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Jeff Childers's avatar

ERRATA:

— "Process of Wales" in heading fixed

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Donna Sudbrook's avatar

Wish someone could tell the Princess of Wales to call Dr. Paul Marik, Norfolk, Virginia. His treatment of sepsis has a 1 % mortality rate compared to 30-50% mortality with regular hospital treatments. https://www.faim.org/interview-with-dr-paul-marik-on-vitamin-c-protocol-for-sepsis

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Bob K's avatar

Yes!

SEPSIS -- I get ANGRY every time I see the word -- because the "medical establishment" is so adamant to NOT use cheap and highly effective treatments for SEPSIS, too -- and, because they took down the guy who invented a recent vastly better solution, Dr. Paul Marik. Over several months, for patients in the intensive care unit (ICU) diagnosed with advanced sepsis and septic shock, Marik used his treatment plan on 47 patients -- and *NONE* of them died of sepsis! (Compare to a typical sepsis death rate of 40%.)

https://www.faim.org/vitamin-c-and-sepsis-the-genie-is-now-out-of-the-bottle

Infection problem? Use lots of vitamin C. Guaranteed -- *but*, you must use enough to get the job done, that is, "tons" of it ... like on the order of 350 mg - 1200 mg Vitamin C per kg body weight per day (350-1200 mg./kg./day) ... usually via intravenous needle.

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Gabriella's avatar

Didn’t Dr. Marik get recognized for or get a paper published regarding his protocol finally a year ago or two? Does anyone know where to find this? I would love to have a copy to provide a hospital if ever a loved one or myself should be hospitalized. I’m keeping a paper copy of this article too. Thank you, Donna and Bob.♥️

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Donna Sudbrook's avatar

https://covid19criticalcare.com/protocol/sepsis-care/ Sorry ... this is kind of a hasty recall .... but it was the HAT protocol in 2016/2017 ... used at a couple hospitals in the Norfolk area ..... read somewhere in 2020 that it was used in 10% of U.S. hospitals for sepsis .... wondering how to figure out which hospitals ..... then in 2020 HAT was modified to MATH+ for hospitalized covid.... very effective if started within 6 hours of arrival at emergency room with shortness of breath.....

now back on flccc.net website ...... I see it is called MHAT .... they added Melatonin .... it is basically IV Vitamin C plus some other things .... which come to find out from www.orthomolecular.org articles Select "Library", select "News Releases" .... the use of high doses of vitamin c , IV vitamin c and liposomal vitamin c have huge successes going back decades ..... Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University, Dr. Frederick Klenner, Dr. Robert Cathcart, etc, etc, etc.

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Donna Sudbrook's avatar

interesting that trials are created to diminish disparage new advances in medicine..... http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v17n08.shtml

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, March 7, 2021

The VICTAS Trial: Designed to Fail

by Michael Passwater

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Leslie's avatar

MRNA is in you food do this ASAP..... t.co/qmiCWZ8aCe

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Br's avatar

This is related. First some testimonies: https://x.com/naturallyftw/status/1682416403842842624?s=61&t=NsBh1V7s-VpPju50QNix8Q

Then this subsequent paper that erroneously states a completely false conclusion that Marik’s protocol doesn’t work. Here’s a video going into the false conclusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfnIkDwrjw8 (take down starts after about the 7 minute mark or so)

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

A friend's sister was near death from sepsis and was saved by the ozone IV treatment.

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Gina C's avatar

I believe none of the royals are jabbed despite the weird Will and Kate video urging people to get covid jabbed. Kate was hospitalized with extreme morning sickness with at least one of her pregnancies (hyperemesis gravidarum) so she had issues before - if in fact it's her stomach now. The queen retained a homeopath so was into alt treatments living to a ripe old age.

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LW's avatar

2/5/2024 Sasha on UK Royal Family illnesses, what’s really going on. VERY interesting including other comments posted

https://substack.com/@sashalatypova/note/c-48927353

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Amy's avatar

Those comments are fascinating!

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Ellen's avatar

Maybe it’s a blessing not having servants…..

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Based Florida Man's avatar

My wife says it would be cool to have another wife. LOL

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

And the real pity is that, since Obergefell v. Hodges (2015) she can.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I remain unpersuaded. Tell you what, I'll ask my assistant to prepare me a report and brief me later. 🤡

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Jade Dixon's avatar

What worries me is that if they weren't jabbed then maybe even the elites underestimated the dangers of shedding?

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Gina C's avatar

In my opinion, there are elites who are making life changing decisions for everyone (let's call them parasites) and they absolutely know about shedding but claim it is conspiracy. Then there are the shills who maybe (or don't) know and they trust and parrot the former. These people are likely all about any and all shots/ vaxx/ jabs just because they don't know there's more to the story.

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Donna Sudbrook's avatar

ahh interesting .... glad to know they know about homeopath .... crazy how the $1 trillion a year profit pharmaceutical monopoly controls so much .... but a certain number of people know the truth. Can't wait for the monopoly to be broken up.

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Diane Baum's avatar

homeopathy is popular and almost mainstream in the UK

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Donna Sudbrook's avatar

No way. Crazy .... it is like the U.S. is the last to know ..... or last to be allowed to know. Like hearing that 1000 doctors in Japan are using the Riordan (Wichita, Kansas) Protocol for cancer which includes iv vitamin c ... and that was as of an interview in Sept 2020.

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Jan's avatar

I have a hard time believing any of the world leaders got the jabs saline at best or lied.

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HFO (thepixieminx)'s avatar

or is the princess’ “abdominal surgery” actually an abortion (possibly due to the fetus being affected, possibly from the jabs or shedding)……

and Jeff, agree totally, I too have been having conversations recently with friends and family who finally realise they were fooled and are now VERY concerned about their future health

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I'd comment on your allusion to the "fake jabs for the elite" conspiracy theory. It’s popular among us conspriacists, and could be partially true. Consider these (IMO) valid propositions:

When the jabs were new, they were VERY heavily promoted, and even mandated. Part of this promotion including famous people taking a shot or at least CLAIMING TO.

(IMO) it is not likely that the jabs are a deliberately engineered poison, or that the Elite were taking saline shots or otherwise not taking the same doses as the general public.

Finally, and most importantly, the so-called Elite is not magically shielded from the same weaknesses as the common people, e.g. that they will buy in to propaganda from official sources.

The best evidence that the Elite took a lot of mRNA jabs is precisely the number of incidents of illness or odd deaths among them. For example, CA Gov. Newsom’s very odd report of a medical problem that led to his cancelling a plan to visit a climate event in 2022 (?) -- widely speculated as a vaccine reaction.

Folks, it’s not as if the “Elite” are smarter than us. They are wealthier and well-connected yes, but they are still human beings susceptible to the same psychological pressures as the sheep are. In fact they are more at risk of falling into possibly erroneous beliefs due to groupthink. In sum, they aren’t immune to making bad decisions, possibly ones that will injure or kill them.

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aj's avatar

Kate probably had the 'unmentionable' lady problems that come with having many children in a short time, pelvic organ collapse.

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Elaine H's avatar

Absolutely!! And Dr Peter McCullough protocol for those who took the vaccine.

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Br's avatar

This is related. First some testimonies: https://x.com/naturallyftw/status/1682416403842842624?s=61&t=NsBh1V7s-VpPju50QNix8Q

Then this subsequent paper that erroneously states a completely false conclusion that Marik’s protocol doesn’t work. Here’s a video going into the false conclusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfnIkDwrjw8 (take down starts after about the 7 minute mark or so)

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Susan W's avatar

Though I do not care one whit for the current King (loved his Mum!), I would be very sad if what has been said about Princess Kate is true. I like her quite a lot and think she is a fine lady and a good mother and would be a great Queen. I was quite concerned when the announcement of her "procedure"was made because I could not think of anything that would require such a long hospitalization, especially these days when they boot you are the door asap. I speculated gallbladder surgery - elective but still a big deal post-op. But this extensive recuperation is worrisome. I wish her all the best. The Palace could end all this simply by either having her make an appearance or at least an announcement. :-(

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Anna T's avatar

"One wonders though whether they were all vaccinated at the same time from the same batch. I’m just asking; don’t cancel me."

Would never cancel you, Mr. C! I was wondering the same myself. Don't forget Fergie with the BC and skin cancer. :(

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Amy's avatar

It's curious that Harry decided to come back now and not his father's coronation. And Kate is out of the picture until Easter? What on Earth?

I don't feel badly about engaging in royal gossip/speculation. At Monticello Thomas Jefferson had an entire section of his home library devoted to, essentially "royal gossip."

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LW's avatar

Harry is repulsive and became a big vax pusher here in the US.

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Gina C's avatar

And he's involved with the globalist Aspen Institute. On the outside they sound altruistic but in actual fact, they are not our friends.

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Concerned mom's avatar

THE ENTIRE "ROYAL" family are lizards! "Prince" Philip did say that when he died he'd come back as a virus and kill thousands... The "queen" was accused of taking orphans from a Canadian monastery/home and they were never seen again...May God have pity on them all, but neither Philip nor the "queen" are missed. If it wasn't cuz the little ones are so cute and innocent, we would not care for them either. Look at how Harry and William have grown. All cut from the same cloth unfortunately! Turn your sights on what's actually God-honoring, and do not be deceived by impostors...

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aj's avatar

While he still lived in the UK, he appeared in a short news clip with a couple other people, including Elton John, saying everyone would need to carry health ID and know their HIV status.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Harry isn’t to be trusted; will he be recording every conversation?

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MaryAnn's avatar

To sell to the highest bidding publisher? Money, money, money!

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aj's avatar

I suspect they won't let him in now without being swept for devices.

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sandy's avatar

Kate and illiam told people to take thei jab and not to listen to "misinformation."

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aj's avatar

look up pelvic organ collapse/prolapse, it is common after having babies. And it requires a long convalescence, being catheterized, maybe surgical drains. I think going back to work in 2 months is pushing it. These surgeries bruise your organs, which resolves VERY slowly. It can be a year before she feels like her old self. And I speak from experience. She can't make an appearance wearing a bag of urine on her leg.

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WIMomof3's avatar

I was thinking maybe a hysterectomy… and maybe with complications? The definitive end to the royal lineage from that branch of the family tree would be something to keep under wraps.

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aj's avatar

think beyond a hysterectomy......https://www.verywellhealth.com/pelvic-organ-prolapse-7485590

they don't want to talk about it, and she wants medical privacy. I think they had already decided against further children.

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Susan W's avatar

Possible but I think she’s a little young for that - unless there were some complications with her last birth.

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aj's avatar

I had it done 2 years younger than she is now, I had no complications during pregnancy or delivery. We don't get guarantees our experiences will be 'average'.

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Susan W's avatar

I guess not. Sorry for your troubles.

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aj's avatar

weird coincidence that I was also very thin then and had the same vomiting throughout pregnancy like she did

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Media Luna's avatar

Thank you for your delightful sense of humor. I wouldn’t miss any of your posts!

… a curiosity fact: the word “Dios” (vaya con Dios) does not take a written accent (tilde). Although the word “adiós” (meaning basically the same as “vaya con Dios”) does take a written accent.

It has a logic within the Spanish rules of accentuation (too long to explain) and within those rules it makes sense.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Found another errata in the heading - surely that's the Queen of England. It's as if Elizabeth has risen from the grave. I mean, just look at that picture of h'er, all fancied up. That's a queen, by Job! The Queen Mum if I ever seen h'er!! Charles, Charlene, who's to say what's what these days. I've only got me eyes ta trust.

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Susan W's avatar

Funny ... but I have to honestly say that as he aged and became more frail, my dad looked exactly like his mother. We used to say, just put a wig on him and he'd pass for grandma! LOL

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Debra's avatar

The king lives such a hard and abusive life. No wonder he has aged so badly. (man, I need a sarcasm button)

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Freedom Fox's avatar

(S)He's always looked weird. Abnormal features, those freakish ears the most pronounced oddity. Like a Habsburg Jaw.

www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/distinctive-habsburg-jaw-was-likely-result-royal-familys-inbreeding-180973688

Royal families do that inbreeding thing, the whole eugenics "our blood is better than all others" thing. Is why they had him slum with Diana. If he procreated with another full-blooded royal the kids woulda been circus freaks. When her baby factory role was done she was disposable. Fact.

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Concerned mom's avatar

AND BOTH ARE HARD TO LOOK AT!!!

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Valerie's avatar

But that typo made me laugh out loud, don’t change it!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Just a reminder: The Queen of England went from standing up to greet the new prime minister to death in two days. I'd call that sudden death, and it was at a time when boosters were being pushed. Prince Phillip went downhill with a heart condition rather soon after the original "vaccines" came out.

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Kim Goodwin's avatar

I have noticed in my circle that those friends/associates who were vocal about vaccines and touted how many boosters they received, are now silent. They used to engage and defend their position, pontificating about "The Science". Now they scurry away and don't engage in the conversations. I believe they know they were duped. However, they cannot bring themselves to verbally acknowledge it. It must be hard having to walk around knowing you are potentially a "ticking time bomb". I thank God for the wisdom and discernment that told me not to take the jab. Something inside me just said "no bueno".

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LuAnne's avatar

Yep. I had to endure seeing several of my fb friends, and even by some family members "I got my vaccine" posts & badges. Some posted rants about how selfish the unvaccinated were. One fb friend posted, "Get your damn shots!". I don't hear a peep out of them now about anything covid jab related. Complete silence. Even now, no one seems to be connecting the dots when some of these same people are now posting their health issues. One has been hospitalized a few times for lung & blood clots for which they claim their doctors are baffled as to the cause. Another had a massive stroke at a fairly young age and a year later, still rehabbing from it. Two friends died last year from turbo cancer (died within 2-3 months of diagnosis). Another friend's skin cancer issue has resurfaced with a vengeance. I could go on & on. Occasionally, I'll post a jab study but it will get zero comments or likes.

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Fred's avatar

When, ever, in our entire lives, were we encouraged to broadcast our private medical information? Those gleeful “I got mine” posts turned my stomach, and should have been a huuge clue that the whole mess was a psyop.

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LuAnne's avatar

Lol. I've seen a few posts from fb friends bragging about getting their flu shot, shingles shot, and pneumonia shot all at once.

It takes every ounce of my being from asking them, "what in the hell are you thinking?".

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STH's avatar

Oh I still speak up. If they’re gonna preach it, they have just opened themselves up to an alternative opinion. I keep a running list on my phone of family, friends, fb friends, neighbors and acquaintances of likely Covid vax injuries & deaths. It’s easy to forget. My tally is up to 30 deaths and 43 cancers (about half are turbo). I also tally all the jabbed who caught Covid vs the unjabbed who caught Covid & how many times. The jabbed keep getting repeat bouts of Covid. Whereas my unjabbed friends have mostly had it once or twice max.

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space's avatar

Sad about your tally, I suspect many of us have a similar list. I'm un-v'd ER nurse and had it twice, two years apart, and both were relatively mild (I'm in my 60s). I have vaxxed ER coworkers who have had it multiple times. If they *do* talk about it, they say "thank goodness I had my boosters, it could have been worse" <eyeroll> but most of them aren't getting boosters any more. Ask them why not, and they avert their gaze, and mumble something or other. They KNOW.

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FGB3's avatar

Has does one know they have had Covid twice? How does one distinguish it from influenza? (isn't that "test" for Covid unreliable - i.e. was never created for that purpose?). PLUS cases of the flu just about vanished during the "pandemic".

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Jan's avatar

My tally, in a medium size midwestern town, is similar. Only counting first degree connections and verified secondary....very SAD. My brother died of turbo cancer in August and his widow, for whom he took his three jabs (after having natural immunity), dropped dead suddenly Christmas eve. Two people who afforded the very best "healthcare" and followed "mitigations" to the tee, both dead.

