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I don't know if an independent Kennedy helps or hurts Biden/Newsom/Trump but I bet the voting machine companies are currently working overtime.

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It might complicate knowing how many ballots need to be harvested....

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So true. I don’t blame him for leaving the demorats why does Trump stay in the Republican Party?

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Especially after that vote about sending more money to Ukraine. 101 ‘republicans’ voted to send money 🤷‍♀️

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they are traitors to America, with the border crisis in our country.

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How can we find out who voted to continue sending money to Ukraine? I want to make sure that I don't vote for any of them and come election time, point that out.

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Sh#* Sh#* Sh#* both of Oregon’s republicans voted to send more money to Ukraine 😡😡😡

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Look for bulging bank accounts with fresh-smelling money.

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I am sure Rick Scott did..he sent a response to my letter about not sending a certain weapon to Ukraine and his response was a diatribe of ridiculous and paranoid Russophobic statements. 🙄

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great question

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Yes I would love to see the list of rinos who voted to continue the ruination of this country

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Here it is !! Contact your state representatives and let them know how you feel !

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/gop-controlled-house-approves-another-300-million-aid/

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Good to see my Rep didn’t vote for it. LaHood, Illinois. As a former Dem I’m ok with him. He promptly answers (or staffers) inquiries. Votes mostly my way. Not always but.....🤷🏼‍♀️

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South Dakota's Dusty Johnson, a supposed republican, voted for it.

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He’s always been a weasel.

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Because it is (or has been) impossible for third party candidates to win.

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Ross Perot almost won. The interesting aspect of this could be how the delegates vote and the possibliity of the vote going to the House of Representitives.

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Ross Perot gave Bill Clinton the presidency.

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I am not any kind of political strategist. I've been writing in RFK Jr. the last two elections. I will vote for him. Him running is what matters in the scheme of things.* May God protect him, since "the DNC/deep state/ and various Biden shit heads won't.

*I'm not underplaying the significance of winning, but we are all moving forward the best way we know how.

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Ross Perot dropped out because the Khazarians threatened to bomb his daughter's wedding if he did not. By the time he reentered, it was too late., which the Khazarians knew. He would have won I believe. A whole lot of conservatives quietly voted for him I found out years later. My beloved John Wayne like boss, my parents, and more. The reason they were quiet is they were afraid of being vilified for "a wasted vote" when it was so important to defeat Clinton.

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Maybe Bobby will give Trump his next presidency.

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I disagree Oregon Kathy, GHW Bush (code name werewolf) was a lousy VP and worse presidential candidate. Many conservatives would not vote for him. As we know in hindsight the Bush machine is deep state, evidenced by who is behind the DeSantis run for President.

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Sep 30, 2023·edited Sep 30, 2023

I don't think the facts of the case support that.

https://skeshel.substack.com/p/no-perot-didnt-cost-bush-41-the-white

EDIT: sorry about the paywall. It's sound analysis, though, and if you're genuinely interested in election integrity issues, I'd encourage you to throw Capt. K some bones.

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The House would NEVER give Trump or RFK the presidency... It would be Newsome or Biden AND Romney or McCarthy or something for VP....

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But i thought it was the people that decide?🤔

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A better analogy might be Roosevelt under the Bull Moose Party, which gave us Woodrow Wilson.

But for a little more depth on Perot's Reform Party and its fate, you might enjoy https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/proof-of-mass-mind-control-through

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I've asked this question all along. Continuously! One reason for Trump to stay with the Elephants is the party established voter base, and an existing huge party base alienated alienated from the party elites. And so why upset a reflexive voting impulse just to jump ship ... and for what gain? Instead, go with the brand name and reap the harvest of discontent. Pure pragmatism.

Everyone knows that Trump is an outsider to the existing Uni-Party elites, but maybe not to a significant faction within the Apex Elite category which sees The Franchise in danger of tanking and therefore sees a compelling self-survival need for rolling out a Significant Pivot away from dysfunctional Woke Everything. I use the Apex Elite designation to signify the Puppet Masters which are above political parties and certainly above the greater part or greatest part of what we deign to call the Deep State. My presumption is that money makes the world go around and that the prime control point for the money control is central banking. The Money is under threat of systemic failure and something HAS TO BE DONE. Trump may well be a part of this 'something must be done' moment.

Nothing here is by accident ... even if we (me included) have a difficult time in seeing the Wizard on the other side of the curtain.

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Trump is taking over the Republican Party. Much more labor and cost effective than creating a whole new party. And since they have no spines or courage, he will succeed.

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I was thinking the same thing --

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I need to see the list of 101 dalmatians to see if my Oregon rep. Cliff Bentz is in that grouping.

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I was afraid of that. Both Oregon Republican reps voted Ukraine, against the interest of those who elected them.

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Yes, he is.

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The election results aren't dependent on ballots or voting machines.

