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FourWinds's avatar

I personally think you should just keep right on doing what you are doing, Jeff, and do it how you are doing it. You turned my dad from "I'm going to get the 'covid' shot so I can be protected" to "No way I'll ever get another booster" and a refusal of both the RSV and annual flu jab because he saw the corruption that was/is happening. I could not convince him, even with crying, begging, pleading and a genuine nervous breakdown to stay away from the clot shots, but you did simply by telling the truth as you saw it. So I figure I owe you and am grateful. Had it not been for you being you, he'd likely still be on the clot shot bandwagon or dead, like 3 of his friends. I say you keep going as is.

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Peter Schott's avatar

I'll bite - how did you get your dad to read anything going against the narrative? I still have relatives who are ready to line up for every new shot. :(

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FourWinds's avatar

I was reading C&C one day and of course was laughing at Jeff's sarcasm, which I appreciate. There was one part that was particularly hilarious, I can't remember which one now, so I copied and pasted and sent to my dad. I believe it had something to do with democrat corruption, which my dad already believed in strongly. Anyhow, he thought it was funny. But he also read the rest of the thing, which mentioned "covid" corruption as well. I think the seed was planted then. Over the next week or so, I kept forwarding C&C to him. He finally wanted to subscribe. Now he reads every day and his attitude has changed about the jabs 180 degrees. So I guess it was presenting him with an article he would agree with and then he read the rest. Thank God.

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Verve's avatar

AMAZING!!! So few success stories these days, FourWinds, this absolutely made my day to hear this. You just planted a seed, and look what happened. The C&C train has left the station... can't wait to see how many other heads and hearts are converted. Have a wonderful day!

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rolandttg's avatar

wish I was so lucky. I forwarded it for several months to both of my sister in laws, the branch covidian just to P _ _ _ her off, and the younger one to try and enlighten her. After talking to her at the last family holiday dinner, I followed up with an offer to make her favorite meal and cocktail and let her and her husband ask me any questions they wanted. "Thanks for the generous offer, but I thing we'll pass " was her response. It was a waste, as she still trusts her doctor, the 4 stupidest words anyone can utter in the English language.

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Verve's avatar

I like how you made that offer. Dinner and cocktails, let's just talk. Very few people even do that post-lockdown. The old order of leftists would have jumped at the chance, especially because they believed so heartily in their own causes they would have loved a free meal, drink your booze and pontificate on their own causes. It was a win-win for them. Today, I don't know what the hell happened. They've been groomed to a level of lock down thinking that is so base, it's defined by a white hot hatred of any other thought that would question their own narrative. You become an actual threat because this narrative has become their religion and their god. All the best to you!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

“You become an actual threat because this narrative has become their religion and their god.”

That is why it’s so nefarious.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

“been groomed to a level of lock down thinking” -- YES!

Another casualty of “lockdowns” during covidmania.

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KPCon's avatar

Wow....the resonates deeply with my experience with many I USED to be close to. So much loss through this debacle, it has been devastating.

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

It sounds like the original poster cut and paste only the part the dad would buy into first. The dad liked that part of Jeff's commentary so much, he then read the entire c&c next, not realizing Jeff was going to red pill him. It was actually strategic and God took her dad further than anyone thought possible.

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FourWinds's avatar

Truthfully, I can't remember if I sent only that part or the whole thing the first time. Regardless, yes, thank God, it worked.

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Verve's avatar

totally agree!!

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Susan's avatar

I offered to donate to someone's favorite charity if they would read or watch videos. They were all "too busy."

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Verve's avatar

wow.

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ILoveherbs's avatar

Very creative!

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Michele's avatar

Because you have been pushing straight instead of pussy-footing to drive them where you want, in a place of questioning, you frightened them. And they pushed back. Propagandised people have a very very fragile ego, and this is the very reason why they are so vulnerable and touchy. They HATE realising they have been wrong. You have to take the commando approach in a fatigue and approaching slowly.... Hahahaha!

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CaplT's avatar

I think articles in the early days when it was darkest were very effective. Glimmers of light in the dark.

Covid has unmasked the authoritarianism that most thought did not exist. Mask mandates, jab mandates, financial repercussions, employment repercussions.

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Michele's avatar

¨You are free to choose but if you do not get it, you loose your job¨. I told my friends about Nuremberg and that it was highly illegal and that perpetrators could end up badly ¨Following orders is not an excuse¨ didn't work. I told them it is EX-PE-RI-MEN-TAL! Asked them content of the vaxx. But since they said it is safe on TV! You know... Anyway I am lucky so far, 1 friend only suffered consequences, blood clot near heart. But alive and now visiting a cardiologist regularly.

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FourWinds's avatar

I'm so sorry. At least you tried, and really that is all any of us can do.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

She ‘“thinks she will pass” because your SIL doesn’t want to know anything about the Jabs, and the giant SCAM that COVID and the COVID Vaxxes continue to be...she doesn’t want to know about the error of her thinking and the decisions she (and her husband) made to get the Jabs. And even if they have experienced some ‘side effects’ from the Jabs, they will never admit the connection to their present state of health and the Jabs.

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korigon's avatar

And worse with this thinking if she had jabbed kids.

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AngelaK's avatar

In a doctor's office waiting room yesterday I overheard a conversation between two women. One said that besides the issue which had her in the doctor's office, she had a scary hospital stay with blood clots and a small stroke because of the 2 covid vaccines and a bout of covid. She kind of whispered that part out of fear she might offend someone? The other lady said to her that it was probably because her system was overloaded with covid. Then some comment about how they (gvt?) reacted too quickly or something.

Anyway, it is finally being talked about in real life, outside of safe spaces and the internet.

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IR's avatar

I just want to say that some elementary and middle schools are now offering EKG screenings to students. I’ve never heard about anything like that being offered before. Something is up. What have they done to children? Unless it’s a move to push for school based clinics and to offer more medical services through schools as I heard there was something in the works in this regard.

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Sunlover's avatar

I wonder if anyone thinks about their children being able to get health insurance in the future if they are shown to already have baseline heart damage? At this point, if I was a parent, I would be super angry to find out the useless shot probably affected both my child’s physical health and financial health for the rest of their lives. I do t know what it’s going to take for parents to revolt and rise up against these medical tyrants pushing shot after shot on their kids.

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Fred's avatar

They’re not in quite as much denial as we think; they just can’t say anything (sorta like the corporate docs 🤬). No excuse!

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Anthony's avatar

At my doctor's office they are taking EKG to get a baseline against potential future heart issues. I suspect this is just that. In case they have one even as an adult.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Does anyone else remember the "Suri" ad about the young girl with myocarditis? Predictive programming at its worst. https://clashdaily.com/2022/09/watch-new-ad-begins-the-normalization-of-rare-childhood-myocarditis-what-suddenly-changed/

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Michele's avatar

Don't we know it is normal for kids to have heart attacks?

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Robin Landry's avatar

Jeff’s humor is the soft sell, and his vast knowledge does the rest. He should start his editorials with ‘gentle reader’. 🥰

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

The power of laughter/humor...

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Verve's avatar

Truly!!! I LIVE for the dopamine hits with my coffee each morning!

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walk2write's avatar

Does your dad read the comments too? If he does, he would be understandably proud of your contribution to the conversation.

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FourWinds's avatar

Thank you for your kind words. :) I can't get him to do the comments just yet. I'm working on it because you all have such good and funny things to say. Sometimes I read them to him, so he is getting some comments at least. :)

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Befferz's avatar

I learn so much from the comments! And humor opens many a closed mind. It catches them off guard & leaves a small opening. Sometimes that's enough. Glad it was with your dad! 🙏

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Michele's avatar

RESOUNDING YES!

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SB's avatar

Awesome! Way to go FourWinds and Jeff! Changing minds every day!

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Copernicus's avatar

What an awesome story! Thanks for sharing! Praise God!

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RunningLogic's avatar

That was a very smart technique!

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Awesome - I too appreciate the "main dish" delivered with a bit of sarcasm on the side, Cheers!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

What a powerful testimony on telling truth (thank you Jeff!) and sharing. 💕

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Christy's avatar

I love that story fourwinds!!!! That’s encouraging to so many of us!

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

And the humor!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You can't remember which article or sarcastic remark it was? 🤣

I am NOT making fun of your lack of memory!! 🤣🤣

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FourWinds's avatar

I get it. But yes, my memory is bad but I can laugh at it! :) 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Jacquie's avatar

That’s awesome! 👍

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

❤️❤️❤️

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

BRILLIANT

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J Walker's avatar

Congrats! I'm still sharing and talking about C&C newsletter to anyone who will listen. Hope to change perspectives for those I care about.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

My husband of 37 years is about the get his 4th AND the flu shot.

I on the other hand, will never vaccinate another living creature as long as I live.

HOW DO YOU GUYS GET THEM TO SEE THE LIGHT???? My husband won’t even let me finish a sentence. My 3 grown children, 2 of whom got 2 shots, will never get another. My son planned to get them all and wound up getting none! He has seen the light. He actually

listened to

ME and to Rogan!!! I’m in awe.

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Annie's avatar

I hope this doesn't sound harsh, but make sure his life insurance policy is increased. When I couldn't talk my husband out the the J&J to keep his job back in 2021, I insisted he raise the benefit amount of his policy. It may seem cold, but the risk is great.

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Barb's avatar

I was going to comment about life insurance as well.

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AusYank's avatar

The Global Head of Capgemini's Insurance Industry consultancy said the industry is baffled and alarmed by the spike in deaths under 45. Oh what could it be. But they are starting to notice https://insurancenewsnet.com/innarticle/excess-mortality-continuing-surge-causes-concerns

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Michele's avatar

Puzzled. Baffled. Flaggerblasted. confused , baffled , mystified, stumped, at a loss, perplexed, bewildered , clueless, dumbstruck, dumbfounded, thrown, nonplussed, confounded, staggered , doubtful , unsure, not sure is the new normal.

THERE IS NO ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!

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Michele's avatar

See my post above, in FRance.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Great minds think alike.

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Jlbg8r@gmail.com's avatar

My Dr asked if I’d had my flu shot. I said “I will never ever get another flu shot.” She said “did you get the Covid vax? “ I said, “never will….NO”

She said “are you anti-vax?”

I said “I never was before FAUCHI. “She sat there in her little mask and said, “HMMMMMM”

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

My comment from a previous day’s post ended up being the following rant:

I find it appalling that the Pharma industry, via the defense industry, creates a ‘new’ vaccine in ‘months’ and it is blindly recommended for everyone. It isn’t even a vaccine. It is an immunologic. The lies around the covid jab are tremendous and yet the vast majority of the medical establishment are still spouting the ‘safe and effective’ mantra. Show me the studies showing that, especially ones which are not done by Pharma with a pre-approved outcome in place to get the funding. Show me the autopsies of those who died within a month of vaccination of things we KNOW can be adverse effects of the ‘vaccine.’ Show me a government agency whose employees and whose budgets are not captured by money from Big Pharma to recommend their products. It is a clown show beyond compare. I have NO faith in any of the alphabet soup of government agencies and aside from trauma and surgical care, I have little faith in a lot of allopathic medicine. It is a multi-pronged problem. The vast majority of people want a pill to ‘fix’ their issue. Newly diagnosed high BP—here’s a pill. People want a quick easy fix. That isn’t what they need. They need a swift kick in their pants to change their lifestyles, their diets, their habits. Our food supply is mostly processed crap. Even our fruits and veggies are grown with pesticides and fertilizers and in soil depleted by over farming such that even a ‘healthy’ diet doesn’t cut it. Most supplements are also minimally bioavailable and a waste of money. Doctors are busy working, they don’t have much free time to read, do, and study to see how awful the recommendations from the alphabet soup are mostly corrupt and worthless. It’s disheartening to continually say that I work with some of the smartest dumb people going. The true history of all vaccines is pretty awful, the history of the Covid vaccine, that we know, is terrible. I am a damn good nurse. I care so much about my coworkers, my patients, and my students, but it is disillusioning to have my entire career field blindly follow big Pharma down the path to sickness and death for so many, because money, because greed, because power, because ‘they said’ to take it, do it, give it, prescribe it. Etc. Look into the truth about remdesivir and ivermectin and tell me how doctors were/are losing their licenses for prescribing ivermectin to their patients. It makes NO sense! It is getting beyond criminal to diabolical in my opinion. Our world is going to hell in a handbasket made by big Pharma, guided by a ruling class selling us down the road of lies in so many other areas—global warming, green energy, the new world order, the corrupt policies of the federal reserve, our growing national debt to the federal reserve….its all a crock of crap and lies. BUT GOD IS IN CONTROL, so I continue to try to learn the truth, speak the truth, live the truth, and love on anyone around me. That’s what I want to base my life on…TRUTH…I don’t care where it leads and what it shows. I am fine admitting that I have gotten something wrong and learning something new. I want to know the truth. I think there will be so many pediatricians, when they get to heaven, who will be heartbroken at the absolute harms they caused so many of their small patients with routine vaccines. I think many physicians and nurses and healthcare providers will be devastated at the harms they, too, perpetrated because of blind trust and an ideology way off base from true health. Anyway, rant over! May our eyes be opened to truth, so we can all learn together and live honorably, and love each other!

