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Johnny-O's avatar

One, singular. As in, if that single producer’s warehouse mysteriously burns down in the middle of the night, American farmers can’t grow corn, soybeans, or wheat (Portlanders: food),

Sorry, roundup is not required in order to grow crops. Furthermore, weeds are becoming resistant to it meaning more and more is needing to be applied. Additionally, many don't know that it is also used to 'ripen' many grain crops, or in other words kill it all so it is all ready to harvest (increased yields) - but obviously this comes at a huge cost both monetarily and health wise.

The great poisoning continues, even with an ostensible MAHA wing in the government.

Kelly's avatar

Glyphosate, for those that don't know, causes a bug's stomach to explode, and keeps them from eating the crop (obviously). But then, YOU eat the crop, instead. It is still doused in glyphosate, all the way down to the roots of the plant, literally. You cannot just wash it off. It is IN the plant. Now, if just a "little" spray of it ON a crop makes a bugs belly explode, what do you think it's doing to YOUR stomach, when you're injesting the chemical on a molecular level?

Johnny-O's avatar

Yes, and how much makes its way down the food chain by eating animals that eat the corn and soy that is doused in it? And then add in other compounding factors like the myriad of other toxins and poisons most people are exposed to on a daily basis. Toxic stew....

TriTorch's avatar

Johnny, is it germs making us sick or:

-Vaccines

-Pesticides

-Herbicides

-Larvicides

-Glyphosate

-Teflon

-Flouride

-MicroPlastics

-VOC's

-Seed & Vegetable Oils

-Articifical Sweeteners

-Flavorings

-Colorings

-Coatings

-Chemicals

-GMOs

-Antibiotics

-EMF Radiation

-Chemtrails

-Toxins

-Parasites

-Carcinogens

that we are deliberately drenched with on a daily basis?

KCwoofie's avatar

All of the above in a synergistic effect.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Exactly! The human body can only process so many toxins.

Crash Pile's avatar

We are warned about the risks of nearly everything but who really knows the extent and the effects? It’s enough to drive people crazy. To add to your list, not just external additives but the resultant effects. What, me worry?

Chloramines

chlorine

Aluminum

Per fluorocarbons

Gluten

Oxalates

Antihistamines

Fructose

Lectins

Cholesterol

Lipids

Carbohydrates

Glycation

Oxidative stress

Inflammation

Mitochondrial dysfunction

Insulin resistance

Membrane instability

Fructans

FODMAPs

Emulsifiers

jean's avatar

Yes DO NOT forget statins. Thanks for saying that so clearly.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Not to mention constantly watching images of people murdering each other á la Netflix, etc.

Patricia Wolfe's avatar

That’s exactly why I don’t watch those kind of movies. I’m in Pure Flix and Roku Faith and Family movies on those channels!

Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Great list. Thank you. Gives you pause to think.

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

So why aren’t we all dead? Not that I’m in favor of this stuff but it seems to me a certain amount of hysteria is going on here.

rolandttg's avatar

You are kidding, right? 70 % obesity rate? Diabeties Type 2 off the charts and going up every year? Heck, nobody ever knew there was but one type of diabetes when I was growing up, because there wasn't. Average person over 60 taking 10 toxic scrips a day? ~70 % of youth unfit for military service.?? We might not all be dead yet, but most people seem well on their way.

Justin's avatar

Not only that, but the ranges in which "normal" was defined in the past has lowered, so as to qualify more people for pharmaceuticals. It's quite insidious that the scale is changing to do so.

Grandma Bear's avatar

I'm almost 83 and when I was a child, cancer was a really rare disease and diabetes came in two forms, juvenile diabetes and adult-onset diabetes, which was recognized as largely a lifestyle disease, whereas juvenile diabetes wasn't (although it's likely there's a real environmental component that wasn't recognized back then). I guess they changed the names to type-1 and type-2 because so many children are now getting the "adult onset" form. When I was in high school, there was one girl who was morbidly obese (she sat in front of me in most classes because her last name started with the same as mine). I remember feeling so sorry for her and tried to be nice to her because she really did stand out as something of a freak. Now, she would hardly be noticed.

John A George's avatar

Don't worry, what they can't accomplish using food and water, they're 'fixing' with geoengineering.

alongername's avatar

Late 60.s i really began feeling like crap ..... even though eating fairly well and being active .

By 70 i found my retirement was being reborn into a student of alternative health, reading and learning as much as i could on hard to find alternative sites (Google hides most, as Cleveland Clinic and other MS advertisers are generally the only sources offered unless one already knows an alternative source to seek.

Undoing much of the harm we accumulated over the years CAN be done. Takes time and effort. Iat 75 i have regained a lot of my energy and overcome lack of energy, prostate issues, body soreness and many internal disturbances that progress as we age.

Unfortunately.......... we are still forced the same narratives and excuses that MAHA could undo if only allowed to do so

Johnny-O's avatar

Why with all the modern conveniences and access to food and water is our lifespan decreasing? Why as a child did I know practically nobody with cancer, and now kids get it?

Katie's avatar

I was just telling my girls that as kids, we did not hear about autism, ADHD, no peanut allergy tables at school, we NEVER we asked if we were food sensative or allergies or gluten issues at a restaurant or before we had company for dinner. Then we lost our fist born son to brain cancer at 16. He was FULL of aluminum in his brain, deficient in just about everything (although his blood work was normal and he was a muscular, "healthy", active kid). Needless to say, we gets calls all the time for cancer to help people heal, just this year 2 of our friends have lost children under 20 to brain cancer. If I could go back in time I would start by skipping the vaccines (we are lifelong military and they shove them in our kids in HUGE clusters), I just didn't know the difference. We help people heal bodies now so they will not suffer like we do, but this has got to change. We have turned our life upside down to get all of the things you all listed above out of our lives, but it's very expensive. We pay for our preventative care out of pocket and avoid the system almost completely. We fought cancer naturally and almost won (being up again the medical complex is a beast with a minor) and I ache for those who don't even have the resources to clear out the junk being shoved into our lives. But I am heartened by people waking up. We were MAHA before MAHA was cool.

Martha's avatar

A long time ago, nobody got cancers at the rate we have today. There is NO good reason to spray glycosphate, which is a carcinogen, on our food RIGHT before harvesting. If it was sprayed earlier just to kill weeds, okay - but people have been eating oats and wheat for at least a couple thousand years or much longer, without this toxic spray. When they spray right before harvesting, which they do, they are giving the gift of cancer. We can outlive the cancer by use of highly expensive chemicals- when I was a child, IF you got childhood leukemia or other childhood cancers, it was a death sentence, and today, most children can outlive their cancers - but why? Look at the damage, the long periods of time being in hospital, getting treatment, not getting to go to school or to work, etc. if you get cancer - lost time out of your life. There is no genuine need to spray the stuff on wheat and oats right before harvesting, and there is enough evidence against glycosphate that many cases have been won against the manufacturer - but even with vast settlements, they can keep on going and just consider it the cost of doing business. The payouts have not stopped them, but they show there is evidence of harm. Here is from Google AI - "Around 200,000 Roundup-related claims have been made against Bayer/Monsanto regarding cancer, with about 114,000 to 125,000+ cases settled. While many cases were settled, plaintiffs have won at least 11 major trial verdicts..." Bayer would NOT have paid settlements except they knew very well the evidence was against them and they would have lost and paid more if they had not settled. I am a retired health professional with research training and I do not think it is hysteria to want to avoid eating grains like oats that have been intentionally sprayed with a carcinogen immediately before harvesting. IF the the FDA would stop THAT, it would be huge, but probably they have no say because it's under Dept of Agriculture. I only buy organic oats, I don't buy Quaker Oats, I don't bake oatmeal cookies any more - but now I find out it's in a lot of the wheat also which we know courtesy of Florida posting the amounts of poison in the bread brands - so now I am thinking, it's in the flour that makes the pasta for the microwave spaghetti dinners and ravioli, and the flour for the pasta you eat at an Italian resataurant, and the Italian bread most likely - if they spray the wheat for "ripening" like they do the oats - we are screwed. When my grandparents were young, this was not done. My Grandma was born in 1896 and she lived to be nearly 100. They did not use this on all the grains in her day. My husband's mom lived to be nearly one hundred. She was born around the time of World War I. Still, no glycosphate on all the grains sprayed right before harvesting. Today - it is shocking how many have "celiac disease" and they have to stop eating wheat - for thousands of years, people used wheat to make bread. In the Bible times, people ate wheat bread - now, I know many people who can't eat wheat, plus we have all these chronic disease. A young adult in my family in her 30's, and no Covid shot, now has auto-immune disease plus diabetes and a bunch of other thing - could it be the wheat? Who could prove it. But I know many people with celiac disease which is exactly about the wheat. And think about arsenic and lead in our food? Who wants that, and why can we not have food without that? We can put a man on the moon and we can't have clean food? No, it's not hysteria.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Plus, as I understand it:

the glyphosate sprayed on the plants oversprays onto the soil where it interacts and prevents some trace minerals from being absorbed by the plants where previously, without glyphosate, they would have been bio-available to humans eating the produce. Thus, over decades the human population eating all these farm products were subsequently undernourished in an array of minerals needed for good health.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

by the way, my wife is considering buying Eikhorn flour(no glyphosate) and / or organic wheat and her own flour mill as a means to produce wheat based food that is finally. . . SAFE.

CMCM's avatar
Feb 20Edited

I don't know if more people these days actually have celiac disease, which you can only get if you have a predisposing gene for it. However, apparently a lot of people (without that gene) do appear to have gluten sensitivity, which can be pretty bad in terms of symptoms but it won't cause the malabsorption or wasting that celiac does.

My mother had celiac disease and nearly died of it back in 1967. She had wasted away to 89 pounds (her normal weight was about 120) and it was so unknown that most doctors had no idea about it and tried to tell her it was all in her head. She was saved by the grace of God and meeting a doctor who actually did know about it and how to test for it. She was 46 at the time of diagnosis, and completely cut out all gluten grains and recovered her health within a year. She was totally healthy after that, ate only natural foods and stayed out of restaurants, and she lived to 95. About 10 years before she died, I got genetic testing and I got a test for her too, discovering that she had two celiac genes, one from each of her parents, and that double gene was a bad combination and explained why she was so sick with it and nearly died. Having two identical genes, she obviously gave one to each of her four children, but our second gene from our father wasn't celiac so none of us got as sick as she did. However, I passed the gene on to my son and my husband gave him a gene associated with gluten sensitivity and my son gets as instantly sick as my mother did if he accidentally gets any gluten. Same thing happened with my nephew. It's a tricky thing, but another reality is that wheat is one of the most genetically messed with foods out there. They have played around with it to make the stalks shorter, to make it grow in cold or other less naturally habitable climates, and today's gluten content is suposedly 100X greater than 60 years ago. No wonder so many people have sensitivity to it.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Because we are fearfully and wonderfully made.

Christine's avatar

As a species, we are sick and obese. I would say almost dead.

Matt L.'s avatar

Remember that you are dust, and to dust you shall return.

happyinfl's avatar

Yes you will return to dust, but sooner than you thought.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

It keeps the Medical Industrial Complex happy which keep$ the Beltway Mafia happy.

Eruca Sativa's avatar

It's a slow death Joseph. Maybe you'll notice that many of us are very sick and have a shortened lifespan.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Exactly. So many people are sick with chronic conditions. As a dentist, I looked at medical histories all day long. More people were on medication than were not. Sad, when improving the quality of your food and lifestyle will go a long way toward solving the issues that led to the medications being prescribed in the first place.

Tonee norman's avatar

Many,many ARE dead due to this toxic bombardment we suffer.

I think it is a testament to the God given power of LIFE that ANYTHING has survived this onslaught .

caveat emptor's avatar

drip... drip... drip...

Peace's avatar

We're not all dead, but we need to admit we have a majority of our population with at least one chronic illness. Including children.

alongername's avatar

The dead can't speak .............

No One Important's avatar

If all the older people die off from cancer and other chronic diseases, it is less of a burden on society. The Japanese government, some years ago, actually encouraged people to smoke cigarettes, to reduce the dependent old people, easing the burden on their society. Could this be happening here?

TriTorch's avatar

Without question:

Bill Gates Highlights People on Big Screen in TED Talk, says: One of These Numbers Are Going To Have to Come Pretty Near to 0 - Audience Laughs: https://old.bitchute.com/video/ODce0dzhQMkX/ [30seconds]

Eruca Sativa's avatar

Interestingly enough, natural cigarettes without additives don't cause disease and aren't addictive.

No One Important's avatar

ROTFL! I have some oceanfront property in Colarado to sell you if you believe that ancient myth.

LC's avatar

AND, New illegal alien drivers. Example: criminal illegal alien from India, who took the lives of 3 individuals in a horrific DUI accident in San Bernadino County, California.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/10/23/another-illegal-alien-truck-driver-kills-three-more-people-in-california-horrific-crash/

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

It keeps the Medical Industrial Complex happy...

LC's avatar
Feb 19Edited

Not if too many people die, they will have very few patients customers left。

Truth Seeker's avatar

All of the above. Some avoidable. Many not.

Microbes and parasites are opportunists...

They exist everywhere looking for a suitable environment to exploit.

Gary's avatar

At least they are killing us profitably!!

william howard's avatar

and it poisons the soil so future production is degraded

Politico Phil's avatar

Degrading food production is a big objective of the depopulation agenda.

Jane Tracy's avatar

I wonder how long it stays in the soil or if it never degrades?

