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ChrisB's avatar

"The authors conducted a “multiverse analysis” of nearly a hundred thousand different computer models. The models compared government mandates like lockdowns, school shutdowns, and mask mandates, against local covid outcomes in cases, deaths, and excess mortality. They crunched data from 181 countries."

They could've just asked ONE of us and we would have told them that it was all an oleaginous plot to take our freedoms away. 🤷‍♀️🕶

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Tom's avatar

Are we to believe that because there were a hundred thousand computer models that the quality of the input was somehow better? Why not a hundred million computer models? How much attention could they possibly pay to the input with that many models?

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Vonu's avatar

Computer models are like political opinion polls, both showing what their funders want them to show.

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Erin W's avatar

Models are never evidence. They are a hypotheses to be tested. The evolution of science seems to have mutated beyond recognition.

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Vonu's avatar

Evidence is anything that any court will allow in litigation.

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Tuco's Child's avatar

Just like the climate change computer models, garbage in, garbage out.

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william howard's avatar

not to mention that each model is completely devoid of any common sense - like most leftists - anyone with any common sense would know that your don't inject experimental chemicals into your body, and that putting 1/2 of the country out of work and bankrupting hundreds of thousands of companies and people is not a particularly good idea

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Leo's avatar

Well...whether or not something is a "particularly good idea" depends on what their goal is...right?

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Long Enough?'s avatar

Kinda like counting counterfeit money… or ballots.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

We should always trust the computer, especially in the tallying of numbers.

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Essay33's avatar

Yes, as someone who spends part of each day cursing under my breath at my company's CRM and accounting software, er, I mean praising it, I agree.

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Sherry 1's avatar

Dominion.

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John Ransley's avatar

Yea Dominion. They still got it. I am not optimistic. Only France doesn`t have it

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

That’s why we’re all so sure this newest fad, AI, is going to change the world

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ChrisB's avatar

🎯

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Jolene's avatar

They should model how quickly I’m going to break my foot off in their *sses if they try to pull that crap again.

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banjocat's avatar

^^like Computer modeling is as much a facade as "human modeling". All a false presentation to sell you something you don't want or need.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Hear, hear!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I said the same thing in another article smh. Plenty of people were saying these mandates were bad ideas smh.

It’s hard to believe, but our governments may have been taking part in the act of Democide and Menticide: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/democide-and-menticide

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CStone's avatar

I went to the link and read the article.

It is excellent. I plan to read the other articles in full as I have time.

I know of no other way to put this, but I know that the One Who created me gave me the gift of discernment through all of these things. But I would have been caught off-guard anyway, if I had not listened to my teenaged son, back in the 90’s when he warned me about the corruption in our own government.

He is now in his mid 40’s and is much wiser than I was at that age, or even at this age.

Your article is much needed, and (with your permission) I would like to share it with my family and friends. We have a Midrash once a week and the discussion is, at times, intense. A couple of scholars, two…sometimes three, authors. The rest of us laypeople just asking questions. Sometimes questions for which no one has answers. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hey CSStone! Please share! No permission needed ! Thank you for these words. Greatly appreciated. And you’re right, the gift of discernment is what we need to develop more off.

Thanks again for this comment and so glad for your son! Let’s chat soon!

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CStone's avatar

Thank you.

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Angk's avatar

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a Midrash? I did look it up, but the definition didn't seem to fully relate to your use of the term.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

From myjewishlearning.com;

Midrash (מדרשׁ) is an interpretive act, seeking the answers to religious questions (both practical and theological) by plumbing the meaning of the words of the Torah. (In the Bible, the root d-r-sh [דרשׁ] is used to mean inquiring into any matter, including occasionally to seek out God's word.)Midrash

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CStone's avatar

We have a Bible Study group. We study the same portions of Scripture, we discuss it…..trying to make connections. I had always heard of the ‘crimson thread) woven from Genesis (Bereshit) through the Revelation of Yeshua. And, from beginning to end we are finding that crimson thread.

At the end, we discuss end of days events/current events. I have learned more in the last 14 years than I ever had in a formal setting. It’s amazing what you can learn when you can ask the teacher/speaker/preacher/pastor/author questions.

I read where someone on here started calling the bureaucrats running our country and writing our laws (instead of Congress) as public ‘serpents’ instead of servants. There are many demonic beings in DC and Big Pharma. And we can see things links that in Scripture as well. But when you simply warm a seat in a congregation, you may never hear about it. Franklin O’Kanu seems to be over the target in the articles I have read.

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CStone's avatar

Anyway, discussions of Scripture and applying them to real life is what is called a ‘Midrash’

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Dena's avatar

Excellent writing Franklin. Democide- let me count the ways: pharma, poisoned food, geoengineering, military industrial complex…

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rolandttg's avatar

May have???!!

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Sherry 1's avatar

Read your article, awesome. I liked CStones comment about a weekly Midrash with his family and friends. Like CS I have forwarded your article to myself to get into the links you added.

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CStone's avatar

I’m female. Born as such, remain at 72 still….a female.

No worries. Cannot detect with just one initial.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Thank you so much for this Sherry! Greatly appreciated :)

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Willing Spirit's avatar

We need mind transformation like Jesus taught.

Matthew 5:20–26

Friends, in today’s Gospel, Jesus teaches that if a brother has something against us, we must be reconciled with him before we offer our gift at the altar. This reconciling requires a change of heart and mind.

The word often misleadingly translated as “repent” is metanoiete. This Greek term is based upon two words, meta (beyond) and nous (mind or spirit), and thus, in its most basic form, it means something like “go beyond the mind that you have.”

The English word “repent” has a moralizing overtone, suggesting a change in behavior or action, whereas Jesus’ term seems to be hinting at a change at a far more fundamental level of one’s being. Jesus urges his listeners to change their way of knowing, their way of perceiving and grasping reality, their mode of seeing.

