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Tonya's avatar

My favorite promotion of the covid shots is Pfizer's new commercial asking what all of these various celebrities have in common. The answer they give is, they all got their new updated covid shots. But the REAL answer is that they are all being paid - with money straight from your paycheck - to be "trusted messengers".

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FourWinds's avatar

I've seen that commercial and it ticks me off. I betcha the real thing they will soon all have in common is they drop dead. Of course I'm not wishing premature death on anyone. There were a few Pfizer commercials during the Browns game yesterday that were equally nauseating (I rarely watch TV, but Cleveland having a good season is a miracle in and of itself.) I thought man, this company is desperate for money. Clot shot sales must be down. Yay!

Unrelated, one of my pharmacists told a customer that the Moderna and Pfizer jabs "have the same medicine." A) it's not medicine. B) They aren't identical, and if they are, then this whole thing really is a conspiracy. Different companies don't magically create and patent new technologies at the exact same time during a "pandemic".

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rolandttg's avatar

Browns fan since I was 6, mainly for Jimmy Brown (since broke my heart when I saw on that 10 part Playboy expose he was a sexual predator) . But when they drafted that narcissistic human excrement Baker Mayfield with the first pick , I forever bailed. Forever bailed on the whole NFL when they started taking a knee. Only sports I watch any more is college football, and can't say I even miss it. Have a lot more time for other things.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I loved watching NFL football - BEFORE the "bending the knee" mania swept through its "sweat-stained halls". Now? I watch an occasional college basketball game - even college football is now "tainted with big dollars" since the players can accept "funding" from promoters and corporations. Very, very sad day for TRUE sportsmanship!!

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Bones's avatar

You’re doing the right thing to delete these absurd sports teams from your menu of activities

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STH's avatar

He’s counting on his customers ignorance.

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Karen's avatar

When will the Networks begin selling ads for caskets? At least let them be thinking of their choices.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

What was your first clue? 👆

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Ddm's avatar

Are the new flu and the rsv shots nRNA as well?

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FourWinds's avatar

RSV is, flu is not - this is my understanding from working in the pharmacy. That being said, they had planned a roll out of a flu shot with it in there, but it did not happen and they have delayed it till 2024.

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CStone's avatar

I’m pretty sure they are. From what I understand, they plan to put mRNA in all, even childhood, shots

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Kelly's avatar

I believe they are, but not positive.

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Mrs. Itoldya!'s avatar

More accurately: modRNA. Needs to be banned!!!!

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Flu shots not yet...but they will be next year.

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Annie's avatar

Did you see the one for "spikevaxx?" It is like they decided to incorporate the spike proteins into a power statement. Like yes you got spike proteins. That means it is working! My husband and I could not believe the commercial. If you get spikevaxx, you are certifiable.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

and again, another comment about main stream tv, which is why I don't watch. But thank you for taking the hit with tv, we do need to stay informed on the insanity that is main stream. It is always interesting reading these comments.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, I don’t have it either so it is always interesting to hear what is going on!

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Annie's avatar

Babylon Bee couldn't have done it any better.

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Karen's avatar

When I first saw it on facebook, I thought it was the Bee. I thought they couldn't have really used that name.

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Freedom's avatar

And My husband and I as well.

We do have an Apple box for an occasional documentary.

Family were over and watched a game and it seemed so alien to us, the noise, the language. The dumbing down is so obvious when you’ve been away for awhile.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. The only things I can usually stand to watch are food and decorating/house renovation shows if I can find them. It does seem alien and I always think, this confirms why we don’t have a TV now and never have.

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CStone's avatar

Even those are not real. They’re scripted and staged

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Karen's avatar

I've seen spikevax ads on my facebook feed. They didn't allow any comments, probably a wise decision on their part.

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Tonya's avatar

On the posts that do allow comments, like from some health departments or pharmacies, the comments criticizing them are much more abundant than those in favor.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

That is how I felt. Jaw dropping.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I saw someone on FB say, “I got five shots today. Do you think I’m crazy?” (The list included COVID, flu, shingles, and whatever else. I don’t remember.) Do I think that person is crazy? No, just stupid, but also virtue signaling. Also, if you have to ask others about whether they think you’re crazy to do something, you know what you are doing is not right. 🤷‍♀️

Just my two cents.

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Tonya's avatar

Besides covid, flu, and shingles, other shots they recommend for older adults are pneumonia, whooping cough, and RSV.

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Garden Lover's avatar

See, I don’t pay attention to all the shots they recommend. All of them are poison.

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Tonya's avatar

The only reason I know them all is that I hear all the commercials for them when my husband is watching football.

Also when I go to the grocery store with the in-house pharmacy.

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Garden Lover's avatar

Yeah, we don’t watch much TV anymore. When we do, which isn’t often, I tune out the commercials. Or we make fun of them.

I’m lucky that I only shop at Trader Joe’s, a local co-op, and the local farmers’ markets now. I rarely go to a market with an in-house pharmacy.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Awful

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Bones's avatar

It’s only good for one thing. Sticking in the heart of vampires.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And they all will probably experience a “suddenly and unexpectedly” sometime soon 😑

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

On Instagram yesterday? There was a bill gates thing for international toilet day. He was walking in the sewer system of??? Some place in the world. Europe? And he said "there are rats down here" I could not stop laughing at the irony.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Takes one to know one right? 😑

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Garden Lover's avatar

Why would he be in the sewer unless he was giving a tour of where he truly belongs?

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Hey WAIT! I thought that was the Illinois Gov Prikzter.

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Dawn's avatar

Another large rat🐀

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

that was awesome

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Alison Smith's avatar

I doubt they even took the vax.

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Tonya's avatar

It's hard to tell. Did they actually roll up their sleeves and take their chances? Or were there special lots just for the influencers?

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Alison Smith's avatar

Saline solution most likely.

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Garden Lover's avatar

My understanding is a number of them refused, but took the money to promote it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t know. Lots of people who I would’ve thought wouldn’t have taken the vax did. Lots of useful idiots in the entertainment world.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I’m always surprised by the number of “crunchy” Californians who got it. Doing it goes against all that makes a person crunchy.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think it’s because their crunchiness is only to follow the crowd, be trendy, not out of true principles. And they followed the crowd again on the shots.

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Garden Lover's avatar

Which is weird, because I have leaned towards crunchy since the 80s. Perhaps it’s because I embraced crunchy long before it was popular. It wasn’t what was popular but rather what was healthier. It drives the other side nuts when they try to pin their stereotypes on me because I don’t fit their mold. LOL

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Sharon's avatar

this is what I believe

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Annie's avatar

Not soon enough.

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OnTheJump's avatar

.....and all will be baffled by it.

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Carrie's avatar

I used to like Martha Stewart. She’s in one of those commercials, and she looks so annoyingly smug.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

My “favorite” advertisement is Moderna calling it the spikevax! NO JOKE.

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Ddm's avatar

And did you notice the list of side effects (or I should say lack of). They have hardly any? Very rare, possibly heart issue. That's pretty much it.

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Tonya's avatar

Of course the most common side effects will be things like fever, headache, chills, nausea, etc. Technically, 49% of people could DIE immediately after the shots, and they could still truthfully say that most people experienced mild side effects. VAERS has 114,668 reports of Serious Adverse Events. If if the underreporting rate is only 10× (many think it's around 30 for serious events), that means over a million people in the country had a serious event.

And although headache and nausea can be common and not considered serious, they are also the two warning signs of a brain bleed. Are your symptoms benign or deadly? You may never know because you already died.

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FourWinds's avatar

I haven't seen that one, but just... wow.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

If either Kelce or Swift are pushing a product, that's my signal to not go within 5 miles of it.

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Annie's avatar

As far as swifties go - do the opposite. 😉👍

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JW's avatar

I really think when there was a line of people getting brains that God must have run out towards the end and left many without one.

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

"social proof" - huge in modern advertising

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David C.Jones's avatar

…who were not required to take the shot to collect the dough, just signed an NDA and smiled for the camera.

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Garden Lover's avatar

As everyone has said, money, money, money. It’s been this way the entire pandemic. A number of the celebrities pushing it refused to get it. Look at the number that were able to travel to Europe and a variety of other countries despite the “lockdowns”. The whole “rules for thee but not for me” club. Politicians did it, too.

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rowantree's avatar

What they soon will all have in common is likely at least myocarditis if not worse.

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Over it's avatar

They’re also all dropping like flies!

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Jeff C's avatar

Kelce and Taylor Swift are the hot couple spontaneously showing up at NFL games and sucking up all the oxygen. The celebrity-obsessed vapid culture are completely smitten and they are everywhere. By sheer coincidence he's pushing Pfizer and Bud Light.

He's not a moron but a prostitute. It reminds me of ball players and Nascar drivers doing Viagra commercials. Just zero shame.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Candice Owens calls out Brazil for putting messages (for a Taylor Swift concert) on the Christ the Redeemer statue as an assault on Christian symbols that goes unchallenged by the Christian community.

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1726307953068900707

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Not surprising since most Christians cower in their closets instead of stand up for what’s right for fear they might offend someone. The Christian community in general has been brainwashed to believe turning the other cheek means to sit down and be quiet. The pulpit has preached parts of the Bible for decades. It leaves out the parts where ones stood up and did what was right in the face of much backlash and even to the point of them being murdered for doing what was right. 🤫 we don’t want to talk about that or we might have to be uncomfortable and give up our conveniences or worse….someone will yell at us or accuse us of being offensive or mean, or judging lest we be judged 😱. We can’t have that. 🙄

Let’s go back to sitting in church and being quiet while the world burns around us.

PS - I’m a Christian who doesn’t sit down and be quiet….like many others in this group. 💪🏻

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RunningLogic's avatar

They’ve more or less boiled down the idea of being Christian to a “Be Kind” sign in their yard 🙄

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Jeff C's avatar

"Be kind" would be an improvement as it's biblical! They usually say "be nice" as in don't offend anyone.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I went to a presentation at a non denominational mega church in my area last night featuring Uri Goldflam (former IDF and Israeli tour guide) who is touring the midwest on a Stand With Israel tour. The pastor's remarks were strong, saying "Critical Theory is destroying critical thought" in our nation, and that it is incumbent among Christians to speak out against the evil in this world. But he is also all in on this 'we are in the end times' rhetoric. Which many of my friends and acquaintances who embrace this more or less use that as an excuse to not get off their couches and ACT and get involved. Jesus said "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." So, to me, anyone pushing this narrative is a charlatan.

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

True, we don’t know the day or the hour, but we can know the season, and we can recognize the signs.

It’s also true that some are charlatans, and some are just unwise, and some use “we’re in the end times” as an excuse to do nothing and wait, like the Thessalonians who wouldn’t work because “Jesus is coming soon”. For others, though, the awareness that we are likely near the end brings peace in the midst of the uncertainty and negativity, a new compassion and boldness for our friends and family who don’t yet know God, and renewed sense of purpose in the world.

Anything, good or bad, can be used as a motivation to do good or an excuse to give up.

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Marie's avatar

I can’t like this post enough…truer words were never spoken.

We have forfeited all avenues of life to unbelievers in the name of…Christians shouldn’t be involved in this or that. Such as politics, the arts, school boards, education, etc. We’ve handed it all over to the “globists” and allowed this to happen and then we look around and ask…”how did this happen?” while we sit and wait for Jesus to return and rescue us from it all!

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Karen's avatar

God didn't call anyone to be a doormat to be walked on. Be bold and speak the truth. Someone help me, is nice and kind in the Bible?

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Karen's avatar

God didn't call anyone to be a doormat to be walked on. Be bold and speak the truth. Someone help me, is nice and kind in the Bible?

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Remember...we start getting ON FIRE for the Lord and His "Good News" we will be persecuted - so make sure you are ready for the onslaught, my dear friends!!

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Timbo Slice's avatar

There's a reason the "put on the full armor of God" is a staple in the Bible. It wasn't for the weak. It was for those who believe that standing up for God's principles is the true way of living for him. Against all evil.

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Peter GL's avatar

St John Chrysostomos (the Golden-mouthed) of the 4th century had said "When you are silent at the time when you ought to speak up, then not only do you make God your enemy but you also harm your brother"

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MsReid's avatar

Thankful my church does NOT sit and cower, but Christ DID say narrow the road is and most will follow the broadly travelled road instead.... or something like that.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Great to hear this!!! Thanks!