Kelly's avatar

I JUST saw a video...no idea why it showed up on my phone...in which they mixed *something* with glyphosate and it reduced it drastically. I wish I would have paid more attn...

PrayerWarrior's avatar

Hence celiac and other stomach diseases have been born

Maha's avatar

Celiac disease has occurred since hunter gathering peoples became farmers. But celiac-LIKE issues are certainly increasing as a result of wheat hybridization to increase gluten content, and farming practices like desiccation with glyphosate.

Peter's avatar

But my chips say “NATURAL”

Maha's avatar

That's all you need to know--General Mills and Monsanto say hi.

rolandttg's avatar

There is not a more meaningless word on a label than "natural", and they know it.

Johnny-O's avatar

Oh, the good old "natural" claims...."natural flavor" in almost everything. They aren't benign, which they lead you to believe.

Gary Ogden's avatar

They must be super-duper great, then!

Justin Ringler's avatar

You have been the recipient of false information about glyphosate. It does not cause a bugs stomach to explode. It has no effect on insects at all. Glyphosate is a non selective herbicide that kills growing plants by interrupting the chemical reaction of photosynthesis. It has absolutely no effect on any animal or insect.

Barbara Lee's avatar

What it does do is disrupt the micro flora in your gut that is vital to health. Here’s Grok: Glyphosate Disrupts Gut Microbes

Multiple studies indicate that glyphosate can inhibit the shikimate pathway in bacteria, leading to reduced growth of beneficial microbes and shifts in microbiome composition. For instance, a systematic review found that glyphosate exposure induces intestinal dysbiosis by altering bacterial metabolism, increasing intestinal permeability, disrupting mucus secretion, and damaging microvilli in animal models. Similarly, low-dose exposure (approximating the U.S. Acceptable Daily Intake of 1.75 mg/kg body weight) in mice altered gut microbiota, depleting beneficial bacteria like Bifidobacterium pseudolongum and Lactobacillus species, while decreasing short-chain fatty acid (SCFA) biosynthesis pathways and increasing proinflammatory markers such as Lipocalin-2 and IL-17A-producing T cells. In rats, prenatal exposure at very low doses disrupted gut bacteria function, promoting inflammation, metabolic issues, and neuroimmune changes, even without major shifts in overall composition.Human microbiome analyses suggest that 54% of core gut bacterial species are potentially sensitive to glyphosate, which could indirectly contribute to health issues like obesity, diabetes, and neurological disorders through the microbiota-gut-brain axis. Commercial formulations like Roundup often show stronger effects, increasing fermentation, acidification, and altering metabolites like lactate and long-chain fatty acids in simulated human gut models. These disruptions have been observed across species, including bees, Daphnia, and rodents, with links to broader health impacts like anxiogenic behavior and reproductive issues.

So… there’s that!

Justin Ringler's avatar

Ask grok what the negative effects of caffeine are.

Barbara Lee's avatar

Why? It won’t change anything.

Jane Tracy's avatar

Then why have there been so many lawsuits against Monsanto-now Bayer for claims that it causes Lymphoma in people and they have won the suits?

On an island's avatar

It’s not just claims; it’s for real no matter how much they try to minimize it. It happened to my Mom. They moved up north in the country behind a farmers field and within a year she had non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma out of nowhere.

Jane Tracy's avatar

It also happened to a good friend of mine…. A huge tumor found out of the blue! I hope that your Mom was able to be treated and still with you. My friend had to have a stem cell transplant and thankfully is still with us but it was one hell of a fight.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

thanks for the facts.

However, it still is imparted to the soil where it interrupts soil minerals from being taken up by the plants being grown. So, there is that.

B Smith's avatar

I don't use the stuff and would like to see better alternatives. But, I get out and about regularly and, as of this morning, I haven't seen anyone suffer belly explosion.

Kelly's avatar

What do you think causes celiac disease? Wanna tell any of THEM that their stomach isn't about to explode?

B Smith's avatar

Ok. It’s a bad disease. How does roundup cause it?

Lynne Morris's avatar

And the farmers who rely on it do so at great personal risk to their health.

David A's avatar

The main question is what is the cost of the alternatives...

A standard loaf of bread (e.g., white or basic wheat, around 20–24 oz) currently averages about $2–$2.50 in the US.Cheap alternatives (e.g., switching to other herbicides or basic integrated methods instead of glyphosate): Virtually no noticeable increase — maybe $0.01–$0.05 extra per loaf at most (often effectively $0, as farm cost hikes are tiny and mostly absorbed before retail).

Full organic (no synthetic herbicides, using rotation/mechanical methods): Organic loaves typically cost $4–$8+ (e.g., brands like Dave's Killer Bread or Whole Foods options often $5–$7–$8), so an increase of $2–$6 (or 100–300%+ more) compared to conventional — though many consumers already pay this premium for organics without broad market-wide inflation.

In short: Cheap swaps barely move the needle on your grocery bill; going fully organic means noticeably higher prices for those loaves. (And worth it for myself)

So yes, it can be done and not very costly. Jeff's articles are always good, highly recommended, yet we humans are wired to point out areas we disagree. I fully support Jeff's criticism of Rachel Cs Silernt Spring DDT hysteria, and pointing out the TDS of the media is always good.

In general the phrase, "The poison is in the dosage" is however very accurate, just as the phrase" The solution to pollution is dilution" These are general guidelines that have validity, yet tremendous variation in specific substances. Water is good, but drink enough and you die. CO2 is a necessary trace gas, and very safe to well over 1000 PPM, yet at 4 times that real harms can occur, and at some levels, it is fatal.

Dena's avatar

I’ve read that the polio “epidemic “ was really ddt poisoning. That so many of the polio cases originated in rural areas using ddt. That may be only a theory wearing a tin hat, but there’s more information out there. We do know that when the vaccine came out polio was already waning.

Gloria Magee's avatar

IF you can find the real history of polio and vaccines and not what we were taught, every outbreak from the 1600’s to modern times started at the release of pesticides. And Edward Jenner BOUGHT his medical degree and there were vaccine mandates way back then and there were those that fought them, too. I no longer believe anything coming from medicine nor do I believe we will ever have the lies of history come to light nor to acceptance. One just has to look at what they are currently putting into textbooks right now about Donald Trump to see exactly how history is rewritten and how NOTHING is done about it. It’s so discouraging.

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Read Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries MD. She does a deep dive into all vaccines and none of them are what we were told!

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

and, she explains, quite directly how the cause of polio was and is DDT-- under some definitions of polio(myelin affected, neuro-related syndromes)

pg 244

TiredCitizen's avatar

Isn't this what RFK Jr. has been about for a very long time. Long past time to wake up about Trump.

David A's avatar

no and sorry, but viruses are real.

LCC's avatar

Read the book “The Moth in the Iron Lung” by Forrest Maready for better understanding of the history of polio. It’s an eye opening book!!

el bicho palo's avatar

oh, didn't see your comment before adding my own in recommendation of this book

Truth Seeker's avatar

very important to consistently point out that Big P and the Medical Cartel (over 99%) are the producers and delivery crew

for all the Quaxcines.

David A's avatar

The timelines don't align for the claim:

The Salk inactivated polio vaccine was licensed in the US in 1955, with massive vaccination campaigns starting immediately.

US polio cases peaked at around 58,000, did begin a real drop before the vaccine and in 1952, then dropped dramatically: to about 2,500 paralytic cases by 1960 (a ~90%+ decline), and to just 61 by 1965.

Wild poliovirus was eliminated in the US by 1979, and polio has been considered eradicated.

In contrast, DDT use in the US peaked around 1959 (nearly 80 million pounds applied), then declined gradually. The major ban on most domestic/agricultural uses came from the EPA in 1972 (effective end of that year), long after polio cases had already plummeted due to vaccines.

Polio is a real virus.

el bicho palo's avatar

I will add the book, "The Moth in the Iron Lung" if you would really like to dive into the Polio/insecticide story

Dena's avatar

Thanks, it looks worth a read.

David A's avatar

Polio is caused by the poliovirus (confirmed through virus isolation, epidemiology, and over a century of evidence), not pesticides, and historical outbreaks predated DDT by centuries (e.g., ancient Egypt). While DDT was sprayed in some U.S. towns in the 1940s–1950s in a mistaken attempt to kill suspected fly vectors after outbreaks began, it had no effect on stopping polio, and U.S. cases peaked in 1952 before declining sharply after the 1955(from ~58,000 cases to under 6,000 by 1957, and near-zero by the 1970s), long before the 1972 DDT ban. The idea that polio was already "waning" before the vaccine ignores the dramatic drop when cases were at record highs in the early 1950s, and global eradication efforts rely on either vaccination or other factors not cogent to DDT as proven by the timing and many other factors.

Truth Seeker's avatar

No, Koch's postulates have never been satisfied by any "virus" despite your sophomoric assertions. You are advancing the false belief that chemical companies can figure out a cocktail without consequence. Your is not a deeper understanding, it is foolishness.

David A's avatar

"You are advancing the false belief that chemical companies can figure out a cocktail without consequence" I never stated any such thing. Quote me. You cannot help but degrade into baseless straw man assertions and personal attacks. Truth no doubt humbly retires before such arrogance."

Victoria J's avatar

I saw that Dave's Killer Bread was on the Florida glyphosate list, with numbers like Pepperidge Farm's.

Dena's avatar

There’s a brand of bread Silver Hills that not only says non gmo, organic but also states kosher & non glyphosate. Check your bread for that label also

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Good bread. But, I make my own.

KSB's avatar

And do you order your flour from somewhere to make sure the wheat is "clean?" A curiosity question

Dena's avatar

I do as well from time to time. But sometimes store bought is necessary & this brand or good sourdough is good.

Truth Seeker's avatar

that is interesting, have never seen any bread with a non glyphosate label

That implies that the baker spot checks the flour... Impressive.

I would take the time to call and ask for verification. If they advertised this on website many would be happy to pay extra.

Dena's avatar

They use Canadian wheat & have the no glyphosate label on the bread packaging. I’ve not noticed that label on other bread.

PamelaZelie's avatar

And Silver Hills bread is very tasty.

Bard Joseph's avatar

??

Dave's Killer Bread is USDA certified organic, which prohibits the use of synthetic pesticides like glyphosate. As a result, the bread does not intentionally contain glyphosate. The company ensures its ingredients do not come into contact with such chemicals throughout the farming and production process.

Dave's Killer Bread

Carol M's avatar

Per the testing done by Florida they do show positive for glysophate in Dave’s Bread. It’s on their state website. Much lower levels than other breads but it’s there.

Garner's avatar

We were pretty shocked to see this, because we were buying Dave's Killer Bread when I don't have time to bake my own. But then I wondered who actually makes it, and it's owned by Flowers Food brands makers of Wonderbread, Nature's Own, European Bakers etc. (these products also appeared on the FL list) So, it's easier to understand how glyphosate could make its way into the bread either from drift, or machine contact or supply chain. That said, I don't happily pay what is easily double the price of a loaf of bread only to hear the glyphosate is still in there. They lost me.

CindyLou's avatar

Yes, if your organic wheat field is next to a conventional wheat field, there will be some chemical drift. Unfortunately, you cannot avoid it, unless you buy up - but do not farm - many acres on your perimeter.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

What this tells me is that their measurment accuracy cannot distinguish between the level they list as zero and some positive number above Dave's Bread.

So, grain of salt or let's put a confidence interval around all the readings for those listed.

We should also be asking the questions:

-- what are the units of the glyphosate levels in ppm, ppb, or ppt(parts per trillion)?

-- At what ppm level and consumption level can we expect to see cancer created over how many years? (of course, NO ONE knows this!)

-- How many times did they REPEAT their measurments for each bread(n=?) and how many times did they re-run each sample??

Without this information on their study, it is mostly useless.

rolandttg's avatar

Don't know about this one, but do know glysophate travels with the wind, so lots of good farmers are getting on their crops too.

AAron's avatar

Dave's "Killer" Bread.

It's in the name. No thanks.

Maha's avatar

It's the mill they use. It processes commercial wheat as well as organic.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Companies are responsible for control of supply chain...

David A's avatar

yep Costco Dave's bread is fine AFAIK

Truth Seeker's avatar

Glyphosate is a herbicide not a pesticide. It is also directly sprayed on crop to dessicate. Daves has been tested, the results show contamination.

Matt L.'s avatar

There are over 20 different Dave’s Killer Bread products, Victoria. Which specific ones were on the list?

Me think’s Dave’s has some ‘iconic’ products like Hershey’s does.

Christy B's avatar

It’s the “21 Whole Grains and Seeds” product

Johnny-O's avatar

You are forgetting that industrial farming is HEAVILY subsidized. Maybe we should subsidize healthy and safe/safer practices?

JasonT's avatar

Or don't subsidize anything and let a free and open market do what it does. A modest proposal...

rolandttg's avatar

200 % correct. Read Molly Englehart every day and you will see how she spells this out line by line.

David A's avatar

What comment are you referring to?

rolandttg's avatar

For all the stupidity in tolerating the demonic edicts of their Fourth Reich overlords masquerading as the EU, the Europeans are far smarter about what they put in their bodies than we are. They spend twice per capita on food as we do, because they know you are what you eat. More expensive to eat real food? Yes, but so what? Drop a few apps, a few tattoos, a new phone every 3 years, Disneyland, and put your money where it matters most . FOOD. Real food.

