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Karen's avatar

My unvaccinated kids are not jeopardizing those kids who are vaccinated. If their vaccines are doing their job they are offering protection along with providing a multitude of toxins to your kids health. Parental choice.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

You are 100% spot on!

I was a sheep years and years ago. I thought all the anti-vaxxers who sent their kids to school un-vaxxed were crazy and going to be the death of the rest of us vaxxed people. 🤦🏼‍♀️ The oxymoron didn’t even register that I was the moron!!

I look back with such disgust at myself for not even realizing how stupid that was. NOW it’s obvious. And I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the idiots (of which I previously was one prior to 2020) who are worried the unvaxxed will infect the ones who are vaxxed. OH MY GOSH! Maybe this is what is meant by weird science. 🤦🏼‍♀️

I’m so glad I saw through this BS the minute I heard “virus” in March 2020. I was waking up in 2015 when Trump showed up on the scene, and by March 2020 I was wide awake from minute one.

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Jeff C's avatar

As someone who has been in the vaccine war trenches since 2005 (when my son was injured) I can tell you that your thoughts are common. Most older adults think the vax schedule is just a few shots like when they grew up, they have no idea the childhood vax schedule has exploded. In their mind it's no big deal as they got the shots and were fine.

The pro-vax zealots (pharma shills) use this ignorance to their advantage by relentlessly tarring anyone with concerns as a selfish, anti-science nut. They play on people's ignorant prejudice by implying you did your part, but now these dangerous evil, antisocial people won't do their part (neglecting to mention "your part" pales in comparison to what they expect kids to get now). They play on the cowardly fears of the elderly by implying that unvaxxed (or partially vaxxed) kids are no different than disease vectors, like rats or mosquitos. It really is despicable.

However, when people actually find out how many more shots kids get today they are often shocked (as shown in this chart). People have no idea this is happening.

https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/vaccine-kohls.jpg

None of this is by accident but finally the corrupt pharma shills have overplayed their hand. When being "fully vaxxed" just meant that someone else's kid had to be treated like a pin cushion it was fine (out of sight, out of mind after all). Now that they demand adults to do it too, people are finally saying no and waking up. It's a shame this is what it took but thank God it's finally happening.

Edit: Adding to this that this is not aimed at parents who dutifully trusted their pediatrician and now have vax-injured children. God bless all of you and your kids. My ire is aimed at the smug childless, empty-nesters, and other holier-than-thou busybodies that demand other people pump their kids full of vaxxes to protect them, all egged on by Pharma's psychological manipulation. Thank goodness I serve a just God who punishes the wicked.

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NAB's avatar

I was like Sunnydaze. I first started thinking about the number of vaccines given when the chicken pox shot was introduced. I remember thinking "why do we NEED this one if it is a mild virus for kids?" The pediatrician argued at the time that if we didn't consent to the shots then we were risking our kids contracting the virus as adults and then we'd certainly feel guilty for the much more difficult disease course. The other one that really, really bothered me was the Hep B shots given to INFANTS as if they were ever going to be exposed to this blood-borne pathogen in the normal course of living. Just insane. Oh, were I to do it all again...

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

Same here - that’s why we had chicken pox parties, to make sure our kids got it in childhood. I now wish I had wondered the same about all the other non-deadly diseases we were vaccinating our kids against, like mumps and measles and whooping cough (which we got anyway when the kids were young). If we had it to do over, I’d be one of those “crazy anti-vax moms”.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Now i have two who got them and two who "agreed out" because by then everyone had the shots but mine haven't. Praying they never get them... Or shingles.

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Iron Horsey's avatar

That's no party. Had it as a young teen and the vaccine would be much preferable.

People are getting out of hand. SMH

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

I didn’t say it was fun, I said we parents made sure our kids were exposed to it while they were young so they’d develop life-long immunity. In the face of a virus that is not deadly to kids, but can be dangerous to an adult, it’s the only responsible thing to do.

People these days seem obsessed with avoiding suffering of any kind, even mild forms of it. SMH

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NAB's avatar

Horsey, with respect, the point most people are making is that we completely overwhelm young, developing immune systems with these vaccine "insults" (and I use that word as a medical term) for diseases that used to be accepted as a normal part of childhood. We worry that in our attempt to eliminate any and all human illness, we might be inviting bigger problems. Please refer to the whole Chesteron axiom about fences.

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jigsawjj's avatar

Same here. I remember at the time reviewing the vax schedule with

my son's pediatrician and said

Me: I haven't had a lot of these vaccines. Should I?

Pediatrician: Like what?

Me: Hep B

Pediatrician: What kind of work do you do?

Me: Office (software)

Pediatrician: You don't need it.

Then I let them inject it into my kid. What an idiot I was.

I trusted them: docs, cdc, nih.

Never again.

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Monterey's avatar

The first time I ever heard about the Hep B shot was in the '80s, when a relative was entering a healthcare related field. They told all the students to go get Hep B shots, since they would be in contact with patients blood, even though gloved. Knowing that, it did not make sense at all to me that newborns should receive the same vaccine. What, for all those IV drugs they'd be doing as toddlers and preschoolers??

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MKnight's avatar

I hear you. The more I research the childhood schedule, the sicker I feel. Especially the Hep B shot. That one is criminal. I have two autistic sons, and never questioned vaccines (they did not seem to have a major turning point or event, as many do), but when I learned about the aluminum in that injection they give to day-old infants, I had to start changing my opinions. It’s a hard realization. I feel like I’m still going through cycles of grief over it. Over and over.

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

Be sure to read Jeff C’s response below. Our daughter had a bad reaction to the MMR, and we realized by kindergarten she had sensory processing issues on the spectrum. However, if you are a Christian, you have access to healing through prayer. Our daughter is now 30 and doing fine. Pray for your sons!

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MKnight's avatar

I’m pretty sure we never stop praying for them, haha! Their level of disability is substantial, and I do feel the hand of God in many, many things in regards to my kids. We do the best we can (and then some) and leave the rest to God. :)

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I'm so sorry MKnight. I think about that a lot as I see the autistic children and the children with allergies and ear infections. Dr. Paul Thomas tried to advise his patients' parents about vaccines and now he's being attacked. The world has gone mad. It's satanic.