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Bingham22's avatar

I am so sorry for your loss. My young sister-in law (age 40) has turbo stage 4 breast cancer. It went from stage 1-4 in one month. My brother is in complete denial. I am also losing my Dad to stage 4 brain and lung cancer. Lost my Grandpa last year, his was so turbo that he was gone in a month after diagnosis, it shattered his spine. Lost a brother-in law last year to suspiciously turbo cancer as well, but my Sister says he wasn’t vaccinated. If he wasn’t, then his cancer was the most vicious, agonizing, and aggressive thing I have ever seen. It was not normal.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m so sorry 😞 It’s been horrendous for so many 😞

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PJ's avatar

Unvaxxed here & only had it once in 2021. And I never stayed home even during the lockdown 🤪

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FGB3's avatar

Unvaxxed here & never had it once ever. And I never stayed home even during the lockdown.

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IR's avatar

As if it’s some sort of achievement to take all these shots together lol

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

It serves to obscure which jab killed or damaged them. Was it the flu shot or the c-19, or the RSV? No way to tell so no report to be made. Clever and evil.

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fuzzi's avatar

They're NOT thinking, that's why they're getting jabbed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes and the “Team Pfizer” and “Team Moderna” hashtag posts 🙄🙄🙄

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Elaine Russky's avatar

That made me feel a little dizzy. Or perhaps it's nausea.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It certainly is enough to induce a feeling of nausea!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

These are recent posts? As in, how can you not yet know? (answer: because I was too busy reading FB to think about questioning what I was told)

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cat's avatar

During the post-lockdown period, was walking by a MJ store in my Blue state and saw sign posted on door that said something like "We do not care if you are vaccinated or not. We do not violate HIPAA by requiring you to provide proof or info." I wish other places had been so bold as to go against the Narrative flow...

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Debra's avatar

Never forget "they" let the pot shops, alchohol stores, and cigarette stores remain open while they closed down the churches.

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korigon's avatar

Recently I saw someone commenting on some post that they had to leave those stores open because people would go into withdrawals and it would overwhelm the hospitals. I couldn't believe that was even a serious comment.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

That's excellent. Only thing is that the privacy protections of HIPPA had nothing to do with this. The protections we all had -- and that all business should have honored -- come from the A.D.A. and the U.S. Civil Rights Act.

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Fred's avatar

But everyone could understand a HIPPA violation since it’s been hammered by healthcare and the media.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Good for them!

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Ellen's avatar

what's a MJ store? I love that sign.

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Mister Nobody's avatar

Mary Jane. Jazz Cabbage. The Devil's Lettuce. IOW, Cannabis. (Can I say that word here without getting deleted?) ;-)

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Debra's avatar

Sure! MARIJUANA!! It's legal in some form in 40 states in the country now and a huge tax raker for the government! Right up there with alchohol and cigarettes!! Remember, it was legal until the 1940's but the black and brown people were using it too much so the white government criminalized it and it was totally racist based. At least with Covid we all got screwed on a non-race base.

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

medical HIPAA was killed as were informed consent. People must demand and attack lack of privacy and lack of informed consent.

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Vonu's avatar

It is a spinoff of the wearing of an "I voted" sticker.

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Fred's avatar

Hate those too, usually displayed by a liberal.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

That's the truth. They peacock every one of their "virtuous" acts.

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Vonu's avatar

Where did you get that statistic from?

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Fred's avatar

Sorry - re read the thread and don’t find that I posted a statistic. Please correct me if I’m wrong! 😁

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Pelicanus's avatar

Right Fred? In my whole life the only people I can recall publicizing their heath treatments were old. Really old. And not old people with things going on in their lives. Just grouchy self-pitying old people.

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Carrie's avatar

Exactly… early in 2020 when travel was deemed a covid sin, I learned not to share personal details with any acquaintance or work colleague. Thank God, because when the “vax” came out I had already conditioned myself not to share my personal information, not even with extended family. If someone asked, I just said I prefer to keep that health information private. I’m a surgeon, and know many fellow physicians who reluctantly got it due to peer pressure (of course too many health professionals gleefully took it and bullied others). I wonder how many people of all walks of life could have avoided it by just keeping private information private.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

How can you tell if a person is vaxxed? Simple, they'll tell you.

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Fred's avatar

👍🏻🙋‍♀️

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Transcriber B's avatar

1,000%

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Until you die…then crickets. Please respect the privacy of the family. No broadcast of medical info there. So SADs.

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Fred's avatar

💯! And worst for me, lies and deceptions. 🤬

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Fred's avatar

Haven’t heard of it, but sending ❤️ and 🙏🏻! Stay strong! 🙆‍♀️

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Thank you. Not sure how it got started. Search for the ‘No Contact with Parents’ and be alert, please share also.

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Robin Landry's avatar

Cancer is raging through my friends like a wild fire. Skin, blood, stomach, and few are making the connection. I am so sad.

Heart problems are the new normal my friends say because of our age(60s). I point out that I’m the same age, but their eyes glaze over.

I can’t imagine waking up to a choice I could have made and shudder. My heart goes out to people who made the wrong choice.

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J Walker's avatar

Robin, I love how you phrased your response, "I can't imagine waking up to a choice I could have made and shudder." My daughter, who is immune compromised, took the jabs and boosters due to high pressure from her employer, a University. We argued about it and I finally said, "your employer DOES NOT have the right to tell you what to inject into your body." She was more afraid of losing her job than her life. I have been sick over it ever since.

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Patti F's avatar

My daughter took it because she was SO afraid she wouldn't be able to go into restaurants, see her friends, etc. She took the first 2 and no more but it still terrifies me what she's done to her body simply because peer pressure made her do it.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

She must be young? I can remember way, way back in the dim past when I was young, and nearly all my decisions were made by what others would think. As you get older, you usually don't take that into consideration. I hope the painful memory of youthful conformity doesn't cause nightmares for any of us.

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Patti F's avatar

Yes. She was fresh out of college and living on her own for the first time, just outside of NYC. :(

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Ddm's avatar

Both my kids took it because of their liberal media convincing them they were horrible people if they didn't. My SILs mother passed away from a stroke blood clot in brain a month after my daughter's wedding. I firmly believe it was the shot and would bet my last paycheck she had just gotten that 1st booster. But we are not allowed to discuss it. I have now realized that even though it's a taboo topic my daughter is quite paranoid about her health. Several really expensive trips to the urgent care. So I have learned not to bring up all the new data as it's really stressing her out. She is not getting anymore shots. Now I just need to figure out the childhood vax issue discussion . Cause my 1st attempt did not go well. My son is a bit more open to discussion and he has not taken anymore either. But his significant other works in healthcare at the university of WA. So they all just line up to get all the shots. So far she has been fine but I really worry about her.

But what I dont get is why people don't get angrier on the cause of deaths. I told my kids that if I die suddenly and there is any shed of doubt it was pharma related, I want them to fight like hell to know the reason and seek retribution.

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Transcriber B's avatar

I think a lot of people are wildfire angry about it, we just don't hear about it as much as we might because of the censorship and shadow-banning.

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

I’m with you. Good luck!

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Fred's avatar

Please shot them the data! In healthcare too, and researching for a soon to be born GD, I rapidly - you

could even say turbo - went from pro to anti to HE-_ NO! Maybe a Dt at age 7 because tetanus is ubiquitous and our low rates of disease are likely due to the mass immunization. That, and maybe rubella for female entering childbearing years if titres are negative. We’ll see…

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Ddm's avatar

I need to start collecting a good repository of this data. I had the same turbo mind change as you. She did commit that she would read should she get pregnant. But it's touchy subject, because you know I only listen to conspiracy theories and fake news. Uh yea right....

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Tetanus vax is just as useless as the rest of the vaxes. Tetanus is not contagious so there's no herd immunity nor is it really that easy to contract with proper wound care, IF that ever occurs. And taking a tetanus vax AFTER the fact does no good because of the time it takes for your body to produce antibodies to it. Please mark tetanus off your list, too. There are NO "good" vaccines. I just watched a video this morning of a woman in NY, who was a dancer, say she took a tetanus shot because she cut her finger. Now, she's got MS and is half numb from the waist down. (I followed a link to a substack I don't normally read - still looking for that link.)

Dr Stillwagon has done a rundown on most childhood vaccines and their pitfalls. Here's the one about Tetanus.

https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/the-silent-killers-a0c

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Datagal's avatar

Ha ha- I like “turbo anti- vax”.

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Fred's avatar

Send, not shot! Hahaha!

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

A good, quick read with readily-accessible graphs and study links is "Vax/Un-Vax" by Children's Health Defense. For the c-19 there is "Neither Safe Nor Effective" by Dr. Colleen Huber. Perhaps, since they are in healthcare you could present one or both and ask for their opinions. My experience indicates a direct presentation often yields extreme resistance or dismissal.

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Transcriber B's avatar

So sorry.

My whole family, just about.

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SteelJ's avatar

Heart goes out? Not me, those people who voluntarily CHOSE the jab I consider my enemies. My heart goes out to those coerced to keep their jobs, and kids whose parents poisoned them, though.

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cltwilson1's avatar

I know those emotions are just knee-jerk reflexes, but being Christians, we are better than that. We always need to look for an opportunity to forgive those who have sinned.

I pray you do too.

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SteelJ's avatar

They aren't knee-jerk responses, I've thought about it a lot. The reason societies disintegrate and historically people mostly have lived in shitholes ruled by tyrants is because most people think very highly of those tyrants. I blame the masses, who are such fools. As a Christian, I know you are told to forgive. I believe in God, though not any particular religion, and my God-given brain tells me I better hate and fight against those who wish to destroy me and my family. It's called the self-preservation instinct, and God provided it for a good reason. Re Christianity though, since most need a dogma to follow, it's been the best thing to happen to humanity in its history, and its decline explains a lot, maybe most, of our predicament. A revival would be wonderful.

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Debra's avatar

I will pray the revival starts within you. Jesus loves you!

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

The employment, schooling, and military situations! Beyond criminal, truly evil. And looking worse all the time. It's becoming unbearable.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Without full disclosure, there can be no informed consent. Their choice was procured by fraud, duress, fear, condemnation, and threats. I don't think most would have chosen it without the outright criminal fraud used against them. It's also true that some made a mistake. I didn't make that particular mistake, by taking the shot, but I've made others.

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SteelJ's avatar

The kids are a shame. But an adult has a responsibility to inform himself and not be easily manipulated and conned by such obvious scams as this. Anyone over 25 or so who believed the criminal fraud is hopelessly naive and has only themselves to blame. Most of us who saw through it from the beginning have no insider knowledge, we just pay attention. You are correct about the fraud, duress, fear, condemnation, and threats. But how were those who lined up and took their medicine subject to any different fraud, duress, fear, or condemnation than those who refused? Threats of job loss, yes that is the only valid excuse for an adult. I see your side though, I think this is something reasonable people can disagree on.

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Janet's avatar

Yes. I save my anger and judgment for those who caused this horror. I feel under no obligation to forgive utter evil in any way. They will receive either forgiveness or condemnation by the Judge of us all in time. I do however pray for justice in this world also.

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korigon's avatar

I'm angry at those that caused it as well as people in general who demanded that unjabbed people shouldn't have their jobs and be in society in general. If they believed the shots worked they shouldn't worry about what anyone else is doing.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Nobody batted an eye when half a dozen elderly friends in my mom’s retirement park “ passed away peacefully in their sleep “ after the shots. & her church keeps asking for prayers for “ rare “ medical issues & they kicked me off when I tried to share detox protocol!

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Freedom Fox's avatar

The first tell about a church/house of worship was if they closed to in-person services. The second was if they required masks and social distancing. If they did either of those things they proved by their actions they serve man first, above God. The words of God are cheap to preach. Spoken by charlatans and opportunists seeking status and esteem, their own vainglory. Unworthy servants of God. If your house of worship did those things you were/are obliged to find another or start another congregation of true believers and adherents to his word above man's. No matter what the consequences. Such weak faith demonstrated by clergy. Without even facing the horrors of being fed to the lions. Weak, weak men. Run from their serpent tongues mouthing scripture.

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Quiltlady's avatar

I live a block from a major Protestant church. They did all those things. I don't attend that church, but before Covid I was participating in one of their charitable ministries. Fortunately, I have belonged to a Spiritual Family for over twenty years. We met in homes prior to the nonsense and we now meet on Zoom. We have a leader who has a Masters degree in Biblical Exegesis and we study the Bible and encourage one another in our faith walk. Most of us did not take the shot, but a few were pressured into it by bosses or doctors. One who did take the jab recently had a heart attack which he survived. God will deal with the wicked. The Christians who followed the World will most likely lose a few of their rewards when Judgement Day comes. I pray for them daily.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Awesome network! Thanks for sharing that.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

What does that mean, "lose a few of their rewards"? Is that like the patches the Eagle Scouts get?

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Transcriber B's avatar

1,000%, Freedom Fox. 1,000%.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Found a church in Moore haven . I watch online because it’s far away and I’m sensitive to water damage buildings.

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

Thank you for saying that. It’s true.

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Fred's avatar

Norway (?) stopped jabbing their elderly early on because of the increased deaths.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Glad to hear that! Thank God.

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FGB3's avatar

'My heart goes out to people who made the wrong choice.'.

Sorry but not I. They are supposedly grown-up human beings.

You can't fix stupid, OR brain-washed.

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

It’s baffling isn’t it. People trained to trust doctors and the government.

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FGB3's avatar

Well "back in the old days" we had a "family physician" who knew us. Who delivered me. My grandfather died in his office from massive coronary. My grandmother would drive 450 miles each year back to our hometown to see this doctor. He was a sensible, learned man. You paid him in the office for a visit and it wasn't hundreds of dollars. Our entire medical health care system, scared shitless of "Socialistic Medicine" wound up with the same thing only worse, Medicine for Profit with "Insurance". It was OK to trust my doctors back then. As for trusting our government, we could before the coup of 11-22-1963. But after that, NO WAY.

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Nita's avatar

Yep. Small circle of friends with unusual amounts of Ca, infections of various kinds, risky pregnancies….

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Media Luna's avatar

Your *healthy* heart goes out to those who were coerced and now have a sickened heart!!

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Mom in Florida's avatar

It’s horrific. So many of my previous ‘critical thinking’ friends just took it and continued on not giving it a second thought. WTH? I just want to say “what were you thinking?”

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Deb B's avatar

Talked to an East Coast liberal acquaintance today, she knows 9 people currently with cancer. When I asked if they all took the jabb she contemplated a minute and answered yes. I dont think she had put 2+2 together! But then, she thinks masks work, so there is also that.

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Shari Ray's avatar

So true….

Like so many, being a critical thinker and research nut, I lost friends over the safe and effective jabs’! So sad!!

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Vonu's avatar

There is no sadder way to win an argument than surviving the loser.

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Jan's avatar

Truth, well said. I'm grief stricken, my beloved family member would not listen and I actually have pretty decent healthcare credentials. I miss him, no joy.

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Vonu's avatar

My late sister was a diabetic whose favorite foods were steak and bread machine bread, which is notoriously high in sugar. She freely admitted to being a brat that wasn't going to give up her bread, and since she was not insulin dependent, she knew what that meant for her long term survival. She told me one time that our late mother had been diabetic for as long as she could remember, but never needed insulin because, as an RN training in the days when they got taught nutrition, she had managed her diet to prevent diabetic crises.

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Same here.

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Dagny - great name - from "Atlas Shrugged" perhaps???