What Jesus implies is this: a new state of affairs has arrived, the divine and human have met, but the way you customarily see is going to blind you to this novelty. Minds, eyes, ears, senses, perceptions—all have to be opened up, turned around, revitalized. Metanoia, mind transformation, is Jesus’ first recommendation.

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Dawn B's avatar

Right! Perception is key.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Philippians 4:4-8

4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; 6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m so glad to know God. Can’t imagine dealing with this world without Him.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Excellent. I ordered the book. Sounds like what is needed at this time.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Thank you so much for your support! This will be sent out by this weekend! :)

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Copernicus's avatar

"Oleaginous." What a fine adjective that despite being a lover of words, I admit never hearing until I started reading Jeff. I love all the ways C&C grows my brain. 😂

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I always think margarine. I seem to recall it being called Oleo at one point. Or maybe that was a brand name.

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ChrisB's avatar

I love to sneak it in sometimes 😁

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Valerie's avatar

For sure! Also, we know how effective these models are.... we’ve seen it with climate change projections. No. Just ask people with some discernment and we’ll tell you.

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Vonu's avatar

The Heartland Institute has published a book of charts showing that global warming is a complete fiction.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I think the old,

If rock is wet, it’s rainy.

If rock is dry, it isn’t rainy.

If rock is white, it’s snowy.

If rock is gone, its windy model works just fine. 😝

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Fla Mom's avatar

They're not speaking to us; they're speaking to, trying to persuade, those who still haven't seen it, those who will otherwise be standing in line for H5N1 or H5N8 vaccines or who will comply with unconstitutional orders or wear silly masks again, to the people who believed the models back in 2020.

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Dr Linda's avatar

😂😂

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

exactly. their favorite is to conflate "precision" vs. accuracy, and that's exactly what the computer models are for.

It is precise to say 2+2 = 5.3765....but it's not accurate.

simple but subtle to fool most.

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Brenda Zepp's avatar

It's my belief that too much confidence is being placed in computer models.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I’m confident in your belief.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Computer models predicted 10k American casualties in the first few weeks of gulf war one.

We know how that turned out

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Models aren't the main problem. StatNews head-faked us into the weeds: “Improving . . . the public’s trust . . . is a long and complicated journey.” They should have admitted, "Scientists made their journey back to credibility impossible. They lied. People died. Hold scientists accountable, and Science will be fine."

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Roger Beal's avatar

Ain't no grant money in asking plebes for answers.

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Katherine's avatar

Lol!! Fact is there WAS a difference in the outcomes; 40% saw improvement from Government abuse of citizens & the rights, 60% saw a worsening trend from Government abuses of the citizens & our rights. (Roughly)

Abuse harms people AND it's wrong, illegal & unconstitutional.

Rocket Science? I think not.

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CHop's avatar

Haven't we realized that it was the models that got us into this mess?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Computer models are only as good as the data put into it.

Trump thought it was a dangerous disease so that’s what happened

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

7" hail in Texas, historic flooding in Florida, and one of the coldest Junes I remember here at home? I blame the geo-engineering.

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Valerie's avatar

I live in Texas and a friend recently sent me a link to the group in Texas that handles weather modification licensing (at least one has to have a license to modify the weather, wondering what the criteria is to get a license.).

Do you want to guess how many licenses there are in Texas for weather modification? TEN THOUSAND! Ten. Thousand. And we wonder why we’re suddenly having so many weather extremes? Um... I have a guess.

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Carol M.'s avatar

This nonsense needs to be stopped all across the nation. Between the Dr. Frankensteins of weather and gain of function, it appears hopeless some days.🫣

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Valerie's avatar

These folks that way to try to play God are extremely concerning.

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Vonu's avatar

They shouldn't be any more concerning than those who publish the bibles that give them gameplans to follow.

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Redeemed's avatar

Communists.

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Vonu's avatar

Along with Conservative fascists.

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Dena's avatar

Check out this site. Find your state: https://zerogeoengineering.com/us-washington/

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Carol M.'s avatar

Thanks, Dena!

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MiBellaPJ's avatar

Two weeks ago, I called elected Texas representative to request a Bill to ban geoEngineering/chemtrails in Texas. In the conversation, I suggested they follow the template already in place from Tennessee’s bill which bans geoEngineering. I even sent the link to TX rep for TN’s bill. I intend to frequently follow up in hopes the legislation will be brought to the floor in the next session. I’m hoping other Texans will call their reps. GeoEngineering is wrecking havoc with our lives, economy and property damages. I’m hoping the elected officials will be part of the solution instead of ignoring the problems from weather manipulation.

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CStone's avatar

Sounds like a lot of people ‘playing’ with the weather like kids playing with a toy.

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Valerie's avatar

Or playing with fire….🔥

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Lisa's avatar

Remember, it's not nice to fool Mother Nature.

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Peter Schott's avatar

I'm curious how many of those are "cloud seeding" in an attempt to get rain vs some other purpose - and what those purposes might come out as. The idea has been around for some time and even 10k may not be huge considering the size of Texas.

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Valerie's avatar

I have the same question. Cloud seeding has been around since the 1950s, that’s not particularly alarming. But there are other types of weather modification that are potentially more alarming.

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Vonu's avatar

The aluminum, barium, and strontium sprayed in chemtrails are far more toxic to the environment below than the simple salts used for cloud seeding.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

The license applications must indicate their purpose. To Valerie above: Does your friend know more? Maybe an ability to see the apps?

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Valerie's avatar

I’m going to see if I can find out more info

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Chris Kanon's avatar

If you watch the video Maria Reyes linked to above the pilot tells how they get round that

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Erin Fight's avatar

We all need to be Tennessee where that shit has been legislated into illegality.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

You mean the industry is totally uncontrolled? How could that be when they are using toxins? Yeah, I know. How do you look that up? I want to check Oregon.

