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Gotta jump in and say that I don’t think RFK Jr’s position was “pro jab.” He promised not to take away vaccines from those who want them, and maintaining credibility is crucial. Given enough time, the “believers” can be given enough information for their minds to evolve, but a nuanced approach (revealing that the vaccinated get infected, and that alternative treatments work) seems the best way to pry open some minds. Trump can be our wrecking ball. Convincing the masses will take a lighter touch.
I agree. It’s going to take some time to clean up and shift public opinion - I believe RFK will get us there but it’s going to be a lot harder if his own supporters keep freaking out every time he needs to make a strategic side step for two seconds.
RFK Jr will not get out in front of Trump on vaccines. Despite our hopes he'd be different and independent, RFK Jr won't step into the battle over 'vaccines' unless and until his boss, Pres. Trump is ready for it.
In Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo has his own thoughts and ideas about 'infectious' disease. He opposes masks, too. Shortly after he took the job in August, 2021 he went to visit legislators in the state capitol. Many were still wearing masks, especially D's. They had individual office policies requiring masks to enter. He knew they were BS, didn't want to wear them, tried to explain the science and the D legislators were angered, ruckus ensued, security got involved, ugly scene. It was widely reported. D's cried he was harming them without a mask, the media took their side - over the top medical doctor in the state. And Gov. DeSantis got involved, told Ladapo to back down and respect the individual legislator's rules.
The lesson Ladapo took from it was not to get out in front of the boss. Despite his expertise and correctness, it was a political firestorm his boss wasn't willing to fight. And that has applied to all health policies he's had since. It gets cleared by the "boss" first if it's remotely controversial.
Same for RFK Jr. This shows us that he will not get ahead of Pres. Trump on health policy. The two days between his first unofficial statement about measles and his official statement he met the political bosses of the administration. Most likely Big Pharma shill Susie Wiles, Trump's Chief of Staff. Who rightly or wrongly calculated that now wasn't the time for the vaccine debate. They are frying other fish they think are bigger and more popular.
The lesson of this story is that Pres. Trump himself isn't anti-vax. He still loves his "miracle OWS vaccine." And his closest advisors do, too. And to the degree that he'll "let Bobby run wild" it will be when/if he's willing to expend political capital to do so.
So the anger and frustration many of us have with the 'betrayal' of RFK Jr should be more appropriately directed at Pres. Trump. RFK Jr, like Joe Ladapo, serves at his boss's pleasure. And won't get out in front of his boss. Meaning any pressure campaign should be directed at Pres. Trump, not RFK Jr.
Unless and until Pres. Trump is ready and willing to take on that fight we will get more mealy-mouthed statements on 'vaccines' from RFK Jr. Who's only recourse is to resign if he disagees strongly enough. Bobby decided now wasn't the time to resign, it wasn't his hill to die on. Like Ladapo has done in Florida, live to fight another day. That's the sad reality of it. And unsurprising with a president who to this day defends OWS. And was re-elected by most on this Stack who feel betrayed by RFK, Jr, despite our opposition to OWS.
That's on us. We negotiated our opposition because the alternative was worse. WE'VE done what RFK Jr just did with respect to 'vaccines.' WE have more work to do to change the political calculus. That's the lesson. Change won't be coming from the top. It will need to come from us. We just have a more sympathetic person in power than we've had before who won't shut us and shout us down. But the real work will remain ours to do.
Okay, so--say that we agree with you on this. (I certainly do) What message should we all be sending to the White House and RFK Jr. over this, and where else would you recommend sharing/posting that message to make sure that it really gets heard and acted on?
Someone needs to spearhead an action plan that we can all get on board with and PUSH.
Getting it heard is what I've tried to share here on a widely read Stack, to a largely supportive, already converted audience. Guerilla marketing inspired. Familiarizing ourselves with that same strategy, guerilla marketing. Many presentations of it available by searching online. Researching that may inspire other outlets to share.
What should the message be? Still working on that. Obviously we all have our own reasons we don't trust "vaccines." Children's Health Defense (RFK Jr's previous undertaking) has a lot of source materials and messaging to help with that. A review of their website for that type of information - they have a tab with resources to contact elected officials on it, suggestions for what to say. Del BigTree's ICAN is also a good resource for message suggestions. I won't try to reinvent a wheel here that already exists.
Centralized action plans that others can get on board with and push are springing up. Probably even through those same two, many more. We communicate our message first. We share them with others we know share our sympathies. We modify our message for those who aren't where we are, but possibly receptive to a more temperate message. But we have to contact the White House with our message, share our thoughts on the social media accounts of public policy makers we know have Pres. Trump's ear. He has a Truth Social account that allows commenting, we could flood it and the pages of his secretaries - RFK Jr just started one on Truth, and other influencers we know he reads by virtue of his "re-truthing." Same on other social media. And encourage others in our sphere of influence to do the same.
There's not a magic bullet. We are fighting against a narrative that, unfortunately, still has many friends, even supporters of Pres. Trump in it's grip. We plant seeds of doubt for those who will reject a direct presentation of our counter-narrative. We have a lot of work to do. Hard work. The price we pay for not paying attention earlier, for trusting authorities over all those years before we realized they were lying to us. We're down big late in the big game. If we want to overcome the deficit we have to Fight! Fight! Fight! to win.
My experience has been--and maybe yours is different--but people find it easier to support a campaign of this kind if they're offered a simple message to share. Something they can cut and paste or repeat on the phone.
They can always change it if they want, but-- what someone needs to say is something like,
Contact President Trump/RFK Jr/whoever and say, "we know that the only wild measles showing up in this country has been brought over the border by illegals. We also know that the vast majority of the measles outbreaks in the U.S. are the mutated version spread by the MMR.
The public needs confirmation that this is (or is not) the mutated measles from the MMR--and if this is an outbreak among illegals, the public also needs to be informed as to the nature and frequency of these outbreaks WHILE ALSO having someone who is honest and credible explain that there have been NO DEATHS from the measles in the U.S. for over 30 years (since before the MMR), but there have been a significant and highly concerning number of deaths FROM THE MMR in that same time span.
Measles is a common childhood illness. It isn't a danger to anyone who doesn't already have other comorbidities and a compromised immune system.
The focus for health professionals should be on protecting and supporting the health of the immuno-compromised while also being honest about what is really going on so the public can respond appropriately."
And links to methods of contact might also be helpful... But someone else is going to have to post them. I've got another matter I have to deal with and my ability to sit in this chair at the moment is rather limited.
I really don’t understand why RFK,Jr.’s only option would be to resign if he didn’t push the very vaccine that he and Trump (based on Bobby’s input) have indicated could play a big, big role in the explosive, utterly unsustainable growth in Autism.
And I think it’s premature to lay this at the feet of President Trump, who for all we know may be as shocked as the rest of us; given what has come out of Saint Bobby’s mouth up to this point.
"You've convinced me. Now go out and make me do it."
- Pres. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Obama leaned into this quote when passing his Obamacare. I opposed him, he planted a lot of ticking time bombs in his administration that have been blowing up our nation ever since. But he got this aspect of governance, leadership right, as did FDR. We have to make our leaders do our will, even those who tell us they agree with us. That's on us.
And if you or anyone else thinks that Trump/RFK Jr will "do the right thing" because they know it's right, without us making them do it then we won't be effective and we will lose every single public policy battle we're right about, they know we're right about, because we didn't put enough public pressure on them to do the right thing.
This is Politics 101. And if any reader thinks we need to just be quiet, let our leaders - who we support - do the right thing when there's better timing then we will lose this precious moment in history we have. Passivity is absolutely wrong. Not wanting to "rock the boat" is wrong. Just because we support them and believe they support us isn't enough. We have to MAKE them do what we think is right. It's on us. We have to engage. Period. It's not unreasonable to voice opposition to a policy of leaders we support. Trump must hear from us, as supporters, that we disagree. Passionately and forthrightly enough to "make him do it."
Kennedy is not “pushing” the vaccine. He said it is available as an option for those that want it. Sometimes anti vaxers, of which I am one, act just as stupid as the vaccine fanatics.
Read the opening of the op-Ed again. Both the words of RFK. Jr. and the words of President Trump were meant to quell panic.
The panic President Trump had to tamp down was a thousand times greater than this measles thing and RFK, Jr. has a far more aware populace with which to deal.
Susie Wiles lobbied for these medical interests that are at odds with Pres. Trump's base. Yes. Trump supporters must be vigilant and weigh in, pressure him to modify his positions on vaccines and other health policies we oppose. If we don't he'll only have the voices of his Chief of Staff and others she picked for the administration in his ears. Our silence is our consent. It starts with Pres. Trump. Not RFK Jr.
Yes, let’s see what he does, but meanwhile, I don’t think we can even imagine the pressure that’s on him and the tactical decisions he has to make on a daily basis. I trust him to do the right thing, but there are some very nasty forces out there. I’m sure every day he is trying to keep his eyes on the prize: can he still do more good in that position than on the outside? Eventually though we may need to start a movement to “let Bobby be Bobby ”.
I think so too, I was actually shocked at the other parts - who woulda thunk that would be in there just a few years ago…it takes time and most people open to it will want this approach. Educating the options.
I’m not a supporter and on behalf of all the autistic kids that I served and their parents (the ones who had expected normal children), I am outraged. Sundance at TCTH has never trusted RFK,jr. For a nanosecond.
If he made such a bargain to get confirmed, who the hell needs him.
Like the’jab’, the public demanded him in the HHS seat and Trump complied, because, yes, there are ‘bigger fish to fry’ and more urgent cooking times.
But Kennedy’s like to be in power and RFK,Jr. may be getting a rush being this near the top. I have to wonder what thoughts he has for the future.
RFK Jr knows vaccines are bad news. Just give him time to work through all of this. He (like us) is fighting a vaccine cult that has been carefully groomed into belief over the last 100 years, it will not be undone in a few days. It is absolutely a cult because it requires belief and faith, unfounded in science.
In 2015, when I found myself with extra time on my hands, I took a job as a SPED aid in my fairly large local school district for 3 years. The sheer numbers of severely autistic kids was a real eye opener for me, and is when I first began to think that the "crazy conspiracy theorists" could be right about vaccines.
👆Freedom Fox makes an excellent point. Let's channel our frustration and focus on changing/educating hearts and minds in our local environments and give RFK our support that way. He still needs all the help he can get.
Being a bit older than many on here. I remember well that almost all my peers got mealses, mumps, chicken pox.. and survived (along with incurring lifetime immunity). When the shots came out, we did not need them so did not get them. We don't have all the "adjuvants"filling up those syringes in our bodies. The inclusion of those "adjuvants" (alumimium and/or mercury) in so many shots (what, I think ?day's kids are supposed to get some 70-plus vaccines before they escape high school// madness, indeed!!).
My bet is that Kennedy is wise ad savvy enough to have not elected to die on this present hill. He IS, almost certainly, biding his time to wage the real cintest.. the information battle. Watch: he will begin exposing the rotten science involving those adjuvants and their known results in permanently and cumulatively harming brain and nerve system tissues, the very ones that lead to and cause the autism, and other related "prion" diseases. Parkinsons, Guillaine-Barr,, Lou Gherig's, and I forget the 4th just now.
Kennedy I believe will persue the information/education route rather than deploy the cudgel method. The damning research IS there, I've seen much of it which is why I will not take any ore vaccines unless critically necessary. I know precisely WHY my father died of Parkinson's.
It’s the hypocrisy of how this is viewed by antivaxxers in contrast to how they responded and still respond to Trump’s actions during the COVID hysteria that has me livid.
No worries. I have a long walk with the dog on a beautiful day coming right up.
Kennedy has never been anti Vax. Only against the ingredients. He recognizes that it is an autism as well as other issues maker. He wants the trials to be redone and not faked. I'm not a bug supporter of his but give him time. He is NOT taking anything away nor forcing anyone to take anything.
"Fool me once... shame on you! Fool me twice... SHAME ON ME!" I've found other contradictions previously, but they were not flat-out contra to his platform. I don't see this as a "side-step."
And if this is not his doing... his responsibility AS THE SECRETARY is to clarify loudly how it came to have his name on it.
Someone once said in a live I was on to "Keep your diseased, unvaccinated child out of our schools and homeschool them!" Somehow these people have been brainwashed to believe that if you don't inject your kid with poisons they therefore are cesspools of germs and diseases. It's unbelievable the level of brainwashed, low IQ individuals we are up against here.
And it makes me think, how exactly people are being educated regarding vaccines and disease in the first place? If they equate being unvaccinated as being a diseased person, something is seriously wrong with our community health system.
The unknown in the room is the effect of the jab induced immunosuppression. We have witnessed the increase in sepsis and in previously rare and polymicrobial infections since the roll out. At this time, no one knows for sure how this will intersect with the measles virus. It could be significant. The reported death does appear to be due to the measles (I was initially skeptical), and the risks of encephalitis and other sequelae are not inconsequential.
A 65 year old friend in good health just had a heart attack in New Orleans on vacation. Required a heart stent. CoVid vaxxed and boostered because her husband has medical issues and she worries about him. I can’t say the vaxx caused her heart attack but it is my suspicion. The alarming rate of Autism in children and Alzheimer’s in seniors ought to concern everyone.
I am going to disagree. A friend had a stent due to a heart attack 16 years ago. A year ago he ended up with two heart attacks and two new stents and blood clots in his carotid artery that required surgery, twice. The heart specialists and neurosurgeons couldn’t quite explain it. The corresponding factor was he had been on the new diabetes/weight loss drug, Majourna. Another revision of Ozempic, and others. All, I am told use mRNA in the formulations. Do I believe the jabs themselves cause heart attacks, I’m not sure, but I believe they weaken our bodies abilities to fight off a variety of illnesses that are leading to all kinds of autoimmune reactions.
I agree. The mRNA jabs cause many problems. Some suspect Spike Protein Endothelial Disease which looks similar to amyloidosis. The proteins build up and cause a host of issues. Walter Chestnut has a substack that explores this. Laura Kasner's subsaltack Clotastrophe explores the White clots. And you're right about it hurting our immune system. It really is a disaster.
IMO, it’s the jabs, not the other meds. No one has revealed the exact anatomical changes (if an autopsy was even done) on the grade school aged children who have died of “heart attacks,” as reported with links by Mark Crispin Miller and his team. My theory is that the known endothelial disruptions from the spike protein and the resistance of the clots to fibrinolysis combine to occlude the arteries. This theory also fits with the too frequent inability to resuscitate a witnessed arrest, despite immediate availability of defibrillators.
I assume you have the exact indications on what is in these prescriptions and you know exactly how they work? Too many people I know have had problems with these new “wonder” drugs.
The story is the child was already sick with a compromised immune system and they still gave him the MMR vaccine. It was too much for his system and he succumbed. Of course they are claiming it was from measles. Unfortunately they put all three vaccines into one jab which is one of the issues. The vaccines were never created to be put together into one jab. I read years ago about an immunologist who wrote about this.
Amen Kathleen. As an aside, I’m reminded how many times, when taking a sick pet to the vet, they always try to push those jabs. I read somewhere there are even warnings on the label not to give to anyone (animals included) who is sick. No more of those for anyone on my watch.
Do you have a link to that? I have looked for further information about her. A six year old girl who was given the MMR when already sick with measles. Some have said she was immunocompromised, but I haven’t seen that.
I’m trying to find the X post from yesterday… which detailed the girl DID NOT DIE OF MEASLES… her parents pleaded with the staff to treat their daughter for respiratory infection and administer O2 on 4 separate occasions… they refused! Why??? Their daughter may have died with measles by not by measles. She unfortunately is a case of the number 3 cause of death in the US… medical errors… do no harm gone wrong and gone rogue….
