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Tuco's Child's avatar

A new ☕🦠 Classic:

"Joe Biden has the cognitive status of a medium-sized Mexican cucumber"

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Ray Bob's avatar

As The Unofficial spokesman for the Cucumber community, we take great offense that you think Joe Biden is intelligent as a cucumber.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

It does seem to denigrate all cucumbers. 🤣

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Angk's avatar

I hate to get in the middle of men being boys, but having spent time in Mexico, we enjoyed the little cukes- very crunchy and sweet. And, now, I'll carefully back out of the topic. 😁

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MaryAnn's avatar

Angk—I am stealing ‘men being boys’ phrase and will use it lovingly, of course!😂 Love your wit ❤️

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Justin's avatar

I for one am planting cucumbers today.

What? I'm trying to make lemonade from... Uh... Cucumbers.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Agua de pepino, cucumber water, is a pleasant summer drink, without the acidity of lemonade. It also blends nicely with pineapple,

Ingredients

8 cups water

2 cucumbers, sliced thin

Method

Add the sliced cucumbers to a large pitcher or jar

Pour in the water and stir well.

Cover and refrigerate for at least 4 hours or overnight.

Keep the water refrigerated.

Serve with or without ice

Drink within 3 days.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

What happens after (3) days if the mixture is not completely consumed--does it "work" and become a form of "cukeahol", Lydia?

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

No idea. It never lasts more than a day in my house. I suppose the cukeahol would make an interesting addition to a Pimm's Cup.

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Anna T's avatar

My nail salon always has this kind of water on hand for customers, as well as lemon water.

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cltwilson1's avatar

Do you peel the skin?

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Nothing is ever simple, is it? :) If it is a regular cucumber, I peel it. If it is an English cucumber, the ones that come wrapped in clear film, you don't have to, just wash it first.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Cuke, Janice - (smile)

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Well when you vote a Marxist into office you can bet the dildo of consequences will arrive on the dry...

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

unforunately, the cuke reference misinforms the truly flaccid nature of krauted cabbage.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

"Cuke" lolol. I've never knew that was a reference to a cucumber!

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

only in rare circumstances and perhaps limited to canadian cukes — so a very limited hand down errr hang out. lol!

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

new england cukes, too!

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MaryAnn's avatar

Deciphering my mom’s grocery list (cukes), I only asked once. 😁

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

lol

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LMWC's avatar

I, myself was more beholden to former president Cabbage.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Me too

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Quiltlady's avatar

I think we need to give Jeff a break here. He's running out of vegetables!

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Hoffmeister's avatar

Jeff was on a jalapeno roll today!

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Janet's avatar

A head full of Brussels sprouts? Mini cabbages that roll around taking out the non cabbage parts.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Or just sprouts—that tangled mess of white/green sprigs infused with exploded seed pods.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Rutabaga!

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Sherry 1's avatar

Now, now, it’s only Mexican cukes.

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Janet's avatar

I’v switched to zucchini.

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Juju's avatar

I loved “it’s not even Venezuelan apples to Columbian oranges. It’s diamonds to overripe avocados” when comparing choice of immigrants. 🤣

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JW's avatar
Mar 22Edited

I heard a great idea for Biden. Similar to giving the screaming "I wanna play too" little brother a Nintendo controller that is not connected to the game. Then after the real controller makes a play and say "Great job Biden! You did that!" And he is happy and leaves to find more ice cream.

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Tom's avatar

They "accidentally" gave an autopen instead of a controller.

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Steenroid's avatar

Yeah I’ve been using Cabbage Head but like Mexican Cucumber better.

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MARCI's avatar

I like Bokchoy Biden, Chinese white cabbage.

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

Zhou Bokchoi BaiDeng

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Susie & Security's avatar

How dare you. That's racist!! LOL. You should've used a DEI cabbage.

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Dean's avatar

Not even that of a large sized Mexican cucumber. 😂

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Guy White's avatar

<snort> napkin please! ☕️ 🤧

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Valerie's avatar

Instant classic! 🥒😂

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Carlos's avatar

Not fair…..Mexican cucumbers aren’t that dumb and evil…..ask the children.

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Stephen Carter's avatar

A medium-sized, soft & rotting, mucho-organic memtally-challenged Mexican cucumber.

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JJ Chester's avatar

Hilaria asks, "How do you say cucumber in English?"

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

IKR? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Patti's avatar

I know so good 🤣

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

As the official representative of medium-sized Mexican cucumbers, I resent that slur and deny it. ☺️☺️

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

And Kamala was likely a direct victim of MK Ultra in Montreal, where we know the most about the evil experiments because of lawsuits brought against the perpetrators. Hard evidence is so far lacking in Kamala having been a subject BUT that would account for her showing basically all the signs of having been severely psychologically abused and broken by the program

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

As soon as I read the declassified Operation Northwoods document in 2011, I knew the CIA was behind JFK’s assassination, and probably every other one since then. And I knew if the CIA and Joint Chiefs could agree to murder American citizens on American soil, they were capable of the very worst evil, sick behavior and actions anyone could think of. That includes 9/11, murdering school children, Epstein Island, the Manson Family murders, drug running, you name it. Remember journalist Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury News? Once you lose the trust of American citizens to that degree, you might as well completely decommission and dismantle the entire organization once and for all, and make sure none of the players every work in any type of government capacity ever again.

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Kat's avatar

Let’s not forget the mother of an autistic boy reported these vermin secretly meeting with her son to discuss the possibility getting him a weapon to commit violent acts. The entire set up was initiated in a chat room online. The mother was appalled and reported the incident. Personally I’ve always thought this was the case of many school shooters in an effort to take away our 2nd Amendment. Never underestimate the deceit and hatred of our intelligence agencies towards US citizens.

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TamalpaisRose's avatar

William (Bill) Cooper, in the 90’s, talked about the secret government in his book: Behold a Pale Horse: “Using drugs and hypnosis on mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the antigun lobby. This plan is well under way, and so far is working perfectly. The middle class is begging the government to do away with the 2nd amendment.”

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I will go to war if they ever attempt to do away with the 2A.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Did he actually speak the TRUTH about 911???

https://www.unz.com/article/israel-did-9-11/

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

I think he would have but not sure. Recommend you check him out

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daverkb's avatar

Exactly right. And there is a pattern to all of this. For one thing, most false flags tend to occur on astro-Blue turf. And then their is all of the MK-Ultra stuff which years ago I had a hard time believing, but it kept coming up all the time like a bad penny.

The CIA had committed wholesale treason for decades using the worst sorts of scum/dirt bags, including organized crime thugs. Warring against the American people is treason.

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

Yeah MK Ultra was huge. 30,000 direct victims. Their knock on consequences and the fact that techniques developed in MK Uktra have been employed in information warfare has resulted in the injury of virtually every living American and the nation

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

Yes, spot on. Nearly every American has been the victim of trauma-based mind control, primarily through 9/11, although prior to that, the assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK were also taken advantage of for that purpose, and then new generations of children have been traumatized during covid and school shootings. And trauma has secondary effects on people, i.e. cancer: https://www.nickersoninstitute.com/blog/psycho-oncology-how-unresolved-emotional-trauma-can-cause-cancer

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LoveIsCourage's avatar

Kamala was likely a direct victim of MK Ultra in Montreal, where we know the most about the evil experiments because of lawsuits brought against the perpetrators. Hard evidence is so far lacking in Kamala having been a subject BUT that would account for her showing basically all the signs of having been severely psychologically abused and broken by the program

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Appreciate reading the metaphorical “bad penny” - hadn’t thought of that one in a long time. Same here about MK-Ultra!