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GG's avatar

Or they'll take their toys and go home and who would the pastor preach to then? Personally, I think that's the biggest reason pastors don't teach the whole word.

In my old church, our pastor made a woman "small group pastor" and quite a few families left the church because "women can't be pastors." I dunno. She didn't preach to the small groups; she was the point of contact for small group leaders and she organized who would lead the groups and made schedules, picked out curriculum, etc. She would speak once or twice a year from the pulpit and I guess that's a line some people won't cross.

I understand Paul would not allow himself to be taught by women; I also understand that women were not educated in Paul's day, whereas Paul was highly educated, even for men of the time. But there were women in leadership roles throughout the Bible. I don't understand how we're supposed to work through doctrinal differences when someone leaves at the first sign of disagreement. We don't do that to our families, but we do it to our church family.

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Jeff C's avatar

Paul (or any of the other NT writers) didn't forbid women from being leaders in the church but specifically from the role of pastor (teacher) when it came to teaching men. The other prohibition is for Elders. There is no prohibition on women teaching women (as an example) or in women performing other church leadership roles.

There may have been some cultural reasons for this (such as pagan sex cult practices of the day with women in charge) but it's almost certainly to emphasize how God made men and women different, but complementary. We aren't the same, I can't have a baby as a glaring example. God gave us different roles but together we reflect His complete and perfect nature.

More practically speaking, in virtually every denomination that has accepted women pastors, it's been a very short journey to throwing out nearly every other biblical prohibition. Churches flying rainbow and BLM flags invariably welcome female pastors. It's happened in one denomination after another.

So is the reason that female pastors are more likely to embrace non-biblical heresy? Maybe that's part of it. More likely is that once there's compromise on one thing, it's that much easier to compromise on others.

That's why the female pastor thing is a show stopper for many of us. The Bible is unambiguous on this topic, it's reserved for men only. People may not like it, but that's what the book says.

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TB's avatar

It makes me wonder if the whole thing could have been avoided if only she had been titled a "small group administrator" instead of "pastor"... or even "deacon"; the Bible has women being referred to using the word for "deacon". I agree with Jeff C; the issue the Bible has is with woman as Elders or having 'authority' over men, not with just ANY role of service in the church.

(See also: Priscilla and Aquila, a married couple, jointly taught Apollos in Acts 18.)

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Carrie's avatar

I heard someone recently put it this way: God is good always/everything of God is good… but it doesn’t mean being “nice”

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Peter GL's avatar

I've heard that God answers all prayers. His answers may not always be what we want. They generally fall into four categories:

1. Yes

2. No

3. Not now, and

4. I thought you'd never ask!

He won't give us anything harmful, but also wants us to be clear with what we ask for.

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Becky's avatar

I’m currently trying to fathom the clear direction in the Bible to obey our rulers and those in government with authority over us. It’s quite clear. The best I can interpret it to mean is that Christians should not disobey the law, and should let God deal with unworthy rulers rather than take that task on ourselves. In the past I could do this, but now I struggle as we have illegitimate rulers and an accelerated and visible pace of corruption and tyranny. That existed in Christ’s time too.

Romans 13:1-7

Every person must obey the leaders of the land. There is no power given but from God, and all leaders are allowed by God. 2 The person who does not obey the leaders of the land is working against what God has done. Anyone who does that will be punished.

3 Those who do right do not have to be afraid of the leaders. Those who do wrong are afraid of them. Do you want to be free from fear of them? Then do what is right. You will be respected instead. 4 Leaders are God’s servants to help you. If you do wrong, you should be afraid. They have the power to punish you. They work for God. They do what God wants done to those who do wrong.

5 You must obey the leaders of the land, not only to keep from God’s anger, but so your own heart will have peace. 6 It is right for you to pay taxes because the leaders of the land are servants for God who care for these things. 7 Pay taxes to whom taxes are to be paid. Be afraid of those you should fear. Respect those you should respect.

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Curious what version this is from.

Because it sounds pretty watered down and may not be translated very well. Just a hunch. Because based on what that version says… Jesus should not have gone in and overturned the money changers in the temple, Paul should have stopped teaching about Jesus, Peter should have sat down and been quiet, Stephen deserved to be stoned, Daniel should’ve been eaten in the lions den, Shadrach Meshach and Abednigo should have been burnt to a crisp. Etc etc etc.

The whole counsel of Gods word. Not just one scripture or one portion. That is what I’ve been challenged with. The other thing I would say is that this country was founded upon a Constitution. That is our law of the land and our authority. The men that are elected are subject to US not the other way around. we rule over them not the other way around. We have been brainwashed to think it’s the other way around which has helped sit every Christian and Non Christian alike in a chair being silent. I do agree with obeying the law. Because the laws were passed even if passed by corrupt criminal tyrants. I have a duty to obey unless it goes against Gods Word. I have not been silent. I have risen up against all of this. I didn’t wear a mask. I didn’t get vaccinated. I didn’t let my kids read the smut in the schools just because the school said it was okay. And yet somehow I have not broken one law. 🤔 Many have risen up and are being unjustly punished sitting in prison…and they never broke one law. So do we sit in silence about it? It is that misunderstood portion of scripture (apart from the whole counsel of Gods word) that kept Christians silent while this country got taken over by criminals. The entire foundation of the USA was done by men who fought “their leaders” that according to this translation and this portion of scripture should never have been done. They should have just resigned themselves to the tyranny and succumbed to their peasant hood instead of fighting with guns to be free. Lots to unpack here.

I don’t claim to be 100% correct about all of this but what I do know is God is not putting in me a spirit of fear or a spirit of timidity. He has called me to stand up and fight for what is right and just. So I will. The end result is up to Him.

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Jeff C's avatar

Saw that too. Nothing is sacred in that it can't be profaned with mindless pop culture and commercialism. Or at least it appears mindless, it's actually a planned, systematic destruction of the Christian West.

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Emumundo's avatar

Al Gore found Christians problematic for his agenda and said Christians might have to be helped to a higher plane. Still waiting to see what the heck that means.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Well most find Al Gore problematic. Hence he didn’t make it into the White House. He still found another way to rich though.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

We are truly in the LAODICEAN era of the Church - and you know what Jesus said He would do with THAT "Church"!!

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Bubblehead's avatar

I'll try to find the middle ground - let's agree he is a moronic prostitute, shall we?

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Annie's avatar

You all are correct in your descriptions.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Just wrote pretty much the same thing before I read your comment 😆

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rolandttg's avatar

Bad analogy . Viagra usually works as claimed.

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Jeff C's avatar

Perhaps it does. My comment was aimed at the fact that self-respecting people don't advertise their sexual problems to millions of people just to make a buck.

Discretion is an extremely underrated virtue.

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Red Canyon Gal's avatar

Bob Dole advertised viagra, didn't he?

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Jeff C's avatar

He sure did, and included his obviously much younger wife (15 years younger) in the ad. Like I said, no shame.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Well, there is that. Originally hoped to be for blood pressure.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

lol, I wouldn't know.

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Fred's avatar

😆🤣

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OnTheJump's avatar

He pushing pfizer.....and she pushing "get out and vote (democrat)".

Lefties on social media are bowing at her feet for her efforts, singing her praises - some of the memes and posts are puke-worthy.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

& ignoring the young lady who died at a recent concert. Kielce must know Taylor will write mean songs about him when they “ break up “, it’s so fake and orchestrated!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

He has got to be the worst dresser in the world.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Some of his outfits are scary.

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LMWC's avatar

Then they belong together.

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STH's avatar

Policestatefilm.net

Police State is a very worthwhile movie by Dinesh D’Souza if you can find it.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Thanks, will check.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

I stopped watching pro sports five years ago. More and more confirmation of that decision

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Julie Ann B's avatar

They are both so impressed with themselves and love the attention they’re getting. Money and fame are their gods.

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Andie's avatar

It seems like their "relationship" is just a paid commercial

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Corkey's avatar

I think they both pray to a large statue of Mr Haney from Green Acres that is hidden in an undisclosed area somewhere. https://youtu.be/I-sT5vHnYNE?si=1lho-uzij8rNBXgV

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Fred's avatar

Only slightly OT, Damien Harris of the Bills’ who had a nonexistent “neck sprain” is still not on their roster, and no word on R. Douglas of the GB Packers who left the game in a cart looking seriously distressed with “shoulder pain.” My informant said he “went down” atraumatically on the sidelines first. IDK.

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Steve's avatar

Is Taylor Swift a “Positive,” or “Negative” influence -- you decide.

https://www.elitedaily.com/lifestyle/taylor-swift-fan-chants-eras-tour

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Jeff C's avatar

It's is impossible for anyone pushed by the entertainment-media complex to be a positive influence as it's specific intent is the destruction of social mores. At best they are neutral, and that's being extremely charitable.

It boggles my mind how many Christians fail to see this.

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Sharon's avatar

I so agree, can’t tell you how many at my church (including staff)were falling over each other to get tickets to her concert and praise her on social media.

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RunningLogic's avatar

The cultishness of it all is very off putting to me 😕

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Agreed

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

People like this…it’s like they’ve sold their soul.

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

I don't think that Nascar drivers are shameless for plugging Viagra, it's very stiff competition for enough sponsors to help get them up in the race, it's hard to find that kind of support and if it helps them maintain pole position it's all good...

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Al X. Griz's avatar

Kelce is almost as big an ignorant HO as Prime. I won’t buy anything he’s pushing either.

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Jeff C's avatar

I guess they aren't mutually exclusive in hindsight.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Embrace the “and” 😆 He’s a moron AND a prostitute!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I my gosh, I saw a commercial yesterday that was insane. Maybe it was Travis..don't know who he is, but I had to watch it because it was so so so bad. ' two things at once ad. Flu shot and COVID jab. All brains have left the station.

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Kitkat's avatar

I know a few people that took the "3-fer". Covid/Flu/RSV all together!

Add in the Shingles jab, and you glow in the dark---before you drop dead.

"Suddenly and unexpectedly."

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I also know of a couple who got the flu, covid and rsv shots at the same time. Their doctor said it was okay and the pharmacist agreed. I keep wondering, how stupid can people get? and they keep proving there is a higher level

of stupidity.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Maybe the experiment is to find how much a body can take before it shuts off permanently. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

You gotta remember when you see this stuff though. that my doc convinced me it waanokay to give my 2mo ALL 9 shots instead of getting the broken into two different visits. Luckily she did, or I wouldn't have seen the "minor" side effect of seizures after the 4mo shots and stopped completely because I knew I'd be playing Russian roulette at that point. she didn't think there were problems with continuing though. she would have given them if I'd been okay with it. so. doctors look at all the kids who are "fine" and say with a straight face that this is okay.

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STH's avatar

And now there’s data showing the duo increase your stroke risk even MORE.

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Elder of The Tribe's avatar

Yes it's ABSURD. I've witnessed people asking for this flu / covid jab at our local pharmacy. The techs and pharmacists repeatedly respond: 'There's no such thing'. A better commercial would be a short, cartoon version of how vaccines work, or how viruses mutate to survive, or both. But Pixar wouldn't the job....

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Gaye's avatar

You should have slid over beside them and said, “Ask for a loaded gun; it’ll be quicker.” Then wink.

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MaryAnn's avatar

😂

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Dr Linda's avatar

Yup, that was Teavis

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Baga's avatar

You can be sure he didn’t get either jab!

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Ddm's avatar

The new flu and covid booster, many people are getting really sick. An older gentleman my husband works with got so sick he finally has said no more. After how many boosters it scared him and I guess he realized this can't be normal. A college friend (62), got it recently and posted it really made her sick. A number of the comments said the same, but it just means your getting a better immune response. And she commented that she doesn't like getting the flu so she'll continue to get them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t get this. When they’re as sick as they’d be with the flu from the shots, how is it any different?? It just perplexes me.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Travis Kelce. Yeup

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

His heart is "bursting" with pride.

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OnTheJump's avatar

I am hearing Felix (Unger - ODD COUPLE?) singing " ... Happy, and Peppy, and Bursting with.... Pfizer!! "

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Oh my...blast from the past

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Dr Linda's avatar

Agreed, it’s pathetic. I used to think he was a duffus. Now I realize that he’s not only a duffus but a dangerous duffus.

