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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

The movie is getting spicy! Alex Jones “confirmed” RJK is dropping out and endorsing Trump in the next few days. https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1826080095116628191

[*cue sound of liberal brains exploding*]

RFK for Attorney General!

(Also, anyone else been glued to their keyboard going ‘REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH CANNOT WAIT TO HEAR C&C’S TAKE ON THIS’?)

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

RFK would be perfect for Secretary of HHS. Then he can gut the CDC, FDA, and NIH. To add another 3 letter acronym - LFG!

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

The United States Constitution grants no power to the federal government over health issues. If Trump and Kennedy read and understood the Constitution they would act to completely eliminate the entire Health and Human Services Department along with its numerous sub agencies. The individual states and people can manage health issues if they so desire.

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Luc's avatar

In addition according to the Declaration they are ONLY to protect rights "...unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

THAT's IT!

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daverkb's avatar

Nobody understands what the word 'unalienable' means let alone how unalienable Right operate. (Clue: civil rights, civil rights embedded in code, are not Rights of Liberty).

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Luc's avatar

Funny how its “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” but some think murder is a right.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Right! Kill the unborn, kill the elderly, kill the disabled or otherwise abled...

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SusanMc's avatar

Most of our Federal government is unconstitutional as I understand it.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Yes, I think you are completely correct‼️

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Just Comment's avatar

You mean current Administration ?

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Neil Gorsuch's book "Over Ruled" covers this, and explains how very damaging it is from a human perspective.. For nigh 20 years now, I've been "preaching" that the biggest problem with every growing federal government is that it CREATES the incivility and hostility we see now.

The Founders wanted the Federal Government to be weak for many reasons, one of which is the understanding that centralized government prevents people from working out their problems together.

Moving back to Federalism is necessary, but will be painful: especially for those tied to DC.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Exactly.

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Kenpowoman's avatar

This is the Justice Gorsuch who just voted for allowing males to continue participating in women's sports, right?

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Neil Kellen's avatar

He dissented from a ruling that blew a hole in the Biden admins' Title IX expansion.

Do you know why he dissented?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yeah, here in Pennsylvania we had lovely "Rachel" Levine who gave us this best advice during the height of covid, "wash your hands for as long as it takes to sing Happy Birthday."

...while the lovely Levine pulled the mom out of assisted living and stuck her in a hotel.

...while former Gov. Wolf sent covid positive patients back to the nursing homes.

Pennsylvania sucks...and they cheat with elections.

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PEL's avatar

We had massively obese Pritzker giving health advice.

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Tio Nico's avatar

Makes about as much sense as asking a guy who has totalled fourteen cars with his bad driving to teach my 16 year old daughter to drive.

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carily myers's avatar

With his LGBTQ+ "sister".Both filthy rich, by the by.

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Juju's avatar

Cousin. And trans. And I’ve never seen them in the same room together 🤣

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

No kidding!

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Dick Davis's avatar

Amen, PA. gone to the lo

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Individual states now manage abortion. Let them manage it ALL—- and I say this after reading reams of stories of parents who DON’T want their kids vaccine injured but live in Commiefornia, so…

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Oh man. That would mean my home state of California would make me get a hysterectomy, as a 55 yearold man. Thanks bro.

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Truth 101's avatar

And your dude hysterectomy would be paid for by the state as well. 🤣😜

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

No, it means the state can not pay for abortions. No government has any right to tell you what to do with your own body.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...except for the Biden regime which forced people to get the covid DeathVax or lose their jobs.

...except for the Biden regime and Raytheon water boy SecDef Austin who forced the military to get the covid DeathVax or be kicked out of the military with a less than honorable discharge.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Yeah, they shouldn't,

but government attracts those who seek to control others.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Correct. Too many people blindly believe Trump (and/or Kennedy) will come in in January 2025 (if we get past November) and wipe out all the governmental agencies and fire everyone. It isn't going to happen. Too many Q believers (socialist psyop) and X22 believers. People, those two things were a socialist psyop and you fell for it. It was easy to do. I did for a few weeks until I realized nothing made sense and date markers kept being moved. One way to know something is fake? The dates keep being moved. Now get up, wipe yourself off and come to reality.

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Juju's avatar

Thanks for this link!!! I understand now! ❤️

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

wow. I am hopeful Trump will authorize a second Schedule F and drain the damn swamp.

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Paige Green's avatar

Those two have just enough coincidences for people to keep reading/listening.

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Emumundo's avatar

Still waiting for “ the plan”.

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Jolene's avatar

This sounds beautiful!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, exactly!!

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Exactly. The rights not specifically enumerated as federal are reserved to the states.

The US military should honor their oaths to the Constitution.

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Granny Annie's avatar

Yes! This!

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shayne's avatar

YES!!!!!!!!!

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Sal_Peenx's avatar

I think more "agencies" fall into that category. Let's try DOING WITHOUT for a few decades. Could we really do worse than the lying LIARS poisoning We The People with UNsafe INeffective emergency use authorize inoculations or FBI and Secret Service not knowing how to protect a candidate for the highest office in the land????? I'm ready to bag the bureaucrats and live dangerously! Freedom and the US Constitution!

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

Jack Bergeron: nice handle!

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

People need to stand up for their God given rights, for what they believe in. The signers of the Declaration of Independence were not afraid to place their signatures (their real names) pledging their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to each other with full knowledge if the fight for independence failed, they would all be hung.

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Solzhenitsyn’s Ghost's avatar

This is precisely the only playbook that makes sense. Trump likely cannot win without RFK, given Democrat vote harvesting.

RFK must do a "deal" with Trump: RFK has absolute authority over CDC, NIH, FDA public health policy, and significant influence over agriculture policy. In exchange for that, he aggressively endorses Trump, for the only path to victory for Trump is a 5% swing in the vote.

Potential salvation is at hand, but will they take it? Will they embrace history? It is certainly a test to see if their rhetoric has any basis in Realpolitik, or whether it's simply hot air and hopium.

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Michael Framson's avatar

"Trump likely cannot win....." making stupid remarks that he is more beautiful than Kamala. Trump stated he's "entitled" to be mean to Kamala because she has been so rotten to him.

NO Donald Trump you need to be Presidential and put your country's needs over your own.

Put on your big boy trousers; focus on the abundant policy issues which Kackles has given you on a silver plate. That's what will give you the undeclared voters which you will need to win.

Get your messaging together or you will surely lose and that will be on you. End of story.

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SusanMc's avatar

I did hear 2 young black women being interviewed on the street saying things like Kamala trying to get black votes claiming she’s black; not so fast. In recent past she was Indian. They took offense to her pandering. Said blacks made strides under Trump. That Harris has never done anything positive for blacks, etc. They were Trump all the was as was a guy who leaned in while passing by & loudly said, “Trump!”

So there ya go.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Kamala did keep black men in prison pass their release date so California could use them as slave labor.

So...there's that...

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Tio Nico's avatar

She is also well known for having "serviced" a black man over a considerable period or time. So there is that........ but that does not make HER black any more than it makes jer a male.

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Michael Framson's avatar

That is encouraging. It will come down to likely voters in the swing states and that is very unclear, at least to me, where the effort is being made to those low information voters. Trump will need to make inflation, poor economy, unsecured borders is a Harris, Biden Walz creation and how the Trump administration plans to reverse the horrible policies that created this mess.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Pennsylvania will cheat.

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Robin Greer's avatar

My sister heard a similar conversation with 2 black men in a restaurant yesterday. And I saw a comment on X from a guy in PA that said in his area all he is seeing are Trump signs and he was questioning the polls showing Kamala ahead in PA.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Elon just finished a straw poll - 75% for Trump. Approximately 6 million had responded when I last looked.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Also saw an on-the-street interview reel that included several low information voters, one a not so young black woman who spoke about the Republican party at the time of the nation's founding. 😦One's subculture or skin color has little to do with knowing history, not by the time one is middle aged anyhow. The perception of the brainwashed, a different but related issue, is impenetrable until some defining moment when the blinders fall off. Are there 81 million 🙄 defining moments to go around?

Don't mean to be a wet blanket. I'm starting to think that if the dems are selected for the WH it might actually be a good thing; enough people might have a defining moment in short order, the tipping point for things to change? American Revolution 2.0? ...Just my imagination (once again), runnin' away with me... 😏

What we see is a play, all theater. It's... all... theater. Repeat, repeat, repeat. When enough blinders fall off to that reality it's the beginning of the end of what the sleeping People have allowed to be perpetrated on the intention of a new nation, the first of its kind ever in recorded history. (PS - Nor were the founders saints; intelligent and inspired, but plenty of politics, power plays, parrying and a dose of prevarication in numerous directions, toward the new citizenry, the Crown, the French, Dutch, Spanish and the natives. ....Less than 100 years later came the first coup... Oh, but all that is for some other thread, some other time...)

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Butterfly2510's avatar

As long as Dominion is around, Trump and America looses. End of story. Change my mind.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Only you can change your mind. I can only suggest an opportunity that might end the story differently. Election Integrity Network - Who's Counting with Cleta Mitchell (whoscounting.us)

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

*loses, not "looses."

My Moscow Mule just hit bottom - guess it's time for another!

Maybe I should postpone reading C&C until after the sun's over the yardarm.

Bottoms up!

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Michael Framson's avatar

Where loosing is really winning. Copper Mug or High Ball glass? America - History spinning on the turntable? Need additional information.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly!

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daverkb's avatar

I'd take Mr. P up on his offer if DeWife would go for it. There's a nice reformed church in Saint Pete's. We are living a No Exit play. Even the 'good' options are bad.

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SadieJay's avatar

After reading what Putin has said in many speeches, I told Hubs we should move there. Or Hungary. I even told Putin, over all the listening devices placed secretly in my home, that we would be willing to relocate. He must have heard me.

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Bluebird's avatar

Edgar Cayce predicted "In Russia there comes the hope of the world....freedom, freedom that each man will live for his fellow man..." https://content.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/out-of-russia-will-come-hope/

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

St. Petersburg is beautiful.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

*lose, not "loose." Loose rhymes with "goose"; lose rhymes with "booze" which is what I'm gonna need if I have to keep reading "loose."

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Michael Framson's avatar

Fred, I think you've corrected me twice on the same infraction. Third times a...............vodka tonic.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Ok, retired to my private home bar. New icy fresh Moscow Mule in hand, with America - History spinning on the turntable.

This lose-loose thing is actually working out.

Unfortunately it's only 4:22 pm here. Lol

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I've got vodka, I've got tonic.

Bottoms up!

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TiredCitizen's avatar

One other thing - tell the truth of what happened regarding COVID and Fauci, Birks and the other people who lied to us.

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Michael Framson's avatar

"Tell the truth"--what a novel idea.

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Chris's avatar

Being a boring and dull policy wonk is the way to go!

FYI - most of the electorate do not belong to your Puritanical conception of politics. You win by getting attention and getting people revved up enough to vote. And in the face of Democrat cheating, that might not be enough.

But being a humorless wonk will only work for the few Nation Review readers still around.

On second thought - why would you be reading coffeeandcovid if you think humor/sarcasm/satire isn't important in politics?

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WP William's avatar

Imagine Trump Rally booming audio: "Just Like Joe Biden, Everything Kamal'ya Harris touches turns to SHIT, Everything. She's a trainwreck for this country.. what she'll do to the Black American Community over the next 4 years will be a disaster. Tim Walz is even worse. These two don't want Black Americans to succeed, they want them to accept a position of failure and then blame Capitalism, Whites, Asians, cops, whatever as a political lollypop to keep Democrats in charge of them."