I hope you can find it as soon as possible many really believed that he/she died because of measles and now are panicking about getting their children vaccinated…
My healthy 72 yr old (at the time) mom got shingles shortly after my sister who lived with her got the Covid vax 😑 she thought she was protecting my parents 🤦♀️
Still, I think because my mom eats well, is not on any meds and barely ever goes to the doctor, she had only a small itchy spot and rested for a few days and was fine. It wasn’t even as bad as the flu. My mother-in-law (totally different part of the country, also not on any meds) had a similar experience with shingles. It doesn’t have to be that bad that you would even seek out a shot to avoid it!)
I got shingles from someone who had just had the shingles jab! It sheds. That's why I couldn't get the shingles shot (many years ago- I know better than to take a jab now) when my granddaughter was under 1 year old. Couldn't go near babies then. Don't know what they say now.
I think the idea is that people are getting shingles a lot because before the vaccine the virus was often around in the air, causing everyone to get chickenpox once and providing natural boosters to everyone who had already had it. No boosters meant that more people are getting shingles. But you have to have had chickenpox to get shingles.
I've kept my dog alive for 9 months now (spleen cancer) using fenbendazole and ivermectin and switching to natural food diet. 13 years old and still wants to go for 4 walks a day. 9 months ago she wouldn't even get up off the floor to eat or go for a walk.
Mine made it an additional year on fenbendazole once diagnosed with splenic mass. Some reports suggest cancer of spleen caused by rabies jabs. Glad your pup is doing well. Cherish every day.
Thank you, @positively, come to think of it, I believe this started shortly after her three year rabies shot, which is the only shots my dogs get and only because it's required by law. I wish there was a way around that 😕
Fred my sources say the child had RSV and pneumonia first and was vaccinated in the hospital for measles while ill, which is a big no no. I wish I could get factual information on this.
Yes, sepsis is on the upswing. If it weren’t for big Pharma, doctors would be using the sepsis protocol of Dr. Paul Marik which includes high doses of intravenous vitamin C and a couple of other nutrients.. It reduces septic deaths by something like 40%.
A non-vaxxed friend who developed severe and long lasting Covid swore that her Vit C and other infusions helped her recover, at home of course. In retrospect, I am forever grateful that she didn’t follow my advice to go to the hospital. O2sat in the 70s. Interesting facts: she was part of a friend group of 4, all exposed and became ill at the same time, presumably from the same source. Two were desperately ill for an extended period of time; two with mild disease, one from each couple.
Do we know whether the child who died in Lubbock received an MMR shot after she was diagnosed with measles? Or whether she had any comorbidities before she caught measles? I have read that she contracted pneumonia while in the hospital, which I understand is not uncommon for someone who is sick enough to be hospitalized with measles.
She came to the hospital with pneumonia and RSV. They gave her the MMR shot which should not have been done because she was already ill and she died. Tested positive for measles because the MMR is a live vaccine so of course she tested positive for measles.
Then no wonder the media wants us to belief she died of measles …as they should had never given her the MMR after being admitted with RSv and pneumonia…. A big mistake on their part….so they blame the measles, which she probably did not have when she was admitted to the hospital, but did get measles in the hospital, because of the vaccine!!! Ugh!!!!
Hospital trying to cover for their incompetence. Patient privacy laws should have prevented release of any info, but to save face, hospital likely shifted blame to measles and then released statement. Evil.
No idea if this is true but heard that mother of child who died posted on FB that child was taken to hospital w RSV and flu and was given an MMR shot in hospital. Prior to the past 5 years I would have dismissed such a possibility but today I find that plausible.
Several unknowns…who is really unvaccinated in reports??? If you are asked when your last MMR was if you cannot give a date, and many of us cannot, then you, even though you are vaccinated, are lumped into the unvaccinated. Also, the MMR vaccine is a live virus vaccine, which means some outbreaks and cases are directly related to vaccine recipients spreading the diseases for which they were vaccinated! Is that the case here? Also, there are wild virus variants of measles, which ARE NOT COVERED by the current vaccine, which may mean that even if you are vaccinated, you are not protected against those wild viruses…maybe you are if the wild virus is similar enough, but maybe you are not, do we know that??? We also don’t know if any of those patients currently ill with measles have any other immune compromising illnesses or issues. Heck, I’d want to know if those ill with the measles were covid jabbed and possibly suffering from Covid jab induced VAIDS! There are so many variables we do not know!
Question that measles is a virus. Still no confirmed sighting of an isolated readily identifiable, repeatable finding of any such creature. Not saying whatever measles is might harm you, but a vaccine is not whats needed. Its truly knowing what is the cause of the symptoms that is important.
Yes, she died of pneumonia caused by the measles, the most common cause of death when it occurs. She would not have gotten pneumonia if she had not had measles. But I agree that it was her being given the MMR when already symptomatic for measles that weakened her immune system just when it was most needed. I put up a link here to an article which mentioned this MMR. All vaccines weaken the immune system for about a month: it’s why they used to suspend DPT vaccination during polio outbreaks.
Agree. I saw some whining on social media the other day about the flu vaccine being halted. Too many vax idiots who don’t realize that not only is it ineffective…it’s harmful. But they’re brainwashed and they’re a large cohort.
Ugh the flu shot has long been my nemesis! Subjective data at best. When taught how to call a doctor and give data it was give the objective data. He does not care about subjective data. So do not say vitals stable. Give the vital signs. When people say oh I had the flu and it would have been way worse… ummm how do you know that? My first year in nursing school I thought I had to get the flu shot. I had never had the flu shot. I got it and that winter after working 2 days in Peds or petrie dish whichever you prefer; I was the sickest I had ever been and it was with the flu. I hallucinated. My temp was 104 for days. After that I was NO SHOT for me. My family never just ran to the doctors because we couldn’t afford it. Thank god! I think not having access easily we relied on preventative and to allow certain things to run its coarse. Critically think. I know my mom would have liked the back up the insurance provides but she did great with what she had. All of her kids are healthy
Same here! One flu shot in 1998 and a couple months later the worst flu (until I got Covid). Never had a flu shot again. Got flu one more time with the 2009 swine flu bioweapon leak, and never again (knock wood) So one flu in 25 years with no jab tells me it’s all bull💩
Same here. The one and only time I had a flu shot was during nursing school. I got it at a pharmacy and fainted in the waiting room where they have you sit for 15 minutes. None of the staff knew what to do so they awkwardly told me to sit with my head between my legs for a little while. Never again!
I always say you can’t prove a “would have.” No one can truly know what would have happened. You might make an educated guess but you might still be wrong.
Exactly! I remember trying the whole ‘vitals stable’ to a surgeon! Good lord he behaved like I took his lollipop away. I did it ONE TIME. After that objective data only! When hospitals all over the country implemented the RRAT call - rapid response assessment team for nurses that could not get a read on a patient one of the reasons to call was gut feeling. Nope not using that one I will have the data to back my gut feeling.
I agree. When I got red pill on the vaccine issue, in 2020, I predicted that it would take a full decade to make significant progress. This is the decade of demythologizing the vax.
Remember, it took 30 to 40 years to take down the tobacco industry, which still thrives today, but with far less support and add revenue.
Yes, and it’s possible to say the same about vaccines. Much of what is wrong and damaging in the vaccines are in the preservatives and the adjuvants. And of course, as we learned from Bobby and others, we have never done any placebo controlled trials. The trials always included the adjuvants and the preservatives (including mercury, aluminum, PEG, etc.).
Not saying the “active ingredients” are not bad for you, just that we have never done trials that only look at those.
KBB—I agree. Jenna did a good job of talking us back from the ledge. RFKJr offered alternative treatments to boost the immune system when fighting measels: VitA, among others.
I found this to be helpful. But I’m still struck by the hypocrisy of giving RFK, jr. all the benefit of the doubt, while still wanting to lynch President Trump for his actions during the COVID hysteria. This didn’t come up in this particular article, but I see it routinely in the anti-vaxxer community.
My young adult son asked me if he had the measles vax. Concerned because he often flies to Texas. I assured that he had because you could not send your child to school without it. I am of the generation prior to the MMR and I ( and all of my friends and cousins) actually experienced all of those infections (don't refer to them as "diseases"). None of were hospitalized or died. Most were not even very sick. And we had lifelong immunity as evidenced by those of us who had to prove we had adequate Rubella titers to continue working with pregnant woman... But we are the last of our kind. Because there is always some failed immunity from vaccines, I believe we will see more frequent outbreaks over time. And of course allowing thousands of unvaccinated children into the country won't help, except in the long run as THEY will have non-vax immunity from acquiring the infection.
This reaction to cases of measles as if they're emergencies is bizarre, since the mortality rate in the U.S. was so low even before the vaccine was fielded. I wish there were more emphasis on dietary pro-vitamin A generally, with even more emphasis in the face of a measles outbreak, along with offering high-dose vitamin A to every child diagnosed with measles, not just those hospitalized.
Staying away from hospitals seems to be a really good idea.
People used to know a lot about caring for themselves and others at home.
My mother (born in 1909) took care of our medical needs with common
products like aspirin, Pepto Bismol, Vick’s vapor rub, Epsom salts; soakings, applications of heat and cold. She nursed two children through pneumonia and two through ground rattler snake bites (using persimmon leaf poultices to draw out the poison).
She also put on the whole armor of God every single day and was full time in the home.
I thought the initial argument for the vaccines was that these childhood illnesses were dangerous for adults to get because it made them much sicker than kids? Certainly, I've read that measles outbreaks among US recruits early in WWI were a huge problem heading into the Spanish flu epidemic because these young men often died of pneumonia (because this was pre-antibiotics).
A child that dies of these illnesses has to be very weak for other reasons. I grew up in the 1950s and 60s with a younger sister who had a severe congenital heart defect that compromised her ability to get enough oxygen. The only time the doctors really worried about her catching anything was when I came down with rubella (we called it German measles) on the day my sister was due to be sent home from hospital after open-heart surgery. My mother was told to disinfect the house and get me out of there (I was sent to stay with my grandmother).
Other than that instance, my sister survived all of the other illnesses without having to be hospitalized: measles, chicken pox, mumps, whooping cough, Scarlet fever. While it may be that she had a robust immune system despite her heart defect, the doctors never seemed to be concerned about her catching them as a general principle and they appeared to have been correct.
Well, there was obviously some truth to it, at least before antibiotics became available, because the army had to deal with the fact that young men (i.e. 18-early 20s) were dying in droves from complications from measles (NOT from measles itself).
There's a lot more to be discovered about the Spanish Flu epidemic... apparently, that was caused by "vaccines" as well... and spread from the US to Europe via our young soldiers....
As Concerned mom says vaccines were given to young soldiers. It was the protocols of the medical profession that harmed them, large doses of aspirin have been mentioned by others for example. It caused the complications just like the COVID 19 scam.
When doctors control what information is released it is unlikely they will blame their own actions.
A girl friend posted that Kennedy was taking away her beloved flu shots. She explained that she has a lung condition and her doctor tells her to get one annually. She was practically spitting out the words ‘I will never listen to RFK (she forgot the jr) for MY medical advice’.
I calmly asked her if she’d like my list of immune boosters, and where to go in Portland to get them! Ha ha! Haven’t heard back and I probably never will. She’s one who had groceries delivered and left them on the porch for a day to de-germ 🤣
I agree. He wants the truth out there about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. The flu vaccine is no more effective than placebo. It may be that the MMR vaccine is effective against measles with minimal risk, but until real non-biased studies are presented to the world at large, people are not going to know the truth.
Yep! Why aren’t people more concerned about their overall resistance ie health and fitness instead of fearing the unseen virus? Such a disconnect typical of people at this time is an attitude of having it all without any accountability. Everything has consequences, especially farming out your responsibility of your own healthcare trusting government.
Melissa Floyd says, "You have to stop expecting expansive radical change in just a few weeks."
Exactly! Look how much it took for people to even begin to question with covid. So that means that the people still worried about measles didn't even catch on with covid. Their trust in vaccines is so deeply entrenched in their minds!
When he joined forces with Trump, I thought to myself that he really must have gotten some iron-clad promises from Trump to agree to do so, after what happened to him last time.
And I have said that no matter what happens policy-wise, his position allows him to get messaging out to a much wider audience that would otherwise not hear it. And that makes our advocacy easier, and opens up doors for discussions with people who previously were not interested.
💯 and Freedom Health Defense (the ones who brought the case that removed masks on airlplanes) mentioned there are some big things happening in the courts in the next few weeks. The Supreme Court 1905 Jacobsen case that people use to mandate vaccines is one piece. And she said it didn't flat out allow mandates, but allowed mandate otherwise pay a fine of $5. Stopping the mandates is probably Step 1 and with a court decision behind him, the attackers will have less to stand on.
If you noticed in RFK’s article, he blatantly told everyone what the best cure for measles is, something you’ll NEVER HEAR from jab-happy doctors or Big Pharma: VITAMIN A. To my mind, that’s what the crux and the goal of the editorial was…
I’m most afraid of how Big Pharma and the globalist corruptocrats they sleep with can easily at any time strategically release into our society a virus or disease just to create a specific narrative they need to bring down RFKJr and block him from what he needs to do. They can even tamper with the care someone is getting in order to steer it. We have already seen they don’t care about gambling with the loss of other people’s lives. Weren’t they also just recently planning on testing a new COVID vaccine on 10,000 children before he pulled it?
I think we need to buckle in and anticipate them to play really dirty with our nation’s health and cause outbreaks to “prove” that anti-vaxxers are dangerous, especially the one sitting in the HHS chair. He’s not even an anti-vaxxer, but he’s certainly not pro-vax either! And THAT is too much of a threat for these monsters.
Frankly by giving the MMR vaccine to this child who was already sick they caused the death and knew the diagnosis would be positive for measles because it was a live vaccine so they could say the death was from measles.
The word from the father and a doctor treating other family members was that she was NOT given any vaccines. However, they also did not give her “breathing treatments” as he requested. Probably wasn’t wheezing, so they didn’t consider the anti inflammatory benefits of Budesonide. :(
I know the 1950's were a long time ago but WE ALL GOT MEASLES. NOT VACCINES. Nobody died. It was part of being a kid in America. Lasted about a week and was quickly forgotten. Have the rest of you completely lost your minds?
I’m as anti-vax as you are, but there were, and still are deaths from measles encephalitis, primarily in other countries. Lost two healthy classmates back in the day after their intentional exposure. It happens, and for us to deny it is just as wrong IMHO as the denials from the other side.
One theory I have read on the measles vaccine is that many of the older people who had measles as youngsters are now dying i& our true herd immunity is vanishing. So we have to depend on the younger people with their vaccines which are known not to be lifelong immunity Years ago People used to give their kids cod, liver oil so that when they got the measles, they weren’t very sick.
Therefore, God also highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
This is all I need. Thank you. It is all we need to know, that there is only a small bit of His creation resisting and only for as long as He allows for the purpose of demonstrating to all that He IS who He says He IS.
Regarding Kennedy’s seeming flip flop, Jenna M. Offers her take, which I like and agree with. We all know that when it comes to Trump and his administration, all is revealed as senisical over TIME. let’s take a deep inhale and watch how this plays out.
Thanks for linking everyone to Jenna’s piece. I agree with her. As Jeff always used to say about Trump to those who expected instant miracles: “Let the man do his work.” Kennedy didn’t spend his life as an extremely successful litigator in order to blow it all up in his first 19 days as HHS Secretary.
