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JT's avatar

Any FBI agent who takes the 5th in response to DOJ questions should be fired on the spot! If they can't answer a question for fear of incriminating themselves, they have no right being members of any law enforcement organization...IMHO!

Verve's avatar

The whole integrity scaffolding created by the constitution and the 10 Commandments started corroding in the 60s and now it's just crumbled to the ground. I guess not that anybody cares, but all this focus on Swalwell and his dastardly behavior, nobody is talking about his wife of 10 years or that he's married and has 3 children. Imagine his kids and what they're going through as well as his wife. I remember one interview where he said oh I talked to her about it and she's OK with it and forgives me. She's probably stuck and can't leave even if she wanted to. There is a story in there about the destruction of the family that needs to be told. Not even the more conservative outlets cover it.

nancy's avatar

They are in the process of divorce. Once again the kids will be affected.

Steve L's avatar

Unfortunately Nancy, it’s the consequences of being born in a leftist household. Dysfunction breeds dysfunction. The offspring of these deranged people always suffer, as the children pay for the sins of their parents.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Did somebody say "Hunter Biden"?

Steve L's avatar

Awesome example!

Lori's avatar

Booyah. Could not happen to a nicer guy. He should have thought about his kids before he sent dick pics to women including sedating and raping one. No mercy.

Susan V's avatar

Agreed. Sad for the family- hope the children see what accountability looks like and choose wisely as they grow older.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Eric Small-well was a creep when she married him. She knew he was a player and still chose to make babies! Most women know they have cheating spouses. The people who need to worry about Small- well's family are the Small-wells themselves, as their choices and actions created this tangled web that has insnared their children!

Verve's avatar

I see Lori has blocked me so I am not able to read additional comments on my response to her.

Steenroid's avatar

I agree with your date of the 1960’s as being the degradation of the Ten Commandments and the Constitution. It has been downhill since then. Obama didn’t help.

TiredCitizen's avatar

A full out internal war started in the US in the 1960's and we have never recovered from it.

Verve's avatar

And I believe it was (checks kitchen drawer for roll of tinfoil) compliments of a 3 letter agency, but of course I have no proof

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Yes, the KGB.

one of the greatest coups the Soviets were ever able to do was create the modern socialist movement in the USA starting with the anti war hippies of the 60s.

TiredCitizen's avatar

You are right, but it goes back to the early 1900’s. An excellent resource is the book ā€œThe Naked Communistā€ and Gary Allen’s ā€œNone Dare Call It Conspiracy.ā€

TiredCitizen's avatar

Two great resources to show its' beginnings go back to the early 1900's: "The Naked Communist" and "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" by Gary Allen who wrote the 2nd one.

Lori's avatar

Too bad, so not sad for Swellwell as he sends dick pics to women. If his wife was ignorant enough to marry the bastard and spread for him, she and the kids will have to suffer for it. No mercy for him. He is disgusting. She can divorce him and take him for all he has and fight that he does not see the kids with his stinking hands that reek of downtown odors.

Oh, she can also pull a Lorena Bobbitt on him. She has many choices.

Verve's avatar

I'm going to go out on a limb Lori and say that you probably don't know his wife at all and you don't know what the backstory is. If we all went around telling people that they deserve what they get and have to "suffer" for it because they're ignorant, that's a pretty harsh street that you live on. We all know that marriage is a crapshoot. Most of us do the best we can with what we have. We are not even guaranteed tomorrow.

Lori's avatar

You are perhaps correct. Maybe not just ignorant but ignorant and being a gold digger wanting to be married to a US rep with hopes of him being a future senator or Pres and not having to work who had kids quick to secure her hold on him. My bad on not considering that possibility the first time.

Sure, you go out on a limb, your neck not mine. Sticking by what I said. You sound like a libtard defending whatever the foul backstory is. Or perhaps this hits home for you and what you went through. That's your story and this is his. Either way, Swellwell is a POS and imagine what his kids may turn out like with his DNA.

My street is not harsh at all with very lovely trees, hummingbirds and gorgeous flowers. Your street is named Enablement Drive. I don't make excuses, apologies or give mercy to foul, lying, liberal bastards who plan to ruin America. But hey, if you want to, go right ahead. LOL. No thanks.

P.S. Since you feel so moved and involved with their family along with their welfare, why not send Mrs. Swellwell a parting gift for her divorce. Such a nice touch that would be and perhaps a book for the sons on how to be a good citizens and fathers.

VelvetStitching's avatar

Lori - Often times I have enjoyed your snarkt posts - and agreed with many.

But not this time.

I am NOT a libtard, and no Swalwell fan!

I am a Christian first and a Patriot American citizen 2nd. But in defense of a spouse who may or may not knowsl what an A** she married - I like to give benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. And the children..... Many celeb children (in whatever realm) suffer for parents dumb or criminal behavior. I feel pity for them - again until proven that they are an "apple that doesn't fall far from the tree..."

I tend to HOPE for the best. Just my thoughts.

Lori's avatar

Good, you feel pity for them, better you than me. And when they grow up to hate America and are entitled dysfunctional little libtards adulterated by their parents destroying our country, I don't want to hear it.

If you have the time to hope for them, go for it. I would rather send my prayers, hopes and thoughts to children at St. Judes or those that lost parents in the armed forces or by their parents being first responders. We have different priorities.

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

Maybe Lori lives in CA. Or maybe she has Hillary in mind. Otherwise, yikes.

Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

I don’t quite understand what makes a commenter so vicious.

Lori's avatar

Get some balls, you need them. What a milquetoast you are. Is that vicious enough for you or do you need a Kleenex.?

Critical Thinker's avatar

That is all generally good advice and a sound way to live a peaceful life. In this case, however, Swallowell deserves no such niceties.

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

I read an article that listed their reported assets a few months ago. There is no gold to dig there. They were using campaign funds to pay for schools and nannies. I’d say they’re already in the red with attorneys. Considering what Jeff said about the 3committees investigating, the crime the DOJ is investigating may misuse of government or campaign funds.

Lori's avatar

I was talking then, not now. They live beyond their means too so no wonder they are broke. Nannies? You don't have nannies or private schools when you are broke. The wife can at least stay home and take care of the DNA contaminated kids she and the man whore brought into the world. What a gross couple and their kids are screwed too.

Sue Rosenthal's avatar

Wow šŸ˜®šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. And true

kittynana's avatar

@Lori- maybe she deserves it but the kids don't.

Lori's avatar

His problem not mine. No mercy. He needs to live with the pain he hurt his kids. He created all of it. Karma is a bitch.

Susan V's avatar

Yep and the mother should not protect or sugarcoat their POS Dad. Rather teach her boys to be righteous, read the Bible and have integrity.

kittynana's avatar

@Lori- aren't you just a ray of pitch black today?

Lori's avatar

Nope. Just stating facts. But hey, since you and Verve are so vested in swellwell's kids, perhaps you both should adopt them so they turn out better. Food for thought.

Politico Phil's avatar

Lori, I have GOT to make sure I never miss any of your comments!

Lori's avatar

LOL, thanks Phil!

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

I read an article that listed their reported assets a few months ago. There is no gold to dig there. They were using campaign funds to pay for schools and nannies. I’d say they’re already in the red with attorneys. Considering what Jeff said about the 3committees investigating, the crime the DOJ is investigating may misuse of government or campaign funds.

SP's avatar

Verve, you are correct. I commented the same a couple 'stacks back re: Rep Gallego. These selfish politicians with uncontrollable desires and huge egos are destroying families.