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

yes, it has steamrollered its full-speed-ahead demolition "beyond criminal to diabolical" ~ exactly my opinion, as well.

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FourWinds's avatar

These people never cease to amaze me! They just don't get it.

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Michele's avatar

Good on you!

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Good for you. Maybe she also needs to hear this comment: “Don’t pin a label on me, just because I choose to not put certain products into my body.” I’m so glad I stopped going to these conventional doctors (for years now, I see a functional medicine MD).

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KBB's avatar

If you are living in close proximity to such a heavily jabbed person, you owe it to yourself to read Dr. Kory's 8-part substack laying out the evidence that your husband is probably shedding spike protein that will likely make you sick. Assuming divorce is not an option (it's too late anyway) there are detox protocols you can follow to try to protect yourself. It's a bit depressing since by this time we have ALL been exposed to people who are shedding, but especially with a jab-happy spouse or close-proximity family member you should be fully informed. Dr. Kory's Part One is at this link; it has the links to the rest of the series at the end.

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/shedding-of-covid-mrna-vaccine-components

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

Thank you for mentioning not vaccinating another living thing. I have a 17 year old completely indoor kitty who has been vaccinated only twice, and a 15 yo chihuahua mix who has had several but we have skipped some years. At this point I’m not letting her have anymore, and the oral flea stuff is poison imho.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

We use Ivermectin for our puppy to prevent fleas and ticks 1x per month. We also will use goat dewormer every 6 months... The breeder gave us the list of what she uses. Only first vaccines, then no more rabies other than the first one... We've just added a puppy after a 15 yr hiatus from pets due to worsening asthma that I no longer have... because when covid hit, we used Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquin for 5 days (to get well quickly). It took 48 hours to be symptom free. And the "highly toxic and so dangerous it will kill you horse dewormer" healed me from life long asthma...

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CraigN's avatar

Could you expand on the asthma please? I have at least one grand child with asthma and certain her mother would be open to trying something different. TY.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

We took Ivermectin for covid along with the Hydroxychloroquin, zinc, vit C and D and a z-pak. I noticed fairly quickly (within 12 hours) that my cough was gone and my chest wasn't tight. By day two I continued to feel better, as if my asthma was going away. I would have usually needed my inhalers and quite possibly prednisone with an upper respiratory infection, but the virus was almost completely gone. Within 48 hours no symptoms. My asthma and my long time cough were gone. That was December 25th-27th 2021. I no longer have asthma. Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic. When I was examined and scoped in 2011 for an acute asthma event, the biopsy showed increased eosinophils... which can be caused by parasites... It is quite possible that the Ivermectin took care those... and cured my asthma. Ivermectin is safe, billions of prescriptions have been written. It is also one of the 5 greatest drugs ever pavailable according to the WHO.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

100% AGREE

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Fred's avatar

Oh Lordy, even now??? So sorry!

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Even now…

The irony is, 37 years ago when we got

married, he was all naturopath this & that, used only osillicoxemim for colds and flu. I’d never heard of

any of that & just thought he was interesting.

His MOM drank straight chlorophyll and ate cacao instead of chocolate. I’m deeply suspicious of anyone who doesn’t eat chocolate! 😝 As to the chlorophyll, I just hoped she’d look in a mirror one day and see that she isn’t a PLANT.

Anyway, 37 years later, she eats a lot

of chocolate, ONLY drinks water and my

husband??? He goes to the doctor for every little hang nail and slathers

on sunscreen like Krispy Kreme glazes

donuts.

I’m the weirdo who purposely gets bee stings on my

arthritic joints! (Don’t laugh. It works!)

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Michele's avatar

Yes it works. There are remedies that use that. And nettles for circulation. Not my cup of favourite remedies! Hahahaha!

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Fred's avatar

🤣 Okay, this is Jeff quality writing right there! 😁 Thanks for brightening my evening! (Upgraded husband’s iPhone iOS and it hasn’t worked since. I did the same upgrade; no issues. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ Still trying… ) Mrs Fred

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Verve's avatar

I am so deeply sorry to hear this. I have family doing the same.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Assuming you still have any kind of physical relationship and live in the same house please consider taking strong actions against the effects of shedding. Dr. Pierre Kory has a series of stacks on this subject. FLCCC has a protocol. https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/shedding-of-covid-mrna-vaccine-components

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Michele's avatar

In FRance, they refused to pay a life insurance because the guy has committed suicide -technically- by getting injected with an EXPERIMENTAL substance. And for once, I know they do not like to pay, but they are right. I'd like to know whether those insurance companies required their employees to commit suicide, by the way...

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Michele's avatar

It is tough! I have a friend in that situation, all kids vaxxed, yet they call her nuts! Very hard on her! And after vaxx, she visited them, and her son -she was not even started to make a comment- said Shut up, Mum, OK, shut up¨ because he had Covid which you know, you will not get it, > You will get it mild blahblahblah... Ad libitum. And her daughter had a clot in her leg...

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John infinity N's's avatar

Like other have commented this may sound cold also, but when the shots came out there were some resources that provided a pre written type of contract for spouses that basically said the other spouse will not be responsible to take care of the spouse who decides to take the shot. I guess that frees the one spouse from becoming a care taker for life since the other spouse made a self destructive decision. The contract did list all the risks that the spouse would agree to. Sickness and health wedding vows and all, but its kind of the same thing if one spouse gets deep into heroine or something, the other spouse didnt sign up for that at the altar.

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Elaine H's avatar

If you read Pierre Kory, MD, you can be at risk when your husband gets vaccinated from his shedding.

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Salty K's avatar

It seems to me, for those closest to us, it’s not entirely what is said or even how, it’s more about who is saying it.

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Susan Banks's avatar

So true!! My two boys make me so mad that they think I would lie to them. I have never lied to them. I ask them, who do you think taught you how to talk? Or walk? Did I teach you anything wrong? It's so crazy! Now if Biden came on and said it, they would believe it! And that damn pedophile is dead!!!

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MaryAnn's avatar

Nailed it 🎯

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Dakota Grace's avatar

Bingo. Sometimes it has to come from someone else. Like Jeff. If you can get them to read.

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Yes, me too - they just simple trust Fauci, the CDC and the government - it's is their blood and now so is the plasmid DNA containing SV 40 - so sad...

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Susan Banks's avatar

Do you think the ones who were vaccinated and had no reaction at all, still have that? Thank you! God Bless you.

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Janet's avatar

Time will tell. I hope they don’t.

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Michele's avatar

I read an article that said Pfizer had different batches (including a special placebo one for their staff), some were straight killers, others slow killers and some inoffensive or lesser.

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Susan Banks's avatar

Thank you Michele. Blue States were the lesser of the States with the least amount of Deaths per thousand. Red States have the most. So sick. They know where the worst batches went. Some Countries have so many. And still dying!!! I wonder if these deaths that Jeff posts, are from new Vaccines that have just come out?

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Michele's avatar

I don't know! All I know that, compared to what those monsters did to humanity, Hitler was a choir boy!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That is awesome FourWinds!! What great encouragement for us. I have forwarded this to many people and several are now regular subscribers. Can’t say they were braindead covidians, but still…every person including ourselves can learn from the truth.

And I so appreciate the balance Jeff brings with telling the truth, reporting factual stuff, corrections if he makes an error, not getting on any bandwagons and encouraging us to keep it local and showing us why! He is moving the needle more than these conservative “influencers” (I abhor that word too) who blather on about braindead biden and Superman. Once again, Jeff nailed it today! Thank you sir!

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Leo's avatar

Yes, avoiding the bandwagons! SO rare.

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Susan Banks's avatar

That's because he has no Ego! I love it!!

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MaryAnn's avatar

Agree! There is considerable fear-mongering rhetoric from the conservative side of the influence industry. Too bad they stoop to the level above which they claim to be. 😖

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BBS's avatar

I unsubscribed from a dozen other sites because all they do is spew passionate rants with nothing to back them up. Yes, it's what I want to hear, but it's not what I need to hear. How is that any different from MSM with their non-stop lies and manipulations.

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Paula's avatar

Couldn’t agree more, BSS. I’m steadily unsubscribing from the doom scrolling sites and sticking with the ones which actually inform me!

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Paula's avatar

Sorry: BBS not BSS

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Janet's avatar

A purging is coming for me as well.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I just want to chime in that I appreciate Jeff’s approach to only presenting things with real

evidence using his lawyer eyes. This helps in convincing unbelievers. However, admittedly, there are many issues I wish Jeff would cover and offer suggestions on…. like for ex the WHO and CBDC. ;) We love you Jeff.

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Leo's avatar

Lisa, yes - would love to hear more on the WHO/WEF ! Jeff commented some time ago that if/when the WHO treaty went into effect in the USA, there would be tons of law suits - so not to worry. But I do...

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Mary H.'s avatar

Jeff, YOU are saving lives ! We ALL need to continue to plant seeds .

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Dr Linda's avatar

I have recently had the same experience multiple times. When someone tells me that mores time than not the phrase “Thank God” escapes from my mouth.

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WP William's avatar

Jeff your legal-minded restraint is simultaneously required yet frustrating at times for your C&C readers but creatively crafting and narrating a believable reality to a judge or jury while another party does so with a competing analysis and version or opinion IS your job. The amalgam of portrayed potential truths and perceived facts and consensus of conclusion that a ruling comes to is NOT ever 100% comprehensive nor Just nor Truthful but an approximation of these and hopefully mostly correct. WE will fume when we don't see enough passion or a proper weight given on a topic but we are most often merely witnesses, or observers sitting in the court room with the theater playing out in front of us inspired to jump in and make a different play call or tell the referee that he/she is both unfair and blind. We need legal empowerment and appetite and training to undertake what is required to combat the destruction of our birthright system by THE SYSTEM itself and those who've hijacked it and now use it against us and darkly view the results as their moral imperative. (Only speaking for myself perhaps).

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Victoria's avatar

I agree, WP. I am so thankful for Jeff's words because they teach me lawyer thinking. Jeff teaches me how to carefully read a sentence, and how to wait before pouncing. I am more comfortable with farming things, and can talk gopher-hunt strategy all day; I hope Jeff knows that he reaches a wide variety of people and professions. We all encounter many souls as we live our lives and one never knows which tiny little comment is the planted seed

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Leo's avatar

Yes, and I am not frustrated by Jeff's postings, I am grateful for any grounded and supportable dialogue whether by Jeff or his readers.

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Raptor's avatar

WHAT? I am so happy for you about your dad! You never know what will flip them. What a blessing!

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RunningLogic's avatar

This is great, love that Jeff helped persuade your dad!

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AngelaK's avatar

In a doctor's office waiting room yesterday I overheard a conversation between two women. One said that besides the issue which had her in the doctor's office, she had a scary hospital stay with blood clots and a small stroke because of the 2 covid vaccines and a bout of covid. She kind of whispered that part out of fear she might offend someone? The other lady said to her that it was probably because her system was overloaded with covid. Then some comment about how they (gvt?) reacted too quickly or something.

Anyway, it is finally being talked about in real life.

