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Arkansas Gov. Sarah H Sanders just announced Arkansas will ban COVID vax mandates for public employees and will publish ALL potential risks related to the vax.

Challenge thrown to all other states!

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So we're finally getting around to banning medical rape which is what a mandate is. Mandates are a fait accompli so now I guess it's safe to "ban" them. What I want to know is when are they going to ban the bio-weapon jab and criminalize it's administration?

Are you listening Gov DeSantis?

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I’d like to see that too!

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I think in order for us to see that, we as American's are going to have to get really serious about what's going on here. Getting online and "typing away" let's us feel good as if we're doing something, but ultimately, their plans still go unbothered.

I discuss this as the kettle pressure and by typing online, we're just letting off steam:

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/who-are-the-bad-guys-part-two#details

As we're still talking about COVID, I just wanted to remind everyone that: besides the vaccine that's still killing people, we did have policies that killed millions of people. Anyone remember that ventilators had a 43% death rate:

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-covid-19-protocols-killed-millions

As I said earlier, we need to come to terms with the fact that we're really witnessing menticide here. What are we going to do about it, is the question?

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You are asking a good question there, but I don't know if I have any answers. There are several problems - one is the powers that should never be are still pushing clot shots and the rest of the nonsense. Two is people believe them and at this point, I think they are a lost cause. Three, the media is satanic and will only push a narrative, so even if one wanted to protest or file actions, the chances of it getting covered are not good. Four, I think a lot of politicians from both parties are bought and paid for and are not standing up for the people. And five, having never been faced with this level of evil from our own government, most people don't know what to do. I'm one of those people.

At least for me, the only things I know how to do are not complying and not shutting up. I am vocal when I can be, even at work. I don't have a legal leg to stand on to sue the crap out of the people who killed my coworker with a vent, nor sue those who killed 3 family friends with the clot shots. But I can keep talking and not complying. Mother Theresa talked about not being able to do any great things but only small things with great love. These add up.

There is no doubt that this evil will all be exposed because evil ALWAYS overplays its hand. Until then, I think the best we can do is resist and try to teach others to do the same. But I'm also open to ideas, maybe someone has a great one.

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You summed it up pretty well.

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Reminder: don't use the word vaccine. It's not.

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I'm so old I recall when vaccine described a medication that gave you immunity from the disease. That was back in the day when men couldn't have babies yet and there were only 2 genders.

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Right on...

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The administration of remdesivir usually prefaced the vent (it was the only ‘approved’ medicine for Covid). Caused organ failure, particularly in the kidneys. Combined with a vent (who was that Queens’ Dr jumping up and down saying these patients needed ECMO, not vents as they displayed symptoms similar to altitude sickness?) these poor patients didn’t have a chance.

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Sorry to repost this, but our anger needs to escalate to absolute fury! It was known in 2017 that Remdesivir increased mortality when it was tried for Ebola. But hey, “let’s not let all those R&D $ go to waste. Let’s use it in C.”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1910993

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The Remdesivir caused liquid in the lungs>ventilators>💰…pure evil.

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Yes, they knew what they were doing. Money over health.

Greed over compassion.

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My MIL was one of these poor patients. No symptoms then soon dead. Remdesivir. "When death is near" But I'm sure it wasn't the meds. I'm sure it was her bad attitude or something.

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That's really terrible. And we haven't had any accountability yet. I'm hoping there will be a day of reckoning.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, Remdesivir and the vent - a one-two punch. If the first didn’t get you the second surely would. 😢

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My coworker was killed like that.

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Well, you are typing away... so... maybe doing and typing are not mutually exclusive Frank. Or are we only doing something if we are reading you?

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I think that finding likeminded people and brainstorming and sharing ideas here is very useful.

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While I do get frustrated with feeling that we are just talking I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think we are all at a loss as to what we need to do. If Frank has the answers we would all love to hear them.

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Indeed, speaking truth can never be worthless.

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Agreed!

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Definitely. Imagine what we’d have been spared if the covidians accepted that.

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We stopped a study into removing a main thoroughfare in our town and turning it into a park and affordable housing with emails, masses and masses of emails, to the swing vote on the city council. A group of us also showed up in person to speak against it, stayed to the bitter end (1:30 a.m.), and got the member who was pushing it to back down.

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Nice! If you don't balk at nonsense, the loons do as they please.

