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Nov 9, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

I personally think you should just keep right on doing what you are doing, Jeff, and do it how you are doing it. You turned my dad from "I'm going to get the 'covid' shot so I can be protected" to "No way I'll ever get another booster" and a refusal of both the RSV and annual flu jab because he saw the corruption that was/is happening. I could not convince him, even with crying, begging, pleading and a genuine nervous breakdown to stay away from the clot shots, but you did simply by telling the truth as you saw it. So I figure I owe you and am grateful. Had it not been for you being you, he'd likely still be on the clot shot bandwagon or dead, like 3 of his friends. I say you keep going as is.

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I'll bite - how did you get your dad to read anything going against the narrative? I still have relatives who are ready to line up for every new shot. :(

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I was reading C&C one day and of course was laughing at Jeff's sarcasm, which I appreciate. There was one part that was particularly hilarious, I can't remember which one now, so I copied and pasted and sent to my dad. I believe it had something to do with democrat corruption, which my dad already believed in strongly. Anyhow, he thought it was funny. But he also read the rest of the thing, which mentioned "covid" corruption as well. I think the seed was planted then. Over the next week or so, I kept forwarding C&C to him. He finally wanted to subscribe. Now he reads every day and his attitude has changed about the jabs 180 degrees. So I guess it was presenting him with an article he would agree with and then he read the rest. Thank God.

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AMAZING!!! So few success stories these days, FourWinds, this absolutely made my day to hear this. You just planted a seed, and look what happened. The C&C train has left the station... can't wait to see how many other heads and hearts are converted. Have a wonderful day!

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Nov 9, 2023·edited Nov 9, 2023

wish I was so lucky. I forwarded it for several months to both of my sister in laws, the branch covidian just to P _ _ _ her off, and the younger one to try and enlighten her. After talking to her at the last family holiday dinner, I followed up with an offer to make her favorite meal and cocktail and let her and her husband ask me any questions they wanted. "Thanks for the generous offer, but I thing we'll pass " was her response. It was a waste, as she still trusts her doctor, the 4 stupidest words anyone can utter in the English language.

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I like how you made that offer. Dinner and cocktails, let's just talk. Very few people even do that post-lockdown. The old order of leftists would have jumped at the chance, especially because they believed so heartily in their own causes they would have loved a free meal, drink your booze and pontificate on their own causes. It was a win-win for them. Today, I don't know what the hell happened. They've been groomed to a level of lock down thinking that is so base, it's defined by a white hot hatred of any other thought that would question their own narrative. You become an actual threat because this narrative has become their religion and their god. All the best to you!

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“You become an actual threat because this narrative has become their religion and their god.”

That is why it’s so nefarious.

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“been groomed to a level of lock down thinking” -- YES!

Another casualty of “lockdowns” during covidmania.

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Wow....the resonates deeply with my experience with many I USED to be close to. So much loss through this debacle, it has been devastating.

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It sounds like the original poster cut and paste only the part the dad would buy into first. The dad liked that part of Jeff's commentary so much, he then read the entire c&c next, not realizing Jeff was going to red pill him. It was actually strategic and God took her dad further than anyone thought possible.

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Truthfully, I can't remember if I sent only that part or the whole thing the first time. Regardless, yes, thank God, it worked.

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totally agree!!

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I offered to donate to someone's favorite charity if they would read or watch videos. They were all "too busy."

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wow.

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Very creative!

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Because you have been pushing straight instead of pussy-footing to drive them where you want, in a place of questioning, you frightened them. And they pushed back. Propagandised people have a very very fragile ego, and this is the very reason why they are so vulnerable and touchy. They HATE realising they have been wrong. You have to take the commando approach in a fatigue and approaching slowly.... Hahahaha!

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I think articles in the early days when it was darkest were very effective. Glimmers of light in the dark.

Covid has unmasked the authoritarianism that most thought did not exist. Mask mandates, jab mandates, financial repercussions, employment repercussions.

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¨You are free to choose but if you do not get it, you loose your job¨. I told my friends about Nuremberg and that it was highly illegal and that perpetrators could end up badly ¨Following orders is not an excuse¨ didn't work. I told them it is EX-PE-RI-MEN-TAL! Asked them content of the vaxx. But since they said it is safe on TV! You know... Anyway I am lucky so far, 1 friend only suffered consequences, blood clot near heart. But alive and now visiting a cardiologist regularly.

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I'm so sorry. At least you tried, and really that is all any of us can do.

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She ‘“thinks she will pass” because your SIL doesn’t want to know anything about the Jabs, and the giant SCAM that COVID and the COVID Vaxxes continue to be...she doesn’t want to know about the error of her thinking and the decisions she (and her husband) made to get the Jabs. And even if they have experienced some ‘side effects’ from the Jabs, they will never admit the connection to their present state of health and the Jabs.

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And worse with this thinking if she had jabbed kids.

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In a doctor's office waiting room yesterday I overheard a conversation between two women. One said that besides the issue which had her in the doctor's office, she had a scary hospital stay with blood clots and a small stroke because of the 2 covid vaccines and a bout of covid. She kind of whispered that part out of fear she might offend someone? The other lady said to her that it was probably because her system was overloaded with covid. Then some comment about how they (gvt?) reacted too quickly or something.

