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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

The media is of course ignoring the biggest bombshell from yesterday: Senator Ron Johnson holding up a VAERS report admitting 30k died worldwide right away or within two days of getting a Covid shot. Absolute crickets!!

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Carrie's avatar

I’m constantly reminded of how strong the vaccine cult is. No one is banning vaccines… these cultists absolutely lose their minds when people are restored their God given free choice of what to put in their bodies.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

They're for sexual choice, abortion choice, etc. . . . but not shots. Seems somewhat psychotic.

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LMWC's avatar

They completely ignored the abortion rights mantra, “my body, my choice”, when it came to the death shots called vaccines.

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Lori's avatar

Time for us to hold signs saying My Body, My Choice, No Jabs!

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Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

I'm in!

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David Nelson's avatar

(Underneath "...and Your Body can Kiss MY Body's A**!")

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Maxstirner's avatar

I am literally making a t-shirt. Thanks for the inspiration <3

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shibumi's avatar

To me, it's all about fear of death. Specifically, their own death.

They don't care about the death of an unborn child.

However, they do care if they could *possibly* die from some sort of hyped up virus. So EVERYONE has to play along with their fantasy that the death jabs, masking and social distancing with keep them SAFE and NOT DEAD.

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Tio Nico's avatar

If they'd do a bit of research they would know bout the "adjuvants" put into almost ALL vaccines... containing mecury and/or aluminium, which metals are solidly connected with the class of diseases known as "prion" diseases.. Lou Gherig's, Pakinsons, Alzheimers, etc. they might take anothe look at the MANDATE aspect of the vaccine industry. The correlation is amazingly high.

Take them if you want, but NO WAY can you dictate that I take them. My body my choice? Yeah. ,

ALL Kennedy is doing is restoring MY right to decide. What these eedjits fail to recall is that the Neuenburg Comvention, to which the US is signatory, mandates that I have final authority on what medical procedures and products I take. And just to make sure, our government enacted the provisions of Nuremburg into fed law.. I think its 142 USC. In case the Euro nuts rescind Nurenburg re

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shibumi's avatar

If you look up Walter M Chesnut on X, he's talked quite a bit about prion disease.

BTW... if you want to get your pet vaxxed, you can get an unadjuvated version of some of them. I believe the brand name is Purevax.

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rolandttg's avatar

I think it goes deeper than that. communists actually want to be told what to do, what to say, and what to think.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, and the DoD, Pfizer, and Pfauci are responsible for creating a nation of psychotics with a ridiculous level of fear of illness, ruining lives for power and profit.

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Leo's avatar

I agree. "Safe" is the money word.

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Garden Lover's avatar

A friend of mine has rabid TDS and is all gaga over Newscum because “anyone is better than Trump. My daughter and I can’t move to half of the country because we wouldn’t be able to get our health needs covered.” What she’s talking about is probably abortion and getting clot boosters.

As you may have guessed, she’s all for mandating vaccines. So, while she claims to be for health freedom, she’s not… at… all.

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rolandttg's avatar

It all makes sense once you realize one of the non negotiable attributes of being accepted as a 'tard is being a hypocrite.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Their reply to that is always “ because vaccines are for the good of society “…Don’t shoot the messenger:)

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RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

Psycho indeed. Non-functioning logic. One that always puzzled me was how people who abhor the idea of GMO corn say “trust the science” when it comes to injecting their own bodies

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shibumi's avatar

Oh, don't even go into the non-functioning logic.

I know someone who "eats clean." Super health-conscious Boomer. No red meat, locally grown produce, composts in her yard and so forth. You know the type. Granola Karen.

She is 1000% pro-death jab and is proud of the fact that our "scientists" can come up with a "vaxx" in mere months that will cure a new disease.

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Mitch's avatar

She also never looks into the studies done for the vaxx. She trusts the media headlines to tell the truth as to what they showed.

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STH's avatar

It’s because many are lunatic hypochondriacs and they’re terrified the unvaxxed will pass something on to them or their children.

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Mayor's avatar

If a person thinks the shots work and will protect them, then they should get the shots. Then, they will be “protected” and shouldn’t have to worry about others.

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STH's avatar
Sep 5Edited

I agree, but having a sister who is a said lunatic leftist, there’s just enough doubt that they want everyone else vaccinated too. Makes zero sense. She did say “what about the little babies who can’t get the MMR?” And she has a small point. But I feel if you’re worried STAY HOME. They had no problem telling us to stay home.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

little babies need our kiddie contagions to build hardy immunity.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

If I am vaccinated and allegedly protected from measles and I touch someone who is allegedly sick with measles and then touch the baby, why would I not still pass on the virus that is on my hands to the baby? The vaccine doesn't make viruses disappear. It's not a magic cloak that keeps me from passing on "germs" on my body to others. Of course, no one has ever isolated any measles virus so no one has even proven that there is a measles virus so how can you make a vaccine for something you've never seen? Answer: You can't. Your friend's point makes no sense at all.

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Janet's avatar
Sep 5Edited

We rarely see each other. She has carved off her family members from our family thanksgiving now because there are a few trump voters in the rest. So much my daughter and trans granddaughter left to go 50 miles to hang out there most of the day. They live 1000 miles away so frankly that hurt taking time from us. We’ve never discussed who I voted for. Nor anything else actually. I’m sure that lunatic Joy Reid told her she should do that last year. But I’m done ignoring the crap she says and the accusations. My door is closing soon on her hate.

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Peter GL's avatar

so I guess she is happy to give babies vaccines for STD! Where is the logic?

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David Nelson's avatar

STH, THIS!

"...STAY HOME. They had no problem telling us to stay home."

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Cousin Clem's avatar

Part of the dogma of the vaccine pushers is that you must take the jab so that grandma down the street, who, for some reason, can't take the jab is protected. Of course this makes absolutely no sense. If you believe vaccines work at all, they can never ever protect anyone but the person taking them. It doesn't magically transfer to others. The death of common sense.

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Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

There was a massive ad campaign “ protect Grandma” by getting your shot. This is part of the reason people believe the lie. I used to hear it on the radio every day on the way to work. I would abruptly turn off the radio when it came on because it irritated me so much. It ran for a good two years at least, well beyond when Rochelle Walensky infamously said under oath that the vaccine was never designed to prevent COVID or halt transmission, rather it was designed to decrease the likelihood of hospitalization and death. So who was funding the massive lying media campaign?

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David Nelson's avatar

"Tragically, the vaccine for Covid-19 resulted in the death of Common Sense. Future vaccines are already being prepared for the deaths of Societal Mores and Personal Inhibition. The Left Shall Rise Again!"

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shayne's avatar

That's just too logical for illogical people to take in 🤣

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MaryAnn's avatar

Ah Mayor—you are using logic and common sense. It does not work on the vax group. I tried. 😉

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Mitch's avatar

logic will have no impact on those minds.

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David Nelson's avatar

I like to practice the "5-Second Rule" from grade school in front of them: if something hits the ground, I pick it, up rub it on my filthy pants, blow hard on it, and pop it in to face my 70-something-immune system. ("I do it to honor my cavemen forbears...")

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PA's avatar

They don't have children. They are purely concerned about their life and their body and they don't believe in God or anything after this world so it terrifies them.

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Leo's avatar

PA, None of them have children? None of them believe in God??

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PA's avatar

I would say you’d be hard pressed to find many with children and if they do it would be one that they’re probably screwing up with gender dysphoria and probably have not a clue about the word of God, the books of the Bible, and what’s in them. But thanks for the clarification.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 5Edited

the lunatics have already passed something on to their children, poor fertility if they live long enough or a death sentence.

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RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

Really it’s deeper. I mean it is abject fear, for sure, but it’s also something more underhanded and a lot more twisted. Everyone knew it was a human created lab leak mega-bug, but nobody knew how much damage it would do. In which case the only comfort was maybe big momma government would figure out a solution and make the monster go away. The same logic that makes abused women and children cling to their abusers because the point of it all is power over the other.

few are strong enough to resist.

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

Vaccine worship is a cult. Peter McCullough and John Leake make it clear in their new book, "Vaccines ~ Mythology, Ideology, and Religion." Del Bigtree also did a great interview with them both on "The Highwire" a couple of weeks or so ago.

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Janet's avatar

I was in a mild religious cult for 25 yrs. I know about cults. Yes , vax AND the democrat party are cults. The same one.

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Jeff S's avatar

It is psycho...

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QuestionEverything's avatar

I wrote a book on this, Janice. (The Avocado Tree). In it, the women's best friend has an abortion after she begs her not to. Says she'll adopt her baby, but her friend has the abortion anyway - all my body, my choice. Then, years later, that same friend tells her to go to hell for being an anti-vaxxer and not getting the shot. Painfully close to reality. I've lost so many friends in recent years, I've lost count.

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Dena's avatar

Correction - left is not for abortion choice, only abortion. In their mind there’s no choice for life. Only pregnancy support centers council women on truth ( they have a life within them) & real choice. 88% who enter my local pregnancy support organization choose life.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

You are correct. They are pro-death. It is demonic.

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Kerrylee's avatar

It is the unfortunate influence of utilitarianism.

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Julinthecrown's avatar

Great point.

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BBS's avatar

Yes, no one is saying they can't sacrifice their children by giving them killer jabs or poison foods. But leave our kids alone.

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Juju's avatar

Exactly. I don’t recall it being possible AT ALL to get “in a timely manner” the IVM that I chose to take when I got Covid two years ago. Even a doctor prescription was denied at Walgreens when they found out it was for Covid. Their choices were FORCED onto everyone else and their kids.

We aren’t doing that here. They will not have to go through hell to get their precious vaccines. They just need to go to the doctor and have it prescribed. Easy peasy. God how I wish I had that ease when I was sick.

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shibumi's avatar

We went to the farm store. Got the horse paste. Found the dosing instructions. Stepson got sick Friday, gave him the horse paste Friday night, had another dose Sunday, back to work on Monday. "Delta" I believe.

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rolandttg's avatar

That horse paste (actually Safeguard/ Panacur) is what my wife swears did more to cure her cancer than anything else we did.

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shibumi's avatar

Locate The 2nd Smartest Guy in the World on substack. Lots and lots of stories about people cured of cancer with IVM and FenBen.

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MaryAnn's avatar

IVM and DMSO are getting some pub in the cancer cure arena.

Also, how about bee venom killing breast cancer? Go figure.