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Annie's avatar

Shill. Big nasty shill. Has sold his soul for fame and fortune.

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rolandttg's avatar

Three times. He's dating satan's spawn too.

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Karen Bolt's avatar

Statins DON’T prevent heart attacks. They contribute to Alzheimer’s and liver disease.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

Anyone who reads this Substack needs to say NO if their doctor tells them they need to take statins.

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Bubblehead's avatar

I quit cold-turkey about 4 months back. The hell with them. I've read too many reports. Also, fired my doctor. The hell with them as well. Side note: I haven't felt this good in years!

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ChrisB's avatar

And then be prepared to be "fired" as a patient, or at minimum severely reprimanded, as my husband was, twice. Statins are the cash cow for docs, and they do not particularly like informed, questioning customers.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

Both my wife and I refused statins and we weren’t fired by the doctor but her recommendation confirmed that she is owned by pharma since she also tried hard to get us jabbed.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Agreed. I brought in a meta analysis of statins. It showed there could be a 4 day increase in lifespan with statins however the side effects did not off set a 4 day increase in life. My doctor didn’t argue but wasn’t happy.

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Fred's avatar

Link please, if it’s handy.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I knew I should have searched for it but was too lazy. I will get it posted.

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CStone's avatar

Fred!!!! I haven’t been on here much, so I missed you......glad to see you again🙃

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Bgagnon's avatar

Will you share a link for that meta analysis .... I'd like to share it with others! Thanks!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Right? Or you get a letter trying to convince you.

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Garden Lover's avatar

They are taught to prescribe drugs. For most, that’s pretty much it. There are a few good doctors, but they are hard to find and often have to give good advice on the sly for fear of reprisals. I haven’t met one yet, but I’ve heard stories about them. Do you think they’re a folk tale like Bigfoot? 🤪

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

When my GP tried to push the annual flu shot on my I always hissed and made the sign against evil to her. Then said sweetly, you know I don’t believe in that nonsense.

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STH's avatar

I told mine I LIKE to get the flu. It’s a guaranteed 5-10Lb Wt loss🤣 She hated me. So when she tried pushing the Covid jab knowing I had natural immunity, I fired her!

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Peace's avatar

Well, now I hope my doc asked if I want a shot so I can hiss and make the sign against evil to her - sounds satisfying! However, I must have a note in my file since she quite asking a couple of years ago:)

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

I should add I haven’t gone to a doctor in many many years now, except when I broke my ankle on the way to feed my chickens...that necessitated surgery. You can only imagine the pain in the a** I was when it came to masks etc. I proudly announced each time I was made to wear one that this mask, I am pulling from my purse, is the only mask I’ve worn during the entire Covid scam. When I work up from surgery they had thrown it away but no one was wearing a mask as they wheeled me out to the car. Small victories.

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Peace's avatar

Did the surgery include removal of said chickens? :)

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Karen's avatar

With my husband sitting beside me my doctor tried to talk me into getting various shots. After I told him he was wasting his time that I wasn't getting any shots, he never offered them to my husband.

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Karen's avatar

With my husband sitting beside me my doctor tried to talk me into getting various shots. After I told him he was wasting his time that I wasn't getting any shots, he never offered them to my husband.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Hahahahaha

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nik's avatar

😂 I love this ! Lol

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EJay's avatar

Docs who "fire" patients aren't docs...they're evil, immature imposters who are so scared...they only want hapless, pliable patients who blindly obey. Sorry excuse of a human that bears no resemblance to a capable care provider.

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Peter Schott's avatar

It's a mixed bag. There are some patients who are also just stubborn and won't do _anything_ the doctor says - even if the advice is "eat right, reduce refined carbs, and do some exercise that's within your capabilities". But I agree it's more likely the doctor doesn't want someone on the rolls who won't take their pills when ordered to. :(

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ChrisB's avatar

Exactly neither of those doctors prescribed anything but drugs. My husband was told he could have French toast for breakfast the day after his surgery. This was all them.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I told my doctor I wouldn’t take statins, I won’t take any vaccines, I won’t do mammograms and to please not continue to suggest it. She has respected my stance on these topics.

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Mcgeehee's avatar

Ask any man who would volunteer to have their testicles crushed between two metal plates with the same pressure as mammograms and watch mammogram enthusiasm exit the room. I've added colonoscopies to that list. I've joined Dr Mercola in stating I've never had and will never get a colonoscopy.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I don’t get colonoscopies either. Several reasons that would take too long to explain in this forum.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I won’t get them either. And colonoscopies are dangerous.

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axons007's avatar

ok - I'm with on 3 of the 4. and I'm almost with you on the 4th. Please help push me over the edge. I'm semi nervous to ditch the mammograms.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

There are plenty of articles on whether mammograms are necessary or not and ultimately every woman needs to decide what is the right decision for you. I did get them every year but in 2020 when I “woke up” to what was really going on in healthcare I began to question everything. (I’m a healthcare professional with 32 years of acute care hospital experience) I realized that with universal healthcare insurance, Obamacare, everything had changed. In order to survive, hospitals and clinics began to merge creating big healthcare systems. Every disease, hospitalization and surgery was coded and insurance dictated care and length of hospital stays. Most independent physicians and clinics couldn’t survive with all the new rules and regulations and most retired or joined system where they lost their autonomy to make decisions based on each patient’s history and unique situation. It’s become much less patient focused and individualized to where insurance is dictating patient care. What is the goal of insurance companies? Profits. Same with big Pharma. So I decided what I’m willing to do and what I’m not willing to do. I’ll qualify that by saying I’m blessed to not have any issues or diseases. Routine mammograms do not have the evidence to back up the practice but they do bring in $$$$ for hospitals and clinics. I am comfortable doing my own self breast exams. One article that you can look at that supports my stance is “Routine Mammograms—Necessary or not?”

oawhealth.com/articles/breast-cancer/

One other thing, I’ve never had a colonoscopy nor will I ever do it. I have several reasons for making that decision which are too lengthy to go into here.

Again, you know yourself, your health history and your family history and it should be every person’s right to make whatever decisions they feel are best for themselves. I’m very comfortable taking responsibility for my decisions but for some people it may stress them out to not do these routine tests. Healthcare is no longer what it used to be. Educate yourself as best you can….FLCCC Alliance and many physicians are speaking out about the corrupted system so do the research, consider alternative options for healthcare such as holistic, functional medicine or wellness care, eat healthy, exercise and get fresh air every day, take good quality vitamins and supplements and take control of your own health! Good luck!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Mammography is done with ionizing radiation. Get enough exposure over time (taking into account every human body is different and nothing is predictable) and the free radicals (molecules that are unstable) that can be caused by the radiation can fuel DNA mutations. Cells with mutated DNA will, like all cells, divide. But, they're not normal cells: the DNA is different. Cancer cells are not normal cells. Read: under the right conditions, which *no one can predict*, it's possible that many years of mammography has the potential to cause cancer, the very disease the diagnostic is designed to detect.

Not only that, but the pressure on the tissue from the test has the potential to injure cells which may be phagocytosed, or cleared up, by the innate wisdom (immune system) of the body or may undergo necrosis (die) and accumulate causing different problems not conducive to health. The pressure on tissue also has the potential to crush fragile, tiny, early early [sic] stage "tumors" of non-normal cells that may have just barely begun to proliferate. If so, the non-normal cells will no longer be localized in a tiny tumor but can move to other locations.

Just a couple of considerations.

Before deciding you should educate yourself. In doing so I wouldn't rely on information strictly from the establishment. Lots of homework, lots of digging. I hope you are able to settle in your mind what's best for you. Blessings.

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axons007's avatar

Perfect start for me. thank you. I will at the very least, stop doing them annually.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Great information and I concur with everything you said.

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Tonya's avatar

They have an astronomically high false positive rate, over 50% I think. Lots of unnecessary "treatment" which will cause future cancer for real.

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Irunthis1's avatar

I routinely try to talk people *out* of them but I do work overnight with no one listening over my shoulder to the good advice I give all night long. Tee hee. A lot of my customers wait til I’m working so they can as me specifically cuz they know I won’t lie to them ( or make up some bullshit like that pharmacist who said Moderna and Pfizer have the same “medicine”--talk about over simplified garbage). Just don’t tell your doctor you’re not taking them. Act baffled when he/she asks why your cholesterol is still high. Say stuff like, huh...I take it religiously that’s so weird....That’s my professional advice. You’re welcome.

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Fred's avatar

What’s your take on Natto for lipids?

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Irunthis1's avatar

Ya know I wasn't aware it could make a difference. I started taking natto in April as a sub for daily aspirin (hx of AFib with successful ablation in 2022). I'll let you know if it makes any difference but honestly I would be a smidge upset if it lowered my cholesterol after reading the study that showed that the ppl coming in with heart attacks were more likely to have LOW cholesterol than high (although the ones that were >350 or so we're the ones with high cholesterol that had a heart attack--probably with concomitant high triglycerides). So I'm perfectly happy being in the 250 range but it could drop a bit due to some dietary changes I made (less sugar). We shall see. I like natto tho! Has a lot going for it.

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Fred's avatar

The PACE study showed that a high saturated fat diet wasn’t a problem and even beneficial for strokes, but haven’t seen the stuff on cholesterol levels and heart attacks. I’d appreciate a link if you have it handy.

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rolandttg's avatar

Do you really want to continue to take the advice of a doctor who is either stupid enough, or compromised enough, to push statins?

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Fred's avatar

In case y’all don’t know (and please correct me if I’m wrong), the active ingredient in red yeast rice is exactly the same as lovastatin, and why the US and the EU (as of June 2021) have both limited the percentage of active ingredient available OTC to subtherapeutic levels. Not saying either is a good option. Just sayin’.

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Fred's avatar

So, as a naturally occurring compound, lovastatin should not have been patentable, right?

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HotTub Marmalade's avatar

My D.O. asked me to take statins a while back. I said no. So then she asked if I would take red yeast rice, to which I said yes. After doing some research on RYR, I found out that it too is a statin. At that point I threw the bottle out. I further found out that statins also cause a rise in A1c levels.

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Fred's avatar

RYR has long been used in holistic medicine, and is how the pharm companies “acquired” statins. Should not have been able to patent it since it is a naturally occurring compound. Tha ma to big pharma, the active ingredient in RYR is now limited to 3%, vs the 10% believed to be therapeutic. Yes, the compound can predispose to diabetes, but we should all assess our relative risks. e.g, a close friend exercises enough to keep his blood glucose and A1C normal, but has familial hyperlipidemia and heart disease, so uses low dose statins.

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Michelle's avatar

Stay informed. Stay healthy and alive.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

When they first came out, as a rn working in a cardiologist office, so many people c/o muscle spasms in their legs, after starting statins. I couldn't help but wonder, what it did to the heart muscle, not to mention, that the brain is made up of cholesterol. I would never let my mother get started on them, and needless to say, I don't take them either. Anything, that is pushed by pharma I have been very leery of. The less pharmaceutical one is on, the healthier they are. Just my opinion.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

Thank you for questioning the narrative. My father’s first cousin told me he blamed his neuropathy on statins. The benefits are minimal and questionable and the risks are substantial. My doctor advised statins for me not because of my blood work but because of my age, race, and gender. According to the doctor all white males over 70 need to be on statins. She’s owned by pharma.

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Maha's avatar

These people practice by Guidelines. The guidelines are developed after gerry-rigged studies focusing on relative rather than absolute risk show what a benefit to all-cause-mortality or specific disease is provided by the drug in question. Then they recite, like robots, the relative risk stats. If they veer from the guidelines, their massive Optum or Kaiser, or other big organization clinic will call them on the carpet. Perhaps they can't think for themselves on these issues, and are usually unprepared when a patient does.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Have you ever asked your doctor what perks or financial incentives she’s getting for prescribing these drugs?

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HotTub Marmalade's avatar

Julie, check out this site. Put a doctor's name in it and see what he/she is getting paid by pharma:

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Thanks for sharing!

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Kelly's avatar

Cool! My doc doesnt show up. I believe she is functional medicine

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CitizenA's avatar

I suffered from such severe muscle pain from statins that I got off them completely. Now after learning how bad they are (see below link) for the body, including the heart (which is a muscle), I’m glad I stopped taking them.

It’s like when my doc put me on Vioxx and I suffered a mild heart attack; I no longer have blind faith in drugs or physicians.