Anyway, it is finally being talked about in real life, outside of safe spaces and the internet.

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I just want to say that some elementary and middle schools are now offering EKG screenings to students. I’ve never heard about anything like that being offered before. Something is up. What have they done to children? Unless it’s a move to push for school based clinics and to offer more medical services through schools as I heard there was something in the works in this regard.

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I wonder if anyone thinks about their children being able to get health insurance in the future if they are shown to already have baseline heart damage? At this point, if I was a parent, I would be super angry to find out the useless shot probably affected both my child’s physical health and financial health for the rest of their lives. I do t know what it’s going to take for parents to revolt and rise up against these medical tyrants pushing shot after shot on their kids.

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They’re not in quite as much denial as we think; they just can’t say anything (sorta like the corporate docs 🤬). No excuse!

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Nov 9, 2023·edited Nov 9, 2023

At my doctor's office they are taking EKG to get a baseline against potential future heart issues. I suspect this is just that. In case they have one even as an adult.

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Does anyone else remember the "Suri" ad about the young girl with myocarditis? Predictive programming at its worst. https://clashdaily.com/2022/09/watch-new-ad-begins-the-normalization-of-rare-childhood-myocarditis-what-suddenly-changed/

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Don't we know it is normal for kids to have heart attacks?

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Jeff’s humor is the soft sell, and his vast knowledge does the rest. He should start his editorials with ‘gentle reader’. 🥰

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The power of laughter/humor...

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Truly!!! I LIVE for the dopamine hits with my coffee each morning!

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Indeed! It’s quite magical.

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Does your dad read the comments too? If he does, he would be understandably proud of your contribution to the conversation.

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Thank you for your kind words. :) I can't get him to do the comments just yet. I'm working on it because you all have such good and funny things to say. Sometimes I read them to him, so he is getting some comments at least. :)

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I learn so much from the comments! And humor opens many a closed mind. It catches them off guard & leaves a small opening. Sometimes that's enough. Glad it was with your dad! 🙏

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RESOUNDING YES!

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Awesome! Way to go FourWinds and Jeff! Changing minds every day!

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What an awesome story! Thanks for sharing! Praise God!

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That was a very smart technique!

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Awesome - I too appreciate the "main dish" delivered with a bit of sarcasm on the side, Cheers!

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What a powerful testimony on telling truth (thank you Jeff!) and sharing. 💕

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I love that story fourwinds!!!! That’s encouraging to so many of us!

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You can't remember which article or sarcastic remark it was? 🤣

I am NOT making fun of your lack of memory!! 🤣🤣

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I get it. But yes, my memory is bad but I can laugh at it! :) 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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That’s awesome! 👍

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❤️❤️❤️

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Congrats! I'm still sharing and talking about C&C newsletter to anyone who will listen. Hope to change perspectives for those I care about.

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My husband of 37 years is about the get his 4th AND the flu shot.

I on the other hand, will never vaccinate another living creature as long as I live.

HOW DO YOU GUYS GET THEM TO SEE THE LIGHT???? My husband won’t even let me finish a sentence. My 3 grown children, 2 of whom got 2 shots, will never get another. My son planned to get them all and wound up getting none! He has seen the light. He actually

listened to

ME and to Rogan!!! I’m in awe.

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I hope this doesn't sound harsh, but make sure his life insurance policy is increased. When I couldn't talk my husband out the the J&J to keep his job back in 2021, I insisted he raise the benefit amount of his policy. It may seem cold, but the risk is great.

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I was going to comment about life insurance as well.

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The Global Head of Capgemini's Insurance Industry consultancy said the industry is baffled and alarmed by the spike in deaths under 45. Oh what could it be. But they are starting to notice https://insurancenewsnet.com/innarticle/excess-mortality-continuing-surge-causes-concerns

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Puzzled. Baffled. Flaggerblasted. confused , baffled , mystified, stumped, at a loss, perplexed, bewildered , clueless, dumbstruck, dumbfounded, thrown, nonplussed, confounded, staggered , doubtful , unsure, not sure is the new normal.

THERE IS NO ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!

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See my post above, in FRance.

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Great minds think alike.

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My Dr asked if I’d had my flu shot. I said “I will never ever get another flu shot.” She said “did you get the Covid vax? “ I said, “never will….NO”

She said “are you anti-vax?”

I said “I never was before FAUCHI. “She sat there in her little mask and said, “HMMMMMM”

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My comment from a previous day’s post ended up being the following rant:

I find it appalling that the Pharma industry, via the defense industry, creates a ‘new’ vaccine in ‘months’ and it is blindly recommended for everyone. It isn’t even a vaccine. It is an immunologic. The lies around the covid jab are tremendous and yet the vast majority of the medical establishment are still spouting the ‘safe and effective’ mantra. Show me the studies showing that, especially ones which are not done by Pharma with a pre-approved outcome in place to get the funding. Show me the autopsies of those who died within a month of vaccination of things we KNOW can be adverse effects of the ‘vaccine.’ Show me a government agency whose employees and whose budgets are not captured by money from Big Pharma to recommend their products. It is a clown show beyond compare. I have NO faith in any of the alphabet soup of government agencies and aside from trauma and surgical care, I have little faith in a lot of allopathic medicine. It is a multi-pronged problem. The vast majority of people want a pill to ‘fix’ their issue. Newly diagnosed high BP—here’s a pill. People want a quick easy fix. That isn’t what they need. They need a swift kick in their pants to change their lifestyles, their diets, their habits. Our food supply is mostly processed crap. Even our fruits and veggies are grown with pesticides and fertilizers and in soil depleted by over farming such that even a ‘healthy’ diet doesn’t cut it. Most supplements are also minimally bioavailable and a waste of money. Doctors are busy working, they don’t have much free time to read, do, and study to see how awful the recommendations from the alphabet soup are mostly corrupt and worthless. It’s disheartening to continually say that I work with some of the smartest dumb people going. The true history of all vaccines is pretty awful, the history of the Covid vaccine, that we know, is terrible. I am a damn good nurse. I care so much about my coworkers, my patients, and my students, but it is disillusioning to have my entire career field blindly follow big Pharma down the path to sickness and death for so many, because money, because greed, because power, because ‘they said’ to take it, do it, give it, prescribe it. Etc. Look into the truth about remdesivir and ivermectin and tell me how doctors were/are losing their licenses for prescribing ivermectin to their patients. It makes NO sense! It is getting beyond criminal to diabolical in my opinion. Our world is going to hell in a handbasket made by big Pharma, guided by a ruling class selling us down the road of lies in so many other areas—global warming, green energy, the new world order, the corrupt policies of the federal reserve, our growing national debt to the federal reserve….its all a crock of crap and lies. BUT GOD IS IN CONTROL, so I continue to try to learn the truth, speak the truth, live the truth, and love on anyone around me. That’s what I want to base my life on…TRUTH…I don’t care where it leads and what it shows. I am fine admitting that I have gotten something wrong and learning something new. I want to know the truth. I think there will be so many pediatricians, when they get to heaven, who will be heartbroken at the absolute harms they caused so many of their small patients with routine vaccines. I think many physicians and nurses and healthcare providers will be devastated at the harms they, too, perpetrated because of blind trust and an ideology way off base from true health. Anyway, rant over! May our eyes be opened to truth, so we can all learn together and live honorably, and love each other!

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yes, it has steamrollered its full-speed-ahead demolition "beyond criminal to diabolical" ~ exactly my opinion, as well.

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These people never cease to amaze me! They just don't get it.

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Good on you!

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Good for you. Maybe she also needs to hear this comment: “Don’t pin a label on me, just because I choose to not put certain products into my body.” I’m so glad I stopped going to these conventional doctors (for years now, I see a functional medicine MD).

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If you are living in close proximity to such a heavily jabbed person, you owe it to yourself to read Dr. Kory's 8-part substack laying out the evidence that your husband is probably shedding spike protein that will likely make you sick. Assuming divorce is not an option (it's too late anyway) there are detox protocols you can follow to try to protect yourself. It's a bit depressing since by this time we have ALL been exposed to people who are shedding, but especially with a jab-happy spouse or close-proximity family member you should be fully informed. Dr. Kory's Part One is at this link; it has the links to the rest of the series at the end.

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/shedding-of-covid-mrna-vaccine-components

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Thank you for mentioning not vaccinating another living thing. I have a 17 year old completely indoor kitty who has been vaccinated only twice, and a 15 yo chihuahua mix who has had several but we have skipped some years. At this point I’m not letting her have anymore, and the oral flea stuff is poison imho.

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We use Ivermectin for our puppy to prevent fleas and ticks 1x per month. We also will use goat dewormer every 6 months... The breeder gave us the list of what she uses. Only first vaccines, then no more rabies other than the first one... We've just added a puppy after a 15 yr hiatus from pets due to worsening asthma that I no longer have... because when covid hit, we used Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquin for 5 days (to get well quickly). It took 48 hours to be symptom free. And the "highly toxic and so dangerous it will kill you horse dewormer" healed me from life long asthma...

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Could you expand on the asthma please? I have at least one grand child with asthma and certain her mother would be open to trying something different. TY.

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We took Ivermectin for covid along with the Hydroxychloroquin, zinc, vit C and D and a z-pak. I noticed fairly quickly (within 12 hours) that my cough was gone and my chest wasn't tight. By day two I continued to feel better, as if my asthma was going away. I would have usually needed my inhalers and quite possibly prednisone with an upper respiratory infection, but the virus was almost completely gone. Within 48 hours no symptoms. My asthma and my long time cough were gone. That was December 25th-27th 2021. I no longer have asthma. Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic. When I was examined and scoped in 2011 for an acute asthma event, the biopsy showed increased eosinophils... which can be caused by parasites... It is quite possible that the Ivermectin took care those... and cured my asthma. Ivermectin is safe, billions of prescriptions have been written. It is also one of the 5 greatest drugs ever pavailable according to the WHO.

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Oh Lordy, even now??? So sorry!

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Even now…

The irony is, 37 years ago when we got

married, he was all naturopath this & that, used only osillicoxemim for colds and flu. I’d never heard of

any of that & just thought he was interesting.

His MOM drank straight chlorophyll and ate cacao instead of chocolate. I’m deeply suspicious of anyone who doesn’t eat chocolate! 😝 As to the chlorophyll, I just hoped she’d look in a mirror one day and see that she isn’t a PLANT.