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CaplT's avatar

Same here. Spouse bought into the fear now never again.

I occasionally forwarded Jeff’s emails starting late 2021 and I just remarked “funny.” The snark, legal perspective and optimism lured in the fish.

I occasionally forwarded links by doctors, McCullough or someone else, that I learned about including from C&C commenters and just remarked “interesting.”

This is an excellent group of commenters, and a (mostly) well behaved and concerned bunch without (mostly) pile-ons.

Commenters here tend to back up statements with links, so comments are as valuable as Jeff’s articles.

Now we are both subscribed and spouse is in charge of boosting both of our our immune systems, not jabboosting.

Spouse has said to many people “I regret having taken the shots” and can explain why. I never said “I told you so” and will not.

My only success but an important one.

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Susan Banks's avatar

That is so awesome to hear!! Wish my two Sons would read!! I agree with what you said to Jeff!

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I should get my dad to read C&C!!! Great idea!!

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Jay Horton's avatar

Well said 4W!

Later Jay

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I loved when Vivek went after the media. "“Think about who’s moderating this debate, this should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk. We’d have 10 times the viewership, asking questions the GOP primary voters actually care about and bring in more people to our party. We got Kristen Welker here, you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate?” Ramaswamy asked.

“The fact of the matter, and Kristen I’m gonna use this time cause this is actually about you and the media and the corrupt media establishment, ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years — was that real? Or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation? Answer the question. Go.”

https://dailycaller.com/2023/11/08/vivek-ramaswamy-nbc-debate-rnc-lester-holt-kristen-welker-tucker-carlson/

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GG's avatar

It's very telling who is going after Vivek for speaking the truth.

So many Republicans glommed onto Trump when they thought it would be advantageous to their political ambitions but the second Trump faced persecution, they went silent. Now they're criticizing anyone who dares to speak up. The Republican party is pathetic.

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Bandit's avatar

I watched a video yesterday of a split screen of Obummer and Vivek. First obummer's clip was played then Viveck's clip. Viveck's clips were essentially word for word what obummer said. I didn't trust him before (gut feeling), now I really don't trust him.

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GG's avatar

None of them are to be trusted! I've gotten flack because I even have questions about Trump, but I'm deadly serious when I say that. Am I paranoid? Sure am. Doesn't mean all these politicians aren't first rate traitorous rats!

That also doesn't negate the truth of what Vivek said. Or Obama, for that matter. As long as the message is getting out so people can consider these ideas, I don't care who they come from.

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Bandit's avatar

Obummer, FJB!, or Viveck. All the same.

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Leo's avatar

Right. Truth is Truth - regardless of who is speaking the words.

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Bandit's avatar

And a traitor to the country is a traitor to the country, no matter what color he is....or how slick.

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

I also have big questions about Trump.

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Susan Banks's avatar

He was groomed by obummer.

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

Thank you. In fact Vivek, who does impress me with his sharpness, is much like Hussein o, in that so little is really known about him. He’s not been vetted at all, he appears out of nowhere running for president. How does that happen? He’s groomed.

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Susan Banks's avatar

Just like Obummer!! I had never heard of him. All of a sudden this man with this so called compassionate voice, comes on the scene and the people went crazy for a Black President. And was brown for Muslim!! My truck driving brother told me all about him, and then he wouldn't put his hand over his heart for the beautiful National Anthem!! That was all I needed to know he wasn't for America!! And to know what he really was. I say he is the worst president we ever had!! God Bless.

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Jlbg8r@gmail.com's avatar

He’s trying hard to change the perception of him, but I don’t trust him either

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Dakota Grace's avatar

100 % agree. Something bugged me and then I listened and researched his Pharma and WEF ties. Hence why I can him Vivek Pharmaswampy. I stole that from someone else but it fits. He’s got a slick tongue and says what he thinks conservatives want to hear. He’s a swamp creature all the way.

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Jaci's avatar

I don't either, but appreciate the call out!

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Leo's avatar

Bandit, it isn't the words themselves, its the person who is speaking the words. Imagine if Jeff were speaking those words...would you then not trust Jeff?

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Bandit's avatar

It would make me stop and think for myself. It would make me compare those words with the copious things he's already said. It would make me think about him as a whole and how he has walked the walk.

Viveck is a little slick, maybe a little slimy? He sounds good, but we have no idea how he will follow up on what he says, but we've seen what someone that says all the right slogans does TO the country.

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TracyAnne's avatar

Agree. He says all the right things but there’s just something about his way that bothers me. A bit too slick and yes, maybe even a little slimy although that does seem harsh.…..

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Bandit's avatar

I don't know a word for mildly slimy. 😉😊😋

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GG's avatar

Not too harsh! We shouldn't shy from the truth just because it's unpalatable.

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MOMinator's avatar

Do you have a link? I’d love to see that. (Doesn’t surprise me)

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

I’ve seen it too. Sent to me. Wish I could find it as well- shows Vivek at dem conventions asking questions.

Too slick for me.

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Bandit's avatar

I wish I had saved the link. It was in a substack yesterday.

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AMEDD91CHARLIE's avatar

Vivek and some very suspect Private/Public partners started a Pharmaceutical Company, I agree with what he said last night, take a deep dive into this candidate and listen for the Obama speak, word for word. Interesting

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WP William's avatar

RENEGADE REPUBLICANS unite; start local but always express a national VISION and Internationally both a realistic but orderly and just view of a family of nations and peoples; push the weak-kneed Globalist Statist-Corporatist Relucticants in the GOP to writing checks and deciding to join in or fleeing a rising activist populist agenda--made so by THEIR own mis-dis and mal-performance for generations, their perpetual inaction and complicity to subvert the country and the working class in favor of the shirking class that wants to drive the bus and assign seating. There will be a few elitist defectors to the cause of saving the nation and restoring our heritage and birthright (at least Tucker thinks so?) Viva Vivek!

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Jay Horton's avatar

Nice!

Later Jay

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Salty K's avatar

Just curious…did you happen to see the rant MTG went on X yest about the republicans?

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GG's avatar

I did not. Do you have a link? I saw she's filed impeachment articles against Mayorkas because two of her constituents were killed by a coyote running illegals, but other than that, I haven't heard anything.

I am not her biggest fan. I think she's gross. I think she's loose and will do anything for attention. I think she serves a purpose in that she's so ridiculous and brings so much attention to herself that she's a wildcard for the GOP and I'm not opposed to that. I'm not opposed to anyone who stops them from doing business as usual.

I think she's just as compromised as the rest of the ruling class and that limits her effectiveness.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Vivek's opening observations about Ronna McDaniel, the GOP culture of losing, and the "Cheney in three-inch heels" line aimed at Nikki Haley were classic. The expression on Haley's face as Vivek went through her MIC curriculum vitae said it all. Vivek says the right things but, as always, mere rhetoric isn't worth much. It's a clown show.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Unfortunately, we may never know if Vivek's words would be backed up by action.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Vivek reminds me of Tulsi Gabbard's guerilla candidacy during the 2020 election cycle. She saw what the DNC had become and attempted to sound the alarm to party constituents. In the end, she was accused of being a 'Russian plant' to a chorus of applause led by the party establishment, Biden won, and she left the party. Like Tulsi, everything Vivek said is true. Also like Tulsi, Vivek's concerns will fall on deaf ears.

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Notyours's avatar

And Ron Paul will welcome them both to his (our) nightmare.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

There's a reason P.J. O'Rourke referred to them as the 'Uniparty'. They serve the same interests.

Tucker Carlson had an interesting exchange with Glenn Greenwald where they discussed how leading republicans such as Ron DeSantis are using the same censorship tactics to shut down critics of Israel that democrats have been using dating back to 2015. It took me back to the days following 9/11 when anyone who dared suggest that Iraqi complicity in 9/11 was absurd (and all that ensued such as the GWOT, Patriot Act, etc.) were shut down by Bush and the neocons as unpatriotic or, even worse, terrorist sympathizers. The parties take turns switching roles but the tactics are always the same.

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RU's avatar

I share the view and feel the pain. The GOP serves the same interests and the same people as the DNC. They are beholden to concepts like big government and globalization. Those things are why they are wealthy in the first place. It's why we keep sliding leftward no matter who is elected to what bodies of government.

Applying Jeff's Local >>> National model, the candidates that are "promoted" from local to state are the ones who are aligned with the interests of the people who own the party. No different than any other corporation.

But, it means we are always left thinking why does government just keep getting bigger, taxes worse, and the culture more libertine? Why do we keep getting "tricked" into wars and vaccines? Well, b/c the DNC and GOP are 100% aligned on those things and we don't have representatives beyond the local level in some places. And if those local candidates do try to move up the ladder, they get the McConnell treatment: defunded, slandered in the media as low quality candidates, held off committees, etc.

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DMang's avatar

Would love to hear P.J.’s takes on current events and the clowns in charge. His famous line “Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys” sums it up nicely. Party distinctions matter not one bit. They’re all part of the problem.

The Tucker-Greenwald interview was excellent. Both are immune to media/government pressure and are quick to point out hypocrisy where it clearly exists. P. J. did the same only he was able to make you laugh out loud at the same time.

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WP William's avatar

Evil Puppet Masters; sacrificing innocent masses and portraying it as freedom and security

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Christy's avatar

Yep. He is doing to the left that they are doing.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I think highly of Tulsi also.

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Truthseeker's avatar

I agree

Have you seen the footage of Vivek with Pete buttegieg when they were young at a Democratic event.. then he blip- totally disappeared off the political scene

And came out of nowhere

It sure makes me wonder if he is an operative disruptor placed by the DNC… he hits every talking point…. So it makes me think he’s a ‘plant’ and not genuine - at first I was intrigued… but the more I watch him … it’s too slick for me… makes my BS detector go up. I’m not sure he’s what he claims to be at all.

And we see how these deceptive people work… this new prostitute ring being exposed… Jeffry Epstein … we have to assume these people aren’t above this…

infiltrating the republicans under false premises

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CH's avatar

I have thought the same thing. It made me think about this story from Georgia where Landmark Communications was running Democrats on the Republican tickets.

https://www.georgiarecord.com/all-posts/2021/07/21/landmark-communications-the-republican-political-consulting-firm-in-atlanta-that-runs-democrats-as-republicans-some-with-ties-to-chinese-communist-party/

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Truthseeker's avatar

I had not heard about this- thanks for posting!

but yes- exactly my thinking. I think this is going on in politics right now. Planted operatives. 😳🤦🏼‍♀️

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CH's avatar

I bet Gerogia isn't the only state this happened in either.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I agree he could easily be a plant. If so, he's a GREAT actor.

I think that's why he hasn't gained much traction - because people don't believe he is authentic.

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Truthseeker's avatar

He’s a great speaker and pro debater.

Comments I’m reading are - Vivek really gave it to the GOP.

Uh-huh. There’s a possible motive. 🧐

Best way to discredit republicans is to get someone on the debate stage to do it.

It is Very very difficult to determine friend or foe today. And THAT is absolutely by design- so people lose the ability to think critically …and for themselves.

There’s a lot of deception everywhere today. Everyone needs to stay mentally strong today- and don’t fall for the constant DIVISION POLITICS they’re promoting.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

VERY unfortunately, it's gone past "divisive politics" and is now divisive justice, divisive medicine, divisive commerce... It's no longer just in the worlds of ideas and words. It is kinetic.

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Michele's avatar

Funny, he is so good at it. But I literally physically feels he lies. Or rather he tries to hypnotise you with % of truth and promises, yet he is cobra-izing you. Mongoose on board. We have developed our perception so much with the ¨pandemic¨. Sifting through and through all the BS! Thank you to the defunct Nazi WO for the free training.

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Michele's avatar

Agree! Usual playbook. All talk but do not expect actions following words. Things is we have sharpened our perceptions through all that elusive covid-virus BS, and we got our 6th, even maybe 7th sense, back on track. But hey, nice try! Vivek is false opposition. And best lies must include truths.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Exactly.

Why lie? Unless you’re hiding something. You don’t end up at this event by accident - ‘he was at Harvard’, isn’t an explanation.