I thank the poster who gave the link to a video on statins and cholesterol. VERY INFORMATIVE!

https://youtu.be/iZctVYxiW2w?si=o-nT_N7gJRvMuFkR

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STH's avatar

Watch Dr. David Diamond on YouTube shred the stats of the famous Jupiter Statin Study docs site to peddle the “success” of statins. Your doc won’t appreciate it 😂

https://youtu.be/yX1vBA9bLNk?si=hbsvXpFrtQ6pk9uh

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Paige Green's avatar

Leg spasms? After Mom started them she had to keep a bottle of quinine tablets in her nightstand 🤔

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Annie's avatar

Just say no period. You are safer away from msm medical and big pharma. Avoid.

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Fred's avatar

I’m on the fence with those with Type IV familial hyperlipidemia and family history of premature heart disease. Thought some good literature supported longevity there. Anyone?

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Annie's avatar

I don't know enough. Though I would consult with a natural doctor to see what else I could do that is not big pharma related.

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Peter Schott's avatar

I've done that several times. They start mentioning that my cholesterol levels are high. I head them off and say "I'm not taking statins". They could even prescribe them, but I won't pick up that prescription or take it.

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Renee Marie's avatar

What people should be doing is avoiding the doctor at all costs with a clean diet, intermittent fasting, clean water, EXERCISE, sunshine, prayer/meditation, reflection.

I’m 60, I was forced to retire nearly three years ago because I didn’t comply. After that, I beat cancer, among things. Get blood tests and learn to navigate results on your own!

Unless you have an awake doctor (rare to find), a broken leg or arm, STAY AWAY FROM THE MEDICAL CARTEL. We don’t need them, they need us!

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

Yeah, unfortunately we do need them when we do something like break a bone. Look at how much we learned in the last 3 years! I have questioned all my prior beliefs. It doesn’t bother me to change my thoughts on things but for many others it would be intolerable.

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Renee Marie's avatar

I hear ya Hugh! Believe me! The last few years have been extremely enlightening, whether I like it or not-lol!

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Elder of The Tribe's avatar

Thank you.

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Paige Green's avatar

I have a friend who’s 80-ish. Told his doc he won’t take statins.

My mom took them and always bragged about her numbers. Of the many things I wish we hadn’t followed with her health, that was one.

We just didn’t know at the time. Many regrets now that she’s gone.

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rolandttg's avatar

Been there, done that

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

Thank you! I was going to say this but you have, and I concur. I got my hubby off all that sh*t his doctors were pushing on him and at 87 he’s healthy and takes no pharma drugs.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Wooohooo! Go 87!

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

And feisty as all get out.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I did the same for my husband. 20 years ago? Don't remember. He's 74 now with no problems.

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Janet's avatar

Bingo. Another PHARMA con--big time. Cholesterol isn’t even the problem. Well, jabs have been added as a top reason for heart problems now. The whole body epithelium is damaged by these jabs. Seed oils probably next.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Neither is bp.

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TT's avatar

Elevated BP is a SYMPTOM of a problem with the body.

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Janet's avatar

Probably decreased and blocked energy production at the mitochondria level by the damages of diet, seed oils, etc. The body then needs to use our stress pathways that use stress hormones cortisol and adrenaline 24/7 to feed absolutely necessary glucose to our body and brain. Low carb makes it worse for long periods. I’m studying that now and getting off low carb keto I’ve been on for years. Running on stress hormones causes all sorts of damage like thyroid disregulation, elevated BP, thinning bones (undereating) The body works too hard on these stress hormones. All this started after a few years on low carb. I’ve finally put 2 and 2 together and cycling in good carbs. Yes sugar. It’s not the devil we’ve been gaslighted to believe. Keto and low carb gurus gloss this over and even my functional medicine doc didn’t get it. Seems I have to treat myself these days and research assiduously. My next visit and bloodwork in February may tell another story.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Years ago I was having thyroid problems and a lot of stress. Adrenal exhaustion and the insurance dictated doctors ignored it, pushed antidepressants. Took statins for a week and quit, too painful to sleep.

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Janet's avatar

It’s interesting in many cases long term low carb raises cholesterol raising panic in docs and statin Rx results. Many keto low carb gurus then have a protocol to lower cholesterol for the blood test to keep docs happy. That protocol is eating carbohydrates and little fat for a week and that lowers cholesterol for the test. That tells me something important. My cholesterol rose on keto. But then higher cholesterol is not the problem. Dietary cholesterol is meaningless.

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Janet's avatar

The cholesterol con made me suspicious and Covid made me highly suspicious of every other health advice.

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John Bugni's avatar

Sounds like you've been following Dr. Mercola. Me too. I was VERY succesfull following the keto diet and got down to 10 % fat and it was Dr Mercola that got me started on Keto. He recently discovered an old theory on glucose metabolism that points to the dangers of long term keto and the need to reduce fat consumption to 30% and carbs to 60 or 70 %.

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Janet's avatar

Yes, John, he tipped me off to this but I’m getting most of my info and science from reading Kate Deering’s Heal Your Metabolism and Jay Feldman Wellness. Jay has excellent YouTube videos and website. Taking his course. The science is compelling and since I wanted to get off keto without going off the rails, this pro metabolism science made sense. I’m eating 3 meals and some snacks now. I feel proper hunger at the times to keep blood sugar steady. I was undereating which damaged my thyroid. At 75 I want to get this right. There is a place for keto for sure and I did well too. Cheers.

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Karen Shore's avatar

Be sure you have done a One Day Hormone Are can consider: Check hormones with Adrenocortex Stress Profile (a saliva hormone panel by Genova Diagnostics) and monitor cholesterol with a blood Cardio IQ test, not the standard cholesterol panel. Your personal readings should also inform you that your liver naturally produces any needed glucose (only 20%) of fuel for optimal brain function. So theoretically you do not need any carbohydrates. 80% of brain fuel will optimally be ketones.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Most Drs and nurses DO NOT take bp the RIGHT WAY. IT'S most always ELEVATED because of that alone. Then there's the immediate stress and pain factor that often raises it which they ignore. AND they have lowered the threshold of "acceptable" and made it the same across all ages.

Now, let's talk about body temperature...😣😑

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Aloha50's avatar

True. Also, the idea that 120 over 80 is ideal BP is absurd. Everybody's body is different. For some people, normal blood pressure for them If say at age 45 would be 140 over 90. Also, until sometime in the 90s doctors used to take age into account for blood pressure. Meaning higher numbers were to be expected the older you get which is normal.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Exactly but if you don't research EVERYTHING for yourself then you can be easily abused.

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Karen Shore's avatar

Then bring a home record of BPs taken during the day to show them. Of course bring in your own BP machine so they can compare readings while in the office.

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c Anderson's avatar

Yep, lose weight and BP comes in line.

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NAB's avatar

Malcolm Kendrick does a great job breaking down the myths surrounding statins in his book "And the Clot Thickens." Great documentary on YouTube too:

https://youtu.be/iZctVYxiW2w?si=-uiU5hmVzcy1Ap9x

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thanks for the link. I’m gonna watch it when I have time. Saved it. Dealing with high cholesterol. Refuse statins and are dealing with it using diet and exercise. Need more info in my arsenal to combat stupid doctors. 👍🏻

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

My best friend's mother in law passed away at 94. Her cholestetol was over 400.....for 30+ years! (When they started testing it). She lived a great, long life! Cholesterol is necessary for the brain to function... and for the body! Our Gastrointerologist stated folks who have artifically lowered cholesterol die of brain and gut disease!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

THIS ⬆️

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Sunnydaze, just say no when your doctor tries to push statins on you. Everyone in my family has elevated cholesterol but no one dies of heart disease. My mom is 93 and still going strong without taking any prescription meds. When my doctor recommended statins for me and I said no, she ordered a cardioscan. (A cheap and easy non-invasive procedure to measure the plaque in your coronary arteries). My score was 0, meaning no plaque in my arteries. She no longer has an argument and I’m focused on good health naturally, meaning mostly healthy foods, fresh air and sunshine, exercise and supplements.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes! I have already said NO and said NO to my daughter’s doc also. Thanks for reminding me of the cardioscan. I forgot what it was called. I plan to do that if it keeps being elevated and they have a problem with it. It runs in my family too but not one person has had a stroke or heart attack or has heart disease. I eat healthy and am growing my own garden now too. We are working to implement more exercise. That may be where we lack.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Family genetics is the best predictor for health, taking into consideration alcohol or tobacco use, other drugs, obesity etc. Many of us are blessed in that we have good genes. Our enemies right now are Big Pharma, the federal government and our terrible processed, chemically poisoned food supply. I’m surprised Jeff hasn’t delved into that but he has his hands full with all he does to educate us while handling a demanding job and making time for his family. He’s a gift to all of us!

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John Bugni's avatar

Yes. ApoeE genetic test excellent for quantifying cardiac risk.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Agreed!

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Look into oil of oregano. Two drops a day in a glass of cranberry or grape juice (to hide the taste a little). It’s good for all kinds of cardiovascular health.

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NAB's avatar

It's good in that it's only an hour long.. Highly recommend checking out Malcolm Kendrick's blog too:

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/

Peruse at your leisure.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

Ask your doctor to do a CardioIQ test. It may be genetic and statins have no effect.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thanks!

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VanLife Views's avatar

Been following Malcolm for years! Always look forward to his email newsletter!

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I just watched this, and it was so informative, something new in science, informed consent. Except, they are not telling people. Thank you for sharing, I shared to my facebook, hoping people will be interested enough to listen to.

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John Bugni's avatar

Excellent book. Lays out the whole truth about cholesterol and the confusion/obfuscation and makes sense of it all. "A voice one crying in the wilderness."

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nik's avatar

Midwestern Doctor has several great pieces on the statin-lie…

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Wait till they find out about these new obesity drugs:

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-hidden-struggle-in-health-care

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Roger Beal's avatar

Easy peasy: Take a pill but NEVER NEVER modify your behavior.

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VanLife Views's avatar

Franklin

Thanks for your link. Diving into many of your SS articles. Thank you so much for that link to the Corbett Report on Big Oil!

Just subbed 🧐

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and muscle pain which can cause falls in older folks.

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TT's avatar

Yes! Anyone who wants more info, read The Clot Thickens.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Ouch. Pretty bad side effects.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

And dementia.

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rolandttg's avatar

I paused too when I read this, then realized it was not Jeff saying this , but the Big Pharma industry, I mean MSM.

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Westkay 823's avatar

I refused statins a few years ago - now my doctor wants me on bp meds - took a 24 hour test - average 133/90 and at night - 118/70. 😕

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

It fits their narrative! Your bp is high? What?? They keep lowering the "acceptable" levels to "offer" big pHARMa garbage!!

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CarO Lyn's avatar

Type 2 diabetes is also a known side effect.

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Christine Zuleger's avatar

I read that article in The EPOCH TIMES this week on This connection... informative read !!!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

My dad, 90, is still taking them, I just found out a few months ago. I’ve sent mom and dad tons of articles and have given them the language to use when taking to their doc about getting off statins and why.

His 6mo physical is today. Hundred bucks he doesn’t bring it up, I think he’s afraid to go against the almighty doc. 😢

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Valerie's avatar

And highly correlated with diabetes, too.

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TRM's avatar

"But if someone is reckless enough to ask about your vaccination status, ask them (politely) right back: how does their heart feel?" - Now that's cold. Funny as hell too LOL.

My response is a bit different: "Of course not. Why would I take a series of experimental injections for a disease with an IFR of 0.3% based on 2 months of data where the raw data was withheld?"

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I’m out and proud these days. When people ask if I got the booster, I say, “Nope. I don’t do shots. Any of them.” With a smile. Most of my family is on the same page, so they don’t ask. However, work is a different story (I work in a public charter school). Since I’m the boss, I get zero push-back to my gleeful “Nope.” Puzzled expressions? Yes. Push-back? No. And I’m one of the few people in building who hasn’t tested positive for Covid this season (probably because I don’t test), and one of the few people in the building who hasn’t had more than a baby cold. I don’t do this to be flippant or disrespectful. I do this so that they SEE, with their very own eyeballs, that the healthiest person in the building shuns the shots. I do this to give others who feel the same way space and freedom to say NO. And they DO. Most say it privately. But at least they’re SAYING it. Out. And. PROUD!

