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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, were listening to all these things and were scoffing at Him. And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts, for that which is highly esteemed among men is detestable in the sight of God.”

— Luke 16:14-15 LSB

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TriTorch's avatar

...There is that wonderful story in the gospel of John where the scribes and Pharisees brought to Jesus a women taken in adultery, and attempting to trap him, asked if the women should be stoned according to the law of Moses.

Christ did not answer straight away, but rather stooped down and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he didn't hear them. The Pharisees persisted, and after a time Christ lifted himself up and answered, "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast the stone at her." And again, stooped down.

For me, this seemingly distracted gesture — the stooping down and writing on the ground — is Christ accessing the God inside himself. Christ then delivers the line that dis-empowers his opponents - and what an extraordinary remark it is - and then stoops again to re-commune with God.

What Christ shows us here, is that the creative imagination has the power to combat all enemies; that we are protected by the flow of our own inspiration. —Nick Cave, The Flesh Made Word

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. —Matthew 23:23-31

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

This story is a remarkable and moving part of the gospel, but I must interject that Jesus IS God. No accessing necessary. I am not familiar with Nick Cave or the title that I assume is a book, but just this excerpt is not scriptural. There is no spiritual power in our imagination, but in the Christ who dwells within the believer. We are not protected by the “flow of our own inspiration” (whatever that means), but by the power of the Holy Spirit who indwells the believer.

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Cyn's avatar

Begging to differ with this statement, “There is no spiritual power in our imagination”.

Our imagination is just another part of the divine expression in each of us. (God made humans in His likeness), thus I believe there is spiritual power in our imagination, driven by His spirit within each of us. What a dull world of humanity we’d be without God-given, individual imagination.

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Laura Barrett's avatar

YES!! All of the evil in this world is done by dull, boring, people who insist that everyone else follow the rules they create. When we as believers access our God given creativity, we run circles around evil, by the God given authority that dwells in us!

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Laura Barrett's avatar

How? Food is genetically modified for sure, but they aren’t dumping random MRNA into the food supply. That would be the most ineffective delivery system to be thought of. MRNA also isn’t magic. It would be be destroyed by our digestive system or excreted long before it was able to “ infect” the body, if consumed by mouth. Also the link you posted is designed to sell me something, not explain your comment.

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Dean's avatar

Well said.

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e.'s avatar

👏🏼 JESUS IS GOD!!! thank you Janice ❤️

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KB's avatar

and in ALL of us, but you either love it or block it... encourage the God in you or deny it and self-destruct. Is pretty simple. I love 'hello dave' on X headline.... 'your worst sin is that you betrayed yourself for nothing' .... satan got you to believe a lie and you fell for it not knowing you needed to do nothing, you were perfect just as you are. Same as vaxxinating...you could have done NOTHING and been just fine but have now invited this drama into your life b/c you listened to BS instead of your own heart.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Not everyone has God in them and no one is perfect but Christ.

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KB's avatar

the God shaped hole

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KB's avatar

how do you think you got it yourself? it wasn't from you

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WendeAnne's avatar

I have believed and repeated from the start of this nightmare! We must live by Faith not Fear.

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TriTorch's avatar

The irony here is breaking the meter. =) Love you Janice.

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Tom's avatar

Not in scripture, but I've heard it suggested that Jesus was writing out each man's hidden sin for him to see.

When Jesus preached the Gospel, He addressed the stumbling blocks in the way of the person to whom He was preaching. E.g., the rich young ruler, who said, (paraphrasing) "Good teacher, what must I do? I have followed the law from my youth." Jesus asked, "Why do you call me good?" The man should have responded that he called Him good because he is God in human flesh. The man didn't know Him.

The man also felt that his works justified him. Also, when told to sell everything and follow Jesus, the man went away sad, because he couldn't let go of his possessions.

To make a long reply even longer, Jesus knew what was in the hearts of the men who were testing Him by bringing the woman they were accusing. I find it plausible that He would write out their most hidden sins in front of them.

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Mark Leone's avatar

Maybe he was writing "Where is the man?"

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Jamie's avatar

I have heard that same opinion.

Whatever Jesus did write or show them, the men had to have realized they too were sinners, or at least felt convicted, as they walked away speechless!

I can only imagine 🙏

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Never thought that He may have been writing You shalt not...lie, kill, steal, covet...

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Tom's avatar

The specificity of His accounts is notable when he is sharing the Gospel. Another example is the woman at the well: (Paraphrasing) "You have had 5 husbands, and the man you are with now is not your husband."

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Mary C Irwin's avatar

I like the idea of Jesus reminding them that God wrote the 10 Commandments by writing them in the dirt with his finger. But there’s another place about a finger writing: the finger that writes MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN on the walls of Belshazzar’s palace. “You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting.” Jesus might have written *those* words in the dirt! Fun to speculate.

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Politico Phil's avatar

This is the central tenet. Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, the incarnate Son of God. He is The Word as Randall points out in both John 1 and Genesis 1.

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Dean's avatar

The operative adjective here is incarnate. Jesus was/is the incarnate Word. Preachers often are not clear about what that means. Incarnate is a Latinate word meaning “in the meat”. A more elegant way of saying the same thing is “in the flesh”. So Jesus was/is the component of the Godhead named the Word, and the Word clothed in human flesh is who Jesus is. The humanity of Jesus was mortal or else he could not have died. Jesus operated all his ministry life as a spirit filled human just as Adam was after his was created. Unlike Adam, Jesus continuously rejected the Satanic lie he could be better off operating independently from God, and thereby qualified himself as the Lamb of God to be sacrificed for Adam’s sin. The scripture says that Jesus was tempted in all points just like we are but as a human being dependent on the unfeeling spirit to lead and empower him. Refer to John 5 where Jesus is recorded clearly stating his complete dependence on the Father.

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POZIOMKA's avatar

Just wanted to add, that according to Torah, if a couple was caught in adultery, BOTH man and a woman were supposed to be stoned. Yet- they only brought a woman to be stoned.

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CStone's avatar

Which is why, when Yeshua said “If any on you are without sin, let him cast the first stone.” And one by one they stopped their stone and walked away.

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Dean's avatar

Excellent observation.

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Debra (Rural & Red Oregonian)'s avatar

Even after walking with him almost 50 years I am still astounded that God, the Creator of All, I AM, became flesh and lived amongst us. Just for him to come and experience our dirt and dust bodies is miraculous. Then he returns to his throne and sends Holy Spirit to live inside of us and speak to our spirits. How amazing and what a great love for his people, his creation, his chosen, is that?!!

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Debra, amen to that! Your comments brought to mind a poem I wrote 10 years ago. It’s on my Substack but behind a paywall, so I’ll paste it here:

Which Cost You More?

I ponder the price You paid

For my sin, the Holy One betrayed.

You purchased my release

From bondage and brought me peace.

I urge my mind to fathom

What kind of love would pay sin’s price;

And wonder which cost You more,

Which was the greater sacrifice?

To die for me or to live for me?

Both surely pierced Your soul.

How dark and dreary was that road

From freedom to captivity?

From the Holy of Holies to human birth,

To walk this sin-steeped earth.

By love the curtain was torn:

You lived and died. Which cost You more?

Was Your first breath of air tainted with sin

A hurtful reminder of where You had been?

The darkness of earth a cruel contrast

To Your glorious eternal past?

If I could comprehend how holy You are

I might know why You chose to die.

If I knew the depth of Your love for me

Perhaps I’d understand Calvary.

But more than that, I long to grasp

How You could leave Your throne

And live among us, suffering our sin

Dying daily, feeling alone.

Day after day, were Your steps subdued,

Your heart broken by the burden of sin?

Hurting always but loving enough

To bring forgiveness to its end.

Lord,

To live or die,

Which cost You more?

©️Janice Powell 2013

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Debra (Rural & Red Oregonian)'s avatar

Beautiful! We get a little taste, a little glimps of his love as a parent.

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Dean's avatar

This may sound like I quibbling but I find many are foggy concerning the biblical statements about the dirty and the humanity of Christ. The operative adjective to consider here is incarnate. The spiritual component of Jesus was/is the Word per John 1. Preachers often are not clear about what that means. Incarnate is a Latinate word meaning “in the meat”. A more elegant way of saying the same thing is “in the flesh”. So Jesus was/is the component of the Godhead named the Word, and the Word clothed in human flesh is who Jesus is. The humanity of Jesus was mortal or else he could not have died. Jesus operated all his ministry life as a spirit filled human just as Adam was after his was created. Unlike Adam, Jesus continuously rejected the Satanic lie he could be better off operating independently from God, and thereby qualified himself as the Lamb of God to be sacrificed for Adam’s sin. The scripture says that Jesus was tempted in all points just like we are but as a human being dependent on the unfeeling spirit to lead and empower him. Refer to John 5 where Jesus is recorded clearly stating his complete dependence on the Father.

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daverkb's avatar

Dean ... I like this post.

Also, I like word derivation in particular. Like to know that words like Pope derived from the Greek/πάππας, Romanized as páppas, literally meaning 'father'. I like knowing that the Russian 'паппа' meaning 'pappa' or 'dad' comes from the Greek. I also note that when Christ uses words like 'father', 'son' and 'children', as he habitually always does, the family construct is emphasized. This, I note, is something that the corporatized Marxist state loaths, and so full of contempt and hate attempts to raze such to the ground. I believe that transhumanism is aimed in the same direction. That is, does a cyborg have a mother and father? A brother and/or sister? No, this cannot be, because a cyborg created out of synthetic biology and it processes is no longer strictly speaking genetically human. This maybe a simplification, but one that makes a specific point.

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Dean's avatar

Etymology is helpful to understanding use of words. Glad you enjoy that pursuit as well.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Amen Janice.

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Bones's avatar

Not sure you’re correct about she is not having any limitations here. If he was 100% in his fully God state he would not have had to go and pray all the time. Jesus, elected to have certain limitation’s here, and one of them most likely was the need to do as we do to intentionally seek communion with the father. We have no idea what the Trinity entails. We have no idea what it means to be all God and all man. It’s like like being a particle and a wave. We don’t know when it’s either. I think we need to just let the mystery be the mystery.

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CitizenA's avatar

Keep your old physical Bibles. Why do I say that? Because what is happening in Xi Jinping’s China could happen anywhere including here. CHINA IS REWRITING THE BIBLE (which hadn’t been released at the time of Michael Youssef’s book) BUT YOUSSEF SHARED PORTIONS THAT HAVE BECOME PUBLIC‼️

According to pastor Michael Youssef, in his book “Is the End Near?”

Quote from pages 57 & 58:

“Now brace yourself for the Communist version of this story (about the adulterous woman that they wanted to stone to death) After the crowd of accusers departs, Jesus tells the woman “I too am a sinner. But if the law could only be executed by men without blemish, the law would be dead.” Then Jesus picks up stones Himself - and He stones the woman to death.” This is blasphemy on every level.”

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REWRITING THE BIBLE -

As part of a push to "sinicize" religion, the Chinese Communist Party has embarked on a 10-year project to rewrite the Bible and other religious texts. 

The 10-year project to rewrite the Bible, Quran and other sacred texts is all part of Xi Jinping’s quest to make the faithful serve the party rather than God. 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/chinese-communist-party-rewriting-bible

Representative Mike Gallagher (R-WI) cited two cases of the CCP rewriting portions of the Bible. The first from the account in the Gospel of John of Jesus telling the woman caught in adultery to “go, and from now on sin no more,” after telling the scribes and Pharisees, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her (John 8:3-11, ESV).” A textbook from a Chinese university appeared in 2020 with the account from the Gospel of John rewritten to end with “Jesus himself stoning the adulterous woman to death,” according to Rep. Gallagher.