Our town council was trying to embrace open in the park drag shows. Uh, no! About 500 people showed up to the meeting about a permit for them to tell the council we are not at all down with the perversion and to tell them that some people who have tried to voice opposition to it have been harassed and threatened.

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Definitely not mutually exclusive. Besides, the keypad is mightier than the sword. Gotta win hearts and minds if we don't want more bloodshed.

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On the broadly related topic (excess deaths) here another substack:

https://thorsteinn.substack.com/p/vaccine-uptake-and-deaths-where-are

Blowing my own horn dept: I replied to this article. TL;DR: looking at only Florida excess deaths and assuming that all the excess in 2021 an 2022 are due to the vaxx, my answer was close, within a few %, of what Throsteinn reported for England. Of course, it is jumping to conclusions to some degree (that is, to assume that "extra" deaths since 2020 are due to vax adverse events). But if that is even partially true, then those apparently lunatic claims that the jabs have killed over a million in the USA alone, are well within the realm of the possible. Add in known and potential non-fatal injuries and it'd be many times the number of deaths.

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Where are the FL excess figures from?

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One of my friends watched their grandparent die in a hospital waiting room. Her grandfather had COVID and waited, as they’d been told, to not go to the hospital until it was really bad. (You know, because we’d tell someone to wait until they have Stage 4 cancer before seeking treatment.) They specifically told the medical staff no Remdesivir. A few minutes later, a nurse came along and administered Remdesivir. In seconds, their grandfather blew up (think the girl from Willy Wonka), turned purple, and died. She didn’t want to take them to the hospital because she knew they’d kill him, but he insisted.

You have to get involved in your local politics and the education of your children. It’s not fun. It’s dirty and makes you angry and frustrated, but we have to take our towns back one at a time. You’re up against a bunch of ideologues. There aren’t as many as regular people, but they are very vocal and very organized. They’ll have all of their friends from surrounding towns show up to make it seem like there’s more support than there actually is, so you’ll have to get all of your fellow town residents write emails to the city council, if they aren’t going to show up to meetings. But people should show up to meetings as much as possible. Meeting in person, telling them face to face makes a big difference. The reason so many city councils pulled what they did in CA is because so many went to Zoom meetings. A bunch of angry, involved residents online isn’t nearly as scary as a bunch of angry, involved residents in the same room as you. 😁

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Agreed Frank! Are we going to cut bait or fish?

3%, remember that.

Later Jay

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I agree too, but I have no good ideas on what to do. I would love to hear any suggestions, and I'm not being sarcastic. I truly don't know what to do other than stand my own ground.

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Learning, learning, and learning more can only be put to the good. God will call on each by name when the time comes. We have thus far been called to see the truth while others stumble on in darkness. Patience is claimed to be a virtue; by combining it with willingness, we can make ourselves fit and ready for service when the call to service sounds.

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We can work like hail to try to get each and every governor, mayor, president, congress person, city counsel person, neighborhood board of trustees... who voted for or stood silently by as our civil rights were taken, our family members were taken and we were treated like chattel OUT. And make sure they know why? You can support doctors that stuck their neck's out for us. You can donate for people who are punished for doing the right thing when Jeff asks. Go to a city council meeting, a school board meeting, neighborhood meeting.

Mitt Romney Snititurd from UT is not running again for the senate seat in UT. Why? Because he knows, despite every love letter he got from people like my neighbor for impeaching Trump, there is a mad horde of conservatives who will ensure that he is steel toe booted from office.

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https://open.substack.com/pub/michelchossudovsky/p/pfizer-secret-report-covid-vaccine-manslaughter?r=kyg16&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post

Posted today on Substack. FOI made Pfizer release Deaths/Harms and just the first two months of reports means they should have WITHDRAWN the toxic jabs.

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I wish I could say that I was surprised by the information, sadly I was not. Thanks so much for sharing.