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Dave Slough's avatar

If you look at the CIA through a current lens it isn’t outlandish see the CIA orchestrating the Butler hit. Damn the CIA even had CNN there to get the historic scoop on tape

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE INDEED.

These are incredibly evil people.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

YES!!! And now they’re using trannies.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

That’s sick but very plausible.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Great points.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Childers: "The CIA was never chartered to police Americans."

It's all the CIA's fault - Right? Think about it. No Government agency acts out of it's own volition. They are ALL controlled by somebody. Who controls the CIA? Who directs the illegal, traitorous activities which has become the CIA's sole mission?? People like Kissinger and even more obscure, elite figures in the background?

Get the picture? We could completely dismantle the CIA and all we would have accomplished is to cut off one tentacle of the hidden monster. There will be no actual accountability of the people who orchestrate this evil. They will simply move their operations to a new venue.

Yes, the CIA should be destroyed. But we must understand that has only cut out a tumor of a disease that still runs rampant in the body politic.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

“If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”

‭‭II Chronicles‬ ‭7‬:‭14‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Hence the essential nature of spiritual healing and renewal.

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Carlos's avatar

Amen and Amen 🙏

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Vicki's avatar

Absolutely TRUE!!!!! Go after the Soros, Rockefeller, Rothschild, etc. Links!

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

Not to mention the CIA’S associations with the Mexican drug cartels. There’s lots of dark money to made by that association, money which can’t be traced and can be used to fund black ops.

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Dave Slough's avatar

You also have the CIA - Maifia link

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Hoffmeister's avatar

CIA spawned from WWII OSS ops, metastasized under the Dulles brother "leadership". Looking at that, you then readily associate Rothschild money/power, as well as all the historical clandestine societies- Templars, Freemasons, etc. as influence behind the directors. Add that operational influence into current clubs and societies- think Skull& Bones and other

" educational clubs" - which ties current and future government service employees with business and financial contacts and expertise. Throw in some gung-ho extreme patriot military " protectors ", fund it all thru drug distribution and sales, " legit business ops ( air america ) to launder and re-direct cash contributions, OK, enuf, this octopus has numerous tentacles that need to be lopped off, which Pres. Trump and Team have started to do, identifying and removing funding sources ( taxpayers ) people, businesses, and gov't. departments. We the people have really had our eyes opened ( and I thot I was already awake ), ...We now have a leader....Fight, Fight, Fight! ( or

" Hang'em High " if you're into westerns )

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e.'s avatar

Can we get a move on renaming Dulles International Airport - like pronto

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MarshaLouise's avatar

You’re correct: lop off the tentacles and hang ‘em high!

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daverkb's avatar

Government by Blackmail, a CIA specialty, gutted the government of oversight and engendered Clown Presidents like Vegetable Bidden and gutted Congress by fear and intimidation. CIA domestic terrorism unpunished renders the American justice system a joke.

The above may be overwrought in order to make a point, but not by much.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Effectively, the CIA became the Gov't as they had the blackmail on everyone even if they had to manufacture the blackmail. Just a more sophisticated Mafia operation.

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liz's avatar

AND MOSSAD was running the blackmail ops. for guess who' s benefit.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

"... gutted Congress by fear and intimidation...

Sounds a LOT like the operations of AIPAC.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Perfect as stated.

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daverkb's avatar

Hum! You have got a point. AIPAC, CIA, MOSSAD? They all paddle around in the same canoe.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Ha ha - “Bidden” - good one!

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Many are still unwilling to name the source that’s behind the CIA (read “The Final Judgment” by Michael Collins Piper), but it’s getting exposed slowly. For now, though, if we can cut out the conduit that provides the access to US officials (the CIA) it will seriously hamper that source’s ability to have such massive control.

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Kat's avatar

Once the money source is tracked or cut off, hopefully this will defang these monsters!!

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Susie & Security's avatar

That's looks like a great book. It is also a long book - over 1,100 pages. Kindle version is just $4.99.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Now, I’ll have to check Amazon…sounds interesting and “final” is a gripping word.

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Maha's avatar

Well, there could be accountability, learned off shore at a CIA black site, when gentle coaxing brings out the names and locations of the string pullers. I'm sorry, but turnabout is fair play.

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Salt's avatar

Romans 12:19 KJV

[19] Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Justice, not vengeance, is our job. We are to be lights in this dark world.

Psalm 37:1-2 KJV

[1] Fret not thyself because of evildoers, Neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity. [2] For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, And wither as the green herb.

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liz's avatar

God helps those who help themselves, I hear. ;)

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Here, Here!

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MarshaLouise's avatar

And “Hear! Hear!”

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MarshaLouise's avatar

This murder of a woman, who wanted to use LSD for peace, is similar to that of Seth Rich…and it would appear that the Dulles brothers got this thing started. Now, I’m wondering about the Clintons and their relationships with the Dulles brothers. So much evil!

Mary P Meyer’s murder was a case of she ‘knew too much’, like Seth Rich. No investigations though? Hmmm.

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liz's avatar

if you read Mary's Mosaic. Peter Janney does such an incredible job he pretty much solves it for you since the po po are so uninterested. another big part of the story was Dovey the Attorney getting Crump off. almost unheard of in those days. Black patsys went down for crimes they didnt do on the regular.

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liz's avatar

Im writing the screenplay... ;) in case you know any smart producers who want to be connected up!

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Once again, the reference to Talbot’s “Final Judgment”.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Thank you…will complete my listening later, but this is undoubtedly a weak link for Pres Eisenhower.

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striketheroot's avatar

Given the extent to which Zertain Extra National parties control our political machinery and media, is it too much of a stretch to suspect their involvement if not control of the U.S. intel apparatus?

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Politico Phil's avatar

At a minimum, they are definitely intertwined on an operational basis. Huge international implications.

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Lone Star exile's avatar

I've never heard of this zertain group, and neither has my AI. Please elaborate.

Thanks

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Abiding Dude's avatar

"Z"... as in ZIONIST

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Not sure I completely agree Phil. The deep state bureaucrats believe they are unaccountable to the Citizens and or the POTUSA. Partially because the Uniparty has given them massive money and laws which enable them to do anything they want with no accountability. Together they are the institutional "democracy" they want to force on us. Trump is an existential threat to their institutional democracy.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

But at least it’s a start.

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AB's avatar

This!!

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

"cannot be cleaned"

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Lori's avatar

Bravo FEF. I would add to bury their DNA so far underground it will never resurface again.

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Beth M's avatar

Yeah but it really wasn't the CIA so much as it was Mossad. Letting them off the hook and putting all the blame on the CIA is like arresting Epstein and not charging a single one of his clients. Oh wait, that's how they operate anyway.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Beth, I will go as far as saying there is deep collusion between Mossad, CIA, MI6. EVIL, EVIL PEOPLE.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Because every thing evil is the fault of Jews, right?

Your Hitler Memorial Library card is expiring soon.

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Maha's avatar

Oh no, not another Jew hater. Seriously?

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daverkb's avatar

Ha! Up to the old trick. Scream 'Jew Hater' at the top of the lungs and all sins are mystically and magically rubbed out ... and everyone has to shut up. And right back 'to the people who can never be criticized' gig even if they are up to their necks in false flags and genocide ... like in Gaza.