Trump needs to start talking it up like this.

Also: "Cackling Kamel'ya and Geriatric Joe's Foreign Policy amounts to a botched hack-job of interference, abandonment, neglect, and incitement.

This has caused chaos, leading to wars, revolts, economic ruin, widespread suffering and also 4 years of mass migration to our shores and Open Southern Border as a result. KowMala and Genocide Joe's negligent and intentional recklessness, open borders, and collusion with Cartels starting on Day One of THEIR Administration has also made for our Democrat-Run Sanctuary States and Cities to be nearly over-run and turned into crime-ridden crap holes where innocent migrants are trafficked and abused and our precious American citizens, especially Blacks and other minorities are kicked to the curb, pushed to the back of the line, and asked to pay for it all."

"We're hoping America can survive until I can once again be properly and Peacefully inaugurated in January so that we can start fixing this horrible mess they've created for us. The USA and certainly the world can not afford another 4 years of Harris and Biden. Thank you, I Love you all (you know I do), God Bless you and God Bless The United States of America!"

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WP William's avatar

Tying Harris to Biden's failures, inadequacy, and decline at the hip

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Michael Framson's avatar

Its not an either/or; what works best is a blend. Trump is squandering the advantage he has on policy and making unforced errors which will loose the election, just as it does in sports.

I agree, that in the face of the likely cheating, Trump must put the country's needs first and foremost by expand his voting base. He has yet to demonstrate that ability and that puts us in peril.

Coffee and Covid will not provide as much humor under a Kackles administration and the diktats which she and her ilk will bring.

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cltwilson1's avatar

Free speech will be shut down if she wins, and our morning ritual here will change (I hate to say end!) but it's a real possibility.

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daverkb's avatar

Michael, it looks that way to me too. In fact, I keep receiving the impression that Trump is running the campaign more like a reality program than a serious campaign. If so, and if Trump is doing this on purpose, then it is because Trump has a very low opinion of the American electorate's intelligence and information levels ... which is probably a safe assumption.

And so, the state of the nation on all accounts if pretty dismal, by my reckoning.

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Duckduffer's avatar

"making stupid remarks that he is more beautiful than Kamala."

A joke...a funny joke at that.

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Irunthis1's avatar

Let’s not allow this situation to occur until AFTER the DNC finally (and illegally) selects their candidate. I’m putting out odds of what will happen to ole Kammy when next week she starts tanking in the polls behind a trump kennedy pairing. My bet—CIA damage control. Not sure who they will pick to go gunning for but all 3 should be watching their six.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Big Mike (and I'm not ruling out Old Hill for VP)

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Winston Smith Jr's avatar

The RFK Jr voter will not automatically jump on the Trump train. Many of these voters were bailing on Biden, bit now the calculus has changed. The RFK Jr voters will be split three ways: Kommiela, Trump, or not vote at all. RFK Jr will need to throw his full weight into endorcing Trump to pull as many of his followers over to Trump as possible. It's not a done deal.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Winston, you make a strong case for how it will play out. It will come down to Kennedy putting everything on the line for his supporters. Kennedy knows that there may not be a 2028 election, or something much worse, if Trump does not win.

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Solzhenitsyn’s Ghost's avatar

Well, by God we got our answer. They are both in earnest! LFG indeed! A great day. Let us pray Trump/RFKjr comes to fruition against evil forces.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

RFK will be a disaster once inside the tent. He is a big govt democrat. He’s not a MAGA guy at all. He’s an opportunist. Don’t trust him one bit.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Hmm I understand your skepticism, I am not sure I trust him either but he might be the right person to gut the FDA, CDC etc.

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Irunthis1's avatar

I agree he has been gunning for them and calling out their bullshit for decades.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

No one in government can gut any governmental agency.

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Kittykat's avatar

Nah I think health of Americans is a priority for him. This is not the case for anyone else in HHS leadership who are there simply to facilitate corporate capture. RFK has long identified this issue and the damage it has caused. One cannot keep up a lie over decades. I believe his concerns are is honestly held.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I am eternally grateful to him for exposing Fauci in his book, "The Real Anthony Fauci."

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Solzhenitsyn’s Ghost's avatar

He is an inveterate lefty. But you are grossly under estimating his expertise and commitment to ending the health insanity ruling in this country. Trump should give him a narrow but powerful role in vaccine and health policy only. And much of that policy ought to be firing and dismantling and making illegal unconstitutional edicts that have been put in place. Which is exactly what RFK talks about. Ending corporate capture and political corruption in the health, Pharma and food industries.

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Aloha50's avatar

I'm far to the right of Trump. I don't trust him at all: 'More legal immigration!' (for example). I'm fully aware he'll fully disappoint me. That said, what am I going to do? Got to vote for him and hope for the best. With RFK you're in the same position.

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AngelaK's avatar

What is wrong with legal immigration?

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Fla Mom's avatar

Not to speak for Aloha50, but I'm guessing his/her reply would be something like, Trump said in a recent speech that we need a lot more immigrants ("We need people."). There's nothing inherently wrong with legal immigration, IF it's reasonably limited in numbers, with sufficient time for and encouragement of assimilation, is directed at people who love our original form of government and want to preserve it, and isn't added on top of tens of millions of illegal immigrants who generally don't fit the above description. As we did about 100 years ago, we need to pause on trying to get as many immigrants as we can, and instead focus on getting rid of those here illegally,

assimilating those already here legally, equipping Americans to take the jobs that we supposedly need more immigrants for, and encouraging Americans to have babies.

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AngelaK's avatar

Sounds good. 👍

He could just be reacting to the 'Trump is against immigrants' narrative I still see and hear Democrats spewing.

Remember, this is politics!

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Yes! Don’t need him at AG, plenty of quality people for that job.

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Alan Davis's avatar

Like Paxton from TX?

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Like Sidney Powell.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Boy, wouldn't that be giving the deep state the middle finger. I already know who her first firings would be (if they are still with that corrupt agency)

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Susan G's avatar

Name 3. And not Paxton or Sidney Powell.

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Paul Kirwin's avatar

Hey Yuri. I’m not sure what LFG is but you reminded me of LSMFT commercials from my childhood.

Also the chant ‘Kennedy Kennedy is our man, Nixon belongs in the garbage can!’

How old are you?

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John Bugni's avatar

Paul, I remember it well. Lucky Stike Means Fine Tobacco. Not much later I became smart aleck adolescent with hormones kicking in and it became "Lose Stap Means Floppy Tit. Juvenile humor.😆

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Let’s effing go.

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CHop's avatar

Yes and Paxton or Bailey for AG

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Or Sidney Powell.

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carily myers's avatar

Kash Patel

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Yes and yes! And several Amen's! There has to be some other qualified conservative legal mind for AG.

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Garry Blankenship's avatar

Agree whole heartedly. My Dream team was DeSantis / Pres., V.P. ?, Joseph Lapado Surgeon General, RFK, Jr. head of the HHS and Trump as the Director of Homeland Security. I would like to think there is space for RFK, Jr. in a Trump administration.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

RFK Jr recently ADMITTED he approached BOTH campaigns, first Kamala's and then Trump's, offering to drop out of the presidential race and support one or the other in exchange for a position in their administration. Note that it didn't matter to RFK Jr whose administration as long as he got his high profile position.

After neither took him up on the quid pro quo, he had squandered his political capital.

The more time RFK Jr allows to pass, the less his endorsement will matter. If he stays in the race now, after his loss of popular support (down from a purported high of 14% to 8%), indecision, and fruitless bargaining for power, he will have sealed his reputation as a power-hungry spoiler. His belated support for Trump will be merely a desperate grasp for relevance.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Kathleen it was reported that he approached both camps, but I did not see hard proof. I did not dig deep. By any chance do you have a good source?

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Quoting NY Post August 14, 2024:

(See link below.)

"Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. attempted to arrange a meeting with Vice President Kamala Harris last week in which he would offer to drop out of the 2024 race and endorse her in exchange for a spot in her administration — potentially a cabinet-level position."

https://nypost.com/2024/08/14/us-news/rfk-jr-sought-meeting-with-kamala-harris-to-discuss-cabinet-job-in-exchange-for-endorsement/

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Michael Framson's avatar

It's hard (although not impossible) for me to imagine Kennedy approaching her campaign. The D's have been ruthless to Kennedy or anyone who thinks like Kennedy. Kennedy knows the media and the D's are one in the same and I just can't see him making a deal with the Devil.

I know this is not the same, but there is this at the bottom of the article.

"Kennedy told the Washington Post that he has not had any contact with the Democratic Party since launching his campaign other than through litigation.

“The only contact I have with the DNC is them suing me through intermediaries,” he said."

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

I appreciate your reasoning, Michael. For all practical purposes, I'd say that RFK Jr made these overtures to the respective opposing campaigns through a trusted deputy who spoke with a trusted deputy of each of the other campaigns. This preserves his plausible deniability, i.e.. “I” - personally - did not speak to so and so…

Relatedly, I believe that he'd be happy no matter who he could persuade to give him a high profile cabinet position. After all, it's not unusual for bitter political enemies to ‘bury the hatchet’ for their mutual benefit.

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Juju's avatar

That’s a heck of a lot different than “Kennedy admitted to”

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

The NY Post quotes RFK Jr ADMITTING to contacting the Harris campaign to exchange his endorsement for a cabinet post. Google it if you don’t believe it.

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Juju's avatar

He did not “admit” to anything like this and there’s no proof of that. (I’m a Trump supporter so not defending because of being on RFK’s side.) You will need to cite your source because I cannot find anything like that anywhere. What mainstream media reports is rarely reliable or factual these days. That would be no different than saying that Kamala’s campaign said so and they have every reason to lie.

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

Dr. Kory would be better, without the massive ego.

He could include in his staff, Doctors Ardis, Cole, McCullough, and people like Hirsch, Kingston, Tenpenny...

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Danielle's avatar

Whilst I agree with the premise that at least these people are principled and honest, I don’t believe that they are best removed from actual practical medicine. I think that these people truly need to be where they can pass on their true skills and attitudes to doctors in training.

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

McCullough is retired, now shilling, unfortunately, for the very smelly "Wellness Company". I think Kory may have had his license revoked...Hirsch and Kingston don't practice medicine and I think Tenpenny is retired.

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Juju's avatar

Kory didn’t lose his license. He lost his AMIB certification, which is a corrupt meaningless certification as far as qualifications go and politically necessary for most hospitals to allow you to practice within their walls. They pander to the AMIB along with all the other captured medical institutions. But they won’t remove his license because that actually has to prove malpractice or something to lose it. A lot harder in these circumstances. As you demonstrate most people don’t know these things so they can use the politics of the AMIB in the media to make it look like Kory is corrupt even though it’s them that are corrupt.

A lot of the doctors hurt by Covid who had the courage to stand up but aren’t practicing at the moment may want to in the future, so just because they aren’t now doesn’t mean they never will.

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OnTheJump's avatar

LET'S GO !

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Curious Jane's avatar

Why is there a Secretary of HHS, though?!

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Cyn's avatar

Abolish them!

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¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

...and THEN, dissolve his own agency, and move on to the next one to be scuttled.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

The FDA, as it was run 30 years ago was respectable. And I think we need that FDA, not the FDA we now have.

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Valerie's avatar

100%. I’m also kind of excited about the idea of Elon Musk taking a position focused on eliminating government waste. Boy, if he thinks he’s hated by the establishment now, just wait.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Yeah, I would love another technocrat who loves transhumanism near the WH.....