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Dena's avatar

O Kathy, Check out geoengineeringwatch.org. Dane Wigington has been on this for years.

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Valerie's avatar

I don’t know if the industry is uncontrolled. I just know that Texas has a licensure process.

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SA's avatar

It is uncontrolled. I spoke with a rep at NOAA and they confirmed they are only the repository for weather mod reports. No checking or accountability measures in place. You can search for reports on NOAA’s website. Little recourse for damage when states pass bills to give state sponsored cloud seeders liability exemptions.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Ask Bill Ghate$...he knows.

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Concerned mom's avatar

I have 10,000 guesses.... hmmm...

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carily myers's avatar

OMG

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Can you share that link?

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Valerie's avatar

I’ll see if I can find it.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Thanks

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RU's avatar

El Nino is, uh, "transitioning" to being La Nina. :-) Pretty much explains it all.

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Jay Horton's avatar

And solar radiation and sun spot activity have tremendous (that's Yuuuuuge in Trump speak) affect on the weather. Let's not forget that we are at the peak or nearing the peak of a major solar cycle. We should be more concerned about the attempts to control the weather by the goofs that are trying to fund and control our crops, meat and dairy and ultimately, our food supplies. I hope they all go the way of the Dodo.

Later Jay

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RU's avatar

Seriously. Any time someone starts talking about climate change, I point out the Earth has been through far more change than a (possible) 1.5 degree shift in temperatures over a 100 year period. Ice ages. Eras with giant plants and animals due to the high temps and high availability of carbon. The more you think about the overall picture - and look at a Geology textbook - the more ludicrous the climate change scam becomes.

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Jay Horton's avatar

10-4, Sir! Not that we shouldn't take care, as we are mandated to do but this constant assault on the things that have brought about positive change for all, that it is available to, is non-sense.

Later Jay

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Dawn B's avatar

I just say yes, in the history of the world, climate changes and nothing we can do about it.

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FourWinds's avatar

I agree 100% - definitely geoengineering of the weather. Don't worry about cold, though, here in Ohio it will be in 90s in a day or so. I am going to the basement and staying there!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Time for my summer hibernation as well.

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nancylee's avatar

estivation is hibernation from heat.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Thank you for the new word. I like to learn new vocabulary. I see that it can also be spelled aestivation. I looked it up and salamanders and cane toads and desert tortoises do this. That was a fun learning lesson. I never knew there was a term for summer hibernation.

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FourWinds's avatar

I did not know that! Now I have a new word. Thanks!

And I will most certainly be doing that till about September.... :)

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

I'm also in Ohio. My poor habanero plants are shivering. I think they'll enjoy 90° weather. 😁

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Dena's avatar

Found this site recently. Maybe one for your state: https://zerogeoengineering.com/us-washington/

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Robin Landry's avatar

In 1740 Ireland had a frozen summer and people starved. This conspiracy goes back a long time.

They have been doing using weather as a weapon for centuries. It’s a good way to soften up the enemy without letting him know you’ve attacked.

I’m happy people are finally seeing conspiracies but keep looking and you’ll see a flu every 100 years—floods—blights on certain crops—and for our day we have bird flu in cattle, cattle who have been vaxxed.

See how it works? First comes the ‘protection against the problem’ and then the problem.

The evil we are just now seeing has been here a very long time. 😈☠️👺🤡

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Ellen's avatar

Wait, are you saying that the government caused a cold summer in 1740?? hahaha.

It looks like they DID cause a flood that killed a bunch of people in the 50s

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/aug/30/sillyseason.physicalsciences

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Not That “Karen”'s avatar

I’m not sure I’d blame the Russians for the Florida weather situation. If anything, I’d blame our own government, nothing like teaching those Red states a lesson

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FourWinds's avatar

Yeah, I'd call our own government way before I called any other country doing this.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The Russians have been visiting Cuba for decades. Not applicable.

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Angk's avatar

It's hard to understand how much and what kind of effects chemtrails have, but there's a natural phenomena that is affecting the weather. The Grand Solar Minimum Iceage. It's into the early stages and it is affecting normal weather patterns. And, TPTB deny it, because, well, it's supposed to be getting hotter and hotter, but we're in a weather cooling cycle. Known weather cycle data going back beyond what climate alarmist use to fit their narrative. The European ski slopes are open, just got 8 inches of new snow upon an already deep base.

And, folks, we're going to need natural gas to stay warm.

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FourWinds's avatar

The idea that we are in a weather cooling cycle is a reason for me to throw a block party. I'm dying here. It sounds like I need to go to a European ski slope and roll around. That may help. But seriously, thanks for the info.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I don't subscribe to Electroverse, but I see 'his' headlines, which support what you say.

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Angk's avatar

I have followed Electroverse for several years. Then they went to Substack. They have few likes, so I wonder how many subscribers. Considering his traffic, his subscription price is higher than most substacks. I think he needs to open up his substack for awhile, and get a bigger following then charge accordingly. People need to see what's happening, that never gets reported.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

A cold and breezy 40 degrees this morning in coast range Oregon. Brrrr. At least the carrots and onions like it. The squash is frowning.

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AB's avatar

100% geo engineered storm and flood. Military industrial complex for our ‘safety’. How on earth do we stop this? Desantis? Childers? Help!! Please!!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Government weather weapons.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

well at least it's pride month...and you get a one day break from it with Juneteenth.

Bust out your Kente cloth for the next kneeling session...

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I'm sure the alphabet mafia will ignore Flag Day tomorrow.

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FourWinds's avatar

So I have to do this board that advertises my services in the store. It's a glorified poster board. Anyhow, to keep people interested, I change it for the seasons and/or holidays. There won't be a single damn rainbow on it for June - I'm already decked out for July 4. Come to think of it, our store does not have any of that rainbow crap except for one stupid display that a cosmetics manufacturer made us put up.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Excellent. That's a win in my book.