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Monterey's avatar

Interesting you should mention Dr Thomas. I just checked out from the library a book by him called The Vaccine Friendly Plan, I was wondering what that could possibly look like. Is he still in support of some vaccines? Or has he gone to the point where he doesn't like any of them? His book was written in 2016. He was still recommending some of the vaccines, but with some limits, i.e. he doesn't recommend MMR until 3 years old.

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Monterey's avatar

fwiw, i attended a biblically based retreat on healing at Hope of the Generations Church in Thomaston, Georgia some years ago, and a little 2-year-old boy that I saw running around looking very healthy and alert had been healed from autism the previous week before I came. There is hope. They are still doing those week- long retreats. beinhealth.com

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Lisa's avatar

We have the highest first day infant mortality rate of any industrialized nation. Unlike the US, many other countries do not give the hep b shot on the first day of life—the US has an outlier policy which is dangerous and absurd. Mothers are tested for hep b. The vast majority are negative yet we give all neonates a shot for a disease that is almost always transmitted by sex or tainted needles. The shot wears off in about a decade, so no long term usefulness. In sane countries, the policy is only to vaccinate if the mother is positive.

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NAB's avatar

Exactly. So stupid.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

🤗🧸

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Tory's avatar

My sons vaccinated in GA late 90's the regular MMR schedule. Being an older set of parents, we were amazed how many in our neighborhood (boys) were autistic. Some felt it was due to Vaccine. WE then moved to CT. AND the pediatrician stated we NEEDED a third MMR for my sons to go to Kindergarten and preschool. (private or public). I argued. NO. Well, I caved. It's all big business. We agree on that know.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

After I heard Robert Kennedy speak on vaccines I am convinced Autism is vaccine injury. Name one autistic 50 or 60 year old today. There aren’t any. They started adding poison to those shots in the early 90’s and now how many kids end up with autism! It’s just an “acceptable” collateral damage to big pharma. But not to the families that have to live with it 😒

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CMCM's avatar

My older brother was born in 1945,so he's now 77. Obviously he didn't get most of the modern vaccines, although I'm sure he did get the smallpox and polio ones, as did I. Our family never knew what was wrong with him, but I now believe he is somewhere on the autism spectrum, albeit a high functioning one. His odd behavior had a profound effect on our family, me in particular, but in our growing up years no one knew what his problems stemmed from...not the doctors, not my parents, no one. So vaccines did not cause his autism, yet he got it for some unknown reason. However, I'll add that in my childhood and teen years I never encountered obvious autism, although I think the severely autistic kids did exist. They seemed rare. And I had always thought of autism as the most severe version, and only learned in the last decade or so about the broad spectrum of how people could be affected. My daughter taught 5th and 6th grade for a long time, and she had a lot of autism spectrum students. It was through what she told me that I realized what had always afflicted my brother.

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Tory's avatar

Tragic.. you r correct.. I witnessed it. Yet, all my research was organic food, organic cotton, reading from day one, classical music … maybe I can look it up. 😒😢

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Gabriella's avatar

Well, I feel like I completely failed my kids when it comes to the childhood schedule. Nowhere did I hear talk about how the shots could harm, so I went along with the pediatricians and vexxed them all up. Even allowed my daughter to get the HPV one. Two of my three have allergies and asthma. One has ADHD and I suspect is high functioning autistic & has anxiety & depression. And one holds right hand somewhat closed instead of relaxed. And two had mild eczema when they were younger. One is now suffering with bipolar one. Daughter is youngest and they started recommending flu shots for her due to asthma from allergies. Naively, I went along. I am a mother who nursed all my kids for two years each. Went to La Leche League meetings. Bought organic baby food and shopped at Mrs. Gooches(now Whole Foods). I encouraged supplements. Tried to limit sweets and no soda. Never gave my son ADHD meds. And I and my husband try to avoid all meds as much as possible ourselves. It never even dawned on me the amount of shots my kids were being given and what harm they could cause. I So so wish I knew then what I know now.

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Jeff C's avatar

Bless you Gabriella, you did the best you could and no one wants parents to feel guilty about this. Believe me, my wife and I have been there.

Recognize that you were being psychologically manipulated by a evil multi-billion dollar industry that specifically uses tactics to trick parents into compliance. Most parents don't stand a chance against that. These evil companies hire psychologists and psychiatrists whose job is to manipulate people via toying with their emotions. Like I said, you did the best you could considering the circumstances.

Most importantly, know that God's grace heals all wounds. He doesn't want you to suffer in guilt but to lay your burdens at His feet. We serve a loving God who wants us to be happy and is always there for us.

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AM's avatar

AMEN Jeff C. Very well stated. Took me a long time to arrive at grace for myself. I felt very much like Gabriella, for years. But I will never willingly go along again. And the medical establishment has completely lost my trust. It's a frustrating space to sit in at times.

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Gabriella's avatar

Thank you, Jeff. Thinking back I remember signing consent forms but never being informed of risks, then after the shots were done I sometimes was given a sheet regarding the specific shot and what to watch for, but don’t remember reading severe harms. Very evil.

I will pray for God’s grace and blessings for us all.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

We as a nation have all been lied and mislead for years, we trusted them. Outright evil & greed.

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NAB's avatar

Oh, Gabriella. There are many of us with vaccine regret. Many. Convinced my oldest's Asperger's is related to childhood vax schedule. Try to forgive yourself. You, and so many of us, were misled.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I'm so sorry. You are another victim of the pharma propaganda and doctors' ignorance.

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Tory's avatar

We all wish that. We did our Best.. We know more.

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Suzanne's avatar

I often wonder about my old neighbors who have two autistic kids i saw a picture of the daughter around age one and a half and she was a smiling, happy looking little girl. When I met her at age 8, she was fully withdrawn and needed 100 per cent care. Their son fared a bit better, but will still need lifetime support. They still believe in vaccines. 😢

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Renee Sommers's avatar

They probably have the MTFR gene mutation. The number of variants determines how much of a reaction you’ll have. MTFR inhibits the bodies ability to use glutathione to detox after shots.

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Jeff C's avatar

Yup, very possible. On top of that pediatricians usually tell parents to give the infant Tylenol for after-shot pain which is the worst possible thing as it depletes glutathione. Unconscionable at every level.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

Yes and now they’re blaming Tylenol for Autism.

