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WIMomof3's avatar

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for yesterday’s comment section. πŸ‘€ Kept me entertained for over an hour stuck waiting for my plane to be de-iced.

Jeff- you might want to give readers a heads up on what they might be missing out on if they stop reading at the end of your email. Comment section almost as good as your newsletter πŸ˜‰πŸΏ

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Katie's avatar

I was just telling a friend that I LOVE reading the comment section because it's a rare time in the world of comments that people have intelligent thought, use humor, understand each other's humor, are not easily offended, and earnestly exchange and respect different thoughts....like we are all friends. And we root for each other.

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kr's avatar

Yes, and unfortunately due to this pandemic, I have been ostracized by many of my very close friends simply because I chose to be unvaccinated… So it feels good to feel like I’m talking with friends in the comments!

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InquizitiveOne's avatar

Bless you, fellow critical thinker! You are amongst friends here!

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NAB's avatar

It would be great to be able to gather together in person some day!

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Credenda's avatar

It would be fun to sign up voluntarily and initially anonymously into geographic areas so that we could come together for fun, fellowship and planning. I would love to meet CCers in my area. I have no idea how this could be done though.

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daverkb's avatar

Yes! It's so. C & C, due to the high intelligence level here, is a good place to be for a hearing of things out. Maybe on of the best Comments in the country.

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Susan's avatar

The comments are really awesome!

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Freebird's avatar

Katie - and they often share very useful information! I’m ashamed to admit that I sometimes skim a story in Jeff’s post and rush to the comments. πŸ˜‚ I don’t always agree with everyone on here, but overall, this is a thoughtful, intelligent and sometimes hilarious group.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m glad we don’t all always agree! That makes it more interesting (as long as people are respectful, which they are, here, for the vast majority).

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Credenda's avatar

Well to be honest there are only 2 people here I’d love to throttle but I have hopes they will eventually come around to team reality. We agree on most everything else.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!!! I feel the same.

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Karen's avatar

We are family

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NAB's avatar

I spend so much time in the comments of this particular Substack. It has been a refuge for me.

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CaplT's avatar

I spend TOO much time in CnC comments!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same 😬

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Same here

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Freebird's avatar

NAB, it can be a refuge, and then occasionally I look up and it’s afternoon, and I remember…there is life beyond the comments! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Can relate, haha ! Had to apologize to my husband today for getting lost in cyberspace in the comments.

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kr's avatar

Me too

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I ordered new glasses today at Walmart. I had a conversation with the assistant, she’s excited to look into substack, I mentioned this one as my favorite. She was upset because her sister got blocked on twitter for posting Bible verses and I told her I love the kindness & sharing information in the comments here, along with the actual excellent writing from Jeff. Sorry for the run on sentence!

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Have her check out β€œ

Janice - Words Beyond Me” on substack. Great biblical daily readings right here in the C&C comments.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Thanks very much! I’ll check it out myself and tell her when my glasses are ready. Appreciate it.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Greg, how kind. Thank you.

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Freebird's avatar

You’re kidding…blocked for sharing Bible verses? Even the horrible Facebook doesn’t do that. I follow Janice on there as well as here. She is our anchor!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Just read a few of her stacks, & subscribed.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Whew, the pressure is on. πŸ˜‰Thank you for this.

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AJF's avatar

Me 3

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes! Never understood people's attachment to Twitter, as it is a very rare day when the trolls don't devolve any kind of discussion into name calling and idiocy.

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JohnS's avatar

I've often said about all the substacks that 45% of what I learn comes from the comments, either directly or through related links that add additional information.

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NAB's avatar

Yes, that's why a 10 minute reading of Jeff's morning newsletter turns into a 2-hour detour :)

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CaplT's avatar

YepπŸ˜†

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

Same. Love the comments section. Usually return throughout the day to catch the full effect.

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AnitaB's avatar

The comments are like the icing on the cake!

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Copernicus's avatar

Oh, man, the comments are as good as the posts. Or at least very close. I have learned a lot from them.

And folks are so incredibly respectful! No name calling or the like. It is refreshing.

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NAB's avatar

Yes, we can have very spirited discussions even on (especially on?) verboten topics like politics and religion :)

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RunningLogic's avatar

With a few exceptions but they are rare, fortunately! I agree, Substack is so refreshing compared to any other comment section I’ve seen anywhere else! The only one that was even close was on Yahoo (!) years ago, when there was a story about a North Korean propaganda video that turned out to be fake (voice over made up by a British comedian but it looked and sounded so realistic that most people were taken in by it initially).The comments were so hilarious that I laughed so hard I cried and could barely catch my breath πŸ˜†

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Donna in MO's avatar

Long before social media there used to be a thing called ivillage that was similar to what reddit is today. My son was diagnosed with reading disabilities and ADHD in the late 90's/early 2000's and there was a group to post share and comment on information and resources. Was a great lifeline, and learned a lot from other parents and good strategies to be a better advocate and to work with him at home, but it kind of fell apart, think ivillage went under. The group moved to Yahoo groups, and somehow moderators got involved. I got kicked out as one woman kept spouting off about her boyfriends not getting along with her kids and blaming her kids afraid they were going to run men off. I told her she needed to be a mom first and quit screwing around. Got booted for not being supportive. Oh well it was good while it lasted. Hope this comment family does not get invaded by drama queens like that one did.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow that is sad, sounds like if anyone should have gotten booted, it should’ve been her!

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Donna in MO's avatar

yes, felt bad for her kids, and her rants were totally off topic in the first place. She just got on there for people to feel sorry for her.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thanks so much Copernicus! I really appreciate your thinking of me! I actually subscribed to her Sub after the Box video. I will email the reps but not sure I can make it to the Statehouse.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same exact issues and same thoughts about going with my kid. I am not working tomorrow but yes, with homeschooling it makes going there more difficult. Plus while I would love to testify, this whole thing infuriates me so much that I’m afraid I would not be able to keep my cool and be dismissed as being overly emotional and angry πŸ™„ These so called public health people messed up big time with enormous and terrible consequences for every single segment of society. I certainly DON’T want them to have even more power to make MORE stupid uninformed poorly thought out decisions in the future.

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barbara ford's avatar

Comment section gives me hope!

And that American humor and intellect is alive and well!

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Tory's avatar

Agree, especially on Jeff’s posts!

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SadieJay's avatar

Agree!! There are wickedly smart informed people on here. β™₯ I do learn much from the comments as well as from Himself.

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RandiG's avatar

I also love the comments. I’ve learned SO much from everyone!! Thank you!

