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Susan Catherine's avatar

Adding to the Florida leprosy story, I also feel msm is trying to associate anything bad with Florida--as a sort of brainwashing for people to have negative feelings about DeSantis OR to get people to stop moving there. Who knows what type of thing they're trying to control this time. Whether it's weather, mosquitos or leprosy--there has been a lot of "negative" Florida news lately.

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Peter GL's avatar

so far I have friends from the crazy states of NY and IL ask me how I can stand our tyrannical and dictatorial governor DeSantis. They do't know what they are talking about. I have tried unsuccessfully to educate them, but they are so brainwashed there is no turning back. So sad

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Fla Mom's avatar

A couple to whom I'm related are considering moving to Minnesota to escape the terrible tyranny under DeSantis here in Florida. My opinion: go, please! We'd be minus two more Democrats!

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Raphael's avatar

I hear they have Islamic morning prayers over loudspeakers in Minneapolis.

And is the home of the Somalian government.

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Fred's avatar

And banned affordable pork products in all the school meal programs.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Perhaps help them to pack, Fla Mom--LOL!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Don’t let you door hit you on the way out.

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AJF's avatar

Why not check out Zillow in Minnesota to help them find a house!😉

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Annie's avatar

Yes. Send them on their way with a smile and a wave goodbye. 👋

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Paul Alan's avatar

Yes, Lifetime Fitnesses home base is MN and access to some sites is limited yet it reminded me of an experience last November here in Hennepin County after voting for the Republican candidate for governor. I gave up a 47 year streak of avoiding voting for anyone in any party with Republican or Democratic affiliation. At 7pm the polls closed and I went home thinking crazy like my vote counted. I was abruptly reminded it did not. 1 mile from the polling station the internet went down. For 1 hour and 46 minutes. When I was able to receive a signal , after the time the “returns” were counted electronically I learned the incumbent won with a 70/30 margin. I tried to bring it to many peoples attention but was waved off. Not here in the most populated county in MN....would they ever rig the gubernatorial election, right?! Wrong.

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Debbie Bennett's avatar

I truly do not understand why election integrity is not been aggressively address by the House. We are running out of time. They got away with it once so you can bet they will do it again. There hasn’t been any accountability.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

All of this election "tampering" is being orchestrated by our HORRIBLE "INTEL COMMUNITY" under the auspices of the CIA. Did you all know that the CIA potentates cannot be FIRED from their positions? No wonder we have so much finagling "behind the curtain". It's a reworking of the "SS" in Germany from the 1930's to 1945--but it's been gathering "power and influence" in our country since the 1950's! AND NOW..HERE WE ARE...sitting ducks--all of us!!

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Oh lord .. Minnesota is … well uh polluted with progressive population.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I figure they'll just have to see how it goes there and make a decision about whether that's the best place to raise their soon-to-be-born first child or not. Maybe they'll love it, for a while, at least, until history catches up with them.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Speaking of Minnesota...I work out at a Life Time Fitness here in Scottsdale (because, ya know, I have to live up to the conservative stereotype). Anyhow, I was on my laptop there yesterday, using their wifi, and my intention was to buy a ticket for the AMFEST conference this coming December in Phoenix. THEIR WIFI BLOCKED ACCESS TO THE SITE! Specifically, I received a message in my browser that said "This site is blocked due to content filtering". Furthermore, the message also said "Life Time policy explicitly prohibits access to this restricted content." "This site was blocked due to the following categories: Illegal Downloads". As LT has an HQ in Minnesota, well, I found this an appropriate place to share my experience. What I'd really like to know if there are any similar conferences on the left so I could try to access their site while on Life Time wifi to see if it goes through.

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Swanlzs's avatar

Try using a VPN & see if that works

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CStone's avatar

Wow

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I'm willing to throw a twenty into the pot for their U-Haul.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Lol, I don't want to create friction in the family, but it *is* tempting to let them know they could probably fund much of their move with crowdfunding.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Exactly the point I’m trying to make in a couple of recent comments

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Judith G's avatar

MN has lakes. That’s it. That’s the good points.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

NY governor still wants to put people in camps.

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SJacob1957's avatar

Bobbie Ann Cox is the NY lawyer fighting these quarantine camps that Governor Hochul wants. She defeated her once, but then, of course, the governor appealed the decision. Check out UnitingNYS. And read regulation 10 NYCRR 2.13 here: https://regs.health.ny.gov/

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Donna in MO's avatar

AND she writes a great Substack too. Obviously from my screen name I am not from NY but I admire her, and despite having too many substacks to keep up with most days, I subscribed to her stack, she does not post prolifically. Her July 30 post was excellent: https://attorneycox.substack.com/p/how-to-hold-them-accountable

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for sharing that Donna, I admire her but did not know she has a Substack!

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well if you are like me, you probably have a bunch of them, but hey, it's like us with cats....what's one more?? LOL (OK we have 3, but at one point had 5...)

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Liz's avatar

I volunteer for Uniting NYS. Attorney Cox is our lawyer. Please sign up for our newsletter. We keep our subscribers up to date on our lawsuit appeal, give updates from Attorney Cox and share important info that NY is facing. www.unitingnys.com

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Liz's avatar

Thanks for sharing Attorney Cox's Substack. I volunteer with Uniting NYS. You can sign up for our newsletter too. www.unitingnys.com

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thanks for sharing that link.

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CStone's avatar

Me too. But he would be the first one I’d put in.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The NY crazy governor is a she.

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CStone's avatar

For some reason I was thinking of the NYC mayor.......so we could put both of them in the camp. But first make them transition. We wouldn’t want them hanky-pankying in there.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Are you sure you're not "mis" gendering?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I hope I am.

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Michael Framson's avatar

S.H.E--stinking heap [of] excrement. Took me a couple of minutes.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

She took lessons from WA state. Voters repeatedly voted down paying for a new stadium - that powers that shouldn't be decided to fund it with taxpayer dollars anyway.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Probably has a fat account in the Caymans.

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Copernicus's avatar

😆

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LH01's avatar

Well, she’s an idiot. Proven over and over. Not sure what planet she comes from.

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Liz's avatar

If you haven't already, sign up for Attorney Cox's Substack: https://attorneycox.substack.com

Also, sign up for the Uniting NYS's newsletter for updates on our quarantine lawsuit appeal: www.unitingnys.com

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thanks for posting the link.

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Liz's avatar

Here is Attorney Cox's Substack: https://attorneycox.substack.com/ I volunteer for Uniting NYS (the citizens group that sued Hochul). You can sign up for our newsletter to get updates: www.unitingnys.com

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thank you.

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devoalan's avatar

I have to go to upstate ny is September to see my family. I'm driving because I refuse to submit to the idiocy of the airlines, and by then I hope the leprosy outbreak hasn't reached there. Btw,if I was contemplating moving to Florida,especially central Florida, I'd rethink it. We have dangerous animals, a tyrant for a governor that hates gays,and now leprosy. I've heard Maryland is really nice.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Nahhhh, you want a nice governor, move to IL or AZ.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Alligators are especially bad for small dogs and they love cats

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Annie's avatar

Don't encourage them. Let them stay in their sh*thole states and suffer.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Lightbulb went off - perhaps here in Red State Land we can start a marketing campaign pushing MN, NY, CA.

If we could make it persuasive enough, some of libs might leave.

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Susan Harman's avatar

We have property in NW Florida. But with so many people moving to Florida, the competition for building supplies is fierce; hence delays and rising costs (notwithstanding Bidenomics). If people stop coming, we might get a chance to build and move!!!

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rolandttg's avatar

Just ask them "so, you didn't have any elderly relatives murdered by Cuomo's satanic policies" I take it.

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Tom's avatar

In their logic, a tyrant isn't one who makes you do things you don't want to do.

A tyrant is one who fails to make you do things THEY want to force you to do.

The left has an entirely different dictionary, and thus can only communicate in the form of the Fallacy of Equivocation.

Perhaps we could distinguish when quoting them by altering the word just a little:

"They called him a tyran't."

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

wonder if they get their 'news' from Facebook.

