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Ruth's avatar

Today is the en banc hearing for the Feds 4 Medical Freedom (F4MF). The full panel of judges in the 5th Circuit Federal Court of Appeals will hear arguments in our suit against the mandates.

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Carrie's avatar

Praying for a win for F4MF and all federal employees!

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VeryVer's avatar

Goodness -- a lot is riding on those judges. The President just can't order people to get medical treatments, not any treatments for any reasons, it's just wrong. Although if I got fired for never getting the shot, it would be a relief somewhat as I hate it and then at least I'd have a good reason for looking for a new job --- and I'd probably get a class action settlement someday....

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Carrie's avatar

I don't see how they can mandate something that doesn't prevent infection or stop transmission. The shot is very ineffective and can cause more harm than good. How the heck can we be forced to take it?!

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Carlos Santiago's avatar

Even if it did work 100%, mandates would still be wrong.

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N Springer's avatar

One of the judges called it a treatment, not a vaccine. So I think that’s a good indication how things might go!

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CMCM's avatar

Yeah...treatment with an extinct virus.

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VeryVer's avatar

Yeah I know -- it's insane. Even more so now. If it actually worked AND the disease was so deadly that we needed a vaccine, then they wouldn't have to mandate anything -- people would want the shots and the unvaccinated would succumb to the disease. But even then I'm not in favor of governments ordering medical treatments. But at this point the DOJ is only really arguing to preserve the Presidents RIGHT to order us around.

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Carrie's avatar

Right. Hopefully, we preserve our right to decide for ourselves.

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aj's avatar

forced/coerced to take experimental treatments, not vaccines

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Martha's avatar

🙏

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RunningLogic's avatar

Praying!!

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SeeingTruth's avatar

🙏🙏🙏🙏

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Putin is actually a bad guy though.

Trump isn't.

Time to smash the mandates.

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Michael Miller's avatar

You might benefit from viewing “The Putin interviews” film by Oliver Stone. This will expose you to Putin from his own mouth as opposed to US propaganda. I was surprised and impressed. I judge him to be a serious statesman above the caliber of most US politicians.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Putin's comments about our transgender fanaticism were all I needed to hear. Imagine being unencumbered by political correctness and progressive orthodoxy? I am by no means a fan-boy, and he's probably a really evil guy. But he's not chasing bullshit political narratives, and for that he gets a hat tip from yours truly.

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Christy's avatar

Love the name!!! Means more w each passing day!

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uselesseater's avatar

And also Oliver Stone's doc Ukraine on Fire which shows us politicians and Cia stoking the fires over there

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aj's avatar

Paul Craig Roberts (.org) 9-11 article had a closing salvo at our presence in Ukraine: =][- “we have to save the liberty of Ukraine from Putin,” by which is really meant is that “we must save the Biden family’s and the Democrats’ money laundering operation in Ukraine.”

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Oliver stone's documentary was pure, unadulterated filth.

For one, he puts a lot of his personal opinions into the film. It's not a documentary, it's a hit piece.

It denies that the Ukrainians have their own history. It doesn't cover the genocide russia committed against the Ukrainians because of the failures of Communism. There's a word for it-Holodmor. Murder by hunger.

It ignores the awful history russia has in Eastern europe and denies the distinct people their own right to govern their own affairs.

People complain here about Biden forcing vaccine mandates yet praise putin who was part of a system that stole peoples' food and starved them to death. And threw them in jail for having different opinions and still does today. And ran a gulag system which saw millions die.

I didn't quite finish it, needless to say.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Oliver stones work is trash.

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Michael Miller's avatar

Oliver Stone, a multi Academy Award recipient, has created many fine and informative films, including Platoon, Born on the 4th of July, Wall Street, JFK, JFK Revisited, The Putin Interviews, Ukraine on Fire, just to name a few.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Ukraine on fire was hot, kremlin garbage.

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Lew's avatar

Thanks for that link!

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AngelaK's avatar

He is a brilliant statesman if you listen to him speak, on end, and off the cuff, without the stuttering of western politicians who speak but out of both sides of their mouth, and without really saying anything, lest they betray their WEF masters.

With Putin you clearly hear and comprehend. With western politicians you are generally left scratching your head.

Welcome to the New liberal one world order (of the west) folks!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Putin is an oligarch. He isn't a "brilliant statesman". he's an old school KGB communist. Congrats on buying into the koolaid. Why is he a multi billionaire?

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Bridget T's avatar

🤮🤮🤮

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Politico Phil's avatar

B&B, what a pair!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Facts are hard to some folks.

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Bridget T's avatar

Are we getting personal Phil?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Vladimir can't even beat a Regional power on his border with an alleged super power army.

It's hilarious.

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Notyours's avatar

Right? I mean those dumbasses couldn't take Afghanistan either!

Losers.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

How did the soviet union do in Afghanistan, again?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

A guy who made his living as a secret police for a communist state is not my idea of a good guy.

Knocking off dissidents, attacking our allies, and aligning with a lot of bad folks in the world places him as a despot and tyrant, not a good guy at all.