Okay! I'll say it out loud. The Mossad is full of worthless criminal dirt bags just like the dirt bag CIA. And we have had a belly full of both. And ditto for the degenerate Brit agencies. We the people of many nations are sick an tired of being terrorized by intelligence agencies run amok. We are sick of terrorizing totalitarian governments everywhere whether they be in the EU, the UK, the US or for that matter ... war mongering Israel.

We are sick of dual loyalties because they are a house divided.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Your Hitler Memorial Library card is expiring soon.

By the way, the patriots of Israel have likewise had a belly full of the CIA and its Mossad trainees.

Try listening to Avi Abelow of Pulseofisrael.com

We don’t lump all Americans in with the CIA or blame them for its existence and evil actions. Nor should all Israelis be lumped in with the Mossad that way.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And by the way, tell the Marxist University professors of the world and their terrorist radicalized Jew-hating students that they can’t dare criticize the Jews. Tell it to the U.N.

‘The people who cannot be criticized’ sure do get criticized a lot.

Such a stupid thing to say.

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daverkb's avatar

You present the flip side of the coin. And yes, many, many folks in Israel suffer from the same affliction such as we have been terrorized in the States. People everywhere clamor for normalized, sane lives.

It was not a stupid thing to say. And many people now understand that labels have been weaponized, used to cripple any criticism of Zionist Imperium. It's a fact now well recognized world-wide. It can no longer be swept under the rug.

I would not be surprized given circumstances to see some normalization undertaken in Israel such as we are now seeing in the US. In fact, very highly placed Jews (so-called) now realize that they have a problem, and that is it a worldwide problem, and they understand that a continual never ending uproar in the Middle East will not fly in the upcoming multi-polar new order. The world has decisive changed. And the world is not going to stand for more of the same.

This Gaza thing has brought everything in the Middle East to a head. Something has to give and something will. I don't know in what form, but I'd bet my boots on it. I just hope that Trump will land right side up and on his feet, all on the right side of history.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Amen, Dave! A-fucking-men!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Typical of the lowlife jews... small wonder they have been expelled from over 100 countries... all for GOOD reasons!

https://rumble.com/v457fgc-jews.html

'Jew-hater"... LOL!! And the filthy Zionist swine continue their mass-murder in Gaza... 300,000 innocents dead?

That's more than their bogus WWII "holocaust"!

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daverkb's avatar

Well! There is a real history there. And Henry Kissinger said that anyone having that much trouble must be doing something wrong. And my aunt Camille, a Jew coverted to a fringe branch nominally Christian, long ago stated to me and my mom that the Balfour Declaration and Israel was the worst idea ever come up with ... and only lead to trouble. And that was around 1980.

Oddly, I am not a Jew Hater in that the word 'Jew' is mostly meaningless word. I certainly do deplore Israeli government/Zionist control over the American land mass. But also, what the American Deep State has done to the its own people and the rest of the world is also an epic act of Evil.

The bottom line is: I just hate Evil no matter who the perps are. And I believe that the perpetrators Evil should suffer punishment.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I agree.

But... ask any "normal" or "good" (non-Zionist) jew to renounce and totally reject the Talmud.

Any that refuse are worthy of hate. Most will refuse.

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Beth M's avatar

Lol what?! What is wrong with you people?

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liz's avatar

get a grip - or should I say OPEN YOUR EYES>

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Explain this, you non-kosher ahole!

https://www.unz.com/article/israel-did-9-11/

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I was going to post a comment about the impossibility of saving the CIA if you still have the employees, who have been trained in dastardly deeds for decades.

But you stated it so well.

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Lorita's avatar

Yup, 'dirty dead done dirt cheap', so what comes after, hopefully justice.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

Check this out and you'll never say "Drink the Koolaid" again....

https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.html

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Richard Whitney's avatar

Remember that Congressman Leo Ryan, murdered in Guyana, chaired the House version of the Church Committee, which looked into the criminality of the CIA.

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Donna in MO's avatar

World Vision is still operating today, website says they have operated for 75 years. Wonder how much USAID $$ they've gotten?

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Donna in MO's avatar

Wow - more threads tying together. And how many Jonestowns are still out there? I was horrified by that event, and still remember the pictures of the bodies in my parent's Time Magazine, that I read faithfully as a source of 'news' when I was a kid - was a news/political junkie from an early age. So many of those stories I read have turned out to be false.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Harry Truman authorized the CIA, but may have not realized there was wiggle room for it to have operations capability. At any rate he eventually deeply regretted that capability and wrote op-eds that were published in several newspapers exactly one month after JFK's assassination, saying that the CIA had gone rogue, and asking for their operations branch to either be eliminated or transferred to another agency. The timing was a strong hint that he thought the CIA had a hand in JFK's death.

I saw RFK Jr. speak at a health freedom conference in August 2023. He didn't talk much about what he would do as president beyond the scope of health. But he did say he would divide the CIA into two separate parts: an intelligence gathering branch and an operational branch. I don't remember if he said he would put the operations branch on a much tighter leash but I think that goes without saying.

I put out a new substack on Harry Truman and the CIA last night:

https://skepticalactuary1348.substack.com/p/harry-truman-and-the-cia

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Abiding Dude's avatar

JFK said he would "scatter the CIA to the winds"...

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Nancy Fahey's avatar

Gary Webb’s story is incredible….also the movie….a must see!!!

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him.

— 1 Thessalonians 5:8-10 NAS95

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Ruth H's avatar

Amen. Thanks Janice for always knowing just the right verse to quote.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

The Lord leads me down various trails and then, boom, there it is. So amazing!

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MaryAnn's avatar

Janice: Thank you for reeling me back in and re-grounding me in His promises. ❤️

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Carlos's avatar

Praise HIM.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Always preaching to myself as well! Blessings to you, MaryAnn.

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Heather B's avatar

I have concerns about this Gold Card program to purchase citizenship. Does anyone else? Maybe I am missing something. There are plenty of unsavory characters that have access to loads of money.

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Jeff C's avatar

We all have concerns, but we need to look at the big picture.

This plan completely reverses the *perception* of US citizenship. It's not some cheap status anyone can obtain by sneaking in, but a valuable commodity. Further, it's up to us (i.e. the people born here of legal parents) whether or not we want to let you have it. This plan makes both of these unequivocally clear.

Nearly everything Trump is doing is meant to reverse decades of the US being treated and abused as a doormat. It has caused a substantive decline in the quality of life for regular people. Reversing this takes drastic action.

Seriously, people need to get over their minor qualms and just let Trump be Trump. If he hasn't convinced you by now he's on our side, and a heck of a lot smarter and deeper thinking than most of us, then nothing will.

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Lori's avatar

Booyah!!!

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Patti's avatar

I agree but with everything and everyone we should be aware and question. We got here by not paying attention and not asking. To be complacent again is not a good practice. I agree Trump is aware and I do believe he’s on our side more so than anyone else. Let’s not be complacent

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Johnny-O's avatar

Minor qualms - like operation warp speed, and now operation warp speed 2.0. Elon and the tech bros having access to private data. Larry E and company having close access.....I don't find these to be minor things, but we are all free to our own opinions.

The gold card will likely be used by global elites to come launder their money here btw

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Jeff C's avatar

Hey Johnny - You have shown repeatedly that there is nothing anyone can do that will make you happy short of perfection. Plus you don't offer substantive alternative or plans but just criticize.