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Valerie's avatar

The easy thing to do is denigrate everyone and suspect their motives. I prefer to go by what Musk has done. He fired 80% of the staff at Twitter and it’s a better product now. He supported real free speech at great personal risk to himself. Does he have downsides? Sure, but every single person does. No one is going to believe exactly as I do, heck half the time I don’t even agree with myself from day to day. Does that mean he can’t provide value in this case? No, it doesn’t.

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Johnny-O's avatar

There isn't real free speech on twitter. He hired known censorship goons for his visibility filtering team. It is far better than it was but to pretend it is this platform of unencumbered free speech is just plain false.

Ulterior motive - to gather as much data on us as possible for his own economic ends. That seems much more realistic than some hero on a white horse that many want to see him as.

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SusanMc's avatar

Time will tell. In the meantime Trust but Verify (Ronald Reagan)

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Controlled opposition is still opposition. And, as Os Guinness says, "contrast is the mother of clarity"

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daverkb's avatar

Thank you Johnny-O!

Twitter is mere 'trend reversal' within the same old play script of illusion. And while what X is doing may be an 'improvement' over jackboot repression, it is still speech made captive to yet one more Super Narrative counter to Woke and intend upon replacing Woke . (And that replacement 'something else' is not the Rights of Liberty ... old American.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Exactly. He only recently allowed Trump back his Twitter page while allowing terrorists to have theirs all along. Given comments to you, now we see how nearly everyone will bow down to the final Anti-Christ and take that mark as ordered.

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Mark St's avatar

Trump only recently decided to go back on Twitter. The door was open from the day Elon finalized the deal for ownership.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Trump had an agreement with Truth not to post on Twitter, but appears to have received dispensation to do so for the campaign, at least.

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rolandttg's avatar

80 % sounds like a good starting haircut number on the Federal Government. Eliminating entire agencies will allow functioning agencies like Social Security to remain more or less intact.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

isn't ever going to happen. Need to read up on how our government works and what the President can and cannot do. Funding could have been cut from those agencies in the budget. Have the uni-party done that EVER? Nope.

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rolandttg's avatar

Didn't say it was. Just love what Musk did to Twitter and proved deadwood was the order of the day there, so we Know it's at least that bad in most federal agencies. We can dream, right?

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daverkb's avatar

It's a dilemma ... and maybe an impossible Magician's Trick. And that is, how does one reconcile the illusion of 'free speech' with comes with 'improvements' with actual 'free speech' unalienable?

(Nobody in the country seems to know how constitutional rights actually work. Such rights are always confused with civil rights. And nobody seems to notice.)

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Fla Mom's avatar

Johnny-O sings a one-note song. Never a positive word or outlook; all pessimism and criticism, which he claims to think somehow helps everyone else. I base this opinion on a fairly extended conversation with him (for a comment section) in the comments on a different C&C post.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

"Denigrate everyone?" Because we offer facts? Might want to stroll over to Patrick Wood's Technocracy website and substack to read those facts. Just astounds me still that someone can come out with facts about a popular person (who knows exactly what he needs to say to get people to fall at his feet) and get chastized for it.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Thank you Johnny-O! Glad someone else knows the facts. Most have no idea (nor do they seem to care) who Musk really is.

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daverkb's avatar

Musk IS a part of the establishment which is in a factional civil war. It's one faction against the other faction. And in this struggle, it is only incidentally about us.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Stop worshipping Elon Musk. Folks, he is portraying to you and saying the right things to get you to follow him (don't forget how almost everyone will fall at the feet of the final Anti-Christ). He is a part of those wanting a new world order and believes in transhumanism. Most have no idea what Musk believes in because they fall to easily for the pretty PR package.

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AngelaK's avatar

I don't think anyone 'worships' him. Let's not resort to that Democrat tactic and lingo. (ie: " You Trump worshippers").

I think that most are just happy to hear one billionaire's voice gutsy enough to go against the ideologies of the other billionaires, because, let's face it, we have become more of an Oligarchy than anything else. Their voice, with the money behind it, dictates so much on the populous.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Might want to read through comments here and other places. I don’t use that word easily. It isn't a "democrat tactic and lingo." You will see one day what is meant by it. He is popular because he knows what needs to be said for the right to fall down at his feet. Sorry, but that is 100% fact.

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AngelaK's avatar

I do not believe that. I never believed everything he said! I am not naive and I don't think that others are either.

Yes, he says what needs to be said to influence people. because THAT is politics! Lol.

RFKJR has not resorted to the usual political type of action, and you see how well he is doing.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I can admire him for doing what Valerie said she admires him for - cutting 80% of Twitter's staff and ending up with a better product. That's hardly "worship," and claiming that it is is ridiculous hyperbole. My guess is that you don't worship God, or you might have chosen a different descriptor. Some of you can take your un-Christian black pills to whatever dark hole of despair you like to live in. I will be joyful in the Christian sense, but also pray continually and continue to take action in the world.

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Robert's avatar

Many conservatives are Christians and move past the headlines, using in-depth research, critical thinking skills, and prayer to discern truth and truth tellers.

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them." - Ephesians 5:11 (NIV)

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Now that’s a good idea. RFK. Never

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carily myers's avatar

ME TOO! Perfect for "Downsizing the Fed Gov" commitee

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Beckadee's avatar

I believe that DOGE he tweeted was more a push for his crypto whatever. He's clever like that.

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Jpeach's avatar

A Trump / RFK Jr. alliance is a winner. Trump can address the monumental catastrophe of Operation Warp Speed by appointing RFK Jr. to a cabinet position, so he can gut the Facist Government Healthcare/Big Pharma complex.

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Jolene's avatar

Has Trump admitted Warp Speed was a mistake yet? If so, I missed it.

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CeeMcG's avatar

By the same token, the Biden administration needs to be held accountable for mandating the vaccines for millions. The shots are bad, but forcing people to take them to continue working or continue going to school (San Diego Unified School District mandated them for high school kids) is equally harmful, if not worse. When are we going to see Fauci, Birx, Collins, et al behind bars?

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Jolene's avatar

100%. I don’t expect to see justice in my lifetime but I am certain they will be judged.

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AngelaK's avatar

It was EVIL.

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Carrie's avatar

Pfizer lied. Had they told the truth, it wouldn't have been approved. Also, that jab was in existence before the pandemic.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I'm sorry, but my wife and I were able to easily figure out that mRNA tech was not safe long before the bioweapon shots came out. If someone in Trump's position couldn't figure it out, it's either the biggest case of ineptitude ever, or complicity.

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Juju's avatar

That’s kind of unfair and arrogant. For understandable reasons, I, without a job, still wasn’t in a position to hear what I needed to hear to run in the opposite direction. Yet anyone reading the surface of my life would say I had no excuse if I had all that extra time on my hands. They wouldn’t know of what was going on in my life to prevent me having any time to research, or even hear any side of the issues. I wish I would have. I got the first round in 2021 and then a couple months later was able to hear what I needed to to make a more informed decision, and I became anti-vax. And I’ve been running away from them ever since. Just because I didn’t figure it out as fast as you did doesn’t mean I was inept or complicit. And yeah, a man in the position of a president in charge of world affairs and running a country has a hell of a lot more on his plate every day than someone like little ol’ unemployed me does. He has to rely on his administration and the experts around him like many of us had to. I do believe he eventually saw what people like me did about the same time I did, and I don’t believe he would have done anything to interfere with our freedom to refuse. Or created the environment the Biden administration did. Urging people to get the vaccine is NOT the same thing as villainizing the unvaccinated or mandating it. It’s simply a position taken based on what he knew at the time. I think he is judged too harshly for events that happened after he was out of power, and people use his actions before that as a way to crystal ball him. Very unfair. You can’t know what he would have done once he became aware. Everything is speculation at this point.

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Juju and Jeff C ... Thank you for your comments. I agree with both of your assessments. We've got to remember Congress was after Trump the whole 4 years! I'm not saying he should not have known something and I think he will eventually face that the warped speech shots weren't what he thought they were! These vaccines are already years before Trump even came into presidency!

And before I get any negative responses, please realize I am one that is suffering physically, on a minute by minute basis and being gaslighted by many doctors! My body is getting weaker cuz of my reaction to these poison shots! That I took not wanting them but wanting to see my granddaughter! And there's a lot of people in my situation that knew it was bad. But in our flesh we wanted our own way to see our grandchildren! My bad. I'm really learning to depend on God and his strength and his Mercy! If it were not for God, I would not have been here today. I've already been through my Trump stage. It's his fault. He should have known etc stage. But look what he's been under! If there's any doubt they're still denying that he was almost assassinated, so, give Trump a little break, kind of what would Jesus do with Trump? I don't know. I'm not God. Praise God!

But between Trump's juvenile language when he deals with other people and all the LIES being spread from the leftist.... He won't have a chance if Trump's supporters, do not rally behind him! He is so not our SAVIOR BUT HE IS BETTER THAN CACKLES AND TAMPON TIM!

I found much comfort in the scriptures

"16 When I tried to understand all this,I found it too hard for me —17 until I went into the sanctuaries of God....25Whom do I have in heaven but you?

And with you, I lack nothing on earth.

26 My mind and body may fail; but God is the Rock for my mind and my portion forever.......28 But for me, the nearness of God is my good; I have made Adonai Elohim my refuge,so that I can tell of all Your works."

Psalms72:16,17,26,28

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shayne's avatar

And what many can't extrapolate, is that had Trump fired, Fauci, et al, in those early days, he would've been crucified by the media and deep state, and run out of DC like a rat carrying fleas carrying the black plague.

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daverkb's avatar

I agree with Johnny-O in principle. And yet, it has taken me a long time to understand what you are saying. Even to understand how people are engineered victims in a delusional world in all respects.

And yet, I still cannot fathom why people believe the things they do, it all not making a lick of sense. I'll given an example.

The USD 'unit of account' is fictional fantasy money which does not in reality exist ... and is enslavement fake money. Some people, the same who know that the USD is fake have no problem 'believing' in crypto currencies (like Bitcoin) which also is fantasy money and disappears the minute the power grid is shut off. How does anyone square this with real money mined out of the ground and can be held in one's hand ... and does not vanish the second the power is turned off? And is not enslavement money provided the purity of coin is maintained?

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I would be flabbergasted if Trump didn't know. And again, if he didn't, shame on him. I figured it out. He went out and told millions of people how wonderful it was, and again, an afternoon of research was all it took to discover how abysmal the trac record was of mRNA tech. If I was going to push an experimental medical procedure on millions of people (ostensibly billions) I would have done my homework, and he either didn't or he was complicit. I simply cannot believe he didn't have many credentialed people telling him about the dangers.

When people say "Biden didn't mandate it" it makes me want to say "Are you a slave?" (no offense - I just don't get it) - if it were Biden who rolled out operation warp speed would you give him a pass and say "he didn't know" or "he was lied to?" I doubt it.

And to your last point- He now is aware and still I have not heard him utter one word about the poison. It is imperative we STOP making excuses for people in charge. If they knew - it is criminal. If they didn't - then they shouldn't be trusted to be able to navigate the complexities of such a high office.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

You must have forgotten 4.5 years ago. Johnny-O didn't pick apart your story or anyone else's. He brought up points for those who led us down this globalist plandemic. You took it much to personally. All the beginnings of COVID happened in 2020. THAT is what we want answers for. Moderna had never brought a successful vaccine to market before the jab.

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AngelaK's avatar

👍

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SadieJay's avatar

♥Well said.