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Richard Hathcock's avatar

Hey Benjaminn, "Knocking off dissidents, attacking our allies, and aligning with a lot of bad folks in the world places him as a despot and tyrant, not a good guy at all." Sounds like the job description for OUR National Security Bureaus/Agencies.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

A russian and an American are arguing about who is more free when the American goes "I can go to the White house and yell "To hell with Ronald reagan"!. You can't do that in Moscow, he says.

The Russian, not to be outdone, goes out to the Kremlin and yells "To hell with Ronald Reagan!".

I can criticize Biden all day long on facebook, twitter, etc. Try doing that to Putin in Russia.

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Richard Hathcock's avatar

uhh, people have been in jail for over a year for supporting Trump. incarcerated by their own government. #PayAttention

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Politico Phil's avatar

Really really bad folks! And Zelensky is such a stalwart USG ally. Where would we be without such a good Nazi? Gee, maybe we wouldn't even be in a war...just saying.

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Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

Open to critical thinking? Perhaps we’ve been under the spell of the MSM for years & part of that was hating Russia. We have been waging wars for years not for democracy but for control. Putting in place leaders that do our bidding & blessing those countries dry. Do some research on Hati & what the Bushes & Clinton’s did to them. I don’t think Russia is any different- and Zelensky is a US puppet clown (check out videos of his comedy act) corruption is everywhere

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Politico Phil's avatar

Ah, the voice of reason. I enjoy the humor but this is much better. Well said.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Zelensky told Biden on day one of the Russian invasion he wasn't leaving. Puppets don't do that.

If we had someone who stuck up for American like he does for his Country we'd be a lot better off.

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Boze's avatar

They are all vying for power, so let's hold them ALL at a distance -- admiration is not what any of them deserve. Putin doesn't put up with the political correctness because it is not currently a method of undermining his society like it is to ours. What we have with our Western "leaders" is a choking surplus of hypocrisy and incompetence, which breeds cynicism and inertia in the people. We either rise above it and take back our People Power or lose it to scum.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Putin tolerates a lot of corruption because he directly profits off it. His net worth is somewhere around 200 billion. And it shows.

Russian forces have been unsuccessful in trying to defeat Ukraine. A small,poor nation on their border. It’s embarrassing.

They’ve lost hundreds of billions of dollars in equipment, tanks, APCs, weapons, etc. for little gain.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Tell that to Jeffrey Epstein or any of the January 6 protesters.

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Bridget T's avatar

Communists wrote the book on propaganda

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Politico Phil's avatar

You got that right. The Bolsheviks had 70 years to refine the art on the Russian people. But the Bulsheviks in Washington DC have taken it to a whole new level.

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Bridget T's avatar

Not only in Russia. My dad from Hungary was forced to stand up in class and say things he didn’t believe

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Bridget T's avatar

The only thing that’s new is where it’s being propagated, and how (using newer technologies).

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John Galt?'s avatar

If he needs a job, there's a position in the IRS that he ideally suited to fill. We clearly need more despotic dissident neutralizing bad guys in our government.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

A KGB trained Putin would make our lives miserable.

He would collaborate and ally with them.

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Johnny-O's avatar

But your benevolent leader Trump, IS a good guy! Amiright!?!? Told his good little sheeple to go get the vaccine. Remember him getting booed at a rally about this long long after the dangers of the shots were known. But yeah, keep drinking that koolaid you keep talking about.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And he never made anyone take it. That's what this entire blog is about. He never mandated anyone. He encouraged it, sure. But never forced someone under pain of losing their job to do it.

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Johnny-O's avatar

So there are only 2 possible conclusions:

Trump was duped

or

Trump was in on it.

Either one shows he's either an idiot or evil. Take your pick.

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Bridget T's avatar

Putin’s words are propaganda

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Politico Phil's avatar

Join the club...so are Biden's...

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I don’t know if I want to join the trumpazaltrina or whatever Biden is saying club XD

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Join what club?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Exactly. He does very good at dividing people. Look at what he did in the USA convincing some folks he isn’t a threat and just wants back “what’s his”.

Like Alaska.

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John Galt?'s avatar

"He does very good at dividing people."

Like Biden?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He does, but Biden isn't as mentally there.

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Politico Phil's avatar

You crack me up lol

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Johnny-O's avatar

When are people going to step out of the phony left right paradigm? Trump is no good guy. Operation Warp Speed ring a bell?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Trump never made anyone take it.

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Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

Praying for F4MF

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axons007's avatar

This video sums up exactly what Mandates have done to our country. This is truly run by the criminally insane . https://rumble.com/v1jtvap-ex-fdny-captain-speaks-out-against-discrimination-to-the-face-of-covid-tyra.html

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Thanks for sharing. The last line expressed by this fired fire captain is priceless in its transparency and truth. We will never forget.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or just plain evil.

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Chris TravelsbyTaco's avatar

Listened to it all. Sounded promising. Looking forward to Jeff’s analysis on this. Curious how long until they rule on it?

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Ruth's avatar

I heard it can be up to 3 months. Ugh.

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Copernicus's avatar

Praying!