Term limits are a social necessity, not that that in itself will solve lust, but perhaps it will reduce opportunity.

Verve's avatar

And Lori has now blocked me so I am unable to read additional comments on my response to her - oh well.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

Lori blocks a lot of people, apparently. Join the lucky club! ;-)

Mike Simmons's avatar

Lori is a mentally unwell troll. Better to not feed trolls.

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

I was thinking she was a troll. Something read a bit phony. I have to avoid the comments on Zerohedge because many seem like trolls. Either that or there are some really icky people on it. Probably both.

Mike Simmons's avatar

She's either a troll or is struggling with mental illness.

Apparently she's offended by DARPA for some reason. In between the last two comments I got from her before she blocked me, I offered that DARPA has introduced many dual use technologies with beneficial civilian applications:

Lori replied to your comment on & DEAR COMRADE Ā«

Friday, July 31, 2026 • C&C NEWS

I see you were a DARPA contractor for 20 years. DARPA is evil. How could you with any conscience work with or for them? Bad news.

Lori replied to your comment on • DEAR COMRADE Ā«

Friday, July 31, 2026 C&C NEWS

I won't even read your bullshit. Shove it up your distal colon. You are evil, you are DARPA and stay the fu*k away from me. Got it asshole?

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

Wow, that is not C&C etiquette. But good for Jeff for letting her be in the space.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

She's angry, count yourself lucky

Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

I do not understand what makes a commenter so vicious.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Some dude was saying he was trying to bully me to get me to commit suicide a little while ago..it's pathetic.

Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

Looks like she blocked me, too. šŸ˜€

Lori's avatar

Yup, sure did! Oh well. But not to worry, tomorrow is another day!

Mike Simmons's avatar

Are you suggesting we should feel bad for the consequences of Swalwell's dishonesty, corruption, and complete lack of integrity? He brought this on himself and he brought it on his family. Oh, boo hoo!

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Bingo! Now the Dem's in Alameda County, California get a full on Socialist again! I say again because they once voted in a DEI - Soros backed Attorney General, Pamala Price! Eventually after a failure to prosecute crimes by people who looked like her, and rampant auto theft, catalytic converter theft, smash and grab jewelry and gun store thefts (several at the point of a gun), all usually hitting hardest on the middle class and working poor, the people finally got fed up with her revolving door for criminals and recalled her!

I refused to vote as I was so horribly spammed by both the Democrat and the DSA candidate, that I decided none represent my views and both spoke about "fighting Trump" and "affordable housing" which in California speak is higher taxes for me and free things for illegal aliens and those who vote Democrat!

Pass the popcorn. The Democrats brought this on themselves!

Matt's avatar

They can't hate him enough

Mayor's avatar

It’s either the 5th, or ā€œI can’t recall.ā€

JT's avatar

Yup...worked for HRC

Freedom Fox's avatar

I dunno, I think it should become Standard Operating Procedure for any and all answers to questions from congress/police be met with the 5th. Dems use it ALL the time. None more blatant than Lois Lerner's IRS lawfare against conservative nonprofits. The Peter Navarro's, Steve Bannon's, even the Mike Flynn's with FBI interviews. Any and every single R who was charged, tried, even convicted for contempt of congress for not testifying should've showed up and taken the 5th. There is no downside. That is why D's do it with impunity. R's are stuck on stupid thinking they have to make their case when anything they say WILL be used against them, and ignoring the subpoena's results in contempt charges, conviction.

And if there is a way for contempt of congress charges to be leveled on those who take the Fifth then why won't *this* congress file them?

And for what it's worth, this video of a law professor and police investigator explaining why you NEVER talk to the police (or any investigator) applies to ALL of us. Especially in this age:

Don't Talk to the Police

Regent University School of Law, March 20, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

Anything you say can and will be used against you. Hate to see D's use it as they do, but they are being very smart. We should be at least as smart.

Steve Stevens's avatar

I seen that video years ago. It should be shown to every high school student in the country.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Agreed. Instead we get ā€œOfficer Friendlyā€ visits in grade school trying to convince us they are our friends. Who take an oath to the Constitution.

As we saw during Scamdemic, see in our streets and overseas, the oath most LEO take is to their paycheck.

Prior to 2020 how many LEO saw themselves arresting people for not wearing marks, even inside banks?!?! Or not taking injections of experimental biotech? Or ā€œmisgendering?!?!ā€

They enforce the laws the person who signs their paycheck tells them to enforce. The oath to the Constitution? Whose interpretation of it? Their own plain language interpretation? Their Sergeant's? Captain's? Municipal judge's? District judge's? Four or Five SCOTUS justice's? Whose interpretation?

The interpretation of the Constitution of who signs their paycheck, that’s whose. And if they don’t agree with it they can quit. As we saw/see most don't quit.

ā€œFriendlyā€ officers of the law are friendly if their paymasters tell them to be friendly. Or are gorilla muscle unfriendly if their paymasters tell them to be. Sad truth.

Is why watching that video should be required viewing. If not in schools then in homes. Parents showing it to their children.

BelleTower's avatar

And … Ronald Reagan! I can’t recall I can’t recall I just can’t recall

SP's avatar

Blast from the past, the ever prescient El Rushbo with Hillary Try to remember meme: https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/videos/parodies/try-to-remember/

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Accepting public employment should waive one’s right to not self-incriminate. Imagine screwing up in a private firm and the boss asks you, ā€œWhat happened?ā€ and you say, ā€œI’m not talking.ā€ How much more sacred is being in a position of public trust? Tell the truth and the whole truth or book a jail cell.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It entirely depends.

They can plead the 5th during a criminal probe because they have those rights. As far as an internal review for policy violations, etc they can't.

They don't lose their constitutional rights because they're a gov employee.

Justin's avatar

They may not lose their constitutional rights as a government employee, BUT pleading the 5th destroys any credibility and trust that they may have had.

David Nelson's avatar

In any case there is no constitutional right to a government job.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

There are protections which exist for employees, however. I am reminded of a few years ago when the mandates were in full swing that people said "You don't have a right to work there".

Pleading the 5th during a contested interview that is not internal doesn't violate that.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It's a normal part of criminal investigations. Trump pled the 5th like 400 times.

Constitution applies to us all.

Justin's avatar

And for that he lost any credibility or trust that he may have had with many people too. As anyone who pleads the 5th does. It's a tacit admission of guilt.

DaveL's avatar

It’s not a tacit admission of guilt, sorry.

Justin's avatar

It is to me and many others, and even some judges, as Jeff mentioned in this article. Sorry.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

It's not a great look, but if we're not proven guilty in court, we're assumed innocent. 5A is an extension of our 4A civil nunya right, as in "You can't fish in my pond without my permission."

We should draw distinctions between two very different defendants and two very different investigations. An FBI agent is a govt employee. He should be required to report the truth about what he did in his role as a govt official. If he won't, it's perfectly fair to assume he abused his office and betrayed the public trust.

That was not Trump's case. He took the 5th when prosecutors were fishing in the pond he owned as a civilian. They wanted evidence to nail him in 1990 divorce proceedings and under 2022 civil fraud charges. Although prosecutors lived to smear him as president, neither was related to his role as president.

Justin's avatar

Thanks for clarifying that, and yes I was referring to government employees.

They have little to no excuse to plead the 5th, unless they want to appear guilty.

Regarding Trump's example, he was justified to plead the 5th, BUT it still reduced his credibility and alleged innocence by doing so.