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Aloha50's avatar

Sadly most on this blog are incapable of assigning any blame to DT. Kinda cult like

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WP William's avatar

He's supported and lauded and perhaps cultified by thinking Conservatives only to the extent that HIS Enemies are OUR Enemies... He's got balls enough to Continually and Openly call out Fake News and even to go to a Black Fake News live interview forum where he knew he's be crucified as a KKK Supremacist. Who else can do that? DeSantis certainly, but very few have the mettle to not knuckle under and acquiesce to Marxist Media. His flaws are obvious, his limitations concerning, but do a pro-con chart with anyone else of position and let's see what other option we have.

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AngelaK's avatar

I don't agree. What I see is that there is absolutely nothing constructive to negative discussions right now.

The country is literally at the crossroads of survival. It might get better. or atleast, not worse, with DJT, or we will go into such a dark, evil, dystopian reality, that we will be like the Soviet Union was or China is. It will not be the same country.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

Not cult like. Just fair mainded. We know that the press was after him and if he continued to push HCQ or IVERMECTIN they’d have strung him up. Blame Pence who was I. Charge and didn’t present facts just let Fauci kill people

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Carrie's avatar

Maybe you should be president?!

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Johnny-O's avatar

I'm not a sociopath.

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John Bugni's avatar

I wish I was as smart as you, Johnny-O.

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Jolene's avatar

Why would anyone trust a company that paid the largest criminal fine in US history? He ought to have known better.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner!

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Jolene's avatar

😁 May you flourish, Johnny-O.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Okay, Pfizer lied. That is one small piece as to what happened in 2020. Jolene's question is right on point. Trump - tell the truth. What happened starting with ALL the players including the Moderna CEO you appointed to lead the task force.

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SusanMc's avatar

Before he was elected evidently

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Jeff C's avatar

Very unlikely it will happen until after the election if ever.

Trump uses systems that have been very successful for him his entire life. One thing he never does is admit he made a mistake and/or apologize. He does this because when faced with bad-faith adversaries, he knows it will be used as a cudgel against him. He knows the response won't be "apology accepted" but it will be portrayed as admission of guilt and weakness. He won't give his enemies that ammunition, and there's an awful lot of justification for not doing so.

I'd like to see him say it to, but Trump just doesn't do it. People view it as stubborn arrogance (and I'm not saying it isn't at least in part) but it's really more of a behavioral system he's developed over decades. And it has certainly worked based on his accomplishments.

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Jolene's avatar

I hear that. But it’s a big problem when he still emphasizes his role as the architect of Warp Speed with all the injuries and deaths from the jabs. He could at least read the room and shut up about it. Suggests to me he doesn’t see it as a problem. And that’s a problem.

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SusanMc's avatar

I don’t hear every speech but haven’t even read where he’s “gone there” lately

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cltwilson1's avatar

The broken record that goes on and on and on...

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John Bugni's avatar

Jolene, I was told one of the reasons he moved so quickly with warp speed is it necessitated an emergency declaration to do it, and forced their hand prematurely and that prevented them from presenting the mRNA VAX as fully tested and putting it permently on the required vax list and we wouldn't have had the opportunity to discover as much of the subtrifuge as we did.

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Jolene's avatar

John, I doubt it’s 4-D chess. Warp Speed allowed the pharmaceutical companies to run their animal and human trials concurrently. It sped up the timeline and turned on a money faucet. Never good.

The most likely explanation is that he made a terrible mistake. And he should say so.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

Disagree

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SusanMc's avatar

Agree!

He’s damned if he does & damned if he doesn’t.

Media would never commend him on course correction but would pound him ad nauseam

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Beckadee's avatar

Truth!

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Freebird's avatar

Astute observation into Trumps modus operandi…

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Jeff C's avatar

Trump understand the friend-enemy distinction, that is you don't treat people acting in bad faith the same way you treat people acting in good faith. You don't apologize to people demanding one so they can use it against you, whereas you do apologize to people that you love that you hurt. I'm sure Trump apologizes to Melania and his kids when he makes a mistake.

Far too many people don't get this and think they are required to treat everyone equally. It's why people allow themselves to be taken on guilt trips by people obviously acting in bad faith (controlling family members in particular). It's a choice. When someone is acting in good faith guilt is a powerful tool of the Holy Spirit to correct one's errant actions (friend). When acting in bad faith, guilt is a manipulative psychological ploy to change one's behavior to their advantage (enemy). This difference is stark and once I saw it I could not unsee it.

Not only does it lead to healthy boundaries, but it's also entirely biblical.

Edit: for a biblical example of this compare how Jesus treated repentant sinners who came to Him versus how He treated the hypocritical Pharisees (the ultimate bad faith actors).

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WP William's avatar

Yes, the political calculus is that the VAXX is old news, he won't gain any voters to even discuss it esp in an apologetic way...this only benefits Harris. He CAN and SHOULD bring up the Mandating of the Vaxx as Harris-Biden OWN all of that 100%

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Aug 21Edited

Exactly! I agree 100%. Besides, obummer apologized enough for multiple generations and it became nauseous.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Thank you for this. Excellent comment. There are a lot of tricks played with words like “equal”and “equity”!

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Aloha50's avatar

He doesn't admit mistakes because he's unregenerate; still not reconciled to his Maker.

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AngelaK's avatar

No, it is because he will be mercilessly destroyed by the media for it. Look at how they have made RFKJR into a nut because of his stand on vaccine injuries and his honesty about his past.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Aloha50, claiming to know another's heart is very dangerous. It's also what Democrats do, about all of us. Please, don't do that.

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John Bugni's avatar

Aloha50, it seems you have accepted how the mainstream media desribes Donald Trump and basing your evaluation of him on that. Do you appreciate what the media and the liberal progressive politicians and government put him through in his campaign for President and then continued for the four years of his Presidency. Do you think you could have done as well? And who are you to say he's unregenerate and is not reconciled to his Maker. I was taught only God knows that. I don't dectect much Christian love in your comment.

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Jeff C's avatar

Aloha50 is a bad faith troll, his comments never add value or advance a thoughtful discussion. He simply drops turds into a conversation hoping to upset people.

Think about people in real life that behave this way towards you, do you want anything to do with them? I certainly don't. What I don't understand is why people treat him as if he is just misguided when his comments are always pretentious and condescending, with never any substantive examples. People who have good faith disagreements don't act like this.

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Juju's avatar

Not yet, but maybe he will find a way. I too want to see him face the realities we all have and talk about it! Possibly his campaign staff is holding him back. They need to cut that subject free and let us hear that he hears us!

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yep, THAT'S the "elephant in the room" needing discussion, no doubt.

No matter WHICH side of the fence you are on regarding the 'va$$ine, it has to be pretty clear that lies have been told, deception the goal.

.....of course, we see THAT more clearly on THIS side of the fence.

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Beckadee's avatar

There's a small percentage of people paying attention. I just spoke to a neighbor about our pets and vaccinations etc and she didn't know what Ivermectin was or that it was given to her dog [Heartguard] for worms. I told her this when I questioned why vets want our pets treated for worms/parasites but we never are. She said she didn't really want to know what was going on and I said fine, just when they try to force you to do something, tell them to take a hike. I used a better word for emphasis, but some here freak out so I'll refrain for now. LOL

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Fla Mom's avatar

I'm not disagreeing with you, Beckadee, but off the top of my head, dogs are more prone to be infested with worms and parasites because they eat feces, always walk barefoot, roll in manure if any is available, drink from puddles and other unsanitary water sources, and possibly eat small game that could be affected, if they're lucky enough to be rural dogs. Heartworm is transmitted by mosquitoes, and dogs are generally more likely to be bitten than humans, who may use repellent or wear long sleeves/pants, and be indoors more (not that humans are susceptible to heartworm).

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SadieJay's avatar

I have heard though one of my many sources that the evil ones were not done with the shots to make them 100% effective killing injections. But when Trump announced OWS, they were forced to stop the extra lethal additions to their lethal shots and roll them out, completely toxic to everyone or not. There are so many lies out there, and who knows. But this information makes sense. But then again, nothing makes sense these days. Question everything.

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John Bugni's avatar

SadieJay, similar to what I heard, but I'm having a hard time explaining it to Johnny-O and Joleen.

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SadieJay's avatar

This is a toxic subject, obviously. ♥

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LW's avatar

Me too…looking and looking

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Jacquijacq's avatar

All he has to do is play the video of the press conference when the press screened at him “you’re not a doctor let Fauci save us”. And he stepped aside. Besides he only got idk from Judas Pence who was in charge. Those traitors need to swing

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John Bugni's avatar

Without warpspeed the leftist progressives would have taken the time to get the mRNA vax fully approved and on the required list without exposing their nefarious plan. He out played them to our benefit.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Riiiiiight

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John Bugni's avatar

Johnny-O, SadieJay just stated something similar.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

You people expecting Trump to admit any kind of guilt in this are crazier than loons. If you don’t think they’re not wanting him to do this after everything they’ve done to him? They will pin every single death, every single problem on him quicker than a flea on a dog. We’d get to see him hang for crimes against humanity and his whole family with him. I think he was naïve and still believed there were people in the government that actually had Americans best interest at heart I think by the time he found out, it was too late. He has always been the visionary and tried to get good people around him who were effective That works most of the time in business not necessarily in politics.

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Jolene's avatar

It’s about integrity. These are devastating harms.

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daverkb's avatar

We will see. I hope so. But I have Lucy pull away the football at the last second too, too many times.

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Luc's avatar

I think it would take more votes from JB if RFK stayed in

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Valerie's avatar

Polls are showing that RFKJ takes more votes from Trump than Harris.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Remember that there are many fake polls.

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Fla Mom's avatar

RFK's own polling shoes the same, or Nicole Shanahan wouldn't have said what she said- that they pull more votes from Trump.

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JT's avatar

JB??? Is he still in the race?

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SusanMc's avatar

????

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

No no no

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AngelaK's avatar

I pray. RFKJR has been treated very poorly by the corrupt and evil Democrat party.

Nicole Shanahan: “They have banned us, shadow-banned us, kept off stages, used lawfare against us, sued us in every possible state, they even planted insiders into our campaign.”

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Robin Greer's avatar

That's how they operate and they've been getting away with it for decades.

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Peter GL's avatar

The only reason he is in as an independent is because the demoncrats refused to allow him to run a DEMOCRATIC primary

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WP William's avatar

Where's weasley Dean Phillips and Marianne, and Cornell demanding a re-do or a re-fund???

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AngelaK's avatar

Lol..💯

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Roger Beal's avatar

Congrats, Nicole! You've earned the same treatment Trump receives.

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AngelaK's avatar

He was critical of what they did to Trump. He is a fair and decent man. A rarity in today's political world.

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Paige Green's avatar

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

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CHop's avatar

It's not only them, but CNN and Fox did not include him in the debates

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Right, and the super corrupt Democrat party denied their own people an opportunity for a primary (Or in my case, in the state of Virginia, where we have an open primary, they denied all VA citizens an opportunity to vote in a Democrat primary.)

Instead, they waged a coup, and overthrew a sitting (albeit not elected and not legitimate) President and installed their own candidate.

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Cindi's avatar

I sure hope he’s not AG; I don’t agree w/ him on anything but the Covid scam. I’d rather see him in CDC, HHS or even FDA to clean any of those up.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I feel the same.

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Luc's avatar

Or as someone else said a temporary position to dismantle ALL of them

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NofloChick's avatar

If he doesn’t work out, Trump can always get rid of him.

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carily myers's avatar

LIKE

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Don’t want him anywhere

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Beckadee's avatar

I'm ok with that too.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Agreed.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Seriously? I was jyst talking to a friend about how powerful he would be on the cabinet.