I read her post and she made some good points. But I think that the sheer size and power of the Medical Industrial Complex makes any profound change unlikely in my lifetime . Think of how many Americans still cling to their various injections and love their doctors, trusting them implicitly. I only know of a handful who have broken free. Incremental changes are good though. And freedom to choose is a significant victory. But MAHA requires going up against the Food Industry, veterinary “science” and Big Ag. It’s going to require a massive shift in public knowledge about real health. I don’t think I’ll be around to see it.
Have you seen the old flccc’s (new name ima?) story about over-the-counter ivermectin trying to get the votes in 10 states! We may see change if it comes every 5 years🤞🏼🍀🌻
I saw that list of states and was so excited to learn that I live in one of them that is considering letting Ivermectin be available over the counter, that I wrote my state assemblyman and senator to urge them to support the bill.
I believe it was Dr. Mary Talley Bowden that said it's good the states are doing it, but you still need to get it from a pharmacists. Only if the federal government makes it OTC can it be on shelves.
I don't trust pharmacists any more than I do physicians. They are all keeping lists of the meds you take, the ailments you are treated for, the doctors you see, etc. I've been on ivermectin weekly as a broad spectrum anti-viral/preventative since January 2021, no illness of any kind during that time. I get it by mail from India - thus no entry in my "ObamaCare Permanent Record." The FLCCC website (or whatever the new name is) has a list of sources and many do not require a prescription. The website also has the preventive protocol with dosages, recommended supplements, etc.
Melissa Floyd says, "You have to stop expecting expansive radical change in just a few weeks."
Exactly! Look how much it took for people to even begin to question with covid. So that means that the people still worried about measles didn't even catch on with covid. Their trust in vaccines is so deeply entrenched in their minds!
When he joined forces with Trump, I thought to myself that he really must have gotten some iron-clad promises from Trump to agree to do so, after what happened to him last time.
And I have said that no matter what happens policy-wise, his position allows him to get messaging out to a much wider audience that would otherwise not hear it. And that makes our advocacy easier, and opens up doors for discussions with people who previously were not interested.
Herd immunity is not a verifible fact. It's an unproven theory. aka a fairy tale. Symptoms of measles are also the same symptoms of many other diseases. There is no way to truly diagnose a case of measles. No one has isolated any measles virus and even the supposed creator of the test to determine measles, Enders, showed that the test was a fraud when he created a culture without the alleged measles virus and got the same results. Right there should have been the end of measles and vaccines for measles. I agree that those who wish to poison themselves with vaccines should have that right. Perhaps that will eventually eliminate the stupid part of the gene pool.
https://viroliegy.com/2021/09/27/enders-measles-paper-1954/ Enders method of finding viruses through the cytopathic effects on cell cultures is what they still use to prove the existence of any viruses. This is in no way isolating anything. There is a summary of the lengthy article at the bottom. Note they state that the culture method doesn't prove the existence of a specific virus or even the existence of viruses at all. And this is what they are using to tell you there is bird flu, monkey pox and every number of viruses.
Same, Annie! The entire culture was so different - hands off parenting (for the most part) & the fostering of self-reliance, critical thinking & independence have been replaced by helicopter parenting (& worse, including pro-jab & pro-tranny parenting), reliance on GOVERNMENT as “daddy” & “safety” @ all costs.
When I was a teenager, we would ride our bikes around the neighborhood after dinner, in the dark. No helmet of course. This was the 70’s, when kids could be kids.
Yep. Climbed trees (no helmet), no seatbelts, virtually no vaccines other than polio for some (I never got one), walking or biking to school several miles away, could literally be out playing on the desert all day on weekends & my mom wasn’t worried. Just had to come home for dinner when she rang the cowbell that could be heard all over the neighborhood 😊
I agree, Kathy. And there is still a massive attempt to cover up immune system compromise from the jabs. Going forward for various diseases, viruses, cancers, they can blame “measles” (or whatever the disease du jour will be) for deaths instead of deaths being from immune system compromise that are making people now more susceptible to damage & death. It’s infuriating
AND magazine had a substack recently talking about the outbreak of tuberculous from "migrants". Tuberculosis is no joke - especially the antibiotic resistant strains.
As a child in the early 60’s, I got two kinds of measles, “3 day” and “hard measles”. 3 day was a breeze. I was sicker and it lasted longer with hard but I got through it, just as I got through mumps and chicken pox. We didn’t die from any of these. We survived and built better immune systems, now pretty much destroyed for many of us as seniors, and years of flu, pneumonia, shingles, and covid shots.
Yep... I believe the "hard" measles were the "german" measles. Had that, mumps, and chicken pox... we all survived and have remained healthy throughout our lifetime!
Ok…I just saw a reel on Instagram. The child had pneumonia and RSV and they vaccinated them with MMR upon hospital admission. You’re not supposed to vaccinate sick children.
There was a well publicized outbreak in Disney World, a couple years ago, and 70% of the adults and children who ended up with measles had been vaccinated. It is also easy to test and find out that the outbreak is often caused by the vaccine strain, as opposed to the wild virus. Vaccinated, people shed, and many viruses are always found in the human gut and waste water. There are measles outbreaks every year. Of course this was seized upon by everyone who wants to smear Kennedy or Trump. There is no way RFK changed his mind about this. He was threatened with something. It was reported by a whistleblower on X that the six-year-old child who died had pneumonia. Not something that the measles causes. I’m just hoping that they allow him to conduct some kind of safety trials, or post vaccine follow up studies, which have never been done. He always said that his aim is transparency and informed consent. If we were allowed to study it, we could determine which children might be vulnerable to particular vaccines .We don’t have this now. Every single vaccine causes harm in some people. That is why the company have 100% liability.
It’s in the insert, measles is one of the side effects, file:///private/var/mobile/Containers/Data/Application/1B64E349-7302-49D6-BE4E-D1FF81D8FA48/tmp/TempDocs/Package-Insert-Measles-Mumps-and-Rubella-Virus-Vaccine-Live_2.pdf
sigh. if here the vaccine must have mania is so strong - meaning covid didn't barely scratch the surface of propaganda compliance - just imagine what its like in the rest of the country.
Apparently it started - or at least spread - in the Mennonite community in West Texas. I would like to know if being officially labeled “vaccinated” for measles has the same 2-week waiting period as being “vaccinated” for C19. (Remember that anyone who caught Covid sooner than two weeks after their second jab was officially considered an unvaxxed case.)
That doesn’t mean it was “from” them. The child was from their community. They didn’t even have the measles before entering the hospital and they contracted it after receiving care, so it’s false to make the assumption their “unvaccinated community” contracted it in the wild because they weren’t vaccinated. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that is what is going on here. But it sure is enough of a crumb to spread misinformation.
Interesting article. Very pro-vaccine. You would think the that we were not lied to about COVID and The Jab. Doctors that pushed the jab have no credibility to me… they were not honest about about the jab and they cared more about the $$$ whether it was keeping their job or they we just greedy. Either way, they went against the Oath they took to do no harm.
Why do you Ass U Me that I believe everything I read? You know me not. I ask for a link to an article and you think that gives you the right to chastise/bully me and judge my critical thinking ability? Nonsense.
You have admitted that you read; therefore, shouldn’t I judge you as you have judged me? How idiotic.
BTW: I did not get jabbed or wear a mask (except once for about a minute or less) during the entire pandemic. Can you say the same?
If so, that fact should be highly publicized to allow the public to understand the situation, the potential for harm(minimal if you're not a Mennonite!), etc.
thats complete nonsense. In the 50's all of us good white middle class kids were unvaccinated. we all got measles. we all lived through it. with nothing more than a week out of school. and a lifelong immunity to shingles.
Actually it is probably a combination of unvaccinated illegal kids and Menonite children. Also any home schooled kids that don’t get vaccinated before pre K.
Do you even read what you’re writing? All children should be free of being poisoned from vaccines. Vaccines spread/shed what they are supposed to be “protecting “ you from, and destroy your immune system
I was just thinking about that. I had read a breakdown on Bill Rice substack recently where if remembered correctly, Jeff had 160k subscribers [not paid necessarily] and he was one of the top ones. Where did you get that number?
RFK Jr.'s concession to measles vaccination was almost certainly, as Childers suggests, a tactical retreat. He's giving up ground now so he can strengthen his forces in what will surely be an even more intense attack later. The media has whipped up so much fear in the public that taking a "scientific" view of the MMR vaccine was inevitably going to be mistimed. When the truth comes out, as it surely will, that the girl died "with " measles and not necessarily "from" measles, the HHS team will be prepared to drop some science truth bombs on the public that will change the narrative. RFK Jr. has certainly not changed his opinion about the vaccine. The science remains the same, and it supports his overall position favoring informed consent.
This is definitely a battlefield that requires intense strategizing on every front and I still think there is no one better than RFK to handle that strategizing. I’m not worried by this op-ed. He didn’t change in a few weeks the values he built over decades under intense pressure.
Pray to God Almighty regarding all of this. The forces of evil and darkness will continue to attempt to divide, confuse and lie to us. Pray to Him for discernment, protection and the correct path to walk. This is a spiritual battle that is being waged against all of us by lunatics, fools, idiots and haters of Mankind. May God intervene to stop it all permanently which He promises to do. Amen.
Media tried everything it could think of to explain how Newsom’s order was not copying President Trump. “Unlike President Donald Trump,” the Sacramento Bee patiently explained, “Gov. Gavin Newsom's orders for state workers to return to their offices four days a week is not punitive.”
Orange man bad and punitive.
Model man good and common-sensical.
Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. But WE KNOW. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY’RE DOING. And the media unwittingly exposes its bias again. Will they never learn??
I laughed at that ridiculous statement. Surely everyone knows that the requirement to work in the office five days is “punitive,” but 4 days is the definition of leniency. 🙄😜
The Canadian tariffs just hit me and my tiny rose farm very hard. My rose order bill for Canadian roses which was $9,000 just increased by 25%. I was so close after months of backbreaking work (no employees) to making that bill. Now, I will have to beg for more time. Why Canadian roses do you ask? Because they are grafted on a different and much better rootstock than those in the U.S.
It is a one time expense to get my stock established. Most of these varieties are unpatented, which means I can take cuttings and graft new stock for next year’s sales.
I am already so far into business debt that another loan is definitely not something I want to do. I am working a farmers market 70 miles away year around just to get myself and my business debt free. I am a one woman show and this farm will be my retirement as a rose nursery and public rose garden.
Does your business ship? Forgive my ignorance, what is your business name/website? Maybe C&C can help support your sales with a BUYcott. If you only sell locally, maybe there’s some people here near your area. I can only speak for myself, but I bet if your products are good quality, people would be willing to pay more.
Do you make the lip/blush? I just planted a David Austin climbing rose- Claire Austin variety to hopefully [never grown roses] train up a pergola. I love the shrub roses.
Wow what a lovely website. I bookmarked it. We are on a limited income and I can’t enjoy luxury purchases (yeah, pretty flowers are a luxury for me) but if ever I can splurge it will definitely be with you.
I hope C&C can help you through this period. I know the folks here surely will try. I hope anyone who owns a business and is affected by the tariffs reaches out to let the C&C Community know how we can help. We will stick together.
And maybe you can start an American alternative that rivals the Canadian offerings? I don’t mean to hurt their economy either, but our nation has suffered so long to allow other nations benefits we don’t have ourselves. It’s time to bring our businesses home.
I always used to buy my roses from a Canadian grower, Pickering Nursery. But I can no longer find them. Have they gone out of business? My hypothesis was that roses grown in a northern climate would be hardier than roses from, say, South Carolina. (I live in Pennsylvania.)
Pickering had such a wonderful variety of roses, too. I have 40 some in my garden.
I suspect the tariffs will be relatively short lived. Hang in there.
Yes, I am sorry. Pickering closed in 2016. We just lost Palatine up there too…that was the best place for us US growers to find rare, hard to find varieties.
Yes. I specialize in old fashioned style, hard to find fragrant French, German, English, and Canadian varieties. I have 180 varieties or more now. www.sweethilltopfarm.com
Agree! I was just checking out the website too. And sharing among my flower friends. We can all place some nice orders to help support a C&C family member. :D
They warned everyone ahead of time that it was likely the tariffs would go through, and when they do expect a 25% increase in the final bill. They also haven’t added on the shipping yet. I am concerned about that too.
The measles story is a clear example of a double standard. "Patient privacy" is asserted on a measles death if you question the health of the patient. And yes, I am rightly accused of lacking any sort of empathy because "this is the death of a child." Yes, it is the death of a child that you, the media, are irresponsibly using to push a certain agenda. So...completely okay to exploit the death of a child to push an intervention, but it's not okay to scrutinize the history of that child to defuse the fear and panic to motivate vaccine uptake?
Yet, if someone dies due to the MMR vaccine, it is said that "they were unhealthy." So then, choose, either you can no longer discuss the death of a child and their patient history, or all pertinent details should be revealed in all cases.
Here is what I do know: the mainstream media has a history of omitting details not pertinent to their narrative.
I've never quite understood why patient privacy is relevant for someone who has passed away. How is a dead person still considered a patient? If the overriding issue is really "public health" (whatever that means) then shouldn't the overall medical condition of the deceased be considered important information for the public? The health version of eminent domain, if you will.
So many hypocritical takes on all this. They can't disclose that medical history on the death of a child with measles because it might undermine their narrative. Meanwhile, we were asked early and often if we got the Covid vaccine.
Interesting that they panicked the American people over Ebola which was on a completely different continent. The headlines were akin to “we’re all gonna die!” I don’t recall the number of deaths from Ebola but it wasn’t as large as they let us think. And now they are trying to panic us over the death of one child!
I wrote on the subject of Measles this week with the title "You're Going To Die If You Don't Read This Post." The hysteria surrounding measles has gone to the absurd. And you can sense they don't want to stop with merely vaccinating, but rather employing again masks, social distancing, and other measures that were ridiculous and restrictive. And behind this is the thought that "if it saves one child..."
Again: The United States Constitution grants no power to the federal government over health issues. The entire department of Health and Human Services is unconstitutional. It needs to be dismantled and its usurped powers returned back to the individual states and the people. The present measles situation demonstrates how inept the feds are in administrating public health policies. The question of vaccine causation of autism remains unanswered due to the feds collusion with big pharma and the resultant malfeasance and suppression of credible evidence.
What would be best is an HHS agency that firmly remains disconnected from ALL conflicts of interest in EVERY industry, and remains true to the science - unmovable on the highest standards required for any public health policy, recommendation, or claims. Sort of how the Supreme Court is supposed to be above the muck that the lower courts swim in, our HHS should be above the muck too and impenetrable to manipulation; the gold standard to follow but not without the ability to engage and openly debate their recommendations. (The problem is they have made everyone believe that they have been the gold standard all along, but they refused to be questioned or challenged, and that’s why it’s so hard to change.)
All states should adhere to proper uncompromised, gold standard scientific testing/analysis methods and reporting of their claims, or face significant fines and consequences for misleading their citizens. That’s what I thought the federal government was for, to protect citizens from harm both foreign and domestic. States are domestic. They should be allowed their sovereignty to handle most things in government according to their citizen’s will, but they should not be allowed to run roughshod over the Constitution or lead their people into clear and significant harm. If they truly believe vaccines protect their citizens from harm then they need to present the uncompromised science that supports that belief, or back off.
Like I would not think a state should ever be allowed to pass mandates to vaccines, or impose consequences to not complying, and some kind of law needs to exist at the federal level to prevent that, without interfering with what the state chooses to make available to its citizens. I would think that’s the purpose of an HHS department. A federal watchdog. Obviously very dangerous when infiltrated by dishonest brokers.
re: “Gov. Newsom orders California state workers to return to office 4 days a week."