Even if pleading the 5th might not make anyone appear guilty, it might remove or negate any so called "reasonable doubt" that might be claimed.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Being dragged in front of congress isn't an internal review or probe-it's in a lot of cases a witch hunt.

If I got dragged in front of congress I would plead the 5th or just be an absolute jerk back.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Not really. Trump's pled the 5th hundreds of times. It's a smart move in some cases.

Jeff, being a lawyer, would have a better answer than me.

Erin Montgomery's avatar

Pleading the 5th - makes you guilty in my mind.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

That would mean you violate your own Constitutional right and declare yourself unfit to serve on a jury. Say it ain't so.

Justin's avatar

Every time I went through jury selection, they never asked anyone about their opinion on pleading the 5th, so it was a non-issue for being selected.

I was still selected, even though some would say that I shouldn't have been.

No doubt that question is asked in some jury selections, but not all.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

If you shouldn’t have been, you were certainly not the first.

Seems a defendant would refuse to testify rather than take the stand AND the 5th. Maybe a witness could take the stand and the 5th on certain questions. Maybe I’m lucky to have no experience with such things.

Robird's avatar

Thanks, great information to share. I was puzzled how a Federal employee doing their job could invoke a Fifth Amendment claim.

So it would seem they had some awareness that their activity could be illegal at the time the search was conducted.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Could be justified, could not be. I didn't really read into it. Might be fireable if it's an internal investigation. If they're dirty cops they should be fired and charged.

The rule is called "Garrity" and there's a court case about it, I believe Garrity v US.

Dee Garrison's avatar

And just like the military, shouldn’t they have refused the illegal order?

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

refresh my memory, what illegal order?

Robird's avatar

I would think so. Perhaps that was never a consideration?

Steelhands's avatar

Members of the military give up constitutional rights and agree to justice via the UCMJ.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

kind of but also not at all-you don't give up the right to not self incriminate.

Your command can't force you to cooperate with a probe that is aimed at gathering evidence against you.

Steve Stevens's avatar

That’s one reason why it’s not in people’s interest to join the military.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It's in everyone's best interests.

We need more good people in government, not less.

MnmMom's avatar

Except when it is a ā€œplandemicā€ and you’re at being forced to take jabs ā€œfor the greater goodā€.

Tim Hartin's avatar

I don’t see how you can continue as a law enforcement officer if you have a good faith belief that you are a criminal. So, yeah, an FBI agent who leases the Fifth should be, at a minimum, suspended without pay.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

They don't lose their constitutional rights because they're an FBI agent.

Being forced to testify in front of congress is not an internal probe.

If it was an internal FBI investigation they would have to cooperate but not in front of congress for a dog and pony show.

Tim Hartin's avatar

You dont have a Constitutional right to be a law enforcement officer.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

You don't have the right to force someone to testify against themselves especially when holding their jobs over them. That's forcing someone to testify.

I'd highly suggest looking up Garrity vs US.

They cannot be forced to testify in a manner which might incriminate themselves.

David Eldon Wood's avatar

Any government official who takes the 5th in regard to their official duties should not only be fired on the spot, but should be investigated for possible treason for violating their oath of office.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

That's absolutely false and wrong.

People don't lose their rights because they work for the gov.

Sam's avatar

Excellent point. Performing your job should not result in breaking the law - especially for someone sworn to uphold the law.

Leo's avatar

The most serious example of "taking the 5th" is the nation wide installation of the Flock cameras and the data centers, funded by our government. Why is such total surveillance of citizens desired? Why is it necessary to "pre-investigate" everyone? What is in our future?

laura-ann Knox's avatar

I totally heard that Thomas More quote in Paul Scofield's voice

Lori's avatar

or fired on with bullets on the spot. I take this choice please.

David Roberts's avatar

IIRC, anyone involved in those raids has already been fired. Seems like they’re just hauling them back in for questioning. I could be wrong though.

Matt's avatar

That kind of moral and legal construct only works if democrats are in power. When Republicans are in power, the justice system swoons while the criminals make a mockery of everything. The current cast of miscreants who occupy the courts just delay, obfuscate and obstruct, and we're supposed to accept that the wheels of justice turn slowly. It's way past time for some 19th century justice. Quick trials, convictions and lots of swinging. And public shaming. These people cannot be allowed to see the light of day again, or be pardoned or even resurrected.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

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— Acts 19:18-20 LSB

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Bard Joseph's avatar

"the fundraising giant ā€œtook 40-some million dollars that came into ActBlue from foreign origins.ā€

Sounds anti semantic.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Those who complain that the two parties are the same as in a "uniparty," or that elections don't matter need to just STOP. Without Trump's win (millions of voters in 31 states) our government would absolutely have been overthrown. We came so close to losing our republic. See? Voting DOES matter.

FrankInFL's avatar

It used to be true that, as George Wallace once opined, "ain't a dime's wuth' o' difference 'tween 'em", However, the Republican Party of which he spoke no longer exists. It has been assimilated, Borg-fashion, by the MAGA Party that merely retained the old name.

The work of clearing out the old Uniparty RINOs continues apace.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I can only add that the Dems aren't the same party they used to be either. It's become a lunatic asylum with cowards who still think they run it.

FH's avatar

Mary Ann, We continue to be close to losing our republic. (Your comment had that reference as if it currently is not, am sure unintentional yet readers might think crisis is over.)

Conservative voters must overwhelm the polls in November. True the Vote is the best source for ensuring the greatest chance your vote will count.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I said "voting DOES matter." It's the only thing that does. Along with conservatives showing up in November, we also need a better educated citizen. I'm shocked that so many people can't name their congressional representative, the vice president, their senators, their governor, don't know how many branches of government are in the federal government, have not read the Declaration of Independence or Constitution. Yes, we are still close to losing our Republic, but it's a helluva lot safer now since the border is secure, we're removing illegal aliens, and so many corruption scandals have been exposed. There is not a reader of C&C who can imagine we're out of the woods yet, other than the trolls I suppose.

FrankInFL's avatar

Well, yes, voting does (or should) matter, but the only reason it does -- if it does -- is that there are an estimated 750 Million guns and 200 Billion rounds of ammunition in civilian hands in this country. If that ever becomes 'untrue', then voting will no longer matter.

FH's avatar

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Leo's avatar

Mary Ann, Where does the sudden proliferation of Flock cameras and data centers fit in to "losing our Republic?"

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Voters have to fight back against the cameras via voting and petitioning their law makers, or taking the issue to court. It all comes back on us.

Kim's avatar

Yes, check out True the Vote website, known for their 2,000 mules documentary, for August 19 interview.

FH's avatar

And so much more. A very long list.

Steve Stevens's avatar

Today’s Republican Party is more establishment/US Chamber of Commerce than MAGA. MAGA got a secure border -for now- but the price we had to pay was more corporate welfare!😔

Kim's avatar

Voting absolutely matters! So does voter ID along with paper ballots and electronic machines that cannot be manipulated! 2020 was stollen. We all saw it! Will 2026 be stollen also with all the DSA candidates swept into office? We saw LA's mayor race! We are a breath away from losing our republic. Republicans and all who value their liberty must vote and encourage as many people they know to vote also.

Toni Weisskopf's avatar

I have to wonder why MSM isn't going after WINRED, the R equivalent to ACTBLUE. Did the R's do any better protecting donors' data and doing basic checks for foreign influence? I hope they did.