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GenEarly's avatar

"No Turning Back" for Anyone. Hopefully we/me/you can See the Future Consequences of the Division of the States, as well as Urban and Rual....... Suburban could be "No Mans' Land"...... not by my hand, but in response to their/thems Unlawful Tyranny. CYA

https://rumble.com/v34p8mw-booom.html

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WendeAnne's avatar

They should leave.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Why do you want to encourage them? Leave them where they are

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Agreed - whatever is said doesn't have to be true, as long as it creates an emotional reaction, it then becomes true.

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Annie's avatar

I really think tptb are having a hard time getting the same level of hysteria as occurred with covid. A large number of people aren't biting. I can imagine them all sitting around trying to come up with the next scary thing.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Nuclear war should do it.

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GenEarly's avatar

Hopefully the Nukey Thingy*** is just Fear Porn, but ..... Anyhow the Economic Bubble Burst should work nicely, followed by several "GlobalChangeyWarming" Grid Downs as icing on the progreSSives cake.

***ChiComs want affordable and useable real estate in the USSA.

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Kat's avatar

According to the prosecutor Jack Smith lying is a federal felony now. I think all of Washington DC will be indicted for felonious lying!!

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Now you’re thinking like a Bud light exec

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Agree 1000%! I feel like for the last couple of years, anything that happens to FL is called out in the headline. "FLORIDA man does this...,", "FLORIDA child does that." I just didn't put two and two together to tie it to DeSantis so thanks for this!

Speaking of Desantis, here's a post I wrote on him in the middle of the pandemic. Wonder if this is what triggered the FL attack: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/ron-desantis-the-hero-we-didnt-know

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M VARR's avatar

It's pure envy and jealousy as the Florida economy is booming.

Tampa has become the new Wall Steet.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Yep! Every time I hear "Florida...." in the news I roll my eyes.

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Credenda's avatar

It used to be the entire South. Always presented as backward, uneducated twangy buffoons in media and entertainment.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Yup; Alabama has taken more than our share of hits. The so-called elites used to avoid us like leprosy, but today they are moving here to escape their enlightened former abodes.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

"Avoid us like leprosy"... I saw what you did there!

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Roger Beal's avatar

"Used to be"?? It still is, just slightly modified to show tobacky-spittin' white males as the South's spokespersons.

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GenEarly's avatar

You talkin 'bout me???

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Credenda's avatar

I guess you’re right. But maybe more folks are recognizing it for what it is. It’s white hetero males that have the target on their backs now.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Yes; all my life I've been judged to be a toothless hillbilly Okie by toothless hillbilly thugs who live on the coasts.

This despite my classical education in Latin & Greek, and doctorate.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I do like Buddy Brown.

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Credenda's avatar

Who he?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Mississippi country music artist, Christian--see Youtube channel

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CStone's avatar

On lord!! If that’s a symptom, I’m DOOMED!!!!!!! Dooomed, I tell ya!!!!!!!

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Mary's avatar

I bet Texas is next.

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Mary S's avatar

I have a friend who lives in Indiana. She consistently sends me news articles that have anything to do with Florida (most in a negative way) But I think she believes I live under a rock and don't get any news except from her. I've tried to be nice and ask her not to send me these items but to no avail. Now I just delete text messages that include the news and don't respond.

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Patrice's avatar

Start scouring the internet for stories about Indiana and send them to her. Obviously she believes that all news is delivered word of mouth and may be unaware of the looming crisis in Indiana.

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Mary S's avatar

Not worth my time...lol. She visited us here before Covid and the entire time she was here she read us articles off her phone because she just has to be well informed and makes sure everyone around her is too. Whether they want to be or not!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Wow that’s pretty rude 😦 I don’t blame you for deleting and not responding.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Isn't Judas Pence from Indiana?

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Mary S's avatar

Yes, he is. I should say I used to live there. We hated him for governor. I should also say we moved to Florida far before Covid. In light of everything that has happened, I'm very glad we chose this great state and we love what Gov. De Santis has done for us here.

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Shelle's avatar

What was Pence like as governor? What kinds of issues bothered you most?

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Mary S's avatar

Just a couple things that really aggravated my husband and me. There is a toll road (the only one...lol) that runs east and west across the state. He sold the toll "rights" (the monies paid) to a corporate with ties to other countries. Indiana lost that revenue to a 99 year lease. I don't remember for how much but he turned around and spent all the money he gained from that sale on nothing that we thought benefited the people of Indiana.

The other issue was Indiana was a strong union state and despite a lot of opposition to keep it union strong he made it a "right to work" state which undermined the unions (of which my husband was a member) so it directly impacted my husband's job. We retired at the time of our move to Florida but the last two years he worked was severely limited and because of that he acquired less pension money upon retirement than we were planning on. Yes, it's a good pension but we don't have extra to spend.

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Kim D's avatar

Yes he is and it's one of the states with the biggest missing children count while he was Gov.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hmm....

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Janet's avatar

Ignoring and deleting I’d the best way. There is NO changing the mentally ill by ourselves.

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Vonu's avatar

There has never been a word about the gouging by Disney with extremely high admission prices to Disneyworld, and the resulting disappointment that EPCOT wasn't what Walt wanted it to be.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I've never been to a Disney park, and will never go.

But your post reminded me that as a child in the 60's & 70's, we were constantly bombarded with sales pitches about the World of the Future, Epcot.

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Vonu's avatar

EPCOT was Walt Disney's Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, which was promptly abandoned after his death. It wasn't a worldwide concept. I don't remember any mention or promotion of it outside of The Wonderful World of Disney television program.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes! The 'data' was sorely lacking in transparency and voices of reason were few and far between when DeSantis stuck his neck out. Note Mike Pence's dead eyes while DeSantis is talking in that clip you shared. Smiles and nods at the beginning but then just stands there like furniture.

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Annie's avatar

Look at the bright side. It might discourage any blue state libbies from coming to Florida. 1st - the don't say gay law. 2nd - no mutilation, I mean gender affirming care of minors. Now - leprosy which has a biblical connotation about it. Ack! Not the Bible. 😉😄

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Angela's avatar

If rhe CDC is involved then it's definitely to help tank DeSantis' campaign. Like the DOJ, they may be a *little * bent to the Biden left.

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Sharon Garvin's avatar

I am guessing we will hear a lot of this working up to the DeSantis Newsom debate.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

That was my thought immediately, Susan.

I pity the FOOLS that even LISTEN to MSM misanthropes.

Have you all seen the "public ad council TV ads on late night shows with the "furrowed brow, young mothers" concerned about WILD FIRES caused by CLIMATE CHANGE?? And some of these "furrowed brows" are even SCIENTISTS - and one of them gives her "death throes testimony" about how concerned she is for her children's health - wildfires are dangerous (just ask Smoky the Bear...that's MY COMMENT to this bit of propaganda!!)

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Susan Catherine's avatar

MSM has been LEADING with weather stories for a few weeks now. If my eyes roll any harder they’ll get stuck in the back of my head. I prefer not to watch msm but, the give and take of being in a relationship...

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I feel for ya "big time", Susan - at least the guy I'm "sheltering in place" with is basically of the same mindset as I am when it comes to the psyop "warfare" we have been engaged with the past 3 1/2 years!!

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Don't you find it difficult to imagine having to spend the past few years living with someone who is of a completely different mindset? Mine is mostly with me, but feels I at times go over the edge 😂. He might be right lol!. He likes to watch several different msm's, take it all in and make up his own mind. In the end, he shakes his head just as I do. The lies we listen to make my blood boil. Somehow he just lets it roll off him.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Perhaps your S.O. sees the "forest" instead of the "trees"--IDK😉 I'm more of your "ilk" though, Susan

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh my word I don’t have a TV, so haven’t seen these ads, but I would be rolling my eyes and laughing so hard at this stupid inane propagandized hysteria 🙄

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No TV here either. I missed all the fear porn commercials.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yep and no regrets about that for sure!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

None of this would work on US anymore--but the "poor, mindless boobs that are HYPNOTIZED by it will just be "so, so scared" and probaby go out and volunteer to be a WILDFIRE MOM!!!