I changed the way I view medical tests now, too. No more colonoscopies, mammos, or internals. πŸ‘

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Donna in MO's avatar

YES! Come for the information, the laughs, and the call to action, but stay for the comments!! Although I admit I don't have time to comment every day, I do love many of you on here, and wish we could all get together for beverages.

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Katie's avatar

Wouldn't that be something!! A C&C Happy Hour! First round on Jeff!!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes, I learn so much from commenters. And they help me keep faith for the future.πŸ˜ƒ

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Novaxforme's avatar

Me too!

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Tory's avatar

A few friends and I agree. Jeff, you CC has an entertaining synergy! Not to miss commentsβ™₯️.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Comments on Yahoo, Daily Mail and NY Post are the best... πŸ˜‰ If you want more entertainment, I will do the Pfizer guy for Monday morning when more memes are out: https://covidsteria.substack.com/

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KBH Geronimo's avatar

True that!

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SM's avatar

It was like watching an intense ping pong match...lol

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SA's avatar

This Waffle House brawl brought to you by Pfizer.

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Gabriella's avatar

🀣

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Jeff, you have outdone yourself: "Not to mention, the entire time, Walker acted like a lampoon of gay stereotypes. He was over-the-top, SUPER gay. It takes effort to act that gay. He seemed like a character who just walked off the set of La Cage aux Folles."

This is one of the funniest and most truthful things I've read in a while. Thanks for keeping hope (the pre-Obama version) alive.

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Naomi's avatar

I actually felt sorry for him because he was a ridiculous caricature of a gay man.

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Politico Phil's avatar

He's young, intelligent and rich...what's to feel sorry for. If he decides he made some wrong choices, he has plenty of opportunity to make all the changes he wants.

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Tory's avatar

Not so young as to have erased his moral compass. β€˜ not good for the people.. giggles.. but good for us. (More giggles.) uggh evil

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M2's avatar

Are you sure about the intelligent part??? Seemed pretty stupid to me.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Well, he's got enough of an IQ to play a part.

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daverkb's avatar

I agree! And Jeff showed amazing good judgment throughout this PV episode. And to do a Multiplier, this assumes that Walker was indeed a Pfizer employee. And, of course, the whole thing hinges on this being the case.

Edit: De Wife just mentioned that Malone was on Tucker about this PV story. If so, Walker's employment status at Pfize must have been confirmed. And I figure Lawyer Childers in no way would do a Multifier without adequate verification. And I am guessing, that Malone's contacts proved this out. Even so, this is an INCREDIBLE tale. Like they say, you can't make this stuff up!

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Harold Saive's avatar

PV has a great reputation in so many past episodes, they deserve a few bucks no matter what I think about the Walker event at this moment. More will come of this especially if PV is on full target.

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daverkb's avatar

I agree! Even though I was skeptical about the whole thing! But with the story firming up, it looks as though the O'Keefe people did their job right. I really had to see the employment status confirmed before I would 'buy' into anything. Now that this appears to be happening, this is super big. And where will it all go?

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LMWC's avatar

I still have my doubts about Walker, a bit too perfectly over the top, and PV is well known by the deep state now. But I do believe in PV and like you I am willing to wait on it.

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daverkb's avatar

Same here! And it is good not to bit down on every dangled hook! Waiting on developments is good and shows good judgment.

However, this thing is certainly firming up. And it's going to be very interesting as to where it all goes.

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Freebird's avatar

I’m more convinced than yesterday after reading Jeff’s take on it and seeing the latest video, but I’m still not 100% believing it. Maybe because it’s hard for me to wrap my head around the lifestyle and behavior of a person like Walker. Jeff mentioned something about Malone being a different generation than Walker and that’s where I am as well. Older generation…I wish all the woke stuff would crawl back into the closet.

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daverkb's avatar

In the same boat ... BUT! Tucker's people verified the employment and Pfizer is acting like they have a lot to hide. And Jeff must have really looked into it otherwise there would be no Multiplier. So I must figure on James O'Keefe and his people having done their homework well. Therefore ... I did my small Multiplier part! O'Keefe, like some others have said, has done a lot for us. Unlike most of the sell outs in Congress, James O'Keefe has thought and acted boldly in exposing some very bad Evil stuff.

My mom and dad were both born in the same year of 1920. Both long gone ... and neither of them would believe the world our Dear Leaders are asking us, coercing us to live in. I remember their world well enough. I remember their friends, their companions ... and all the good times they have. I remember the near absolute freedom we all had to do ordinary kid stuff back in the 1950's. And so yeah! This stuff for me is simply UNBELIEVABLE!

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CMCM's avatar

Same here. My parents would truly have been lost in the world of today. I'm glad they lived in better times.

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Susan's avatar

I am a little shocked this is real

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daverkb's avatar

I am shocked by everything. I am shocked that the hijacked governments of the collective West are waging war on all of their populations. It is also central banking, the media, the big corporations, the letter agencies that are doing all of this to us. Everything anyone can think of is being used against us, we the people who daily do the heavy lifting ... and whether it is inside or outside of the family. I am shock at the Biblical proportions of this dystopian onslaught. It's genocide in our lifetime whether the jabs or by the slow strangulation in methods applied to us by just about anything I can think of. In know you are talking mostly about Pfizer. And yeah, I was highly suspicious of the whole PV thing because Homo Boy was so outlandish as to not be believed. And so yeah! I am shocked at that too. Totally bizarro!

I am continuously amazed at how well people hold up under all this constant demonic pressure coming at us. God bless them. We must never give up, lose hope or fail to resist. Speaking of which, I better do my Multiplier right now ... before I forget.

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Mazel Lee's avatar

There were people like Glen Beck trying to inform the world way back when but everyone thought they were kooky. I specifically recall seeing his show about money that was going into forming groups that would carry out this agenda tied directly to George Soros. All that to say that the signs were there all along as this coalition was growing. It’s just that they were stealthy and no one was paying attention.

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daverkb's avatar

I was very active back then ... and the things I did not know and found out could well have placed me into the Guinness Book of World Records for the record astonishment experienced in one lifetime. And I know many, many other people who felt the same way. Unearthing the huge UN Agenda 21 Plot alone was ice, glass and mind shattering. Just the Wild Lands Project of pushing everyone off the land and into Smart Cities with little stacked shoe box abodes, and with everyone riding around on bikes on these expensive bike paths at the side of the road which no one ever uses, and/or everything within walking distance, and with little corridors connecting cities and everything else off limits ... I mean it just has to blown one's mind THAT THEY WERE WORKING LIKE BUSY LITTLE BEES DREAMING THIS UP! And all along and forgetting to tell us something. And it's now looking like We the People were never the owners of government? NEVER! Just herd animals for the one or two percent or less to push around and profit off our sweat! And that's a pretty dismal bucket of nothing!