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Jennifer Beebe's avatar

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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Christy's avatar

🙏🙏🙏. There’s only 1 logical ruling!!!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

As usual, Brandon is confused. He meant the mRNA shots can be used to *cause*—not cure—cancer, hence the warp-speeded turbo cancers we are now enjoying worldwide!

https://etana.substack.com/p/turbo-cancer

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

My perfectly healthy 26-year-old nephew, living in NYC, who cooperated with the despicable "orders" to get injected and "boosted" is undergoing "treatment" for a "rare" form of Hodgkin's Lymphoma. If he survives the "treatment", his health will never be the same...💔

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Annie's avatar

That's sad. 😔

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Thank you, Annie. And there's no talking to my brother about it.

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Freebird's avatar

So sad! I have a granddaughter, same age as your nephew, who is all in on the jabs too. I pray that she is enlightened before they injure her health, or worse!

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Our women's Bible study group are currently praying for two 30 something mom's (with newborns and toddlers) both recently diagnosed with advanced ductal breast cancer...one local the other 40 miles south... Apparently that cancer is skyrocketing in new mom's who were vaxed... Praying for your granddaughter to have her eyes opened sooner than later. With cancer rates through the roof I'm sure Bidumb's plan for a cancer cure will be a real problem!

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Christy's avatar

I’m so sorry but unfortunately that reality is becoming more and more real!!! There are hundreds of thousands of those stories flooding the net now.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Yes. Sadly true.

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CeCe Brown's avatar

My very small next door county in FL Panhandle announced High School student, almost 18 year old who suddenly and unexpected dropped dead on the golf field 2 days ago.

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Christy's avatar

So sad!!!!

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Thank you for this, CeCe. Erickson's father is the Holmes County Commissioner? He's asked for an autopsy..?

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CeCe Brown's avatar

I hope so and I hope they follow through. I am hearing people ask for them and are being told no. But, with this being a healthy young man, they absolutely should follow through. But, will anyone be told the truth?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

The indictment of our "fellow 'Americans'" implicit in your comment, CeCe, speaks volumes. That is another "feature" of this crime that boggles my mind -- I must now, IMO, distrust virtually everyone until they prove they can be trusted. Trust their commitment to truth. Trust their commitment to liberty -- including the natural right of individuals to make decisions about their own health. Trust their commitment to non-violence. From where I sit, we are a very small minority in the land of the free and home of the brave.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I am so sorry, SheThinksLiberty 😥

Does he realize the cause?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

No...it's just one of those things, you see...It happens.

Yeah. Right.

Heartbreaking. Exhausting. Frustrating.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

😣💔😿

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CuiBono?'s avatar

🙏🏻💔

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Thank you...❤️

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SadieJay's avatar

I am SO sorry. Evil. That is just one story out of probably millions that nobody will talk about openly. It is beyond comprehension.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I try to put up a brave front, a calm front for him when we speak. He's trying to stay positive, too, although his short term disability is already scheduled for when he is sure to get very sick from the later rounds of his "treatment". I can hardly stand to think about it.

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SadieJay's avatar

This is a very sorrowful situation. A situation room where the elephant is right there. How difficult and heartbreaking. Stay strong!

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Thank you very much, SadieJay. ❤️

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Genevieve's avatar

That is truly awful, I'm so sorry.

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Annie's avatar

All lefties, greenies and follow the science peeps - take the moon shots. Follow the science. Let us know what happens as you have to take it to find out what is really going to happen. Sarc.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

He quickly took a call from Gates where he was taken to task for his error.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

😆

Don't forget to prepend "philanthropath" to every mention of Gates:

• "Anatomy of a Philanthropath: Dreams of Democide & Dictatorship" (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-philanthropath-dreams)

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Neil Kellen's avatar

also called pathological altruism...

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Sal_Peenx's avatar

Now there's a new term for the ages!!!

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Neil Kellen's avatar

It's not my term, it's the title of a very interesting book put together by Barbara Oakley. In it, I don't think she goes far enough to include "altruism" that actually has malevolent intent - usually control.

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Sharon's avatar

How about..."Maltruism"?

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Oliver Closov's avatar

I like the term "Empathobesity" as well.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Thanks for that link.

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Erin Fight's avatar

excellent! Thank you!

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Good read!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thanks, Neil! There’s always Parts 2 and 3 if you haven’t already read them and want more ;-)

• “Part 2: Downloadable Digital Dictatorships” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-philanthropath-dreams-947)

• “Part 3: Yuval Noah Harari: Not the Man We Think He Is?” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-philanthropath-dreams-3fd)

And there’s a synopsis in here for those who just want the dossier of evidence without the flourishes:

• “A Mostly Peaceful Depopulation” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/a-mostly-peaceful-depopulation)

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Many thanks. I should really explore your Substack.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Many riveting adventures await you down the rabbit-hole 🐇😁

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I haven't read a lot of YH stuff, but the stuff I have read is pretty scary. Seems to me that at the core of his philosophy is the concept of the mind as a type of computer - nothing more, nothing less. It is a computer that can be programmed, and every decision that is made is the result of "lines of code". He seems to make no room for conscience or free will. From what I know, he want nearly total dependence on a state and its institutions - seemingly without realizing that those organizations are made of people - unless you can program minds, then those people simply become controllable computers.