The second is a report that CCP authorities in Henan province “forced Protestant churches to replace the Ten Commandments with Xi Jinping quotes,” changing the first commandment from, “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me,” (Exodus 20:3, KJV) to, “Resolutely guard against the infiltration of Western ideology.”

https://www.persecution.org/2023/07/20/chinese-communist-party-government-rewrites-portions-of-the-bible/

The estimated 100 million Christians in China make the eradication of Christianity from China difficult. Chairman Mao tried and was unsuccessful. President Xi prefers a more subtle tactic than Mao’s, a campaign to “Sinicize” religion to make it more compatible with the teachings of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

While China may technically allow Christianity, it only allows a version of Christianity remade in the image of the CCP. These developments, among many others, make this a critical time in the history of religion in China. On Friday, the Vatican officially renewed its controversial deal with Beijing from 2018, making it even more so.

➡️ China To Christians: We're Rewriting The Bible, And You'll Use It Or Else

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daverkb's avatar

To me, and although a Sino-rewrite of the Bible is surprising, I take it as good news. Why? Because it is a prior admission from the Chinese state apparatus that there is something 'out there' which is so threatening to Communist state power that it has to tamper with it. And do these deluded Commies really think that people will not see and get what is going on? And how such a brain dead plan as the Commie Bible will only serve to make people hunger and thirst after The Real Deal?

So, and with this, the Commie Chinese state's days are numbered. It may take decades for the Commie Party to self-destruct. But nonetheless, I know that the self-destruction of the Commies in China is already written, even though I at 74 years will never see the day of the coming end.

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CitizenA's avatar

SORRY… here is the link to the headline of the article in the last line above:

https://www.frc.org/op-eds/china-to-christians-were-rewriting-the-bible-and-youll-use-it-or-else

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EMME's avatar

AMEN‼️

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POZIOMKA's avatar

Preach sister!!❤️❤️

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chuck kutchera's avatar

The content of the adulteress women starts in John 7 where JESUS goes to the Fesst of Tabernacles. HE says this on the last great day of the feast

On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. Here HE’S saying that HE’S the Fountain of Living Waters. In John 8 it say on the next day which is called Simchat Torah which is Rejoicing in the Torah. Noticed that they said “ The Law says she should be stoned .” A question about the Law when they were celebrating the Law. They’ve rejected JESUS already. HIS response could be tied back to this

O LORD, the hope of Israel, All who forsake You shall be ashamed. “Those who depart from Me Shall be written in the earth, Because they have forsaken the LORD, The fountain of living waters.”

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Jeff C's avatar

J Vernon McGee (and many other commentators) have suggested that what Jesus wrote on the ground was the sins of her accusers, perhaps even the names of women with whom they had committed adultery.

This is all speculation (as McGee made clear) as the Bible doesn't tell us. But I have to agree with Janice, there was no need to "access" his godhood. Jesus was fully God and fully man, He didn't switch back and forth. I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but it does seem like that's what you are saying.

The dual nature of Christ was settled long ago by the early church fathers, yet it still for some reason causes division nearly two millennia later.

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TriTorch's avatar

Jeff, this was just an uplifting interpretation. I knew by posting it this would happen but it was worth it because it is just beautiful.

The irony is of course that everyone would put on their scribe suit and dismantle it not knowing the intention behind it.

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Jeff C's avatar

Hey no problem, some of us have a hair trigger when on "heresy patrol". Not sure I understand the intent of your exercise though, I'd hardly call pointing out potentially false doctrine regarding the essentials of the faith as being a scribe. This isn't hair-splitting legalism here but a foundational principle.

But glad we are agreed on the essentials of the faith.

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TriTorch's avatar

No exercise. The only intent was to share something beautiful in a dark world growing ever darker.

There's this notion that there is only one proper interpretation of Christ's words and works. I do not buy into this. He will reach out to different people in different ways to accommodate their unique perceptions, they just have to be open to and accepting of Him. When he said this:

"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men"

This is what I believe he was referring to. You may disagree and point to settled evidence that an interpretation is wrong, but that is exactly the point I am making here. If the goal is to follow Him and get others to do the same then barring the way by dogging their personal analysis defeats this purpose.

Jesus who was both the son of God and the son of man spoke to every man. He opened the doors of his kingdom and beckoned to everyone. He showed them the path and asked them to join him there.

Good chatting with you sir, we certainly agree on the essentials . Always a pleasure.

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Tom's avatar

It's important that we seek the most coherent interpretations of doctrine by verifying scripture with scripture, and in the proper context.

He knows the worldview of the original reader, and He knows our worldview, and He knows that we can put ourselves in their past shoes, but they could not put themselves in our future shoes.

The supernatural nature of the Bible is apparent in its coherence across millenia, among many other evidences.

And that coherence brings us to Truth. THE Truth, of which there is one. The Holy Spirit in the believer will lead him to the Truth.

You're right in that He will reach out to different people in different ways. But there is one Truth, Jesus Christ, the Word incarnate, and He does not change to suit men.

Psalm 119:160 (ESV)

"The sum of Your word is truth, and every one of Your righteous rules endures forever."

This is the Psalmist, praying to Yahweh.

I agree that we can each find the Truth when empowered by His Spirit. But I am convinced that this Truth is apparent in it's coherence, and not in my own understanding.

The danger is apparent in the myriad of false gospels being preached today, and more false gospels are forthcoming in the day of deception addressed in 2 Thessalonians 2. It's easy to fashion a false Christ, as we have seen many do. He said, "Believe in the One My Father sent."

I'm not suggesting, at all, that you are fashioning a false Christ. I'm merely pointing out the danger, in an age of deception, if reliance on the understanding of men is taken to an extreme.

Brother, please don't take this as contentious or a rebuke. It's sent with love. We're all working out our salvation in fear and trembling here. Thank you for generating this discussion!

Maranatha!

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CStone's avatar

Exactly, TriTorch.

The ‘way’ in which some read the Word and PERCEIVE the Word is called ‘PRDS’ (pronounced PaRDeS’

Peshat (פְּשָׁט‎) – "surface" ("straight") or the literal (direct) meaning.[7]

Remez (רֶמֶז‎) – "hints" or the deep (allegoric: hidden or symbolic) meaning beyond just the literal sense. In the version of the New Zohar, Re'iah.

Derash (דְּרַשׁ‎) – from Hebrew darash: "inquire" ("seek") – the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences.

Sod (סוֹד‎) – "secret" ("mystery") or the esoteric/mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation.

And I have found this to be true.

Yeshua perceived the meaning of His Father’s Instruction from the literal meaning to the ‘secret’ or hidden Truths. He taught in such a way that a child could see the basic truth, and the scholar could dig deeper and find the deeper meaning of His teaching. Like the man who found the pearl, went and sold all he had to buy the field so that he would be able to have the ‘pearl of great price’.

Because, let’s face it. I’m not the brightest bulb, so I mostly understand the Word on the most basic level. Yet occasionally He gives me insight to a little deeper understanding. I’m thankful that He did it in such a way that the simple can understand, yet the scholar will not be bored, but get excited to dig further that the simple-minded (like me) would be able to.

Best to you, my friend.

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Cinghale's avatar

Have any of y’all listened to the Bema Podcast? Just listened to the first 2. Would love to hear y’all’s thoughts

https://www.bemadiscipleship.com/?season=1

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Kelli's avatar

I loved this, thanks for posting it. (...going "through it" on the career front right now, and this cheered me greatly.) Have you read any Emmanuel Swedenborg?

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TriTorch's avatar

I have not read Emmanuel Swedenborg, where should I start?

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Kelli's avatar

https://swedenborg.com/

I started with some of the "Off the Left Eye" videos.

The Where to Start video on this home page will likely show enough for you to decide any interest level. 😀

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Freebird's avatar

The same inability to grasp the dual nature of Christ is very similar to the problem so many have with the Trinity. Those are difficult concepts for us to wrap our minds around…but become easier when we submit our minds to understanding God’s word, meaning to realize that as a child of God we must have the humility to come as a child, with child-like faith, not being proud in our intellect and ability to reason out the mysteries of God.

I think this is why so many intellectuals reject God or faith in God. They use their reasoning to make sense of everything, and it may work well for them up to a point…the point at which you must unscrew the inscrutable, as I heard a preacher say….

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Cyn's avatar

I believe we are all divine expressions of God, experiencing in human form, here on earth. We are not the first or only creations of God. Lucifer was originally also a son of God who rebelled and has never repented and returned to his original status.

We are self-separated from our original relationship with God by our sinful nature, though we have been forgiven by His grace and the sacrifice of His son, in human form, should we choose to acknowledge and accept, along with the Holy Spirit, which is God incarnate; the Trinity.

The disconnect is within each of us until we fully re-member with whom we truly are. We, as humans, were originally created, in the likeness of God. This return to our original status is only accomplished by our denouncing the sin that separates us from God, our faith in His promise, and the acceptance of His gift of Jesus’ sacrifice, in human form, to serve as our Savior.

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Krystine Kercher's avatar

Be wary of being deceived by Satan.

While much of what you have to say here is true, what you have said about Lucifer is not in keeping with scripture.

Lucifer is a fallen angel. He is not a son of God. The Bible makes it clear in the various passages where angelic beings are mentioned that:

1. They were created by God to be His servants

2. They can be extremely powerful, but their power was granted to them to be used only at God's express command and within His divine will.

3. They think and reason, and interact with God, with us, with each other, with animals, and with all of creation.

4. Lucifer aspired to become something that he was not, to replace God, but like all created beings and despite his tremendous power and previously high position in heaven, he is still finite and limited, and is not capable of overthrowing or displacing God.

5. So; in his rebellion, he was cast down and bound/limited to here, on this earth.

6. Angels were not offered a means to forgiveness once they chose to disobey. There is NO redemption possible for Lucifer.

7. They can appear to humans in human form, but they can also appear in other forms as well (as in Ezekiel's vision). This also has implications re: the Nephilim as well as demonic possession/demonic activity.

8. The angelic forces of good and evil battle it out unseen in the heavenly realm, and their battles often have consequences for us here in the temporal realm, as when a message Daniel sought from God was delayed in reaching him.

9. Satan/Lucifer roams the earth like a raging lion, seeking whom he will devour, however, as in the case of Job, he is NOT PERMITTED to go beyond the strict limits that God has set on his depredations.

10. Satan/Lucifer is the accuser of the brethren.

11. When the new heaven and new earth come to pass, we will be higher than the angels and we will judge them.

12. When this old earth and the old heaven pass away and are thrown into the lake of fire, Satan/Lucifer will also be thrown into the lake of fire along with all fallen angels.

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Cyn's avatar

I stand corrected; Satan was originally a creation of God, as are we, and all other beings, which many refer to, perhaps incorrectly, the creations of God as his children; sons and daughters of God. Thank you.

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AKQuiltingGramma's avatar

Jeremiah 17:13 “Lord, the hope of Israel, all who abandon You will be put to shame. All who turn away from Me will be written in the dirt, for they have abandoned the Lord, the fountain of living water.”

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Tom's avatar

I often see Christians preaching holiness being called "pharisees." This is done by people who do not understand doctrine.

Pharisees practiced "righteousness" for the sake of self-aggrandizement, and self-justification. They "white-knuckled" it for the sake of puffing themselves up. The leaven of the pharisees.

Christians practicing sound doctrine are obedient when they, through the Spirit, put to death the deeds of the flesh. Through the Spirit.

My failures are all mine, and I often pray that Yahweh will grant me true repentance.

My successes are of the Spirit.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Great points, Tom, and while we’re mentioning doctrine, please let us all pray, as JC requests, for “the Supreme Court to take a bulldozer to the Chevron doctrine”.

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nt's avatar

Bulldozer to Chevron ! 🙏

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Politico Phil's avatar

Amen. That was the most important part of today's C&C and a fitting note to close on!