We need millions of little wins like this to get the big win.

Thank you so much for doing your part.

Cheers!

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Jay Horton's avatar

You are SO bad, Dude! But, I like that.

Later Jay

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Hey, don't talk sh!t about President Trump's birthday!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Hahaha lolol

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Peregrine's avatar

7" SPIKED hail...

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Doug's avatar

Has Gates already begun to shield the Earth from the Sun to combat Global Warming?

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LW's avatar

100%

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Dr Linda's avatar

Yeah

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Dena's avatar

Geoengineering may absolutely be the cause. I travel regularly between N. Idaho & WA state. See it almost daily in both states. It’s criminal that “they” are allowed to pollute our blue skies, dim our life giving sun & affect our food supply. I hear ID may stop the practice & will check that out. Democide indeed.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The Florida governor should invite the Russian navy to visit Miami harbor when they wrap up their Cuba visit. Tout it as a cultural exchange.

The Ruskies can offer up their tasty Borscht and the Floridians will offer their famous Gator Tacos.

Would demonstrate how inept the Biden admin is at diplomacy.

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Beckadee's avatar

Gator tacos? C'mon man everybody even us hicks in AL know that stone crabs from Joe's Stone Crab in Miami Beach is the best.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Very. First. Thing. I thought about.

America's Governor will use the most basic of diplomatic methods. . . Breaking bread together! To MAYBE show Russia that MOST Americans are not ins@ne w@rmongers.

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carily myers's avatar

I LOVE the idea

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russian could, idk, not invade their neighbors.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Benn! Haven't v heard from you for a while!

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TB's avatar

They *could*, but *would* they?

/snark

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Probably not.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

That is a great idea!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

They could have their own Fleet Week just like NYC.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Lots of little blonde babies born nine months later.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...with high cheekbones.

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carily myers's avatar

lol

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

They do but it’s not as glorious as it used to be with dozens of vessels missing

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... what an idea!

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Angk's avatar

Actually, the Russians, if feeling generous might offer up their best vodka, that generally never leaves the country. 😉😁

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Great idea..

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And we can have some Florida men raid and take over the Russian vessels to form the Cajun navy.

I love your thinking!

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Angk's avatar

Nope. It would be very inhospitable. The idea is to show peaceful coexistence. Russia was our biggest ally in WWII. There was resistance groups in the European countries, but most were captured by the n a z I. The people of America and Russia should agree to get along and shut down rattling sabers. And Jie has to go!!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

A few years later in Korea Russian pilots and ground crews were killing Americans. So much for friends, huh?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia wasn't an ally in WW2. They were simply someone we weren't fighting with. There was plenty of instances of where Americans were held prisoner by Russia.

If Russia wants peace it can happen at any time. They simply want Ukraine and their empire back.

To free people tyranny ain't cool.

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Angk's avatar

We fought with thel Russians, not against them. And, without them the outcome would not have ended as quickly, and to the US, who did much of the heavy lifting, the cost in lives, time, and expense would have been much higher and end results unknowable.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Not exactly. Russia still was being hostile to us interests at the time. Americans who were in damaged Bombers and held them prisoner. As a reminder the ussr also allied with Germany to invade Poland.

They were frenemies, not allies at all

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

“And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light lest his deeds be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been done by God.”

— Jesus, John 3:19-21 LSB

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Robin Greer's avatar

Amen! Bring the Light!

“So do not fear them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. What I tell you in the darkness, tell in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim on the housetops. And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Matthew 10:26-28

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Jamie's avatar

“They set their mouths against the heavens, and their tongue struts through the earth. Therefore his people turn back to them, and find no fault in them. And they say, “How can God know? Is there knowledge in the Most High?” Behold, these are the wicked; always at ease, they increase in riches.”

‭‭Psalm‬ ‭73‬:‭9‬-‭12‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“For behold, those who are far from you shall perish; you put an end to everyone who is unfaithful to you. But for me it is good to be near God; I have made the Lord God my refuge, that I may tell of all your works.”

‭‭Psalm‬ ‭73‬:‭27‬-‭28‬ ‭ESV‬‬

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RJ Rambler's avatar

This!

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Kim's avatar

🙏🏻

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

It’s baffling to me that on one hand, we have stories saying, “scientists messed up on Covid,” then in the other hand, we have “scientists warn that bird flu is deadly.”

The amount of back and forth information is mind boggling which is why it’s best to stay away from mainstream news and just focus on your friends, families, and loved ones.

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Donna in MO's avatar

AND focus on local and state where it is still possible to make a difference, It's too many people failing to pay attention that got us in this mess in the first place. Local is where rubber met the road in the vast majority of covid measures.

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Freebird's avatar

So right Donna! I was appalled at how “all in” our local media and medical personnel were in being instruments of fear and purveyors of lies. Gaslighting started at the local level.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

100% agree! You literally took the words right out of my mouth as I forgot to post that here. You’d appreciate this article because it focuses on the power of the local level: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-the-rebel-state

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Carol M.'s avatar

Especially since both sets of scientists made both diseases!😜

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Concerned mom's avatar

It's most likely there's ONLY ONE set of these "scientists"

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Julie Ann B's avatar

And God, our creator, who made the heavens and the earth!

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Michael Miller's avatar

Can you imagine how bad Hur’s interview with biden is, that it simply must be kept a secret? And joe totes around the “nuclear suitcase” ???

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

We own the government, keeping information away from the public, is purely partisan. Garlands refusal has no basis. It was an interview regarding a criminal investigation, there is absolutely nothing that relates to Executive Privilege. It is a suspension of disbelief in order to justify the actions by Garland.

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RU's avatar

Our gov't has WAY too many secrets. It's our information. We're the boss. It would be like the interns in a corporation having all the company's IP and trade secrets and refusing to share it with the CEO and management.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

yeah we'll "circle back" after our circle-jerk around the circular file that protects all our top secret national security docs.

so frustrating

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hiding it like the JFK documents.