I interpret his warnings as more of "if you resist, it will be bad" than "it is bad so you should resist".

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Politico Phil's avatar

Harari has my nomination for "The Devil Walking on the Earth"

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I’ll be curious what you think of my analysis in Part 3. After watching *far* too many clips of Harari while working on that series, I discovered many of his clips had been taken out of context, and his sinister words about a dystopian totalitarian nightmare were actually warnings rather than recommendations—if you take his statements at face value. That said, he still naïvely believes we should forge ahead with total biosurveillance and thinks global organizations (gee, like the WHO and the WEF) can be used to control this force for good 🤣🤣🤣

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Dr Linda's avatar

Right? Considering the current mRNA injections are accomplishing why a new one?

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Annie's avatar

People aren't as fearful over covid. Cancer is another thing. If you believe the moon shot narrative, there is no hope for you. (I don't mean you personally)

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SadieJay's avatar

Shots to cause the cancer and shots to experiment on the cancer to get rid of it. Cause and Effect approach to healthcare.

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Christy's avatar

All those toxic meds🤬🤬🤬

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree!!!

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Jennifer Beebe's avatar

Absolutely correct! Just another Brandon lie but bless his heart he doesn’t have a clue! 🤪

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Penny North's avatar

Excellent video!

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Christy's avatar

It’s so sad!!!!

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Annie's avatar

Quit spreading misinformation 😉

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Christy's avatar

Lol. Ok I see what you did there🤣

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TeaDrinker86's avatar

So you think maybe that was the plan all along? Increase cancer rates by 50% so you can then hqve a legacy for decreasing cancer rates by 50%?

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Tory's avatar

Correct!

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Jeff C's avatar

Anyone else notice Biden's cancer moonshot tweet has a goal to "turn more cancers from death sentences into chronic conditions people can live with"?

What kind of a goal is that, how about freaking curing them? The only people that welcome "chronic conditions" are the medical industry and pharma as it's their bread and butter.

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SA's avatar

I had to read that bullet twice and then check the posting source bc I thought it was satire. Normalizes the huge number of chronic illness that’s ballooned with our vaccine schedule.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

exactly

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Freebird's avatar

Yep, anyone with half a brain knows by now that it’s never been a goal of the medical industry and pharma to “cure” cancer. Is anyone still foolish enough to believe that garbage? I suppose so, because they still have big fund raisers. The “Pink” campaign of several years ago was the absolute height of stupidity. Everything from Pro football teams shoes to toilet paper wrapping was turned pink. I always wonder if anyone calculated the cost of all that idiocy - millions of dollars which could have been used for research if anyone had any sense at all. I still love Rush Limbaugh’s terminology for that…”symbolism over substance”. Lets do a collective “feel good” campaign that’s a total waste of time, money and effort…but they feel so good about doing something completely ludicrous!

So it’s nothing new, except that they are steering the narrative from cure to chronic.

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CraigN's avatar

”symbolism over substance” Also recently known as 'virtue signaling'.

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Genevieve's avatar

Exactly right, Freebird! Most of the breast cancer survivors I know hate the "Pink" campaign. They say it does nothing to actually help women with cancer.

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CuiBono?'s avatar

Count me as one🙋🏻‍♀️. Thanks for a great comment!

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Michelle's avatar

They are still doing the pink crap.... breast cancer research has received more money than any other cancer, while they push the mammograms that crush and irradiate breast tissue (causing cancer), when they could use thermal imaging instead.

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Freebird's avatar

You are so right! Mammograms are part of the scam. I quit having them long ago and periodically have a thermal image done. Of course insurance doesn't pay for it, but it's not an outrageous cost.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That seems to be the entire platform of the Democrat party, it’s all about what they say and promise and not about what they do or results.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Spot on!

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Annie's avatar

I don't believe them. They still want to reduce worldwide population by a huge amount. This is a bait and switch. Cancer kills but our moon shots will turn death sentence to a shorter life chronic illness sentence. Emphasis on shorter lifespan. Much much shorter lifespan.

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Politico Phil's avatar

And BigPharma has a never ending supply of profits selling drugs for chronic conditions everyone now has. Welcome to the Matrix.

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Dr Linda's avatar

So cancer might not kill you but the chronic conditions and the adverse side effects from the multitude of drugs will. What’s going to happen to the drugs known to cause cancer? This is getting very complex.

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SadieJay's avatar

California is losing it's mind, thinking about all the new labels that will have to be printed on stuff.

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Crixcyon's avatar

That's exactly right. Big pharma never met a cure it could live with.

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DogsLife's avatar

That's exactly what they did with AIDS. HIV+ is now another chronic condition with a menu of medications. A plus in the asset column for the pharmaceutical companies.

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SadieJay's avatar

And...the blood supply was tainted, just like that. Remember poor little Ryan White?

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DogsLife's avatar

Yes. Imagine the damage yet to be realized with mRNA-tainted blood and transplanted organs.

