Hey Speaker Johnson: 11% reduction in the cost of our health insurance plans is NOT “affordability.” Gut Obamacare and replace it something that works. Republicans need to demonstrate “competence,” not incremental changes on Democrat’s programs!!!!!
It boggles the mind that people can't see obamacare for the fiscal disaster it has been. As a healthcare provider, and a consumer of a once great but now unaffordable employer based insurance plan, I have seen nothing but surging costs, reduced personal choices (forced vaccinations by insurance plans,hospitals) and "one size fits all" "healthcare" destroy what was once merely tiresome and overwrought into a disaster of epic proportions. People need to wake up to what has happened.
First, it made buying insurance a law (a tax), removing any notion of marketplace competition. Many insurers stopped selling in various states based on local regulations and costs, further limiting choice, at least the illusion of choice. With government subsidies, insurance companies could raise rates and or gut policy features at will. Any congressman that thinks a 60/40 plan is viable insurance needs to be bitchslapped. These useless policies are a road to bankruptcy from a single medical crisis.
Two, Obamacare masked and delayed solving one of the single largest issues with “healthcare” namely out-of-control-costs and complete lack of transparency. Insurance companies are complicit in this game, but with Obamacare, they had even less incentive to force down costs, even hiding some hospitals that charge exorbitant amounts over others in the same area. Prior to Obamacare, my premiums had jumped in the 20% range every 18 months from 2004 to 2014. It was a game of switching providers and cutting services, usually going to an increasingly higher deductible. The markup on services, especially diagnostics is/was outrageous. For example, our research clinic had a state of the art blood lab, that could run samples on two hundred patients in a morning. We sold these services for less than $6 for a full blood and chem panel. Labcorp charged my insurance provider something $105+ for the same panel, “negotiated” down from $250+. That was 15 years ago. Prices have gone way up. Eliminating Obamacare is a good first step, but more must be done. Trump negotiating way lower drug prices is a first practical step.
They (pharma and the medical industrial complex) swung for the fence and won during covid. They peaked, raking in unheard of profits on an experimental product with massive side effects. A scheme that required across the board censorship and medical staff compliance. That ship has sailed. Plus, the optics are terrible and getting worse, so unless there’s a change in the administration, the next three years will only downtrend in growth and profit. Could be wrong.
That won't stop the congress critters and the aristocrat chamber from doubling down on a bad decision. It's not over until the political parasites have squeezed out the last kickback, subsidy and lobby dollar.
“it made buying insurance a law (a tax)” as does Medicare and I resent THE HELL out of having to buy a plan based on our €ucked up healthcare system that I will NEVER use
I think it's like 60% or 70% of Americans who have employer provided insurance, Medicaid, or Medicare. That's why Obamacare is so 'popular' - the vast majority of us don't have it and don't need to shop for something else.
To be clear, when the ACA 'went live' in 2013, I was unemployed and my temporary insurance plan was cancelled. I was forced to sign up for ACA. I didn't qualify for subsidies, so I got a plan through Blue Cross/Blue Shield. There was 1 plan (for a single person) with 3 levels of premium/deductible, Bronze, Silver or Gold. It's the same today. My premium went from $100/month to $250/month and the deductible tripled. That's cheap compared to today. Luckily, I started a new job the next month. I'm no fan of Obamacare, and the ACA wrecked health insurance for everyone. I'm just pointing out that it's popular in America, because most of us aren't forced to shop for health insurance.
All politicians. Insurance shouldn't exist. Get rid of insurance companies and doctors charge reasonable prices for care. Never happen because of corruption (money) in it. Every doctor i talk to would like to get rid of insurance but they won't do anything about it.
If you go to a car repair shop for a particular repair (spark plugs, for example), they have a list of set costs that include projected labor time, parts, etc. However, if you go to a doctor or hospital, there are a gazillion different costs for the same thing. If you have insurance, your cost for a procedure is negotiated down far below what you would be charged if you had NO insurance and paid out of pocket! And how much you pay depends on your insurance company and plan. I would like to know why various treatments could not be a set price everywhere and reasonable prices so that people could basically pay for them personally. Doctors and hospitals would not have to go through the ridiculous billing process. Then to cover beyond the usual and typical little problems people have (colds, flu, strep throat etc), people could carry affordable catastrophic health insurance to cover really terrible events that might happen.
When people have and pay for big insurance plans that cover virtually every little scratch, I've read discussions of how they go to the doctor MORE and clog up waiting rooms and doctor time unnecessarily to get their money's worth. In other words, if people had to pay for the little things themselves, they might not go to the doctor so much.
There could also be a small clinic system attached to pharmacies where you could go for very small things and be seen by a nurse practitioner and be prescribed necessary meds right there. And the costs would be reasonable so people self pay. Other countries apparently have this.
I had a hernia surgery a few years back. I saw the original bill that was sent to Medicare and my secondary at something like $19,000. As this bill worked through their idiotic billing system, and Medicare decided what it would pay, the final bill ended up at $1,400. It just seems crazy that the bill was ever $19K, to be honest. I could have paid $1,400 without too much pain, but $19K is a different matter.
Exactly how it should work. The total amount charged for my back surgeries from 2010-2015 at Cedars Sinai in Los Angeles was $793,946.37, the approved amount for payment was $118,060.94
Peel back the onion one layer deeper. Insurance exists to protect against catastrophic events. In case of health care, it’s a doc or hospital being $ financially ruined for ‘malpractice’.
The way to bring healthcare costs down is to place a $ cap on doctor / hospital $ liability, otherwise known as tort reform. Most of our legal community wouldn’t like this, as it puts a good portion of them out of work.
Big Pharma was granted 100% immunity from the jabs. We don’t need to do the same for doctors / hospitals. However, we could place reasonable limits on how much they can be sued for when they screw up.
Do this, and insurance costs go south. And the cost of healthcare follows.
Docs don’t like insurance because it costs so much.
Interesting side note. The foundations of the modern insurance industry lie w/ the Knights Templar. Who agreed to ‘protect’ the belongings of Christians when they undertook a pilgrimage (like the Camino walk) which in centuries past could take years to complete, and anyone with the means wanted to undertake.
I see insurance like government. We don't need it. It's a farce. The whole system is backwards. They are public servants so we should know everyrhing about them. We are private citizens they should know nothing about us. Insurance drove up the cost of everything because they refused to pay what doctors were billing, which used to be reasonable. Then doctors started inflating because they knew it would get "negotiated" down to what they hoped to get. Then they tricked everyone into believing rhey needed it, and under certain admins you had to have it or you were punished financially. No one should be forced to pay for something. Maybe they don't want to go to the hospital? Maybe they're ok with dying. Maybe they are large earners or saved well and can pay for their care. Maybe in the event of something catastrophic they oay a payment plan?
Doctors are 0w3nd by insurance companies who have "wrapped up" the overwhelming masses of patient-customers. "Campaigning against our plan? Surprise: you are now off the list of 'approved doctors' for our ocean of patients in your town. Good luck with the move." Doctors have told me they have "no idea" what their service is "worth" because the insurance companies have multiplied deals within deals so that "only they, really, know."
But employer provided healthcare is through the roof too! If employers have to pay stupidly high prices for health insurance, they can’t afford to hire or keep as many employees.
the premiums for mediocre to terrible services are a way for employees and employers to pour tens of billions into insurance companies and subvert American productivity and investment. Great for executives and stocks of "Healthcare" providers, yet all we hear from Democrats and the Pharma-Insurance-Medical Lobby is we need to INVEST ever more into "Care" for better service and affordability.
Our company offers employee and family full coverage at no cost to the employee. Our plans have gone up 12–18% every year since obamacare. This year we went with the plan with out-of-pocket doubling. Told employees it’s either this or we don’t offer coverage at all and made sure they know exactly why.
My wifes employer (very big investment firm with lots of $) stopped covering insurance years ago and everytime she gets a raise, they increase her cost. Thousands per month for a family of 3 and we rarely go so we never use it and if we do we never meet any deductibles. Insurance is a big scam, almost as bad as nasa.
Even if on Medicare you have to have a medi gap policy + RX plan. Both cost extra. Its only good point was that everyone must be accepted by the insurance companies regardless of pre existing conditions.
There’s a solution no one is talking about and it’s health sharing companies like Samaratin Ministries. But, insurance companies don’t want people to know about them and they work very hard to try to pass legislation to make them go away!! Samaratin pays 100% after your first $1,000. Everyone should be researching it and leaders at the top should be talking about it. It’s not a scam like Obamacare and you can go to any Dr you want!! There are about ten or 15 different sharing plans out there. I highly recommend. I’m 62 and pay $360/month! I can go to any Dr I want!!
I pay $15k a year for a health insurance policy with a $10k out of pocket and 60/40 split up to $150k - it’s hardly “health insurance” and more of a $15k/year discount card: It re-prices all the specialists and treatments/imaging to more reasonable prices that I pay out of pocket. Pre-Obamacare I was paying $500(?)/month for a catastrophic plan. Now, as a self employed individual, I bend over (ouch!) for government dictated health insurance. 11% savings? Puuuulllllleaaassssse!
I have medicare now as someone 65+. I, too use it as catastrophic care. I was uninsured for 90% of my life. Blessed with good health, no conditions or meds. *I am an alternative, licensed health care provider, 30+ years. I have a great network of providers if I need to think through any issues. So. 😉
read, read, read. Naturopaths, chiropractors, functional medicine. There is not easy path and it's not inexpensive. I have an interesting chiropractic appointment tomorrow. Stay tuned.
I probably spend less than 1K/yr on my healthcare, including all ingredients, herbs and gadgets. I agree, it's constant self education and self treatment. So worth it though.
I don’t know how we are going to tame the insurance companies which take 30% of every healthcare dollar. My mother gets an injection in her eye every three months for macular degeneration. The medicine they use was once used for some intestinal disease, cancer, I think and used to cost about $50 for the amount of medicine that they are using. They turned it into an injectable for the eye and started charging something like $2300 per shot. Luckily, my mother qualifies to receive it directly from the drug company. I looked at her Medicare bill for her trip to the doctor every three months, and the provider billed Medicare almost $8000 !How?????
Here is another interesting fact. If you spent $1 million every day, it would take over 100,000 years to equal our national debt. I found this hard to believe, so I whipped out the calculator, and it’s true.
There are several great doctors online who discuss the marvels of DMSO and Jim Humble’s MMS (now has a new name bc someone couldn't handle the term “Miracle” Mineral Supplement. Both are fabulous for macular degeneration.
I have read some of that, but I have never come across a protocol with instructions as to how to make the solution on how to administer it. I know it’s tricky for a doctors to give online medical advice.
To your point about 100,000 years at the rate of $1M per day, my favorite formula- no longer easily found on the internet, interestingly- is this one:
If you were paid a dollar per second
Every second, every hour, every day,
It would take around 37,000 years to bring in *$1 trillion*.
When I hear that the USA’s debt is quickly approaching $40T, or the global debt load exceeds $330T, it’s clear to me that there is zero chance any principal will ever be reduced, and that it’s highly likely there will be a financial reset, which is likely to be mighty painful.
Above my pay grade what that reset might look like, I just think about the pain of household debt…
Unfortunately, they will try to unleash centralized digital currency on us, and our society will be much closer to that of communist China. Bye-bye freedom.
Not taking sides here just providing some potential 'facts'. Take a look at this chart and you will have to go to #40 to find United HealthGroup, a Dow Jones top 10 company, to find net profit margin. Now, United Health Care is a subsidiary of UHG so, the net profit might be higher for that subsidiary. With a 4.3% net profit margin, I'm not sure how you get 30% of every healthcare dollar. I would like to see some documentation on that figure. I worked for a smaller health insurance provider when the state required insurers to be not for profit. Our operating margin i.e. what we had left after paying medical claims was in the 3-4% range. That is what we had to pay the company expenses e.g. salary, benefits, building lease, etc... Lots of other companies with much higher net profit margins and nobody seems to be upset about those. Anyhow, healthcare costs are a serious concern, but there are many places to point blame and improve, including consumer habits. Just sayin'.