My mom died from pancreatic cancer in 1982. It is still as deadly now as it was then. All the money to American Cancer Society, etc and still nothing but chemo to show for it.

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Juju's avatar

Yeah that’s what I ended up doing. The compound pharmacies near us were charging over $30 per individual pill. So horse paste it was. I emptied my largest vitamin capsules and filled them with the paste so I could swallow them and not have to gag over taste. Worked like a charm. But you need 3x the weighted measured dose when you are symptomatic (for anyone wondering how to dose it out - preventative would be based on the weight on packaging, treatment is 3x that)

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David Nelson's avatar

...and that morning he ran the quarter-mile in record time. (Sorry, cheap joke.)

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Laura Scott's avatar

Walgreens also denied IVM for me and in TN is is over the counter- We kind of got into it ( I had a prescription). Now I get from a compound pharmacist

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Juju's avatar
Sep 5Edited

I’ve been ordering from India and Mexico 3-4x a year now and keep enough in stock should more than one of us get sick at same time.

For anyone that orders, note the following based on a study of effectiveness of different brands (study measured how quickly it killed parasites, which lends to quality of product…some took 11 days to kill so aren’t as good of a product.)

These were the top two brands that were most effective:

Veridex -highly effective kills in 2-days

Austro brand - highly effective kills in 3-days

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Would you provide more information, such as the website or phone number, of where you’re getting Ivermectin from? I’d like to have more on hand in case anyone in my extended family needs it. I can’t find the site where I last ordered it. Also do you have Mebendazole or Fenbendazole?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Veridex or Viridex? Spelling? 2nd Smartest ( I believe) offers the latter

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MaryAnn's avatar

I am hoping insurance won’t cover it, thus causing some dissonance on how badly they want to save gramma or get their nails done.

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Juju's avatar

🤣

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Tim R's avatar

It would be hilarious if Kennedy said all 72+ childhood jabs and C19 were mandated only for children of registered Democrats! Watch some heads explode.

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Lori's avatar

And that is the proper word. Sacrifice. Those poor children.

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shayne's avatar

Yes.

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David Nelson's avatar

...but really, Mr. Childers' earlier comparison should be kept in mind that ~ultimately~ Society has to come to its senses and say, "No, you may not even sacrifice your OWN children. They are Americans and they have rights."

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rolandttg's avatar

It is a sad fact so many kids have been damned through no fault of their own.

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David Nelson's avatar

It is one aspect of the human condition.

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Jeff Lynn's avatar

That stat would have been more devastating if it identified those that did NOT have COVID. Knowing how many died strictly because of the jab and which jab they got would put a hurt on big pharma.

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MayBella82's avatar

The number of death are people who just received the jab within 2 days… have nothing to do if they had COVID. I expect they didn’t because they would be isolated so not to spread it.

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Brenda Ping's avatar

And I would like to know how many were designated as “Covid death” that actually died as a result of a car accident or other diagnosed diseases. Then also how many were killed in the hospitals with remdesivir and ventilators!!

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David Nelson's avatar

Gaye, I want to add this to clarify: Howbad.info's headline is:

<quote> How Bad is My Batch Are some batches more toxic than others?

Associated deaths, disabilities and illnesses for Vaccines, Substances and Pharmaceutical Products ( © 2024 )

</quote>

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Gaye's avatar

What do you think? It’s my understanding that many were inert. Pfizer supposedly had about seven batches reserved for employees.

FF0884

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I have not attempted to verify.

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David Nelson's avatar

Gaye, I confess it is beyond the reach of my bias which holds that the only good batch is a discarded batch.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Isn't it interesting how God the Father gives everyone free will and requires each person to choose. Whereas, satan does everything he can to drag everyone into hell.

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Miss Rodeo's avatar

I wouldn’t describe it as interesting.

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Janet's avatar
Sep 5Edited

Maybe some need continuous IV drip vaccines or a pump attached to their hearts to drip Covid vax into them 24/7. What would we call the pump? 🤔.

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RK65's avatar

Followed this site for years and read all the links. It was a strategic spread of poison in you received the biological and of the placebo to offset numbers. VAERS was manipulated to hide true data and to this day the VA information is hidden. https://howbadismybatch.com

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Juju's avatar

Virtue Signaling Serum Treatment

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David Nelson's avatar

Eternal Nether End Metering Appliance

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Juju's avatar

🤣🤣 I see what you did there. Forms a nice acronym

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Lori's avatar

Get your mRNA jabs aka morgueRNA jabs right here folks. Step right up....

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Bitsy54's avatar

Death Drip

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

The ContinuVaxx pump. Guaranteed to be “safe and effective” 24/7 for the rest of your life or your money back! (Well, seeing as how your life would only last a few more minutes or days on the ContinuVaxx ….)🥴

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Peter Mac's avatar

How about simply "ConVax Pump"?

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Yes! That works! Because it’s all a giant con!

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CStone's avatar

The death pump or “PUMP the DEATH!!!

DP OR PtD….

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Lori's avatar

Fanatics are mentally ill and explains why they act the way they do.

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StrayCatPatterson's avatar

Let’s start naming it. “Oh, you’re one of those ‘My Body, Their Choicers.’” OR “Bodily Autonomy Deniers”

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

They probably view the "not mandating" or "recommending" as the beginning of a slippery slope. Think of it like the other end of a second amendment argument. And there are people out there who want these injection banned, for good reason. They probably had a relative, friend, or someone they otherwise know get a bad outcome to vaccination. I know parents with autistic kids who, if/when they are vindicated that vaccination was a reason for their child's condition, would be pretty passionate about vaccination eradication. The other side of this argument is that they would want to ban something that they see has no upside to it, and will actually harm children.

Even as I find vaccines more and more ridiculous as a cure for ailments that need no cure by injection, I still think people have the right to do with their own bodies as they wish, provided it does not harm another.

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Lori's avatar

it does harm us with shedding and higher insurance rates bc of their illnesses from the jabs.

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Bitsy54's avatar

But NOT condemn a poor child to a life of infirmity. My brainless compatriots, now in the dark side of 70, argue “we got vaxxed…there is no problem.” They REFUSE to acknowledge that THEY got 2-4 shots, kids today will have upward of 83!

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

The above argument is exactly why we should not decide what someone else's kid, or they themselves, participate in as interventions.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

the Left abandoned principle

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Garden Lover's avatar

But… but… but…. I can’t get another clot shot. 🙄

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Bitsy54's avatar

I would love to smack them with My Body, My Choice signs

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hon j's avatar

Ron Johnson was the first to allow the discussion for the vaccine injured. I have so much respect for him!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

he is the only politician I ever donated to.

I am so proud of his fight against the windmills, proud also of Kennedy, laughing at the absurd Warren and Warnock.. he they have similar names, both worthless as politicians but very good at grabbing the money... and proud of Vance. got my vote as future president.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

My husband and I have a beach-block condo in OCNJ and we are so grateful there will be no off-coast windmills.

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Marcus's avatar

My thoughts on JD are this....he should continue to run as V.P. with Tulsi as the first on the ticket. This country, including the left are screaming for a female President. If they run AOC up against Gabbard and Vance, it would be a bloodbath. I am open to any adjustments in my thought. I love the look of this ticket if it were to happen.

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Janine Melnitz's avatar

I like Vance/Gabbard then she can be pres 8 years later.

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shibumi's avatar

I'm concerned about Vance and his ties to Thiel and Palantir. He says the right things but.... we've all been there before with politicians who say the right thing and then turn into something entirely different.

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Juju's avatar

You can say the same thing about Tulsi or Rubio or any of them. At some point you have to go with your gut. What is good about JD is his formative years in politics are mostly influenced by MAGA. He’s not bringing with him 10-20 years sleeping with the enemy or playing wishy washy games. He’s being groomed to hand the MAGA baton to and he’s doing a bang up job. No VP has been more significant in my lifetime. He will be surrounded by this entire cabinet too.

I like all three of them actually and any combo will delight me.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Marcus - since you’re “open”, my choice would be Vance/Rubio. They’d be an incredible team! I think most people on the right aren’t screaming for a checked box (first female president) but, rather, the best person for the job! At least I hope so.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Heard Michael Knowles (on Tucker) say DJT told Rubio he should stay in the position he has ‘forever’ because he is so good at it. The quiet part is JDV is likely next up. I am just going to bask in Trump 2.0 and not look too far ahead.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Sadly, this country, including the left, are still indoctrinated with the Woke/DEI notions that has troubled our country for many years. It should be the best person for the job. The whole country at one point screamed that the unvaccinated should be second-class citizens. Many in this country think the Twilight movies and books were great. Tulsi would be a good candidate, but because of her mind, not her gender.

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Marcus's avatar

I agree. Tulsa is smart and has no fear. I can see her getting things done just as Trump is doing. I think she would be very strong in foreign relations as well. Just to put a picture in your mind, Harris dealing with Putin vs Gabbard dealing with Putin. I think she is tough as nails and all business.

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M2's avatar

The Twilight books were good. The movies not so much

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I absolutely vote no on choosing leadership based on gender! Let the best candidate win. Just look at Oregon and our last couple of governors to see how that plays out. Who cares that the left is screaming for anything.

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Laura Scott's avatar

Not really for Tulsi - just still like Vance,Rubio, DeSantis

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Abiding Dude's avatar

IMO, Tulsi cannot win. The combo of Dems and Deep State RINOs would be hard to overcome.

I would not support Vance either. I like him a lot, but his VERY close ties to the vile, corrupt scumbag Thiel (PLANTIR) and that, IMO, eliminates him.

https://rumble.com/v6vl64j-peter-thiel-unveils-u.s.-social-credit-score-e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_m

I think Virginia's Youngkin would be good, maybe with Ron Johnson.

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shibumi's avatar

Thomas. Massie.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I like him... but same as Tulsi, a combo of Dems and RINOs and even misguided Trump would torpedo him.

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SD Scott's avatar

Witch & Warlock

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Lori's avatar

Bet Warnock changed the L to an N.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same thought 😆

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RunningLogic's avatar

I always want to call him Warlock 😑🤔

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Just call them ren and nock, the warring factions.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

He is the first I ever donated to. I've since donated to Trump and RFK Jr. Not enough in any of those cases to make a difference these days, though.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I only recently started donating to politicians—all of them local. He was the first I donated to that wasn’t local.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

I don’t know about Vance for Pres yet. He wrote an interesting book, but he’s no Trump.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Jmsmithmd - but who is? 😁

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MaryAnn's avatar

I always think warlock when I read Warnock 😁

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, when JD's tweet was making the rounds yesterday and people were bashing the Senate I reminded them that there are a few good ones.