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SadieJay's avatar

And a "normal" blood transfusion. From a tainted blood supply to those who chose an Unlife. Evil. Stay healthy everyone!

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Copernicus's avatar

How about preventing them in the first place? That would be even better.

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Annie's avatar

To prevent them you have to avoid msm medical community and big pharma. That does them no good. And it might have people living longer happier and healthier lives. Shock and horror to big harma.

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DogsLife's avatar

Yes, but in order to do that, the PTB need a real Great Reset, or Build Back Better, more likely after removing billions of 'useless eaters' from the planet. I think they are shooting for their own Garden of Eden and immortality. Men have been trying to defeat God's plan since the beginning. Those who know their Bible, know this waits for those who believe and stand strong to the end. Trust God, not men.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes and the “supportive experience” bs part too 🙄 WTH is that supposed to even mean??

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Peace's avatar

that caught my attention! Are cancer patients feeling unsupported?

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Remi Steele's avatar

There's no profit in dead people, but there's lots of profit in sick people. At least 10% for the Corn-Pop-Pedo-Pete-Big-Guy.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Well actually i think it’s good to move away from the “war on cancer” theme which has meant kill the cancer at any cost…even the cost of the human life. The amount of people that chemo kills is egregious and yet it’s attributed to dying of cancer.

As long as the cancer is managed and not shutting off organ function, it can be managed and kept in check by supporting the immune system and the body’s terrain.

Of course that’s not what the President is speaking of…for government it’s more drugs that cause other additional problems.

But apart from that, I do think we need to move away from the killing cancer at any cost theme.

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Julia's avatar

It sounds like an excuse for making healthy people sick while brainwashing them with fearmongering. You're sick but you could've died without the Moonshot!

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Annie's avatar

And you can use the vaxxer creed "It would have been much worse without the vaxx." Uggh

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Tory's avatar

Lol! Truth😢

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CuiBono?'s avatar

Yes I noticed that too right off. Of course this would be their goal, it always has been 👿👎🏻

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Through You we will push back our adversaries;

Through Your name we will trample down those who rise up against us.

For I will not trust in my bow,

Nor will my sword save me.

But You have saved us from our adversaries,

And You have put to shame those who hate us.

In God we have boasted all day long,

And we will give thanks to Your name forever. Selah.

— Psalm 44:5-8 NAAB1995

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Copernicus's avatar

Lord, make it so and soon.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Amen, in Jesus Christ’s Name.

Put one’s trust in God, not man.

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Roger Beal's avatar

We've discovered a new mental disorder: PDS, or Putin Derangement Syndrome. Likely as severe and uncurable as is its predecessor, Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I wonder if Fauci boosted his fellow TDS sufferers, and PDS is the resulting mutation of the virus ...

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Annie's avatar

Both TDS and PDS runs strong in a lot of the same people. Maybe the water they drink or the news sites they are following? Too many clot shots? Lol

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Putin is actually a scum bag however.

Trump ain’t

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

You got it bad, Benjamin.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I don't think so. I think he is paid, working out of some BigTech basement. Funny how these commentators, I think we got a couple here, suddenly pop up exactly at the same time social media is swamped with anti-Putin propaganda. I'm sure it's just coincidence though....right? Or maybe he's just a wannabe. That could be.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Funny, the moment someone has a differing opinion they're automatically a bot or paid shill.

I'm actually a regular guy. Hard concept, you know?

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I'm a regular guy also and agree with Benjaminn. I think that we see at this point in the conversation that when the people on the indefensible side can't support their arguments, they just start calling us names. Thanks for taking all the bullets Benjaminn.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Thanks. I've made it a point to never give up on my beliefs which Is why I haven't gotten the covid shot. Or a booster.

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Sheryl T2's avatar

My thoughts exactly.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What am I alleged to have?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Hardly.

“We know them by their fruits”. Enough for me

Trump slaughtered Putin’s private army.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think I got your number.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Cool, give me a call then.

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SadieJay's avatar

They can often be found in Stranded DNA. Like parallels like. And stranded in lonely places and no trip to OZ in their future to find the lacking vectors.

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SA's avatar

RE: the university vax mandates. Why aren’t more lawyers taking up lawsuits against schools? My husband was recently denied access to his final year in a certificate program at university of Washington (it would have been only two weeks on campus). The program blames it on the school and the school claimed their policy was backed by the governor.

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Dr Linda's avatar

That is tough to hear. So he has to choose to change his life and health by taking the injection for a 2 week stint at UW or change his life and career by not being injected and unable to complete his program. That’s dreadful.

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Renee Marie's avatar

That is so disgusting! He’ll be able to finish it. He’ll have to put it off or maybe God is guiding him in another direction. My bf lost his career after 17 years for not getting the jab. Now he’s happier doing something else! When one stands for goodness. GOD PROVIDES in ways we can’t even imagine.

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SA's avatar

Yep. And he’s done with the two years worth of work leading up to this final session. It was remote last year because of covid, but it was mandatory to be on campus this year.

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AM's avatar

I'm guessing the Gates tentacles reach deep at UW.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes, the tentacles reach down into Oregon enveloping it, and continue down through California, with the pointy little ends grabbing Newsome and pinching his shitty little cheeks.