Another strong recommendation to look at DMSO for macular degeneration. There are at least two very good books describing how DMSO works for so many ailments. Also The Midwestern Doctor substack includes many discussions about DMSO.
Health Insurance: Thank you for calling it what it almost is. More specifically it is insurance for very limited forms of medical treatment options that will be denied if at all possible. Probably the only way to get the actual cost of the actual care down is to eliminate the insurance completely. A side-benefit to this is that the care will improve with more options. Perhaps afterward we could work toward eliminating the entire licensing process.
𝐷𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑆𝑝𝑖𝑛 by Wendell Potter. Former top PR (spin) guy at Cigna. Kid from an impoverished family in eastern KY or TN that "made it." Until his life was falling apart - drinking, smoking, failing marriage - and he had an epiphany when back home for a visit he went to a local health fair where people were waiting in long lines in the rain to be seen for health care in animal stalls. Turned whistleblower. 𝐷𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑆𝑝𝑖𝑛 is his freshman book; he has others. Also a substack if I'm not mistaken. His life is now about truth telling and working to change the system. High marks for the dude swimming upstream.
My hope here is the ripple effect. Never give up. We, The People, are God's army. We are the only ones that will save us.
That’s what that Luigi guy who took the CEOs life in 2024, apparently had in mind. I absolutely do not endorse your sentiment.
What actually should happen at the same time Obamacare is deleted, is to prevent health insurance companies from being publicly traded. Access to the capital markets taken away, they would have to renegotiate all provider contracts to build in profits based on competence and effectiveness. Painful move, but necessary. A whole lot of powerful people would lose their grift, too.
well the healthy working classers subsidize the wealthy overseers to dole out mediocre services to all so that we destigmatize the wealthy healthcare and that which under-documented, uninsured, lesser employed, underserved persons and their food-scarcity deprived children receive
I was just thinking about how we pay $600 a mo for a $1500 deductible plan and this is considered affordable! Not play on ACA words. I remember when $600 a mo was outrageous and most paid $200-$300 a mo!
Well said. We're all drowning in insurance debt and it needs a smart whack up side da head and put back in line along with medical costs and we need to be rid of these goofy (not the Disney character) PBM's, TPA and all the rest of the minutiae that exists between us and our healthcare dollars.
The real answer is to let the market drive down medical prices.
This requires PRICE TRANSPARENCY from start to finish.
Doctors and hospitals must publish exact price lists and charge everyone the same exact price for the same service regardless of insurance.
Insurance companies must give instant coverage responses and complete menus of what exactly is covered and how much so it doesn't take two weeks on the phone to find out.
All medical bills must become legally invalid unless the patient agreed to exactly those charges in advance, in writing, with documentation of exactly how much insurance will cover.
Emergency bills must be limited by law, because there can be no market in emergencies.
This is normal in all other industries. Restaurants provide menus. Why should doctors and hospitals be exempt from providing menus?
Once people can EASILY shop for the best quality price combination from insurers and providers, the problem will solve itself.
But the AMA, insurers, et al are determined to continue to obfuscate and lobby to prevent the market from working.
Good morning, everyone! Jeff Childers, I hope you and your household get well soon and enjoy the longer than expected holiday time together! Thank you for your daily email!!!
I called my financial advisor in 2018 and told him I wanted to invest in Space X. I was embarrassingly informed that it was a privately held company. That it may be going public SOON has been beautiful music to my ever impatient ears! What the status quo cannot accomplish in decades, Musk makes happen In mere months. Private sector vs. public. Innovation vs bureaucratic stagnation.
2025 was an incredible shift shaper of a year. I predict 2026 will be epic…I cannot even BEGIN to imagine what is on the horizon, but I am eager to find out.
Musk is a fraud. He stole tesla and he doesnt send anything into space, nor does nasa. It's a multibillion dollar demonic grift of cgi fakery. If his tesla floating in orbit (even musk said, "it has to be real, look how fake it looks." If that doesn't clue you in, I suggest you go back and look at all the pictures of what supposedly fit in the first rocket, crew, rover (i particularly love the upsode down umbrella on the rover, real high tech,) food, equipment, etc. How did they get footage from the moon of it landing, if that was the first moon landing? How, without internet, cloud or anything else do they have pictures of it the very next day for all of the newspapers? Why are armstrongs boot prints different then what they show him wearing in the rocket? I could go on, but no one can get passed the firmament, aka van allen belt.
And I saw how NASA is the largest purchaser of helium and hydrogen in the world. They use it for sending up balloons masquerading as satellites. I have seen videos of even giant rocket boosters made of a balloon; one collapsed as it was tied to the scaffold. The easiest one to debunk is the supposed return "landing" of a SpaceX rocket, totally bogus, and Bezos' capsule with all the women sent into "space". The media shows it and the public believes it.
But I like Musk, he is supporting Trump, so he is supporting our war against the deep state. I know, some will argue with that.
Oh, please! Have you ever been to a "CGI" launch in person? I have, the last space shuttle launch. You can't CGI physical vibration in people a mile away unless you want to drift into co-conspiracy theories where they're attacking with the C1A's "heart attack" laser weapon.
Stay in your lane. I'm as big a conspiracy-aware person on the planet, and there's nothing of the fraud you claim there with space.
Just because you don't understand it and you've researched it on the web does NOT make you an expert. Geeze!
/rant off (until the loonies start back up).
For the love of God, please go deep dive the real conspiracies where you personally experience the fraud-indicting facts.
Its all fake, demonic crap founded by woernher von braun, and l ron hubbard scientology due which is why all their missions and everyrhing else are osiris and other babylonian names. I understand it really well. It's fake. Jusy because you don't get that, i'm not out of my "lane." If you thi k nasa and their space missions are real, I feel sorry for you. There's plenty of proof out there. Or just keep your head buried in the sand, doesn't affect me at all. Your government lies to you about everything, not just this or that. EVERYTHING.
As Christmas approached my tenth year, I longed for an electric train. The times were those of economic depression, yet Mother and Dad worked hard and purchased for me a lovely electric train.
Christmas morning bright and early, I thrilled when noticing my new railroad fleet. The next few hours were devoted to operating the transformer and conducting its operation as the engine transported goods to needful places forward and backward and all around the track.
Mother had also purchased a wind-up train for Widow Hansen’s boy, Mark, who lived down on Gale Street. Inspecting it, I noted a tanker car which I much admired—my railway clients, afterall, had much need for fuel. I put up such a fuss that my mother succumbed to my pleadings and surrended it. With excitement, I attached it to my train and delivered a full tank of natural gas to a grateful dispensary. “Their customers will be warm this Christmas night”, I mused triumphantly.
Later, Mother and I took the remaining cars and engine down to Mark Hansen. The young boy was a year or two older than I. He had never anticipated such a gift. He was thrilled beyond words. He wound the key in his lock, it not being electric nor expensive like mine, and was overjoyed as the engine and three cars, plus a caboose, went around the track.
I felt a horrible sense of guilt as I returned home. The tanker car no longer appealed to me. Suddenly, I took it in my hand, plus an additional car of my own, and ran all the way down to Gale Street and proudly announced to Mark, “We forgot to bring two cars which belong to your train.”
I don’t know when a deed had made me feel any better than that experience as a ten-year old boy, I have carried it with me, as if a warm glowing memory on a dark freezing night, ever since
As a mother very proud of my two, I can imagine how your mother must have felt. Such a valuable lesson and a confirmation that you have a conscience and acted on the right thing to do.
Thank you for saying so, Calgon. Alas, this was not written by me (although i did embellish it), but by, Thomas S. Monson, whose mother, Ive little doubt, was as proud of him as you allude.
Wishing the Childers a speedy recovery from their antibody building experience. Awesome to have a POTUS working hard on our economy, as opposed to talking about it. We need more Elon Musks.
Musk is a fraud. He stole tesla and he doesnt send anything into space, nor does nasa. It's a multibillion dollar demonic grift of cgi fakery. If his tesla floating in orbit (even musk said, "it has to be real, look how fake it looks." If that doesn't clue you in, I suggest you go back and look at all the pictures of what supposedly fit in the first rocket, crew, rover (i particularly love the upsode down umbrella on the rover, real high tech,) food, equipment, etc. How did they get footage from the moon of it landing, if that was the first moon landing? How, without internet, cloud or anything else do they have pictures of it the very next day for all of the newspapers? Why are armstrongs boot prints different then what they show him wearing in the rocket? I could go on, but no one can get passed the firmament, aka van allen belt.
Truth and if you don't get that everything the government has e er told you is a lie, I feel sorry for you. Guess who re-wrote history? Rockefeller. The same guy that poisons you with medicine. Ghislane maxwells (yes the pedos accomplice) father, Rovert Maxwell was a mossad spy that owned Pergamon Press (pergamon, satans altar) printed schoolbooks for america. Go on youtube and look at all the bad cgi nasa videos where they drop tools and they don't float. Also stanley kubrick, before death made a video admitting he filmed it in hollywood. Now nasa has the largest movie studio in existence. Why does a space agency need a movie studio? Even Armstrong said, "We never went to the moon, we faked it." He was just joking right!? Astronaut petit said nasa lost the technology to go to the moon." This has all been proven. It's all a lie. Dinosaurs,globe earth, Spanish flu, kansas flu, moon landings, convid, blah blah blah, lies, lies, lies. Boy you believe anything, i bet you watch a lot of tv. The ones that watch tv, and participate in politics are the most gullible people I've ever met. Those frequencies really work, on the eeak-minded.
You feel better now? It's you I feel sorry for. Yes, some things *have* been faked. But not all. Since you just decided to throw everything into the fake basket, nothing is real for you. And that is just as bad as what you accuse others of. Discernment is a learned skill. And worth cultivating. Deciding everything is fake is lazy. And just because you read it on the internet doesn't make fakery accusations any more real than the things you cite. Then again you have always enjoyed poking at people, so maybe you are just a Chinese bot...
So become a fraud, rather than a chicken little. We need more Musk like frauds. I enjoy using the fraud's Starlink system when I'm off grid. I have no doubt you could go on. I also have no doubt you live alone.
Lol, you're entertaining, that's for sure. I certainly don't live alone. I'm glad you like supporting the fraud. He also wants to chip your brain with neuralink, which will integrate with gates' social credit network (patent 060606, cute huh) maybe you can support the homo thiel and his palantir, which when you combine all you will be completely, and thoroughly controlled, and tracked digitally which will be your prison! Enjoy it!! Make sure you read the comment section of this video portrayal of your future that your heroes are ushering in! You seem pretty gullible so you've probably already been chipped by the fake convid shots, make it a little easier for them! As harari says, "thanks to covid shots, humans are now hackable."
Right?! There is a lot more going on than drug running. When Trump moved the most advanced carrier group we have into the Caribbean, that was huge! And now I believe there are TWO carrier task forces in the Caribbean. That is an awfully small pond to station two carrier groups in. Drugs are the cover and public explanation. This goes much deeper as the above links discuss and also as discussed in Lara Logans interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA9OCusr64A
Now a full on blockade...will the Russians and Iranians or Chinese dare us to stop them? NPR will point to humanitarian aid being deprived to the suffering surely
I hope Elon will manage a way to own a majority of any stock once the company goes public, as well as a way to guard against a recent trend of Boards firing the CEOs who founded the companies and built their value.
My mom used to just threaten once, then quietly pull over and sit until order was restored. We knew to settle down asap, but guest children were often flabbergasted at an actual imposed limit.