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RU's avatar

It's hard to fathom. An equally scary thought: "Joe Biden" is obviously not running things, so who is?

Here's the other thing that got me. Jeff wrote "One Republican, Ohio’s David Joyce, joined every Democrat in voting ‘no.’ (Seven Democrats and one Republican abstained.)"

How bad are things with our spineless elected officials that ANY elected representative would vote "no" or abstain on this? It's our information. We own it. Biden is the least popular President in modern history. (And that is via biased polls that surely pump up his popularity beyond what it actually is.) As an elected official helping him would hurt one's own political career.

So, what good does it do them to protect this senile old pedo? I don't get it. It's like tribal, partisan politics simply for their own sake, with no actual political gain attached to it.

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Doug's avatar

Hopefully Ohioans will express their distaste for David Joyce in the next election cycle and replace him with someone who possesses a full scrotum (metaphorically speaking... Sorry, ladies).

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Kelli's avatar

David Joyce is the worst. Biggly. RINO all the way.

I wrote to his office several times during//after lockdowns, mandates, etc. Any responses I received looked like they were from a template out of Sherrod Brown's (D) office...

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Jeff C's avatar

Seems pretty obvious to me Obama is running things.

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Sherry 1's avatar

Obama is in his 3rd term. Thats why the country is so screwed up. He said he was going to “fundamentally change America” and we are seeing it.

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TW's avatar

It has to be that it would blow the whole grift wide open. Everyone would be asking why they hadn't been honest with the public from the moment they got to Congress, who paid them and in what, or what they had been threatened with...

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Peregrine's avatar

He's too feeble to be tried for those documents, but is A-OK and a vigorous man to be POTUS for four more years.

"They" think The Normals are stoopit.

The MSM should be disbanded and restarted like Public Health.

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BBS's avatar

Apparently, "too feeble" isn't a deal breaker as 40% of people polled say they are voting for him. Just as we need to pass a test to get a driver's license, maybe it's time we have to pass a test to get a "voter's license."

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Fla Mom's avatar

That just gives them a target to take over, like they have taken over everything else.

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Paige Green's avatar

I saw a T shirt that has the simple phrase:

“LEARN. THEN VOTE.”

I need to get several and wear them until after the General Election…

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Peter Schott's avatar

Does he _really_ tote around the nuclear suitcase? Wondering if that's some illusion or portable ice cream freezer and the real deal is safely squirreled away somewhere else.

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Paige Green's avatar

After the past week of Biden gaffes shared with the public, I don’t think there’d be anything surprising in the deposition that could be released that would be shocking.

Release the tapes!!!

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Donna in MO's avatar

The NBC contempt story says, "Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, said Republicans are targeting Garland after they failed to come up with enough evidence to impeach Biden."

Failed to come up with enough evidence?

I don't pay a lot of attention to Congress, but they impeached Trump twice on totally 'trumped up' charges. NO shortage of real malfeasance by Biden, and yet the limp wristed R's couldn't get it done. I thought it was 'lack of political will' more than 'lack of evidence'. Anyone want to fill me in?

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Robin Greer's avatar

Just like they couldn't overturn Obamacare because one Republican defected - John McCain. They had the power to do it but wouldn't do it.

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Doug's avatar

McCain was probably a client of Epstein, and they used that to get him to change his vote.

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Robin Greer's avatar

All I know is that I was beyond frustrated that he voted against repeal. Because of him, people who had individual insurance ended up with doubled premiums. I remember being in tears as I had to cancel our policy because it just became to expensive to continue paying for the policy. It makes me so angry every time that I think about it! But then the uni-party wants poorly run government healthcare for the non-elites. Beyond irritating 😠

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Doug's avatar

I went through a 6-month period of unemployment in 2018 and signed up for Obamacare just for emergencies. I never used it once. At the end of the year, the government sent me a bill for over $3,000 for medical coverage. I never paid it and never heard another word about it, luckily. Most expensive "medical coverage" I've ever had. Utterly ridiculous. The government needs to get out of that game - leave it to more "competent" institutions.

Actually, I'd prefer to pay my doctor directly, rather than shelling out thousands of dollars a year to middlemen who have to "qualify" my claims and support a giant insurance infrastructure. Like back in the old days.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I have no trouble believing that. You've gotta wonder what kinda of threats were made that the Supreme Court jumped through hoops to say it was constitutional. It needs to be overturned.

I'm with you. I prefer to have no middle man between me and my doctors.

The reason there are insurance programs for everything now is that it's lucrative. But what comes with that is the price of everything gets double so the middle man gets paid.

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Doug's avatar

When the feds REQUIRED me to prove that my body was insured, I knew we were headed for trouble. America ceased being free in any sense of the word when it began to cost money just to draw breath on this soil..

I think medical insurance was an outgrowth from a lot of doctors being sued in the '80's for malpractice, which drove the insurance companies to lobby to get the patients insured. Obamacare just forced those of us who were already insured to pay for those who weren't. What I couldn't understand (and therefore refused to pay for) was why I should be stuck with a $3K bill for 6 months when I was unable to pay for insurance. I think it was the other 6 months when I was where that came into play. The system is totally f'd up.

I wish I could press a button to eliminate all the bloated middle management in this country that drives the cost of everything up - and contributes to so much of the corruption we suffer from. To any middle managers in this group, I apologize... Hopefully you're not part of those problems..

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With the Energy Density Frequency Technology device I make, you don't need to have medical insurance or see doctors. Info is at https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/acc8e114-9408-43fc-a677-95d831ba5234 or email me at harmonicresearch@gmail

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Doug's avatar

reported for spam.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

McCain's wife stated on video that everybody knew what was going on with Epstein.

Yet...she said nothing.

But, she did steal pain killers from her own charity and blamed someone else.

So, there's that...