“Vivek Ramaswamy claims he wasn’t politically engaged in the past, yet here he is on MSNBC asking a Democratic presidential candidate questions,”

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/vivek-ramaswamy-pete-buttigieg-2003-msnbc-town-hall/?amp

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Angk's avatar

There's conflicting evidence on Vivek. But huge cudos to him for shouting out what never gets said in public debate, or even on controlled msm. We watched for a few brief wasted moments. Vivek would toss out a truth bomb, and the rest would react like children. It's a clown show with Keebler elves.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I loved the "Cheney in 3" heels" quip. I have a feeling SNL will do something with that!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Actually, I don't think it's just oratory - he does believe it. Must we be so jaundiced?

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

I love what Vivek is saying. I would love seeing words backed up by deeds even more.

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Bandit's avatar

He says the exact same things obummer said. That POS sure helped the country, didn't he?

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Valid point. Obama conned a lot of people.

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Michele's avatar

I could not understand how people were mesmerised by that POS. Could read him from day 1.

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Jen's avatar

Couldn't agree more! Now we just need to make every word of this happen. Ronna must go.

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Verve's avatar

Ronna has *got* to be some kind of deep swamp operator. I agree she must go.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Ronna McDaniel is RINO Mitt Romney's NIECE. (Daughter of Mitt Romney's big brother.) Explains a lot.

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Verve's avatar

Wow I didn’t know that. Makes a whole lot of sense now. She was never very impressive and I guess that’s because she never really did (or does) anything significant for the party, she’s just a placeholder mouthpiece for the RINO establishment. She must have been spitting bullets when Trump was elected- she was probably more shocked than anyone. I was particularly troubled with how she wouldn’t even meet with or even acknowledge Brandon Straka from the #walkaway campaign back in 2021 - here’s a gay, liberal hairdresser from NYC who left the party, joined the MAGA movement and had a half a million followers on FB. This would have been the biggest marketing coup in the history of the Republican Party if she had acknowledged him

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??? It’s very telling that she wouldn’t use that to the party’s advantage!

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CMCM's avatar

Ahhhh.....now I see why she beat Harmeet Dhillon. Well, Ronna can certainly has been running everything behind a heck of a lot of Republican electoral losses the last few years.

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We need a revolution!'s avatar

Start with your local GOP office. We need to clean house!

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Fla Mom's avatar

I recommend starting by attending the meetings and volunteering, e.g., at voter registration events. That way, you can get to know the people currently involved and can figure out if they actually need to be cleaned out or if they too are patriots working to the same end that you want to. Ask who they voted for in certain Republican primaries, e.g., or what they know about those who control influential state- or local-level PACs. Questions like that, or just the general conversation, will be telling.

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We need a revolution!'s avatar

Great idea for those that aren't involved.

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Fla Mom's avatar

There's some conflict in at least one REC in Florida, because people answered the call from The Precinct Project, etc., but didn't spend any time figuring out if their REC was one that needed rescuing or not, so they just want everyone else to go away. Your comment about 'we need to clean house' put me in mind of it.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Excellent advice. I did exactly that myself. And learned that my local and state party is inexplicably being led to support Nikki Haley, even though the grass roots are firmly for Trump.

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Fla Mom's avatar

There's a fascinating split between the grassroots/MAGA folks and the mainstreamers in the Republican Party. The Old Guard tend to be the latter, and I think some resent the 'intruders' or 'interlopers' who are suddenly showing up. The smart ones are putting the newcomers to work, registering voters, etc. We can work as individuals for any candidate, but as party officials, even at precinct level, we have to be even-handed. It can engender real conflict if at the local or state level there's too much thumb on the scale during a primary. The Old Guard often are working as individuals through their many methods, like also being lobbyists or PAC owners.

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MaryAnn's avatar

My GOP local is a clique tighter than any HS girls group I have ever seen.

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RU's avatar

The issue seems to be that the GOP is a private corporation, owned by people who have the same interests/alignments as the people who own the DNC. They will never act in the best interests of actual conservatives or everyday Americans b/c the people who own the GOP depend upon big government, big business, and globalization. Those dependencies also mean they are aligned with liberal cultural values. They're never going to go against the things that make them wealthy. Their unstated by consistent support of liberal ideas like big government and libertine lifestyle choices is not a bug; it's a feature.

We keep expecting the GOP to be something other than it is, but it never will be unless we stage a coup and take it back. That is basically what the Tea Party, and then Trump/MAGA has been all about: taking over the GOP b/c it fails to represent any sort of actual conservatism. It's not lost on me that there are a bunch of losers on the GOP debate stage and the guy leading them all by 40 pts isn't even there. That in itself is exposing the corruption and falsehood of our "2 party" system to anyone watching.

Good for Vivek for calling out one particularly ridiculous element of this scam we call the GOP.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I agree with you, and either there will be one of those rare times in American history when major political parties rise and fall, ending up with something different than just R and D, or we will succeed in the insurgent takeover of the Republican Party (as the communists are working to do in the D Party), or else, I guess.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

Whenever GOP calls me for donation I say, "remove my name from your list. RNC/GOP is dead to me".

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Jay Horton's avatar

Very well said.

Later Jay

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Susan Catherine's avatar

He was pure gold. This morning you can see the news trying to portray him as unhinged. I'm sure several people will believe that. I thought he was heroic for the things he said.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Vivek can say things Iike that because he's suspect and unelectable. But it's still wonderful he said that!

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Jay Horton's avatar

Plus he has "Fuck You"-money and that goes a long way, just saying.

Later Jay

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Christy's avatar

Haven’t seen anything as great as last night since trump told Hillary he would put her in jail!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow that was an awesome comment by Vivek!

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Kim D's avatar

Kathy, have you seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O91OrUuuYs

It is a comparison of Vivek with Obama.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I don't care what you've got there cause I'm not suggesting you vote for Vivek. I'm saying PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT HE SAID. And give him credit for calling out the corrupt media! Maybe he'll cause the others to get more brave and say it like it is.

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Truthseeker's avatar

He is an excellent speaker/debater. No doubt about that. He can run circles around all of them…

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

But more then that, he's not afraid to spell it out. Talk of bold corrections to the system. Call out the evil. Even if he's not our guy, It makes the other candidates bolder.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Exactly!

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Kim D's avatar

Pay attention to those that are charismatic. well spoken and say all the right things. He has plagiarized Obama's speech word for word in this video. Seeing that, how can he be defended. Something is rotten here..............

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Wow. I didn’t even know there was going to be a debate, but that was a magnificent hit.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Dangerous move calling out the Kil-Squad like that. Nice knowing you Ram.....

Later Jay

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Sharon Wood's avatar

I have read Vivak is not who he appears. I think it from Karen Brackens website.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Follow Jeff's advice and look for evidence, not gossip and rumor - e.g., Paul, not George, Soros gives out the scholarships (Paul & Daisy Soros Foundation, that is, and Paul is long dead), and Vivek sued the WEF because he said he never was in their leadership program. Some people will reject those points as valid, but at least be familiar with them.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Lit 'em up, didn't he? I don’t care to see him or RFK Jr in the White House, but I love hearing them both make TPTB squirm.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The important thing about Vivek is what he FAILS to say.

Vivek has not said a damn word about millions of obvious toxxine injuries and deaths. Why? Might have something to do with his making his fortune in pharma...

Vivek must be considered a sleeper agent of Pfizer until he speaks up about those deaths.

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Dick's avatar

Great point! Much overlooked. Perhaps a point blank question posed to Vivek is in order…

🙏🏽🕊

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Absolutely!

Why does no one ever ask him?

His silence and their silence speaks volumes. But someone has to point it out for others to notice that silence. So we should all be pointing it out, all the time.

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Dick's avatar

🤔🤔🤔yep

It should be on everybody’s lips.

Thanks for bringing that up!

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Jaci's avatar

Truth...👏👏👏👏👏

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Thank you for sharing that Oregon Kathy! I’ve chosen not to subject myself to these sham “debates” but that clip was pure gold and I will share it with others! Thank you!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Has he changed his stripes and evolved? I mean, I was a lefty commie in my youth. Now I've grown up.

But.. it's good to be suspicious of these 'out of the blue' politicians.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I agree. I was also a strong lefty tho not commie in my college years. Amd as an adult now very hard core Red.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Never Lib or lefty; baby boomer who is still conservative as they get. But wiser now... the institutions I trusted (& some people) ..... no longer. I’ll forever question everything.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same except for the Baby Boomer part (I’m in the next generation after).

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Christy's avatar

Not a fan of any politician, but he had talked about his ties to Soros.

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Fla Mom's avatar

He sued them to take his name off, saying he really wasn't, but that they just put people's names and photos out there. Those who want to believe that's also part of the conspiracy will do so.

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Christy's avatar

Are u talking about Vivek being tied to Soros?

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Fla Mom's avatar

To the WEF, actually, but I link them in my mind. His scholarship was from the *Paul* and Daisy Soros Foundation, much older brother to the evil one, who went to a different country when they fled Hungary, who spent his entire career in shipping and who published articles on better logistics/shipping systems. their scholarships were/are for immigrants, since they were immigrants (or at least Paul was). It's not fair, imho, to conflate the brothers and convict anyone who had anything to do with Paul of being guilty of being controlled by George.

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Christy's avatar

I wasn’t convicting anyone. I was saying that Vivek has explained his scholarship. Not to mention I would imagine he saw it for what it was and has been red pilled.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Bragged about his Soros ties -- until he saw it as a DIS-advantage.

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Fla Mom's avatar

He sued them to take his name off, saying he really wasn't, but that they just put people's names and photos out there. Those who want to believe that's also part of the conspiracy will do so.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I mean, that would in a way actually be a good tactic for them to help keep people on our side who are suspicious of the WEF from voting for someone who might actually be a decent leader. Pretend he’s on their side.

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Dena's avatar

Don’t believe it’s true that Vivek is WEF. That was put out there by his enemies - I believe he threatened a suit & WEF actually published ( buried on back pages) that he was “invited “ to be a member but he declined.

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Susan Seas's avatar

As soon as that information was being passed around it was immediately removed from his Wikipedia page. Too coincidental to be a coincidence. He doesn’t want that info out there. IMO but these days, who knows.

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FreeBird07's avatar

He always sounds scripted to me.

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NAB's avatar

Regarding your rant on a political "Superman" all I can say is AMEN. I think you were in our kitchen last night when my husband and I were saying pretty much the same thing. Local, local, local. And as for abortion - living in NY abortion is never going away so we will focus on those ministries that offer women a chance to choose life over death and support both mom and baby during pregnancy and after.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I never realized there were so many baby killers in the US.

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NAB's avatar

I think that's why the election results hit me so hard on Wednesday morning, Kathleen. I just didn't know that so many were consumed with such bloodlust for innocent babies.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The University of Pittsburgh sewed dead/alive baby scalps onto the backs of mice.

Right in my city these Dr. Mengele Auschwitz "research" experiments are being done.

None of the local stations reported it when the horror was uncovered. It was Judicial Watch and The Gateway Pundit that reported the story.

https://studentsforlife.org/2022/05/18/upitt-grafts-baby-scalps-onto-mice-kills-live-infants-cuts-out-their-livers-we-say-no-more/

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Copernicus's avatar

I think that most people are able to turn a blind eye because they assume the babies are dead when the scalp is cut off. Once they understand that these babies are STILL ALIVE when their organs are cut out, it is a whole other ballgame.

It’s not merely that the babies are unwanted and therefore aborted. It is that they are delivered alive and their organs removed WHILE STILL ALIVE. And, if I understand correctly, often with little to no anesthesia, as that affects viability and quality of the organs.

God, have mercy on those of us who speak against tbis horror. We do not consent. We do not comply.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Nazi Germany is US

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WP William's avatar

Utilitarianism, human resources, a form of 'godliness' (they were dead anyway so why not use their demise for the greater good and benefit for many?) this is the dark door of Mankind being the determiner of good and evil and pridefully casting aside higher authority and restraint.

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Dick's avatar

Sadly, you may be right about people turning a blind eye.

However, I doubt most people even know it’s happening. The experiment itself, regardless, is grotesque and hideously evil. Anyone who can rationalize it is as pathological as the psychopaths who conduct these Mengelian horrors.