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

I thought this exactly! Also, don't look at the blue cities of defunded police, thievery, gangs of kids looting, Sikhs at 7-11 beating a thief with a garbage can, fentanyl, homeless encampments, mass exoduses of businesses, look at the dirty disease ridden hick rednecks who eat roadkill armadillo in Florida (makes me think of Carl Hiassen, Jeff Childers often being his literary twin lol)

But something even more insidious is that all news of infectious disease makes us authoritarian, which worked to defeat plagues and diseases over history, at least for our own tribe, but which makes us manipulable and susceptible to psyops now.

Death, Disease, and Politics | Dr. Randy Thornhill | EP 184 Jordan Peterson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DqJ1Wv6EtQ&t=2s

My Chat with Biologist Dr. Randy Thornhill, Pioneer of Parasite-Stress Theory (THE SAAD TRUTH_1393) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIiMi7uVJ0w

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Rooftop Koreans don't take any sh*t either.

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Kim D's avatar

Thanks for sharing the link with Dr. Randy Thornhill. I found it fascinating.

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JW's avatar

This media coverage will also keep tourists away just as zika and other diseases did.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

They’re probably trying to hit Florida in the pocketbook. I’m sure they don’t like Florida’s surplus $$$

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Vonu's avatar

When I drove longhaul truck in the first half of the 90s, there was only one truckstop in Miami.

It had a men's room, entered from the outside, whose toilet lacked half of its seat. Fortunately, I only had to do number one. This will remain my most memorable memory of Florida.

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Credenda's avatar

Well what else do ya need? Lol

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank goodness there’s Buccees now lol 😁

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CarO Lyn's avatar

In Miami??

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t know, I just meant overall, that there are now places with impeccably clean restrooms available. Gas station restrooms used to pretty much all be horrible.

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NanaW's avatar

Right? So weird, almost like there’s an agenda or something. But that’s just crazy talk. 🙄

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AM's avatar

So true! To hear the media tell it Florida is post apocalyptic hellscape. Fine by me. Stay away! 🤣🤣

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Jaci's avatar

Me too!

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Bob K's avatar

Excellent analysis & theory, Susan Catherine.

That the noticeably large quantity & variety of "negative" Florida news lately ... the MSM is making associations to Florida no doubt for an agenda / purpose.

(Like Dan Bongino often says ... those former news reporting entities now deliver _A_ story, not _THE_ story.)

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Just tonight we heard two more "Florida" stories. One about a 6 year old boy and roller coaster in the Orlando area and the other about a sailor off St. Augustine. I'm not surprised. Dangerous, dangerous Florida where rogue unsupervised 6 year olds get injured and how the state does not protect sailing folk...Bad Florida!

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FLsgh's avatar

Totally agree... anything to disrupt tourism and our booming economy

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Kshav6's avatar

Was just saying that to my friend.

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Kathy Boston's avatar

**WRONGFUL TERMINATION**

TROOPERS FIRED BY CHARLIE BAKER FOR NOT GETTING THE VACCINE WIN JOBS BACK

An arbitrator has ruled in favor of the Massachusetts State Police Troopers that were not allowed a vaccine exemption and were instead fired during the COVID-19 emergency during which, government officials issued orders and took control of decisions for many people.

Massachusetts officials and State Police brass had been fighting hard to not rehire the troopers. The ruling means that all the troopers must be offered their jobs back, including all back pay, benefits, and full seniority.

The ruling states that the former governor and his administration failed in their duty to give proper consideration and accommodations to those troopers who held religious beliefs and requested a vaccine exemption.

🔵

Sent from my iPhone

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M VARR's avatar

God Bless the arbitrator!!!

May those *assachusetts officials and State Police brass that fought them be removed

from power for violating their God given civil rights!

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Fla Mom's avatar

And the residents are known as Massholes.

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AnnR's avatar

That only applies to MOST MA residents - the minority of us are pretty OK, lol!!! But, I always say, we get what we vote for, and until we normal people communicate better and fight harder to change the way the Massholes vote, we will continue to have horrible dictatorship here.

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rolandttg's avatar

I've called it Mass of 2 Shits for decades. Goes along with Corrupticut

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M VARR's avatar

lol!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Huh--wonder why the state and police brass were working so hard to deny the re-instatement. Checking on this--see that July 22 ("National File Aug 9, '22) they also lost their right to concealed carry (license to carry was revoked and would not be renewed--signed by State Police Col Christopher Mason)--one might conceivably, possibly ask , what on earth does a vaccine have to do with one's 2A rights?

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Annie's avatar

Hopefully the brass is fully vaxxed and will get their just desserts.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Right? Two entirely different kinds of shots.

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Annie's avatar

Good. The big lesson here is to stand your ground. And don't cave. If the people who caved had stood with these troopers, the state police might have collapsed sooner exposing the entire scamdemic more. Tptb relied on compliance and boy did they get it bigly.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

NYC employees got same judgement several months ago. Justice is slow but possible!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

This makes me incredibly happy for those troopers!! Well done!!!!

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Peace's avatar

Kathy Boston - Hopefully this will make other officials think twice before such tactics in the future. Thanks for sharing this great news about the huge win for these troopers - especially love "including all back pay, benefits, and full seniority."!

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Bill Campbell's avatar

Officials think twice? They can't get past the first thought.

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SB's avatar

They should have to pay any debt they incurred because they were unemployed and give them a lot extra for angst they endured or harassment they endured. Simply getting their jobs back is no longer enough.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Yes, but we are all supposed to fawn over and support "law enforcement." They can all pound sand.

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Dawn B's avatar

Yea, I just got a call yesterday to donate tropper support... Even if I did, these $$$ collecting companies are scams and donate less than 5% anyway. At least that is what I found on one company I researched and likely the same financial model they all use.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Exactly, Dawn.

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Fred's avatar

And they get downright nasty if you fail to give a second year. Scams.

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Shelle's avatar

Good to know!

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s great news! A definite win for those who chose to say no!

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SB's avatar

Let the games begin! Honestly, we had to know this was coming because it was so blatantly obviously illegal from the start.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I hope this is a binding arbitration. Otherwise the decision will scoot up the legal ladder for a couple more years.

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AnnR's avatar

If ever there was a RINO Governor, Charlie Baker was it. He is a puke of a human being.

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Dr. Colleen Huber's avatar

Well that's rich: Vaccinate against tuberculosis (BCG) to protect against leprosy. Now I've heard everything.

The whole vaccination boondoggle is built on the gullibility of a-sucker-is-born-every-minute cohort

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I'm having a hard time right now with such things as; a young couple in our church whose son was diagnosed recently with autism, another couple with a son recently diagnosed ADHD, and two more young couples whose new babies are probably being injected with all this poison. Children's Health Defense reported on yet another vaccine for babies, even though 12 babies died in the trials. They just declared that the vaccine was not the cause of the babies' deaths. How long, Lord? https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-beyfortus-nirsevimab-rsv-shots-newborns/?itm_term=home

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SadieJay's avatar

If I had to be a young mother all over again I would NOT vaccinate my children. If nothing else, hopefully the giant psyop will open new parents eyes.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

SadieJay--just an anecdote. Know a 50-year old who told me, in April, he has not allowed his children (young teens ot young adults) ever to be vaxxed, says they are completely healthy. His nephews, nieces, all vaxxed, always ill. And current teens come from the max-vax generation.

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Dawn B's avatar

FACT - The unvaxxed children are the healthiest.

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SadieJay's avatar

My daughter's friend has a super fussy baby, Not happy at all. I just wonder if it was something in a vax that has made him so. She has not given him all the 'recommended' ones, but it only takes one. He is a year and even his grandma can't stand to sit with him all day so she can get away. Cry cry cry....It breaks my heart. All it takes is one evil batch or one small reaction.

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SoManyQuestions's avatar

Please suggest chiropractic care! Especially atlas alignment. It can work wonders 🙏🏻

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Hope that baby grows out of it and isn't autistic 🙏

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

My first three kids were fully vaxxed up to 4yo but my two littles have zero and I've promised my older ones they'll never get another one again. Pandemic totally woke me up.