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It appears to me that Gov DeSantis works through effective persuasion and factual information to get the Legislature to pass laws that are more durable than EOs. What do you find fault with in this? https://www.flgov.com/2023/01/17/governor-ron-desantis-announces-initiative-to-make-protections-from-covid-mandates-permanent-enact-new-protections-for-free-speech-for-medical-practitioners/

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To be honest, while I applaud everything that has been done, I do not see DeSantis doing anything to push the envelope. He's not proactive. There is no political risk in banning the mandates after they are already accomplished and over. Just on the face of it, mandates, both the lockdowns and the jabs, are by definition unconstitutional and as a lawyer he knows this, yet he went along. ALL mandates should have been vigorously opposed from the very first day. Even Gov Noem of SD (and Sweden) did not lock down at all. Yet DeSantis did and then he opened back up after it was politically safe to do so. When it became apparent the jab mandates were unpopular he did finally push to outlaw the jab mandate but again, after they were pretty much a fait accompli. I don't want to detract from that but still, that should have been loudly opposed from day one. Constitutional Rights ARE absolute regardless of what the Gov of NM says and they are NOT negotiable or subject to the political whims of the current political office holder. The Governor's job is to protect the citizens and uphold the law. The Constitutions of the US and of FL are bedrock law and they were not upheld.

I have not confirmed the following story but it appears that we have a serious problem with election integrity in FL and DeSantis is complicit in this out of political motivation. He needs to get back to FL and do the job we elected him to do. The following story is important not just to FL but to the whole nation. If our leaders cannot take a hard stand to defend our constitutional rights and protect the integrity of our elections then regardless of any theatrical grandstanding, they are simply enabling the Leftist overthrow of our way of life:

It looks like we have a serious problem with election fraud in FL. Read this link and then check out his substack for the backstory.

https://immutabletruthelections.substack.com/p/maga-judas-aka-michael-thompson-lee

Appearances can be deceiving.

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When was the vaccine mandated in FL? DeSantis isn’t some God with authority over every single entity in FL. I understand that healthcare had issues but he isn’t in charge of whether a hospital gets medicare $$ nor could he go against HHS mandates. I know businesses weren’t allowed to mandate it pretty early on.

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Many businesses, including all hospitals I know of, mandated the jab. The most accurate legal definition of mandating that a medical procedure be pushed into your body is medical rape. The hospitals also mandated "no early treatment" and then ONLY remdesivir and intubation as approved treatment, all three of which are medical death protocols.

By definition, any mandate is unconstitutional under both the FL and US constitutions, the foundational law of the land. The Governor has the obligation to defend the liberties of the citizens and to uphold the law. Constitutional liberties are absolute. The Governor should have been front and center right from the beginning fighting these mandates and the medical and financial rape of the American people, your excuses notwithstanding.

DeSantis is not God. He is the Governor who has taken an oath of office to uphold the Constitution and protect the citizens of FL. That is his duty.

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No he isn't. Remember,he's great for us, but in order to run for potus, we will be thrown right under the bus by this guy.

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Agree, RINOs control the Rep party....unless you are an independent candidate but he doesn't have the financial capability to be independent like Trump.

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Note that Sarah is fully jabbified.

Same for Kristy Noem.

Guess who didn't submit... Kari Lake.

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My husband and I are still stunned at our fellow conservatives who got jabbed. Most admit now they fell for the fear and wouldn't get it now knowing what they do. They told us we were smart to not get the clot shots. The biggest reason for getting it was of course fear but mostly because the trusted their doctors and the medical community. Many did not get their children jabbed. They did not like the mandates.

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I am on a private FB site for those with family hypercholesterol. A young woman under 35 posted today with lowish numbers fearing because she said that she sees that so many young 35 to 45 year olds dying from heart attacks due to high cholesterol lately.

Someone else and I told her that they are from the covid vaccines.

To be credible to the ignorant, I told her how even Fauci came out yesterday claiming that myocarditis is from the vaccine!

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I had someone tell my they though all of the kids have heart issues was from energy drinks....I said really,I heard is was the jab with something like an 130% increase since the jab started.....she looked at me and just stared.....

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Global warming, monster drinks... or the Death Jab.

Hmmm what could it be.

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5G....hmmm. Seriously, the coverup on all this stuff is mind-blowing,

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I hope the ‘oh crap’ wheels were turning in realization.

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I posted this the other day, but want to make sure you know it. I only say this because you said you are on a site for hypercholesterol. The absolute risk of having a heart attack because you have high blood pressure is 2 %. The absolute risk of having a heart attack if you then take statins is reduced to 1 %. That's an absolute reduction of 1 %, but a Relative reduction of 50 %. Guess which number doctors and Big Pharma tell you? Listened on Rush to a heart doctor years ago while driving , over a half hour. He said he had done over 3000 heart surgeries, and every single one had inflammation . He stressed cholesterol is not the problem, any more than high CO2 causes global warming. Statins are horrible drugs with a multitude of side effects, including Diabetes Type 2 and liver damage.