Ndroid's avatar

Data Republican did a deep dive on the money behind the Democratic Party. Interesting she did not find any such foreign funding of the Republican Party. Very interesting read:

https://datarepublican.substack.com/p/apax-partners-the-money-linking-singham?r=m0dlc&utm_medium=ios

Toni Weisskopf's avatar

Good to have that reassurance. I trust Data Republican to shoot straight.

Kaycee's avatar

I got other junk mail list and I get over 40 emails a day when I have not subscribed to any of them. I have tried unsubscribing and emailing WINRED but to no avail. I have put my name on the do not mail list but zero help. I am tired of them

Jane Tracy's avatar

The same thing is happening to me. I’m getting 200 text and emails a day!!🤯🤬🤯

Kaycee's avatar

I have consulted GabAI and I think I will go back and see if there is anything further I can do. It first said to quit responding or "unsubscribing" because that just confirms that a person is active and looking at the email. I think I threw up my hands in frustration and stepped back and said whatever, and I just summarily delete them 2 times a day.

The other thing to do is change your email and quit subscribing to any political websites because they sell your data. And funny that, Gab is the only place where they explicitly state they do not sell your data, at least that I have seen and read.

J Boss's avatar

OK, I'll bite. Explain how this holds true with the RINO behavior, especially in leadership. I'll wait.

Sorry, couldn't wait. Just look at Thune and McConnell. One won't serve, the other can't. And they stay where they are to protect... what exactly? MAGA?

The centerpiece is Trump. Remove him, and RINO's are Us becomes even more blatant.

You DO realize the plan it to run out Trump's term with as little change as possible, right?

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

If you don’t vote, someone is going to vote for you with a mail in ballot at the last minute on election day and everyone will claim great turnout. Does anyone think there are not lists being readied of registered voters who dont vote but are mailed fraud ready ā€œearly ballotsā€. Then it becomes a simple matter of watching mail in ballot returns and ePollbooks data to see who didnt vote to know who you can vote for…its why ePollbooks is on the network providing real time updates to election thieves. Its not to difficult to have thousands of premarked untraceable ballots ready to be inserted into the stream between the Recorders office and the Elections office.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Question: Since it looks like the Senate won't pass the SAVE Act, what percentage of success in keeping the vote this Nov. honest do you think Trump's using the USPS bar code plan will be? And a second question: how long ago do you think the Dem's plan to get mail-in ballots through state governments was hatched? I asked my two Republican state legislators who were in office back in the fall of 2019 (months before the rest of us knew about covid) because I've thought for years that Pennsylvania legislating mail-in voting that year was not an accident. It was part of a plan to get swing states on board with mail-in voting as one way to ensure that Trump would "lose" in 2020. It's almost as if the Dems had thought through every detail of how to rig the election: lawfare, new laws regarding voting, and a very convenient "pandemic."

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

How does the USPS Bar Code system ensure the person who is supposed to get the ballot will get the ballot? It doesn't require a voter to prove their identity and sign for it. It can be voted by anyone and put back in the system. I'm not assuming there isn't widespread fraud inside USPS - one look at your local office or mail carrier will convince you it is highly infiltrated. Anyone participating in mail in balloting is either complicit or stupid or both. Any disabled people in AZ can request a mobile election board come to the location so they can vote without mail in. I'm thinking that USPS Bar Codes must be some kind of deception operation, but I don't know that for a fact. I don't think it will make a bit of a difference unless it is a deception op.

If a person gets a mail in ballot, they should bring it with them to the polls, tear it up in front of an election official and vote in person. If they simply must submit a mail in ballot they should hand carry it and turn it in at the county offices. But remember, even if they do that, they still have the problem of corrupt election workers replacing their ballot after it has passed through the completely bullshit process called signature verification and the ballot is forever separated from the envelop, the final act allowing wholesale election manipulation - anyone who thinks state and county governments and corrupt workers aren't involved is again, either complicit or stupid or both...

I can't speak for PA, but what I can tell you is that in AZ, it was 3.5 DECADES in the making to enact incremental changes in vote by mail to the point that they are now having mail in only elections at county level and below and mass mail in for every election for anyone on the early voter list since before the 2020 election after satan's queen hillary lost 2016 and they vowed they'd never again lose an election - and by they - I mean the uniparty of democrats and deeply corrupt RINOs like thune, murkowski, collins, mcconnell, tillis , etc, the scumbags who sidelined SAVE - an act of treason against the American people IMHO. Remember also they stole 4 senate seats in 2024 which would have given the republicans 58 seats to 42 seats. We've lost both senate seats in AZ to election theft, now have seditionist Mark Kelly and illegal cartel criminal ruben gallego as our Senators - nobody seems to care too much that the Cartel del Sol owns Arizona - and also owns our Governor's, AG' and SOS's seats.

That's mostly because part of the building of the election theft system meant putting deeply corrupt idealogue judges in office too, to block any legitimate investigation of election theft or manipulation. As well as a deeply complicit media.

I do agree with you that they developed the plan to swing swing states and win national elections, including the Presidency, Senate, and House and then use the system in each state to win any local seat they want.. I honestly cannot tell you how Trump won 2024 although I have heard different stories about shutting down the election servers overseas in places like Serbia and Germany. We lost a lot of seats in the Senate and House through mail in theft. As Im sure you know they have multiple methods to steal an election.

I'm not sure I answered your questions?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Yes, you answered both questions and thanks! You filled in the blank spots (details) that I was missing. I don't want to abolish the Senate, but I am sure disgusted by its sedition (excellent descriptor, btw).

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

No, we cannot get rid of the Senate but it must be reformed and a lot of the criminals need to be released. How we do that when we have stolen elections is anyone's guess and every time I offer the 2A on here, people act crazy and accuse me of all the things you've already seen. The fact they blew off the SAVE ACT is proof, at least to me, that they engage in election manipulation to stay in power, they being the uniparty of democrats and RINOs.

So, I asked ChatGPT for its take on the USPS process and how it might help achieve election integrity from the Just the News article at https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/usps-finalizes-rule-requiring-states-provide-voter-lists-mail-ballot : The U.S. Postal Service has finalized a rule requiring states to provide lists of voters who receive mail-in ballots, a move that could prevent the agency from delivering ballots in states that fail to comply.

The rule, published Friday, follows an executive order signed by

President Donald Trump in March directing the USPS to impose new

requirements on mail-in voting.

Under the rule, states would have to submit voters’ names and

addresses, along with unique barcodes assigned to ballot envelopes.

GPT's answer:

The central idea is to create an auditable chain of custody for mail ballots, rather than having millions of ballot envelopes move through the postal system with relatively little standardized federal tracking.

I’m not taking a position for or against the policy or comparing political parties here; I’m describing how USPS and the administration say the system is intended to work, along with its limitations and objections raised by others.

In practical terms, the election-integrity mechanism would work something like this:

Before ballots are mailed, the state supplies USPS with the names and addresses of voters who are supposed to receive mail ballots, together with the unique Intelligent Mail barcodes assigned to their ballot envelopes.

Each ballot envelope receives a unique identifier. USPS can therefore electronically record that a particular authorized ballot envelope entered its system, where it traveled, and whether the corresponding return envelope traveled back through the system. Intelligent Mail barcodes already provide routing and tracking information; the new rule would standardize their use and associate them with the state's ballot-participation data.

The number of ballots supposedly issued can be reconciled against the number actually mailed. Postmaster General David Steiner described the purpose as making sure USPS can match the ballots a state says it is sending with the ballots actually entering the mail stream.