In Arizona, I had to get my expiring driver's license renewed. I have one of the type referred to as gold star because I previously had presented all my citizenship documents (travel ready). I called the MVD help line, after waiting 20 mins a courteous female helper came on the line. I asked her if she was in the office where I live. She said No she worked at home as part of a "Call Center". I explained my situation and asked her what additional documents I needed to renew my license. She asked if this was my first renewal of the gold star license. I said yes. She said all the documents I previously submitted would be necessary, including my birth certificate, passport, proof of address, etc. I asked her why, she said she couldn't answer why. I went to the MVD and presented my expiring driver's license and they renewed it without requiring me to provide any additional documents. I did not ask the MVD agent - who was actually working in an office - about it.
How is that being fair, I simply stated the facts, you arrived at your own unsubstantiated conclusion. Do you live in Calif? Oregon? Do you work in office or "work" at home? Are you a gov employee?
Or are you someone simply playing silly games with the childish moniker, afraid you might have to actually go back to work?
Wow - triggered much? Or do you truly think that someone being "in office" means that they are competent? Yeah - we've all had those bad workers with bad answers - both in-person and over the phone. I still stand by my statement that location has little to do with competency.
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about anyone who works outside and office. If that's the case - I doubt there's reason to continue this as it seems like it will devolve into insults.
They can easily check with another worker if remote as well. Communication is rarely an issue these days unless you reach someone in another country where they're just a call center with absolutely no knowledge outside of the scripts/kb they're given.
It depends. You certainly can’t just turn to the person beside you and ask. It is a little more complicated than that. Sure you can call someone or text or whatever but it’s not the same as being in person. Someone could also overhear and correct what the person said which isn’t really going to happen in a remote situation.
For the record, I’m not opposed to remote work, sometimes it can make sense, but it is different than being in person.
"I wouldn’t dare offer any predictions. Everything Trump has done since he took office has defied predictions or even reasonable expectations. "
It would be a hoot if he just started naming every critter on the Epstein list. Then put on some dark glasses, drops the mic, and does his little dance as he walks off the stage.
If the Dems start disrupting with horns whistles and yelling, I hope he points out to the Am people watching that these are CHILDREN. And tells the Dems this is why you lose. They are disgusting
If you can't open the TG link he is on Twitter too. Bottom line in 2024 Russia has 1.5 million, Ukraine 800k, UK 138k, France 204k, Poland 216k, Germany 185K
The question is - are you better off with near-universal MMR vaccination and few cases of measles, or less MMR and more cases? I'd opt for more measles, fewer jabs. It's inevitable that with declining MMR jab uptake, there will be measles outbreaks. Any fool knows that. So, since this admin seems very well-prepared, the opposite of Trump 1.0, I presume they have a strategy to counter the coming attacks when measles cases spike. I sure hope so, anyway. Not an easy task, given that most of the public is still under the spell of the vaccine religion.
Agree. We all had it when I was a kid. Not only do you get lifelong immunity to measles, there is some evidence having had measles affects your immunity in ways that are useful against cancer and other attacks aside from measles. No such benefits from the jab, quite the opposite.
I had it as a child. While working in a hospital, bored occupational health did a blitz and recommended all employees get a blood test to see what your measles titre was. Everyone got vaxxed who had low titres. Before being forced to be vaxxed, I questioned this since having measles as child. They made the excuse, “it wanes”. Four months later I was was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis along with two other employees, (that I knew of, but likely there were more).
Taking this shot each individual(their parents, dammit) must be made aware of the alternative[no jab] and what the adverse affects[initially, and for LIFE] if they take the MMR jab, and how bad the measles might be as to symptoms and potential for death, and how it can be prevented with vitamin therapy.
It is commonly believed that the triple valence jab itself has interactions that cause adverse effects. At the very least breaking out the 3 components is reasonable to prevent the confusion of adverse affects and not knowing which direction to regard them-- M, or M, or R?!
I don’t trust the “trackers”. That’s where the deception lies and is supported. We need to hone in on how to prevent the corruption in “testing”and the tampering with the analysis and results of such testing. If they can’t have that leg to stand on their science falls apart. Just like how they defiled the medical journals to prop up their authority. It all needs to be torn down and let real science stand up.
AND why do boys get the Rubella component? - when I was a lad at school it was just the poor females of the species that had to line up to get the German measles injections 💉 🙄
I see the democrats are promising "defiance" when President Trump addresses Congress tonight.
I half expect them to break out into a Māori haka dance en masse on the floor of the chamber during Trump's address as they continue to beclown themselves.
When they all leave in a tantrum. Fill every empty seat with real Americans, military enlisted people, teens and mothers and fathers, children. Singles, Take the time to comfortably seat them all. After all, it’s OUR congress.
If the republicans were smart they would counter every “guest” the democrats bring (fired federal employees) with equal representation of North Carolina residents, pipeline workers, Covid era job losses, families who lost people to open border crimes, etc etc. If the Dems are going to bring show and tell, then we should too but double the numbers.
Not gonna' lie - I kind of want to see that now. Just picture someone like Schumer doing that dance. We thought the Kente cloth stunt was ridiculous? A protest dance would be gold!
Speaking of dancing, I found it very interesting to see those who received the Epstein files did a little coordinated dance. That doesn’t come off in step organically. Seriously these people practiced a choreographed dance to do at the same time?
Gotta jump in and say that I don’t think RFK Jr’s position was “pro jab.” He promised not to take away vaccines from those who want them, and maintaining credibility is crucial. Given enough time, the “believers” can be given enough information for their minds to evolve, but a nuanced approach (revealing that the vaccinated get infected, and that alternative treatments work) seems the best way to pry open some minds. Trump can be our wrecking ball. Convincing the masses will take a lighter touch.
I agree. It’s going to take some time to clean up and shift public opinion - I believe RFK will get us there but it’s going to be a lot harder if his own supporters keep freaking out every time he needs to make a strategic side step for two seconds.
per Jeff: "we should hold fire and wait to see what the new Secretary does."
RFK Jr will not get out in front of Trump on vaccines. Despite our hopes he'd be different and independent, RFK Jr won't step into the battle over 'vaccines' unless and until his boss, Pres. Trump is ready for it.
In Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo has his own thoughts and ideas about 'infectious' disease. He opposes masks, too. Shortly after he took the job in August, 2021 he went to visit legislators in the state capitol. Many were still wearing masks, especially D's. They had individual office policies requiring masks to enter. He knew they were BS, didn't want to wear them, tried to explain the science and the D legislators were angered, ruckus ensued, security got involved, ugly scene. It was widely reported. D's cried he was harming them without a mask, the media took their side - over the top medical doctor in the state. And Gov. DeSantis got involved, told Ladapo to back down and respect the individual legislator's rules.
The lesson Ladapo took from it was not to get out in front of the boss. Despite his expertise and correctness, it was a political firestorm his boss wasn't willing to fight. And that has applied to all health policies he's had since. It gets cleared by the "boss" first if it's remotely controversial.
Same for RFK Jr. This shows us that he will not get ahead of Pres. Trump on health policy. The two days between his first unofficial statement about measles and his official statement he met the political bosses of the administration. Most likely Big Pharma shill Susie Wiles, Trump's Chief of Staff. Who rightly or wrongly calculated that now wasn't the time for the vaccine debate. They are frying other fish they think are bigger and more popular.
The lesson of this story is that Pres. Trump himself isn't anti-vax. He still loves his "miracle OWS vaccine." And his closest advisors do, too. And to the degree that he'll "let Bobby run wild" it will be when/if he's willing to expend political capital to do so.
So the anger and frustration many of us have with the 'betrayal' of RFK Jr should be more appropriately directed at Pres. Trump. RFK Jr, like Joe Ladapo, serves at his boss's pleasure. And won't get out in front of his boss. Meaning any pressure campaign should be directed at Pres. Trump, not RFK Jr.
Unless and until Pres. Trump is ready and willing to take on that fight we will get more mealy-mouthed statements on 'vaccines' from RFK Jr. Who's only recourse is to resign if he disagees strongly enough. Bobby decided now wasn't the time to resign, it wasn't his hill to die on. Like Ladapo has done in Florida, live to fight another day. That's the sad reality of it. And unsurprising with a president who to this day defends OWS. And was re-elected by most on this Stack who feel betrayed by RFK, Jr, despite our opposition to OWS.
That's on us. We negotiated our opposition because the alternative was worse. WE'VE done what RFK Jr just did with respect to 'vaccines.' WE have more work to do to change the political calculus. That's the lesson. Change won't be coming from the top. It will need to come from us. We just have a more sympathetic person in power than we've had before who won't shut us and shout us down. But the real work will remain ours to do.
Thanks! I had no idea about the brewhaha(?!) in Florida.
Your rationale rings TRUE.
I believe it’s “brouhaha” don’t ask me why 🥲
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/11/01/ahead-of-senate-vote-will-ladapo-mask-confrontation-matter-to-tampa-bay/
Great take. Thank you. I'll be sharing your words with all the incoming 'betrayal' messages we're getting.
And, an even deeper analysis/perspective from a FB user this morning.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15vPqpKdui/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Okay, so--say that we agree with you on this. (I certainly do) What message should we all be sending to the White House and RFK Jr. over this, and where else would you recommend sharing/posting that message to make sure that it really gets heard and acted on?
Someone needs to spearhead an action plan that we can all get on board with and PUSH.
Getting it heard is what I've tried to share here on a widely read Stack, to a largely supportive, already converted audience. Guerilla marketing inspired. Familiarizing ourselves with that same strategy, guerilla marketing. Many presentations of it available by searching online. Researching that may inspire other outlets to share.
What should the message be? Still working on that. Obviously we all have our own reasons we don't trust "vaccines." Children's Health Defense (RFK Jr's previous undertaking) has a lot of source materials and messaging to help with that. A review of their website for that type of information - they have a tab with resources to contact elected officials on it, suggestions for what to say. Del BigTree's ICAN is also a good resource for message suggestions. I won't try to reinvent a wheel here that already exists.
Centralized action plans that others can get on board with and push are springing up. Probably even through those same two, many more. We communicate our message first. We share them with others we know share our sympathies. We modify our message for those who aren't where we are, but possibly receptive to a more temperate message. But we have to contact the White House with our message, share our thoughts on the social media accounts of public policy makers we know have Pres. Trump's ear. He has a Truth Social account that allows commenting, we could flood it and the pages of his secretaries - RFK Jr just started one on Truth, and other influencers we know he reads by virtue of his "re-truthing." Same on other social media. And encourage others in our sphere of influence to do the same.
There's not a magic bullet. We are fighting against a narrative that, unfortunately, still has many friends, even supporters of Pres. Trump in it's grip. We plant seeds of doubt for those who will reject a direct presentation of our counter-narrative. We have a lot of work to do. Hard work. The price we pay for not paying attention earlier, for trusting authorities over all those years before we realized they were lying to us. We're down big late in the big game. If we want to overcome the deficit we have to Fight! Fight! Fight! to win.
My experience has been--and maybe yours is different--but people find it easier to support a campaign of this kind if they're offered a simple message to share. Something they can cut and paste or repeat on the phone.
They can always change it if they want, but-- what someone needs to say is something like,
Contact President Trump/RFK Jr/whoever and say, "we know that the only wild measles showing up in this country has been brought over the border by illegals. We also know that the vast majority of the measles outbreaks in the U.S. are the mutated version spread by the MMR.
The public needs confirmation that this is (or is not) the mutated measles from the MMR--and if this is an outbreak among illegals, the public also needs to be informed as to the nature and frequency of these outbreaks WHILE ALSO having someone who is honest and credible explain that there have been NO DEATHS from the measles in the U.S. for over 30 years (since before the MMR), but there have been a significant and highly concerning number of deaths FROM THE MMR in that same time span.
Measles is a common childhood illness. It isn't a danger to anyone who doesn't already have other comorbidities and a compromised immune system.
The focus for health professionals should be on protecting and supporting the health of the immuno-compromised while also being honest about what is really going on so the public can respond appropriately."
And links to methods of contact might also be helpful... But someone else is going to have to post them. I've got another matter I have to deal with and my ability to sit in this chair at the moment is rather limited.
I really don’t understand why RFK,Jr.’s only option would be to resign if he didn’t push the very vaccine that he and Trump (based on Bobby’s input) have indicated could play a big, big role in the explosive, utterly unsustainable growth in Autism.
And I think it’s premature to lay this at the feet of President Trump, who for all we know may be as shocked as the rest of us; given what has come out of Saint Bobby’s mouth up to this point.
Time will tell.
"You've convinced me. Now go out and make me do it."
- Pres. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Obama leaned into this quote when passing his Obamacare. I opposed him, he planted a lot of ticking time bombs in his administration that have been blowing up our nation ever since. But he got this aspect of governance, leadership right, as did FDR. We have to make our leaders do our will, even those who tell us they agree with us. That's on us.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/09/10/got-out-and-make-me-do-it
And if you or anyone else thinks that Trump/RFK Jr will "do the right thing" because they know it's right, without us making them do it then we won't be effective and we will lose every single public policy battle we're right about, they know we're right about, because we didn't put enough public pressure on them to do the right thing.
This is Politics 101. And if any reader thinks we need to just be quiet, let our leaders - who we support - do the right thing when there's better timing then we will lose this precious moment in history we have. Passivity is absolutely wrong. Not wanting to "rock the boat" is wrong. Just because we support them and believe they support us isn't enough. We have to MAKE them do what we think is right. It's on us. We have to engage. Period. It's not unreasonable to voice opposition to a policy of leaders we support. Trump must hear from us, as supporters, that we disagree. Passionately and forthrightly enough to "make him do it."
And I assume you mean ‘you’ negotiated your opposition to Trump and voted for him because the alternative ‘Kamala’ was worse.
Do I have that right?
Who is this ‘we’ Kemosabe? I wholeheartedly supported and support Trump.
Willing Spirit, I love the word Kemosabe! I first heard it as a pre-schooler watching Roy Rogers and Tanto.
Kennedy is not “pushing” the vaccine. He said it is available as an option for those that want it. Sometimes anti vaxers, of which I am one, act just as stupid as the vaccine fanatics.
Read the opening of the op-Ed again. Both the words of RFK. Jr. and the words of President Trump were meant to quell panic.
The panic President Trump had to tamp down was a thousand times greater than this measles thing and RFK, Jr. has a far more aware populace with which to deal.
Great perspective!!
Interesting, I had not heard that about Suzy Wiles. Source?
https://vermontdailychronicle.com/big-pharma-courting-trump/
https://stateofthenation.info/?p=3348
https://healthimpactnews.com/2024/trump-announces-former-big-pharma-lobbyist-to-run-white-house-staff/
She even lobbied for Children's Hospitals - you know, the ones who chemically and surgically mutilate children with gender dysphoria:
https://www.citizen.org/article/meet-susie-wiles-controversial-corporate-lobbying-clients/
https://www.thecentersquare.com/washington/article_a2ec1a26-8654-11ef-8f0a-7f524b86534a.html
^Not just Children's Hospital in Seattle. All over the nation. Even in Red State Texas:
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/texas-childrens-hospital-still-leaning-into-gender-ideology-even-after-trans-procedure-scandal/
Susie Wiles lobbied for these medical interests that are at odds with Pres. Trump's base. Yes. Trump supporters must be vigilant and weigh in, pressure him to modify his positions on vaccines and other health policies we oppose. If we don't he'll only have the voices of his Chief of Staff and others she picked for the administration in his ears. Our silence is our consent. It starts with Pres. Trump. Not RFK Jr.