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Irunthis1's avatar

My naturopath calls it the mother f-er gene (I have it and suffer from poor glutathione metabolism-my Krebs cycle sucks 😂) and I feel lucky every day that I’m 54 and didn’t get all the shots the kids today get!

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All That Jazz's avatar

I'm almost 52, just found out that I have the MTHFR mutation, and feel that I narrowly escaped because if I'd been born just a few years later, I would have been bombarded with shots. By the time I had kids, my mother in law, bless her, gave me the book, How to Have a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor written by a wise pediatrician. I refused hep B for all 5 of my kids. I did allow the normal shot schedule otherwise for my oldest son up through 18 months, who at some point as a toddler began to exhibit mild Aspergers. For the other four, I researched and questioned everything!

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Suzanne's avatar

How do you find out if you have it? Can you get a lab test?

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Natalie's avatar

My daughter has NVLD. I wonder now if it was the vaccines.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

You can always test for MTHFR. There are several protocols for detoxing the body.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Heartbreaking

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Lisa P's avatar

When you say 'people don't know this is happening', I can only assume you are talking about really old people. Anyone with kids born since 1986 knows this is happening, and most of them followed the schedule without question. This would include many in their early-mid 60s. During covid, I joined a conservative women's book club. I'm one of the younger ones at 48, but we are mostly 45-60. The 2 things I noticed about this group of women: 1) shocking amount of them with kids who have autism/ADHD/allergies 2) after the revelations about the covid jabs, many of them have read literature/websites like CHD and have admitted regret about following their doctor's recommendations.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I was amazed when I found out, how many when my grandchildren were born, tried to get them to hold off, as too many to soon. I pray all the time, that they will be ok, so far, autoimmunity has shown up. This was back in 2002.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Jeff C I'm so sorry your child was injured. I am 70, so my children got very few shots, but I didn't think twice about the ones they did get. I trusted their doctors. Now I am literally afraid of doctors and intend to do everything I can to avoid hospitalization. My husband and I were suspicious and initially decided to wait a bit before getting the covid shots. The more we learned, the worse it got, so we never got them. Now I'm watching my vaccinated church friends get sick. Two diagnosed with asthma, one with worsened asthma and blood clots, one diagnosed with diabetes and almost immediately after, with pancreatic cancer, another with aggressive cancer 10+ years after remission, others who repeatedly have respiratory illnesses. One who's had repeated bouts of pneumonia for the past 14 months commented that it would have been so much worse if she'd not been jabbed. Have people totally lost critical thinking skills? I spoke out on two platforms about the insanity of giving the covid shots to babies and children and got called an idiot. It makes me so sad, but I will keep speaking out.

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SusanMc's avatar

Thank you for the chart. I’ve bookmarked/saved for fingertip finding when I need it!

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GenEarly's avatar

"It's a shame this is what it took" THE GREAT DIE OFF FROM COVID VAXXXes HAS JUST BEGUN. and THOSE DESPICABLE PARENTS COVID VAXXXing THEIR CHILDREN WILL DESERVE THEIR OWN SELF CREATED HELL.

genearly.substack.com

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I think soon here we'll be talking about the Great Die Off from the vaxx. The all-cause mortality figures are supposedly skyrocketing.

Is the worst over?

Or is the die off just picking up speed?

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OnTheJump's avatar

....and they'll STILL be insisting that no causation ties those deaths to the gene therapy - oops, I mean, "vaccine".

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I'm afraid we are about to see the COVID die-off hit WARP SPEED.

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Monterey's avatar

I'm no fan of these shots, but what are you basing your comment on, re the die off about to hit warp speed ?

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CMCM's avatar

I heard some people on the radio just today discussing the increase in all cause mortality so that info is getting out there, but it's STILL being attributed to having had covid, and they also said they thought many covid deaths had not been properly counted and that would account for the increase in numbers. No mention at all of vaccine injury as a cause. Sigh.

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OnTheJump's avatar

So clever to have created such a mechanism of death which is so easily hidden.

Difficult to prove causation, and they know it. Additionally, they have used the tools available to them so very well - money/influence, censorship, gaslighting, etc.

As you say - Sigh.

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Jeff C's avatar

One other thought as I recently had some minor outpatient surgery. As part of the pre-surgery questionnaire, I was asked, "Are you current on all your immunizations?". I laughed and told her there are no required adult immunizations so there is no such thing as being "current". She clarified that she meant up to date on covid and flu vaccines. I declined to answer the question and it was not brought up again.

It got me thinking about how the question was phrased, probably by design. There was an implicit expectation that I be "current" for this procedure. How many people would come away with the impression it was required? Many I expect, in particular those who don't question things. At a minimum they would probably feel guilty for not being "current" and more likely to accept a shot if offered.

Somebody wrote that question in that form rather than a simple, "have you had a recent covid or flu shot?" And that's assuming the info is even needed, which it wasn't for my relatively simple procedure. The amount of psychological manipulation being used at every level to manipulate people into compliance really is something else.

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N Springer's avatar

If you signed the paperwork agreeing to the use of biologics, you agreed to he administered vaccines as they are considered biologics. That’s probably why they ask. So they can jab you while you are out and not asking questions. I always assumed biologics meant something like a blood transfusion if things went way south. I admit to not fully reading every form I signed, just trusted the intake person’s brief summary. Not any more! And I wouldn’t want a blood transfusion nowadays anyway.

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Jeff C's avatar

I do read all the forms (it annoys those awaiting my signature) and would never sign a biologics authorization. Regarding transfusions I would literally write on the form, "a transfusion is only authorized in the event it is required as a life-saving act". I was not asked to sign one though for this procedure.

People need to do this with every thing they sign. When our kids go off to church camp (or anything that requires a medical authorization) we always write on the form, "Authorization is only granted in the event that neither parent can be reached at the provided phone numbers to provide authorization themselves. Furthermore, authorization is only granted for required emergency medical service and is not granted for routine treatments or services."

At a minimum it will give people pause that we are not ignorant and take this stuff very seriously.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

We should all be reading everything the doctor offices and hospitals are getting us to sign! I’ve been reading it all and 99% of the time I have refused to sign. They are putting so much wordy stuff in there that has nothing to do with consenting for treatment. I had one Dr office want me to sign away my medical information to protect the president of the United States and foreign heads of state!!!! I gave that the big middle finger. I now only sign manually at the office and wrote on the document that they do not have my permission to share any of my personal medical information with anyone except the insurance company for billing purposes only. It ticks off the front ladies but I don’t give a rats ass anymore.