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Lori's avatar

We understood what he meant and who Vance targeted.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Hon j - agree 100%. Johnson’s two Senate hearings along with Drs. Pierre Kory and Paul Marik of FLCCC and the Great Barrington Declaration and a few others (all before the jabs came out), helped me make an informed decision not to take the jab. I will be forever grateful.

We need to let these people know we appreciate them!!! It only takes a couple of minutes to call the White House and let Trump know that his pick of RFKj (actually his entire cabinet!) was brilliant. Or to call Senator Johnson’s office to let him know he’s appreciated!

White House comments line - (202) 456-1111

Capitol Hill operator - (202) 224-3121

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Carol Anne's avatar

Thank you for these numbers. I will do so today!

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Annette kimball's avatar

Thanks for the numbers

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Kathy's avatar

On the night of his reelection, I was glued to the screen, washing the numbers in his race. I knew it was critical that he win. God bless that man.

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Mary Sholl's avatar

I was part of the Republican National Lawyers association effort in Milwaukee on election night 2022. We were in the mail in counting center. The Dems tried hard to mess with the voting machine chain of custody and counters. We got in their face and didn’t let them. I think we helped save Rob Johnson that night. And thank God we did.

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Kathy's avatar

Thank you, thank you thank you! You can take some credit for helping to save lives.

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Laura Scott's avatar

Need to make sure about elections for midterms - Dems will keep trying to cheat

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank God indeed!!! 🙏 And thank you for your hard work and perseverance!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

YES!!! same

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Crash Pile's avatar

FDA (21 CFR § 600.3(h)): The Code of Federal Regulations defines vaccines as biological products intended to “prevent, treat, or cure a disease or condition” through the stimulation of an immune response. The COVID biological product certainly doesn’t treat or cure the disease and its ability to prevent disease has been demonstrated to NOT prevent transmission. So calling this product a vaccine is incorrect.

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Carrie's avatar

I used to get semantically annoyed, and simply call it the covid jab… but have become less concerned when people refer to it as a vaccine, because I’ve come to see the problems and falsehoods surrounding all vaccines. In other words, historical vaccines are not necessarily the miracles they have been presented as, so the word “vaccine” in my humble opinion does not deserve a special place in our discourse.

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Astragale's avatar

Except that vaccine does have a meaning - administering a bit of live or attenuated pathogen.

They changed the definition for the covid shots because they DON’T inject a bit of pathogen - they inject artificial-mRNA that causes human DNA to make NON-HUMAN protein.

They changed the definition of vaccine to avoid calling the shots drugs that hijack DNA.

And, of course, to get the total lack of liability granted to vaccines.

Whatever we think of the many vaccines, we can still acknowledge that the covid shots never belonged in the vaccine category.

It’s important because changing the definition was crucial to underpinning all the crimes that followed.

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CStone's avatar

I’m glad it happened, because now ALL vaccines are under surveillance. I was angry when they first changed the meaning…….but now I realize it is causing MONUMENTAL things to happen.

People who should have NEVER been on ANY health committee are being ‘mucked out’ of there, like the manure that they are. And we have an actual PRAYING MAN, RFKJr, in charge.

Thank you, YEHOVAH!!!!

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Astragale's avatar

I agree CS.

If they’d said: “This is a ‘gene therapy’!” then all the DOZENS of mandated childhood shots would not have come under such scrutiny!

They may be kicking themselves for bringing the whole vaxx scam under the microscope. I say vaxx scam but maybe a better term is Pharma gold mine.

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LMWC's avatar

I agree.

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Laura Scott's avatar

Gene Therapy

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Astragale's avatar

Bioweapon.

Spawned by Fauci’s Gain of Function project to make a bat virus dangerous to humanity.

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Beth's avatar

Yep. By and large historical data suggests that all vaccines were introduced as the disease was already working itself out. Not one vaccine was introduced before the disease peaked. They were introduced as hygiene improved and as an understanding of disinfectants became wide spread. Big pharma took credit for people washing their hands and cleaning off their counters and using different tools as they made dinner.

I think Jeff has already posted that graph but if not I will find it and post it.

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Lori's avatar

hence why we call it a jab!

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Carol M's avatar

If I remember correctly, the CDC changed the definition of a vaccine during covid.

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CStone's avatar

I’m glad it happened, because now ALL vaccines are under surveillance. I was angry when they first changed the meaning…….but now I realize it is causing MONUMENTAL things to happen.

People who should have NEVER been on ANY health committee are being ‘mucked out’ of there, like the manure that they are. And we have an actual PRAYING MAN, RFKJr, in charge.

Thank you, YEHOVAH!!!!

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Carol M's avatar

The ONE thing I am grateful for related to the covid nightmare is that the curtain has now been pulled back. We that see will NEVER unsee what our gov and pharma is willing to do to us….

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Thorne Sutherland's avatar

I think the change was initiated by the UN’s agency, the WHO.

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Carol M's avatar

Could be but I remember it coming from CDC:

From AI:

CDC Vaccine Definition Change

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) updated its definition of a vaccine in September 2021. 5 The previous definition, which described a vaccine as "a product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease,"

" was changed to "a preparation that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against diseases". 5 6 This update removed the word "immunity" and replaced it with broader language focusing on stimulating an immune response. 2 5

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Thorne Sutherland's avatar

I wouldn’t completely trust AI, but you could be right. I’m from Canada so my perspective is slightly different.

Either way, the ‘experts’ changed the meaning.

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Astragale's avatar

And, Carol, that change was an absurdity.

Of course, they changed it because calling it a vaccine, back then, reassured people. Also because it gave them the crucial lack of liability they needed.

But it’s absurd because a piece of dirt getting in a cut will “stimulate the body's immune response against diseases”!

MANY substances do that.

With the WHO’s corrupted definition, a piece of DIRT could be CATEGORIZED as a vaccine.

It was outright profiteering intellectual dishonesty.

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Carol M's avatar

Correct! And let's not forget that legacy media was spreading the propaganda that this vaccine actually protected someone from getting covid. Which, of course, was never correct. My guess is the change was to try and protect themselves from liability, knowing legacy media was spreading propaganda that actually "matched" the definition of vaccines at the time. I am so excited that the whole game of vaccines is being blown wide open. Let's get rid of the perpetual income stream for big pharma....the sooner the better. Burn it all down.....

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

This is how to break Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J… just because they labeled their product a vaccine doesn’t make it a vaccine.

… and get them for mislabeling their product.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

And end ALL tv advertising from drug companies.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

It's a gene therapy. It's in the patent.

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shibumi's avatar

Yep. I was banned from another forum because I argued that very point with the moderator who, by chance, worked for Big Pharma in NJ. This was in late '20. Also noted the potential for reverse transcription*, which seems to have happened as well.

*I'm not that smart. My husband is a chemist and knows about those things. I just take in his info and pass it along.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Shibumi—I suspect you probably are ‘that smart’ just maybe not about chemistry. 😊

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shibumi's avatar

Aww... thank you. :)

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Crash Pile's avatar

Unlike vaccines, which primarily stimulate an immune response to prevent disease, gene therapies directly modify genetic material to address underlying genetic or cellular defects. However, some mRNA-based vaccines (e.g., COVID-19 vaccines) have raised questions about overlap, though they are legally classified as vaccines due to their immune-stimulating mechanism.

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CMCM's avatar

Way back my initial suspicion was raised by how they said the "vaccines" would "teach" the body to produce a spike protein. That alone made me say no way I'm getting injected by that!

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Astragale's avatar

Imagine if they’d said:

“Artificial mRNA will be carried INTO your cells by toxic lipid nanoparticles (LNPs).

Once your cells are penetrated - with your immune system blinded to these foreign invaders - the mRNA will tell your DNA to make a dangerous NON-HUMAN protein.

The LNPs will lodge themselves all over your body, in your organs. They’re known to be especially harmful to ovaries.

The spike protein will be made in uncontrollable quantities & the mRNA will last an unforeseeable length of time.

Frame-shifting & class-switching are phenomena that add more risks to the shots.

Cancers, cardiac arrests, fertility problems, immune system damage and other harms are inevitable”.

How many people would have got injected?…

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Gaye's avatar

It is a transfection

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MaryAnn's avatar

What ‘vaccine’ requires multiple annual or biannual boosters? Only the vid jabs. Even flu jabs are called ‘shots’. They think we are stupid.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

We can’t forget that the CDC changed the definition of “vaccine” to fit the data. Shameful.

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Astragale's avatar

And the WHO also changed “herd immunity” & “pandemic”.

SO cynical.

It was all to facilitate the worldwide covid SCAM.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The CVD jab is a gene therapy. It's in the patent.

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Lori's avatar

plus they changed the original definition of vaccine in 2021, how convenient for them.

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Kathy's avatar

They actually had to change the definition of a vaccine twice.

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Bitsy54's avatar

Remember, they CHANGED the definition of a vaccine so the hapless Covid shots would qualify.

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Crash Pile's avatar

Yes, since there is no legal precedent for mandating gene therapies.

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Astragale's avatar

GOOD POINT.

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AKQuiltingGramma's avatar

Looks like CDC changed the definition, but failed to successfully have that change made in the CFR—now the CDC needs to revert to the original definition and stop calling the jab what it is not! And require all so-called vaccines be proven to meet that definition!

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Miss Rodeo's avatar

I believe it is defined as a “countermeasure “.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

The news is so twisted. My husband had our local news on last night. They basically said Kennedy was grilled and made it look like he was the loser. Good grief🙄

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Rob's avatar

When I saw the news telling me obvious lies I stopped watching it, it's no longer the news, it's propaganda.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

It hasn’t been honest for the fifty five years I’ve been paying attention. It’s always been propaganda. And they’ve honed that lies of omission have only gotten worse.

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Astragale's avatar

Well done you. You caught on very early.

I used to spot the obvious stuff but thought a lot of it was probably true.

Since 2020, they could say it’s Friday & I’d check my calendar.

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nancylee's avatar

you might enjoy all of Dave McGowans fabulously funny analyses of major turning points in the ongoing war on humanity, american style.

this will get you to his website via the absurdly staged boston marathon bombing.

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/special-report-on-the-boston-marathon-bombings-part-viii/

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

McGowan is fantastic!

