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ERRATA

— Bennie Thompson district corrected (Mississippi)

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

13 Sep 25, Update on Demented murderer of Charlie Kirk: https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

CNN, on their broadcast said "Investigation intensifies in trying to determine motive"... It's highly likely CNN was aware of this information and chose to black hole it.

First person shooter video game freak and living a deviant, sick lifestyle - motive?

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I was aware of several prayer vigils that were held for “right wing activist” Charlie Kirk yesterday. I couldn’t help but notice the complete absence of burning buildings, molotov cocktails, overturned police cars, smashed retail store windows, vandalism, looting, rioting, blocking off entire interstates, or any behavior even approximating malice or hostility. A subtle contrast in attitude and demeanor from events that occurred just a few years prior. The difference between experiencing the destructive force of an out of control meteor and the serenity of an aurora borealis. Chaos vs. Stillness. Grieving is not a singular expression…apparently.

Respect though, at least George Floyd’s “mostly peaceful” protestors were conscientious enough to wear masks for everyone's protection while turning their cities into ash. You can’t fake that kind of concern.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

We just are not the same people. And yet, we are the people who carry. Funny, that.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

👍The fact that we're not the same is precisely why I carry. I'm not enthralled with lugging this damn thing around all the time. Considering the possible consequences, the conundrum is minimal.

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162.550's avatar

In Florida we can now open carry. This just happened yesterday and Sheriff Wayne Ivey confirmed it yesterday.

“Effective immediately, my deputies will not arrest anyone solely for carrying a firearm openly. The court has made it clear: the Second Amendment means what it says,” Ivey said in a video statement. “I call on every sheriff and police chief in Florida to follow suit and stand with the people we serve.”

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Please don't open carry. Its a really bad idea. Concealed Carry, always. Don't let anyone know you have the ability to end them with lethal force, else they might see your open carry and make you a high priority target. I sure would. When I see anyone open carrying my first thought is, "them first if the sh*t hits the fan." You don't know if they are a good guy or a bad guy and you probably wont have time to figure it out. Anyone who has the intention to use a weapon is not going to be intimidated by someone stupid enough to open carry.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Also, who needs that kind of public intimidation? There's enough fear afoot as it is. Better to take the enemy by complete surprise.

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David K Thiel's avatar

Correct sir. I have long said we should have Constitutional Carry, meaning no license and open if you want to, but continue to CC for safety.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

We have constitutional carry in Arizona, every state should have it, but for the gun grabbing lunatics who don't want you to have the ability to defend yourself. And, so that it is easier for them to shoot you, as we witness with our brother Charlie Kirk - who we must stand for now and for the future.

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kittynana's avatar

@Dan- I've seen open carry and have wondered why someone would give someone else the upper hand.

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Dave Slough's avatar

Excellent post never thought about open carry in this perspective

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I prefer open carry. Much like clearly marked police cars. The purpose of the black and white is enforcement through visibility, tell me you disagree. You've all seen the brake lights when a clearly identified cruiser is spotted. The more law abiding citizens that open carry would result in a drastic reduction of petty crimes.

How many female joggers are attacked when running with their German Shepherd?

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162.550's avatar

I've literally never heard any evidence to suggest a criminal looks for the guy with the gun to attack them 1st. On the other hand some of these psychos doing mass shootings have documented plans that mention using gun free zones. Living in Florida it's a pretty good assumption that a lot of people are carrying. My CCP class 30 years ago was loaded with senior citizens. I can see decent arguments either way as far as concealed vs open carry.

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Robert Horwitz's avatar

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kittynana's avatar

@SPH- there's a sh**ton of mental illness going on nowadays due to more potent street drugs and mind altering pharmaceuticals. People aren't who they were in the 60s and 70s.

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Lori's avatar

kittynana, you forgot to add the covid jab.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, I disagree.

Apples and Oranges SPH.

Actually, the more people that CC and understand the consequences, and are well trained and ready and able to fire, the more people will know not to start something because they don't know what danger of death lurks for them. If someone open carries, then the bad guy knows who is first. The object is to not be a victim.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

I see your point. There are good arguments for both, I guess :^/

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Herodotus II's avatar

I was taught that criminals are opportunistic, i.e., lazy cowards -- and often seek the path of least resistance. This school of thought aligns with the deterrence theory, which would make OC the most helpful community engagement. However, in times of antifa, trans-shooter mania, gamer-sickness, and a general loss of moral grounding among the left along with an increase of funding for darker projects -- OC seems like it could be less a deterrence ala Deadwood, and more of a tempting challenge to the LARPing loonies, as well as another coveted sidearm. The times they are a-changin; I may be wrong -- I still see many FOOs as proper for OC Good Housekeeping -- but I'd think twice, and not automatically assume. 'The readiness is all'.

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Dave Slough's avatar

Good point

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Seriously?!!…we can open carry???!!!

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Fiona walker's avatar

From the UK… we can’t even carry a penknife or a bottle opener!! Unless of course you are a crimbo, in which case you can carry a big ducking machete. Luckily our hapless UK inner city crimbos have no idea about gun maintenance so the things often go off in their hands.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Sad to see the UK hand their nation over to Muslims. I have no desire to ever visit the UK (and several other Euro counties) again.

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SteelJ's avatar

What? Any decent firearm can be kept for decades, fired regularly, never cleaned or lubed, and be ready and safe for use the next time. I'm not saying that's the optimal way to go, particularly with semi-autos which may not cycle reliably without some maintenance. Pumps, revolvers, lever-actions, and of course bolt actions are gonna work regardless, unless you manage to get a bunch of sand or gunk in them.

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kittynana's avatar

@Fiona- I'd pay to see that happen.

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162.550's avatar

Haven't verified with Pinellas County Sheriff yet but I saw Ivey on X yesterday stating the quoted words. Suppose Polk County Sheriff or even Desantis will weigh in soon.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

From what I can gather it still needs legislative approval.

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Bruce Seibert's avatar

According to the Constitution's Bill of Rights, "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." That means you have a God given right to be armed in both private and public. State laws prohibiting the carry of firearms ARE INFRNGING on that right, and are thus, ipso-facto, unconstitutional. I went though the motions of obtaining a license to carry a high capacity firearm, just to be in compliance with unconstitutional Massachusetts State laws.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

But in heavy blue Alachua Co our sheriff said he won't allow it until further review... which means, until legislative review...

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Just occurred to me: had Charlie been assassinated before Nov. 5, the FBI would have dragged out the search until Jan. 20. Had the killing taken place even earlier, it would have become marked a cold case. Am I way off base here? 33 hours from gunshot to a cozy room in the county motel.

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Jen's avatar

I thought about this yesterday. That I am so thankful Bidens minions didn't get to botch this investigation.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Indeed, we have the Butler investigation as precedent.

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Fran Angel's avatar

We shouldn't take our eyes off the 71 yr old man originally detained, he's a useful idiot who caused enough distraction for the killer to get away....he may be more involved than we think

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CStone's avatar

Another thing we need to do.

When entering a store, notice where not just the emergency exits are. Grocery and big box stores have bakery exits, loading dock exits, garden area exits.

We counted 27 ways to get out of our local Walmart. Quit being oblivious (our family calls it ‘bolivious’).

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Peace's avatar

"bolivious" - family words are the best!

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

This from Eric: "The fact that we're not the same is precisely why I carry. I'm not enthralled with lugging this damn thing around all the time. Considering the possible consequences, the conundrum is minimal."

And this from JC: "However we got here, whether our incompatible opinions were sharpened by bad actors to destabilize us or not, the time for debate died in a tent in Utah."

We have tried debate for too long. Fuck the left, fuck all of them, they represent the asshole of humanity except they aren't even necessary to rid oneself of excrement - they just repulsively stink. A lot of them need to go to their final judgement and we need to hasten their trip. Then, maybe they will stop.

This too: "But where did leftists like the rando from BlueSky cited above get that idea? From experts, of course. Experts in the academy. For but one example (of many), consider this title published last year in the Georgetown Law Review:" Note the not so subtle use of the word "trigger" which happens to lunatics when they hear something they don't like, they get "triggered".

Finally, while I'm at it, does anyone want to bet this punk played "First Person Shooter" video games day and night, and was completely desensitized towards killing?

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

It's pointless to try to reach a deranged looney bird.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

It is.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Sorry but all this anger and open carry would not have prevented Charlie Kirk’s murder.

We’ve got to keep using words til they are so sick of hearing terms that they are not triggered. Take back the press and academia.

Words are not violence. Teach that.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Open carry is a fool's mission.

The left has carefully cultivated their violence, have carefully and thoroughly taught that words are in fact violence - for generations now. They have prevented guns where they are most needed to ensure lots of dead bodies so they can blame us and guns... but its always them doing the violence.

They do all the violence, when was the last time you saw political violence from the right - don't say J6 - that was all manufactured, all fake - except for the murder of Ashley Babbitt and who did that?

They need some of their own medicine Doc.

Right now, they do violence, they are released to do more that same day. At this point they have carte blanche from most of the judiciary and too much of law enforcement. They mock on social media. All of that must end. What if Maxine, Chuck, Hakeem, Zuck, Gates, Swalwell, Nancy, Hillary, Omar, Ocasio, Soros (evil demon and spawn), every democrat senator, DeNiro, etc, met their early demise. Would the rest STFU? I'm betting yes, especially if they stick their heads up in public and get schwacked.

Would it be nice if we could take back the press and academia? Yes, it would help, but it won't happen over night if ever, the folks that became billionaires with our tax dollars and deep state active support/intervention will hold on to media like its their lives - because it is. It's easy to say take back the press and academia, but very hard to do - especially when we have s_Elections instead of Elections - do you believe we have real certifiable elections - sincere question? President Trump - who by the grace of God survived at least two assassins that we know of and we know there are more willing because of the rhetoric spewed by the left - taking the money away will help, it will help to shutter and or miniaturize all the leftist "Institutional Democracy" agencies built by the uniparty against our will over decades to keep their boot on our necks. It will help to restore law and order.

But how many more of us need to die before enough is enough. Wednesday was enough. For the umpteenth time. It's time for 2A justice for a lot of scum, God gave us the 2A for this time.

One other thought. perhaps the "anger" will make everyone pay better attention to their surroundings, have a means to defend themselves and others, and speak up when they see something which isn't right. Once again we see videos now of people who saw the slimebag - who assassinate Kirk- moving into position on the roof top and did nothing to stop him.

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Lori's avatar

Hold on Dan, lol! Don't down the anus. It has a more important function than any left lunatic does.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I lug two.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Sometimes 2, but usually just the 1 plus extra loaded magazine, pepper spray and a blade. Welcome to planet earth where the possessed frequently mingle.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Followed my son to drop his Audi off at the mechanics this morning.

