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Jeff Childers's avatar

Good morning all! I decided to make today's bonus post a bonus for everyone, to help make up for the unpredictable vacation schedule and lower quality. Enjoy!

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RunningLogic's avatar

No need to make up for your shorter posts on vacation, you certainly deserve a break! And *what* lower quality?? Now stop that talk, they were awesome as always!

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Dr Linda's avatar

We entertained ourselves as well. What an awesome group.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Welcome home, Jeff! We appreciate any and all posts, long or short. The content is always stellar.

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Raptor's avatar

We are good at independent play.

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Dr Linda's avatar

As my Mom used say “Entertain yourselves …. outside”

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Bike-jumping ramps, drinking out of the garden hose. How did we survive?

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Dr Linda's avatar

Grass! Dirt! Mud! Yikes

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PamelaZelie's avatar

City girl here. I swam in local polluted ponds and lakes. My rural husband grew up playing on railroad trestles and jumping on ice floes in the river.

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Raptor's avatar

My mom too. We were monsters.

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Sharon's avatar

😏 I was also a member of the "monster"generation. I wouldn't have wanted an 8year old me underfoot, either

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! Agree!!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Haaa, yes the comments section is definitely part of the fun. We certainly do entertain ourselves, don't we, Dr Linda!

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Gaye's avatar

Running with scissors is always entertaining! 🫣🤣

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Dr Linda's avatar

Jumping off the roof, not with scissors though. I think my Mom hid the scissors. 😱

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Gaye's avatar

I, too, enjoy some roof time. 🤣

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆😂

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Ditto to the sentiments of Running, Attorney Jeff...you surely deserve a RESPITE from foraging through all of the news/podcasts/Substacks sources you use to deliver up-to-date truth to us, your earnest followers.

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Michael Framson's avatar

I had an amusing thought: Imagine if "this" or any of Jeff's articles showed up as news on NPR's "Morning Edition or All Things Considered". Imagine the bedlam! Like that mostly peaceful riot in NYC. The Left would go bonkers.

I could even imagine some of the NPR listeners having a SADs event. They were healthy until they turned on NPR.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

"Wild Imaginings", Michael...but piqued my interest for sure!!

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Awesome as always indeed! Thank you.

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Sharon Garvin's avatar

Dido!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

For what it's worth, I thought all was well and smooth while you all were on vacation. And to be fair, thanks for sending these while on vacation and welcome back in the swing of things.

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Jennifer Jacobson's avatar

You are too kind, I’m thinking the Childers fam definitely deserved the Vacay. You have no idea the excitement when I opened up my mail and there you were on a Sunday morning. I can’t afford to be a paid subscriber at this time, and I felt truly blessed to have my coffee with you this morning.

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Shari's avatar

Same here :-) The first thing I do in the morning is read Coffee & Covid!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same reaction here!! 🙂

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Annie Today and Tomorrow's avatar

Same here!

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Likewise - it was a very pleasant surprise. Cheers!

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Heather's avatar

Me too! I wish there were tiers of support so I could contribute in some way....best news analysis to be found anywhere!

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Laura Z's avatar

Tiered support would be an excellent idea. I would love to be a subscriber but can't afford the annual or monthly amount at this time. Thank you Jeff for giving us this bonus edition and for all you do every single day to bring us truthful news we can trust with a witty twist.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Well, I didn't notice it till after church and lunch, checking emails. By then the comments were over 500 - and I'd hoped to post a comment on a quiet day.

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Janet's avatar

I was unaware there was a bonus until now—2:30 pm. 469 comments already. My afternoon coffee moment is sweeter now.

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Teresa Carstensen's avatar

I think it's time for me to do another "ONE TIME DONATION" (ending in a "2" of course) :)

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-give-a-donation-to-coffee-and-covid

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great idea!!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Great idea indeed! I can look to contribute.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Absolutely.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Teresa, I tried twice, didn’t work. I think it kept getting hung up on the card expiration date. Maybe I should try on my laptop.

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Teresa Carstensen's avatar

Yes, do try again. I just had success; on a desktop pc.

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Laura Z's avatar

Awesome idea! Will make a donation as well!

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Raptor's avatar

Imagine our little clapping hands when we opened our emails this morning.

Welcome back to reality (though you did keep one foot on the reality banana peel). May your church fam and the comfort in knowing who wins in the end comfort and bless you until next vacation.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That was me! 😂 I happened to open my email just as the message appeared in my inbox and was so excited! 😆😁

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Me too!

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Me too!

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Big E's avatar

What everyone else said! If all others on this planet created material as unpredictable and low-quality as yours, Mr. Childers, we wouldn’t be in this planetary pickle! 🌎🥒

Keep up the unpredictable low quality! We appreciate it :-) Your low quality is better than the best of the rest.

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TIM's avatar

Seems we have the potential for our own Chinese lab...this isn't talked much about these days. The Lambs owned several car dealerships in Citrus county https://www.chronicleonline.com/weeklies/levy_county_citizen/local_news/chinese-based-company-buys-levy-land-for-primate-facility/article_ecc9b795-d002-5a79-84fe-066bed28d2a8.html

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Debra Campbell's avatar

We rednecks will not allow China to have a primate facility here just saying. China doesn’t realize how many guns us crackers have.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

😦😢😡

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Michele's avatar

Wow.

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devoalan's avatar

There was no lack of quality whilst on vacay. In fact we owe your bride a debt of gratitude to deal with you not really vacating when you probably could have been. Ty!

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LastBulwark's avatar

Keep up the awesome work brother and enjoy the vacation!

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Nick Kottenstette's avatar

Thank you! It was a welcome read!

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FourWinds's avatar

Bonus C&C!!!!!! You made my day!!!!! :) And I don't think anything over the past weeks was lower quality at all.

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Sandy's avatar

Thank you (and Michelle) for keeping us posted while y'all were on vacation.

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Amy Loftus's avatar

Thank you and thank you for covering the CA lab story!!!! Looking forward to more.

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Linelle MacDougal's avatar

We have so little writing like this coming out of Chinada ( the safe and still effective place) that your "vacation schedule writing" was wonderful as always - as valuable as the one eyed man in the land of the blind. Thank you for all your efforts that question the current narractive.

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Leslie Murphree's avatar

Thankful for you Jeff & thankful for your precious wife that she is ok with you working during your vaca!!! We love you no matter what. ♥️🤍💙

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Harold Saive's avatar

I think a case can be made that the collapse of criminal justice in Ukraine was a factor in Putin's decision to initiate a military police action.

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rolandttg's avatar

If this is true, we did he not invade the US?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The Russian-speaking eastern part of Ukraine was literally about to be smashed by a build up of NATO-sponsored troops which necessitated the intervention to prevent any more massacre.

https://rumble.com/vwnuej-ukraine-on-fire-the-real-story-2014-full-documentary-by-oliver-stone.html

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rolandttg's avatar

somebody who did their research.. I have been closely studying the Ukraine since 2014 when Victoria nulled orchestrated what Stratfor, the "shadow CIA", called the most blatant coup in history.

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

I’m going to miss the Ukraine flag emojis going away. It helps immediately identify who not to take seriously. BTW, I live near Annapolis and at least once a week I STILL see a double masker.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Saw a masker yesterday. 104 degree heat. They are very dedicated.

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Jaci's avatar

And fearfully, ignorant...there is one at my local Y who wears a mask and goggles to do water exercises...seems she is afraid of getting a cold...

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Dreamom3's avatar

My family recently stayed in a hotel in Alabama where all employees were required to wear masks and where a sign at the complimentary breakfast advised patrons that they must wear masks and gloves to partake. Thankfully no one was buying it as I saw no one - other than the poor workers - wearing masks or gloves. But I might sue the hotel for triggering my PTSD at having to live through the trauma of being continually bullied for not masking during the height of the “pandemic” 🤪

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RunningLogic's avatar

I just still don’t understand how some random person gets to tell everyone they must wear a medical device in order to receive a service? That’s never made sense to me.