I was at the giant Glenn Beck rally in Washington ... the one in front of the Lincoln Memorial. And I remember seeing the helicopter flying around, presumably photographing the attendance. Seeing who is there, spying on us. And so, maybe they should just change the name of Washington to Spy City and be done with it. Because they just seem to have to know EVERYTHING! I don't remember the figures of that Beck rally, but the media vastly reduced attendance figures down ... their usual trick of minimizing ... just like they did with this blast them out of the water most recent Pfizer expose. It was sometime after this event that Beck was Taken Down. And eventually pushed out of Fox. In the back of my mind I often think that Beck may have been given a talking to and another of those deals one just cannot refuse. Beck was quite subdued after that and never was quite what he was before. I notice these things. The Man, whoever or whatever he is, cannot permit competitors to rise up. And when they do, The Man always swats them down ... either permanently or pushed to the margin.

Hum! Looks like a little Poodle Doggies up there in the circle! Sweet! I once had one of them ... also a sweet like toy doggie (but with a hard head!)

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Bridget T's avatar

Also, β€œWhat is β€œqueer theory” anyway? Why is it a β€œtheory?” What IS the β€œtheory?”

Jeff has talent!

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Nita's avatar

I don’t have much experience observing super gay behavior. It looked like a cornered wild animal to me. Why get so upset if it was nothing but a lie to impress your date?

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Jeff and his wingman Eric would describe that as "super gay" behavior. I can't disagree.

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Bubblehead's avatar

I think it was more "Thooper-Dooper gay" behavior!

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Bridget T's avatar

You guys r killing me here in the comments section!πŸ˜‚

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M2's avatar

Because he knows he just lost his cushy job and maybe his life.....

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Donna in MO's avatar

Just to show you how much the gay culture has been ingrained in the youth, I dated a guy in high school (in the 80's) who, in today's parlance, would be considered 'flaming', or 'super gay'. I just thought he was fun, made me laugh, but we went on 4 dates and he never even tried to kiss me. Thought something was wrong with me. Stood me up and then never heard from him again, he didn't go to my school, we worked at the same fast food joint but he quit around the same time. My mom, noticing I was upset about being dumped, said, well. he is probably gay. (she of course had met him from when he would come to pick me up, and had him pegged from the get-go.) I 'knew' what gay was, but never occurred to me, later as I got older and wiser assumed I was part of his effort to maintain appearances - see I am not gay, I date girls! And my brother in law (before he met my sister) married a woman right after HS who turned out to be a lesbian, she left him for a woman. At least now you know people for what they are up front.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Friends with MixChelle?

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

β€œTherefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell⁠—and great was its fall.” When Jesus had finished these words, the crowds were amazed at His teaching; for He was teaching them as one having authority, and not as their scribes.

β€” Matthew 7:24-29 NASB1995

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Sadly, it appears that Jordan Walker’s house on the sand is not serving him well.

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Bridget T's avatar

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£

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CuiBono?'s avatar

Thank you Janice!πŸ™πŸ»βœοΈπŸ’—

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kr's avatar

Amen

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Tory's avatar

Thank you, Janice.

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Bobbi's avatar

I just wanted to share this little diddy with you. It came up in my memories on FB this week and friends asked me to up date it so I did. I hope it's not inappropriate.

The SARS Song by Angela Kays-Mom 1/24/2022

3rd and 4th verses added 1/25/2023

(sung to My Favorite Things from The Sound Of Music)

Bright cotton face masks that steam up your glasses,

No one can tell if you're lads or you're lasses,

Purell that makes all your hang nails sing,

This is all part of that new Covid thing.

Can't see your granny 'cuz you might infect her,

Everyone says that you have to inject her,

How can we trust this mRNA thing,

These are all fears now that Covid is king.

Chorus: When the throat hurts, when the jab stings, when the nose can't smell, I always remember what Fauci has said and wish he would go to hell!

2 plus years later and many mutations

Get your jab passports or no more vacations

Businesses shuttered all over the land

Pfizer still leads the mRNA band

Goodbye to Fauci for not being honest

When will we ever believe they won't con us

So many problems with this new vaccine

Never again will we trust a new thing

Chorus: All the questions

All the failures

All the mounting SADS

When will they ever admit to the truth

That we have just all been had

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Dana Hope's avatar

Pure gold!

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Julie's avatar

You should record that!! So many emotions --πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜±πŸ˜ πŸ˜’πŸ˜”

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Bobbi's avatar

Someone with a better voice than mine would have to sing it!

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Julie's avatar

I actually do a pretty good Julie Andrews impression. πŸ˜‰

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Peace's avatar

And your name is just right for a Julie Andrews impression:)

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Jacquie's avatar

Far from inappropriate. It pure gold and right on 🎯! Totally can see Babylon Bee singing this!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Oh, that’s good 😊

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Jeff - I donated to PV while listening to the Twitter spaces chat on Wednesday night. Kim Dotcom was matching donations. But will donate again because you asked and it’s for an EXTREMELY worthwhile cause!

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Leslie Murphree's avatar

I donated as well. WELL DONE Project Veritas One of the best/worst things I’ve seen.

More of this please. β™₯οΈπŸ€πŸ’™οΏΌ

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Annie's avatar

I will be donating too. πŸ™‚

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Roger Beal's avatar

You can set up regular periodic donations to PV ... and you should, as they do the job the MSM and Congress were hired to do.

We're stuck with paying Congressional salaries, but one can donate the TV set to a thrift store, and use the Dish antenna as oversize skeet. The monies saved thereby go to PV. That's been the business model in hor home for about five years.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I would do that since I never turn on a TV any longer. If only my husband would stop watching.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, and he refuses to admit that our 30+ years of going to rock concerts (he refuses to wear earplugs) has damaged his hearing, so he has it on full volume and so even if I am not in the room, I still hear it. Mostly sports and South Park episodes and such, but the commercials make me insane, although the ones on talk radio (which is my poison when I am in the car) are no better. AMAZED at how many covid spots our tax dollars are still funding.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

If I see a pharmaceutical commercial I want to throw a brick thru the TV.

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Donna in MO's avatar

yep, and the class action lawsuit ones and the lenders who prey on the desperate and stupid.

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Freebird's avatar

My husband has on Fox News or Newsmax from morning to bedtime - it drives me nuts! Thank goodness he’s usually out of the house a good part of the day and I turn it off. And it’s amazing how much these β€œso-called” conservative stations still spout the narrative. Tucker does a little honest reporting but his cackling is as obnoxious as Kamala’s!