Look brother, it's your life and how you conduct it is up to you. But you'll be happier if you try and find some joy in the small things. I say that as you are obviously a smart guy and have perceptive thoughts. But all that negativity is like carrying around a 100 pound weight on your shoulders, and it will take you down eventually.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

He is raising some valid concerns that are important for us to look at. I am concerned how vetted these people will be &, more importantly, who is doing the vetting. I find it interesting that people who have no money & come here illegally, have committed a felony & are deported. Check out how much it costs to obtain US citizenship BTW. The gold carders can pay a million bucks & get a pass. It’s ripe for potential abuse. The same tired old ‘if you’ve got the money, you’ve got the prize’ game. I personally support most of what Trump is doing, however, the gold cards raise legitimate questions.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

One million vetted (no pass) gold cards, costing $5 million each

Versus Biden's 30 million+ un-vetted illegals, PROVEN criminals... mostly penniless parasites.

Make sure your "valid concerns" are appropriately applied.

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char's avatar

Abiding. Versus? Comparing the two seems like comparing oranges and ...turnips ?

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daverkb's avatar

Maybe you are right? Maybe you are wrong? But really? Citizenship for sale? The Gold Card stinks of corruption of values beyond price.

Okay! You may argue that the Gold Card is not actual citizenship and you would be technically right. But de facto the buyer of such is resident in the country (just like a citizen) and enjoys rights and privileges being in the country (just like a citizen).

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I think you would agree that we all along should have been deeply vetting ALL legal immigrants... taking in only those most beneficial to the country... yes?

What is so different in allowing in select people that immediately enrich the country, and are fully vetted?

For $5 million each, perhaps, given our monster debt... SHOULD go to the head of the line? A million new vetted green card holders is a drop in the bucket.

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daverkb's avatar

I agree that we should have real borders and we should do what benefits our self interest. And I believe that we should take consideration of what can uphold our national identity, our traditions, our custom and habits.

I believe that selling surrogate citizenship at any price is corruption. Money should never trump moral values, sacred principles.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Jeff, my problem is that there is nearly zero criticism or concerns existing on this forum. Blind allegiance/faith can (will) get us into a lot of trouble. If Trump hadn't gotten rolled by the permanent state the first time around, perhaps I'd be more inclined to relax and trust the guy. It perplexes me how so many claim he got fooled with operation warp speed and out the other side of their mouth they say not to worry because he's playing 5D chess and none of us understand it. Sorry, I just don't buy that.

I'm not in the business of trusting politicians or billionaires, especially when you mix the two. It is our job as citizens to critique and criticize - we are supposed to be their bosses not their servants, which I think many forget (or maybe never even realize that is how it should be).

There are positive things coming from the Trump administration, but many red flags, such as the ultra-zionists he has surrounded himself with....that makes me very skeptical and nervous.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I have been bleating about Trump's kissing Bibi's murderous ass for a long time and it is VERY legit criticism... perhaps his biggest flaw.

Yes, both he and RFK should have already BANNED mRNA death-jabs... also a legit concern. Trump is not an epidemiologist, but should have common sense enough to order the ban... estimates say 17 MILLION dead from the Covid jabs...

Trump is doing many great things but is not without serious flaws.

But compared to Biden? Or a potential Kunta-Kamala Presidency?

I don't give a damn about the Gold card program... I think it is beneficial to the country. Deport 20-30 million illegal unvetted parasites, give green cards to a million people at $5 million each.

That makes no sense to you?

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Johnny-O's avatar

What I said, is that it could create a circumstance for less than savory figures to launder money. I know we agree on the other issues you raised. The gold card thing is a tertiary issue as far as I am concerned.

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daverkb's avatar

You are totally spot on. I am with you.

The Gold Card idea is national prostitution, a surrogate citizenship for sale. It sickened me the second I heard it.

And that Israel and its AIPAC lobby are running the United States and its policy disenfranchises the rest of us. For Americans, logically speaking ... it's either American first or Israel First. It cannot be both.

Ultra-Zionism and Trump. Politically speaking, that's our fault. Trump can only get away with being double-minded because the American people are double minded. But also, and to be fair ... a lot of people living in Israel are sick of NeoCon warmongering ultra-Zionists running the place into the ground. Somehow this state of affairs has to be normalized back to sanity. And the Christian persecution and abuse has to stop. And also, Palestinian persecution and genocide has to stop. And joint Israel/American terrorizing the rest of the world has to stop. People are just fed up.

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Thanks Daverkb...I think many feel the same way, just not necessarily on this forum, and that is okay, and it is also why I continue to bring these points up. People tend to live in confirmation bubbles of information, and so if you read the Jeff Childers's of the world, you get a lot of good info, but a lot is also omitted. I want the whole picture. At the end of the day, both parties generally represent war and empire. Trump admin has some inklings against this, but then again, you turn back to the Israel issue and it is the same as it ever was. I saw a clip of Bongino being asked if there was any issue he was particularly passionate about, and his answer was "Israel's security." Dude, you are second in charge of the federal police force in our country, and your answer is fucking Israel? Astounding.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

So you had no problem with the people robbing you blind having access to that same information. And the fact that for years the IRS had overseas workers auditing your tax returns? Just a renamed department started by Obama and headed up by a billionaire and his band of entrepreneurial digital wizards? These guys aren't just video gaming hackers despite what the media says.

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MayBella82's avatar

I agree. These guys are brilliant and they have security clearances. It is more than most bank employees, realtors, and anyone else who doesn’t work with the government that has your personal information. It is surprising how much information people will give when they want something… but you have someone who is working to get rid of fraud, waste and abuse so we pay less in taxes and now, they question it.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I'm not trying to be rude Sue, but I am really tired of this simplistic type of response - "so you had no problem....." When did I say I had no problem? Never.

In response to your comment - so you are okay with these people accessing your data because you like them? That is your right but I think it is dangerous, especially in the context of the AI race that the WH has explicitly said we will be the leaders in and how invaluable that data is to people in AI, like Musk. It's almost comical that people can't see the inherent danger here.

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Kalinda's avatar

The data the people are accessing is not only in that database, it is all over. There is nothing in that IRS database that isn't already in dozens, if not hundreds or thousands, of databases all over. In fact, I would wager IRS is multiple database and has less connected information. For myself, I find it odd that people are oh, so willing to give their bank account to pay their bills, give their yearly income to get a credit card, use their SSN to prove they are who they say they are to countless websites, allow their companies to process W-4s and W-2s online, etc, etc, but concerned about the IRS database. As if that information about every individual is not already out there in countless places. (and you might be fooled into thinking it's "secure" but that MFA is just a way to track you).

The inherent danger is already here. It's in the way people do most everything online, all connected to their "smartphone", tablet or computer under the guise of "convenience" and think their information is magically safe. IMO, based on my experience.

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Johnny-O's avatar

People justifying or brushing these concerns aside seem to be forgetting Medicaid has gone of peoples personal health data....

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daverkb's avatar

Two things:

1) Abuse: like Mexican Cartels buying their way into American Citizenship at the drop of a hate. Five million for them is like five cents to me.

2) Citizenship for sale? Honestly ... that really cheapen the value of being an American. It's like thirty pieces of silver instead of a beyond value treasure of sacred principles.

This whole idea really reads to me like 'how low have we sunk?' It's like a form of national prostitution.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Jeeze, Dave, you don't think Trump, Kash and Bondi know enough to do LEGIT vetting?

What percentage of new citizens in the last 10 years actually have integrated into our ways and traditions? Visit any Blue state to find out.