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Dean's avatar

Spot on if I understand correctly the meaning of your words. You made me think of Romans 8 with your phraseology.

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randall stoehr's avatar

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%201%2CGenesis%201&version=KJV

In the beginning was the Word.....John 1 Genesis 1

The powers of words. Where would we be without it?

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GG's avatar

Hebrews 4:1 - For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

I also think about the fact that in Genesis, God spoke, and it came into being.

Also, Proverbs 18:21 - The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.

Yes, words are very powerful. It's why leftists strive so hard to control the language.

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Amy C.'s avatar

THIS: "Yes, words are very powerful. It's why leftists strive so hard to control the language."

Well said, CG!

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

But the Word is...God made flesh.

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Dean's avatar

...or perhaps better put “enveloped” in flesh.

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Dawn B's avatar

Check this meaning of "word" in Jn 1:1 as logos. Translation leaves a lot of interpretations to be made. IDK

https://www.bitchute.com/video/RIK8eyHXZJw9/

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TB's avatar

Logos (λόγος) is simply the Greek word for "word". John's Gospel clearly parallels the beginning of Genesis (In the beginning God created ... God said, "let there be ..." vs "In the beginning was the Word... all things were created through Him..."), so it seems intentional that we make connections there. God created by speaking, and the power of His words was such that it caused the universe to exist?

Some scholars say that in the cultural context, it would have been understood that the "Word" here refers to an attribute of a deity's power that is personified (sometimes called a "hypostasis"). God's Word is so powerful that it takes on a partially-independent existence, and now you've got the beginnings of the Trinity...

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Dawn B's avatar

Thanks good point... Words have power and multiple meanings.

Whether "word" means logos or not, it was just something I saw that made me think. I get the definition from the context but the magnitude that verse is hard to grasp.

I was raised learning about the trinity but I have reservations about man's doctrines. There is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, but there is something off with the trinity doctrine I haven't figured out yet. I could be wrong but it is part of questioning and learning and it does not affect my salvation.

I don't like that they say they are equal for one. I do not think they are equal, but are a part of God. They have different purposes and are controlled by God the Father.

If they were equal, they would know the same things and be able to do the same things, but they can't.

I questioned an excellent pastor and he explained it well but not convincingly. He did admit trinity word is not in the Bible and the doctrine is man made...but Biblical...

I am not going to take a pastor's word for anything unless I see it in the Bible and my spirit is well with it.

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TB's avatar

Yeah, "trinity" is just a word we came up with to explain what the Bible says about God/Jesus/Spirit. eg, Jesus claims to be the God of Israel and have the power to do things only God can do, but he also prays to the Father so they aren't the same person... and the Spirit comes down on Jesus as a dove so the Spirit is separate too, and so forth. We try to understand it as best we can, and many theologians down through the centuries have had their turn writing about it.

Whether they are precisely "equal" and in what sense (eg you pointed out, they can't be totally identical since they know different things at different times) and how the relationship between them works, well it's probably not something we can really know exactly as humans, since we only know what God has revealed. My take is that God is so far above us, that for all practical purposes we should treat all three persons as equally great anyway, and if we're not sure about anything, then just stick to the parts of the Bible that are more clear. We're called to follow our Lord, not to correctly understand every fact about His being.

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Dean's avatar

Logos correct?

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Dawn B's avatar

I just found it interesting. It's hard to imagine what we do not know.

If Logos means the principle governing the cosmos then it makes better sense and a deeper meaning for an omnipotent God - Creator.

In the beginning was the Word... and the word was God...

God is (the) Logos according to this definition of logos.

Since words in language can have many meanings we determine meaning by context.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

After reading comments from Janice and Tritorch, I cannot unsee the group of six devotees of destruction sitting around that MSNBC table, seemingly unfamiliar with Jesus’ teachings.

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Soujourner's avatar

I don't often comment on people's understanding of scripture because I enjoy learning what folks think. Once I heard a teacher wonder if Jesus was perhaps writing out the sins of the people in the crowd, generally speaking like "theft"..."lies"...etc and when the crowd read the sin, they each individually turned away.

It remains the same today: none of us are sinless.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

I remember a sermon on these verses, which cast several different ideas of the significance and symbolism of Christ using his finger to write in the dirt. The 10 Commandments were written by God’s finger in stone. Christ is God and His finger once again possibly wrote a commandment. Supposedly the actual original language of Christ’s words were not “He who is without sin, cast the first stone,” but, “He who is without THIS sin, cast the first stone.” Christ knew the hearts of these Pharisees. They were not just guilty of sin, as we all are, they were guilty of adultery. Did Christ simply rewrite the commandment not to commit adultery in the dirt at His feet? Did he perhaps use his finger once again to write the commandment in ‘stone’ for them to see? I can’t wait to get to heaven and get that question answered. Nevertheless the Pharisees knew they were guilty and walked away. In all things I want the light of truth to shine: let our political leaders have their deeds, good and bad, shown in truth, let our medical leaders and policy leaders and military leaders and corporate leaders and religious leaders, and so on and so forth have their deeds, good and bad, shown in truth! Let the light of truth shine and expose the good and the bad, so we can all walk in the light of truth!!!

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TB's avatar

Did he perhaps write from the Prophets, where God calls out the people of Israel for figuratively committing adultery against him by chasing after other gods? And/or a reference to things that these Pharisees were chasing after instead of God? Interesting thought.

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Dean's avatar

Wow! Good post!!!

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Krystine Kercher's avatar

I second what Janice - Words Beyond Me had to say about this, but I also want to point out that what Jesus was writing in the dust had to be something pretty powerful. Some people have speculated that it was the Ten Commandments, which would make sense in this context with "he that is without sin, let him cast the first stone."

They would know, reading what He wrote in the dust at their feet that they had a serious problem.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Phunny how Pharisee and Pharma begin with letter phi.

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Tom's avatar

"If you get 'your' jab, then you're a good person." It's a gospel of works.

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Krystine Kercher's avatar

It's actually more apropos that Pharma is derived from the ancient Greek word, Pharmakeia, which means sorcery.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

It was just a joke. I did read Homeric Greek (2 years) in graduate school.

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TB's avatar

I mean... it's kinda like how Satan and Science both begin with 'S'? But God and Gluttony both begin with 'G'...

(By which I mean, it's only meaningful if you already have a reason to associate the two words for some reason.)

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Dean's avatar

🤭

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”And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?” And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!“

‭‭Mark‬ ‭7‬:‭5‬-‭9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/59/mrk.7.5-9.ESV

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Kat's avatar

The Jewish leaders were always seeking power over the people, not obedience to God. Their constant unyielding rules were just stumbling blocks for the people seeking God. We still have leaders in the churches doing this. Repent and be baptized is a must do, as Jesus was our example for this. Most of the other rules are a power play.

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Dawn B's avatar

Janice, just came across Luke 16:14-15 myself and thought, nothing has changed since then. The same group of scoffers and lovers of money control the vast majority of people now.

I am happy to be "low."

Philippians 2:3-4 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.

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Dean's avatar

Good reminder of how the spirit will lead us to operate in this life.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

This is how we know. Read the Good book.

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NinaG's avatar

🔥🔥🔥🔥

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BBS's avatar

Trump 2024! Per NavyVet in Epoch Times: "FJB and the 2000 Mules he rode in on!"

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ha! Love that! 😆😁

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Cathy's avatar

Good one!!

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Amy C.'s avatar

Best line ever!

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Double Mc's avatar

Careful, that could get you sent to jail.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The more of us that speak up, the safer we all are.

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BBS's avatar

You are absolutely correct. Tucker explains who and what Nikki Haley is. Don't be fooled!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Iowa Final Analysis

No GOP candidate has ever won the Iowa Caucus by more than 12 points. Trump just won’t it by 30 with 95% reporting.

This HISTORIC landslide is a catastrophic indicator for DeSantis, Haley, and Vivek supporters, as well as the Dems.

Trump LOST Iowa in 2016 to Ted Cruz, 27.6% to 24.3%. Trump just secured 51% of the vote by himself in 2024. That’s a seismic shift. Even if the anti-Trumpers were to go all-in on one candidate, they STILL couldn’t beat Trump.

Trump’s base are energized and just made an emphatic statement to kick off election season. The media are in a full-blown panic because they know this performance indicates their propaganda is not working. Trump is more popular than ever.

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/iowa-final-analysis

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WilliamD's avatar

I hate to disagree with Jeff, but Nikki Haley is not one of the good guys. A win for her would be a defeat for just about everything conservatives hold dear. Actually, there are only three good guys: Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy. Pence may have been the worst of the bad guys, but not by much.

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jjinUK64's avatar

💯

Nikki is the worst possible type of candidate — a warmongering neocon RINO, who will say literally anything her donors tell her to. And her donors are the uniparty swamp crocodiles.

Nikki is just the Republican's Hilary Clinton. A very, very bad and dangerous candidate. Any hope of reform or change would die instantly, if she was elected. [Which is why so many big donors, including Democratic donors, want her.]

On the flip side, Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy are all good men, just of different flavours / personal styles. It's a shame Vivek did not beat out Hayley — I would have liked to see him stay in the race, and keep crow-barring the Overton Window open. But he ran a clean, honest campaign, and handled the defeat very gracefully and pragmatically. I hope he sticks around in politics, he is the future of the R party, imo.

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Susan Seas's avatar

RamaSWAMPY is a top level Big pHARMA guy. I refuse to believe anyone there is a “good guy” He is still making money off the jabbs from what I’ve read.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Ok, well I just explained in great detail that this is not correct.

But you're free to believe it, of course. That's up to you.

I don't really understand this puritanical end of the 'freedom' movement who now seem to be implying that *all medicine* is evil, and so is anyone who ever went near the sector. That is clearly a ridiculous position.

Lots of medical products are unnecessary and harmful, without a doubt. The sector is also one of the most corrupt out there, especially at the top, and in the parts that dovetail with State research & defence.

Having said that, we obviously need hospitals. And doctors. And safe medicines like antibiotics, etc. These things are not evil, they are necessary and good. I think the focus should be on instituting radical transparency so we can root out the bad (rather than burning down the entire edifice and then realising we don't have any medicines to help the sick). Just my two cents.

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PJ's avatar

I have loved ones walking around today who simply wouldn't be here if not for the various pharmaceuticals they continue to ingest. I wouldn't want to take what they take, but I prefer they are here with me, and not dead. The evil is in the lying and the fake journal reports. There's a lot about the bureaucratic agencies and big pharma and big government that needs to be cleaned up.

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

Although what you say is true, Vivek was never Big Pharma. He started and sold an alternative BioTech company and has since moved on to an anti-ESG company.

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Susan Seas's avatar

And I have loved ones who are not here because of medical treatment, so there is always that too.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Yes, I completely agree PJ.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for your sensible and in depth analysis. Too many people want perfect even though they themselves are not nor can anyone be. So that’s completely unrealistic and counterproductive.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Is this your great detail? If it isn’t than I missed it. On the flip side, Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy are all good men, just of different flavours / personal styles. It's a shame Vivek did not beat out Hayley — I would have liked to see him stay in the race, and keep crow-barring the Overton Window open. But he ran a clean, honest campaign, and handled the defeat very gracefully and pragmatically.

Maybe you should check out the above video someone shared and follow Viveks past.

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Vicki's avatar

Vivek is also sponsored by BIG money from Epstein associates. We know only the tip of that Epstein iceberg. What occurred on that island probably would put Molech to shame.

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jjinUK64's avatar

You need to be more specific if you're going to make an accusation like that.

What do you mean by "he is sponsored by BIG money from Epstein associates"?

I keep hearing people say this stuff, and then I go deep diving looking for any evidence of such, and there is none.