"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do." Joseph Stalin, currently living in the personality of Joe Biden

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Good one…and so discouraging to see the capes falling off of our leaders, their true identities showing, for those of us who too long gave benefit of doubt. ~~~ I recently binged on Supernanny videos, probably watched 6 or 7 full videos, while purging and sorting papers, and now !! I finally understand what has happened to our current leaders, entitled all……These shocking stories of families, parents of 3-5 kids, screamers, brats, talk-backs, spitting at Mom, spoiled, no guided direction to find their talents, their family living rooms as big as my whole place! Tons of toys all over—imagine their Christmas mornings!— no pickup of same, stomping on each other, no directed activities, no directed bed times….oh yeah a revelation…..by then, of course, adult sized, but not adults….so here’s the answer: They have carried these attitudes of permissiveness to the homeless camps, to the hordes of illegals and to criminals who get off in a couple of days….same parenting style, don’t make ‘em mad, be kind. What rot! ~~~the most amazing and shocking part of it, that parents have no clue what legal miseries ten years ahead will bring these kids….pregnant, shoplifting, 4 wives, maybe in sequence….and what else….yah, sure…..

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The overuse of hyphens and ellipses break up the flow of text and make it more difficult to read. Large paragraphs aren't great either, although I've seen much worse than yours.

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And in large part "the super delegates"...I remember in 2016 when Sanders had 85% of the popular vote in VT but super delegate Senator Leahy went with HRC...when asked why? His response? "Well, I promised her"

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None of that changes the fact that when voting fraud occurs, it usually has nothing to do with fraudulent voters appearing at polls in mass numbers to vote in the name of dead or imaginary voters. In the fraud of 2020, after the polls were closed, boxes of fraudulent ballots were scanned through the electronic machines to create fake votes. In addition, the electronic voting machines were programmed to calculate votes instead of merely counting them. Finally, the vote totals on the tote boards on television coverage decreased for one candidate while increasing in the same amount for a different, which could only be called theft of votes.

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Oh and get this the DNC is adding SUPER super delegates....and ZERO debates! Most Democrats don't even know RFK jr is running and if they do they say, "oh the anti-vaxer?" Beyond disgusted

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Again, they ballots must be allocated to people on the rolls who have not voted - that can get complicated and take time - hence why it takes weeks to count ballots and 2AM ballot drops...

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Ballots are provided to voters at the polling place and collected and tallied after they have voted.

If votes are tallied as the ballots are completed, there is no reason for it to not be completed at the time that the polls close. The only thing that has changed since 1787 has been the quality of the paper, parchment not having been very good.

Money is allocated, not ballots.

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That's a very good point!

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If they need to harvest more ballots, they are going to have to plant more seeds - ie - enlist a few more printers to produced the desired votes at scale.

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Sep 30, 2023·edited Sep 30, 2023

They're working on it--trying to give the vote to the tens of millions of illegals. I wonder what kind of propaganda is programmed into all those free phones every last one of them has.

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Since ballots are turned into manipulatable images in the machines, all they have to do is change the image. Voila.

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That's one way.

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Its a bit more complicated e.g. they have to allocate the ballots to those on the voting rolls who are not voting etc

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And the voter rolls are stuffed with phony ballots, so it's not that difficult. Then when canvassing is done and affidavits signed proving the voter does not exist at the address on file judges rule 'no standing' as the vote has been certified by county clerks and Secretary of State and the evidence is never looked at.

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Yes! This is what I am thinking!!!

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Exactly! The idea is to isolate the Donkeys by large enough percentages that stolen votes cannot possibly be believed in by the electorate.

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It would likely take dem votes from the dem candidate. However, many reps are considering RFK since Trump supported the vax so... I am undecided and a registered dem since the 80s. I keep it that way to vote for the dem in the primaries and plus I get opportunities to vote multiple times in the mail by companies sending me things BUT my rep husband got nothing...

I would like to see RFK as a VP with Trump. They would likely be unstoppable together.

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I want to see RFK as Secretary of HHS. But I fear that big pharma would have him, in keeping with family history, assassinated before he could take down that cabal.

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I am afraid to put a heart on your comment, but I think you are right

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Probably right on... Nobody survives if they oppose the cabal which makes me believe everyone in any famous position has sold their soul.

Only God can change it and a person's heart too. God has plans for us to prosper so...

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I followed several of the all day panels, AZ, PA and maybe a couple other states, initiated by Rudy G in the week following the 2020 election. I think back then there were around 2000 citizen affidavits of wrong doings they had viewed while assisting officially in the voting. All sorts of egregious abuses of procedure. There too I heard of Jovan Pulitzer, holder of 200 inventions. Recently published a book too, what a guy!

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They never proved it was a fair election even in the courts. It proved to me that it was the opposite.

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He would make an excellent Secretary of HHS, but I fear the same fate for him as you do especially since he isn't afforded the same security detail as other presidential candidates. Why is that? Blows my mind. As big as big pharma is I really don't think any amount of security will protect RFK Jr. or anyone else taking down that mafia corporation.

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Wow. Wouldn’t that be fabulous what a match

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But I think they would have liked to assassinate Trump, too, and so far he's stayed safe--from that, at least.