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Donna in MO's avatar

...or something. I just can't expend a lot of time or mental energy following the goings-on in Congress, they have been disappointing me for too long. Oh I write and call if I get an action alert but even that is a form letter response 6 weeks later. I did actually get a call from someone in both Sen. Hawley's and Rep Cleaver's office when I complained about anti-competitive practices at Ticketmaster back in December. But as far as I know nothing has actually happened with that.

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Doug's avatar

I wrote my congressman a few weeks ago about Biden's saber-rattling with Russia via Ukraine, and when he replied to me, it was about the Hamas/Israeli conflict. They didn't even read my letter - just saw that it was about a war and sent the form-letter response. "Representative government" - HA!

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CMCM's avatar

I once wrote my late (and not lamented) Senator Dianne Feinstein about a veteran's issue, and several months later I got a canned reply that had to do with some kind of environmental issue response. Clearly nobody had read my letter.

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Doug's avatar

Ah yes... Ol' Feiny, the warmonger. Hope she's having a great time in the afterlife. My letter was to the North Coast's Mike Thompson. I swear I don't know what he does in Washington - I think he's just liberal wallpaper, a proxy for Pelosi..

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Robin Greer's avatar

I'm sure the interns do the reply. 😜

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Doug's avatar

Oh yeah, that goes without saying... He needs to hire more attentive interns...

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Speaking of covid and healthcare, last night's FLCCC webinar was very interesting. It featured Drs. Elizabeth Mumper and Renata Moon and discussed censorship and how it will continue to affect our healthcare. According to Dr. Moon, medical students are now discouraged from asking questions! She cited one example in which a student asked a doctor about ivermectin, simply stating that he had been hearing about it and wondering if it was effective. The doctor flew into a rage and the student ended up being investigated! Dr. Moon is still facing legal battles that began when she testified at one of Senator Ron Johnson's roundtable discussions. She testified that the package inserts for the covid shots were blank, which made it impossible for her to give informed consent to her patients. This was called "potential misinformation." The link for the webinar will be up on Rumble later today. The title is

"Censoring Doctors and the Impact to Pediatric Care."

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Carrie's avatar

A colleague of mine asked about vitamin D during a hospital medical staff executive committee meeting discussion about Covid “prevention” (in quotes bc we all know the only thing establishment considers prevention), and was told “that’s just for anti vaxxers.”

I questioned the same committee proposal supporting the hospital covid jab mandate, and was lambasted in the meeting.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And those people seem to go along with the CDC disappearing women by replacing mothers with 'birthing people' and other nonsense.

Current medical bigwigs have ruined any legitimacy they had.

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Paige Green's avatar

Those same Medical Bigwigs are replacing the word “cervix” with “front hole,” to be more inclusive to trans women who - get this - claim to have cervical cancer 🤔🤪

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I went with a friend to her dr appt. Her Vit D level was low but the (well-known, senior) doctor said it was fine. There were other things, so she's changing docs. The mainstream medical establishment is not for us. We must do our own research.

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Robin Greer's avatar

It's so frustrating living in a world where people prefer to believe lies.

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Timothy Wallace's avatar

Kinda like Germany under the Nazis. "What concentration camp in my backyard?"

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

That's not ash falling from the sky in August.

It's snow.

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CHop's avatar

Later 2020, Dr. Fauci was on Je nicer Garner's podcast and said he took Vitamin D and Zinc. So......does that make him an antivaxxer?

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Years ago I was in upstate New York. On disability for autoimmune issues and depression. My psychiatrist gave me vitamin D and the insurance company questioned it. It was synthetic so it wasn’t very effective but geeze! Anyone on disability in new York is in an uphill battle. I had a doctor in Florida on vacation who gave me a test to rule out lupus. He was appalled that my doctor hadn’t done it in New York years prior.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

If memory serves, Dr Oz was kicked off the Today Show for suggesting vit D. This was early on, 2020, long before he announced his political hopes. Maybe that’s what pushed him to run 🤷‍♀️

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Fla Mom's avatar

I'm so glad I'm retired from medicine and public health. I can't imagine being stuck in such an irrational setting.

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SJ's avatar

My 12 year old went to a new pediatrician as we are in TX now. Doc ordered bloodwork and I asked if Vit D level would be checked. I was told no, that insurance doesn’t cover that. Hmmmm….by middle child went to a GI doc in AL almost 2 years ago…had a bloodwork panel done which showed low Vit D, B12 level in the neuropsychiatric range, and low iron uptake. I was told her bloodwork looked fine. The doc also refused to run any additional tests after one test showed she can’t process fructose. I suspect it’s more than that but the doc refused to pursue anything else. Took my kid to an herbalist after that and I trust the herbalist much more than these docs!

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Paige Green's avatar

I had a blood panel in 2019 that included Vit D. I had to pay for that part.

I had it checked, just D, a couple of years later and was surprised that I was not billed for it.

Maybe insurance companies are catching on, considering it’s so important to overall health?

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Robin Greer's avatar

That's insane! But that's what doctors have been conditioned to do. Just follow what the government guidelines are pharmaceutical companies tell you to do. No questions allowed.

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Carrie's avatar

Also, we have been indoctrinated on vaccines our entire training and careers. I have friends who see the negatives of the Covid jabs, and are now anti Covid jabbers, but they still think anti vaxxers are harming society.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I don't see how they can believe the current number of doses on the childhood schedule could be good. What is it now, 75+?

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Carrie's avatar

Some responses to that for their children or grandchildren are, “ we are spreading them out on our own schedule”…. Maybe a teeeeny tiny step in the right direction. I’ll keep gently sharing my thoughts with them. Some of the low hanging fruit being hep b (why would a baby need that series?). Also many diseases vaccinated against in infancy are diseases a child could easily recover from.

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Paige Green's avatar

I just recently heard that the amount of aluminum in the hep B series for babies is multiple times more than what is “safe” for an ADULT!