MANY countries have or have had the same programs citizenship for sale... nothing wrong with bringing in wealthy, VETTED people... a BIG change from MANY tens of millions of parasite scum!

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daverkb's avatar

I don't think in terms of absolute Black Hats and White Hats because we had gotten ourselves so far down a whole into La-La Land that there is no easy clean way out. Many of these people now in power have baggage, some more and some a lot less. That goes without saying. But I also appreciate people who put everything on the line in order to bring about a better outcome for us all however imperfect.

Although we are in early innings, we appear to be getting restructuring, and also ... some real relief and mitigation. While the Trump administration on one hand is not aimed at a true constitutional restoration, not deep down. But on the other hand Trump is a feint in that direction, and more importantly, an agent of normalization across the board and as is more traditionally understood.

If Trump had not won, and had not put the kabash on rampant Woke Globalist insanity the ship of state would have in short shrift rested in the deep, deep blue right next to the Titanic, two wrecks in a pod. Those who said it was the last chance to save ourselves, to save America or any pretense to America in my opinion were wholly right in their views.

So I have mixed feelings, grave doubts about a lot of things. But I don't want to either shoot myself in the foot or throw the baby out with bath water. Why? Because I do not ever again want to be flying on auto-pilot with the automatic writing machine being run by God knows who in the White House hell-bent on killing us all off.

Now, at least we have a chance.

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Contrary to Ordinary's avatar

According to Cybernews, it is estimated that about 75% of government agencies have had a data breach, including the IRS, Treasury, DOJ & HHS. So DOGE is actually on a clean up mission.

On an even bigger scale, the mother of all breaches (so far) is the National Public Data breach in 2024 of 2.9 billion records including ssn’s, credit files, addresses, phone numbers and medical data. I would hazard a guess that those files are a lot better organized and indexed than the government’s. DOGE access is the least of my worries. Maybe they’ll install some world class security systems while they’re at it.

The truth is, any and every database has already been breached, and will be again.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Don't forget the massive OPM data breach ~10 years ago that compromised all the data of everyone individual with a federal security clearance. That is THE most sensitive data held by the U.S. and created a monstrous threat to national security from a social engineering aspect alone. Of course, it was preventable.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Well, keep in mind that both the Dark Web and your corporate American Human Resource department has just as much access to your data. I worked many years in Federal information system "compliance" requirements.

It's all giant waste of money that produces a pile of paperwork and costs companies hundreds of thousands of dollars. To get your cloud software approved for gov't use under FEDRamp starts at $250,000/yr. Not including all the people you have to hire to achieve the government's authority to operate.

Worse, you're paying for compliance, not actual *security.* It is a giant mound of paperwork and a massive gov't money-maker. I suspect that FEDRamp will eventually be scrutinized as well, and that these reforms will implement *true* security measures and counter-measures to better protect Americans' data.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

The five million $ is fine but paid in gold.

No worthless paper that anyone can print.

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

Trump endorsed and just signed another pork-packed continuing resolution. Then he threatened to primary Rep. Thomas Massie, the lone Constitutional Republican who dared to vote against runaway federal government spending. How does Trump’s words and threats to annex Greenland differ from China’s threats to annex Taiwan? I wonder if the issue of securing the borders really isn’t about immigrants but rather about who gets to control and profit from the illicit drug trade.

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char's avatar

Jeff C. Perhaps something to consider. I checked one country, Ecuador. To be a citizen there requires a certain amount of consistent income. Perhaps not difficult to garner million[s] for the gold card, but what assurance will there be after that single purchase? Other countries may have similar 'restrictions'.

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nancylee's avatar

New Zealand certainly does.

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char's avatar

nancylee. Thank you I believe I did know that. Never checked others though.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Very well said.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

"...anyone who can afford a gold card is unlikely to be an unproductive, marxist welfare sinkhole."

Are you SURE?! THE FAT MAN PRITZ'ER comes to mind but he's already here sinking Illinois with Teachers.

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Lori's avatar

Pritzer is a real piece of work.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

POS more like it.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Witchmer not much better , she’s quiet , then attacks … stealthy 🤬

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Juju's avatar

Great example. We can’t be completely free of these kinds of people, but at least we can avoid a flood of millions of them at once.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think limiting it and setting a high bar will make it more competitive and we’ll be able to pick and choose more. But as you said in your other post, I worry about future administrations not adhering to the same standards.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

💯 - as if there is some sort of correlation between money and virtue. More than likely, a reverse correlation. US citizenship should not be for sale.

And don’t even get me started on dual citizenship. I am as opposed to that as I am to bigamy and polygamy, and for the same reason. Pledge allegiance to ONE flag (one spouse, etc.)

If you want to end aspersions of “dual loyalty” then make people choose a side. Same feelings on fighting for another country’s military. It’s somewhat of a grey area, but apparently US citizens are able to volunteer for foreign militaries, as long as the country is an ‘ally’. But I don’t like it one bit. Apparently there are now 20,000 Americans who are fighting for the IDF.

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Chloe Zapata's avatar

Id rather have 5000 rich immigrants than 10 million illegals.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Fatso Prick-ster would not pass vetting.

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Ray Bob's avatar

I get what you're saying, but in my humble opinion. I think wealthy criminals are probably a slightly better class then poor criminals. less likely to commit violent crimes to get money, they already got money they play different games entirely and Trump did say if they do wrong, he'll kick them to the curb and keep their million bucks.

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C. Wilson's avatar

So the "wealthy criminals" who head up human trafickking of women and children AND who make sure their drug distributors (pushers) keep increasing their clientele...but live in your "nice" neighborhood so their appearance makes them OK? THEY are not committing the violent crimes---they are commissioning it. By your definition, then, a fancy call girl spreading an STD is a better class of woman that a street whore? Sir, they are still selling their bodies and have a pimp somewhere who is making money, literally off their backs. I envy that you have led a sheltered life and, sometimes/rarely, I wish I didn't know so much about the underworld.

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Ray Bob's avatar

Wow I think you took my sarcasm a little too seriously

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C. Wilson's avatar

Dealing with big time crime makes a person serious.

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Buddy123's avatar

They are already, and have been here. Whom do you think these laundering criminals actually are? Biden with 22 phony LLC’s, a congress worth millions off salaries under 200k, Pope, hedge fund owners (Soros)? Money from black market sales of US weapons, Zelensky, his circle, any politician “visiting” Ukraine, cartels harbored and protected in blue states, called sanctuaries? Ngo’s funneling money back to Act Blue? Hollywood elites, politicians and cartels combined, funding trafficking, pedophiles and whom knows what else?

Here in California, one of the last things of major concern for everyday survival is Trump’s selling of gold cards.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

They are being vetted .but ....I don't know what that entails. Or how deep they go.

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C. Wilson's avatar

They can pass any background check.

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Lori's avatar

He said in his humble opinion. No need to jump all over him.

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C. Wilson's avatar

If you think that is jumping all over him.....wow

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Lori's avatar

IMHO, you came off harsh.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I read his post differently

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dorothy P slater's avatar

I live in Mexico and can assure you that members of the many cartels operating here could buy 10,000 of those gold cards without breaking a sweat. Of course, our new President - like those before her - would probably pay for them. It is one way to get them out of Mexico legally!! IThey all now wear armani suits instead of their usual garb and maybe that alone will make them look like a better class then poor criminals - of course they do murder a lot of politicians , judges, reporters when they need to - we just had an execution site discovered not all that far from our expat community- lots of kids shoes and toys - what does that remind me of - Maybe we could convince them to murder only the democrats - two birds with one stone as they say- they can kill the Dems for us and we can help the Mexican government can get rid of them.