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Donna in MO's avatar

If I am working I just shut the office door and that mutes it to a manageable white noise level, he is in sales so in and out thru the day but out of town 3 weeks out of every 10 so then I get blessed silence. Funny my son and mom are the same way, always want music or TV on all the time for 'noise', while my daughter and I both like quiet on occasion.

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LMWC's avatar

Same here.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Oversize skeet 🀣 good one!

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NAB's avatar

Kim Dotcom is an interesting character (though glad he is donating to PV). Did you see his reaction to the resignation of Jacinda Ardern? He seemed quite emotional about it. Strange.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Emotional, as in 'sad?' I was a bit emotional, too - happy for New Zealanders, even if the person who follows is a clone. I hope they wake up soon.

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NAB's avatar

Yes. Sad. Melancholic. Disappointed. People pointed out that Dotcom is fighting extradition to the US and he lives in NZ so might just be saying politically expedient things. Who knows?

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

He probably knows the next guy will be worse!

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I had heard of him, but never heard him speak until Wednesday night. That's odd why he would be emotional about it considering she's a dictator. Do you have a link?

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space's avatar

Yes, I saw too and thought that was unusual.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I've been watching him a long time (some qanon stuff)... he breaks some cool news nuggets.

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NAB's avatar

He presents, on Twitter at least, as a sort of strange guy. I still find him interesting. It appears he is mega rich.

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Iron Horsey's avatar

Yes, bypassing licensing can make you mega wealthy. See also: Communist China.

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Natalie's avatar

Who exactly is Kim Dotcom? I've seen his comments referred to now and then, but why is he influential?

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NAB's avatar

I'd say mostly as a social media influencer, Natalie. I'm not sure what his background is (you can find him on Twitter). He presents as someone of insider knowledge and wealth (at least to me). He is also cynical and anti-American (as in anti-US Government). I'm sure there's a story there, I just don't know it off-hand.

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Natalie's avatar

Thank you, NAB.

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Iron Horsey's avatar

It's just that Kim is so fond of horses. 😍

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Thank God you don’t think he’s so fond of Putin or we’d be off to the races againπŸ˜‚

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kr's avatar

I’m getting ready to donate too!!!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Kathy Hochul won't rehire unvaccinated healthcare workers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK1W89Y8pbg

Isn’t a 4x vaxxed nurse more likely to give you C19 than an pureblood nurse?

And the reporter β€œwhat if they’re wearing masks”. More un-science (masks don’t stop nanoscale virus). Seems New York wants to stay in the Dark Ages.

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NAB's avatar

Well, certainly Hochul wants to stay there as long as there is enough Botox around to keep her eyebrows pinned to her forehead. My goodness. I have several friends who left nursing because of the shot mandate - decades of experience just gone from the health care setting and this crone of a Governor couldn't care less. Her refusal is absolutely vindictive in nature. All she is interested in is her subjects bowing the knee. Please, LORD, deliver us from the likes of Kathy Hochul.

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SJacob1957's avatar

I live in NY. She is a terrible governor! NYS assemblyman Dinowitz has introduced a COVID mandate for K-12 schools into NYS legislature (A2178). If you live in New York contact members of the assembly and voice your opposition!

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Legallady4's avatar

i left ny because of this tyrannical sex. She is a witch. what’s with these women?

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SJacob1957's avatar

We are on our way out! One year to retirement!

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NAB's avatar

Mind if I ask where you are heading?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Let me guess. LOL

Really tho, it's a shame political tyranny has got so bad.

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SJacob1957's avatar

Have a home in North Carolina

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Raphael's avatar

This might seem bizarre, but there is a group...organizations that's quite old, some speculate over 2000 years of existence and are referred to today as the female illuminate, started in Egypt hellenistic period, based in Italy today, where the richest woman not known resides, her riches dwarf the royal families and goes back centuries

Think of Hillary Clinton, Condoleezza Rice, and so on.

Just keep it in mind as you observe this fiasco we are living through.

Also there are unbeknownst to the public 33 degree female masons

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Ellen's avatar

Jim rickards mentions that woman and her family history in his money report Strategic Intelligence.

Women like hochul and jacinda etc are not smart, they are simply bossy.

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NAB's avatar

Crap. They are trying AGAIN for this? I thought that was dead in the water. I will contact my local rep but she's a flaming Dem so not much hope there. I really love where I live, I do. The Finger Lakes is a beautiful region of the state and we can get to the ADK. Darn it! Terrible governors are responsible for destroying previously great states.

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AJoy's avatar

And terrible senators as well! Hoylman has some bad bills pending as does Dinowitz and Krueger. Call write email fax then repeat!

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AJoy's avatar

Yup! Dinowitz and Hoylman have horrible bills and everyone in NY who doesn’t want to live in a slave surveillance state needs to go on nysenate.gov and nyassembly.gov and sign up so you can comment, vote NAY, get phone numbers and addresses to call write email fax these senators and assemblymembers as well as your local reps! I’ve been sending letters for two years now and calling to OPPOSE!! The Republicans usually respond but pressure needs to continue!

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Jacque's avatar

Left NY literally 3 days before the scamdemic happened. Unfortunately they probably will mandate it in NY for schools kids. Why do you think the got rid of religious objections to vaccination for school age kids? Criminal you even need an exemption

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Fla Mom's avatar

And the same issue with the military service members dismissed from service and not allowed to re-enter. Decades of expensive training and valuable knowledge and experience, gone. Almost seems like it's on purpose. /sarc

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I believe it is on purpose! They are trying to destroy us from within. They have made giant strides of success against America loving patriots. I know two current military members. One has found a way out 6 months early (legitimately) because he hates it; and he’s wanted to be in the military since birth! Another who was planning to go the long way and retire; now getting out. Both people joined under President Trump and we’re happy to do so. Now-they just want out. Another guy we know. Joined under President Trump and when faced with a decision to reclass or get out after Biden took office - he got out. He said the very day biden took control everything changed. He couldn’t even get approval to get a new lightbulb for his bathroom in the housing he was in. SIX months the bathroom stayed dark except for their flashlights until they got granted one new lightbulb! Under President Trump they always had everything they needed. Really? True story! And the liberal ideology training started too!

We are in trouble as a nation for sure.

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Politico Phil's avatar

This is exactly what's happened and it doesn't take too much thought to figure out why they are doing this. We are in a war folks - an internal war that maims, kills and destroys everything it touches without firing a shot or dropping a bomb. And few even recognize the nature of the enemy.