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AM's avatar

🎯🤣

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We had a dude die from a Covid shot. Came back off duty, wasn’t feeling well, went back to his room and died.

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Tory's avatar

Tragic, unnecessary!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! I agree. I want to see this.

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SadieJay's avatar

Seattle is a liberal shit hole and it is dragging the surround down with it.

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Peace's avatar

can he get a religious exemption?

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SA's avatar

Our personal issue with religious exemptions is that it plays into the system by asking permission to participate in society. If everyone would have flat out said no from the beginning then we probably wouldn’t have the level of discrimination we’re having now. Also, I know several RE denied bc they were purported to be “not sincere enough.”

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It's what I have to work with at this point.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

All religious exemptions are being denied. There are maybe a handful that are approved.

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Jwm_in_va's avatar

It will cut rates by 50% after they explode 100% from baseline!!!

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Katcando's avatar

Similar to so many initiatives of dems and biden administration; do a hatchet job on small businesses, supply chain, employment, oil/gas prices, drilling, etc etc and then claim major victory at any slightest hint of positive change

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SadieJay's avatar

Oh, and the border and all those illegals? I heard this morning that they are blaming Trump. Does anyone believe this hooey? And...the propaganda comes out every day...all day long. What chance does mere mortal man have against the power of The Ring? There are more Orcs than Men at this stage in the story.

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Levans's avatar

So let me guess, if you refuse the " cancer shot" , insurance won't cover you if you get cancer? I wouldn't doubt it. Insurance is a scam anyway . All in bed with CMS and big pharma anyway, they get away with not paying for even basic claims . From medical to home to car insurance, they randomly set narrow parameters that are very difficult to stay within and then cancel you if they decide you've made too many claims . It's robbery at this point.

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Annie's avatar

If you stay away from msm medical community and big pharma your risk of cancer drops dramatically. So don't get the shots and live joyfully 🙂

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JW's avatar

But...not with too much joy or that will give you cancer.

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Annie's avatar

Or cause a heart attack. 😉😄

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RandiG's avatar

I’m sorry, but this is factually not true. I’ve been in insurance for over 30 years, working for many large insurance companies including Lloyd’s Syndicates. Claims get paid.

As a user of health insurance, it is up to the insured(us) to know the policy coverage and work it. I will not say working with health insurers is easy, but they pay basic claims and can’t cancel you for excessive claims. Maybe you’re thinking of auto or homeowners insurance.

Insurance is not a scam, but if you don’t know, for example, that your homeowners insurance DOES NOT cover flood and you think it does, then you might believe it’s a scam.

Caveat emptor.

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CraigN's avatar

I would concur. Until recently I worked 25+ years for a health insurance company in a state where up until recently we had to be a not for profit organization to do business in that state. Our margin was always in the 3% range, that had to cover all our expenses i.e. payroll, benefits, rent, etc.. As a not for profit you were not allowed to make a 'profit'. If there was a profit we would typically pour that into our state required reserves to bring that to a higher level. The ACA and some poor decisions almost ended our business and our 'owners' had to infuse some capital to keep us afloat. A few years down the road and our 'owners', a provider network, almost went broke due to C19 and had to sell us to a larger insurer to make payroll. Not saying that the health insurance industry doesn't have it's problems but like most insurance purchasers everyone is looking for the lowest cost and in the end you get what you pay for which in turn wipes out the competition so you have a few big insurers. As with government and in this case insurers, you get what you deserve.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good point. When I selected my homeowners insurance (I live in FL on the coast), I told my agent I didn't want the lowest cost. I wanted the company that had the best reputation for paying on claims. After Cat5 Michael hit me, I called the company and they had already started my claim along with all the other policy holders they had in the area. Got my house fixed and they paid the claim lickysplit. A friend of mine had bought the lowest cost policy he could find which will not be named but they are not very progressive. He is still fighting with the company to get his house claim paid. You get what you pay for.

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CraigN's avatar

I have all my insurance with a company that 'encompasses' all my needs and they are owned by a larger company that has a 'good hand' in their business. When I had tornado damage a few years ago the adjuster was prompt and very fair, I ended up getting the work done for less than the claim payment, I told that adjuster how happy I had been over the years with multiple claims and he said how happy he was working for them but, the owning company was not so much. My insurance agent is a friend that always is looking out for me so I get good rates with a stellar, IMHO, insurance company.

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Janet's avatar

I just had a hip replacement after an accident. I’m pretty glad I have health insurance. For this stuff I find it well needed and managed. For the rest--I see a functional med doc that insurance doesn’t pay for. Better results there.

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LostGen's avatar

For surgeries, I always recommend the surgery center of Oklahoma. They have transparent, upfront, menu pricing for all surgeries. Much better than insurance! https://surgerycenterok.com

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Levans's avatar

I did mention car and home so yes you are right . I have two daughters , one whose car insurance cancelled for hitting someone in the back no injuries , and the other who very recently had homeowners cancel citing too many claims . One of the claims was when her ex-husband got his car broken into and then she had to claim a storm damage to her home she had JUST got put into her name and everything switched over after the divorce a big storm came with damage to her house. Yes they paid the measly 2500.00 then cancelled her. Single mom trying to keep it together and they did that. So whatever say what you want .