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CMCM's avatar

Remember the old signs of "No shirt, no shoes, no service"? Now it is "No mask no service". I would never again patronize establishments like this, and furthermore, I would let them know why I would not be back.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It really bugged me when people equated the masks to a dress code. Wearing a medical device is not the same as wearing clothing.

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WP William's avatar

Yes, and stand on your head rub your belly and bark like a seal to get your meal makes as much sense.

I was spatially-shamed at a coffee joint as i was 4 ft from some chick who wanted me to "give her some space" while she perused the 1 lb bags of coffee for sale behind her while also trying to order her cup to drink with her boyfriend next to her and the barista in front with a counter between (3 ft). Compliant Nut JOBs who should have stayed home and drank coffee in fear (with lights off so the Planet stops warming) would rather risk going out in public to incite and demand virtuous social distancing (so OBVIOUSLY NOT really fearful AT ALL of a pandemic nor Climate Change). A couple steps back and she gave a warm "Thank You", i felt so warm and that i'd made her feel so much safer as a result.

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆 Exactly!

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Janet's avatar

It’s against actual federal law to make entrance into a public place dependent on wearing a medical device—which a mask is. So many federal law breakers. I’ve seen the law. Have it in my stash of papers somewhere.

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PermieGeek's avatar

I have felt the same from early on. If I were to do things over I would have sued my local library for not letting me in without one as it kept me from going (had a medical condition the mask exasperated).

I took a class on how to represent myself in court but wasted my time with the knowledge dealing with the county firing my daughter. A non lawyer can represent themselves in court but not anyone else.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I still want to sue the health department over the mask mandates as well as businesses who denied me service.

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AngelaK's avatar

And do they have to eat with the mask on too?!🙄

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Anne Clifton's avatar

It's possible to keep the mask on, but pull it just far enough away to insert the fork or spoon into your mouth. I know this because I saw it being demonstrated in a restaurant just a couple of months ago. Ridiculous looking!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I would def write to the hotel, at least, to let them know that mask are a reminder of a deplorable time in our history. And that they are too ill-informed as a hotel, to recommend to anyone.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I left my review for UCLA health and told them they need to drop mask mandate as everyone knows they don’t work! (last week)🙄

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Janet's avatar

Send them a stern letter threat. Federal law prohibits requiring the wearing or use of a medical device (which a mask is) to enter a public location—or any location I believe. It’s a really legal statute in federal law. Find it and use it. Enough is enough.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Hear hear!

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CMCM's avatar

I'm always surprised to read of things like this. I'm in blue looney California and admittedly I never ever go to any of the big cities, never will go in fact, but outside those cities (where such things may possibly go on, I wouldn't know) I virtually never see a mask anywhere now.

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Sunshinegirl1217's avatar

she'd be a party pooper at a chickenpox party 🥳

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow that’s beyond ridiculous 🙄🙄🙄

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Annie's avatar

Wow! In some way I admire her devotion as stupid as it seems.

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Joni's avatar

I saw a mother double masked pulling her kids in a wagon outside!!! Poor kids don’t stand a chance with a brain dead mother like this!!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Probably would support trans-grooming too.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

some are unteachable. A few weeks ago, the last 2 maskers at the local store had put their face diapers away. This week they had them back on. I give it one more try, if they wear them next time, I will tell them, that I rather drive 15 miles to the next village so I can see a face. I wonder if that will help, since this store is employee owned, and I have been shopping there for the last few months to avoid walmarting.

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WP William's avatar

I'll still throw one on occasionally just to get a reaction--the Libs almost head nod approval and seem shamed that they didn't have the courage to wear theirs. The anti-Maskers shake their heads and roll their eyes so i give them a thumbs up, pull down mask and smile. YES by golly if you're coughing and hacking in public PLEASE DO WEAR a mask no matter your view but even BETTER go home and rest--unless you're experiencing homelessness due to inequity and lack of mental health resources then do whatever you want wherever you want to whoever you want.

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RunningLogic's avatar

No, masking will NOT help if you’re coughing and hacking, see Stephen Petty’s expert industrial hygienist videos and posts for why. It’s simply not effective and can be harmful, as well as giving people a false sense of security.

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WP William's avatar

Yes, well false sense of security is better than nothing; we Americans thrive with it

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RunningLogic's avatar

Apparently so 😛

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Arne's avatar

I believe you have to apply pressure as a consumer and tell masked places you aren't going to buy their merchandise.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yep. I make a point to mention masking practices (negatively) when I am asked to complete a survey.

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Annie's avatar

It further helped to define sheeple and avoid them.

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Raptor's avatar

I saw one of the Ukrainian flag bumper stickers on a car a few days ago. Faded. I thought that was a sweet coincidental metaphor.

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CMCM's avatar

Now they match the faded and torn "Free Tibet" stickers.

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cat's avatar

The best indicator was the person wearing a mask that had Ukraine flag on it. Double indicator.

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WP William's avatar

and a BLM shirt with a rainbow ribbon on the collar

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

I live in Florida by the beach and still see them. Single. Haven’t seen a double in a while. Can’t believe wearing a mask in the Sun and heat on the Florida beach.

This one takes the cake though: I work part time (retired) from home as an online notary. One day last week I had a caller who was standing outside in the Sun in Florida who put on a mask to talk to me because she had just tested positive she said. I still don’t know quite what to make of that.

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RU's avatar

Recently visited NC and was absolutely floored that I saw probably a half dozen or more people in the grocery store wearing "masks." I swear it's given some people a reason to live or something. Like, they live to make the world worse for everyone else.

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June M's avatar

We are vacationing in NC and saw 2 people come into the restaurant we were having breakfast at this morning. The lady had her mask off once she was at the table but the man just say there with his on. So sad.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Didn't the man know that once you sit down at your table you are in a safe zone? The germs literally cannot enter the airspace at your table. It's science!

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Janet's avatar

I still see a few around and on people in cars. But the 98 yo fellow at church today didn’t have one on. It was lovely to see him smile with twinkling eyes. 🥰

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s a combination of anxiety/fear and virtue signaling. They get a big rush from that feeling and can’t stop.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

They worship their covid god.

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Jaci's avatar

Great observation...I avoid them...

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AJF's avatar

Every day in VT!

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The Fifster's avatar

Home of Bernie "The Commie" Sanders....and lots of transplanted NY'ers..

Oy Vei

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

An occasional masker. I’ve been trying to notice what kind and color the fabric is. Primarily a dark fabric and way up under the eyes. Rarely a generic white medical mask. Not sure what if anything that means.

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Annie's avatar

It means they are delusional and mentally ill.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

The medical masks have evil toxins sprayed in them as well. I used to have the thought process if they made me wear a mask I would make them spend the money on them. Then I started reading medical masks weren't safe to wear. So I bought my own. One is a dark blue linen type and the other is black lace type. I can breathe through both. More than once a medical person told me they weren't the right type of mask and I told them my face was covered and to leave me alone.

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I need to correct this, I don't know that they are intentionally sprayed w/chemicals, but I have read the materials used to make them has chemicals that are not good. Different masks are made out of different material, and whatever they are making the medical ones with, most of them are from China, are not the best to use. So if you need to wear one research the mask and were it is made and what it is made out of.

The other thing it seems to be another tactic to harm our medical professionals. Everyone gets ill and less people to take of those that need medical treatment.

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Janet's avatar

I found one under the seat of my car this morning (yeah, i don’t clean it out that much). It was very handy at that moment for wiping off bird poop on my car mirror.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Appropriate😅

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Juliah's avatar

Black Masks Matter

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Style choice. Gotta look cool.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Sorry guys.. I’m not even an occasional maker… I meant to say occasional observer. Makes my hear fall every time I see one.. a mask that is. Halloween everyday.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Oh, thank goodness, I was wondering. But... makes your 'hear fall'? Maybe a bit of proofreading bf posting?