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Loretta Thomas's avatar

This thread is very helpful. I had a fear but no facts that shots could be given without consent and now they hide it by calling it biologics ? Good grief, since they do not have to use carbons and typewriters the paperwork has gotten out of control

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Beware of the electronic signatures they all require now for “check in”. Nope. I only sign manually once at the office now. Read it all! Read what you are signing on their electronic early check ins now to “save time”. They are slimy deceptive evil doers. I doubt you would sign electronically anymore.

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Suzanne's avatar

I was jabbed with a Tetanus shot a couple years ago, when I crashed on my bike. I had hit my head so I was woozy but after I regained my faculties it made me so angry. They didn't know anything of my history, whether I had recently had a shot, or a reaction, nothing. They got me in the ambulance on the way to the ER! Grrrrrr.

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Jeff C's avatar

What you probably didn't know is there is no such thing as a "tetanus shot" anymore. It's either combined tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis (Tdap shot) or tetanus and diphtheria (Td shot). Probably the first one as that's what's usually kept on hand at doctor's offices and hospitals.

So even though you don't need it you got boosters against those other diseases whether you wanted it or not.

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Suzanne's avatar

"complex mixtures that are not easily characterized or identified" yikes, that says it all.

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GenEarly's avatar

Hospitals have become "Selective" Death Camps for Covid Extinguished Deaths. I KNOW I was there in Jan-Mar 2022. Remdesifir gets you into Intensive Care, Intensive Care Ventilators get you into the Morgue.

Covid VaXXXes are just the "outpatient" treatment to ths Same Destination.

BE AWARE, Say NO!!!!!

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Karen's avatar

I've heard it called "run death is near"

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IR's avatar

And there is even no good science that flu shot prevents transmission or even significantly reduces the risk of hospitalization or death. So what difference does it make?

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IR's avatar

The problem with the flu shot is even if it matches this year’s strain it will make one more susceptible to other strains the next year or can make one more susceptible to other infections ( I guess that’s what they call immune imprinting) and that’s what seem to be happening with these covid shots, people keep getting sick with different infections. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You may benefit in one aspect but there could be a downside. Actually one doctor from DeSantis panel discussed these non specific, off-target effects of the vaccines.

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Gabriella's avatar

And when did they EVER ask that information from an adult before??? Here in CA they are going to start keeping records of adult vaccines. Whatever those are!? I guess it has begun.

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Francis Keays's avatar

Adult vax are shingles and pneumonia. Covid, flu and hep are likely in that group too.

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tjsplace's avatar

I don't and will not get any of those. Almost 63 years old. Not going to be intimidated, I don't care what the droning vax informercials at the drug store say.

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Gabriella's avatar

Same. Almost 61. Never felt I needed them. I’ll deal with uncomfortable symptoms if I become infected/ill with either of them.

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Karen's avatar

My doctor finally stopped asking me about the flu, shingles and pneumonia shots. I told him don't waste our time telling me about them. "Say No to Shots"

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Jeff C's avatar

Yes, but there's a difference between vaccines being available to adults who may specifically want them versus being "current on immunizations". Some people may perform a risk/benefit analysis and determine that in their specific case the benefit of the vaccine outweighs the risk and accept it. It's their choice.

That's how it has always been for adults but there's not much money in that for pharma. That's why they are trying to change it into something like the pediatric schedule where every adult is expected to get a shot whether it makes sense or not.

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Meow4me2's avatar

Yep, I was asked about shingles, pneumonia, flu and COVID shots at my last checkup in October. Big fat no to all. I could tell when she was asking me she expected me to say no, but had to ask anyway.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

Flu and Covid aren't Vaccines. Yes I know CDC changed the definition, but that doesn't make it so. I go by the original definition.

So I am current on vaccines.

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GenEarly's avatar

Relocate Now, or Evacuate Later? The Difference between a Moving Van and a Bugging Out Refugee is Enormous.

It's Not "just" the Political Factor, but the Population Factor as well. I left "Purple" FL 8 years ago for "Red" GA. The "political colors" have shifted in both states, for better in FL and worse in GA (US Senators), But I left a FL County with almost a Million (in 2014) for a Rural, solid Red, GA County of 44,000.

It was Uprooting, but I've never looked Back except in Relief. I do wish you well, It Has Indeed Begun for Real.

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/distribution-transformer-shortage-appa-casten/639059/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Issue:%202022-12-19%20Utility%20Dive%20Newsletter%20%5Bissue:46806%5D&utm_term=Utility%20Dive

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Sounds like a good tradeoff. A really small rural southern county like you found seems like the best place for general security.

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Meow4me2's avatar

With a sellout governor and corrupt Secretary of State, security is ephemeral at best.

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IR's avatar

I heard from a nurse that sometimes in the hospital when patient is under anesthesia they may be given shots because it’s a standard order. It in no way means that they wait until the moment the person is unconscious to just give it to them, it’s just a standard thing they may do, especially if it was ordered by a physician. She said it’s extremely rare that it would happen without first asking the patient but there is a possibility. So the best thing is to always discuss and confirm ahead of time what procedures they normally do and probably have it in writing if you want to make sure nothing is given without your consent/ knowledge. I also want to mention that not all the doctors push shots. During both of my pregnancies no one ever mentioned shots like flu shot or any other ( I was not up to date for a DTaP which they now recommend every 10 years for adults), even during the season when it’s normally given.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Start looking at the simple blood work orders too! I’ve had blood work done this year and the doctor was slipping in covid testing and antibody testing without even discussing it with me at all. I had the order to take to the lab and I crossed off everything having to do with covid with a black sharpie. He’ll no! I refuse to be in their covid system. Watch your backs out there. They are coming for us in every way imaginable. It’s despicable.

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Lisa P's avatar

My anecdotal story about what I think is weird is this.

I'm healthy, 48 and don't take any regular medications. I rarely go to the doctor, except for the lady doctor. But I had a cyst on my wrist and made an appointment with a regular doctor for the 1st time in probably 10 years. After recommending me to a specialist for the cyst, the doctor asked if I needed any vaccines, and I had the same thought as you. The only reason for a healthy adult to get a vaccine is for international travel. This doctor visit was in 2014.