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SadieJay's avatar

Yes! It did me too and it will be a side effect I am sure they never expected. Go ahead and underestimate us. That will be fun.

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NAB's avatar

Same, SadieJay. Same.

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K.Lib4's avatar

Ugh--me too! I’ve already apologized to my now adult kids for not doing more research. And since I can’t go back, I’m going to spend my time trying to help them save their children.

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SadieJay's avatar

Good for you. My daughter is in the military and so is her husband.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Looking back, I’m thankful and happy with my choice to stop shooting up 💉my oldest 3 and refuse with my youngest.

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SadieJay's avatar

Shooting up! Remember when that used to mean heroin? They are truly evil and sick and I hope they pay. I am glad we are waking up.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

You know, I am thinking--I trusted my doctor regarding vaccines for children--born between 1978 and 1987. But young parents today have access to all sorts of information! One might consider it actually their responsibility, given that information, to take possession of it on behalf of their children.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

It's still difficult. There are so few doctors who don't push the vaccines, and those who don't are punished. Dr. Paul Thomas lost his medical license, even though he presented data from his own patients showing that unvaccinated children are more healthy. The narrative is strong and it is daunting to question it. Childhood vaccines were discussed this week on the FLCCC's webinar. Dr. Thomas took part in the webinar. https://covid19criticalcare.com/your-child-your-choice-vaccines-treatment-decisions/

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Credenda's avatar

It’s tough for the parents. I know of a couple with a special needs child who have been refused pediatric care for her because she isn’t vaxed and won’t be. The parents are in a bind trying to find a doctor who will see the child. I’m really disgusted with the whole fields of pediatrics these days.

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Rebecca's avatar

Our first pediatrician kicked us out of his practice just because we wanted to do the vaccines later and more slowly! Good riddance. We were luckily able to find one who is a lot more accommodating, but she is still at the mercy of her practice (so few independent doctors these days in my area - they all get swallowed up by these huge companies). And she's been great, but I absolutely know way more about vaccines than she does (I will say she's at least humble about it and doesn't try to play the expert card.)

Ever since my twins have been found to be developmentally delayed, I've started to question and look into everything (the vaccines...the number of sonograms I got while pregnant...the fluoride in our water). I feel like I can't trust anything. I stopped vaccinating my youngest for now, and have been pushing it off with my pediatrician, but she says at some point "they" may catch up with me and kick me out. I'm also going to run into problems with school - even private schools in my area require that the kid is up to date on his or her vaccines, and no religious exemptions are allowed. I know the easy answers are "homeschool" and "move," but it's not always that simple.

Anyway, I'm right there with you being disgusted.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

My daughter is DD and they said there’s no reason for it when this all started. Blamed it on a traumatic birth that resulted in a healthy baby. I always believed what they said. Never questioned any of it. And continued to vaxx her over the years. “Sometimes it just happens and we don’t know why.” Liars. They do know why but they have hidden it, denied it, lied about it, and pretended it has nothing to do with anything. I am now coming to terms with a very real possibility my daughter is a product of their lies and a vax injured person. I get sick to my stomach thinking her life and ours may have been different had we known the truth about vaccines back then. If we had been given actual informed consent, REAL informed consent, and been allowed to make our own decisions based on the knowledge we would’ve had. It’s infuriating.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Me too. Really no care about the actual individual patient’s best interests 😕

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Add me to the list RunningLogic.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

BUT, they have bought it hook, line, and sinker. I have a pediatrician acquaintance that is 100% for shots. Her kids all have allergies, some life-threatening and she absolutely cannot connect the dots. She’s a nice person, but I wouldn’t ever recommend her. If she’s that stupid, what else is she missing?

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IR's avatar

Well, I think technically they don’t have to go to the pediatrician specifically. They can see any GP or some other medical practitioner or some other specialist.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

4 kids and we never had a pediatrician. GP all the way.

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rolandttg's avatar

Problem is, you actually have to read, or at least listen to podcasts, to access that information. And if you can't find it on the tell a vision, or the stupid phone, they will never see that information. Heck I've read ~95 % of people use Google/CIA their search engine

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AJF's avatar

I'm constantly advising people to not make Google synonymous with search engine. Some just stare at me. Many are unaware there are other search engines..."just Google it!"

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Cinghale's avatar

Swiss cows, Mojeek, Yandex are great search engines

I refuse to use the word g**gle…

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AJF's avatar

Using Brave

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I tried Yandex but it was in Russian and I couldn't read it. Couldn't figure out how to change the settings because the settings were in Russian too.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Just read that Wikipedia is massively infiltrated by CIA "editors."

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Wikipedia is very leftist dominated. Been an issue for many years. I still use it, but only for non-conroversial things like car or music info. Don't rely on it for anything you wouldn't trust MSM to inform you on.

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CStone's avatar

The article said that it has been infiltrated by c 👁 a for at least 10 years, but may have been a c 👁 a operation from the beginning.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Google/CIA--that's a good one!

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

The following article is about childhood vaccines. It's fascinating. Written by lawyer Aaron Siri.

What the “Casual Cruelty” of Dr. Paul Offit Reveals

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/what-the-casual-cruelty-of-dr-paul?publication_id=516360&isFreemail=true

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Thank you! I am very familiar with Aaron Siri, due to watching The Highwire. He's a rock star attorney!

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RunningLogic's avatar

He sure is!!

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

That is an EXCELLENT article!!!

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Karen's avatar

My daughter and I have an in home daycare for infants. We are antivax as well as one other child. I fear for the other four babies that will be vaxxed. I fear if one of those are affected in a negative way that we won't be able to keep them. We shower our babies with love and attention and don't have time to neglect ant to wholly focus on one.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Thank you for taking care of children!

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Credenda's avatar

Thanks for posting that Anne. I looked at the link and it seems very suspicious that 12 infants died after receiving this vaccine. At least 8 of the deaths appeared to have a possible association with it. Four babies died of heart attacks! Good grief! 2 babies died of SIDS, 2 died from gastrointestinal problems. This death rate far exceeds the usual death rate in infants. How can they be so blind? Their heartless drive for profits will come back on them some day.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Wonder--do the parents of those babies ever have access to the data? Are they perhaps kept unaware that other babies died?

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Credenda's avatar

They are kept unaware until the trial ends and the data are published. There are often mid-trial interim reports but these are not open to public scrutiny. In fact, there is a great deal of secrecy surrounding them. Sometimes interim results will be “leaked” to investors to drive up the stock price of the pharmaceutical company sponsoring the study. During the early phase of COVID I know of doctors who based their clinical decision-making on nothing more than a daily consultation of stock prices of various Pharma companies. In their mind, if a stock was rising that meant that the product might be effective and therefore a money-maker. In the end, nothing they produced worked but it didn’t matter. It was only the perception of efficacy that mattered which generated the billions of profit they sought. The entire system is broken.

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IR's avatar

At least doctors should have more freedom to be able to NOT recommend every single thing they are producing without fearing the retaliation and a threat to their license. It’s impossible to practice under these circumstances

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CStone's avatar

Oh, I don’t think most doctors are unwilling to give the shots. It’s obvious, at least to me, that for 99% of them are willing to sacrifice YOUR loved ones for the money.

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IR's avatar

It’s my understanding that technically it’s not a vaccine, it’s a monoclonal antibody shot but these side effects are very concerning? How was it approved? I think I know 💵 🤝. It’s getting worse and worse, they keep churning out these different products, no long term safety, nothing. Poor babies

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Annie's avatar

As long as people choose not to see, it will continue. I was blind but now I see. They need some amazing grace.

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rolandttg's avatar

Until all of satan's minions experience a short drop and a sudden stop

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Raphael's avatar

Is ADHD a real thing, or is it if at all just a reaction to the food substance. Not to mention if she didn't breastfeed the kid barely has a operable immune system to start with.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Dr. Paul Thomas' study of over 3000 of the children in his practice, all of whom had been with him since birth, revealed that the unvaccinated children did not have ADHD, nor did they have food allergies, ear infections or sickness in general. They very seldom needed to come in for a sick visit. My children got about 5 vaccine doses; now it is about 72.