We recently lost our 2000 Odyssey after taking it out to TX. I came home without a car. We have been shopping around and we finally settled on a 2023 Model 3, practically brand new with only 12k miles on it. It came with three months free of FSD.
I don’t use it every time I drive, but when I do I am blown away by the accuracy. It’s Jetson’s level sci fi for sure! Twice it brought me home using the expressway and doing everything proper right up to my driveway. Even the difficult merge onto our main road after the off ramp that is diabolical for any driver because of short merge lanes and new commercial construction. It handled it with ease. We were blown away with our mouths hanging open the entire time. This will be amazing for me as I age should I need it in my older years.
But you DO have to pay attention, and be ready to take over, because on the third expressway trip it was in the middle lane coming up to our exit and still hadn’t merged over to the right lane to be ready for the off ramp despite no cars nearby behind us in that lane. By the time that it put the blinker on, those cars had caught up and we were within 100 feet of the exit but not yet even in the right lane. I panicked and grabbed the wheel to swerve over because it was starting to switch lanes just before the overpass. I am pretty sure we would have either ended up in the ditch, (unlikely) or missed the exit and the car would have just taken us further out to the next exit 20 mins out of our way.
So it’s not perfect yet. And from what I read the update before the most recent Grok update broke that merging feature so that’s why it was perfect the two times before it and utterly failed that third time.
But believe me, Musk has indeed mastered auto self driving. Mastery is not the same thing as zero errors, but it’s darn close.
It also has fabulous design for regenerative braking. I’ve touched the break pedal just once this past month. It took some getting used to but I had the muscle memory of how to use the accelerator within a week.
I love my car. It drives amazing and better than any car I’ve ever driven, and way better than the sports car I used to own pre-kids back in 1990. I never cared for electric vehicles before because no one had really mastered them and they sort of scared me. But I sit here today loving that Tesla did it the best. I won’t have any real mechanical maintenance needs saving TONS of money, and charging is easy with the home charger as well as the superchargers nearby. No high gas costs. Brakes are replaced maybe twice in the 300-500k miles the car is good for. Wiper fluid is my only concern. 😆 I love that.
I’m glad mine is not a hybrid. It defeats the purpose of having next to zero maintenance costs. I’m not pro EV for environmental reasons, I’m pro EV for my pocketbook reasons. 🤣
Next to zero maintenance costs? I've owned a Kia hybrid for over two years now. I do scheduled oil changes. I've had zero other maintenance costs It goes 600 miles on a single tank of gas/battery (it has averaged 37.4 MPG since buying it new) and it recharges its battery pack along the way - where a Tesla goes 275 if you are lucky and drive carefully? Around town it runs more on the battery pack than on the gas engine. Have you done an accurate accounting of how much it costs you per month to charge and re-charge it?
But perhaps the worst part about the Teslas is that you have to find a charging station and sit there for long periods of time while it gets sufficient charge to go to the next charging station.
I stop at a gas station for 5 minutes and have 600 more miles of range.
The hybrid is the best of both worlds.
Not saying Tesla does not have some great tech, just saying I will not buy one as long as it's battery powered only.
We can agree to disagree. Two years of maintenance costs is not enough to form an argument. We owned our last car for 25 years before it coughed up its soul. The maintenance cost over its lifetime of just 240,000 miles was many several thousand, almost repurchasing the damn thing. Not having all those engine and oil and exhaust and transmission systems to maintain, that DO eventually rust and break, is a huge savings you won’t see in just 2 years. Teslas can go 250,000 miles before needing any maintenance at all. That’s the lifetime of my last car and saving ALL those maint costs.
Teslas are getting more mileage per charge with each new model year. Pretty soon they will go 500-600 mi before needing a charge if you’re someone that drives really long distances like that as a norm. And there are charging stations EVERYWHERE, plus an adapter that allows you to use non-Tesla stations. It’s not as problematic as you paint it to be, but then never having owned a strictly electric only car how could you? All you have is your imagination to judge by. I agree that there is convenience to having hybrid, but it a much bigger cost in the long run.
If I take a cross country trip, Tesla plots navigation showing where all the superchargers are and when we will need them. The convenience is amazing. The other day I charged while shopping and came out to a full charge, then the next week we had dinner while it was charging, and both times it was wayyyy faster than the estimate given.
But we don’t take long trips regularly. Local driving is 99% of our life. My husband is an electrician, so the cost of installing the home charging station is only the charger itself, so yeah there would be an additional installation cost for someone who isn’t an electrician but it definitely would pay for itself in no time. The actual electrical draw is less than $10/month on our bill to keep a consistent 80% charge. That convenience of home charging makes this smarter than any other car for our needs.
Sorry to just be responding, I had other stuff to get done.
Go back to my original statement. I said I wouldn't own a battery only Tesla, ever. But I would consider one if Musk would make a hybrid. I stick by that. But if you want one, by all means you can have it and if it fits your lifestyle, then perfect.
Kia has been making hybrids, and cars in general, for several years, as I said it gives you very good mileage and the cars have a proven maintenance record. I bought it after looking at a variety of hybrids and found that it was the best choice based on the total car, not just the battery and electric motor. I was and am surprised by the quality and technology of the car, was not expecting it. In the 2.5 years I have owned it, it has proven itself, and well beyond my expectations.
You might want to become a Tesla sales rep with that post!! :-)
But if you do, know the facts. Here are some:
"Cost Breakdown by Model
Battery replacement costs vary by model and battery size (kWh), as larger capacity batteries are more expensive. The estimates below are for out-of-warranty replacements and include parts and labor from a Tesla service center, unless otherwise noted.
Tesla Model Estimated Replacement Cost (USD)
Model 3 $10,000–$16,000
Model Y $11,000–$16,500
Model S $13,000–$22,000
Model X $13,000–$25,000"
So. you probably should do what I do with my airplane for its TBO. I set aside money each month to pay for a new powerplant when it hits it's TBO (Time Between Overhaul). Try selling an airplane which is at or beyond its TBO, nobody wants it with a "worn out" engine. Similarly, I'd expect the same from anyone buying a Tesla with an old battery pack, nobody is going to want it, or at the minimum you are going to take a huge depreciation if you dont put a new battery pack in. So, Minimum of 10k in 2025 dollars and yours is two years old. Better start saving for the big maintenance charge, now.
It sounds like you use yours for only around town which is a good use for an electric only car, kinda like a golf cart on steroids - just kidding. But you must not drive it much to have only a $10 per month electric bill for it.
As for charging stations, that's a whopper to say they are everywhere, gas stations are everywhere, not charging stations. They will never be as ubiquitous as gas stations - thankfully we got rid of the cretins who were forcing us to go to electric because of their bullshit created crisis of climate change -they are lunatics - anyhow, your route will largely be determined by where you have to stop to charge and for how long. And, here's what you will actually be paying to charge it. This is where a hybrid or gas only will leave the Tesla's in the dust - it's quite a leap to say they are going to get longer range - without significant more cost.
"In 2025, the cost to charge a Tesla battery pack from empty (0%) to full (100%) typically ranges between $11 and $23 at home, depending on the model and battery size. Charging at a public Tesla Supercharger is significantly more expensive, with costs often ranging from $24 to $70 for a full session due to higher per-kWh rates and potential additional fees.
Estimated Cost per Full Charge by Model (2025)
Calculations are based on a 2025 U.S. national average residential electricity rate of approximately $0.17 to $0.19 per kWh and account for roughly 10% energy loss during the charging process.
Tesla Model
Battery Capacity Est. Home Charge Cost Est. Supercharger Cost
Model Y (All Trims) 75 – 78 kWh $10.98 – $15.95 $17.81 – $42.75
Model S / X (All Trims) 100 kWh $14.63 – $18.90
If you break a motor and it has to be replaced, expect:
An out-of-warranty Tesla motor (drive-unit) replacement typically costs between $5,000 and $9,000 when done by Tesla, including parts and labor. Independent shops may offer slightly lower costs, around $4,000-$6,000, depending on the repair or if a used part is used.
Finally, you paid a premium to purchase the car as compared to a comparable hybrid or gas car.
Anyhow, enjoy your Tesla, I hope you get good service from it and never get any salt water on your battery pack!!
I’d also recommend to buy used, 2-3 years old, no older. They depreciate by almost half in the first three years. We couldn’t afford brand new costs, so had to forfeit the improved charge longevity (we have a 260 mi charge vs the 350 of a new one….) and the improved shock absorption or whatever it’s called that improves the smoothness of the ride and its noise. So there will always be some new improvement you have to forfeit to buy used BUT those improvements aren’t worth the extra $25,000-$30,000 (unless you’re fancy rich and can afford the luxuries in life.) When you look at it like that suddenly you love what you get in a used Tesla. We basically got equal to what you get new except for that extra charge distance and improved suspension. Since we installed the home charger, losing the new extra 100mi distance wasn’t a big deal for us. And everything else we got is identical to a brand new Model 3 since most of it is controlled by the software.
I’d also recommend buying used direct through Tesla only. Their prices are pretty much fixed based on year but only fluctuate by $500 at a time based on mileage. And the longer they go unsold they keep lowering the price by like $500-$800 until sold. God blessed us with a literal steal but we did have to move fast with our down payment when we found it. Another buyer was just getting ready to place a down payment when we showed up to see it. Because of the low mileage, we would have easily paid $8-10k more through used car sites or other dealers. We looked it up and compared and that was what we saw. Mileage really inflated the Teslas. The used car market plays all sorts of games with pricing that Tesla doesn’t. And the fact that they are basically certified by Tesla is highly valuable too, but it doesn’t inflate the price. Certification of a used car through other dealers or Carmax, etc., increases the sale price by $7-10k. None of those games are played with Tesla. Their salesman also are salaried and don’t earn commission. It’s amazing how nice it is to not have the added pressure of car salesman tactics interfering with your purchase, a game I have always hated.
And just to let y'all know I had to go to the hospital this last weekend... And I was only there for 2 days... thank God I'm out! But it's still bad if you ever have to go to the hospital be aware☣️☢️☠️ they're going to do what they want to do how they want to do it and when they want to do it even if you're just in the emergency room! Please please please read up on your rights before you go.
. You really don't have any rights in the hospital anymore seriously, but I did and I still had a terrible experience! But I did get better enough to get home as fast as I could! I'm better now that I'm home! LOL God is so good!
The first thing that I ran into is the biogenetic stuff that they want to do bio engineering it might say bioengineering, or biogenetics that they use biogenetics so my husband did not know to cross that out. I was vomiting too much and passing out nothing about sickness! I was offered vaccines even though on my record it shows that I'm allergic to all vaccines cuz I did have the terrible reaction to the covid poisonous shot. They still tried to push them on me! So be aware be aware..☢️☠️. Go on the front line website they have a wonderful package for you on there to read to be ready to go to the hospital if you ever have to go.
God protected me this time! I learned to call on God and he helped us! Praise him! ⚓👑💥💙💜🦋🔥
With billions of injected vaccines each year how could anyone possibly be sick?
It’s sometimes easy to think we’re not making much of a difference. Everyday we wake, we get the family going, we go to work, maybe help a friend, just our normal routine. The truth is most of life is ordinary. We should never think though, our everyday actions don’t make a difference. Everything we do matters, not just the big things, but the small everyday acts we do. A smile, a kind word, a phone call to a friend that’s struggling, these are the things that have the greatest impact on others around us. In Mathew 10:42 Jesus says whoever gives even a cup of cold water to one of my disciples, will be rewarded. This meaning even a small act of kindness done will be noticed and rewarded.
When you go the extra mile at work, even something that goes unnoticed, your hard work, faithfulness, dedication, and the sacrifice you make, is noticed by God. Nothing we do goes unnoticed by him. These moments may seem ordinary but these are the things that have the biggest impact on the people we touch.