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Apologies Oregon Kathy. I will try to do better. :(

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I got hung up on trying to figure it out. I should just press on, these comments are never-ending, but fascinating.

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SB's avatar

Yea, I'm still encountering the rare masker around here and I'm seriously trying to avoid them. Still need to determine how to gracefully bow out of some situations with them...

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Annie's avatar

Start coughing. That usually freaks them out . Though it's hard to keep a straight face. 😉😅

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆 I love your spirit, Annie, you just always are ready to have at ‘em!! 😁

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Annie's avatar

My hubby "crop dusts" them. 😉 if you know what I mean. See if they can smell that through their masks. 😂😂

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Oh you can smell it! Just another indication it isn’t working!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ewww 😝😂

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I don't try to gracefully do anything with them. I simply tell them I can't hear them with that mask on, then pretend they're not talking. If it's business, they always take the mask off to finish the conversation. I won't try to hear people in masks any more.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I’m in my 40s and can’t hear people with the damn mask on.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

sometimes I can't help but laugh at their face.

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SB's avatar

I'm thinking of giving them a Biden "I did that" sticker...

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Runemasque's avatar

I know a fellow who is always masked, still, but doesn't otherwise seem concerned about contagion. Then I saw him pull down the mask and spit. He has terribly rotted teeth, and uses the mask to surreptitiously chew tobacco on the job.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Aha! 😆

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

It will be replaced with the next new brainwashing plot.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Right?

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Michele's avatar

I am sure a new virtue symbol will appear to take its place!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The Ukrainian flags are still here. It's not going anywhere since Congress voted Down Horse face's resolution to strip Ukraine aid and Getz' same, lame attempt.

it's popular with voters.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Many foolish and needless taxpayer funded giveaways are popular with voters. That's one of America's major problems going forward.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's like the covid shots. A majority of Americanistas took the shots. Critical thinking is out the door.

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john's avatar

Going forward, it would likely help critical thinking in America if connecting the dots, on why mRNA is always unsafe, was made easier by not obscuring the clear evidence provided in refs below. All Americans should be aware of these simple and easy-to-understand facts -- those that know are obligated to spread them.

Two items that refute ongoing narratives are that all mRNA is unsafe due to its fundamental flaws and antibodies play only a minor role in human immune responses. Understandable explanations are given by an expert in 00:45-22:00+ of https://rumble.com/v1p3855-friday-roundtable-worrying-developments-with-michael-palmer-m.d.-sucharit-b.html.

Basically, when a cell is infected by mRNA, it is tricked into making foreign, non-self-proteins, which essentially marks this mRNA-infected cell for violent death by “complement” (killer system #2 in body), if antibodies are present (as they would be after 1st shot). Thus, mRNA causes the body to attack itself, making all things with mRNA unsafe:

* Blood vessels damaged first, causing blood clots and leaks, which then enable damage to surrounding organs

* Above mechanisms explain sudden death and most other mRNA injuries

(good ref = “Roitt's Essential Immunology” Chapter-1)

This item is for those that think the covid debacle was due to accident and/or incompetence. This Yeadon video supports Bhakdi video and also provides solid evidence that the covid crimes against humanity were intentional.

* Link = https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/o/3/7/w/o37wi.caa.mp4?u=8msc5&b=0

* Time Marks:

___11:00 drug design

___11:30 3 clues jabs designed to injure/maim/kill

___12:08 #1 = toxicity of antigen

___13:03 #2 = protection for payload

___15:00 #3 = why all mRNA jabs are harmful

___16:06 tptb are moving all jabs to mRNA = disaster for humanity

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Janet's avatar

Thanks, John. I have copied and saved this.

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john's avatar

yw, and please help spread this info far and wide, all humans need to know it!

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Sunshinegirl1217's avatar

happened so fast i thought i'd fallen down the rabbit hole. people i've known for decades became branch covidians overnight. the one's left alive still are. so surreal.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Thankful a lot of us refused to give in to peer pressure.

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WP William's avatar

We should ask and demand an answer from EACH and EVERY Candidate about their vaxx status and let the conversation roll from there

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I don't care if someone got the shot. It's their choice.

I care if they force others to get it.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Thankfully this is neither as it's necessary.

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CMCM's avatar

My husband detests horse face. He is a Vietnam vet, he was drafted in 1966 but served with pride, he spent a full year as a combat vet and came home with a Bronze Star. He did get injured (not enough to send him home, though), and he was offered a Purple Heart because of the injury. He REFUSED the purple heart because as he has always said, most Purple Heart recipients came home in a box. He felt in good conscience he couldn't accept one as his injury was fairly slight. Yet horse face got 3 Purple Hearts AND a Bronze Star within just a few months. I won't go into what he did after he got his privileged self sent back to the U.S. after those few months. Both my husband and I donated to the Swift Vets to help sink his presidential bid. Best money we ever spent.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Horseface never served in Vietnam, she's a current congress critter.

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CMCM's avatar

There's more than one horseface in Congress. I was thinking about the despicable John Kerry.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Horseface one and two, they're both disgusting. Kerry is a liar and fraud who used his "purplehearts" to get sent home.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

Poor Bennie is really starting to look like a Ukie Kook.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

How's your 3 day war going?

530 days into it now last I checked. And Russia hasn't won.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

Yes, The Ukraine is going to win this at any minute (that is if you mean by "win" that they will actually finish the white genocide they and Russia are carrying out).

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Maybe Russia could have, IDK, not invaded? Pretty simple.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

Maybe the murderous Ukies shouldn't have been killing all those ethnic Russians? Even simpler.

But that is just the standard argument you keep pushing, while I am insisting it is an orchestrated genocide.

In other words, you praise the Ukes, while I am saying that they are ALL intentionally killing white people.

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Joni's avatar

They are being killed by the Nazi Ukrainian regime installed by Obama/Obiden!!!! It isn’t Russia. Pretty sad when we can’t accept any truth from our illegal government in the US and know Putin is the most credible one in all this!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Have you volunteered to get the Russian sputnik shot? It's safe and effective you know.

More nonsense and lies.

"ZAPORIZHZHIA, Ukraine (AP) — The Ukrainian civilians woke long before dawn in the bitter cold, lined up for the single toilet and were loaded at gunpoint into the livestock trailer. They spent the next 12 hours or more digging trenches on the front lines for Russian soldiers.

Many were forced to wear overlarge Russian military uniforms that could make them a target, and a former city administrator trudged around in boots five sizes too big. By the end of the day, their hands curled into icy claws.

Nearby, in the occupied region of Zaporizhzhia, other Ukrainian civilians dug mass graves into the frozen ground for fellow prisoners who had not survived. One man who refused to dig was shot on the spot — yet another body for the grave.

Thousands of Ukrainian civilians are being detained across Russia and the Ukrainian territories it occupies, in centers ranging from brand-new wings in Russian prisons to clammy basements. Most have no status under Russian law."

Russia treats people in these occupied territories like garbage. Nobody installed the Ukrainian government. The Russian one got overthrown.

A lot of conservatives who see the 2020 elections as fraudulent are in exactly the same boat as the Ukrainians in 2014 and 2005. The "conservatives" just weren't successful.

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AusYank's avatar

Poland: the US simply using their tried and true playbook, they need a country to serve as the hub for destabilizing all of the surrounding countries. This is the play they used to destabilize central America with Honduras. The Poles also have territorial ambitions in W Ukraine

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Are you saying Poland doesn't want to be apart of nato and is willing to go under the Russian sphere of influence?

They were forced into the warsaw pact for 50 years until they kicked out Russia and won their freedom.

Poland absolutely hates Russia.

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AusYank's avatar

quite the opposite, they are happy to be part of the Atlanticist fever dream so long as they get land back. Pity about that Volyn unpleasantness though isn't it

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

You don't send hundreds of tanks, SPGs, millions of rounds of ammunition all to someone you want to take land from.

Poland and Ukraine have cemented a friendship that's going to last for a few hundred years, just like the USA and England and France.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Indeed. That’s why the aid is so vital and should continue.

