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SB's avatar

I think Trump changed things. There are reps now who will not vote if Trump is on the ticket. I know many of them.

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LMWC's avatar

Trump did change things. He won Michigan, PA, Wisconsin, in 2016, all of which are purple leaning blue. They even demanded a recount in Michigan and found he had 12000 votes MORE. He was a 24/7 newsmaker for msm, but for the blue collars across this Nation, he got them. None of you were ever to a Trump rally. If you had, you would understand why he beat all the odds. He got us.

What has he done that is so bad? He’s arrogant, he’s loud, he never admits mistakes? Tell me one who isn’t. What has he done? Against Congress he got a wall started. He wanted Obamacare dissolved, something the GOP in Congress had been promising if they got control, then they turned around and sank that ship. Purposefully. He visited troops quietly In Afghanistan on Christmas. He helped lay wreaths in Arlington cemetery for the Wreaths across America project. He got passed the “Right to Try” law. He bolstered the infrastructure as much as he could with executive orders. So many things that the media never talked about. He was attacked like no President ever and what was his crime? The msm was 24/7 against him. Covid made me realize how fixated and insidious the msm was in destroying this man. The fact that he is leading every poll ought to tell you something. He is not Superman and no candidate is going to get us out of this mess until we realize it took years in the making, it will take years of fighting back.

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daverkb's avatar

He had heart and a sunny warm longing for a better America from a better time. Who else was like him in 2016?

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CH's avatar

Right? The only other choice was HRC and there was no way I was ever voting for that evil POS.

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korigon's avatar

I agree he has done a lot of good and is also a very flawed person. But all the tantrum throwing over his being mean comes off so disingenuous as Hillary, Biden, etc are not nice people either and it seems you can't criticize any off them without it being deflected to Trump.

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CH's avatar

The MSM vilified Trump so that people watching only saw the bad things. They never showed his true nature. I've said all along there was no way Biden truly won because of the sheer # of people that would show up for Trump's rallies. I think there are a lot of Republicans that say they won't vote for Trump but in the end will change their minds based on who the choices are. I agree that our country is lost if he loses in 2024.

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SB's avatar

What he did wrong was go against the machine. They adored him long before they despised him because he spoke truth the machine didn't want out.

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Leo's avatar

Plus, Trump gave us The Vaxx and The Lockdowns! What a guy -

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Only after a vast hysterical population proved that critical thinking no longer exists, is long dead annd won’t be returning anytime soon and demanded those things.

Trump left lockdown decisions to each individual state and would have never mandated vaccines.

Your hatefulness is showing.

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Janet's avatar

He was a sea change in current politics. Not sure where this will end up. I kind of believe tucker that we ain’t seen nothin’ yet. The trump derangement in democrats around me bodes ill. Bad vibes.

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SB's avatar

Unfortunately, many on the right have Trump derangement syndrome, too.

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rolandttg's avatar

I used to think that, but now I realize they are not on the right, not conservatives, and certainly not thinkers. They are RINO's. Sorry Jeff, but until you come up with a better term, that is what I'll call them.

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LMWC's avatar

🎯

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Willing Spirit's avatar

It’s an appropriate term.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I pray continuously for his safety. He’s still alive because they haven’t come up with their perfect plan yet.

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daverkb's avatar

Trump held candle light against a sea of dark corruption. Who else could have done this in such an effective way?

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LMWC's avatar

🎯

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Karen Murphy's avatar

Can you ask those non-Trumpers what specific policy they don’t agree with. And make sure they at least vote for what effects them most: local politics.

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rolandttg's avatar

It' like asking a climate cultist to iterate any facts that support their position. You may as well talk to a turnip. After the 2020m steal I had a conversation with a rabid TDS black I know from familiarity at the gym. Did not know about the TDS, and he initiated the conversation. He said Trump lost all of the cases appealing the selection. I told hm no, none have been tried. The courts all refused to even hear them. The killer was when I told him Trump once had a black girlfriend. He said he was a racist. I repeated, and made sure I said girlfriend, not a date, not a lay, someone he was seen with regularly in public, " I don't care, He's a racist". How do you respond to that type of stupidity.? Haven't talked to him , or even said Hi since.

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Niki Stone's avatar

How do you respond that that sort of stupidity?

It oddly comes from men mostly in my research and if I can be bothered I usually say...