There’s also another significant Biden holdover called Dr Edward Parker, whom Jeffrey Tucker (journalist) has been writing about!
Worth checking him out.
Exactly!!! Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words.
I hear they make an mRNA vaccine for that now kim, maybe you should take it.
Yes, let’s see what he does, but meanwhile, I don’t think we can even imagine the pressure that’s on him and the tactical decisions he has to make on a daily basis. I trust him to do the right thing, but there are some very nasty forces out there. I’m sure every day he is trying to keep his eyes on the prize: can he still do more good in that position than on the outside? Eventually though we may need to start a movement to “let Bobby be Bobby ”.
He can handle the pressure.
Poor baby! So much sympathy for what he’s going through. I hope you had the same attitude towards Trump.
I think so too, I was actually shocked at the other parts - who woulda thunk that would be in there just a few years ago…it takes time and most people open to it will want this approach. Educating the options.
I’m not a supporter and on behalf of all the autistic kids that I served and their parents (the ones who had expected normal children), I am outraged. Sundance at TCTH has never trusted RFK,jr. For a nanosecond.
If he made such a bargain to get confirmed, who the hell needs him.
Like the’jab’, the public demanded him in the HHS seat and Trump complied, because, yes, there are ‘bigger fish to fry’ and more urgent cooking times.
But Kennedy’s like to be in power and RFK,Jr. may be getting a rush being this near the top. I have to wonder what thoughts he has for the future.
This sickens me.
RFK Jr knows vaccines are bad news. Just give him time to work through all of this. He (like us) is fighting a vaccine cult that has been carefully groomed into belief over the last 100 years, it will not be undone in a few days. It is absolutely a cult because it requires belief and faith, unfounded in science.
In 2015, when I found myself with extra time on my hands, I took a job as a SPED aid in my fairly large local school district for 3 years. The sheer numbers of severely autistic kids was a real eye opener for me, and is when I first began to think that the "crazy conspiracy theorists" could be right about vaccines.
👆Freedom Fox makes an excellent point. Let's channel our frustration and focus on changing/educating hearts and minds in our local environments and give RFK our support that way. He still needs all the help he can get.
Being a bit older than many on here. I remember well that almost all my peers got mealses, mumps, chicken pox.. and survived (along with incurring lifetime immunity). When the shots came out, we did not need them so did not get them. We don't have all the "adjuvants"filling up those syringes in our bodies. The inclusion of those "adjuvants" (alumimium and/or mercury) in so many shots (what, I think ?day's kids are supposed to get some 70-plus vaccines before they escape high school// madness, indeed!!).
My bet is that Kennedy is wise ad savvy enough to have not elected to die on this present hill. He IS, almost certainly, biding his time to wage the real cintest.. the information battle. Watch: he will begin exposing the rotten science involving those adjuvants and their known results in permanently and cumulatively harming brain and nerve system tissues, the very ones that lead to and cause the autism, and other related "prion" diseases. Parkinsons, Guillaine-Barr,, Lou Gherig's, and I forget the 4th just now.
Kennedy I believe will persue the information/education route rather than deploy the cudgel method. The damning research IS there, I've seen much of it which is why I will not take any ore vaccines unless critically necessary. I know precisely WHY my father died of Parkinson's.
Exactly!👍 Being older/wiser, he's naturally better at picking which hill he's willing to die on. (IMHO)
The 4th I believe is Epstein-Barr
Patience, my friend.
It’s the hypocrisy of how this is viewed by antivaxxers in contrast to how they responded and still respond to Trump’s actions during the COVID hysteria that has me livid.
No worries. I have a long walk with the dog on a beautiful day coming right up.
Kennedy has never been anti Vax. Only against the ingredients. He recognizes that it is an autism as well as other issues maker. He wants the trials to be redone and not faked. I'm not a bug supporter of his but give him time. He is NOT taking anything away nor forcing anyone to take anything.
Immediate gratification is highly over rated. (also imho lol)
You miss my point about hypocrisy entirely, but, okay, whatever.
No, you didn’t get it. Perhaps deliberately. Perhaps you didn’t actually read what I wrote. Forget about it.
"Fool me once... shame on you! Fool me twice... SHAME ON ME!" I've found other contradictions previously, but they were not flat-out contra to his platform. I don't see this as a "side-step."
And if this is not his doing... his responsibility AS THE SECRETARY is to clarify loudly how it came to have his name on it.
Someone once said in a live I was on to "Keep your diseased, unvaccinated child out of our schools and homeschool them!" Somehow these people have been brainwashed to believe that if you don't inject your kid with poisons they therefore are cesspools of germs and diseases. It's unbelievable the level of brainwashed, low IQ individuals we are up against here.
Well if their kids are already vaccinated, shouldn't they be protected from the unvaccinated? Apparently they are not critical thinkers.
And it makes me think, how exactly people are being educated regarding vaccines and disease in the first place? If they equate being unvaccinated as being a diseased person, something is seriously wrong with our community health system.
Yes Karmy,for some reason they just can't figure that part out!😄
So 85% have had MMR shots. They must not believe the shot works.
Most of the school districts in the Texas counties with measles cases reported have MMR vaccination rates above 90%.
MMR coverage rates (in kindergarteners) in school districts in counties with measles cases
Dallam County
• Dalhart Independent School District (97.64%))
• Texline Independent School District (92.86%)
Dawson County
• Dawson Independent School District (85.71%)
• Klondike Independent School District (88.89%)
• Lamesa Independent School District (90.29%)
• Sands Consolidated Independent School District (75.00%)
Ector County
• Ector County Independent School District (91.06%)
Gaines County
• Loop Independent School District (46.15%)
• Seagraves Independent School District (94.29%)
• Seminole Independent School District (82.14%)
Lubbock County
• Frenship Independent School District (95.05%)
• Idalou Independent School District (92.06%)
• Lubbock Independent School District (89.84%)
• Lubbock-Cooper Independent School District (95.69%)
• New Deal Independent School District (96.15%)
• Roosevelt Independent School District (100%)
• Shallowater Independent School District (91.49%)
• Slaton Independent School District (96.63%)
Lynn County
• New Home Independent School District (90.70%)
• O'Donnell Independent School District (95.00%)
• Tahoka Independent School District (91.18%)
• Wilson Independent School District (no data, fewer than 5 students in kindergarten)
Terry County
• Brownfield Independent School District (97.09%)
• Meadow Independent School District (92.86%)
• Wellman-Union Consolidated Independent School District (88.24%)
Yoakum County
• Denver City Independent School District (95.56%)
• Plains Independent School District (83.33%)
Tragic
That’s how cesspools of germs and diseases (humans) managed to survive for the last million years.
Same thing they said about people that didn't want THE vaxx.
The unknown in the room is the effect of the jab induced immunosuppression. We have witnessed the increase in sepsis and in previously rare and polymicrobial infections since the roll out. At this time, no one knows for sure how this will intersect with the measles virus. It could be significant. The reported death does appear to be due to the measles (I was initially skeptical), and the risks of encephalitis and other sequelae are not inconsequential.
A 65 year old friend in good health just had a heart attack in New Orleans on vacation. Required a heart stent. CoVid vaxxed and boostered because her husband has medical issues and she worries about him. I can’t say the vaxx caused her heart attack but it is my suspicion. The alarming rate of Autism in children and Alzheimer’s in seniors ought to concern everyone.
A stent is usually needed to treat coronary artery disease that accumulates over the years ( I had one 20 years ago). Probably not jab related.
I am going to disagree. A friend had a stent due to a heart attack 16 years ago. A year ago he ended up with two heart attacks and two new stents and blood clots in his carotid artery that required surgery, twice. The heart specialists and neurosurgeons couldn’t quite explain it. The corresponding factor was he had been on the new diabetes/weight loss drug, Majourna. Another revision of Ozempic, and others. All, I am told use mRNA in the formulations. Do I believe the jabs themselves cause heart attacks, I’m not sure, but I believe they weaken our bodies abilities to fight off a variety of illnesses that are leading to all kinds of autoimmune reactions.
I agree. The mRNA jabs cause many problems. Some suspect Spike Protein Endothelial Disease which looks similar to amyloidosis. The proteins build up and cause a host of issues. Walter Chestnut has a substack that explores this. Laura Kasner's subsaltack Clotastrophe explores the White clots. And you're right about it hurting our immune system. It really is a disaster.
IMO, it’s the jabs, not the other meds. No one has revealed the exact anatomical changes (if an autopsy was even done) on the grade school aged children who have died of “heart attacks,” as reported with links by Mark Crispin Miller and his team. My theory is that the known endothelial disruptions from the spike protein and the resistance of the clots to fibrinolysis combine to occlude the arteries. This theory also fits with the too frequent inability to resuscitate a witnessed arrest, despite immediate availability of defibrillators.
Mounjaro does not use mRNA in its formulation. Neither does Ozempic. Just FYI
I assume you have the exact indications on what is in these prescriptions and you know exactly how they work? Too many people I know have had problems with these new “wonder” drugs.
The story is the child was already sick with a compromised immune system and they still gave him the MMR vaccine. It was too much for his system and he succumbed. Of course they are claiming it was from measles. Unfortunately they put all three vaccines into one jab which is one of the issues. The vaccines were never created to be put together into one jab. I read years ago about an immunologist who wrote about this.
Vaccines should never be given to someone who is sick.
Amen Kathleen. As an aside, I’m reminded how many times, when taking a sick pet to the vet, they always try to push those jabs. I read somewhere there are even warnings on the label not to give to anyone (animals included) who is sick. No more of those for anyone on my watch.
OR to anyone with HIV...
Now we gotta wonder about VIAIDS. I believe it’s real, although maybe not in exactly the same way as HIV.
vaccines should never be given.
And they are NOT a one size fits all - which is how they are all administered.
Energy Density Frequency Medicine is ALWAYS given to people that are sick and they usually recover in less than an hour...sometimes in 10 minutes.
given that vaccines were invented to kill people, what could be more promising than 3 in 1?
A good vet refuses to immunize a pet if it’s currently ill.
I heard this, too. If true, that’s what Kennedy should be reporting.
Do you have a link to that? I have looked for further information about her. A six year old girl who was given the MMR when already sick with measles. Some have said she was immunocompromised, but I haven’t seen that.
Here is a good article about Wakefield written by Tess Lawie.
Had to use the Yandex search engine to find it.
https://www.ageofautism.com/2023/08/andrew-wakefield-was-the-og-protecting-children-and-he-was-right-all-along.html
I’m trying to find the X post from yesterday… which detailed the girl DID NOT DIE OF MEASLES… her parents pleaded with the staff to treat their daughter for respiratory infection and administer O2 on 4 separate occasions… they refused! Why??? Their daughter may have died with measles by not by measles. She unfortunately is a case of the number 3 cause of death in the US… medical errors… do no harm gone wrong and gone rogue….
Sounds like they used the covid protocol, that's murder!
So horrible. Maybe the girl could have been saved had they focused on her respiratory troubles.
I hope you can find it as soon as possible many really believed that he/she died because of measles and now are panicking about getting their children vaccinated…
Also, many think the shingles outbreaks are from chicken pox vax shedding. 🤷🏻♀️
The covid shots can also trigger shingles.
Just saw Harrison Ford has shingles and immediately thought of vax effects.
The shingles shots can too...
I wonder of they are putting mRNA into those now?
My doctor refuses to recommend Shingles shot or Flu shots.
Just think about that for a while.
Or the Covid jabs?
Sounds like you have a good Doc... very rare...
My healthy 72 yr old (at the time) mom got shingles shortly after my sister who lived with her got the Covid vax 😑 she thought she was protecting my parents 🤦♀️
Still, I think because my mom eats well, is not on any meds and barely ever goes to the doctor, she had only a small itchy spot and rested for a few days and was fine. It wasn’t even as bad as the flu. My mother-in-law (totally different part of the country, also not on any meds) had a similar experience with shingles. It doesn’t have to be that bad that you would even seek out a shot to avoid it!)
I got shingles from someone who had just had the shingles jab! It sheds. That's why I couldn't get the shingles shot (many years ago- I know better than to take a jab now) when my granddaughter was under 1 year old. Couldn't go near babies then. Don't know what they say now.
Chicken pox and shingles are caused by the same virus called varicella-zoster.
I think the idea is that people are getting shingles a lot because before the vaccine the virus was often around in the air, causing everyone to get chickenpox once and providing natural boosters to everyone who had already had it. No boosters meant that more people are getting shingles. But you have to have had chickenpox to get shingles.
I had not heard that but it is logical.
You need a functioning immune system to fight off cancer as well.
And plenty of fenbendazole and ivermectin!
Add Artemisinin for a kicker!
I've kept my dog alive for 9 months now (spleen cancer) using fenbendazole and ivermectin and switching to natural food diet. 13 years old and still wants to go for 4 walks a day. 9 months ago she wouldn't even get up off the floor to eat or go for a walk.
Mine made it an additional year on fenbendazole once diagnosed with splenic mass. Some reports suggest cancer of spleen caused by rabies jabs. Glad your pup is doing well. Cherish every day.
Thank you, @positively, come to think of it, I believe this started shortly after her three year rabies shot, which is the only shots my dogs get and only because it's required by law. I wish there was a way around that 😕
Bravo!
Have a good source of info on Artemisinin? TIA! :)
Sure...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ig4BQwgV60Ow
https://www.bitchute.com/video/67RhlFeS5R4
https://rumble.com/v2jxp70-the-best-natural-pathogen-and-cancer-fighter-true-pathfinder.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Fred my sources say the child had RSV and pneumonia first and was vaccinated in the hospital for measles while ill, which is a big no no. I wish I could get factual information on this.
Thanks! Me too. I’ve heard this from others. If true, words fail me.
This is something that RFK Jr might get away with revealing - IOW, don’t get the vax when you’re sick. Public service announcement!
I hadn’t heard about increase in sepsis. My hubby was in hospital a week last fall with sepsis and pneumonia. Sadly he was vaxed early on…
Yes, sepsis is on the upswing. If it weren’t for big Pharma, doctors would be using the sepsis protocol of Dr. Paul Marik which includes high doses of intravenous vitamin C and a couple of other nutrients.. It reduces septic deaths by something like 40%.
A non-vaxxed friend who developed severe and long lasting Covid swore that her Vit C and other infusions helped her recover, at home of course. In retrospect, I am forever grateful that she didn’t follow my advice to go to the hospital. O2sat in the 70s. Interesting facts: she was part of a friend group of 4, all exposed and became ill at the same time, presumably from the same source. Two were desperately ill for an extended period of time; two with mild disease, one from each couple.
You may have heard about more people having amputations; they’re not all diabetic; many from sepsis.
Do we know whether the child who died in Lubbock received an MMR shot after she was diagnosed with measles? Or whether she had any comorbidities before she caught measles? I have read that she contracted pneumonia while in the hospital, which I understand is not uncommon for someone who is sick enough to be hospitalized with measles.
She came to the hospital with pneumonia and RSV. They gave her the MMR shot which should not have been done because she was already ill and she died. Tested positive for measles because the MMR is a live vaccine so of course she tested positive for measles.
https://x.com/DrSyedHaider/status/1895485077779312811
Then no wonder the media wants us to belief she died of measles …as they should had never given her the MMR after being admitted with RSv and pneumonia…. A big mistake on their part….so they blame the measles, which she probably did not have when she was admitted to the hospital, but did get measles in the hospital, because of the vaccine!!! Ugh!!!!
Hospital trying to cover for their incompetence. Patient privacy laws should have prevented release of any info, but to save face, hospital likely shifted blame to measles and then released statement. Evil.
Ugh 😡
So the problem is being caused by the solution. Poor parents.