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Vicki's avatar

I can't figure out how to paste in a screenshot, but FOX NEWS reported: Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein associate funneled large donations to Vivek Ramaswamy, several Dems....on January 5, 2024. It was reported by Joe Schoffstall and Cameron Cawthorne. I found this on Telegram posted by Joe Rogan.

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Charlotte's avatar

Trump supporter here. I liked Vivek too- I do think he is the smartest guy in the race, HOWEVER, I watched this video about his pharma connections and now I’m a bit wary

https://twitter.com/FinanceLancelot/status/1696735857690939796

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jjinUK64's avatar

Respectfully, this keyboard warrior is not understanding how a development pipeline works.

Let me explain:

The business of developing medicines involves having multiple products in your "pipeline", meaning that you are researching, developing and trialing a range of medicines. This is basic risk management — many of the drugs will fail, only a few will ever be successful, so you must have a healthy pipeline in order to stay afloat.

Not all the products will be viable, but when you hit on one that is, it could become hugely valuable, very fast. For financial and legal prudence, the big firms tend to 'wrap' each drug dev line into a dedicated subsidiary structure. That way, if one drug fails, they just wind down that one sub-company (that existed as a 'wrapper' for that one enterprise). This is also done to keep general IP / assets away from legal suits against a specific product.

It's industry standard practice is what I'm saying, and it's not nefarious behaviour, it's what large (particularly publicly traded) companies do — it's a huge company, but actually it's a series of small companies doing this and that, living under one umbrella / corporate family.

Axovant is the sub-company created to pursue trials of a specific Alzheimer’s drug. That drug was not successful. Many of the drugs they develop are not / will not be successful.

Investors still continue to invest because the rest of the pipeline is solid, and drug dev is a long timeline business. 1 or more of your pipeline trials failing to be a winner is not a company-ending issue, because the rest of the pipeline counterbalances those expected failures. This is not a "scam" of any kind. I think a lot of these folks don't know much about the businesses /industries they are critiquing (or possibly are acting in bad faith, but I prefer to assume it's a misunderstanding before jumping right to presumption of malice).

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

You are so wrong. How can anyone simply believe “what I read”, after all we know today? Shame.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I didn’t read if from others opinions. Perhaps you should check into him yourself too. I loved what he was saying, I just do not trust him because of where his money comes from.

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CH's avatar

It seems that way but I find it very interesting that he came out with that whole "save Trump" campaign just before the Iowa Caucus. He literally shot himself in the foot so you have to wonder why he did that.

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Susan Seas's avatar

That was interesting. He is interesting for sure.

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nt's avatar

Agree, and Haley (3rd) also said two-person race …

I’m so tired of DUMB PEOPLE!!!!!

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OnTheJump's avatar

He is going to be great at " banging the drum " for Trump. Let's roll !

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Karen Walby Ph. D.'s avatar

Vivek is not a good guy, just very good at making a persuasive argument. He is a chameleon who changes positions at the drop of a hat. Also in bed with big Pharma.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

And big tech. Check out his company Datavant that he started during the pandemic.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

agreed. I think I might like a trump-vivek page

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Jennifer Beebe's avatar

Totally agree. ‼️‼️

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Amy C.'s avatar

Couldn't agree more!

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MayBella82's avatar

I read there were democrats who went in, changed their party to vote for Haley. It is another Democrat way of cheating.

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Jeff C's avatar

Amen, I had a double-take at that too. I hope Jeff Childers was just being polite in the spirit of unity (as President Trump was). If he truly believes Haley is one of the good guys then it raises some pretty big questions regarding his judgement. That Haley is a war-mongering neocon and a grifter, is beyond doubt. Her calls for government regulation of who's allowed to say what on social media is another automatic disqualifier.

If someone told me I had to vote for either Biden or Haley at gunpoint, I'd vote for Biden and tell them to then pull the trigger.

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Critical Thinker's avatar

My take was that Haley didn't have anything the Left would attack her about...mostly because she's a warmongering deep state stooge just like them.

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Dena's avatar

From Rand Paul. https://nevernikki.net/

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

Where in this article did Jeff Childers say Haley was one of the good guys????

I'm sorry if I am missing something here??

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Thoughtful's avatar

Technically, Jeff Childers could be speaking with very intentional specificity. Nikki Haley is not a "guy." Ergo, his opinion that there are no "bad guys" is not an endorsement for Haley. He is silent on the gals... 😉

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Jeff C's avatar

Good point! He is a lawyer after all, I should have spotted that loophole.

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

this is another reason I come here. The written word is very easy to manipulate and I value being able to understand the different meanings people will attribute to the same phrase. I want to continue to be able to hear all viewpoints and then critically assess them.

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Dean's avatar

🤭 Good point! After, all, words have meaning.

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Debra (Rural & Red Oregonian)'s avatar

With "The Word" having the final word.

So. :)

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Jeff C's avatar

End of the first section:

"There are no bad guys in the race; Republicans enjoy a deep bench. It’s a blessing to have multiple viable, competitive Republican candidates in the race, so that for as long as possible democrats can’t focus their attacks on a single candidate."

Technically he said she is not one of the bad guys (as opposed to being one of the good guys) but that seems like hair splitting.

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

oh, i took that to mean that Jeff Childers was cheering on having several candidates to keep the libtards busy with whack-a-mole. Not that all those candidates were good guys. Thanks for clarifying.

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Dean's avatar

🤭 Good point! After, all, words have meaning.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

There were stories out in recent days disclosing her funding by Dem big money guys.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I'd pull the trigger first.

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Cathy's avatar

Lol. So funny.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Agree. And let’s not forget her 100% support for Israel, which is now in its 4th month of genocide against the Palestinian civilian population. Candace Owens is right — Nikki for President of Israel, not USA!!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Lies from the Marxist Left. For a genocide, the ‘forever refugees’ calling themselves Palestinians sure have flourished and vastly increased in numbers and power over the decades.

Who carried out an inhuman massacre on innocent people on October 7, 2023?

Who cries, “Death to the Jews” and calls for their extermination without ceasing?

https://www.israelunwired.com/palestine-is-the-nazi-weapon-that-seeks-to-finish-hitlers-final-solution/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=%22Palestine%22+Is+The+Nazi+Weapon+That+Seeks+To+Finish+Hitler+s+Final+Solution&utm_campaign=%22Palestine%22+Is+The+Nazi+Weapon+That+Seeks+To+Finish+Hitler+s+Final+Solution

https://youtu.be/KP-CRXROorw

You think Hitler should have been allowed to finish the job. We see you.

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CeCe Brown's avatar

I'm a Never Nikki gal

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TB's avatar

As I saw online... if Israel is truly attempting to commit genocide, they sure aren't very good at it. :/

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Credenda's avatar

Thank you WilliamD. When I read that I just about spewed my coffee all over my pooch. Nikki Haley is the Neocon Dream. She will have us at war in a major way within days. She’s being pushed by the dems and neocons for a reason. And then there’s the rumor that she will be Trump’s VP pick. That would be a disaster. Since there’s a real possibility that Trump will be eliminated even if elected the VP position is unusually important this time. I like Vivek but have some lingering fears that he’s a setup. But I’m pretty paranoid these days.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Two letters made me instantly NO Haley! Those being U N definite Red Flag! I never believed this could be true of a full Trump supporter, but one told me they are liking Haley because Trump just has too much trouble around him. Me: Yes because our enemies Hate him!! How do you not get that!?!

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LuAnne's avatar

Well, Biden already has us involved in wars all over the globe so technically, Haley wouldn't need to start anything. She would simply keep it all going.

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Credenda's avatar

No, the neocons are salivating over Iran. They want to Go BIG, taking on Iran and China in addition to Russia. That’s why I’m thinking a ginormous false flag event, a black swan, is in the near future.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I believe this, too.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Can (Nimrata) Nikki (Randhawa) Haley or Vivek actually be President? Neither is a "natural born citizen" from what I'm reading. But maybe that doesn't matter anymore, since the Constitution is in shreds already - Obama and Kamala aren't NBCs either.

FYI - Nikki's husband's name WAS Bill (William) until Nikki decided he looked more like a Michael (his middle name), so SHE changed his name while they were dating! This is something Nikki herself wrote in her 2012 book, "Can't Isn't an Option".

"You may be wondering how 'Bill' became South Carolina First Gentleman Michael Haley," Haley wrote in her book. "After we started dating, I looked at him one day and said, 'What's your name?'" 

"'You know it's Bill,' he said, puzzled."

"'You just don't look like a Bill. What's your whole name?'"

"'William Michael.'"

"From that point on, I started calling him Michael, and all my friends did the same. When he transferred to Clemson his sophomore year, my friends became his friends, and before we knew it, he was universally known as Michael. Everyone who knew him before I did knows him as Bill, and everyone who met him after I did knows him as Michael."

"He looks like a Michael," she wrote."

Talk about a audacious, controlling ... person. Who does that?? Poor Ol' Bill should've ran when he had the chance. 🥴

You should've seen (and heard) my husband's reaction when I asked him what he wouldve done had I decided to start using his middle name while we were dating. 🤣 I definitely wouldn't be about to celebrate 25 yrs together, that's for sure.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Please watch the short, insightful video link provided by CSpne here. Really eye-opening! You’re right to have fears about Vivek.

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MsReid's avatar

Paranoid with good reason, I'd say.

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Fla Mom's avatar

CStone, I could only listen to the first minute or two; that's a ridiculous attempt to sound serious. "Let's review his Wikipedia entry and then claim that if he had any association at all with any organization I don't like, we'll call him evil and underhanded." Really. Think better.

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On an island's avatar

If you’d watch the whole thing she mentioned A LOT of questionable associations i was unaware of... WEF, George Soros, Goldman Sachs, companies HE started to wheel and deal with big pharma, investments in China, collabs with PayPal, etc. Sounds like he says one thing but his record shows quite another.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I've already investigated several of those, and I expect the quality of her 'analysis' remains the same.

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mary's avatar

I agree. I fear he is a Trojan horse. And I’m concerned that Trump may choose him as vp.

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Karmy's avatar

He is not a natural born citizen so cannot be President. Although Kenyan born Obama was not either. I guess I’m a purist and like my Constitution.

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IR's avatar

Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution directs that all persons born in the United States are U.S. citizens even though their parents may not be citizens ( Haley, Ramaswamy) Likewise, if one of the parents is the U.S. citizen and a child is born in a foreign country the child is entitled to American citizenship ( Obama, mother Ann Dunham was born in Kansas). Ted Cruz was born in Canada and his dad is Cuban but his mom was born in Delaware.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

There's a difference between a citizen of immigrant parents and a natural born citizen, eligible to hold the office of President and Vice President.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

I heard same about Nikki. Guess both of their parents were here legally but had not yet been granted US citizenship. But, as I understand it, there is less certainty around the definition of “natural citizen” with respect to people like Nikki and Vivek, who were born here, than we might think.

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IR's avatar

Oh, forgot to mention. There is another category, a naturalized citizen, those who were born in a foreign country and who’s parents were not U.S. citizens who later become U.S. citizens through immigration. They can never hold the title of the President of the United States.

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RunningLogic's avatar

A natural born citizen is anyone born on American soil. It doesn’t matter if their parents were immigrants.

“A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents.” From a US government website.

The citizenship clause of the 14th amendment

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S1-1-1/ALDE_00000811/#:~:text=Fourteenth%20Amendment%2C%20Section%201%3A,the%20State%20wherein%20they%20reside.

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Vicki's avatar

This is actually QUITE good and a real eye opener into Vivek's TRUE agenda. They're known by who owns them!

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

This is good research, enough to make one reconsider favouring whoever appears to be an opportunist. Seems like this is Vivek.

Thank you, CStone, for this link.