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Frankly, I was shocked no one appeared to have tried. At least, not that we know about.

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Sep 30, 2023·edited Sep 30, 2023

But last night, Nancy wrote that, “I am not usually "gripped" by politicians but what Newt said about Trump being not just a candidate but a movement in the country made me bug my 👀 out like shit, yes.”

I like much about him too, but I think RFK still has too much of the liberal agenda that makes me fearful for this country’s future. I think DT’s life is in danger, but while I hate the turmoil and yes, the narcissism (even though that is part of what made him effective; think NK), I now think the extreme hatred would just be redirected at anyone who opposes the OWO Agenda. Look at MSM attacks on RD when he was perceived as more of a threat. We need someone who will firmly take a stand for America (NATO, WHO, Paris Accord & more). Confession here, my 👀 moment - I did not truly understand what he meant by the deep state, and his ‘they’re not after me; they’re after you and I’m in their way’ comment. Talk about finally getting it! 👀 on steroids!

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One big tell as to the proposition that it is 'not business as usual' now going on was recent news that the Heritage Foundation and other large organizations were together compiling list in the thousands of names to replace key federal government department and agency staffing. Heritage is not an 'outsider' organization, and that Heritage is doing this means that maybe somebody means business this time around. Trump is an 'insider outsider' type of guy, one who knows the rules of the game, and yet has the talent to push the envelope in new and better directions. He would fit to a tee this 'shift' plan to pivot the power structure. Just saying.

We may have gotten Biden as a place holder for a dual purpose. One, to foment overwhelming dissatisfaction within the electorate and Dems included (if so, it worked). And also because 'the next thing' needed time to organize and get ready to go operational. This is pure speculation ... and only by footprints, tracks seen. But on the other hand, I would not be surprised if I saw an engineered quiet 'counter-coup' in play counter to the Great Banana Republic Election of 2020. And by the way, this would make entire sense out of DJT post J6. To wit, DJT has acted as he has and bided his time because he knew the next big political set-up was already in the works, getting set up ... getting ready to be rolled out.

Pure speculation on my part. The only thing I, generally speaking, is that single individuals here and there seldom make the world go around. And also, sad to say, that the people are always herded this way and that by the Invisible Hand.

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I was thinking Biden is used as a wake up call to the sleepers too.

The powers know how to manipulate people and it works. Worse is they use horrid torture tactics on innocent people.

It is a matrix we will never know all of it because it is hidden and vast.

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Exactly. And hard to know. Like you say, everything is hidden. And one must therefore tread ever so carefully with the speculative side of things.

I am guessing that The Pivot began with Musk and Twitter. But maybe that was only the visible side of it. These people way above things certainly have a longer time line frame than do I by daily habit.

I am beginning to think that the Beria Moment, when even the high level behind the curtain people begin to feel threat to their lives and functioning, long ago. Eventually the world gravitates back towards normal because it has to because nobody can function in insane chaos forever.

But then again, we still have democide, land and asset looting, and so on to deal with it. It's really gotten to be a very ugly world.

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Could be the birthing pains of what is to come... It literally is Biblical.

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Excellent points!!!! Folks were tired of the vitriol and the used a known name, his “kindly” (I see evil; always have) persona and the plandemic to get a few votes. You know the rest. Now we have vitriol on steroids and they applaud it. Should scare the pants off anyone awake.

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Who or what is really running things?

AI? Secret soc? satan himself it seems...

Look at several politicians that are not the same as before. Celebs too.

They could just replace anyone they take out. People do have doubles so...

Is it really Biden Trump Fetterman Fox Damar???

This is a show in the matrix....

However my reality is blessed and I trust only God.

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Trump has been well protected and the deep state is gone. Red October tomorrow. Lots going to start happening out in the open.

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"I get opportunities to vote multiple times in the mail . . . "

NOT a good idea to hint at having committed a federal crime.

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Only said I was sent mail by companies to vote multiple times. They committed the crime. I wish I kept the mailers but who knew back then what would transpire?

I only vote in person and 1x.

Thanks i didn't consider that assumption could be twisted but we do have to be careful.

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I complete my early vote ballot and carry it to the polls

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That's good too. I like to wait till the end to vote hoping they can't guess and make it more difficult to cheat ahead strarwgy.

I wonder if they will shut down vote counting in swing counties again. Nobody ever explained all the things that appeared to be cheating... Not fair

I am going to volunteer at the polls.

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I stroll down to my paper ballot polling place 3 blocks away. But i feel less patriotic every stroll I make.

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We go down with our cheat sheets, fill them in at the office and turn them in. It’s “quality time “ 😁

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Here in California, pretty much all of us are mailed ballots about a month to 6 weeks before any election. Drop boxes go up a bit after that. I always turn mine in in the last day or two, and I take it to the dropbox at my local city administrative building. Who knows what happens to it after that, though.

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Exactly CMCM, just as in Oregon. No chain of custody of ballots. I asked the election office if I could see my ballot to verify it was tallied correctly and the county said they have no way of doing that.