Yesterday’s discussion made me think of when my mother passed away. I don’t miss the big things she did, it was all the small things. Every morning we would sit, have coffee and just talk. I missed that the most. I missed her encouraging words helping me to move forward, her positive message telling me I could succeed, her smile. I never realized at the time that those small ordinary moments were the things that I would miss the most. We should always be aware that it’s these small things we do everyday that have the greatest impact. My mother passed away 33 years ago and I still grieve the loss. This shows that grief has no timeline. J.Goodrich
Thank you James. One more quote regarding the rest of your wonderful comment:
“It is the greatest of all mistakes to do nothing when you can only do a little. Do what you can.”
Agree with you totally, James. God is watching, always, and is very keen on how we conduct ourselves in both good times and especially bad. He could end all of this with a snap of his fingers but that would defeat the point. It has never been about win or lose, but how we conduct ourselves during these trials and tribulations.
"Grief has no timeline." So very true. My father died 36 years ago in 1989. We were very close and I miss him every day. My mother died almost 10 years ago and that still hurts too. You never get over the loss, although you learn to live with it. Things are never the same.
Yes! So easy to forget this or give up because our full schedule makes it so easy to make excuses. Loved this! "When you go the extra mile at work, even something that goes unnoticed, your hard work, faithfulness, dedication, and the sacrifice you make, is noticed by God. Nothing we do goes unnoticed by him. These moments may seem ordinary but these are the things that have the biggest impact on the people we touch." Such a good reminder that all we do should be to the glory of God and not our own acknowledgement.
HEALTHCARE will NEVER become affordable. How many times do we need to remind ourselves that the vast million-headed hydra* is sickness care NOT health care
Are we more interested in the PROBLEM?
... or, in the SOLUTION?
The solution is clean food, fresh air, daylight, non toxic clothing ... i.e. PREVENTION.
* A hydra is a type of small freshwater animal, a genus of cnidarian, that's known for its ability to regenerate its body parts. It's like a tiny, multi-headed worm with tentacles. In mythology, the Hydra is also a legendary creature, a serpent-like monster that can grow multiple heads back when one is cut off.
Exactly. Current medical care has been built on a completely false paradigm of toxic drugs and surgery - for PROFIT. It's a con job for your money and now the entire medical establishment was co-opted to engage in a genocide plandemic and bio-weapon deployment. The medical establishment has lost all legitimacy and is morally bankrupt.
With notable exceptions, medical doctors are now the opposite of the Hippocratic Oath. .........................................................................................
“Death by doctor” goes global in 2026
Death by doctor is not painless, peaceful and dignified – on the contrary, it’s painful, horrifying and cruel, Dr. Vernon Coleman writes.
Instances of prolonged and distressing deaths are frequent, with a high incidence of vomiting, re-awakening from coma and prolongation of the dying process – some people take up to seven days to die.
This is not hyperbole.
A study performed in the Netherlands showed that in 21 of 114 cases, the patient did not die as soon as expected or woke up, and the doctor had to “kill” them for a second time.....
Then shall all the trees of the forest exult before the Lord, for he comes: he comes to rule the Earth. Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good, for his kindness endures forever; and say “Save us, O God, our savior, gather us and deliver us from the nations, That we make give thanks to your holy name and glory and praising you.” Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, through all eternity! Let all the people say, Amen! Alleluia.
—“Republicans will not vote for more Obamacare subsidies, thereby pretty much triple-dog-daring the media to spend the next two weeks crying about healthcare affordability.”
Of course they’re completely oblivious to and/or ignoring the fact that Obamacare subsidies have done NOTHING to make healthcare more affordable 😡
Problem is, we don't have a health care system. We have a disease management system all to support big pharma and others. This system needs a total gut and start over. RFK will have a big part in this. We can't even dream of being healthy if our food, land, water, air is poisoned, which it is. Republicans do not seem to have any plan to put forward. We are just dicking around. I personally think the system has to entirely collapse. We start from the ground up. There are some things in place from the holistic community but they are expensive. We need more holistic thinking and health care with reasonable cost. Remember the body wants to be healthy. It will do everything in its power to be healthy if we just give it the right stuff. That said, we will have to wade through all the chronic diseases that we have created and fostered. There is hope and it will take commitment.
Medicare will not even pay for a Vitamin D test, probably the best predictor of the health of your immune system. They are now charging the absurd amount of $235, when a home kit to do it yourself was $65 last year, but has now been jacked up to $100. My wife keeps saying Jeff and his family get sick more than anyone she knows. I suggest the family invest in vitamin D kits. Should be at least 50, preferably 70, and over 90 if you have cancer. Ours stays above 90.
So I hesitate to write this and I certainly don't have a dog in this fight (if indeed that's what it is) and I myself am supposed to take a Vitamin D3 supplement on a daily basis to improve my Vit D levels (but which have always tested within the normal range).
BUT after reading a long but fascinating substack article (written almost 2 years ago!) and watching an almost hour-long webinar video (from 3 years ago!) and linked to in that substack article... Not only have I stopped taking those Vit D3 supplements but intend to take them to a "Prescription drug disposal drop" at a nearby CVS/Walgreens/etc.
As far as testing vitamin D levels goes, according to MedlinePlus.gov, those are synonymous with tests for the presence of "Cholecalciferol" (or in the case of vitamin D2, "Ergosterol"). And as Dr. Cowan points out in his video, "Synthetic Vitamin D is not a Vitamin at all. It's actually a mislabeled steroid hormone".
So when/if you get a chance, check out the links to both the article (1) and the video (2) here:
(1) Agent131711's Substack, Feb 01, 2024
Vitamin D is Rat Poison: The FRAUDULENT WORLD OF SYNTHETIC VITAMINS
A deep dive into what Synthetic Vitamins actually are. A shocking look at Vitamin Industry corruption and fake tests leading to us micro-dosing ourselves with poisons in the name of "health".
We do not have a "disease management system", we have a "disease creation system". It works on the same idea of any created crisis. It starts with poison vaccines pumped into tiny arms and continues with "wellness" care - and more "vaccines" - where they always seem to find something else wrong which they need to treat you for with more of their "medicines". Which continually make you sicker and them wealthier. A vicious circle of increasingly bad health for us and wealth for them.
God gave us everything we need in the natural world - including powerful natural immune systems - and we should stick to eating, and medicating, from it to keep our immune systems strong.
He did not give us processed food and drink which make people fat and unhealthy. Yes to holistic solutions.
Yes to getting in the gym or some kind of daily regime to get yourself in shape and stay there.
Oh I agree. That’s definitely part of the reason why it’s NOT affordable to prevent and treat illnesses and disease. The whole system if you can even call it that is such a mess and so counterproductive (at least for those is is *supposed* to serve!) 😕
Mary, you are exactly right on all your points. I recently listened to an organic farmer from Scotland I believe, stating, " why do I have to LABEL my food? My carrots should just be called carrots and the chemically fertilized, pesticide sprayed should be labeled "chemical carrots." Because prior to WWII all food was "organic."
But obvomit care did provide free medical care for the millions of illegals brought in by autopen and his traitorous regime. Ending that free ride - on your's and my tax dollars - and the massive SNAP fraud - again on your's and my tax dollars - are just two of the many great accomplishments of this President.
"Several Republican members of Congress have defied their own party and joined Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries in pushing for an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies.
Despite strong objections from Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson, four different Republican members signed a petition led by Jeffries that would force a vote on extending Obamacare subsidies for another three years, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Rep. Mike Lawler of New York, along with three other Republicans from Pennsylvania swing districts — Brian Fitzpatrick, Rob Bresnahan, and Ryan Mackenzie — all supported the Democratic measure."
Thanks again, RINOs. Between RINOs in the House, and blue slips and the silent filibuster in the do nothing - except hinder Trump - Senate, its less likely any of the 100 EOs will become codified law.
Good news, I read this morning the House passed the bill without the ovomit care subsidies. But it still has to get through the corrupt and contemptible Senate with it's supermajority of uniparty scumbags.
Hey Speaker Johnson: 11% reduction in the cost of our health insurance plans is NOT “affordability.” Gut Obamacare and replace it something that works. Republicans need to demonstrate “competence,” not incremental changes on Democrat’s programs!!!!!
It boggles the mind that people can't see obamacare for the fiscal disaster it has been. As a healthcare provider, and a consumer of a once great but now unaffordable employer based insurance plan, I have seen nothing but surging costs, reduced personal choices (forced vaccinations by insurance plans,hospitals) and "one size fits all" "healthcare" destroy what was once merely tiresome and overwrought into a disaster of epic proportions. People need to wake up to what has happened.
Obamacare was a nightmare for two reasons:
First, it made buying insurance a law (a tax), removing any notion of marketplace competition. Many insurers stopped selling in various states based on local regulations and costs, further limiting choice, at least the illusion of choice. With government subsidies, insurance companies could raise rates and or gut policy features at will. Any congressman that thinks a 60/40 plan is viable insurance needs to be bitchslapped. These useless policies are a road to bankruptcy from a single medical crisis.
Two, Obamacare masked and delayed solving one of the single largest issues with “healthcare” namely out-of-control-costs and complete lack of transparency. Insurance companies are complicit in this game, but with Obamacare, they had even less incentive to force down costs, even hiding some hospitals that charge exorbitant amounts over others in the same area. Prior to Obamacare, my premiums had jumped in the 20% range every 18 months from 2004 to 2014. It was a game of switching providers and cutting services, usually going to an increasingly higher deductible. The markup on services, especially diagnostics is/was outrageous. For example, our research clinic had a state of the art blood lab, that could run samples on two hundred patients in a morning. We sold these services for less than $6 for a full blood and chem panel. Labcorp charged my insurance provider something $105+ for the same panel, “negotiated” down from $250+. That was 15 years ago. Prices have gone way up. Eliminating Obamacare is a good first step, but more must be done. Trump negotiating way lower drug prices is a first practical step.
Obamacare was supposed to be only partially effective--and to end up being an argument for "just having the Government do it already."
The biggest reason is because it was supposed to be. It was really just a money maker for him.
I just wonder HOW they'll go about giving big harma and the medical cartel handouts for the next 20 years.
They (pharma and the medical industrial complex) swung for the fence and won during covid. They peaked, raking in unheard of profits on an experimental product with massive side effects. A scheme that required across the board censorship and medical staff compliance. That ship has sailed. Plus, the optics are terrible and getting worse, so unless there’s a change in the administration, the next three years will only downtrend in growth and profit. Could be wrong.
That won't stop the congress critters and the aristocrat chamber from doubling down on a bad decision. It's not over until the political parasites have squeezed out the last kickback, subsidy and lobby dollar.
“it made buying insurance a law (a tax)” as does Medicare and I resent THE HELL out of having to buy a plan based on our €ucked up healthcare system that I will NEVER use
I think it's like 60% or 70% of Americans who have employer provided insurance, Medicaid, or Medicare. That's why Obamacare is so 'popular' - the vast majority of us don't have it and don't need to shop for something else.
To be clear, when the ACA 'went live' in 2013, I was unemployed and my temporary insurance plan was cancelled. I was forced to sign up for ACA. I didn't qualify for subsidies, so I got a plan through Blue Cross/Blue Shield. There was 1 plan (for a single person) with 3 levels of premium/deductible, Bronze, Silver or Gold. It's the same today. My premium went from $100/month to $250/month and the deductible tripled. That's cheap compared to today. Luckily, I started a new job the next month. I'm no fan of Obamacare, and the ACA wrecked health insurance for everyone. I'm just pointing out that it's popular in America, because most of us aren't forced to shop for health insurance.
GOP needs to get govt out of healthcare, period paragraph.
All politicians. Insurance shouldn't exist. Get rid of insurance companies and doctors charge reasonable prices for care. Never happen because of corruption (money) in it. Every doctor i talk to would like to get rid of insurance but they won't do anything about it.