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Mike Perceval's avatar

You raise some excellent points Dorothy! God bless and keep you!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

LOL!! Yeah right.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Just curious Dorothy Slater.. Ajijic Lake Chapala or San Miguel Allende? Your post likened to common conversation on the lawn among the beautiful white rescued donkeys at Yves De Choulot’s restaurant with interested others… though most expats while living in and around Lake Chapala hated Trump (during his first term) and would side more with the far leftist types like AOC…

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Jeeze, chillax! Those turds would not pass vetting...

...insulting Trump and your other gibberish just make you sound like another hysterical yeasty moron.

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Juju's avatar

And I think they can figure out who the wealthy criminals are quite easily with their extreme background checks, and any involved in things like human trafficking and the like, even slightly, will certainly be denied.

However, while I trust this current administration, I picture this in the hands of the past administration and they WOULD grant citizenship to the wrong kind of evil. My concerns lie in how they will protect this program from the hands of future criminal administrations using this. Still, under an evil administration we are going to get the evil no matter what, so at least this would collect money for the debt it causes.

I’m certain they are looking closely at everything when constructing this program.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes agree, those are my concerns as well. Not so much for now but for the future.

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Patty's avatar

Just look at the “class” of people the last administration gave the Medals of Freedom to. Wicked, millionaire criminals.

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

I'd dare say a traditional wealthy criminal may be better than the vile wealthy criminals in congress as well.

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C. Wilson's avatar

Well, I'll agree with you on that. I almost respect a criminal who doesn't really pretend to be anything else. To see what we have in Congress is sickening. Now we finally know at least.

I say, let Trump be Trump.

But, categorizing criminals as anything but scum - means a victim doesn't matter.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I have similar thoughts and posted my concerns as well.

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Sherry 1's avatar

5 million.

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Shari Ray's avatar

Wow oh WOW… there are some daggers out today in the comment gallery! Maybe it should be WINE TIME for a few of you !

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Mary Sholl's avatar

There will be vetting. Not to mention it will be a lot better than the EB5 program that you never heard of and let in unsavory characters for mostly failed and fraudulent “job creation” programs. And those schemers only had to bring 500,000 which bought a green card. Go look it up.

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Juju's avatar

And, once approved it can be revoked at any time going forward if caught in any criminal activity or becoming a threat to our country in any way.

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GregWA's avatar

Agree, Heather. There was a bit about Trump saying they'd revoke the card from anyone found to be suspicious (or words to that effect). But if I were the bad guys, I'd be grooming some military age males to pass muster as upper level white collar workers and get them embedded in critical areas of US business, industry, etc. Think the Saudis, our good friends!

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Lori's avatar

They are vetting the people and performing the appropriate due diligence on the backgrounds of these people I have heard. But yes, one must be cautious about this.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

They need to vet our Medicaid healthcare system

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

So much fraud

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Lori's avatar

Big time like a huge tidal wave high colonic!

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Kat's avatar

I believe they still must be vetted. No more Hamas loving activist will be given scholarships to progressive universities to wreak havoc on American students and western societies. Joe Biden let em in, now Trump gets to boot em out!!

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carily myers's avatar

During the All In podcast I just watched, the Head of the Commerce Department stated that all applicants are heavly vetted before being allowed to buy the card.

It's not just one person buying a card, they are buying one for their wife, each of their children. It's like having an escape route if your country blows up.

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Steenroid's avatar

Well at least these unsavory characters are paying something and probably won’t be on the dole. Hopefully they will be vetted better than Mex Cucumber administration vetting them.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Some of the wealthiest illegals are on Medicaid here , especially in obstetrics . I have been told that “ we Americans are stupid. “

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JSR's avatar

I felt the same way reading it… next we will all be buying “cards” to have kids…

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AM Schimberg's avatar

MUCH easier to screen thoroughly 1000 applicants than millions.

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Joe's avatar

Absolutely. There is zero correlation between having a lot of disposable income and good moral character. If anything, it skews the other way. Selling our citizenship papers solely on the basis of cash is disgraceful, and dangerous.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The small country of Malta, which is part of the EU, had a similar program where if you invested $1 million, you could get a Maltese/EU passport.

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Jeff S's avatar

I don't mind them paying to enter. I just want a piece of the gate, say, 5%. Deposited directly into my especial off shore account.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

My first thought was, wow, this can’t really be the way our founding fathers envisioned this. I guess they will be vetted or we can hope they will be.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I just don’t trust the government

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Kathy's avatar

Exactly. Drug cartels, five eyes spies, the CIA itself, Mossad, WEF lackeys, progeny of leftist oligarchs , etc. This doesn’t seem like promising college students or average people who could afford this. I guess nothing is perfect, and I do like the money that is raised.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

I have concerns too but I am confident that Trump will ensure vigorous vetting. He knows that the opposition will be loud.

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JC's avatar

This newsletter has turned out to be the best diary/commentary of the events that have happened, from the beginning of Covid to now the second Trump administration, that I’ve ever come across.

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Art's avatar

“DHS announced revoking the temporary “parole” status of more than half a million migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.” I have a story about this line from today’s article.

I overheard a very loud public conversation between two men in January. One guy had just imported his mother-in-law from god-knows-where under Biden’s “immigration parole” program. She arrived last December and by January he was helping her to apply for Medicaid and SNAP (food stamps) because she has Parkinson’s Disease! But of course. She was likely going to end up on Social Security Disability as well. Because abuela tiene no dinero o trabajo. Of course.

That’s your tax dollars at work friends. To top it off the guys having this conversation were in an establishment patronized by an affluent clientele. But why spend your own wealth to take care of your imported family members when the taxpayers are ripe for the plucking?

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Contrary to Ordinary's avatar

Ditto

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

Snowden was RIGHT!! How about a PARDON?

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Jay Horton's avatar

Boom! There it is!

Later Jay

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

https://x.com/America1stLegal/status/1902796020905546048:

I hate to say i toldya so...but...heres even more evidence they were conducting a global conspiracy, using the USAID funds, during the plandemic. They made it real easy to see their machinations leaving a healthy portion of digital bread crumbs.

So not only are they trying to destroy us from within by turning the administrative state against us, they are also coordinating with international agencies/governments to destroy us from within by virtue of forces outside the US.

Ride deep and dig your spurs in...we're in for a bronco-bucking thrill ride.

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Jeff C's avatar

Anyone else see the stories about Daily Wire being in deep financial trouble which is why Jeremy Boreing just stepped down as CEO?

For a supposedly Conservative site, DW sure had a lot of (ahem) unique positions including pushing the vax, advocating the Ukraine war, and promoting Netanyahu's politics (Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles aside).

There's speculation DW was getting USAID money which is why they are suddenly in deep trouble. I don't know if it's true but it would explain a lot of things.

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AnnB's avatar
Mar 22Edited

I started to wonder about this same thing when they had the falling out with Candace Owens. I hadn’t thought about USAID $$$$$, interesting 🤔

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Controlled opposition.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. Pisses me off.

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Jeff C's avatar

Boreing had become increasingly unhinged on X over the last month, getting in screaming matches with random nobodies who disagreed with him (usually about Israel).

In my experience that type of behavior is the telltale sign that someone believes they are losing control of something important.