Teri's avatar

The gut is the seed of health. Glyphosate does to our microbiome as it does to the bugs that eat our crops. It doesn’t take much. Don’t eat it.

Truth Seeker's avatar

It is not a pesticide. It is an herbicide!! The mechanism for causing malignancy has much to due with chelation

Jacqueline's avatar

You’re correct… it’s a herbicide , but the pesticide is the Roundup ready GMO corn that is genetically modified to resist pests.

Truth Seeker's avatar

both are too be avoided for any Health Seeker

The GMO corn has its DNA altered to produce pesticide.

Ingesting it is a serious mistake.

David A's avatar

“Don’t eat it.”

I agree with many harms from round up. However it is best to be accurate or risk being dismissed. Harm to insects from Roundup (glyphosate-based herbicides) can be more severe than to humans because insects often rely more heavily on a sensitive gut microbiome for nutrition, immunity, and development, and glyphosate disrupts beneficial bacteria (e.g., altering composition in bees, moths, or mosquitoes) or inhibits key processes like melanin production for immune defense, making them more vulnerable to infections and leading to higher mortality or sublethal effects at environmentally relevant doses. In contrast, humans lack the shikimate pathway targeted by glyphosate and have a more resilient, complex gut microbiome and physiology, so effects are typically subtler (e.g., potential microbiome shifts or chronic issues at high exposures) rather than acute, severe disruptions like those seen in many insect species.

Maha's avatar

David, don't forget our gut bacteria possess the Shikimate pathway. Review Stephanie Seneff's discussion of how our "complex gut microbiome" is damaged by Roundup.

Remember, the once resilient human gut biome has been altered by widespread use of antibiotics, industrial chemicals, and glyphosate. Many species of helpful bacteria that are present in non-industrial peoples are no longer present in the inhabitants of industrialized societies. Also remember that many species of human gut bacteria are symbiotic and only live within us. Wipe them out across whole populations, and they may be gone forever.

The results of exposure may be more subtle in general, but the exposure is still capable of disruptive shifts that can affect digestion, the immune system--think alterations to Interferon systems leading to an increased propensity for , and alter mood.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Sentence composition skills necessary. You are blathering about a chemical pathway you do not comprehend. What you suggest about insects is pure speculation. You have no idea what an environmentally sensitive dose is.

David A's avatar

You have no idea what I know. Your assumptions are just that.

Lynne Morris's avatar

I suspect the ill farmers would dispute that the main question is the cost of bread. Plus wheat and bread are just one aspect. Corn is another. Corn syrup. Corn meal. Animal feed. ...

David A's avatar

The costs I mentioned are similar across the board. It would be rather long for a blog post to go into all crops.

Lynne Morris's avatar

It would. And I get your point but you are missing mine. It is simply not as simple as using a herbicide on fields of grain under cultivation. The weeds are now becoming resistant to it. The grain seeds have been genetically modified to be able to tolerate it. The soil itself is altered by its use. Farmers who choose not to use Monsanto's seeds are sued; see Food, Inc.

David A's avatar

Hi Lynn, I know the issues with round up go far further over time. Still not certain what you are saying. I understand there are many health issues with the SAD. I know a heavy carb diet is very unhealthy as are processed seed oils etc. My main post response was about alternatives to round up, and their costs, which are not in my view that bad.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Make your own bread with clean flour. It's not so hard these days.

Truth Seeker's avatar

What an inaccurate assessment. If you cannot afford organic, there are consequences for really bad decisions. The adage that toxins are dosage dependent has been used to deflect from the simple fact that all are best avoided. "Water is good" ... brilliant

DDT hysteria?? Non Biologists are often without clue.

David A's avatar

Nothing in my post stated I did not support organic foods with my wallet. Many cannot, although they can choose to be creative and eat decently. The poison is in the dose was phrased as a general truth, and your perfect world is not on this planet. There is a well seen video of people willingly signing up for a petition to ban Dihydrogen monoxide, or water. I can show numerous biologist who support Jeff’s position here regarding DDT, so your argument from authority is poor reasoning.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Nice try. I am not arguing certainly not with Dave.

The best educated are mostly Pay to Play goons.

One cannot eat "decently" if they eat toxins...

Jeff clearly did not study Biology and remains clueless

in that domain.

No kidding on water. Try comprehension for the win.

David A's avatar

Toxins are dose dependent... Some of the below are toxins, some are not, but all illustrate how absolutism does not apply to relative creation...

Here are some clear examples:

Alcohol (ethanol): In very small amounts (e.g., 1 glass of wine per day for some people), it may have cardiovascular benefits or no noticeable harm. At higher doses, it causes intoxication, liver damage, addiction, and increased cancer risk; massive doses can be fatal.

Oxygen: Essential for life at normal atmospheric levels (~21%). But pure oxygen or very high concentrations (e.g., prolonged high-flow medical oxygen) can cause lung damage, oxidative stress, or toxicity (oxygen toxicity).

Common salt (sodium chloride): Small amounts are vital for nerve function, fluid balance, and health. Excessive intake leads to high blood pressure, heart disease, and other issues.

Paracetamol (acetaminophen): Therapeutic low doses relieve pain and fever safely. Overdoses cause severe liver toxicity and can be fatal.

Many phytochemicals and plant compounds (e.g., polyphenols in vegetables/fruits, resveratrol in red wine/grapes, or capsaicin in chili peppers): At low dietary levels, they often act as mild stressors that trigger beneficial adaptive responses (antioxidant defenses, anti-inflammatory effects). At very high supplemental doses, they can become pro-oxidant or toxic.

Heavy metals like arsenic or cadmium (in trace environmental exposures): Some studies show very low doses may trigger protective cellular mechanisms (hormesis), but higher environmental or occupational exposures cause cancer, organ damage, and other serious harm.

Exercise or calorie restriction (as non-chemical stressors): Mild "doses" (e.g., moderate exercise) build resilience and health benefits via hormesis. Extreme over-exercise or starvation becomes harmful.

Oh, and your favorite to ridicule, water, and I do not mean drowning.

Yes,water is essential for life, but drinking too much too quickly overwhelms your kidneys' ability to excrete the excess (they can typically handle about 0.8–1 liter per hour). This leads to a dangerous dilution of blood electrolytes, primarily sodium, causing a condition called hyponatremia (low blood sodium) or water intoxication (also known as water poisoning or overhydration).

Mike's avatar

Whoops! Dave's "Killer" bread contains glyphosate in spite of claims of 100% organic.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Maybe Dave’s sells organic as well as “conventional “ products? I really dislike the term “conventional “, because organic used to be conventional. SMH…

Truth Seeker's avatar

Terms are often misleading by design. The fact that we are discussing the toxin at this late date emphasizes its importance.

Organic is currently the best we have. In England they have "fair trade" that is more stingent. Detox pathways, Phase I and 2 need to be unencumbered and capable.

Momma Bear's avatar

Saying we need glyphosate in order to have food, and that food being corn, soybeans, wheat…..it would be massive and quite painful, but we really need to get away from thinking corn and soy (and distorted wheat) are necessary for survival. The incredible amounts of land dedicated to corn and soy in this country is sickening. What if just a portion of that was converted to growing nutrient rich whole foods?? I don’t buy this argument in defense of glyphosate (who saw that coming?). Because I cannot defend the empty foods lining our shelves that are just GMO corn/soy/wheat. I cry foul.

cat's avatar

OMG, you are saying what I keep saying! Enough with these convoluted/illogical government subsidies for growing corn and soybeans. Our soils are already depleted and full of pesticides! There shouldn't be any subsidies, but if they must exist, for Pete's sake at least reward diversity in what's grown, crop rotation, and other proven/non-BigAg practices. As it is, the US ends up begging China to buy surplus soybeans---insanity!

SD Scott's avatar

I wonder how easily such soil conversion could be accomplished?

The soil might need to enjoy a long sabbath rest.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Farmers in the regenerative agriculture area are doing this.

Nancy Benedict's avatar

In 1982, I became an organic gardener when my mother was dying from cancer. In the early 90's I sold organic produce at a local produce auction and investigated how to become certified. At the time, five years of organic practices were needed to qualify for the designation.

rolandttg's avatar

Read Molly Englehart's almost daily articles. She details exactly how to do it. She has reclaimed dead acreage on her central TX farm. Contrary to what I always believed, it is counterproductive to let land lay fallow. You need to grow things on it to regenerate it, the right things, and then let them decay and become new soil.

SD Scott's avatar

So fascinating: what is soil??

Bug poop, plant matter, bacteria…

rolandttg's avatar

We take humid fulvic acid daily, becasue that has been depleted from most soils that use herbicides and pesticides. No decaying matter to make it. Kills the fungus too. That's why so much "food" is devoid" of nutrition.

Johnny-O's avatar

The earth is amazingly resilient if we allow it to be.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Exactly ... And we can't "flip a switch" and in one day change 180°

Randy Little's avatar

Our soils in the country and around the world are terrible degraded. Our conventional farming and ranching practices are largely to blame. Erosion, nutrient leaching, ground water contamination, etc etc are our own fault! We need to adopt a regenerative farming mindset and wean ourselves and our soils off of chemicals like glyphosate, but throw synthetic fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides in the mix. Instead, let’s implement practices that restore soil health and ecosystem function!

We can make great strides by asking produce, dairy, meat managers at our grocery stores to stock regenerative products. Creating a demand pull creates incentives for producers to respond. So many benefits accrue at all levels from soil health to our gut health and beyond.

Regenerative agriculture is the answer!

SD Scott's avatar

Heal the land, heal the people.

On an island's avatar

I agree. And besides that the real solution is getting back to organic family farming. Institutional and factory farms have been a disaster that needs constant subsidies. It poisons our environment and our bodies, and is not sustainable.

We think that bigger is better and because of their size big farms are going to feed the world, but it’s just not true. If anything mono agriculture has made people increasingly more sick, and there’s still poverty and food scarcity in the world.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Jeff's sub par knowledge of responsible farming is a sad outlier to his generally superior knowledge of other topics.

I guess that's why colds and flu and other ailments periodically show up in his household

They don't in mine

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

We all have our specialties. The law is his. That he is able to round up news and provide thoughtful commentary and analysis on a daily basis is admirable. To expect expert knowledge on every subject would be both unreasonable and unrealistic. Jeff makes us THINK, and I, for one, and most appreciative of that.

Bgagnon's avatar

🎯🎯🎯🎯

Mike's avatar

Seriously, roundup in your garage?? Jeff this crap can make you wish you were dead. One change in the direction of the wind and you're covered in it along with what your animals, who are the closest to it. Shit-can the round up for weeds (and everything alas it touches). Simply get a fresh yard sprayer, add 1 gal of vinegar,(Costco has 2 galleons for less than 6 bucks), add 1 cup of dish soap and a cup of epsom salt. Mix and spray...weeds gone over night, and you live to write another day.

InquizitiveOne's avatar

THIS IS THE ANSWER JEFF:

Find a good natural recipe for weed killer and use that instead of roundup! I've heard they are amazingly effective with ingredients such as white vinegar...

ItsMeAgain's avatar

I use diluted vinegar (1:1) and water in a spray bottle (large with hose) to spray weeds. Very effective, just don't get it on what you want to grow. It will kill that too.

GSDCrino's avatar

Don't forget baking soda

LMWC's avatar

Been there done that. It’s never worked for me. We want pristine lawns. Large farming requires herbicides and pesticides, because large farmers don’t want to spend all their time cultivating. Wheat is sprayed with glysophate in the Plains state to make it die back, (ripen), at a uniform time for custom harvesting. Unless, any of you on here are actually farmers, you have no idea. Small farms are being gobbled up for solar farms and now data centers when my generation wants to retire and there is no one to take over a couple of hundred acres. Farmers can’t sell directly to the processors, futures markets. Regulations, up the wazoo.

Be more concerned on what they are spraying on all of us from the skies.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

I hear what you are saying and, like Jeff, have a bottle of Roundup in my garage cabinet. It works; use it at targeted plants individually. Do NOT spray it wholesale on large areas like farmers must do.

One thing you may be missing:

glyphosate accumulates in the soil and strips the ability of soil minerals formerly taken up by plants and then imparted to those who eat the plants. So, for decades now millions of us humans are NOT receiving the nutrients that help our immune systems from fighting off various diseases and strengthening our health.

Gabriella's avatar

Thanks for the recipe.

CStone's avatar

I wonder if adding Borox would work? It’s a naturally occurring mineral in soil.

Mike Mac's avatar

I've tried this and it burns weeds out really quick, but doesn't seem to kill them. They always grow back pretty quick.

KSB's avatar

Thank you Mike for that info!!

Jamison's avatar

That concoction will kill anything growing!

Mike's avatar

So will round up. But it won't kill you or your animals. Like urinating...aim carefully

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

I agree with what he writes. Sri Lanka flipped the switch a few years ago and it didn't go well."In April 2021, the Sri Lankan government voted to ban chemical fertilizers and pesticides. The agricultural sector—roughly two million farmers—was expected to change over to entirely organic farming more or less overnight, and there was an immediate ban on fertilizer imports. The ramifications quickly became apparent. As the Zurich-based Sunday paper “NZZ am Sonntag” reported, rice production fell by 25 percent in the first six months after the fertilizer ban. Rice suddenly had to be imported for a total of USD 450 million, even though Sri Lanka had previously been able to produce sufficient rice itself. The supermarket price of rice doubled, making rice unaffordable for many households."https://swiss-food.ch/en/articles/sri-lanka-pestizidverbot-mit-fatalen-folgen Has everyone forgot that news? Farmers became addicted to the use and need to be weaned off.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

The idiocy and incomplete thinking of the bureaucrat parasitic class boggles the mind:

NO ... of course society cannot flip a switch and overnight eliminate all pesticides. There are countless factors involved. How stupid.

