned “doctors”. In my opinion, they are nothing but pharma reps pushing drugs.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I’ve been following Died Suddenly News. I need to stop, way too many injury and death stories and I’m having horrible thoughts and intense worry.

We really can only try to stay on top of this, keep talking to them, I’m glad your folks haven’t taken the boosters.

I wish I could get mine to a functional medicine doc.

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YYR's avatar

Republicans in Congress are trying to end elections so they never have to make good on their empty promises. This, after their complete dereliction the past two years. 🤬

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FedUpDeb's avatar

Did Q tell you that?

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Elaine Elias's avatar

WHAT?

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Alison Smith's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Janet's avatar

I will be praying the do end this or move the rock to a tipping point.

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Lidia's avatar

I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your daily real news commentary, humor with a healthy dose of sarcasm. I'm freshly retired, so I have time for my mornings coffee. It wouldn't be nearly as much fun without your C&C. Today I almost ended up with umbillical hernia laughing at the lizzard-lipped chicken!

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

“If we’re going after everything that “stokes” violence, I’d suggest they take a hard look at that lunatic Kathy Griffin.” hahahahaha! 🥕🥕😵‍💫😵‍💫

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Cheryl Sutcliffe's avatar

"If it weren’t for double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all." Classic. Thanks again for calling out the massive idiocy in this world, Jeff. Have a great weekend!

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Jason's avatar

Trump. Free rent. In their heads.

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Notyours's avatar

Supply and demand. With that much empty space there, the price has to approach free.

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VeryVer's avatar

That drug dealer probably missed a sale coz he told his buyer to meet him at Logan airport….

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Julie's avatar

'A federal appeals court just struck a massive victory for freedom of speech.On Friday afternoon, in a brilliantly argued 90-page decision, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of a Texas law stopping the biggest social media companies from censoring their users". per Alex Berenson.

Could this be why FB is making some noise about reinstating Trump??

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Alison Smith's avatar

Trump also has his lawsuit against FB and Twitter making its way through the court system.

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Kelly's avatar

That's exactly what i was thinking, too.

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Barbara C. Nixon's avatar

Wonder if that "Love" tattoo under his eye was to cover a "tear" tattoo, which supposedly signals one killed someone??

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redpilled69's avatar

I saw the clip of the Hannity interview with Trump saying that Venezuela is emptying their prisons and that's who Venezuela is sending here. Based on the look of that fella and his/her/they/their rap sheet, I'd say it seems an accurate statement. Either that or he is a professional footballer...

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CMCM's avatar

Don't the compassionate residents of Martha's Vineyard want a fellow like this among them?

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