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Kim D's avatar

I beleive those still on the Pro-Choice bandwagon refuse to see this aspect (as well as other very insidious actions) as true. They have yet to put on the sunglasses and see the truth.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m sure they dismiss it as misinformation or conspiracy.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Those baby scalps (and other parts) likely came from Planned Parenthood. They have order forms and provide labs with whatever baby parts they want, even guaranteeing it was taken from an aborted baby BEFORE they cold-bloodedly murdered it. It's criminal and beyond comprehension.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and all funded by the murdering blood thirsty NIH.

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Dick's avatar

UP & PP are BFFs.

Next door neighbors too. Cozy.

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Funded by Dr. Fauci’s office, of course.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, funded by Fauci.

Guess he got bored with torturing beagle puppies.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

And children in the foster care system in NY...

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Thanks for the article link. This is worse than Germany in the 40’s.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No local news stations reported that story when it was first exposed.

Thank Judicial Watch and The Gateway Pundit for exposing the horror.

I bet the "research" is still going on.

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Dick's avatar

…UP is directly connected to Planned Parenthood &, I believe, Fauci’s funding apparatus.

Thank you for posting this.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

It was a stunning wake up call to me.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

It seems like the last four years have been one wake up call after another. It's too devastating for some people, so they continue to live in their Pollyanna world, like the woman who told me, "I've had all my shots and I'm fine!" and the other woman who basically said the vaccine injured are collateral damage so the rest of us could be protected. I did read that the Ohio referendum was written in such a way that it could have been confusing as to whether a person should vote yes or no. We've had similarly written things here in NC (though not about abortion).

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Wow. "Collateral damage."

That is a warfare term.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s horribly callous 😕 The rest of us are okay, so it’s worth it if YOU are disabled now 😡 Just wow.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Yes, many initiatives, amendments & the like are purposely written to confuse average voters. My advice: find a think tank or individual you trust & ask them to decipher the true meaning in the word salad.

NO can be a YES or visa versa.

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Janet's avatar

Horrible. These are the people who would push their kids out the front door to the nazis while they r@n out the back door.

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WP William's avatar

It is our societal leadership cultivating irreligious, faithless, self-determination, selfishness, convenience, indifference and disposability more than callousness and bloodlust although the former attributes open the door widely to the latter. Mass shootings, suicide and addiction epidemics, vile entertainment, debasement of all tradition and institution and decorum, promoters of: Me, Myself and I, while also demanding global (climate) action via oppression and a portrayed benign tyranny of radical revolution. Profits and Power explode with the deterioration, who can cash in on the collapse and shifting capital and devaluation of decency and humanity--they are the opportunistic amoral soulless and counterfeiters of humanity. As for me and my house we will NOT devalue naturally created, truly and fully human embryos as being less than defenseless innocent persons. How can a selfish hateful person compensate for their defects...? Demand ever more, reframe morality to reflect your opinions that are bestowed and reinforced upon you perpetually by a Media-Gvt-Corporate-Hollywood-Climate Cult Complex. Framing LEGAL, Tax-funded, Medical Aborting of Americans as a moral decision superior to severely regulating, restricting or abolition of THE SIGNAL most Glaringly OBVIOUS and Maniacal form of child abuse devised and perpetrated en masse because we've grown used to it and it serves a great political and $$$ purpose and gives power to selfish and/or fearful or trafficked/abused women and their abusers to discard consequences that God and Nature designed to result from an intimate, respectful, passionate exchange between male and female that has been debased and lowered to the level of pissing in public or getting a cheap tattoo on an impulse or dare.

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Truthseeker's avatar

People are lost.

People are sinful.

And we really all need to be called back to God. That’s the way I see all these issues now…. When I hear anyone saying ‘wipe those people off the face of the Earth’.

Do they hear themselves??

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Janet's avatar

They are numb and callous to the plight of others.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Indeed.

All narcissists are… numb and callous to the plight of others.

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BBS's avatar

Out of the nearly million abortions performed in this country every year, 10,000 of them are late term. There are only 7 countries out of the developed 198 countries in the world who allow late term abortion: North Korea, Canada, China, Vietnam, Netherlands, Singapore and us. If that doesn't say it all.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Sadly I take some respite in knowing that those babies are where we all want to be and they will never vote for the Dems or the devil. China has killed itself off. Dems can't reproduce and they foster hate. Eventually....🔥

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Dick's avatar

A comfort, yes, but never will it assuage our collective guilt before the Holy God.

That comfort must never let us forget the murders of innocents happening every minute in our home.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Absolutely!!!!!

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Dena's avatar

Take a look at Pre-born. This non profit offers an ultrasound to pregnant women. It’s amazing the large % who then keep their pregnancies. They see they’re carrying a baby & not just a clump of cells as they’ve been told by the enemy. A picture is worth a thousand words.

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NAB's avatar

Yes, a mother seeing her baby via US significantly reduces abortions rates that's why so many pro-abortion advocates campaign against the use of the technology.

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Antonia Shusta's avatar

Where did you find the statistics about number of abortions and how many were late term? I keep hearing from boomer women that’s “not true “ so would like to be able to refer them to a source.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Good point. While I tend to believe this, using data is crucial to many we are trying to reach.

Killing the least of these made in the very image of God is the lowest place a society can go. Imho.

Also pitting a woman against her baby developing miraculously inside her is a travesty also. In the name of self-named “reproductive rights” when “abortion rights” was too accurate.

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Antonia Shusta's avatar

I have a die-hard Democrat friend who when I talked to her about the party’s stand of abortion until birth simply said “no one thinks that.”

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RunningLogic's avatar

They literally have publicly celebrated late term abortion on many occasions so it’s crazy to me that people can have their heads in the sand like that 😕

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Hardened heart

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Dick's avatar

Very well said 👏🏻!

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WP William's avatar

AND our global elitist types want it to be a global harvest of profitable resource and tithe to a theophobic Occult while portraying it as morally good, a human right, or at LEAST a lesser of 2 evils; they will not rest until all nations and peoples are compliantly acceding to the legal profitable in-humane process. Should the LEFTISTs in OH now adopt an even more liberal deregulated baby-butchering position like all the other Anti-Roe Reversal States (MD,CA,CO, we know the list)? Abortion at your door services like food delivery, legalize baby organ and remains for use in commerce and satanic rites, embryonic smoothies? The Exploitation-Depopulation Lobby is doing a great job for women's health care and it's self-funding. I hope that anyone who openly admits to voting yes in OH gets a good dose of tarring and feathering (figuratively), they should be banned from working with children and put on a list of child abusers.

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Dick's avatar

Thank you for posting this. Dear Lord! Forgive us and stop this continuing carnage! Use us! Use me! We are much diminished by the ease we allow our consciences when we forget.

We continue the uphill battle here in Oregon, with His help and in Him.

God Bless and Keep us all.

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Leo's avatar

BBS - As Jeff recommended: please state the source of your information re: late term abortions.

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NAB's avatar

I think you can go to the Guttmacher Institute which is the research arm of Planned Parenthood.

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Carolanne's avatar

Yes hard to believe and these folks were not aborted!

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Dick's avatar

Here in Oregon, PP has owned the state. Never had any restrictive laws here, ever. OHSU (Oregon’s Med Hosp. complex, teaching & research) has sold aborted baby parts, abs are taxpayer funded, our hospitals & HMOs are mandated to perform abs…. PP & dem party have stopped any efforts to legislate any restrictions (using underhanded means) and defeated all but a few pro-life candidates.

Abortion is permitted at any time in gestation, for any reason, at any age of the mother, minors are enabled by schools & state, no parental notification, tax money pays transportation for abortions from other states (since Roe overturned)… NO RESTRICTIONS.

The same kind of anti life enabling has extended to physician assisted suicide — we were the vanguard state — and we enable the shift by PP to “gender affirmation”, also enabling & paying for trans youths’ transportation from out of state for “treatment”.

And very few Oregonians know any of this!! We are a people, here in Oregon, captured by a bloody-handed, corrupt mob. But many still fight and pray for Life. Some wins, too. We live pleasant lives at the Gates of Hell and few know or see it. Pray for Oregon.

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NAB's avatar

LORD have mercy!

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Patrice's avatar

When my husband ran for local office years ago, I was amazed at how much money was involved in the campaign. It was excessive. It was also known that without police or fire backing you couldn't win, and you had to be a Democrat. No Republicans ever received support from the Police or the Fire Unions. And it is true that it all trickles up. The pro-life mayor ended up being the pro-abortion Representative...

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The Tea Party movement got ‘good’ local candidates elected. Something happened when they went national. I remember wondering if it was something in the water in D.C. Or they went to parties, got drugged and were photographed in blackmail useful positions.

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Jaci's avatar

Teacher Unions only give to Dems too!

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Patrice's avatar

Absolutely!

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Susan Stephens's avatar

We have locally flipped from all D to all R.

Run as conservative R, but get to the state capitol & all bets off. For a number of years we’ve had a super majority GOP legislature & R governor. From gambling to marijuana to little interest in ballot/election security you’d never know. We did get a bill passed & signed into law protecting minors from genital mutilation surgeries. Tied up in court of course thanks to DOJ joining. DOJ came after a conservative volunteer organization who worked diligently for 3 yrs to get such passed.

Demanded ALL communications, etc. Intimidation on steroids to shut up anyone who dares to “offend” the government position.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

That is wierd. Even in CA I know candidates who are Red that were backed by police or fire.

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Patrice's avatar

It was the particular town in California. The city council was actually supposed to be non-partisan position but the everyone was a democrat. (So my husband became a democrat with republican sensibilities for a few years.)

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Sharon's avatar

In my area of CA as well

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Healingroze Earthwise's avatar

Abortion has been and always will be population control, targeted at the poorest parts of our people. Eugenics greatest achievement in making it “legal”. 💔

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

It's just that the man-hating and baby-hating college girls and "young professional women" don't advertise their abortions.

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NAB's avatar

I saw some exit polling for the Ohio amendment and the degree to which black men and women supported it was just stunning - over 80% (the group that least supported the amendment was white men at 50/50 split)!

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Blacks babies are aborted in higher percentages than white ones. But blacks as group still support abortion.

We tried to reach our black congresswoman to at least inform her about the devastating statistics.... closest we got was a quick drop by at her office.

In response to sending materials got a basically word salad response.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think you probably have to reach people at a more individual level on this subject in order to inform them and help change their perspectives.

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chuck kutchera's avatar

Abortion is the ultimate act of white supremacy.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Nonsense.

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Dick's avatar

Research!

Read Margaret Sanger’s own words. Our eugenics movement (very successful in the 1920s, by the way) targeted blacks and the “feeble minded”…

Hitler was inspired by Sanger & others who took up this banner to engineer a genetically perfected society by the culling out, via sneaky or coerced sterilization, inferior and undesirable human stock.

Can you see how the mindset of social engineering & devaluing people to the level of cattle, viewed only by their utilitarian value to a utopian society, has evolved to what we’re seeing all around us?

Re abortion, please look up the vastly disproportionate stats on black vs white abortions AND note the locations (indicating targeted populations) of abortion promoting clinics (including in schools) — this clearly indicates a continuation of the fundamental ethos of the founder of Planned Parenthood (& please note what Its name was BEFORE it was sanitized to Planned Parenthood). Every one of its higher-ups since has demonstrated this — and worse — despite their pretty PR words. It was — and is — a thoroughly corrupt and sleazy, racist, enterprise.

The writer to which you responded, “nonsense” was stating a fact, not a bias. A modicum of honest research will open your eyes.

Godspeed, Kathleen.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Thanks for your friendly comment, Dick. You are correct about the history.

I wonder how the current statistics about abortion in black women explains their large numbers of children (with numerous "fathers") on welfare?

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

Nailed it.

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LMWC's avatar

The abortion issue was used this election cycle just as it in last year’s cycle. Democrats used “women’s choice” as a rallying cry for abortion. It gets a lot of the 20 to 50 group stirred up. The media never mentions that so many of the abortion laws going through are abortion on demand to full term. I would bet money that most of these young women would never vote for this. It would still be a bridge too far. However, media never mentions the extremes of this or that these Dem candidates receive millions from Planned Parenthood to further their campaigns. I believe we have not turned that far, but I do think it is a good subterfuge for corruption in the election, saying abortion is the issue and the GOP won’t address it. I do not believe we are a pro-abortion Nation suddenly.