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Yeah . . . look at how the FBI for months hunted down people who just were IN Washington D.C. that day or the day before, and they are STILL hunting, harassing, and persecuting anyone they can!

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That is so wrong and probably true but how do we really even know? How is biden the POTUS?

DC is not owned by the US. Why is DC where our gov sits, not part of the US?

So they can do what they want...

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D.C. is part of the U.S., it's just a "district" and not a State, just as territories are not States.

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It's fine. just tell them you are an illegal immigrant . They won't even make you show ID

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¡No hablo englase!

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That's exactly what is going to happen. What a duo!!! Trump will step down eventually and Kennedy will be President. Deep state is completely dismantled right now. Red October tomorrow starts it all off. Out in the open though now. Can't wait. I'm so excited!!!

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RFK already said no to being Trump's VP

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I can't remember who exactly said, the "VP isn't worth a pitcher of warm spit". RFK JR. in as a VP is a waste of his capabilities and integrity.

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Agree. But he would make a great surgeon general.

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Attorney General would be more like it. Joseph Ladapo for Surgeon General.

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Works for me!

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No that wouldn’t be a match, they are doers each in their own style. Each have differing histories and personal purpose

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Yes RFK as Trumps running mate.

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Sep 30, 2023·edited Sep 30, 2023

That said, I’d like that option too! Parties working together for the betterment of America. Historic!

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I might be working overtime on changing my voter registration......maybe....possssibly. The situation is quite "fluid."

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Ooohhh! A new immutable set of voters awaits your decision. I'm notifying the circuit court now.

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We will not have any more presidential elections. I know it sounds crazy, but it true. Full disclosure of the truth is coming. Get ready for a huge download of Info coming across your TV screen or radio. Just do not Fear. Trump is in full control.

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Why change it. Multiple voting opportunities exist

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😂

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You win best comment today 💯😂

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Yep, indeed.

So have you connected with your state election integrity group?

The RNC recently voted unanimously to approve a Resolution for Return to Excellence in Voting. Search for it online, read it, and call and email your county clerk, county commissioners, county council, and state legislators to let them know about it and ask what they are going to do to align your county/state with the Resolution statements. Be the mosquito.

I told our Dem officials that it’d be a shame for the Rs to get all the credit for election reform…🤣

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Thinking that having two candidates that are top shelf, aware and have the country's best interest as their focus is a win-win.

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The clever though not ethical folks the Democrats clearly have sitting around conference tables all day are clearly plotting their next move. Their attempt to kick him out of the Democrat nomination process worked. Now they have to work on part two. They're evil marxists, but you have to hand it to them for their ability play the hand dealt to them. After all, look how they got their weekend at Bernie's candidate elected in 2020. Yes they cheated. And got away with it. But they got what they wanted.

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I’m so happy RFK Jr is making this move! Now I have someone I can vote for!

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Absolutely!

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“addition by subtraction” or vice versa?

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I’d say to call in Bill Apter at Pro Wrestling Illustrated as a consultant. He has decades of experience of writing stories and tabulating results ahead of time.

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Very soon there will be no party. Trump is currently our President and Kennedy is going to be VP. This will all be announced to the Country.

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It's a PR stunt from RFKjr's staff. They know we know that the entire political system in the US is broken from the false left to the false right, and from the federal top to the municipal bottom. RFKjr is doing his level best to take advantage of this fact.

Fifteen years ago it was "YES, WE CAN!!!". Seven years ago it was "DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!" What are the brainless masses going to be screaming at the top of their lungs next year?

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On what, pray tell?

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Therefore we do not lose heart, but though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is being renewed day by day. For momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison, while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen; for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

— 2 Corinthians 4:16-18 NAS95

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Amen and amen….so hard, so painful to see what’s being done, and not~~~and dear friends and family who refuse to read or listen. But keep on keeping on

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This is one of my fav verse groups in the Bible! So encouraging!

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Yes, good to read it slowly and really think about what it says.

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Sep 30, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

In a government shutdown, federal employees who are furloughed receive back pay. They basically get a paid vacation. But government contractors like me, and there are more of us than actual federal employees, do not. We file for unemployment and rely on savings. Many of people are going to be hurt by this. I keep hoping someone will acknowledge and report this. Regardless, I stand with the shutdown if it gets rid of omnibus bills.

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You are a true patriot, Miss Laurie, putting the good of the country above your own interests. Wish our politicians would do the same.

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I worked as a contractor for the FAA through a shutdown. Had to apply for unemployment. The fed employees absolutely thought of it as a vacation since they knew they’d get back pay after the fact. The few deemed essential who had to keep working, later fought for time off equal to the “vacation” the non essential workers got. They’ll never give up all the cushy perks, when hired they go thru months of training to learn how to use all those perks.

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We need to pare the federal workforce down dramatically. They are the behemoth that is sinking our country. The Permanent Administrative State always chokes out the private sector eventually.

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Absolutely right. It’s one of Vivek’s campaign promises that I love--to get rid of a truckload of departments like Education, etc., that should be at the state level anyway. That’ll pare down a lot.