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JT's avatar

Yes, by all means, let’s hear what Wikipedia has to say about Ramaswamy...(and we all know about those Jesuits, don’t we)

C’mon man!

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

This is all old news and is easily debunked through actual investigation.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Please ensure that this link gets to Trump on Truth Social.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Excellent!!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I agree with you 💯 on Nikki Haley! She is a deep state RINO, in bed with the military industrial war complex, weak on immigration and weak on abortion. She’s being propped up by the establishment and would be a disaster as our president. Never Nikki!

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SadieJay's avatar

I don't know if you can watch this Tucker from last night or if you have to be a paid subscriber...but he calls it on Nikki. Spot on...Deep State Plant

https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-the-iowa-results/

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Thank you for sharing; Tucker nailed it.

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LuAnne's avatar

I'm having a hard time believing Trump would use Vivek as VP. Vivek is bold, defiant (in a good way), and extremely self confident (also in a good way) but these are classic Trump traits as well and I'm not sure Vivek would be able to take a quiet back seat. I might be wrong, it's just

my own observation. Vivek might be better suited elsewhere in a Trump administration.

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Agree, he has some very detailed plans about dismantling the 3 letter bureaucracy (assuming these are sincere, which is not a given - I have trust issues) so I do see him having some sort of role in the administration, just not sure what it should be. I did watch Trump's speech (Right Side Broadcasting covered it) and he also mentioned a role for Doug Burgum and praised him. I liked him, but some friends have said he is deep state also, although I never got around to vetting that.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

Truth... she is a war monger.

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shayne's avatar

Haley is a snake charmer

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

I agree, especially hearing that she is being funded by some Democratic donors.

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Bgagnon's avatar

She is the Dem's candidate .... neither the resident nor his sidekick Kammy are viable!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

the fact that she is a WEF pupil says it all. in one of the meme pages she says she wants everyone to post under their real name. Nikki Haley is not her real name. She is just a puppet. Just like most

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POZIOMKA's avatar

Tucker Carlson just released a video of him talking about who N. Haley is and what is a globalist strategy concerning her presidential campaign. Very interesting. Talking about a Trojan Horse!

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L1's avatar

I think Haley would be awful too. There is something suspicious about her. Her campaign is TOO well funded as far as I can tell. I get stuff in the mail constantly from her and not the others. Ads everywhere. Seems like a plant. Why was Joy B upset that Haley didn’t do better? Maybe that’s who the dems really want.

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Jennifer Beebe's avatar

💯‼️

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Texas nurse's avatar

So glad you brought that up!

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Politico Phil's avatar

“If Trump is Elected, it is Likely to be the Kind of Like the Death Blow to What Remains of the Global Order.”- WEF Adviser Yuval Noah Harari.

https://expose-news.com/2024/01/15/if-trump-is-elected-it-is-likely-to-be-the-kind-of-like-the-death-blow-to-what-remains-of-the-global-order-wef-adviser-yuval-noah-harari/

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Roger Beal's avatar

Beware. Cornered rats become vicious. When this year's Davos pornfest concludes, keep an ear on the pronouncements from the participants, when they arrive home and reassume control of their societies and economies.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Spot on! That is exactly my worry. There is nothing these narcissistic sociopaths will not do to stay in power.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Remember what happened to JFK, when he dared stray off their plantation.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right! Like Trump and Vivek, JFK ran on his own money and could not be controlled by the deep state. After he was betrayed in the Bay of Pigs fiasco (just like Trump was betrayed with the covid shit), JFK swore he was going to tear the CIA down. It was very shortly after that they killed him. Standard operating procedure. Every politician that operated on an independent power base was killed (or attempted to be killed): JFK, ML King, Wallace, Robert Kennedy and JFK Jr (which I believe was an assassination). The deep state cannot abide independent actors.

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Roger Beal's avatar

"One such as him must never rise again" ....

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Sherry 1's avatar

Yes. And I hope Jeff digs deeper into what the Germans, Dutch, French, Polish and more EU countries are protesting. The WEF, through their Government puppets, are going after their FARMS! The Dutch were on the chopping block not long ago and their protests were massive, to the tune that a new Party was formed and it beat many of the established Party’s and slowed the attack on farms. Those establishment Party’s follow WEF orders in chasing the U.N. Agenda2030 which means to wipe out farms, oil/gas and in the name of ‘sustainability, shove all of us into 15 minute cities aka China. Like Stalin proved, government collective farming starves people. In his case, 7 million people. Fine with WEF, they think the earth is over-populated. I believe Yuval Harari also called humans ‘useless eaters’. 😳

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IR's avatar

They want to create a command economy perhaps as well. You won’t be able to own as many things as you want. We would rent things delivered by drone (according to them )so only a certain amount can be produced. It’s a dystopia. All in the name of sustainability. I don’t see them personally doing anything sustainable flying jets and buying yachts that use more gasoline per hour than I use per year or they feel they are too important and the rules don’t need to apply to them.

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Politico Phil's avatar

True that. Sustainability = population reduction

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

One can only hope for the death of the New World One Global Order. But Hariri only has Satans ear, so who knows what it means?

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Kat's avatar

I think it’s strange that we have a Trump and a Noah! Scripture says the end times will be like the days of Noah, and then the Trump-ets will blow!!

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Susan Seas's avatar

You literally gave me chills!! WOW 💥

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

That also surprised me. His master is Klaus Schwab. What is he saying? There is little remaining of the "global order"?

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think he senses a tidal change and they are about to be drowned.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

One can only hope and pray.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Harari is not addressing us. He is addressing his globalist club and he is warning them that we are pushing back and they must pull out all the stops to defeat us. You have to understand who his audience is that he is addressing.

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Bgagnon's avatar

We also need to stand agsinst all this .... we need to say NO, NO, NO. DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THEIR GAME.

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Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

We can pray for that but they won’t give up that easily- things that make you wonder....

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Sherry 1's avatar

No. It is alive and slithering towards world domination. “You will own nothing and you will be happy”.

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Fred's avatar

He's baiting the pro-Trump forces. You may recall Trump had a very bad final year or so. I think the Administrative State figured him out. DeSantis or Ramaswarmy would be much less to their liking, as well as far more energetic.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Actually, the reverse is reality. Trump has figured them out and his support is now so massive, the globalists are panicking. Their fear of Trump getting back into office is obvious. As much as I like DeSantis, he is a non-starter. Unlike Trump, he is dependent on the lobbyists for his funding and as such is firmly under their control.

If Trump gets back in office, he's coming for them.

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Bgagnon's avatar

My thoughts exactly. Trump is the only one with enough backbone, courage, anger and love for America and Americans to do this.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The WEF/captured Democrats are very afraid of the Donald.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

lets pray that is true.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I Pray it be so!!

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

I was watching a video from a CIA (retired) agent and he says the people who win are those who NEVER give up no matter what. I think it's time for ALL free people everywhere to focus on that. He also says society is happy to train the population to be easily slaughtered sheep, they pay the most taxes, let elections be stolen etc. This is the year. The people finally know that the "trying to get along" attitude is not going to work anymore. God Bless all of you everywhere.

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Politico Phil's avatar

No one has illustrated a NEVER give up attitude more than Trump. The deep state is going to go nuts.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Lets get back to paper ballots and voter ID!!!!

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Yep, I read that last night, Clandestine was on top of that. Also, yesterday's Seth Keshel Substack was great. He showed those results from 2016, and also his projections for last night.

What surprised me was that Vivek endorsed Trump so quickly.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think Vivek has always maintained that he supports Trump.

BUT...Ron DeSantis needs to also drop out, energetically throw his support behind Trump and return to FL where he has REAL power to fight the globalists. It's TIME!

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AB's avatar

Agree! Come home and stop geo engineering in Florida (among other things but #1 on my list now). I don’t want to have to move again and it’s cold in New Hampshire.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I agree, come home Ron.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

No, with Vivek out we need a real deal at #2. My fear is that they will take out trump by any means necessary and then try to say well, we have to go with #2 which need to be DeSantis or Vivek and NOT Nikki Haley!

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CStone's avatar

Vivek is a Trojan Horse. I agree with Jeff, he is running for VP. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/WAFtTt6xA8Lx3CmF/?mibextid=3iQHzw

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

While Vivek says all the right things, I think there are massive questions about him. Read a great piece the other day that examined the source of his wealth. Always follow the money.

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Karmy's avatar

But he’s not a natural born citizen.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

CStone, thanks! This is a very compelling case for Trump to avoid Vivek, who may be a shyster.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Be nervous, be very nervous... after you watch the short video in the link above by CStone. Please watch.

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Truthseeker's avatar

People see plainly…

If THEY can do all of this to an ex president…

No one is safe from the same kind of attacks and legal witch-hunts.

Trump today.

Tomorrow you.

No one wants the FBI on their doorstep. But they are going after private citizens now who stand up to them… like this recent story.

https://christopherrufo.com/p/texas-childrens-hospital-whistleblower

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Charlotte's avatar

Also, I think it’s very important to note, Democrats who are voting in the Republican caucuses are NOT voting for Trump. They have already made many interviews on X and they are voting for Nikki. I’m sort of guessing this is another weird pact where the Dems know the Republican base won’t vote for her AND McConnell loves her, so it’s another Schumer/Pelosi/Mcconnell back room deal.

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Hoffmeister's avatar

Next election up - New Hampshirite's who crossover to vote for Haley will reflect, on national public stage, the makeup of N.H. citizens. We are responsible for our decisions, which may impact many - act responsibly! ( or remain as sheep ).

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I’m hoping it was all those Democrat cross-overs who voted for Haley. How did she come up with that % of the Iowa voters?

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Roger Beal's avatar

The difference in attitude towards "commoners" displayed by two campaigns in Iowa is a fine example of why Trump has earned strong support: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/team-trump-offers-podcaster-kicked-desantis-event-full/

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Nothing says why he actually got kicked out. What did he do to attract that kind of attention?

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yeah I feel like we aren't getting the whole story on that one. But hey, it landed him a spot on the Trump bus so guess he knows how to make lemonade from lemons.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Unknown, as I've not seen any other stories about this. My guess is that the journo ran afoul of a "credentials" requirement. Campaigns are known to be anal retentive about credentials.

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Austin's avatar

So, in light of the extreme win.....to what extremes will the deep state go to make sure they get THEIR way?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

We are in Puerto Rico currently on business and having a chance to talk to waiters and taxi drivers etc etc. Lots of political questions we are asking the Puerto Ricans. Many are wide awake which surprised us. Many Trump supporters and still many brainwashed. Many were forced to vaxx and regret it. What was interesting was our latest taxi driver said they are allowed to vote in the primaries but not the general election. What???!!! He said ya “taxation without representation” They are a territory of the USA but they have no one representing them and they are subject to our federal laws too. I was shocked because I never paid attention to PR and mostly forget they are USA too.

It was eye opening and interesting to learn the history of PR and why they can’t get statehood. It’s all political and the swamps fingers are all over it. Both sides of the aisle are the problem too. It’s a hot button over here.

So it appears PR won’t be able to vote for DJT but they hopefully are awake enough to help him get the massive primary win. That would help the rest of America to see PR swing conservative. Who knows.

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Bgagnon's avatar

As my hubby said reecently, " they're going to indict him right into the White House!" 👍

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Jennifer Beebe's avatar

Righto! 🎉🎉🎉

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SB's avatar

WOW! Thanks for that info, I did not know.

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Natalie's avatar

I don't understand, Jeff, why you think that Democrats are crossing over in the Republican primary to vote for Trump! While there might be a handful of those, the vast majority of crossover Democrats voted for Nikki Haley. Much of her money is coming from Democrat donors, and a poll of likely voters for Haley in the Iowa primary found that in a race between Trump and Biden, almost half of Haley voters would vote for Biden. Haley is not a good candidate. Her views are pretty much Biden's views on immigration, internet privacy, climate change and, most of all, war. As many have said, she's never seen a war she didn't like, and she's made tons of money from the war machine. She would be a disaster for America-first policies. She's America-last and Nikki Haley-first. She would be controlled just like Biden is. That's why many conservatives, including Tucker Carlson, have said that if Trump picks her for VP, they will actively oppose the ticket.