If you go to a car repair shop for a particular repair (spark plugs, for example), they have a list of set costs that include projected labor time, parts, etc. However, if you go to a doctor or hospital, there are a gazillion different costs for the same thing. If you have insurance, your cost for a procedure is negotiated down far below what you would be charged if you had NO insurance and paid out of pocket! And how much you pay depends on your insurance company and plan. I would like to know why various treatments could not be a set price everywhere and reasonable prices so that people could basically pay for them personally. Doctors and hospitals would not have to go through the ridiculous billing process. Then to cover beyond the usual and typical little problems people have (colds, flu, strep throat etc), people could carry affordable catastrophic health insurance to cover really terrible events that might happen.
When people have and pay for big insurance plans that cover virtually every little scratch, I've read discussions of how they go to the doctor MORE and clog up waiting rooms and doctor time unnecessarily to get their money's worth. In other words, if people had to pay for the little things themselves, they might not go to the doctor so much.
There could also be a small clinic system attached to pharmacies where you could go for very small things and be seen by a nurse practitioner and be prescribed necessary meds right there. And the costs would be reasonable so people self pay. Other countries apparently have this.
I had a hernia surgery a few years back. I saw the original bill that was sent to Medicare and my secondary at something like $19,000. As this bill worked through their idiotic billing system, and Medicare decided what it would pay, the final bill ended up at $1,400. It just seems crazy that the bill was ever $19K, to be honest. I could have paid $1,400 without too much pain, but $19K is a different matter.
YEP - transparency in pricing and costs of healthcare services just never happened
And it MUST
Exactly how it should work. The total amount charged for my back surgeries from 2010-2015 at Cedars Sinai in Los Angeles was $793,946.37, the approved amount for payment was $118,060.94
I watched the same pattern in dentistry. Dental insurance has made dentistry unaffordable.
I agree. We have dental insurance and it barely covers a cleaning
Peel back the onion one layer deeper. Insurance exists to protect against catastrophic events. In case of health care, it’s a doc or hospital being $ financially ruined for ‘malpractice’.
The way to bring healthcare costs down is to place a $ cap on doctor / hospital $ liability, otherwise known as tort reform. Most of our legal community wouldn’t like this, as it puts a good portion of them out of work.
Big Pharma was granted 100% immunity from the jabs. We don’t need to do the same for doctors / hospitals. However, we could place reasonable limits on how much they can be sued for when they screw up.
Do this, and insurance costs go south. And the cost of healthcare follows.
Docs don’t like insurance because it costs so much.
Interesting side note. The foundations of the modern insurance industry lie w/ the Knights Templar. Who agreed to ‘protect’ the belongings of Christians when they undertook a pilgrimage (like the Camino walk) which in centuries past could take years to complete, and anyone with the means wanted to undertake.
I see insurance like government. We don't need it. It's a farce. The whole system is backwards. They are public servants so we should know everyrhing about them. We are private citizens they should know nothing about us. Insurance drove up the cost of everything because they refused to pay what doctors were billing, which used to be reasonable. Then doctors started inflating because they knew it would get "negotiated" down to what they hoped to get. Then they tricked everyone into believing rhey needed it, and under certain admins you had to have it or you were punished financially. No one should be forced to pay for something. Maybe they don't want to go to the hospital? Maybe they're ok with dying. Maybe they are large earners or saved well and can pay for their care. Maybe in the event of something catastrophic they oay a payment plan?
Doctors are 0w3nd by insurance companies who have "wrapped up" the overwhelming masses of patient-customers. "Campaigning against our plan? Surprise: you are now off the list of 'approved doctors' for our ocean of patients in your town. Good luck with the move." Doctors have told me they have "no idea" what their service is "worth" because the insurance companies have multiplied deals within deals so that "only they, really, know."
And both are controlled by the politicians becauee there is so much money in it
At this point I wouldn't mind if they got "healthcare" out of healthcare. It's expensive but really not worth much.
But employer provided healthcare is through the roof too! If employers have to pay stupidly high prices for health insurance, they can’t afford to hire or keep as many employees.
The costs that employers pay is driving our wages/salaries down, and nobody talks about that aspect because most people aren't aware of it.
the premiums for mediocre to terrible services are a way for employees and employers to pour tens of billions into insurance companies and subvert American productivity and investment. Great for executives and stocks of "Healthcare" providers, yet all we hear from Democrats and the Pharma-Insurance-Medical Lobby is we need to INVEST ever more into "Care" for better service and affordability.
Our company offers employee and family full coverage at no cost to the employee. Our plans have gone up 12–18% every year since obamacare. This year we went with the plan with out-of-pocket doubling. Told employees it’s either this or we don’t offer coverage at all and made sure they know exactly why.
My wifes employer (very big investment firm with lots of $) stopped covering insurance years ago and everytime she gets a raise, they increase her cost. Thousands per month for a family of 3 and we rarely go so we never use it and if we do we never meet any deductibles. Insurance is a big scam, almost as bad as nasa.
Correct, the majority of Americans are not on the ACCA, but we ALL pay for it!
Even if on Medicare you have to have a medi gap policy + RX plan. Both cost extra. Its only good point was that everyone must be accepted by the insurance companies regardless of pre existing conditions.
Plus the doctors are forced to follow protocols.
They can't think for themselves, or try to make us healthy.
Im sure the Obamas/Clintons made a lot of affordable $$$$ on the ACA....
There’s a solution no one is talking about and it’s health sharing companies like Samaratin Ministries. But, insurance companies don’t want people to know about them and they work very hard to try to pass legislation to make them go away!! Samaratin pays 100% after your first $1,000. Everyone should be researching it and leaders at the top should be talking about it. It’s not a scam like Obamacare and you can go to any Dr you want!! There are about ten or 15 different sharing plans out there. I highly recommend. I’m 62 and pay $360/month! I can go to any Dr I want!!
As a 78 y.o. senior on a very fixed income, I could not afford to pay $360 a month. I live in Cali.
Too bad they discriminate against non-Christians. 360/mo isn't really affordable anyway so, no huge loss I guess.
People CAN see that obamacare is a disaster. They just can’t admit it.
I pay $15k a year for a health insurance policy with a $10k out of pocket and 60/40 split up to $150k - it’s hardly “health insurance” and more of a $15k/year discount card: It re-prices all the specialists and treatments/imaging to more reasonable prices that I pay out of pocket. Pre-Obamacare I was paying $500(?)/month for a catastrophic plan. Now, as a self employed individual, I bend over (ouch!) for government dictated health insurance. 11% savings? Puuuulllllleaaassssse!
I was there too until I turned 65. And I treat Medicare as catastrophic care. I find health care elsewhere.
I have medicare now as someone 65+. I, too use it as catastrophic care. I was uninsured for 90% of my life. Blessed with good health, no conditions or meds. *I am an alternative, licensed health care provider, 30+ years. I have a great network of providers if I need to think through any issues. So. 😉
I like the “elsewhere” idea - where to start is my question???
read, read, read. Naturopaths, chiropractors, functional medicine. There is not easy path and it's not inexpensive. I have an interesting chiropractic appointment tomorrow. Stay tuned.
I probably spend less than 1K/yr on my healthcare, including all ingredients, herbs and gadgets. I agree, it's constant self education and self treatment. So worth it though.
Same here. I use supplements as both a preventative and a cure.
Me too Pat
Spot on, FT.
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Why? I don’t pay for any insurance. Seems like a waste of money.
I don’t know how we are going to tame the insurance companies which take 30% of every healthcare dollar. My mother gets an injection in her eye every three months for macular degeneration. The medicine they use was once used for some intestinal disease, cancer, I think and used to cost about $50 for the amount of medicine that they are using. They turned it into an injectable for the eye and started charging something like $2300 per shot. Luckily, my mother qualifies to receive it directly from the drug company. I looked at her Medicare bill for her trip to the doctor every three months, and the provider billed Medicare almost $8000 !How?????
Here is another interesting fact. If you spent $1 million every day, it would take over 100,000 years to equal our national debt. I found this hard to believe, so I whipped out the calculator, and it’s true.
There are several great doctors online who discuss the marvels of DMSO and Jim Humble’s MMS (now has a new name bc someone couldn't handle the term “Miracle” Mineral Supplement. Both are fabulous for macular degeneration.
Thank you!
A Midwestern Doctor has written extensively about DMSO on substack. https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/dmso-heals-the-eyes-and-transforms
I have read some of that, but I have never come across a protocol with instructions as to how to make the solution on how to administer it. I know it’s tricky for a doctors to give online medical advice.
Healing with DMSO
By Amandha Vollmer
I would like a protocol for eye care with dmso
https://rumble.com/c/DMSOStories
Do eye doctors know about this?
One might wonder, do eye doctors want to know about DMSO? (or any other less-costly product)
I doubt it. Might end their lucrative business.
Probably not; but if they do, I doubt they would promote its use since it would end their lucrative eye injection business.
Do eye doctors care?
To your point about 100,000 years at the rate of $1M per day, my favorite formula- no longer easily found on the internet, interestingly- is this one:
If you were paid a dollar per second
Every second, every hour, every day,
It would take around 37,000 years to bring in *$1 trillion*.
When I hear that the USA’s debt is quickly approaching $40T, or the global debt load exceeds $330T, it’s clear to me that there is zero chance any principal will ever be reduced, and that it’s highly likely there will be a financial reset, which is likely to be mighty painful.
Above my pay grade what that reset might look like, I just think about the pain of household debt…
with all the fraud being exposed lately, I wonder why Americans have to pay this debt as it is likely almost all theft
jewel, excellent point!
Unfortunately, they will try to unleash centralized digital currency on us, and our society will be much closer to that of communist China. Bye-bye freedom.
Not taking sides here just providing some potential 'facts'. Take a look at this chart and you will have to go to #40 to find United HealthGroup, a Dow Jones top 10 company, to find net profit margin. Now, United Health Care is a subsidiary of UHG so, the net profit might be higher for that subsidiary. With a 4.3% net profit margin, I'm not sure how you get 30% of every healthcare dollar. I would like to see some documentation on that figure. I worked for a smaller health insurance provider when the state required insurers to be not for profit. Our operating margin i.e. what we had left after paying medical claims was in the 3-4% range. That is what we had to pay the company expenses e.g. salary, benefits, building lease, etc... Lots of other companies with much higher net profit margins and nobody seems to be upset about those. Anyhow, healthcare costs are a serious concern, but there are many places to point blame and improve, including consumer habits. Just sayin'.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-worlds-most-profitable-companies-in-2025/
This just demonstrates what an utter racker all these things are. Very disheartening.
There are red light and Rife treatments for mac d as well as DMSO.
Another strong recommendation to look at DMSO for macular degeneration. There are at least two very good books describing how DMSO works for so many ailments. Also The Midwestern Doctor substack includes many discussions about DMSO.
Health Insurance: Thank you for calling it what it almost is. More specifically it is insurance for very limited forms of medical treatment options that will be denied if at all possible. Probably the only way to get the actual cost of the actual care down is to eliminate the insurance completely. A side-benefit to this is that the care will improve with more options. Perhaps afterward we could work toward eliminating the entire licensing process.
It always seems to me that the ultimate purpose of any insurance company is to evade paying out as much as possible.
Nailed it.
𝐷𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑆𝑝𝑖𝑛 by Wendell Potter. Former top PR (spin) guy at Cigna. Kid from an impoverished family in eastern KY or TN that "made it." Until his life was falling apart - drinking, smoking, failing marriage - and he had an epiphany when back home for a visit he went to a local health fair where people were waiting in long lines in the rain to be seen for health care in animal stalls. Turned whistleblower. 𝐷𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑆𝑝𝑖𝑛 is his freshman book; he has others. Also a substack if I'm not mistaken. His life is now about truth telling and working to change the system. High marks for the dude swimming upstream.
My hope here is the ripple effect. Never give up. We, The People, are God's army. We are the only ones that will save us.