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lisa e's avatar

I lost friends too. Friends that I thought would be close forever. However, they believed the narrative and took the shots. It's so sad to walk away but how does one continue a friendship when it's clear their path will take them off a cliff! Have any of you resolved this? I feel badly about it but I need friends with critical thinking and strength moving forward.

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Transcriber B's avatar

For me the line in the sand was not so much whether a friend drank the Kool-Aid (although I will say, that was a disappointment) but whether or not they respected or they attacked the human rights of others. Those who did the latter, for example, the ones who promoted Jab Crow, they lost my trust and respect.

I don't judge people about whether or not they took the injections, I certainly have strong opinions about that, however, their personal medical decisions and medical histories are not my business, any more than mine are their business.

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lisa e's avatar

Good point ~ a few of my friends did judge me for having a different opinion. I agree; I lost trust and respect in them too. Medical decisions are definitely personal. Nevertheless, it did show me that they were willing to trust a system that does not have their best interest at heart.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

That's something I struggle with a lot. There are people I've known for decades and all of a sudden I can't talk to them about the shots, or Trump, or a number of other things. These are not stupid people. They are highly educated professionals. Sometimes I think the jabs may have infected their minds and they have lost the ability to think critically and objectively. Naomi Wolf wrote an essay about how these shots changed people's personalities.

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Quiltlady's avatar

It is also due to too much television. I have not watched broadcast TV in decades - huge waste of time. The "programing" they received trained them to take the flu shot every year. I suspect most thought this Jab was just like all the others they had received in the past. They didn't look beyond their programming and recognize the difference. I also don't take the annual flu shot. When I warned my extended family not to take these shots. they ignored me because I "don't have a medical background". I will continue to trust my own critical thinking skills and my degree in Social Science.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I'm with you on that. I don't have a tv.

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lisa e's avatar

I hear you, Elaine. I have struggled too. I'm not one to walk away from long time friendships, but I cannot have a relationship with someone that I no longer respect. Many that are educated are too trusting of the system, I find. There is evidence that many that took the poison shot have been effected psychologically. It's sad.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I totally get that. I've wondered if those who didn't get disabled or killed were affected in invisible ways, psychologically, emotionally, or mentally.

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Peggy   Bruening's avatar

Same….lost friends/family😞

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Jpeach's avatar

I don’t understand how the Clueless Masses have lost their ability to connect dots. Each piece of bad news (a celebrity sudden death, a young friend who now has life threatening condition, October 7th, Lahaina, Red Sea War, etc.) is just an isolated and easily explained event.

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Blair's avatar

I'm not sure some of them ever had the ability to connect dots. Many lack the intuition. Others are just way too trusting of authority.

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SteelJ's avatar

I think those way too trusting of authority out themselves by that trait alone that they lack the ability to connect dots. It was obvious to me as a teen you can't trust the authorities, and that was in the 60's. It's only gotten worse.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

The “authorities “ now appear as countercultural icons, with copious tattoos, alternative genders, taking down the old order.

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Blair's avatar

Well said. I agree.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Society underwent a massive campaign in the 60’s to turn all their medical decision making over to MDs. The campaign said- MDs knew best.

Prior to that campaign… people treated themselves at home- unless it was something really serious. Old school ‘kitchen remedies’ …

That was the beginning of this…

A huge percent of people would not even consider taking a vitamin now without the advice of their MD… but allow themselves to be put on any number of toxic pharmaceuticals…

so people are looking for the MDs to take care of them… they’ve all lost the ability to care for and find ways to heal themselves.

I think that’s really the crux of this matter.

They’ve substituted their own judgement… for MDs today. And a lot of MDs have conflicts of interest… for getting a person healthy. The MDs profit more -if you’re sick.

So that’s not someone I would trust.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

You're old enough to remember the magazine ads where doctors endorsed certain brands of cigarettes. I couldn't help but see these ads when doctors were so insistent on the covid shots.

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We need a revolution!'s avatar

We have sick care, not health care. Insurance, pharma, medical schools are all bent on their own self preservation at the expense of our lives.

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Vonu's avatar

They are emblematic of those who cannot see the genocide for the retaliation.

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Exactly!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Just look at the public education most of these numbskulls have been subjected to. They can’t do basic math, spell or write proper sentences to save their souls let alone develop critical thinking skills! The education system in our country is disgraceful and is producing a nation of dummies.

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devoalan's avatar

Intentionally.

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lisa e's avatar

I am a retired high school teacher and I can tell you, first hand, the education system is broken. I also believe it is intentional.

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Just Comment's avatar

They don't read news ?

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Natalie's avatar

Recently in our Sunday prayers at church it was announced that we would be praying for one of our members who had suffered a massive heart attack. He is probably around 50 and seemed in good health. I know he was vaxxed because when his wife finally returned to church after months and months of absence, I welcomed her and all she could talk about--through her mask, of course--was how thankful she and all her family were for the vaccines. The guy travels domestically and overseas for business, and he was set to travel in a few days. By the grace of God, he was in bed when he experience severe arm pain, and his wife immediately gave him an aspirin and called an ambulance. Thankfully, he's resting at home. He could have "died suddenly" in some hotel somewhere. It seems that almost every Sunday our prayers include a person with cancer (last Sunday it was brain cancer) or undergoing some kind of serious medical treatment. I talked to one woman at church who had some previous arrhymias, but she said it had gotten lots worse since she had COVID. I asked her if she'd had the vaccine because your body produces the spike, and that's toxic to the heart. She'd had three, and it turns out she's seeing a functional medicine doctor for spike detox. Her University of Michigan cardiologist has no interest in that, of course.

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Dawn B's avatar

2 years ago, I emailed my pastor with proof about the contents of vaxxes and urged him to tell others. I also asked if it was ok to take a medicine that will not protect or prevent illness AND was made with aborted baby and luciferase.

It's a pretty large church and an informative email.

I didn't expect or get a reply.

Why aren't pastors talking about this? Are they afraid of losing members or what????

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Natalie's avatar

My pastor was not vaccinated and he did lose members because of it. Some left never to return, and some stayed away for more than a year specifically because he wasn't vaccinated and are still angry about it. Yet he never told people that they should not be vaccinated. He felt it was their choice, in consultation with their doctor. Initially, there was a moral issue with the vax because of the fetal stem cell issue. The story was that Pfizer and Moderna did not contain fetal stem cells but were tested using fetal cell lines, just like medicines like Tylenol and other common meds were. It was hard to argue against them on the basis of pro-life issues when most conservative pro-life ethicists and theologians, including the Pope, were telling people it was not wrong to get the shots. (I'm not Catholic; I'm a pro-life Lutheran.) My pastor wrote letters for religious exemptions for my husband and quite a few other people, including some Catholics, whose priest refused to do that.

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Dawn B's avatar

Good for your pastor. Standing up for the right thing is often difficult. It was a delicate situation. Weed out the tares from the wheat....

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Deb B's avatar

FYI - You did see the whistleblower who revealed a deeper use of fetal stem cells were used than they admitted to....

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Natalie's avatar

I did hear about that later but don't know much about it. Do you--or does anyone--have a link to that information?

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

The shunning and ostracism by colleagues ... it's everywhere. Also, being treated as if one 'weren't quite right' in one's mind, like Tony Fauci's implying that RFK Jr. is a sad case: "He's very disturbed." So says the psychopathic Fauci.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Pure projection!!

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Susan's avatar

of course there wasn't any interest, that means they have to go against their mandated protocol, everything else is the issue and the vax is NOT to be blamed or your job is at risk, or he just believes the BS they are spewing. A doc I work with still rolls his eyes when I brought him good info on ivermectin, and promising cancer therapy and he still calls it a horse pill.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Stephen Colbert

mocked Trump about “bleach” and “horse paste” just a couple weeks ago.

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Susan's avatar

It was Trump back when the "plandemic" started, talking about hydroxychloroquine would help, they were mocking him back then, and yet, look what is being promoted in the holistic or the "real" doctors now, wow, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine! Love how that which is deemed "conspiracy theory" is proven as conspiracy fact!

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Anthony's avatar

I can't remember if I read it here or somewhere else, but now "conspiracy theory" is another term for "spoiler alert". lol

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lisa e's avatar

It's heart wrenching to see that they chose the Pharma god to worship and not our Heavenly Father.

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FGB3's avatar

"I welcomed her and all she could talk about--through her mask, of course--was how thankful she and all her family were for the vaccines".

Incredible! Truly incredible!! No one feels sorry for that minority (us) who had to live our lives during this big psy-op? Hey! we've got feelings too. Oh the trauma!

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LJB's avatar

Many of those I know who were fanatic about the jabs have moved on to promoting the trans agenda and returned to Trump bashing. They just can’t admit their ideology/ worldview is death dealing and destructive. I have stopped trying to communicate with them.

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Beckadee's avatar

Protect your mental health!

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

I have a friend in her 80s. She politely but firmly hectored me (and anyone who would listen) to get the shot -- even suggesting that I not join our group for lunch until I was vaxxed. The rest of the group got their shots but acknowledged that the choice was up to me.

Now, that friend, with three grown children, lost one daughter who fell over dead very suddenly, almost lost her son to a massive stroke, and has another daughter who is battling an aggressive case of ovarian cancer. The first daughter had some health issues but the other two were in very good health.

To date, my friend seems fine (amazingly). She no longer brings up the subject of shots, but I wonder if she has connected the dots at all. It would be rude for me to add to her misery by doing an “I told you so”, so I say nothing.

I have another friend who has had 5 injections. On social media she proclaimed “fire their asses” about anyone who rejected the shot. Now, having had Covid a couple of times and two heart ablations for A-fib, she quietly admitted to me that she was beginning to think it might be related to the shots. Hello???

I have begun to keep a running tab of anyone I know who has either died or had serious complications in the last 2.5 years. So far I have 25 names, many in their 30s and 40s. I do know of 3 cancers in people who were not vaxxed, but the others I know (or am reasonably certain) were vaxxed.

The lack of discernment on this issue has astonished me. I was skeptical from the beginning. I simply cannot grasp how so many people were duped. The consequences have been heartbreaking.

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space's avatar

I am glad that your 5-shot friend was able to admit that her medical concerns might be related to the shots. The majority of vaxxed people can't think about or admit it, because to do so means they were duped (no one likes to think that) and also that they may indeed be a walking time-bomb.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Most of them don’t hear a single thing about it, as far as I can tell. How would they? They think the deaths and illnesses are from Long Covid and delayed medical care and a

CDC study

just came out that parroted that view.

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Kim Thompson's avatar

Agreed. They know something is wrong but they can’t or won’t connect the dots.

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Dawn B's avatar

I lost my aunt to turbo cancer and later when talking to my uncle is flat out asked if he thought it was jab related. He admitted he considered it.

Because we were nit vaxxed we were uninvited to Christmas dinner 2021 and within 3 months after she was diagnosed and died.

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John Sutton's avatar

I'm so sorry for your loss, Dawn.

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CindyArizona's avatar

They can’t admit to themselves that they were wrong because the prospect is just too scary. If they admit that they were duped they also need to admit that their next 3 to 5 years could mean their demise and no one wants to think that they’re stupid decision could cause their death.

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Susan's avatar

exactly! We are a society of blame others, never ourselves. I have no issues blaming myself if myself was at fault lol, I just laugh at my mistake, own it, and move on. This is a tad bit more serious than just owning it, they had better start finding ways to rid their bodies of this stuff...if they can...or start planning on their quite possibly shortened future.

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CindyArizona's avatar

It’s too late for most of them to get rid of the stuff! Yes, there are several supplements and medications you can take like nattokinase and ivermectin to hopefully get rid of the spike protein. Hiwever, these mRNA injections are literally altering your DNA on an ongoing basis. Those problems cannot be addressed, as it has already been integrated into their genome. They have permanently altered who they are and there is nothing they can do about that now. Maybe start living their best lives knowing that they’ve been incredibly shortened.

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Susan's avatar

Very much agree! I am on alert, trust me, I just pray he got the placebo instead of the actual, but that would be very rare with 2 shots taken (Covid not Anthrax - doubt those were placebo.)

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

A "friend" at the dog Park, as I was approaching him "have you been vaccinated?"

"No"

"Then get the f*ck away from me"

I wonder if he's still alive.

I also miss him.

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Patti F's avatar

We're still not allowed in my sister-in-laws house because we're not vaccinated. Unreal. But she'll attend my daughter's wedding in Sept, without a mask (she doesn't bother with them any more) and THAT will be fine. But we can't go in her house. Make it make sense.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

You defied their political beliefs so they have to punish you.

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Ellen's avatar

My SIL wouldn't let me in her house either. She took every and any shot she could. She died unexpectedly and fast a few months ago, from Legionella pneumonia she got in a hot tub (most common place). I believe she was immune compromised and that's why she had such a hard time with it. It was very sad. When someone dies, you realize how all this crap is just - distractions in the material world. Her essence, her soul, was beautiful and I believe she is at peace.

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Patti F's avatar

I'm so sorry for your loss. I pray she's at peace, as are those she left behind.

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AL's avatar

It's shame. Too embarrassed to say she was that stupid.

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Ddm's avatar

Dr pierre kory just came out with his final report on shedding. If you bump into that friend again, ask if he's been recently vaxedcand if yes, then "get the f*ck away from me'. I don't want you shedding spike on me. Unbelievable someone would say that to you.

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space's avatar

Wow. Fear makes people crazy. I'm sorry.

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Irunthis1's avatar

I quit FB at least 3 years before the 'vid because some people who *were* dear to me started posting a LOT of screwed up political stuff that just SCREAMED out of the feed (because there were SO MANY) and were downright unhinged. Stuff like "every time you rip off my vote for biden yard sign I will be donating $20 to planned parenthood"(pretty sure this is the one that made me delete my account)--I had another friend who sympathized and told me to just block them in my feed like she did to her sister LOL. Too depressing for me. Took all the fun out of seeing what my friends and family who lived far away were doing. Sad.

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Dawn B's avatar

I can't do FB because it is fake and all about "me" syndrome. People showing off. I never liked people like that.

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Quiltlady's avatar

I cancelled my Facebook account in August of 2020 because of the political nonsense. People were getting rude and inconsiderate of anyone with a viewpoint different from theirs. I don't regret it - FB was a total waste of time.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Unfortunately, if their doctors continue the charade, they will likely live in unreality. Cognitive dissonance is a place that few people can go. Their whole world will unravel if they admit they believed a lie hook, line, and sinker.

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Debra's avatar

They are connecting the dots but because of narcissistic tendencies they are unable to speak about it to anyone as it makes a fool of them regardless of the serious consequences. Some of us are able to admit when we are wrong, learn from it, and help others.

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HotTub Marmalade's avatar

What part of experimental did they not understand???

Oh, that's right. Smart enough to do the job; dumb enough not to know what's going on around them." Sheesh.

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Chiadrum's avatar

Yup. My “science teacher” sister is doing the amnesty dance. “I’m not even saying you are wrong “. But of course it’s “time to move on”. In other words, “I can NEVER acknowledge the fact that my decisions were based completely on hysteria and I may have poisoned myself and my innocent children for no damn good reason”. Aah the beauty of the scientist mind.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I’ve posted plenty and get my same wise 8-10 people liking them BUT occasionally FB shows you how ma y READ it and didn’t react. Recently I got my little 10 likes but 117 read the post. I hope SO much that the ones not brave enough to like it, at least screen shot it and sent it to someone. The rest, I hope they put it in their pocket for later use.

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kr's avatar

Yes, it’s all a coincidence! We always have people dropping dead. Nothing to see here.

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Cynicon Implant's avatar

Most of my friends refuse to talk about it, but a couple are still proud of their adherence to the booster plan. "Gonna take a shot every year, just like the flu!" says my golfing buddy. "Why would you do that when they don't prevent infection?" says me. "They lessen the symptoms" says him. "Do you have the research that proves that?" says me. Silence.