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Annie's avatar

Awesome. 👍 I tell people that I will never go willing to another doctor again. Their minds are blown. 🤯 they cannot conceive a day without a magical cure. All hail the pharma gods.

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Khallas's avatar

Hair stylist here in Scotland was saying he doesn't know what happened to his uncle. He was a healthy, hearty guy, 80 but going strong and working in the medical field. Last time he saw him he barely knew him. Has tremors and dementia. He was baffled. I politely murmered that I suspect those Covid vaccines were not good for people. He asked me point blank, "Did you get it?" I told him no, and he ruefully said he only got one. I think people are waking up.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I LOVE that reply. You said it without saying it.

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space's avatar

Good for you! Love it!!

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Annie's avatar

Reply - Corn pop lied. I am still alive and healthy. Next. Pass the stuffing.

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VanLife Views's avatar

I’m still in Awe I made it past the “darkest Winter”

Look at me go 🏃‍♀️

Come on man 👀

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Johnny-O's avatar

Corn pop and the Donald.

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FourWinds's avatar

I'd say there are three things I am not discussing: politics, religion and the scamdemic. Then I immediately change the subject to football, horror movies or the weather. Well, now we can't discuss that because of b.s. "climate change". At any rate, I'm not talking about it.

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NAB's avatar

I have a few adult children who are so certain that their views are right on every topic but when you even gently probe, they immediately get defensive. One, in particular, has replaced the faith she was raised in with her new religion of eco-politics. Trust me, I am not touching any of the hot topics this Thanksgiving. I just want her to not completely shut us out of her life.

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rolandttg's avatar

Our daughter was that way. "The science is proven! " she would scream, not realizing science is never proven. It's what makes it science. But, never let facts get in the way of a good cult.

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Tom's avatar

A: "The science is proven!"

B: "Explain."

A: "The gnome in the white coat said so!"

B: "That's a logical fallacy known as Appeal to Authority . . ."

Thanksgiving ruined!

Peace, rolandttg. All we can do is speak the truth in love.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

And she knows that is what you fear most - to be shut out. And it sounds to me like she will use that frequently. A little bit here, a little bit there, next thing you know it's "If you don't vote for Biden, you'll never see your grandkids again."

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NAB's avatar

She actually pulled our Trump yard sign out of the ground and stomped on it when we kept it up long past the election and into 2021. I honestly think that was when she decided she was never going to forgive us. Just insane. But I can't let politics be an idol in my life either. At the end of the day, I want her with the G-d who made her and loves her best. I want her home in Heaven so I TRY to moderate my words (I don't always succeed because rolling over is hard for me) and I pray for her. Jesus warned that families would be divided. We are living it.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I’m sorry. I can’t imagine how difficult that would be within your family. I like what you said too… I can’t let politics be an idol. Hard one to balance when politics is so woven into our relationships with God and what the Bible says, and the evil that is trying to destroy us. Peace to you this week and for your Thanksgiving Day gathering.

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NAB's avatar

Thank you, Sunnydaze!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Wow

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Betsy Frost's avatar

So true. I have been through this with one of my adult children. Our relationship has suffered and I feel as though I walk on eggshells around his family.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

2 of my dear friends are struggling with their adult children. Took one a year to get to meet their new grandchild because they refused jabs.

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Betsy Frost's avatar

It is so sad, and disturbing.

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daverkb's avatar

It used to be that 'living together' outside of wedlock was ground for ostracism and everyone knew this. The result? No too many people did that because they did not want to be cut out of the family. Now that every discipline has lapsed, so has family stability.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I have returned to using the phrase "living in sin".

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Bgagnon's avatar

Yep, that's just how it happens!

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VanLife Views's avatar

Wow everyone....so many of us in the same boat with adult kids and well with much of our family. Sigh...

I feel like for me it’s come full circle a bit and we are all mostly talking. But there seems to be this weird tone to everything..... I guess it’s the “eggshell Effect”

And my girls were raised north of the Golden Gate Bridge

Alternative everything out where we were.... Montessori, the Good Earth HFood store, redwoods, creeks, chickens and me making non stop healthy meals. You know trying to lay down a healthy foundation.

Fast forward to covid and they were first in line to be protected..... Did you do any research or maybe want to wait a bit..... they said

“Come on we know science Mom 🧬 “

So yeah now we talk about their work and what’s going on in THEIR lives mainly...

Happy HoliDaze 🎄

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NAB's avatar

Yes, the "eggshell effect" or the "minefield effect." I think your approach with talking about their lives is a good one. I'm going to adopt it.

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Jpeach's avatar

Same problem here. As soon as I bring up any topic that questions our Government’s unwavering protection of its People, I get the “White Supremacist, Domestic Terrorist, Brainwashed by Trump” look. Then we talk about the weather, until Climate Change comes up.

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NAB's avatar

Sigh. Exactly. Don't even get me started on the climate scam. And as I always lament, these kids are standing on the shoulders of giants before them and think they are tall.

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Tom's avatar

They are standing on the shoulders of gnomes!

But, yeah . . .

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Ripple's avatar

That's one of the things that really pisses me off about current "progressivism." You can't even talk about the freaking weather anymore without it being politicized.

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Barb's avatar

I get it. I hung out with my daughter on Election Day. We even went to vote together before I took her out birthday shopping. It was tough lol. You should have seen her face when I said, “ I kind of like DeSantis” 😂😂😂 She knows we want to move to Florida. But unlike her, I am open minded. I can discuss what I like and dislike about each candidate. I did tell her that she can’t vote for Biden. I said I wouldn’t let him handle my checkbook let alone run a whole country. She did not disagree. She just sat quietly.

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TRM's avatar

Oh come on. Enjoy the squirming LOL. Channel your inner "Calvin & Hobbes" mischief into provoking thought.

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Dr Linda's avatar

That does sound fun. I always enjoyed Calvin and Hobbs

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Tom's avatar

I just pictured Calvin peeing in a vat of COMIRNATY.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Perfect!

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Tamsin's avatar

politics = religion = covidism = gaia worship. You repeat yourself. 😉

Funny to think that, when I was young I thought politics and religion were two different things. 😐

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Dr Linda's avatar

I was immediately thinking the weather us something to never discuss as well.

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c Anderson's avatar

So you let atheists choose who we elect?

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FourWinds's avatar

No one in my circle is an atheist. I am the odd one out with a religion other than theirs, so it's best the topic stays off the table. I already don't like the stress of family gatherings, I will not make it worse.

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SoundTruth LightLoveConnection's avatar

My sister used to tell me to limit my conversations to “what’s for dinner, how’s the weather.” And now all that’s left is “what’s for dinner?” 😂😅😃

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Bgagnon's avatar

LOL ... that's the saving grace in conversations that slip off the track in dangerous territory!

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rolandttg's avatar

If you want to add another line, "and every day I read of at least a half dozen well known people of all ages who died suddenly, all of which just happened to be jabbed"

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BBS's avatar

Frankly, the jabbed members of my family are not smart enough to comprehend that sentence, which, come to think of it, explains a lot My response is "Do you really want to go there? with a look that tells them, no, they most definitely do not.

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RU's avatar

I've gotten to the same place. Saying it with confidence helps to normalize it. And at this point, it needs to be the norm. Too many people are dying b/c of these things.

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VanLife Views's avatar

Oh dear

I may have to try that out “so anyway.....how does your ❤️ feel aunt sally?”

If someone is still asking then I guess I have a question for them

Happy holidays 🦃

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Dick Davis's avatar

Carville is an aging Woke dinosaur…long live Louisiana and Argentina

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Seeking Grace's avatar

My nickname for him is Skeletor 🦖

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Is he sick or something? He looks really bad.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Demons.

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Annie's avatar

And the shots.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I wondered the same. He looks like a vegan who doesn’t take care of himself. He has that dry, brittle look.

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VanLife Views's avatar

Linda.....Omg you nailed it.

It’s the sunken bony face and deep lack of B12 I swear.

The eyes can give it away too

Carrots 🥕 are not helping

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

He’s always looked scary. Demonic?

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Roger Beal's avatar

A lifetime of evil leaves physical marks.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

He’s always looked like that. And his wife is a very attractive conservative! (Well, conservative-ish. She worked for GWBush, so). How he got her is beyond me!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Carville has always been "creepy" looking - is he still married to that woman who "was" a devoted GOP'er activist??

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Seeking Grace's avatar

It appears so 🤷🏻‍♀️ Go figure on that pairing!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

WOW--his wife went "full Monty"--she is now a declared LIBERTARIAN!!

Matalin in 2011

Born Mary Joe Matalin

August 19, 1953 (age 70)

Burnham, Illinois, U.S.

Education

Western Illinois University (BA)

Hofstra University

Occupation Political consultant

Political party

Republican (before 2016)

Libertarian (since 2016)

Spouse James Carville ​(m. 1993)

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MOMinator's avatar

Haha yes! 💀

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Robin Esau's avatar

He is. It's incredibly sad. Just prayed for him. What he said is so right, and so wrong all at the same time.

Kudos to the citizens of Louisiana and Argentina!

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NAB's avatar

Good reminder to pray for our enemies. Thank you, Robin.

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c Anderson's avatar

Prey for them and remind them to get their booster. 😉

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

What is he even talking about? What’s his evidence that politicians who are believers “want a theocracy”, or think “democracy is sign of weakness”? Does he even know any Christians? He just sounds crazy, or ignorant, possibly both.

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Concerned mom's avatar

He says Christians want to spy on others... What does he think our government has been doing to the entire population for years now??? We are watched as soon as we step outside our homes, on the streets, at whatever store we enter, heck even our phones take pictures of us w/o our knowing and perhaps we've given permission in the small print... We are a Police State, NO DOUBT!

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

Remember when he was "cutting edge"? Now he is just a ranting old Grandpa.

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TJ's avatar

I disagree 100%. Carville is anything but “woke”.

He’s canny and he’s insightful, which is why the “woke” will agree with his being a dinosaur, which in turn is very good thing.

He’s not wrong about many Evangelicals tilting heavily towards Christian nationalism (which is not necessarily a theocracy by the way). And when their lives revolve around unwholesome, degenerate behaviors it’s no wonder leftists are panicked.

The last thing Weimerica needs is a competent leftist ideologue driving the bus. We’ll all be safer when dinosaurs like Carville sink into the tar pit of history.

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Concerned mom's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb01O1EP2I4 Great Tucker Carlson / Milei interview!

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Janet's avatar

What’s with all these T Shirt floggers lately? Retail bots ?

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

He’s a regular here , I just ignore him

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Susan Stephens's avatar

If I were once interested in possibility of purchase I’m DEFINITELY turned off after their annoying “promotions.”

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TIM's avatar

Mehhhh, Republicans won a landslide in Louisiana. Now, let's see if they actually do something. I'm still disappointed from WAY BACK during Obama's first term, midterm elections showed Red winnings...and they were going to do this and that....to stop the socialist scourge, and all they did was secure his reelection. Sometimes they're like watching a 30min infomercial about what all they're going to do to save 'Merica, apple pie, and my AR-15....but results are always mediocre, and then the next gigantic step forward for socialism and the progressive agenda occurs.....it's like having a baseball-size hole in your boat, and you're bailing with a spoon.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Republican Super Majority is only as effective as they want it to be. In Alabama .... not so much. Took 3 yrs. to pass a bill protecting minors from genital mutilation surgeries. Still no school choice bill passed. But they managed to pass legalizing “marijuana dispensaries.” Only by conservative groups pushing an amendment to the bill requiring communities to opt in (as opposed to having to opt out), we’d otherwise be covered like wallpaper w/ pot shops. MJ industry has been busy in even conservative states. I could go on w/ bad legislative examples as well as good legislative ones left in the bottom of the barrel never to be voted upon.

Oh & be aware of your state “public health departments” in red states. They are still pushing shots (cv19, flu, RSV) here....& taxpayers are paying their advertising bills. They’re also too cozy w/ the LBGTQ..... seeping into school programs. Thereby the state BOE can claim clean hands as this agenda rolls into our schools. Our state library board & director have been very helpful & supportive of the national board in pushing inappropriate materials for youngsters.

Hopefully Louisiana will do more than simply wear their conservative red state badge.

And drive Carville into more rages.