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I'm keto and my cholesterol numbers are a tad high, but I wasn't worried. I'd been to a keto convention and listened to the speakers there and knew I needed to look at ratios rather than static numbers. I had a doctor who head honcho in the local blood lipid society who gave me a full court press to take statins, despite my anecdotes about family and friends who had suffered greatly from them. He didn't believe me. I walked. Later on they contacted me and we talked, and it's in my charts there to never bring up statins again. I agree - the problem is inflammation. Cholesterol is not an issue as long as it can flow through the blood vessels. I had a very scary headache event and my CAT scans and MRIs showed zero percent deposits in my blood vessels, even after about ten years of fat/protein diet. As I told my friends, my arteries were "slicker'n a well oiled playground slide in July". Doctors don't know everything. (PS: I had what's called "thunderclap headaches" - a very intense, highly painful form of migraine that peaks (for me) almost instantaneously. It's a long story, but I think it was God's answer to a prayer. It kept me from getting jabbed. Thinking I was gonna die is a darn site better than the real thing.

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Blessings in disguise. They are not always readily discernable. Good for you recognizing it. Big one. A lottery jackpot win. The prize is life. Unjabbed life. ✊

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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened."--Winston Churchill

Later Jay

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Love it.

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Good luck if she believes it. But you tried. So kudos for you. 👏👍

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We need more studies like the PACE that shows saturated fat may not be the problem. Statins anyone?

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My ldl is very high no matter what I do. I avoided statins until I was 58 years old, since hormonal heart protection for women ends after the change.

.My father had a major heart attack at 45. Died from another at 55.

10mg statin lowered my ldl beautifully but I now stopped statins because in the 7th year of taking them, I developed peripheral neuropathy. Fortunately it is gone every time I went off to test it. My doctor and neurologists accept the cause but never suggested it could be from the statins. 😡 Thank goodness for my own google research.

My calcium score is 20 which the cardiologist says is not bad for a woman my age.

I dont know how to proceed when I see the cardiologist. ..Zetia?

The new injectables scare me.

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I suggest reading the book The Calcium Paradox and then reading the reviews for K4 on Amazon—either Carlson or Thorne brand. This may really help.

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Angela,

LDL causing heart disease is false. Statins are no good for you. They lead to diabetes and early Alzheimer’s. We NEED cholesterol for our bodies and our brains. I’m in the same argument with my PCP.

Women’s ‘heart issues’ stem from us being told we need calcium. If you’re taking calcium, throw it away. The American diet is over calcified. If you eat cheese and green leafy vegetables you have more than enough calcium. What we need is K2. D3 tells the calcium to go into the bones. K2 tells the calcium where it’s needed.

Your calcium score should be 0. I bet your doctor didn’t tell you how to get the calcium out of your heart.

K2 will help move the calcium out of where it is now to where to should go. Heart attacks do not happen from LDL cholesterol. They happen because plaque from calcium break off and get lodged where it shouldn’t be.

This is a great podcast on K2.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/339-vitamin-k2-and-the-calcium-paradox-everything/id1499760048?i=1000618968654

Dr. William Davis is fantastic. These are 2 phenomenon podcasts:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defiant-health-radio-with-dr-william-davis/id1591499942?i=1000590892434

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defiant-health-radio-with-dr-william-davis/id1591499942?i=1000622279728

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Dr Peter Attia does deep DEEP dives into cholesterol which is a very nuanced subject. ApoB and Liproprotein (a) are the most important things to be watching and plenty of non-political, non-pharmaceutical studies to back it all up. As a breast cancer survivor - tons of studies showing a low-dose statin reduces reoccurrence. I refused to get on statins for 5+ years until I read about that part myself! AngelaK - I already have some slight peripheral neuropathy that comes and goes from chemo so hard to tell if statins did anything - but so far no new symptoms!

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FH is important, and I think not just because of familial HC. I’m still on statins because for FHC, and it is pretty clear they reduce all cause mortality. I wish I had an answer.

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Remember, the body naturally produces cholesterol for a multitude of reasons. One I’ve heard (do your research before dismissing me) is that the body produces cholesterol to line arteries that have been scored by some toxin(s). I’ve read that fluoride is potentially one of them. It would make sense that the spike protein could be another. After enough protective cholesterol “coating” occurs, the occlusion/blockage is sufficient to bring on heart issues/attacks.