If there was no aid it wouldn’t be a murder. It would be a genocide and even worse than it is now

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SadieJay's avatar

I see the Ukraine flags AND maskers and know who to avoid. I don't want their air. And...I did hear that people who think they are ugly like wearing the masks. Makes them easier on our eyes. Bonus.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Best free advice from a non-medical specialist who thinks viruses do not exist...let that cold or flu run its course since it is only your body detoxifying itself and trying to slow you down so it can repair itself. Do not interfere unless conditions become extreme.

There is NO medical doctor or expert that can distinguish between different types of flu or rhinoviruses (colds). It's all pretty much the same and your precious body uses different methods of repair at different times for different reasons. Modern medical science, if it really exists, is still totally baffled at how the body works after thousands of years.

If you are prone to getting sick often or you cannot shake the pretend "virus", then it is likely you have more severe issues going on. Drugs will not fix or repair anything. You need a change of environment or eating habits or some other lifestyle alterations.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Yes! Why didn’t anyone remember Drs cannot distinguish between a cold and the flu when everyone was suddenly able to test for the C!?! Baffles the mind. And People are still testing, I’m dumbfounded.

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J Boss's avatar

I remembered. And I immediately noticed the flu was cured! Zero cases! Amazing Science!

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CMCM's avatar

I always found it hilarious that they expected us to all believe that the yearly flu just miraculously disappeared.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

I actually had a true believer tell me that the reason the flu disappeared was because of the masks. 🙄

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

My mom’s doctor told me that when I complained about their masking policy.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Based on my decade-plus experience running an online forum about a different disease, it's a fact that most people have a touching faith that medical science can lab-test for *anything*. They're shocked when they discover that it's actually not possible.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I was searching in my email for an order and this popped up. Are you the water hose people?? Just ordered two on recommendation through family. 😄

I hope people will start realizing about the tests! People I tell don’t know and probably don’t believe me 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Sunshinegirl1217's avatar

now that's great news! hope that trend is a super spreader.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

just like the enormous heaps of masks fading in the stores. The few that are still wearing one, have cotton ones. No one uses the throw aways anymore I think.

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Janet's avatar

I used one I found in my car to wipe bird poop off my car mirror this morning. That use actually worked and was safe and effective.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

there you go ! at least they are good for something !

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Annie Today and Tomorrow's avatar

At least they aren't in the gutters and parking lots much anymore.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh right?? That always made me so mad, as the sanctimonious harpies who shrilly rebuked everyone for daring to use a—gasp!!—plastic straw on occasion, had absolutely no problem with all of the ridiculous amounts of waste produced by the mask hysteria 😡

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Janet's avatar

How come they weren’t considered medical waste? Always wondered about that.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I’m still finding them polluting our streets and woods. Disgusting.

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MaryAnn's avatar

During Lent 2021, I started picking up trash on my walks. The masks were everywhere, like plastic trash bags in open fields.

Thankfully the mask trash has decreased considerably since then.

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CMCM's avatar

In the parking lot at a CA Trader Joe's yesterday, I saw a dirty white mask on the ground. It had tire marks on it, which seemed appropriate.

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The Fifster's avatar

Good They're TOXIC!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I got a bunch “ free” in the mail. I tested various household items. My mom ignored it but her boyfriend heard me.

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Lisa's avatar

What tested positive? My sister had tests from the "free Medicare" monthly kits that were all expired. The outside package was not expired, but the actual test inside were all expired.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

A tomato we grew on the lanai & some dog snot .

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆 Love this!

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Jenn's avatar

You should have swiped them all up, told them "thank you" with great zeal, and promptly thrown them away once you got home! 😂

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AJF's avatar

Exactly. Boost your immune system!

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J Kaz's avatar

Sun exposure especially at sunrise and sunset. Avoid blue light ( need blue blocking glasses) , exercise breath work and laugh a lot...

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WP William's avatar

plenty to laugh at that's for sure! and that is better for one's stress and disposition and relationships than anxiety and fuming about the mess of our world. I prefer cloudy gloomy days--too much cornea burning sunshine in the HIGHEST State in the nation

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PermieGeek's avatar

I was the one in stores in 2020 wearing blue blockers but no mask.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

If you wore a mask with glasses they would fog up! Then you couldn’t see or breath😎

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Ellie's avatar

Blue block glasses need not be expensive. There are inexpensive ones out there. Yellow or orange will do. They work great!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Yup

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Jessica Libolt's avatar

It’s a delicate balance...the inflammation is good because it means your immune system is functioning and trying to heal your body. But sometimes it gets overly aggressive and the inflammation/fever becomes problematic and makes you sicker or could even be deadly. Anti-inflammatories are way over-used but a blessing when needed!

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Annie Today and Tomorrow's avatar

Try "earthing" (or sleep grounded). Fixes me anytime I have an inflammation issue.

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WP William's avatar

Steroid and O2 saved one close to me from going to ER. Sure it gave them a nasty temper but worth it.

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AngelaK's avatar

What anti inflammatory?

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rolandttg's avatar

Germ theory, upon which allopathic medicine is predicated, is just plain wrong. Pasteur admitted as much on his death bed. Just as you can't distinguish between different types of flu or colds (coronaviruses), the same is cancer. Cancer is cancer. There is no stomach cancer, liver cancer , pancreatic cancer. Real doctors will tell you this. What the Rockefeller doctors call different cancers is merely the number of non cancer cells that are found in the tumor. for example, ~50 % of a kidney cancer are white blood cells. The ration differs in other places. The cancer cells? Still the same cancer cells. But hey, you get to "develop" different chemo poisons for all thse not different cancers. $$$.

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Albert Steed's avatar

100% onboard with this.

You can feel your body grinding to a halt before symptoms arrive.

When you feel it, stop and rest.

It’s not a virus. It’s your body healing.

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

Dr Berg has a free course about the immune system online. I thought I was pretty up to snuff on how it works til I watched one of his videos the other day (a rabbit hole I went into due to a suggestion from another C&C poster). You’ll find a link here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RHjX7A02rqc

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WP William's avatar

ok so the world experienced a sudden and mass of severe symptoms caused by poor diet and lifestyle? It was some form of Weaponized easily transmissible pathogen that much was clear. Viral, bacterial, inorganic, chem-trail additive, or transmutational UFO-induced perhaps but it was intentional and effective and even healthy young persons with active lifestyles were at times profoundly negatively impacted.

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Tucson Tanya's avatar

I researched the mRNA drug modality exhaustively in late 2020; I found no mRNA modality based drug cleared Phase3 clinical trials. Most common reasons for failing were, wait for it.... waning efficacy and excessive immunostimulation.

The majority of drugs in trial were for rabies, a virus, and then many blood cancers.

Ergo, the notation that 'Nobody Knew' is evidence of bold face lying by medical/pharma and or nobody paying a lick of attention to nearly 30yrs of Ph1, Ph2 and Ph3 clinical trials for mRNA modality drugs... cause we all know or could easily figure out that rabies and blood cancers don't carry SPIKE protein😉

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Jeff C's avatar

Anybody who spent ten minutes searching pubmed would have found the inherent safety problems with the mRNA technology, it was well documented going back a decade. The original intent was to use mRNA as a targeted treatment for those with genetic disorders or other ailments where inducing the body to produce a protein would be beneficial. That was abandoned as repeated doses were too toxic, so they went with vaccines as it was supposed to be one and done.

The choice to use the spike protein as the antigen was downright criminally negligent (or perhaps just criminal). It was widely known back in May 2020 that the spike was what made covid so harmful, it was no secret. Yet despite numerous surface proteins that could have been used, they all chose the most toxic part. And they used the toxic spike without any modification to detoxify it. This is mind boggling. Traditional vaccines like a tetanus shot use the toxin, but it's modified first using formaldehyde to render it safer. Nothing like that was done here.