As he retrieved his briefcase from the back seat, I noticed him placing his Sig Sauer 365 inside his belt at the small of his back.

I thought to myself, “Good.”

Such is the state of daily life these days.

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kittynana's avatar

@Fre'd- tell your son I'm jealous. And not of the car.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I was carrying a 380 for backup, and bought a Springfield 3.3 in .45. It’s actually a horrid thing as a first responder. So I ditched the 380, and carry that sob. Carry the full frame 645 on my hip. So now I got 18 rounds of .45 ready. I have trust issues.

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

"NO amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams" Maya Mendoza

Take a risk today and leave the rest to God.

Christians carry weapons to protect the innocent.

Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.

I subscribed to the Washington Post today

get out there.... TAKE A RISK

That's what Charlie Kirk did every day all day.

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shibumi's avatar

I'm in a purple state-- blue cities, red everywhere else. I live everywhere else.

After the school shooting, our Catholic pastor gave a talk about safety, as per the bishop. At the end, he talked vaguely about "special training." It was obvious he was talking about people who carry.

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WP William's avatar

Our Colorado Dems out yesterday decrying "Gun Violence" and lack of "Mental Healthcare". Like Satan patting your back after kneeing one in the balls.

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Beth's avatar

And a couple of knives.

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Doohmax's avatar

I always say that you may need your firearm one time in your life, you better have it with you. Whether you escape from a situation depends on how closely you adhere to that statement.

The retired lady in Auburn, Alabama who was slaughtered while walking her dog in a public park had done that time after time after time. Who knows?

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Dave Slough's avatar

True words

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I still haven’t purchased a holster, so my permit doesn’t do me much good.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Funny as a funeral!!! I believe the people perpetrating "civil unrest" carry plenty of dangerous weapons--totalitarian doctrines, abuse of anyone who disagrees with a philosophy that paints people 'marginalized' and 'disenfranchised' and preaching this 'destructive doctrine' in our media, our schools, our universities, even our churches--destroys ANY kind of 'open, honest discussion and debate (which Charlie Kirk championed and practiced his entire 31 years of life on planet earth!).

I am heartsick about Charlie because, to me, he represented all that is RIGHT AND TRUE about our once great country - he gave me HOPE for our youth who are totally awash in the sick stuff that circulates on the worldwide web. Parents of our children today were raised on video games and "social media" influencers....so they have NO CLUE what a good parent should do with their kids. There are always 'exceptions' to the mainstream menage - that it's that small sector who will be our country's 'salvation' in the next 20 years.

I'm ready for Yeshua to call my name and say "COME UP HITHER"!!!

Jehovah Jireh!!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The people who want to take away your guns are the people committing murder.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Typical “rules for thee but not for me” mindset 😑🙄

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Lori's avatar

Boom!

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nancylee's avatar

of course we are all the same people. you have now bought in to exactly what mr global wants you to - to be divided bitterly amongst ourselves while the top takes everything including our freedom and lives.

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Kathy's avatar

The act was undoubtedly evil, but so is the massive psyop which has been perpetrated on the country for decades, to divide and conquer. These globalists managed to turn many of our friends and family members into totalitarian foot soldiers. And when we hate them I was an entire group, we are sucked into the psyop

too, just in a different way. It’s possible that some people directly pushed this assassin, the way undercover operatives pushed the group of people who were allegedly setting up a “ kidnapping plan” against the governor of Michigan. Or perhaps it was just the culture itself with social media and algorithms giving us an echo chamber, feeding us with results and bots that enrage us. We can’t give up on what Charlie Kirk was trying to do. I don’t think it’s a total coincidence that this thing happened just a couple of days before millions of people are taking to the streets in Europe in populist protests against their bullying governments, due to happen on Saturday the 13th. The globalist are terrified of us coming together. The Covid thing was a psyop, but let’s make sure our understandable outrage is focused upwards towards the oligarchs, WEF, WHO, Black rock, State Street, Vanguard, etc. They benefit from this, as they do from every war. I know that brainwashed people are dangerous, and violent people must be tried and prosecuted. I agree sickness has metastasized in the Democrat party. But we have to remember where this is coming from. Keep praying for a way out of this mess.

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AZGal55's avatar

We are not the same people and that is why we are divided. We are polar opposites. The left wants to burn down this country and has tried. We saw riots, and billions in damage across this country, physical attacks on conservatives and even murders during the 'summer of love' . The left kills the unborn, wants to transition kids with irreversible surgeries and drugs which sterilizes them, is anti traditional family, anti God, anti free speech when it doesn't align with their ideology, is anti law and order, wants open borders, hates this country. Other than being human beings we have nothing in common. They rejoice when a conservative is murdered at the hands of one of their ilk. Right now there are people on the left thrilled over the assassination of a 31 year old husband and father, Charlie Kirk. We have nothing in common with these people. Nothing.

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CStone's avatar

So. You want us to sing ‘Kumbaya’ with those who want us dead.

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Jay Horton's avatar

BOOM!!! There it is! Set up like bowling pins.......

Later Jay

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nancylee's avatar

knocked down. it gets to wearing thin.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

When Julius Caesar was assassinated by senators because of his Ideas, it plunged Rome into civil war. The result? The Republic was replaced by an Empire. The assassination of Charlie Kirk will not end him. It will only make him larger. Larger than life.

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shayne's avatar

It appears the assassin was a 21 or 22 aged young man. He confessed to a Minister and his family. His brain isn't even properly formed to make decisions. This is what many of our youth are becoming.

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Essay33's avatar

I reject the notion that his brain wasn't formed enough to make decisions. My son at 22 was married and an officer in the USAF. And he grew up in Southern California surrounded by leftist Hollywood people (for real; kids in his school were actors or the children of actors). 22 isn't an unformed child. This one knew damned well what he was doing when he got a gun and aimed it at Charlie to kill him.

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Fiona walker's avatar

And what was Charlie doing at 22? He had already set up Turning Point.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Essay,

I agree. If you don’t know by the time you’re 21 that it’s wrong to murder someone, than you will never know. The kid received a $32,000 scholarship, so he wasn’t stupid.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

My oldest grandson got married at age 20 and became a Delta Endeavor pilot at age 22.

This endless childhood nonsense is a quite recent development in human history.

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Princess Thunderbutt's avatar

Delta Endeavor=DEI. Sorry but no. No to DEI pilots. Off topic but just NO to that bullshit. It’s more of the same liberal men-can-have-babies nonsense that is crashing us. Delta is willing to crash us for the cause. Don’t fly them!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

My grandson is a gifted, brilliant individual and absolutely no DEI hire.

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Essay33's avatar

Hey there, my son left the USAF as a Major two years ago to go fly with (wait for it) Delta! So don't be dissing Delta.

The in joke there is "Delta, we're woke, but not as woke as United."

Seriously though he's been treated very well and hasn't had the freakish crap inflicted on him he experienced under Biden's military.

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CStone's avatar

WS read this!

Charlie lived his life for God as though he meant it! May his memory be a blessing.

https://open.substack.com/pub/professortoto/p/the-kirk-konnection-riveting-prophetic?r=u7fs9&utm_medium=ios

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Willing Spirit's avatar

He was a wonderful human being.

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Pammyomammy's avatar

Amen, thank you for saying that.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

100%

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

He wrote adolescent jerk sayings on his bullets. LMAO etc. He was brainwashed like so many of our public school youths. But he had a brain full of mush, like wonderful Rush used to say.

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Lori's avatar

I will agree with the WEF on this one: useless eater.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 12Edited

His brain was formed enough to make and carry out this plan and run away. He knew exactly what he was doing. Now we know what to do. Trial, swift death penalty.

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Jeff S's avatar

Then, slow and painful death. I like vengeance.

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Jay Horton's avatar

And I like you.....

Later Jay

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Mike's avatar

Likely I'll be dead and gone before this murderer gets the death penalty exercised on him!

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Lori's avatar

Keep hoping.

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Fiona walker's avatar

An informed young brain needs to wallow in its bedroom listening to The Smiths or Nirvana before emerging over it all at age 30.

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Lori's avatar

Yuck to both bands, lol!

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Fiona walker's avatar

Exactly! Although I do have a soft spot for Morrissey.

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JasonT's avatar

It would be instructive to carefully debrief him to learn where his ideas originated, he didn't get to this place from a vacuum. The Left will oppose the idea.

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Roger Beal's avatar

...and ask him who signed his paycheck for committing the deed.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I think you are sniffing up the right tree Roger.

Waaay too many unanswered questions, and the reporting of information has been all over the map. I encourage everyone not to rush to judgement, the enemy we face is much more sophisticated than a young adult with a bad idea.

Please recall the Butler attempt that murdered a civilian. Young male adult about the same age. Crime scene cleaned up almost immediately and the body cremated within days. Investigation over, nothing to see folks, move along.

No, there's something else afoot, this was much better planned than what we are being allowed to see. Too many people want DJT eliminated and they have failed. Now they are working a little further down the food chain, in my opinion hoping to stop DJT by assassinating those that have meaning to him.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Agreed. The other team has a deep playbook, compiled over the decades by the communist and actual fascist states around the world, and possibly funded by the usual globalist suspects. "There are trillions at stake", as Sundance often says.

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JasonT's avatar

That is a possibility but is not appearing likely. Occam is still right.

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shibumi's avatar

There is a rumor he was communicating with someone on Telegram before the sh00ting.

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Lori's avatar

there. it. is.

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Debra's avatar

Here are potential places his ideas originated from:

Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Citizen Sleeper, Commando's, Street Fighter and the list goes on and on of all the killing games.

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JasonT's avatar

Games don't turn a kid into a psychopath without additional influence. The steady drumbeat of Death to Republicans has had an impact on a generation as shown by the reaction of so many.

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Lori's avatar

and dont forget the covid jab.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

How large were these cartridges to do all this writing on!!!

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shayne's avatar

I agree

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Lori's avatar

truth serum should do it.

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Beth's avatar

I don't think this guy acted alone. Charlie Kirk was a future presidential candidate. That couldn't have been lost on the powers that be. And as with everything else, I don't trust anything the media says. That was too perfect a shot. And the guy could have confessed to get attention. I'm holding my judgment until we really know what happened because it's bigger than an upset listener.

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Juju's avatar

Of course he didn’t. He was texting with someone on Discord about where to find the gun and about engraving the bullets etc. it was all coordinated through a chat. Who? Who enlisted him and guided his itinerary? And who are they attached to? I believe it goes a lot deeper and I think Patel knows it too.