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I like thar too, and Trump should have done that on his first go-round.

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True Credenda, and you can thank federal employee unions. Even Democratic President FDR was against collective bargaining for government employees.

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Sorry you get robbed if this happens... It is wrong.

Nobody should get back pay if some do not get it. Maybe they would do their job then and avoid the issue in the first place.

They give to themselves including benefits and retirement...It should be stopped and the huge savings go into the failing social security fund they plundered.

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No one should get back pay period. Why should I pay for someone’s vacation?

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... but if they didn't pay them, they might quit! :o

(/sarc)

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Yep, no rules just for thee…when we have socialized medicine, where the budget is always the bottom line, think they won’t have their own private HC?

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Many people in the private sector are thrown out of work by terrible games government policies. The solution to government contractors being shafted by a shutdown is to shaft government employees as well. Perhaps then they'd start behaving in a fiscally responsible manner just at as the rest of us must.

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Many contracts are funded off cycle and will be working with pay as normal. My military source has contractors who get funded in January, so no effect for them. It’s unfortunate you were funded at the time of the fiscal year.

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As an "essential" federal employee -- we don't get furloughed, but our leave is cancelled and we are required to work throughout with the promise of eventual backpay. We're immensely jealous of the ones that get a paid vacation. And I can't speak for everyone, but I at least feel like it's terribly unfair that you guys don't get the same treatment despite the paychecks coming from the same source.

This whole system is stupid and I hope you get paid promptly.

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I was on active duty and so automatically classified as 'essential' in one of the shutdowns I was in, in the '00s. The civilian federal employees who were not classified essential and sent home were offended! Those of us left behind to work were saying, "I wish you could take my place!"

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That is exactly how it will work. It's going to be painful but it will be quick. Idk if you know about EBS. When that happens, when everything is over, the Jubilee starts with no more pain, no more being a slave in our own country living paycheck to paycheck. Our Wealth is coming Miss Laurie. It is so close, get excited and be expecting lots of money!!!

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McCarthy is a traitorous swamp rat.

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RE: an RFK Jr. run as an Independent, having had the opportunity to read comment sections from a multitude of great Substackers like C&C over the past couple of years, IMHO, Kennedy will draw voters from all demographics, both sides of the aisle, etc., because I read daily and see the GOP/DEM parties disaffected everywhere. If ever there was a time for a candidate to run as an Independent on behalf of a beleaguered nation, it is now.

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Exactly. If he was a bit more pro life I would vote for him. May God protect him from harm.

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Sep 30, 2023·edited Sep 30, 2023

Okay, I’m going to be banned from C&C for saying this, but please hear me out. I’m pro-life! Had 2 mc, and can’t even fathom having an abortion (outed myself, didn’t I?). But, the majority of the country is not, and I think there are times. The “no exceptions” or talk of a federal ban dramatically looses votes for the R. With the future of our Country at stake, maybe, just maybe some compromise is to be considered. Not exactly relevant, but when faced with medical issues for which there is a near perfect tmt and folks still want to “leave it in God’s hands,” I remind them that it was God who gave us the knowledge & skills to treat. Does God give a special something to those who would have been born with a horrific condition or into a horrific life? IDK. Janice?

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I don’t think this group will ban you for having an opinion. I hope we aren’t like the woke how cancel anyone who disagrees. I for one will not. Here’s my story. I was in a terrible accident while I was 10 weeks pregnant. I lost a limb (Bk). Had a broken ankle and broken hand. 2 children at home 4 and 1. I prayed and prayed not knowing what to do with this pregnancy. Many thought I should abort including the doctors. Finally God answered my prayers and I miscarried. He took the decision from me.

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I'm so sorry you had to endure such turmoil. It must have been especially traumatic not knowing what to do, then having the miscarriage and loss of a child. I've had 2 so I know that pain and anguish. However, I just felt compelled by love from above to tell you something someone else shared with me at my low moments and it is this, you will have eternity in heaven with your child when your time comes. You will meet him or her face to face and this child will look to you and call you momma. That child WILL be there when it's time. And best of all, you will be whole, without blemish (not that you are blemished in any way now) but whole as God made you. Knowing that I will be greeted by my babies helped me in my grief and I hope this also gives you comfort. It's absolutely true. Our God is such a loving Father. ❤️

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Your words are so powerful. I live in the shadow of grace and forgiveness for an abortion I had at 17. I was raped by my then-boyfriend. My rave yo the abortion clinic is understandable and predictable but I can see it was wrong. The abortionist was wrong, the planned parenthood receptionist was wrong. My poor girlfriend who drive me to and from was wrong. I wonder all the time about this ... I have been blessed with five children and have e joyed peace and forgiveness for 35 years. Could it be a tall curly-haired young man will meet me as I cross over and call me mama??? I dare not speculate

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Forgiveness is essential, especially for self. Jesus carries our burdens, our sorrows and knows our souls better than any other. You are loved so completely. I have often wondered how I will be greeted in heaven by my two, whether they be as small babies or grown. I just don't know. But I DO know I will know them as my children as soon as I see them. That gives me such great comfort to know they are there.