Food for thought.

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My LDL is not just what the medical cabal considers borderline high. It is pretty high without a statin, no matter what I do otherwise: 222!

Non HDL is 248.

I can read all the experts and books, but my doctor checks my blood every 3 months and has referred me to a cardiologist for alternate meds..(thank God, no heart issues though)🤷

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I fortunately do not suffer from FH. Does anyone in your FH group really believe that "high cholesterol" (more likely: abnormally high LDL) is a major issue with FH, or even heart disease in regular patients? I'm sure many sources of information exist. Of those I'm familiar with, I encourage you to read Malcolm Kendrick's books. The Great Cholesterol Con, A Statin Nation, and The Clot Thickens. FH appears mostly in the first two. There's a whole section in "Great" dealing specifically with FH.

“[D]o I think that FH can cause heart disease? In fact, I do. Although I believe that it is not nearly as deadly as most people believe.” Yes, victims of FH have a far higher risk of heart disease relate deaths earlier in life. But that is a RELATIVE risk. E.g. in healthy people, the chances of dying of heart disease (indeed, of any cause) in one’s 20s and 30s are very low. Even if that risk is multiplied manifold, in absolute terms it's still a relatively low incidence compared to old age. A second factor is that only tiny minorities of those who 'suffer' FH ever come to the attention of the medical system -- the worst-off cases. Many, perhaps the vast majority, appear to live fairly long, normal lives.

Kendrick has a free web site.

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/?s=Familial

Some of what's on the site has appeared in his books. I did a quick search for "Familial" and many articles come up. I've not read them, since I have no interest in the topic. But you might.

I reiterate that surely Kendrick probably isn't the only writer on these topics. But he does seem credible. I've looked up many of the studies he cites, and they usually say what he claims they did.

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Statins have an anti inflammatory effect, possibly just as important as the lipid effects. I need to read more…

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I cant tolerate statins anymore, so I am pondering what course to take now? Injectable meds scare me..I am wondering about zetia.

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Thank you. I will read them.

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Just did. He is talking about the new injectables..super expensive in the thousands, but now covered by medicare.

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Do you follow Dr David Diamond?

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Annie, same here. So many fellow conservatives (including ALL of my family members except me) got the jab. When I asked why did they did it....main reply was "It's just easier". Since when is life EASY?!! Also so that they could travel. oh brother.... I pray for them daily.

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The reasons given to me were: "I got it so I could live again." Or "My doctor recommended it." Or "I need it to travel or work." Etc. Well how is that working out for them now? At a Republican party meeting a year ago I said that if everyone here had stood strong the outcome would have been different. Y'all caved with little or no thought and your children are paying the ultimate price with masking, lockdowns and loss of their innocence. It's harsh but the truth.

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No. It’s not harsh. I ran into a former coworker I haven’t seen in three years, yesterday at Costco. I said, “I don’t think you realize what happened. I lost my job because I didn’t test/jab. So many others were fired as well (going into details).”

His response? NOTHING...like nothing happened. I’m still floored by it. But, he did tell me about his trip to Paris, his daughter graduating from UCLA, his golf game, etc.

Huh? Did I miss something? Bueller???? Absolute insanity.

God bless these people and strengthen me Jesus.

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Re: NOTHING response. I was able to get a religious exemption but I still am being asked to fill out a covid survey every week to get tested if I'm going to the office. Which I now ignore, but it's a constant reminder of their threat and discrimination every week. What baffles me is that no vaxxed person has extended any kind of compassion or expression of 'I'm sorry this happened, it was wrong of them to threaten your job', instead it's oh you got an exemption quit whining.

Yes, I did get the exemption but it put me through alot of stress and left me very bitter and violated. What I wrote on my exemption is frankly non of HRs business and then I have to take all these HR classes on 'inclusion',, talk about hypocrits.

Anyway, I'm sorry you lost your job, it was all so very wrong. Sending you love, light and positive thoughts.

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Ball's Deluxe Renee Marie!

Later Jay

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The one big upside is we don't have to worry.

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"We did it so we could travel" "I needed it for my job". So I'm just asking, as a Christian who believes my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit: is travel, job, virtue signaling, doing my part an idol or a lack of faith in God's protection? Where is the discernment or weighing in on the consequences - of anything? Sign me grieved at the outcome of the scamdemic so far. Hard truths, I'm glad you put that message out at the meeting. Thank you!