And it’s nonsensical for a newborn to get this shot. Aren’t mothers checked for hep B prior to giving birth? The idea of standardizing it without cause is barbaric and harmful.

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Shawn Pitcher's avatar

Same thing probably happened initially to many catholic priests and nuns who reported concerns about child abuse.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

There's no lack of censorship.

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CHop's avatar

That's so sad. My daughter's friend just became a PA. She stated to me "Why would I go out in the sun? It causes skin cancer." This makes me so sad for future.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

& they don’t teach how toxic sunscreens are

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

Law students have been encouraged to quit critically thinking as well. I attended a forum for students at UC Berkeley Nov 2019 and they started with the premise... all vaccines are safe and effective. Assuming that, what is the legal right of the individual to refuse or the government to insist? The audience could only ask questions via an app on their phone, limited to 200 characters, and no followup at the time their question was being "answered" via non answers and doublespeak and misrepresentation. No one was allowed to clap or boo.... snapping and silence instead. it was a twilight zone. I ignored their rules and asked a follow up question when they kept sidestepping answers and I was chastised afterwards by the instructor for my "poor behavior and lack of respect for the work the kids put into the organization of the meeting". I explained that I had no issue with their organization. I had issues with the speakers not answering. if I was disrespectful to anyone, it was the speakers. But really, the disrespect was from the speakers who felt they had no obligation to answer questions in a transparent and truthful way and didn't deserve to be questioned about their logic. They were talking to law students after all. debate is part of lawyering... or it used to be. I'm afraid it is being lost.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I just can't get over what has happened to us. My husband and I went on a mission trip to Guatemala in February of 2020. Shortly afterward some kind of dystopian door opened and we entered a different world. I'm grateful for the 20 or so international mission trips we took over the years, but there will be no more. In 2022, the couple we worked with in Guatemala came for a short stay in the US. The wife got a booster shot and was so severely injured that she was unable to return to Guatemala. The ministry shut down. She was a very health conscious person and I couldn't believe she took the covid shots. Fear replaced critical thinking. She had her three daughters take one shot also. So far, they seem to be okay. I'm only able to cope with this because of my faith in Christ. One of the verses I cling to is Philippians 1:21, For me to live is Christ and to die is gain.

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Concerned mom's avatar

We can't afford to forget what has been done to us throughout these last 4.5 years! The further away we get from those initial months and years of the PLAN-demic, the more at ease we seem to feel, UFF! we nearly lost it there!!

But no, we MUST not fall into that complacency, and I'm still asking the same question as when they first locked us down.... "While we're all here "safe" in our homes, what are THEY planning, conniving to do to us?"

The 2024 elections are upon us, we MUST be prepared... TAKING it ALL in PRAYER to our Lord & Saviour Jesus! You're correct in thinking fear replaced Critical Thinking Skills... For God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of POWER and LOVE and of a SOUND MIND... why is it so many of us forgot that???

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Very interesting. You can see them downgrading society right in front of our eyes.

The backward direction for law and for medicine...

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CMCM's avatar

There is real fear out there (still) regarding Ivermectin. My husband has a urologist and he has always seemed so wonderful and open, answering questions fully and all that, and has even made snide comments about the Pharma and medical industry being...well...money grubbing. Yet on my husband's last visit just a few weeks ago, he asked about getting some ivermectin for something non-covid related, and that same doctor said with a straight face "Ivermectin? I've never heard of it." I could hardly believe it.

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Concerned mom's avatar

AllDayChemist.com for Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine

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Based Florida Man's avatar

ADC is good. You have to use a bank account, and they're in India. I've used them.

Also for usa based: petmectin

https://www.virex.health/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53

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Concerned mom's avatar

Thanks for sharing. We give our dog the same tablets we take, although I dip them in a bit of peanut butter for ease :) 12 mg tablet once a month

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Good idea. Hadn't thought of using them for pets. Even though that's what it says to do on the side of the box LOL

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Tonya's avatar

Why do they think they need to improve "the public's trust in public health science"?

Public health science has been exposed as the fraud that it is, and it needs to be abolished altogether. Whenever they talk about improving the public's trust, they never suggest doing it by becoming more trustworthy.

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

Haha, no, they always mean telling better lies.

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Tonya's avatar

Precisely!

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Copernicus's avatar

And better convincing people to believe them.

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Anthony's avatar

That's exactly what they mean when they say they need to improve their messaging. lol

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RU's avatar

It's always been a leftist tool of control. Centralized, authoritarian decision making affecting the lives of every American by edict? A statists' dream come true.

Considering health outcomes have only gotten worse over the last 50 years or so, it's time for it to go. (Same should be said for Dept. of Education, too, which serves the same purpose - leftist control - and has the same 0% effectiveness track record.)

We should hope that Chevron deference case goes our way. It might help with the bureaucratic insanity.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

I suspect we're well into negative efficacy territory with the Department of Education.

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Crixcyon's avatar

No way I will trust any of these cretins.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Well, they lost a whole lot of "public's trust" so ... improving it is essential to being able to do anything else to foist stuff on the public. That whole "trust is lost in buckets" thing.... They lost it in barrels.

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Jeff C's avatar

I'm with you Tonya. Theoretically the idea of a Public Health department makes sense as public health threats can be real, and a coordinated response could be helpful. But we've now conclusively seen these types of bureaucracies attract tyrannical hypochondriacs who cannot be trusted. They likely went into public health in the first place due to their hypochondria, it drove them to inflict their illness on the world. It's similar to how so many psychologists originally entered the field in some vain attempt to fix their own problems.

But they don't fix the problem and their fantastical thinking makes things worse while destroying civil liberties.

Better to get rid of the whole thing and let people just use their own common sense. Yes there are foolish people who will do stupid things. But some things you just can't change.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Whatever trust they had they lost post Covid.