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Mary Goodwin's avatar

The lying, traitorous main-stream media lost their credibility years and years ago.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Fox and Newsmax are deeply flawed too... puppets of Big Pharma and the MIC... they fully support the mass-slaughter in Gaza by Israel and fully support the corrupt scum of Ukraine.

Newsmax had jab mandates for their employees, I think Fox may have too.

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CStone's avatar

We got rid of cable/satellite more than 15 years ago and got ROKU. I was tired of subsidizing cnn and msdnc, and all those other loser networks .

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Robert McCluskey's avatar

I figured this out 65 years ago when JFK was killed! I was only 13yrs old at the time and it was so obvious by watching & reading the contradictory news accounts & watching the Warren Commission give such a sloppy report of the assassination!

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Jamison's avatar

My X feed is full of Democrats saying RFK Jr must resign. It’s a Big Pharma coordinated smear campaign.

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StrayCatPatterson's avatar

Bernie Sanders’ “fight the oligarchy” message feels so hypocritical…how do his Big Pharma masters NOT qualify as an oligarchy? They are doing full court press on RFK jr. So obvious. I pray they are put in their place.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Be careful who you allow on your feed.

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Jamison's avatar

Yeah… This is the “For You” feed, not the feed of “followers”. It does show what X is promoting.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

seems like X can go out the window as well.

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Patti's avatar

Right he’s the problem

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Jpeach's avatar

I can’t watch my local news anymore (somewhere in Central MD). I almost threw a coffee mug at my 75” TV.

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Astragale's avatar

Haha!

I never watch the “news”.

Simply can’t bear the BS!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

🎯

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Abiding Dude's avatar

"Judging Freedom" on YouTube is a very good channel... lots of truths spoken there and the guests are all anti-war- for- profit and anti-corruption.

Citizen Free Press is my home page... not prefect, but good.

https://citizenfreepress.com/

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

my TV went out the door with the coffee mug years ago. Now drinking tea and watching the news in the Memes on Substack

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Jeff S's avatar

What? No coffee?

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Jpeach's avatar

Smart

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dixiebunc's avatar

Local media is told what to say about national news by their affiliated networks.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Which are owned by the Transnationals

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

A drunken armless blind man could hit your TV 9 out of 10 times. You show excellent restraint!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

One would think that in a state like Florida, where especially here in central Florida,the media might get the idea if they were just honest, and didn’t push everything through a progressive die, they’d get more viewership. But alas, the progressives are a stupid lot, so the local news here is exactly the same as everywhere, biased progressive shite.

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Patti's avatar

🤣🤣🤣active watching

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

just unsubscribed from a news nation that pretends to be unbiased. Good grief they are NOT. Goodbye news nation.

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Lisa's avatar

I used to get Newsmax but my cable switched to NewsNation. Unwatchable.

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Dorota's avatar

Try OAN or Newsmax

Better yet Real America's Voice

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Elaine H's avatar

Sometimes you have to watch ‘their media’ to see what lies they are telling. 😉

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Dorota's avatar

Bannon does it every day for you in about 2 minutes.

War room

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Karen's avatar

I watch RAV but I have to be in the mood to listen to Bannon....that studdering or whatever it is drives me freaking nuts.....

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Dorota's avatar

I like him. He doesn't care about anything people say about him.

Right now criticizing yesterday's meeting in White House.

👍

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Exactly - Be in the know.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

thanks for the tip Dorota. The honest news about the world seems to be on Sputnik - yes, one has to watch the Russians now to see what is going on. I had news nation but threw it out and now only have fox left.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Russian television was removed a few years ago from our selections on cable. I guess we need Starlink or a dish like my wise brother used to have. Then he proved he wasn’t wise when I told them not to get the vax, they did, and he died within days. His wife has had terrible health ever since. I need RT still.

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Susan Clack's avatar

So sorry that your brother was lost to the necromancy of the Jabs. Why couldn't our loved ones just listen for once? 😰😰😰

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I got it on the computer. It requires telegram but that is easily installed. Even I could do that LOL

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Thank you. I already have a telegram account. Will check.

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CStone's avatar

Get ROKU. You can download YouTube and all kinds of other things that fit you. We have Amazon Prime and several Christian channels. We got it 15+ years ago. You buy it, attach it to your tv and Wi-Fi and you’re good to go. One and done.

(You can even buy ROKU tv’s now, with ROKU built in.)

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

it is all on my computer. I have no TV and I don't pay for anything. I got a Google extension that eliminates the commercials on the tube.

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Lynn46's avatar

I've been watching You Tubers that have moved to Russia. Moscow is first world and is gorgeous.

Check out Scottish Guy in Moscow.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

oh you got yet another one! I follow 2 but they don't post regularly. Found them last year, and started learning Russian - did not even manage to learn the Alphabet! I think my head is full LOL. Moscow seems to be very clean, compared to Western cities. There are also small villages in the mountains in Dagestan. Women getting together to knit, crochet, embroider. Little comfort, but lots of cordiality! Ah if I were 20 years younger I might still venture... but now I trusted into this place in GA...

(Englishman in Moscow, Windows on Moscow)

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Lynn46's avatar

Ingrid, check out American Highlander on YT also. The man has found a piece of paradise here on earth. He just started his channel a few weeks ago. I probably got it on my feed bc I'm a HUGE Outlander fan.

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shibumi's avatar

And... if you want to get internet search results like you did back in the day, try yandex.com.

Yep. Russian again.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

thanks for the tip Shibumi ! I am going to check that out right away

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Lynn46's avatar

RAV, yes. I especially like Ben Berqguam and his Law and Border. Finally had to show my son how you can watch shows on demand also but needed to get the app on his Roku.

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Patti's avatar

Don’t believe your lying eyes! I enjoyed RFK pushing back. Calling them out. Riled up. Hell ya be rocked it

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Janet's avatar

My husband called Bobby a nasty asshole. The worst. Of course he was getting carefully “curated” footage later on his MSM. I said good for Bobby.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

I thought maybe you said goodbye to your husband.

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Janet's avatar

Naw. 57 years married—I’ve heard everything and he’s stuck with me.

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Lori's avatar

I would have.

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Steve Stevens's avatar

That’s the way I saw it.

He couldn’t answer basic questions.

Didn’t offer up any studies to back his vaccine skepticism.

Even Republicans went after him.

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Lori's avatar

You are blind if you saw it that way. why don't you go see the children that have been disabled by this godforsaken jab like Maddie de Garay or Cody Hudson and the thousands more. And that is not counting adults killed or maimed. Hey, there is a covid jab waiting for you since you believe in them. Have at it please.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

there are only a couple hundred books about it

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Steve Stevens's avatar

I’m pretty sure they’re not going to read any books on this.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

of course not. but someone might read this.. who knows, several have already learned the truth! Dissolving Illusions is still my favourite. There is another one, I think, killed by injection - older book but very good. And forwarding an article by Mark Crispin Miller sometimes helps too, although of course, we cannot check how many have died from the jabs. There is a channel on telegram with deaths in Connecticut, with pictures of the people 'fully vaccinated' and 'boosted' and then... dead.

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Juju's avatar

That’s ONLY the way it looked with the clips chosen to be shared by media. When listening to it as a whole uninterrupted or unedited, it was an entirely different feeling and perception.

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BBS's avatar

Every day I read the obits in my local paper. Today 2/3 of the people who died were in their 50's and 60's. This is more often the case than not. 30,000 from Vaers doesn't begin to tell the whole story

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Astragale's avatar

I’ve noted over 90 deaths & serious illnesses in my circle since mid-2021. Every few weeks, another cardiac arrest, late miscarriage, rapid cancer, pulmonary embolism, leukemia…

Not a single case has been linked to the shots. In only one case did a daughter tell me she’s sure the shots killed her dad & in another case a daughter expressed doubt about why her healthy father suddenly dropped dead.

Betting the vast majority of harms & death are not being linked. Certainly not in any official way.

BUT - the excess mortality data in highly injected countries IS recorded…& people like Ed Dowd have shown how revealing it is.

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LMWC's avatar

Because no one openly questions “jab mortalities”, it remains shrouded in mystery. The msm will never question it unless it becomes expedient to do so.

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daverkb's avatar

I live a rather secluded life ... and I am shocked at the ninety figure in you circle. How many other people, like you, can report the same?

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Betsy Frost's avatar

I haven't added up numbers but can say that my experience is similar. Seems that anytime I'm together with a group of people I hear of at least one death or major illness. This was not the norm before 2021.

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks! I like hearing what other people know and think. Many thanks.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

One of the volunteers at work just lost her 87 yo mom after several years of bad health. The mom said it was the jabs. She said her health really started to deteriorate after them.

Another volunteer is having heart issues and so are her siblings. They also believe it was the shots.

They seem to just be living with the damage and knowledge, but at least these know.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

some say it is more like 17 million world wide. It happens in all countries.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

True. Ron J referred to only the first few days. Should have been hours.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

I've been driving by a large graveyard for decades.

I would notice 2 to 3 burials a week. Now it's 2 to 6 a day.

Safe & effective....

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thanks for mentioning that Diana, didn't know about that! Ron Johnson is also anti wireless infrastructure/ surveillance state. Seems like a good man.

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Jkelly's avatar

Remember though - you were only considered vaxed if it was 2 weeks from the second jab. From pharma’s standpoint these deaths were unvaxed. Brilliantly evil definition they used.

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Carrie's avatar

And… as bad as the covid jabs were, there was extra immune suppression between the first and second one, and for two weeks after the second = 4 weeks of enhanced vulnerability to covid. All for short term temporary “protection”, then boosters. (Of course, we all know there was never any protection provided by the gene therapies).

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Kim Donnelly's avatar

Just to let you all know the pretty lady googling at RFK is his daughter 🙄

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Sherrylyn Young's avatar

Yes, and when your own daughter looks at you so respectfully and lovingly, you are doing something right.

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Juju's avatar

You can almost imagine she was praying over him the entire time nonstop, and her expressions were a reflection of the loving prayers and appeals to God in her head.

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Lori's avatar

Reckoning Day is coming like a wrecking ball and I cannot wait.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

The VAERS Report has been corrupted. The last report was from '22 and the total deaths were 32,000+... so where are the numbers for '23 and '24 (and to-date '25)??

It seems that Big Pharma was able to stop the reporting, as the numbers obviously were VERY problematic for such a safe and effective death-jab. So the total deaths reported from the jabs has not changed since '22? VERY smelly.