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Your welcome. It needed to be said. It also made me realize I am surrounded by rinos or conservative-lite people. If it just affected me I would not be so upset about it. But this affects my children and their future. So I am not backing down.

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one person I know who took the vaccine for work and travel took the J&J single dose. He has not taken anything else since then

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My brother, under threat of his daughter to not see the new baby, caved and got the JJ. He got strange blood clots in hemorrhoid area. Everyone brushed it off as its just hemorrhoids. He told me this was NOT just your standard hemorrhoid, it was very unnatural and unique.

Needless to say, he didn't take anymore. His bil, is a prominent GI Dr in Boston , who threatened he wasn't allowed to visit them at home in Nantucket without a booster. He now has pancreatic cancer. I know 4 people in my immediate circle who have pancreatic cancer....

One of my work associates got the JJ. She had such bad migraine she was out for a month.

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Same with J&J, my son and three friends all caved and got 1. All are fine so far. Hopefully it stays that way. My theory is it wasn’t deadly enough so they pulled it.

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Same here. He and his wife did. They flat out refuse to get their children vaxxed.

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Like I said yesterday, the lazy index is off the charts in this country, not just in work, but in every aspect of people's life.

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My wife took the first two doses back three years ago on the recommendation from our oncologist. Thing is, we both have blood disorders. Thankfully she's been fine, and I refused. I'm pretty sure I'd be dead or fettetmanned by now. I have essential thrombocythemia. So yeah, the clot shot would have killed me.

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"fettetmanned" better trademark that one.

Later Jay

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Glad you dodge that mess. Hopefully your wife keeps her health up with no issues. 🙏

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I’d really encourage getting her on the clearing protocol. At minimum NAC, Vit D, Vit C, and black seed oil.

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My money is on fear. Fear porn is going to be our undoing. You can bet that some entity is working on the next big thing, -perceived or real, right now.

Later Jay

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This is a very accurate statement. We weren't paying attention early enough to catch the psyop and unfortunately trusted the medical community at the time, which we greatly regret. But it was the mandates that woke me up - just like you said. When have they ever tried to force us like that? And you could see with your own two eyes that it wasn't stopping the spread so that threw that argument right out the window. I realized if they were trying to force us it could only be due to nefarious reasons. And the fact that they were trying to push it on kids, who have basically zero risk from covid was the other huge eye opener. Those two things alone should've woken everybody up to the con.

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Same here.

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Those two got jabbed? well that's a bit of a.m. sadness.

If only Trump (also jabbed) would just come out and say - see these people... these masses of people in the government - the lying liars, the deceitful, Machiavellian animals, I was duped, but no more! then roll the treatment options video where he said "try ivermectin and HCQ" etc. Our trusted experts in the government - all lying wolves. I know now the depth of evil. Let's root it out!

But no. Such foolishness out of a man who did such good. Who they hate. It should be the strongest indicator that he is for us.

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The problem with the “he was duped” theory is it doesn’t excuse his dictatorial actions. A principled man would have refused to do unconstitutional lockdowns, whether he believed they would make a difference or not. A principled man would not have demanded a bill handing over millions to the most corrupt corporations in existence. A principled man would have refused to sign a bill paying bonuses to hospitals for the deaths of patients.

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Show us the receipts, because right now you're reading just like any TDS-afflicted leftist out there.

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Maybe you are unaware, but TDS is an irrational loathing of Trump and believing he is “literally Hitler”. I don’t hate him, I just have logical, factual reasons for not supporting him. These are not the same thing.

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So, you give undying support to Trump without bothering to look into the awful things he did, and you call me deranged? LOL. Try reading up on Operation Warp Speed which handed out over a billion of our dollars to Pharma, including Pfizer, who has the record for the most criminal fines for dishonest practices. Have you not heard back of the CARES act? That created a $100 Billion fund to pay bonuses to hospitals for Covid patients, more when they put them on ventilators and when they died? This is known in economics as perverse incentivisation. Hospital administrators ordered testing of everyone that came in for any reason and vastly inflated the number of hospitalized Covid patients, even if they came in for a broken bone. Did you seriously not know about this?

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We SAW what was happening in real time. We saw that he was being attacked by demons on Every. Single. Front.

He turned it over the the TRAITOR Penny PENCE, and was stabbed 60 ways to Sunday.