Then on top of that, due to stabilizing the mRNA with pseudouridine, it doesn't break down like normal mRNA and there's no way to turn it off. The CDC's website said the body would degrade it within days or hours (as normal mRNA does) but that turned out to be an outright lie, it persists for at least 60 days, likely far longer.

All of this stuff was well known by late 2020 and *anyone* could have found it spending an hour or two on duck duck go. I found it, many of you likely did also. Yet the entire medical establishment refused to do this simple due diligence while compelling their patients to take it. Then they lie and claim "nobody knew". We knew. They didn't know because they chose not, and harmed millions in the process. Never again.

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Joni's avatar

I too found the same information. Also that pregnant women should NOT take the jab, but too many doctors are pushing it with no research on their part and mothers and babies are dying in droves. It’s a great country we live in where you can no longer trust the majority of doctors and hospitals and can count on the fact that if you have covid or are suspected of it, they WILL kill you if you give them the chance with Remdesivir and ventilators, plus they will starve you and dehydrate you!!! Malpractice was legalized by our federal government and they were paid handsomely to do it!!!! If you want to die, by all means put your trust in them and question nothing! I learned young that most of them don’t have a clue about what they tell you to do. The majority are all brainwashed students who never researched anything on their own. I told my mom this morning that there is nothing coming out of the mouths of most hospitals that is truthful about what they have been saying! The fact that every doctor pushed the jabs shows how ignorant they are!

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daverkb's avatar

Yes, they will do it for money. And no different from the grifters in government and the corporations. And the devil with how many will have to die in order to make a buck.

Money and power before God. This is how all the fake governments and their grifters various and sundry work. And now we reap the whirlwind.

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Sharon Wood's avatar

Also, the LNP (lipid nano particle) was utilized to encapsulate the SP so that it would escape the immune system’s normal preventive measure. I think this is what Dr. Yeadon said.

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Tucson Tanya's avatar

Yes, the pseudouridine is critical as it keeps the mRNA bio-available longer...longer like nobody apparently knows, it varies between individuals and no doubt varies based on how much rna was in the shot - as we've learned the manufacturing side of the jabs left much to be desired.

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Jeff C's avatar

Yes, hot lots are very real. It looks to me that due to shoddy manufacturing a very large percentage of the shots were duds (thank goodness) which is likely why many people seem to have suffered no ill effects.

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AM's avatar

Yes I have multiple extended family members for whom this is the case.

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AM's avatar

Jeff C I didn’t even have to go as far as you did (good for you) to know it was a scam and potentially dangerous. Have watched the pediatric and pet vaccine industry for far too long to trust any surface level proclamations about safety or efficacy.

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J Boss's avatar

Did you know ALL high risk groups were specifically excluded from the bioweapons trials? Even women considering becoming pregnant were excluded. And yet doctors everywhere pushed it. Criminal negligence at a minimum if I'm ever on a jury.

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Ellie's avatar

*And they used the toxic spike without any modification to detoxify it. This is mind boggling.* And it didn’t degrade rapidly! Pure poison. And pure evil.

I couldn’t agree more. Great summary!

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rolandttg's avatar

the normies who failed, and even refused to do this, are criminally negligent in my book for anyone they got jabbed on their watch ie, children and elderly parents. Kill yourself if you want, but there is no excuse for how cavalier they were with the lives of people who relied on them and trusted them.

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WP William's avatar

Cult followers unaware and in denial that they are members and willing slaves of the Cult

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WP William's avatar

They ALL knew and are murderous Freaks; it was intentional depopulation and culling of humanity PART II of the CoVid Weapon plan and we all know how very sincere virtuous good people are and we ALL know how very depraved, conniving, vicious and unmerciful people are who have given their souls to evil and wickedness and cruelty. It's obvious that the Vaxx pushers are EVIL or agents of EVIL who go along with things as they deny EVIL and its force and activity and intent. They do its bidding as if by doing so they will erase its evil intent and results. They blame any who challenge the Evil and their own role as being crazy a very manipulated Cult-follower that denies there even is a Cult at all.

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Dawn B's avatar

Yes - ALL TRUE... AND, if doctors didn't know, then they should have because it is their JOB to KNOW. Meanwhile, a normal person like me would question and research and find that ALL jabs are BAD. They ALL contain aborted baby fetal cancer cells not to mention that they have never actually worked. I believe that the Spanish Flu wasn't even a flu but a bacteria given to us though a vax and that was in the 1920's thanks to Rockefeller and his petroleum based meds...and it continues today. There could be very helpful meds but they pollute them all for more profit.

They make us sick with polluting chemicals in food and water so we have to take meds. For instance, would you want to have a root canal or a tooth pulled without Novacaine?

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J Boss's avatar

Bioweapons attack lead by the US DoD.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

In 2009 I applied for a clinical trial for lymphoma, a blood cancer. I didn't meet the trial criteria and was not admitted. The trial was for a vaccine (mrna). It was later shut down due to excess deaths. Hmmmm....🤔🤔🤔

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Tucson Tanya's avatar

Thank you for speaking out! Glad you weren't accepted into that trial. Someone 👆 had other (living) plans for you 😉

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The mRNA vaccine trials for years kept ending in failures from all the animal test subjects continuously not surviving.

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Raptor's avatar

Very Neo-like bullet dodging Pat. SOMEONE's lookin out for ya.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I think so too. But I wish I knew where I was going!!!!! Whatever, it's all a grand adventure!

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Raptor's avatar

Well Pat you are (and we all are) going to one of two places (once we pass from here). You will either live eternally in heaven- the place where God (our creator) and His son (our savior) are. Or. You will (because of unrepentant sin) in the everlasting torment and punishment, separated from your creator God and His son) eternally. Hell. A place of eternal regret.

I am not at all trying to be mean or glib or haughty. In fact if it sounds like any of those things, I would happily talk with you about how I come to that binary result and how you might be in the heaven group It is just the truth. I solemnly and earnestly hope you are on the grandest, eternal journey with me. If you don't know which place you will go, then it is the latter. Ugh. So no "whatever". If you want to talk about it, send me a reply and we can chat via email.

Best of luck in your treatments, your health and your grand journey here. Obviously you are meant to be here still for a reason! Otherwise you'd be on that trial.

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AngelaK's avatar

The worse thing any of us can think is that we are good people. We may be polite or kind or compassionate but we all sin everyday. For only God is good and without sin.

That is why our path to salvation is a continuous process of self analysis, repentance and confession. Aside from that all we can do is pray: Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner. 🙏 (Ancient Christoan prayer)

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Raptor's avatar

Thank you for adding that. Very well said.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

You misread my post a bit. I just said that life is an adventure. No mention of where one heads after this, although I expect great things!

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Raptor's avatar

Well! I hope you will receive great things Pat! As far as life's adventure hope you go out and grab the adventure you want. Sorry for the misunderstanding. : )

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow!!

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MaryAnn's avatar

I tossed myself into the mrna jab trial ring (temporary insanity) but was not accepted. I attribute it to God’s grace In protecting me from my misguided altruism.

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Chevrus's avatar

I encountered similar research based evidence when I looked into the mechanism of these so-called vaccines in under one hour, it was pretty clear to me that there was no way I would be taking any of these shots not that I would’ve considered it in the first place

My mind wanders back to 2008 when the controlled financial demolition occurred

I believe the expression ‘nobody ever could have known ‘ was used in order to defuse blame

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RunningLogic's avatar

“I believe the expression ‘nobody ever could have known ‘ was used in order to defuse blame”

Oh totally. Of course they’re trying to make it seem unexpected because otherwise, if the compliant people realize they knew all along about the dangers, the pitchforks might come out!

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PermieGeek's avatar

Even Wikipedia in 2020 didn’t say anything positive about mRNA. When I heard “safe and effective” my mind always translated to “safe as compared to what? and effective at what?”