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Nikki's avatar

I have two sons (12, 15). Neither have every been vaccinated. I would say overall they are healthier than their peers. We have only every had two sick visits (pink eye, strep throat). However, my youngest has ADHD and a minor allergy to mollusks.

I will say that his symptoms increase/decrease with food choices and screen time.

edited to add - maybe more important (or at least as important) than food and screens is going outside and being a kid.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

My comment should have indicated that there are instances of autism and ADHD among unvaccinated children, but it is apparently less prevalent. I'm going to mention what you said about food choices and screen time (and outside play) to our church friends whose son was diagnosed as ADHD. Thank you for sharing that!

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Raphael's avatar

https://youtu.be/PhIB-82gY6I

This YouTube video is about Hygiene theory And the bacteria we get from our outdoors surroundings animals and such.

Very informative. Also, it seems they have ways of boosting the immune system. specially in children.

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CStone's avatar

Also, a study of Amish children revealed no ADHD or autism. And they are healthier than the general population.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

🥺😢

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Shelle's avatar

That is exactly how I feel expressed so perfectly!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

They make PT Barnum look like an amateur.

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Dr Linda's avatar

And saint

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Multi-purpose vax! Reckon tptb discovered a backlog of TB Vax vials that are perilously close to expiration date?

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daiva's avatar

💬 Now I've heard everything.

Just you hold the wokesters' Bud Light! 😁

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Copernicus's avatar

I know! I thought the same thing! And the vaccine doesn’t even work well for TB!!! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right???

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Cassandra's Box's avatar

Yes I am sitting there reading that just ...WTF??? Please can we abolish the vaccine nonsense already.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I thought the same thing!!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

One possible positive note from the leprosy hype: it may decrease the number of ‘woke’ people infesting Florida.

Unless they bring their own leprosy vax with them. ;)

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Kim's avatar

Hmm, maybe Texas could benefit from this angle and discourage CA from moving here by reporting leprosy. We also have lots of armadillos.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

I have heard a lot of "Texas" in the news as well. Just last week I asked my husband if he noticed all the bad press Texas and Florida have been receiving lately. Since DeSantis isn't in Texas, and Abbot isn't running for President, I could only guess they want to stop people from moving there.

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Freebird's avatar

We have hoards of illegals crossing our southern border every day in addition to those fleeing California. I’ve heard suggestions of filling the Rio Grande with alligators. Maybe we can borrow some armadillos and alligators from Florida! 😂

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Karen's avatar

Please take some of our gators and get some pythons while you're at it.

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Freebird's avatar

😂

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rolandttg's avatar

Now that makes me ponder something I never considered. Would you rather have a rash of illegals move into your neighborhood, or a rash of people from Commiefornia?

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Freebird's avatar

I’d rather have the gators and pythons as Karen suggested. My husband is on a security team at church and they have meetings every 4-6 weeks for requalification, information sharing etc. This morning they were told that there is a rash of car jacking incidents happening everywhere. Be aware! Those illegals and or gang members need wheels.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Anyone from CA could easily be illegal too!

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

We aren't all illegally here in the USA.

Besides, i bet most of the people leaving California are looking for better schools and less to government interventions, not the nuts who keep moving here to screw up the government--looking at you Nancy Pelosi...

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devoalan's avatar

In all honesty, so many of those illegals are Conservative christians, so yeah. Not all, but I'll bet most.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Both sound irrashional.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

One article said Texas had leprosy too and malaria mosquitoes. But Florida is getting hit harder because you are doing so well!!

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Karen's avatar

DeSantis

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Kim's avatar

Right! I’m all for slowing down the influx.

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devoalan's avatar

Works for me. I'm hoping many will leave.

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Credenda's avatar

Sounds like a workable strategy. These people will believe anything. We might as well use it to our own advantage.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??

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FourWinds's avatar

If armadillos keep the wokies out, I will import some to Ohio.

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AMEDD91CHARLIE's avatar

Please please please someone report that

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Karen's avatar

We need more gator. Python and shark stories. Come on media help Florida out!

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Kim's avatar

Hahahaha! Yes!

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Christy's avatar

Lol was thinking the same thing. All those woke people moving to florida in droves need to go live in their own mess!

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

sshhhhh...

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

One wonders how the Disney receipts for August, last month before school, will tally up.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And that’s a good thing!

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devoalan's avatar

I'm hoping.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

FluBros are back:

CDC now says Covid-19 is mild and you can treat it with Advil.

https://twitter.com/DrBenTapper1/status/1687603811425124353

"it's the Flu, bro"

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Lilibet's avatar

But they hold to their argument that we only got to this point by vaxxxinating the whole world.

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J Boss's avatar

Well, they didn't get me and I never got their flu... or any flu in the past 2.5+ decades...

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Peter GL's avatar

does the great scientist Fauci agree? What about Gates and all the other vaccine pushers?

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Someone in Portland, yes vaxxed, just posted that she had a cold but horrors of horrors, tested, it’s covid, again!!! 🤣😂😅.

She’s posted a lot of illness stuff this year. Musta gotten a bad batch, I thought people in blue states got saline? 🤔

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Karen's avatar

I've been sick for a month now. Unvaxxed Pure Blood, had covid once and got the antibodies (thanks DeSantis). Extremely sore throat at first followed by running sinus, cough and laryngitis. Tired, some sore muscles. Maybe covid again? I refuse to be tested. Finally able to talk instead of squeak. Those around me have had little of it. I think it's the Bidenvirus.

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IR's avatar

I also recently had a sore throat that lasted suspiciously longer than usual but it’s gone now . Never tested. I only tested for covid once in my life, during that time I lost my sense of smell, otherwise all the symptoms are the same as any other viral illness, nonspecific so can be anything. I was always saying to people if we now start testing for everything I wonder what we are going to find. We constantly have contact with different viruses but only sometimes get sick. Covid is the only thing that we’ve started to test for on a mass scale, we had never tested for anything on such a mass scale. I’m sure it’s a part of a psyop to drive the numbers up.

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Paula's avatar

I recently spent a few days in Sydney for a conference sitting close to lots of vaxxed people day after day (I’m unvaxxed and live in rural Tasmania on a small farm) and came home with some ghastly virus or other. I almost never catch anything, but this one was hard to get rid of - it just kept on keeping on. Fortunately it didn’t stop me working, but just made me feel miserable with uncontrollable coughing and mild fever. Who knows what it was - but I suspect large cities full of vaxxed people are generating all sorts of nasty bugs

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Karen Bandy's avatar

🤣 I think so too, what else could it be but Biden virus? Maybe you should check with David Muir or Anderson Cooper just to be sure.

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Janet's avatar

Sounds like the strep throat I had 11 years ago.

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Copernicus's avatar

Drs. Pierre Kory and Paul Marik of FLCCC fame have been told by the American Board of Internal Medicine that their board certification is being stripped due to their misinformation propagation.

While this is not the same as taking away their medical licenses, it is a chilling message to other doctors that they should not question The Guidelines or consider treating patients as individuals.

Can we do a multiplier for them? Yes, they are doctors, and folks assume doctor = endless cash on hand. But, they’ve been fired from their jobs and are expending enormous energy, money, and time traveling and speaking and continuing to offer telehealth for all of us. Their legal battle will be expensive and long. The ABIM is the entity with limitless cash, not these beleaguered doctors.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My suspicion is that a parallel medical 'economy' is rising--one without licensure, payment in cash. What does a license really prove? You might have come from the bottom of your class, have cheated your way through the program, and so on.

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AJF's avatar

My great grandmother was considered to be the "doctor" in her small town in Poland. It was her knowledge of plants and mushrooms that made her so. IMO this ancient knowledge of the earth (God provides all we need) is much more valuable than any program Rockefeller came up with!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Just look at all the papers in Natl Library of Medicine/ PubMed--the new efforts toward plant-based medicine research (herbalist's delight!)