We have a long way to go, but seems to be at least changing direction.

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Irunthis1's avatar

SAME. Could have written that myself. Now my mom has labrynthitis (which I’ve never even heard of before but happened LESS THAN 48 hours after her Covid updated booster shot). She had to be carried to the car to go to the ER because she couldn’t walk it was so bad. It’s getting better but now MAYBE she will listen to me when I tell her to STOP ALREADY with the vaccines. Ugh. I begged her not to get any of them until I told her they were safe but she believed the CDC and not her own daughter. What a world we are living in right now.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I got a bunch of autoimmune issues after booster shots for work in 2001. Took me a few years to realize it. I was so sick I couldn’t think straight. & the irony is it was to work in an autistic classroom!

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Irunthis1's avatar

🧐. Will we ever figure out what is causing all that brain damage? What COULD it be I wonder. If only we had a federal department that looks into these sorts of things to keep us all “safe”. Oh, wait...

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RJ Rambler's avatar

🤗

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M VARR's avatar

Kid death due to a mandate flu shot.

This lawsuit was filed by Patricia Finn, Esq., on behalf of Nicole Matten, K.M.'s Mother. The Special Master in Vaccine Court, after a hearing and years of protracted litigation, determined K.M. was entitled to compensation for a school required flu vaccine death. This is one of the saddest cases we have handled at the Finn Firm.

K.M.'s Mom wants everyone to know about the death of her perfectly, healthy daughter caused by an "unavoidably unsafe" school required vaccine. The statutory death benefit is capped at $250,000 for her death.

Unjabbed will have a 100% GUARANTEED BENEFIT of no jab side effects.

People who get Covid will have a 99.96% chance of survival.

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Irunthis1's avatar

Just went and read the decision on this case. Disgusting. I wonder how many other children died from an innocent (seeming) flu shot. Probably more than we will ever know. The damage done by vaccines in this country is unconscionable. When will we finally be freed from this nefarious and completely useless medical intervention? When $$ stops being the driving force behind innovation we might actually invent something worth having. Until then we will only have things we are told we need.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

The flu vaccine is required? That is insane!

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AM's avatar

Have followed the Matten story for years - heartbreaking. IIRC, her mom recently posted on the 10th anniversary of her death. Hard to believe it's been that long.

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Lisa's avatar

I grew up in the sixties in an area swarming with kids. We all knew everything that was happening. I never knew of any kid having a severe case of the flu and certainly no child dying of it. No flu vaccine at the time. I think it is a load of BS.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

You're at Patricia Finn's firm?? Excellent!!

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M VARR's avatar

No. I heard about her case.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Ah, OK! I misunderstood. :(

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RJ Rambler's avatar

What a unique quality of thinking you possess my dear Karen. I love you!

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Scott Kinghorn's avatar

Exactly but that's how they spin it to try and shame people. Unfortunately way to many people fall for it.

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Eli's avatar

Fabulous news that more parents are now questioning all vaccines. I was hoping that might be the result of the insanity of the past few years.

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Corkey's avatar

I suspect Mitt Romney is really really dirty and they have lots of really bad stuff on this poster child for an Empty Suit. He is almost always on the wrong side of issues, standing up for evil on a regular basis while the media fawns all over him. He’s the kind of guy that shows up at a party and makes people want to leave early.

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Hairy Toddler's avatar

Sub Joe Biden for Mitt Romney and your statement is still accurate.

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Corkey's avatar

And dozens of others

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Michael Miller's avatar

Hundreds…. No, thousands!

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AM's avatar

Sick that I ever voted for him.

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Credenda's avatar

I couldn’t bring myself to vote for him. I did a write-in. Never could vote for someone who thinks he can become God.

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Natalie's avatar

I actually got his autograph when he was running for president. It's long thrown away.

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Raptor's avatar

He is a keen liar and looks conservative. IMO.

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Natalie's avatar

Listen to Tulsi Gabbard's interview of Tucker Carlson on her podcast. It's very interesting, and I think it speaks to this issue. His father worked for the government, and he lived in DC for years, really without questioning the mainstream narrative until Trump came along asking reasonable questions. When everyone freaked out that Trump was even asking questions, Tucker realized that things were not as they should be. He said congressmen and senators know that the intel agencies are spying on them and have dirt on everyone, giving them control. Wonder what they have on Romney. I can't think of any other reason he would vote so left-wing.

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charles's avatar

Whitney Webb: One Nation Under Blackmail https://youtu.be/zUFaM24K9uc

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redpilled69's avatar

I was just about to comment that if we wanted to clean house in DC, all we would need is the list of Epstein's clients.... then I clicked on the youtube link.

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Natalie's avatar

Thank you!

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Meow4me2's avatar

He was a democrat previously and only switched to Republican when he felt it gave him an advantage. He’s still a democrat at heart.

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charles's avatar

I looked that up and technically one could argue that he became a Democrat because he was undeclared when he voted for Paul Tsongas in 1992

Other than that, there is nobody more Republican than Mitt Romney. His father was the Republican governor of Michigan. Mitt was the Republican governor of Massachusetts, and of course a Republican Senator and Presidential nominee. Rona Romney McDaniel, the current Chair of the RNC, is his niece.

Suggesting that Romney is not a true Republican is only the No True Scotsman Fallacy.

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Martha's avatar

And I'm sure Romney is all in when it comes to the Omnibus Bill. Emerald Robinson's piece:

https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/the-gops-crack-up-is-finally-here

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

...and leaves an oil slick in his wake.

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Corkey's avatar

Sort of like a Slug/Snail only greasier

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Willing Spirit's avatar

😂🤣🤮

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charles's avatar

He has his fingerprints all over the Ukraine.

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whyrikkfre's avatar

No kidding...

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Roger Beal's avatar

And his offshore bank account.

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Iron Horsey's avatar

Yes, there is much going on with government officials plaything themselves through programs and Romney made the list.

The Biden Crime Family was an entity in itself making collections from various countries. The Burisma "job" for Hunter was different than some others. It featured a very high monthly payout for no work and has the odor of extortion. Joe Biden extorted Ukraine and bragged about it. It's right on video how he demanded the firing of the country's Attorney General equivalent who was looking into Burisma and Hunter.