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Liz Shelby's avatar

Well Dr Joseph Ladapo, Florida Surgeon General, is definitely NOT still pushing the shots in fact he has come out and said publicly that "No one" should be getting these shots.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I wish they would do what is right and come out and just pull them off the shelves. That would be brave.

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Liz Shelby's avatar

Then the sheeple would rant they are being “deprived” of their choice to take them….

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Peace's avatar

And be careful of health departments setting up convenient clinics in public schools. Which could vaccinate children without parental permission (or knowledge as they could be forbidden from disclosing medical information to the parents) as well as other medical interventions without parental knowledge.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Phyllis Schlafly (started Eagle Forum in 1970’s) warned about school nurse morphing into school clinics where parents would be shut out.

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Peace's avatar

Phyllis Schlafly was quite correct! "Phyllis Schlafly (started Eagle Forum in 1970’s) warned about school nurse morphing into school clinics where parents would be shut out."

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

& the marajuana from the dispensary are all genetically modified, there’s something wrong with it.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I seriously doubt that the GOP (for the most part--not everyone) is anything but a shill for whatever lobbying group performs the most "persuasive" sell job on them. CORRUPTION IN HIGH PLACES (and low places) is what we have in our country.

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LCC's avatar

Well said!! Republicans consistently disappoint their electorate with big talk and little action. I hope I’m proven wrong and that the citizens of Louisiana actually benefit from the enactment of conservative principles in the state.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

There's no bigger 'all hat, no cattle' people than the RePubs.

It's hardly worth listening to most of them. A few good ones include Thomas Massie and Rand Paul.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Man, I think Paul gets far more credit than he deserves. He knows how and when to grab the spotlight, and because most are so horribly misinformed (not talking about you) they think he is some renegade. He's had the covid goods for YEARS and hasn't done jack, for instance...

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Rand is NOT his father--that's for certain!

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Johnny-O's avatar

Precisely. Not even half as good...

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Sad but true. Even our best guys are pretty much No Shows.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Ron Johnson is a good guy as well!

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Janet's avatar

I’m red pilled. They are going to have to do much, much better before my votes are simply used to punish democrats. My red congresscritter voted to bloat the FBI even more. Very disappointing.

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space's avatar

"Congresscritter"! Love it!

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Tom's avatar

J. Edgar Hoover would be doing pirouettes in his pretty sundress if he knew how much kompromat on US politicians the FBI has in its possession, now that they have "misplaced" the contents of Jeffrey Epstein's safe.

The voting patterns of your red congresscritter being a topic worthy of consideration . . .

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Jude Zentmeyer's avatar

Hey Jeff, can you keep reporting on the progress, or lack of, in LA? And can we help in Florida?

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RU's avatar

Because they are all on the same basic team: big government + big business = monopolies and protected profits for the ruling elite. The people who make it to the top always support big government and support policies that increase the size of government in one form or another. Their fortunes depend upon it. When someone is willing to actually question the legitimacy of government itself (like: do we even need this thing?), then I pay attention to them as a possible antidote to the status quo of ever-expanding government, what some would refer to as the tendency toward increased socialism. (Though I think fascism is probably technically closer to what we're seeing.)

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Regarding bailing, I note that bleach no longer comes in 1-gal bottles--so our bailers hold less --takes longer to bail out the boat(s).

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Debra S Heard's avatar

Landry has been on the battleground fighting for our rights in court cases for the past few years (I live in Louisiana). I think he is going to be wonderful for us!

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Fla Mom's avatar

Agree, and it can even be worse when there's a big Republican majority, because they don't have to compete anymore.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I just contacted a friend in Louisiana and asked him if they are conservatives or rinos. He’ll tell me what’s really going on there and if it is as good as we are hoping for. Not getting too excited yet.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I was 11 years old in 1961 when Eisenhower and Huxley gave their prophetic speeches. If only I knew! It wasn't until high school that I embarked on reading Brave New World, 1984, Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury, Animal Farm, etc. This was the reason I told my boys over two years ago as soon as they began deplatforming people (including the POTUS - who does that?!) that this was the same thing as the book burning by the Nazis in pre-war Germany and this was the beginning of a dictatorship here in the USA. They both scoffed. Later they acknowledged that "Dad was right."

"A Dictatorship without Tears"

Aldous Huxley's prescient 1961 speech

...Every passing day brings fresh revelations of the preposterously fraudulent character of the COVID-19 Pandemic and the official response to it. The reality of it isn’t even being concealed—it just isn’t being reported in the legacy media, and a large swath of the population is too stupefied and distracted to see what is right in front of them.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/a-dictatorship-without-tears

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Jeff C's avatar

Yikes Phil, you are old! Well I'm only a decade behind you so I probably shouldn't be throwing stones...

One of the things that has fascinated me is how many in the older age group have just gone along with all of this stuff (particularly the Covid madness). It's like they are stuck in the 1950's and just believe everything they see/read. If it's on the news it must be true. Ditto for if a doctor says it. The government wouldn't lie to us about this. Israel is always right. It goes on and on ad nauseum. In the meantime their kids and grandkids face a dystopian future of tyranny and serfdom.

Glad you're awake and that your kids recognize that sometimes gray hair actually can bring some wisdom. I've accepted the fact that it will require me to have a lower standard of living in my "golden years" as it will be more important that my kids have the money I've earned to deal with this stuff than for me to blow it on myself. It's going to be ugly, but my kids will be prepared as much as possible if nothing else.

Edit: fixed typos

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Tom's avatar

Those who are terrified of death do not understand that 70 to 80 years of life are a light and momentary affliction.

I say this as one who is as double-minded and broken as anyone. That doesn't mean it's not true!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

"... 70 to 80 years of life are a light and momentary affliction."

It's about perspective, isn't it?

Human life on planet earth is temporary in the extreme on a scale of eternity. Barely the blink of an eye.

What a blessing this breath is. And this one. And this. And...

In a minute it'll all be over.

Slip seamlessly into the next adventure on the eternal life train.

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Aryenis's avatar

This has puzzled me too - older folks who stick in their groove, don't seem to perceive the changed dynamics in the public and political space. Surely experience ought to provide some insight.

One of my postulated explanations is that it's a matter of news sourcing. Many elders keep using and trusting the same media, mostly newspapers and tv news, that they always have relied on. Although these have long been outlets for government propaganda to some extent, in the past, divergent views and analysis were picked up too. Now to find real divergence and challenges to the common, homogenized narrative, one has to become comfortable with the internet.

I have an older neighbor, age 90, who belies this theory. He never uses internet. However, he also never listens to tv news, because it seems absurd to him. And he now subscribes to Epoch Times. Dunno if he is an exception or representative.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

😏Based on personal observation I'd say an exception. I'm hardly the final word.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Everyday I post Scripture and a Holocaust story on my fb wall. Also abortion stores. Pick any 'holocaust' you want and make your friends and family face it that gov always has a deadly enemy and it's critical thinking ppl.

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daverkb's avatar

Here's an interesting one.

https://rumble.com/v3wi04s-restructuring-of-the-global-economy-michael-hudson-alexander-mercouris-and-.html

It's is perhaps not perfect, but it does bring up the distinction between a 'financial/commercial' economy and an industrial/produce real things economy. Most of the history is right. And mostly, just glad to hear thinking instead of the perpetual sausage machine.

One thing! Sanctions all along was the best thing to happen to Russia. It forced them to do things which they otherwise would not have done.

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Aryenis's avatar

Yep. As soon as the sanctions against Russia became comprehensive, it reminded me of an old idea from development economics. This suggests that, when trying to develop and build out a limited or "infant" modern economic base, the country should establish a limited period of protections for the fledgling businesses, with e.g. tariffs or outright trade bans, in order to give the new, national industries a chance to grow, perfect their skills, and become competitive. A related idea is that profits of the country be required to be reinvested in the same country, not go abroad seeking bigger, quicker profits.

Basically, the sanctions delivered this protection for Russia's national industrial base without the government having to impose elaborate new rules. And predictably, considering the European and global demand, they seem to have found middlemen through which to continue to export their gas and grain and collect those funds, albeit at a somewhat slower rate.

It was always inexplicably shortsighted of U.S. strategists to think that they could use sanctions broadly, as a dominant cudgel to enforce preferred behaviors around the world, and it would not backfire.

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daverkb's avatar

Exactly right! I knew the gig was up when the gold window closed and that upon the heels of seven years before having eliminated silver money. Which also meant that the domestic cost structure had to be keep international cost competitive, which it wasn't because of government sourced impost added costs. To wit, the United States shot itself in the foot with wars and money printing to pay for it plus the social costs added on top of all of that. The rest of the world has had belly full of us. And God help us now.

It's looking like gold will permanently slingshot above 2000. De-dollarization appears to be going apace more quickly than most people think. Other central banks keep buying. And now the Fed is the only major institution still net short gold.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Dave, do you know anything about this Witzeman and the "military tribunals"? Is this psyops?

https://jeffwitzeman.substack.com/p/evidence

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daverkb's avatar

Clever writing. Appears to be psyops. Star chamber, secret tribunals cannot possibly be justice which can only be administered with all eyes looking on. We've seen plenty of this before and mostly unsupported allegation.

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Politico Phil's avatar

That was my take too. It just seems so pointless to me.

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daverkb's avatar

Anything to prevent people from thinking clearly.

You might enjoy this:

https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/the-oracle-of-the-dog?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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Politico Phil's avatar

Dave, I'm in a quandary. Willing Spirit made several comments to this string I started and she is obviously asking, very defensively, for answers but I am quite at a loss for how to reply to her. Any suggestions or would you like to take a stab? Here's the link...

https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/rising-narratives-wednesday-november?r=u78oh&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=44533597

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Tom's avatar

False scales are an abomination to the Lord.

If only we had honest markets!

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daverkb's avatar

Or real anything!

Here's a body language video. It's the San Francisco meeting, Chinese on one side of the table. Americans on the other side. See where the strength and confidence is. I think you can spot it straight off.

https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2023/11/17/body-language-blinken-meets-chinese-president/

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rolandttg's avatar

I've listened to that Huxley presentation. it was spot on

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

“And yet, she still jabbed her kids. She believed the CDC over her own personal experience. It just means it’s working! Who are these people?

All I’ve got by way of explanation is medical fetishism.”

As a past La Leche League leader, we talked a lot at meetings about how we moms had to follow our own instincts and not just blindly do what the medical personnel told us to do. I saw so many moms fearful of everything and always calling the doctor whenever anything out of the ordinary happened, and with new moms and babies, everything seems out of the ordinary. We would just calm them down and ask them what is their gut telling them. I think it’s mass psychosis going on here. Society has elevated doctors to god-like status and no one can think for themselves anymore.

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Kimberly's avatar

Longtime LLL member, here! YES!!! I think women are programmed while pregnant, if they find themselves in the medical model of childbirth, to be dependent upon the medical system for their very "survival." We hear this so often, as 30% of birth stories in America involve the words "I had an EMERGENCY c-section." I can speak from experience that when I handed over the reigns from an OB to a midwife in a birth center, my entire view of women and birth changed. It's not profitable, though, for women to trust their bodies or themselves ... hence the $$ made through medical model of birth, formula, "well-baby visits" where a perfectly healthy baby is handed over to be sickened by Big Pharma -- creating CUSTOMERS for LIFE.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Yes! You are so right! When I had my first in 1982, I took him home and didn’t need to “check in” with the doctor for 6 weeks. Now, they get the moms when they’re at their most vulnerable, some go in for their first check up within the first week. At that point, unless they’re particularly strong, they’ll do whatever those people tell them.

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Kim's avatar

If I could do it all over again, I would have done things differently for my now 16-year-old daughter. No vaccines at all.

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Kimberly's avatar

I hear you on this and have the same thoughts for my older children (ages 19 and 17.) What gives me comfort is that we have credibility in this conversation. We actually did have our children vaccinated to various degrees. And we have learned a lot. We are pro-informed consent and pro-bodily integrity. Your voice and mine, and the many others, are powerful. And together we will MOVE THE NEEDLE!:)

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Kim's avatar

Agree 100%! My daughter has some health issues that I believe are from vaccinations. The reason I was pro vax was my mom’s 2-year-old sister got polio when mom was about 12. Mom was taking her on a walk and suddenly she couldn’t walk. This made a huge impression on Mom and she was adamant I would get my vaccines. I also have ongoing health issues. At least I finally figured it out and I am hopeful my daughter sees it too.