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Mike's avatar

DO you honestly believe that you will ever know really happened???

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Beth's avatar

Nope because I am leaning towards Mossad.

We still don't have definitive answers on 911, JFK, Oklahoma... And this will be scapegoated and swept away.

Then again, Bibi is facing a lot of internal conflicts, we might find out more with Trump in office than at any other time.

Well, a girl can dream...

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Of course; go straight to the JEWS did it.

Was Charlie about antisemitism?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/avi-abelow-tragic-loss-legacy-truth-remembering-charlie/

Is this the time to spread hate?

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jmsmithmd's avatar

It was meant to enrage and divide us all. Baited hook.

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Lori's avatar

we were already divided from the lunatic dems and thank goodness.

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sonya's avatar

Soros and the wef and UN

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Don't forget the DCA and GOP sonya. We are battling a very entrenched machine that does not like change.

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CecilRhodes's avatar

The Daily Mail has a story where they say he "liked guns" and "wore a Trump costume for halloween". This is why we loath the press. We all know the impression they are trying to paint. I was very surprised that they also have another story showing the 2017 (!) social media post by his mother who clearly is a piece of work. He's not wearing a Trump costume, he's riding on a hunt Trump effigy with possibly a brother with a gun at 14. It's disturbed. What sort of mother is proud of this and posts it? She deserves to be shamed on memes with AWFLs make their own Frankensteins. It doesn't matter to me if she lives in a red state and goes to church. She's an AWFL wanna be and boy did she succeed.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m wondering if the parents were together. I read the father is a law enforcement officer and the one who confronted the alleged killer, ‘when he came home.’

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Essay33's avatar

Good question. Dad is the one who, with the help of "a religious leader" got him to turn himself in. I'm not sure what the mom's involvement is.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I want a public execution. Utah still has a firing squad. Let it be televised.

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Healing Stories's avatar

You are falling for the show. The guy is a patsy. Too easy to solve in “33” hours.

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Debra's avatar

Do you think he has been a video gamer since he was a little child? They start the killings games at age 5. We live in a world of male gamer's who are killers.

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Juju's avatar

It’s not the games that turn a kid into a killer, it’s the gaming community arm that is indoctrinating and grooming kids via the gaming environment - through the in game interactions and texting as well as the apps that support the games from the outside. Not ALL games, but the evil has infiltrated the gaming community because like schools that’s where they can reach them.

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Beth's avatar

That is a VERY good point. That was an incredible hit. No accident.

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TamalpaisRose's avatar

Another patsy story to distract and/or assuage the people. It seems more that it was a professional hit.

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Essay33's avatar

Anyone who hunts with a rifle can tell you this was a very basic shot, from not that far, using an old school hunting gun not a sophisticated weapon at all, and his aim was likely off (you aim for center mass; nobody, not even a Seal, aims for the neck). But don't let that stop the conspiracy theories.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Shayne,

His father turned him in.

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Juju's avatar

After a family member approached the father

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Juju,

From the credible sources that I have read, he confessed to his father and his father took him in. It’s a moot point and I am not going to debate it.

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Sep 12Edited

My source was the explanation given by both Patel and the Utah governor this morning. It’s what they said. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I wasn’t trying to “debate” anything. I was just correcting it.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

They say the brain isn't totally mature until about age 25, so you are technically correct. But 21 is plenty old enough for high level reasoning. He should have known better.

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Lori's avatar

and add in a covid jab....

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Full Name's avatar

Biblical age of adulthood-12 years old. He's as adult as he will ever be...

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Fiona walker's avatar

The he should have wallowed in his bedroom listening to The Smiths or something, like we used to.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

That vile skidmark actually threatened suicide when his dad saw his pics and braced him...

He was talked out of it and his minister called the law and they took him into custody...

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AngelaK's avatar

His father was in law enforcement and the parents were Republicans. He was taught to use forearms from a child. He was an excellent student with bright future, but a culture which does not believe in right and wrong and which does not believe in God, which hates Christians, which possesses the soul with hate (and hate provokes evil and violence) through social media and the internet, got to him. That along with access to guns caused this murder.

I do not think that the culture of guns in the home is a good idea with emotionally vulnerable young people today, UNTIL they are of a stable adult mind.

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Jeff S's avatar

Let's hope so.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

One calming factor is that conservatives know we would be taxed to clean up the mess. The ability to realize the consequences of our actions is a defining feature of those with common sense. Also, I believe we are actually grieving Charlie's loss. Floyd's death was just a convenient cause to reference for the unrest that followed, basically just an excuse to riot.

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Tom's avatar

Astute observation. They weren't grieving Floyd. They were USING him.

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Kathy's avatar

And those who were using him were also being used by a psyop to divide and conquer us, while500 new billionaires were created during the pandemic. Everything is meant to distract us.

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Lori's avatar

who with a rational mind would grieve floyd. he was a useless, lazy drug addict and thief and the world is better off without him.

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Copernicus's avatar

One calming factor is knowing that killing and burning stuff is not a mature nor civilized way to respond. Destroying stuff is not going to bring Charlie back.

I doubt most of us even consider, oh, I'd like to shoot up downtown storefronts, but then they'll raise my taxes. No, the thought of that kind of violence doesn't occur to most of us. And if it does, we realize that is not the way. We submit to a Higher Power.

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Tom's avatar

It's the ultimate depravity for them to respond by saying, figuratively, "I will teach you a lesson by crapping on my own kitchen table."

Problematically, they then complain that their behavior is a result of the fact that someone crapped on their kitchen table. They are victims, you see . . .

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Lori's avatar

Dysthanizing it will be just fine. Then God can have it to provide its further fate.

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Jeff S's avatar

Charlie probably prayed for George...

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Saint George is a very appropriate hero to the vile sewer-scum that worship him.

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Jeff S's avatar

They sure do like druggies and rapists and murderers and child molesters.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

More even than whitey's welfare bucks or sweet potato pie.

Odd... but they seem to avoid deodorant or floss...

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Jeff S's avatar

I love sweet potato pie. Discovered it in college down South. They avoid deodorant and floss because they're French, too.

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Lori's avatar

ugh, i hope he was just neutral. i did not pray for that worthless drug addict.

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Janet's avatar

I was so out of touch by turning off all media at lockdown I had no idea that was happening until sometime later told about it. It was so peaceful in my head for a longish time. The left is still off. Off is the operative word.

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Lori's avatar

Off is not off enough.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

IMO, Kash and Blondi should be openly calling for a PARDON for Officer Chauvin... who was so obviously railroaded into prison behind a load of racial/negroid hysteria and lies.

Trump is a coward for not already issuing the pardon. Yes, the negroes would riot, loot and burn, but why would that effect righting a massive and despicable WRONG?

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Lori's avatar

send him to a nicer jail like they did with ghislaine.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Yes, at least do that... Chauvin has already been attacked and knifed...

Guess what was the race of his attacker?

Shocking injustice... Chauvin and fellow Cops are INNOCENT.

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nik's avatar

Prayer is what Christian’s do, we pray !!! For our enemies , our country, our families, for non-believers, for healing, for peace, for favor with God and men, etc etc….

Charlie was a Christian first, and who many of his followers are. We do things differently, because we are a “peculiar people,” it’s just who we are, our DNA in Christ.

It’s not a right/left comparison …it is light vs. dark . There is no middle nice gray, you either have the deposit of the Holy Spirit, or you don’t.

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Lisa Runquist's avatar

That's something i realized when the demo rats objected to silemt prayer - and then the Europeans did the same thing - THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT PRAYER IS, HOW TO PRAY, OR ITS EFFECTIVENESS. But we do.

Another thing - the reason they are against speech is that God spoke and it was done. Jesus spoke and his words carried power. He was the first born of many brethren - that means our words are also powerful in bringing His Kingdom to earth.

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kertch's avatar

Oh, I think many of them know what prayer is, especially the older generation, but they refuse to do it because it means humbling yourself before God. This is the first sin, the one that begat all other sins. No matter how intelligent or powerful you are, if you, like Lucifer, refuse to humble yourself before God, you will not be able to avoid the path to darkness.

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Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and depart from evil.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

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kertch's avatar

Amen

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In the beginning was the Word….

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Quiltlady's avatar

And we are in a Spiritual Battle we all knew was coming. Our only Hope is in the firm foundation we have in our faith in Jesus Christ. Prayer and living the Christian Life as outlined in Scripture has become our marching orders. We need to stay on the path God put our feet on when we accepted Jesus and we will be the army God uses to spread the Gospel.

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Sep 12Edited

This is an interesting read —I think that being a Christian is naturally divisive, our “identity “ is in Christ.

We are sealed by the Holy Spirit, which means we never walk in a room neutral .

So even if we love unbelievers —their response to us could be very hostile. As a reaction the the spirit we carry.

“To those who are perishing, we are a dreadful smell of death and doom. But to those who are being saved, we are a life-giving perfume.”

In my opinion . This, more than politics is responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk.

Darkness hating the light—it has no tolerance for it , it wants it to die.

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Dena's avatar

Given that our values & beliefs will never align there’ll always be disagreement. It’s a problem when the hatred for “religion “, really belief in God, cannot be tolerated by non believers. Satan is a liar & takes hold of many.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Your "foundations and beliefs" come from ancient Hebrew mythology... yes, the myths of the jews... who are currently slaughtering and starving masses of innocents in Gaza.

So Satan is not as far away from you as you imagine. He OWNS your closest cousins.

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nik's avatar

So true Dena !

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Lori's avatar

I don't pray for my enemies. No way, no how. If you can, good for you for being a better Christian.

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Dena's avatar

It’s not easy. Just pray that they have a change of heart.

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Lori's avatar

No way. My prayers go out to victims, not criminals or those filled with Satan.

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Lori's avatar

Yes, He is God and has the divine fortitude to do that. I am not remotely interested. My gratitude and appreciation to you for being able to embrace forgiveness and offer love and goodness to rapists, pedos, serial killers, torturers, genocidal maniacs, transhumanists, even someone who directly rapes, tortures or kills your child, more power to you. You are amazing. Wow.

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nik's avatar

You’re right Lori, God is perfect ❤️ Definitely too much evil in the world 😞🙏 May the Lord protect us all.

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Lori's avatar

And protect you for being able to love and do goodness to all those named above. In this world, you especially will need it.