The Biden Crime Family made collections through other countries including the ChiComs and worked on big deals that could have been worth a cool billion. They had to settle for tens of millions when one energy deal fell apart.

In Russia, the Biden Crime Family collected millions from a Putin-connected Moscow oligarch.

Others close to and independent of Hunter including Romney and John Kerry had aides and their kids connected to these type of operations. All of this is documented and the earliest I believe was by independent investigator Peter Schweizer.

Met Peter some years back. He's a good man who laid it all out bare in his books.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I supported him, I voted for him TWICE, I campaigned for him, I met him, I donated to him. I want a refund!

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whyrikkfre's avatar

Did you keep the receipt ;)

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Raptor's avatar

Bitsandpieces has the receipt. It was left hot and steamy on the doorstep.

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Corkey's avatar

Ask for refund

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Raptor's avatar

Mitt Romney is not an empty suit. Don't underestimate him. He is a globalist (among other things) with his own agenda. That agenda is not for the benefit of America or her people. IMO of course. You and I live in a very different world with different agendas and perspectives than his lot. I doubt very seriously that he will be booted from office. He may do a lot of things that conservatives hate, but he has a lot of money and power and most of all he is LDS. LDS agenda = globalist agenda.

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Corkey's avatar

Raptor,

Someone who takes an oath of office, is elected and paid by the American people he works for, yet behaves like a traitor for personal gain is not only an Empty Suit but a Criminal.

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Raptor's avatar

You really think he is incompetent?

I know this, I truly truly hope someone runs against him that is worth a bleep. Not Evan McMullin the CIA turd. But someone like who Mike Lee used to be. Something happens to them in DC. By year 3 or so, they become thieves and liars. Good liars.

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Meow4me2's avatar

So what’s that tell you? Is DC the real problem? And what do we do about it?

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John Bugni's avatar

If "Q" has has his/their way they will all get booted office.

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Raptor's avatar

As long as the machine of the parties and the pranking around with the voting machines is allowed to continue (and there is little motivation to stop it) - and that is very charitable... then not much will change. An odd good person slips thru the cracks but they just neuter him. They take away good committees, sanction them for speaking for the rabble, impeach them. I hope when good candidates come around everyone here sings it from the high mountains and gets people to hit the streets and open our small wallets to support them. Maybe there is hope.

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

Fun fact-- Romney was the guy playing the guitar that John Belushi smashed in Animal House.

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whyrikkfre's avatar

Not really...but I can see it.

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

Lol. Dang it, I knew I'd be fact checked. It's hard to pass quality misinformation these days.

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Julie's avatar

😂😂

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Raptor's avatar

You gave it the ol' college try.

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whyrikkfre's avatar

$$$$

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And yet the GOPe made sure he was our Presidential candidate in 2012. It was never intended that he would win, of course. Same with McCain in 08. Sarah Palin didn’t know about the fix and the rigging. I still feel so badly about how she was treated.

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Yep. The jog was up when Obama said something like "The 80's called and they want their foreign policy back" in response to Romney saying Russia is a very real foe (or some such). Yet he brought out the big guns against Trump calling him a phony and a fraud. That Americans who would vote for him are dupes. No such language at all against his OPPONENT. Then of course all that has happened since.

I think Sarah Palin is how every conservative should act. She had her facts and put up her fists and charged forward. Mike Lee, the other Sen. from Utah when that troll he ran against started slandering him his response was not to call him a lying sack, but to huff and blubber and say "You sir are not entirely truthful!" Woof.

Conservatives bring our Mister Peanut folding cane to a gun fight. WHY? Because as you said, we don't want to win. We apparently want status quo where they all divvy up their increasing ill gotten pie and leave their supposed constituents and their children holding their coat begging for some of our own money.

Love you pseudonym by the way.

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AM's avatar

Regarding religious/philosophical exemptions to vaccines, here is the pattern of the march to remove them, which I fear could happen in Florida, the way it did in California and NY.

1) Locate sympathetic "journalist(s)." Watch them tout the CDC party line ad nauseam, and then toss in some anecdotal scare stories in multiple outlets which then get picked up by the national media. Argue percentages when that sounds better than actual numbers, and vice versa. 3) Amplify an outbreak of a common childhood disease (numbers are helpful here - "cases DOUBLED!!!!". 4) Identify sympathetic legislators and give them some verbiage that has worked well in other states. 5) Hold meaningless public hearings. 6) Pass the legislation removing exemptions or making them almost impossible to get.

I read that PBP article in horror this weekend. Have been following this issue for 15 years and this is the first salvo. We Floridians better get mobilized to beat this back. Thankfully we have a strong governor and Dr. Ladapo.

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Dennis Sheirs's avatar

Unfortunately my mother reads the Palm Beach Post and is brained washed by what she considers legitimate media tell her. I have been a research scientist for 30 years and she listens to me but then sides with someone in media who doesn’t understand how research operates and that most studies are bought and paid for to validate a position. This is not science it is pure propaganda.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

My parents are the same, they listen to me and read Epoch Times, yet their doctor tells them flu and vax shots are safe so they take them.

They also watch the nightly news and wonder why they are depressed. What a mixed bag, its going to be a bumpy bunch of years ahead.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

My mom calls my integrative medicine doctor a quack! She’s fully boosted of course.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Early on I sent my brother all the info on the plandemic and poison jabs. He always thanked me for the material, and then I found out he admitted to ‘trusting’ the CDC and received all the clot shots . I gave up, at that point, of trying to warn family members.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

At least you tried early on. I wasn’t very proactive. Probably wouldn’t have mattered with my branch covidian brother and his career-long emergency room nurse wife. He does whatever she says.

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YYR's avatar

A research scientists should be well versed in conflicts of interest, falsified data, gaming the peer review system and the alarming increase in retractions of late, regardless of the area of study.

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daverkb's avatar

Let's see, and in the case of churches, is it tax exempt ... or is tax immune? Tax exempt assumes the exempting of tax is a 'privilege' conferred upon a church by the grantor state. Tax immune implies that the state has no standing to tax at all, nor can the state infringe upon the church.