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Kat's avatar

If Trump picks Haley for VP he better watch his back. Her deep state handlers will ensure Trump will be ousted and she will rise to the top spot. Either in the campaign or it could be after election!! Trump will not be safe with Haley any where near him.

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Credenda's avatar

Good point! Maybe that’s why the deep state is supporting her. If she is number two that’s only one heartbeat away from being number one.

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Kat's avatar

I would not trust Haley, she is not for us!!

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Truthseeker's avatar

I agree

I’m no fan of Haley

Do you think Trump would pick Kari Lake as his VP?

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Kat's avatar

I think Kari is great, but too inexperienced. I believe a better pick would be Sara Huckabee Sanders. She can handle all the media’s gotcha questions and she’s been a great governor for Arkansas. My bet is for her.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Good call!!!

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Cathy's avatar

I don’t think he will pick Kari. I’m thinking definitely a woman though. More like kristi noem. But what do I know.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Yep. We must pray unendingly for Mr Trump's safety, while preparing a "second", in case something happens to him. I'm comfortable having either Vivek or Ron as President.

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Dave's avatar

Agree the Dem crossover votes went to Haley

Johnson and Story county are where she did best - those counties have the two state schools.

I saw De Santis signs, Trump Signs, and even Vivek

Never saw a Haley sign.

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Donna in MO's avatar

This shows an actual tie between Haley and Trump in Johnson County, University of Iowa https://www.weareiowa.com/article/news/politics/elections/iowa-caucus-2024-live-updates-results-candidates/524-2dccbf7b-90e9-460c-8a35-0428781a67ca Pretty much proof that D's drove the Haley support. Biden got ~80% of the vote in Johnson in 2020.

EDIT: I guess Haley won that county. I was just glancing at % - Trump lost BY ONE VOTE! This is why you should never skip an election!

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Undine's avatar

Jeff is still clinging to that lunatic theory that Democrats really want Trump as the nominee.

I can't even write those words without laughing.

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Natalie's avatar

Yes, I've never been able to understand that!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

He’s very fond of DeSantis and clinging to hope.

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Peter Schott's avatar

From what I've seen, there are a lot of voters who _really_ hate Trump and think that if he's the nominee, it will get the Democrats to turn out in record numbers to "secure democracy" and keep Trump from becoming president. And let's be honest - there are a _lot_ of people who suffer from severe TDS who would do just that. It doesn't matter if the D nominee ran on a platform of "I'm going to run America into the ground and enslave everyone" ... they'd vote for that person just because Trump is "evil".

Haley would be absolutey horrible as a president or VP, but I don't think those who cross over are thinking about that so much as "if Trump wins, people will vote against him in the general election".

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AngelaK's avatar

Boy they are throwing around the 'democracy' word a lot. Trump NEEDS to counter them be using the word in his speeches and ads with explanations like: censorship, weaponizing against political opponents, and so much more leftist dictatorship which we see daily. I really wish that he could get some good people for this and get the word out loudly! Their propaganda is loud and like propaganda, it is all the American people are hearing!

COUNTER the 'democracy' propaganda Mr. Trump!!

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MsReid's avatar

Trump needs to starting throwing around the phrase "Democratic REPUBLIC". We have been dumbed down so much in this country that I believe 95% of the people don't know the difference!

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AngelaK's avatar

Agreed, but you have to play their game against them by using their same words. 😉

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

My 82 year old mom has tds and she got her boyfriend to vote for the first time ever, he’s 87 .

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Sherry 1's avatar

Iowa voters who are members of one Party (eg Dem) can change that on voting day and vote for someone in the other Party (eg Rep). In this way they can vote for a candidate that leans farther left than the leading candidate thereby stealing votes from the leader.

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YYR's avatar

Open primaries are a stain. It's how GA got saddled with Kemp and Raffensperger for a second term.

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Faith&FitnessMama's avatar

Yeah. I’ve already made up my mind, if she’s the nominee OR if Trump picks her for VP, I’m voting for RFK Jr.

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Justa Nobod-eeee's avatar

This.

We need to vote Cuckservative Republican'ts out **now**, not wait for some Farm Team AF candidates to magically percolate up through some farcical, mythical farm team system.

Candidates like Mara Macie are ready, **now**.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Will definitely pray the Supremes take a bulldozer to "Chevron deference." Simply put, "Our Enemy, the State." - Albert Jay Nock

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Glad Jeff mentioned that, I wasn’t aware.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Let’s see, these tv stations/outlets incessantly play drug commercials but feel they have to protect viewers from Trump’s speech. Something is rotten in Denmark.

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Janet's avatar

I was at the gym yesterday. Both FOX and CNN were on tvs. The number of drug ads shown just in a half hour was 🤡🌎 worthy. The one I despise the most is that disgusting Skyrizzi or some such with basically overweight Rockettes cavorting all over the Candyland set. 🤪. Throwing up Starbursts here. 🤮

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I mute the commercials. I told my husband it triggers my ptsd because I have had so many side effects before I came to my senses.

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Copernicus's avatar

I just told my spousethat I currently have a really hard time not making negative assumptions about people who are healthcare folks. Like, just being in a Bible study group with ordinary folks, some folks of whom may be nurses, or occupational therapists, or some other thing. I honestly struggle. And yes, it triggers my nervous system and sets it on high alert. I’m not making that up.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I was gaslit & ignored , neglected for almost 2 decades by insurance dictated doctors. Very thankful for my integrative medicine doctor now. I was on sooo many pharmaceutical for years, had side effects from all of them except thyroid hormone. I really can feel by body tense up when exposed to the commercials and I get more angry knowing they control what we see in the television. My favorite show used to be JEPARDY. Moderna is their sponsor now. So sad. I complain on the YouTube channel about how it’s affecting the show.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

( jeopardy is about the only show I watch & reruns of all in the Family every Sunday)

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Janet's avatar

My problem also in my sermon study. Nurse, teacher, etc. All captured. The nurse has a bumper sticker basically saying as a woman and you want to be able to kill your baby, vote democrat. Your body, your blah blah. Except for me declining the C jabs. It’s hard. I go home muttering to myself. I have begun to say a few things. I’ve been called a “free spirit “ then. Lol.

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Janet's avatar

I almost always DVR everything that has ads. I FF. My hubby watches tv in another room. Works for us. If I’m someplace and cable news is on I feel triggered as well. 😱😱🤪

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

The side effects! Endless & serious. Can’t believe how many hours a week my ( elderly & highly vaxxed) mom must listen to…

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Dr Linda's avatar

I mute them as well. My Son asks why. I think I’ll switch to your reason. : )

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Dr Linda's avatar

I haven’t seen that one. My newest hated one has Kelce, Martha, john Legend, that female soccer player, and someone else I think (clearly I am not paying enough attention)

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

That's Rybelsus. I hate that woman, I hate her hair, I hate every particle of her obese body, I hate her outfits.

That's all.

Carry on.

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Tom Willis's avatar

My wife and I play a little game called, "Side Effects Bingo", where we wait to end of the commercial when they start to ramble off the side effects and we joke around about whether a certain side effect was on our side effect bingo card. My favorite was one that caused "a rare genital infection that could lead to death." A big Pharma drug that literally makes your dick rot and you die. But those folks in commercial sure do seem to be enjoying themselves as they tend their gardens and play pickleball.

Our favorites are the ones where the purpose of the pharma is to alleviate some aliment which is actually a side effect of the jab. That's double bonus side effects!!

That's why Fox tossed Tucker, they can't bite the hand that feeds them.

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Janet's avatar

I always wait for the word “death” to pop out. If I deign to listen.

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Janet's avatar

👍🏻🤣

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Karen Bergmann's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Steve's avatar

Learned of another “COVID” case in our neighborhood. Poor guy, told me “I’m all caught up on my COVID vaccines and I still got it...”

Keeping in mind, this is third time he’s gotten the COVID’s....so.

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Fla Mom's avatar

"I'm so sorry to hear that. It looks like they don't work very well, doesn't it?"

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Copernicus's avatar

🎯

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Texas nurse's avatar

This happens all the time working in the ER! I laugh every time I get a patient with a million shots who is so confused why they have had covid so much!! 🤦‍♀️

I used to think the vax was actually giving people covid but I think it is destroying their immune system so any tiny amount they come in contact with makes them sick!! I watched this phenomenon play out in Taiwan! They had the best tracking system and then when a certain amount of people had the vax Covid began to travel like wildfire and they stopped contact tracing altogether.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Yes. The vaxx is creating the spike which is destroying people's natural immunity .... I see the uptake figures for people still getting jabbed ..... very low numbers and am still shocked when I hear someone has take it and is stunned that they are sick again! 🤯

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Jen's avatar

wow, my mind is always blown when I meet someone who says this. I want so bad to tell them the obvious, but you just know they wouldn't listen. If they haven't connected the dots themselves as to why they keep getting sick and they just keep lining up for shots, there's really not much you can do. I heard someone on a company call say that recently and also that he was going to have his doc call in paxlovid. Yikes.

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Deb S's avatar

They are far too invested to change direction. People don’t like to admit they fell for something so heinous, so they just keep their heads down and stay on the path. It’s maddening - and sad when it’s someone we love!

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SusanMc's avatar

While recovering from covid a friend (fully vaxed & so worried about me refusing the same back in the day) told me she wasn’t contagious this time bc she took Paxlovid.

What!?!?! I didn’t respond...

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Paxlovid is EUA and to be prescribed ONLY for those who are very sick.... of course they're prescribing it like candy and people are getting rebound covid... I can't, I just can't...

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L1's avatar

I don’t know a single person who hasn’t rebounded after paxlovid.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

We gave a close friend our Ivermectin for his bout with covid. He took one dose while "waiting for his doctor to call in paxlovid..." Said he immediately felt better in 6 hours... then got the paxlovid that was called in for him and gave us back our Ivermectin. He was still sick 2 weeks later... attributed feeling better quickly to the paxlovid he took 12 hours after he took the first dose of Ivermectin.... How is that? "I just felt better knowing I was on the paxlovid..." (He's a physician, too).

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Copernicus's avatar

And wasn’t authorized in and was specifically excluded for vaxxed people.

Yet vaxxed people are the only ones I hear about who are using it. Guess the rest of us know better. They’d have no takers if they didn’t let the jabbed use it.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Exactly!

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Kat's avatar

There was a daytime actor 32 yrs old just died. He was vaxxed and boosted got Covid and his immune systems could not combat it and he died yesterday. We must thank the Lord everyday that He gave us the eyes to see and courage to get thru the Plandemic and the evil vaccine mandates.

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Peace's avatar

Tells you what they think of the IQ of their viewers - that they need to be kept safe and protected from speech they can't handle.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Agreed. That really bothers me though.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Indeed- taking that more literally, I know nothing of Danish politics, but wondered why Queen Margrethe felt need to abdicate--first monarch to do so since a king chose to enter monastery ~1000 years ago.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Interesting, I need to look into that.

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Sunlover's avatar

Something’s fishy in Denmark! 😉

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

They assume their viewers are too dumb or lazy to see Trump speak on all the other platforms and they can keep them in the group-think bubble. I hope their viewers realize this.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

Vivek Ramaswamy invested in Arbutus Biopharma, who created the nano lipid particles that went into every death shot. The profits are paying for his presidential campaign. But none of the other candidates, including Trump, are going to use this against him, because they are all up to their necks in the COVID vaccine crime too. We cannot vote our way out of tyranny, everyone on the ticket is complicit.