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AJF's avatar

Well don't worry, the FDA is working on crushing all that!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

In fact, isn't this what medical training was before Rockefeller? A system of apprenticeship? I have not studied this matter so am talking off the top of my head.

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Angus McPherson's avatar

It is still an apprenticeship. Residency. But even that is becoming questionable. There is a move at the AMA to replace "time" with "competency" in residency programs which on its face seems reasonable, until you understand that passing the "competent" is a way of allowsing those who buy into "The Science TM" to test out of the apprenticeship. Yikes.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

ViaVeritasVita, I think thats why medicine is called a 'practice', you never stop learning. The same with law. I'm confident Jeff would agree with that as he is extraordinary at researching 'facts' and seeing where the truth lays.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I would add teaching to that group--at least for me it was. Actually, still is though I am 2 years out. There were others whose classes I monitored for whom I suspect it was just a paycheck with bennies.

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CStone's avatar

I just commented on this. I hadn’t seen your comment at the time. Drs and lawyers set up a ‘practice’. One you see it you can’t unsee it.

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Copernicus's avatar

The traditional internship and residency are historically very much an apprenticeship.

Unfortunately the value of that has been decreasing in recent years w work hr reductions. Now, definitely there were some limits needed - nobody wants to have a surgeon who is awake all night every third night, or an attending physician who has been without a solid night of sleep in a week. But, with less exposure comes less experience. Residents and interns nowadays are much more coddled than 20-30 years ago.

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Cinghale's avatar

It’s important that we support these parallel doctors and practitioners. I was denied service from my dermatologist yesterday because I declined to sign the HIPAA

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I’m declining to sign anything other than consent to treat. They are baffled at the front desks. So few of us refuse to sign away everything that it baffles them when someone does and they don’t understand and are shocked. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Copernicus's avatar

That’s too bad.

I was reading about this recently - they aren’t REQUIRED to have you sign it. They are only required to make good faith effort to obtain your signature. And all your signature really means is that you are acknowledging all the ways they may divulge your private information. You aren’t giving them permission to do anything when you sign it.

Good for you.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

It's supposed to protect your own privacy but actually has you sign away your rights to same!

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Copernicus's avatar

Actually, they can make all the disclosures without your signature. They are legally allowed. 😑

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Fla Mom's avatar

Well, all the disclosures that are legal. They can't give your info to a relative who calls up or something. I can see why in fractured families, etc., that's important, but it probably also impedes care in some situations where the paperwork isn't squared away but the relative being involved and informed would be really helpful.

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Copernicus's avatar

Okay, good point about disclosures to relatives and random people.

However, the legal disclosures now include for matters of national security or threats to the president. When viral infections or particular points of view are categorized as matters of National security, we can see where that may lead. Lockups anyone? ☹️🥺😳

Other legal disclosures include for research. When did we become compelled to involuntarily submit our private information for research, without a full-on informed consent.

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NetteJoy's avatar

Well I just learned something new. I’ll be reading them going forward and probably cross out stuff and write “I do not consent unless I give explicit written permission on a case by case basis”. Can I do that?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe it used to mean something, but now it just means you toe the line and do and say what you’re told 😕

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks RunningLogic for that 'toe'--I have at least twice, lately, seen the metaphor with 'tow'--which I believe is what mules used to do on the Erie Canal (and others)>

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I see that a lot too. Along with things like Marshall (martial) law, pedaling (peddling) lies, putting in a stint (stent) after a heart attack, nipping something in the butt (bud), and so many others! It drives me crazy when people don’t seem to know what different words and expressions mean. Especially now that it’s easier than ever to look them up! Maybe it’s pedantic but I can’t help it 🤷‍♀️ And that’s different from a typo because of fat fingers or a small screen or autocorrect and predictive text making last minute “corrections” 😛

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Credit to Dickens, but let's never forget comedian Norm Crosby and folks who keep his material alive, chalked full of malaprops, floundering in unchartered waters, sewing distention, blaming escape goats, and giving their upmost, although with half-hazard results.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And 'based off' which I tried to visually explain to my 11th grade students--with a pedestal and statue mounted atop

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Mrs Malaprop is older than Dickens!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Oh your examples are so very good--are these your own list?

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆

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CarO Lyn's avatar

‘All of THE sudden’ is my current pet peeve. I’ve been seeing it a lot recently.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Multiple? over and over last spring/winter--seeing it less now. What's wrong with 'many'?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Oh predictive text and autocorrect! Had my husband take a photo of me holding my artemisia absinthium crop (6 feet high, filled my arms) [a bit of absinthe, anyone?] to send to daughters--AI couldn't cope with Latin so sent 'artemisia a sing Kun"--which sounds rather Asian, a joke as one child is now teaching in an Asian country--and those last minute corrections, as you rightly point out, are so annoying.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Is it true that absinthe makes the heart grow fonder?

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s hilarious though!!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Don't get me started. If I see another ignorant malapropism like "that doesn't jive (sic)" or "Don't be a looser (sic)" my head will explode.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

How about --outside of malapropisms (love Restoration comedy) --''weather' for 'whether'? I suspect these arise because people are not readers? Thanks for supporting me!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Looser for loser drives me bonkers!! 😠

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Copernicus's avatar

Unfortunately without a license, one cannot order prescription meds or X-rays or certain lab studies.

While you are correct that a license is not a guarantee of a good physician, the current system requires said license to access certain privileges.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And who knows what The Blob would do in response to various people "practicing medicine without a license." We may find out. It's been fairly tough on those *with* licenses who 'stray.'

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, people deemed to be practicing medicine without a license are fined and jailed, as far as I am aware. So, good point.

Thus the many disclaimers on the websites and paperwork of unlicensed alternative practitioners that they are not offering medical advice.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

or legal advice

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Fla Mom's avatar

Or, in the case of someone who graduated from my medical school, his parents donated an entire building to the medical school.

However, that said, there are, or perhaps I should say, used to be, instances where medical licenses were suspended or revoked for clear, frightening, deadly, malpractice. A friend of my sister's died from a botched surgery last year, and the patient's brother found out that it was the third, nearly identical, instance of same. I recommended that the brother lodge a complaint with the Medical Board, since they can mandate extra training or supervision, limit his license, suspend it, or revoke it.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

But apparently patients must die or be maimed before anyone actually looks into the matter

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Fla Mom's avatar

If things went according to how uninformed patients think they go, then the horrible doctors would have not been admitted to medical school b/c of bad grades and scores (but political correctness rules, in part because of accreditation standards that require counting by race and proportionate representation), would have flunked out if appropriate (see 'building' example above), or wouldn't have made it to or through residency (but for this and even for flunking out of med school, lawsuits are now not uncommon). If they're licensed they passed whatever is today's standardized exam. After that, and really for much of one's training, one is largely on one's own, without direct observation or monitoring. There are supposed to be chart reviews by peers. How else would one know that a doc is dangerous, other than the above and then outcomes?

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CStone's avatar

Why do they call it a ‘practice’? They are prACTicing on us!!

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CStone's avatar

Exactly. Like Biden did.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Persecution is a disease perpetrated upon the ones who threaten the power/influence of the swamp creatures of various entities (government, medicine, corporate, political, etc.)

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m all for it! They’ve spoken the truth despite tremendous pressure and persecution. They are unfolding the Hippocratic Oath that most in healthcare have abandoned.

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Ocean Claire's avatar

Yes, I support a multiplier. They have a donation page on their website.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

Our government not only interferes in foreign elections but also in our own.

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DogsLife's avatar

Yes, it's almost like they ran out of countries to abuse, so The Eye turned inward.

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Credenda's avatar

That’s a good way of putting it. They started with the Kennedy assassination and when they got away with that, the path was cleared to subvert and sabotage our liberty from within.

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devoalan's avatar

You have to go back to the Korean conflict to find the CIA's meanderings. And OSS before that.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

On target devoalan. I'm currently following Monkey Werx and James Kaddis, they are doing a series on OSS-CIA. It began by bringing Nazis to USA after WWII, vetting them then setting them up in Ukraine. Recommended reading is The Devils Chessboard. Read about the Dulles brothers and JFK.