Anyway, 37 years later, she eats a lot

of chocolate, ONLY drinks water and my

husband??? He goes to the doctor for every little hang nail and slathers

on sunscreen like Krispy Kreme glazes

donuts.

I’m the weirdo who purposely gets bee stings on my

arthritic joints! (Don’t laugh. It works!)

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Yes it works. There are remedies that use that. And nettles for circulation. Not my cup of favourite remedies! Hahahaha!

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Nov 10, 2023·edited Nov 10, 2023

🤣 Okay, this is Jeff quality writing right there! 😁 Thanks for brightening my evening! (Upgraded husband’s iPhone iOS and it hasn’t worked since. I did the same upgrade; no issues. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ Still trying… ) Mrs Fred

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I am so deeply sorry to hear this. I have family doing the same.

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Assuming you still have any kind of physical relationship and live in the same house please consider taking strong actions against the effects of shedding. Dr. Pierre Kory has a series of stacks on this subject. FLCCC has a protocol. https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/shedding-of-covid-mrna-vaccine-components

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In FRance, they refused to pay a life insurance because the guy has committed suicide -technically- by getting injected with an EXPERIMENTAL substance. And for once, I know they do not like to pay, but they are right. I'd like to know whether those insurance companies required their employees to commit suicide, by the way...

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It is tough! I have a friend in that situation, all kids vaxxed, yet they call her nuts! Very hard on her! And after vaxx, she visited them, and her son -she was not even started to make a comment- said Shut up, Mum, OK, shut up¨ because he had Covid which you know, you will not get it, > You will get it mild blahblahblah... Ad libitum. And her daughter had a clot in her leg...

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Like other have commented this may sound cold also, but when the shots came out there were some resources that provided a pre written type of contract for spouses that basically said the other spouse will not be responsible to take care of the spouse who decides to take the shot. I guess that frees the one spouse from becoming a care taker for life since the other spouse made a self destructive decision. The contract did list all the risks that the spouse would agree to. Sickness and health wedding vows and all, but its kind of the same thing if one spouse gets deep into heroine or something, the other spouse didnt sign up for that at the altar.

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If you read Pierre Kory, MD, you can be at risk when your husband gets vaccinated from his shedding.

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It seems to me, for those closest to us, it’s not entirely what is said or even how, it’s more about who is saying it.

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So true!! My two boys make me so mad that they think I would lie to them. I have never lied to them. I ask them, who do you think taught you how to talk? Or walk? Did I teach you anything wrong? It's so crazy! Now if Biden came on and said it, they would believe it! And that damn pedophile is dead!!!

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Nailed it 🎯

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Bingo. Sometimes it has to come from someone else. Like Jeff. If you can get them to read.

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Yes, me too - they just simple trust Fauci, the CDC and the government - it's is their blood and now so is the plasmid DNA containing SV 40 - so sad...

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Do you think the ones who were vaccinated and had no reaction at all, still have that? Thank you! God Bless you.

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Time will tell. I hope they don’t.

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I read an article that said Pfizer had different batches (including a special placebo one for their staff), some were straight killers, others slow killers and some inoffensive or lesser.

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Thank you Michele. Blue States were the lesser of the States with the least amount of Deaths per thousand. Red States have the most. So sick. They know where the worst batches went. Some Countries have so many. And still dying!!! I wonder if these deaths that Jeff posts, are from new Vaccines that have just come out?

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I don't know! All I know that, compared to what those monsters did to humanity, Hitler was a choir boy!

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Nov 9, 2023·edited Nov 9, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

That is awesome FourWinds!! What great encouragement for us. I have forwarded this to many people and several are now regular subscribers. Can’t say they were braindead covidians, but still…every person including ourselves can learn from the truth.

And I so appreciate the balance Jeff brings with telling the truth, reporting factual stuff, corrections if he makes an error, not getting on any bandwagons and encouraging us to keep it local and showing us why! He is moving the needle more than these conservative “influencers” (I abhor that word too) who blather on about braindead biden and Superman. Once again, Jeff nailed it today! Thank you sir!

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Yes, avoiding the bandwagons! SO rare.

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That's because he has no Ego! I love it!!

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Agree! There is considerable fear-mongering rhetoric from the conservative side of the influence industry. Too bad they stoop to the level above which they claim to be. 😖

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Nov 9, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

I unsubscribed from a dozen other sites because all they do is spew passionate rants with nothing to back them up. Yes, it's what I want to hear, but it's not what I need to hear. How is that any different from MSM with their non-stop lies and manipulations.

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Couldn’t agree more, BSS. I’m steadily unsubscribing from the doom scrolling sites and sticking with the ones which actually inform me!

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Sorry: BBS not BSS

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A purging is coming for me as well.

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Nov 9, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

I just want to chime in that I appreciate Jeff’s approach to only presenting things with real

evidence using his lawyer eyes. This helps in convincing unbelievers. However, admittedly, there are many issues I wish Jeff would cover and offer suggestions on…. like for ex the WHO and CBDC. ;) We love you Jeff.

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Lisa, yes - would love to hear more on the WHO/WEF ! Jeff commented some time ago that if/when the WHO treaty went into effect in the USA, there would be tons of law suits - so not to worry. But I do...

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Nov 9, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

Jeff, YOU are saving lives ! We ALL need to continue to plant seeds .