Father and doctor treating her siblings said she was not given the MMR vaccine. Sadly, sounds like she could have been saved.
Father and doctor treating her siblings said she was not given the MMR vaccine. Sadly, sounds like she could have been saved.
Scary the increase in the cases of sepsis.
I read somewhere that the kid had pneumonia... a hell of a "comorbidity".
Was the kid also Covid jabbed?
Sadly, I’ll bet that’s not being tracked.
No idea if this is true but heard that mother of child who died posted on FB that child was taken to hospital w RSV and flu and was given an MMR shot in hospital. Prior to the past 5 years I would have dismissed such a possibility but today I find that plausible.
Several unknowns…who is really unvaccinated in reports??? If you are asked when your last MMR was if you cannot give a date, and many of us cannot, then you, even though you are vaccinated, are lumped into the unvaccinated. Also, the MMR vaccine is a live virus vaccine, which means some outbreaks and cases are directly related to vaccine recipients spreading the diseases for which they were vaccinated! Is that the case here? Also, there are wild virus variants of measles, which ARE NOT COVERED by the current vaccine, which may mean that even if you are vaccinated, you are not protected against those wild viruses…maybe you are if the wild virus is similar enough, but maybe you are not, do we know that??? We also don’t know if any of those patients currently ill with measles have any other immune compromising illnesses or issues. Heck, I’d want to know if those ill with the measles were covid jabbed and possibly suffering from Covid jab induced VAIDS! There are so many variables we do not know!
Question that measles is a virus. Still no confirmed sighting of an isolated readily identifiable, repeatable finding of any such creature. Not saying whatever measles is might harm you, but a vaccine is not whats needed. Its truly knowing what is the cause of the symptoms that is important.
Fred, where did you see that about measles causing this death? I've not seen that.
Not certain now (of practically everything! 😁). Sorry!
Yes, she died of pneumonia caused by the measles, the most common cause of death when it occurs. She would not have gotten pneumonia if she had not had measles. But I agree that it was her being given the MMR when already symptomatic for measles that weakened her immune system just when it was most needed. I put up a link here to an article which mentioned this MMR. All vaccines weaken the immune system for about a month: it’s why they used to suspend DPT vaccination during polio outbreaks.
I'm not seeing a link aligned with this post.
Agree. I saw some whining on social media the other day about the flu vaccine being halted. Too many vax idiots who don’t realize that not only is it ineffective…it’s harmful. But they’re brainwashed and they’re a large cohort.
Ugh the flu shot has long been my nemesis! Subjective data at best. When taught how to call a doctor and give data it was give the objective data. He does not care about subjective data. So do not say vitals stable. Give the vital signs. When people say oh I had the flu and it would have been way worse… ummm how do you know that? My first year in nursing school I thought I had to get the flu shot. I had never had the flu shot. I got it and that winter after working 2 days in Peds or petrie dish whichever you prefer; I was the sickest I had ever been and it was with the flu. I hallucinated. My temp was 104 for days. After that I was NO SHOT for me. My family never just ran to the doctors because we couldn’t afford it. Thank god! I think not having access easily we relied on preventative and to allow certain things to run its coarse. Critically think. I know my mom would have liked the back up the insurance provides but she did great with what she had. All of her kids are healthy
Same here! One flu shot in 1998 and a couple months later the worst flu (until I got Covid). Never had a flu shot again. Got flu one more time with the 2009 swine flu bioweapon leak, and never again (knock wood) So one flu in 25 years with no jab tells me it’s all bull💩
Same here. The one and only time I had a flu shot was during nursing school. I got it at a pharmacy and fainted in the waiting room where they have you sit for 15 minutes. None of the staff knew what to do so they awkwardly told me to sit with my head between my legs for a little while. Never again!
I always say you can’t prove a “would have.” No one can truly know what would have happened. You might make an educated guess but you might still be wrong.
Exactly! I remember trying the whole ‘vitals stable’ to a surgeon! Good lord he behaved like I took his lollipop away. I did it ONE TIME. After that objective data only! When hospitals all over the country implemented the RRAT call - rapid response assessment team for nurses that could not get a read on a patient one of the reasons to call was gut feeling. Nope not using that one I will have the data to back my gut feeling.
Am I correct that you can still get the flu shot (if you’re brainwashed enough to want it), but only the promotion campaign was halted? IDK.
According to this story you are correct. What RFK Jr. did was cancel a meeting and the promotion campaign for the flu shot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14421627/rfk-jr-vaccines-informed-consent-delay-cdc-panel.html
And yet so many were and apparently still are wanting to lynch Trump over trying to calm the hysterical masses during Covid.
I agree. When I got red pill on the vaccine issue, in 2020, I predicted that it would take a full decade to make significant progress. This is the decade of demythologizing the vax.
Remember, it took 30 to 40 years to take down the tobacco industry, which still thrives today, but with far less support and add revenue.
Re tobacco its not so much the natural leaf but the chemicals they put on them and plastics in filters etc. Now they have toxic vapes.
AND according to Dr. Bryan Ardis, nicotine is a healing agent for Covid and other ills...
Yes, and it’s possible to say the same about vaccines. Much of what is wrong and damaging in the vaccines are in the preservatives and the adjuvants. And of course, as we learned from Bobby and others, we have never done any placebo controlled trials. The trials always included the adjuvants and the preservatives (including mercury, aluminum, PEG, etc.).
Not saying the “active ingredients” are not bad for you, just that we have never done trials that only look at those.
Quite so. I wonder in reality what the so-called virus in vaccines, live or not, really is. It has to be in some suspension liquid regardless.
As to adjuvants they are just toxic as they have to be to create what they euphemistically call an immune response.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/adjuvants-and-immune-response-what?utm_source=publication-search
The bottom line scam of vaccines is the claim that they 'train' the immune system. This is based on wishful thinking and manipulated statistics.
Jenna McCarthy has a good dissection of the RFK Jr op-ed this morning. He's walking a fine line and walking it well.
https://jennasside.rocks/p/rfk-jr-completely-flip-flops-on-vaccines
KBB—I agree. Jenna did a good job of talking us back from the ledge. RFKJr offered alternative treatments to boost the immune system when fighting measels: VitA, among others.
I found this to be helpful. But I’m still struck by the hypocrisy of giving RFK, jr. all the benefit of the doubt, while still wanting to lynch President Trump for his actions during the COVID hysteria. This didn’t come up in this particular article, but I see it routinely in the anti-vaxxer community.
Thank you kindly! I've written about that as well. ;)
https://jennasside.rocks/p/is-trump-tricking-us-or-trolling
And this seems most unhelpful.
Thanks for sharing, Kitty! :)
Also from your stack:
RFKJr points out
“By 1960—before the vaccine’s introduction—improvements in sanitation and nutrition had eliminated 98% of measles deaths.”
This is a little known fact about that jab.
This was great. Thank you for sharing.
My young adult son asked me if he had the measles vax. Concerned because he often flies to Texas. I assured that he had because you could not send your child to school without it. I am of the generation prior to the MMR and I ( and all of my friends and cousins) actually experienced all of those infections (don't refer to them as "diseases"). None of were hospitalized or died. Most were not even very sick. And we had lifelong immunity as evidenced by those of us who had to prove we had adequate Rubella titers to continue working with pregnant woman... But we are the last of our kind. Because there is always some failed immunity from vaccines, I believe we will see more frequent outbreaks over time. And of course allowing thousands of unvaccinated children into the country won't help, except in the long run as THEY will have non-vax immunity from acquiring the infection.
This reaction to cases of measles as if they're emergencies is bizarre, since the mortality rate in the U.S. was so low even before the vaccine was fielded. I wish there were more emphasis on dietary pro-vitamin A generally, with even more emphasis in the face of a measles outbreak, along with offering high-dose vitamin A to every child diagnosed with measles, not just those hospitalized.
Yes, why not try to prevent hospitalizations instead of waiting until they are hospitalized to treat? It is inexpensive, and it won't harm anyone.
Staying away from hospitals seems to be a really good idea.
People used to know a lot about caring for themselves and others at home.
My mother (born in 1909) took care of our medical needs with common
products like aspirin, Pepto Bismol, Vick’s vapor rub, Epsom salts; soakings, applications of heat and cold. She nursed two children through pneumonia and two through ground rattler snake bites (using persimmon leaf poultices to draw out the poison).
She also put on the whole armor of God every single day and was full time in the home.
Wow!
Persimmon leaf poultices!?!?
Great to know!
Your last sentence answers the question “why not” 😕
https://x.com/DrSyedHaider/status/1895409269664813293
Yes! Dr. Haider talks about Vitamin A.
So.... Vitamin A AND Ivermectin!
And budesonide. I read that they refused to give the girl breathing treatments. WTH? Are we back to C absurdity?
I thought the initial argument for the vaccines was that these childhood illnesses were dangerous for adults to get because it made them much sicker than kids? Certainly, I've read that measles outbreaks among US recruits early in WWI were a huge problem heading into the Spanish flu epidemic because these young men often died of pneumonia (because this was pre-antibiotics).
A child that dies of these illnesses has to be very weak for other reasons. I grew up in the 1950s and 60s with a younger sister who had a severe congenital heart defect that compromised her ability to get enough oxygen. The only time the doctors really worried about her catching anything was when I came down with rubella (we called it German measles) on the day my sister was due to be sent home from hospital after open-heart surgery. My mother was told to disinfect the house and get me out of there (I was sent to stay with my grandmother).
Other than that instance, my sister survived all of the other illnesses without having to be hospitalized: measles, chicken pox, mumps, whooping cough, Scarlet fever. While it may be that she had a robust immune system despite her heart defect, the doctors never seemed to be concerned about her catching them as a general principle and they appeared to have been correct.
Re <argument for the vaccines was that these childhood illnesses were dangerous for adults to get because it made them much sicker than kids>
This was a big pharma marketing ploy.
Well, there was obviously some truth to it, at least before antibiotics became available, because the army had to deal with the fact that young men (i.e. 18-early 20s) were dying in droves from complications from measles (NOT from measles itself).
There's a lot more to be discovered about the Spanish Flu epidemic... apparently, that was caused by "vaccines" as well... and spread from the US to Europe via our young soldiers....
Truth is, we've been played for way too long...
As Concerned mom says vaccines were given to young soldiers. It was the protocols of the medical profession that harmed them, large doses of aspirin have been mentioned by others for example. It caused the complications just like the COVID 19 scam.
When doctors control what information is released it is unlikely they will blame their own actions.
A girl friend posted that Kennedy was taking away her beloved flu shots. She explained that she has a lung condition and her doctor tells her to get one annually. She was practically spitting out the words ‘I will never listen to RFK (she forgot the jr) for MY medical advice’.
I calmly asked her if she’d like my list of immune boosters, and where to go in Portland to get them! Ha ha! Haven’t heard back and I probably never will. She’s one who had groceries delivered and left them on the porch for a day to de-germ 🤣
I agree. He wants the truth out there about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. The flu vaccine is no more effective than placebo. It may be that the MMR vaccine is effective against measles with minimal risk, but until real non-biased studies are presented to the world at large, people are not going to know the truth.
A Midwestern Doctor had what I thought was a pretty balanced take on this.
All vaccines are a scam but have been made to look effective by persistent and aggressive marketing. marketing.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and
Yep! Why aren’t people more concerned about their overall resistance ie health and fitness instead of fearing the unseen virus? Such a disconnect typical of people at this time is an attitude of having it all without any accountability. Everything has consequences, especially farming out your responsibility of your own healthcare trusting government.
Melissa Floyd says, "You have to stop expecting expansive radical change in just a few weeks."
Exactly! Look how much it took for people to even begin to question with covid. So that means that the people still worried about measles didn't even catch on with covid. Their trust in vaccines is so deeply entrenched in their minds!
When he joined forces with Trump, I thought to myself that he really must have gotten some iron-clad promises from Trump to agree to do so, after what happened to him last time.
And I have said that no matter what happens policy-wise, his position allows him to get messaging out to a much wider audience that would otherwise not hear it. And that makes our advocacy easier, and opens up doors for discussions with people who previously were not interested.
Agreed... I have watched loads of his interviews and read/ listened to some of his books... there is no way he could be 'pro-vaccine'!
💯 and Freedom Health Defense (the ones who brought the case that removed masks on airlplanes) mentioned there are some big things happening in the courts in the next few weeks. The Supreme Court 1905 Jacobsen case that people use to mandate vaccines is one piece. And she said it didn't flat out allow mandates, but allowed mandate otherwise pay a fine of $5. Stopping the mandates is probably Step 1 and with a court decision behind him, the attackers will have less to stand on.
If you noticed in RFK’s article, he blatantly told everyone what the best cure for measles is, something you’ll NEVER HEAR from jab-happy doctors or Big Pharma: VITAMIN A. To my mind, that’s what the crux and the goal of the editorial was…
I’m most afraid of how Big Pharma and the globalist corruptocrats they sleep with can easily at any time strategically release into our society a virus or disease just to create a specific narrative they need to bring down RFKJr and block him from what he needs to do. They can even tamper with the care someone is getting in order to steer it. We have already seen they don’t care about gambling with the loss of other people’s lives. Weren’t they also just recently planning on testing a new COVID vaccine on 10,000 children before he pulled it?
I think we need to buckle in and anticipate them to play really dirty with our nation’s health and cause outbreaks to “prove” that anti-vaxxers are dangerous, especially the one sitting in the HHS chair. He’s not even an anti-vaxxer, but he’s certainly not pro-vax either! And THAT is too much of a threat for these monsters.
Frankly by giving the MMR vaccine to this child who was already sick they caused the death and knew the diagnosis would be positive for measles because it was a live vaccine so they could say the death was from measles.
The word from the father and a doctor treating other family members was that she was NOT given any vaccines. However, they also did not give her “breathing treatments” as he requested. Probably wasn’t wheezing, so they didn’t consider the anti inflammatory benefits of Budesonide. :(
just to reiterate:
I know the 1950's were a long time ago but WE ALL GOT MEASLES. NOT VACCINES. Nobody died. It was part of being a kid in America. Lasted about a week and was quickly forgotten. Have the rest of you completely lost your minds?
I’m as anti-vax as you are, but there were, and still are deaths from measles encephalitis, primarily in other countries. Lost two healthy classmates back in the day after their intentional exposure. It happens, and for us to deny it is just as wrong IMHO as the denials from the other side.
One theory I have read on the measles vaccine is that many of the older people who had measles as youngsters are now dying i& our true herd immunity is vanishing. So we have to depend on the younger people with their vaccines which are known not to be lifelong immunity Years ago People used to give their kids cod, liver oil so that when they got the measles, they weren’t very sick.
Therefore, God also highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
— Philippians 2:9-11 LSB
I know that my Redeemer lives!
At the Last
When every word is spoken
And every breath exhaled
When every last thing happens
And mankind’s spirit fails
My Savior who lives forever
Will take His stand at last
And the time for turning to Him
Will tragically have passed.
But He Himself will count those
Whose names He’s written down
As saved for all eternity
In Him forever found.
- Janice Powell 2024
This is all I need. Thank you. It is all we need to know, that there is only a small bit of His creation resisting and only for as long as He allows for the purpose of demonstrating to all that He IS who He says He IS.
Indeed. Jesus is King. 🙏🏼
Regarding Kennedy’s seeming flip flop, Jenna M. Offers her take, which I like and agree with. We all know that when it comes to Trump and his administration, all is revealed as senisical over TIME. let’s take a deep inhale and watch how this plays out.
Jenna’s Side: https://open.substack.com/pub/jennamccarthy/p/rfk-jr-completely-flip-flops-on-vaccines?r=19oj26&utm_medium=ios
Thank you for posting Jenna's article, I was going to do the same. It's very well thought out.