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Luc's avatar

Isn't it interesing? The left doesn't realize they are applauding the death of someone that means THEY have the ability to spew their hate.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Left and right are a construct of the masters.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Makes "divide and conquer" work more efficiently.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

It is lonely being an American in a democrat&republican tyranny.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Hell, it's lonely having common sense, logic and reason amongst so much brainless rabble. My dog is far better to communicate with.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

And your dog can do something so few humans can...love unconditionally.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Mine will eat unconditionally….and he's quick to remind me. Damned internal clock.

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WP William's avatar

then crash the Party; literally attend a local Dem or Rep meeting (of regular people, not an elected official's townhall) and be visible and speak. Or remain detached, shrink back and be lonely like the masses. I made myself speak at a schoolboard meeting last week and at both a town trustee meeting and GOP sit-down this week--does it matter? NO, but screw staying silent under tyrants

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Kathy's avatar

That is truly ironic.

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Benghazi----->Charlie Kirk

Benghazi narrative (Obama/Hillary/MSM): The Arab street was stirred to violence because of an offensive video, "hate speech" made by a small indie Muslim immigrant who came to the US and "irresponsibly" abused his free speech rights. While the US Constitution protects speech some is dangerous and must be addressed. Free speech absolutism, unfettered free speech must have limits or it will instigate violent mobs who will destroy and murder.

Charlie Kirk narrative (Obama/D's/MSM): The American street is stirred to violence because of Kirk's offensive podcasts and public speeches. He irresponsibly abused his free speech. While the US Constitution protects speech some is dangerous and must be addressed. Free speech absolutism, unfettered free speech must have limits or it will instigate assassins who will murder.

When the Benghazi narrative was first introduced following the September 11, 2012 attack on the mission and murder of the US Ambassador there most of Obama's critics were focused on how security could've lapsed, how the rescue operation wasn't approved, what went wrong. But Hillary and Obama, Susan Rice made the case that it was the First Amendment of the US Constitution that was the culprit. The right was being abused, used irresponsibly, and the violent attack was a direct consequence.

Never mind that the video was obscure, had only a couple thousands views prior to it being named as the culprit and that nobody in the Arab street had even seen it. Another episode of the Obama "Apology Tour" commenced where US Ambassadors apologized profusely to Arab leaders, appeared on Arab TV programs apologizing, billboard across the Middle East were emblazoned with official US apologies for offending Islam, blaming a sole citizen for abusing his right to speak, promising to do better, by "educating" Americans" that with free speech rights came free speech responsibilities, to not incite or offend sensitivities of others.

Culminating with a speech by Obama to the United Nations that also blamed the First Amendment of the US Constitution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfiUQASpVdc

The words seem right, a defense of 1A, but also an apology for it. And while his words sounded non-threatening to even US audiences, the actions of the Obama administration spoke louder. The indie filmmaker was arrested and held without trial for months on flimsy accusations of tax evasion. "Yes, you may have the right to speak freely, but if you do authorities will find something else you did wrong and you will pay for it - show me the man I'll show you the crime."

This was a Turning Point in US history and the free speech rights we had taken for granted. A US president officially declared the First Amendment was too permissive, needed restraint. Instead of upholding the right to free speech as sacrosanct to American freedom he equivocated, blaming it for violence that led to deaths of Americans while "defending" it with weak words, his actions belied how weak his defense truly was.

https://web.archive.org/web/20121118143138/https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/rabbi-aryeh-spero/obama-clinton-blaming-video-benghazi-attack-did-more-incite-filmmaker-himself

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/white-house-contacted-youtube-anti-706839/#!

Charlie Kirk. Assassinated on September 10, 2025. Exactly thirteen years later a victim of what Obama's camouflaged attack on the First Amendment. All of the losses of our free speech rights we've experienced these past nine years can be traced back to the Hillary/Rice/Obama attack on free speech they made on the world stage following the attack on Benghazi. Trump supporters censored during his first administration, many deplatformed. Beginning with the Nick Fuentes's, Alex Jones's, those who had already been portrayed as having horns and toothbrush moustaches. Nobody said anything. (while porn hustlers like Larry Flynt had been celebrated as a free speech victory, the words of Alex Jones deemed more offensive than explicit porn.)

When Plandemic hit free speech of citizens and medical professionals who challenged the official narratives was deemed "dangerous" and censored, deplatformed. Then questioning election integrity was deemed dangerous and censored, called 'domestic terrorism" and 'insurrectionist,' many arrested for exercising their free speech. Even mememakers from 2016 were arrested, prosecuted and convicted for "election interference" dangerous speech.

Every single attack on free speech that we have experienced, many continue to experience in the US today can be traced back to Obama's Benghazi blame-shifting. It shaped the public mind in the US about free speech, shifted the entire left and many on the right to embrace 'limits' on free speech that may offend others. "Speech is violence" slogans began in earnest AFTER Benghazi, only had traction in small circles of radicals before then. His attack on free speech planted the seeds in the left today that we see playing out with bullets through the throats of political speakers. THAT was the biggest assault on America that Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi inflicted. THAT was the "difference that it made."

https://freedomfox.substack.com/p/at-this-point-what-difference-does

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Carlos's avatar

Even worse than what you mention above - that entire narrative is a lie.

Hillary had Christopher Stephens killed ON PURPOSE - because he was one of three to four people who knew that Hillary sent in sarin gas - thru Mossad operatives - into Syria - to frame Assad for "gassing his own people". Every story is a smokescreen of something far more nefarious...the story presents a false flag, to hide the OTHER false flag operation beneath it. In a way, it's the same framework technique as Nanci Pelosi's " wrap-up smear" tactics - that she shared while drunk in press conference.

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Yes, this what you say is true. What was behind the false Benghazi narrative was rotten, false flag, all of the above. But none of that was different than countless other administrations with dirty hands, doing dirty tricks the world over. What made the Benghazi narrative worse, in my way of thinking, was that it was an attack on the US Constitution, itself, the RIGHTS that are enshrined in it. The FIRST right of all that 'shall not be abridged.' That was worse. With longer term ramifications than even the death of a gun-running ISIS support international crime ring.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

A long post I hope people will read, Freedom Fox. Our loss of freedoms, given us by God, began to rapidly escalate after 9-11-2001.

I can't wait for AI to be fully developed, then we will be safe. (Sarcasm doesn't translate well in print)

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Lori's avatar

Keep talking loud and proud, no fear.

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Dawn B's avatar

Nobody was paid to "peacefully protest" for Charlie. He would want to rationally discuss the reasons why.

Why would someone do it?

What is the root of why people would rejoice in any murder of an innocent?

People have lost their minds, and they have nothing but evil in place.

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Janet's avatar

I’m going to preface speech countering the lies with Charlie’s own words. PROVE ME WRONG.

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Dawn B's avatar

We lost an exceptional warrior.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

The rest of us have to step into the breach with our own words.

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Mike's avatar

When you convince the great unwashed that someone is an existential threat, or a nazi or evil. its a short step next step to murder.

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Dawn B's avatar

Yes, and those people are easily manipulated. The evil has worn down morals for chaos.

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Melissa S's avatar

This video came up on my youtube feed today. Kat Williams from 2016 after the election where Hillary lost against all predictions by the MSM. Some language, but some good observations. One being that our side is not so good at rioting, although we have had some excellent examples to emulate: https://youtube.com/shorts/i7fjI9wCWfw?si=UEV07EViD7k05w9u

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John A George's avatar

Thanks, worth the watch!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

😂🤣😂🤣😂

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Lori's avatar

we are too busy working to riot so we can support the useless eaters on the dole.

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Jessica Libolt's avatar

Yep. I was just texting about this with my brothers yesterday. Weird, how nothing has been looted or burned down over this.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Maybe the destruction will start now, protesting the arrest of a suspect.

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Lori's avatar

Wait til we order the death penalty. They will go apeshit.

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kertch's avatar

Oh yeah? try suggesting public execution - their heads will explode.

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Mike's avatar

Next step will be a GoFundMe for the poor "church going" misguided young man (murderer) from Utah.

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kertch's avatar

This sounds like sarcasm, but sadly it's probably true.

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Mike's avatar

Yes to both

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Nah. The suspect is white.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, what we need is not the violence that is so typical of the left, but an unshakable determination to end the censorship that leftist ideology inflicts on everyone.

We need a hundred million Charlie Kirks, all speaking the truths that leftists cannot tolerate, over and over and over in every possible place and medium, backed up by good security and the willingness to instantly arrest and permanently imprison or deport anyone who tries to infringe our right to free speech in any way.

Free speech is not negotiable.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

You know that there must be a lot of good people still, even now, tangled up with the democrat party; so I ask myself, who are the good, decent, democrats?

Harold Ford comes to mind, so does Ruy Teixeira, those were easy, but there must be more - after all, there are millions of democrats. RFKjr and Tulsi were democrats. None of the devious, manipulative, MSM talking heads are anything but opportunist ideologues. I can’t think of one democrat in congress that I would want to live next door to.

This wasn’t always the case. There used to be a lot of really good people in the democrat party.

I can think of a lot of good liberals, but none have strong connections to the democrat party.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I have found Fetterman to be a very pleasant surprise.

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Lori's avatar

dont trust him. if he is so exasperated by his party, go independent.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I would not be surprised if he did so. After all Trump, Gabbard, and Kennedy, Jr. are former Democrats.

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Lori's avatar

It would be wonderful to see him make the move. He is the only one I have some hope in( albeit still very suspect).

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Lori's avatar

Nope. none. Leopards don't change their spots. If they are so good, they would tell their kind to shut up, sit down and stop their crap but all your hear is crickets.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

The last thing I bet Charlie Kirk would want is a mural painting on a building in a city that had been decimated. And any violence in his name he would repudiate.

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Lori's avatar

Absolutely not. they did that with loser extraordinaire floyd. Charile deserves better.

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NanaW's avatar

That was some good satire. 👍🏻

An art form the left can’t appreciate as they have lost all subtlety and it wasn’t programmed into them.

Well done.

Just another thing that shows how vast the gap is. The rubicon is wide.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

George Soros not alerted.

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Lisa P's avatar

I can't think of a single example of conservative protests/rallies ending up in rioting/violence without instigation by leftists and/or embedded law enforcement. And the only 2 cases I can think of where it was instigated are Charlottesville and Jan 6. I suspect the Trump admin is no longer going to allow violent protesters to throw bricks, set buildings on fire, etc and then be let free on misdemeanor charges. He's going to start charging them as terrorists and putting them into the federal system and given the J6 treatment. We're going to need more prison capacity, and we'll achieve with the Dems never could. We'll reduce the % black prison population and call it the MAGA version of DEI.

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Brahms's avatar

“Eric Swalwell (China).” Thank you for making me smile. It’s been hard lately.