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Tory's avatar

Agree, my son graduated from Citadel went in before Obama… it’s got very bad with woke.. many leaving. We weaken the core… you can BET China and Russia is not. Pathetic.

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daverkb's avatar

We are in trouble. And once the best and most able are drummed out of the military, what then? And doesn't the Insanity Index of consequence soar to new levels in an overall downward spiral? God help us.

Dumbing down the military is totally perplexing as the goal seems to be to take down Russia and China. But with what? A degraded, an eviscerated military? One can perhaps see 'the internal logic', and maybe the moving parts of things from time to time. But to make SENSE of it all?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I doubt there’s any internal logic to THIS. Other things probably. The only sense I think, is common sense. If it walks and quacks like a duck -it’s a duck. Done purposefully. Not good.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Yes, they're purges. An old communist tactic.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

In my small book, it appears Biden/ Obummer are winning the β€˜defeat the military’ wars. We lost our 42 yr old decorated military/ then Reserves friend almost a year ago. Yep, in his sleep, myocarditis.

He was one of the good guys who took the jab for the country that he loved.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I can't tell you how angry it makes me. I'm retired from the Army, and in my day we taught that loyalty goes not just up the chain of command, but also down, from senior officers all the way to privates. They're your soldiers - "mission first, men always." I hope people are imprisoned for it.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you Florida mom. It helps to talk about it. And thank you for serving. Here’s part of his obit…After graduating from college, Ben joined the Army and became a member of the 101st Airborne. He served two tours in Iraq and discharged from active duty in 2009, going on to join the Army Reserves. Ben was a Senior Instructor for B Company, 3rd Battalion-414th Regiment. Currently a Staff Sargent, Ben was fully qualified and was being promoted to Sargent First Class. Ben was proud to be a member of the Army and counted those he served with as some of his closest friends

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Fla Mom's avatar

May God comfort you in your loss of this wonderful man. Our country is poorer in his absence.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I hear ya. My dad is retired navy and he is so sad by what it has turned into. When you give up your life to serve this country I can’t even imagine how hard it is to watch this happen. Thank you for serving! It matters!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That breaks my heart πŸ˜”

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you. Breaks my heart and still makes me furious.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Almost? You give them too much credit. They are all nihilists. Their only goal is to destroy all around them to fulfill their nihilistic worldview.

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Tory's avatar

Praying for our troops. They are not all the same and have to put up with this Un patriotic attitude..

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Fla Mom's avatar

The notation "/sarc" means sarcasm. I meant it. They're communists doing commie purges.

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CaplT's avatar

Doesn’t it depend on whether it is a general (bad) or regular (neutral) discharge?

Since the action to discharge has been deemed improper, the service members with a general discharge may be able to appeal the character of discharge.

File a request at their branch of the military the to change the records without a need to litigate?

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Fla Mom's avatar

They shouldn't have to, the services should be seeking them out to get them back, with full back pay, benefits, and promotions. Imho, it was an unlawful order to begin with, and the evidence now shows that there is at least no benefit, but probably harm, on balance, so the order was misguided at best. Recruiting is the worst it's been since Vietnam, so they need these trained, experienced service members. But no, commies gonna commie.

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CMCM's avatar

Exactly WHO.....I repeat, WHO elected Hochul over Lee Zeldin?

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Just a guess: software. Strategically placed.

I don’t know what the reported margin was but the software design, from what I’ve read, is for 49% : 51% so results are never so skewed as to raise questions.

Guessing that’s what happened with Newsom’s recall special election as well.

Do I have proof? Nope. Just decades of observation, questioning everything, bread crumbs, dots, and a brain. Baked not to perfection but juuuust right for the times. I notice there’s some similar in these parts. Is why I keep vistin’.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Being an introvert means more serious observation and reflection on life, me thinks. (Me being one myself.)

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Lived in a world apart from the get-go.

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CaplT's avatar

There most likely has been β€œa thumb on the scales” of voting machines even in blue states to keep up appearances.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Keeping up the appearance of blue winning, you mean?

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Emma's avatar

NYC against the rest of the state

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I doubt she will out-tyrant Cuomo, who put infected patients into the old folks homes.

But maybe she'll find a way.

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NAB's avatar

She is certainly giving it the college try!

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Katherine's avatar

Keep praying fervently for the end of the inhuman Cabal!

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Annie's avatar

I feel sadness (for their job loss) as well as pride in the unvaccinated medical professionals choice to remain unvaccinated as it shows courage and conviction. Truly awesome people. 😍Hopefully they can ride it out because in my area the entire medical complex is on the verge of breaking down. The nurses working are burned out etc. Real mess. Soon they may have no choice but to hire unvaccinated staff at a premium salary.

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Chevrus's avatar

A friend on the West Coast who is a mental health nurse told me that many left for the Catholic hospital that didn’t require the shots. The result: Those that remained had to cut their hours due to the hospital having to hire much more costly travel nurses. Not much of a win for anyone.

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Annie's avatar

I tell people if more had resisted, remained united and left instead of giving into the vaxx many of these businesses would had to close shop. My company had 40% unvaxxed rate and most were ready to walk. They never crossed the line to mandate the shots.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

You’re right. People need to dig deep for courage and stop playing their game.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Our Local west coast hospital was hiring travel nurses with a $20k bonus, and let long-time nurses suffer low salaries and added hours.

I think this was in 2020, maybe before. Now it’s millions in the hole and wonders why. Of course not allowing β€˜elective’ surgeries during covid was another blunder.

A lot of good nurses left. πŸ€” We see it plain as day ... part of the bigger plan to destroy our country.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

It seems like the hospitals were so impressed with that huge wad of Covid cash, that they thought it would sustain them for the foreseeable future. In the climate of corruption we live in, most of that money probably ended back with the politicians that approved it.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

🎯

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Annie's avatar

Part of the bigger plan to destroy our county - you nailed it πŸ’―.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Being Catholic, I’m happy to hear something good about us. Desperate evenπŸ˜₯

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NAB's avatar

Yes, our local health systems are a mess. Nurse burn out is terrible. They are having to bring agency nurses in and nurses from outlying areas. The nursing homes are the ones that are really suffering as many of the CNAs refused the shots and walked. It's not like staffing was great pre-mandate, but it is a disaster at this point. And none of this sways the Wicked Witch of Buffalo to change her stance. Instead, she's promoting programs to recruit new people into the system not recognizing that the well has run dry. And it isn't about protecting patients. She is too stupid, or craven (not sure which) to acknowledge the the most valuable employee at this point is the un-injected, health care worker with naturally-acquired immunity. It is all about the power she wields over the lives of "little people." I cannot convey my disdain for her strongly enough!