PASIEOAC = push all senior insurance executives off a cliff…
That’s what that Luigi guy who took the CEOs life in 2024, apparently had in mind. I absolutely do not endorse your sentiment.
What actually should happen at the same time Obamacare is deleted, is to prevent health insurance companies from being publicly traded. Access to the capital markets taken away, they would have to renegotiate all provider contracts to build in profits based on competence and effectiveness. Painful move, but necessary. A whole lot of powerful people would lose their grift, too.
well the healthy working classers subsidize the wealthy overseers to dole out mediocre services to all so that we destigmatize the wealthy healthcare and that which under-documented, uninsured, lesser employed, underserved persons and their food-scarcity deprived children receive
I was just thinking about how we pay $600 a mo for a $1500 deductible plan and this is considered affordable! Not play on ACA words. I remember when $600 a mo was outrageous and most paid $200-$300 a mo!
You can have Energy Density Frequency Medicine for about 3 months of your insurance payments. Then YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SICK FOR MORE THAN 10 MINUTES in most cases. https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/a2759efb-0c6e-4577-b6c8-6a3c4fa5ed6b
BOOM!!! there it is!
Well said. We're all drowning in insurance debt and it needs a smart whack up side da head and put back in line along with medical costs and we need to be rid of these goofy (not the Disney character) PBM's, TPA and all the rest of the minutiae that exists between us and our healthcare dollars.
Later Jay
The real answer is to let the market drive down medical prices.
This requires PRICE TRANSPARENCY from start to finish.
Doctors and hospitals must publish exact price lists and charge everyone the same exact price for the same service regardless of insurance.
Insurance companies must give instant coverage responses and complete menus of what exactly is covered and how much so it doesn't take two weeks on the phone to find out.
All medical bills must become legally invalid unless the patient agreed to exactly those charges in advance, in writing, with documentation of exactly how much insurance will cover.
Emergency bills must be limited by law, because there can be no market in emergencies.
This is normal in all other industries. Restaurants provide menus. Why should doctors and hospitals be exempt from providing menus?
Once people can EASILY shop for the best quality price combination from insurers and providers, the problem will solve itself.
But the AMA, insurers, et al are determined to continue to obfuscate and lobby to prevent the market from working.
https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform
And an increase in Medicare monthly from $185 to $206.50 is not good either.
Frequency Medicine WORKS and it's CHEAP! All you have to do is CHANGE the LAWS to make it legal for doctors to use it!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP
It was used to CURE CANCER in a clinical trial in 1934. Read about it in Barry Lynes book, The Cancer Cure that WORKED.
I use the Energy Density version every time I get sick (every year) and I'm well in less than ONE HOUR!
They won't. Paul Ryan had years to draft a replacement. But failed. Johnson is Ryan Lite.
Good morning, everyone! Jeff Childers, I hope you and your household get well soon and enjoy the longer than expected holiday time together! Thank you for your daily email!!!
I called my financial advisor in 2018 and told him I wanted to invest in Space X. I was embarrassingly informed that it was a privately held company. That it may be going public SOON has been beautiful music to my ever impatient ears! What the status quo cannot accomplish in decades, Musk makes happen In mere months. Private sector vs. public. Innovation vs bureaucratic stagnation.
2025 was an incredible shift shaper of a year. I predict 2026 will be epic…I cannot even BEGIN to imagine what is on the horizon, but I am eager to find out.
Merry Christmas to all!!
*edited for grammar…
Musk is a fraud. He stole tesla and he doesnt send anything into space, nor does nasa. It's a multibillion dollar demonic grift of cgi fakery. If his tesla floating in orbit (even musk said, "it has to be real, look how fake it looks." If that doesn't clue you in, I suggest you go back and look at all the pictures of what supposedly fit in the first rocket, crew, rover (i particularly love the upsode down umbrella on the rover, real high tech,) food, equipment, etc. How did they get footage from the moon of it landing, if that was the first moon landing? How, without internet, cloud or anything else do they have pictures of it the very next day for all of the newspapers? Why are armstrongs boot prints different then what they show him wearing in the rocket? I could go on, but no one can get passed the firmament, aka van allen belt.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mpav8H224MS5
And I saw how NASA is the largest purchaser of helium and hydrogen in the world. They use it for sending up balloons masquerading as satellites. I have seen videos of even giant rocket boosters made of a balloon; one collapsed as it was tied to the scaffold. The easiest one to debunk is the supposed return "landing" of a SpaceX rocket, totally bogus, and Bezos' capsule with all the women sent into "space". The media shows it and the public believes it.
But I like Musk, he is supporting Trump, so he is supporting our war against the deep state. I know, some will argue with that.
So NASA bought some shit. Okay, conspiracy proved! It's settled. Geeze.
Oh, please! Have you ever been to a "CGI" launch in person? I have, the last space shuttle launch. You can't CGI physical vibration in people a mile away unless you want to drift into co-conspiracy theories where they're attacking with the C1A's "heart attack" laser weapon.
Stay in your lane. I'm as big a conspiracy-aware person on the planet, and there's nothing of the fraud you claim there with space.
Just because you don't understand it and you've researched it on the web does NOT make you an expert. Geeze!
/rant off (until the loonies start back up).
For the love of God, please go deep dive the real conspiracies where you personally experience the fraud-indicting facts.
Its all fake, demonic crap founded by woernher von braun, and l ron hubbard scientology due which is why all their missions and everyrhing else are osiris and other babylonian names. I understand it really well. It's fake. Jusy because you don't get that, i'm not out of my "lane." If you thi k nasa and their space missions are real, I feel sorry for you. There's plenty of proof out there. Or just keep your head buried in the sand, doesn't affect me at all. Your government lies to you about everything, not just this or that. EVERYTHING.
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Yahweh is my light and my salvation;
Whom shall I fear?
Yahweh is the strong defense of my life;
Whom shall I dread?
— Psalm 27:1 LSB
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I was your first "like" this morning, when I was not able to make any comments or replies, lol. Thank you for using the true Name of the Creator.
I was waiting patiently for the comments to be unlocked. 😀
A Boy Learns a Lesson, By Thomas S. Monson
As Christmas approached my tenth year, I longed for an electric train. The times were those of economic depression, yet Mother and Dad worked hard and purchased for me a lovely electric train.
Christmas morning bright and early, I thrilled when noticing my new railroad fleet. The next few hours were devoted to operating the transformer and conducting its operation as the engine transported goods to needful places forward and backward and all around the track.
Mother had also purchased a wind-up train for Widow Hansen’s boy, Mark, who lived down on Gale Street. Inspecting it, I noted a tanker car which I much admired—my railway clients, afterall, had much need for fuel. I put up such a fuss that my mother succumbed to my pleadings and surrended it. With excitement, I attached it to my train and delivered a full tank of natural gas to a grateful dispensary. “Their customers will be warm this Christmas night”, I mused triumphantly.
Later, Mother and I took the remaining cars and engine down to Mark Hansen. The young boy was a year or two older than I. He had never anticipated such a gift. He was thrilled beyond words. He wound the key in his lock, it not being electric nor expensive like mine, and was overjoyed as the engine and three cars, plus a caboose, went around the track.
I felt a horrible sense of guilt as I returned home. The tanker car no longer appealed to me. Suddenly, I took it in my hand, plus an additional car of my own, and ran all the way down to Gale Street and proudly announced to Mark, “We forgot to bring two cars which belong to your train.”
I don’t know when a deed had made me feel any better than that experience as a ten-year old boy, I have carried it with me, as if a warm glowing memory on a dark freezing night, ever since
As a mother very proud of my two, I can imagine how your mother must have felt. Such a valuable lesson and a confirmation that you have a conscience and acted on the right thing to do.
Thank you for saying so, Calgon. Alas, this was not written by me (although i did embellish it), but by, Thomas S. Monson, whose mother, Ive little doubt, was as proud of him as you allude.
You are also kind. I'll bet your mother taught you the same lessons.
Lovely, thank you!
YEESSS
Wishing the Childers a speedy recovery from their antibody building experience. Awesome to have a POTUS working hard on our economy, as opposed to talking about it. We need more Elon Musks.
He, along with all politicians, is a fraud.
Musk is a fraud. He stole tesla and he doesnt send anything into space, nor does nasa. It's a multibillion dollar demonic grift of cgi fakery. If his tesla floating in orbit (even musk said, "it has to be real, look how fake it looks." If that doesn't clue you in, I suggest you go back and look at all the pictures of what supposedly fit in the first rocket, crew, rover (i particularly love the upsode down umbrella on the rover, real high tech,) food, equipment, etc. How did they get footage from the moon of it landing, if that was the first moon landing? How, without internet, cloud or anything else do they have pictures of it the very next day for all of the newspapers? Why are armstrongs boot prints different then what they show him wearing in the rocket? I could go on, but no one can get passed the firmament, aka van allen belt.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mpav8H224MS5
Propaganda and really stupid
Truth and if you don't get that everything the government has e er told you is a lie, I feel sorry for you. Guess who re-wrote history? Rockefeller. The same guy that poisons you with medicine. Ghislane maxwells (yes the pedos accomplice) father, Rovert Maxwell was a mossad spy that owned Pergamon Press (pergamon, satans altar) printed schoolbooks for america. Go on youtube and look at all the bad cgi nasa videos where they drop tools and they don't float. Also stanley kubrick, before death made a video admitting he filmed it in hollywood. Now nasa has the largest movie studio in existence. Why does a space agency need a movie studio? Even Armstrong said, "We never went to the moon, we faked it." He was just joking right!? Astronaut petit said nasa lost the technology to go to the moon." This has all been proven. It's all a lie. Dinosaurs,globe earth, Spanish flu, kansas flu, moon landings, convid, blah blah blah, lies, lies, lies. Boy you believe anything, i bet you watch a lot of tv. The ones that watch tv, and participate in politics are the most gullible people I've ever met. Those frequencies really work, on the eeak-minded.
You feel better now? It's you I feel sorry for. Yes, some things *have* been faked. But not all. Since you just decided to throw everything into the fake basket, nothing is real for you. And that is just as bad as what you accuse others of. Discernment is a learned skill. And worth cultivating. Deciding everything is fake is lazy. And just because you read it on the internet doesn't make fakery accusations any more real than the things you cite. Then again you have always enjoyed poking at people, so maybe you are just a Chinese bot...
So become a fraud, rather than a chicken little. We need more Musk like frauds. I enjoy using the fraud's Starlink system when I'm off grid. I have no doubt you could go on. I also have no doubt you live alone.
Lol, you're entertaining, that's for sure. I certainly don't live alone. I'm glad you like supporting the fraud. He also wants to chip your brain with neuralink, which will integrate with gates' social credit network (patent 060606, cute huh) maybe you can support the homo thiel and his palantir, which when you combine all you will be completely, and thoroughly controlled, and tracked digitally which will be your prison! Enjoy it!! Make sure you read the comment section of this video portrayal of your future that your heroes are ushering in! You seem pretty gullible so you've probably already been chipped by the fake convid shots, make it a little easier for them! As harari says, "thanks to covid shots, humans are now hackable."
https://youtu.be/Gy7FVXERKFE?si=EoP5busv-C5Zvk3-
We're hyped on all the hoped-for successes ...