I think his choice for VP was a disaster.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Shanahan is smart though. Maybe she would have a high profile spot as well. She is a well connected lawyer and probably has an axe to grind after being screwed by the dumbocrats... would be nice to put her to work on the good guy's side.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

But can he and she be trusted? Always keep one eye on them. I don’t trust them fully. Trump has had infiltrators before and we know how that turned out….liars, criminals and backstabbers that has helped lead to all this lawfare…..even four years later the infiltrations have a rippling effect.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I trust none of them. All I can do is hope.....and build what we want locally.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Was gonna say .....WHOM does one trust, at the federal level, these days ?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Exactly. That goes for Orange Man Rad or any of them.

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CStone's avatar

Agreed. RFK jr is a nutter.

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PEL's avatar

Read her X feed. I also think she’s gained some understanding of what Trump went through with the MSM now that she has experienced the same treatment.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah I’m not sure I trust them either.

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Heather's avatar

Maybe she can even be converted if surrounded by enough conservatives

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Exactly. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

AGREE on both counts!

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SusanMc's avatar

Major on the majors. VP is a VP. In my 75+ years I recall few of significance.

We are in a battle for the existence of America. We are in a battle between good & evil.

1 Peter 5:8

NIV

“Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”

He’s also the god of chaos. He stirs up trouble & division.

He’s NOT for us, but against us.

“The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.” John 10:10

If we keep on nit picking & criticizing this & that until we are helping the same ones wanting to defeat DJT.

Republicans/Conservatives are the only ones who circle the wagons & & open fire on each other. To our peril.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Vance is a good retail politician — great talker, great on the news shows, good backstory, and comes across well — but I don’t trust him. His never Trump stance was too strong and too prolonged. And then there is the pro Zionist, venture capital, connections. But at this point, I consider all politicians to be scummy characters.

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CStone's avatar

Not for Attorney General.

Yes for HHS.

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carily myers's avatar

AGREE

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RunningLogic's avatar

Huh, I had read a short time ago that he was considering endorsing Harris in exchange for a cabinet position but that seemed kind of odd to me so I thought it might be fake news.

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Daily Growler's avatar

My understanding is that RFK did NOT ask Harris for a cabinet position. That is fake news. He did ask to talk with her and Trump in hopes of toning down the rhetoric. trump

took the call and they had a civil discussion. Harris refused to even talk with him. The Dems have been worse than despicable in their treatment of RFK and his campaign.

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GenEarly's avatar

"Dems" are NWO & Bolsheviks.

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daverkb's avatar

This is correct. And a Grand Illusion for Evil.

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CeeMcG's avatar

That and the rest of Kennedy’s whole family making that cringe endorsement of Biden. 🤮. What a twisted family!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for clarifying that, I hadn’t taken the time to look into it further after I saw it mentioned.

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MaryAnn's avatar

I suspect KH is not allowed to talk to anyone except waitstaff, and that is iffy.

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Juju's avatar

Yeah I wondered about that too, but then he quickly posted on X that he will not ever endorse her. He doesn’t mud sling much and so it seemed the obvious way to combat a lie is ti just speak his own truth. I wouldn’t put it past the Dems to lie about it either. That’s their m.o. I think they attempted to drive a wedge between the republicans and RFKJr in hopes they would get RFKJrs votes later on after we were done fighting with each other. RFKJrs response was good and I’m thankful no fighting started. I actually saw republicans coming to his defense! It was classy. So now it backfires on the Dems - again. 💃

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I never imagined saying this but I thank GOD for X (liked the name “twitter” better, but…) all the time!

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Gemma Star's avatar

I liked the name “Twitter” much better, too.

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CeeMcG's avatar

Yeah, I still don’t know what to call a post on X. A “tweet” sounded much better! 🤷🏼‍♀️

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SusanMc's avatar

I still use the words “Twitter” & “Tweet.”

I prefer Truth Social but to reach the uniformed & ill informed I post on Twitter too.

Twitter is more non- civil I find tho TS has its bots & haters too. Easy to block🤗

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree, it’s cumbersome in that way.

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Juju's avatar

What would be cool is if in the distant future after we win and our country starts healing, if Musk returned the name to Twitter - after the filth attached to the name falls away. The name separate from the censorship is a cute, fun, community name and why so many want it to remain named as such. But the name is still soiled by the corruption. Maybe X was an interim name to cancel the cancellers. Draw a big red X over them. And Twitter was one of the cancellers. But maybe there can be a way to start to inject the decency of Musk’s vision into that Twitter name in a way that it would begin to represent all of us as opposed to what it did. Only then could it be used fully again.

But alas so many are now used to “X” I’m not sure it would be possible.

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Roger Beal's avatar

In mathematics, "X" is the symbol for the unknown. Consider that as a possible reason for Elon's choice of name for his platform.

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Juju's avatar

If he was meaning to imply that the Twitter platform should be a freedom of speech venue where all voices are heard without censorship and therefore the “narratives” are unknown, then that would be something. Or like “it’s unknown where this will lead to, but all voices will be leading it, not just one”.

Although I’m pretty sure you’re interpreting it more nefariously.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Plus you can’t make X a related verb and noun like you can Twitter/tweeted/ tweets.

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Juju's avatar

Yeah post, posted, posts isn’t as fun. He should have just left it Twitter. I think as time went on it would have started to mean something new.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Musk could change the name to Check ✅

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PEL's avatar

On her X feed Shanahan saidthat rumor was false.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Quoting NY Post August 14, 2024:

(See link below.)

"Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. attempted to arrange a meeting with Vice President Kamala Harris last week in which he would offer to drop out of the 2024 race and endorse her in exchange for a spot in her administration — potentially a cabinet-level position."

https://nypost.com/2024/08/14/us-news/rfk-jr-sought-meeting-with-kamala-harris-to-discuss-cabinet-job-in-exchange-for-endorsement/

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MatthewJohn's avatar

RFK for Attorney General!

No way... but he could teach Trump a thing or two about the "big, beautiful vaccine".

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

RFK for HHS so he can nuke the FDA and CDC.

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Tara O'Brien Pride's avatar

I'm a volunteer for the RFK campaign. This news does not seem at all in character, and I suspect it is fake. RFK has publicly denied similar rumors before.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Time will tell.

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Fla Mom's avatar

RFK, Jr, for HHS or some post within it. He's great on health issues, and I'm glad they see Kamala/Walz as a national threat, but they're pretty leftie on a lot of stuff.

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SusanMc's avatar

HHS! Replace the ugly guy!

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T Kosse's avatar

No thanks. He is a whore trying to sell his name to anyone who will give him a job. We can do without him.

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TC's avatar

No. He’s been fighting corruption for 40 years against the govt and corrupt companies. I think he wants to fight for the country and if he thinks this is the best way to do that then that will be his way forward. He’s one of the most patriotic people I’ve ever encountered which is why I think most people don’t get him. He’s not in it for himself.

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Melissa S's avatar

People need to check out RFK's organization for the corruption and issues that he has been fighting against for years. See: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/ Also check out the "totally unbiased" wikipedia post on the organization which begins with: "Children's Health Defense (CHD) is an American 501(c)(3) nonprofit activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine disinformation, and which has been called one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines."

RFKjr has been at the forefront of fighting against the corruption of the FDA, CDC, NIH, and the despicable Fauci & Collins, and their buddy buddy relationship with Big Pharma.

There are many, many issues that I disagree with RFK on. After all, he is a democrat. But on the issues of vaccines, corruptions and poisoning chemicals in our food and water and environment, he is absolutely a warrior on our side. And his democrat family has essentially disowned him. So that says a lot.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

CHD is how I found out the Singulair (asthma meds) had a FDA black box warning on it for mental health issues.

My doctor didn't tell me.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

“But on the issues of vaccines, corruptions and poisoning chemicals in our food and water and environment, he is absolutely a warrior on our side.”

100% agree!

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Oh, you need to listen to him speak for maybe 12 min. He is wonderful. He has more intellect than the other 3 put together, Cabbage, Cackle AND Trump. I’m voting for Trump — don’t get me wrong, but RFK knows his stuff AND can communicate it to the masses as well as to the oligarchs.

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Johnny-O's avatar

There is a reason Trump won't/wouldn't debate him.....he'd get rolled.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Truth.

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Juju's avatar

Trump didn’t decline outwardly, he just let the venues’ campaign rules handle it all, and the mainstream media was keeping RFKJr out. Trump just stood back and was able to avoid a debate with him because of the MSM’s corrupt criteria.

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Carrie's avatar

I don't trust RFK!

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

You should listen to him speak for 10-12 min on virtually ANY topic. He’s up there with our favorite, attorney, Jeff Childers. He can pick apart and speak wisely in virtually ANY topic, any time. I’m not voting for him, but he has intellect and logic in spades, as well as numerous other terrific qualities. He also has balls of steel. For a Kennedy — of all people— to step onto the political stage (where Biden & Cackle allow it) without endorsed SS protection amazes me. I’m hard to scare but a Kennedy?

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LMWC's avatar

To assassinate RFK Jr is of no consequence to our government’s deep state. Remember they tried to assassinate a former President and still president and messed it up. Trump is the real threat.

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MaryLS's avatar

The fact that the Dems snubbed him counts for something.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Have you read his book on Fauci?

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Johnny-O's avatar

Do you trust Trump, who got rolled over and over or at worse, was complicit? Would you rather have a Bill Barr as AG or Kennedy?

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Carrie's avatar

I sure do.

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Beckadee's avatar

Ignore Johnny -O. He has 1 song on his playlist and replays it non-stop.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I will never understand why people trust politicians. sigh.

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Mark Geiger's avatar

The need to believe that the government cares about them, in their positions.

The alternative is too horrifying for them to contemplate, as it destroys the lies that they have believed their whole lives. Where would that leave them...?

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Fred's avatar

RFKJr denied that on X. Daily Growler posted, “My understanding is that RFK did NOT ask Harris for a cabinet position. That is fake news. He did ask to talk with her and Trump in hopes of toning down the rhetoric. trump

took the call and they had a civil discussion. Harris refused to even talk with him.”

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Freebird's avatar

T Kosse, you nailed it…selling his name. The latest expose book on the Kennedy name tells that sordid tale. I wouldn’t appoint him as dog catcher.

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SusanMc's avatar

How do you know for a fact that book is full of truth?

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Robin Greer's avatar

Saw that as well.

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RunningLogic's avatar

—“Biden lost a million jobs in the couch cushions”

I feel like this is the Biden presidency in a nutshell somehow 😬😆

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yeah. Those couches are LOADED with paraphernalia -

Everything from money ("for Ukraine", lol) to jobs.....and probably hunter's secret stash ( long forgotten in a fog, no doubt)

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Concerned mom's avatar

Perhaps that's where OBIDENS brains are at as well?

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RunningLogic's avatar

😂 Probably!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆

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Valerie's avatar

Another excellent Jeff Childers observation.

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carily myers's avatar

agree

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Cindi's avatar

But w/ TRILLIONS, RL!

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Peter GL's avatar

Real pity is he didn’t lose his job sooner

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

What else did Uncle Joe lose in the couch cushions?

Morals?

Ethics?

Care & Responsibility for the USA?

Brain matter?