Vaccine exemption is again the state conferring a 'civil privilege' upon a person, a right which can always be withdrawn. Technically, an application for exemption from any department or agency of a state by a person is seen to be either an express or implicit consent to the state's dominion over the person. ONE THE OTHER HAND, in the case of the people being sovereign, the Rights of Liberty (God-given) are superior and controlling over that of the state ... and the state cannot trespass against, cannot infringe upon the what is the property a sovereign God. Again, one must have standing. There is a higher body law than Man's law. Don't believe me? Read the Declaration of Independence and read the averal of standing in the preamble where standing is established as the basis (standing) in which all else is couched.

If we were to surrender bodily sovereignty over our fleshly being to the state, and the state injects something into us which alters our genetic material, then the pharma company and/or the state has legitimate claim to owning us. Is that possible? Yes! Because that's how patent law works. It is the creator/creature distinction. The creator (large C or small c) has the right of property over his creation. This is true whether of God or a manufacturer making a product over which he hold patent rights.

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IR's avatar

There were attempts already in the past, the legislation was proposed but there were groups fighting it. It’s unconscionable that they even try to do this. This is your first right under the Constitution. If you can’t exercise freedom of religion and if something goes against your convictions but you’ll be than punished for them then what rights do you have?

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Roger Beal's avatar

What rights do you have? Just those which suit the agenda of the current Regime. Subject to change every four years, and not necessarily for the better.

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AM's avatar

I do vaguely remember a Broward county legislator making threats about changing the law. But it didn't seem to go anywhere. All they need is one measles outbreak.

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Lisa's avatar

It is very important for everyone in every state to keep an eye on these laws. In NJ, they are currently trying to pass a law automatically putting your immunization records into a database.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

“There’s a word for that, I can’t remember it right now.” 😆

I think it’s spelled “Faucism.”

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LuAnne's avatar

The covid virus is bioweapon #1 and the covid shots are bioweapon #2. Extreme beliefs, I know. I've never been a conspiracy theorist but after watching what's gone down over the last 3 years, I can't think of any other reasonable conclusion. And I can't believe we're (the world in general) is STILL talking & debating about the origins of this virus. I probably won't live long enough to see complete exposure of these crimes against humanity, if there ever is, but I find great peace & comfort knowing it's all in God's hands.

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Myriam's avatar

Conspiracy theorist just equals critical thinker. Why do you think the CIA discouraged people from questioning JFK‘s assassination? Took 60 years to come out, but there it is!

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GenEarly's avatar

Extreme to believe what Klaus S, Georgie S, and Billygoat Gates SAY OPENLY??? The Great "Suddenly" Die Off Has Just Begun. At some point ..... "when in the course of human events ....."

https://genearly.substack.com/p/i-was-a-1960s-liberal-anti-war-foe?sd=pf

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Hollis's avatar

Let me correct it for Eugene since I am a lover of freedom. "Individual choice trumps the greater good EVERY SINGLE TIME"

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RunningLogic's avatar

💯

Well said!!

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Kim's avatar

Truly, I cannot thank you enough for C&C: I’m reassured daily that I am not the crazy one in my city full of Eugenes.

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Joey g's avatar

How in gods name with all the information that we are getting people are still for these experimental injections? It doesn’t make sense?. I think what Ron DeSantis is doing in Florida will start swinging the pendulum into the right direction. The public has to see how big Pharma created a false narrative with the shots. it was originated, to stop the virus in its tracks which we all know now is not true. After seeing the Ron Johnson, hearings on December 7

I urge people to watch it. It’s on rumble. It’s compelling and scary at the same time. Both of my kids receive the injection before mandates were instituted. Now I’m very scared for them. We need more blogs like C&C and what Florida is doing, hopefully it will open up peoples eyes!

I pray for the vaccinated.

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CarO Lyn's avatar

To many people turn on msm and that is their ONLY source of information. No curiosity to research further - they are all in for whatever (lies) the msm spouts. Same condition as “my doctor told me I should get the jab.”

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Agreed. For my parents, MSM (TV, Newspaper) is the only way they have to get information. They don't have Internet/computer, so that venue doesn't work. I don't know for sure, but I assume (yes, yes) that over 90% of their friends/family are jabbed and are pro-jab. As far as I know, I'm the only one on this side of the family that is un-jabbed (I have cousins on another branch of the family tree that are like me, though). I have tried in the past to voice my opinion, but was asked by my father "are you scared of the needle" and told, half-jokingly, that I better "get the jab or I'll put you over my knee". He's 86, I'm 53. No amount of reasoning, pleading or actual evidence will convince them to think otherwise.

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tjsplace's avatar

Also, people are not aware that they may bypass Google for their internet searches. They have no clue how to do that. And, true, many senior citizens in their 80s and up are dependent on print media or mainstream TV. There is a whole world out there in non-mainstream news, podcasts, TV, etc. but most will never know we have alternative sources of good information.

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daverkb's avatar

Own the information, own the mind. Own the mind, then own the body. Own body and mind, and rule over an enslaved population.

It is the same with us, we are the only one's not taking the poison.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You shoulda heard the conversation I had with a masked, well... only when she wasn't talking and only in a small room with one person, older, 75+, woman. She would take a 3rd poke even though most everyone she knows had had C'vid again AND adverse affects and her daughter permanently had nerve damage! It was unreasonable and I hope she realized it today but she was ignorant in all seriousness. 🙈

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Joey g's avatar

They all go for the fear porn blame media

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Roger Beal's avatar

How, you ask? The death of critical thinking is the result of two generations' of government schooling. It is a feature, not a flaw.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Two generations? You're still kidding yourself! But this is the truth!

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Cyn's avatar

I don’t mean to stereotype Agent Chan, but it’s interesting don’t you think that he appears to be Chinese; is the CCP openly working against Americans in America now?!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Yes, that’s been happening for quite awhile. Look at the huge number of Chinese students in our universities.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

That is true and i live in a big university town where there are hundreds, a thousand, more? They are mostly very amicable ppl and many come to churches and Bible studies to learn English better. I guess America couldn't get to them so God sent those He has chosen to US. GOD will take care of the rest. Chinese decent is no more suspiciously evil than any other kind of humanity, obviously.