And remember, the VAERS Report only included deaths within 2 weeks of the jabs (absurd limitation)... and the Report is known to only capture around 1% of all adverse events/deaths...

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Wow. You’re right I saw all the hot mess on capital hill but heard nothing about this.

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Coalburned's avatar

The media isn't about to jeopardize their bottom line. Taking on vaccine safety is a high-risk proposition. They know they'll alienate a portion of their consumers or put themselves in the cross-hairs of some three-letter agency, or both. We know the media is worthless, so their refusal to investigate VAERS data comes as no surprise.

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Barbls's avatar

I didn't see news yesterday. Where can I find Sen Johnson's post?

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Trudy's avatar

Thank you for this!

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Barbls's avatar

Thank you!

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Sounds like "Long Covid" lives.

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

" I don’t know which Democrat conceived the idea of staging this political assassination effort, but whoever it was, I would like to shake his/her/their/its hand. "

In the case of skinless/spineless/slimy cat-like Senator Wyden, "I would like to shake his paw"

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

Some of things should not surprise us.

Example: Since taking office in 2011, Ron Johnson has received $270,244 in contributions from pharmaceutical PACs and executives. A notable instance of a donation came after he declined to subpoena the drug manufacturer Teva Pharmaceuticals as part of a 2018 opioid investigation. Months later, Teva donated to Johnson's campaign and an affiliated PAC.

Quarter mill is not a small amount of coin.

Take this with ya for the weekend: Protecting and putting Americans first to Democrats is like sunlight to a vampire. https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/rise-of-the-mashed-potato-brained

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Sunnydaze's avatar

So if Massachusetts and Oregon, Washington and California ditch the CDC and recommend vaxxes for children ages 5 and up - Can they now be held liable for adverse health effects even up to death???? Did they just sidestep big Harma’s immunity???

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Just guessing, but if the CDC takes vaccines off the recommended childhood schedule, they will no longer have federal immunity.

The manufacturers will either have to decide whether they can make a profit without the liability shield, or try to get the states to make a shield for them.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I can absolutely see that happening. They don’t mind doing deals with the devil. (They is interchangeable with both sides).

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

But an MD can always make an individual recommendation for a person or a child. That might be where the greater risk and liability resides. Which is where it should reside. If physicians started to become liable, they would be far less likely to make recommendations.

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Juju's avatar

If the voters vote for people that create a liability shield for vaccines at the state level, they deserve what they get.

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MM's avatar

This line of reasoning is always so flawed because 100% of people are condemned for what may amount to 50.1% of a vote. I wish people would stop this irrational line of thought.

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Juju's avatar

You’re right and I actually had that thought after hitting send. Even the cheating going on that kept so many deep staters in office all these years despite that the majority actually did NOT vote for them.

But we do have enough info now to light a fire under people to get out and spread the truth and help get more voters to the polls. Complacency will never deliver what you “wish for”.

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MM's avatar

Thank you for the thoughtful discourse. Now I agree with you complete about complacency! The apathetic lead us to ruin. It never ceases to amazing me how many people want to bury their head in the sand and will only look up if made sufficiently uncomfortable.

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

In theory I'm in favor of people getting it if they want it. Just like anyone has a right, if that's what it is, to eat junk food and douse themselves in chemicals. But just like psych drugs have bleed-over consequences for the rest of society, so does everything else. On the one hand, the state shouldn't micro-manage people's lives. Yet, I can't help but think that a brainwashed parent, whether true-believer or ignorant order-follower, shouldn't be able to consent to the poisoning of their child. Gender transing children will soon be a criminal act everywhere in this country. Why should kiddie jabs be any different? We all pay the price for deluded ideologies and "scientific" excess. But finding the balance between what is allowable and what is forbidden, by whom and for whom is very tricky.

I'd like to live in a world where only healthful and innocuous foods and treatments are allowable as sanctioned by the state, so no USDA Organic bs certifications. But for informed adults, I'd like a world where where we can make our own choices. So even if in general parental rights are a good thing, for kids I would draw the line at the forever-procedures that can never be undone. Remove the easy money and the seals of approval, the subsidies and associated prestige these poisons all seem to have and the healthy choices will make themselves when they become the only ones available.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Exactly and of course they’re not cheating either (sarcasm)

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SteelJ's avatar

How is Juju's reasoning flawed? I thought that's what voting is all about - so the people are represented by officials who represent their views. Granted it's a far from perfect system, and often there is nobody to vote for except vermin#1 and vermin#2. Still, what's the alternative? If it's not the majority of voters who decide, that means some dictatorial authority from on high must override the voters' wishes. That's worse. With the exception we must abide by the constitution of course, regardless of the whims of voters and their elected leaders. Which is why there's a mechanism for constitutional amendment when truly necessary. There is no perfect system, but the one we have (voters decide while abide by constitution) is the best I know of, unless you can convince you have a better idea. The fact 50.1 percent dictate policy is simply the way it works, not only on vaccine mandates, but everything else. It's up to the wiser minority to either change minds, move, or live within the environment they have. The voting public gets what it deserves.

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MM's avatar

I’m not disputing the voting process, I’m disputing the phrasing of “they deserve it”.

Even with a 99%, I could not cast condemnation on the remaining one for the choice of the 99. The Founding Fathers pointed out the problem with “democracy”, which is why you have a Republic.

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SteelJ's avatar

What I mean, and I suspect Juju means is the voters as a collective deserve it. Of course there will be good individuals caught up in the mass delusions through no fault of their own. I agree with you. I also think California has the government they deserve - democracy at work.

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Miss Rodeo's avatar

Oh, there’s a thought! Remove the liability shield in some states.

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Juju's avatar

Most states presently don’t have a liability shield. It’s at the federal level. That’s why many states are suing Big Pharma at the state level.

But if states create their own “recommendations” and separate from the CDC, they will want to create their own shields at that state level to do it. That would require the voters to agree with that kind of bill. They HAVE to remain watchful and then fight them, because bills like that go under the radar. And that was my point, if a state doesn’t fight hard enough to stop it, because they didn’t try, then they get what they deserve. However, I have to also agree with MM because I live near a very blue city that makes all the surrounding suburbs deep blue and our state representatives don’t listen to us. Every time I write to them or call them they just recite to me their narrative of their reasons and ignore me and refuse any debate - then they vote how they want. A brick wall is thrown up instantly if we call with an opposing view. It’s true authoritarianism in action so I laugh when liberals accuse Trump of that. So I wouldn’t feel I deserved it if our state instituted a liability shield because it’s futile to fight in our state. (IL). I have the power to move to a red state and that is what we will be doing.

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Peace's avatar

JuJu - Did voters at the federal level vote for liability shield? I'm wondering why voters at the state level would need to vote in liability shield rather than legislators simply voting it in without voter's doing so.

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Juju's avatar

We do when we vote in the kinds of people that would push through bills like this, and don’t vote them out once we discover it.

I have seen just this past year the power we all have over the bills being considered by staying on top of the senators that vote for or against them. I believe we were too uninvolved and nobody knew what was in most bills. But that’s our job as citizens to stay on top of it. That’s the very thing Congress never wanted any of us to find out, that we CAN and should be involved. They operate from a belief that once voted in they are no longer representing us, and we are just supposed to trust them. We have the power and now we know it.

So yes, even at the federal level we are responsible, and if something is passed that nobody wanted it’s up to us to remove those senators and representatives and vote somebody in that will undo it.

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NoWay's avatar

Or actually make vaccines that are safe(r), and eliminate the unnecessary.

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Bitsy54's avatar

Doesn’t seem like there is ANY reason for ANY vaccine. Just stop the insanity. Measles, mumps and rubella (the wild cases) aren’t fatal. Kids don’t need Hep B shots, it’s just disgusting. Read Dissolving Illusions and get THE TRUTH

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CMCM's avatar

I was born in 1949, so all during my childhood in the 1950s we all got cases of measles, mumps, chicken pox, usually in about October after school started each year. Big whoop! We got sick, then we got better and went back to school. At that time, there were not yet vaccines for those things.

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Kathy's avatar

I don’t think it’s possible to make a safe vaccine. But definitely safer.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Can we also please withhold all federal funding they receive?

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Cabogirl's avatar

Great idea. Let these states that want to do their own thing do their own thing without any help. Bye.

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Lori's avatar

Don’t forget Hawaii. Oregonian here, my daughter with unvaxxed children is following this very closely.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Oregon state senators have been the nastiest in terms of coercion of parents who want to excercise their medical ethical rights of informed consent for their children. Especially Dr/Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward and Senator Jeff Golden. All the Democrat Oregon legislators are just nasty creatures when comes to God-given-rights.

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Kathy's avatar

I guess this is why there are so many homeschoolers in Oregon. And this is why Dr. Paul Thomas was able to produce a good sized study of children in his practice since birth, comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated and all the different diseases. Guess who came out on top? It was astonishing. So of course they took away his license.

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Michael Framson's avatar

What are the odds that Wyden knows this and doesn't care? Or he is profoundly ignorant. After I wrote this I realized its both.

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CMCM's avatar

Wyden LOOKS sick and he is a sick human being.

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Michael Framson's avatar

I heard on the radio, "you can't look at Wyden without a welder's helmet."

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Cabogirl's avatar

Ya.. and they were the last state to actually give up segregation!! Still are actually a very racist state.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

“Nasty creatures”. You nailed it. They are pure evil nasty creatures. No other way to describe them allowable by the human language.

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Michael, infuriating. And the voting process in Oregon guarantees one party Democrat rule.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I didn’t know Hawaii did it too. Just heard of the west coast alliance. Same one they made during the fake covid scam. 40 yr Oregonian here who fled to Florida and never looked back 5 years ago (except to go visit family and friends).

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Guy White's avatar

The “West Coast Alliance” is an axis of evil within our shores.

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Peace's avatar

Maybe some good could come from West Coast Alliance? 1. Maybe it will disrupt the CDC enough to start from scratch 2. Shows that outliers must be able to not abide by the CDC - might come in handy if the shoe is on the other foot one day politically.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’m glad you’re here.

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Sunnydaze, as you are aware, it's getting worse here. The Democrats have so badly mismanaged things they are running out of money and are having a special session to increase our taxes. We might actually have to consider moving.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes. I heard about it. We have friends with their house up for sale as we speak. They want out. They are self-employed and refuse to give oregon another dime. They are so done with Oregon. I don’t blame them. Or you.