Anomalies become detectable and reconstructable. For example, investigators could potentially identify a ballot envelope whose barcode wasn't on the state's submitted list, an unexpected duplicate barcode, ballots entering the system that were not part of the authorized mailing, or discrepancies between the state's records and USPS records. USPS said the reporting system would provide ballot-mail information that could be available to law enforcement.

States would have to use common mail-processing standards. Official Election Mail markings, automation-compatible envelopes and serialized barcodes make ballots easier for USPS equipment to identify and track. USPS already says ballot-specific barcodes increase visibility throughout its network and help identify and expedite ballot mail.

There is an enforcement mechanism: states that don't comply with the required system could lose USPS transmission of covered federal mail ballots. That is what gives the requirement considerably more force than today's largely recommended ballot-mail practices. Reuters reports that this feature remains part of the final rule.

There is an important distinction, though. This isn't a system in which USPS determines whether a person is legally entitled to vote. The Postal Service isn't opening ballots, reading votes, checking signatures or determining party affiliation. Under the rule, it retains information from the outside of the envelope — principally the name/address and identifying barcode.

So I would describe its strongest election-integrity contribution as traceability and reconciliation.

Imagine a county reports:

100,000 mail ballots authorized → 100,000 unique identifiers assigned → 100,000 authorized envelopes entered USPS → 72,416 return envelopes entered USPS → election officials report 72,416 received.

Now there is an independent postal data trail against which the election administrator's records can be checked. If instead 103,000 outbound ballot envelopes appeared, 4,000 unidentified barcodes showed up, or the numbers at different points couldn't be reconciled, there would be a specific discrepancy capable of investigation rather than merely an allegation.

That's quite similar conceptually to an inventory-control system: every valuable item gets a serial number, and you reconcile what was authorized, what left, what moved through the system and what returned.

What it does not solve

This is important because some descriptions of the rule make it sound broader than it is. The barcode system by itself doesn't prove that the person who filled out the ballot was the voter, doesn't validate a signature, doesn't establish citizenship, and doesn't establish that the vote was legally cast. Those functions remain largely with state election systems. The March executive order says the broader administration program is intended to combine ballot-envelope identifiers with other eligibility/citizenship measures, but those are separate components.

There is also a serious countervailing concern: if a state makes an administrative or technical mistake complying with the new USPS requirements, legitimate voters' ballots could potentially be affected. States and opponents of the rule have also challenged whether USPS has the legal authority to impose these conditions on state-run elections. Those questions are presently being litigated.

And that brings us to a significant update to the article you quoted: the rule isn't currently in effect. USPS posted the final rule on August 21 and said it is scheduled for formal Federal Register publication on August 26, 2026, but a federal court injunction currently prevents implementation. USPS says it will take no action under the rule unless the injunction is lifted.

So, stripped of the politics, the potentially meaningful change here is this: for the first time USPS would possess an independent, item-by-item electronic record connecting the state's authorized mail-ballot issuance records to the physical ballot envelopes traveling through the U.S. mail. That could make certain types of discrepancies considerably easier to detect, document and investigate. It would not, by itself, demonstrate that every returned ballot was cast by an eligible voter.

I think the only way to do it is to eliminate wide scale mail in voting. Its clear it was set up to manipulate elections. You can put band aids (the USPS bar code being an example) on a sucking chest wound but the patient is still going to die.

I stand by my assertion that mail in balloting on a mass scale was done to ensure the outcome of elections could be determined, not to make it easy to vote, which is how they sold it to low information people..

Your thoughts?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

In an earlier C&C post this summer (which I can't find), Jeff made the argument that the USPS idea would work better than the SAVE Act. And then earlier this morning, I read a Substack post which of course I can't find right now regarding the USPS plan. This isn't a very "professional" opinion, but something has to be better than nothing at this point. So, thank you for the work you did on this question and for pulling up the details. I appreciate it. Btw, I agree that mail-in voting has to be eliminated. That's why I'm pretty sure Pennsylvania passed the law (months in advance of the covid mess) and was signed into law by a feckless Democrat governor. Something was afoot then and our legislature was lobbied somehow into passing it. All I ever saw about it were small articles in our local paper after it became law. And it wasn't until after the 2020 "election" that I began to connect the dot between Trump's "loss" and our state law.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Good morning C &Cers may God watch over us always ā™„ļøšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø

Karmy's avatar

Good morning Nikki!

VikingMom's avatar

I would assume that some people are complaining that nothing will actually come of the Swalwell raid/seizures because they are still waiting for something to come from the seizures of the Awan brothers' computers, Anthony Weinar's laptop, Hunter Biden's laptop, Seth Rich's cell phone/laptop...shall I go on?

Let's just say that Congressional hearings done by the House Oversight Committee have a long and storied past of being long on fiery rhetoric and woefully short on actual prosecutions! Still waiting for some action on Fast & Furious and the murder of CBP Agent Brian Terry, IRS Targeting of TEA party members, Benghazi...again, shall I go on?

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I'm hopeful, but far from confident, that he'll be charged.

John Boy West's avatar

Agreed, but Swalwell has no friends on either side of the aisle. Even honey pot Fang Fang has disappeared, so he may be a throw away item to appease the whiners. Destroying your reputation is generally all we can hope for. Mueller? Mueller?

Veranda Vamp's avatar

Great list of legal evidence seizures that absolutely DESERVE FOLLOW-UP! Thank you! So many threads have been left hanging. And so many of these despicable Democrats actually do deserve to hang.

Ruth's avatar

What if you asked all these people taking the Fifth, ā€œWhat pronouns do you use?ā€

CStone's avatar

Ruth, that would be brilliant!!!

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

"On the advice of counsel...."

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Can you name one crime DJT committed that wasn't at best a process crime?

Johnny-O's avatar

One important process crime is having his AG cover up the Epstein Files that they are obligated by law to release. But hey, its just a process crime, so no biggie.

FloridaTransplant's avatar

There’s clearly a lot of frustration behind that comment. You clearly feel very strongly that something improper is happening and that the people responsible cannot be trusted to handle it honestly. If that’s how you see the situation, I can understand why you’d be so angry about it. I hope you’re wrong, but I understand your concern. God bless.

BD's avatar

Wow, that is the longest stretch you've gone without mentioning Epstein. Boy, you just can't get off of that...lol.

Johnny-O's avatar

How's it feel to shrug off the predator class? More empty promises so trump can protect his friends.

nancy's avatar

Go away, Msnbc & CNN misses you.

FloridaTransplant's avatar

He’s clearly hurting and, I’d argue, seems to be suffering quite a bit. There’s no need to amplify his frustration or respond with insults. Why fight with him? Look at the terrible burden he’s already carrying. Whatever has left him this angry and distrustful seems painful enough. A little kindness might serve him, and our community, better.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I don't watch either.

Clearly you know more about them than I do. It's probably on now, go get your daily programming!

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Sorry facts are offensive to the small brained.

Everyone has the right to not self incriminate themselves. it's a basic constitutional right.

Even FBI agents and shady Trump approved NIH directors...

Arnold C Fossen's avatar

Blind haters have to hate blindly.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Certainly not blindly.

FloridaTransplant's avatar

Clearly a great deal of anger and bitterness behind this. Genuinely sorry for whatever burden you’re carrying that has you lashing out at complete strangers this way. Whatever is weighing on you must be particularly difficult if a simple political disagreement brings out this much hostility. I sincerely hope things get better for you and that you’re able to find some peace. God bless.

Politico Phil's avatar

Speaking of facts, how's that war going for you?