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NAB's avatar

I don't know, LMWC. I have depressing interactions with young women which argues against your belief. It's really sad but these girls have been told from a very young age that they have the RIGHT to choose and RIGHT to determine what to do with their body and NO ONE can take way that RIGHT. You should hear some of the comments from my son's friends. He once mentioned in his group that he was "pro-life" and he said the backlash was immediate and fierce. How DARE he say such a thing! He has no RIGHT because he isn't a woman and pregnancy doesn't affect HIM! He's only 16.

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Dick's avatar

Moving away from whether a male has a right to speak to this…

Do make sure he’s armed with the albeit gruesome facts of what abortion actually is — what the barbaric atrocities committed against one’s child are. The various early abortions are violent and grizzly, but the late term abortions are the most dramatically perverse and demented. People simply do not know what happens in abortion. It’s not just snuffing out a beautiful, miraculous living human being; it is torture, chemical burning, tearing, vacuuming in pieces, dismembering — or placing a still living, viable baby (who somehow managed to survive the effort to kill) in a cold hospital closet & left there to die.

The late-term, partial-birth abortions require a closer glimpse than I can provide here. Cold, hard pictures of instructions for the “procedure” tell it all.

This is us. People must be told. They need to know. Give your son answers for the ignorant and brainwashed.

God Bless & Speed you, your son and your family.

🙏🏽👆🏼✝️🕊💌

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MayBella82's avatar

Young men should know what the women they are sex with thinks about abortion. If the woman gets pregnant, the baby is also his baby. Does he really want his child to be murdered?

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Dick's avatar

Absolutely! Was not dismissing that at all. I just wanted to stress that very few people know what abortion really is. Many fathers’ traumas are unacknowledged by society long after their gfs or wive’s abort.

— Blessings & Thanks for your post!

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NAB's avatar

Totally agree, Dick. My son is exceptionally well-formed in our Catholic faith and even more informed about the atrocity of abortion. He gets it. Plus, he is not intimidated at all.

Sadly, too many of his peers have absolutely no clue as evidenced in their sputtering frustration when he cites cold, hard facts to them.

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Dick's avatar

Great Job, Mom & Dad! I’m not Catholic, but I find my Catholic brothers and sisters to be the most stalwart, serious and consistent of anyone In this battle. God Bless your family!!

💌🙏🏽👆🏼✝️🕊

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Amen. You have reminded me I have thought much about serving our crisis pregnancy center.

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NAB's avatar

I have found two different local, boots on the ground, so to speak entities that do such good work in my area. One is a front-line center (FOCUS Pregnancy Center) that pulls women out of the abortion line at the Planned Parenthood and begs the women to give life a chance. They support them with material, spiritual and emotional resources. The other one is a residential home called The Margaret Home which offers not only housing for women with no where else to go, but also educational and occupational opportunities so the women can become self-supporting of themselves and their children. The group is launching a phase 2 of their mission in securing transitional housing so as to support women for a longer period of time following the birth of their babies.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

This is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing.

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Dick's avatar

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Christy's avatar

Bless you NAB!! I pray for you success🙏

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Susan Banks's avatar

I say that Abortion will be illegal in all States very soon. Have you ever researched Nesara?

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Roger Beal's avatar

Y'all note that thanks to Tuesday's elections, Long Island's two counties are controlled by Republicans. Next stop on the Vote Red Line: New York City.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

No sleep till Brooklyn!

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Roger Beal's avatar

BOOM!

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NAB's avatar

This is SUCH good news.

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WP William's avatar

did the internet connection at the poling location get disrupted?

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Roger Beal's avatar

No, but the rented unmarked van delivering "extra" ballots had a flat and arrived at the polling center too late.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Wow! That is amazing. Hopefully they are true and not RINOS

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Lisa Ca's avatar

And in CA

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Julianne Benson's avatar

Jeff ~ you are doing a great job and I for one very much respect that you don't go out on a limb without knowing the truth and having evidence. You are a very reliable source of information and I am grateful for you and your C & C! Please continue to speak truth and offer your opinions as I value them. May God Bless you Jeff and your family.

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Jacquie's avatar

He’s the best, isn’t he?! Best news source out there! 💪

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

One thing I have asked from Yahweh, that I shall seek:

That I may dwell in the house of Yahweh all the days of my life,

To behold the beauty of Yahweh

And to inquire in His temple.

For in the day of calamity He will conceal me in His shelter;

In the secret place of His tent He will hide me;

He will lift me up on a rock.

And now my head will be lifted up above my enemies around me,

And I will offer in His tent sacrifices with loud shouts of joy;

I will sing, and I will sing praises to Yahweh.

— Psalm 27:4-6 LSB

✝️✝️✝️

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ChrisB's avatar

Yes, I will sing His praises!

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CStone's avatar

One of my all-time favorites!!!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

My daddy, who was a deacon in our little rural Assembly of God church, read some portion of the Bible daily. Unlike me, he did not mark in it. But after he passed (in 1982), I discovered that Psalms 27:4 was underlined in an otherwise unmarked Bible. That is precious to me, when I think of where he is today.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Thanks for sharing. That is amazing.

I started reading the Bible as a teenager. Looking at the book, I see that my mom was reading it, too. She commented on the beginning of Romans 12. It is really special to see that.

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Lon Guyland's avatar

“If you want to know what is really in Republicans’ way it is ‘superman’ worship. I’m begging folks. I don’t know how better I can explain it. Trump, DeSantis, RFK, I don’t care. The over-focus on presidential politics is distracting people from actually fixing the nation’s problems.”

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And yet, Donald John Trump is a giant of a man around whom a movement and an excitement has been created that is influencing the atmosphere in which local people want to involve themselves in politics rather than give up and drop out.

We all know who is targeted here, even if other little names are used to distract.

Call it ‘Superman Worship’ if you want. I call it recognizing greatness in an era of very small men.

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Lon Guyland's avatar

No question, Trump was the best in a very long time, and accomplished some great things. Still, he’s only human, and didn’t deliver (border wall, lock her up), and made some huge blunders (“COVID”). That’s not to detract from Trump -- Permanent Washington and their funders and puppet masters were all arrayed against him, Congress was not helpful (at best) and virtually nobody was trustworthy. His greatness is demonstrated by how he faced those bleak odds and still accomplished what he did.

But that sort of illustrates the point: even a bulldozer like Trump faced headwinds that he might not have, had he had bottom-up support from mayors, DAs, state legislatures, governors, members of Congress, senators and worthy leaders willing to take cabinet posts.

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Absolutely, we need those with us locally. I am all for involvement in local politics. I am part of a group that brings in speakers to keep up with what’s happening in our city. I have a circle of friends, who will contact me at election time for recommendations.

And I know how we are invigorated by the example President Trump sets.

I didn’t like Donald Trump; the celebrity New Yorker or the actor. It wasn’t an active dislike, I just didn’t care. And when he announced he was running in June 2015, I thought, ‘Good grief.’ Mind you, I had started back in 2014, thinking who could possibly have come out of the Obama years with integrity to run. This, after watching them all bend over and take it every time the ‘enlightened’ one signaled.

So starting January of 2015, I committed to fervent prayer on my 25 minute drive to work. I remember saying, “Lord, the evil is now so deeply entrenched, who is out there who can survive the media attacks without adopting the world’s program? Any Republican who makes it through the primary will have to be Democrat-lite. Nothing is impossible for you, but is there any such person still standing? Have you decided this is the end for us?’

I paid no attention to Donald Trump, thought it was a stunt, until the news on the radio one afternoon soon after indicated the media’s hair was on fire in regards to comments Trump made about John McCain. I had despised John McCain since 2004, when the veil slipped for the final time for me. McCain, of course was the Godfather of the Republican Establishment and considered untouchable. My antenna went up, but I thought maybe Trump was naive and now he was about to be eaten alive by the rabid, slobbering pack of enraged liberals on both sides of the aisle.

But too my utter delight, the following afternoon, I heard Trump had doubled down and I developed a monstrous crush that just grew and grew until he kicked Hillary’s azz in 2016; at which point I acquired a lifetime love. And here I am. I admit it, the man can do no wrong.

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FH's avatar

Great story!!!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Well, thank you!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

At which point the love fire overwhelmed me, and I am forever his. In my eyes, he can do no wrong. It’s not debatable.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Border wall did go up; wasn’t finished. But what was there stemmed the flow & the word got out.

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Christy's avatar

A few of us have been saying this for months. So incredibly happy Jeff ranted about it!!!!

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Julie Booras's avatar

Republican Rep Peter Durant Won a Senate Seat in the Special Election in MASSACHUSETTS!!!!! It has been a blue seat for something like 5 decades. He is a health freedom candidate too. Peter has twice filed a bill that would PROHIBIT the Covid19 "vaccine" as a Condition of Entry - to the state, school and business or a condition of employment.

Peter has spoken fearlessly about his support for vaccine choice and has sponsored all the Health Rights MA (HealthrightsMA.org) events at the state house over the past 3 years including the Faces of Vaccine Injury Massachusetts Event at the state house where those who were injured or lost their jobs came and shared their stories. https://healthrightsma.org/faces-of-vaccine-injury-individual-videos/

It's a win that doesn't get much notice but it is huge for us stranded here in Marxachusetts!

https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/11/07/gop-rep-peter-durant-declares-victory-in-senate-special-election-for-central-mass-seat/

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AnnR's avatar

It was VERY good win for us! Fingers crossed we get more candidates like him, who are willing to walk the walk, and do the hard work work of knocking on voters' doors to get out the vote.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Like Kevin Kiley here in CA. He is the one who brought and won several lawsuits against Newsom to open CA

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AnnR's avatar

The major problem, as I see it (and live it, being involved in local and state level politics here in MA), is voter turnout. The Dems ALWAYS get their voters to vote, especially by mail in ballot now. WE need to do a much better job at that. It's so easy to vote now - in MA a voter can go ONLINE and request a mail in ballot from their Town Clerk. It comes in, stamped return envelope and everything. The voter doesn't even have to leave his/her house. We NEED to get that information to the majority of Americans who definitely think our way.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well when our side gives up before even going to the polls, because people claim their vote doesn’t count or the elections are rigged, it definitely doesn’t help matters 😕

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Michael Framson's avatar

Same in Oregon. The dems have a core value that motivates their efforts to get out the vote (GOTV). I have never witnessed a republican equivalent.

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CaplT's avatar

Differences between Dem leftist movement/voters and GOP conservative movement/voter motivation.

I subscribed to Move On .org for a while to see what was going on over there, until they dropped me for lack of responsiveness.

Lefties whip the people into a voting frenzy. It’s not just the media.

1. They sent 3-5 emails every day with sky-is-falling rhetoric on different leftist topics. They even footnoted their emergency missives for supposed credibility - which were 95% quoting themselves railing in another article.

2. They ask for signatures on various ballot issues. (Adds to their “grass roots” database for sale to other leftist organizations. )

3. They asked for $2 or $5. every. time. People do this for a hobby, for the Dem cause, although the company founders get big bucks.

4. They list rallies and places to show up to for protests.

They have a sign up chimp app to sign up for volunteer work - One of the ways is to sign up to scour social media for people who are not Dem lefties and report them to a database. 2 hour shifts. Others go after the offenders.

Total emotionalism. It must work tho.

I also get conservative emails and sometimes texts.

Theirs are more direct asks for money.

They are by candidates, not about an issue. Many times by an unknown candidate outside our area.

No where to go, no way to help, just give money.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Wow that is excellent research! Thanks for sharing this! It’s good to know and understand their tactics!