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RunningLogic's avatar

All of the above I’d say!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

❤️❤️❤️

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LMWC's avatar

The ELEPHANT is still seated in the room. Nothing adds up in the assassination attempt but just like 6000 votes for Trump in a tiny county in Michigan appearing as 6000 votes for Biden, just as 6 swing states shut down vote counting in the early morning hours, simultaneously, just as vans and suitcases of ballots arrive when vote counting has been shut down, caught on video, and dozens of illegalities occur in November of 2020, we are supposed to not see what we saw. We are supposed to accept it by being bullied into silence. Trump was going to overwhelm algorithms again in 2020, and they had to sloppily overturn that while the lying media and our own justice system abandoned the voters.

This was an assassination attempt that failed, and now sloppily they are trying to cover this up as well. And the lying media is coercive again.

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CH's avatar

We can only pray that Trump takes action against all 3-letter agencies when he wins. My guess is this is exactly what will happen given the recent SC rulings against those agencies. Musk being in charge of "government efficiency" would be a beautiful thing.

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YYR's avatar

This is why the alphabets are fighting Trump 47 like their lives depend on it.

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carily myers's avatar

They'll kill him before that. Butler wasn't the only time they've tried. They will keep trying.

Their "freedom" is on the line.

Hope he has a food/drink tester. Seriously.

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CStone's avatar

It’s like the demonic party is fiddling and singing off-key without knowing the words …….and all the while America burns.

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Alan Davis's avatar

And it appears by all current trends they will do it again this election. Nothing really has changed.

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LMWC's avatar

Yup, as that elephant sits firmly in the room. Faux News does nothing but prime time DNC coverage going scorched earth on the Harris/Walz ticket but leaving the real issues aside.

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carily myers's avatar

There was a hand that turned his head, it wasn't human.

ABC/NBC/CBS were covering their ONLY Trump campaign in 2024. They were to capture the "pink mist" moment, on live TV.

Convince me different.

Seriously.

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FH's avatar

And the root of this entire nearly decade long campaign is covering up the origins and execution of ‘Russia Russia Russia’.

The complexity of that operation involving so many people from so many agencies as well as foreign intelligence (5 eyes countries, with plausible deniability) is literally awesome. Captured in a graphic published by the Epoch Times several years ago.

And that operation was carried out to prevent 45 from uncovering/undoing what 44 did to corrupt the IC and justice system. The 44 administration made great ‘progress’ in their fundamental transformation of the USA.

The most thoroughly researched piece on this (it is long and detailed): https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/09/big-picture-question-big-picture-answer/

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daverkb's avatar

It looks like an assassination attempt. It might have been an assassination attempt. But it appears to have been missing a prime feature of assassination attempts, assassins who know how to shoot. And I have to wonder if a six year old kid with a sling shot could have done better?

Revelations are interesting. But I still can't make a lick of sense out of it.

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FH's avatar

Crooks = Oswald

SS sniper = Jack Ruby

A theory that makes some sense

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daverkb's avatar

Maybe? But I can't latch onto anything except momentarily. The FBI shutting down the crime scene and destroying the evidence, and so on is a big tell. But of what? And why are the local 'law enforcement' horrified at what went on? And if they know something (which they seem to let out to be), why are they all so shut mouthed? Maybe fear of getting whacked?

And if it was a serious attempt, where are the 'serious shooters'?

Yours Truly,

Mystified in Roanoke

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ICI Grief (The Rebel's Hike)'s avatar

But the bullet would have hit him square on if he hadn't turned his head at that exact second.

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daverkb's avatar

That's what they say ... and it's natural to want to latch onto something. But add it all up and what do you have? Empty pockets? More questions and no real answers?

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Peggy B's avatar

I agree that nothing adds up with this assassination attempt including the unbandaged ear of Trump four days post injury with nary a scar or inflammation, the photographer who snapped a photo of the whizzing bullet…the same photographer who snapped the photo of Bush receiving the news of the second plane hitting the towers on 9/11, the shooter appearing in a Blackrock commercial the year before, the memorial to the fatally injured firefighter where they spelled his name wrong, etc. My conclusion? This was a staged event complete with multiple crisis actors behind Trump on the stage. Nobody ran in panic and some were even filming during and after the event. We have been played.

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John Ransley's avatar

Take your meds now Peggy

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FH's avatar

Clearly doesn’t know how well super glue (and its more expensive medical equivalent) works for healing wounds. Carry it in your first aid kit. Source: retired paramedic husband.

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Peggy B's avatar

I’m disappointed, John, that you chose to attack me instead of discussing the points that I raised. I expect better of C&Cers. Let’s not become like our Democrat friends and family members who baffle us because they can’t see what we plainly see. Here is a post from NAB today that perfectly illustrates what I mean.

“This shallowness in conversation is what I notice now too, Cee. It's depressing. We USED to be able to have spirited discussions/disagreements but all walk away still friends and also be able to find things other than politics to talk about. That is no longer the case. For too many people - even in my family (and more sadly a few of my adult children) - politics IS their religion and like most extreme adherents, cannot tolerate any word against it. I just keep praying.”

All of us here at C&c need to constantly question our world view to see if we have perhaps become like our Democrat friends and so very sure of what WE believe is true.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

I agree with your sentiments here Peggy but kindly disagree with your raitionale to reach a conclusion we have "been played."

We ALL need to be both more rational and more tolerant of each other's comments. There but for the grace of G-d, go I.

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BelleTower's avatar

I don’t know. I think Peggy has a point. I will crawl over broken glass to vote Trump but I saw what she saw … weirdness then more weirdness. First of all, there IS NO BLOOD on the fist that was gripping at the ear. I’ve looked and looked. I’m willing to hear the explanation but the only think I could think of which might explain a little of that is maybe he subconsciously wiped his hand in his pants as he was coming back up from the ground? I am an honest person, an insightful person. I see the abhorrent evil of the left and will work every day to defeat it. I also don’t mind asking the question. Maybe someone can help me here?

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PEL's avatar

A man died!

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

For behold, He who forms mountains and creates the wind

And declares to man what are His thoughts,

He who makes dawn into gloom

And treads on the high places of the earth,

Yahweh God of hosts is His name.

— Amos 4:13 LSB

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𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐦𝐲 𝐫𝐨𝐜𝐤 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐲 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬;

𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐠𝐮𝐢𝐝𝐞 𝐦𝐞

𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐞’𝐬 𝐬𝐚𝐤𝐞.

𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐧𝐞𝐭

𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐬𝐞𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐭𝐥𝐲 𝐬𝐞𝐭 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐦𝐞,

𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐦𝐲 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐮𝐠𝐞.

𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈 𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐦𝐲 𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐭;

𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐞𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐝 𝐦𝐞, 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝, 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐭𝐡.

𝐏𝐬𝐚𝐥𝐦 𝟑𝟏:𝟑-𝟓

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Jolene's avatar

May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to you, oh God, my rock and my redeemer. Psalm 19:14

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

That verse has helped me immensely over the years. Spoken words and thoughts -- may they all be pleasing to Him.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Hey how did you make that different font? 🤯🤔🤷🏻‍♀️

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Roger Beal's avatar

Write your comment in a word processor app such as "Word". Change the font as desired. Copy and paste into the comments section in any blog. BOOM.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Very Cool

hmmm did not go bold. . . try again. . .

Very Cool

1st was using Apple "Pages"

2nd try was Word.

both fails

𝖁𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕮𝖔𝖔𝖑

Using the yaytext website. . . Looks like the "trick"!

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

That doesn't work for me.

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ROKM's avatar

There is a site and you can get several different texts. I do that on fb occasionally, and just copied it here. I am surprised it worked. This is the site:

https://yaytext.com/bold-italic/

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I haven’t tried it yet because I always think everything is a Chinese spy app. 😂

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ROKM's avatar

It may be. But so is the phone, the tv, and the computer. I don't do tiktok, but I think they can get to everything. So, I live life. Think about Jeremiah 29:4-7. We are to live in the place he puts us as he told the Israelites who he exiled to Babylon. He said

"This is what the Lord of Armies, the God of Israel, says to all the exiles I deported from Jerusalem to Babylon: 5 “Build houses and live in them. Plant gardens and eat their produce. 6 Find wives for yourselves, and have sons and daughters. Find wives for your sons and give your daughters to men in marriage so that they may bear sons and daughters. Multiply there; do not decrease. 7 Pursue the well-being[b] of the city I have deported you to. Pray to the Lord on its behalf, for when it thrives, you will thrive.”"

So, we have decided that we need to work to strengthen God's ppl and pursue the well-being of the place he has sent us, which is here. The Chinese are not going to get in his way.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

My philosophy as well! I was mostly being silly. 😀

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Gemma Star's avatar

Thank you!

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CeeMcG's avatar

Sweet!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Amen Janice!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Beautiful Scripture post this morning!

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

“And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.”

‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6‬:‭13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/mat.6.13.NKJV

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

💯

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

One. Two. Three. Substack (and C&C in particular) is such a beautiful place to be.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

Clearly the assassination attempt on President Trump was a job from within our own government. The young shooter was a patsy used by an our government. Have they ever even provided proof that the bullet that skimmed President Trump’s ear was actually from the young shooter’s gun? It is a cover-up, not an investigation. 😡

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Juju's avatar

I’m so glad Jeff covered it substantially today. We cannot let it become yesterday’s news and we need to keep it on the front page. Thank you Jeff!

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John Ransley's avatar

Good that Jeff is on it now. Clay Higgins is on this like dog on bone. George Webb substack has ultimate coverage of assination attempt even D**khead cheney involvement. Crooks was not killed by usss. Swat team member from another county blew his head up. Crooks was trained up by DHS reps for a year before the attempt. Webb has receipts. This is gonna be fun

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NAB's avatar

John, do you have a link for George Webb (I did a quick search, but didn't see a hit for a Substack)?

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John Ransley's avatar

Georgewebb.substack.com/archive He`s blocked on most search engines

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NAB's avatar

Thank you!

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Concerned mom's avatar

Thank you! Most interesting!!!

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cltwilson1's avatar

Thanks for the suggestion!

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CHop's avatar

The glorious thing is that it has so many people are now questioning what we are being told...on both sides. So few questioned the numerous shootings, Maui fires, 9/11, etc. And they are now looking at those events as well. When people wake up to their game, they can't run the bullshit anymore. Look how quickly the Nashville shooting went away. Twitter was all over the details that didn't make sense and they had to go quiet.

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PEL's avatar

See Tuckers interview with Geoff Shepard. Everything we were told about Watergate was a lie. Striking similarities of the Trump lawfare to what was done to Nixon.

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John Ransley's avatar

Of course they don`t need to investigate anything because they know what happened. This is gonna be fun as it unravels

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Dr Linda's avatar

I have a friend who watches hours of the DNC. I question his sanity, as well as my choice in friends.

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Heather's avatar

It’s hard to let some go….I find myself pretty lonely if I want to discuss anything real

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Donna in MO's avatar

I was there in 2020. Thankful that I have a new tribe, although I do sometimes miss my old friends. But TDS and covid religion have made them into different people.

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Your life sounds familiar. I was told I needed to watch Rachel Madcow.

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Concerned mom's avatar

THAT Rachel! Another RAVING DEMONIC LUNATIC (sorry, I had to put it nicely)

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SusanMc's avatar

And another perversion of the beautiful biblical name, Rachel.” Like “gay & “rainbow.”

Our wonderful daughter is named Rachel!

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Brian Lombardi's avatar

For those that didn't switch after a party that literally discriminated against an entire planet over vacation mandates....boy those people are LONG gone. If COVID and mandates and an assasination attempt doesn't wake you up, what ever will?