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Cabogirl's avatar

Hawaii is very liberal.

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Carrie's avatar

Whether they have already or not, Hawaii will do it in the most totalitarian way!! Recall covid travel mandates. If you flew into Hawaii, you had to quarantine 2 weeks, and it was ENFORCED!!! Testing mandatory, etc. Alaska resident here, we also had a travel mandate to test on arrival through the airport… but the testing personnel and stations were not set up as barricades, so you could just walk past and not follow the unconstitutional/illegitimate mandate. You could not skirt around it in Hawaii. They really know how to enforce totalitarian policies on people there.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes I knew all that. We’ll never ever go back to Hawaii for any reason because of it.

Remind me….was Tulsi there during that part?? It took me a while to come around with her. So far I like her NOW but back then not so much.

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Carrie's avatar

Not sure Tulsi’s view on that at the time

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Jeff S's avatar

Yeah, my son and his girlfriend went through that Hawaii hell. They eventually left.

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We also had friends going to and from Alaska during that time. We were appalled that they complied - even with quarantine at home after their flight!!!! 🤦🏼‍♀️ we were like WTH are you doing!!! Ack 🙄

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Carrie's avatar

All you had to do in Anchorage was walk past the 20 somethings manning the testing stations and listen to them try to get your attention

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hon j's avatar

Will insurers leave their state? She said they must pay for it, now that we can discuss vaccine injuries, who's liable? I'd think rates will sky rocket and/or insurers week leave that market. Or, of course, spread the cost to the rest of us not taking the poison!

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Lori's avatar

those of us who did not take the jab should receive a discount on our insurance since we are not putting in claims.

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Cabogirl's avatar

Agree. Also while we are at it could we get a discount for not being obese ! And for not taking 5 pharmaceutical products !!! Actually taking none !!! Also for no illegal drugs too.

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Lori's avatar

A larger discount for each box checked!

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Quiltlady's avatar

I really like the idea of getting a discount for not being on any pharmaceutical drugs.

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Chjuhnke's avatar

I always wonder how much my “free” medical stuff costs me/taxpayers.

I decided not to have a “free” home visit sponsored by Medicare, which would tell me if my home is “safe”. And take my blood pressure. I would have gotten $50!

And my partner would have gotten $50, also.

I have not had my “free” Annual Wellness Visit this year (the message I hear while I’m on hold with my PCP’s medical conglomerate advises me to call it “AWV” as if in my everyday conversations I need a cute new acronym). At which time, apparently, if I ask any un-wellness related questions, I will be instructed to make a separate appointment. Which will be “free” because she’s my PCP. But she will bill Medicare for each and every encounter.

All those “free” vaccines being aggressively pushed aren’t free either. I worry what the push will be like now, trying to keep Big Pharma bloated in the manner to which they have become accustomed.

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Copernicus's avatar

Ugh.

Yay for you seeing through the con.

So many older folks who just go along with the "nice perks" and "benevolent" freebies. And unfortunately so many nurses and doctors and the like who also believe it's all in the name of niceness and taking good care of our "most vulnerable."

Maybe our most vulnerable would be less vulnerable if they didn't get poked and jabbed so much.

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Bitsy54's avatar

Battle cry of Medicare recipients: “If it’s free gimme three!”

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Jeannie Harshbarger's avatar

We reject those home visits. Hubby even rejects the yearly wellness visit.

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hon j's avatar

Will leave^^^^

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C. Wilson's avatar

We all know about typos and auto correct. Never fret. We auto correct and know what you are saying.

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Cabogirl's avatar

Yes and do not do that free colon cancer poop test they are sending out either. Toss it. It’s a set up cuz the next step will cost you big time. They show a positive (highly probability that it’s false) you then pay double for a colonoscopy because now they say you have it….even if you just get a regular charge it will be fairly sizable. Colonoscopies are the biggest money making procedures around. Go to a reputable source for the poop test. Not mail order.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Bankers have us in a polycrisis.

"Thus the Drug Trust, while maintaining the Stalinist Communist Government in Russia, simultaneously maintained a Communist back up regime in the United States, the Trotskyite Movement, in case the Stalinist regime should fall."

Eustace Mullins

Murder By Injection.

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My 4 year old totally unvaccinated grandson was in a cute little rural pre-school. Most, but apparently not all of the limited kids there were also unvaccinated. Apparently one of the mothers there ratted him out to the state (CA) and the vaccine Nazis contacted the school owner. She asked my grandson to leave unless he got the required vaccines. He is of course heartbroken. So in CA they already have "a process" to enforce vaccines.

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SM's avatar

They would probably still default to existing federal immunity laws.

Wait until those protections go down in a fiery blaze 🔥

There’s no way MAHA isn’t already planning on obliterating those protections in due course.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

may be they should make a united States of their own, since they do not agree with anything? Of course there would still be islands disagreeing, but it would be better overall, I think.

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Lori's avatar

Bravo!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

With no eua? I’ll betcha! Jeff?

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Patti's avatar

Hoping! I live in Washington hell hole and I’m hoping these thugs are held accountable. This state is a joke

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

Everyone here might be missing the end game. The federal government doesn’t have any Constitutional granted power over health issues. Having states assert the power granted to them by the 10th Amendment will make it hard for them to argue about the complete elimination of the entire Department of Health and Human Services.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

RFK was Stove God Cooks.

Fact is US is the man nority on this, only 20 nation in world MANDATE vaccines, and about the same number so so to attend school.

Only 195 nations in the world.

Them folks tricks and marks who just wanna keep their pocket fats.

Protecting and putting Americans first to Democrats is like sunlight to a vampire.

https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/rise-of-the-mashed-potato-brained

Just sharing: will share again in AM so don't hate. Be safe.

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Kathy's avatar

I’m afraid that for now the liability shield would hold.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Like apples of gold in settings of silver

Is a word spoken in right circumstances.

Like an earring of gold and an ornament of fine gold

Is a wise reprover to a listening ear.

Like the cold of snow in the time of harvest

Is a faithful messenger to those who send him,

For he refreshes the soul of his masters.

— Proverbs 25:11-13

✝️✝️✝️

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John Galt?'s avatar

A word spoken in the right circumstances is only gaining value. Have you seen the price of gold and silver?

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’m loving it!

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John Galt?'s avatar

One could buy a gallon of gas for a quarter in the early 60's. Full-service. That quarter was 90% silver until 1964, and its current value is $7.48. So if you roll your Bentley up to a full-serve gas station in Beverly Hills and buy a gallon of full-serve gas, a knowledgeable attendant will accept that early-60's quarter as payment. If you do that in the midwest, he'll give you two gallons.

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daverkb's avatar

I read or saw the other day that if the gold price at the height of the seventies runup were inflation adjusted using the real index (not the government's idiotic index), then gold would have to be priced at around 35,000-ish an ounce. Silver would have to be hugely higher, I think the figure was around 6,000 some an ounce, but don't hold be too it. Not to say where prices are going, but it was an interesting exercise.

'They' the PTB have really robbed us blind.

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Full Name's avatar

Last 90% silver US coins were 1964...

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John Galt?'s avatar

I stand corrected!

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daverkb's avatar

I think it is different this time.

My trading platform only goes back twenty years but shows the same chart pattern as your link does. As a side note, one can see three cups in the chart, two smaller ones and one super cup. The other thing I have noticed is that silver has been working laboriously higher of many years now, meaning this is not a feverous fickle silver market but one that has been methodically moving towards higher and higher pricing which reflects real supply and demand considerations.

First, it looks like the era of paper gold and silver price fixing has come to an end. Increasingly, demand and the integrity of markets has shifted to Asia. We can thank China for that. And interestingly, some central banks appear to be buying silver now. Russia is one of them. Also, relative to gold mining, silver mining is a very tiny sector and most silver product is a by-product of base metal mining. Additionally, industrial users have taken to buying dore for processing directly from mines. They are doing this because they cannot buy enough supply in the open market. Also, silver users are standing for delivery at future exchanges and ETFs, all of which speaks to supply and demand constriction ... and very supportive of higher prices. I think that we are seeing a growing silver squeeze building. There just is not enough supply, thus the pressure is price up.

The United States and Europe are now caught in a debt trap. Demand for US Treasury (particularly at long duration) is falling off and therefore long term Treasuries are having a hard time at auction. Countries, many folks just don't want to hold US Treasury debt obligations anymore. Given this predilection, this then begs the question of where does one go? Into a vastly overpriced stock market? Probably not if one is smart. The more obvious choice is into real money which is gold. And into silver for a basket of reasons including a revival of silver's use as a monetary metal (and I personally know a lot of people who cannot afford to buy a lot of gold are buying and stacking silver instead. They rather stack silver than keep a lot of money in banks.).

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

It’s been on a slow steady climb since we’ve been buying. I remember buying at 14, 17, 23, 27, 33, and converting at 36. So yahoo.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

Delightful proverb!

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Jamie's avatar

“Like apples of gold in settings of silver

Is a word spoken in right circumstances” Prov 25:11

See:

“The Lord God has given me the tongue of those who are taught, that I may know how to sustain with a word him who is weary. Morning by morning he awakens; he awakens my ear to hear as those who are taught.”

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭50‬:‭4‬ ‭

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Good morning, all! I’ll spare you from my usual meandering commentary, but I will say that if a canker sore could screech it would sound like Elizabeth Warren. You can’t reason with a banshee.

I will share this as well: I’m on to you Counselor…I wasn’t sure at first, but you’ve been moonlighting. Parting your hair on the other side and temporarily darkening your beard with some off brand hair dye might have fooled some, but not this C+ graduate. Caught with your hands on the coffee grinder...or something.

https://youtube.com/shorts/QbarmY-_Tnk?feature=shared

Jeffboy

Coffee & Baseball

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Juju's avatar

If a canker sore could screech! 🤣🤣 I’m dying here 😂😆

As a prior sufferer of canker sores I can attest that there is no better descriptor of Warren.

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Lori's avatar

She is more of a Herpetic genital wart on steroids.

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shayne's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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barbara ford's avatar

your comments! that video! hilarious!

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I bet only women would say that video is hilarious. 😉

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Crash Pile's avatar

You’d lose that bet. It’s hilarious. BTW I didn’t like wearing the cup when I was a Little League catcher but it was effective.

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Rick Olivier's avatar

same here. any umpire who doesn't know to protect the jewels ain't worth his salt. Johnny Bench is LOLing

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C. Wilson's avatar

No, we both laughed!