It's beyond obvious.

Richard Whitney's avatar

''The narrative was that the government forced farmers to become organic by banning chemical fertilizers. This caused crop failures and food shortages which caused the riots, causing economic chaos.

This is a distortion of the truth by falsely connecting the dots. The economic chaos was not caused by the country going organic, as it hadn’t gone organic. The government was only planning to do so in the future.

Sri Lanka’s Economic Troubles

Sri Lanka was in severe economic trouble due to the build-up of financial debt caused by a combination of factors that began with the crippling financial drain, infrastructure damage, and social disruption of the decades-long civil war. The crisis was exacerbated in April 2019 due to church suicide bombings destroying the international based tourism industry, which was a significant provider of foreign currency for the country. The value of its currency fell and made it more expensive for industry and the government to import essential goods such as fuel.

On top of this, tax cuts in 2019 reduced government revenue and deepened that country’s national debt. The 2020 Covid-19 pandemic decimated the tourism industry. All these factors caused a significant increase in inflation, contributing to shortages of food and essential goods and increasing food insecurity in Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka was in severe economic and social trouble by the beginning of 2021.

The Import and Export Control Department banned the importation of chemical fertilizers on April 27, 2021, because they contributed over $400 million to the trade deficit. This was the start of a range of measures that would be proposed to create an economic recovery."

https://regenerationinternational.org/2022/11/15/the-distorted-lies-about-sri-lankas-organic-pathway/#:~:text=Organic%20Agriculture%20was%20not%20the,everything%20more%20expensive%20and%20unaffordable.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Thank you for this information, RW.

David A's avatar

It was far more then round up ban. The fertilizer ban is honestly nuts, as done responsibly it is not nearly as severe of an issue.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

yes, such a thing must be carefully implemented in small areas and expanded as success is found. Wholesale mandating is just foolish.

Amy's avatar

That seems like a rather presumptuous and arrogant statement.

Food and how it's grown is massively important, yes. And, it is by no means the only determinant of one's health.

Our family has eaten quite a robustly whole foods (mostly) diet, lots of organic and pasture raised meat. And we still have experienced some pretty significant chronic health issue and the periodic acute illness.

rolandttg's avatar

From what we have learned, and are still learning, it is very important not to just eat right, but to detoxify from all of the years you didn't. "But I have always eaten right". X Rays, CAT scans, mammograms, WIFI, smart phone radiation. Then there all the pesticides and herbicides , PFAC's, eating out, microwaves, teflon coated pans, on and on you cannot fully avoid. I highly suspect you have gallstones in your liver, as almost everyone does. Best , cheapest and easiest way to detoxify your liver I know. " Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush," Andreas Moritz. Most people I have told are not prepared to do it. Their choice.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

So, Amy, you start with a smear:

"presumptuous and arrogant"

That already tells your story psychologically.

And the psychology leads to everything else.

CStone's avatar

As if we believe you.

rolandttg's avatar

Hate to say it, but I think she is. What is not said, is that you can bet your bottom dollar , is that the black hats did everything they could to maximize the damage. Jeff is right in that you cannot just flip a switch and stop using glysophate, but you sure as hell can phase it out instead of endorsing it. That, and has been correctly said here, stop subsidizing Big Ag and start helping instead of screwing small farmers. That should have been Trumps ' move if he is not captured. This problem did not call for such a black and white, bad decision.

Politico Phil's avatar

One of the big objectives of the 'covid' psyops was the attack on Main Street (to the benefit of Wall Street) by shutting down the economy. This attack via lockdowns was successful in destroying much of America's small business and small farms, and transferring their assets to the big corporations and the big corporate farms. This is all part of their construction of their control grid. If they are allowed to complete this control grid, the war is lost. Reference the interviews with Catherine Austin Fitts.

LMWC's avatar

I grew up on a farm and still live in farm country. CoVid didn’t kill the small farm. The small farmer is now retirement age and beyond. The 70+ aged small farmers got along back in their day by taking outside jobs or part time work. They never made a ton of money, but they were solidly middle class. We all were the same so there were not class wars. But these small farmers did not have kids that wanted to work hard on farms only to be middle class. The small family farm is disappearing because there is no one to keep it going. These are who the solar companies are targeting. I see it every day around here.

Politico Phil's avatar

It is a multi-faceted war.

KSB's avatar

Thank you for your insight. This certainly makes sense in that it is another contributing factor .

rolandttg's avatar

Watched her last week, and many times in the past. I really respect her, and that is one reason I am not all in 100 % with Trump, or whoever that is, or anyone else for that matter. How the heck can you be if you look and listen in enough places and still think? I don't care how sure you are about anything, I can find someone I respect who will say the exact opposite.

Politico Phil's avatar

Matt 10:16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."

I picked this up from the interview with Michael Yon and Shasa Latapova... The war we are in involves everyone. At our level, we are either "a foot soldier for evil" or a foot soldier for good. There is no neutrality. This requires discernment: "be wise as serpents." We all are on one side or the other. The "wolves" intend to devour all of us until there are only the wolves left.

https://rumble.com/v75ose2-sasha-latypova-and-michael-yon-amsterdam-hearing-against-pfizer-and-bill-ga.html

R Nichols's avatar

My three favorite news sources are Solari Report, Unlimited Hangout, and the David Knight Show.

Richard Whitney's avatar

"The sudden reduction of fertilizer caused a decline in rice production. However, this was not because the country went organic. It takes three years to transition a farm to organic and decades to transition a country or region, as in the cases of the successful transitions of Bhutan and Sikkim. Just stopping chemical fertilizers does not make a farm organic."

Mrs. RW

rolandttg's avatar

Takes 20 years to reclaim orchard land drowned in chemicals ever week in season.

Richard Whitney's avatar

"Transitioning to organic does not have to decrease yields. Best practice organic systems are getting equal to higher yields than industrial and agricultural systems, especially in developing countries like Sri Lanka.

Noémi Nemes from the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) analyzed over 50 economic studies. She stated that the data: ‘… demonstrates that, in most cases, organic systems are more profitable than non-organic systems. Higher market prices and premiums, lower production costs, or a combination of the two generally result in higher relative profits from organic agriculture in developed countries. The same conclusion can be drawn from studies in developing countries, but there, higher yields combined with high premiums are the underlying causes of their relatively greater profitability.’

The critical issue here is that organic agriculture provides a higher income and higher yields in developing countries. Significant increases in yields can be achieved by teaching farmers to add science-based regenerative and organic practices to their traditional methods by adopting:

Better soil nutrition through recycling soil organic matter (SOM) and correct mineral balance

Improved pest and disease management

Water use efficiency – by increasing soil organic matter

Better weed management methods

Eco-function intensification: increasing the diversity of systems

A report by the United National Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) that reviewed 114 projects covering 2 million hectares and 1.9 million farmers found that organic agriculture increases yields in Africa. ‘…the average crop yield was … 116 percent increase for all African projects and 128 percent increase for the projects in East Africa.’"

https://regenerationinternational.org/2022/11/15/the-distorted-lies-about-sri-lankas-organic-pathway/#:~:text=Organic%20Agriculture%20was%20not%20the,everything%20more%20expensive%20and%20unaffordable.

Mrs. RW

rolandttg's avatar

Quite true, but as Molly Englehart so correctly added, we are paying for it elsewhere : poor health, poor nutrition, decreased productivity, misallocation of capitol, destroying family farms and other distortions.

David A's avatar

That ban was far more then for Round up. And indeed, the globalist want it done most everywhere.

Margot Wooster's avatar

So you and your family never get sick with anything? Do you isolate yourselves from other people?

STH's avatar

Some people just have really good immune systems. I’ve had one mild cold since Covid 2021. And I’m around people all the time. I also use XClear if on a flight or a super large crowd indoors. Maybe 1-2x a month.

Janet's avatar

My last bad cold was 2017. A couple of 2 day sniffles since. One of them was probably Covid January 2021 before jabs in my area. I use XClear too! The remedy one. Another good one is Snoot! A chlorine dioxide nasal treatment.

MaryAnn's avatar

I vote 👍👍 for Snoot! too.

InquizitiveOne's avatar

I use both Snoot and Xlear along with a good saline rinse with a neti pot at least a couple times a week.

Definitely has cut down on my catching colds!

KSB's avatar

STH, X-clear works well, I agree!

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

On the contrary.

Why isolate? Communicable disease does not affect me. I'm going of 15 years now. Lived in NYC, took the crowded subway, worked in extremely crowded places.

A healthy immune system handles it all in stride. That has ALWAYS been God's Law and God's Plan

Margot Wooster's avatar

Well, God certainly is sovereign over all things, including sickness and health. I hope you have compassion for those who are not as blessed as you in this way. Even more important is to know and trust Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sin and to have eternal life, because this life is only temporary.

Carolyn's avatar

Actually few things are spread from person to person

rolandttg's avatar

Hate to say it, but I , and my wife, have noticed the same thing. Jeff and family seem to get sick a lot./

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Hey, I love Jeff's reports more than any other source.

I love his service and talent.

... and if in some way, this blog exposes him to new information

... that can save his life one day ...

So be it.

rolandttg's avatar

I'm paying for this service, so I obviously agree.

Saylor Sherman's avatar

Jeff has 3 teenage boys who likely catch the flu at school. However I agree he should not have the round up product in his home at all. drinking soda and or energy drink is probably a bigger daily toxin if applicable.

mspring's avatar

Ah, man, that's harsh! But not without merit...

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

We can hope he has read this long tranche of knowledge and is awakened by those who ARE more expert in this regard. Perhaps his next posting on Roundup will show it off!

SM's avatar

This is such a cringey comment coming from a grown man 😵‍💫

Bombastic side eye...

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Nice smear ... Go for the smear ... and not the information

Jacquijacq's avatar

Well goodie goodie for you

laura-ann Knox's avatar

Superiority complex much, Jeffrey? Or do you just specialize in diagnosing the cause of a family's ailments from afar?

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

"Superiority" ... Smear Word ... Spoken like a true communist

lela's avatar

National priority should be to get rid of round up. Not prop it up. Talk about flip flopping- very disappointing to hear what’s happening. Literally my number 2 voting issue behind body autonomy to not take pharma poison. Pharma needs to stop poisoning us.

Steve Stevens's avatar

He flip flops on everything!

A.K.A. 4D chess on C&C. It’s easier to accept that way, lol.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Why are you disappointed? Trump has been doing what he sold his soul to do to get another term where he is accountable to know one. You have a MASSIVE narcissist in the WH and has no one to hold him accountable. Remember the Vanity Fair article? I would have fired people unless I approved it. Remember all the leaks from the first term? Don't be disappointed. Open your eyes to reality.

Maureen ODH's avatar

Absolutely agree with you Johnny-O… we’ve managed and maintained glyphosate and pesticides free pastures for decades to protect and provide the best possible species specific nutrients for our ‘like our own children’ sport horses… not the same as feeding a country or protecting a corporation in today’s disturbing glyphosate made national security example… but we had to learn how and what products to protect our own… so why not our Ag so called experts??? Absolutely disgusted with this “great poisoning continuation” corporations and profit over people decisions…

Bard Joseph's avatar

Jeff says:" anti-mosquito pesticide DDT, which got completely banned, but ultimately turned out to be much safer than critics claimed."

Data indicates polio disappeared exactly when DDT was banned.

DS's avatar

I was born in Fairbanks, Alaska in 1953. A territory of the U.S. It became a state in January, 1959. I remember growing up in Alaska that it had a great deal of mosquito's. I remember the planes flying overhead when I was 6 or 7 spraying DDT to control mosquito growth. I still remember what DDT smelled like. My wife and I retired to AZ three years ago. I would like to know what they are spraying in the continual siting's of Chem-Trails we view on a daily basis? Trying to quell the sun? Or create clouds for rain? They fail to inform the public of what they are actually spraying. We recently visited the Northwest states of WA and OR. Same Chem-Trails there too.

william howard's avatar

go to geoengineeringwatch.com - they have all the info and it's not good

DS's avatar

Thank you, William, for this link. Amazing! I started watching the Dimming video. It is lengthy so I will take time to watch the full documentary. I agree that it's not good.

william howard's avatar

I was told that the Dimming video had been updated and was much easier to watch

Jane Tracy's avatar

They are everywhere!

David A's avatar

Wild poliovirus was eliminated in the US by 1979, and polio has been considered eradicated.

In contrast, DDT use in the US peaked around 1959 (nearly 80 million pounds applied), then declined gradually. The major ban on most domestic/agricultural uses came from the EPA in 1972 (effective end of that year), long after polio cases had already plummeted.

Polio decline preceded the DDT ban by 15–20 years in the US,

David A's avatar

Polio is caused by the poliovirus, a highly contagious enterovirus spread primarily through fecal-oral transmission (e.g., contaminated water or food), not by pesticides like DDT.