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LuAnne's avatar

I fell for the, "they lessen the symptoms" garbage several years ago by doctors when every time I got a flu shot, I got super sick requiring medical care. One year, I was sick for 6 months. Once I stopped getting the shots, I haven't been anywhere near that sick since.

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AngelaK's avatar

Wow! One year my son fell for it as it was being encouraged in his corporation.

At 38, my son had NEVER had flu.

After the flu shot, he got the flu!

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Fred's avatar

Hahaha - at myself! Sorry for your son, but had to LOL because I too fell for the “infections happen, but the ones right after the shot are just coincidence.” Cannot believe I fell for that! Thankfully, woke up before C.

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STH's avatar

My son developed chronic kidney disease after a flu and Dtap 😑

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AngelaK's avatar

I am so sorry. 😥 Were these childhood vaccines?

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AB's avatar

This 100%. Every flu shot (I had a handful over my whole life) I got sick. Every time I was told it’s just a coincidence. Nope. They really push this during pregnancy though. Steely backbone is required

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Chiadrum's avatar

It’s almost as if our bodies have amazing natural defenses. Ssshhhhh

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AJF's avatar

I've heard that so many times now! One guy said he and his wife were deathly ill with the flu a few years ago (just before COVID was announced) for 2 weeks. I said, " Didn't you guys get the flu shot?" He said, "Of course! Imagine how much worse it would've been if we didn't?"🙄

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Mary H.'s avatar

I know many that still proudly brag about getting their shots (flu, Covid, shingles)… are they living under a rock ?

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

That was part of dinner conversation last night with a group I just met. When asked if I’m getting the shingles shot I confidently said, “No. I’m an anti vaxer, so”. Then silence. 😉

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AnnieMarie's avatar

Yeah, I just turned 50, the doctor asked me if I wanted the shingles vaccine. I said “no”. I’ve had shingles twice, I know the symptoms and I get to the doctor within the 72 hour window to get on antivirals and within two days it’s basically gone. Why would I get a shot that has heavy metals and God knows what else? I refuse the flu shot every year too. In the last 10 years, I’ve only had the flu once.

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Fred's avatar

Better yet, keep some antivirals on hand. They last MUCH longer than the expiration date; another scam - they sell more drug by NOT testing effectiveness; no money in that! Does anyone have the post from the guy who studied some for 40 years and found only a modest reduction in effectiveness? (Don’t trust far out of date tetracyclines though).

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Datagal's avatar

I think the military did a study on drug expiration. Like you said, it showed drugs are still effective way past expiration dates.

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Ellen's avatar

what antivirals are good for shingles?

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Susan W's avatar

I think it's acyclovir.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Share this with them.

FDA Requires a Warning about Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) be Included in the Prescribing Information for Shingrix | FDA

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/fda-requires-warning-about-guillain-barre-syndrome-gbs-be-included-prescribing-information-shingrix

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I know three people who got GBS from flu shots, and they suffered intensely from it.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

I know a teacher who got a sudden case of GB after having had the jabs. No way to know what is in anything anymore.. especially any kind of jab.

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AngelaK's avatar

😆

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Bgagnon's avatar

Bet that was a show stopper! Good for you! 🎯

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Beckadee's avatar

Hahaha that's is definitely the way to handle that. I love it

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John Sutton's avatar

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation. Good for you!

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Good One!

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nik's avatar

😂 love it !

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Annie's avatar

Love this reply. ❤👍

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Jaci's avatar

They are living in a bubble!

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

No. Rocks for brains. They will never change. They’ll vote D forever

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Kim Thompson's avatar

Some don’t vote D they also don’t vote R. Trump Derangement syndrome applies. They just won’t vote for a President.

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SteelJ's avatar

Which is stupid. I don't like Trump much either, but will sure as heck vote for him and hope desperately he wins. Every presidential election in my long life has been a choice of lesser of two evils. Too bad we'll never get COVID accountability from DJT since he's all in on jabs and lockdowns.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks for your comment--I would not have known otherwise

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

My aunt was/ is one of those people and after the 2 shots, shingles vax and her first booster, she got covid and was in bed for three weeks - still trusts "the science" - it's so bizarre.

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STH's avatar

Their Doctors tell them to take them. They trust their doctors to their grave. I BLAME THE DOCTORS as much or more than Pharma which I expect to be corrupt. We need lawsuits against the doctors. Even if they can weasel out if it, it will cost them time & money and stress. Hopefully LOTS of stress.

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Valerie's avatar

I had a client come in one day last fall and tell me not to work her upper arms because she’d gotten the flu, Covid, pneumonia, and shingles shots. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. What.

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Mary H.'s avatar

They walk among us!

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Levans's avatar

Why wouldn't they ? The government, media, medical journals , medical field , physicians, universities, STILL promote it !

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

One of my best friends took the jabs, hits the doctors office all the time, took the flu and shingles jabs, is way overweight, is on prescription meds, and doesn't believe me about the Chemtrails.

He is a conservative but listens to all the TV and Internet lies so he likes moderate butt kissers better yet complains about RINOs. I just can't figure him out at all.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Yes. Right next door to Anderson Cooper.

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Robin Landry's avatar

What truly shocks me is how many drug ads in tv now say, ‘let your doctor know if you’ve had the vaccine’.

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L1's avatar

Yes, yes they are.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

They’ll be under a rock alright, just not living!

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

The radio ads running now (really!) say to get your updated shot if it has been more than two months since your last one. My math puts that at 6 shots PER YEAR to stay "current". How many shot believers are seeing their injectors every two months?

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Robin Greer's avatar

And when I hear the ads, I get frustrated and mad that this is our tax dollars "at work" propagandizing. They also play them in the grocery store and the pharmacy. It's so irritating.

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Janet's avatar

If I didn’t know there were cameras everywhere I would plaster a small poster over their ridiculous signs with some truth. Walk by. Smack with a large post it note. Walk away.

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Quiltlady's avatar

I have wanted to do that as well. I have also been tempted to tell the people waiting in line that the shots are poison. I'm sure I would, at the very least, be escorted off the property. :)

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Yep. I listen to talk radio AM and the ads are quite ridiculous- Also here in CA CVS & Safeway have signs everywhere advertising for flu & Covid shots 🤮

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's actually very frustrating that they still push the shots.

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randall stoehr's avatar

The Bombarding/marketing has always been a tax write off.

The .GOV paid 100 billion for said doses. (Record profit!)

Now it's up to Pfizer to "nickel and dime" you to death.

I can laugh at that as a " No shot no shit Sherlock"!

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SteelJ's avatar

The silver lining is it wakes some (not enough though) to what BS mass messaging from the PTB is, and its purpose is not to help the public.

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gigiRN's avatar

And then if a person is not “current” that person is considered unvaccinated, so the data will Always be skewed to implicate the unvaxxed. (For those diehards (pun intended) who still believe all government data is valid.)

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space's avatar

Exactly!!

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Fred's avatar

Another one that 🤯 is Paxlovid. They admit that it is approved only for those at high risk, but then sneak in a healthy looking guy who says, ‘I’m not gonna take a chance.’

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

The pressure will continue until all benefit-takers are removed from the rolls.

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AngelaK's avatar

🙄🙄🙄

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Chiadrum's avatar

I wish that any and all who disdain the unjabbed would follow that schedule

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John Ransley's avatar

Plenty

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Peer reviewed study. Published 1/24/2024

Cureus | COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines: Lessons Learned from the Registrational Trials and Global Vaccination Campaign | Article

https://www.cureus.com/articles/203052-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-lessons-learned-from-the-registrational-trials-and-global-vaccination-campaign#!/

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Cynicon Implant's avatar

Thank you, Alice!

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Fred's avatar

Yes, thank you. My relatives still automatically discount anything from the good doctor.

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JW's avatar

"None so blind as he who will not see"

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, Jesus did say (more than once), ''let him who has ears hear".

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STH's avatar

I say the exact same. Only I phrase it “Do you know there’s not ONE study that proves the shots reduce symptoms?” I blame the doctors HUGELY. My neighbor with zero risk & 2 blood clots in his lungs after his latest fall booster, will not believe it’s from his Moderna shots because his doctor told him he didn’t know why 😑. And because you never hear about Moderna just Pfizer. 🙄 These people are unreachable.

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AngelaK's avatar

Lol to lessening the symptoms. I just got over it.. It was wierd but much, much less sick than when I once had influenza (H1N1).

It took 14 days to feel 100% but it was fine.

Whatcwas strange was that for the first 4 days it was super light and on day 5 I thought it was over. but on day 6 it got a bit worse until day 14. I was extremely run down the weeks before I got it, very busy, not eating much, otherwise I dont think it would have lasted that long.

My husband caught it, he was not run down because he is retired, (he didn't test, but it is a safe assumption since we refused to isolate from each other), and it was so light that it was ridiculous. It was like a 3 day head cold, one day fever and boom, he was fine.

Ofcourse we eat healthfully and take large dose vitamin c around the clock.

In the end, ofourse, thank God in all things. 🙏

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Gratitude indeed is good not only for the spirit----"A cheerful heart is a good medicine, but a downcast spirit dries up the bones" (Proverbs, 17:22)

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Jessica's avatar

My Mother in law has had 2 strokes and my Father in law lost count of how many trips to the ER he’s had because of anxiety. However, they are the 1st in line when a new booster rolls around. Well educated, successful people. They do live in the SF Bay Area which seems to be the den of the beast.

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Chiadrum's avatar

Also you could mention that the US is the “leader” in recommending boosters for all. While most other countries have moved on completely or at least have an age limit. So what does the CDC know that the entire world gets wrong?

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GC's avatar

A wicked flu comes from them "their" shots. I'm speaking from the north region, with past experience with loved ones. Don't shed on me!

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Fred's avatar

Sorry that I don’t have the time to post the data that, no, there is zero evidence that it lessens severity. But here is early 2021 UK data that showed that infection rate was lower (Feb-June before the rapid waning of immunity) but death rate after 2 shots was 8 x higher. Don’t have to read; scroll down to Figure 1.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8459929/

“The risk of COVID-19 also increased with time since the most recent prior COVID-19 episode and with the number of vaccine doses previously received.”

https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/6/ofad209/7131292

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Deb B's avatar

Del Big Tree just had a show on all Fauci's lie regarding just that. They had no data from which to be making their statements/lies.

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Datagal's avatar

You could say, “they might lessen the symptoms but you are more and more likely to get covid with each booster.” Cleveland Clinic study has a great chart.

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

Two of the 5 women whom I used to be friends with for 20 years have now reached out just seeing how I’m doing. They cut me out cold for 3 1/2 years and now a text. Really? My reply…hope you have a healthy life. I’m not interested in expending my time or energy on them. They can figure it out themselves. They hated that I did my own research 🤷‍♀️ I’ve lost too many people to SADS. 😵😵😵. The truly saddest part is I would have stood by them til the end and they know it. 🤷‍♀️

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Robin Greer's avatar

Forgiveness is healing. It was difficult for many to see through all of the psychological warfare. I look back and see that the lies have been going on for decades and I wasn't aware and I believed many of the lies perpetuated by the news decades ago. Have mercy and grace. You know you were right and they were wrong. They are now likely suffering the consequences for succumbing to propaganda. Restoration of relationships if possible is a good thing.

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I don’t wish anything bad on them. I’ve taken care of these women for a long time. When one was butchered by a botched hysterectomy I was the only one to show up at her hospital bed to help myself just having my gallbladder removed 3 days prior but there I was. Another had a kidney transplant and no one in her family of 9 siblings could help her and be her support person so I did it. I spent weeks and weeks away from my family to attend hospital classes and to cook for her and clean for her and so much more. It’s not about forgiving them as much as it is that I just now longer want to waste my time and energy on people who just take and so easily just went silent. My own family members are dying and sick. That’s where I’m spending my energy. My reserves are being depleted by people who now truly matter to me. Like I said…I hope they have a healthy life. Other than that…they can take care of each other, I did my time.

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Gary T's avatar

I'm with you. Forgiveness is only something that heals if the perp recognizes their sins and repent. In the case of the women you mentioned, sounds like they deserve less than forgiveness. Perhaps a final encouraging message "Please, go get your booster!"

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

Lol…well maybe the kidney chick…right before she cut me off she mentioned how she didn’t care if my hubs lost his job or anyone else for that matter because she was looking for a promotion. 🤷‍♀️ true story! ya I was over her that moment and she is one that texted me. Nope!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Echo @devoalan and @Susan.

There are different levels of existence. With the yardstick of Jesus, the Buddha, Yogananda as spiritual masters, on a soul level this one person you mention is embryonic or fetal in comparison to your (or I should speak for myself) development to, say, preschool or kindergarten. For that, they can be forgiven. We are all learning and growing, making plenty of mistakes.

On the ground, given how you've been treated and can recognize toxicity, that soul level forgiveness does *not* have to translate into opening your arms in welcome. My oft repeated prayer for the one particular soul in my life is, "I forgive you. Go in peace." In my case it's a sibling so I have no way of avoiding them from time to time. Thus, "oft-repeated" after I come away re-traumatized every time. I feel you. I truly do. You are right on, moving on. 💪

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Susan's avatar

some people you just have to cut off, they are toxic, forgive them for they know not what they do...and then move on, don't need that crap in your life.

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

wow, I'm so sorry. I truly am sorry.

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devoalan's avatar

Wow. Chutzpah.

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Annie's avatar

Amen. Agree 💯

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Fed up's avatar

I completely get how you feel. There is also a scripture “don’t throw your pearls among swine.” Sadly, this Covid “exercise” was instrumental in weeding out the friends that were not worth having - though we did not know it at the time. Of course, we wish them well (sometimes that is very hard to do) and hopefully forgive, but how can we go back when the veil is now off? To quote lyrics from the song Caledonia… “I’ve lost the friends that I needed losing, found others on the way….” Better friends await - like those you would rope yourself to if climbing a mountain. Blessings to you.

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Jade Dixon's avatar

Yeah. I had some friends I met in 2009. We spent 3 years battling a common enemy together. Toward the end of that they subtly turned on everyone they had worked with in the battle for their own benefit. I didn't see it at the time, I just wanted the battle to be over and my family had gained enough to be able to walk away. We stayed friends after and occasionally hung out together and kept in contact, until 2021. They never unfriended me on Facebook so I keep tabs on them that way. I avoid the city they moved to and they are still getting their boosters and are totally perplexed by the non-smoker in their family who got lung cancer so suddenly. The person with cancer posted 4 months prior that covid shots should be mandatory for all. I don't wish cancer on anyone but if someone has to get it I prefer it be the pro-mandate crowd.

I am grateful that the covid response fully unmasked the people I should have never trusted in the first place.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Excellent!

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MaryAnn's avatar

Mat 7:6 :) Took me a while to understand what that verse meant, but God is patient.

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Robin Greer's avatar

You definitely have to prioritize your time and energy.

Forgiveness is more for the person forgiving than the one being forgiven. As the old saying goes, "Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die."

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Media Luna's avatar

I can understand friends having been under the influence of a great psyop by which they rejected me. I can see they were misguided. But I could no longer return to the innocent friendship that was there before. It can’t happen. I feel wounded by their actions. I cannot imagine that they will not behave in the same manner given similar circumstances. The relationship has been soiled!

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Bgagnon's avatar

Yes, for whatever reason, the trust was broken and it's so difficult to get that back. This applies to all those in the public sphere that we no longer trust as well.