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Rob D's avatar

I don't know how we can ever ignore people like Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates who were rubbing their hands together and licking their lips when they stated that ze "covid 19" "pandemic" presented a "great opportunity".... this whole thing was about SO much more than just a scary "virus". It encompassed everything they are trying to do to the world: Control the people, control the "environment" and the climate, "remake" food in their devilish image and a plethora of other pet projects they've been trying to shove down people's throats for years. If the people would have really seen the big picture about "covid" I'm thinking many less would have fallen for it. This isn't, and hasn't ever been, just about a "scary, scary, "virus"....

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BTeboe's avatar

The 4th Reich is here and it goes by the name of World Economic Forum. Somehow the people with billions/trillions of dollars think they should control the rest of us or at least make us slaves.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I can't understand why the smaller countries, especially the African countries, would allow a bunch of rich fat white men tell them what do to.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Some of them didn't AND those countries' presidents found themselves NOT alive... :(

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Robin Greer's avatar

People who think they are gods are very scary indeed.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

“But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.”

‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4‬:‭20‬-‭24‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/eph.4.20-24.NKJV

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Peter Schott's avatar

In more "bills introduced that aren't going to go anywhere" news, I saw that Luna introduced something to attempt to ban high fructose corn syrup and artificial dyes from our foods. I fully support that idea, but I suspect many of our congress-critters will find their wallets full from all sorts of special interests lobbying against that bill. :(

I will say that Garland's behavior makes me increasingly glad that he wasn't rubber-stamped for SCOTUS. He'd be even more of a disaster there.

As always, thank you for the updates, even if they are "spam". Enjoy the vacation!

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TW's avatar

And all they'd have to do is tweak the formula and it's suddenly not HFCS. It's a hydra, unfortunately.

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TB's avatar

I'd prefer a requirement that all foods containing more than a certain % of sugar be labelled, and let people make their own choice about it.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

The Russian flotilla "heckles" the US fleet, lol. Putin laughs while Joe squats and squints.

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Valerie's avatar

Im thinking that Putin is showing more maturity and restraint than our leadership in recent months. Do I like Russian ship conducting exercises off the coast of FL? Absolutely not. Do I understand? Also absolutely.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I'm rooting for the Russkie navy.

Far more competent than the US Navy at this point with their pronouns and drag queens.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The Russian navy has taken a beating lately.

They lost a flagship and a dozen other major vessels including a submarine…in a land war.

Go join them.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I like that Putin is obvious in his pushback, getting American's attention. Maybe he's trying to wake American's up to the reality of the escalation. Maybe he is hoping that we'll put some pressure on DC.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia vessels visited Cuba in 2019.

Where was your panic then?

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Who said anything about panic? But now that you mention it, hopefully Old Joe is in a panic.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Jeff’s post says “Cuban missile crisis”.

I’m guessing Jeff didn’t care Russians visited in 2019 with the exact same ship?

Having seen how the Russian navy has been brutalized so far there is nothing to panic over.

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Jamie's avatar

I was just speaking with someone yesterday about the restraint he has shown… It is quite possible it is because we are, not yet, truly a threat to him… do he think he’s laughing at such foolishness too?

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Sam's avatar

Our wonder weapons have been no threat to Russia. Tanks go boom. Missiles get screwed up with electrical weapons. Jets also go boom. Meanwhile Ukraine can’t find enough people to replace the dead and wounded.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Ask yourself why Russia is losing air defense assets regularly to ancient missiles and why storm shadows and scalps hit targets in crimea including

The Black Sea headquarters.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Putin? Restraint?

The guy can’t keep his hands off his neighbors and launched the largest land war in Europe since ww2

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SB's avatar

I think Putin is trying to send American voters a message that Biden better lose by a landslide.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My father, born 1915, and LtCol,USAR, remarked that "Democrats get us into wars, then Republicans are elected to get us out of wars". Seems to me--Geo Bush the younger being exception--pretty much so.

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Sam's avatar

Both parties are now pro war. Hence the bipartisan vote to keep sending Ukraine more weapons.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yup. Hence, “Uniparty”. Glad my father died when he did.

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Sam's avatar

I was stunned when I saw vets hugging Zelensky at the anniversary ceremony. They hugged the guy who represents the same Nazis they fought against.

Mainstream media covered the Nazis for 8 years until Russia crossed the border and then they denied that there were any in Ukraine.

Now Blinken gave permission to arm them again.

Every vet in America should be appalled by this decision.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What is he going to do?

Attack America?

His personal army was massacred by Americans in Syria. He didn’t raise a finger as his guys got hit with cannon fire, jdams, and 155s.

Not a thing.

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JR911sc's avatar

I’m so tired of Rinoplicans ineffectually “shooting for the moon” but failing to control the purse strings!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Shooting US the moon?

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carily myers's avatar

lol

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Charlotte's avatar

With the amount of money we have poured into the DoD for the last several decades, the fact that we don’t have better fighter jets or drones on hand at the ready for a military event, better mean we have 7-10 super cool UFO’s parked somewhere. It’s just incredible how many people at the Pentagon, DoD, NIH, DOE and other departments need a pressure washer to clean out the wasteful and dangerous cockroaches and rats…

As for the rain in FL, what’s going on with the weather engineering down there? Gates is definitely doing his mosquito experiments trying to spread dengue, I bet he’s also doing geoengineering and he’s selling his services to the government…

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Those are the same idiots who paid $600 for a toilet seat.

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TW's avatar

And how about admitting in the press that we don't even HAVE these things yet? Is that a psyop or sheer stupidity? Empty threat or bluff?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We do have better fighter jets.

I’d suggest looking into the f35 and what it is capable of doing.

There’s a reason they are selling them Iile hot cakes.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

FaceBook = LifeLog = Darpa = Intel = Censorship

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carily myers's avatar

YESSS

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Crixcyon's avatar

The goog can't wait to get its hands on it.

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