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Annie's avatar

I am triggered. Lol 😉 Wow! The narrative has almost changed completely. I am looking forward to seeing how the compliant at work will handle it. Advil for covid 🤯 Not paxlovid for covid!? OMG! How is a compliant supposed to act, feel, think or virtue signal? 🤔

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Betsy Frost's avatar

Ha...the next thing you know they will be recommending IVM for any type of respiratory virus. From my anecdotal use, it works, when started early, to lessen symptoms and shorten duration. I've used it for both a suspected case of flu and a cold.

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Annie's avatar

I am triggered. Lol 😉

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Probably putting nano tech in the ivermectin now. The ones I got in the past were from a compounding pharmacy. I’m going to have to talk to my pharmacist about it now.

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J Boss's avatar

Quercetin. You can make it at home. It's the original IVM.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Grapefruit and lemon rinds!

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devoalan's avatar

They're called clabs, a twist on collaborators.

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Annie's avatar

I get it. I like compliant as it suggest no backbone or timidly going along with whoever is leading.

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Tucson Tanya's avatar

For fun.. or a bummer-history-repeating-rhyming, check out 'Mitläufer 1930s Germany'

The compliant, the clabs, the sheeple, they can be called the 21st century Mitläufer

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RunningLogic's avatar

The go along to get alongs 😕

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SB's avatar

Exactly and I heard from multiple sources that all the animals in the trials always died. They've been working on mRNA for decades and couldn't get it approved until covid and now they are trying to put it in all kinds of meds. Aren't they putting it in flu shots now, too? I can't decide if it is all over money or just pure evil, probably both, get their population control under way and make a fortune while at it. Do you think they figured out yet that most of the people dying are their voters?

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Lisa's avatar

My Dr. and my sister's MS specialist both casually threw out that the Shingrix shot used mRNA. Does anyone know if that is true? We are both against anymore shots so figure this is the new talking point that physicians are trying out.

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Tucson Tanya's avatar

Not today, but they advised they are working on it

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J Boss's avatar

Fauci's website had the study report on the last trial of an mRNA vaccine conducted prior to the bioweapons attack. Done in 2012 at UTMB in Galveston, TX. Halted early due to safety concerns. So ask yourself, why was the last trial completed in 2012 if it was safe and effective and ended early due to safety concerns?

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MaryAnn's avatar

The jabbing was a clinical trial of global proportions. A trial for what we may actually never know. It may have been proven a success for population reduction.

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eyes open's avatar

Good news: the America haters (us women’s soccer team) are out of the tournament after losing to Sweden. Great way to start the day.

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SB's avatar

And Rapinoe is the one who missed the penalty kick. Karma really is a witch sometimes... what a great way for her to go off into retirement. Don't let the ball hit you in the back on the way out! I haven't been exactly cheering for other teams but I haven't exactly been cheering for them either. I do feel kinda bad for the ladies who really just want to play soccer and have to put up with all the garbage. Now that Rapinoe is gone, maybe someone rational can reclaim the team...

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Annie's avatar

They are playing? So not on my radar. Could care less.

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eyes open's avatar

I care because they will be deprived of one more chance to display their disgusting attitude and ingratitude to our nation.

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Juliann's avatar

Your comments never disappoint! The Blue one did stop me from eating tuna??? Subs.

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rolandttg's avatar

Most excellent. If there has ever been a more unlikeable team anywhere, I am not aware of it, and I used to be a huge sports fan. They define "no class", not to mention utterly despicable day after day behavior.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Three beautiful young women stood 👏🏻 Hooray for them. Boos to the others.

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FourWinds's avatar

I love my American teams but these nasty things deserved to lose. Good for them!

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

That’s ok. Most of us don’t care.

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Satchmo RIP's avatar

Think we underestimate the Media and American people. Just pull out of Ukraine like Afghanistan and then don’t talk about it. It all goes into the either like Hong Kong, Afghanistan, Fast and Furious, East Palestine, Defund the Police, Lockdowns, Illegal Crossings, Purdue Pharma, Sex Trafficking, Epstein, Durham Report, Shutdown Ballot Counting in Four States at the same time, J6 prisoners,...

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Good round up list.

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Steve S6's avatar

How are mRNA vaccines and Communism alike?

Nobody has done them right yet.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I am half way through Dissolving Illusions...wow..I had no idea people protested back that far. this book leaves me almost speechless.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I listened to the audio version of that and also of Inventing the AIDS Virus by Dr. Peter Duesberg on a long car trip a year or so ago. It crumpled me internally. There was a problem at my destination as well, so on the whole it was a long, depressing episode.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Oh good wording...I had to stop listening for awhile because it had me as in your words...'crumpled internally.' reminds me of listening to Asperger's Children. So truly depressing.

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TT's avatar

If you like that book, you’ll probably like The Poisoned Needle as well.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Hahahaha, 'liked' is a funny way to put it😏. Necessary, useful, needed, relevant. I am so disturbed by all of it, and also that the medical profession in general have not read these papers and journals and writings as a part of their research for their job. They work on people with surface information without digging to the bottom.

I have never had an answer to the small pox scenario until now. Turtles book will be next and then the poisoned needle.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I know! I recommend that book to everyone. Especially when they say, “But Polio...”.

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

Try reading “Extortion”, by Peter Schweitzer”. It’s another tone of those eye opening facts about America books.

My poor pre-teen grandchildren. They’re always telling me their dreams about being a doctor, cop, or a joining the Air Force or the army, and I’m always ruining their dreams by telling them not to do it - as their systems leaders are all corrupt.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I will write that down also. Some of the very best books for learning about govt., Law, money etc. Are the Richard Mayberry series. I have read them over and over. They are written so that young adults can understand. Very short chapters. so eye opening. The first book is called whatever happened to penny candy. he teaches about common law and how this country began. he emphasizes how the founding fathers did NOT want a democracy. " Two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner" they are really good.

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

we love the Marbury books!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Yeah!!!! Another Mayberry fan.

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Fla Mom's avatar

You win the internet today!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ooh I love that!! 😆😁

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Raptor's avatar

T-Shirt. Someone'll make some money.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh a bonus round up!!! What a treat!! Such a great start to my day! Thank you Jeff, you’re the best!! 🤩

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Shelly S's avatar

On the “admission”, aka CYA deception, regarding the jab, the problem I have now is such profound mistrust of the medical profession (and I’m a retired, multiple-vaccinated NP--although not the Covid jab, thank God) that I will probably die at home of something that would have been treatable by honorable medicine. I have no idea how to distinguish valid practitioners from bully-sheep, and don’t even get me started on “healthcare” institutions. Even when people are in a “caring” role, I personally have experienced aggressive behavior, i.e., “if you die of Covid, you asked for it”, -type comments. How could I feel comfortable trusting people with that attitude?

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Jkelly's avatar

Agree 100%. I am a physician and used to be proud to be part of what i thought was a noble profession. I never thought I would hear colleagues say if you are not vaxed you don't deserve healthcare.

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Copernicus's avatar

This (no vax no healthcare) was one of the most astounding statements I heard physicians making.

The sad and stunning realization that came of that was realizing that they've been primed to think this way for decades. Think of the pediatricians who refuse to see unV kids. The AAP provides special v refusal forms for physicians to have non-v parents sign, whereby parents are made to sign that they are leaving their children at risk of death by not injecting.

A friend took her unV child to ED for fever and was told he was going to have to get all kinds of extra tests, simply because he wasn't injected with the routine shots. Makes zero sense but is clear evidence of discrimination and bullying against unV people. There is no childhood v whose absence warrants extra testing. It's clinically obvious if a child has measles, or polio, or meningitis. If a lumbar tap is indicated for meningitis, it is indicated, regardless of v status, because there are myriad additional bugs not v related that can cause same conditions!

So this realization that we've all been being taken for a ride, for a long time, has been horrendous.

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PermieGeek's avatar

I had a pediatrician fire me for not vaxing my daughter when she was a baby 20 years ago

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Like saying “ Sorry folks but if you aren’t willing to take a chance that you could become permanently injured or worse, then we can’t help you.”