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Karen Dunning's avatar

It is possible to forgive them for your own mental and spiritual health but understand that there are consequences to their actions. I.e. you don't have to be friends again to forgive.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Totally understand that. I've had terrible situations where I have been brutally betrayed. Had to let it go and realize that all things work together for good for those who are called according to His purpose. God moves us on for a reason. I must grow and learn from the experience and be more wise the next time such a situation arises.

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Karen Dunning's avatar

Yes! Also remember that Christ paid for their sins as well as yours.

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Robin Greer's avatar

It is good and necessary for me to remember God's grace shown to me each and every day. The thing about grace is that by definition, I do not deserve it. As Romans 5:8 says while we were His enemy, Christ died for us.

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Media Luna's avatar

Exactly!

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Jan's avatar

It is, though hard. I just continue to remember how much I've been forgiven. At this moment I'm sitting in companionable quiet with my daughter while she works from home and I'm enjoying a short visit for her birthday. In May of '21 she admonished me that I had no right to comment on her family's healthcare choices as I shared research: she and husband took the jab. I have been a NP for 27 years and had supported her with health information through four births and countless illnesses. It was soul crushing as a mom and nurse. Three years later we don't talk much about those days. I try to extend grace to a working mom of five whose father-in-law was a surgeon who drank every drop of kool-aide. I know she succumbed to pressure from him. I pray for her health and her husband's, confess my anxieties, and try to forgive her otherwise kindly father-in-law. Life is short. She called me last week and ask what she should do for a 9 year old with high fever....take her in to be seen. It was pneumonia and strep.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Prayed for the Lord to heal those relationships and bring restoration and to give you peace. I cannot imagine how hard it must be to have that barrier with your children, but I see it all of the time. I know that I did not fully understand the depth of my own mother's love for me until she was gone. When I went through her things and saw all that she had kept from my childhood that was so precious to her, then I understood.

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STH's avatar

I too am noticing the fb friends who unfollowed me 2-3 yrs ago when I was posting controversial censored professional opinions on these shots, reappearing and “liking” or commenting on my posts. It’s so unbelievable.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Sometimes it's better to move on and make new friends!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Yes, indeed.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I've had to forgive when it wasn't deserved or even asked for. A friend taught me that when you hold onto grudges, you damage yourself while the object of your scorn is blissfully unaware. I want to extend mercy and grace, to become the person I want to be. It's very freeing. You don't even have to let the other person know, unless there's an opportunity to do so.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Totally agree that it is freeing.

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Lizz C's avatar

I lost friends too. My mother died in 2020 from cancer unrelated to anything covid 19. My “friends” didn’t even offer to come sit outside or anything. Eventually sent me messages like “you’re living your life differently” bc I wanted kids back in school and didn’t think masks were effective especially for children!

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Janet's avatar

That’s cold. Sorry.

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ChiChi's avatar

Yep, it’s hard enough to respect someone who is stupid, but if they are mean AND stupid, you are better off without them. I am betting they aren’t so smug now.

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Annie's avatar

Same here. My one "friend" who yelled at me now was so happy to see me. She asked how I have been. I said fabulous. I know for a fact their entire family had covid several times as well as her 2 year old grandson has a rare liver disorder. It all over Facebook. She was shocked we were doing so well. No dot connecting.

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

They either are so stupid they just don't understand it or just don't want to be "wrong". Most of my jabbed friends catch nearly every new strain that comes around.

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Kim's avatar

Same here. I didn’t have tons of friends before Covid but the few I had (for more than ten years) cut me off when the jab rollout started. One friend sold face masks with embroidered initials and pretty designs 😵‍💫 and was offended when I didn’t buy any. But it was me not wanting the shots that shut the door. I was treated like a leper by so many people, and I’m talking about fellow church people. I can never forget that. I have spoken to this friend over the past year but it will never be the same. So many people were deceived by the lie, and some still hold to it.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Oldest Methodist church in Alva Florida, been a visitor for 20 plus years. They’re still sold on masks and shots. (Faith over fear , where’s that? )

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Melissa S's avatar

I can't think of anything else in modern times that has separated family members and friends as much as the covid vax scheme. Even Trump derangement syndrome pales in comparison. During this time one could simply refuse to discuss politics. But being "unvaxxed" was beyond the pale to so many. And still is to some.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

I beg to differ about TDS. I live in a blue state with most of my friends (many now former) being on the left. Often, if the word ‘Trump’ is mentioned, the spit starts flying. I don’t take any pharmaceuticals but am considering getting a rabies shot!!!

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Janet's avatar

I know. I shudder to think what their reactions will be as the polls widen for trump. Yikes. I’m surrounded by Dems too.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

🤣😂🤣😂

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Bgagnon's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

My mom is fully up to date with every jab and watches the View, has serious trump derangement syndrome. She thought my husband & I were legally obligated to watch Fox news only, lol. She is in her 80’s and got her boyfriend to vote for his first time ever. My Dad would be turning in his grave if he could witness her mental illness. He was a critical thinker & I hadn’t realized his influence on her until he had passed away.

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STH's avatar

Yup! There seems to be a plethora of hypochondriacs.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I'm seeng a resurgence of TDS. It could be that they had to jump of the sinking vax ship and found something else, something they are confident they can win. When this one sinks as Trump goes back to the White House, what will be next?

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Jaci's avatar

Some just don’t deserve your loyalty.

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Alison Smith's avatar

I would have at least asked how they were doing! Maybe they are suffering from cancer now.

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Fred's avatar

My relatives would lie…

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree. Breaks my heart.

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Sunnyseamama's avatar

I’m right there with you. My most angry moment was when parents of 2 of my daughter’s best friends cut her off completely saying they needed to keep to their “bubble”

(The other 2 families are neighbors) and canceled her from all upcoming plans for 6 months. I’m still angry years later.

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SteelJ's avatar

I'm with you, they deserve exactly the same consideration they gave you. Any doubts they wouldn't do the same thing all over again? Of course they would.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Amen.

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FourWinds's avatar

Yes. I have always hated western medicine as a result of abuse by a doctor (and others) but that turned out to be a total Godsend. I didn't think I could trust them any less, then the scamdemic happened. Now there is no way, ever, never, not going to happen.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

👏💪

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Annie's avatar

Yep. The vaxxers in my office are on illness number 3 or 4. They get over one and another comes. Lots of fevers. They are frantic. Ambulance sirens all throughout the day. It's a nightmare. And I am talking generally healthy people under the age of 55. Their families are sick too. And then there's me, the elephant 🐘 in the room. Perfectly healthy. Yeah. They know.

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Melissa S's avatar

My husband and I are actually much healthier since covid came around. Rarely even colds. No jabs, less trust in so-called medical experts and pharma, but much better informed about our innate immune systems and natural treatments including foods, herbs, and healthy practices. Those I know who got in line (and continue to do so) for their magical jabs tend to see information about our natural, unmessed with immune systems as misinformation. And they are frequently ill.......

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Annie's avatar

Agree. I believe me and my family are healthier physically, emotionally and spiritually since this scamdemic. We see things for what they are and trust in God's guidance and His words. A much better way to live. 🥰

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Blair's avatar

Sadly, I think the sacred miracle elixir's most prominent feature was to slowly (or quickly) destroy the immune system (VAIDS). Hopefully, I'm wrong. Time will tell.

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Helen Barnett's avatar

My heart goes out to those who risked their health trusting our gov’t and scientific community. And my anger is blazing at ALL our 3-letter agencies. Now what are we going to do about it?

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SteelJ's avatar

The three letter agencies and bought-and-paid-for scientific community have power only because so many people trust and respect them. My heart doesn't go out to people who empower these corrupt, soulless monsters.

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STH's avatar

My anger is at the DOCTORS. I expect BS from the 3 letter agencies.

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Lizzy46's avatar

We can trace the lies back from the doctors to medical schools bought and paid for by Big Pharma. The major theme being to let people get sick and treat symptoms rather than find causes. Ask any doctor how much of their training was in nutrition...you will be flabbergasted by the answers!

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CitizenA's avatar

I agree Elizabeth. And the same with veterinarians.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

But if people would talk about it maybe we could work together to find/demand a solution. Instead when someone dies suddenly, even a young healthy person, it's normalized.

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Annie's avatar

Yep. The 1st step to addressing a problem is admitting you have one.

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Beckadee's avatar

Yep just add Covid to the taboo of talking about politics and religion.

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SB's avatar

Yep I think I listened to Gods quiet voice saying no, too. Thank you Lord!

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NAB's avatar

This is my experience too.

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Robin Landry's avatar

I had to go up against my whole immediate family to say no—but now my husband has thanked me for saying no. He’s the most normal of the normies.

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Susan Banks's avatar

Amen Kim!! My Sons is who took it (one had to for his job and one didn’t) told me several times that I should take it! Thank God I had enough Independent Journalists on Rumble, (especially Stew Peters) knew enough (and I have a ton of discernment and common sense) to never go near it. I prayed when I went near them, but never had any problem with shedding from them! I stay believing with my Entire Body, My mind, and Soul that they were injected with Saline!

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Crixcyon's avatar

Yes, that is common now.

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RU's avatar

The sad reality is, not only did they make an error in judgment and berate people like us for not making the same error, but they also seriously injured themselves and have probably set themselves up for an early death. I wish it were otherwise. I have many family members who have 3+ shots. I just realized sometime over the past week or so that I have to start treating every interaction with those folks as if it will be the last.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Yesterday when I picked up a prescription, the pharmacy tech asked me if I was up to date on my vaccines or if they could help with that. I told him, “No thank you! I believe that vaccines are of the devil, because I am a nurse who actually reads the science.” I used to be very pro-vax, but 20 years prior to Covid, I started to reconsider that point. Nothing that has come out over the last three years of this whole Covid process has convinced me otherwise. I now, more firmly than before, believe that all vaccines are problematic at best and awful at worst. I will no longer get any vaccines myself.

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this little authoritarian's avatar

It's a little hard to sympathize when the vitriol and certainty have been replaced by timidity and awkward silence. A reasonable resolution can really only come when there is a widespread acknowledgement of public health malfeasance/government overreach and people's compliance with authoritarian measures. It won't come from the relatively small, anti-narrative side or those folks still obediently wearing masks and getting boosters.

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Melissa S's avatar

The fact that those in your circle who were so vocal about vaccines are now silent is progress. Even if they refuse to connect the dots. I assume your circle of friends and associates no longer treat the unvaxxed as dangerous lepers?

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MoM's avatar

Rest in peace Toby Keith. A true red blooded American. His song American Soldier makes me cry every time I hear it. Watch over our troops overseas, one in particular.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

https://youtu.be/DWrMeBR8W-c

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Amazing patriot! 💔

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MoM's avatar

He will be missed. I wish there were more like him.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

agreed.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Hearing this sad news this morning made me cry immediately. Rest in Peace Toby Keith

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Why would he lower himself to taking The Jab?

Just tying to be safe? He didn't need it for his job.

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tjsplace's avatar

I have a friend who took it because his daughter would not allow him to visit his grandchild otherwise. Wonderful Christian man. Now in the last stages of pancreatic cancer. Came on suddenly. Perhaps Mr. Keith took a similar approach/risk, setting aside his own will for what seemed a better cause. Or, perhaps, like most of the world, he only consumed mainstream media news.

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Blair's avatar

Sadly, this was very common. I knew many people who didn't want to to take the sacred miracle elixir, but had their hand forced in order to see their grandchildren. This entire ordeal is nothing but pure evil authored by Satan himself.

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STH's avatar

I would have said “fine I guess I’ll see them when you all wake up from your coma. Or are desperate for a sitter”! That’s the problem- people couldn’t see this was all temporary. Your grandchildren aren’t going anywhere. Your cruise or European vacation will still be there in a couple of years. I knew it was only temporary, it was such a ruse!

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Blair's avatar

Well said. You're exactly right. I knew people who took it for superficial reasons, like being allowed to travel to Mexico. Pure insanity.

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Melissa S's avatar

This evil authored by Satan himself goes both ways: Parents who won't let the grandparents see their grandchildren unless they got the covid vax (and with infants a bunch of other vaccines now recommended by the illustrious CDC), as well as grandparents who refused to allow their children and grandchildren into their presence without first being jabbed and "up to date".

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We are in the same position. Our son’s first child (and our first grandbaby) is due at the end of the month, but we will not be allowed near the baby until it is fully vaxxed (probably a year😔) unless we get vaxxed for Covid, flu, tdap, and rsv. Our hearts are broken.

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Dee's avatar

When my DIL was pregnant in 2019, she demanded via text that we get a flu and tDap shot before the baby was born. I ignored her text but told my son, how dare she tell me what to put in my body. I know he didn’t tell her what I said and she never asked, but if she had, I was prepared to lie, because seeing my first grandchild was more important than standing up for my principles. And I wasn’t about to be left out while my son’s dreadful mother-in-law got to spend time with the baby.

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Marie's avatar

Take a look at this link and send to your son and his wife.

https://rumble.com/v3xg9m7-episode-347-vaccine-experts-under-oath.html

There's testimony under oath of those in power over childhood vaccines. So terribly sad we've been so ignorant of these medical deceptions.

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Marie's avatar

You need to send them this link:

https://rumble.com/v3xg9m7-episode-347-vaccine-experts-under-oath.html

It's about an hour long, but it covers so much about childhood vaccines and how we've all been ignorant of these medical deceptions. These people testified under oath and it's all beginning to unravel. Hope this helps someone.

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Cathy's avatar

Oh my. I’m so so sorry for you. As a grandparent I can’t imagine how that would feel. Be strong in your convictions. Look at how many people regret getting vaxed. And the SADS. Stay strong and pray your son and dil see the light.

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STH's avatar

TL- DO NOT let them strong arm you into taking YEARS off your life or worse. I’d disown my kids if they tried to pull that crap with me. I am completely serious. It’s time to get mad!

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Oma's avatar

I’m so sorry to hear this. I have friends in the sad situation 💔

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tjsplace's avatar

I am so sorry. Is there any way to change their thinking, even a little, with more accurate information than what they are receiving from MSM and the Medical establishment? Praying for you.

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TeacherLori's avatar

Thank you so much for your prayers. At this point, they are only listening to their midwife and pediatrician. God is the only One who can open their eyes to the truth; I haven’t lost hope in Him, and I believe He answers prayers.🙏🏼

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Jan's avatar

OMG they need a new midwife! Just say'in, from another nurse midwife. I'm so sorry. I'm interested in root cause? Do they think that precious baby will never encounter pathogens? Somehow these access issues seem to be about control. I pray they will mellow and see the harshness of their thinking.

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Marie's avatar

Sorry, I sent my info twice. I didn't think it sent the first time. 😉

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CaplT's avatar

We are still not allowed to see grandchild after 3 years.

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Jan's avatar

It amazes me how many older patients of mine got the jabs because their kids wouldn’t let them see their grandchildren. It sickens me. Who the hell are these adult children to force jabs on their parents it’s disgusting. They caved ! What about families and people forcing guests to get the jabs to attend their wedding or don’t come. Who the hell are these sick folks! My daughter got it to attend a family event. I told them if anything happens you will never forgive yourselves and I sure as hell won’t for them. My oldest son was jabbed by his girlfriend’s pharmacist pressured, my other son got it to be in the cool group and then boostered to travel to Amsterdam. Now I worry sick.

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My friend got jabbed because her DIL wouldn’t let her see her grandkids otherwise. Then my friend had a heart attack. Then she got the booster so she could see the grandkids. Now she’s tired all the time. I hate to imagine what’s up with my friend’s health.

I hike with another friend and we are training for a big climb. I just learned he got the latest booster. Can’t help but think he might keel over on one of our hikes!

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AngelaK's avatar

Think back..it was impossible to travel (other countries required it of travelers as WE DID until fairly recently) or work with people without it. Impossible! Hubbie and I just honkered down knowing that we were not going anywhere for a while.