All I can say is: Tell is you voted for Biden without telling us you voted for Biden.

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Those were consequences of the series of lies and deceptions sold by the *medical experts*. Is Trump degreed in medicine? I'm not. Are you? Of course, we've all heard of these things that you mention as *proof* of *bad Trump*, but they are wildly out of the context of the confusion of those early days. No. One. *Knew*. Not you, not me, no one. The *throw the Trump baby out with the covid bathwater* strategy is not an approach that is going to negatively impact anyone with a reasoned, rational panoramic view of the last few years.

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If Trump hadn't signed the bill authorizing the CARES ACT among other spending he would've been impeached on the spot.

The plandemic was coordinated on a worldwide basis that's why you have the ex mayor of Chicago Beetle Juice and Lacinda Adhern ex PM of New Zealand now INDOCTRINATING Harvard Students - What a joke....on WESTERN CIVILAZATION!

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Hind sight is always 20/20. Gives plenty of time to check up on which way the wind is blowing, without the fog of war or acid smoke of chaos. Makes the cowardly dumbest look like courageous geniuses.

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Ok, I've taken a moment, and have to say:

Did President Trump make mistakes, relying on his advisors and those upon whom almost EVERYONE relied in the early stages of the Plandemic? Yes. Did he make those mistakes maliciously, for personal gain?

If you can ask yourself that question and honestly respond "yes", then I say once again, "show me the receipts". And if you can't, then you are once again relegated to the TDS camp.

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seems to me you are indicting the current crop of government more than the prior. His saving grace was the total ignorance of the dangers of the virus and the vaccine.

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Ignorance is no excuse. I found out the truth. I suspect you did too. It was out there to be known to any healthy skeptical mind.

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my question is when did you find the truth? Before the elections or much much later? Trump was president just as the virus was gearing up.

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When was that Amused Traveler? When did you know this?

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I agree the current one is much worse in every way, sadly that doesn’t excuse the bad actions of Trump.

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Care to elaborate on Trump’s bad actions? Yes he was crass and spoke loudly and fast, but that is most New Yorkers. Apart from style, what was bad?

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Trump did the following:

1) stopped ISIS cold
2) EO stopping the drug companies from charging medicare more than what they charged foreign countries
3) EO forcing hospitals to disclose their prices
4) Move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
5) ENERGY INDEPENDENCE for the first time in my lifetime of 70 years, and record low energy prices
6) Started no new wars
6A) Abraham Accords, bringing peace to the middle east instead of war
7) Elimination of regulations, required to eliminate 8 to add a new one
8) Cut Taxes across the board
9) Increased the individual tax credit eliminating the need to file more complicated returns
10) Started the space force, sorely needed today
11) Replaced NAFTA with an agreement better for American workers
12) Put tariffs on china, starting the process of moving American production out of the enemy’s land
13) Brought back massive amounts of money saved in foreign countries
14) Withdrew from the farce know as the Paris Climate Accords
15) Withdrew from the Iran deal
16) Increased the $$$ of the average family by over 5K
17) Started the process of fixing the VA
18) Increased the spending by other NATO countries
19) Killed the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)
20) Created several million jobs, actual creation not bafflegab bullshit
21) Economic growth rates were going up, somewhere around 4% before the marxist killed the economy with the scam chinaVirus
22) Lowest rate of unemployment ever, across the board for blacks, hispanics, asians, veterans, etc.
23) Opened ANWAR and had the Keystone pipeline being constructed

There is much more of course. Makes your pathetic attempt to paint Trump poorly look just like it is.

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Fine. Vote for Biden or Harris or Newsom. That'll show us. Throw the one issue baby out with the whole bathwater.

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Bad actions? And whàt were those? You only know your side and the TV side. Ha e you say down with Trump and can honestly say he made bad decisions? No, you can't!

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A principled man accepted the advice of the *experts*, who, it turns out, lied to him. No one knew...even in hindsight...not you, not me...how the world was being duped for those first few weeks and months. There was little choice but to err on the side of caution, in the face of an unknown pathogen. Most of the lockdowns were instituted at the STATE and city levels...not Trump. It was Biden who inflicted the jab mandates and the subsequent tyranny. And letting the economy collapse because of those, would have been catastrophic. What would you propose I do, when my workplace was shut down? Bought groceries *on principle*?

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And he did not one of those things. But you go, guy.

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Yes, he actually did. You are wrong about my gender, too.

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