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Bless you for sharing

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Wow, what a story. What courage, yes indeed I know God answered your prayers. He saw your heart I’m so sorry though

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Thank you for sharing, and for confirming that we are a tolerant group! So sorry for your losses, and hope God has blessed you many times over! (A bit puzzled on the docs’ recommendation, and you certainly don’t need to share, but seems a bit unusual. ER doc for many years, and we always fought tooth and nail to save the baby! Best way to do that, save the Mom!)

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This was in 1987. Wasn’t in emergency room that the recommendation was made. It was after 3 surgeries and lots of pain meds.

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So sorry, and thanks again for sharing! ❤️🙏🏻❤️

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Bless you all for sharing and also for pointing to forgiveness and the Lord and Heaven that awaits us. There is grace and healing even in experiences as painful as what all you have been through. I am reminded of Psalm 103:2-5 which exhorts us to remember all the Lord’s benefits who forgives our sins, heals our afflictions, redeems our lives from the pit, crowns us with love and compassion, and satisfies our desires with good things. When our situations seem most dire, we need to call this to mind. Blessings to you all!

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On the politics of the abortion issue, you are probably right that Rs lose some votes in some areas if the candidate is truly pro-life. I think that just means that we need to find and field candidates who can articulate their position in such a way as to relate it to love for all of humanity (which Ds like to claim they do - love, that is) and to positive 'lived experiences' and outcomes in human connectedness, compared to only materiality and self-centeredness. Young people are committing suicide, murdering each other, and dying of fentanyl poisoning in such numbers now that these are leading causes of death for their age group in most states. They can tell they're missing something; they need help identifying what's missing in their lives (and I don't mean just children, and not just God, though it's that, too, of course, but connectedness and higher purpose). I think many Republican candidates aren't truly pro-life (and not truly other conservative constitutional positions, either), because they cant articulate them outside of talking points written by someone else. It took Trump (who's not great on the life issue) to show Rs how to deny the premises of a question by a "journalist," and he's a terrible debater; he just has 'fight,' based on principles, and many/most other Republicans don't.

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Dont hate me, but on the abortion topic I think that Nikki Hailey was pretty spot on.

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I didn't watch the debate, so I don't know what she said.

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It was thehttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/27/republican-lawmaker-nikki-haleys-abortion-2024-debate/70695303007/ first debate.

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This is a world in which being conflicted is the to be expected. So don't worry it. You are who you are. Who else could you be?

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We are likely going to end up with pro choice candidates on both sides so we might as well go with the guy who’s pro life when it comes to medical tyranny.

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My concern is that pro choice is a tell for how someone really views the value of a human life. And if they don’t value a human life in the womb, they won’t value mine, when I’m old and feeble, a useless eater, a social burden. It’s all a continuum and when I give an account on that Day can I say that it was more important to get prochoice R’s in office than to stand for life?

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RFK is a gun-grabber and pro-abort.

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At least he seems inclined to tell the truth about the dangers of the toxxine.

I sure wish Trump would get around to mentioning that the toxxine:

1. does not work

2. is very dangerous

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He really is a Democrat in every sense but what scares me is that he is a zealot on climate change and THIS is the main vehicle that the globalists are using to bring about their one-world governance. He’s duped and doesn’t realize it. Eventually, out of irrational fear he could go along with all the draconian measures to control humanity. Starting with “overpopulation”. Abortion makes perfect sense to these people.

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Yes that’s scary…..Australia and that bunch, not doing so well now are they? But be sure to keep schools gun free zone, so no one will be ready to protect the kids.

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If he would see some of the street videos done by Created Equal and other pro life fighters he may change his mind. FYI ….And lifelike models of 10-12 week preborns could fit in a doll house crib pretty realistically. Most peepul have no clue. Waketh uppeth!

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We can hope and pray for this. But direction of this country is in God’s hands. If he takes our Empire down (and it appears that we are headed in that direction despite Jeff’s cheery optimism ((which blesses me too))) then it’s what we deserve. To whom much has been given much is required, and we have been showered with so much grace since our founding. I pray for a national repentance, like God granted Nineveh, but I don’t expect to see it.

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Time for Rand Paul to run as an independent. He and RFK would make a good team. RP would counter RFK's more liberal ideas.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Sorry. That was just funny.

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That's me to a tee: GOP activist for 43 years; never voting for them again (with possible limited exceptions.)

Have never voted Democrat and don't plan to start. However, I plan to vote for RFK Jr. and recently put his bumper sticker on my truck, which sported a Trump - Pence sticker before.

Happily told my wife this morning "Looks like I'm going to be spared the ignominy of ever voting Democrat."

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I’d love him in cabinet position. Not sure anyone, outside the 2 parties can win (yes, I voted for Perot), mainly because we have sooo many who don’t think beyond the party line. Sad, but I think true. And as much as I love what he says, this country needs a hard, hard right and I don’t think he’s there yet. Maybe later.