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I have recently had the same experience multiple times. When someone tells me that mores time than not the phrase “Thank God” escapes from my mouth.

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Nov 9, 2023·edited Nov 9, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

Jeff your legal-minded restraint is simultaneously required yet frustrating at times for your C&C readers but creatively crafting and narrating a believable reality to a judge or jury while another party does so with a competing analysis and version or opinion IS your job. The amalgam of portrayed potential truths and perceived facts and consensus of conclusion that a ruling comes to is NOT ever 100% comprehensive nor Just nor Truthful but an approximation of these and hopefully mostly correct. WE will fume when we don't see enough passion or a proper weight given on a topic but we are most often merely witnesses, or observers sitting in the court room with the theater playing out in front of us inspired to jump in and make a different play call or tell the referee that he/she is both unfair and blind. We need legal empowerment and appetite and training to undertake what is required to combat the destruction of our birthright system by THE SYSTEM itself and those who've hijacked it and now use it against us and darkly view the results as their moral imperative. (Only speaking for myself perhaps).

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I agree, WP. I am so thankful for Jeff's words because they teach me lawyer thinking. Jeff teaches me how to carefully read a sentence, and how to wait before pouncing. I am more comfortable with farming things, and can talk gopher-hunt strategy all day; I hope Jeff knows that he reaches a wide variety of people and professions. We all encounter many souls as we live our lives and one never knows which tiny little comment is the planted seed

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Yes, and I am not frustrated by Jeff's postings, I am grateful for any grounded and supportable dialogue whether by Jeff or his readers.

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WHAT? I am so happy for you about your dad! You never know what will flip them. What a blessing!

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This is great, love that Jeff helped persuade your dad!

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In a doctor's office waiting room yesterday I overheard a conversation between two women. One said that besides the issue which had her in the doctor's office, she had a scary hospital stay with blood clots and a small stroke because of the 2 covid vaccines and a bout of covid. She kind of whispered that part out of fear she might offend someone? The other lady said to her that it was probably because her system was overloaded with covid. Then some comment about how they (gvt?) reacted too quickly or something.

Anyway, it is finally being talked about in real life.

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Same here. Spouse bought into the fear now never again.

I occasionally forwarded Jeff’s emails starting late 2021 and I just remarked “funny.” The snark, legal perspective and optimism lured in the fish.

I occasionally forwarded links by doctors, McCullough or someone else, that I learned about including from C&C commenters and just remarked “interesting.”

This is an excellent group of commenters, and a (mostly) well behaved and concerned bunch without (mostly) pile-ons.

Commenters here tend to back up statements with links, so comments are as valuable as Jeff’s articles.

Now we are both subscribed and spouse is in charge of boosting both of our our immune systems, not jabboosting.

Spouse has said to many people “I regret having taken the shots” and can explain why. I never said “I told you so” and will not.

My only success but an important one.

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That is so awesome to hear!! Wish my two Sons would read!! I agree with what you said to Jeff!

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I should get my dad to read C&C!!! Great idea!!

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Well said 4W!

Later Jay

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Nov 9, 2023·edited Nov 9, 2023

I loved when Vivek went after the media. "“Think about who’s moderating this debate, this should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk. We’d have 10 times the viewership, asking questions the GOP primary voters actually care about and bring in more people to our party. We got Kristen Welker here, you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate?” Ramaswamy asked.

“The fact of the matter, and Kristen I’m gonna use this time cause this is actually about you and the media and the corrupt media establishment, ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years — was that real? Or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation? Answer the question. Go.”

https://dailycaller.com/2023/11/08/vivek-ramaswamy-nbc-debate-rnc-lester-holt-kristen-welker-tucker-carlson/

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It's very telling who is going after Vivek for speaking the truth.

So many Republicans glommed onto Trump when they thought it would be advantageous to their political ambitions but the second Trump faced persecution, they went silent. Now they're criticizing anyone who dares to speak up. The Republican party is pathetic.

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I watched a video yesterday of a split screen of Obummer and Vivek. First obummer's clip was played then Viveck's clip. Viveck's clips were essentially word for word what obummer said. I didn't trust him before (gut feeling), now I really don't trust him.

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None of them are to be trusted! I've gotten flack because I even have questions about Trump, but I'm deadly serious when I say that. Am I paranoid? Sure am. Doesn't mean all these politicians aren't first rate traitorous rats!

That also doesn't negate the truth of what Vivek said. Or Obama, for that matter. As long as the message is getting out so people can consider these ideas, I don't care who they come from.

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Obummer, FJB!, or Viveck. All the same.

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Right. Truth is Truth - regardless of who is speaking the words.

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And a traitor to the country is a traitor to the country, no matter what color he is....or how slick.

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I also have big questions about Trump.

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He was groomed by obummer.

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Thank you. In fact Vivek, who does impress me with his sharpness, is much like Hussein o, in that so little is really known about him. He’s not been vetted at all, he appears out of nowhere running for president. How does that happen? He’s groomed.

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Just like Obummer!! I had never heard of him. All of a sudden this man with this so called compassionate voice, comes on the scene and the people went crazy for a Black President. And was brown for Muslim!! My truck driving brother told me all about him, and then he wouldn't put his hand over his heart for the beautiful National Anthem!! That was all I needed to know he wasn't for America!! And to know what he really was. I say he is the worst president we ever had!! God Bless.