Proberta's avatar

shhhhh Phil!

Conservatives are not talking about the War. ;)

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Which one? You'll have to narrow it down.

I have a display in my office with 6 helmets from Russians that were very unlucky.

Right now there's about 2000 of your friends that are being encircled north of Lyman by some pretty damn good Ukrainain infantrymen.

You get your wildberries or ozon order yet?

Reelin’ In The Fears's avatar

Get another booster jab retard.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I'm not eligible to get a booster because I was never vaccinated.

Never fear, Trump approved more covid vaccines for you :)

Todd's avatar

Today is my parents' 57th wedding anniversary. Born 53 weeks later.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Happy birthday Todd, blessings to you ā™„ļø

LeadCPA's avatar

Sounds like they knew what they wanted. Congrats to them!

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Nice. Your parents are just 34 months ahead of us! But we had to wait 6 years for our first baby. It's all good.

Karmy's avatar

God’s blessings to you all! 57 years is an accomplishment with God’s help.

Deb's avatar

Happy Birthday Blessings to you!

Lori's avatar

Just a friendly reminder: AVMA, the American Veterinary Medical Association is on ActBlue but NOT on any conservative platform. Most vets are blue pilled and I wonder what they do to pets when they know the owner is conservative. Remember this gem from gay veterinarian and activist Chris Rispoli from Gentle Care Animal Hospital posted on his clinic's FB page when Charlie was killed: "Charlie Kirk, right wing stupid f*** maga activist shot un alived on Utah campus," "He is only the first! Could we actually be getting smart and culling the sick ones? Oh gosh, I want to offer his family my 'thoughts and prayers'!!" And the memes after that last sentence were all hands with middle fingers up in the air with many exclamation points after them. The clinic was closed down bc of his disgusting existence. The AVMA never gave him any pushback nor reprimanded him in any way. BEWARE OF YOUR VETERINARIANS. Know your vet and vet them well.

YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

Ooof. Even if I were liberal, I wouldn't want someone so hateful taking care of my pet.

Lori's avatar

Boom. You have no idea how awful many of the board and members of the AVMA are.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Lori wow, didn't know that, but I only post a few things and than get off of fb. It really is too traumatizing to see the death of our country, and evil joy in it.

Lori's avatar

Yes it is Nikki.

Primum non nocere's avatar

I find the duality of being able to take the 5th for criminal acts based on Constitutional protection and yet being mandated to inject stuff into you body is just something the State can demand of you quite ironic. As if the Declared Rights of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness are derived from said State in spite of the fact the derivation of such Rights are not specifically noted in the Constitution.

I guess the Declaration of Independence does not apply to the current Deep State running our government. My bad

william howard's avatar

right - anyone taking the 5th should be fired, mandatory house arrest, and forced to wear a mask for the rest of their life

Primum non nocere's avatar

So if someone was aware of a bioweapon being released and took the 5th, then could Public Health override the 5th Amendment right and compel the person to provide the info?

That was EXACTLY what was done by Public Health during the plandemic.

If you have an absolute protection against self incrimination (self harm), then you have an equally absolute protection from being forced to be injected by the State with a product that is legally deemed "unavoidably unsafe" (self harm)... vis a vis all vaccines.

Truth Seeker's avatar

its worse, alot worse / The code you have chosen as handle is no longer sworn

by MD graduates... As you correctly point out all vaxs and quaxs (mRNA) are harmful, some genocidal... All for the FICTION called Virus as agent of infectious dis-ease. When that FACT is widely know the once noble profession experiences

the final flush, and the chaos that ensues. Emergency Medicine, Some surgical procedures, and some infections... thats all folks...

Primum non nocere's avatar

In absentia lucis tenebrae vincunt.

Primum non nocere does not stem from or belong to medicine.

It is a foundational statement for all things. Your words. Your actions. Everything.

Escalation to harm is easy. Anyone can escalate. Anyone can harm. Its an largely emotional response. Almost a subconscious reflex.

But to first do no harm requires wisdom, perspective as opposed to perception, and a willingness to give ground...not quit or surrender..but to give the ground that affords the space in which the best path forward is found.

I took that oath many many years ago. I still practice it professionally everyday.

Many others do as well. Keep the faith. J15:13

Truth Seeker's avatar

In your analysis is there any prerequisite for Wisdom?

Do you have any idea where Wisdom comes from?

Truth Seeker's avatar

Did not suggest its origins, neither did you.

First do no harm is a creed to incorporate.

It is also nearly impossible to implement,

there are details, lots of them...

SB's avatar

Forget the religious exemption for childhood vaccines in public schools, just send an ā€œI plead the 5th letter.ā€

GregWA's avatar

You're right, Jeff, there is progress to report. But unless I see this leading to the frog-marching of at least 1000 deep staters, led by Obama, Clinton, Soros, and all their handlers and enablers (big, truly BIG money), I don't think anything will change.

They will just wait out Trump, like the Iranians, and keep up the same show with Vance or Rubio, or whoever is next. Or they will just outright steal it again and install AOC in the White House.

You are in the trenches, reading the NYT for us (thank you!), but I'm not, so the trench warfare successes are harder to place in the context of the War.

Alice Ball's avatar

I get it GregWA, but I’m far more positive about it all bc I look at Trump 2.0 as a glorious team, all pulling on the same rope. Act Blue is DONE. SPLC is DONE. USAID is DONE. Iran is hugely crippled and Bessent will put them away & crush what’s left of their economy. All of this is MAJOR stuff I never thought we’d see. Because it has never been done before—-and that’s because there has never been in history a conspiracy to overthrow the US govt like the one led by Obama & crew & the globalists and Deep State. Be patient. Read this and pray for this result:

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/remember-the-names?r=yyzmm&utm_medium=ios

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Alice, excellent synopsis of the corruption of the Democrats and the deep state. Thanks for posting. His name rang a bell and when I saw his book list I realized from where. "A World Made By Hand" was one of my favorite post-apocalypse stories, and I've read many. I see he has three more. I've got my reading cut out for me now.

Truth Seeker's avatar

alway important to do inventory on success for the "when is something gonna happen" peeps. Unfortunately the Fake News and those who think it credible

are insidious.

DaveL's avatar

Dream on…wish it were true.

Karmy's avatar

GregWA I think the anxiety of not knowing when there will be a knock on their door by the DOJ is part of their punishment for their crimes. With Trump’s DOJ running things they know it’s not business as usual. Even with their arrogance they must still be feeling some fear and foreboding. God’s Will be done!

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

GregWA- I think that when and if obama, clintons, soros etc, get arrested/socially terminated the dems will incite a civil war. I think Trump is trying to prevent this from happening. Just a thought. A civil war will bring out even more enemies to see America die.

Steve Stevens's avatar

Trump has already given Clinton a pass, so unless he changes his mind you won’t be seeing Clinton doing any frog -marching.

Reelin’ In The Fears's avatar

Her punishment is waking up everyday knowing that her obituary will never contain the words ā€œformer Presidentā€.

Steve Stevens's avatar

People wanted justice, as in ā€œlocked upā€. Instead, after he was elected, we got ā€œ I don’t want to hurt them,ā€ he said, referring to the Clintons. ā€œThey’re good people.ā€

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-60-minutes-20161114-story.html

Proberta's avatar

"I don't want to hurt them"

Especially since Trump and Hillary are cousins!

Bloodline.

JollyLittlePerson's avatar

You would think someone would notice the bit about "self incrimination" in the Fifth Amendment.