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Perhaps RFK’s switch to Independent is the catalyst we finally need to destroy the 2-party duopoly.

I know, it’s not likely. And the Perot example scares me some.

But I’m at the end of my rope with the fake GOP v. Dem scam. I’m finished with it.

Does it really matter?

Next stop is total withdrawal from politics and voting.

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That’s pretty much where I’m at now but it’s not by choice. I’m rethinking the benefits of monarchy. LOL

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If Trump selected Vivek as the VP candidate (i.e., or anybody else ... anybody not Pence-like undercover Quisling establishment Woke-Lite), could you be persuaded to vote Trump?

Anybody who ends of running is going to be either flawed or flawed in the extreme. This is the key dilemma.

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The problem with Vivek is that he never mentions the mass death caused by the toxxine.

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Vote for the father of Operation Warp Speed? Hell to the no.

He deserves to swing from the gallows for the millions of ppl he helped the Deep State to murder and injure.

No forgiveness. In a just world, he'd be on trial.

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Okay, here’s the deal. At the very beginning, from a medical perspective, Warp Speed was the right approach. Many of us, including DJT, didn’t fully understand the depth of the depravation behind it all. Now, given his narcissism, it’s hard for him to acknowledge that it was a colossal failure, and extremely hard, given that so many fell for the jabs, to outwardly attribute it to the depopulation agenda. Much like those of us who, out of love, tread softly when speaking to our jabbed and VI’d F&F. I hope he will speak out against the jabs when the receptivity climate is a bit better. Agree 💯 with your fury about it all, but I think he was an unwilling participant. We all have areas of expertise, and medicine is clearly not his. I couldn’t begin to run a country.

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Warp Speed drug/pharmaceutical development is a disaster from the word go. People don't understand that. There is no time - long term study, 6-10 years - to test and evaluate for "safe and effective" in the exceptional case that there is such a thing. There are usually unintended effects from a pharmaceutical intentionally called "side" effects. Ever had a bit of trouble keeping up with the 100mph verbal disclaimer at the end of drug advertisements? Direct, dangerous effects. 6-10 years is the standard for a reason, even though dangerous products (with 100mph disclaimers) still get approved. --

To add to that sham-made-to-appear-a-disaster disaster, I agree with @Fred Bennett, now that we know for sure, a product was made and patented in maybe 2003? I forget the date. Dr. David Martin has presented that reveal. --

From personal experience (not public politics) narcissists never change their stripes. They are always right. Even when their success has everything to do with being involved with organized crime. Donald Trump was a real estate developer in New York City. Do you really think he accomplished anything skirting the mafia? He knows how things work, and so he worked them. He's no better than the criminals. He's the same. And no, I don't support the blue team. I don't even support the red team. We've had a uniparty for at least 4 generations. The directors running the show are not on stage. I'll go now.

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The best thing about C&C is the honest and sane communication. Agree with your first 2 thoughts; will consider the 3rd. Thank you!

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I just tonight heard a public clip from Donald Trump dating back to 2008 in which he says "Hillary would make a good president or vice-president."

Make of that fact what you will.

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Operation Warp Speed was a total scam too.

Our Intel ppl made the so-called “vaccine” before they used gain of function engineering to make the virus.

Now I’ll grant that Trump might not have known this - but either he was too stupid to protect us, or he knew and went along because he sensed an issue he could ride to victory as our great savior from COVID.

His hardened support in the face of massive evidence against OWS suggests the latter option, evil malevolence.

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Absolutely true, but only a relative few were in on it (I know I wasn’t! 😆) and I think Trump was duped. Neither party likes him, and am not defending him, but they certainly wouldn’t throw him any bones. Can’t stand watching the news, any side, so haven’t listened to DJT one single time, on any platform, since he left office. Didn’t know he hadn’t spoken out… Thank you Fred! Signed, not a Fred. 😉

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💯👍👍👍

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Fred what about RFK Jr pro choice position?

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My reply seems to have disappeared.

But what I said was essentially, “it bothers me deeply, and absent the end of Roe making it mostly a moot point at the federal level, I could not have supported RFK and his alleged pro-choice (pro- abort) position.”

Some months ago he actually said he was against abortion after viability. But the demonic screeches from his then party made him quickly walk that back.

(Which is also deeply troubling in and of itself.)

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I fully agree with you. He would pull from both. I truly wonder if he would consider running with Trump.

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I doubt that but these ARE strange days. I'm betting at least a third of Democratic voters will vote for him without hesitation. The traditional Democrat, who is conservative by woke standards, will run from the woke candidate given the chance. That would mess with the Demorats cheat plan badly! Between that and the huge popularity Trump has makes me cautiously optimistic. But God knows what is going to happen between now and Nov 24.

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On off days, I think Bidden was put in purposely to be a disrupter, a disrupter of the Donkey Party rank and file, specifically to fracture and/or wake up Woke ... enough as to enable a shift of things across the board. Enough also to disrupt the election cheating by slimming down the numbers available to base cheating upon.