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Kimberly's avatar

Stories are so powerful! We have a story, too. We paused vaccinating when my oldest went in for her Kindergarten DTap booster and went into anaphylaxis, right there on the table. I've had conversations with rabid pro-vax individuals, and even they soften when I describe what it felt like to see my baby go through that. Of course, there's the whole, "But that's 1 in a million" comment that inevitably follows... yet the data tells a very different story, actually. And what are the chances that we've met so many other people with a "1 in a million" story? The world is waking up. It's an exciting time!

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Kimberly's avatar

Absolutely! Especially if the hormonal cocktails of oxytocin, endorphins, and norepineperine have been disrupted by artificial pitocin (as it is in the majority of births, either during labor or postpartum to accelerate shrinking of the uterus "so you don't hemmorage") and epidural medication (synthetic opiods.) Now the woman's own natural bonding/relaxing/pain-killing abilities have been hijacked by Big Phama, and when she comes off it, she is left with the side effects of anxiety/depression, in the immediate postpartum. I speak from experience! 3 births: 2 in the hospital, 1 at home. Massive difference in how I felt for many weeks, afterwards! Letting nature lead empowers the woman with her own instincts. Women who experience medical model are so vulnerable not just at the birth, but for months afterwards.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup and women never seem to be warned about the pitocin and depression connection 😕

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! Agree! I wondered why, when I first started seriously considering having children, it made me start to feel anxious and panicky. I realized as I read books like “What to Expect” (ugh I despise that book!!! 😡) and heard stories from other women, that I hated the sense of being some vessel who had to submit to the medical establishment’s will with no consideration of the woman’s individuality or wishes. I started learning about alternatives and had my first child in a hospital (nearest birthing center was an hour and a half away so that seemed too daunting to me as a first time mother) but with an amazing doula. Second child was in a birthing center with a midwife. Even though the first birth went better than expected for a hospital birth, the second one was just amazing. So so much better, in terms of experience and recovery.

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Kimberly's avatar

Such a powerful story!! So much wisdom, earned through experience! Love it!!:)

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RunningLogic's avatar

I am very grateful that I had people and access to information that allowed me to figure all of this out. I thank God for that 🙏

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shayne's avatar

In New Zealand we had Karitane nurses who'd come to your house for the first few weeks of baby's life and weigh them, check them, talk with mum, so baby didn't have to go out in public, and any issues with mum would be seen early. Then we'd go to the Plunket rooms where the Karitane nurses would continue to see babies and young children. Every town and city had them.

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daverkb's avatar

The first rule of the Elites, medical and otherwise is: never let 'em think for themselves!

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Fla Mom's avatar

I'm a physician, and when I gave birth I read various baby-care books written by physicians. I noted that they were inconsistent in the advice given, across books, but also internally inconsistent within books that had multiple authors. There were also howlers in them such as that letting a baby cry it out to go to sleep, thereby teaching them to sleep when put down, gave them confidence. "Were those data collected by self-administered questionnaires given to the babies?" I wondered. I also thought it was absolute cruelty to let a baby cry it out. I couldn't do it, and I'm glad I couldn't do it. At any rate, my realization of the inconsistencies and ridiculous claims led me to toss them and just do what seemed right.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

One of my favorite books as a mom was “How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor.”

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RunningLogic's avatar

For a counterpoint, my older son was one this (picking up and soothing to sleep) didn’t work for. He never gave any signs of being tired until he was overtired. And then, being with people overstimulated him and prevented him from getting to sleep. I had to learn that his crying wasn’t because he needed ME but because he needed sleep. After reading a book about sleep, I started putting him to bed earlier and earlier to find his “sweet spot” where he was tired enough to sleep but not so overtired he’d fight sleep. It was very difficult and counterintuitive to me (when I got sleepy as a kid, I’d just sleep, wherever I was, which my son didn’t do). So I was honestly grateful for that doctor’s take on sleep, it was pretty much the only parenting book I ever read because I was desperate to figure out what was going on with my son's sleep. And it helped so much.

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Valerie's avatar

I had a similar situation with my oldest. I learned that sometimes they need to cry for a few minutes. All are healthy and independent adults now.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Children are all different and what works for or suits one doesn’t necessarily suit another. It was so hard for me to “get” him because he was so different from me! I could always fall asleep anywhere if I was tired enough and never fought sleep.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I learned something similar, just by observation, realizing I had to watch for the earliest signs of sleepiness (such as rubbing an eye with a fist) and then act. He wouldn't want to go back to the bedroom, but I just told myself something we said in the Army: "When in charge, take charge."

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RunningLogic's avatar

I kept reading about those signs and watched for them but he literally never made any of them, until he was already overtired 😕 If I waited till the the signs came, he’d scream and cry no matter what I did until he finally fell asleep. So I just had to keep trying different bedtimes before he showed the signs and that worked great. He’d fall asleep without a fuss, easily and quickly. But if he got out of his routine and got overtired, it took some patience and time to get him back into it.

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Dr Linda's avatar

My Son did not want to sleep alone. I let him cry one night (for longer that I should have).

It never happened again. I think that choice contributed to the end of my marriage.

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Fla Mom's avatar

How awful! Our son slept with us *a lot.* So much easier to nurse at night that way, and though my husband wasn't a fan of being kicked, he did love the closeness. Co-sleeping must be the way most of humanity spent babyhood throughout human history.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I loved co-sleeping. With twins it was a necessity

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RunningLogic's avatar

I kept my kids in my room when they were babies but in their cribs next to me. I couldn’t sleep when they were in bed with me. I didn’t need to be even more sleep deprived than I already was 😆

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I love all these comments. I think this goes exactly back to my first comment. We’re all different and just need to follow our instincts. There’s no one size fits all solution because we’re not one size fits all people.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Absolutely! I noticed that because of who we are there is a significant amount of overlapped. I find it comforting.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Same. 🩷💜

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

He is a weird but real thought. In the beginning when my children were toddlers I was a bit worried about so many things. But what stopped me from taking them in for most things was our insurance. We mainly had disaster insurance. If I were to go to the Dr. It would cost me close to $100 . Could not afford that. So we stayed home and I figured things out. I learned a lot. 180 degrees. So does the co pays nowadays make it easier for people to use the system and become reliant on a terrible and false system.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Exactly!!!! When it doesn’t cost much people go to the Dr for every little sniffle. When it comes out of your own pocket….hmm might need to rethink that $150 Dr visit.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Yesss, I learned about herbs, better foods , making do, and also being patient and calm.

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RunningLogic's avatar

My experience with socialized medicine in France confirmed that—people go at the drop of a hat and get meds for everything. Some are homeopathic but they always seem to come away with some sort of prescription 😕

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

At least some are homeopathic. 😊

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes. I did like that part. Homeopathic medicine is used quite a bit in places like Germany. Switzerland and France. Also chiropractic/osteopathic care.

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rolandttg's avatar

I'm old enough to remember when moms did not take their kids to the doctors for (incurable) colds. Now, these droids have been mind controlled to believe doctors can fix anything by giving you a pill. Jim Willie predicts the Khazarians will actually turn the jabbed into zombies by using 5G to activate the jab material and the (we all have this) nanobots in the chemtrails. I say they are already zombies. I did not think they could get worse , but every trip to the gym has me shaking my head. Face fornicating their phones as they walk in, while they walk around, between sets, while on the aerobic machines, while talking to people, and lately, while doing ab crunches, pushups, even on weight machines. Wow. The only thing I can see that will make them more zombie-like is if they start trying to eat us.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or random limbs start falling off 😆

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Alison Smith's avatar

That group she posted in was from Australia, which had much more severe vax mandates than us. Do they also follow our CDC?

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NAB's avatar

Australia's political leaders went full tyrant and I imagine the pressure to vaccinate was unreal and I say that as someone living in NY under Cuomo/Hochul regime.

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rolandttg's avatar

That's what happens when you give up your guns. I remember it was only one false flag that led to the fascists hovering up all the guns from the Aussie sheep. don't get me wrong. I love Australia and the Aussies. Actually tried to buy property there 25 years ago. But, very disappointed how the population just rolled over.

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NAB's avatar

Totally agree. The populace has been conditioned to accept tyranny.

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A.J.'s avatar

How long were they colonials and then commonwealth "subjects" of the British crown?

1788: 1st penal colony established (New South Wales)

1829: 1st "free" settlers arrive (Swan River Colony/Perth)

1901: Australia becomes a commonwealth of the British Empire

1986: Australia granted independence from the United Kingdom, cutting all legal ties but for retaining the British sovereign with his or her face on its currency

2023: removal announced of QE2's face from the Australian 5 banknote leaving no more U.K. royal faces on the paper currency. British sovereign's face is still on all the Australian coinage

Thus, colonials or commonwealth subjects for 198 years and still subjects of the British crown. Last Australia referendum to end monarchy and become a republic in 1999. Vote was 54.87% to retain it. To have and retain full human freedoms, one usually has to fight for it.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I don’t know, but doesn’t it seem like the US leads and others follow?

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TB's avatar

Funny enough, the Canberra region where the posters were from did not actually have a blanket vax mandate (though some businesses or professions did), in particular not for kids. And though it did mandate masks it had a fairly lenient exception clause. It's probably because all the politicians hang out there - Canberra is the Australian equivalent of Washington DC. Very liberal-leaning, I imagine the social pressure to take the vax would have been massive given that everyone was saying it's the "right thing to do".

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Bingo. The majority won’t think for themselves. Throw in all the social media & MSM programming and we have an even bigger problem. Our own intuition & gut feelings must be listened to

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! This.

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MayBella82's avatar

And many doctors think that they are God. I get tired of them telling me how I feel. I would think about 59+ years on this earth, I know the difference between a sinus inflection and a cold.

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Jeff C's avatar

Good news in Argentina but remember how happy we all were when Georgia Meloni won? After a lifetime of right-wing comments the moment she got into office she turned into a globalist shill.

Unfortunately it appears to take both independent wealth and a fearless disposition (i.e. Trump) to resist being bribed, bankrupted, or blackmailed into succumbing to globalist/neocon agenda. Godspeed to Milei and frankly he kind of looks like a nutcase. Hopefully that's a good sign in that it shows he's not worried about being liked.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yes we've already seen that Milei is comprised. He's doing the "Israel First" thing now. Pure globalism.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

He may be more sensitive to it because Iran was responsible for blowing up a Jewish center in Buenos Aires in 1994.

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rolandttg's avatar

5 will get you 10 we did it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

We did it.

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Jeff C's avatar

Read an article that said he's fascinated by Jewish culture and regularly meets with a Rabbi and discusses it. As a Christian I'm fascinated by the Old Testament myself, and enjoy studying it, so I can understand that.

The bigger concern is if that translates to unconditional and unthinking support for the modern state of Israel. One can appreciate some of the positive aspects of Jewish culture without becoming a knee-jerk Zionist. Time will tell.

Edit: By Zionism I mean the idea that the Jewish people are *entitled* to a national state in Palestine. It's a relatively new idea with roots in the 19th century that many influential Jewish leaders opposed. Zionism is not the same thing as Judaism despite the two constantly being conflated.

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Tom's avatar

This whole topic is fraught with misunderstanding.

Talmud is not Jewish culture, it's commentaries by Rabbi's of other Rabbi's commentaries, steeped in kabbalah and the commandments of men.

Levitical Judaism cannot be practiced without accepting and believing in Messiah Yeshua. "If you believed Moses, you would believe Me." Any third temple will not be Yahweh's temple.

Any successes Israel has in war, they will attribute to themselves. They are not following Yahweh into battle. There has been no "man of God" who has brought the Ephod to proclaim that Hamas has been given into their hand. Because, in prior times, Yahweh communicated through His prophets, and in present times, he has communicated through His Son.

I LOVE Yahweh's people. It was His delight to choose them as an example to the gentiles. And it was His will to partially harden their hearts for the sake of the gentiles, so that we would see his Word play out through history.

And soon, the favor will be returned. The fate of unbelieving gentiles will be contrasted with the fate of those in the gentile (and Messianic) church who believe in Messiah Yeshua, as an example to the Israelites. Israel will envy the Church, and will mourn as one mourns for their firstborn son! They (all of us) will look upon the one they have pierced! (Gentiles are wild olive branches, GRAFTED IN to the cultivated tree!)