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NAB's avatar

Boering is the reason I never subscribed to DW. I love Matt and Michael and Andrew Klavan does have some great cultural insight and commentary, but I could not stomach Boering (and I never really liked Shapiro, either). It will be interesting to see what happens with DW. I feel like they've made some big blunders recently (though the impact of MW and his unrelenting attacks on the trans industry cannot be overstated).

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Hey Ryan…tried to open the link and got this message: Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.

Can you resend? Happy Saturday!

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

This one works! Thanks…and yes, I have an account ;).

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Weird I checked again. Opens right up for me. Do you have an Xitter account?

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Sherry 1's avatar

I got same message and it didn’t open up.I have an X acc’t.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Try the other one I sent Nard. It worked

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

True RG

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Patti's avatar

Wow! Crazy to me this is our government.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Norm Eisen and Andrew Weissman openly gloat about their lawfare on Substack. Take down the color revolution subversion agents. The lawfare tables are turning…

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TE's avatar

Two of most hated lawfare agitators out there working nefariously for democrats. Both Weissman and Eisen, as well as Elias and Monaco will soon get whats coming to them. Trump has not forgotten.

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Justin's avatar

Why hasn't Obama had his security clearance revoked?

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Chloe Zapata's avatar

I thought Obama's security clearance WAS revoked?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

They are very happy with their success.

Hopefully they'll get their due...

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I love how this crowd openly talks about how we need a civil war, etc.etc.

Does the anti-gun crowd reeeeeally want to play that game?!

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Kathy's avatar

The globalists want us to fight each other, here and in Europe. They want to see the breakdown of western democracy so they can centralized control with some sort of global government. With CBDC of course .

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Exactly. The same NGOs and oligarchs that were behind the migrant invasion, DEI and trans butchery are behind the fall of the West. This radical-Left violence is only the beginning so they can Build Back Better their New Normal, aka New World Order.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

Do you really believe they are anti gun? Or just others not having them?

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think there are sone of each. A lot of leftist types I know are freaked out by guns. But I’m positive there are others who just want to make sure only certain people can access them.

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Bill Campbell's avatar

go ahead. make my day.

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Lon Guyland's avatar

“Mission creep became mission metastasis.”

Neatly summarizes DC in general

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yup. Then add incompetency...and you got a real witches brew.

Stupidity at scale becomes evil.

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GregWA's avatar

Is there a lawyer in the house? Question for the lawyers: if someone speaking publicly, especially on TV or a streaming source (podcast), calls for violence, have they committed a crime. What is the threshold test?

Suggestion: prosecute every last such instance, using good prosecutorial judgement, no lawfare, no matter which end of the political spectrum it comes from.

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Kat's avatar

I did see Schumer state on PBS they were sending agitators into Red districts to intimidate voters to change the votes to Dems. I believe that is completely illegal, intimidating voters!!

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Sherry 1's avatar

And Crocket is inciting people to blow up Tesla Dealerships as her “Birthday Present” on March 29 - They are calling it Take Down Tesla Day” or something equally stupid. She is a SITTING Congress person!!! Says they have over 300 dealerships TARGETED. Musk needs the National Guard at all of them. This is really incitement to violence and she must be the first arrested so maybe these Dem twits think twice.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

She didn't say anything about violence, though. Adam Conover (of Adam ruins everything fame) has a youtube video with 1.3 million views where he pretty explicitly says spray painting Teslas is noble. He implicitly approves of people torching dealerships as well.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I guess 'hate speech' laws are only used when that 'hate' is against the Left.

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GERALD WILLIAMS's avatar

These Tesla/Musk Terrorists need to do major prison time.

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C. Wilson's avatar

Having been personally involved in fighting the so-called "drug wars" years ago, I can tell you that $5million is chump changed to the big time druggies. They could not launder the money fast enough 50 years ago and it is a bigger problem now for them than then. Look around your town for all the businesses that don't make sense. Bingo. There has NEVER been a real drug war. Take THAT statement to the bank.

So, I hope that someone is really on the job with vetting these $5M people. The statement "And needless to say, anyone who can afford a gold card is unlikely to be an unproductive, marxist welfare sinkhole" is so false as to be laughable. I'd say that a LOT of people with that kiind of walking around money, while not marxist welfare sinkholes, are the type of capitalists we do not need.....The big time drug lords.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if it were a grift? Take their money, give them a golden ticket, and then revoke it the minute an infraction occurs…Oops! Our bad! Still working on those vetting processes…Hasta la vista, baby!

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Juju's avatar
Mar 22Edited

Oh funny!!! Maybe they WILL do that 🤣🤣

Sorry not sorry, thank you for the financial donation to better the country you meant to harm.

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

All those restaurants, nail salons and such that stay in business without anywhere near the customers it would take to keep them in business?

Yes, lots of opportunity for people with ill gotten funds to come in if the vetting isn't done VERY carefully.

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C. Wilson's avatar

the drug cartels from all areas have not been able to launder money fast enough. I found this out personally in the 1970s. There are huge warehouses and homes stacked with money waiting to be laundered. If you have a source, it is the easiest thing in the world to do. But, it’s like the Hotel California….once you check in you can never check out. People want drugs- for whatever reason. Yes it ruins lives, but we cannot save people from themselves. Even - alcohol. To the “bosses” it’s just business.

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C. Wilson's avatar

And they will pass the vetting. They are clean as the fresh fallen snow on the surface. The mud is hidden beneath where it will be seen or found. It is a fantastic optic for Trump. I don't object to it, but I know what is going on. People with that kind of wealth have been living in this country forever. Take a look at Miami. If you have $5m walking around money, you can come here and be welcome. And, they pay plenty of taxes already. Again, it is all part of the optic. He's playing 5d chess.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

“And He said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.” Luke‬ ‭11‬:‭46‬

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Domestic terrorist should be sent straight to Guantanamo prison.

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George Burnet's avatar

Still have fond memories of Rush: "Club Gitmo - your tropical retreat from the stress of Jihad!"

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Lori's avatar

This is why I have my 2nd amendment friend (several actually) at the ready if needed to protect myself or family. It will be them , not me or mine.

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Sam's avatar

Biden called the J-6ers domestic terrorists. Should they have been sent to Gitmo? Wars abroad always come home to target Americans. Be careful what you wish for.

And I hope you meant after they had a trial? Or should they get stripped of due process too?

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CaplT's avatar

Laws need to take into account the political pendulum. Not just what is good for those in power now. Eventually the pendulum swings back and conservatives could be rounded up and sent to “camps.”

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

That's true but the left doesn't do payback scenarios, they see no legal restraints so saying "could be rounded up", that ship has already sailed. It's conservative who, correctly, do observe legal restraints. A change of venue is a legal recourse that should be utilized.

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Sam's avatar

Bingo. That’s the point I tried to make about wars coming home.

We have laws already to take care of those destroying Teslas as well as most crimes and adding on domestic terrorism to them will hurt everyone.

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Carolyn's avatar

Ou seemed to have skipped over the important part..Biden called them

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I'm not sure it would have been any worse than how they, Jan 6ers, were treated here; no due process in DC, no due process in Gitmo, which is best? In Gitmo the trials could be in an unbiased way as opposed to jury trials in blue areas where objective, honest juries are difficult to find. The DC trials were rigged before they started.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

He may have called them that, but none of them met the definition of terrorists, and not even the department of injustice under Biden was able to twist the law to try any of them under the definition of domestic terror.

I read that "domestic terror" involves actions that involve significant risk of death (or that cause death) that are designed to influence others actions via fear.