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Jenn's avatar

Same. I actually chuckled aloud when I read that. Much needed. I heart Jeff every day. 😊

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

For me it was more of a BAHAHAHAHA moment, most appreciated and a most applicable description. 😂

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Keith Christensen's avatar

Agreed. Smiling at a clever insert.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Not smile, laugh outright. I am very glad I hadn’t just taken a sip of something, as I would have spewed it or choked on it!

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Julie's avatar

Made me chuckle.

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Padrig's avatar

Covering the Cover Up: This is a joke even before it gets started. Congressional Republicans have a lot to lose from this re-evaluation of J6. THEY LET IT HAPPEN. What we really need is a type of "Special Prosecutor" to evaluate the testimony before congress, the trial data of the persecuted, and the actions of all alphabet agencies.

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SM's avatar

Thank goodness someone said it 😂😂

That fella doesn’t know who to publicly represent anymore.

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Cabogirl's avatar

LOL. I caught that too. Love Jeff.

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Silent scorn's avatar

Yes that was masterfully done

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Cabogirl's avatar

I love your screen name. Silent Scorn. That’s great.

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Silent scorn's avatar

Thanks… it puts some people off but I prefer to be anonymous and it just stuck

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Juju's avatar

I can’t believe they would put both him and Crockett on this committee. Can they NOT find an honest Democrat to serve?

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Lori's avatar

me too Juju. And no to your answer as there are none. I hope it is a trap of some kind.

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Mac Worley's avatar

Was just about to post the same gratitude. I laughed out loud

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MC's avatar

Thank you for writing my thoughts down first 😂

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Flipflopgirl's avatar

I know, I too laughed at this. It has been hard. Hard to realize after all the horror this week people in this country are not phased by murder/assignation's or relish in the horrific act. Turning Point USA is where we are at. We can either continue on the path of destruction or revert back to a civil country admired all over the world. I hope it is the latter.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

A fine partner to Jazzbo Crockashit...

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Lori's avatar

She is so gross.

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Daisy Doodle's avatar

same - that one made me chuckle a little and boy did I need that 🥹

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

It has just been announced that the suspect is in custody.

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/trump-says-kirk-shooter-in-custody

I will repeat my comment from that post, however, because it bears repeating as often as is necessary to help prevent bloodshed:

We need to take all this news with an enormous grain of salt as the intellimafia works hand-in-hand with the media to concoct a narrative that will cover its tracks, and any presentation of this as a lone crazy gunman is the typical formula used to divert attention from the true perpetrators orchestrating public events to manufacture consent for tyranny.

What the killing of Charlie Kirk tells me is the intellimafia is desperate to kick off a violent culture war. They tried to instigate a race war during the 1960s and failed; I am confident they will fail in this effort, too, but it will not be without bloodshed, most if not all executed by the intellimafia and its hired agitators.

We can curtail that bloodshed, however, by identifying the Problem-Reaction-Solution pattern here as well as in all the other intellimafia’s handiwork over the past century:

1) Problem: Assassinate a controversial figure who engenders heated emotions on both sides ranging from admiration to revulsion.

2) Reaction: Violence, strife, exacerbated division, and civil war. This is the ingredient they want the public to supply, but they will seed it with their own agitators and blanket us with propaganda until people succumb (which I pray they won’t).

3) Solution: They will propose heightened totalitarian restrictions, data collection, Palantir-panopticon surveillance, and curtailments of our liberties.

If we repeatedly expose their trap instead of falling into it, they will not be able to justify #3. It is vital that we point our fingers at the puppetmasters rather than their puppets.

Please read the short introductory essay in my piece on the intellimafia from yesterday and help me spread awareness that our greatest defense against the intellimafia’s attempts to sow violent discord is to instead enter into respectful dialogue with our perceived opponents, listening to one another’s concerns, and trying to understand their perspective as they try to understand ours:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/memes-by-themes-20-the-intellimafia

In other words, we need to rehumanize one another so we experience each other face to face instead of as caricatured villains through screens.

To quote from my essay:

“The intellimafia wants you to think this is about left versus right, gender politics, immigration, race, Trump, and every other hot-button topic they’ve installed in people’s minds so they can mass-manipulate the populace at will.

“They want us to hate, feel outrage, blame the other, strike back, and dive head-last into uncivil war.…

“They want to toss out the ragebait and hide behind the curtain while we dogfight.

“We defeat their attempts to divide, dissipate, and decimate us by refusing to let them play our emotions, cognitive biases, and trauma like a well-worn record.

“We cancel their programming by remembering one another’s humanity, engaging in respectful dialogue, cutting the puppeteers’ strings, and alchemizing pain into love.”

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Politico Phil's avatar

Excellent advice Margaret. Glad to hear more saying this. .......................................................

The Turning Point: How Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Could Change America Forever

The real action is in the enemy's reaction — Saul Alinsky

https://maninamerica.substack.com/p/the-turning-point-how-charlie-kirks

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you so much for pointing me to that wise and wonderful article, Politico Phil!

I encourage everyone to read it (https://maninamerica.substack.com/p/the-turning-point-how-charlie-kirks) but feel the following part is worth quoting in full:

“The elites think they’ve engineered the perfect storm. They want us boxed in with no good options: violence that justifies tyranny, or silence that ensures it. Either way, they win.

“But that’s only true if we play by their rules.

“History is filled with moments when ordinary people refused to choose between the two poisoned cups laid before them. When they carved out a third way — one that exposed the lie, broke the spell, and pulled back the curtain on the whole illusion.

“This is that moment for us.

“Because if this really is the tipping point they’ve been waiting for, then we have a choice: we can be the fuel for their chaos, or we can be the wrench in their machine.

“And that starts with clarity. Knowing who the real enemy is. Refusing to get dragged into the theater of Left versus Right. Refusing to let fear, rage, or despair drive us into the traps they’ve built.

“This isn’t about matching their hate. It’s about outlasting their schemes. It’s about choosing faith over fear, courage over comfort, truth over lies.”

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J Boss's avatar

So we're in an AI version of The Wizard of Oz, eh? :)

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

That sounds about right 😆 Time to click our heels three times.

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Ms Helen's avatar

Shared.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Also, I posted my comment to this effect late yesterday..................................................

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/turning-points-thursday-september/comment/154924074

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JasonT's avatar

Alinsky wasn't wrong, he just turned his talents to evil rather than good.

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Flipflopgirl's avatar

And he happens to be Hillary Clinton's favorite person. What a shocker.

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LMWC's avatar

Excellent read. But I am fuzzy on his solution to “the narrow road”. What is the solution to wisely pick? As Charlie did do we continue to bring back the values of Christian principles this Nation was conceived on? Is that the solution to keep talking as Charlie did?

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Rick Plavidal's avatar

Our path forward is clearly stated in the Bible: Be Bold, Be Strong, do everything in Love

Revelation 12:11

And they overcame him (Satan) because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.

1 Corinthians 16:13-14

Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. [14] Let all that you do be done in love.

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LMWC's avatar

In other words, be a Charlie Kirk! Raise up 10,000 Charlie’s.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Support the constitution -all its amendments.

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Diane Jones's avatar

Go and make disciples! Our relationship has to be vertical to the Father before we can have horizontal relationship with those who hate us. Because He first loved me can I love my enemy enough to do the great commission! Only through Christ can we show that kind of love. In my flesh I cannot i think Charlie Kirk was an excellent example of that love. He confronted and debated because he was a disciple

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Lori's avatar

So what enemies do you really love? Rapists, Serial Killers, Pedos, transhumanists, genocidal lunatics, someone who would kill, rape or torture your child? I can't do that, can you really do that?

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Lori's avatar

Since you just liked my comment, that really gives me pause especially if they hurt your child. To desire to be around the depraved and malevolent and invite them to be near you so you can do the great commission...better you than me. If I had a hat it would be tipped to you. I never saw CK debate anyone on that level of depravity. Since you have that kind of love and desire to be around that, you should perform exorcisms as that would help tremendously too to help people. Please stay safe.

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Diane Jones's avatar

To your first comment. I had trouble getting to the comment to comment. What i was going to say is i hear you. Loving those that do such evil is not in me. I have had to walk away from situations that were toxic and found it hard to love the person. But what God's Word tells me I am to love my neighbor. If my neighbor is one of the things you mentioned how do I do that. I DON'T. It is Christ in me loving them. I am still working on that part to be very open and truthful. I think sometimes that can be praying for them from a distance. Sometimes it can be living a life before them that is honoring God and then that may mean walking away from the situations and trusting God for their soul. If I get it all figured out I will let you know but please don't expect it any time soon as.😊 I really wish I could give you a direct answer but all I Know is I have to trust my Savior and Lord to give me love a d wisdom.

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Lori's avatar

Even with Jesus I don't want to do it. I don't want to be near that kind of evil. It is not good for anyone. Small issues perhaps but that's where the line is for me. You are much braver than I, even with Jesus.

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Kathy's avatar

Yes! But I hope these attempts that dialogue will happen in venues that are easier to secure.

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Lori's avatar

We have seen their reaction. Read Bluesky comments.

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shibumi's avatar

I can't even imagine. I had to cut out my time on X for the past two days due to re-posts of leftists celebrating death.

But then again... if abortion is their "sacrament," I guess celebrating death isn't unexpected.

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LMWC's avatar

But are we to buy into the new solution to the assassination of Kirk by another supposedly deranged young, alienated outsider? Every fiber in my being screams this was a professional sniper hit, calculated to the nth degree, and put out by some global entity which our FBI, CIA, and president are well aware. Is this to give a panacea of safety to those in need? To calm the urge to violence by naming a young, white male as solving all the problems. Why is the pattern increasingly the same and questions never answered? If we can’t name the real reasons, how do we escape it?

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Verve's avatar

I really don't for a minute believe this narrative nonsense. This kid is the fall guy whose parents- one or the other- worked as a defense contractor or in the CIA- and I bet he's not even their real child. Just like Trump's attempted assassination and the shooting of 90 people in Vegas at that country music concert, this is a deep state operation which will be memory holed. Their ultimate purpose is to incite civil war and take away our 2nd amendment. We can't fall for this. It's all lies.

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WP William's avatar

they've made assassins in every community and can activate them at a moment's notice, then the cleanup crew and media narratives are in the wings

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

The “Network” clip I just posted in a Note (https://substack.com/@margaretannaalice/note/c-155225302) suits your comment well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo7sowaQzb4

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WP William's avatar

oh Lord, i'd forgotten that part! Homerun MAA

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JasonT's avatar

200 yards is not a difficult shot. Average hunters with stock equipment do it every season. I've come close to 200 yards with a small caliber rifle and a cheap scope, and little practice.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

💯🎯 Well-stated, LMWC. This comment outlines just a few of the indicators that this was a professional intellimafia hit:

https://palexander.substack.com/p/devastating-breaking-news-charlie/comment/154600710

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LMWC's avatar

Totally agree and yet this is what they will expect us to swallow because people want to believe it’s one nut job so they can go back to life.