It's not meant to be an excuse to stay quiet just because you feel like it, or claim a sore throat or a bad day...

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Fauci taking the fifth on questions like "What color is your tie?" is possibly grounds for contempt charges. I don't know if anyone has been successfully prosecuted yet for that, though.

JollyLittlePerson's avatar

Yes, Skeptical Actuary, taking the Fifth on the color of his tie shows he was personally contemptuous of the Senators, the process, and the public. It's probably not what he will get punished for, even if he ever gets punished for anything.

DaveL's avatar

He’s probably thinking ā€œbring it onā€ because no DC court will ever prosecute him. Sad but true.

David Nelson's avatar

It's time for the Supreme Court to "illuminate" the concept of "contempt" in connection with invocation of the Fifth Amendment.

Juju's avatar

I’ve been thinking, we should have a law that excludes the ability to take the fifth when it is in regard to government service roles. When you accept the appointment or the elected position to work on behalf of the people, you forfeit your right to ever plead the fifth to any investigation/inquiry relating to your duties or anything connected to what you heard or saw in your role. It would not remove your constitutional right to not incriminate yourself for any other matters unrelated to the work of the People.

The People have a right to answers and to the truth about what happens in our government. Nobody should have the right to hide behind the fifth in that respect. If you’re not guilty of anything, then answering questions truthfully about your government job/contract/appointment will not harm you. But if you were a turd bucket with our resources and information, then you should not be allowed protection of the fifth

David Nelson's avatar

I'd like to think this covers all scenarios, but I'm immediately reminded that truly evil people come to power now and again. #joebiden

I have however always wondered: what scenarios--exactly--did the framers have in mind when they conceived the 5th Amendment? But not knowing any, I'm still willing to bet they were right to insist it is for Every citizen. But I do hear you. However, "the right to know things" is one of those things that is trumped by someone else's right.

Juju's avatar

What’s the use of ā€œoversightā€ committees if you can plead the fifth to the actual oversight due to the people? It would basically make the oversight committees impotent and dysfunctional in their intended duty

David Nelson's avatar

I think the only, but real, utility is to ensure that people who take the fifth don't continue in taxpayer-subsidized careers.

Bones's avatar

I have a T-shirt that says Jesus math five loaves +2 fish equals 5000 fed. The answer to the national debt is to get Godā€˜s blessing increasing in our nation by getting all the Christians to wake the heck up and start being disciples

Skenny's avatar

WTF happened to DOGE? It sounded good on paper.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Hit like a sledgehammer, worked perfectly.

Fraud exposure continues, where have you been??

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

I agree Truth Seeker. DOGE got the ball rolling and the VP along with CMS led by DrOz have picked up some of it. Dr. Oz and his team have been investigating and finding lots of fraud and abuse in various states as it relates to home healthcare and durable medical equipment among other things. I’m focused on the healthcare side of things mainly and know they’ve done a lot. James O’Keefe and Nick Shirley have assisted and are continuing to do so along with others. There’s a lot more work to be done.

Truth Seeker's avatar

As you point out the reveals persist. The net result is that normies realize the fraud is pervasive and widespread. Grossly disproportionate on the Dem side of the equation. Very amused that renegade MD's are now common since the fear of delicensure has diminished.

Skenny's avatar

$1 trillion added to the debt in 4 months. I've been trying to get reliable numbers on DOGE savings. Seems Nick Shirley has been uncovering more fraud than DOGE, but again, I can't find good numbers.

Johnny-O's avatar

You mean the scam to give access to lucrative data to a Trump crony? Yeah, it did sound good on paper though. They can keep uncovering all the waste they want, but they aren't touching the pentagon of course, and ultimately, it won't matter if Trump continues to spend like a drunken sailor. Hey may end his term being the biggest spender in recent history. TAW, or something.

Proberta's avatar

"..the biggest spender in recent history"

Because Americans are spending $1billion dollars a day for Trump and Bibi's war to steal Iran's oil, Trump will surpass Biden's debt surplus by the end of the year.

FloridaTransplant's avatar

That’s a pretty profound level of distrust. It sounds like you’re very angry and genuinely concerned about this administration: the data is a scam, the reformers are cronies, the Pentagon is untouchable, the spending is hopeless, and ultimately none of it matters anyway. That’s an incredibly bleak way to see everything that’s happening. I’m sorry this has you so upset.

I don’t share your outlook, obviously, but I can appreciate that these things genuinely concern you. I hope things turn out better than you’re expecting. I will add you to my prayers, and I sincerely hope you find some peace.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Or the Fed could stop handing money to Wall Street to fund the gambling going on there.

That is why the public debt has skyrocketed since 2009. They are putting their gambling onto our debt.

Mrs. RW

Skenny's avatar

Government to Wall Street:

"What? Lost all your money gambling? Not to worry. Taxpayers got you covered."

Karmy's avatar

Agree Bones. Repent and turn to God!

Bard Joseph's avatar

All the miracles were added to the beautiful original Christs teachings by the magic loving Canaanites. Read Jeffersons Bible.

M. Patrick McCrary's avatar

Conservatives say nothing ever happens because the legacy media ultimately determines the narrative in this country so unless they say something is happening, most low information voters believe it so the swing vote, i.e., independents and moderates, are not getting the memo therefore the midterms may be at risk.

MaryAnnTexanInArizona's avatar

I am one of those, but little by little I think people are waking up, we must pray it's enough.

Margot Wooster's avatar

I don’t think it actually depends on ā€œenough people waking upā€; I think it is a question of timing and every piece being put into place before the big kaboom.

Truth Seeker's avatar

the big explosion may be one of consciousness

Normies are very upset when they realize they were lied to,

but worse, that they drank the kool aid

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I'm hopeful President Trump can successfully implement election measures after declaring a national emergency.

Robird's avatar

I disagree, the national emergency declared for Covid resulted in significant violation of Constitutional Rights. Allowing a President to declare an emergency to avoid the legislative process, as messy and frustrating as it is, would be dangerous to the fundamental structure of the US Republic.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Just because a tool can be used for evil does not mean it cannot also be used for good. It may be necessary to save our country.

Robird's avatar

Does not seem likely, but Washington was certainly the best known exception of voluntary surrender of power.

FDR proved the allure of power, necessitating the Twenty Second Amendment.

Can Trump or another individual resist? Not clear at all.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions to be trite.

DaveL's avatar

Like, invalidate all the votes in Texas because the stupid Wall is so aggravating that people will vote for Talarico who wouldn’t have otherwise? And create a Democrat majority in the Senate.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Totally inaccurate. Alfred has zero chance without election wanking.

Zero illegal infiltration for several months... exposure of the billions in fraud,

some clawed back, false beliefs exposed. The wall is a physical barrier, that is only stupid to those who think inconvenience is too high a price to pay for Sovereignty. The Spaniards most definitly realize this...

DaveL's avatar

No, totally accurate. If we’re going to become a police state with Soviet-style walls built everywhere, including areas where no one is, than sovereignty ain’t worth a plugged nickel.

Truth Seeker's avatar

The border wall is not Soviet, it is a physical barrier, that no alien can breach.

Personally do not like fences, but they keep undesirables out.

Sovereignty is protecting borders in part... One does not pay a price for it,

one proclaims it as a birthright... Is not a monetary consideration.

Politico Phil's avatar

I think that MAY come but it might not be until the 2028 election... if we have one.

Truth Seeker's avatar

That comment is a very strong case to pay zero heed to the Fake News, ever.