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He’s trying hard to change the perception of him, but I don’t trust him either

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100 % agree. Something bugged me and then I listened and researched his Pharma and WEF ties. Hence why I can him Vivek Pharmaswampy. I stole that from someone else but it fits. He’s got a slick tongue and says what he thinks conservatives want to hear. He’s a swamp creature all the way.

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I don't either, but appreciate the call out!

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Bandit, it isn't the words themselves, its the person who is speaking the words. Imagine if Jeff were speaking those words...would you then not trust Jeff?

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It would make me stop and think for myself. It would make me compare those words with the copious things he's already said. It would make me think about him as a whole and how he has walked the walk.

Viveck is a little slick, maybe a little slimy? He sounds good, but we have no idea how he will follow up on what he says, but we've seen what someone that says all the right slogans does TO the country.

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Agree. He says all the right things but there’s just something about his way that bothers me. A bit too slick and yes, maybe even a little slimy although that does seem harsh.…..

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I don't know a word for mildly slimy. 😉😊😋

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Not too harsh! We shouldn't shy from the truth just because it's unpalatable.

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Do you have a link? I’d love to see that. (Doesn’t surprise me)

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I’ve seen it too. Sent to me. Wish I could find it as well- shows Vivek at dem conventions asking questions.

Too slick for me.

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I wish I had saved the link. It was in a substack yesterday.

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Vivek and some very suspect Private/Public partners started a Pharmaceutical Company, I agree with what he said last night, take a deep dive into this candidate and listen for the Obama speak, word for word. Interesting

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RENEGADE REPUBLICANS unite; start local but always express a national VISION and Internationally both a realistic but orderly and just view of a family of nations and peoples; push the weak-kneed Globalist Statist-Corporatist Relucticants in the GOP to writing checks and deciding to join in or fleeing a rising activist populist agenda--made so by THEIR own mis-dis and mal-performance for generations, their perpetual inaction and complicity to subvert the country and the working class in favor of the shirking class that wants to drive the bus and assign seating. There will be a few elitist defectors to the cause of saving the nation and restoring our heritage and birthright (at least Tucker thinks so?) Viva Vivek!

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Nice!

Later Jay

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Just curious…did you happen to see the rant MTG went on X yest about the republicans?

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I did not. Do you have a link? I saw she's filed impeachment articles against Mayorkas because two of her constituents were killed by a coyote running illegals, but other than that, I haven't heard anything.

I am not her biggest fan. I think she's gross. I think she's loose and will do anything for attention. I think she serves a purpose in that she's so ridiculous and brings so much attention to herself that she's a wildcard for the GOP and I'm not opposed to that. I'm not opposed to anyone who stops them from doing business as usual.

I think she's just as compromised as the rest of the ruling class and that limits her effectiveness.

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Vivek's opening observations about Ronna McDaniel, the GOP culture of losing, and the "Cheney in three-inch heels" line aimed at Nikki Haley were classic. The expression on Haley's face as Vivek went through her MIC curriculum vitae said it all. Vivek says the right things but, as always, mere rhetoric isn't worth much. It's a clown show.

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Unfortunately, we may never know if Vivek's words would be backed up by action.

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Vivek reminds me of Tulsi Gabbard's guerilla candidacy during the 2020 election cycle. She saw what the DNC had become and attempted to sound the alarm to party constituents. In the end, she was accused of being a 'Russian plant' to a chorus of applause led by the party establishment, Biden won, and she left the party. Like Tulsi, everything Vivek said is true. Also like Tulsi, Vivek's concerns will fall on deaf ears.

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And Ron Paul will welcome them both to his (our) nightmare.

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There's a reason P.J. O'Rourke referred to them as the 'Uniparty'. They serve the same interests.

Tucker Carlson had an interesting exchange with Glenn Greenwald where they discussed how leading republicans such as Ron DeSantis are using the same censorship tactics to shut down critics of Israel that democrats have been using dating back to 2015. It took me back to the days following 9/11 when anyone who dared suggest that Iraqi complicity in 9/11 was absurd (and all that ensued such as the GWOT, Patriot Act, etc.) were shut down by Bush and the neocons as unpatriotic or, even worse, terrorist sympathizers. The parties take turns switching roles but the tactics are always the same.

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I share the view and feel the pain. The GOP serves the same interests and the same people as the DNC. They are beholden to concepts like big government and globalization. Those things are why they are wealthy in the first place. It's why we keep sliding leftward no matter who is elected to what bodies of government.

Applying Jeff's Local >>> National model, the candidates that are "promoted" from local to state are the ones who are aligned with the interests of the people who own the party. No different than any other corporation.

But, it means we are always left thinking why does government just keep getting bigger, taxes worse, and the culture more libertine? Why do we keep getting "tricked" into wars and vaccines? Well, b/c the DNC and GOP are 100% aligned on those things and we don't have representatives beyond the local level in some places. And if those local candidates do try to move up the ladder, they get the McConnell treatment: defunded, slandered in the media as low quality candidates, held off committees, etc.

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Would love to hear P.J.’s takes on current events and the clowns in charge. His famous line “Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys” sums it up nicely. Party distinctions matter not one bit. They’re all part of the problem.