My opinion, this is all part of the spiritual battle raging around us. God loves us, and wants us to live. Satan hates us and wants us dead.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Isn’t that when elder Bush was involved in the CIA?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Poppy was in Dallas 22 November 1963.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

😳 yikes! The old letch sure had an illustrious career. And to think I probably voted for him.

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Tom's avatar

Aleister Crowley was an asset of British Intelligence and OSS.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

If the United States saw what the United States was doing to the United States, the United States would invade the United States to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States. (@mmsoottee)

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daverkb's avatar

Yes, and in the Land of the End Justifies the Means, one can always identify a new 'noble end' worthy of any means. And once so engaged, Evil becomes a habit.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

CIA killed JFK.

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WP William's avatar

they incentivize the correct result; just like directed evolution or gain of function

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Big time interference Hugh!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

"My neighborhood has long been ‘entertained’ by the occasional early-morning shotgun blast as my across-the-street neighbor blows armadillos away in his yard. He can’t stand them.

That’s life in Florida. What can I say?"

Spoken like a true Floridian! LOL! Love it down here! Greatest state ever!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, last week, I was hearing gunshots repeatedly from the island across the channel. When we don't have 'visitors', husband and I contribute to those sounds with our own target practice. Nothing like 42 acres of nobody else.

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Tom's avatar

Jeff's neighbor should open an armadillo wet market.

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M VARR's avatar

Shotgun blast may disperse the leprosy bacteria.

That might not be a good idea!

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M VARR's avatar

Sebastian Maniscalco described personal family methods of

disposing of unwanted wildlife. PETA trigger warning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GP2FJFFtgs

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Green Fields's avatar

So, the flu outbreak in 1918.19 was followed by leprosy in 1921 - then what happened? Was there another outbreak or two of something which so failed to scare people that they did another war? You know, when all else fails...

Seems that we are all but separated by a conveniuent 100 year gap here with nobody left from the first time around to make comment or remember. Hmmm.

Long may you keep writing Jeff, always a good read and kick-start to the old grey matter.

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Nice pickup on the temporal association between The Great Influenza and this leprosy documentation. There's also speculation that injection of soldiers against meningitis could have caused a temporary compromise to their immune systems such that influenza could particularly attack and kill young, healthy men, something it didn't do before, nor ever since. The speculation continues that they then carried the influenza virus to Ft. Dix and then overseas for WWI, where it became known as 'Spanish Influenza.'

"Following an outbreak of epidemic meningitis at Camp Funston, Kansas, in October and November, 1917, a series of antimeningitis vaccinations was undertaken on volunteer subjects from the camp. Major E. H. Schorer, Chief of the Laboratory Section at the adjacent Base Hospital at Fort Riley, offered every facility at his command and cooperated in the laboratory work connected with the vaccinations. In the camp, under the direction of the Division Surgeon, Lieutenant Colonel J. L. Shepard, a preliminary series of vaccinations on a relatively small number of volunteers served to determine the appropriate doses and the resultant local and general reactions. Following this series, the vaccine was offered by the Division Surgeon to the camp at large, and "given by the regimental surgeons to all who wished to take it."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2126288/pdf/449.pdf

"[T]his author conducted an extensive survey of contemporary medical and lay literature searching for epidemiological evidence – the only evidence available. That review suggests that the most likely site of origin was Haskell County, Kansas, an isolated and sparsely populated county in the southwest corner of the state, in January 1918 [1]. If this hypothesis is correct, it has public policy implications. ... Both contemporary epidemiological studies and lay histories of the pandemic have identified the first known outbreak of epidemic influenza as occurring at Camp Funston, now Ft. Riley, in Kansas. But there was one place where a previously unknown – and remarkable – epidemic of influenza occurred. Haskell County, Kansas, lay three hundred miles to the west of Funston. ... In late January and early February 1918 Miner was suddenly faced with an epidemic of influenza, but an influenza unlike any he had ever seen before. Soon dozens of his patients – the strongest, the healthiest, the most robust people in the county – were being struck down as suddenly as if they had been shot. Then one patient progressed to pneumonia. Then another. And they began to die. ... Then, as abruptly as it came, it disappeared. ... Influenza was neither a reportable disease, nor a disease that any state or federal public health agency tracked. Yet Miner considered this incarnation of the disease so dangerous that he warned national public health officials about it. Public Health Reports (now Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report), a weekly journal produced by the U.S. Public Health Service to alert health officials to outbreaks of communicable diseases throughout the world, published his warning. In the first six months of 1918, this would be the only reference in that journal to influenza anywhere in the world.

Historians and epidemiologists have previously ignored Haskell most likely because his report was not published until April and it referred to deaths on March 30, after influenza outbreaks elsewhere. In actuality, by then the county was free of influenza. Haskell County, Kansas, is the first recorded instance anywhere in the world of an outbreak of influenza so unusual that a physician warned public health officials. It remains the first recorded instance suggesting that a new virus was adapting, violently, to man. ['gain of function,' but not by human hands, yet; and if just by chance, then it still could have taken advantage of a relative immune suppression in those soldiers in the immediate post-vaccination period.--Fla Mom] All Army personnel from the county reported to Funston for training. Friends and family visited them at Funston. Soldiers came home on leave, then returned to Funston. ... These men, and probably others unnamed by the paper, were exposed to influenza and would have arrived in Funston between February 26 and March 2. On March 4 the first soldier at the camp reported ill with influenza at sick call. The camp held an average of 56,222 troops. Within three weeks more than eleven hundred others were sick enough to require hospitalization, and thousands more – the precise number was not recorded – needed treatment at infirmaries scattered around the base. Whether or not the Haskell virus did spread across the world, the timing of the Funston explosion strongly suggests that the influenza outbreak there did come from Haskell. Meanwhile Funston fed a constant stream of men to other American locations and to Europe, men whose business was killing. They would be more proficient at it than they knew."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/

Former Army Preventive Medicine colleagues of mine have published their work, studying contemporaneous pathology results, that show that most who died, died *with,* not *from,* The Great Influenza; instead, they developed post-viral bacterial lung infections that killed them.

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Angus McPherson's avatar

Very interesting. Thanks for the detailed input.

I recently read that aspirin had just become available, and another reason so many people died is that they were poisoned with an overdose of aspirin. Typical daily does these days if not more than 4g per day. But the US Army medicos were giving between 8 and 30+ grams per day.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19788357/

It seems that cure being worse than the disease isn't historically unusual.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Thanks, very interesting. Perhaps multi-factorial. There's certainly a reason that "primum non nocere - first, do no harm" is an ancient dictum in medicine.

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Copernicus's avatar

Re cure being worse than the disease, check out the book Crooked by Forrest ?McCready (I think I have his name right). He reviews use of mercury and arsenic to treat illnesses in 1700s-1800s

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RunningLogic's avatar

Very interesting, thank you for sharing!

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Fla Mom's avatar

"The saeculum," as Strauss & Howe called the ~100-year cycle, in their books Generations and The Fourth Turning.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Interesting about the 100 year cycle, naming trends even follow that.

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J Boss's avatar

Fourth Turning is about an 80 year cycle...

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Kathy Boston's avatar

For anyone who follows Dr. David Martin on Twitter, yesterday, he posted a letter proving gain of function research at the University of North Carolina. 2014

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

UNC Chapel Hill also the developed the death drug Remdesivir.

If they didn't kill you with UNC's weaponized coronavirus, they will kill you with the "cure."

https://sph.unc.edu/sph-news/remdesivir-developed-at-unc-chapel-hill-proves-effective-against-covid-19-in-niaid-human-clinical-trials/

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Wasn’t Fauxci a shareholder in Remdesivir?

I recall an article in corporate media (probably scrubbed now) about UAB (University of Alabama - Birmingham, a research hospital) using Remdesivir in partnership w/ NIH-Fauxci. So basically patients given R were not treated w/ it bc it worked but to see if it did work. Sadly many of us in Alabama know some harmed by this “miracle” drug.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Correct. Fauci has a financial interest in the company that makes Remdesivir.