The Shepherd knows's avatar

I live in a rural crop farming community. Largely corn and soybeans grown. Without fail in the late summer and very early fall of the year when the crops have matured, I see the crop dusting planes out in full force. We live near the small airport. The crops go from beautiful lush green plants to dried yellow/brown almost literally overnight. No frost even in sight. I remember as a kid the crops would start drying and dying with the first frost. Now they chemically kill the plants leaving them doused in glyphosate for us to eat. Horrid gut issues are off the charts and here is the reason why. Greed over our health. 😡

erin's avatar

Jeff wrote: But I confess that I have a bottle of it sitting in my garage right now that I use to kill weeds growing in driveway cracks instead of pulling them up by hand twice a day.

Jeff! Dude! This is so effing stupid. Get a propane weed flamer. They are awesome fun to use, and won't poison your land. I recommend this one. It was originally supplied by the Swedish Primus. Now called Sievert.

https://www.agriculturesolutions.com/primus-gardener-weed-torch

Truth Seeker's avatar

it is far worse than stupid, far worse

SYFY's avatar

and everything ripened that way doesn't taste good. Fruits taste like watered down versions of what they used to...I always want fruits, but when I eat them am so disappointed by the taste...I want the flavors I grew up with!

Pamela Cohen's avatar

I found to get good fruit you have to grow it. To me, the most disappointing in taste is the store bought citrus. So expensive, too.

In many areas, March is the time to plant Potatoes, Onions and Leeks, Cabbage, Broccoli, Beets, Spinach and Peas….

Merry McIntyre's avatar

Here is a list of countries that have banned or are in the process of banning glyphosate. https://www.wisnerbaum.com/toxic-tort-law/monsanto-roundup-lawsuit/where-is-glyphosate-banned/

Truth Seeker's avatar

Mr. Childers, your knowledge of Biology could use some remedial high school level science.

Recently you called Roundup a bug spray, now you admit to having it in your garage.

The herbicide has been throughly exposed for causing Non Hodgkins lymphoma

with several hundred million dollar settlements forcing Monsanto to sell out to Bayer.

Phosphorous is not a chemical. High school chemistry.

Ruminant animals eating grains sprayed and dessicated with Glyphosate contract stomach malignancy. It does not bio-degrade despite deliberate assertions declaring safety.

Box stores still afford it prime real estate to clueless consumers.

The reason for widespread use is to feed animals grains which in turn wreaks havoc in the including cancer in CON-sumers who ingest.

If DJT admin is advancing this, then he also is clueless having value system conflicts.

Steenroid's avatar

No ruminants don’t get stomach cancer you frigging idiot. Have you ever done a post on a cow? I doubt it. I’ve done hundreds and have fed thousands of ruminants during my career as a Ruminant Nutritionist.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Extract thy head from thy arse. Way north of your assertions.

Crowing for industry is the stupidest position one might assume.

caveat emptor's avatar

You beat me to it, J-O.

BIG AG, and every entity in that web of squeezing the final and ultimate penny out of the Almighty Buck, the health of the populace be damned, have brought us to this.

I asked Perplexity what ELSE it is used for:

"Glyphosate is used as a pre‑harvest desiccant (or “harvest aid”) on a range of crops beyond wheat.

Reported uses as a desiccant include:

Oats and barley (small grains similar to wheat).

Other cereals and grains such as rye, triticale, millet, and corn in some regions.

Pulses/legumes such as peas, lentils, chickpeas, dry beans, and other edible beans.

Oilseeds such as canola and flax.

Root and sugar crops such as sugar beets and sometimes potatoes.

Sugar cane and some seed crops according to farm and advocacy reports.

The main purposes are to:

Speed and even out drying so harvest can occur earlier and more uniformly.

Help control late‑season weeds that interfere with harvest equipment."

Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

We have the where-with-all to grow food without glyphosate. It will take some time and planning, implementing to get us where we need to be. We need to start doing this now.

I get Jeff C's dilemma about being against glyphosate in food and having it in the garage for weeds. I use neem on my garden tower on my lanai and it works. My husband has round up in the garage. ??? We'er not on the same page.

Truth Seeker's avatar

your husband in this regard is a fool... there are consequences for that type of foolery

Justin's avatar

And DDT appears to be tied to polio. Can't imagine bringing that back.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Jeff C is without clue regarding any Biological concept...

liz's avatar

The reason why American flour makes people sick w celiac etc is the ROUND UP RESISTANT WHEAT farmers are sowing. We have to move past these toxic chemicals in our food!!!

This is why you can eat pasta and bread in Italy and be just fine..

KC's avatar

"American farmers can’t grow corn, soybeans, or wheat" <--??? WTF?

America grew corn, soybeans, and wheat for decades without glyphosate. All over Europe farmers are currently growing crops without glyphosate. What the hell are you even talking about?

Jpeach's avatar

Thank you Florida for testing and exposing glyphosate laden breads and cereals! I will avoid these foods and warn friends/family.

George Burnet's avatar

I can imagine that farming has become a sophisticated, tight-margin industry, with farmers make large (and financed) capital equipment and other investments based on assumptions and forecasts covering multiple years. They may need some time to adapt to farming without Roundup.

VelvetStitching's avatar

As a daughter of a farmer who worked grain fields in the Midwest - daddy did use some chemicals to discourage weeds. Farmers expected some weeds would be present at the end harvest and were filtered at the grain elevators. Farmers were docked of the weeds on the Harvest were beyond a certain percent.

But Farming is a different game now.

- Carolyn - you are right - corporations (or massive farms) (30,000 acres or more) have purchased up many of the small family owned farms.

These massive farms have equipment guided by GPS and even robotic self driving machines. Small farmers (family owned) can't compete with the big machines! They harvest the grain still standing in the field (we cut ours and it had to dry it out before harvesting it up off the ground in swaths.)

In order to harvest standing grain it has to be sprayed with chemicals that hasten the ripening - and it already has layers of other chemicals to make it grow more abundantly with no weeds!

Believe me, Farming isn't what it used to be!

And the crop and products produced from the harvests isn't either!

SM's avatar

The state of Fl's website exposingfoodtoxins.com has a suggestions box!! Everyone can submit their top food priorities and ideas!

We all need to suggest eggs, milk, beef and poultry with studies showing mRNA levels along with other toxins.

Carolyn's avatar

Isn't most farming now done by large corporations/companies like Monsanto, Cargill, etc etc

RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. I think the point was that it is not feasible to switch over immediately. It’ll take time to make the transition.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Corn, soybeans, and wheat, referred to as "food"? They may be food, but not food fit for human consumption. Food for cattle maybe. Glyphosate should have been banned permanently years ago. I know Trump wants to protect our farmers, but this is protecting BIG AG. Our food production system is nearly as worthless as our public schools.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Not even fit for cattle. Remember, you drink their milk and all products made with milk and eat meat. Cattle deserve good food too as God intended.

rolandttg's avatar

Remember, it seems Mad Cow disease came from sick farmers feeding cows cow parts mixed in their food. What we feed animals is criminal. The reason most chicken is not fit to eat is they are fed glysophate tainted feed.

RunningLogic's avatar

It was sheep parts. Some of the sheep had had scrapie (a brain disease) and their parts were mixed into the feed. It seems beyond stupid to give meat to herbivores and not expect that it will cause any issues 😕

Aegeandreams's avatar

Yes indeed and I see that Israel feeds its cows chicken feces. I just learned this from Joel Salatin who is helping Israeli farmers work the land and he told us this in his blog. So in fact, people are eating shi*.

rolandttg's avatar

They use human shit on the fields in Switzerland and other EU countries (not good to be driving by when they are spreading it), and they have started doing it in this country too. Any chance there are SSRI's in there, and God knows what else?"

laura-ann Knox's avatar

Tbh, "night soil" has been used on crops for millennia in Asia.

A diet low in protein and high in veggie matter is suitable for poop-ilizer. High protein diets (like dog diets) have too many amino acids in the poop, so they burn the crops.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Point taken, but much of the commercial corn production is used as food for cattle.

walk2write's avatar

At least in Illinois, much if not most of the commercial corn production is used to make ethanol for adding to gasoline and has been heavily subsidized for many years.

Duckduffer's avatar

Approximately 25% to 30% of the corn produced in Illinois is used for ethanol production. Leaves a bunch for livestock ie food supply.

Aegeandreams's avatar

that is why we need to eat grass fed only.

MJ's avatar

Bible teaches that animals are valuable and deserving of respect and care from humans, who are called to be good stewards of them.

JBell's avatar

Trump is protecting one part of the whole - Phosphates are used in other areas - as mentioned in the article.

He did this via Executive Order. Maybe Congress can codify it into law, using Phosphates for other uses and NOT is food production!

sandy's avatar

The EO specifies this is being done to protect glyphosate to help food producers. Our health is being disregarded in order to protect their profits.

Steve Stevens's avatar

He’s doing what all establishment Republicans do. Protect corporations at all costs.

rolandttg's avatar

Republicans? it's the ini party, remember? Dems are even worse than Republicans these days.

Steve Stevens's avatar

Overall the Dems are way worse than the Republicans.

But when it comes to the specific issue of corporate welfare, the Republicans are most guilty of that.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Probably shouldn’t be feeding the cattle this either. I’m sure it’s not good for their health. It’s not really good for them to eat a high corn diet either. I think most of us are aware that grass fed beef is nutrionally superior to corn fed.

Mark Green's avatar

You are showing your ignorance in the subject. Corn soybeans and wheat are used as feed in every dairy and cattle operation in the world. No grains=no milk or meats or bread or any number of other products. This is a complicated, multi layered issue. Of which you have no knowledge. We all need to stop popping off with emotion versus critical thinking

Heather B's avatar

@KC You nailed it. WTF is right. Of COURSE Roundup is not needed to grow food. Those of us spending the money to eat an organic diet can attest to that.

Susan Seas's avatar

PS Don’t eat corn or soy! Probably should avoid wheat as well, but it’s harder.

wily_coyote-genius's avatar

I wanted to post this generally, but here is good time to post. The corn and soy that is grown is not edible. It's used for oil, cattle feed and fuel, (corn). The soy is used for oils and other products. It's not edamame that you'd eat from the grocery store or all you can eat sushi place. You would break your teeth on both those if try. I've done a deep dive on glyphosate. It is interrupts the shikimate pathway in plants which is how it kills the weeds and the soy and corn stay unaffected. The makers of Roundup geoengineered the herbicide to resist destroying the corn and soy. The trouble is, the studies have been done on humans have been biased to show results it isn't harmful, but we know many people have suffered gluten intolerance since the introduction to wheat. If you want to buy flour, make sure it comes from Europe where glyphosate is banned.

wily_coyote-genius's avatar

I wanted to also add, they are using glyphosate as a desiccant, (drying agent) so they can harvest all at once. Glyphosate is found in the sugar you put in your coffee, bake with etc. I can't find a sugar refinery that doesn't source their sugar cane from farms in the Western Hemisphere that doesn't use glyphosate as a desiccant with the exception of organic Kirkland brand sugar. That was the only answer I got from all the emails I sent out about a year ago to all the sugar refineries.

rolandttg's avatar

YES. Jeff totally failed to address this very important issue. This is just plain lazy and greedy. It started with wheat in 1997, but they now do it to a number of crops, to include millet, oats, and barley. No excuse for this

Tardigrade's avatar

It's so they can harvest the standing grain using machinery.

Vivian's avatar

Great post. I refer to it as a glyphosate sensitivity instead of a gluten sensitivity after suffering for years. The wheat is sprayed heavily the last two weeks to dry it quickly for harvesting. All part of the great poisoning.

Juju's avatar

I buy Einkorn flour online. Is that one OK? It sounds like it’s natural and they don’t use chemicals in processing….

Ned B.'s avatar

I buy Einkorn flour here at the local store here in Northern California. It is an ancient grain, never even hybridized, naturally low in gluten and easy to digest. It is expensive however.

Juju's avatar

Yes but given I have a low carb diet I don’t use as much flour as I did in the past, and only purchase it once a year now - so cheaper in the end 😆

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I pick up einkorn flour (or berries) with my weekly raw milk order. Grown on PA farms engaged in regen ag. And just this morning, at milk pick-up, some hard red wheat flour, stone-ground, from Lancaster Cty Pa farms. And as my farmer supplier points out, less costly than einkorn.

rolandttg's avatar

Yes. I buy it too

SteelJ's avatar

Seems like it would depend on the individual grower. Einkorn is just a different variety. I don't know why applying it before harvest as a dessicant would be any less useful for Einkorn than modern wheat strains. Maybe more so, since modern food crops are often bred so the entire crop matures at the same time.

Juju's avatar

I buy from einkorn.com. It looks like they don’t use GMO, they only use biological pest controls and no synthetic fertilizers …

SteelJ's avatar

You're probably OK with them. OTOH, when the wealthiest and most powerful people are mostly scum who can't be trusted in the least, it's naive to think there aren't plenty of companies claiming their products are organic when they are not. I'm pretty sure I've read false claims of "organic", "pesticide free", etc. are common. Testing and enforcement isn't much of a thing.

rolandttg's avatar

Fine if it is going just for fuel, but why are we using crops for fuel and heavily subsiding a sub standard fuel. If it is for livestock we eat that livestock, Sadly, I do not think glysophate is banned in Europe. There has been a lot of stop start and back again, always after serious lobbying (payola) . We like Einkorn, the original wheat, but much smaller kernels.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Husband destroyed a Husqvarna saw not realizing the power of ethanol in that small engine. Lesson learned.

rolandttg's avatar

Yup. I always use no ethanol , and premium no ethanol most of the time. Friend who used to be a helicopter mechanic then pilot uses aviation fuel in his . Voids the warranty, but he does not care as he does his own work on them.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Hm. Chainsaw major user has access to Jet A.