The Tucker-Greenwald interview was excellent. Both are immune to media/government pressure and are quick to point out hypocrisy where it clearly exists. P. J. did the same only he was able to make you laugh out loud at the same time.

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Evil Puppet Masters; sacrificing innocent masses and portraying it as freedom and security

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Yep. He is doing to the left that they are doing.

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I think highly of Tulsi also.

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I agree

Have you seen the footage of Vivek with Pete buttegieg when they were young at a Democratic event.. then he blip- totally disappeared off the political scene

And came out of nowhere

It sure makes me wonder if he is an operative disruptor placed by the DNC… he hits every talking point…. So it makes me think he’s a ‘plant’ and not genuine - at first I was intrigued… but the more I watch him … it’s too slick for me… makes my BS detector go up. I’m not sure he’s what he claims to be at all.

And we see how these deceptive people work… this new prostitute ring being exposed… Jeffry Epstein … we have to assume these people aren’t above this…

infiltrating the republicans under false premises

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I have thought the same thing. It made me think about this story from Georgia where Landmark Communications was running Democrats on the Republican tickets.

https://www.georgiarecord.com/all-posts/2021/07/21/landmark-communications-the-republican-political-consulting-firm-in-atlanta-that-runs-democrats-as-republicans-some-with-ties-to-chinese-communist-party/

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I had not heard about this- thanks for posting!

but yes- exactly my thinking. I think this is going on in politics right now. Planted operatives. 😳🤦🏼‍♀️

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I bet Gerogia isn't the only state this happened in either.

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I agree he could easily be a plant. If so, he's a GREAT actor.

I think that's why he hasn't gained much traction - because people don't believe he is authentic.

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He’s a great speaker and pro debater.

Comments I’m reading are - Vivek really gave it to the GOP.

Uh-huh. There’s a possible motive. 🧐

Best way to discredit republicans is to get someone on the debate stage to do it.

It is Very very difficult to determine friend or foe today. And THAT is absolutely by design- so people lose the ability to think critically …and for themselves.

There’s a lot of deception everywhere today. Everyone needs to stay mentally strong today- and don’t fall for the constant DIVISION POLITICS they’re promoting.

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VERY unfortunately, it's gone past "divisive politics" and is now divisive justice, divisive medicine, divisive commerce... It's no longer just in the worlds of ideas and words. It is kinetic.

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Funny, he is so good at it. But I literally physically feels he lies. Or rather he tries to hypnotise you with % of truth and promises, yet he is cobra-izing you. Mongoose on board. We have developed our perception so much with the ¨pandemic¨. Sifting through and through all the BS! Thank you to the defunct Nazi WO for the free training.

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Agree! Usual playbook. All talk but do not expect actions following words. Things is we have sharpened our perceptions through all that elusive covid-virus BS, and we got our 6th, even maybe 7th sense, back on track. But hey, nice try! Vivek is false opposition. And best lies must include truths.

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Exactly.

Why lie? Unless you’re hiding something. You don’t end up at this event by accident - ‘he was at Harvard’, isn’t an explanation.

“Vivek Ramaswamy claims he wasn’t politically engaged in the past, yet here he is on MSNBC asking a Democratic presidential candidate questions,”

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/vivek-ramaswamy-pete-buttigieg-2003-msnbc-town-hall/?amp

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There's conflicting evidence on Vivek. But huge cudos to him for shouting out what never gets said in public debate, or even on controlled msm. We watched for a few brief wasted moments. Vivek would toss out a truth bomb, and the rest would react like children. It's a clown show with Keebler elves.

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I loved the "Cheney in 3" heels" quip. I have a feeling SNL will do something with that!

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Actually, I don't think it's just oratory - he does believe it. Must we be so jaundiced?

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I love what Vivek is saying. I would love seeing words backed up by deeds even more.

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He says the exact same things obummer said. That POS sure helped the country, didn't he?

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Valid point. Obama conned a lot of people.

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I could not understand how people were mesmerised by that POS. Could read him from day 1.

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Couldn't agree more! Now we just need to make every word of this happen. Ronna must go.

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Ronna has *got* to be some kind of deep swamp operator. I agree she must go.

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Ronna McDaniel is RINO Mitt Romney's NIECE. (Daughter of Mitt Romney's big brother.) Explains a lot.

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Wow I didn’t know that. Makes a whole lot of sense now. She was never very impressive and I guess that’s because she never really did (or does) anything significant for the party, she’s just a placeholder mouthpiece for the RINO establishment. She must have been spitting bullets when Trump was elected- she was probably more shocked than anyone. I was particularly troubled with how she wouldn’t even meet with or even acknowledge Brandon Straka from the #walkaway campaign back in 2021 - here’s a gay, liberal hairdresser from NYC who left the party, joined the MAGA movement and had a half a million followers on FB. This would have been the biggest marketing coup in the history of the Republican Party if she had acknowledged him

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Right??? It’s very telling that she wouldn’t use that to the party’s advantage!

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Ahhhh.....now I see why she beat Harmeet Dhillon. Well, Ronna can certainly has been running everything behind a heck of a lot of Republican electoral losses the last few years.

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Start with your local GOP office. We need to clean house!