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"Vivek Ramaswamy invested in Arbutus Biopharma, who created the nano lipid particles that went into every death shot. The profits are paying for his presidential campaign."

Respectfully, they are not using that against him because it is *not true*.

I looked into this (doing due diligence on all the candidates)...

Vivek is worth close to a billion dollars, which is how he can run for President despite not having the backing of the GOP machine, or any of it's major donors. He made his money in investment banking and start-ups, mainly Roivant, a company he founded in 2014.

Prior to founding Roivant, he worked at a hedge fund, focused on value hunting in the biotech space. Roivant was a very clever idea for a start up, and was based on his observations as a stock picker and researcher when he was a fundie. Essentially, large scale drug trials are super, super expensive to fund and take years. A lot of drugs just fail to perform as expected in the trial, so without producing a flashy result the research gets shelved and the drug maker (a Pfizer, or similar) shelve it...

But if you actually dig through what's on the shelf, you can find some drugs that appear to show a signal of benefit and would be worth pursuing further. You also find some where poor trial design appears to be obscuring a potential signal. These patents can be bought cheaply, as the drugmakers are happy to offload these shelved dev lines. So you can pick up a handful of very cheap biotech IP, and then test and see which of them might actually be a winning drug. It's low hanging fruit.

Not all the drugs are successful, obviously. Often you find out you purchased and trialed a dud. But if you hit a winner, you've acquired that patent value for much lower cost (and therefore higher profit) than is standard for the sector.

Roivant is a public company now, he only retains a 10% stake. I believe it's a bit less than that now, as he recently sold $33m worth of stock to put the funds into his campaign. Anyhow...

Regarding Covid-profiteering accusations: Roivant has a joint-venture with the biotech company Arbutus. When they made that JV, Arbutus already held IP on a range of biotech, incl some work with LNPs, in the hotly tipped gene therapeutic space. [So do other firms, obv — this product space touted as 'the future of medicine', etc, until recently]

Arbutus sued Moderna for patent infringement, claiming that the LNP technology used by Moderna when making their Covid-19 vaccine (Spikevax), was an infringement of an Arbatus LNP patent from years prior (one they had shelved, but still owned). The court battle is actually two separate lawsuits, and was/is pretty complex as the US Govt are also involved. In one of the suits, the appeals court has ruled in favour of Moderna (ie Arbutus lost). The other case is not yet resolved.

But at present, Arbatus has not yet succeeded and therefore hasn't made any money from the Moderna vaccine (and therefore neither has Roivant, or Vivek)

In general, I would add that it appears that Moderna have in fact stolen and used the IP of one or more of their former trial suppliers, but it's unlikely that Arbutus will succeed in the courts, because the US govt are a patent partner with Moderna, and having big daddy govt on your side really helps with these kinds of things. Lucky Moderna. In any case, Arbutus have every right to pursue the suits, and it's worth remembering that nobody was talking about the dangers of these mRNA side products like LNPs until recently (as no mRNA therapies were anywhere near being approved, so it's just a trial space).

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Fla Mom's avatar

Thanks for all this, sincerely. The knee-jerk hate reactions based on no facts are so irritating.

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Smatse's avatar

Yes, it's extremely irritating and shows that many folks here are too quick to jump to conclusions without doing their due diligence, just like those on the left. They read/watch one or two things and then think they got it. This propensity to jump to conclusions is one more reason why those in charge take full advantage, sow division and get away with it.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

I see. So, after all those words, he actually DID invest in the kill shot juice. And has he come out against the shots? I'm curious.

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jjinUK64's avatar

No, sorry, to clarify:

Roivant — a company of which he owns less than 10% and does not control > invested in a joint venture with a company (Arbutus) that years prior had done some LNP development, and held IP.

Then the pandemic happens and it appears that Moderna used what looks like old Arbutus IP. So they sued them (and lost). I'm not sure how you spin that as Vivek "invest[ing] in the kill shot juice" unless you're being rather fast and loose with the facts.

As for his position on vaccines, he was pro-vaccines in 2021, but last year stated multiple times that he has reversed his position and regrets taking it. His wife disagrees, and say that she doesn't regret taking it (because she was working as a doctor, with vulnerable patients) but that she also hasn't taken any boosters and doesn't think they are needed. She is anti vaccinating kids (they both are). He has been anti mandates from the outset.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

So, he flip flopped on the vax when this dumb ole redneck knew from the get go that it was poison. Now, he will endorse the guy who championed the kill juice onto America. But he is against it?

Again. There is a republican party disconnect. Maybe not as expansive as the dem party disconnect, but it is there and we will NEVER get out of this mess as long as we keep voting for these asshats.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Sure. Ok. Well if that's your take, I won't try to talk you out of it.

Imo Trump should apologise and back away from the Warp Speed programme, and all of the Covid stuff he did. He still hasn't taken responsibility for it, or admitted fault, so he would not get my vote.

But if he did clearly and earnestly state that he has changed his view (and state why), then I would I consider that forgivable. Because puritanical expectations always turn into a circular firing squad.

I was anti the Covid insanity from the jump. But plenty of people I love and respect, took longer to get there. And expecting everyone to agree with me, and do so in the timeline I personally specify, at the time I demand it ...is an unrealistic standard for human behaviour.

I think RFK has actually been an admirable candidate in this respect — he openly says "I don't know" if he's not sure about something, rather than bullshi*tting his way through it. And he openly admits he has changed his mind about some big things over the years, and will candidly explain why / what caused him to rethink the issue.

That is the best you can ever ask for I believe. Not real-time conformity, but openness to being wrong, and admitting so when you realise you have been.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

You might have a point, if the man wasn't so focused on how he was the guy who did it and never letting us forget that it was him. He has doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on it. So, no matter what he says going forward, he is out.

And remember how many times he told us he was a genius.

As for RFKJr or ANY of them: this covid issue is but one issue. You name the one that isn't totally owned by AIPAC and isn't chomping at the bit to take away your first amendment. Or kill as many Gazan children as possible?

Or will you give them all a pass there, as well?

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Jon M.'s avatar

RFKjr May be anti vaxx, but in everything else he is a far leftist in his views, DON'T Be fooled...

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Fla Mom's avatar

Abuse, your side needs something better than, "I was smart and you weren't, nah, nah, nah."

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

My "side"?

Wait until I ask Trump, who told us what a genius he is and I'll get back to you.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

The guy who championed the kill juice, you must understand, does not have a background in biology (like Vivek) and did what you or I would do. He believed and trusted those who were doctors. Trusting the wrong people was a downfall. He’s beyond that now, as we would be - since the truth came out. Let’s show mercy and understanding. Overall, in spite of what hateful Dems say, I believe Trump is a good man. Compare his family to Joe Biden’s for starters. For instance, I know my children are good people because we are good people who instilled proper values. (That’s how it works.)

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

But he has not admitted he's beyond that now.... he's done the opposite.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Good people like Trump and Clinton hang out with Jeffrey Epstein.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

"and did what you or I would do. He believed and trusted those who were doctors. "

Why do you think that I would do such a stupid thing? I haven't trusted a Dr in over a decade. And I really didn't trust them much before then.

I also never told anyone I was a genius who 'should' be able to discern fact from fiction. Me, a dumb ole redneck, knew better than the self proclaimed 'genius'. But NOW, what is his excuse?

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Janet's avatar

👍🏻🤣

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Vince's avatar

Thanks for the research and your explanation is easy to understand.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Great job! Thanks!

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jjinUK64's avatar

It's hard to know where to start with this firehose of utter nonsense, tbh.

Yes, he attended St Xavier's (Catholic) high school in Cincinnati, Ohio. He is not a 'secret Jesuit', he is in fact a Hindu, but he was offered a scholarship there and it's a good school. He graduated as valedictorian of his high school class.

So unsurprisingly, he got into Harvard, where he did a BA in Biology. This sassy young influencer lady does not seem to be aware that Biology can be taken as a BA *or* a BSc; please see here: https://www.northcentralcollege.edu/news/2021/12/15/biology-ba-vs-bs-what-are-differences

One can only presume she has had little contact with higher education if she doesn't know this, and was also too lazy to even google and check before filming a 'gotcha video'.

Next she intimates that he is some sort of Soros puppet, because he won a Yale scholarship (postgrad law) and those scholarships are part funded by the Paul & Daisy Soros Foundation. Paul Soros is indeed the brother of George Soros, so she got that right. But the rest is incorrect... Foundation donors do not get to pick the candidates, it's Yale that give out the scholarships, based on grades. Paul Soros also never met Vivek, and died in 2013, so I'm rather unclear on how he is puppeteering this man he does not know, from beyond the grave.

By the time Vivek attended Yale he was already a millionaire. By the time he graduated his net worth was estimated to be $22 million. He accepted the scholarship place because it is prestigious to be awarded one (it means you're top of the incoming class), not because he could not afford Yale and needed to rely on anyone for money.

Next she claims that he magically started a company out of nowhere (ie he must have a rich benefactor engineering this). On the contrary, he was already rich, of his own making. Prior to postgrad study he worked for a hedge fund and had 2 other start ups, and had made a ton of money in biotech, his field of focus. He came up with the business plan for Roivant whilst working at the hedge fund, but it takes time to launch such a company, hence the time delay.

Next up: Roivant is not suing Moderna, Arbutus, a company that Roivant JV'd within 2018, is. And they are probably right to do so. They had legacy IP relating to LNPs, and it does in fact appear that Moderna infringed their patent. Nevertheless, Arbutus *lost* the court case, so they have made no money from Moderna's covid vaccine, and Roivant has made no money from it ...and Vivek (who incidentally owns less than 10% of Roivant) has made any money from it.

Then she declares that Acuitas is involved (guilt by association I suppose), and they're a Canadian company. Well yes... so are Arbutus. Canada is a hub for research and manufacture of LNP tech, so it's not really bombshell news that multiple firms bickered over who owned what patents, in the wake of Moderna's shock licensing. But we can agree that Trudeau is a dick, and very probably corrupt, so that's good.

I can't even begin with the stupidity of saying that Bill & Melinda Gates invested a *counter-claimant* in the law suits... therefore they are related. Honestly, this is just such low IQ stuff. Acuitas is *not related to Vivek or Roivant* — they are a *rival* and adversary company ... of Arbutus.

Then she claims BlackRock, Vanguard etc have huge stakes in his company (therefore he must actually support ESG.. or something?). Actually, if you look at the holdings charts they didn't start to buy up Roivant in any meaningful way until 2023, when Vivek was already at just 10% share ownership. She seems not to understand how publicly traded companies work. If JP Morgan etc want to buy shares, they can do. That's called the "stock market". It's not a conspiracy, it's how stocks work.

Re ESG: Vivek, in 2022, having sold mostly out of Roivant ...started an *explicitly anti ESG* fund management co called Strive Asset Management, with other anti-woke corporate fundies like Bill Ackman. That is his main holding now.

I'm sorry, but I just had to tap out there, because she keeps doing the 'let me tell you a secret' kinda routine... but then everything she says in follow up is either factually blatantly wrong, or just cringe levels of not knowing anything about business... or higher ed... etc.

Bless her, and I do actually think it's good that people are out there asking questions about ANY leaders who stand. But this is bottom of the barrel analysis, and unfortunately for Vivek, loads of people will probably watch this nonsense and think "Yeah, he seems awful!".

God, I fear for the future, honestly. Anytime we get a remotely intelligent, successful or well spoken candidate, some internet influencer does a TikTok like this and millions of people just accept that as gospel and don't bother to actually fact check anything, at all. We are so screwed.