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Annie's avatar

She's evil and nasty. But all of this mayhem will cull the herd more. It affects the elderly, the people with health issues and the vaxxed staff themselves. It will take a toll on these groups especially. Chaos and culling by design.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

β€œChaos and culling by design.” This is what people have to wake up to if they want to survive what’s coming.

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TeacherLori's avatar

Same issue with Governor Inslee in the state of Washington.πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„

https://twitter.com/brandikruse/status/1615910592870776832?s=46&t=gvxBkcG69VkZc7e3_FdGjQ

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Katherine's avatar

Yes, him too! Pray for him to be fully exposed to the people of his state!

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WA Lunch Lady's avatar

πŸ’―

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Katherine's avatar

New York is working to drive out anyone with a spine, a heart, or a brain.

Perhaps so a new species can move in? The Spike Protien Mutations, and their kin?

Regardless, she will fall too one day. God always prevails in the End.

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kr's avatar

Unbelievable!! how do these people sleep at night?

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KGer's avatar

Quite easily, they have no moral compass!

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Bingo!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Nor will provincial Health Minister Dix (say that out loud) rehire fired health care workers.

PLEASE VOTE: only takes a second.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Poll/408425/Is-it-time-for-B-C-to-end-the-vaccine-mandate-for-healthcare-workers-

We need to axe Dix.

Thank you. β™₯️

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I voted! And I pray that it helps.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Me too. Thank you for your support, and your prayer. β™₯️

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Next She’ll order that a mask be put on the Statue of Liberty.

VRBAC drops jabs 1 & 2 and she turns around and doubles down.

Backwards, yes??

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Katherine's avatar

I think that's the new Protest Art Movement's Icon: Lady Liberty, chained, masked and muzzled, on her knees, with the Globalist Cabal's Executioner about to whack off her head.

The image is about right, horrifyingly....

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Lady Liberty will have a tablet that, in big letters says, bring me your D.I.E, & E.S.D. We have room for you.

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SB's avatar

Went to a Dr office this morning where shockingly masks not required. Told me they were only required in the exam room. Dr walked in with mask in hand, saw I wasn't wearing one and laid it on the desk and didn't wear it. I almost laughed. Almost felt like pre-vid. Progress! BTW, I live in liberal Woke County (i.e. Wake, where Raleigh is located), NC so a Dr office with no masks is no small feat.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

How are you even alive???

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Willing Spirit's avatar

πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ˜…

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NAB's avatar

Cue the "Hallelujah Chorus" from Handel's Messiah!

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M VARR's avatar

In case you were wondering, the gal who pulled the rip cord the instant she realized the CDC was talking about jab injuries and fled the zoom was Dr. Hayley Gans of Stanford University’s Children’s Health.

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Lot's of characters at Stanford these days...they employ Sam Bankman-Fried's(FTX) parents as professors!

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BelleTower's avatar

I just stopped by to say how lovely it is to witness all the reticence of that FDA committee! It does not excuse the panel for the blasΓ© approach it has had up until now but it is worth noting there is such a DRAMATIC shift in tone. Dare I say ... a tone approaching one of humility? Sigh ... the lady in the first video, upper left corner as the speaker acknowledges the harm that has been done ... she looks almost distraught, lots of h ad nodding and covering a portion of her face with her hand then turning off her camera. I don’t like to be a sucker but I would like to think that was a sincere bit of soul searching I witnessed there. At the risk of giving them too much credit, I believe these bozos DID NOT EXPECT the levels of harm they have inflicted... this panel is not evil ... it was only arrogant and dismissive... oyoy we will see what comes next. The correct step is a hard one and that is to STOP INJECTING THE CITIZENRY WITH POISON at least while a review is performed. Love to all my fellow CCers

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Iron Horsey's avatar

Part of it is that in Europe they won't entertain jabs for kids.

The UK is now following Denmark and eliminating the jab for most of the population. It will only be for people over 50. At least most people at that age should be able to figure out how to avoid it.

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NAB's avatar

One of the few times it would be good to follow Europe's lead (that, and transgender "medicine").

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

That and unbeknownst to most Americans, Europe has FAR MORE RESTRICTIVE laws on abortion than we do.

You could be excused from not knowing this since mainstream media has done yeoman's work hiding this from Americans.

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NAB's avatar

Excellent point (which is what made all of the comments coming out of Europe when Dobbs was overturned all the more stupid)!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, that made me angry and disgusted, too! They are so clueless and think they know so much when they don’t πŸ™„

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LMWC's avatar

I am giving to PV for the work they did in Planned Parenthood selling aborted baby parts. The fact that my tax dollars supports this abomination sickens me. I keep telling people if PP weren’t making billions, they would not be in business.

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Tory's avatar

It’s wonderful. They care

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Politico Phil's avatar

I daresay humility (perhaps) but also with a healthy side of fear and trepidation that the blame for this may blow back on them?

A comment about evil. While some people ARE evil, most are not. But this does not excuse from responsibility and accountability. The problem is not that a few are evil. The problem is that the actions of the rest results in evil. All are responsible for those results and that must be addressed.

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AJF's avatar

When the damning info came out concerning severe adverse side affects (you know, the ones they wanted hidden for 75 years?) All hell should have broken loose.

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CaplT's avatar

It did but only within the alt news teapot. The corp/gov media quashed the firestorm before it happened.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Too many sleepers will never awaken to reality as long as video games and HBO are freely available. May God have mercy and help us all.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I think that β€˜arrogant and dismissive’ bureaucrat figure is likewise evil and should be held responsible for the destruction they cause.

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Annie's avatar

They are trying to cover their butts.

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CaplT's avatar

Whether evil, negligent, careless or intentional the effect is the same: Injury and killing millions, destroying careers, causing more homelessness, profiteering.

Running over someone with your car on purpose, or accidentally running a red light and running him over, or closing your eyes while driving and running him over does the same damage. Person dead.

Accountability time.

For companies - Restitution and dissolution

For persons - prison sentence of 10 years, 20 years or life is the only difference, based on why.

Anyone who bought stock of pharma food chain between 2019 and today are complicit as profiteers. Starting with gov employees, politicians and other insiders.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I agree.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Belle, I saw a reply you posted but it seems to have disappeared. I'm copying it here because your comment is spot on. I have the same understanding of evil as you describe. That's why I always caution against trying to "understand" someone who is a true sociopath (many examples: Schwab, Soros, Gates, Fauci, Hitler and his minions, serial killers, etc etc). We can only understand someone from our own frame of reference (FOR) and we superimpose our FOR on that person expecting them to have a similar reference and thus common ground with us. There is no common ground with Satan. Evil can only be recognized and opposed as the enemy. There can be NO sympathy for evil. We have to understand the nature of this war or we will always be a day late and a dollar short. Truly evil people are not comprehensible.