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well I have been a conservative since my 20's and have volunteered for various campaigns and served on local boards and commissions but the vast majority of my friends were either apolitical or democrats for what ever reason!? Cracks started forming in 2015-16 , but I ran for city council (and lost) in 2018 and a lot of my D friends helped. But the line in the sand was drawn with covid as nothing I could say or share could convince them this was not all a sham and then the stolen election was the straw that broke the camel's back,

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CStone's avatar

Welcome home!!

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AJF's avatar

Yep, few & far between as the saying goes! Around here they LOVE the "warrior, smart, tough" black woman who's gonna "destroy" the EVIL ORANGE MAN. I swear they're living in comic book world! For real.😳😫

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

Why isn’t the “Orange Man” considered a man of color?

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CHop's avatar

You win comment of the day!

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Anthony's avatar

Right. Notice which side is obsessed with skin color, lol.

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AJF's avatar

🤔🤣

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RunningLogic's avatar

What’s so hilarious in an ironic way is that Kamala and her party have done more to hurt minorities than anything Trump or any Republican has ever done 😕 These people are so deluded and brainwashed that they can’t see facts.

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AJF's avatar

They want pretty little lies not facts! "Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies" Christie McVie

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alongername's avatar

Many of you are reporting how deluded and brainwashed so many ( the majority ?) people around you are .

I can not disagree . BUT ...... that being the case , where is the "victory" going to come for Trump ?

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CeeMcG's avatar

You have friends here! I’ve lost my best friend of 35 years, a cousin, and my brother to this insanity. They won’t discuss anything of substance anymore and refuse to discuss politics. It’s all “Orange Man Bad” and nothing else. I just exchange pleasantries and that’s about it. And these are all people I consider to be intelligent, but now they are sheep.

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On an island's avatar

Some of the most intelligent are also the most foolish. My husband still wastes time debating them on FB and typically all they have to say to his well-crafted arguments are slurs and name calling.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Fb debates are lessons in futility. Nothing more. Trolls love them.

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Gemma Star's avatar

We’ve all lost friends and family members to the madness.

Most of us have found new tribes. I know I have.

Still, I wonder if the scales are beginning to drop from the eyes of some whom I’ve lost. No way to know at this point.

I actually wonder if my jabbed friends and family members brains have been affected. Two friends who still speak to me have specifically mentioned that their minds are not as sharp as they once were.

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CeeMcG's avatar

I wonder about that also. I have multiple sclerosis so I *KNOW* my brain doesn't work like it used to, but at least I know why. My brother, who normally has a Rainman-like memory and remembers everything, has been starting to forget things. He's coming up on 65 so maybe it's age, but I definitely wonder about the vaccines.

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NAB's avatar

This shallowness in conversation is what I notice now too, Cee. It's depressing. We USED to be able to have spirited discussions/disagreements but all walk away still friends and also be able to find things other than politics to talk about. That is no longer the case. For too many people - even in my family (and more sadly a few of my adult children) - politics IS their religion and like most extreme adherents, cannot tolerate any word against it. I just keep praying.

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CeeMcG's avatar

Shallowness is a good way to put it. My best friend and I used to talk about how our kids were doing, their struggles in school and life, health issues either of us had ... now it's just hollow. No updates on her or her husband or kids, nothing. I know she's going on a trip to the UK in 2 weeks so I asked her where they were staying, what their plans are, etc. In the past she would have given me a full travelogue with hotel links and so forth. Now, it's just, "oh, Scotland and then the upper UK". She also knows my boyfriend and I are going to Europe (Munich, Prague, Vienna, Slovenia) in October and has asked me absolutely nothing about our plans. I have more in-depth conversations with strangers I meet in the grocery store, honestly. :(

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Juju's avatar

😢😔

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Juju's avatar

What’s sad is some people use this as the perfect reason to never talk politics anymore. But that just locks us all in our own echo chambers. No one gets better or wiser. There’s no iron sharpening iron. No one gets new information they need to sharpen their views. It’s so sad that our country failed to teach true, respectful, debating skills in our schools and colleges, and that our governments failed to model what it should look like. When we can’t discuss what we disagree on, we stay divided and ignorant. That’s exactly where the government wanted us to be. It took them 40 years to force us here.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

So many of us experience the same pain.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I sympathize with you. Left many old ‘friends’ behind after the covid lunacy. But, thanks be to God, my new Church provided me with devout and awake (not woke) friends.

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Peter GL's avatar

I turned it on yesterday. After two minutes I could feel my pressure rising, I was yelling at the TV, when my wife suggested we turn it off. I am amazed at Jeff’s ability to stay sane after watching the baloney, and thankful that he does so I won't have to

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Susan L.'s avatar

I watched. The creepiness factor got to be too much for me after about 30 min. The majority of the crowd really looked like people that would want to kill babies, mutilate children, want the government to “guarantee” an income / benefits and cheat on things, like say, voting. (I say that primarily because they were cheering for those “rights” other than the cheating)I don’t generally judge books by their covers, but the type of crowd there vs. what I saw at the RNC was quite different. Makes me quite concerned, especially seeing HOW MANY were crammed in there cheering for these rotten policies.

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Peter GL's avatar

Tried it again tonight, hoping maybe tonight’s speaker would be better. Alas, tonight I couldn’t even stomach one single sentence!

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Vince's avatar

I tried to watch it. Just could not do it.

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Peter Schott's avatar

I can't imagine watching hours of any political news/convention - any party. I hate just having the SOTU speeches on TV (for all parties - I'm equal opportunity there).

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Fla Mom's avatar

Peter Schott, I had never watched a political convention until Trump's in 2016, I think it was. A leftie FB friend criticized it as hate-filled, and I commented that that just showed that she hadn't actually watched it, because it was a love letter to America. Many of the talks were by normal Americans, not politicians, and they were very moving. If you can find it, I encourage anyone to watch it; it is heartening and edifying.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Lol....to both, Doc.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Putin's offer is generous. A country that is incentivizing families to expand and resisting 3rd world usurpers.

And they're building on their Christian base strengthening their economy and high-trust society.

But the weather is crummy there and America can still be fixed.

So I'll stay in Florida. In fact, this is a good day a for beach visit...

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sunsandwind's avatar

Good points, Canada is a harder sell for me. Might consider Putin's offer.

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SM's avatar

Absolutely not Canada, unless you prefer to be completely micromanaged and financially defrauded by the government.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

And no fair elections.

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Johnny-O's avatar

So basically things aren't much different than here....sadly.

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SM's avatar

No, there are drastic differences in the 🇺🇸

I’d rather be here than anywhere else at the moment. Not because I think Americans are elite in any way, but because there is a national consensus that freedom is your RIGHT and no elected official has the authority to say otherwise! The deeply rooted belief that liberty and justice FOR ALL has been tainted by woke, liberal anti-feminism and pseudo racism. I’m not proud of everything America is doing now, or has done throughout history, but I am proud of the foundations upon which it was founded. I believe there are enough people who still grasp such things as our constitution defines and will fight for it fervently. Until God opens the sky and appears for all to see, I’m happy to be in the USA 🦅

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Concerned mom's avatar

THIS IS IT... BUT WE HAVE FORGOTTEN OUR HISTORY...and others want to re-write it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI4wBNN9cm4

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Kate Finis's avatar

As for me, I will stay and FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! for my country!

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Juju's avatar

We are already!

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Darlene's avatar

Sadly what you say is true. Another 14 months for our election…if we survive that long 🙄

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Concerned mom's avatar

3

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Nick Kottenstette's avatar

Dude Canada is full out communist with Dictator Trudeau running it with an iron fist.

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Concerned mom's avatar

It's a toss between Putin's Russia or Bukele's El Salvador

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Roger Beal's avatar

I wonder what is Putin's policy to accepting otherwise-qualified immigrants who are over 70 and require government medical care to make ends meet. Because I suspect many who respond favorably to Putin's invitation will be conservative boomers past retirement age, who long to spend their final days in an environment that resembles 1950s America.

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Aloha50's avatar

There are many based zoomers who would consider this provided they have the skills.

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Tim R's avatar

Still, it a hilarious and awesome trolling of the west!

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Oh yeah, RUB it IN!

We were in your state, (my second fave state) in June and will be again in October, if the Lord tarries… 🌊🌊🌊🏖️🏝️☀️ Idk how you get anything done!

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

Have your seasonal visitors thinned out? I am in Lower Alabama (LA) and ours are still coming... lately I’ve noticed more California tags.

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SusanMc's avatar

I’m concerned by how they may vote. “Don’t bring your blue mindedness here.”

I do hope all the south of the borders ones brought here aren’t on our voter rolls.

I keep thinking “Georgia 2020” tho at least we don’t have a Stacy Abrams & Rafensberger (sp.?) to facilitate cheating.

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NofloChick's avatar

I’m with you Florida Man. Florida suits me just fine too! 😎

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daverkb's avatar

Nothing is perfect. But the Federation does have the massive support of every day Russian. Look the the United States. Not even remotely close.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, I grew up in Western New England, and appreciate snow.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I hear ya. Still have my extensive flannel shirt collection.

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MJ's avatar

...the ⛱️ is my happy place

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Ask me again if, God forbid, Harris wins (cheats enough) in November.

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Readtolearn's avatar

I’m curious about the history test and what it covers. Is it the actual history?

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Concerned mom's avatar

Like the History lesson Putin gave Tucker at his interview....

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Jpeach's avatar

Kamala’s tax policy is leaking out. A 25% tax on unrealized gains. So, if I’m essentially broke, can’t afford my mortgage but, the value of my home goes up by $100,000, I will owe $25,000 in Federal taxes. The IRS will need 87,000 more armed IRS agents to collect those taxes.

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Heather's avatar

God forbid she wins, but if so, I’ll be part of the many lawsuits against this!! Is the govt gonna reimburse me when my assets go down? What if they down and then back up, do I get taxed again on that gain? (probably if they think they can get away with it!)

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Can’t we ALL do a class action law suit at that point? Wouldn’t anyone affected have standing? Since the deadbeat courts use that excuse any time they don’t wanna get involved 🙄. This thing is infuriating. I told my husband at that point we’d pull all our money out so we don’t have unrealized capital gains. Then the economy would crash which is what they want anyway. But it will crash anyway since no one can afford to pay with money they don’t actually have. The stupidity rises to the top.

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Roger Beal's avatar

The class action is refusal of payment by several tens of millions of taxpayers, all at the same time.

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c morrow's avatar

Sign me up!

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MaryAnn's avatar

My taxes are deducted before I get my state funded pension check. How does one stop that from happening?

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MJ's avatar

We can hire Jeff

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Brian Lombardi's avatar

I would think the first lawsuit would be basic constitutional violations, but showing actual harm wouldn't come until after they've stolen your money.

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RunningLogic's avatar

You probably would be denied “standing” regardless of whether or not you really have it 😕😑

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Peace's avatar

My first thought as well - we'll get that "unrealized gain" back if it becomes an "unrealized loss" right?

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Peter Schott's avatar

"unrealized gains" - just no idea how _anyone_ can propose that with a straight face. And of course, it wouldn't got the same way for "unrealized losses". Ugh.

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PEL's avatar

Interesting though that property taxes are based on market value.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The Biden regime has been working toward this for some time now. The USG is going broke and that is the single biggest issue driving the Gov't.

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NAB's avatar

Still preparing for them to take our 401Ks

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CHop's avatar

That will destroy the middle class in a few short years...which has been their intention all along.

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Brian Lombardi's avatar

Everything dems propose is unconstitutional, I could NEVER see this passing SCOTUS. Furthermore, why would an elite or bil/millionaire vote for this? It's almost as of the elite propose it, knowing it will never pass, but it's another reason for the poor to vote for it? Like student debt. An empty promise for votes

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Paige Green's avatar

I’m sure federal employees and favored corporations will have a carve-out so they won’t have to participate. I don’t see how Nancy Pelosi, for example, would be for this at all!