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Margaret Laub's avatar

Would you post tweet url please? Thank you.

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Margaret Laub's avatar

Thank you!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thanks Maureen. I wonder if this was the beginning of baric’s reign.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Appalling to know that this stuff is going on within 50 miles of my home.

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Fla Mom's avatar

It may not affect UNC directly, but I surely hope y'all elect Mark Robinson as your next Governor.

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RunningLogic's avatar

He’s awesome!!!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

"But the Cold War is over. The problem seems to be that we never dismantled the Cold War ":"dirty tricks” apparatus."

Agreed. The lessons learned from the Cold War showed that propaganda is a very powerful and valuable business. So even though the war was over, no one wants to give up that power. Hence, we "propagandize" more events so that we can continually use the power that war brings.

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Peter GL's avatar

the Cold War is over? Then why are we still considering Russia an enemy? Could it be their morals, something the US had in spades and now seems to have forgotten?

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Peter GL's avatar

Indeed, but basically the same. And Biden’s US is not the same as Trump’s.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Ike was right, when he warned of a military-industrial complex. Maybe he sshould have called it a moneymaker, not a complex.

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votecreatedequal's avatar

Who says the cold war is over? Read Golitsyn. The rumors of communism death is greatly exaggerated.

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Credenda's avatar

Yes I agree but the Communism is here, not there. You want Marxism? Look around at all our major institutions. We resemble the USSR now. We exchanged our freedom for a little security with the Patriot Act. Don’t talk to me about communism. It’s alive and well here. I don’t think we can take our government back unless God does a mighty work here.

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devoalan's avatar

Or we insist on the constitution, by force of arms.

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daverkb's avatar

We are as bad as any of the pre-Khrushchev de-Stalinization Soviet rule. The camps are just around the corner if not stopped. We have already seen probable mass sterilization and mass murder and maiming with the Terror Health Campaign. What makes it so much worse than the worst of the historical Communist Human Infernos is the technology. And house imprisonment and masking, job and business killing rules and regulations? All the false flag and propaganda campaigns run on us? The evidence is pretty plain ... and very clear.

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votecreatedequal's avatar

The communism is there you don't see it but Putin is kgb and he is good at faking. He and China are in bed together. Read Golitsyn.

Communism is indeed here courtesy of the hundred year plan.

The main remedy is to appeal to America's exceptional created equal. Which happens to dovetail with JC.

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Credenda's avatar

If Russia and China are in bed together it’s because we marched them to the bed.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

WE are the commies now.

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votecreatedequal's avatar

Read Whitaker Chambers. "We" were the commies in 1950, via the embedded spies from Russia. Their plan has unfolded to make us communist. But that does *not* mean Russia is not Communist, however holy she may fake. Read Golitsyn they planned the fake death of communism in 1989 so that conservatives would let down guard.

I would compare Putin to trump.

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

the link between more "active" leprosy and the mRNA shots makes TOTAL SENSE to me! I'm a gardener and touch a lot of poison ivy and oak, all the time, sometimes I get itchy but I never had a real reaction. until spring of 2021, at which time I had such a severe reaction to an incidental touch (which I don't remember) while covered (as I usually am) that I ended up in the hospital. it exploded from one hand to my entire body! that had never ever happened before. so ok, now I'm allergic, right? except this season since I've been doing so much better from my other shot symptoms, and I guess I was feeling curious - so I touched it on purpose. a few times! and nothing! back to the normal maybe localized itching. weird, huh?

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I am not a gardener for a living, but I have a lot of flower beds and spend a lot of time working on them in the warm weather months. Your story reminded me of an incident I had ~20 years ago. A wooded area was being cleared for a construction project next to my office's parking lot and the contractor produced a huge pile of mulch one spring and posted some notices in the office building about free mulch. Borrowed my dad's pickup and hubby and I loaded it up and took home to spread over our gardens. The next day had a similar reaction to yours, started on my hands and then went everywhere, didn't land in the hospital but took a couple of trips to the doc to clear it up. "Experts were baffled" I am not allergic to poison ivy and doc said it was not consistent with poison ivy or oak. Hubby had no reaction. I've stuck to bagged mulch ever since, though.

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Peace's avatar

Pthalocyanine - You were brave to purposely touch the poison ivy/oak on purpose - glad your immune system has ramped back to normal!!

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Angela's avatar

Always learn something new with C&C. Today I learned Florida Man is one of Jeff's neighbors 🤣🤣

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RunningLogic's avatar

😂😂😂

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BCG vaccination is against tuberculosis & is given at birth in countries with high levels of tb.

The warning reads to me that getting the BCG vax triggers an immune response that can cause latent leprosy to turn clinical, clinical leprosy to turn "reactive" (causing neurological disease) & cause people exposed to leprosy patients to get leprosy.

And getting the covid jab can cause the same kind of immune response, so "theoretically" have the same effect.

So the Florida "outbreak" (of a single case) was likely a latent case turned active. Same deal as shingles.

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JW's avatar

I'm a bit surprised they have not started a TB scare also. Maybe next.

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Martha's avatar

Nah ~ they wouldn't want to call attention to the border crisis:

Thousands of illegal immigrant children with tuberculosis released in US, report says

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/07/thousands-of-illegal-immigrant-children-with-tuberculosis-released-in-u-s/

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M VARR's avatar

If you dig into the stats...there are leprosy increases in all states with large numbers illegal

invaders.

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Albert Steed's avatar

I disagree about our Cold War strategies.

We’ve been bullies and have caused a tremendous amount of tragedy in the world.

At the time the Cold War strategies may have seemed appropriate, but I now see that they were catastrophic.

It’s time to apply the lessons learned and do things differently.

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Jaci's avatar

Cold War strategies were never appropriate. US govt needs to find its rightful place which is not interfering with other sovereign countries. I am embarrassed as to what our country has done around the world.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Just one more belief system that has been turned upside down in recent years. Not only have we harmed other countries through war, but from exporting our immorality. It's bad when the Russians call us out for being depraved and the Chinese call us out for war mongering.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

US are the baddies.

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Sam's avatar

Congress included in the ndaa the right to declare the Black Sea an important US geostratigic area which means we are going to increase our futzing around in Russia’s backyard.

https://actmedia.eu/daily/us-senate-passes-black-sea-security-bill/104169

"With this action, the U.S. Senate confirms the Black Sea's status as a region of critical geostrategic importance and ushers in a new era of U.S. engagement in the region. The U.S. Senate is also expressing, for the first time, by approving this bill, strong support for a comprehensive U.S. engagement in the Black Sea region, together with allies and partners, in strategic areas such as security and defense, economy, energy and democratic resilience",

Imagine their reaction if Russia started playing in the Gulf of Mexico or in the waters between Hawaii and America. This is why it’s called American Exceptionalism. Geese and ganders are not equal.

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VRand's avatar

Albert, I agree with you 100%. Conservatives need to stop defending our foreign policy, especially when it involves the military complex. It is not anti-American to disagree with the government’s foreign policy. The Founding Fathers would be shocked and disgusted at what the US has done to interfere around the world, including what we did during the Cold War. Unfortunately, I agree totally with the Chinese Foreign Minister, and it’s sad it had to come from him, not from our politicians or church leaders. I will no longer applaud a politician who promises to give additional monetary support to the military, even if that’s Trump or DeSantis doing it.

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VRand's avatar

Yes, of course, but conservatives have traditionally supported the military and foreign intervention for the most part.

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Peter GL's avatar

seems to me the US only learns lessons and does things differently in sports. Unfortunately war is NOT a sport, though the warmongers in the swamp don't want to read the memo

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Roger Beal's avatar

As long as the revenue streams flow wide and deep, nothing will change. Ike was right.

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devoalan's avatar

PDT was on the way, hence coronavirus. I say our greatest ally could have been Russia, we could have pulled out of nato, the UN, all if it was coming. Imagine, the largest Christian white nation in the world is our sworn enemy. I told you,politicians are fucking stupid. Prove me wrong.

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