"Yes … actual evil is not comprehensible to normal people. Evil is pure without any streaks of good within. It is not motivated by money or power (although it often gets its way through these things which serve to make others handy tools). The sole fuel of evil is hate. It is a difficult thing to understand for a normal person. Evil is the antithesis of good. Each from its own master. Indeed we have a lifetime to choose which of these we will serve. One or the other but never both"

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Willing Spirit's avatar

These β€˜arrogant and dismissive’ sorts bring to mind the idiotic banker guardian of the Baudelaire children in Lemony Snicket’s β€˜A Series of Unfortunate Events’. Arrogant and dismissive behavior is quite dangerous and I think it is evil as well. Just a different role from the overtly evil, but working hand in hand.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Excellent and keen observations!

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nmbr3480's avatar

"If there ever was a good company there, it’s been hollowed out and re-filled with people like Jordan Walker,.."

Look at the history of the pharma industry and you will find it's beginnings were just as evil. There has NEVER been a good pharma company. Ever.

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CitizenA's avatar

You could be talking about most of our elected officials as well.

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Politico Phil's avatar

At least for a long time.

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CMCM's avatar

Walker has less than zero achievements to crow about, so he was clearly an affirmative action diversity hire....double diversity since he is both black and gay.

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CaplT's avatar

Bourla gets his kudos strokes from WEF and Santa Klaus. He doesn’t care about the rest. It’s his happy bubble.

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Dianne Denson's avatar

Another (not PC) term for the pharma industry... drug (greed) whores

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Susan Catherine's avatar

EXCELLENT description of that whacky Jordan dude's reaction. It was disturbing seeing someone just completely lose it--I cringed through it all. ESG, Inclusion and Diversity programs have created people, victims, who live a life of excuses.

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DogsLife's avatar

I agree. He was brought to you by Affirmative Action programs, now updated to ESG and DIE. This will go on indefinitely, as long as the government uses its power to manipulate and require it.

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Junebug's avatar

Donation Made, now let's do this for the J6 Prisoners!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Excellent idea

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LuAnne's avatar

"Not to mention, the entire time, Walker acted like a lampoon of gay stereotypes. He was over-the-top, SUPER gay. It takes effort to act that gay. He seemed like a character who just walked off the set of La Cage aux Folles."

One word description: Flaming πŸ”₯

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NAB's avatar

My kids and I used to say, "fabulous!"

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Stunning and brave!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Fake President Joe Biden warned that unvaccinated Americans face β€œa winter of severe illness and death” as he urged initial doses and booster shots.

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How's that working out? Are the morgues stacking up pureblood bodies?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I still can't manage to "catch" this thing. Going on three years now. What gives?

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Natashka Nevskaya's avatar

Same here! Never caught it. Husband had it, I never isolated from him, and still I did not catch it.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Right?? I've been around people who've "tested positive," but look perfectly fine. I've been around the "vaxxed" and the "boosted" -- and nothing. Sounds the same for you, Natashka. What is wrong with us? ;)

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Anthony's avatar

I think the question is "What is right with us?"

Anyway, I'm in the same boat. Even got tested for anti-bodies. Nothing.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Agree completely, Anthony. Hence the wink. :)

Years ago, I watched a program about The Plague. Most research, if not all, up to that point had explored what it was that killed so many. This show featured somebody (forget who!) who asked the opposite question. Paraphrasing, what was it about those who survived? How, with the dead and dying all around them, did these people survive? What was it about these people that enabled them to get through this, including those who actually handled the dead?

I thought that was a superb question, and it made for a very interesting show. So yes, what is it about some of us that keeps us healthy year in and year out -- even during a "plague" year like 2020 that dragged into 2021 through 2022 and in on into 2023 where we find ourselves still talking about it and suffering from the actions forced upon the entire world?

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Anthony's avatar

Hehe, yes, I know. :)

I think another example of this was how they thought to protect planes in WWII. They kept trying to protect against what they saw on the ones that made it back to the base. Someone finally thought about the opposite, which is these planes made it back so let's protect the areas with no damage. Or something close to that.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

And to be clear -- no injections of this junk for me or the hubs -- and -- no masks. Not once. Either of us. Ever. Under π’‚π’π’š circumstances.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

That’s the spirit! It calls for noncompliance.

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Peace's avatar

Did your job require masks?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

When the elected idiot in my former home state of MA issued his mask "mandate," we were working from home, so it was not an issue on that front at first. During the summer of 2020, talk began about returning to the office. I tell the story here: https://shethinksliberty.substack.com/p/about-me

Between the masks, walking only counterclockwise, waiting outside to be called into the lobby, etc., -- all of this degrading and unlawful nonsense, I simply refused.

As things turned out, I did not have to quit. Instead, the company offered early retirement. I just qualified for the minimum package, which I took. I gave up the full retirement package, which I would have gotten had I stayed through Jun 2022. This would have included, among other things, subsidized health insurance, Medicare Part B fully paid, plus a larger payout and the year and a half's worth of income I would have earned, plus the much cheaper health insurance premiums I would have paid during that period.

On a purely professional basis, I gave up my career. I'd spent 20 years in recruiting, but I simply would not cooperate with any "policy" that would require "vaccination" as a condition of employment (and I knew that abomination was coming).

We had a very good life at that point, but I simply would not and could not be a party to such mistreatment and outright unlawfulness. 𝑰 π’”π’Šπ’Žπ’‘π’π’š 𝒓𝒆𝒇𝒖𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒅𝒐 π’Šπ’•.

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Peace's avatar

Wow! You have lived out your life passion well. It is disgusting to think of all you had to give up, as well as the hundreds of thousands of other people in your position.

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Bridget T's avatar

Good for u! You’re very healthy!

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Took the federal government/HHS a bit to put it in gear, but they’re finally running strong and have no ability to put on the brakes. Thus the phrase: β€œrun away dump truck”.

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nmbr3480's avatar

Never forget

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Anthony's avatar

If it was, there'd be chevrons and counters all over the news. Imagine the horror! We knew it was BS back then and wouldn't materialize.

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KGer's avatar

I remember. The Mayor here followed suit saying β€œwe’re paying for the unvaccinated” The same people that sell the panic, sell the pill. I hope they all eat the crow of correction as easily as they devoured their cake of congratulations! I pray I’m alive to see justice, but I won’t count on it. People injured, dead, careers ruined and the list goes on. Truly evil.