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

“Insurance is a scam anyway.”

Amen, amen I say to you.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Were are already in a cancer moon shot started by Nixon (the war on cancer) about 50 years ago. The results have been dismal. This new moon shot is another giant money helicopter that will dump billions of dollars into big pharma coffers once again with little or no progress. Big pharma drugs are not the answer for curing cancer. There are numerous natural cures for many cancers that have been buried by big pharma or censored by the mainstream medical community.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Kind of like the war on poverty 🙄 They keep moaning about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer so apparently all of their government programs did nothing and even likely contributed to the situation but what do they want to remedy it—right, MORE government programs! New and improved! 🙄🙄🙄

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Crixcyon's avatar

You are right on the money.

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Politico Phil's avatar

There will never be any real advances in science as long as all the financing is provided by the Gov't, meaning controlled by the Gov't. Just more money down the rat hole to rig big profits for BigPharma etc

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Craig's avatar

A couple thoughts.

First, the cancer moonshot will take twenty five years? I'm sure there's a way to speed it up by waving billions of dollars under the noses of big pharma. Maybe we can reduce regulatory oversight too. It'll need a catchy name too--like Mission Quick Pace or Rapid Paced Efforting. I dunno.

Second, what has amazed me over the past couple years is how the executive branch at seemingly every level of government can declare an emergency and then renew that emergency ad infinitum. Why isn't the executive-level state of emergency limited to something like 30 days? After that, the legislature would be required to renew it. That seems to make a lot more sense and is consistent with the separation of powers that is fundamental to our republic.

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T Kosse's avatar

In Illinois, the executive-level state of emergency is limited to 30 days. So Pritzker has renewed it something like 30 times. What's to stop him? Nothing. The Illinois legislature are toadies.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same in supposedly red Indiana, such total BS!!! I don’t know how many times the RINO Holcomb renewed it but it was ridiculous 😡

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Same BS in Oregon. There is no end to their tyranny BS. Nobody stops them because the legislature is up the governors arse.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’d expect that from Oregon but hoped for better from Indiana 😕 In both cases it is frustrating, regardless.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Same everywhere. Where is the GOP outrage over this week’s latest round of FBI raids on Trump supporters.

The silence from our stalwart conservatives in Congress is deafening.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Just as it has been all along for the poor ppl held in solitary confinement for trespassing charges on J6.

We’re being scammed ppl. WAKE.THE.HELL.UP

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

that's what we did in PA. it took a state constitutional amendment vote tho.

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Annie's avatar

You only need to test on 8 to 10 mice. Doesn't matter if they all die or get ill. Eazy peazy 😉 Takes a couple of weeks. Snap!

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Janet's avatar

Quick Qancer Pfuck Up?

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Susan Catherine's avatar

"BEFORE the newest joker was added Biden’s deck of bureaucratic wild cards, ..." my favorite this morning!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh and also the oil cancer 🤣😂

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I love the oil cancer revival, I had almost forgotten 😜

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RunningLogic's avatar

That was a good one but mine was the magic mRNA beans 🤣😁

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Christy's avatar

Anyone see “I am Legend”? there will never be a cure for cancer because “they” make too much 💴 from it😢😢😢

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Sal_Peenx's avatar

One my scariest movies ever seen

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Renee Marie's avatar

GREAT MOVIE! Watch the “Omega Man” with Charleton Heston. “I Am Legend”, I think, was taken from this classic original. Heston was in some AWESOME movies in the 60’s-70’s!

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Christy's avatar

Thanks. I will!!!!

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Copernicus's avatar

Yesterday must’ve been the new Global Social Media Propaganda Day. I saw that Peter McCullough’s accounts were attacked by tens of thousands of bots claiming the accounts were fake.

The cancer talk is ludicrous for anyone who cares to pause for half a minute. First, why no talk of prevention. That’s infinitely better than cure. Lots of things we could do to prevent but most of those would require major gov backpedaling re dietary advice, vitamin D exposure, weather manipulation, 5G towers, and injectable products of various sorts including but not limited to the current One.

Second, plenty of cures available for many via well-formulated ketogenic diet (Thomas Seyfried, if I recall correctly), repurposed meds including the horse one, and other natural remedies.

Third, if the mR N A platform is so safe and effective, why do we have to wait for 25 years for this amazing development? Can’t we skip the animal trials and reproductive toxicity trials and long term safety studies and just get on with the thing? I mean, for the people who actually HAVE cancer, it kind of feels like an EMERGENCY.

Hopefully his 25 year timeline allows enough time for this to become unfounded and just go away.

Government needs to recuse itself from all involvement in such personal decisions as our health and well being. Plus, it’s not in the Constitution anyway. It’s all illegal.

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JustANobody's avatar

I vote this comment above, number one. The most thoughtful well put statement I've seen yet.

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Copernicus's avatar

I admit that actually the idea of actually choosing to opt for the alternative cancer treatments does feel rather, uh, well, kind of like choosing something crazy. I hope I never have to.