Be an example of faith in Messiah Yeshua!

Pray that He will soften the hearts of those who will worship Him in Spirit and in Truth!

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Jeff C's avatar

You are absolutely right in that the topic is fraught with misunderstanding. How many Christians think that Judaism is simply the Bible without the New Testament? They know little to nothing about the Talmud which is Rabbinical Judaism, i.e. Pharisee legalism. Many parts of the Talmud (written hundreds of years after Jesus' resurrection) developed with such legalist nitpicking they now nearly directly contradict the original commands of the Torah.

In addition, they think the issues in the Middle East stem from a conflict between Judaism and Islam which couldn't be further from the truth. It's specifically Zionists vs. Palestinians in that who owns a rightful claim to the land.

This type of confusion doesn't happen by accident IMO.

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Tom's avatar

"This type of confusion doesn't happen by accident IMO."

Amos 8:11 tells of a famine, not of bread, but of hearing the Word of the Lord.

We have been warned of the foolish virgins who had no oil in their lamps.

We have been warned of apostasy.

Daniel 12 warns us of the shattering of the power of the holy people.

He's coming for a spotless bride, and that spotless bride has only His righteousness to boast of.

Brother, stay in the Word. Know that Yahweh is good, and glorify Him, no matter what you see. He knows the end from the beginning, and everything is happening according to His will! Be of good cheer; one day soon we'll worship Him together!

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Johnny-O's avatar

Intel from Mossad?? I'd take that with a HUGE grain of salt...

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

From what I was told by that woman who owned the B&B I stayed at, it took years to finally determine who did the bombing.

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Jeff C's avatar

Yup noticed that too, not a good sign.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Yeah, Jeff wrote like it was a good thing to model yourself off of the US and Israel. Yeah, what shining examples of justice and democracy we are!

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rolandttg's avatar

Yeah, and Melei just said he is taking Argentina out of BRICS and aligning with the (dying) dollar. Hope he's not yet another trojan horse.

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Dr Linda's avatar

That caught my attention as well.

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Tom's avatar

Independent wealth is not enough. Those who have it feel that it insulates them from the troubles of the world. It can be threatened. Buy a $1 billion dollar egg in a hyperinflated currency and you'll understand.

It takes a worldview that holds wealth in low regard.

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RunningLogic's avatar

—“And the new mRNA drugs will work this time! They promise.”

Just like an abusive boyfriend, “I’ve changed, really! I promise this time things will be different!”

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FourWinds's avatar

Right! And these stupid RSV "vaccines" are mRna, targeted at 60 and above. I guess the first clot shot didn't kill enough old people.

These pharma companies are satanic.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

VA pushing covid shots and flu shots to be given together.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

😡😡😡😡

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Aryenis's avatar

Didn't even some official medical authority acknowledge that people are more likely to experience side effects from the combined jab?

Maybe VA is getting a discount on all those combo doses that no one wants.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, I it was the FDA that warned about the danger.

Geez...I guess VA didn't get the memo.

But how did they come up with the age limit of 85 or older? Does that mean if someone is 84 years and 6 months they are safe?

https://www.health.com/covid-flu-shots-stroke-8391595

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FourWinds's avatar

Even our pharmacists recommend against doing both at once.

What is WRONG with the VA? Rhetorical question. I guess the more they kill, the less they have to help. Although one of my coworkers is a Vietnam vet and he's gotten some good help from the VA, but I never asked about the jabs.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The VA advertises it like they are doing us a favor.

"One visit. Two vaccines."

https://www.va.gov/initiatives/covid-flu/

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Dr Linda's avatar

Exactly!

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Roger Beal's avatar

And the jabbee's response when questioned? "I can't help myself, I love the bastard."

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly!!! 🎯

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AnnR's avatar

The BIGGEST victory in my mind re: Milei's victory is that honest elections CAN be held, even in the midst of mind-boggling, banana-republic, corruption. There is hope for us in 2024.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Did Dominion fail to buy Argentina? Looks that way.

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Kim's avatar

Agreed! I have to keep sane by focusing on the positives.

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Christy's avatar

So the military is begging people to rejoin after kicking them out. And the incentive is $50,000 bonus.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s like the hospitals firing nurses for not taking the shots and then hiring travel nurses for a lot more money 🙄

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Politico Phil's avatar

Hey, it's only paper money. They'll just go into the back room and print up whatever they need. The only thing these people know how to do is to "buy" what they want. Maybe someday Americans will stop selling themselves to them.

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Christy's avatar

That’s a HUGE GIGANTIC ENORMOUS maybe!!!!

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rolandttg's avatar

$70 with college. Remember it is our money they are handing out here, just like our money is being used to first jab them earlier, then pay for their medical bills once they succumb.

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rolandttg's avatar

That's another industry Jeff was looking for when he asked for how to "buy" the plandemic fallout.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Hahahahahaha! I could not care less. Glad my husband is not a military guy.

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Peace's avatar

Which branch/es? I haven't seen this!

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Christy's avatar

The US Army

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Peace's avatar

Hmm. having some recruiting issues amongst the current generation it might seem.

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NAB's avatar

Stop it! Seriously??

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MOMinator's avatar

Hahaha James Carville = 🤡🤡🤡

“They want to spy on you…!”

Has he been living under a rock? Ten rocks?

Our govt has been spying for awhile now, Mr Carville. I believe Obamas administration put the domestic spying program on steroids, and Biden has greatly increased the dose!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Don’t forget Bush and the patriot act! Bush is a fraud and he and his family have laid the foundation even before obummer. They are all criminals.

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MOMinator's avatar

Yes! Thanks, Sunnydaze.

My realization that Bush was not a good guy started with listening to a group of architects and builders on 9/11/21 (I forget the name of their organization) speaking about the proof of US planning/involvement.

When I heard Bush’s speech about J6, I understood the evil there. A huge disappointment, but not really a huge surprise.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I wouldn’t mind hearing about that. I’ve seen enough evidence to be convinced of our govt involvement into 9/11 but others need more convincing. If you have a link to that or know how I can find it I would be interested.

And yes, not surprised about Bush about J6. He makes me wanna vomit since I woke up in 2016. But in 2001 I was all in on the psyop. Now. I. Just. Can’t. Even.

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HHM's avatar

Book by Judy Wood, Where Did The Towers Go?

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MOMinator's avatar

Yes, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, as per Emumundo. ae911truth.org

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Emumundo's avatar

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth. They KNOW that jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt the beams in that building. There used to be a video on YouTube that showed a jet running into a building with similar construction. It burned for over 16 hours and the building never came down. I think Jimmy Dore is having a rep from 9/11 truth on his podcast soon. WTCs were engineered specifically to stay standing if a plane crashed into them.

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MOMinator's avatar

Thank you :)

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Betsy Frost's avatar

It is all projection.

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Tamsin's avatar

Exactly. We're in a theocracy right now, but the god is Lucifer, or Moloch, or both gods, and more. An ugly pantheism masquerading as science.

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WilliamD's avatar

Those polls which have a candidate running against a "generic candidate" from the opposing party are worthless, because one part of the choice binary depends on the preferences of the voter. as does their voting choice. The margin of error is therefore indeterminate.

Here's why. If I ask you if you would vote for Trump or a generic Democrat, you insert your most preferred candidate into the "generic" slot before stating your choice. For you, that might be Barack Obama. For somebody else, it might be Hilary Clinton. For a very rotten person, it might be Adam Schiff. And so on.

In such a poll, the named candidate is running against a composite of the best possible set of the possible range of opposing candidate choices rather than a single candidate. But only one opposing candidate can exist in the real world, and each hypothetical opposing candidate will AT LEAST be less desirable to the population in total, than to the subset of respondents who are plugging "Barack Obama, etc." into the equation. A hypothetical generic candidate will thus always outpoll ANY single candidate, sometimes by a very significant margin.

In order for polling to work from the standpoint of mathematical statistics, all but one parameter of the question and answer must be fixed. If more than one parameter is open, it's like trying to solve an equation for two unknowns with a single equation. You can't do it.

Having said that. my overall takeaway is not so much that Joe Biden is unpopular, but rather that the inherently unstable Democratic coalition is fracturing before our very eyes. Abortion may hold them together in a few locales, but they are in very deep trouble with Biden or without him.

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Alison Smith's avatar

All polls are fake.

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WilliamD's avatar

An ethical poll uses the principles of mathematical statistics to derive estimates about a population using only a small sample of the population. It is a mathematical miracle when it is done correctly. David Axelrod and many other high ranking Democrats most emphatically do not believe these polls are fake, but they obviously aren't paying attention to the "generic candidate" response because they aren't' stupid.

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Jeff C's avatar

The coalition is fraying but I think the bigger cause is that people can see that things are just awful. A bag of groceries is $100, a house costs half a million (assuming you aren't in a city where it's much more), homeless drug addicts are everywhere, infrastructure is falling apart, and those in charge don't seem to care. Even more so, they seem to be actively and intentionally making it worse.

The old saying "all politics is local" has been shown to be true over and over. A gen Z'er driving an Amazon truck can tell they will never be able to afford a home if this keeps up. Global warming and trans rights don't see all that important when lunch at McDonalds is $20. It's undeniable that things were better under Trump despite him being a "hate-mongering fascist". Idealism can get tossed aside pretty quickly when it costs people their standard of living.

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RunningLogic's avatar

To bring Carville back into the discussion, his comment of “it’s the economy, stupid” always does seem to hold true.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Praying your last statement is proven true at the ballot box next year.

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Dena's avatar

Conservatives must overwhelm any voting machine cheating with their votes. The msm does it’s best to create a defeatist narrative “ what’s the use- they’ll only cheat”. So - just roll over & give up? Of course paper ballots & 1 day to vote makes most sense, but in most blue states it seems the machines are here to stay - no in person even allowed. So for now we have to play the hand we’re dealt. Also - the wins in Louisiana prove local is where change is most possible.

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Peace's avatar

You cracked me up with this line:) "For a very rotten person, it might be Adam Schiff." And your breakdown of "the generic candidate" was very helpful - thank you! Reminded me of what happens when we see people with facemasks on - we complete their face in our minds using our most preferred nose and mouth features. I worked with a couple of individuals for a full year who were masked - when masks were finally removed, I was shocked in a few cases at their actual full face and the reality was not as flattering as I had made them to be in my imagination.

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Kim's avatar

I’m a teacher and still see a couple of students (at a Christian private school whose parents are doctors) STILL wearing masks. Masks have been the hill that I die on. NOT wearing them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It makes me 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🙄🙄🙄 every single time.

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Peace's avatar

The school-age kids are, surprisingly, some of the last to give up their masks. It seems to be a confidence thing as they came to enjoy not having to show their face due to lack of confidence in their looks.

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Kim's avatar

I tend to agree although one student in particular is super cute and I think she has just bought into the idea that they keep her safe. She takes off the mask from time to time altogether but ends up with it every day. She has another friend who just won’t take it off. Her family is the family of doctors but her brother, who was terrified of becoming sick, has finally dropped the mask altogether. Many students said they liked the mask because they could hide behind them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Kind of like when you hear someone on the radio, and then you see their picture and they look nothing like you thought they would!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great post.

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LuAnne's avatar

Just for kicks, I typed "Milei" in fb's search field. A ton of both int'l & US Corp media articles appeared and virtually all of them appeared to be having split pea vomiting, head spinning reactions to Milei's win. That kind of reaction only confirms something really good happened. Another win here is that Milei used alternative media platforms to get his message out. It's another sign of how badly corp media is losing. More please! 😁

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good morning!

I have to say, when I got the notification and read the title of today’s round up, I burst out laughing 😁 Jeff you’re just hilarious and have such a way with words 😂 “Pliable as jello” 🤣😂

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Based Florida Man's avatar

A 3rd Buffalo Bills player went down, but it wasn't from a hard hit.

Some are pointing out they may have been Vaxxed from the same, bad batch.

https://twitter.com/Osbournegreen/status/1726417019887657436

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Fred's avatar

🙏🏻 for Rapp; hadn’t heard about him.

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Renee Morris's avatar

Thank you for the heads up, BFM! Here is an X post with the replay, which appears about half way into the tweet. https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1726374754007884189?s=20

Also, viewers will see a very thin Damar Hamlin caught by the network’s coverage, looking on as his fallen teammate gets taken off the field.

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