“Professional shooter...

Here is why...

To recap:

Average Joe does all of this completely unassisted and without advance knowledge of location.

-Walk through campus with disassembled rifle undetected.

-Knows when and where to enter building to best avoid detection.

-Knows which stairs provide roof access.

-Knows that roof access doors arent alarmed or locked.

-Gets on roof.

-Dresses in clothes that mimic roof coloration to dimish profile visibility on roof.

-Assembles rifle.

-Moves into shooting position undetected.

-Knows that there are no line of sight issues on chosen roof.

-Gets in shooting position and makes shot adjustments for weather, line of sight, Kirks sitting elevation, audience, others on stage with Kirk and any unexpected shot impediment.

-Takes more technically demanding shot (not center mass) but head/neck shot because he knew Kirk wore ballistic chest protection (a theory of shot bouncing off chest protection being floated but hard to conceive down angle shot being directed upwards)

-Gets off roof.

-Initially avoids massive police response and escapes university.

Yeah sure… anyone average joe could do all of that by himself”

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Not an average Joe. He was highly intelligent based on mother’s YouTube posting of ACT scores and 4.0 average going into senior year of high school.

Yeah, he could have researched and planned all that.

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LMWC's avatar

Sorry, WS, I agree with the above. I am not buying it. This reeks of Butler, PA, Las Vegas, and Uvalde. It just doesn’t square. There is a reason they want us to accept this, but I won’t.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

He was not an average Joe.

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Mike's avatar

All done by a spindly 22y/o? He didn't learn this on a video game.

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Flipflopgirl's avatar

A 22 year old average joe.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

He was highly intelligent; not an average Joe.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Agreed. When our improved DOJ interrogates the asshat, they need to determine who signed his paycheck.

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Lori's avatar

excellent points.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Margaret, I echo and love your closing thoughts exceptionally:

““We cancel their programming by remembering one another’s humanity, engaging in respectful dialogue, cutting the puppeteers’ strings, and alchemizing pain into love.”

By being aware of the programming, we cut through the puppeteers strings. Love this.

Here’s what I penned to build upon yours: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/history-is-woven-by-the-stories-we

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Bard Joseph's avatar

" The Freemasons should control all men of every class, nation and religion, dominating them without obvious compulsion; uniting them through a strong bond; inspiring them with enthusiasm to spread common ideas; and with utmost secrecy and energy, direct them toward this singular objective throughout the world."

Adam Weishaupt, Munich 1765.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you for your kind words and crystalline observations, Franklin. I especially love your elucidation of the mathematical absurdity of news consumption as this is a point I find myself repeatedly making to friends who allow their perception of reality to be shaped by the mind-manipulators.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Cant be a suspect without a manifesto, which is being prepared.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

😆 (I think you mean has already been prepared and will soon be released to the public, though ;-)

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Jpeach's avatar

I do my best not to read or listen to anyone’s comments that rejoice in Charlie’s assassination. I’m angry enough. I also realize that most of those evil comments are from the Brainwashed who have been groomed by Marxist Institutions and Media. I prefer to feel sorry for them instead of being infuriated with them. Let’s methodically go after the real culprits. No more debate, no more extended due process, just ACTION!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

That is a smart strategy, Jpeach, and I would also say there is a strong possibility many of the most inflammatory comments are likely intellimafia plants to sow further division. Whether they are legitimate or not, I wholeheartedly agree we should methodically go after the real culprits. The intellimafia has been pulling our cognitive and emotional strings for too many decades; it’s time to cut them and reclaim sovereignty of minds.

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Peace's avatar

MAA - how do we "methodically go after the real culprits"?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Great question, Peace.

In my conversations with Vera Sharav, she often refers to herself as Toto. That is how we both see our roles. All we have to do is pull back the curtain, and the people will see for themselves that the Grand and Powerful Wizard is simply a man behind a curtain pulling the levers.

That’s when the collective delusion shatters, the magic stops working, and the Wizard can be dethroned and tried for crimes against humanity.

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Lori's avatar

go after all of them even the brainwashed as they will bring more mayhem.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

Yeah, okay.

I'm an American. I am not a "brainwashed" democrat&republican voter, so...

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

IF anyone you know has been gloating about Charlie Cook being murdered - screenshot it and send it to this soon to be searchable website: https://www.charliesmurderers.com/ They now have 20k entries to go through though...

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Lori's avatar
Sep 12Edited

I just posted a bunch to truthsocial

Lydia Fettig, a professor and academic advisor at the University of Michigan, who allegedly called Kirk’s killing “prudent” and “rational.”

Alana B. Hartman-Hall, dean of students in Chesterfield County, and Andrew Herrmann, a professor and associate chair at Oklahoma State University, who both suggested Kirk had reaped what he sowed.

Kristen Eve, a pre-kindergarten teacher with the Department of Defense Education Activity, writing that while she “feels” for Kirk’s family, “I suspect we are at a point where things are going to have to get ugly, get messy, maybe even get violent, to change this dumpster fire of a country.” She added that boycotts and reminders to vote “IS NOT ENOUGH.”And excuse my language, but fuck the high road,” Eve continued. “I am tired of having to be the bigger person while the other side destroys the world to line the pockets of CEOs and oligarchs. Charlie Kirk recently said that he thought gun violence victims and mass shooter victims are a reasonable price to pay for the 2nd Amendment. Fuck that guy. Ironic, isn’t it?”

Connor Grosshanten, who, after condemning violence, allegedly wrote that “our world is a better place without people like Charlie Kirk.”Connor Grosshanten, recent @lclarklaw grad and employee of Angeli & Calfo LLC, Seattle and Portland-based law firm (@ajcalfo).

Drew Harrison, a senior developer at Sony-owned Sucker Punch Productions, over his online comments. “I hope the shooter’s name is Mario so that Luigi knows his bro got his back,” Harrison allegedly wrote after sharing a post claiming Kirk “died doing what he loved: being a transphobic racist bigot.”

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Fabes55's avatar

I love this as opposed to the leftist/socialist/communist reaction of "mostly peaceful demonstrations" where they burn down towns.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Someone ask the lovely Randi Weingarten to share the Teachers' Union's offishul thoughts on the assassination, so we can have a preview of the vicious lies our kids will hear in class.

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shibumi's avatar

There are a few simple solutions to the lies that our kids are being told:

1. home school elementary and high school ages

2. trade schools if the kid wants more education

Why pay for indoctrination? You wouldn't like your child sit for X hours a day with a child molestor, why would you let them sit there with someone who is literally molesting their mind?

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Good to know.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

I agree that this should all be taken with an enormous grain of salt. I feel that the way this has been covered and Trump appearing on TV to announce "we got the guy" all seems like some kind of TV script. Lots of manipulation going on here. There are already Charlie Kirk T-shirts(referencing the killing) for sale on Amazon and there were a couple books already there on the assassination but they might have been pulled. I agree with Franklin's post--"being aware of the programming".

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Peace's avatar

I still can't figure out why there seemed to be a lack of concern for humans in the vicinity of the shooter. Did they lockdown the neighborhood?

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CH's avatar

There are many forces at work to divide us and they continue to do so because if we are divided using their "labels" then we are not going after them for the crimes they have been committing. It is way past time for us to shed the many labels, Republican/Democrat, black/white, male/female, etc, and come together to rid us of these snakes. Having said that, we on the right have been very patient. At what point do we say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and start using force to shut this crap down?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I agree with much of that CH but would clarify that the crap that needs to be shut down is the intellimafia’s systematic manipulation of the masses through the formulaic tribalism you’ve described. What many on the right object to in the leftist caricatures is a symptom of the larger disease. Cure the disease, and the symptom will resolve on its own.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

" The Freemasons should control all men of every class, nation and religion, dominating them without obvious compulsion; uniting them through a strong bond; inspiring them with enthusiasm to spread common ideas; and with utmost secrecy and energy, direct them toward this singular objective throughout the world."

Adam Weishaupt, Munich 1765.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Important words Margaret, thank you!

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Toobguy47's avatar

So true. I think there is a larger, global puppet master fight ongoing here, currently described as the white hats vs the black hats. They are battling out now who wins and thus controls us, but in either case, in the end we are still controlled whether by a demonic or benevolent puppet master. As for me, I don’t want either controlling me; I want freedom - freedom to think, speak, do what I want, respectfully and without harming others. Well, if their feelings get hurt, they will just have to grow up. This possibility is laid out in our Bill of Rights, our Constitution and nowhere else in the world. Not in any religion, theocracy, monarchy, or government.

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Janet's avatar

Thank you so much. I can refocus now.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I don’t see people reacting with violence, at all. Beautiful videos of peaceful and praise-filled vigils across the country attest to that.

What I do feel concern about is how quickly intelligent people are trying to find what I think is a premature closure in attaching blame to a single perpetrator. Law enforcement may have a suspect in custody who pulled the trigger but I hope they dig deeply into everything that led up to that moment. Was he “MK-ultra’d”? Were there co-conspirators? Was there a college club that committed to making this terrible act possible? Who funded it? Was there foreign influence? I really hope we don’t just get left with another patsy while the deep state gets away scot-free. Go all the way down the rabbit hole, investigators.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I am heartened to see the outpouring of love and kindness—that is exactly what I said would be our most powerful defense. And I completely agree about your concerns and hope people won't accept this bowtied conclusion like it's the end of the series and time for the next show.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Who ordered the hit?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

As the mafia arm of the government, the CIA generally handles these duties.

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John Galt?'s avatar

I might get flamed for this, but we have a rare opportunity to fully understand a radicalized 22 year old. He was deceived and he bought the lie. We need to study and fully understand him so that we can dismantle the elements of our society that begat him. Also, it will help us to disrupt the paths of others like him. The FBI needs to gather their best profilers and get to the bottom of this monstrous mindset. Besides, what would Charlie do? He surely wouldn't call for firing squads, public hangings, and the like. While the perp should never see another day of freedom, ending his life would make him a martyr and beget even more killers. Remember, this is somebody's kid, who until recently was probably relatively normal (unless we hear otherwise).