I guess I need to actually read some of the books about this. Maybe it isn’t any more “crazy” than foregoing the current recommended standard of care for certain respiratory infections. It’s just that I have never seen it (cancer treatment) for what it really is.

I mean, a friend thinks we are playing with death to skip the injections and to have foregone pax when we had our recent bout. But, we all did fine. And, thankfully, so did she, despite her quadrupled injection status and use of pax with its rebound. Maybe, just maybe, MORE people would survive cancer than currently do, if the treatments were different. Just like more people survive Plague with alternative treatments? Intriguing to think about.

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SadieJay's avatar

What they are essentially doing is swabbing our arms with disinfectant while we are lying in that little room in the prison, getting ready for the lethal injection. What?? You are worried about me getting an INFECTION? I. Can't. Stand. It.

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Peace's avatar

Great point - why not rush through the mRna for cancer? another warp speed? since cancer is obviously a top killer. I'm not actually in favor of this, since the blowback may come our way with "incentives" to take the thing (and "disincentives" if ya don't).

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Copernicus's avatar

Oh, absolutely I am not in favor of the concept of the shots or of rushing! It seems like a really bad idea.

Just pointing out the inconsistent standards and expectations.

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

Neither the federal legislature (Congress) nor the executive branch of our federal government have the power to legislate, regulate or order health mandates. The United States Constitution granted and enumerated very limited powers to the federal government. Health and education, along with many other subjects, are not within the purview of the feds.

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Copernicus's avatar

It’s amazing, when one reads the actual Constitution, what is NOT in there. Our government need a big fat liposuction surgery and fast.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes. All of those agencies need to go.

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Politico Phil's avatar

But they plan on getting rid of the Constitution so they're not worried about it. And our court system has been neutralized. And Congress sleeps while cashing the kickbacks.

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

Anyone conspiring to get rid of the Constitution is a traitor.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

There’s no need for getting rid of it when you can simply ignore it. That’s what’s been done for almost a century now.

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JMH75's avatar

Not sure if they ran the President's Moon Shot speech nation wide, but here in Boston they did. So i listened. And as a former member of the Democratic Party all I can say is and (I cannot say it loud enough) NO!!!!!! The only way to curb and/or cure cancer is PREVENTION! Hey Scientists and researches, here's an idea, how about you STOP POISIONING THE ENTIRE POPULATION with GLYPHOSATE??!! He has the audacity to tell me that the "successful" mRNA shots could be used to stop cancer? Insanity at it's finest. He also referenced the HPV jab, newsflash that has a very high injury rate and is bad news, jump over to the highwire to learn more about that one. And the stupidest thing I heard was that "we can turn cancers into chronic diseases people can live with." Are you freaking kidding me? Just more drugs to manage your condition. If the government really cared about "HEALTH", they would run studies on all kinds of environmental and lifestyle factors that might be contributing to the cancer epidemic. They would want to get to the route of your problem and not just continue to make you pill dependent. (Just like they would have told you to take vitamin D and zinc and exercise during the "pandemic scare".) Doctors don't go to medical school to study health, it's the study of medicine. And as we all know, all the agencies that are supposed to look out for us are funded by your favorite sponsors "PFizer & Friends". Let's just take the Moon Shot money and flush it down the toilet, then we can at least be entertained by watching the swirl of every cent descend into the infinite black shit hole... because let's be honest, that's exactly where it's going.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And this also gives them the opportunity to add and supposedly justify more government agencies and more overpaid bureaucrats meddling in people’s lives 😡

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Truthseeker's avatar

So I am thrilled on the surface by that study about vaccine mandates for college age kids

However

here’s a question for all the smart people on this substack

WHY would the Wellcome Trust fund that study?

These are bill gates, big evil pharma people…

What’s the angle?

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Copernicus's avatar

I too wondered why Wellcome Trust would have permitted that study with those findings. 🤔. The association smells fishy.

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William's avatar

From the abstract: "Funding: This paper was partially supported by a Wellcome Trust Society and Ethics fellowship awarded to KB (10892/B/15/ZE) and Wellcome Trust grants to EJ (216355, 221719, 203132). Competing Interest Statement: We do not have any competing interests to declare."

I think this is fairly benign funding statement.

1. The paper has nine co-authors. only _2_ of them (KB, 1st author; and EJ, 3rd author) are declaring support from the Wellcome Trust.

2. KB has a fellowship in "Society and Ethics". Fellowships typically allow wide latitude in topics the awardees can study, and this topic would certainly fall under the "Ethics" heading. (Finding the exact grants is not easy on the Wellcome site, but I may have more time to tackle this tonight).

The bottom line is that this study was not 'funded' along a traditional timeline.

Regarding the peer-review process, I could say a lot about that. My quick read for now is that the authors published to SSRN (a well-known pre-publication server) because both (a) they expect the review process to be challenging, and (b) they want to get this information out as soon as possible. I'm sure they expect it to be picked apart by their colleagues, but I'm encouraged by their boldness.

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Andrea's avatar

I noticed that too. Interesting.

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