THANK you for sharing! :)
Well done, Jenna!
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Just read that post. Reassuring to read the last set of bullet points. I agree, that’s a huge step forward from a national public health official to:
1. Not state that everyone should get vaccinated (he literally said vaccines for those who want them)
2. Positively endorse vitamins and alternative therapies
3. Briefly review history -measles eradicated by sanitation and other advancements, etc b4 jabs available
4. Discuss safety (or lack thereof)
Thanks for linking everyone to Jenna’s piece. I agree with her. As Jeff always used to say about Trump to those who expected instant miracles: “Let the man do his work.” Kennedy didn’t spend his life as an extremely successful litigator in order to blow it all up in his first 19 days as HHS Secretary.
I read her post and she made some good points. But I think that the sheer size and power of the Medical Industrial Complex makes any profound change unlikely in my lifetime . Think of how many Americans still cling to their various injections and love their doctors, trusting them implicitly. I only know of a handful who have broken free. Incremental changes are good though. And freedom to choose is a significant victory. But MAHA requires going up against the Food Industry, veterinary “science” and Big Ag. It’s going to require a massive shift in public knowledge about real health. I don’t think I’ll be around to see it.
Have you seen the old flccc’s (new name ima?) story about over-the-counter ivermectin trying to get the votes in 10 states! We may see change if it comes every 5 years🤞🏼🍀🌻
I saw that list of states and was so excited to learn that I live in one of them that is considering letting Ivermectin be available over the counter, that I wrote my state assemblyman and senator to urge them to support the bill.
Dittos!
I believe it was Dr. Mary Talley Bowden that said it's good the states are doing it, but you still need to get it from a pharmacists. Only if the federal government makes it OTC can it be on shelves.
I don't trust pharmacists any more than I do physicians. They are all keeping lists of the meds you take, the ailments you are treated for, the doctors you see, etc. I've been on ivermectin weekly as a broad spectrum anti-viral/preventative since January 2021, no illness of any kind during that time. I get it by mail from India - thus no entry in my "ObamaCare Permanent Record." The FLCCC website (or whatever the new name is) has a list of sources and many do not require a prescription. The website also has the preventive protocol with dosages, recommended supplements, etc.
I’m pretty sure that Ivermectin is truly over the counter in Tennessee.
Yes, I agree change IS tough. It took 75 years to bamboozle the population that vaccines are the only way to stay healthy.
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Melissa Floyd says, "You have to stop expecting expansive radical change in just a few weeks."
Exactly! Look how much it took for people to even begin to question with covid. So that means that the people still worried about measles didn't even catch on with covid. Their trust in vaccines is so deeply entrenched in their minds!
When he joined forces with Trump, I thought to myself that he really must have gotten some iron-clad promises from Trump to agree to do so, after what happened to him last time.
And I have said that no matter what happens policy-wise, his position allows him to get messaging out to a much wider audience that would otherwise not hear it. And that makes our advocacy easier, and opens up doors for discussions with people who previously were not interested.
Herd immunity is not a verifible fact. It's an unproven theory. aka a fairy tale. Symptoms of measles are also the same symptoms of many other diseases. There is no way to truly diagnose a case of measles. No one has isolated any measles virus and even the supposed creator of the test to determine measles, Enders, showed that the test was a fraud when he created a culture without the alleged measles virus and got the same results. Right there should have been the end of measles and vaccines for measles. I agree that those who wish to poison themselves with vaccines should have that right. Perhaps that will eventually eliminate the stupid part of the gene pool.
It’s so sad that history and facts are lost on so many who choose instead to live in a world of fear and poisonous “remedies “.
Do you have a link to the Enders situation showing the test was a fraud?
https://viroliegy.com/2021/09/27/enders-measles-paper-1954/ Enders method of finding viruses through the cytopathic effects on cell cultures is what they still use to prove the existence of any viruses. This is in no way isolating anything. There is a summary of the lengthy article at the bottom. Note they state that the culture method doesn't prove the existence of a specific virus or even the existence of viruses at all. And this is what they are using to tell you there is bird flu, monkey pox and every number of viruses.
Thanks that was good to read
Thank you for sharing! Well thought out article that I had to share too.
Jenna is the voice of reason here. Thanks, Jenna!
An excellent take! Thanks for sharing.
Great essay, thanks for sharing!
I think you need to read Kennedy’s piece again if you think he failed to point out nutrition.
YOU are correct!
I failed to read the x post, thank you,
https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1895585297351799198
He did point it out…and it’s included in NEW CDC Measles treatment protocol…so…that’s a good thing.
Why won’t they call the measles outbreak what it is—unvaccinated migrant kids in the schools spreading it around?
Im old enough to remember everyone getting measles back in the 60’s & even the Brady Bunch had an episode & it was NO BIG DEAL 🙄
But yes, 3rd world diseases are back thx to FJB & 3rd world illegals from shit hole countries.
Yep. That and chicken pox. No one freaked out. I remember being happy that I was off school for a week and could watch cartoons and play outside.
Same, Annie! The entire culture was so different - hands off parenting (for the most part) & the fostering of self-reliance, critical thinking & independence have been replaced by helicopter parenting (& worse, including pro-jab & pro-tranny parenting), reliance on GOVERNMENT as “daddy” & “safety” @ all costs.
When I was a teenager, we would ride our bikes around the neighborhood after dinner, in the dark. No helmet of course. This was the 70’s, when kids could be kids.
Yep. Climbed trees (no helmet), no seatbelts, virtually no vaccines other than polio for some (I never got one), walking or biking to school several miles away, could literally be out playing on the desert all day on weekends & my mom wasn’t worried. Just had to come home for dinner when she rang the cowbell that could be heard all over the neighborhood 😊
Yes! Measles is a mild illness and healthy people. I will say that the Covid jabs have compromised people’s immune systems.
I agree, Kathy. And there is still a massive attempt to cover up immune system compromise from the jabs. Going forward for various diseases, viruses, cancers, they can blame “measles” (or whatever the disease du jour will be) for deaths instead of deaths being from immune system compromise that are making people now more susceptible to damage & death. It’s infuriating
That's because the immune system is too busy replicating the spike protein to fight off any invaders.
AND magazine had a substack recently talking about the outbreak of tuberculous from "migrants". Tuberculosis is no joke - especially the antibiotic resistant strains.
https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/deporting-illegals-is-a-good-first?
This says it all... thanks to el gato malo:
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/in-praise-of-lawn-darts
As a child in the early 60’s, I got two kinds of measles, “3 day” and “hard measles”. 3 day was a breeze. I was sicker and it lasted longer with hard but I got through it, just as I got through mumps and chicken pox. We didn’t die from any of these. We survived and built better immune systems, now pretty much destroyed for many of us as seniors, and years of flu, pneumonia, shingles, and covid shots.
Yep... I believe the "hard" measles were the "german" measles. Had that, mumps, and chicken pox... we all survived and have remained healthy throughout our lifetime!
Deb - I had hard measles at 16 and was so bad I missed 2 wks of school. What is the difference between “our “ measles and German measles?
Agreed!
They need to test and see if it’s shedding from the vaccine itself.
Uhm, are they just using PCR tests? Are any of these "cases" even valid?
Question everything!
Yes! The same tests used during Covid that resulted in 95% FALSE positives?
Good point
That’s what I read 😕 And thought the same thing. Are they even really sick with the disease??
Ok…I just saw a reel on Instagram. The child had pneumonia and RSV and they vaccinated them with MMR upon hospital admission. You’re not supposed to vaccinate sick children.
You nailed it. 👏 The current version of tge measles vaccine is the problem.
🙌🏼 this.. as it happens with polio, chickenpox vax.. and really all of them
Can’t we get Tom Homan’s people in to pick up the kids, their parents, their abuelos and drop them off on the other side of the DMZ in Texas?
There was a well publicized outbreak in Disney World, a couple years ago, and 70% of the adults and children who ended up with measles had been vaccinated. It is also easy to test and find out that the outbreak is often caused by the vaccine strain, as opposed to the wild virus. Vaccinated, people shed, and many viruses are always found in the human gut and waste water. There are measles outbreaks every year. Of course this was seized upon by everyone who wants to smear Kennedy or Trump. There is no way RFK changed his mind about this. He was threatened with something. It was reported by a whistleblower on X that the six-year-old child who died had pneumonia. Not something that the measles causes. I’m just hoping that they allow him to conduct some kind of safety trials, or post vaccine follow up studies, which have never been done. He always said that his aim is transparency and informed consent. If we were allowed to study it, we could determine which children might be vulnerable to particular vaccines .We don’t have this now. Every single vaccine causes harm in some people. That is why the company have 100% liability.
Well said, and thanks for the extra info . .. I did not know that the kid had pneumonia who died!
🙌🏼🙌🏼
Yes, it is an inconvenient disease with some difficult side effects, but seldom deadly.
And not even all that difficult in a healthy person.
A lot of the measles cases may be vaccine strain. The MMR is a live virus vaccine and does not stop transmission, in many cases it causes it.
thanks Sheri. I did NOT know that.
Sheri - do you have a link to anything that shows it does not stop transmission?
It’s in the insert, measles is one of the side effects, file:///private/var/mobile/Containers/Data/Application/1B64E349-7302-49D6-BE4E-D1FF81D8FA48/tmp/TempDocs/Package-Insert-Measles-Mumps-and-Rubella-Virus-Vaccine-Live_2.pdf
Seriously?… all children should be unvaccinated… and measles is just fear porn looking for blame
sigh. if here the vaccine must have mania is so strong - meaning covid didn't barely scratch the surface of propaganda compliance - just imagine what its like in the rest of the country.
Apparently it started - or at least spread - in the Mennonite community in West Texas. I would like to know if being officially labeled “vaccinated” for measles has the same 2-week waiting period as being “vaccinated” for C19. (Remember that anyone who caught Covid sooner than two weeks after their second jab was officially considered an unvaxxed case.)
Same with the SADS. “Unvaxxed.” 😡
I would love to know this as well - 2-week waiting after vax to be considered to be vaxxed?
It is from an unvaccinated religious community (Mennonite), not immigrants.
If it is mennonites, why aren’t there outbreaks in PA and MT? Just TX and KA?
Sorry, Kansas.
That doesn’t mean it was “from” them. The child was from their community. They didn’t even have the measles before entering the hospital and they contracted it after receiving care, so it’s false to make the assumption their “unvaccinated community” contracted it in the wild because they weren’t vaccinated. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that is what is going on here. But it sure is enough of a crumb to spread misinformation.
I heard it on cable news and the above commenter asked for a link. I wasn't vetting the info - just trying to help a person who asked.
Jbell,
Can you please provide a link. I haven’t read anything about it being in the Mennonite community.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/03/04/west-texas-measles-outbreak-mennonite-seminole/
Interesting article. Very pro-vaccine. You would think the that we were not lied to about COVID and The Jab. Doctors that pushed the jab have no credibility to me… they were not honest about about the jab and they cared more about the $$$ whether it was keeping their job or they we just greedy. Either way, they went against the Oath they took to do no harm.
Thanks. More propaganda by big pharma stooges blaming unvaccinated.
Thank you!
here's a question - why do you believe anything you read? did covid teach you nothing?
Why would you believe my response? After all, you have to read it.
I read widely. and am equally skeptical
Why do you Ass U Me that I believe everything I read? You know me not. I ask for a link to an article and you think that gives you the right to chastise/bully me and judge my critical thinking ability? Nonsense.
You have admitted that you read; therefore, shouldn’t I judge you as you have judged me? How idiotic.
BTW: I did not get jabbed or wear a mask (except once for about a minute or less) during the entire pandemic. Can you say the same?
Here's another article from Houston Chronicle that gives some background info.
https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/mennonites-measles-west-texas-20189910.php
If so, that fact should be highly publicized to allow the public to understand the situation, the potential for harm(minimal if you're not a Mennonite!), etc.
thats complete nonsense. In the 50's all of us good white middle class kids were unvaccinated. we all got measles. we all lived through it. with nothing more than a week out of school. and a lifelong immunity to shingles.
Our is it the vaccine strain... Del Bigtree did a great segment on measles last week on The Highwire 👍
How's the deportations coming? Seems to have gone to the back burner. Trump and his PR people haven't been giving daily updates.
It has nothing to do with unvaccinated kids, migrant or otherwise. All vaccines are toxic if anything, they are a complete scam.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and
Actually it is probably a combination of unvaccinated illegal kids and Menonite children. Also any home schooled kids that don’t get vaccinated before pre K.
Do you even read what you’re writing? All children should be free of being poisoned from vaccines. Vaccines spread/shed what they are supposed to be “protecting “ you from, and destroy your immune system
Call a spade a spade. . . Not migrant, illegal alien.
Being educated on our dime
#6 on Substack is pretty special Jeff Childers! Congrats!
I was just thinking about that. I had read a breakdown on Bill Rice substack recently where if remembered correctly, Jeff had 160k subscribers [not paid necessarily] and he was one of the top ones. Where did you get that number?
I read it on another substack. I'll attempt to link it.
That’s encouraging! I’m happy to know that the C&C army is growing!
Very cool. Thanks for sharing, Maggie!
not to mention the $500/yr price. . .!
Good one!
RFK Jr.'s concession to measles vaccination was almost certainly, as Childers suggests, a tactical retreat. He's giving up ground now so he can strengthen his forces in what will surely be an even more intense attack later. The media has whipped up so much fear in the public that taking a "scientific" view of the MMR vaccine was inevitably going to be mistimed. When the truth comes out, as it surely will, that the girl died "with " measles and not necessarily "from" measles, the HHS team will be prepared to drop some science truth bombs on the public that will change the narrative. RFK Jr. has certainly not changed his opinion about the vaccine. The science remains the same, and it supports his overall position favoring informed consent.
This is definitely a battlefield that requires intense strategizing on every front and I still think there is no one better than RFK to handle that strategizing. I’m not worried by this op-ed. He didn’t change in a few weeks the values he built over decades under intense pressure.
Makes sense. I'm trying to simply stay patient.
Mark, you will appreciate Jenna’s logical take on this: https://open.substack.com/pub/jennamccarthy/p/rfk-jr-completely-flip-flops-on-vaccines?r=19oj26&utm_medium=ios
Yes, RFKjr gets to point out that "At least five [children diagnosed with measles] had received an MMR vaccine."
Vaccinated, and still got measles.
Pray to God Almighty regarding all of this. The forces of evil and darkness will continue to attempt to divide, confuse and lie to us. Pray to Him for discernment, protection and the correct path to walk. This is a spiritual battle that is being waged against all of us by lunatics, fools, idiots and haters of Mankind. May God intervene to stop it all permanently which He promises to do. Amen.
Media tried everything it could think of to explain how Newsom’s order was not copying President Trump. “Unlike President Donald Trump,” the Sacramento Bee patiently explained, “Gov. Gavin Newsom's orders for state workers to return to their offices four days a week is not punitive.”
Orange man bad and punitive.
Model man good and common-sensical.
Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. But WE KNOW. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY’RE DOING. And the media unwittingly exposes its bias again. Will they never learn??
the same with Obama's deportations and Biden's kids in cages..."AT LEAST they aren't racists like Trump!" "Journalists" like my REAR is
I laughed at that ridiculous statement. Surely everyone knows that the requirement to work in the office five days is “punitive,” but 4 days is the definition of leniency. 🙄😜
No, they won't learn because they don't want to learn.