(political, cultural, economic)
... may they all come true
And may our moral fiber keep pace ... otherwise it's all for naught
A fascinating read:
Election Cartel Whistleblowers Revealed: Gary Berntsen & Ralph Pezzullo
NOW YOU KNOW WHY THERE ARE VESSELS OFF THE COAST OF VENEZUELA
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/election-cartel-whistleblowers-revealed
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and also:
https://thecitypaperbogota.com/global/ex-spychief-hugo-carvajal-warns-u-s-of-maduros-narco-terrorist-regime/
I have been saying the same thing. Elizabeth Nickson has been talking about it for awhile. Glad to see others are catching on.
https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/the-electorate-isnt-5050-the-real
Right?! There is a lot more going on than drug running. When Trump moved the most advanced carrier group we have into the Caribbean, that was huge! And now I believe there are TWO carrier task forces in the Caribbean. That is an awfully small pond to station two carrier groups in. Drugs are the cover and public explanation. This goes much deeper as the above links discuss and also as discussed in Lara Logans interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA9OCusr64A
Now a full on blockade...will the Russians and Iranians or Chinese dare us to stop them? NPR will point to humanitarian aid being deprived to the suffering surely
I hope Elon will manage a way to own a majority of any stock once the company goes public, as well as a way to guard against a recent trend of Boards firing the CEOs who founded the companies and built their value.
Yes, we don't want Fink et al swooping up majority stakes.
But will a Grok-enabled Tesla have the facility to reach around and smack me when I ask -for the umpteenth time- Are we there yet?
Will it threaten to stop the car if it hears one more peep?
My granddaddy used to say, “I’m gon get back there WITH y’all if you don’t straighten up!”
One day my cousin piped up, “Who’s gon DRIVE, Granddaddy?”
(Bet you can tell which part of the US we’re from just by reading that.)
The South!
BINGO!! 😝😝😝
My mom used to just threaten once, then quietly pull over and sit until order was restored. We knew to settle down asap, but guest children were often flabbergasted at an actual imposed limit.
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Tesla stock is worth every cent.
We recently lost our 2000 Odyssey after taking it out to TX. I came home without a car. We have been shopping around and we finally settled on a 2023 Model 3, practically brand new with only 12k miles on it. It came with three months free of FSD.
I don’t use it every time I drive, but when I do I am blown away by the accuracy. It’s Jetson’s level sci fi for sure! Twice it brought me home using the expressway and doing everything proper right up to my driveway. Even the difficult merge onto our main road after the off ramp that is diabolical for any driver because of short merge lanes and new commercial construction. It handled it with ease. We were blown away with our mouths hanging open the entire time. This will be amazing for me as I age should I need it in my older years.
But you DO have to pay attention, and be ready to take over, because on the third expressway trip it was in the middle lane coming up to our exit and still hadn’t merged over to the right lane to be ready for the off ramp despite no cars nearby behind us in that lane. By the time that it put the blinker on, those cars had caught up and we were within 100 feet of the exit but not yet even in the right lane. I panicked and grabbed the wheel to swerve over because it was starting to switch lanes just before the overpass. I am pretty sure we would have either ended up in the ditch, (unlikely) or missed the exit and the car would have just taken us further out to the next exit 20 mins out of our way.
So it’s not perfect yet. And from what I read the update before the most recent Grok update broke that merging feature so that’s why it was perfect the two times before it and utterly failed that third time.
But believe me, Musk has indeed mastered auto self driving. Mastery is not the same thing as zero errors, but it’s darn close.
It also has fabulous design for regenerative braking. I’ve touched the break pedal just once this past month. It took some getting used to but I had the muscle memory of how to use the accelerator within a week.
I love my car. It drives amazing and better than any car I’ve ever driven, and way better than the sports car I used to own pre-kids back in 1990. I never cared for electric vehicles before because no one had really mastered them and they sort of scared me. But I sit here today loving that Tesla did it the best. I won’t have any real mechanical maintenance needs saving TONS of money, and charging is easy with the home charger as well as the superchargers nearby. No high gas costs. Brakes are replaced maybe twice in the 300-500k miles the car is good for. Wiper fluid is my only concern. 😆 I love that.
If he'd make some hybrids, I'd buy one. Not buying one as long as they are only battery powered - ever.
I’m glad mine is not a hybrid. It defeats the purpose of having next to zero maintenance costs. I’m not pro EV for environmental reasons, I’m pro EV for my pocketbook reasons. 🤣
But it's equal to riding in a microwave. Extremely bad for your health.
Tesla doesn't make a hybrid - wish Musk would.
Next to zero maintenance costs? I've owned a Kia hybrid for over two years now. I do scheduled oil changes. I've had zero other maintenance costs It goes 600 miles on a single tank of gas/battery (it has averaged 37.4 MPG since buying it new) and it recharges its battery pack along the way - where a Tesla goes 275 if you are lucky and drive carefully? Around town it runs more on the battery pack than on the gas engine. Have you done an accurate accounting of how much it costs you per month to charge and re-charge it?
But perhaps the worst part about the Teslas is that you have to find a charging station and sit there for long periods of time while it gets sufficient charge to go to the next charging station.
I stop at a gas station for 5 minutes and have 600 more miles of range.
The hybrid is the best of both worlds.
Not saying Tesla does not have some great tech, just saying I will not buy one as long as it's battery powered only.
We can agree to disagree. Two years of maintenance costs is not enough to form an argument. We owned our last car for 25 years before it coughed up its soul. The maintenance cost over its lifetime of just 240,000 miles was many several thousand, almost repurchasing the damn thing. Not having all those engine and oil and exhaust and transmission systems to maintain, that DO eventually rust and break, is a huge savings you won’t see in just 2 years. Teslas can go 250,000 miles before needing any maintenance at all. That’s the lifetime of my last car and saving ALL those maint costs.
Teslas are getting more mileage per charge with each new model year. Pretty soon they will go 500-600 mi before needing a charge if you’re someone that drives really long distances like that as a norm. And there are charging stations EVERYWHERE, plus an adapter that allows you to use non-Tesla stations. It’s not as problematic as you paint it to be, but then never having owned a strictly electric only car how could you? All you have is your imagination to judge by. I agree that there is convenience to having hybrid, but it a much bigger cost in the long run.
If I take a cross country trip, Tesla plots navigation showing where all the superchargers are and when we will need them. The convenience is amazing. The other day I charged while shopping and came out to a full charge, then the next week we had dinner while it was charging, and both times it was wayyyy faster than the estimate given.
But we don’t take long trips regularly. Local driving is 99% of our life. My husband is an electrician, so the cost of installing the home charging station is only the charger itself, so yeah there would be an additional installation cost for someone who isn’t an electrician but it definitely would pay for itself in no time. The actual electrical draw is less than $10/month on our bill to keep a consistent 80% charge. That convenience of home charging makes this smarter than any other car for our needs.
Just curious, but when you use the Tesla superchargers what does that cost?
JuJu,
Sorry to just be responding, I had other stuff to get done.
Go back to my original statement. I said I wouldn't own a battery only Tesla, ever. But I would consider one if Musk would make a hybrid. I stick by that. But if you want one, by all means you can have it and if it fits your lifestyle, then perfect.
Kia has been making hybrids, and cars in general, for several years, as I said it gives you very good mileage and the cars have a proven maintenance record. I bought it after looking at a variety of hybrids and found that it was the best choice based on the total car, not just the battery and electric motor. I was and am surprised by the quality and technology of the car, was not expecting it. In the 2.5 years I have owned it, it has proven itself, and well beyond my expectations.
You might want to become a Tesla sales rep with that post!! :-)
But if you do, know the facts. Here are some:
"Cost Breakdown by Model
Battery replacement costs vary by model and battery size (kWh), as larger capacity batteries are more expensive. The estimates below are for out-of-warranty replacements and include parts and labor from a Tesla service center, unless otherwise noted.
Tesla Model Estimated Replacement Cost (USD)
Model 3 $10,000–$16,000
Model Y $11,000–$16,500
Model S $13,000–$22,000
Model X $13,000–$25,000"
So. you probably should do what I do with my airplane for its TBO. I set aside money each month to pay for a new powerplant when it hits it's TBO (Time Between Overhaul). Try selling an airplane which is at or beyond its TBO, nobody wants it with a "worn out" engine. Similarly, I'd expect the same from anyone buying a Tesla with an old battery pack, nobody is going to want it, or at the minimum you are going to take a huge depreciation if you dont put a new battery pack in. So, Minimum of 10k in 2025 dollars and yours is two years old. Better start saving for the big maintenance charge, now.
It sounds like you use yours for only around town which is a good use for an electric only car, kinda like a golf cart on steroids - just kidding. But you must not drive it much to have only a $10 per month electric bill for it.
As for charging stations, that's a whopper to say they are everywhere, gas stations are everywhere, not charging stations. They will never be as ubiquitous as gas stations - thankfully we got rid of the cretins who were forcing us to go to electric because of their bullshit created crisis of climate change -they are lunatics - anyhow, your route will largely be determined by where you have to stop to charge and for how long. And, here's what you will actually be paying to charge it. This is where a hybrid or gas only will leave the Tesla's in the dust - it's quite a leap to say they are going to get longer range - without significant more cost.
"In 2025, the cost to charge a Tesla battery pack from empty (0%) to full (100%) typically ranges between $11 and $23 at home, depending on the model and battery size. Charging at a public Tesla Supercharger is significantly more expensive, with costs often ranging from $24 to $70 for a full session due to higher per-kWh rates and potential additional fees.
Estimated Cost per Full Charge by Model (2025)
Calculations are based on a 2025 U.S. national average residential electricity rate of approximately $0.17 to $0.19 per kWh and account for roughly 10% energy loss during the charging process.
Tesla Model
Battery Capacity Est. Home Charge Cost Est. Supercharger Cost
Model 3 RWD ~60 kWh $11.35 – $12.00 $15.00 – $32.78
Model Y (All Trims) 75 – 78 kWh $10.98 – $15.95 $17.81 – $42.75
Model S / X (All Trims) 100 kWh $14.63 – $18.90
If you break a motor and it has to be replaced, expect:
An out-of-warranty Tesla motor (drive-unit) replacement typically costs between $5,000 and $9,000 when done by Tesla, including parts and labor. Independent shops may offer slightly lower costs, around $4,000-$6,000, depending on the repair or if a used part is used.
Finally, you paid a premium to purchase the car as compared to a comparable hybrid or gas car.
Anyhow, enjoy your Tesla, I hope you get good service from it and never get any salt water on your battery pack!!
Thank you for that thoughtful and thorough review & recommendation!
I’d also recommend to buy used, 2-3 years old, no older. They depreciate by almost half in the first three years. We couldn’t afford brand new costs, so had to forfeit the improved charge longevity (we have a 260 mi charge vs the 350 of a new one….) and the improved shock absorption or whatever it’s called that improves the smoothness of the ride and its noise. So there will always be some new improvement you have to forfeit to buy used BUT those improvements aren’t worth the extra $25,000-$30,000 (unless you’re fancy rich and can afford the luxuries in life.) When you look at it like that suddenly you love what you get in a used Tesla. We basically got equal to what you get new except for that extra charge distance and improved suspension. Since we installed the home charger, losing the new extra 100mi distance wasn’t a big deal for us. And everything else we got is identical to a brand new Model 3 since most of it is controlled by the software.
I’d also recommend buying used direct through Tesla only. Their prices are pretty much fixed based on year but only fluctuate by $500 at a time based on mileage. And the longer they go unsold they keep lowering the price by like $500-$800 until sold. God blessed us with a literal steal but we did have to move fast with our down payment when we found it. Another buyer was just getting ready to place a down payment when we showed up to see it. Because of the low mileage, we would have easily paid $8-10k more through used car sites or other dealers. We looked it up and compared and that was what we saw. Mileage really inflated the Teslas. The used car market plays all sorts of games with pricing that Tesla doesn’t. And the fact that they are basically certified by Tesla is highly valuable too, but it doesn’t inflate the price. Certification of a used car through other dealers or Carmax, etc., increases the sale price by $7-10k. None of those games are played with Tesla. Their salesman also are salaried and don’t earn commission. It’s amazing how nice it is to not have the added pressure of car salesman tactics interfering with your purchase, a game I have always hated.
Are the batteries not terrible for your health? I’ve read in a couple of reliable places that theu wreak havoc on your jody. I forget the specifics.