Tardigrade's avatar

I only put non-ethanol gas in my vehicles (the newest of which is 22 years old). Around here, the only non-ethanol available is always premium. I get better mileage and it's better for the vehicles.

Ethanol destroys small engines like chainsaws and lawnmowers. Before he died, my brother was busy resuscitating small engines for people.

Susan Seas's avatar

It is not banned. Watch Jeremy Clarkstons Farm

rolandttg's avatar

just going by what the guy doing its told me

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Italy has the best and safest flour I am told...

Richard Whitney's avatar

That is right. All that corn and soy are not grown for humans, except when humans eat the animals that are fed it. They use the corn to burn in cars, and they export a lot of it to China. We wouldn't starve without it.

When Roundup was first approved, the farmer next door used it the first year.

I'm guessing Monsanto supplied it for free.

They sold it as a herbicide that only harmed herbaceous plants, not woody plants, and definitely not humans. They lied.

Anyway, the first year, he stopped to eat lunch under my tree, that was on the border of his field. He left the Roundup running the entire time.

I was annoyed and worried, but the tree was OK that year.

The next year, though, it only leafed out on one side. The other side was dead.

Two years later, the entire tree died.

Roundup is bad.

Mrs. RW

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Exactly! The movie, “ King Corn”, maybe 25(?) years old, really opened my eyes. Should be played as part of high school or even middle school curriculum, in addition to “ Supersize Me”, and other very instructional and entertaining movies.

Merry McIntyre's avatar

Probably PAID studies like most science these days.

el bicho palo's avatar

As far as I know, Europe gave a five year extension on the commercial use of Glyphosate. I mean I could search, but at the state of my current knowledge, at elast in Spain, it is still in use, including as a 'dessicant' before harvest.

nik's avatar

The book, Wheat Belly does a great job of outlining the crazy history of modern wheat!

Tardigrade's avatar

That book changed my life, along with Good Calories, Bad Calories.

nik's avatar

1. The Bible

2. Metabolical

3. Wheat Belly

lol 👆

wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Read it! Excellent book

laura-ann Knox's avatar

Omg a properly baked crusty baguette is proof that God loves us

Susan Seas's avatar

🥖😋❤️‍🔥

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Jeff's lack of knowledge of truly responsible farming practices is a shocking outlier to his overall excellent encyclopedic knowledge

No, Jeff, we don't need Roundup

And when you spray it on your driveway and your dog sniffs it and then licks your kids on the face???

... or countless other scenarios of contamination

Aegeandreams's avatar

Exactly. See Joel Salatin for how to implement regenerative farming.

His blog is: Musings from The Lunatic Farmer

KC's avatar

Exactly! I thoroughly enjoy C&C & Jeff's (usually) informed opinions, but every now and then I just want to smack him on the back of the head, like...dude, huh?! LOL

sandy's avatar

Cleaning vinegar kills weeds.

rolandttg's avatar

So does a propane blowtorch. So does salt.

Richard Whitney's avatar

I leave the weeds. Come fall, the bees and butterflies love them.

Mrs. RW

Karen Bauer's avatar

I asked grok. Entire answer is worth asking and reading yourself but here’s an interesting excerpt (laughing that even grok can’t help but quoting “the experts!):

### Why It's Hard to Quit (But Not Impossible)

- Weed resistance has already reduced its effectiveness in many areas (over 14 glyphosate-resistant weed species in the U.S.), forcing farmers to mix in other herbicides anyway. Some experts argue glyphosate's dominance is already declining due to this.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Roundup is pure poison, full stop. It should be stopped right this moment without exception.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

3 (?) years ago there was an uproar over farmers not being able to get nitrogen (probably urea) for spring planting. I chuckled as wise farmers don't have to rely on bags of powder.

Christine's avatar

Right? Good old animal poop does the job well.

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Where do you acquire enough manure to effectively fertilize the 2 million acres of wheat grown in Washington state alone?

It takes 4 or 5 thousand gallons of liquid dairy manure PER ACRE for wheat, top=dressed. That's 8 BILLION gallons of good old animal poop.

Or you could use solid chicken coop litter; only need 2 tons per acre for that, so a mere 8000 or 10,000 tons of that.

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Oops, I mean 4 million tons overall. gosh, math is tricky.

Christine's avatar

You acquire it from raising the animals that poop. The problem is monocropping 2 million acres to begin with. Regenerative farming practices, like what Joel Salatin does, doesn't require artificial inputs.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Much more effective to dump it into the Mississippi River and kill off a good portion of the Gulf of America, right?

Nothing says "America" like destroying the environment for profit and convenience.

Mrs. RW

nancy roberts's avatar

People prefer to eat unseen chemicals even if they are, in the typically worded way we have become accustomed to...aka BS and lies. Just ask around you. I have asked people what they would prefer. The thought of eating an occasional tiny worm that does no harm or chemicals they can't see but know they do you no good. So far...in my circle...chemicals win. I don't get it, but yet not the least bit surprised. It is all about appearances and presentation. And money of course!

rolandttg's avatar

When I see any worms in my ears of corn I buy, I smile, because I know they weren't drowned in Roundup.

Nancy Spurlock's avatar

I don't think worms are affected by roundup, an herbicide. A pesticide would deter worms. But glyphosate is sprayed on almonds, peaches, tomatoes, cotton, sugar cane, and all grains, to name a few. Only organic products don't bother me. Or home grown. It's an expensive, time consuming nuisance that wasn't necessary when I was younger.

rolandttg's avatar

You remember what they called organic food when we were young? Food.

Tardigrade's avatar

"Give me spots on my apples, but leave me the birds and the bees. Please." From Big Yellow Taxi by Joni Mitchell.

el bicho palo's avatar

"That was Big Yellow Taxi by Joni Mitchell, a song in which Joni complains they 'Paved paradise to put up a parking lot', a measure which actually would have alleviated traffic congestion on the outskirts of paradise, something which Joni singularly fails to point out, perhaps because it doesn't quite fit in with her blinkered view of the world.

Nevertheless, nice song."

Alan Partridge

SteelJ's avatar

My thoughts exactly. Sure it would be inconvenient, maybe even quite disruptive, for a while. But worth it.

Bruce Hartnett's avatar

See my above comment: 🙏✝️❤️👉👍"...many don't know that it is also used to 'ripen' many grain crops, or in other words kill it all so it is all ready to harvest (increased yields) - but obviously this comes at a huge cost both monetarily and health wise...."

This is the use of Roundup that ends up in the food, and damages our health, etc.! Not when used as a "weed" killer.

neener's avatar

They think they can't. 40 some years ago, all farmers walked bean fields with a hoe to get rid of weeds. And hired people to do it. But there were more farmers then, and many farms were smaller. And most farmers grew up performing manual labor on a daily basis. Now the farmer sits in the tractor and never gets out. Corn and soybeans have been genetically altered so that Roundup does not affect them. If it can't be done with a machine it is problematic these days. Many weeds have developed resistance. Reliance on glyphosate was paramount during the "no till" push from the USDA - supposedly to stop erosion and keep soil from blowing away. Trade offs are unavoidable in solving problems.

Richard Whitney's avatar

I remember that slogan. But now they use Roundup and they till. No advantage.

I worked swing shift for many years, and came home seeing fireflies in the fields, even after they started using Roundup. It's an herbicide, not a pesticide, after all.

Oops! Now there are no fireflies in those fields. Whatever the poison kills, it affects the fireflies also.

Mrs. RW

RSgva's avatar

I think a lot of our crop is now the fake food kind that you can’t even eat. At least this is what came out on 60 Minutes.

Cousin Clem's avatar

I guess you didn't read the whole comment.

Maureen ODH's avatar

🎯👏🏻🎯👏🏻🎯👏🏻🎯👏🏻

Mystic William's avatar

The purpose of roundup is to increase crop yields. If Roundup is yanked and crop yields drop by 20% it would be a catastrophe. I can grow corn in my backyard. At a cost of about $100 a pound.

Tom's avatar

"Brad Reese, 70, is the grandson of H.B. Reese, who, back in 1928, invented the Peanut Butter Cup in his basement"

Lies.

I saw a 30 second documentary during a break in a Gilligan's Island episode that CLEARLY depicts the discovery by a guy tripping on a roller skate, causing him to jam his chocolate bar into a jar of peanut butter.

George Burnet's avatar

um,....NO...it was the dude getting jostled while eating his chocolate bar on the train, who lost his balance and lurched into the guy eating peanut butter straight out of the jar. The guy exclaims "Hey! You stuck a chocolate bar in my peanut butter!....." I saw it all on TV, so it must be true.

Tom's avatar

That's just what Big Roller Skate wants you to believe.

Wake up, people!

The Great Santini's avatar

I thought it was a guy and a girl. Back then, heterosexuals were the baseline assumption.

MS's avatar

I heard it was a peanut copulating with a cocoa bean in a wet-market in Wuhan China.

jmsmithmd's avatar

No it was an elevator crush.

Jeff S's avatar

"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale..."

Margot Wooster's avatar

I can remember the words to the Gilligan’s Island theme song, but not what I did yesterday 😂

Jeff S's avatar

I had to learn it for trivia contests. It opens and closes the show!

Valerie's avatar

I see we are products of the same generation. 😂

Jpeach's avatar

I saw that documentary too. It was short, credible and made total sense.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Hershey products are all bioengineered as well. I know this bc I called the company. The only product without bioengineering is the Hershey chocolate chips used to make cookies. I have stopped eating all Hershey products.

rolandttg's avatar

My dad used to be the plant manger for Nielson's in Toronto, the biggest chocolate mfg in Canada at the time. He knew chocolate, and as kids, if we got any Hershey products it Halloween, we gave them away. We knew what good chocolate tasted like , and Hershey and Stovers were crap. He thought little about any of the chocolate made in the US, with Lindt being an exception. He always bought chocolates from Switzerland, Holland, or Germany after he left that job.

Aegeandreams's avatar

There is a huge difference in taste!

Beckadee's avatar

So which is it? Is it all Hershey products or just the chocolate chips? Thanks.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Ugh, I caught my mistake Beckadee. Typing too fast.

The only product without bioengineering is the Hershey chocolate chips used to make cookies. All other have BE ingredients.

Beckadee's avatar

Awesome thank you.

Juju's avatar
Feb 19Edited

🤣🤣🤣

Edit: I’m still laughing 🤣

RJ Rambler's avatar

😄 I saw that same thing exactly!

Jean Mac's avatar

No! The chocolate truck collided with the peanut butter truck …I saw that on TV!

Christine's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thanks for being honest about your weedkiller Jeff, and pointing out the hypocrisy. As a farmer myself, I will also say that organic farming is much more resilient to pests and climage "change" than any pesticide ever will be.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Speaking of weeds, what do we have avaliable to deal with AOC and Mandami?

SM's avatar

Just the good old TRUTH and a heavy dose of reality!

In fact, if someone were to play endless clips to the weeds of Mamdani and AOC talking, they would die 😂

KSB's avatar

Oh that was good!

Aegeandreams's avatar

Joel Salatin who you probably know already travels the world teaching regenerative farming. His blog is called Musings from the Lunatic Farmer.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yes he's amazing...thank you for mentioning him!

KSB's avatar

I live in Florida and was so pleased that a regenerative farmer arrived near us 2 years ago. Excellent teacher as well!

Aegeandreams's avatar

What a blessing that is! Enjoy what he or she has to teach:}

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I misread that as Joe Stalin. Lol.

rolandttg's avatar

He is about an hour and a half from us.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

And whoever called these little green fellows "weeds"? By the same logic, the elite call us "weeds" and instead of Roundup they use vaccines.

Aegeandreams's avatar

very good point Navyo.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

And I happen to love dandelions. Many if not most of what we call weeds are medicinal.

wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Especially when you have diatomaceous earth to help

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yes that's a good one! Great for cucumber beetles.

Garner's avatar

Do these cause the little green worms?

Maureen ODH's avatar

Roman… 👌 🎯👏🏻🎯👏🏻🎯👏🏻🎯👏🏻

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

🙏 Thanks Maureen! I love your profile image btw - amber glasses are amazing at blocking blue light 💻

Valerie's avatar

Jeff is going to be on Mike Rowe? I CANNOT WAIT!

Bgagnon's avatar

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

Valerie's avatar

Mike Rowe is such a good interviewer. He’s one of the few I’ll listen to even if the topic doesn’t look interesting.

dbowde's avatar

“ Kind of like when a cardiologist orders ribeye”

Unfortunately we need to change some puns and quips because this is no longer true. Ribeye is NOT bad for the heart as we’ve been lied to about for decades.

Juju's avatar

I literally eat a ribeye 5 out of every 7 days year round. It’s my diet for the past four years. I’ll do chicken/pork/fish on occasion but my palette changed to crave ribeyes and only ribeyes. LOL Well … NY Strip too.

I buy huge $200-$300 roasts and cut the steaks myself and vacuum seal them. Easy to thaw in cold water when need to. I get about 20 one pound high quality steaks out of each roast. The cost comes to about $13-$15 per steak, and given that I rarely can eat the full 16 oz I get two meals out of each. So I’m eating a nice quality ribeye for every meal at only $7 each. It’s the only way I can afford my diet. Last I checked a single package of two ribeyes in the store was over $40. That’s just insane. I like the way I do it.

Jeff S's avatar

Okay. That's enough. I'll move into your boarding house.

Bob Borkle's avatar

Juju,

Where do you buy the ribeye roasts?