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CMCM's avatar

My son was a student at UC Davis in California in the fall of 2019. That campus is swarming with Chinese students, a great many from Wuhan. This is why covid was rampant on the campus that fall, although no one knew what it was at the time. But if you walked around the Davis campus AND city, you might think you were in China. Davis is a bike city and bikes are all over the place. The Chinese students drove their bikes like maniacs. If fact, there was recently a bike accident there which resulted in a death!

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GenEarly's avatar

Are the ChiCom Polezi the same as the Feral FIB Polezi???

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Harold Saive's avatar

🚻 Share same bathrooms

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Janet's avatar

On a frightening note, Mark Crispin Miller has a post highlighting the depths of Evil that Canada has been thrown into. The government has an activity book aimed at children (teens) telling them with easy to understand illustrations how easy and painless assisted suicide can be. It won’t hurt at all. Check out their suicide program MAID. Mentally ill can make a decision now and they are lowering the age bar. I’m so down this morning. I just can’t read anything more.

I’m trying to find a link to the original perpetrator of the activity book.

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/trudeaus-government-now-teaching?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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LuAnne's avatar

In 2021, 1 in every 30 deaths in Canada was medically assisted suicide. That's a very conservative number since many aren't recorded. There's no waiting period required, no medical or physiological exam, no age limit, no written request needed, and no medical reasons required. It's a free-for-all. Depressed? Poor? On a 1-2 yr waiting list for that pain relieving surgery? Are you a Vet with PTSD? Is your prematurely born infant better off dead? A Canadian friend of a friend, who is a handicapped VET, asked the Canadian government for financial assistance with building a handicap ramp to her home. She received a letter back asking if she would like to consider medically assisted suicide!

Glenn Beck had a Canadian nurse (I think she was a nurse) on his show a few weeks ago talking about this. This...in Canada where they mandate covid shots like Hitler would under the guise of 'saving lives!'. In other words, a Canadian can willfully die from virtually ANYTHING except from covid. Do Canadians buy this garbage??

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Is this what happens in a national healthcare system? Eliminate the expenses?

Same in US for Medicare’s comfort care program, I mean hospice program, I mean government death program.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Clearly they wanted to wipe out a lot of oldies with the scamdemic. How many were killed when they put covid positives oldies with the regular population in the retirement homes?

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Janet's avatar

So horrifying. They are deep in the culture of death. How long before anyone can decide you can’t live. Wait. A good number of people are doing that already all over the planet. Twitter has seemed to encourage death for “ certain” people. Our president hopes for it. Hell—I heard a neighbor say it.

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Monterey's avatar

Not at all surprising that a single-payer-for-medicine type country wants to put people down. I mean like the way you put a dog down--- they must figure it saves them a lot of money :-(

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Lisa Liberty's avatar

Don’t be down. As Jesus died on the cross he asked God to forgive them (those that pounded nails in his hands and feet to a cross) for they do not know what they do. We need to pray for these Eugene types. We need to ask God to help us wake them up. Remember, we are awake for a reason. It’s not by accident. So do not be down!!

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Janet's avatar

The comments to this post by MCM went off the rails very quickly so engage at your own risk and sanity.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Yes i saw this!

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Janet's avatar

Made me sick to my stomach. I have a grandkid who has talked about suicide. I’m frightened every day for him. This to me puts the evil we are experiencing in stark relief. God help us!

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Ann K.'s avatar

If you’re still pondering a name change, perhaps Coffee in Covid World.

Regardless, thanks for all you do to make the world merry and bright!

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GenEarly's avatar

Coffee in Covid Commie USSA & World

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Chip Murray's avatar

Unbelievable!! I just wrote FBI in large black letters on a piece of paper, went into the bathroom, held it up to the mirror, and it reflected CCP in large red letters! :-)

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

Do not say FBI three times while looking in the mirror!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

"As part of this, DeSantis began calling vaccines “jabs” — as if the slight temporary arm pain was more important to consider than the life-saving immunity. And he refused to talk about his own vaccination status… A byproduct of this suppression of vaccine advocacy and outright cheerleading against vaccinations has been unnecessary deaths.

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Speaking of medical misinformation, the Post says DeSantis calls them Jabs in reference to the painful prick, but he (we) call them Jabs cause they AIN'T vaccines. Lie#1=they ain't vaccines

Claiming they give 'life-saving immunity' is false. Lie#2=they don't save lives (more covid deaths occurred AFTER the Jabs came out!!!)

Also their claim of unnecessary deaths omits the vaxx death rate itself: Lie#3=The shots themselves contribute to the death count (over 35K deaths on VAERS, likely 10x that number!).

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

The fact that anyone thinks this in any way has to do with slight temporary arm pain is perplexing.

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N Springer's avatar

They’ve been calling them all jabs in UK forever as far as I know. It’s not like we just all of the sudden came up with the term. I prefer jibby jab myself.

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Lisa's avatar

The original crazy sounding official position on spike protein was that it never left the arm. Now they find it everywhere, ovaries, liver, etc. What a surprise, you inject something and it goes all through the body.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yes. Yet another monster lie from Team Covid.

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Kenny B's avatar

You gotta remember, MOST of the people who live in Palm Beach, or Broward Co. are Northern transplants. There’s a sayin that we true Southerners have..... Never open up your Alligator mouth, that your Humming bird Ass can’t cover. And that goes for the Palm Beach Post rag.

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J Boss's avatar

"See? It wasn’t just the FBI’s feverish imagination. The Oxford Institute, the Foreign Policy Research Institute, the Mercator Institute for China Studies, and the Wall Street Journal all agree. Here’s the thing: all those articles were themselves based on things anonymous INTELLIGENCE AGENTS leaked, asserting foreign interference on social media. Then, intelligence agents like Agent Chan can turn right around and deploy those same articles as “evidence,” to support the original narrative.

Round and round we go."

This isn't remotely new. Steele seeded his false stories from his dossier against Trump (and paid for by Hillary) to Yahoo News and others, FBI cherry picked a couple and added them to the FISA spying warrant against Carter Page, and used that to paper over the coup.

The entire structure of our legal and justice system is lost. The Constitution is for the dreamers, not for the courts. We don't challenge common law anymore; we fight over processes and rules and taxes. Whole thing has been off the rails since 1933 or longer.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

My favorite phrase from the Palm Beach Post article is '...life-saving immunity." Talk about misinformation.

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