Imagine how many people from other countries coming here for work or family vaxxed because of our mandate.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

But as a rich guy, he didn't need to travel to keep food on his plate.

It's interesting how many of us, and famous people as well, knew to avoid The Shots.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

There's also the music industry aspect. We all know how people like Dave Grohl, Sting, Bruce Springsteen, and others required proof of the jab as a condition to see their show.

As a deeply liberal institution, musicians unions, promoters, venues, and the entertainment industry at large were true believers and had mandates. Like everything else, Big Pharma is a big sponsor. I wouldn't be surprised if that factored into the decision, assuming Toby Keith took the shots.

I watched as British artists eagerly launched U.S. tours in 2022 while the Biden mandate was still in force. U.S. bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers, G&R, among others launched international tours in 2021. I assume all of these artists got their shots.

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SteelJ's avatar

Yes, assuming he was jabbed, which seems a safe assumption, he was either weaker or stupider than some others with principles who didn't succumb. Novak Djokovic for example.

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devoalan's avatar

He had stomach cancer before the jabs rolled out. You don’t live with stomach cancer. He lived as long as possible, and still worked for awhile. Gotta tell ya Jeff, this don’t wash.

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STH's avatar

You have a point? But you can’t tell me taking a shot that compromises your cancer surveillance system didn’t make him succumb sooner than he would have. Both can be true.

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LuAnne's avatar

He was diagnosed with the cancer in Dec 21. Didn't the jabs roll out in early 21?

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AnnieMarie's avatar

Not entirely true. We traveled, driving and flying, more during Covid than we had pre covid. My husband was vaccinated with the Moderna x2jabs. ( never got any of the boosters) and I’ve never been vaccinated. We never had to show proof of vaccination. And we lived in Washington state at the time. Maybe we just got lucky with the places we traveled to, but we did fly several times too.

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AngelaK's avatar

In this country domestically, yes you are right. However, if you went to NYC you could not enter any venue (even museums, even if you wore a mask) without vaccination card.

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STH's avatar

I’m in WA state and we couldn’t even get into a restaurant in King Co without showing a vax card. You must not be in communist King Co. So my husband and I found patriot restaurant owners who didn’t enforce it. We were in a FB group that shared all the good places to go. Luckily we don’t live in King Co and only were there if visiting friends or family.

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Ann's avatar

You didn’t try to go to a sporting event, concert, zoo, or Christmas event in the Seattle area . . . or many restaurants. All required proof of vaccine. Domestic flying was different from international. You could NOT return to the USA, even though a citizen without proof of Covid vaccination. (Unless you walked across the border, then no test AND no vaccine proof necessary.)

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Media Luna's avatar

As an American citizen you were not required to show proof of vaccination when returning from overseas. But any non-citizen had to show vaccination proof. Think of Novak Djocovik.

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Ann's avatar

This is totally NOT true. I was in England trying to return to the USA in May 2021 and they would not let us fly because my batch number of the vaccine could not be verified. British Airlines finally did verify and let us fly, but it was very stressful waiting for confirmation. I even had a person posted to guard me! This is a true story. Why you are saying otherwise puzzles me. People walked across the border untested and unvaccinated and I was enduring this treatment and I was and still am furious. I also am still kicking myself for believing the narrative of safe and effective and wondering how stupid I was. I was programmed to believe my doctors and esteemed professionals. Yes, I was clearly unenlightened and regret taking the Covid Vaccine.

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Media Luna's avatar

Horrible experience you had! I traveled in February 2021 and all I needed to show to return to the USA was a PCR test, not vaccination. I read the requirements beforehand and was ready to put up a fight if they gave me any trouble. I traveled out of the country only because I have dual citizenship and in both countries the only requirement for citizens was that pcr test (Of course, this was stated in the smallest print on the official website of each country).

But I had those pages bookmarked in my mobile phone in case I needed to show it in the airports. I took the pcr test reluctantly, but that is all it took. If I had had to take the vax I would not have traveled even if broken hearted for not being able to see my family.

I took the same trip on 2022 as well and the same, PCR test both ways but not vaxcard.

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Christy's avatar

He’s one of my fav entertainers! And I’d be willing to bet a lot that he’s jabbed. Everyone not tuned it took it out of guilt. Don’t wanna kill grandma.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

He was a big Trump supporter as Jeff pointed out. I would be willing to bet that he was an early adopter of Trump's beautiful vaccine, like many of my older conservative friends (my sister, for example) who now are suffering with buyer's remorse.

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree. My dad took and has since passed from lung cancer. I completely blame the jab and thank god my mom knows it too.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Sorry to hear that. My sister has developed an array of medical issues that she attributes to the shots and lives in fear. Fortunately, I got to her before she had the chance to get a third shot.

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Christy's avatar

Thank God!!! Have you told her about flccc?

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SteelJ's avatar

Which is a sign of stupidity. It's 100% predictable they will ALWAYS play the guilt card. To fall for it is no excuse, it outs one as a fool.

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Christy's avatar

Hopefully you have shared flccc💕

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Christy's avatar

Totally understand. I think we all family like that💕

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Jamie's avatar

Does anyone know for sure he got it?

I listen to him, but I don’t follow people like that to know if he actually did or not…

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Yes! Love Toby Keith and his patriotic contributions to the military. Will miss him greatly.

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T Hines's avatar

Oh gosh...just weeping here.

I had never heard that before.😥

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Jan's avatar

On x if you search Toby Keith vaccinated many pics of him and band mgr I think saying they got the jabs.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Rogan earned every cent of his new contract. Comedians and laughter will save us: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-tell-a-joke-comedy-clapter-cringe-snl

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dagny awoke's avatar

On the topic of subversion, please be wary of any post here or on telegram that advocates for an awakening to ‘nature’.

We know it’s not nature, it’s always God 🙏

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Jaci's avatar

God is nature and all of His creation!

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Sharon's avatar

No. God is not nature. He is separate from His creation.

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God is omnipresent, everywhere, in everything. And omiscient and omnipotent. Every thing, from the lowest of the low (and are we ever discovering how low, low goes on planet earth) to the highest (which is not of flesh but another level of existence). There is no separation. Surely you don't mean to declare that you, or nature, is separate from everything/every thing (i.e., God). How is that possible? God is the Creator *and* the creation. God IS / I AM that I AM. Every thing/everything and everywhere is all inclusive. We don't get to pick. God is not "out there," separate. He is right here, and in every part of the cosmos, known/discovered and still a mystery, everywhere, within the totality of every thing, "good", "bad" and "indifferent," all human judgements. Sad to read you feel you are separated from God and (?? I shouldn't assume, so you've every right to correct me) only get to return to His Glory when you depart the body. The kingdom of God is within you: Jesus said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:20-21). Written with hope that it provokes thought and is taken in the spirit it is offered. No offense intended.

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Fed up's avatar

Pantheism

Are you thinking of Pantheism? Pantheism is the philosophical religious belief that reality, the universe, and nature are identical to divinity or a supreme entity. The physical universe is thus understood as an immanent deity, still expanding and creating, which has existed since the beginning of time. The term pantheist designates one who holds both that everything constitutes a unity and that this unity is divine, consisting of an all-encompassing, manifested god or goddess. Wikipedia

You said…..”within the totality of every living thing, good, bad, indifferent…”

God is Holy, Holy, Holy. He cannot sin. He created nature but is not nature, as others have said here. No offence either and perhaps I misunderstood what you meant.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Pantheism? If you wish. I don't subscribe to boxes.

God is Holy, repeated ad infinitum, as the "level" of Holy is beyond the ken of human understanding.

Sin is a construct of human thinking. No indeed, God cannot sin. God is not subject to the limitations of human thinking.

God IS. God is Every Thing and Everywhere (omnipresent), All Knowing (onmiscient) and All Powerful (omnipotent).

It's ok if we don't agree on the words or concepts. God knows that we struggle with language to describe the ineffable nature of His Being.

My main point was that no thing/nothing is separate from God. God is Every Thing/Everything. Everywhere, all at once, in all parallel realities (what quantum physics has only begun to dis-cover), in every vibration (nascent quantum physics again) of the universes [sic]. God, the Creator, created it all. Is not the whole of the cosmos part of nature? Most of which humans have yet to explore through our clunky, earthly stage of science? What part of nature is God separate from? The whole of the cosmos? God is not part of His Great Creation? He is separate from it? If so, and we reference the totality of every thing/everything when speaking of His Great Creation, including planet earth and her inhabitants (and ETs, and wherever they come from, with such talk now in the zeitgeist) where, meaning location, is God? In another universe also of His Creation? So in one but not in all the others (again, that human science is becoming aware of)? Or many others but not ours? Keeping in mind God has no physical body or even any resemblance to one. He simply IS. I think we should give God the benefit of the doubt, since the limits of our human understanding are pitiful vis a vis God. God IS every thing, every place in His Creation, including planet earth - all of it.

I suppose we could debate the nature of God for many eons to come. Nothing new there. The limitations of our human thinking and language will trip us up and stump us every time. I feel a sadness that humans perceive themselves, or nature, or anything in Creation separate from The All/God. If it's All, doesn't that include... All? No? We/you/someone needs to place a limitation on All/The All/God? My perception, this is arrogant, considering the expanse of Everything (including planet earth), most of which is unknown (including earth stuff - we hardly know everything there is to know) and probably incomprehensible to the human mind. 2¢ - if that. Clearly.

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Dena's avatar

God created nature.

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ERIKA LOPEZ's avatar

Same thing to me

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CStone's avatar

Except it isn’t.

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ERIKA LOPEZ's avatar

(Smile)

Ok and good morning!

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dagny awoke's avatar

Good morning ☀️

Nature is God’s creation, but so is man. Nature is not to be worshiped as a false idol. Mankind has God given rights which are not inferior to nature. Read King Charles’ Terra Carta which ‘replaces’ the Magna Carta.

I’m witnessing many subversive accounts with communist or anti-God principles which are disguised as rebellious or anti-society through promoting the superiority of nature. We should come up with an emoji to indicate suspicious content… any ideas? 🤥🙃🍁👹🙈👿

Blessings!

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Paula Weiss's avatar

An upside down tree? In my dystopian novels, the mandatory religion on the wrong side of the border is the Mother Earth Diversity Church. The country's flag is a round green circle against a black background. Maybe that would be an easier icon/emoji to indicate dangerous nature-based subversion.

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fineart2day's avatar

100%, a very important distinction (made toward the end of broadcast) https://www.truthforlife.org/broadcasts/2024/02/06/the-glory-we-await-part-2-of-2/

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Susan Banks's avatar

Nature still plays a big role in Ascension!!

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

I like Rogan, but I think he pretends to know less than he actually does...of course he can't say it all in public. Also - I can't get over why someone so intelligent would wear airpods that radiate his brain?

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CaplT's avatar

Too bad there are not wired hearing aids. The oldsters are fighting a losing battle with in-ear aids.

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SteelJ's avatar

I like Rogan too. I agree he's smart, but not as smart as he should be. He actually said Peter Hotez is a very nice man, or words to that effect. So wearing airpods isn't surprising to me.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

I see you work with computers...may I ask what specifically?

I'm building out an EMF 101 course that includes getting back to reliable tech, hardwiring, etc.

https://www.thepowercouple.ca/emf-101-register

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SteelJ's avatar

I've been a one-man shop on the technical side for 41 years, my wife helps a lot with the non-technical stuff. We could be described as an IT department for small businesses that don't have their own. So I do whatever they need - hardware research and procurement, installation, networking, general support, and programming. Started out just programming, doing that full time is not healthy, code is always running through your head 24/7. Mine anyway. We do pretty much anything except web design and Linux. Cutting back as I can without abandoning anyone (yet) at 73. Re reliable tech, I often think how when we were using mini-computers before PC LANs took over, they just worked and kept on working. Nobody would have believed we'd have migrated to systems so plagued by crashes and instability as Windows networks often can be. Of course those old systems were narrowly focused.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Ha I hear you..maybe he says those things more because he's wearing airpods!

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Jean James's avatar

Or maybe cause he’s stoned 😂

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Susan Banks's avatar

Brain Cancer!! Use the ones with wires!! They are killing us every way we can!

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Susan Banks's avatar

Amen!! I have many things that I die laughing at!! I look for it! I have Dr Malone Substack and he does these Cartoons that are so funny! I can see the same ones over and over, and still laugh!! Great for the Soul!!

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Loretta's avatar

If you haven't come across el gato malo, you might want to give him a try...

https://boriquagato.substack.com/

If you decide to become a paying subscriber, you get lots of memes every Sunday.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

The commenter who questioned whether the current "Lloyd Austin" is an imposter, I performed a very unscientific review and I'm going to say it's not him.

The nose is different.

The forehead is now a five-head

The ears are level, and they weren't before.

If anyone can help me out by reviewing "before" video and comparing the voice, that would be great.

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Gram's avatar

I hope someone has told Rogan by now that 100% of 'vaccines' supposedly approved by FDA are a hoax. ZERO vaccines ever proven safe or effective. ZERO!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Toby Keith died from stomach cancer. I've heard a lot of cancers can be treated with fenbendazole and ivermectin.

Is Cleveland Clinic, John Hopkins Medical, and the gubmint funding studies the these low cost, often effective treatments?

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ASK's avatar

Never! Low cost, repurposes drugs will never be studied because they make big pharma NO money and might make people healthy. How could they possibly want that?!?

There is a study by a few renegade doctors as to IVM and fenben and cancer, but even though they are proceeding carefully, I am sure they will be attacked at some point. So many doctors have died mysteriously.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Re: low cost, repurchased drugs.

Watch this from 3 years ago about Ivermectin. From Canada.

https://youtu.be/8XCYzpHBEkI?si=KkMRRQVPYTI8AOVv

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devoalan's avatar

I intend to contact those that are working with alternatives when I finally do end up with it. Gonna happen, just not sure when. And I’ve lived a full life. So a test subject I will be.

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CeCe Brown's avatar

Bahahahaha... so funny! Of course they aren't! Big pHARMa wouldn't make any money off anybody actually being healed.

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AngelaK's avatar

I am constantly flabbergasted at the big pharm commercials while watching streaming channels (I am at home with a fractured knee and 3 months of prescribed at home recovery). Because of my knee, I am watching alot of hulu and netflix, and the amount of big pharm commercials are absoltely ridiculous. Commercial after commercial of newly concocted illnesses and newly concocted silly named medications! And the side effects they mention are soooo appealing! 🙄

The vaccine they advertize and push for like crazy is for shingles.

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Mom of 5's avatar

Like the interview that Tucker had with Calley Means said-the ads are to capture the media-to put media on pharma payroll. They are not for selling the vaccines/medications to the viewing audience. The doctors already do that for pharma.

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AngelaK's avatar

They sure are buying the media!

Give me the old sponsors with cute commercials for breakfast cereals, cars, shampoos, etc. These commercials make me sick. 🤮 (maybe they can concoct a medication for that!!) 😉

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Befferz's avatar

Yeah, on the Shingles one they will admit there's a risk of Guillian Barre Syndrome, but the lay person does not realize what that actually means.

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AngelaK's avatar

I think the ignorant lay people just ignore the warnings if the doctor tells them something is good. People cannot understand that doctors are big pharm drug pushers, ignorant of nutrition and health. uninformed and in many cases, stupid. They look to them as if they are gods.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Been researching this a ton! Have several friends and family fighting cancer. There is effective treatments using both of those. What I found is every person reacts different. Lots of variations of treatment and timing of when they start protocols. Very interesting.