Juju's avatar

Well right now I get them from Costco. The largest rib roasts and Strip roasts have been basically good quality every time.

However, recently I bought a smaller 5-6lb boneless rib roast to just cook as a meal, and OMG it was the most AWFUL quality of meat I have ever had. Every single piece of fat had some kind of rubbery tube running through it making it impossible to cut or eat. It was riddled with them all over the roast. Disgusting. A good cut of roast has delicious fat that does NOT have any of that running through it. The meat was dry and chewy too even though it was cooked to medium rare.

It really rattled me. I’ll never buy a small roast from them again. I don’t trust the quality now. But so far the larger roasts seem to be worth it and I’ve never had that kind of problem with them.

I wish I could afford the small natural beef farms but I can’t afford my diet buying from them. Plus they don’t allow me to buy these large roast cuts. They only allow packages that have maybe 4-6 steaks in them and a ton of cuts that I don’t use, mostly ground beef and extras, plus lower quality cuts.

Susan V's avatar

Don’t buy any fish or meat from Costco. Need to buy from local farmer , Amish and unfortunately it’s not cheap

Bgagnon's avatar

Great idea Juju! Maybe hubs and I will try it! We love good steak!

Jeff S's avatar

Ribeye isn't good for the cows.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Chicken isn't good for chickens.

MS's avatar

Too many ribs aren't great for men either.. which is why God took one out and created a woman out of it.

Jeff S's avatar

Even God makes mistakes. Er, why is that lightening striking outside my bedroom window?

Aloha50's avatar

That was a boomer quip from Jeff. I Cringed

Evangeline's avatar

Its no shame to be a boomer! Im so tired of being boomer shamed! Gen whatever, youre going to miss us when were gone and your younger idiots start dissing your era and contributions.

SD Scott's avatar

The younger ones often have no work ethic whatsoever, no empathy or customer service.

Just entitled, disengaged, rule followers. It’s chilling to be losing creativity, initiative and individuality from the world.

The virtual programming flattens human souls.

Ashley's avatar

There is hope. Not all of them are like that. My two are super hard working and think out of the box.

SD Scott's avatar

That’s so awesome! Yes, when I meet a godly, talented young adult it is a wonderful thing!

CStone's avatar

He was being sarcastic, as those same ‘doctors’ are the ones telling us to not eat ribeyes.

Jeff S's avatar

Ribeye schmibeye. We should eat whatever we want. For longevity, I recommend frozen mini marshmallows.

Emil's avatar
Feb 19Edited

Jeff, you can hit your weeds with 30% concentrated vinegar instead of Round Up. Best to do on a sunny, dry day.

LHuff8's avatar

Add salt and a little dish detergent to help it stick to the leaves. By afternoon, they're dead. Great for cracks because the salt, etc. discourages anything from growing there again! Recipes on the internet.

shayne's avatar

And make sure the water is at high temp as well. This is how we keep the weeds at bay.

Kelly's avatar

This doesn't work, either. Tried it, too

CStone's avatar

We have tried it and it works.

STH's avatar

Did you try the extra strong vinegar? It works way better than the grocery store strength.

Carolyn's avatar

Oh yes it does. Hot water will kill weeds.

LogicFirst's avatar

30% vinegar** has to be used, you’ll need to order it online. We haven’t used any chemicals to manage our 1.5 acre heavily wooded lot in years. All the weeds / poison ivy / etc get hit with 30% vinegar.

We put the 30% vinegar (no additional ingredients) into a outdoor sprayer bottle. Go spray away with a much, much safer alternative to keeping Roundup in your home.

**If you are using store bought vinegar (5%) it will not work. most of the online recipes you see with multiple ingredients is using 5% vinegar. That’s why the other ingredients are there.

rolandttg's avatar

Here's another, but you need to live in the country. When I am working outside and don't want to take my boots off to pee, I do it outside. As do most honest country folk. But I pick weeds . Takes a couple of times, but it will kill the weeds.

Richard Whitney's avatar

It took me a couple of seconds to figure out why you needed to take your boots off to pee. Thanks for the laugh.

Mrs. RW

ItsMeAgain's avatar

Thanks for the tip about salt & soap!

LHuff8's avatar

(Salt & soap along with vinegar). I just use regular white vinegar. Great for cracks where you don't want anything to grow. The salt will corrode your spray bottle, so either finish spraying with water to clean it out, or just pour the solution directly on the weed, which is what I do now because I want the solution to go down in the cracks.

Peter's avatar

Just takes one goat 🐐

Bgagnon's avatar

Or some sheep! I live in No Cal wine country and everyone uses sheep herds for weeding - Wooly Weeders they are called! 😆

Garner's avatar

Wish I could get a goat!

Cabogirl's avatar

Or you can get one of those flame throwing things that burn them.

Ruth's avatar

Like my neighbor did, caught some dry debris with his flame thrower that a breeze took to his garage and set it on fire, causing entire house and contents unlivable for 9 months! Be careful of those flame throwers!

Horizons's avatar

Just don't torch the weeds in your mulched garden beds unless burning the house down is on the to-do list. I do flame the weeds in my pea-graveled driveway after a rain. They shrivel immediately in a burst of steam and don't grow back. Very satisfying!

Tim R's avatar

The Round-up we buy at Home Depot, etc. no longer has glyphosate as an ingredient (now maybe what they have in their now is bad too, I don't know). I have used Vinegar in the past. It is less toxic to humans, but salt and vinegar solutions can still cause damage to the soil and any water sources nearby.

Cousin Clem's avatar

Yeah, I think the replacement is just as bad or worse. Like when they removed BP-A from plastics and replaced with BP-S. Just as bad.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

EXACTLY 💯

they just substitute something else equally as toxic but 'not proved' yet

rolandttg's avatar

Can only use salt in areas you do not want to grow anything ie your driveway or paths.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I did that--with Harris 30%. Weeds went black then came right back. Seem to be having more success with upping the Ca in the soil. As in "weeds are not THE problem, they are indicators of A problem (Glen Rabenburg, Soil Solutions LLC)

Garner's avatar

Yeah, this is what we do. The high percentage. Smells a little like pickles for a while. :)

Aegeandreams's avatar

I use vinegar, works like a charm.

Kelly's avatar

That doesn't work. Tried it.

CStone's avatar

We trued it and it does work.

You may have to do it more often, but it works.

Cabogirl's avatar

Have you tried that weed burning flame thing? My friend has one. Sometimes though she says it does not totally kill the roots.

Cousin Clem's avatar

Or a person might just bend down and yank them out, like people used to do before all the poisons came along.

Gaye's avatar

I’ve had a burner for years and use it all the time. Gas canisters are expensive tho. I use it in walks around trees I don’t want to damage.

Kelly's avatar

Lol…my bf did, last year. He caught the lawn on fire by our main road, and ended up with the fire dept here! 😀

The flame thrower was the only thing that seemed to really help, tho.

Barbls's avatar

BREAKING NEWS — British police arrest former Prince Andrew

COOL. Now round up and arrest the R*PE gangs.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Andrew is a scapegoat for the rest of the "royal family". The faux King cheated on his wife, and then was complicit in her death, imo. Now he promotes the invasion of foreigners to Britain and the displacement of natives. He needs to be deposed and exiled Or worse.

SD Scott's avatar

It’s probably his half brother (recall the Queen’s friendship with Lord Porchy), whom he always despised.

King Charlie used to be way too close to Jimmy Saville - and Lord Mountbatten before that.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

And arrested in his 66th birthday in 2026. That 6 thing keeps showing up.

BeadleBlog's avatar

As far as the adultery of Charles, I no more care about that than I do about Trump's adulterous affairs. On the second point, I don't know if he has any power and/or influence over that problem.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I am not aware of any of Trump's "adulterous affairs". He had more than one marriage, but he did not have to kill his former wives.

And of course Charles has influence, but he uses it against the people.

BeadleBlog's avatar

You missed the pregnant mistress tangling with the first wife at the ski resort. Anyway, I don’t care about the marriages or affairs of either man. I do care about what policies Trump carries out, and he’s doing just fine.

walk2write's avatar

My eyes must be playing tricks on me. When I read “Charles has influence…,” I thought I saw “Charles has flatulence, but he uses it against the people.”

Aegeandreams's avatar

Exactly. Pot calling kettle black.

Lydia Lozano's avatar

Now I wonder what will happen to Peter Mandelson, who had many, many more secrets to share with Epstein than Andrew did. Apparently none of the pervs in our country are going to pay the price.

rolandttg's avatar

quote of the day was Kier Starmer saying "no one is above the law ". I laughed for a full minute.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Why have such a negative attitude? This is a good first step!

Aegeandreams's avatar

We are weary of waiting Margot. These demons need to meet earthly justice while we all still live so we can see it. God can then have them in the afterlife and throw them into the pit of fire.

Lisa's avatar

What if Andrew squeals on other offenders? Maybe they are building cases so they can arrest others. They can't arrest, try and convict on emails with odd language. I don't know about videos. I hear about videos but haven't seen transcripts of what and who is in the videos.

MaryAnn's avatar

Randy Andy does appear weak and likely to sing if it helps his cause. He may be the next ‘casualty’ if he even begins to clear his throat. I wonder if he has a food taster.😳

Cabogirl's avatar

…and could we start doing some of that arresting here in the states. !!!!

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Exactly what I said! They front page announced his arrest but the older than 10yrs since they began Pakistani rape gangs ... crickets! Blows my mind! Protecting illegals... no problem!! Both desperately need addressing!

el bicho palo's avatar

30 or 40 years, more like it, since the grooming gangs started

Athos22's avatar

I want to know who Green Lighted (Approved) of the arrest of Prince Andrew? Was it Keir Starmer deflecting attention from his problems?

Gaye's avatar

Rape and torture don’t count if you’re brown and peaceful. Otherwise, “Bye Felicia!”

Jacqueline's avatar

He’s already been released

CH's avatar

I'm under the impression that DDT poisoning mimics the same symptoms as polio. I have read that the mass spraying of DDT on crops is what actually caused the paralysis blamed on the polio outbreaks in the 1940's and 50's. Some claim that polio wasn't eradicated by the vaccine but by stopping the spraying of DDT on crops. Sometimes it is easy to know what is the truth (like the adsurd mandates ordered during the scamdemic) and sometimes it isn't, like in this case. I don't blindly believe everything I read so what is the truth? I am honestly asking.

Runemasque's avatar

Forrest Maready wrote Moth in the Iron Lung. It describes the introduction of a non native moth that destroyed many agricultural products. Then people started coating apples and produce with lead arsenate and sticky poisons, promoting them as perfectly fine to ingest. Read it. It is my rough memory of what I read. The polio virus refers to something broadly present that is not always tied to paralysis. Changing definitions over time can tailor the story of the illness. https://a.co/d/05c2bXGf. I would not be surprised if Unbekoming has a book summary amongst the posts.

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

In my humble opinion Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries, MD is has the most thorough and concise information on Polio and vaccines in general. She takes a deep dive into all vaccines and destroys what we've been told!

MKnight's avatar

Read that a few times and was completely shocked to see Jeff defending DDT. Whaaaaat? The thing that probably turned everyone’s guts into Swiss cheese because they bathed in the poison? Seriously?

STH's avatar

Jeff obviously has not read Dissolving Illusions.

SD Scott's avatar

Polio just got relabeled as other types of paralysis to prop up a lucrative narrative. It never went away.

Bradley Lewis's avatar

Polio wasn't eradicated, however. Definitely recommend the book referenced by Maready, and while polio decreased with DDT ban the way polio was being categorized radically changed so the same symptoms were being recategorized as different neurological conditions, encephalitis being the biggie if I recall correctly. Cases were also inflated to scare the public early on by requiring a very low bar for a polio diagnosis like any sort of paralysis for just a 24 hour period. Anyone might have recovered in a fairly short time but were still a "case" whereas later the period of time was extended greatly. I cannot remember how long but was probably a week or maybe even longer in order to be called polio.

Tonya's avatar

Maready does a great job of detailing the complex history of various types of agricultural and medical poison and other medical interventions and how their uses intersected with outbreaks of polio, as well as the way polio was diagnosed (often just a clinical diagnosis based on symptoms) and the redefinition of polio after the vaccines were available.

It's not just "DDT caused polio" or "DDT didn't cause polio." That's way too simplistic.

Jeff isn't there yet, but I hope he will get there someday. But his reliance on "the experts" and "studies" on this topic, and his suggestion that Offit wasn't totally corrupt before covid are troublesome.

Shelle's avatar

I'm with you on wanting to know the truth and finding it complicated. Also, if Paul Offit was defending DDT, was there a poison people could be exposed to and harmed by that he didn't like? His precious wealth-enhancing vaccines are in the same category. Not a good endorsement.

Still, the importance of ending malaria here in the U.S. cannot be overstated. It was a huge killer. I hope someday I (and society as a whole) will reach a better grasp of what's true here.

Richard Whitney's avatar

I hadn't thought of malaria being a problem in the US, so I looked it up.

It was wiped out by 1951.

It is spread by the type of mosquito that mass murderer Bill Gates is supporting releasing in the US, so be prepared for more malaria.

Or, you know, we could prosecute Bill Gates and throw him into prison. If they don't want to prosecute for his bioweapon support and his investments in vaccines, they can get him for consorting with Epstein.