Some figured this out over 3 decades ago and were not early

Steve Stevens's avatar

That sounds like an excuse for doing nothing.

FrankInFL's avatar

Happy 80th birthday to my wife who, despite being a rabid foaming-at-the-mouth Leftist, still loves me as do I her.

Verve's avatar

My flabbers are gasted! šŸ˜‚ yours was the hippie generation of love, peace, free sex, pot smoking and sticking it to the man and so on and so forth. My generation had to pick up the pieces on that and explain to our kids, why their grandparents rebelled against *their* more straightlaced parents who were of the World War II generation. I'm generation Jones, and I just want everybody to get along. All the best to you and your wife… Let us prayā€¦šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜‚šŸ™šŸ’•

FG Wren's avatar

Verve, not all of us were hippies. I will be 80 in two months. Born and raised in So. Calif. Worked from age 14 and still working. Local college and married at 19 with two kids by 23. Never met a hippie that I know of. None of my friends or family were hippies and we were all appalled at the treatment of the VN vets (I lost friends in VN). Father WWII vet and very R. I still don't know anyone who was a hippie and never really thought about them. Voted D (didn't follow politics) until after Carter mistake. Hear comments like yours often but all we were doing was trying to do was take care of our family and improve our lives.

Verve's avatar

You are absolutely right, and I did not mean to paint with such a large brush, I was just speaking from my own personal experience. I grew up in a very liberal suburb of Cleveland, Ohio. The 60s were in full swing when I was in elementary school. Drug use was off the chain, lots of overdoses, lots of protests, and lots of questionable sexual behavior, which, even as a child back, then I knew was damaging to society. I was in first grade when they took the Pledge of Allegiance out of school, followed by stripping any quasi-religious music that we might have sung in choir around the holidays. We were no longer allowed to call it Christmas break, We had to say holiday break. I was in fifth grade when Our health class passed around drugstore contraceptives to children who were barely going through puberty. But oh, we were so progressive! Our churches at that time also took away the catechism in favor of a simple ā€œJesus is Loveā€ mantra with no structural anchor that would have kept us from drifting out to the immoral sea with no boat, and no life jacket. In 10th grade, I was forced, in order to pass the required health class, to participate in an abortion debate. Back then the terms were pro-abortion and anti-abortion. I don't know how my 16 year-old self was able to survive that complete humiliation ritual - being the only one on the pro life side of the class while the rest of the class, screamed at me for my position on the matter., Knowing full well half the girls in the class had already had their first abortion, compliments of their mothers taking them to the clinic to have the problem ā€œgo awayā€. (My mom, rest her soul, was only one of a handful of women in ā€˜73 who would pray in front of abortion clinics when you could get arrested for doing so. We've gone full circle now and Mikie Sherrill signing a recent law saying you can't pray outside abortion clinics anymore. ) FG your children, indeed, we're very lucky to have you!

FG Wren's avatar

Definitely see what you mean. It seems we grew up on two different planets. I can't even imagine things changing so much back then. Makes me feel pretty sheltered. Had two younger sisters who were about 8 years behind me and they had the same experience as I. Our schools were still having Christmas programs/holidays and allowing students to post teen Christian services outside of school ... that saved me during a time I was very insecure. Not sure I even knew about abortions at the time. It's seriously sad & appalling what you went through and couldn't just live your life. Might be hard to believe that there are still some very conservative areas in So. & No. Calif. even though I haven't lived there in 15 years (family still does). Must be the same in Ohio.

FrankInFL's avatar

I was always a Libertarian and something of a hawk when it was fashionable to spit on returning VN vets; so was she. I tell people that it took me 35 years before I began to understand what Peter, Paul, & Mary were singing about.

https://dispatchesfromheck.blogspot.com/2016/04/our-patriotic-duty.html

Politico Phil's avatar

Or Creedence Clearwater Revival.... I was 16 in 1967.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFv_yIXxasM

Roger Beal's avatar

Trump's DOJ: A prosecutorial merry-go-round whacking leftards with each revolution.

THAT is what I voted for.

Reelin’ In The Fears's avatar

Roger that Roger. Any relation to Howard?😁

Matt L.'s avatar

You have meddled with the primal forces of Nature!

ā€œI have seen the face of Godā€

Roger Beal's avatar

Sone days I feel like his twin brother ...

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I have a new substack regarding the contrast between reactions to the Lindsay Clancy case vs Andrea Shaw's case.

https://skepticalactuary1348.substack.com/p/lindsey-clancy-and-andrea-yates-a

Brief summary: liberals support Lindsey Clancy strongly, but think Andrea Shaw is a monster, even though Andrea Shaw almost certainly did not kill her children - there's a decent amount of evidence they died of "SIDS".

Juju's avatar

Their reaction this week sickens me, and I thought they already had pushed me to my sickened limits. I understand wanting the public to understand postpartum depression struggles, and the dangers to the drugs they use to treat it, and all bi-polar type depressions, but their displays during this trial are sick.

And I understand the ā€œhearing voicesā€ telling you to do things, but people who truly have THAT going on are a LOT more visibly crazy BEFORE, during and after. It’s being used by defense attorneys way too much to avoid harsher penalties for their clients. You don’t get to kill your kids like that and claim insanity. You should receive the death penalty, or at minimum be locked up for your acts with no chance of parole if there is clear proof you had a psychotic breakdown. I’m sorry you were possessed by demons and acted on it, but that’s the hand you were dealt and for everyone’s safety you should live your live in prison accepting the lot. It sounds unforgiving, I know, but if there are no consequences truly evil people will continue to get away with their crimes. A lifetime in a mental institution is called for if indeed you had a black out period where you strangled three kids! And now you’re ok? šŸ™„šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

Thanks for attending my Ted-Rant

Proberta's avatar

"died of 'SIDS'"

And the majority of SIDS victims were vaxxinated.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Vax deaths are exactly like that... thank Big P and over 99% of the Medical Cartel

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I am so sorry folks, I typed "Yates" instead of "Shaw" in several places.

Andrea Yates is a woman who killed her 5 children a few decades ago.

https://skepticalactuary1348.substack.com/p/correction-lindsay-clancy-compared

Juju's avatar

Fyi Skeptical, every time I try to read your most current Substack you link to above it shows a blank screen and freezes my app, and I have to close and reload to use it again. I went to your account page and selected the post from there and the same thing happens. When I click on your previous article that loads no problem! Only this one is crashing my app. Gee, comparing the reactions to these two cases by the dems might have triggered a ā€œno-noā€ flag and Substack censorship??? šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

Just wanted you to know I am unable to read this stack but can read the prior day.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I just realized I typed "Yates" instead of "Shaw" in several places in my post, including the title! I deleted the original post and have put out a fixed version.

https://skepticalactuary1348.substack.com/p/correction-lindsay-clancy-compared

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Thanks for the heads up. I don't know what to make of it.

Juju's avatar

Well if you’re views/likes are lower than usual this will be why

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

It's got 3 likes and one comment so far, which is at least average for my substack posts. On the other hand, I managed to put my comment about the post REALLY early here, so a lot of Coffee and Covid people have gotten to see the comment. Usually I'm a horrible night owl and only wake up to read Coffee and Covid by late afternoon.

Juju's avatar

Yeah I can’t even tap the like. Everything freezes and it’s a blank page with no text but the like and comment buttons at bottom, but again all locked up until I reboot. Not happening in any other Substack I’m reading … or your old ones. I’ll check again tomorrow since it was so new.