The administration and the press went with "insurrection" for the most part. Note they don't use that term anymore except in very limited and carefully crafted language that doesn't slander any particular person. They use the terms "attack" and "riot".

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Kathy's avatar

Ooo! That might slow them down!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

It's not going to happen to US citizens. Considering how those kind of precedents can turn around and bite one in the butt in later administrations, it's probably best left that way.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Why does the location make a difference? Gitmo is a military prison, if anyone is declared a terrorist, domestic or otherwise, a military prison is where they belong. With that said, you are probably right because keeping them in their local communities gives them better odds of getting off with little or no penalty. And the DOJ can claim they tried.

It's the same ol song and dance, and Americans are too busy to be bothered with it. We get the government we deserve. 🎭

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I guess it's possible, since it is a US prison on US soil. I don't know it's official designation. If it is a officially a standard federal prison, then yes, they could be sent there. I was thinking more in terms of the joke going around to send them to the prison in El Salvador.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Hahaha, that would be a good way to freak them out. Load them on a C-130 for Gitmo but tell them they are going to El Salvador, and leave the ramp open. Maybe some would take the leap .....

🪂🪂🪂🪂🪂🪂🪂🪂🪂🪂🪂

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Jamison's avatar

Fiat veritas ruat caelum.

“Let justice be done, though the heavens fall”.

Had to look it up!

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NAB's avatar

I asked my son, who for some reason, excels at Latin.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Same. I love it

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Peace's avatar

Haha! I just assumed it meant FA, FO.

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Jamison's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Tom Haviland's avatar

Jeff, things are still moving along on the Covid virus and "vaccine" front as well. A scientific team that I am in contact with are uncovering the nefarious "Open Reading Frames" that were inserted into BOTH the SARS-CoV-2 virus AND the mRNA vaccines to make them replicate faster, evade the human immune system, and worst of all promote clotting in the blood.

I invite your readers to check out Episodes 01 - 06 of "An Unholy Triad: The Birth of a Plague" on Rumble at: https://rumble.com/c/puremediaaustralia

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LMWC's avatar

My son’s 46 year old classmate just passed away from a rare turbo cancer discovered in January. He had been on Ozempic for his A1C levels and also got the jabs back in 2021. That this poison is being still used and covered up makes my blood boil. C left behind two young sons.

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Kathy's avatar

Spread the word to anyone who will listen that combining ivermectin and fenbendazole with standard cancer treatments greatly improves the chance of survival from turbo cancer. Check out the Substack of Canadian oncologist William Makis Md. It’s up to us to spread the word, since no oncologist in this country is going to suggest the use of off label off patent drugs, especially if they do work. Big Pharma and everyone they own does not want to see this happening.

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Lori's avatar

And Dr. Paul Marik's Cancer book as well. Can find on Amazon or at FLCCC aka IMA. Great Post Kathy!

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

LMWC it’s so sad. I’m praying my son and family won’t fall to the same fate as they are brainwashed.

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Tom Haviland's avatar

I am sorry to hear that. The truth WILL come out. It's inescapable. -Tom Haviland (Creator of 2022, 2023, and 2024 "Worldwide Embalmer Blood Clot Surveys," "2024 Cath Lab Worker Blood Clot Survey," and "2024 People's Blood Clot Survey")

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AM Schimberg's avatar

I'm 46 as well, and I just heard this past week that a classmate, a a wife and mom, died in her sleep. Needlessly to say, this used to be a much less common occurrence.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s so sad 😞 A friend of a friend just passed away from a sudden and unexpected heart attack at 46 too 😕

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Lori's avatar

turbo cancer from the jab in young people, no doubt.

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Patti's avatar

I just found out another healthcare friend on hospice. She is in her 40’s. Morbidly I should have kept track but I think I’m at about 15 people I personally know that have died or have been treated with cancer since 2021

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Lori's avatar

some of us have known this since the beginning and paid dearly for speaking up and out. Examples are Drs. Ryan Cole, Paul Marik, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Kory, Dr. Jackie Stone and the list goes on. Check out VSRF substack by Steve Kirsch and FLCCC aka IMA for weekly zoom meeting at 7pm EST all about this insidiousness and how these docs are fighting back for all of us.

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Tom Haviland's avatar

I agree with you. I have been on Steve's VSRF show a couple of times, and I admire his work and dedication greatly. I'll be going to Shannon Joy's "Wellness Summit" next weekend where I will finally get to meet Dr. Pierre Kory in person so I can shake his hand. Dr. Ryan Cole and I have already met through our mutual friend, embalmer Richard Hirschman. And Dr. Peter McCullough and I communicate through email. Dr. McCullough has been gracious enough to put me in touch with several show hosts so that I can go on their podcasts to talk about the results of my blood clot surveys. We are all ONE BIG TEAM, and we are working as hard as we can to get these rotten Covid mRNA jabs off the shelves.

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Lori's avatar

Tom, wow, so elated to hear you are on the "inside" with these heroes. All of them I bow down before. Mr. Hirschman is a sacred gem as well. I pray very steadfastly that your blood clots will disappear and never be a worry ever again. Yes, get that poison and all other mRNA jabs like the AI jab forthcoming off the shelves. You are a warrior! Thank you for fighting so hard during your own challenges. Blessings always.

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Tom Haviland's avatar

Lori, just to be clear, I have no blood clots myself. I was fired after 36 years of working in and with the US Air Force in Oct 2021 for refusing to obey Biden's vaccine mandate, and because I sent an email response to an Air Force 3-star general telling him that "he should be ashamed of himself" for trying to guilt us into taking an experimental jab. By the way, I sent a "cc" copy of that email to all 30,000 people who work at Wright-Patterson AFB, OH that same day. And I don't regret my decision one bit.

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Lori's avatar

Oh thank goodness you do not have clots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yahoo, Hurrah! Love what you did as that took ultimate guts, brass you know what, and moral fortitude. I did something similar when I worked for USDA but that was before Covid. I extend my heartfelt appreciation and thanks to you; another hero in our midst!

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Mcgeehee's avatar

Retired USAF 1N0xx here (in 2001). I have to hand it to you; you must have the balls of DJT … plus some. I was in the same boat, I also refused, and I thought about writing to our 3-star at DIA, my current employer. In the end, I didn’t think it would help get my religious exemption approved — which I was waiting on pins and needles over. They never approved or denied any exemption (estimated qty 2000). They just sat on all of them until the whole thing finally blew over when Biden declared an end to the pandemic.

The cc to all WPAFB just blows me away.

I’d love to see it.

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Lisa's avatar
Mar 22Edited

Very interesting show about autism this past Thursday. I only watched until Dr. Hazan was done but will finish it.

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Lori's avatar

Parents have been screaming about this forever and they were just shut down and so many children suffer and go on to suffer. I tell everyone I can, don't get jabbed and don't jab your babies. Turtles All The Way Down opened my eyes to the evils and non-efficacy on all the jabs since polio. Best 500 page book I ever read.

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Lisa's avatar
Mar 22Edited

I was very impressed by the mother who opened the show. Can you imagine if fecal transplants would resolve autism? No wonder they cost so much. Or, maybe that's why they cost so much.

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Lori's avatar

Yes, she is a fierce warrior and will open many eyes. That episode last week had an excellent panel and in depth subject matter-one of the best episodes yet imho! Fecal transplants are amazing and so helpful to many. Also done in vet med for pups with parvo and other GI issues in adult pets.

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Thank u Mr. Haviland 🙌🏼

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