As evidence by Congresses petulant pouting last night…
The Canadian tariffs just hit me and my tiny rose farm very hard. My rose order bill for Canadian roses which was $9,000 just increased by 25%. I was so close after months of backbreaking work (no employees) to making that bill. Now, I will have to beg for more time. Why Canadian roses do you ask? Because they are grafted on a different and much better rootstock than those in the U.S.
Praying God’s blessings and provision for you and your roses, in Jesus’ name! ✝️🙏🏼💟 please keep us posted!!
Is this a one-time expense to get your stock established? If so, maybe we could do a little C&C fundraiser for you.
It is a one time expense to get my stock established. Most of these varieties are unpatented, which means I can take cuttings and graft new stock for next year’s sales.
I am already so far into business debt that another loan is definitely not something I want to do. I am working a farmers market 70 miles away year around just to get myself and my business debt free. I am a one woman show and this farm will be my retirement as a rose nursery and public rose garden.
Let’s do a fund raiser!!
I was going to suggest that too!
I’m so sorry. Sadly, this has to be done. I hope you can hold on.
Jennifer/Jay, your mission statement is beautiful. God will bless you. https://www.sweethilltopfarm.com/?category=0
I look forward to trying some of your essential oils! ❤️🙏🏼🌹
Thank you so much! I think you will really like what you ordered! Your order will ship out today!❤️
Does your business ship? Forgive my ignorance, what is your business name/website? Maybe C&C can help support your sales with a BUYcott. If you only sell locally, maybe there’s some people here near your area. I can only speak for myself, but I bet if your products are good quality, people would be willing to pay more.
Yes I do ship! My website is www.sweethilltopfarm.com
Shipping is free over $150.
Do you make the lip/blush? I just planted a David Austin climbing rose- Claire Austin variety to hopefully [never grown roses] train up a pergola. I love the shrub roses.
Yes I do. The botanical personal care and cosmetics are my 20 year project. No chemical colors, fragrances, or dyes.
Nice! Just ordered a few things.
Wow what a lovely website. I bookmarked it. We are on a limited income and I can’t enjoy luxury purchases (yeah, pretty flowers are a luxury for me) but if ever I can splurge it will definitely be with you.
I hope C&C can help you through this period. I know the folks here surely will try. I hope anyone who owns a business and is affected by the tariffs reaches out to let the C&C Community know how we can help. We will stick together.
And maybe you can start an American alternative that rivals the Canadian offerings? I don’t mean to hurt their economy either, but our nation has suffered so long to allow other nations benefits we don’t have ourselves. It’s time to bring our businesses home.
I always used to buy my roses from a Canadian grower, Pickering Nursery. But I can no longer find them. Have they gone out of business? My hypothesis was that roses grown in a northern climate would be hardier than roses from, say, South Carolina. (I live in Pennsylvania.)
Pickering had such a wonderful variety of roses, too. I have 40 some in my garden.
I suspect the tariffs will be relatively short lived. Hang in there.
Yes, I am sorry. Pickering closed in 2016. We just lost Palatine up there too…that was the best place for us US growers to find rare, hard to find varieties.
Thanks for letting me know what happened to Pickering. Maybe your nursery can fill the gap.
Are they fragrant, so many now are not 🌹💝
Yes. I specialize in old fashioned style, hard to find fragrant French, German, English, and Canadian varieties. I have 180 varieties or more now. www.sweethilltopfarm.com
Your website is beautiful and in OK, USA!I will place an order later today, thanks for this info. 🪴
That is so kind of you! Thank you!
I’ve sent your website to my family and friends 🙏
Nice website, Jennifer & Jay. Maybe the C&C army can help out by supporting your business. May God bless you and your farm. 💐🌹
Agree! I was just checking out the website too. And sharing among my flower friends. We can all place some nice orders to help support a C&C family member. :D
Thank you! That is so very kind!❤️
Thank you so very much!
I looked at your website; you have some wonderful roses. I love the fragrance of old roses which makes a single bloom each year worth it.
Praying that the Lord helps you find a way through... God bless you
They warned everyone ahead of time that it was likely the tariffs would go through, and when they do expect a 25% increase in the final bill. They also haven’t added on the shipping yet. I am concerned about that too.
"Rose gangsters" - that brought a chuckle!!
The measles story is a clear example of a double standard. "Patient privacy" is asserted on a measles death if you question the health of the patient. And yes, I am rightly accused of lacking any sort of empathy because "this is the death of a child." Yes, it is the death of a child that you, the media, are irresponsibly using to push a certain agenda. So...completely okay to exploit the death of a child to push an intervention, but it's not okay to scrutinize the history of that child to defuse the fear and panic to motivate vaccine uptake?
Yet, if someone dies due to the MMR vaccine, it is said that "they were unhealthy." So then, choose, either you can no longer discuss the death of a child and their patient history, or all pertinent details should be revealed in all cases.
Here is what I do know: the mainstream media has a history of omitting details not pertinent to their narrative.
I've never quite understood why patient privacy is relevant for someone who has passed away. How is a dead person still considered a patient? If the overriding issue is really "public health" (whatever that means) then shouldn't the overall medical condition of the deceased be considered important information for the public? The health version of eminent domain, if you will.
So many hypocritical takes on all this. They can't disclose that medical history on the death of a child with measles because it might undermine their narrative. Meanwhile, we were asked early and often if we got the Covid vaccine.
Not just asked, but anyone who answered in the affirmative got the old “your papers, please” demand.
Interesting that they panicked the American people over Ebola which was on a completely different continent. The headlines were akin to “we’re all gonna die!” I don’t recall the number of deaths from Ebola but it wasn’t as large as they let us think. And now they are trying to panic us over the death of one child!
I wrote on the subject of Measles this week with the title "You're Going To Die If You Don't Read This Post." The hysteria surrounding measles has gone to the absurd. And you can sense they don't want to stop with merely vaccinating, but rather employing again masks, social distancing, and other measures that were ridiculous and restrictive. And behind this is the thought that "if it saves one child..."
Again: The United States Constitution grants no power to the federal government over health issues. The entire department of Health and Human Services is unconstitutional. It needs to be dismantled and its usurped powers returned back to the individual states and the people. The present measles situation demonstrates how inept the feds are in administrating public health policies. The question of vaccine causation of autism remains unanswered due to the feds collusion with big pharma and the resultant malfeasance and suppression of credible evidence.
As a Washington state resident, that scares me. Our only hope here is for some Federal intervention.
What would be best is an HHS agency that firmly remains disconnected from ALL conflicts of interest in EVERY industry, and remains true to the science - unmovable on the highest standards required for any public health policy, recommendation, or claims. Sort of how the Supreme Court is supposed to be above the muck that the lower courts swim in, our HHS should be above the muck too and impenetrable to manipulation; the gold standard to follow but not without the ability to engage and openly debate their recommendations. (The problem is they have made everyone believe that they have been the gold standard all along, but they refused to be questioned or challenged, and that’s why it’s so hard to change.)
All states should adhere to proper uncompromised, gold standard scientific testing/analysis methods and reporting of their claims, or face significant fines and consequences for misleading their citizens. That’s what I thought the federal government was for, to protect citizens from harm both foreign and domestic. States are domestic. They should be allowed their sovereignty to handle most things in government according to their citizen’s will, but they should not be allowed to run roughshod over the Constitution or lead their people into clear and significant harm. If they truly believe vaccines protect their citizens from harm then they need to present the uncompromised science that supports that belief, or back off.
Like I would not think a state should ever be allowed to pass mandates to vaccines, or impose consequences to not complying, and some kind of law needs to exist at the federal level to prevent that, without interfering with what the state chooses to make available to its citizens. I would think that’s the purpose of an HHS department. A federal watchdog. Obviously very dangerous when infiltrated by dishonest brokers.
We can only hope and pray THIS is RFK's end game and he may arrive at it via a very circuituous route.
re: “Gov. Newsom orders California state workers to return to office 4 days a week."
In Arizona, I had to get my expiring driver's license renewed. I have one of the type referred to as gold star because I previously had presented all my citizenship documents (travel ready). I called the MVD help line, after waiting 20 mins a courteous female helper came on the line. I asked her if she was in the office where I live. She said No she worked at home as part of a "Call Center". I explained my situation and asked her what additional documents I needed to renew my license. She asked if this was my first renewal of the gold star license. I said yes. She said all the documents I previously submitted would be necessary, including my birth certificate, passport, proof of address, etc. I asked her why, she said she couldn't answer why. I went to the MVD and presented my expiring driver's license and they renewed it without requiring me to provide any additional documents. I did not ask the MVD agent - who was actually working in an office - about it.
Gotta love those "at home convenience" "workers".
To be fair - you easily could have gotten that bad answer from the "in office" workers as well. Location has little to do with competency.
How is that being fair, I simply stated the facts, you arrived at your own unsubstantiated conclusion. Do you live in Calif? Oregon? Do you work in office or "work" at home? Are you a gov employee?
Or are you someone simply playing silly games with the childish moniker, afraid you might have to actually go back to work?
Wow - triggered much? Or do you truly think that someone being "in office" means that they are competent? Yeah - we've all had those bad workers with bad answers - both in-person and over the phone. I still stand by my statement that location has little to do with competency.
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about anyone who works outside and office. If that's the case - I doubt there's reason to continue this as it seems like it will devolve into insults.
Who is triggered? I simply asked you some questions which you don't want to answer.
Of course you will stand by your statement, and without providing any facts.
Yes but the person could have easily checked with another worker if they’d been in the office and not at home.
They can easily check with another worker if remote as well. Communication is rarely an issue these days unless you reach someone in another country where they're just a call center with absolutely no knowledge outside of the scripts/kb they're given.
It depends. You certainly can’t just turn to the person beside you and ask. It is a little more complicated than that. Sure you can call someone or text or whatever but it’s not the same as being in person. Someone could also overhear and correct what the person said which isn’t really going to happen in a remote situation.
For the record, I’m not opposed to remote work, sometimes it can make sense, but it is different than being in person.
"I wouldn’t dare offer any predictions. Everything Trump has done since he took office has defied predictions or even reasonable expectations. "
It would be a hoot if he just started naming every critter on the Epstein list. Then put on some dark glasses, drops the mic, and does his little dance as he walks off the stage.
If the Dems start disrupting with horns whistles and yelling, I hope he points out to the Am people watching that these are CHILDREN. And tells the Dems this is why you lose. They are disgusting
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WELL, HE is on the list too. As are some of his kids.
Look over the contact list published by Bondi and available on line.
That does not mean he flew with Epstein, just in his black book.
Means nothing. If it did... it would have been used.
The list is being edited... to remove jews. AIPAC is a cancer on this nation.
The best part of President Trump shutting off military aid is watching Europe spend much more than they normally commit to.
The coup de gras will be when when Europe sends their troops to Ukraine for the next three years minimum
The populace will revolt as all their tax dollars will be spent on the liberal’s Muslim invasion and Ukraine’s rebuild/peace keeping force
I’m so relieved that the US taxpayers will be supporting an America First approach we have much to fix here
Thuletide posted this about the size of Europe's military vs Russia and Ukraine.
https://t.me/thuletide/7299
If you can't open the TG link he is on Twitter too. Bottom line in 2024 Russia has 1.5 million, Ukraine 800k, UK 138k, France 204k, Poland 216k, Germany 185K
So far the only counties in the EU that support sending their troops is France and UK
Italy just told Stermer and Macron to pound sand
Yes. I just wanted to include most of the main players from the post.
Don’t you think our spigot will be turned back on once Zelinski gets in line?
If he gets in line, I think the war is over. Then we might send humanitarian aid. Like sheets!
Hopefully not I’d like to see EU take up the slack and become big boys for once
The question is - are you better off with near-universal MMR vaccination and few cases of measles, or less MMR and more cases? I'd opt for more measles, fewer jabs. It's inevitable that with declining MMR jab uptake, there will be measles outbreaks. Any fool knows that. So, since this admin seems very well-prepared, the opposite of Trump 1.0, I presume they have a strategy to counter the coming attacks when measles cases spike. I sure hope so, anyway. Not an easy task, given that most of the public is still under the spell of the vaccine religion.
I think we need to shut the measles trackers down.
It can be like any other normal childhood infection. Get it, rest up, get better, move on.
Agree. We all had it when I was a kid. Not only do you get lifelong immunity to measles, there is some evidence having had measles affects your immunity in ways that are useful against cancer and other attacks aside from measles. No such benefits from the jab, quite the opposite.
I had it as a child. While working in a hospital, bored occupational health did a blitz and recommended all employees get a blood test to see what your measles titre was. Everyone got vaxxed who had low titres. Before being forced to be vaxxed, I questioned this since having measles as child. They made the excuse, “it wanes”. Four months later I was was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis along with two other employees, (that I knew of, but likely there were more).
Yes, and so you make a great point.
Taking this shot each individual(their parents, dammit) must be made aware of the alternative[no jab] and what the adverse affects[initially, and for LIFE] if they take the MMR jab, and how bad the measles might be as to symptoms and potential for death, and how it can be prevented with vitamin therapy.
It is commonly believed that the triple valence jab itself has interactions that cause adverse effects. At the very least breaking out the 3 components is reasonable to prevent the confusion of adverse affects and not knowing which direction to regard them-- M, or M, or R?!
I don’t trust the “trackers”. That’s where the deception lies and is supported. We need to hone in on how to prevent the corruption in “testing”and the tampering with the analysis and results of such testing. If they can’t have that leg to stand on their science falls apart. Just like how they defiled the medical journals to prop up their authority. It all needs to be torn down and let real science stand up.
Japan stopped giving the combined MMR in 1993 because of adverse effects and now gives them separately. That would at least be a start for us.
YES!
I will second that.
AND why do boys get the Rubella component? - when I was a lad at school it was just the poor females of the species that had to line up to get the German measles injections 💉 🙄
We have forgotten what measles looks like, and how mild it usually is. And somehow seem to accept the 1/36 kids neurologically harmed on the spectrum.
I see the democrats are promising "defiance" when President Trump addresses Congress tonight.
I half expect them to break out into a Māori haka dance en masse on the floor of the chamber during Trump's address as they continue to beclown themselves.
Should be an interesting night.
I’m expecting mass arrests of criminal government officials.
One by one, issued an arrest warrant, cuffed and paraded out!
That would be beautiful!
Like the father of one of the dead Maines at Abbeygate.
Yes! - I give the father praise for having the courage and strength to make his voice heard!
The democrats say boycott. I say avoiding arrest warrants.
That would be awesome!!!!
When they all leave in a tantrum. Fill every empty seat with real Americans, military enlisted people, teens and mothers and fathers, children. Singles, Take the time to comfortably seat them all. After all, it’s OUR congress.
Maybe the Epstein list release is announced, and legislators start heading for the exits...
If the republicans were smart they would counter every “guest” the democrats bring (fired federal employees) with equal representation of North Carolina residents, pipeline workers, Covid era job losses, families who lost people to open border crimes, etc etc. If the Dems are going to bring show and tell, then we should too but double the numbers.
I just had visions of 200 Elaine's [Steinfeld] dancing.
Not gonna' lie - I kind of want to see that now. Just picture someone like Schumer doing that dance. We thought the Kente cloth stunt was ridiculous? A protest dance would be gold!
Speaking of dancing, I found it very interesting to see those who received the Epstein files did a little coordinated dance. That doesn’t come off in step organically. Seriously these people practiced a choreographed dance to do at the same time?
Those dancing jews bring back memories of Israel's 9/11 attacks... and I wonder if/when the 9/11 TRUTH will ever come out...
https://www.unz.com/article/israel-did-9-11/
Nobody mentioned it’s Fat Tuesday!
As are the democrats. :-)
The Maori don't think so.