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LMWC's avatar

And in Michigan, a seemingly small victory, but one that looms huge here. The entire supervising board of Green Twp was recalled this week. Green Township is adjacent to Big Rapids, home of Ferris State University. A publicly acknowledged CCP owned corporation got permission from the Green Township board to build a huge lithium based battery plant in a rural area, 20 miles from Ferris State University which is a major technology site. They were going to receive huge tax breaks from our governor, and in violation of hundreds of state EPA laws on the books. The rural people of the area raised the alarm. The Twp board meetings were flooded with people. Attorney’s volunteered to help fight it and a statewide group was formed to get the word out about Gotion. A court stay was put on the construction and now with the recall of the entire board, they move on to make sure the zoning laws are upheld and make it totally unattractive to the communists to build an environmentally unsound plant here. It’s the start of the war, but it is a battle win.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh that’s amazing! I know several commenters here have posted about that plant so it’s awesome to see positive developments!!

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FreeBird07's avatar

Great news!

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NAB's avatar

That is incredible news and I can see why the MSM doesn't share it widely. Thank you!

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Maybe health freedom IS resonating amongst voters after all

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Super encouraging. Gives me chills!

Do tell - what were the strategies if you were involved. ?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Whaaaaaaat??!! I rep in blue MA??? No way. Is he for real??

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RunningLogic's avatar

This is amazing news!! An excellent win!! These are what we should be focusing on, NOT what the media is telling us to focus on (Ohio, Kentucky, Virginia)!! Thank you so much for sharing!

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There's no free lunch's avatar

Jeff, your let's reverse Soros statement is perhaps one of your most important communications!

Fellow C&C'rs keep fighting the good fight, do good and God Bless you and yours!

We have much to be optimistic for, even with the daunting challenges that we face, and with faith, persitence, and discipline we will be victorious.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

In our local races, the better candidates for school board were the conservatives (former city council members, etc.). But they got absolutely trounced. It's an ominous sign for Fort Collins.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Vivek went nuts in the 'debate' last night.

https://twitter.com/Emilio2763/status/1722424623856320926

Went hard after the GOP establishment.

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Raptor's avatar

My husband was watching the debate with headphones on. Every time he chortled and snorted over something and I gave him a "What?" look he said "Vivek. Shredding." I finally had to go watch the highlights. Holy smackers. Delightful.

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Christy's avatar

He meets with anyone and everyone who will have him. His chat with Alex jones was interesting.

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Raptor's avatar

I'll go have a look. Thanks for the heads up.

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Aloha50's avatar

It was great; He's a good talker for sure. Yet, I wonder why he didn't call out Trump for effectively giving us Ronna McDaniel for a fourth term as GOP grand poobah? That would have been lit....maybe next debate.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I wonder if he's playing to be VP.

I'm quite nervous of who Trump will pick. His other picks (30 Pence, etc) were horrible.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Hopefully he won’t be caught in trap of relying on the GOP “advice & consent” of such as Reince Priebus. I believe he directed many if not most appointments. Probably even VP.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I agree. I think he is very much playing to be VP and is exposing the corruption.

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree!

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Fla Mom's avatar

He's being the Trump mini-me. Points out that he doesn't criticize Trump. Those who did, at the recent Florida Freedom Summit, were roundly booed.

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Aloha50's avatar

I saw Trump got heckled at the Freedom Summit when he didn't give credit to Florida regarding Covid performance.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Yes, he did, for not crediting DeSantis. It's one of his less endearing characteristics, what I think some people might call 'Trumpiness,' when they wish he had a bit less of it.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Vivek's comment about "anti-Semitic sprinkles on top" (of Ben & Jerry's ice cream) did it for me. Done, done, and 𝒅𝒐𝒏𝒆.

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Robin Landry's avatar

👏🏻👏🏻 more spine from the Republicans and less whine.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

🤣🥱 been saying this for forever.

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Christy's avatar

It was like when trump told hillary he would put her in jail. Of course he didn’t but it was entertaining!

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Don’t know how that could’ve been accomplished; rhetoric maybe, but what most of us wanted & still do. Any R doing what she has would be in court or jail by now

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree!

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Fla Mom's avatar

More fool he.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

In all respect, who says he’s getting away with anything. We haven’t seen him elected. And even at that, Trump was elected. Vivek is also a business man like Trump.

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WP William's avatar

WE NEED to hold them to ACCOUNT to what they proclaim and promise and grandstand on to get our approval; and pester and badger them when they falter and advocate unrelentingly for our common cause of correcting the mess that we've allowed them ALL to make of it

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"Subpoenas were issued to: James Biden’s wife, Sarah Biden; Hunter Biden’s wife, Melissa Cohen; Hallie Biden, Beau Biden’s widow; and her sister Elizabeth Secundy."

Excellent use of punctuation, Jeff!

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ChrisB's avatar

😂 Oh, hello fellow grammar nerd!

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Oh Susanna's avatar

At first when I scanned that sentence I thought it was going to be incomprehensible. On a slower read, it was perfectly comprehensible (though I might have used the person's name in place of "her" in the last phrase).

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Laura's avatar

Lawyers are all about punctuation!

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KBB's avatar

Wish that were true, but I've seen plenty of examples otherwise in documents drafted by lawyers. Jeff's sentence, however, was indeed masterful. Love that there are fellow punctuation police in the C&C Army! Let's eat Grandma, am I right?

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ChicNotGeek's avatar

The term “high end brothel” always makes me giggle. What about any of that scenario is “high end”?? It’s cheap sexual gratification bc marriage is *a lot* more expensive and “high end” than that scenario. 😂😂

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

"High End" usually just means expensive.

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ChicNotGeek's avatar

And marriage is truly more “high end” than that. 😂😂

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

..no comment... :)

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Anthony's avatar

I think the part that is missing in marriage for "high end brothel" is the sex, not the money. :D

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ChicNotGeek's avatar

Speak for yourself 😂😂

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CaplT's avatar

High-end girl, boy and adult trafficking. Some like them very young.

Unfettered abortions including “children’s rights” to abortion facilitates the reuse of sex slaves for the rest of their short lives.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

So very, very sad. There are probably a lot more kids trapped in that in the US now that the border is wide open, and the official policy is for "families" to be let through on a priority basis without being DNA tested.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s all at once heartbreaking and disgusting.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I'm thinking a lot of the "working" girls and boys there really ARE girls and boys, as in underage.

All the better for blackmail. Of course they probably don't tell that to a lot of the clients. I imagine a lot of clients saw some 16 and 17 year olds that looked like adults.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or maybe the clients actually ask for that 😕

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I imagine a few might be actively looking for kids. They would certainly have to be pretty dumb, after all the publicity about Jeffrey Epstein. Of course, Epstein's clients were dumb themselves, especially considering they probably had pretty good IQ scores .

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RunningLogic's avatar

Dumb, or maybe just arrogant and greedy. Or all of the above.

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WP William's avatar

i thought it was referencing some Kama Sutra positioning

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MaryAnn's avatar

😂

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TB's avatar

Maybe the clients were also getting high, as well as the primary service? (/s)

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JLo2112's avatar

"Kentucky Election" I wouldn't rule cheating out of the election; however, the election was lost by Daniel Cameron and the national Republican party for lack of strategy to overcome any said cheating.

I was a volunteer canvasser in Northern KY for Daniel Cameron. I knocked on many Republican doors (~1000) to first raise awareness that there was an upcoming election, second ask them if they planned on voting, and third, if they were going to support Daniel Cameron, the African American Republican candidate. Someone answered the door approximately 10% of the time and actually answered my questions. Of that 10%, 20 to 25% stated out rightly that that they were going to support Brasher, the current tyrant and no amount of talking would convince them otherwise.

Why were these registered republicans supporting Brasher you might ask? Because Brasheer launched an early barrage of commercials that painted Daniel Cameron as a far right abortion absolutists and anti-teacher candidate and Cameron did almost nothing to defend himself. He let Brasheer define who he was two months before the election with no commercials address the framing. The Brasheer commercials were hard to watch, the worst one showing a 10yr old while a narrating a rape story and forced pregnancy - did really happen?? I think the stories are all fabrications of an extreme circumstance that almost never happens, but they sure are effective at inflaming the people. Brasheer also painted Daniel Cameron as anti-teacher and anti-school over his position on school choice, stating the Cameron was going take money away from teachers and schools - when people brought that up to me during canvassing, it was an easy slam-dunk win, schools exist for students not teachers and no one is going to pay teaches less, if anything the education budget would increase and competition would raise the education standard. Cameron did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to address these two issues, I mean NOTHING. I would inform the canvassing coordinator of my observations but nothing changed - "Commercials are expensive and Daniel's campaign can't afford them." This is where I blame Ronna Romney, that piece of bat guano leading the Republican party. Brasheer also marketed himself as pro-business and an economic champion, taking credit for KY's budget surplus and sound financial standing - it's always tough to beat that.

If you want to blame anyone for the Daniel Cameron loss, whether there was cheating or not, you have to blame him and bat guano Romney, I mean McDaniels.

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NAB's avatar

So, once again, it's Republicans who don't know how to campaign, frame issues or even find a coherent, simple message. (And, also, sadly, too many people who have been indoctrinated to believe that people have a RIGHT to kill inconvenient children).

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JLo2112's avatar

100% - they have no clue on how to put forth a coherent message even when they have a distinct and significant advantage.

The democrats could sell refrigerators to Eskimos, but a Republican would have problems selling them space heaters. If met head-to-head, the democrat would cite every possible safety issue with space heaters in order to push the refrigerator, even though the Eskimo could use and may even need a space heater. If the Eskimo bought a space heater, they'd be violating their heritage and principles based on living in the cold if they bought one. Buy the refrigerator instead, it's cold and will serve you well, whether you need it or not, it matches who you are as a person and an Eskimo.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

And the Democrats have messaging advantages like, "dude your igloo will melt."

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Of course Eskimos (Inuit) don't live in igloos and supposedly never did live in them, they were temporary shelter only.

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Jenn's avatar

What a perfect analogy! And horrendously accurate. 😣

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

We had this same conversation in November a year ago.

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CMCM's avatar

Actually, Nikki Haley made a good point about abortion. If you don't have a supermajority in the Senate (60 votes), you won't be able to change the laws on abortion. Period. She also pointed out that the GOP hasn't had a supermajority for 100 years. So the GOP needs to get off the whole abortion issue as their big talking point and focus on getting more senators elected.

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NAB's avatar

Well, I think the point of Dobbs was to return the issue to the states, right? So. Mission accomplished. I mean, I would love a country-wide prohibition against the killing of innocents (if we want to talk about genocide, we can start with abortion), but I know my view is in the minority right now and it seems Dobbs is allowing for residents in states to determine abortion policies.

Neocon Nikki is right about the supermajority, though. Fair enough. But if Republicans can't articulate the abhorrent act of killing fully formed human beings, they are beyond useless. Is abortion a big talking point for the GOP at the federal level or is it one with which they are confronted by the media and simply don't know how to handle? I'm with Matt Walsh in saying that not a single Republican politician has effectively engaged in the issue. Again, I think it will take decades to get a majority of people to recognize the humanity of the unborn child, but we can't just say, "oh, well. No super majority."

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Mel Clifton's avatar

The amount of Kentuckians who clearly enjoyed being infantilized by Beshear was astounding… gushing about his “Covid performance” even when standing in line to vote.

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JLo2112's avatar

Many think voting for Brashear makes them objective and even independent voters because THEY can choose whom they want based on the merits of the choice. It's ridiculous because Brashear has few if any merits associated with responsible governance.

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Mel Clifton's avatar

Could not agree more. Everything I needed to know about him he showed in spades the last few years. The “all-knowing, benevolent ruler”… an actor for the Democratic Party playing his part.

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Anthony's avatar

I'm more in shock that people still believe what is said in a political ad.

I don't really like the trend of calling people NPCs, I find it dehumanizing. But man, do they sure make it difficult.

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JLo2112's avatar

I think people, especially responsible people, have a tendency to want to believe what they hear. They tend to loose sight of the past and focus on the here and now, and right now, things are OK.

Their decisions reflect a gross lack in critical thinking skills which are essentially a collection of questions aimed at validating information and assumptions. It's a world view of systemic doubt with an inherent understanding of the many personal biases that one may have.