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I would agree with seeking to understand the psychology of someone who would do this, but your statement assumes a) he is guilty and b) he is acting of his own volition rather than being an intelligence asset, which is the far greater likelihood given the preponderance of evidence in this particular case and the greater historical context of this rinse-and-repeat intellimafia formula for high-profile assassinations to engineer societal changes.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Agreed. All the more reason to understand him. It appears others knew of his plot and potentially aided and abetted it. His guilt seems to be established by the involvement of his family and his church, assuming the initial hot takes are accurate. He may even feel remorse. Killing a man changes you, and doing it in cold blood more so. Assuming a greater plot is a stretch, apart from the grand plot to radicalize youths for the purposes of societal upheaval that Marxism relies on.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Good points, John Galt? :-) I have read the father (presuming he actually is) has antifa associations (which as I'm sure you know means intellimafia-connected), although I have not had time to corroborate that.

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Kathy's avatar

Exactly! If we descend into a civil war or come close, you can best believe that they will use it to crack down more on our rights, including more surveillance, leading to digital ID and eventually central bank digital currency. This is the game that they are hoping for as we tear each other apart. Please do not take my words as saying that we should ever be soft on any perpetrators. But we need to keep in mind the larger game being played.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Amen, Kathy 🙏

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Bingham22's avatar

Eulogy For Charlie Kirk:

My take on Charlie Kirk is a bit different than most.

Too few people are aware of what Charlie did for this Country. He saved it. Let me explain:

In 2008 a very charming Marxist came to power and as a human wrecking ball in a dapper suit, swept through the world, dazzling the youth, and decimated/destabilized most of the Middle East and the World. His target for “fundamental change” and to ultimately weaken and destroy the USA, was the youth…and the family unit.

At the same time that he came to power, young Charlie Kirk at 18 years old formed his Company, Turning Point. It was, and would prove to be a direct rebuttal of the persuasive Marxist/Socialist/Communist siren call, which was blinding the youth, and steadily eroding the Constitutional bedrock foundation of this Country into oblivion…and descending the World into chaos.

Fast forward. With the demoralization of the West complete: The weakening of the youth (and military) through institutionalized propaganda, gender ideologies, captured media and msm, a corrupt, self absorbed elite political class, and the gutted institution of the family unit and marriage, as well as a steady errosion of the Judeo Christian values that built this Country…the West was ripe for taking, and the globalists were salivating…ready to divide the spoils. The borders of all Western Countries were erased and the great invasion began.

2020: COVID, a created narrative and bioweapon swept the world and through unlawful permanent “emergency powers” the greatest wealth transfer in history took place as the globalists cemented their power, and all but destroyed the West and the USA in the process.

President Autopen waged a proxy war on Russia with the enthusiastic support of NATO, with the direct intent of a profitable WW3-the very purpose of the CIA-led Color Revolution in Ukraine in 2014, and the turning of that Country into the Money Laundering Capitol of the World, and the center for bioweapon research through Gain of Function, which gave the World SARS CoV2…aka, COVID 19.

Fast forward to 2024: The proxy war was going well, with war mongers raping the US taxpayer of trillions of dollars to fund it, the invasion of the USA was almost complete and tens of thousands of terrorists were in place. President Autopen had just about completed his/their mission of destroying the USA, but it wasn’t going fast enough. So Ukraine was given the green light to use U.S. tactical nuclear missiles on Russia…this right after they had used US made, and guided ATACM missiles on beach-going civilians in Russia, a war crime, and a red line if there ever was one. Unknown to most of the West, thanks to the capturing of MSM across America, Canada, Europe, and Great Britain, the world hovered on the knife’s edge of thermonuclear WW3. The green light by the Deep State controlled USA to use nuclear weapons on Russia was designed to be the final tipping point, the start of their much hoped for WW3. The only reason that didn’t happen was November 20th 2024…the winning of the US Presidential Election by anti-globalist Donald Trump.

Meanwhile: Quietly in the background of the USA on College Campuses across America. Charlie Kirk and his 1,000 employees which had for 17 years been waging a counter war against the globalists NWO for a return to Christ centered and Constitutional Principles, and had successfully, against all odds, been able to open the eyes, and touch the hearts and minds of millions of college kids across America…were winning the youth vote, which would eventually save the USA in November 2024, the Presidential Election- Which would take the USA out of it’s headlong descent into communist ruin, and back to it’s original Constitutional Founding Principles…on the very eve of what the Globalists hoped would be WW3, and the culmination of the meticulous 70 year plan of the destruction of America, and the West.

Without Charlie Kirk, and his truly grassroots tireless effort to wage war against the Globalists and the Deep State, knowing that they would likely succeed in killing him…and doing it anyway. Without him, and that undaunted optimism and courage that he had, and his courageous team…this Country would have been destroyed, and fallen into the same meticulously controlled chaos that is overtaking Great Britain and Europe right now.

We owe Charlie Kirk a debt that can’t be repaid.

He is irreplaceable, but the baton he carried has been passed…the millions whose hearts and minds he opened will carry it from here.

Thank you Charlie Kirk, carry on the fight from the other side of the Veil. Heaven knows we need all of the Divine assistance that we can get right now, this fight is not over, and it will take all of us to win it, to secure…and maintain our Freedom.

-Jennifer Bingham

09/11/25

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Skenny's avatar

Charlie Kirk was a patriot on a level with Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. Like Franklin and Jefferson, Charlie wasn't perfect. But he proved you don't have to be perfect to be a Great American.

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Kathy's avatar

Beautiful. I think they were also other parts that clicked into place that helped save us. For decades the families of the vaccine injured, including children who had been permanently disabled or destroyed by vaccines, had been fighting to have their voices heard. Children’s Health Defense, established by RFK was an incredible resource for links to unpublished studies and voices of brave doctors and scientists who have been willing to sacrifice their careers in many cases, to warn us about the dangers. The Highwire and ICAN came into being in 2017 to fight for us. Then came the Covid shot, and some of us came to realize not only do they not care about us, they are actively trying to kill us or sterilize us. RFK has risked his own life for decades in an effort to protect us, and I have no doubt that the Maha movement, including many people who had supported him in his presidential run, were also instrumental in Trump‘s victory. This takes nothing away from Charlie or other wonderful courageous patriots. I had been tuned in to the war on “alternative”medicine (doctors who saved lives without conflict of interest )and repurposed drugs for decades. some of them were also murdered. Not many people know their names. It helped me see through the covid psyop, and how it had taken over legions of people all over the world. Our coalition of truth tellers and dissidents is growing in size and strength. Charlie is a true hero and a critical part in the war to defeat the globalist agenda. May we honor him by continuing to carry out his mission.

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Lori's avatar

Bravo. We will not let the Globalists win.

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Beckadee's avatar

TPUSA started in 2012.

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Bingham22's avatar

Sorry, you are correct. Charlie co-founded Turning Point USA when Barack Obama stole his second term in Office in 2012.

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JBell's avatar

Yes, Charlie Kirk came out of the Tea Party Movement!

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neener's avatar

Thank you for stating everything so clearly. Thank you .

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Ruth H's avatar

I would love to restack your comment, but don’t see how on this thread. Please post as a Note. This was an excellent summary and eulogy for Charlie.

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Lisa Runquist's avatar

Love this.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Anyone else notice the influx of famous people (among them weirdly Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce) pledging money for Charlie Kirk memorials and “murals”? I think there is a push to turn him into the George Floyd of the right.

It’s like they don’t know us at all.

We don’t and won’t ever worship Charlie Kirk - we worship his Savior, Jesus Christ, and that is who Charlie Kirk would want us to preach and glorify. We don’t want gold coffins or ritual chants in Charlie’s memory - we want the name of Christ to go forth, which is the most fitting tribute to a man whose faith in Christ was everything to him.

Well done, Charlie, “welcome to the place where you belong” (Well Done - The Afters)

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Tom's avatar

From time to time, I have heard reference of "Charlie Kirk disciples."

No.

Charlie would agree with me on this. There are no disciples of Charlie Kirk.

Only disciples of Christ Jesus.

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Lori's avatar

swift and kelce need to stay out of it. they are fakes and frauds.

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Jenn's avatar

My hubby mentioned the Taylor/Travis thing but I can't find any info on it. He said he thought he saw it on Apple News but I found nothing. Do you have a link?

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Apple news- is that right up there with government intelligence ?

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Jenn's avatar

I understand. This is why I was asking for a link. Thanks. 👍🏻

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Sorry, I just couldn't resist! 😁

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Jenn's avatar

That's what I always think when I see msm too. Haha

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Jenn's avatar

😉

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I will look - I think I saw it as just a passing headline on Fox News - I wonder if it was misreported?

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Horizons's avatar

I don’t like the mural idea. They would just be defaced. If he is to be buried they’ll have to hide or somehow protect the grave, the hate is at that high of a fever pitch.

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Phillip Zinni III DO FAOASM's avatar

As Charlie would have said, "Only Jesus "

https://youtu.be/_eQd3K2Fxp4?si=l2fAuHYBgdlJnijH

Casting Crown's Glorious rendition, "Only Jesus"

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Kathy's avatar

Hopefully, he can also become anonymous with the preservation of free speech.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

"Eric Swalwell (China)"

That is a biting comment, Jeff, you really put your Fang Fangs into that one!

I'll see myself out ;)

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JBell's avatar

🤣🤣

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

O LORD, how my adversaries have increased!

Many are rising up against me.

Many are saying of my soul,

“There is no deliverance for him in God.” Selah.

But You, O LORD, are a shield about me,

My glory, and the One who lifts my head.

I was crying to the LORD with my voice,

And He answered me from His holy mountain. Selah.

I lay down and slept;

I awoke, for the LORD sustains me.

I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people

Who have set themselves against me round about.

— Psalm 3:1-6 NAS95

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

— 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 LSB

✝️✝️✝️

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RJ Rambler's avatar

❤️

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Jamie's avatar

the One who lifts my head, sustains me. I will not be afraid! 🙌

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I watched President Trump and First Lady Melania at the 9/11 memorial ceremony yesterday and I have never seen them look so brokenhearted. Later, in a press gaggle the same day, Trump acknowledged that their minds were on Charlie during the ceremony and you could see the pain on their faces. Praying for peace and comfort for all those close to Charlie Kirk and the many more beyond that inner circle who still feel his loss keenly from afar.

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hon j's avatar

Oh they weren't checking their watches?? Looking around distracted like the prior fake/installed potus?? They're REAL humans, with God as their leader and savior....

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I love it when someone like you reminds of things we should NEVER FORGET!

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shayne's avatar

Yes, they did look brokenhearted

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Diane Nohr's avatar

I’m sure their thoughts were also on the miracle of a bullet not killing Trump.