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

I didn't think it was funny. I did wonder why they don't wear codpieces.

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C. Wilson's avatar

That is fantastic. The guy isn't too bright. I'm a woman and even I know that certain sports requre "cups" be worn.

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Lori's avatar

He will need Viagra for sure now.

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MattD's avatar

Nope.. that would be a bad idea. Maybe in a few months… I heard this from a friend.

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Lori's avatar

LOL

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

Nitric oxide actually.

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Jeff S's avatar

Athletic supporters help, too.

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MattD's avatar

Eric, please stop sparing me from your meandering commentaries!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

You don't know what you're asking. If you feed a stray cat it will never go away.

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MattD's avatar

I think we crossed that line quite a while ago don’t you? Besides I love all cats especially strays that have that certain meandering look in their eyes. You do deserve a mini-break..enjoy.

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shayne's avatar

But how can we let them starve... or eat fledging sparrows 🤣🤣🤣 Keep being you, Eric

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Valerie's avatar

Hahaha that does look a lot like Jeff! Also, that poor umpire...

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Yeah, that's a bad bit of luck right there.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

OMG Hobgoblin…I live for your comments. She DOES sound like a canker sore. I’m so stealing this. And giving you proper credit, of course.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

Just a thought, but what if we could, as a nation, ostracize (1) US senator every year. I would love, for instance, to see Elizabeth get voted off the island by the majority of America’s voters. As a side effect, the senators who came in 2nd or 3rd would probably be motivated to act more senatorial.

The crazy people in blue states need to be more serious about who they send to the Senate, we’ve got a country to run. And I have a right not to be embarrassed, in front of the whole world, by your senator.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

You’d think they'd figure it out at some point that bellowing and gesticulating like wounded hyenas is not a sane approach to….well, anything. Dolts.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I noticed how OLD they all are. Take away the hair color and they look like Crypt Keepers. Retire already.!

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LMWC's avatar

That video is hysterical….

My sons were both catchers. They learned early the value of cup protectors. Apparently the umpire didn’t.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

There's not enough protective gear on the planet for me to get behind that insidious plate.

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Copernicus's avatar

🤣 on the video.

🤣🤣 on the screeching canker sore.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Serendipitously appeared out of the ether.

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Freebird's avatar

Great catch Eric! That guy is a ringer for Jeff and hilarious! 🤣

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Lori's avatar

Being a true fanatic, she has mental illness. A banshee would even run from her.

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shayne's avatar

Perhaps a nice medieval "scold's bridle" for her.

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Lori's avatar

Oh yes please!

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JW's avatar

😅🤣😂

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John Anthony's avatar

Ouch!

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Beckadee's avatar

You are a funny guy!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

It's a Jeckyll-Hyde thing. The Hobgoblin tries to be funny. I, on the other hand, am a ruthless bore....but thank you.

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CStone's avatar

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Beth Bart's avatar

😂

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Lon Guyland's avatar

“injure Kennedy’s popularity ratings by yelling at him”

This highlights their stupidity and is related to their hysteria at President Trump saying kind words, and meeting with, for example, Putin.

They somehow believe that invective and insults are an effective way to advance an agenda. Somehow, if you can manage to sound sufficiently crude and bellicose, your words will magically defeat your opponent.

They are caricatures of their own impotence.

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Patty's avatar

I think the senators are simply putting on the show for a payout. That money the vax lobby set aside to “destroy” RFK has to go somewhere.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Take that right to the bank.

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Essay33's avatar

They are actually very unintelligent people. Their skill is in acting and speaking in whatever manner will get them elected.

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SM's avatar

They don’t realize that their words aren’t actually violence to a sane and grown man like Kennedy 😂

Only juveniles think that squawking and braying nonsense is effective.

Liberals have zero self awareness, self respect or sanity 😵‍💫

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Lori's avatar

Your last line is delicious, thank you.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Purity-spiraling virtue-signalers. Brilliant way to describe the DNC. They still don't understand that it's their policies, not their word salad, that is turning off voters: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/third-way-pritzker-woke-language

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Steenroid's avatar

When you’ve told each other you are smarter than everyone else for years you loose the ability to recognize reality.

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RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

That’s the great trap of totalitarianism. It matters not if its ideas lean communist or fascist - when one party rule occurs, self-serving functional idiots rise to power over time. I live in California. I know what I’m talking about.

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Steenroid's avatar

NM here and we’re not far behind you. CO already lost.

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

Yea but we're number one!

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David Eldon Wood's avatar

This could be the Dunning Kruger effect demonstrated in actual practice.

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Steenroid's avatar

Being a hick boomer you have to explain this effect.

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David Eldon Wood's avatar

Here is the AI Overview Steenroid.

What Is The Dunning-Kruger effect In Business - FourWeekMBA

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people with low ability or competence in a specific area tend to overestimate their own skill and knowledge, while those with high ability may underestimate theirs. This stems from a lack of self-awareness, as people without expertise also lack the metacognitive ability to recognize their own incompetence. It was first described by psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger in 1999.

Key Aspects of the Dunning-Kruger Effect:

Overestimation by the Incompetent:

Individuals who are unskilled in a particular domain often believe they are more capable than they actually are, a misconception stemming from their lack of expertise to accurately evaluate their own performance.

Underestimation by the Competent:

Conversely, people who are highly competent in a subject may underestimate their own relative ability. This is because they may perceive the task as easier for others than it truly is.

Lack of Self-Awareness:

The core of the Dunning-Kruger effect is a deficit in metacognition, or the ability to think about one's own thinking. Incompetent individuals lack the very knowledge needed to understand how much they don't know.

Domain-Specific, Not General Intelligence:

The effect does not suggest that less intelligent people are generally overconfident. Instead, it applies to a person's specific lack of skill or knowledge in a particular area, such as playing chess, writing, or learning a language.

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Steenroid's avatar

Sounds like every person I worked with or knew in other Agricultural CoOps hence the massacre of the Butter Bitch. CoOp are good until they grow to where they bring on outside managers and leadership who don’t know shot from shinola.

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David Eldon Wood's avatar

It is those outside managers that cause the problems. The people working in the vineyards (so to speak) should be promoted into managers instead.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

There isn’t a mirror between them. I wonder what goes between their three brain cells when they see themselves on the Telly? Do they think “ I really nailed him with that one!”? It’s bad performance art ( ! ) at best.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

Leonard Pinth Garnell presents Bad Theater!

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Jpeach's avatar

The Democrats’ “for the greater good” narrative, stopped working. Americans are learning the Marxists’ lingo tricks.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Wow, Yuri, that link provides quite an academic analysis and resource for anyone interested in learning language manipulation. Great job.

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RSgva's avatar

Some of them do, but changing their policies would mean losing all those Wall St and Pharma contributions.

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StrayCatPatterson's avatar

Bodily-autonomy denying my body their choicers.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Unfortunately, the comments off a friends page where she attempted to wake up her libtard “friends” fell flat. They opined that RFK Jr really doesn’t have the credentials needs to do this job and he wasn’t trustworthy as they didn’t believe much of what he said. On and on the blathering went. While my friend who has been a dental hygienist for 40 years spoke about children’s health declining severely, autism amongst those children and the death of her special needs brother two years ago because of the coof vax. She no sooner buried her brother and her husband got turbo cancer and has been fighting everything imaginable including other cancers and brain tumors -for a year and a half. She documents it all. She did not take the jab and tried to talk both of them out of it. They let family members coerce them into it. One is dead and the other in an early grave. And her friends who know them STILL refuse to wake up. It’s super horrific!!!!

I can’t fathom the idiocy of these people. I used to respond and back her up, but I can’t even do that anymore.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

So sorry about your friend, Sunny. All we can do is pray that the Lord will wake people up. I think it’s the same kind of thing as being blind to the truth of the gospel.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Speaking of gospel, I listened to Lara Logan on X recently provided a word of advice to the many unbelievers by explaining how they forfeit all inherent rights, justice and truth, which come from God, when they fail to believe that God exists or has power over their lives —-(paraphrasing). She made perfect sense.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

While not all, I'm sure something in here applies:

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God GAVE THEM OVER TO A DEBASED MIND, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things [think gain of function and self replicating vaxs], disobedient to parents, undiscerning [unable to recognize evil], untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

Romans 1:28-32

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Susan Seas's avatar

Just reply with the name Rachel Devine.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yet another sad tale.

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Lori's avatar

You want a sad but sick tale, check this out.

Story from Tucker Carlson: Only a small excerpt, can find whole story if you can stomach it on his site. Now this is beyond looney tunes:

NHS Surgeon Had Legs Cut off for “Sexual Gratification”

British authorities have sentenced surgeon Neil Hopper to 32 months behind bars after he amputated his legs for sexual gratification.

The case’s bizarre details emerged during its trial. Hopper long got off on the idea of removing his own body parts, going so far as to purchase pornography videos of men willingly having their genitals extracted. He sent a fellow fanatic named Marius Gustavson, whom officials previously jailed for leading an extreme body modification ring, a photo of his erect penis before making his move to rid himself of his legs.

How did he do it? Under Gustavson’s guidance, Hopper immersed his feet in dry ice while his wife and kids were away from home. When paramedics arrived, they believed he was suffering from sepsis. Hopper received £466,000 from insurers after running with that claim.

“It’s going to be awesome being a double amputee,” Hopper wrote in a text message before committing his crime. We doubt that prediction was correct.

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Jkelly's avatar

I always thought the like between body integrity identity disorder and trans was very blurred.

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

Yes but unlike body-identity disorder if you think only certain parts are wrong, you get to live the nightmare. But voluntary medical mutilation has been traditionally forbidden. You have to wonder why the medical profession drew that line where it did considering how homicidal and sadistic they are as an institution. My guess is that allowing for doctor-assisted mutilation would give away the game, just like MAID in Canada is doing right now.

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Jeff S's avatar

Reprise: "The crazy guy who cut off his legs is named "Hopper?" But of course. My girlfriend has one leg. Her name is Eileen. She works in a brewery. She's in charge of the hops..."

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Lori's avatar

You are too much and we love it!

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Lori's avatar

They are fanatics, hence mentally ill and need a sanitarium.

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Tim R's avatar

I waffle between it being idiocy and North Korea level brainwashing. I may be closer on the spectrum to idiot than to MENSA, but any product/service that can't stand on it's own merit and must be coerced ain't for me.