Jeff Childers, are the comments limited somehow this morning?
It looks like they’re limited to paid subscribers…oops! I’m sure he’ll fix it soon :).
Ha! That means we can get a head start on everyone else 😆😁
And just to let y'all know I had to go to the hospital this last weekend... And I was only there for 2 days... thank God I'm out! But it's still bad if you ever have to go to the hospital be aware☣️☢️☠️ they're going to do what they want to do how they want to do it and when they want to do it even if you're just in the emergency room! Please please please read up on your rights before you go.
. You really don't have any rights in the hospital anymore seriously, but I did and I still had a terrible experience! But I did get better enough to get home as fast as I could! I'm better now that I'm home! LOL God is so good!
The first thing that I ran into is the biogenetic stuff that they want to do bio engineering it might say bioengineering, or biogenetics that they use biogenetics so my husband did not know to cross that out. I was vomiting too much and passing out nothing about sickness! I was offered vaccines even though on my record it shows that I'm allergic to all vaccines cuz I did have the terrible reaction to the covid poisonous shot. They still tried to push them on me! So be aware be aware..☢️☠️. Go on the front line website they have a wonderful package for you on there to read to be ready to go to the hospital if you ever have to go.
God protected me this time! I learned to call on God and he helped us! Praise him! ⚓👑💥💙💜🦋🔥
I’m sorry you went through all that! Prayers for continued healing and health! 🙏
A rare occurrence, indeed!
I "liked" your reply earlier when I could not comment or reply. Glad it's fixed.
I pay with my soul...
Jeff fixed it.
With billions of injected vaccines each year how could anyone possibly be sick?
It’s sometimes easy to think we’re not making much of a difference. Everyday we wake, we get the family going, we go to work, maybe help a friend, just our normal routine. The truth is most of life is ordinary. We should never think though, our everyday actions don’t make a difference. Everything we do matters, not just the big things, but the small everyday acts we do. A smile, a kind word, a phone call to a friend that’s struggling, these are the things that have the greatest impact on others around us. In Mathew 10:42 Jesus says whoever gives even a cup of cold water to one of my disciples, will be rewarded. This meaning even a small act of kindness done will be noticed and rewarded.
When you go the extra mile at work, even something that goes unnoticed, your hard work, faithfulness, dedication, and the sacrifice you make, is noticed by God. Nothing we do goes unnoticed by him. These moments may seem ordinary but these are the things that have the biggest impact on the people we touch.
Yesterday’s discussion made me think of when my mother passed away. I don’t miss the big things she did, it was all the small things. Every morning we would sit, have coffee and just talk. I missed that the most. I missed her encouraging words helping me to move forward, her positive message telling me I could succeed, her smile. I never realized at the time that those small ordinary moments were the things that I would miss the most. We should always be aware that it’s these small things we do everyday that have the greatest impact. My mother passed away 33 years ago and I still grieve the loss. This shows that grief has no timeline. J.Goodrich
Condolances on your mother, James. I do not look forward to when my mom's day comes, but i will relish all the memories and delicious food.
"It's little things like this that later on in life you look back and realize were and are actually the BIG things."
Thank You TriTorch, I pray your mom lives many more wonderful years.
Thank you James. One more quote regarding the rest of your wonderful comment:
“It is the greatest of all mistakes to do nothing when you can only do a little. Do what you can.”
Agree with you totally, James. God is watching, always, and is very keen on how we conduct ourselves in both good times and especially bad. He could end all of this with a snap of his fingers but that would defeat the point. It has never been about win or lose, but how we conduct ourselves during these trials and tribulations.
"Grief has no timeline." So very true. My father died 36 years ago in 1989. We were very close and I miss him every day. My mother died almost 10 years ago and that still hurts too. You never get over the loss, although you learn to live with it. Things are never the same.
Yes! So easy to forget this or give up because our full schedule makes it so easy to make excuses. Loved this! "When you go the extra mile at work, even something that goes unnoticed, your hard work, faithfulness, dedication, and the sacrifice you make, is noticed by God. Nothing we do goes unnoticed by him. These moments may seem ordinary but these are the things that have the biggest impact on the people we touch." Such a good reminder that all we do should be to the glory of God and not our own acknowledgement.
HEALTHCARE will NEVER become affordable. How many times do we need to remind ourselves that the vast million-headed hydra* is sickness care NOT health care
Are we more interested in the PROBLEM?
... or, in the SOLUTION?
The solution is clean food, fresh air, daylight, non toxic clothing ... i.e. PREVENTION.
* A hydra is a type of small freshwater animal, a genus of cnidarian, that's known for its ability to regenerate its body parts. It's like a tiny, multi-headed worm with tentacles. In mythology, the Hydra is also a legendary creature, a serpent-like monster that can grow multiple heads back when one is cut off.
Exactly. Current medical care has been built on a completely false paradigm of toxic drugs and surgery - for PROFIT. It's a con job for your money and now the entire medical establishment was co-opted to engage in a genocide plandemic and bio-weapon deployment. The medical establishment has lost all legitimacy and is morally bankrupt.
With notable exceptions, medical doctors are now the opposite of the Hippocratic Oath. .........................................................................................
“Death by doctor” goes global in 2026
Death by doctor is not painless, peaceful and dignified – on the contrary, it’s painful, horrifying and cruel, Dr. Vernon Coleman writes.
Instances of prolonged and distressing deaths are frequent, with a high incidence of vomiting, re-awakening from coma and prolongation of the dying process – some people take up to seven days to die.
This is not hyperbole.
A study performed in the Netherlands showed that in 21 of 114 cases, the patient did not die as soon as expected or woke up, and the doctor had to “kill” them for a second time.....
https://expose-news.com/2025/12/17/death-by-doctor-goes-global-in-2026/
This was an amazing story! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=870137348861905&set=pb.100075969446380.-2207520000&type=3
Health care is VERY affordable to those who are AWAKE. Read my other comments on this newsletter to wake up!
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Then shall all the trees of the forest exult before the Lord, for he comes: he comes to rule the Earth. Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good, for his kindness endures forever; and say “Save us, O God, our savior, gather us and deliver us from the nations, That we make give thanks to your holy name and glory and praising you.” Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, through all eternity! Let all the people say, Amen! Alleluia.
1 Chronicles 16:33–36.
Good morning C&C!
—“Republicans will not vote for more Obamacare subsidies, thereby pretty much triple-dog-daring the media to spend the next two weeks crying about healthcare affordability.”
Of course they’re completely oblivious to and/or ignoring the fact that Obamacare subsidies have done NOTHING to make healthcare more affordable 😡
Problem is, we don't have a health care system. We have a disease management system all to support big pharma and others. This system needs a total gut and start over. RFK will have a big part in this. We can't even dream of being healthy if our food, land, water, air is poisoned, which it is. Republicans do not seem to have any plan to put forward. We are just dicking around. I personally think the system has to entirely collapse. We start from the ground up. There are some things in place from the holistic community but they are expensive. We need more holistic thinking and health care with reasonable cost. Remember the body wants to be healthy. It will do everything in its power to be healthy if we just give it the right stuff. That said, we will have to wade through all the chronic diseases that we have created and fostered. There is hope and it will take commitment.
Medicare will not even pay for a Vitamin D test, probably the best predictor of the health of your immune system. They are now charging the absurd amount of $235, when a home kit to do it yourself was $65 last year, but has now been jacked up to $100. My wife keeps saying Jeff and his family get sick more than anyone she knows. I suggest the family invest in vitamin D kits. Should be at least 50, preferably 70, and over 90 if you have cancer. Ours stays above 90.
So I hesitate to write this and I certainly don't have a dog in this fight (if indeed that's what it is) and I myself am supposed to take a Vitamin D3 supplement on a daily basis to improve my Vit D levels (but which have always tested within the normal range).
BUT after reading a long but fascinating substack article (written almost 2 years ago!) and watching an almost hour-long webinar video (from 3 years ago!) and linked to in that substack article... Not only have I stopped taking those Vit D3 supplements but intend to take them to a "Prescription drug disposal drop" at a nearby CVS/Walgreens/etc.
As far as testing vitamin D levels goes, according to MedlinePlus.gov, those are synonymous with tests for the presence of "Cholecalciferol" (or in the case of vitamin D2, "Ergosterol"). And as Dr. Cowan points out in his video, "Synthetic Vitamin D is not a Vitamin at all. It's actually a mislabeled steroid hormone".
So when/if you get a chance, check out the links to both the article (1) and the video (2) here:
(1) Agent131711's Substack, Feb 01, 2024
Vitamin D is Rat Poison: The FRAUDULENT WORLD OF SYNTHETIC VITAMINS
A deep dive into what Synthetic Vitamins actually are. A shocking look at Vitamin Industry corruption and fake tests leading to us micro-dosing ourselves with poisons in the name of "health".
https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/vitamin-d-is-rat-poison-the-fraudulent
(2) Dr Tom Cowan: Is Vitamin D Friend or Foe?
Webinar from December 21, 2022 where Dr. Cowan discusses all things Vitamin D.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tTsDMYXktT3A/
No offense... but it sounds like Cowan is a Quack.
The anti-Vit D stuff has long been debunked.
They refused a C-rp blood test too... which is appalling.
VERY basic and necessary test... it tests inflammation, which is the basis of most serious issues... far more than the popular myth, LDL cholesterol.
Even my soon to be EX cardiologist is still buying that BS.
We do not have a "disease management system", we have a "disease creation system". It works on the same idea of any created crisis. It starts with poison vaccines pumped into tiny arms and continues with "wellness" care - and more "vaccines" - where they always seem to find something else wrong which they need to treat you for with more of their "medicines". Which continually make you sicker and them wealthier. A vicious circle of increasingly bad health for us and wealth for them.
God gave us everything we need in the natural world - including powerful natural immune systems - and we should stick to eating, and medicating, from it to keep our immune systems strong.
He did not give us processed food and drink which make people fat and unhealthy. Yes to holistic solutions.
Yes to getting in the gym or some kind of daily regime to get yourself in shape and stay there.
Oh I agree. That’s definitely part of the reason why it’s NOT affordable to prevent and treat illnesses and disease. The whole system if you can even call it that is such a mess and so counterproductive (at least for those is is *supposed* to serve!) 😕
Mary, you are exactly right on all your points. I recently listened to an organic farmer from Scotland I believe, stating, " why do I have to LABEL my food? My carrots should just be called carrots and the chemically fertilized, pesticide sprayed should be labeled "chemical carrots." Because prior to WWII all food was "organic."
It's time to flip the narrative.
RL,
But obvomit care did provide free medical care for the millions of illegals brought in by autopen and his traitorous regime. Ending that free ride - on your's and my tax dollars - and the massive SNAP fraud - again on your's and my tax dollars - are just two of the many great accomplishments of this President.
Or maybe I spoke to soon? From this article: https://www.westernjournal.com/several-house-republicans-side-democrats-attempt-extend-obamacare-subsidies/ :
"Several Republican members of Congress have defied their own party and joined Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries in pushing for an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies.
Despite strong objections from Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson, four different Republican members signed a petition led by Jeffries that would force a vote on extending Obamacare subsidies for another three years, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Rep. Mike Lawler of New York, along with three other Republicans from Pennsylvania swing districts — Brian Fitzpatrick, Rob Bresnahan, and Ryan Mackenzie — all supported the Democratic measure."
Thanks again, RINOs. Between RINOs in the House, and blue slips and the silent filibuster in the do nothing - except hinder Trump - Senate, its less likely any of the 100 EOs will become codified law.
Oh, I wonder if the four rinos are getting a subsidy, wink wink.
I'd say you can bet on it...
Ugh 😡
RL,
Good news, I read this morning the House passed the bill without the ovomit care subsidies. But it still has to get through the corrupt and contemptible Senate with it's supermajority of uniparty scumbags.
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