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NAB's avatar

Crap. Is that really how it works?? Sadly, there are so many people steeped in the politics of envy, that would relish this type of punitive tax inflicted on "others." You should hear how kids coming out of college disparage "generational wealth" meaning even inheritances from middle class parents are now a form of exploitation.

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PEL's avatar

Even while they happily take the monetary help from those elders!

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NAB's avatar

Precisely.

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Cindi's avatar

I heard that Big Mike said we need to get back to “hope”, missing the irony that if people have lost “hope”, it’s because of the last 4 years of FJB & the vaunted Kackala Kneepads Harris. The tire marks all over Biden’s backside from getting thrown under the bus so many times now must be a sight to behold. No wonder he left the convention so fast.

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CStone's avatar

Biden deserves every tire track on his backside.

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Cindi's avatar

Yes, he does. As well as the deliberate humiliation & blow to his “legacy” by his own party. By all accounts, he should’ve been hung (along with many, many others) for treason. If he & his grifter family ever face consequences for his actions, he’ll be too far gone (or dead) to know it & that’s a travesty.

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Concerned mom's avatar

BEFORE God... he WILL know! There's NO escaping that!

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LuAnne's avatar

I'll take that 4 year reminder and raise it by 8 yrs. Over the last 16 yrs, the democrats have had the WH for 12 yrs of those yrs but somehow, 4 yrs of Trump ruined everything. EVEN though life for most people was clearly better during those 4 yrs. And, no wars.

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Darlene's avatar

Trump did ruin things for them by “messing up their plans”…hopefully he has another 4 years to mess them up more!!

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FH's avatar

Exactly

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Roger Beal's avatar

Well, it was well past Ol' Joe's bedtime ... and the ice cream was melting.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Where was Mrs Joe? Has she bailed on that sinking ship?

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Paige Green's avatar

I saw a clip of her at the DNC, all smiles…

A sweet deal was cut, I’m sure, to keep at least her handling some puppet strings of the sham shadow government. She in no way is doing anything for JB, it’s apparent she’s had enough of his “oldness.”

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RunningLogic's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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NAB's avatar

The rhetoric is infuriating. The messaging is all based on this illusion that the last four years didn't happen and that the Dems are running against Trump from 2020.

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CHop's avatar

I thought the same thing when I watched the clip of her/him saying that. It's as if their party wasn't in power these last 4 years.

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NAB's avatar

This tweet by Peachy Keenan cracks me up (as the kids say, it's "harsh, but fair."):

https://x.com/KeenanPeachy/status/1826089645391884635?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Credenda's avatar

“Budget plastic surgery” and “discount Botox” I’m dying here! So savage, so apropos!

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Honestly the nose looks like the wicked witch of the west , are we in oz ?

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on the doss's avatar

It looks like a parrott perch.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

A parrot perch… perfect for a pirate.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Oz may be an improvement.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??? 🤣😆

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Heather's avatar

Worse than the Roseanne Barr rendition! How embarrassed they should be….but alas, it’s the DNC and they don’t ever get embarrassed

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Robin Greer's avatar

Jeremiah 6:15 Were they ashamed because of the abomination they had done? They were not ashamed at all, Nor did they know even how to be ashamed. Therefore they will fall among those who fall; At the time that I punish them, They will collapse,” says the Lord.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Thanks, Robin, for posting that chapter and verse - rarely do we see or hear it, and it is SO appropriate to this garbage-can culture we live in.

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jewel's avatar

For a list of the contents of that garbage can, see Don Surber's substack today defining "normal" for the demscums

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Peter Schott's avatar

At least Roseanne was "trying" to be "funny" with her rendition. (Failure, but she's in that business of comedy so I can at least give that a pass with a "don't let this happen again".) She was also booed across the board for that rendition.

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Heather's avatar

True - I struggle to be too critical of her for that...she's a comedian, and cannot sing. She figured they wanted comedy and not a beautiful rendition. I also feel like she'd never do that today because she's become far more conservative as she's aged (or my impression of her has changed if she hasn't)

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MoM's avatar

Good grief. Did the ‘glass ceiling" finally break from that 💩show?

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆

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A.J.'s avatar

I want names, job titles, and salary data for those women.

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MaryAnn's avatar

I saw/heard last evening this but thought it was a spoof. Beyond awful.

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KCwoofie's avatar

To me it was deliberately disrespectful: those Broads got no class.

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christopher peacock's avatar

Eyes and ears are pained forever. Can not get the acrid taste out of my brain

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RunningLogic's avatar

I didn’t even listen, reading the comments here is enough for me 😆

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Sorry Christopher 😂

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CeeMcG's avatar

For anyone who needs to clean their ears after that awful rendition, I just saw this on Instagram recently - Meatloaf singing the National Anthem. Gave me chills. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9fUEvUuF4T/

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NAB's avatar

Very Meatloaf! Love it. Did you notice how, dare I say, diverse, the teams were? That was from 1994 before we raised several generations to despise this great, if flawed, country.

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

Wow! That's terrific!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

What a shameful display. I stopped listening. I did wipe away some blood dripping from my ears. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Wow. Terrible. Disrespectful.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I’m sure it was a disaster. I don’t think I could bare to listen

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AngelaK's avatar

Ugliness in the arts is of the devil. The entire Democratic Party has embraced satan, knowingly or unknowingly.

Beauty comes from God.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Wise decision.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Color me surprised that these people even knew the words.

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CStone's avatar

They didn’t. That was obvious.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Probably reading a teleprompter 😑

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

This right here, is treason, as far as I’m concerned. They make a mockery of the anthem? I hope those goofy as protesters knock their fences down and overwhelm the place.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

That’s a sick joke right Laura K ? 😵‍💫

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I thought it might be fake, but Tucker linked it in his article of this morning.

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Peace's avatar

I am hoping this is not actually the people supposed to be leading the anthem but rather an unfortunate act of not turning off the microphones in front of presenters (not presenting the anthem). Otherwise, I'm flummoxed!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

What was that?

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Deb's avatar

Holy cow! That was awful and embarrassing!!!!!

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AJF's avatar

Noooooo...worse than horrible. 😰

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LW's avatar

Mockery. Disrespecting country.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Oh my goodness me. And flanked by two females who were "focussed" on other concerns. Those chicks need the Kodaly music method but bad!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

So much information to absorb today and it makes me look forward even more to Jesus’ return. Come quickly Lord Jesus! And thank you, Jeff, for keeping us well informed.

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

I was thinking of moving to Russia for a minute but I would miss my home too much even if its a total shit show right now, I was born and raised here and until Castro "Trudeau" got in we lived relatively free. Being Im 72 and my husband is 69 and still working, he's worked at the same job for 49 years, it'll be 50 in October, he has always loved working there so it looks like we're sticking around for a couple more years, he said he'll work until he's 78 or 79, I laughed because at 72 he has to do something with his work pension, I don't believe he has to take it then though. He has 3 pensions coming when he retires so we should be ok financially unless crap hits the fan due to government and all that, CBDCs, social credit and digital IDs. We have been ready for that so we've taken actions to financially avoid them, pray everyone can. Have a great hump day all.

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Jeff C's avatar

I love reading stories of people still working past "retirement age" just because they love it and enjoy being productive. God bless your husband.

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

Thank you, God Bless you and your family too.

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NAB's avatar

That's how I feel about where I live, too, Hannah. People tell us all the time "get out of NY." But this is where our roots are. We have a home here. We have parents buried here. I would love my kids to come back here. I don't absolutely rule out moving and will do what is required, but for now, we stay, and fight and find others who share our values.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Same here in Commiefornicate

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Heather's avatar

Wish I could attend…hope it’s a smashing success!!

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Thank you!

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Carol M.'s avatar

Donated and wish God’s blessings on all of you❣️

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Thank you!

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Carol M.'s avatar

You are welcome and I should have written “praying God’s blessings over you”🤓😇

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Concerned mom's avatar

Thanks for the link

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Janelle Happach's avatar

Yeah I live in IL. We loathe JB Pritzker.

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

And people in Minnesota loath Walz and yet they still get elected again and again. What gives?

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Bill Campbell's avatar

what gives is corrupt elections. the wonderful people of those states did not elect those scum.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or heavy Democrat representation in urban populations that skews the vote 😕

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walk2write's avatar

That’s it exactly. We are from a county in downstate Illinois that is the only “blue county,” and it’s because of the university located there. Years ago, the university heavily recruited students from the Chicago area, and many of them stayed in the area after graduation and continue to vote D, ruining the whole barrel of good apples.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Voter fraud. That’s it. The elections are rigged.

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Kitkat's avatar

Rigged elections- 100%

Gruesome Newsom in Commiefornia is another perfect example. I don't know anyone that voted for that grifting, greasy schmuck. And yet he gets 2 terms.

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ROKM's avatar

Cheating. I remember growing up in IL hearing the "vote early, vote often" line as a 'joke'. HA. And there were always dead ppl voting. Now I live in MN and the wild dems (DFL) have a stranglehold on the tradition of lib Scandinavians.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

The forensic evidence does show that dead people vote. For years and even decades after they passed. Whenever they need to change the trajectory of the election, out come the dead people. As many as needed to get the person the left want to win. It’s been proven.

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Juju's avatar

And now they have live people to use: illegal immigrants

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Robin Greer's avatar

Was it MI or IL that went to court to try to stop the removal of dead people from the rolls? I think it was MI - Whitmer.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Long decades ago, Mayor Daley of Chicago was considered the king of the dead vote. Question arises--as we all are sinners, do Republicans similarly call upon the 'undead' to vote?

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Red states don’t need dead people to vote; it’s the left that needs fraud to win.

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Heather's avatar

One issue in MN is we let students at the UofM vote….just need to be here 30-days and have someone vouch for you even though they are still citizens of whatever state they came from….pretty tough to win the metro with rules like that (even if there wasn’t cheating)

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Well that is actually cheating anyway. 🙄 Vote in MN even though you are a resident of another state. How many are voting in both places. 😒

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Roger Beal's avatar

What do you want to be that many of those "sojourners" ALSO vote in their home states via mail-in ballots.

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Fred's avatar

And the non-residents can also vote absentee from their home states.

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CHop's avatar

They did that in Georgia...facilitated out of state students to register in their state for the day

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Same in Colorado..CSU students can vote, and some w/o ID (I know because I witnessed this at my polling station).

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Credenda's avatar

I’ve always thought of Minnesota as a liberal state. They inherited that social Democrat ideology brought over from Northern Europe. It runs deep.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Mondale…

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Heather's avatar

We have, until 2-years ago, had a split government. It's saved us from going full socialist as we (as most states do) have a decent population of conservatives outside of Minneapolis and St Paul....now we are just going full commie though

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GG's avatar

And Biden won in 2020. What gives?🤔

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

“Won.”

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YYR's avatar

Little Somalia.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

I live by the red haired tongue girl … along with the whitchmer. Ugggh..

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Peace's avatar

What is up with the tongue? I saw her last night - really dry mouth?!

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MOMinator's avatar

IL & MN residents in my family…I’m wondering the same thing…🤨

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

I imagine only those who pay attention hate him. So much complacency in our country. Thanks to MSM

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YYR's avatar

How could one not pay attention in 2020/2021 during BLM and Covid?

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I’m with you 😭 I’m stuck here and am surrounded with lunatic liberals.

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Credenda's avatar

That whole family is sick, sick, sick!

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