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Copernicus's avatar

Some dr person had a note on SS saying people will die because they can't get vaccines. I assumed they were referring to the Florida mandates being abolished.

Someone else commented that Kennedy is too stupid to realize that people are getting more chronic disease because life expectancy has increased. I asked, how then, would he explain those diseases showing up in younger people? As one example among several, I said that I know four people in three months who had strokes, two are <50. (One was jabbed, one not; did not mention that.). I've never in my life known personally someone under 50 who stroked. And now I know two. That's not normal. The original commenter dismissed my observation as statistically insignificant. And didn't address the other population-wide observations that I pointed to.

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

It's amazing how the genocide is culling the herd. Not only was it not as effective at killing us off as they would have liked but also selected survivors with certain traits of indomitability. I feel for all the idiots who unwittingly fell for the scam but part of me just thinks, "you made your bed...".

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George Burnet's avatar

But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Yesterday the Vigilant Fox said that during the attempted grilling of RFK Jr., Ron Johnson said that on Sept 9, the CDC will release a "high quality" study of vax-unvaxxed populations that's been suppressed for 25 years.

My older kid just turned 25 yesterday. I could have used that news in a more timely fashion.

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Kathy's avatar

If you want to know a little bit more about that study, check out a replay of yesterday’s episode of The Highwire. It is exciting!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I haven't watched it yet, will do so ASAP.

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Lisa's avatar

I wonder if it's the autism studies.

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

I’m a retired Delta Air Lines flight attendant. I loved Delta, until covid. Oh, things were getting weird before that. Like the time I arrived for a crew briefing to find that the male flight leader was wearing a wig, lipstick, and a female’s uniform. I spent the next 3 days hiding in the galley as much as I could. But when covid hit, and nearly every week there was some new personal protective equipment added to our uniforms, I knew I had entered the Twilight Zone and sooner or later we’d be forced to take a Mark of the Beast injection. And since I had already been irreparably harmed by a mandatory yellow fever vaccine years before, I could clearly see the Kabbalistic handwriting on the fuselage wall. Goodbye dream job, hello early retirement. 😞 Glad to hear Delta is recovering its sanity. But are they still flying the BLM and LGBTQ-ad nauseam flags on their Atlanta headquarters?

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Starsky's avatar

I had to take that mandatory yellow fever vaccine also. Required for flying into Japan, I believe? My flying career left me with a lot of health issues (remember the pesticide spray cans after landing in New Zealand? 🙄) I took a lot of flu shots also during that time; got sick anyway.

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I’m sorry to hear that, Starsky! Yes, I remember the insecticide on flights out of Africa. 😳 I never got sick with the flu (or malaria), although my doctor once tried to tell me I needed to get a flu shot. I told him I probably had a better immune system than he did because I got inoculated on the airplane everyday, being stuck in a metal tube for hours with people from every 1st, 2nd and 3rd-world country on Earth. I flew all during the first several months of the scamdemic and never got sick, thanks to God, in spite of having numerous conversations with first responders and emergency room physicians who had treated very ill people. The only times I ever got sick in all my years of flying was from sleeping in hotel rooms with those wall heaters blowing on me at night. One night, I got to my room in Detroit after midnight and it was 56° in the room. I had no choice but to sleep with the heater on and was sicker than a dog by the next morning…

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Lori's avatar

Twilight Zone for sure. Get a load of this story from Tucker Carlson: Only a small excerpt, can find whole story if you can stomach it on his site. Now this is beyond looney tunes:

NHS Surgeon Had Legs Cut off for “Sexual Gratification”

British authorities have sentenced surgeon Neil Hopper to 32 months behind bars after he amputated his legs for sexual gratification.

The case’s bizarre details emerged during its trial. Hopper long got off on the idea of removing his own body parts, going so far as to purchase pornography videos of men willingly having their genitals extracted. He sent a fellow fanatic named Marius Gustavson, whom officials previously jailed for leading an extreme body modification ring, a photo of his erect penis before making his move to rid himself of his legs.

How did he do it? Under Gustavson’s guidance, Hopper immersed his feet in dry ice while his wife and kids were away from home. When paramedics arrived, they believed he was suffering from sepsis. Hopper received £466,000 from insurers after running with that claim.

“It’s going to be awesome being a double amputee,” Hopper wrote in a text message before committing his crime. We doubt that prediction was correct.

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

😳😳😳😳

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Lori's avatar

Exactly and he is a doctor. I would NEVER let him touch me or mine.

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Michael Miller's avatar

Thanks for speaking up!

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

I asked Grok: Delta is still pro-DEI but (a) it found no evidence of BLM flags flying in 2025 and (b) Pride flags flew only in June of 2925. Not what I'd call "progress"....

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Take satisfaction in Delta's hero agent. I'll never forget when this happened. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/am0JYAb1syE

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

I remember that! Brilliant! The safety of the flight is the very first priority, and gate agents and flight crews are bound by federal law to disallow anyone on a flight who reasonably appears to be a threat of any sort. That includes people who are angry and making a scene in the gate area.

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Freebird's avatar

Flyer…I’m not what you’d call a frequent flyer, but for whatever it’s worth, the most awesome flight I ever experienced was on Delta. This was 40 years ago before all the airlines went woke and crazy, but the pilot of that long flight was an amazingly skilled aviator. We hit some turbulence and he smoothly navigated through it with never a bump! We could actually feel the plane making smooth turns. And they also served a great meal!

Nowadays I ride the SWA cattle car when necessary, as Delta no longer serves our mid-sized city. I miss the days when there was some class in the aviation world.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Good morning Mr President, Counselor, family and friends, bothers and sisters in Christ. Thank God for every blessing.

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Lorita's avatar

Stuck in Oregon. Wyden is not my senator, somebody super glued him to that seat. Well it is time to get out the tweezers and acetone.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

At the very least, use a putty knife knife and rubber mallet.

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Jeff S's avatar

Aluminum baseball bats are nice, too.

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C. Wilson's avatar

See my above comment. Water will do

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Lorita's avatar

OOOOO, I like that, yes.

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Full Name's avatar

I'm good with the acetone and tweezers as long as you use LOTS of acetone and have an open flame nearby...

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Not until we ditch vote by mail and those cheating machines

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Lorita's avatar

True

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C. Wilson's avatar

cyanoacrolite adhesives (super glues) are hydrostatic. Laymen's terms...they dissolve in water. That's why they have to be in airtight conditions to continue working.

I suggest you simply dump a bucket of water over his head. It will get where it is needed.

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Lorita's avatar

Wow, I learned something new. Yes water lots of water...

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Thanks for that. Sigh...was just researching this very thing.

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C. Wilson's avatar

I have an advantage. I used to be in the electronics industry and it's heavily used in applications for things like boards going to Mars. Mars is nothing new as a destination. It was a work in progress in the 1970s-80s!

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

He actually lives in NYC.

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Should be a law against that 😜

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Lori's avatar

we need term limits as these old coots have got to go.

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Monterey's avatar

I hear He Lives full time in the east coast now

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Lorita's avatar

Maybe renting the basement from the formerly known as Pres Cabbagehead.

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Lori's avatar

boiling water would do just fine to slowly melt the glue...

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Temo Morton's avatar

“all the notches were lost by the United States Senate, which mostly resembled an Adult Swim cartoon of a chaotic bar fight on midget wrestling night.” Jeff, what was fertilizing in your brain over last nite, that you can think up this awesome silliness?? LOL We love ya, man!

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Jeff S's avatar

Midget tossing is another interesting activity in bars.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

The absolute hypocrisy of Wyden and Pocahontas invoking child deaths and "sacrificing children" is beyond belief. Screaching meemies, Pharma money whores. Disgusting and embarrassing.

RFK Jr. held his own with facts, poise and composure.

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SM's avatar

The stamina of stupid people should be studied! Where do they find the energy for such bombastic behavior? They proudly hurl nonsense while tripping over their hypocrisy and landing ass up on national television 😂

Here’s my question…did they really think Kennedy would run out of there and hand his resignation to Trump? LOLOL

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Skenny's avatar

That energy comes from a torrential flood of money going into their bank accounts. The kind of money that white collar criminals murder for.

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Jeff S's avatar

Happy to read about it. Don't watch anymore. Thanks.

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Skenny's avatar

I feel the need to apologize to my family for not trying harder to become a congressman, where a fortune is somehow guaranteed, and it is rare to be convicted of stealing.

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Kathy's avatar

He is a bad**s, and so brilliant. Luckily for us, he says he has “ a taste for battle”!!!

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John Galt?'s avatar

I love that a 79 year old man is battling an army of 20-somethings in the social media space and leaving them in complete disarray. TAW

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I am in total awe of Trump's adaptability and intellect in this realm.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yes! But hes just another boomer!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Big pharma is at the heart of everything. From the vaccines to the diseases, they’re always there. The one place we need to make sure they’re not in is congress, but unfortunately, they’re there as well: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-ruling-class-of-the-united-states

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william howard's avatar

was a shock to see that any drugs had been rejected

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Bard Joseph's avatar

The drug trust created the British Empire which still rules us. Iran has the best opium.

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Michael Miller's avatar

Wow! RFK is a fearless champion for logical thinking, individual rights, and medical sanity. Thank God that these “health agencies”are getting cleaned out of corrupt, compromised, entitled, anti science, anti freedom officials!

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Michael Miller… yes he is! A fearless champion for us. What I don’t understand in Kennedy’s sane arguments is why he doesn’t nail the senators with the FACT that they should have absolutely no say whatsoever about mandates or vaccines given THEY WERE EXEMPT… they’re all cancor sore screaming (thank you Eric) to jab kids, risk even more autism for kids who can’t speak for themselves in a public school, while they were exempted!?!? HIT THEM BETWEEN THEIR VIRTUE SIGNALING EYES WITH THAT Mr RFKjr…

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Michael Miller's avatar

Great point that these weasels exempted themselves from the jab mandate! What did they know that we did not?

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Lisa's avatar

They exempted from Obamacare, too. I think.

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Michael Miller's avatar

Didn’t they also exempt themselves from insider trading restrictions??? Privileged bunch, yes??

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Peace's avatar

And exempted themselves from term limits. I'm seeing a pattern.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

🎯🎯🎯🎯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Kathy's avatar

Yes!!! And if any of them appeared to have taken it, it could’ve been a placebo. But impossible to deny that they were not mandated!

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Lori's avatar

Why were they exempt?

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Peace's avatar

Because they said so? That's all it takes, apparently, for this gang.

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