'Don't forget to get your booster and flu shot at the same time. It's safe and effective. Don't worry about the COVID cock response. It's normal. Your pre vaccine erections will return soon and it could have been a lot worse.'

They don't usually respond 🤣 not many people want a link to prove that!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Actually white liberal women are worse.

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rolandttg's avatar

sadly, the worst

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CH's avatar

Absolutely the worst

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Niki Stone's avatar

I probably get mostly men as I scare women. They know not to even try to gaslight me 🤣

Baring in mind I use my real profile and I keep a troll count, so I don't mess around with it insults I focus on facts. I give a major mind fk when I access the potential of them being paid, then I say, I'm not going to even open your reply, so don't waste your time. They usually reply anyway as I make sure they fuming to show how unhinged they are.

I try to keep a post on troll take down methods at the top of my page.

But the key is to... go after facts. Like the Danish studies on gender affirming care, the arrest of the journalist that debunked pizza gate for the pedo ring, or the leader of the C40 cities getting caught trying to pay for the lancet to alter the science.

When they don't respond with a thanks I'll have a look, I either go straight for the troll takedown of... your IP address is being recorded with your Nazi support and you will be tried for war crimes - this usually result in all their messages deleted within 10 mins or them crying that they dont understand.

With woman who support the WHO sexualizing of children, I call them pedophile enablers and ask if their own lack of justice for their sexual assault is causing them to behave like this - and ask why they support chopping off the beast of tomboys.

I really dont see many women in the NWO infowar.

I spend around 50 hours a week researching and trolling and have been doing this for 3 years and am perfecting my troll take downs.

It's like a game to me.

And I do believe it's our civic duty to do this considering how much they invested in manipulating us.

I don't play around with them any more. If they give me any indication they are paid, I tell them outright we want them hung like the rest of them.

Or my favorite go to on C40 cities is I hope they rxpe your loved ones first... Don't forget me when it's too late.

That really messes with the heads of the men.

This is war. And making the paid trolls think twice is the tactic for the front line.

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CH's avatar

There are some people who will never see the light but then there are others that are going to shock the crap out of us. It happened to me when I had a conversation last spring with 2 inner city black men while sitting in a waiting room. One of them was actually who initiated the conversation. They are very angry at the immigration problem and what has happened to our military.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I wore my ‘not guilty’ Trump T-shirt to Publix here in Jacksonville one day. The young black bag boy told me he admired Trump and appreciated what he had done for black colleges and the economy and a few other specifics.

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LMWC's avatar

🎯

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SB's avatar

IDK, they just hate him. Think he's arrogant. Can't get past it to see the good he did. The area where some of them live always goes conservative anyway so their argument is also that their vote doesn't matter.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

There are MAGA who will not vote if President Trump is somehow ‘removed’. And they will not vote for the duration of the conceivable future. I am one and I know many.

That ‘removal’ would signal the end of the usefulness of voting, except possibly in very local, tribal sort of contests.

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CMCM's avatar

So if Trump is the candidate, these people will vote for Biden (or another D puppet)?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Take heart with this from my favorite TCTH commenter, Dutchman:

“ DeSantis was by far and away their “Plan A”.

They put a LOT of work into sculpting his image as Americas Governor.

The plan was the others on the debate stage would just act to support his candidacy, to give versimilatude to the lie that the primary process was a contest (this after PDJT was knocked out of the running early on by the MAL raid and indictments.

And yes, Nikki would be positioned to be Rons VP.

Point is, with RDS crash/burning they are trying to promote nikki, without 2-4 years of sculpting and propping.

If RDS couldn’t cut it, Nikki or anybody else has no chance.

You heard Ryan, they still believe 50% of Republican voters really want “somebody other than Trump to save the R party from MAGA”.

They believe that cause thats what their internal polling data SAYS; That around 40-50% of REPUBLICAN VOTERS THAT RESPOND TO THE POLL, say they are open to somebody other than PDJT.

But they ‘don’t know what they don’t know’, which is that MAGA do not do polling, and if they DID, that # would shrink to 10-15%.”

The Trump haters are annoying and noticeable like mosquitoes at a picnic. But they are definitely not the force they wish they were.

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SB's avatar

Vote libertarian or leave it blank. Which are both votes for Biden unless they live in a really red area

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