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RunningLogic's avatar

I hear you. It’s felt like a huge betrayal on the part of so many in positions of trust. The only thing I can say is, look for functional medicine practitioners and those who didn’t follow the narrative.

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Shelly S's avatar

I am looking, no luck so far. Smaller community. I see a naturopath, but she doesn’t practice in the hospital. Now, with “hospitalists” running the inpatient show, I totally do NOT trust inpatient care.

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Copernicus's avatar

I know, me too. It is a very discouraging place to be finding oneself.

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Annie Today and Tomorrow's avatar

Alternative medicine doctors aren't covered by insurance, they are outside the medical industrial complex.

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Shelly S's avatar

Aka, the sheep pen.

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Jaci's avatar

But, of course, insurance does not cover functional medicine providers.

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Shelly S's avatar

Nor alternative treatments, even medications, like HCQ or Ivermectin...

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RunningLogic's avatar

Also true. It can be a barrier.

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Jaci's avatar

Nope...no trust there! I had been told by multiple kidney doctors there is nothing that can be done to improve kidney function. Mmmmm, no mention of oxalates or Rowanatexie.

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

Please elaborate.

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Jaci's avatar

Rowatinex...on Amazon, if that is what you are referring to

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Ellie's avatar

I did a quick search and didn’t anything.. What is Rowanatexie?

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Ellie's avatar

There was a rare breed of doctor who could navigate the allopathic healthcare system while still having an open mind to food, supplements, and natural remedies, etc. Those doctors have been weeded out the system during the Plandemic.

They have left for other places or retired or just been pushed out, but they are OUT. What’s even more scary that there’s none left in the healthcare systems. There are only compliant drones left in the system. Just what State wanted.

*posted to the wrong comment at first and moved it*

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I hear you!!! No trust. Not sure why I ever did in the first place.

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Runemasque's avatar

What do you guys think of these new and growing subscriber networks like Peter McCullough's The Wellness Company? It doesn't have specialists yet, but, if it did become its own institution with more services, is it the kind of alternative that you want?

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Shelly S's avatar

Maybe/probably.....I believe in running my health decisions through the sieve of common sense and my own look at all sides of data, not just swallowing the interpretation of others. I would definitely be more likely to use flccc-type institutions, but would have to look at their practice patterns and protocols. Now that we’re seeing bickering and cross accusations between alternative “big names”, I think we have to stay alert in all areas. Overall, God is my Physician, and I’m not going to live one minute longer or shorter than He says, and I’m good with that. I just try to be as wise as I can be with the wits He gave me.

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Christy's avatar

Natural or homeopathic practices are springing up all over bc these nurses and doctors see through the BS. I hope you find one!

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Copernicus's avatar

But these folks are inaccessible from inside a hospital.

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RunningLogic's avatar

True. I think the idea of making an alternative care network needs to happen.

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daverkb's avatar

This is how totally a degenerate system boxes people in once the corruption becomes institutionalized habitual lying, deception, all out dissembling.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

That Clifton Oliver story hit home particularly hard because it could have been Clifton Duncan had he not had the courage to say NO, which has had painful consequences for him but better than ending up SADS:

• “A Brutally Honest Update” (https://cliftonduncan.substack.com/p/brutally-honest-update)

The news about the Ukraine war narrative pivot is thrilling, and it echoes the trajectory of the public’s declining approval for Vietnam, which only happened after the media started telling the truth—thanks in enormous part to the most famous whistleblower and recently departed Daniel Ellsberg. Dan leaked “The Pentagon Papers” to key journalists, risking up to 115 years in prison to stop the Vietnam War.

At a press conference, when reporters asked if he had any regrets, Daniel replied:

“I can’t regret having done what I knew at the time to be what I ought to do, my duty as a citizen.… How can you measure the jeopardy that I’m in—whether it’s 10 years, 20 years, 115 years, or other ludicrous amounts like that—to the penalty that has been paid already by 50,000 American families here and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese families? It would be absolutely presumptuous of me to pity myself in that context, and I certainly don’t, and I’d be ashamed of myself [if I did].”

I share the story of Ellsberg’s courageous actions in this piece:

• “Ode to a Whistleblower” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/ode-to-a-whistleblower)

Diane Perlman, a dear friend of Dan’s, asked me to create a video for “Ode to a Whistleblower” to play at his tribute during the Whistleblower Summit on National Whistleblower Day:

• “Ode to a Whistleblower (Video Tribute to Daniel Ellsberg)” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/ode-to-a-whistleblower-video-tribute)

My hope is that people can use this video and my poem to help embolden other prospective whistleblowers to come forward and do their own part to help end bloodshed, corruption, and crimes against humanity.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ellsberg’s words—just wow. Very courageous and inspiring.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Absolutely. He helped inspire Diane Perlman's Theory of the Courageous Personality, which I also share in the first post (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/ode-to-a-whistleblower).

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Kelly's avatar

The 1st link is only readable to subscribers. I didnt try the others.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Yes, I think Clifton's posts are set to flip to paid-only after 7 days. It's too bad because it was a powerful post describing the difficulties he has faced for refusing to comply. He went from a having a highly successful acting career to waiting tables. His Mises Institute talk is available and well-worth a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCH_8KtLeVQ

The others are at my Stack and available for free.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Why did the FDA suddenly decide that RDAs for nutrients like Vitamins C, D, etc, don't matter anymore? Suddenly, according to the FDA, nutrition is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to human health.

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Annie's avatar

That's how you know doctors are full of crap. I had one say "you get everything you need in your diet." I scoffed and said " the American diet? Do you really believe that?" Needless to say my comment was ignored and I am sure I had some reference in my medical records as a difficult person. 😅

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well yes and honestly it depends on so many things, even when you eat a good diet. As a runner, I actually lose iron because of my distance running and so have to supplement. There is no way I could get enough from my diet to make up for it.

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Annie's avatar

Exactly. 💯

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Christy's avatar

I call it farmacy. Eat from farmers not the grocery stores

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Copernicus's avatar

Maybe call it farmery. Like grocery. Haha. Avoid the association w pHarma.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

It's the statement that maybe we do not need their "services." So yeah, it gets a bad response if any.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They always had such hilarious takes on random daily life experiences!! 🤣😆

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Annie's avatar

I loved that episode. Nowadays I would view getting black balled by AMA as a badge if honor. 😅

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Tucson Tanya's avatar

We know the reason.

We are living in sin and most people don't want to acknowledge or admit that... we've banished or rejected God from life. We begged for mortal kings to rule over us, God warned that wouldn't be wise, yet conceded. And for 6,000 years people have taken advantage of people with some of the worst offensives by those in power.

You're eyes are open- that's great!!

Keep the Faith 🙏 Hold the Line ✝️

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daverkb's avatar

You said it larger statement correct. "Living in sin and not wanting to acknowledge it", this is true ... and there are lobbies total anathema to Biblical law which are not only allowed but are actively encouraged.

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Jaci's avatar

As are natural cures...all God given remedies are far superior to man's attempts at healing. They destroy their money grabbing if they actually heal. It is just an endless cycle of treatment failure!

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

Like I tell my friends, all medicines come from a plant, animal, or mineral that God made. Let us look first to those things before substances that are made by drug companies that share one thing in common: guilty verdicts for fraud, negligence, and intentional harm.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Obesity is also now 'body shaming' so we don't speak ill about being fat.

Etc.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Oh, and I identify as someone who hates them all;-) MY proper pronoun is "hater of bad things."

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Soon the term "serial killer" (as in Fauci) will be considered hate speech. We will be told they are sensitive and we must call them "homicidally challenged" (or just "special") so as not to hurt their "fealers." And besides, they might identify as Mother Theresa, so....

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Cyn's avatar

No $$ in nutrition!

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

There is some $$ in supplements that enhance health. But there is REALLY BIG $$$ in disease and MURDER these days.

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Tardigrade's avatar

That's actually nothing new. I once had a doctor tell me that what you eat has absolutely nothing to do with your health.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Yeah, it's right up there with: "What I INJECT into your body can NEVER hurt you."