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rolandttg's avatar

Please make the as simple as possible . Have everyone who has cancer buy Bob Wright's "Killing Cancer , not People" , and have them use that as their bible to put their cancer in remission. I have said this over and over on this site. Cancer is not a death sentence if you know how to treat it, unless you do slash burn poison instead. That is a death sentence.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

absolutely Roland, intention and overall lifestyle and mindset are everything when it comes to healing, right?

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AngelaK's avatar

But you cant just sit home and self medicate unless you are doing hospice.

Dont you have to be under some physician's care?

And what about insurance?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

You can sit at home and do whatever you want to treat yourself. Without being on hospice. Nobody HAS to be under the care of a physician.

So much information out about cancer and ways to heal your body without ever doing chemo and radiation.

You can find a doc that’s willing to help you heal naturally and monitor your blood work or do scans as needed. It takes time to find the right doc that’s not bought and paid for by big pHarma… but they are out there.

Insurance won’t pay for natural or holistic treatment plans so there is an investment, yes. How much depends on what you are choosing for your healthcare treatments. Ivermectin and Fenbendazole are relatively cheap and other supplements are as well. And insurance will usually still pay for blood work and scans and doctor visits even if you aren’t doing pHarma treatments.

It just takes a lot of research - elbow grease - but it can be done. Lots of websites, telegram pages, fb pages of people doing this exact thing.

Check out the naturalhealthlibrary for one place if you are interested. One of many though.

It’s time to take our health back from overpaid pHarma robots.

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rolandttg's avatar

spot on. All we did for the first 7 months was read cancer books and listen to cancer podcast. All in. And it worked.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Brilliant! Amen. And thank you for posting as well! Really, really important to read outcomes from folks. I suspect, which was 𝒏𝒐𝒕 the case for my sister who deferred to allopathic medicine and did not survive, there was a resounding inner belief as you took to the road. Was that so? If you're moved to respond. Nothing beyond a humble request. I'm convinced that epigenetics is the springboard to a new paradigm for healing. (ref. Bruce Lipton, PhD, 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐵𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝐵𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑓)

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AngelaK's avatar

Thank you. Wish I would have tried this with my mom in my house doing hospice, but seriously it was all so overwhelming..the system, hospice, everything. and she was old. Has anyone been cured?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

It is overwhelming. I have not had anyone I personally know be cured but only a couple are just now trying. There are a lot of people on the many websites attesting to being cancer free having done it naturally w/o pHarma. There are people on here in C&C also in process and post natural treatments with excellent results. So YES is the answer to your question.

I’m diving in for the people around me battling and in case I need to know someday for me personally or in my immediate family. Doing preventative practices and gaining knowledge to be prepared and prevent.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

All true. Thank you for posting.

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STH's avatar

Some people in my cancer groups throw everything at it conventional and alternative and just don’t tell their doctors. 😉

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rolandttg's avatar

If you can't tell your doctors, doesn't that tell you all you need to know about their voodoo treatments?

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

That's amazing Sunny! Have you looked into light, specifically infrared sauna? (increases a 2nd more potent type of melatonin - subcellular)

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Kat D's avatar

Are you saying the sauna increases the chance of melanoma?

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

no melatonin, it fights melanoma. here's some info:

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/emfsauna

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Kat D's avatar

Thank you! I just purchased a IFR body wrap

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

Not to mention chlorine dioxide (MMS) as a cancer treatment. No wonder it is called The Universal Antidote.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Do you have a source of how to use chlorine dioxide? I can no longer search it. I need to find some sources to research it more.

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

You can get the free download of the PDF book https://www.heartmindhealing.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/MMS-Jim-Humble-book.pdf

Also there are channels on Telegram devoted to the subject. Search The Universal Antidote. I actually give it to my 16 year old pug everyday in her raw meat diet and it saved her, I believe, when she was going downhill quickly. I have used it myself for various ailments, and even use it as a deoderant spray, if you can believe that.

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Peace's avatar

MMS as a deodorant spray? Yes, I believe all sorts of things these days:) Do you concoct your own?

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Yes, per the protocol, using 20 drops each of the sodium chlorite and the acid activator to 100 ml of distilled water, this is my recollection. Use a dark glass bottle to store.

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mm's avatar

There’s a Telegram channel with a lot of information. https://theuniversalantidote.com/

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P Flournoy's avatar

I looked at the Telegram channel, but it looks a little sketchy. Is this a supplement?

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EverybodyDuck's avatar

It’s legit. It can be intimidating at first. Watch the universal antidote link mm provided above. I followed the video course several times. I used to buy it pre-made at first, now I make it myself. Stuff is great for for many things. The Telegram channel has some really helpful advice.

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devoalan's avatar

I bought a gallon, made in Tampa.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

A lot of stomach cancers exacerbated by EMF, as people hold their phones/tablets on the toilet or right in that area, radiofrequency vibrates the cells and is extremely aggressive in dehydrating organs of the oxygen they need to fight off cancer:

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/why-cancer-is-an-electrical-illness

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rolandttg's avatar

Yeah, I saw somebody coming out go the shitter cuddling his phone yesterday act the gym. Just shook my head.

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Peace's avatar

Do you have EMF rememdiating companies to recommend products? (lap covers, wireless earbuds) I have earbuds from Defendershield but they are too big for my ears and won't stay put.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Are those hollow tubes or wires?

Phones always radiate, even when on airplane mode there is a residual current. Sorry for the bad news ):

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Peace's avatar

hollow tubes from Defender Shield

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Good question Peace, were you asking me? Honestly I don't recommend any of these products, as most don't work. I like to ground from the inside out, drinking zeolite powder, diatomaceous earth, which helps with sustaining body voltage by structuring cellular water.

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/water-insulates-emf

There is one company that I like, that has shown some results in Switzerland, called biogeometry by Ibrahim Karim.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thanks for this Sharing. FYI I write for CHD canada...here's an artice on airpods:

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/how-airpods-cause-brain-damage

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NinaG's avatar

It’s crazy how many people at the gym wear pods. They are all young and dumb…getting dumber by the minute.

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They forget too - that Arnold and the whole gym movement was started outside, as old school bodybuilders lifted barefoot, and ate egg yolks. Now they eat egg whites and wear rubber soles.

Those airpods also emit RF out 100 meters so don't spend too much time in that gym Nina (:

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Nice! Thanks so much for caring, and for your support.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Read a substack article called “Patient Zero Comes Back From Stage Four Cancer:Was it Ivermectin”. (I’m sorry I don’t know how to link articles. Technologically challenged but I’m still a critical thinker with the God given gift of discernment for truth!)

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Robin Greer's avatar

I personally know of a woman who cured her father's "terminal cancer" with Ivermectin.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Excellent! Thank you!

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

I’ve read same about ivermectin and Fenben. I’m confident no establishment is studying. No money to be made. So.

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Michael Framson's avatar

It is being studied. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36578038/

The question you are asking, when will these approaches be a standard of care, that patients bring to their doctors. It will happen.

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If I was diagnosed with cancer I would be more likely to try unconventional treatment than the toxic course of chemo and radiation given now. I have 2 unvaxxed sisters recently diagnosed with breast cancer…one is a smoker the other is not…and both have been subjected to chemo and radiation with the quality of their lives greatly diminished. I gently suggested unconventional treatments but both were following their doctors advice. We have no family history and neither of their cancers were genetic. I think there are all kinds of products that are carcinogens as well as possibly our air and water supply.

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👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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STH's avatar

Of course not! I read success stories every day in a fb Fenbendozole group- mycancerstory.rocks

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Fred's avatar

No, but I did learn recently that Shawn Baker MD of Revero Company is studying whether the elevated lipids on carnivore diet have an adverse effect on cardiac health. Guessing no, but no data yet. (IDntK who he was; Ortho doc stepped away from 💰replacing joints to focus on reducing inflammation.)

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Robin Greer's avatar

"Treating" cancer is big business. $$$$

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rolandttg's avatar

What have you been smoking? My wife swears fenben cured her cancer, even though we have done dozens of other things after starting the Fenben protocol

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Kat D's avatar

It’s supposed to enhance the treatment not cute it on it’s own.

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162.550's avatar

"I bet you too can feel the culture shifting."

My buddy's wife initially had him changing clothes in the garage before entering the house. He told me not to tell her if we went to grab lunch or anything where we were around people. They were vaxxed 3x and all of them got covid. That did it and now they are riding with me, the pureblood! No more shots and they are righteously pissed at Pharma.

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Canny Granny's avatar

But not the government?

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162.550's avatar

I had obtained ivermectin very early in the psy op and told them I would use it for covid. They were "FDA hee haw" skeptical of my plan. Then their Dr offered them ivermectin or paxlovid. That made them realize that ivermectin worked all along. They now have no trust in the FDA or CDC.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

DoD run operation.

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Canny Granny's avatar

Exactly and people don’t get it. Pharma can’t force anyone to take anything. Dod did the research and paid pharma to make the vaccines. FDA approved them. CDC said they’d save us. All government and people are still focused on Pharma.

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Fine point: the "vaccine" products were never approved by FDA. Not the original ones, not any of the new and newer "booster" products.

Yes, DOD was the contracting party to have the products made. The Other Transaction Authority (OTA) under which the products were contracted for obviated the need for clinical trials, the FDA (agency under department of HHS) requirement for new biologically active products/drugs. FDA/HHS was out of the contractual loop. Neither had any official administrative role to play. Clinical trials, such as they were, reference Brook Jackson's story, were theater for the public mind.

Pfizer, through BioNTech, produced a second product brand named Comirnaty that they wanted licensed for interstate commerce. This *did* require FDA approval, which they got, but the product was never and has never been manufactured for distribution. Comirnaty, per se, was not ordered by DOD. It had to go through the regular drug development channels. Supposedly it is the same product as the unapproved BNT162b2 which has only ever been authorized under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). But who knows? We still don't know what's in the EUA products. Comirnaty, as all drug products that go through the regular channels, has to have detailed info on ingredients, MOA, AEs, contraindications, etc, published and available.

The shell game has generated confusion, as intended. If you thought, "FDA approved them," well, the game worked. Sasha Latypova is the bright light that educated me and I dare say the world with respect to the origins of these DOD products, which, since they are DOD-ordered products cannot formally be considered drugs; that distinction belongs to products that have to go through regulatory channels via FDA. The DOD products are called "countermeasures" in the contracts. They're defense products. Not drugs, countermeasures. Does nefarious cover it?

Apologies for length but no apologies for sharing the education. The more we understand, the better we see.

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Canny Granny's avatar

I know they are countermeasures. I know about the bait and switch with FDA. You’re preaching to the choir.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Not surprising. Thus another fine point. When folks read "FDA approved them" likely they take such at face value. How many times have I/we read something similar? Repeated reading of the same - especially when written from outside the choir - imo, creates a false impression. Some don't even know DOD was involved &c. Too much on the fine points maybe. Only aiming for accuracy in the telling. Thanks for your patience and indulgence with my exposition on details.

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FourWinds's avatar

I do the clothes thing (yep, TMI) but it is because I had bed bugs in 2012 after a friend brought them in and I am NEVER going through that nightmare again. Never heard of someone changing clothes in the garage because of a "virus". Considering what I still do 13+ years later, I'm in no place to make fun of it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I knew someone who sprayed all her packages with Lysol spray during covid.

And when she would go for a walk outside, she wore a N95 and a face shield.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Yep. My nutjob niece. Quarantined groceries in the garage for a week. After 2 years of self-imposed lockdown, finally took daughter to the park but wouldn't let her play with other kids. If they went out, a full shower upon returning home, INCLUDING shampoo. Sprayed every package, every delivery. Yikes!

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So a young family I know (2 toddlers), dad "tested positive" for "COVID" so lived for a week in their finished basement. Toddler (no symptoms) "tested positive" so no day care for 10 days. She never got sick BTW but they say she had COVID. But here's the clincher...my friend, their GRANDPA (68) unvaxed was asked to come over to help with the toddlers!! He went because he's not afraid of getting sick, but WHY if they believe this corona virus is so deadly, would they ask him to do this?? Does this make ANY SENSE?

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FourWinds's avatar

No, it does not make any sense at all. Nothing these brainwashed people do makes any sense.

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AJF's avatar

Clearly!

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Margaret Allison's avatar

That is so sad! What a life. Seeing people in masks now makes me so sad. We lived our lives! Elderly early shopping hours? Oh no! We stopped! What is retirement for? My husband has health issues but not vaccine related! 1935er! We all have issues as we age. My Mom is 98 and survived whatever assisted living gave her and with my sister now. So sad people didn’t see through this one.

I have to admit I used to believe what healthcare said because I did 45 years caring for people and helping them get well. But this made me so sad! It didn’t fit the real healthcare picture!! I can’t say it enough! I am just glad we didn’t fall for all the mandates and restrictions!

Since I’m on this string, for the record, N95 masks are to protect against TB! We had to be perfectly fitted for them! Required!! Thanks Jeff for a place to read truth and feel comfortable knowing you are willing to push back for us.

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FourWinds's avatar

Oh wow, just wow. What a chemical sh!tstorm all over her stuff.

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Datagal's avatar

Ok, my husband would microwave the mail to kill possible germs during the early days of covid. Top that!

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

When it first came out, we didn’t have enough protective clothing. I was working at hospice, still am. So to protect our loved ones, we changed in the garage. Because we believed the psyop. However, never believed the jab psyop. Never will believe them again.

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L1's avatar

Glad to hear your “Never Again”. It’s what we are all counting on for whatever they cook up next.

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162.550's avatar

Yikes, man I stayed at an airbnb this weekend in Orlando and that bed bug issue was on my mind.

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I have a friend who is allergic to bedbug bites so she got her dog certified as a bedbug sniffer. So many places would hire her, sometimes on contract... Thrift stores, movie theaters, hotels, university campuses, rental furniture companies (especially at end of school year).

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FourWinds's avatar

I should have bought stock in Hefty, that's for sure. Now when I travel, every single thing I bring is in a plastic zipper bag. Dirty clothes go in a different one. I never keep shoes (except flip flops) out in any hotel. The last thing I do before walking out of the hotel is to put on bagged, fresh clothes. When I get home, all clothes go into the dryer (they are dry) and go on high for about 30-40 minutes. I'm not getting bugs again. So far this has worked. I just take the minimum in, keep everything bagged and sealed, and heat treat everything when I get home. I am so used to doing it now that it is second nature. Got rid of the suitcases years ago. Plastic bags (and throw away grocery bags) work fine to carry stuff in and out in. I don't care what people think, and if they ask why, I tell them.

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Thanks for that protocol. It's easy enough to follow and Florida hotels/airbnb's definitely see a lot of turnover.

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Jade Dixon's avatar

I did the clothes thing before 2020 after I got home from visiting family in the hospital. I know a person who beat cancer and died from hospital acquired MRSA. I refer to hospitals as MRSA factories.

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Frieda Spyder's avatar

I grew up allergic to mosquitoes, and had bad reaction to the few bed bug bites I've had. It was a traumatic experience having them, and dealing with it.

I'm too triggered even now to watch this video.

"Bed Bugs- What You've Been Told is Totally False" - https://youtu.be/2JAOTJxYqh8

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FourWinds's avatar

I don't want to say anything upsetting here... I get it. I'll leave my details out, but suffice to say I had horrible reactions to being bitten on my face. The rest of my body was annoying, but my face caused real medical issues. Yes, I understand the trauma. Sorry you had to deal with them as well. It's a nightmare.

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Frieda Spyder's avatar

Thanks for being so considerate. I feel for you too. Anything around the face is especially unpleasant.

It was weird how I would often get bit three times, and bad welts. Luckily, we caught them pretty quickly. I'm not too bad now, as it's been 6-7 years. And I don't need to sleep with a flashlight anymore, lol.

Cheers.