Mrs. RW

CH's avatar

You have no idea how much I would love to see Bill Gates thrown in prison. It would be great if they can get him on something for his association with Epstein, but the truth is, he should be tried for crimes against humanity and then get the deserved punishment for that.

Shelle's avatar

It was DDT that made it possible to eradicate mosquitoes carrying malaria from the US though and banning it meant other countries couldn't. I don't know, I'm generally against harmful chemicals and we have so many in our daily environment now. Probably many are worse than DDT was and we don't know it. And it also seems crazy to introduce those mosquitoes.

Richard Whitney's avatar

They didn't actually ban it in other countries, though, just the US and other civilized countries. I happen to think that other life on this planet is also important.

There are other ways to eradicate mosquitoes, mostly through drainage projects. And mosquito nets are very effective in stopping malaria.

But yeah, don't think that our overlords care about us or our health. Those days of mosquito eradication are long over. Now they're introducing them.

SMH.

Mrs. RW

rolandttg's avatar

Improved hygiene helped reduce polio. So did breaking out 9 diseases into separate categories that used to all be called polio

Runemasque's avatar

I've met a few people who were said to have polio as a child. They were very strong pro-vax, and you just cannot have a curious conversation when there is so much emotional attachment to the story that has throughout their life explained their experience. I always wonder, though, how do you know that it was a dread polio virus and that things would have been different with a Vax in the mix?

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Both vaxes used live virus. You can't get rid of polio with a vaccine. Many children were diagnosed with polio when the vaccines were introduced. Yes, the vaccine for polio causes polio.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Common sense tells me that eating something which kills vegetation will probably kill me & mine. Apparently an advanced education tells a different story.

I'll stick with common sense thank you!

TriTorch's avatar

All about language:

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

---

A german fired his revolver

bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang

A stranger asked “How? A revolver only got six bullets”

”Nein!” the german replied

---

Researchers for the Western Australian Main Roads Department found over 200 dead crows on the Great Northern Highway recently, and there was concern that they may have died from Avian Flu.

A Pathologist examined the remains of all the crows, and confirmed that it was NOT Avian Flu. The cause of death appeared to be from vehicular impacts. However, during the analysis it was noted that varying colours of paints appeared on the bird's beaks and claws.

By analysing these paint residues it was found that 98% of the crows had been killed by trucks, while only 2% were killed by cars. The MRD then hired an Ornithological Behaviourist to determine if there was a cause for the disproportionate percentages of truck versus car deaths.

The O.B quickly concluded that when crows eat road kill, they always have a look-out crow to warn of impending danger. They discovered that while all the lookout crows could shout "Cah", not a single one could shout "Truck".

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The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations:

the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English". In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi TU understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

Roger Beal's avatar

More wordplay humor, please ... I enjoy it when someone reveals the unlearnable inconsistencies of the English language!

TriTorch's avatar

It's pretty much my favorite subject

VelvetStitching's avatar

Love the laughs! 😂

Jeff S's avatar

Please stop using Roundup, Mr. Childers. It's easy to stoop and pluck out weeds. That's what children are for.

The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Baking soda and a little water works marvelously.

Jeff S's avatar

Good idea, but I prefer to reward my children with the fun task.

Tom's avatar

No, I believe Hobgoblin means that if your children fail at their weeding task, you put them on rations of baking soda and a little water, until they learn to be thorough.

The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I hand pick out of the yard and beds. I use the baking soda method on the driveway and walkway. Saves my fingers from a minor bludgeoning.

Christine's avatar

Yes PLEASE Mr. Childers! Stop adding to the toxic load by spraying roundup on your driveway. It ends up in the soil, it ends up in the water table. And you are personally supporting that horrible company with your dollars.

Aegeandreams's avatar

or use vinegar. works like a charm.

jwemd's avatar

And imagine the physical exertion involved!

Jeff S's avatar

Whew! I'm tired just thinking about forcing my children to tackle the task.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

😂😂

Mrs. "the Knife"

daverkb's avatar

What about bleach mixed with water and then sprayed on weeds?

Connie Benn's avatar

My sister passed away after she was diagnosed with multiple myeloma. While cleaning out her garage we came across many jugs of Round-up that she used to fight poison ivy in her yard. It may not have been the culprit, but I won’t ever use the stuff. I use vinegar & salt. I still have to pull the weeds, but they are massively weakened by the mixture. Honestly, if it came down to using Round-up or having a yard full of weeds, I’ll take the weeds.

Tom's avatar

Many weeds aren't weeds at all.

Clover used to be a component of lawns. Right up until "weed killers" killed clover. Then, the narrative had to include clover among the weeds.

I could make the same case for dandelions, which are edible. Until you put Roundup on them.

Cousin Clem's avatar

Excellent point. Who came up with the idea that lawns must be perfectly mono-cropped and that other than grass is somehow evil and must be eradicated at all costs. Unless you are renting your lawn out as a golf green, I don't see the point in chasing non grass. I often harvest sorrel from my lawn to add to salads. Good stuff with Vit C.

rolandttg's avatar

The whole idea of a lawn is phony. I read something a while back that lawns came about as a status symbol. " I don't need a garden. I have people. I can grow something as useless as grass (they weren't using it for grazing) " Makes sense if you think about it.

RJ Rambler's avatar

You haven't lived until you've tinctured every part, fried, chopped, made dandelion honey, jelly, or fritters. Violet pepper. Elderberry! Honey suckle tea. Get SMART!

Aegeandreams's avatar

I'll take the weeds too.

mspring's avatar

Exactly, one of the many benefits of living in the country is no peer pressure to manicure our lawn. I have never fed or sprayed my yard in the 40+ years. I cut it, when i have to... and it looks just as flat as the next guy's. Plus, i pick the dandelion greens, etc with impunity.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Same here. I don't water, spray, or fertilizer. I just mow, and like you say, it looks like lawn when it's mowed.

But it rains here, so it grows all spring and summer, so I have to mow.

I grew up in California, and if you don't water there, it doesn't grow, so you don't have to mow. One step fewer to a flat yard.

Mrs. RW

J. Lincoln's avatar

As one of the litigants, I heartily endorse your comment.

Connie Benn's avatar

I’m very sorry. I hope all goes well.

J. Lincoln's avatar

Thank you Connie, it's a bit iffy right now, and it has come with a hefty price-tag.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Did you know that CDS is said to eliminate glycophosphate from the body?

Or at least break it down for easier elimination?

Dr. Kalcker is the expert...

GL with your suit!

Abiding Dude's avatar

Chlorine dioxide solution. Look up Dr. Kalcker videos online.

Dawn Ceylong's avatar

Who cares? Let it Burn it down Glyphosate is killing us. It’s absolute betrayal to all people that have been harmed and we are ALL still being harmed by this garbage EVERY DAY . Can’t win can’t even have control over the care and feeding of your own body unless you have land and farming is your only job- even then they contaminated the soil. This decision DISGUSTS ME

Lydia Lozano's avatar

Seems to me like all you need to do is go to the Florida website/data base and see what it is you ought to be avoiding. Or go to a trustworthy natural foods store and buy organic bread. There is a very wide variety available.

Dawn Ceylong's avatar

Dear Seems to me: since it’s obviously no hardship for YOU-are volunteering to shop for me? Because I have normal people limited time and I don’t have a wife or a maid or a personal shopper and I spend 50 hours a week working and driving to/from plus 4-5 hours week in physical rehab- NO ONE should have to spend so much time searching for healthy unadulterated food from multiple sources every week and drive hours to get it. I was a nurse- I do plenty of research. Crap is even found in Organic foods including Glyphosate- it’s EVERYWHERE. And it’s not just on crops as grown- it’s used on lots of food to ’dry them out’ to make it easier for the mass production farming businesses- it’s about GREED AT EVERY LEVEL- it’s even used on nuts. Supporting small healthy farmers and livestock farming is way to go- but local AND state federal government doing everything they can to make it impossible for them to survive. AND government changed definition of “Organic” label like it did definition of a vaccine. There are allowable amounts of chemicals including Gates of Hell’s Organipeel- no disclosure label required!! AND Glyphosate kills bees!!! 😡😡😡 no bees no food Organic or otherwise

Lydia Lozano's avatar

My goodness. I think the glyphosate has already gotten to you. All I said is that it is possible to buy bread that does not contain glyphosate-treated flour. I don't know where you live, but I can and do drive for eight minutes to buy it from a reputable merchant. Sounds like you are under a lot of stress. So sorry.

Christine's avatar

I think you have missed the bigger point here. We should not have to be a sleuth and master researcher just to make a sandwich. The food at the regular grocery stores should not include poison. Period. It's asinine.

Lydia Lozano's avatar

I agree that they shouldn't include poison, but as long as they do I can use my brains to avoid it. I am not too lazy to do that, and don't like whining.

Christine's avatar

Was someone whining? I don't think it's laziness. Or even brain function. You can not avoid poison in your food no matter what you do. It's everywhere.

Carolyn's avatar

Look for non gmo

rolandttg's avatar

I understand, believe me, but unless you know another way, this is what we have to live with. Decades of people being dumbed down, and betrayed by their leadership, and the death of the family have caused people to value convenience above all else. I hate not being able to order take out anymore. and read all the labels, and research this that and the other thing. But that is what we had to do if we wanted to really heal my wife's cancer, and keep it healed. I feel your pain, but I am living it too. Retired, so we have the time, but this is not how I thought I would be spending retirement. We have acreage , so no matter the time of year, there is always something that needs to be done so retirement just means I work for myself, not sit around and drink coffee all day.

Aegeandreams's avatar

organic can still contain glyphosate sadly.

STH's avatar

It can from overspray? But it’s also FAR lower in glyphosate when tested, so I’ll stick with organic.

Lydia Lozano's avatar

So you want me to say I am too stupid to understand the science. OK. If it makes you feel better. I am too stupid to understand the science that I have been reading all my adult life. So sorry. Perhaps you should block me.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Think you replied to the wrong person.

Lydia Lozano's avatar

No, I was replying to you.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Wow, all I said was glyphosate can be in organic food sadly and you come up with that retort? I never said or implied you were stupid.

However, I now believe what you said to Dawn Ceylong applies to you so I will answer you using your own words.

"My goodness. I think the glyphosate has already gotten to you. Sounds like you are under a lot of stress. So sorry."

And I will block you bc your comment to mine was over the top and I do not want to be engaged with anyone that speaks and insults others as you do.

Heather B's avatar

That decision has the power to truly divide MAHA and MAGA. Such a division is NOT a construct of main stream media but of diametrically opposed values.

Aegeandreams's avatar

MAGA and MAHA won't split. They are still too powerful together. I am both and know we can't always get exactly what we want. The consumer will have to do the best to discern what goes in their mouths.

STH's avatar

Absolutely we don’t have to buy it. So the stupid people will be hurt the most. 🤷‍♀️

Abiding Dude's avatar

Trump making MIGA his first priority has cratered both MAGA and MAHA.

Dawn Ceylong's avatar

As I said “unadulterated”

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Sing to Yahweh a new song,

Sing His praise from the end of the earth!

You who go down to the sea, as well as its fullness.

You coastlands, and those who inhabit them.

— Isaiah 42:10 LSB

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Dr Jen | Syringa Wellness's avatar

Covid and law related, something from my substack feed... 👀 "In a watershed moment that should send shockwaves across the Atlantic, University College London has agreed to pay £21 million to settle a lawsuit brought by 6,500 former students who claimed their education was gutted by Covid closures — cancelled lectures, substandard Zoom teaching, locked libraries and labs. "

Wondering when US students will do the same.

https://open.substack.com/pub/restorechildhood/p/breaking-uk-students-win-21-million

RunningLogic's avatar

Ooh thank you for sharing! I hope this happens in the US too (if I recall, there has been at least one similar case here but it’s not been a widespread thing despite many students from all over the country being affected).

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

My precious 14 year old grandson looked at me with tears in his eyes when I asked why he was having to take two math classes and two science classes in 9th grade.... "Covidmania took our education and destroyed learning! (Private school K-8th grade). Their idea of schooling during covid closures.... it was minimal teaching, mostly figure it out yourself and no followup! I can not believe they did this to us or that every parent let it happen!"

RunningLogic's avatar

I tried to fight it but was pretty much alone. So I pulled my kid out of private school and started homeschooling. We’re still dealing with the fallout of what he didn’t learn in that crucial year though, especially as regards reading and writing 😕

And my son harbors similar resentment towards the schools and government for what they did to him and his peers.

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I had hoped my daughter would homeschool but she's the bread winner and believes the new school will be ok. He saw right away that a large majority of the students are very intelligent. 90 students to each grade level. His grandmother taught Spanish at this school for 25+ years. Three of my siblings and I graduated from there as did two of my daughters and a brother in law. While it is still too woke for me, we're letting him finish 9th grade, then she may let us homeschool him for the remainder of high school if it doesn't work out. He swims and would still be on their swim team if we homeschooled him.

RunningLogic's avatar

It’s certainly tough to make that decision especially when they are older. They’re lucky he could still swim on the team even while homeschooling. Lots of places won’t allow that. I think high school is the hardest because the level is more challenging and things like science with labs can be harder to do at home (though co-school/co-ops can be helpful for this). It sounds like they’ve got a pretty decent situation overall though, at least. We loved our private school but between Covid and the encroaching wokeness, we couldn’t justify it anymore especially with the cost.

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

There are plenty of co opts to be able to do what needs to be done.

RunningLogic's avatar

That’s good! Not every place has easy access to those. Where I am there are quite a few also, so I’m thankful for that.