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Lori's avatar

I don't see peace coming at all sadly and it appears to say this Biblically as well. What would we need the AntiChrist for to unite everyone for a time before the bottom falls out if we could achieve that ourselves?

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Abiding Dude's avatar

And yet he still refuses to release the 911 files.. only to protect the real perps, Israel and Mossad. Ditto the JFK files, for the same reasons. How about a new 911 Commission???

https://www.unz.com/article/israel-did-9-11/

And perhaps some of his sadness stems from his own support and funding of Israel's ongoing mass-slaughter in Gaza... "justified" by the obvious IDF False Flag of Oct 7...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/BsDzbG8gwtLN

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Monterey's avatar

It's amazing how the assassination was timed to completely obliterate focus on 9/11 and also obliterated focused on very damning vaccine information that was coming out over the last couple days in our nation's Capitol.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Multiplier for Turning Point USA? Let’s keep Charlie’s dream alive

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

ALSO DO THIS: IF anyone you know has been gloating about Charlie Kirk being murdered - screenshot it and send it to this soon to be searchable website: https://www.charliesmurderers.com/ They now have 20k entries to go through ALREADY...

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JBell's avatar

it's Kirk ...... Charlie Kirk

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

the spell checker sometimes goes nuts on here 😅

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Jpeach's avatar

I already donated but, will donate again.

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Lori's avatar

me too.

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shibumi's avatar

For what it's worth, I heard that Alex Jones (yes, I know) is going to start doing college tours. Hardly the best replacement, but at least he is doing something, rather than just doing... nothing.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/763255512998534

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MOMinator's avatar

Yes!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Will be interesting if the Dems crash out as bad as it could be. The redistricting alone is going to cull dozens of them. Seeing Hakeem Jefferies get shown the door would be great.

And Ilahn Ohmar with her foul comments on Charlie Kirk... why hasn't she been arrested for immigration crimes ('marrying her brother') and deported? Let's go!

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shayne's avatar

Waiting for President Trump to declare Omar unfit because of her comments, and deport her back to Somalia

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Lori's avatar

I would personally rip that rag off her head before she was shown the door.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Please, God, rid of us that vile, incestuous, nasty creature.

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Copernicus's avatar

"crash out". 😆

I had to chuckle. Our kiddo uses that. And in reference to us when we get a little, uh, overheated. "Dad's gonna crash out. Mom's crashing out." 😂

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Beth M's avatar

😂😂

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Because AG Blondi is a coward and loser... and a damned liar.

Get a guy like Joe DiGenova in there as AG... Or Bailey of Missouri...

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

I used to like Joe DiGenova but then he gave his unqualified, full throated support for Bill Barr as replacement AG for Jeff Sessions

That didn’t work out so well.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Ah, I had not remembered that... many people thought that Barr was a conservative patriot and honest.

But yes, anyone close to the Bush/Clinton Crime Cartel should have been suspect... and when he punted on prosecuting the Hillapig and others... the stench grew. He is now known as a total POS.

I think we are screwed... IMO, AG Blondi, Kash, Ratcliffe, Wiles, Lutnick, Kellogg and several others are traitors, controlled by Israel... Trump seems to be too.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

Charlie Kirk said: "Prove me wrong."

They couldn't, so they killed him.

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Carrie's avatar

I don’t really like that… yours is the most pithy summation of what happened.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

You mean concise?

If it happened to Charlie…

Don’t think it won’t happen to me or you

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Carrie's avatar

In the sense that you made a profound statement in so few words, compliments on how you simplified it… and yes we are all susceptible to this. Keep prayed up!

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Yes, and that includes some of the comments he was getting into over the last couple months, and even going back to October 7. He was veering into some dangerous territory, if you get the drift.

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Cindi's avatar

Excuse my language, but FFS Crockett & Swalwell?????!

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I heard their names and immediately thought - they’re about to get tricked into incriminating themselves while ON the committee 😅I really think there’s an ambush scenario here.

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Teresa Thibodeaux's avatar

We can certainly hope.

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MOMinator's avatar

I was thinking the same thing lol

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Deidre Garrison's avatar

I cringe to know I will have to listen to her nerve shattering voice in order to get my news first hand. I may just rely on Jeff to sort it out for me 🤨

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Padrig's avatar

That is the safer, sanity saving, option.

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Beckadee's avatar

Hakeem picked those 3, not Johnson.

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monica's avatar

Possibly picking his weakest links to deflect the beat down from those with better standing amongst democrats? Putting in C squad cuz the Republicans are expected to kick ass and take names?

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Jacquijacq's avatar

Republicans do t know how to kick ass. They’re pussy cats. That’s the problem

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Padrig's avatar

They also have a LOT to lose in this. The Republicans (not just RINOs) stood idle while all this happened. They should have been exposing this as it happened.

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monica's avatar

True, I am the eternal optimist.

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Beckadee's avatar

I'm not familiar with the FL rep chosen but the other 2 are strictly disrupters and IMO will act accordingly.

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Kathy's avatar

I love the nickname somebody gave Jeffries (I first heard it from Dave Rubin) “Temu Obama”.

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Ted's avatar

Entertainment value. 😁

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shayne's avatar

They'll get a beat down, and be voted down each time. How demoralizing for them.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 12Edited

I do not know what that acronym stands for, lol!

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Padrig's avatar

Methinks it is: "For F Sake". The second F is probably Future or Fate or something.

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Cindi's avatar

Hahahaha! I wanted to not offend sensibilities by spelling the 2nd “f” out

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Padrig's avatar

The second F is for Frank, isn't it? You didn't want to offend Frank. After that whole hotdog fiasco, Franks can be really touchy.

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Lori's avatar

Thank you.

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PrsctNative's avatar

Reading from Psalms 27:14 this morning…”Wait for the Lord; be strong and let your heart take courage; wait for the Lord”.

Just thought others might need to hear this today as I step back from the urge to want rapid answers and swift resolution for the tragedy of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Praying for his family and America 🇺🇸.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

"Charlie Kirk’s death did not represent any kind of vindication against “intolerance,” however attenuated. It represented the death of dialogue."

The death of dialogue is not from assassination, but indifference. Charlie Kirk was assassinated precisely because the dialogue was effective. Assassination is not indifference.

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

Yes. Polite, respectful dialogue did not fail. It has resulted in a massive shift of young people, particularly young men, towards the right and towards faith in God. We shouldn’t just listen to the few loud voices calling Charlie a right-wing extremist and ignore the many more quietly changing their minds toward the good.

People need to stop saying “the time for dialogue is over”. It’s not.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I am sure many throughout history have felt there is no recourse but violence. If you are defending yourself, violence becomes necessary, but before that, there is always a call for de-ecalation. As long as we can breathe, we can talk.

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

I am dismayed to see some on the right, and even in these comments, saying the time for discussion is over. They say all democrats are insane and/or evil, and if I try to re-humanize those I disagree with politically, I am “part of the problem”.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

You're not part of the problem. It is a difficult task to "not other" people who are acting badly. I disagree with these people, think that some should face years of therapy for the indoctrination they endured, but most of my anger is due to the institutions that brought this upon them. At the same time, it doesn't excuse their behavior.

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SD Scott's avatar

What would Charlie do?

Enough said.

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NanaW's avatar

Was reading many thoughtful reflections on X about why the death of Charlie Kirk is wearing on our souls so hard. Chad Prather had some very wise words to say:

“Good morning.

The reason you feel Charlie’s death so deeply is because grief doesn’t measure itself by proximity. It measures itself by meaning. You didn’t have to know him personally to feel the sting of his absence, because when a voice like his goes silent, something in the atmosphere shifts.

The reason it feels heavier than so many other tragedies is because your spirit recognizes that this is not just about a man, it is about a battle. Scripture says eternity is written on our hearts, and when someone who carried truth with boldness is suddenly gone, eternity aches within us. It’s like our souls know instinctively that the darkness celebrated, and that strikes us at the core.

The reason you can’t shake it is because psychologically, we don’t only attach ourselves to people…we attach ourselves to symbols. Charlie became a symbol of conviction in a time of compromise, courage in a time of fear. And when a symbol is struck down, it rattles something primal and eternal inside us.

That’s why even those who never met him feel it. There is a strange thread pulling at us, and it is not imagined. It is real. We are bound together by shared purpose, by shared longing for truth, by the Spirit of God Himself weaving us into a fabric that cannot be torn apart. This loss pulled at that fabric, and every one of us felt the tug.

So if you’ve wondered why this hits so hard, it’s because your soul knows. This is bigger than news. This is bigger than politics. This is about eternity, about truth, and about the weight of a man whose life carried both.

Love y’all”

The 2nd thing that struck me this morning was an old hymn I hadn’t thought about in years. I love the old hymns best. I hope it stirs your heart as it has stirred mine.

Who is On the Lord’s Side?

By Frances R. Havergal 1977

1. Who is on the Lord’s side? Who will serve the King?

Who will be His helpers, other lives to bring?

Who will leave the world’s side? Who will face the foe?

Who is on the Lord’s side? Who for Him will go?

By Thy call of mercy, by Thy grace divine,

We are on the Lord’s side—Savior, we are Thine!

2. Not for weight of glory, nor for crown and palm,

Enter we the army, raise the warrior psalm;

But for love that claimeth lives for whom He died:

He whom Jesus saveth marches on His side.

By Thy love constraining, by Thy grace divine,

We are on the Lord’s side—Savior, we are Thine!

3. Jesus, Thou hast bought us, not with gold or gem,

But with Thine own lifeblood, for Thy diadem;

With Thy blessing filling each who comes to Thee,

Thou hast made us willing, Thou hast made us free.

By Thy grand redemption, by Thy grace divine,

We are on the Lord’s side—Savior, we are Thine!

4. Fierce may be the conflict, strong may be the foe,

But the King’s own army none can overthrow;

’Round His standard ranging, vict’ry is secure,

For His truth unchanging makes the triumph sure.

Joyfully enlisting, by Thy grace divine,

We are on the Lord’s side—Savior, we are Thine!

5. Chosen to be soldiers, in an alien land,

Chosen, called, and faithful, for our Captain’s band;

In the service royal, let us not grow cold,

Let us be right loyal, noble, true and bold.

Master, wilt Thou keep us, by Thy grace divine,

Always on the Lord’s side—Savior, always Thine!

God bless us all as we answer His call.

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Lisa Runquist's avatar

Most profound description i have read. We are all more connected than we realize.

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JBell's avatar

Thank you for that!

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NanaW's avatar

You’re most welcome. It’s good there is a place like the comment section on Jeff’s amazing Substack where we can lift one another up and encourage each other.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great post!

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NanaW's avatar

Thank you.

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