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AusYank's avatar

My Mom was a political activist, worked as Admiral Byrd's secretary until he fired for for refusing to wear a Better Dead Than Red button. She studied all the issues, thought about pros and cons, and decided to work for Adlai Stevenson. On election night she was on the bus back from the voting place, one of the women behind her said "I'm going to vote for Ike, he's got a nice smile". She thought oh well there goes my vote

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LMWC's avatar

The same thing happened in Michigan last year. 10 GOP candidates started out vying for the Republican nomination for governor. 3 months in, 5 were eliminated by our SOS for campaign irregularities. Of the five remaining, four were male and one female. All of the candidates were pro life and admitted as much, but very early on Right to Life endorsed the lone female. Later Trump endorsed her also. All of the candidates had no prior political experience. A small group of freedom fighters did streaming interviews of all five candidates. They were in depth and very good interviews, but they got no statewide exposure at all. The woman got the nod and almost immediately the abortion issue became the topic everywhere. Two debates shown on one statewide network and the Republican candidate seemed to mop the floor with the our reigning governor, but few people saw the debate. The GOP offered no tv support or print ad. The candidate got a tour bus two weeks before the election and was all over the state doing parking lot rallies, but no one knew until they were over.

The leftist governor was re elected, and I could lay that squarely at GOP manipulation, but I believe as hated as this governor was, no way was she re elected. But as Jeff stated, there is no proof.

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Gigi's avatar

Follow the money.

I live in KY right now and Beshear had a great deal of money for advertising and ran a constant and effective ad campaign. I watch ROKU and there were about half a dozen Beshear ads during every 45 minute episode. And very very few Cameron ads.

The most recent Beshear ad was a chunky KY couple walking and holding hands who learned at their 20 week ultrasound that the baby had anencephaly and would be born without a brain. The condition was "incompatible with life and we terminated. Daniel Cameron would force women like me to give birth"

Before that ad, there were multiple ads threatening that Daniel Cameron was going to "take health insurance away from 1.8 million Kentuckians. And that pre-exisiting conditions such as diabetes, asthma, and cancer were no longer going to be covered if he was elected."

OTH, the ONLY ad I saw from Daniel Cameron was one where he and Donald Trump appeared together proudly announcing Trump's endorsement.

I don't vote in KY as I am a FL snowbird and FL resident and voter, but I can definitely understand why Beshear won due to the relentless scare tactics. And frankly a Trump endorsement doesn't impress me (and I don't think I'm alone in that judgement). If you look at a map, it was the bigger cities and the poor Appalachian areas of Eastern KY that carried Beshear. "Compassionate" pro-choice progressives, and people who "draw" for a living (AKA on disability/government dependents).

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Newsmax reported during the Trump speech, that the DNC spent 18 mil on Beshear to Cameron's 4 mil, with zero support from the RNC... This is exactly why we no longer give to the RNC! Send any donations directly to the candidate!

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R Kivenas's avatar

Though must point out, Fox News identified a "human error" was noted in yesterdays election of voting machines changing votes over to the other candidate.......???I wonder how that happened and the illegal Wanda ballot harvesting...

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JLo2112's avatar

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if that happened.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

The state GOP failed Mr. Cameron imho. If he’s a new political face he probably doesn’t know a lot about campaign know-how. From description here he’s a solid conservative but needed help coordinating a message.

Mitch & Co. probably didn’t want a newbie messing things up.

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JLo2112's avatar

Except for the fact that he is or actually was the state AG, so he was elected 4 yrs ago. But as we can see, the lower offices ride a very high red wave in KY in almost every election. And IMHO, KY republicans have a tendency to vote split ticket when they see fit. I agree, the state republican party probably didn't do enough, but they did do a lot in this last election. I recently got involved with the party (4 months ago), mainly attending caucus meetings and they are a bit behind.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

As reading before you said it I was thinking it was all budget and commercials and that’s why he did not fight back. That is much why Ramaswamy and Trump could win- bevause they are independantly wealthy and can buy their ads.

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Texas Pete's avatar

Thanks for making me look up "oleaginous". I don't think I can pronounce it well enough to work it into casual conversation but if I see it again I can feel smart for a brief period of time.

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ChrisB's avatar

O-lee-adj-inous

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Gregg Keyes's avatar

That way I can verify the information, ask the witness questions, and get an affidavit that might actually be useful for something." and that is why I recommend C & C to my friends. I tell them, he's a State lawyer making public statements, he can't afford to be lacking evidence to support any statement he makes. Unlike every other 'expert' that rambles on regardless of proof. Like politicians and media.

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree!!!

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Donna in MO's avatar

Saw the same thing 'D's cheated and that's why we lost' all over local social pages yesterday. OK yeah there is some sketchiness BUT R's have a messaging problem. School board bloodbath yesterday in the KS county just west of me. 3 largest school districts ALL of the Conservative candidates lost. By 10 point margins or more. Local news station interviewing voters made it very clear: Conservatives have a messaging problem. Negative messaging about everything they are against is not winning hearts and minds. This is something our local SB candidate advocacy group needs to learn from. There are many who are convinced that if we just 'wake enough people up' that we can win. That ship has sailed, and it's time to change messages. In local, the left runs as moderates, and then turns radical after they win. We need to take a page from that playbook.

BUT good news is conservatives DID turn out and voted down a county wide proposed use tax in my county. The left spent $75K+ on the campaign PAC and we just had a hardy group of volunteers who spent the last several weeks telling people about the lie (businesses will pay, not citizens), and there are already funds to pay for the things they are saying the money will go for, and how much the county is spending ($1M) to even hold this election. Phone calls, non-stop social media messaging and lots and lots of text messages Monday and election day won the day over $75K of slick mailers. Defeated it by 10K votes and their estimated 5% turnout was 14%.

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Jen's avatar

This is exactly the problem we're having here. They run attack ads on M4L and call it a hate group. Low information voter women are terrified of being associated with that label and vote against them. It makes no sense! Why do you want your kids reading porn in school? We are not the extremists - they are. And yet they've gaslit everyone and convinced them of the opposite. I am not sure how we change this messaging. I'd love to hear ideas because it's crushing us in this area.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I wish I knew. I LOVED Mike Johnson's "7 core principles" speech and think that is the winning message. But not sure how to get that out there when the left controls the media. I suppose it comes down to how we beat the use tax issue. Repeating the same message over, and over, and over. I recently took an Americans for Prosperity messaging class, and one thing that really stuck with me is that we have to answer the WIIFM question. What's in it for me? I don't think R's in general are answering that. They are too busy playing defense to go on offense. Ronna McDaniel needs to GO for sure, though.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I wonder if part of the problem isn't that exact thing, though - if all citizens care about is 'what's in it for me,' we're sunk. In fact, I think most Dem messaging is about what's good for everyone as a group, even if it's actually a satanic lie.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well WIIFM can be 'the good of the community' - and what was "it's the economy, stupid", other than self interest? Going back to Mike Johnson's 7 core principles: things like freedom, rule of law, and human dignity are all things that benefit us all.

Business press and speakers at events and such all talk about this drive (especially in the younger generations) to want to make a difference. Just had a project at work where I was reading a lot of job postings. Lots of employers selling themselves and their jobs as 'making a difference' in one way or the other.

What was Make America Great Again other than a call to act and make a difference? People are looking for stuff to believe in, The long march through the institutions, and covid BS, has shown that many of our once pillars of the community aren't what we thought they were. Yes, there is faith in God and a return to morality - but we have to meet people where they are. Beating them over the head with bible quotes and disdain for their lifestyles is not working. How about Let's cut red tape, (over-regulation and bureaucracy are big factors) and get more people housing they can afford. Let's look at transitional housing strategies that move people from homeless to self sufficiency instead of Housing First that traps people in a cycle of government solutions that don't work?! Let's hold up our first responders and talk about the cop who bought groceries with his own money after a welfare check turned out to be a family in need.

Reagan won with his 'shining city on the hill' which was a stark contract to Jimmy Carter's famous 'malaise speech' where he listed all the negative things that were facing the American people at the time. It called on people to feel sorry for themselves, NOT aspire to do better and be better.

Ok off my soapbox....

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Fla Mom's avatar

Re messaging, "what's in it for me" sounds selfish, not for the good of all, but that's just my own opinion.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Excellent post!! 👏👏👏

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Jen's avatar

That's exactly right - constant defense trying to defend against complete outlandish lies. They're always putting up signs and going on the attack on numerous message boards, starting up petitions, calling local politicians to get them to intervene (with our board), etc. They're at it all day long it seems!

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Jenn's avatar

They are all over Nextdoor as well. It's like they are looking for ways to interject their agenda even if the original post had nothing to do with politics. They start out attacking someone for their observation on a matter/situation and once OG poster walks into the trap, the lib attacks. It is a pattern I am noticing. I wonder if it's a bot program? It happens in every post I've read. After I caught on, I was furious because the original poster was just letting their community know what happened, safety-wise. It's really disgusting.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I keep getting invites to Next door but I blow them off. Heard similar stories about what a cesspool it is.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I don't know exactly how I started getting their emails...incessant I might add! And, they are impossible to cut off! I've replied to their how to cancel section no less than a dozen times... "You have requested to cancel our service. You will no longer receive emails from NEXT DOOR." Then 5 seconds later... I'm back deleting! They're like an over due notice written to the former homeowner...impossible to stop!

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Donna in MO's avatar

I know - it's crazy - but I say it over and over. The left plays the long game. They were infiltrating my once red city all the way back in 2008 - and trying to wake up conservatives to what was going on behind the scenes was and still is an uphill battle, Oh I get it - conservatives more likely to be involved in church, coaching kid's ball teams, raising kids. I took my kids to political stuff. My son spoke in public comments at city council meetings when a lego land development was proposed, (he was crushed it didn't pass), and yes there were things I missed when kids were sick or things got busy at work but I did my best. But people have to start finding the time, not complaining that 'its boring' (yeah a lot of city business is boring but the devil is in the details) or it 'doesn't matter'. Yeah you win some lose some, yeah, people are busy, but what choice do we have!? Giving up? Not me, I refuse to let them beat us down. Sadly a lot are. A whole bunch jumped in over the covid stuff - we won a race here and there but lost some too and people have just given up. I keep saying we didn't get here overnight and we won't change things overnight. Our local elections are in April, we have some momentum, but not sure it's going to be enough.....

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Jacquie's avatar

We have said that time and time again. Conservatives have a messaging problem. Fix that and you’ll start winning minds.

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Credenda's avatar

I wonder if it’s simply a messaging problem, or the truth that as a nation we have moved further and further away from God. Our national values are truly “what’s in it for me” rather than “how do I honor God in my life”. We are reaping what we’ve sown. Pray for his mercy. Pray that we turn back to Him.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

It may be a messaging problem, but you are hitting the more important part.

The day will come when each and every one will kneel and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. But there are some hard times coming between now and then.

The Prodigal Sons and Daughters have their inheritance (all of the good that Christian civilization has created) and are heading for party town. We know how it ends, but there's a lot of dissipation that has to come first.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I agree, Credenda.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Mainly bc tough issues call for tough answers. ANSWERS take longer to deliver. Dems are great at sound bites that solve nothing.

Their messaging is shallow, quick, & riles the marginal voters.

Attended a GOP Women’s Conference in DC in late 90’s. Big topic was messaging.

Dems sound bites vs. genuine solutions that take more than 5 words to articulate.

Sesame Street shortened the attention spans a generation or more.

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CaplT's avatar

So true.

The answers are more complicated than the attacking 5-word motto.

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rolandttg's avatar

Similar here. The horrible DA in Loudon County VA lost, but she won't concede until all of the absentee ballots are manufactured, I mean received. She's the one that arrested the father for protesting his daughter being raped in school by an LBQ whatever monster. and nothing being done about it.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

The democrats may really end up regretting taking over the school boards. There is a school choice movement in Kansas that is close to passing. All it will take is a few more school districts with pornographic books in the libraries, more schools getting aggressive about CRT and "trans"-ing the the kids, PLUS a republican governor, (or else a legislature super majority), and then parents will be getting $5-$8K to send their kids to private schools.

The Lawrence KS school district is in a financial shambles already. I can't even imagine what they will do if 1/4 of the kids leave in the first year. Then there will be a death spiral happening REALLY fast.

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