If Arnold was the Terminator, then Pedo Pete is the Alienator.

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Politico Phil, excellent name for your astute commentary.

Thank you!

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And beyond !!

Amen and amen

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He may not run with Trump. He still holds many liberal positions. I’m not even sure RFK Jr really wants it. I would like to see Trump promise him a cabinet position. He would be extremely effective there.

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🎯🎯🎯 Even more effective if promoted widely in advance of the election (can anyone do that???).

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My husband has always been a fan of the 'shadow cabinet' system in Britain - the people who would hold that position if their party were in power keep up with everything and are ready to step in if there's a snap election called or if the ruling party changes for any other reason. Trump did put out that list of Supreme Court nominees, and Bannon and possibly others have been working on vetting lists of candidates for various positions in case a Republican wins in 2024. Putting out the list or even a short list or a single name, seems possible.

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He already said he wouldn’t.

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But he also said before that he wouldn't run as anything but a Democrat. We live in interesting times.

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Things can change and Trump

is master negotiator.

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Trump met with Kennedy in 2017, but failed to use Kennedy’s expertise. Kennedy is too smart to fall for it, again.

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I debated this. And I was a little shaky on this, but I saw a Trump clip yesterday and noticed Trump was hitting the strokes harder, saying the things we all want to hear. Enough so that I believe that DJT can count on keeping the marginal MAGA voter segment in his corner. This along with harder core MAGA is probably enough to give DJT. I think this is what the Apex Elite now want. Just a guess, maybe a good one.

The RFK run may well be a very clever way to split the vote and to Trump's advantage. The idea is to marginalize Donkey Woke in the Dem enough so that not even the dumb bunnies will believe another Dem Steal.

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Agree (with 🙏🏻). Hope he does it. He will have to get eye and ear time also.

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I agree on all counts. My question is why did RFK Jr. go all in on advertising in South Carolina just now with 2o billboards and full page ads in every major paper if he is dropping out of the primary?

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And uniformed guess, the race (I hate that word) is very fluid on all accounts. RFK. Jr. still needs to get his name out to the public given the effort the media makes to destroy his character and principles.

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I’m wondering how much support RFK jr has among black and Latino voters. Trump seems to have smashed through some of those barriers but I can’t think that too many other demographic groups have had much exposure to RFKjr

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The great majority of Republicans love Trump, and Trump's gonna win.

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My fear is that it will be a repeat of the last stolen election. He may win, but have it stolen again.

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"The Greatest Show on Earth"

https://rumble.com/v3gx680-the-greatest-show-on-earth-2023.html

White-hats are in control.

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Gonna watch it again. I saw a blip a while back about Saudi Arabia and Oct 1 shooting in Vegas but haven't looked into further and surprised to see it discussed briefly in this documentary. I obviously don't fully understand what happened but several months ago the LV Review Journal ran a story saying the shooter was upset with the casino and why he went on his rampage... which is a bunch of BS. And another reason for the politicians to call for gun control.

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Have watched it twice. 🙏🙏🙏

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My God. If he wins absolutely nothing will get done. Don’t people see that? Democrats will be pushing old ladies out of the voting lines and copying ballots on steroids if he gets the nomination. I know democrats. I was one until 2021. The amount of derangement is civil war quality. If you are GOP You.Have.No.Idea.

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3 years ago , you were right. But after the 2020 selection, the mask holes, the test a holics, the jab happy covidiots, the Karen and Kens, 1619 CRT, transgender surgery for kids, Supreme Court nominee cannot define a woman, Ukraine funding uber alas, and the incurable TDS, I think we get it. Anyone who still supports the Bolshevik party is certifiably insane, with not even a toe in reality .

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I stand on my view. I was a Democrat. A trump hating Democrat. A wash all red states with a big brush of all evil. A sneering wishing death on gop others Dem. .the whole ball of wax. I am no longer that person. But I hear this everyday from Dems. It is a form of insanity and thank God I finally “got” it. If they are all now close to Hell, then this will spew forth along with the rest of this evil they are fomenting if trump is chosen again. But maybe that has to happen. What do I know anyway. 🫣 Dems will not go quietly and you see what they are capable of now. I’ll support RFJjr. But no one else.

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Well done on allowing yourself to be open-minded enough to see. I have a FB friend who is probably in his 70s, a retired historian who still does hobby-level writing and lecturing, an intellligent man, and what we used to call well-educated, but his political posts are nothing more than name-calling Trump (with a side 'business' of criticizing parents rights and Florida). He brings no facts and no logic; it's all emotional, like a toddler calling someone poopy-head. It mystifies me.

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Sadly, still too many without that toe in reality, and Janet’s point about civil war quality may be accurate. God help us all!

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True that! I’m probably being unrealistic, but look at how much he actually got done with everything being thrown at him. And with no 2nd term looming, he won’t give a rat’s behind about reaching “across the aisle.” The climate is hopefully different now, and it will be a miracle if he survives to the election, but I’d still like to see him run.

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