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Sweet Mama's avatar

As someone who watches real crime shows, I have to say that DeSantis might be just a little bit off on what he's asking for on child rapists. I've seen the law of unintended consequences affect the decisions these perverts make. If they are just as likely to end up executed for rape as they are if they kill their victim, the calculation then often becomes about how well they can hide the body and not have a living witness. Would much rather see them chemically castrated and under lifetime supervision. Maybe they can play a role as a Pfizer experiment, then the criminals at this company can have contained human lab rats on whom to experiment, instead of the general public. BTW, we really, really are well past using their inaccurate and damaging language for these jabs. They are NOT "vaccines", by any legitimate definition of that word, and no one should be taking them.

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Shelle's avatar

While I well understand what you mean about the word vaccines, I have a different take. By using their word when it's being discredited by their brazen disregard for safety and effectiveness that can't stay hidden forever, perhaps we can get people to step back and reevaluate all vaccines. We need to know which are safe, which are not and which people are most vulnerable (no vaccine is safe for everyone). We need to actually have control groups of unvaccinated kids in the studies, something they refuse to have. If they have discredited the word vaccine through their shameless greed, maybe the population will finally realize these are the people pushing all the "other" vaccines too. And they have shown their true colors. You can rest assured that regular vaccines are not as safe as they say and that they cut corners everywhere they could.

So that is why I go ahead and use the word they insist on.

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Sweet Mama's avatar

Good point. There's an excellent book on that topic called "Turtles All the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth", which details the approval process for all of these shots, and how we don't really have any solid idea of how much harm is caused by any of them. I first discovered how worthless the reporting and response was to vax injuries when my son was six months old and had a severe reaction to a DtP shot. They wouldn't acknowledge it, didn't report it (I didn't even know there WAS a reporting system until years later), and sure as hell didn't know how to treat him. I went to a naturopath for the immediate breathing issues, which were quickly resolved, and then years later found a non-invasive treatment protocol for his undeniable neurological issues. We were lucky - his issues were treatable and resolved, but I had a hell of a time fighting the school administration, which was pushing me to drug him. Needless to say, I stopped all vaccines after that experience, and he's generally a lot healthier than his peers.

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CMCM's avatar

I'm so glad your son got better after the DtP shot. In 1985 a friend's baby girl got it, within a week she was having multiple seizures every day, and she ended up severely neurologically damaged both physically and mentally. Now close to 40, she has been in a wheelchair her whole life because she can't control her body at all, can't talk and understands very little, needs 24/7 care. Her life was destroyed by that shot.

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Peace's avatar

CMCM - And her family got absolutely no help from the very corporation and people that did this to her, making her and her family deplete their precious resources of time, money, and emotional resources to care for her.

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CMCM's avatar

No, they got no help. However, in about 1986 there was a huge lawsuit because there were apparently a lot of damaged children, and my understanding was that the affected families eventually got big settlements. The excuse was that there were bad batches or some such. We had known them while working overseas, and then they visited us with their daughter in about 1995 when she was about 10, but her condition was obvious then and was so terribly sad to see. She was a beautiful perfect baby before the shot.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Heartbreaking anecdote. 😒

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Shelle's avatar

I'm so glad your son got better. So many kids in the same situation stay stuck there. What was the non-invasive treatment protocol you found? I'm always so interested in what helps harmed kids get better!

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Sweet Mama's avatar

This place in Tempe, AZ opened: https://www.sirriaz.com/ They were advertising that they used multiple physical therapy methods to retrain a damaged brain, so they are able to help people with autism, brain injuries from accidents, and other types of neurological damage. Yes, we are so lucky that his case was treatable. We struggled with it for awhile, because I did not want him to be forced onto these awful drugs that have damaged so many of our kids. These people were a Godsend, and by the following school year, no one ever suspected that he ever had a learning or behavior issue, which was what we were dealing with.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

It's no longer called chemical castration, it's called "puberty blockers".

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Sweet Mama's avatar

It's called chemical castration when it's performed on an adult who is well past puberty, but yeah, puberty blockers are most often just more crimes against children.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I agree re DeSantis's proposal. Made me cringe a little.

Also, agree completely that "vaccine" is absolutely the wrong word to use for this junk. I apply this to use of "pandemic," as well.

From the International Journal of Molecular Science, in this article's Conclusion, the writers say the following: "COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are actually pharmaceutical drugs, and consequently their pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics, and possibly also their pharmacogenetics, must be properly characterized [89] to provide a solid background of knowledge for their rational and targeted use, thus stopping β€œplaying dice” with these products due to the misbelief that the same vaccine at the same dose is good for everyone, and that adverse effects occur just by chance."

Yeah. Not "vaccines." Just drugs...https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/23/18/10881/htm

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Peace's avatar

I'm surprised they categorized the mRNA vaccines as "drugs" since every other vaccine is categorized as a "biologic" which allows them to not have to undergo the same safety trials as (other) drugs.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Do you mean the researchers who wrote the paper? If I understood you correctly on that point, they're saying that they 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 be treated as drugs vs. "vaccines."

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Unfortunately true. Although child abusers RICHLY DESERVE death, giving such extreme penalties prosecutors and judges will be less likely to fully charge and prosecute.

Plus, in our screwed up justice system, the death penalty usually results in at least another 20 years in jail before the execution ever happens. The delay results in everyone except the victim's relatives forgetting about the horrible crime, which results in lowering the effectiveness of the death penalty's deterrence.

It's sad that these are the unintended consequences of our society's decline.

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CaplT's avatar

Sounds like an opening offer expecting negotiation at the legislative level.

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Sweet Mama's avatar

Yes, one of the rare GOOD outcomes we get to see once in awhile is when someone is caught in the act and gets a taste of street justice. But that's a huge risk in some places, where they will prosecute people for properly defending themselves and their families. It is a terrible sign of our cultural decline.

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Shelle's avatar

These are good points!

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Connect The Dots's avatar

This is a very good pointβ€¦β€œUnintended consequences” are something it seems nobody wants to think about for anything anymore.

Ideology doesn’t take reality into account… it causes us a hell of a lot of problems.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

As one who sees the good of the death penalty properly applied, I say good reasoning there, Sweet Mama. DeSantis’ GOPe handler team needs to do more thinking; not just throw out what they think MAGA people want to hear. Really, they have very poorly conceived notions about MAGA to begin with so they’re likely to mess up a lot in their attempt to win us over.

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Anthony's avatar

I'm failing to see how chemical castration is a deterrent in this case.

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