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I recommend starting by attending the meetings and volunteering, e.g., at voter registration events. That way, you can get to know the people currently involved and can figure out if they actually need to be cleaned out or if they too are patriots working to the same end that you want to. Ask who they voted for in certain Republican primaries, e.g., or what they know about those who control influential state- or local-level PACs. Questions like that, or just the general conversation, will be telling.

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Great idea for those that aren't involved.

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There's some conflict in at least one REC in Florida, because people answered the call from The Precinct Project, etc., but didn't spend any time figuring out if their REC was one that needed rescuing or not, so they just want everyone else to go away. Your comment about 'we need to clean house' put me in mind of it.

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Excellent advice. I did exactly that myself. And learned that my local and state party is inexplicably being led to support Nikki Haley, even though the grass roots are firmly for Trump.

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There's a fascinating split between the grassroots/MAGA folks and the mainstreamers in the Republican Party. The Old Guard tend to be the latter, and I think some resent the 'intruders' or 'interlopers' who are suddenly showing up. The smart ones are putting the newcomers to work, registering voters, etc. We can work as individuals for any candidate, but as party officials, even at precinct level, we have to be even-handed. It can engender real conflict if at the local or state level there's too much thumb on the scale during a primary. The Old Guard often are working as individuals through their many methods, like also being lobbyists or PAC owners.

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My GOP local is a clique tighter than any HS girls group I have ever seen.

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The issue seems to be that the GOP is a private corporation, owned by people who have the same interests/alignments as the people who own the DNC. They will never act in the best interests of actual conservatives or everyday Americans b/c the people who own the GOP depend upon big government, big business, and globalization. Those dependencies also mean they are aligned with liberal cultural values. They're never going to go against the things that make them wealthy. Their unstated by consistent support of liberal ideas like big government and libertine lifestyle choices is not a bug; it's a feature.

We keep expecting the GOP to be something other than it is, but it never will be unless we stage a coup and take it back. That is basically what the Tea Party, and then Trump/MAGA has been all about: taking over the GOP b/c it fails to represent any sort of actual conservatism. It's not lost on me that there are a bunch of losers on the GOP debate stage and the guy leading them all by 40 pts isn't even there. That in itself is exposing the corruption and falsehood of our "2 party" system to anyone watching.

Good for Vivek for calling out one particularly ridiculous element of this scam we call the GOP.

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I agree with you, and either there will be one of those rare times in American history when major political parties rise and fall, ending up with something different than just R and D, or we will succeed in the insurgent takeover of the Republican Party (as the communists are working to do in the D Party), or else, I guess.

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Whenever GOP calls me for donation I say, "remove my name from your list. RNC/GOP is dead to me".

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Very well said.

Later Jay

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He was pure gold. This morning you can see the news trying to portray him as unhinged. I'm sure several people will believe that. I thought he was heroic for the things he said.

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Vivek can say things Iike that because he's suspect and unelectable. But it's still wonderful he said that!

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Plus he has "Fuck You"-money and that goes a long way, just saying.

Later Jay

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Haven’t seen anything as great as last night since trump told Hillary he would put her in jail!!!

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Oh wow that was an awesome comment by Vivek!

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Kathy, have you seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O91OrUuuYs

It is a comparison of Vivek with Obama.

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I don't care what you've got there cause I'm not suggesting you vote for Vivek. I'm saying PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT HE SAID. And give him credit for calling out the corrupt media! Maybe he'll cause the others to get more brave and say it like it is.

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He is an excellent speaker/debater. No doubt about that. He can run circles around all of them…

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But more then that, he's not afraid to spell it out. Talk of bold corrections to the system. Call out the evil. Even if he's not our guy, It makes the other candidates bolder.

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Exactly!

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Pay attention to those that are charismatic. well spoken and say all the right things. He has plagiarized Obama's speech word for word in this video. Seeing that, how can he be defended. Something is rotten here..............

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Wow. I didn’t even know there was going to be a debate, but that was a magnificent hit.

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Dangerous move calling out the Kil-Squad like that. Nice knowing you Ram.....

Later Jay

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I have read Vivak is not who he appears. I think it from Karen Brackens website.

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Follow Jeff's advice and look for evidence, not gossip and rumor - e.g., Paul, not George, Soros gives out the scholarships (Paul & Daisy Soros Foundation, that is, and Paul is long dead), and Vivek sued the WEF because he said he never was in their leadership program. Some people will reject those points as valid, but at least be familiar with them.

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Lit 'em up, didn't he? I don’t care to see him or RFK Jr in the White House, but I love hearing them both make TPTB squirm.

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The important thing about Vivek is what he FAILS to say.

Vivek has not said a damn word about millions of obvious toxxine injuries and deaths. Why? Might have something to do with his making his fortune in pharma...

Vivek must be considered a sleeper agent of Pfizer until he speaks up about those deaths.

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Great point! Much overlooked. Perhaps a point blank question posed to Vivek is in order…

🙏🏽🕊

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Absolutely!

Why does no one ever ask him?

His silence and their silence speaks volumes. But someone has to point it out for others to notice that silence. So we should all be pointing it out, all the time.

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🤔🤔🤔yep

It should be on everybody’s lips.

Thanks for bringing that up!

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Truth...👏👏👏👏👏

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Thank you for sharing that Oregon Kathy! I’ve chosen not to subject myself to these sham “debates” but that clip was pure gold and I will share it with others! Thank you!

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