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LogicFirst's avatar

Seriously? Can you provide a link? I haven’t seen any of this.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

I'm talking about the fact their covid hospital protocols forbade the use of NUTRITIONAL supplements, even denying patients food and hydration as they died from the chemical "treatments."

I just find it interesting that the FDA refuses to admit that a lack of proper nutrition can increase the odds of dying from a "virus." It contradicts their RDA crap, because on the one hand they tell us there actually is some minimum, but on the other hand, they refuse to admit that proper nutrition can both prevent and cure "infectious disease."

Their only "solutions" are deadly drugs and jabs.

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RSgva's avatar

The Pharma industry has been angling to get rid of competition from the supplements industry by pushing FDA to regulate it.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

And now the new (and exclusive) goal is simply to MURDER US.

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Annie's avatar

They are or have already been restricted in new Zealand. Can't have people thinking and supporting their own good health.

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Raptor's avatar

During COVID the government strongly urged sellers of NAC (N-acetylcysteine) to stop selling it (Amazon did) and urged making NAC only available by prescription. They also laughed at the urging of some to take vitamin D3. They performed poorly structured studies to prove D3 was useless. Hospitals across America prevented doctors from administering high dose vitamin C to patients in their care for COVID. I think Paul Marek got dinged for it. I could be wrong on the doc. Anyway some eventually started dosing with C. When trying to find an article I found this: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-myths/art-20485720

Note the wording on some bullet points.

There is no money to be made from vitamins. They might enhance health. Can't have that. Money is made off the sick.

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FourWinds's avatar

That figures.

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Blair's avatar

I don't think the regime is very concerned about what voters think.

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Annie's avatar

Agree. They are only going through the motions of an "election. " Can't say I don't understand since they easily managed to scamdemic 65% of the country. Why give 2 craps about them? Spike proteins are working. Not saying I agree but if I was tptb, I get it.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thanks for the Sunday treat!

“Somebody should tell the forever-maskers”

I feel somewhat guilty and mean about this but will admit it anyway. I saw 2 people go into a store the other day eith those ridiculous penguin-like masks on and I laughed out loud. I did feel mean but oh, it was so cathartic

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RunningLogic's avatar

I roll my eyes and laugh too. Maybe not loudly but it is hard to stop myself. Maybe a little ridicule will make them start to question things. And if not, turnabout is fair play right? 😑 They certainly didn’t hesitate to ridicule US!!

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Christy's avatar

I look at them and laugh. Can’t even help it.

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Michele's avatar

I work a farmer's market occasionally near Santa Cruz (aka Portland-lite) and let me tell you it is incredible, how many people there are still masking. Because I love the farm I work for I won't be rude to the maskers in that venue, but in my head, oh, the pity, the disgust, the irritation, and yes, the fury.

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

I have made my fair share of jokes and shared memes about maskers, but, I try to have mercy on them for being blind to the truth. I imagine their consuming fear of dying and pity them for lacking the confidence that I have in knowing I’m not destined to die not knowing where I’ll go, and that God will guide my family in the right direction after I leave.

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SoundTruth LightLoveConnection's avatar

I wonder how many mask wearers might be paid agitators or angry and defiant people who wear the masks just to be assholes (or because they actually believe their cause is “winning” or they have lost the plot. )

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Oh my gosh, no wonder I love this group. I did the same thing. I feel so much better knowing I'm normal in my disgust of masks.

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Rick Kaullen's avatar

There’s more to the COVID vaccine limited hangout than it appears.

-Why do we NEVER hear about the fact that the “vaccine” is actually Gene Therapy that has been being developed for decades by the U.S. DOD?

-Why do we not hear about the purchase orders for the gene therapy “vaccines” being placed by the DOD?

-Why are the NIH, CDC, FDA and Big Pharma acting as Fronts for the DOD?

-Why do we not hear about the fact that the mRNA vaccines are really modRNA that allows the vaccines to replicate within the body for an unknown length of time?

-Why do we not hear about the toxic ingredients contained within the Lipid Nano Particles (LNP) which deliver the vaccine contents to the cells and can cross the blood-brain barrier?

These are just a few questions that are being ignored to cover for the unseen actors who directed this global disaster.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well we hear about those things just not from the traditional media.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Assuming a "Twitch streamer" knows how to read, can you imagine the riot that would have ensued if Kai had offered free books to the maroons in his mob? Nope, neither can I.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

That any one thought they win and walk away with the prize...🤦🏻‍♀️ Dumb and Dumber! Who's the fool?

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😂 I was starting to take a sip of my coffee when I read your post and almost spit it out from how hard your comment made me laugh! Great point! 😁

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Annie Today and Tomorrow's avatar

I have to ask, did you use the term "maroons" literally?

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Roger Beal's avatar

Nope, just quoting Bugs Bunny.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Bugs Bunny is the best!! 😁

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Raptor's avatar

I was at the doctor's office this week for blood testing. We got to discussing COVID deaths in the practice. I won't go into detail of how that went, but I found it revelatory. BUT I asked him how many deaths from flu they had. None.

The delusion is real my awake friends.

Total aside: He also tried to tell me my total cholesterol was high and LDL was high and therefore... statin. I countered that my triglycerides are very low and HDL is very high and the ratio of the two indicates good health. He also was perplexed by my low BP and heart rate. I don't rely on him for medical advice, just a blood draw.

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Sharon Wood's avatar

I have the same kind of numbers you have HDL, low triglycerides, 240 cholesterol & low blood pressure at 65 yo. The papers said I have a 2.2% chance of a heart attack in the next 10 years. So why all this extra paper work for only a 2.2% risk?? Maybe, Documentation to discipline docs who don’t tow the party line when my numbers get higher they will have to recommend to me statins. I lost 12 lbs recently so my cholesterol should be lower too. I can’t stand the feelings I get when I go to Dr. I only need them when I have a REAL problem which has been almost NEVER so far!

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Raptor's avatar

I think they are either incurious about what I think is incredibly fascinating (info from blood) or they are (more likely) in a hurry and look for the thing that falls out of range and pull the script pad out. My doc doesn't even care if you fast before blood work. More statins to prescribe then. EVERY time he is concerned about 92/60 BP. But I feel great. So... he remains concerned. Maybe I should give up exercise and gain some weight. LOL

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Sharon Wood's avatar

Mine is a tad higher, 102/66 or slightly less. Yes, its all about prescribing meds. Docs too often are “vending machines” for big pharma. Its really disgusting. Just hope I don’t have to be in a hospital bc I will be a bit terrified of what they will do to me or not do!

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RunningLogic's avatar

They nearly always seem to be incurious!! They never seem to want to know what the root cause might be. They don’t care about the “why” part of it. That’s what I find incredibly frustrating about most doctors.

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Heather's avatar

What gets me is doctors hate when we do our own Internet searches because we aren’t doctors and aren’t able to take into account all the variables and come to proper conclusions (or something like that), yet I consider them technicians because they put in symptoms or possibly a diagnosis and are told by their computer screens what to prescribe. Throughout the Covid years, I’ve resolved to never visit a doctor again (although I will see alternative care doctors and chiropractors too)

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know, God forbid you try to figure out what might be going on with your own body 🙄

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Fla Mom's avatar

Quest Labs allows people to self-order medical tests. I'm not sure how it might work with insurance, but it might be worth it anyway.

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Raptor's avatar

I'm glad you mentioned them. I ordered a D3 (or just D?) test from an independent lab a couple years ago. My doc said no. Insurance didn't cover it.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I like the idea of ordering it in the winter, when I'm not in the sun as much. I double my Vit D in the winter, but like to know if that's enough.

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Raptor's avatar

Take vitamin D3 with vitamin K2 and take them both after you have a meal with fat. K2 plus D3 is mainly for bone density. The two act to get minerals into the bones better. Important if you are post menopausal.

Nix the sunscreen where you can during the summer. It keeps you from absorbing D3 from the sun.

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