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FourWinds's avatar

I am so glad you are past that time and no more flashlight! :)

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Frieda Spyder's avatar

Thanks you're sweet. And you have some thought provoking posts too. Cheers.

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Blair's avatar

I knew numerous people in this category. The psyop fear campaign literally broke their brains.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

So many weak fearful people fell for the PsyOp. I tried warning people but they believed the government over me. Maybe they will listen to me next time. 😉

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Flavia's avatar

So I posted on here about my EOD bud who died in his sleep about 2 weeks ago. Barely 50. Welp, here to report that another friend fell, developed a clot and will b taken off life support today... she's 38 u guys. 38 and has a 12 year old daughter. We have zero regrets about not taking that shot. Her name is Anya https://gofund.me/21b8032a

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FourWinds's avatar

Just too young. I am sorry. I can't imagine being 12 and losing my mom.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Will pray for their circle of family and friends today. Praying for knowledge of the great goodness of God thru Jesus the Christ.

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Nicki's avatar

I’m so sorry for your, and her daughter’s, loss. Blessings on her as she crosses.

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Beth Bart's avatar

Oh boy… how awful 🥲

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Heartbreaking. I recently mentioned a GoFundMe for LayCee Houghton Barnett from Utah, a 29 year old woman who recently died of acute myeloid leukemia. She was diagnosed on a Sunday and died the next day. She leaves behind a wonderful husband and adorable 2 year old twin girls. If I knew how to share the link to donate I would do so but if you want to help this young family go to GoFundMe and just put in her name.

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L1's avatar

I’m so sorry for your losses.

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AJF's avatar

😢

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WP William's avatar

Why Isn't Pharma NOT demanding 100% vaxxinations for the 12 million asylum seeking migrating underhoused persons entering the country?? They'd be seeing stocks double....yet silence and NO push for it at all...Hmmmm. YET in DENVER, the "free" care that Local hospitals are giving asylum seeking children (trafficked foreign kids) ,and everyone else they can are calling for the good Dem Progressive Nation-Hating tearful weak citizens to demand our representatives get them $$$$ for re-imbursement and to ensure shortages and consequences don't occur?!! WTF you dumb ass systemically racist doctors, wouldn't (if YOU even knew what honesty was) want this all done at the BORDER by the FEDS rather than allow all manner of problems be trafficked into our states and your communities!? Go neuter yourselves, you weak feminized excuses of Medical Malpracticing maleness, i'll Go Fund your Reproductive Systems Re-Assignment surgeries to make your exteriors match your estrogenized Marxist brains. DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS don't need to bother leaving home to care for the world's sick and injured--bring them by the busload to their doorsteps.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

12 million illegal aliens.

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CStone's avatar

12 million invaders.

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WP William's avatar

Too stigmatizing; repeat after my NPR-programmed mind These are underwelcomed guests, job-seekers experiencing homelessness, Democracy seeking Masses, Asylum Rights-demanding exploited victims, Victims of Global Over-use of Fossil Fuels... C'mon get creative! otherwise You're an Anti-American MAGA semi-fascist, White Nationalist Racist Xenophobe (even if you're a legal immigrant of color or a BlackDem Liberal who is off-put by Biden who ain't really Black enough).

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MoM's avatar

Climate change flee-ers 😂😂😂

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Fred's avatar

Thanks for the necessary correction! Haven’t seen a single person who looks like an asylum seeker in the entire Southwest.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Replacement theory in action. Get rid of the overpaid, resource-hogging palefaced middle class and replace it with compliant undereducated workers: That seems to be the elites' modus operandi.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Workers??? They seem to be handed everything from housing, food, cellphones, flights to their destination and ID’s with no mention of jobs. Does anyone really think they’re here to work?? Get real! They’re forming sleeper cells to cause chaos and destruction this year!

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Soldiers. Not for us—but potentially against us.

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AB's avatar

This! Ugh

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Blair's avatar

They're also more compliant. They will not question authority especially if given the opportunity to "serve" in the military and get bread crumbs from the government. Whatever they recieve from Big Brother will be better than what they received in their former countries. This is why they forced vaccination on the military. They wanted to weed out those who wouldn't comply with such orders. They want people who will comply no matter what they're told to do. They also don't require illegal immigrants to get the Covid vaccine, but Americans had to do so just to keep their jobs. But I'm sure, that's just a coincidence. 🤡

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AJF's avatar

Have you watched Bret Weinstein on Tucker?

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Blair's avatar

I have not watched the interview yet. I'll have to do so later today.

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AJF's avatar

I have to say Blair, it shook me to my core! He traveled to the Darian Gap (sp?) and his observations are chilling!😳

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Del Bigtree had Michael Yon on his program last week - very disturbing on the Darien Gap.

https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/behind-the-border-crisis-with-michael-yon/

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KBB's avatar

This video of the entire illegal alien trail from Ecuador to Texas is equally chilling.

https://www.muckraker.com/articles/united-states-invasion-route-exposed/

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Paula Weiss's avatar

Reading about the largesse being given to the illegal aliens (free motel housing, everything from airplane tickets to diapers and ER treatment), and the entitlement attitude that follows, I'm not sure. If any came here with motivation to work and better themselves, our government seems to be doing its best to kill their work ethic and make them dependent.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Good point, making them dependent. Can't have anyone striving for a better life, now can we.

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Paula Weiss's avatar

The migrants' job is to be around when the next census is taken, and to count as population. The Dems miscalculated by assuming they'd stay in Texas and other reddish states instead of going to already blue sanctuaries. The next president needs to evict them well before the counting starts.

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

Well for sure because as Nancy Pelosi said…”who’s going to pick our crops” 🤦‍♀️ goodness Nancy, really? 🤔 hmmm

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Roger Beal's avatar

Pelosi also - famously - asked who would clean our swimming pools, without plentiful cheap migrant labor.

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devoalan's avatar

Obviously we now know who she’s hiring to clean her pool. God help her, her son couldn’t do it.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Yep. But if you come legally it's a different song and dance.

To Get US Residency Requires the Covid Jab ⋆ Brownstone Institute

https://brownstone.org/articles/to-get-us-residency-requires-the-covid-jab/

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Canny Granny's avatar

Our government is the one who demands, not pharma.

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Cindi's avatar

But Pharma pulls politician/government strings w/ campaign cash, Canny Granny

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Canny Granny's avatar

All the gain of function and the “cure” (lol) is the department of defense. Yes, each drug company makes lots of money paying for advertising and influencing Congress and FDA, CDC, etc, but it’s our government who has done this to us.

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Canny Granny's avatar

It’s our government.

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Cindi's avatar

There is plenty of blame (& punishment in a just world but that isn’t where we are) to go ‘round, for sure

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STH's avatar

And again I BLAME THE DOCTORS! None of this would have happened had they all spoken up. I expect the 3 letter agencies to be corrupt!

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Neil Kellen's avatar

wow...hadn't thought of that...but killing so many hispanics would be racist, wouldn't it? Oh no, wait, it would be genocide, right? no...it would be supremacist....

I don't know exactly what it would be, but it would be frowned up by the elites.

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devoalan's avatar

Not sure how many Hispanics are left south of us to come. Pretty sure the trash that’s coming now is the dark browns from places like Africa, middle east, and islanders. Ready the catapults, let their last memory be flying through the air.

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rolandttg's avatar

Most of them are our replacement population , and the rest are Chinese military. Brett Weinstein said the Chinese did not receive MRNa jabs.

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FreeBird07's avatar

Del Bigtree had Michael Yon on his program last week - VERY DISTURBING on the Darien Gap.

https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/behind-the-border-crisis-with-michael-yon/

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KBB's avatar

This video following the entire illegal alien trail from Ecuador to the Texas border is equally chilling.

https://www.muckraker.com/articles/united-states-invasion-route-exposed/

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Mom of 5's avatar

That interview was TERRIFYING.

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shayne's avatar

Can't have these foreign armies, spreading out through this nation, keeling over with cancers and other maladies as they take over for their foreign masters. (Sar for the Portlanders)

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JW's avatar

Maybe because if the immigrants enter and spread disease here, diseases which have been eradicated in our population then, their goals of democrat votes increase along with a significant reduction in our vulnerable population count and also a huge money grab for big pharma.

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WP William's avatar

invest in crematorium and body-composting companies, and potential mass grave real estate

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STH's avatar

If I get the measles so be it. I’ll take my vitamin A and take my chances.

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RU's avatar

Because the CCP is using the migration as cover for moving 1000s of military aged men into the US. And someone within the US government or Rx (though I repeat myself) is in on it.

Covid was just an excuse to inject people with the mRNA. 3+ shots of mRNA and your immune system is toast. All it will take is a new virus released to knock off a ton of people, including many who had shots mandated on them like police, military, firefighters, EMT, hospital workers. CCP used the non-mRNA shots on their people. Tucker's latest interview with Brett Weinstein lays most of this out. They don't say the conclusions outright, but they certainly do imply them strongly. Basically, we've been attacked, we're being invaded, and the second wave is coming.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Apparently, the figure is closer to 22 million and growing.

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WP William's avatar

Repent America your END is NEAR

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I moved to CO from FL in 2015…w my two progressive adult daughters. One is now solidly conservative, and the other a centrist. Both now considering a move back to FL w their respective partners (one hubby and one soon-to-be hubby). Smart girls…and yes, mom will follow!

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AJF's avatar

Have you watched Bret Weinstein on Tucker? A must watch...

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cat's avatar

This! That is a HUMONGOUS red flag that this was all a psy op against the citizens of the US.

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SB's avatar

I know! They could use up a lot of surplus shots paid for by taxpayers. The govt has a contract with pharma for those shots for years. Use ‘em up!

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STH's avatar

Luckily TB is not as contagious as a cold

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GG's avatar

I hope a great reckoning is imminent, but I'm also afraid. So many people have done so many despicable things. So many people have been damaged and are furious.

Buckle up, Buttercup. This year is shaping up to be a humdinger!

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Jacquie's avatar

Hopefully the pendulum is finally swinging back to sanity.

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Gary T's avatar

May I ask what you are afraid of? Yes, people did bad things, maybe the worst that has ever been done, for a few reasons, but I don't fear them facing retribution? Are you afraid for what I hope they face or for society after a bunch of 'experts' and 'elites' are gone? Or???

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Datagal's avatar

I’m afraid something big is going to happen to prevent or affect the US 2024 election. Like Fred says, those illegals- including many young fighting age Chinese, unvaccinated males- are not here just for votes, people.

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Gary T's avatar

I share that fear. I can't imagine they were stupid enough to make the push for all the woke policies without knowing that there was some way to prevent a non-rino Rep from being able to win an election again. I can imagine many sinister plots they could unleash since they have control of FBI, DOJ, CIA, ATF, ICE, IRS, NSA and MSM, to name a few. Adding to that, a Trojan horse attack by some of the millions of invaders across the southern border would have seemed implausible to me a few years ago, but now seems like part of the plan.

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Fred's avatar

Two tiered justice system is one…

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Fred's avatar

And about 20 million illegals…it’s not just for the votes, peeps.

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Sharon Wood's avatar

But will the Globalist monsters let us be and let the customary practice for PEOPLE to obtain their justice against the perpetrators??? All those Soros funded DAs, big pharma & govt lackeys, Drs. who went along....

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devoalan's avatar

Imagine if we do get the revolution started. Are going to hunt your liberal progretarded neighbors or will you go for the heads? I know how I will approach it.

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STH's avatar

Don’t be afraid! If you’re living your like in constant fear, what a waste of time, and you’ve let them win. Don’t let them win!

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GG's avatar

I don't live my life in fear. My gears are constantly turning though. I observe and thoughts pop up about what I observe. There are some really, really angry people out there right now. They have every right to be angry. They have every right to desire retribution and vengeance. I just think retribution and vengeance are better carried out in the cold light of day rather than the heat of passion.

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oops, I meant to post that as a reply to GG's comment. The comments keep moving around in rank as I type:

May I ask what you are afraid of? Yes, people did bad things, maybe the worst that has ever been done, for a few reasons, but I don't fear them facing retribution? Are you afraid for what I hope they face or for society after a bunch of 'experts' and 'elites' are gone? Or???

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GG's avatar

I'm afraid of lack of restraint, from either side. One side seems to want to punish people who haven't done anything actionable and are carrying out their plans. That scares me. The likely response to such injustice scares me as well. We have abandoned the rule of law and the restraints imposed by the Constitution. We have abandoned our religious and moral foundation and the restraints they imposed.

Don't misunderstand me; I believe there are a lot of people who have bad things coming to them and they deserve it. I just worry about the carnage that will ensue now that we've destroyed our guardrails.

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Gary T's avatar

Well, then you are afraid of what I want to happen. If you are worried about what happens to the people that inflicted this (I don't even know a word that describes how bad this has been) upon us, then I am now afraid of you. Will you report the people that want to prevent additional tyranny? I hope you demonstrate as much tolerance for those that do have the balls to defend your life and mine against the tyrants as you have for the past few years and do nothing. But, after reading some posts I have lost all confidence in humans, the tyranny will continue, you will accept whatever 'they' say for fear of being responsible enough to face scrutiny over defending yourself and the ones you love?

I often wondered how/why women from history would accept the men of raiding armies as husbands and then raise the invaders children while providing a nice home for them after the raiders kill every man and boy(their own sons) in their community as well as destroy every bit of the women's ancestral culture? The past few years have taught me a lot about humans, none of it encouraging. In that sense, I hope feminism goes away like the concept of responsibility, I don't have the option of bearing children for 'experts' and 'elites' or the desire to care for them afterwards.

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GG's avatar

Who said I'm worried about what happens to the people that inflicted this? I believe I said, and I quote, "There are a lot of people who have bad things coming to them and they deserve it." I am worried about the good people who don't have any guardrails anymore. What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul?

I'm not sure why you seem to want to pick a fight with me. Most of the people on this blog aren't total jack wagons. I hope you're not the beginning of a new, horrible trend.

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GG's avatar

P.S. You are just the kind of person I'm worried about. You want no restraint. It makes you angry that anyone even brought it up.

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devoalan's avatar

You are exploding brains right now. And expect the Pooh Pooh class to go on the attack. Me, I’m taking names and getting saddresses.

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daverkb's avatar

Nail hit on the head square. People are manipulated by images and word magic. This triggers their emotional response. And then it is off to the races with all restraint out the window. Basically, the powers that be have abolished Law and replaced it by whim. And might as well, for example, call what is happening to DJT Whim Trials ... and predicated on lies.

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Alison Smith's avatar

My mom was vaxxed in spring of 2021 and kept getting the boosters. Fast forward to fall 2022, she was diagnosed with turbo stomach cancer, stage 4. She passed away March 2023.

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AnnR's avatar

Oh, I am SO sorry for your loss.

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CStone's avatar

A really good friend was dx’d with stomach cancer, died 3 weeks after being dx’d.

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AnnR's avatar

I'm so sorry.

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Alison Smith's avatar

😢

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Janet's avatar

So hard to lose your mother. My sympathies , Alison.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I think the hardest part of losing all these people is the knowledge that if they hadn’t “followed the science” they’d still be here. 😢

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Janet's avatar

I dread phone calls. My daughter and her family took them. Ok so far, but……😒

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Same, Janet.

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FourWinds's avatar

I am so very sorry.

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Deb's avatar

So very sorry.

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shayne's avatar

Very sorry you lost your mum, Alison. Heartbreaking that she left this world because of the dreadful vaccine.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Thank you. Worse is that she didn’t listen to me and wanted to be able to see my dad in the nursing home. But being vaccinated didn’t mean you automatically could visit.

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Beth Bart's avatar

Condolences 💐

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Heather Candy's avatar

💔

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Jamison's avatar

My sincere sympathies. ❤️🙏

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