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Bgagnon's avatar

jjinUK64 ... geat explanation and take down! Hopefully people will understand that using Tik Tok or Facebook for their fact verification and trusted source just doesnt work.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Thank you for all this info, it is helpful. However, if memory serves, LNPs were known to be harmful quite a few years prior to the clot shot...I believe in some relation to biodistribution?? I may do some digging if I have some free time tomorrow...

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Yes, that's right, there were signs back then — concerns to do with biodistribution, and multi-dose tolerance.

That is true of the entire mRNA platform. Moderna worked exclusively in mRNA for over 10 years, and never got a product to market, or even into full human trials, due to persistent safety issues: ADE, and the multi-dose toxicity problem.

Moderna's initial valuations and hype were based on the idea that they would create niche gene therapeutics for rare diseases — that's the big money stuff. But they were hampered by the fact that repeated dosing caused deleterious reactions (the 'multi-dose toxicity problem'). After years of trying, and almost going bankrupt a few times (bailed out by USG) they were forced to pivot back to vaccines. This was a huge disappointment as it's a much less lucrative space, but it would get around the multi-dose problem — only 1 dose would be needed. That was the thinking anyway. [note that some people are on shot 4 or 5 now...]

I think Arbutus and others were genuinely shocked when Moderna (and BioNTech) were granted the EUAs, as those in the field of mRNA and it's adjacent product dev lines expected that any products would still be years away. They also must have known that despite flaws in the LNP product (that they had not solved) Moderna must be using it anyway ...because what else would they be using? — where would they get an alt; how could they develop an alt in a timeframe of weeks? ...that makes no sense, so Arbutus are very probably correct that Moderna violated their patent. Shame their patented product sucked, and so did Moderna's.

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Texas nurse's avatar

I feel I always have to choose the lesser of two evil’s on every ballot. Our church is studying through Ezra and Trump is a lot like King Cyrus. Trump has been used by God to defend Christians and protect human life more than any other president in the last 40 years. He is not a “good man” and he is so prideful! His life is not marked as a Christian man but for whatever reason God has seemed to use him for good in a lot of ways but not all especially the vax which is a HUGE thing!

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

I did the same for 3 decades. FINALLY, I figured the ruse out. Now, my motto is:

Never an R or D Again!

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Wise observation. 100% agree.

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Karmy's avatar

Perhaps the vax is part of God’s plan for what reason only He knows. Nothing is done without His allowance.

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Kat's avatar

I believe the vaccines are a fulfillment of prophesy. The White Horse of the apocalypse carries a rider with a bow (poison dart) to go about and conquer!

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Fred's avatar

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

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Texas nurse's avatar

Yes, that is what happens when a nation turns its back on God and enters into judgment. Trump would have done much less harm than Biden. So, IMO it’s better to at least help out our country by voting for one of

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DeAnna's avatar

Take their evil money and use it against them!

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MaryAnn's avatar

Rebecca B: I am reminded God’s ways are not our ways. He alone is sovereign. 🙏🏻

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Kat's avatar

The entire Biden’s refusal to step down is similar to Moses and the Egyptian Pharaoh. I’m thinking this is not going to go well for Biden if he doesn’t resign. He’s attempting to control everything thru EO’s which results in a disastrous dictatorship. The abortion EO the Sex reassignments on minors EO, the college loan forgiveness EO Vaccine Mandates EO etc.

These are all plagues on his presidency with more to come.

Trump is bringing us thru Red Sea (GOP) to save America!!

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Christy's avatar

Trust the government at your own peril.

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FrontierFren's avatar

Trump supported and encouraged therapeutics. Democratics and media made sure you would not be able to obtain them. It’s now being proven they work and would have saved thousands of lives. He never mandated shots. Wisely he knew the vaccine was the only way to avoid a total economic shutdown down.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

By Nov 2021, non of the pharmacies would fill Ivermectin RX where we live. JB Government regulation did that. We can’t assume what Trump knew, but regarding shutdowns, I heard him often say that it will cause damage and we have to balance it with the risk/benefit. They did say the shot would fix everything. Then CDC changed the definition of vaccine and all bets were off.

Things the past 3 years would have been much different (and better) had Trump remained in office. For one, a shot mandate would not have happened.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

I'm sorry. I can't hear you because Trump is so loud bragging about his shot.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Only until he heard the same facts we now know. Perhaps you thought Fauci et al told the truth at first. Many did.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

I seriously knew from day one that this was bogus. Every aspect.

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Jo's avatar

"Wisely he knew the vaccine was the only way to avoid a total economic shutdown down."

I disagree. The vaccine was the only thing that enabled an economic shutdown. Without that endpoint, the economic shutdown would have been open-ended, and no one would have gone along with that.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

You are right. He also trusted the medical doctors to be knowledgeable and truthful. He gives everybody trust and the benefit of the doubt first. Have you noticed that?

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Politico Phil's avatar

It will come out though.

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Debra S Heard's avatar

I'm going to give Vivek and other investors a break on the investments of the vaccine rollout. I'm betting that they were approached in the beginning of the pandemic (none of us except Fauci and the evil drug companies really knew what was really going on) that by investing into this drug that they would be helping millions of people.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

And yet he is still profiting from the kill shots. I see a disconnect within the Republican hopers.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Ok, so who do you think would do a better job RUNNING THE COUNTRY? Hmmm? Isn't that what's important?

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

We are locked into this perpetual lesser of two evils sElections process controlled by two sides of the same monster. The appearance (barely) is that there are differences, but when it comes down to the issues of importance, there is none of significance.

What I am saying is that IF you ARE seeing these people in the corrupt media, then they are owned by this cabal. No exceptions. None, especially Trump, are fighting against the very ones that own him. Don't be ridiculous. You don't think that ex junky RFKJr doesn't have hidden hands controlling him, do you? Surely not Biden?

lol

The best person for that job you have likely never heard of.

So, we must select from the tainted conmen and actors, because THAT is what THEY give us.

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CStone's avatar

It’s not jUst the vaccine wit Vivek. It’s everything about him. The video in this link encapsulates ALL his connections. I have been looking in to him from the start. He came out of nowhere, like Obama.

How? Why?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/WAFtTt6xA8Lx3CmF/?mibextid=3iQHzw

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Fred's avatar

Not sure we should fault anyone for their investment strategies. Many conservatives made a boatload of $ on Moderna, and you might have noticed that there are some who tried to profit by shorting the stock.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

The hypocrisy is glaring.

Hold no one accountable for investing in wanton murder and genocide?

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

I should have added my latest video to the above. This is a parody of Nat King Cole's "Fascination", called "Vaccination". Enjoy:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/n9auN2Do8JbX/

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Janet's avatar

Yup. I read that recently--maybe from you and a link. Voting at all is a “maybe” for me.

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Erin Fight's avatar

1,000,000,000+++% correct.

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

I'm old enough to remember when it was called Winter with frequent artic cold fronts bringing snow, now it's a Polar Vortex™, but still waiting on this year's first Bomb Cyclone™... Must be the Climate Change™ formerly know as Global Warming™ formerly known as the New Ice Age...

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Please don't forget to give Nuclear Winter (early 70's) its rightful place

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Actually I am ashamed I forgot the Hole in the Ozone Layer™, which was the first to make me suspicious...

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

And acid rain!

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Jean Mac's avatar

I used to service copy machines, the kind that uses a drum to transfer the image. They produce ozone and I used to think how silly the ‘hole in the ozone’ was. Just make more copies ...😆

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LCC's avatar

Haha! Yes, the swamp also uses the weather as a tool to fear monger! What used to be a weather report has turned into a breathlessly reported story of one cataclysmic once-in-lifetime event after the next which add to the constant state of fear that the population now lives under. If the globalists can maintain this chronic constant fear then folks loose their ability to think because they are consumed with stultifying fear.

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YYR's avatar

Weather channel has changed the game, they're all chasing ad revenue, using doom and fear to attract clicks and eyeballs.

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Valerie's avatar

You seem like you doubt the narratives, lol. Btw, excellent use of trademarks! Love it.

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SB's avatar

Yea and every rain storm that comes through Raleigh now gets a ranking of 1-4. We had a bad storm last week. You would've thought it as Armageddon or something. Not just the weather people on local news but the anchors were totally hyping the storm. Yea, some trees fell, some lost power but that can always happen. Must've been a slow news week or something else was happening they were trying to distract from?

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I bet this storm was geo engineered to discourage voters and cause chaos across the country. Dane Wiggington talks about it, but only to a degree.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

I guess this cold snap and all the snow is putting holes in the whole climate change agenda!!

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John A George's avatar

No, the whole climate change agenda, which is to blame CO2 for everything, is fully intact. CO2 is the gas of life, and comprises approximately 0.04% of the upper atmosphere. It's the old shell game, everyone obsessing about CO2, while the pea is under the geoengineering shell. Here's a candidate for President (RFK Jr.) that can't run in the democratic Democrat Party (the party claiming Republicans are fascists) primary talking with Dane Wigington about geoengineering: https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/us-presidential-candidate-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/

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Steve's avatar

BRILLIANT post Taiga Rohrer -- OMG -- fabulous!

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John A George's avatar

If we all don't wake up and realize there is a vast difference between Climate Change™/Global Warming™, which those in power are using as a smokescreen, and geoengineering, which is affecting every living organism on Earth, I fear all is lost. This video explains so much: https://www.bitchute.com/video/4AjqkiB8sLBQ/ More at geoengineeringwatch.org

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Now rain causes Atmospheric Rivers. 😉

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Tom's avatar

"It's because of the Global Boiling, you see . . ."

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

My favorite .

."a dark winter of death and disease".. . Isn't that what the ancient cryptkeeper, FJB wished us?

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WP William's avatar

Snow shoveling has ALWAYS caused heat attacks, since the first Neandertal tried to clear the cave entrance; it's why some wives pray for a deep heavy snow...pre-Vaxx data should be compared to this Winter and beyond just to see...maybe Pfizer has a branded sexy named nitro glycerine tablet they can sell burly guys who refuse to use a dirty climate-changing snow blower. How many fans strained their heart pre-game in Buffalo?

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JenMcK's avatar

Lol, I was just coming here to mention this. A very heavy, wet, deep snowfall like we just had has always had the chance to cause problems. I heard about "heart attack snow" living in NH in the 90's. However, the demographic it affected was much older people and they were conventional heart attacks which would more often respond to cpr and people could recover from them, not just drop dead with no hope of resuscitation at younger ages.

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Rachel Ann's avatar

Came here to say the same thing!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thought the same. Older and out of shape. Now we will see fit, young, and poisoned folks dropping dead. Just thinking

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yep - the jab has " leveled " the playing field. Literally.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Equal opportunity at its finest

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OnTheJump's avatar

"Equal" being the operative word, right? That's what they seek. "WE" (those that survive) will be equally impoverished....but happy. Yeah, right.

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MaryAnn's avatar

We, of the older demographic can afford to pay someone (younger) to shovel that blasted stuff. 😉

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randall stoehr's avatar

Very true. Extremely taxing on Heart Muscles in colder weather. I found this out first had while wearing fitbit fitness monitor that registers heart rate pulses quite well . After a two inch light powder snow during the day I went and had a nice work out casually shoveling my hundred ft driveway and loving the quiet of the new fallen snow at 4 pm. Done this many times. So after dinner I checked my Laptop fitness data for the day and was real surprised to find a pulse rate of 151 @430pm. I had to stop and think, what the hell was I doing at 430pm to rev my heart like this? Shoveling snow. And without so much as breathing hard or breaking a sweat. Now I know WHY so many elders have heart attacks.

It can be a surprising killer jolt to the un-fit and compromised. Jab or No Jab.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, my friend's dad (in his 70's) died from shoveling snow. Sad thing is he lived in a maintenance-provided community, but he thought they had not gotten there fast enough - my friend had said she was going to bring him some dinner so evidently he went out to shovel. She found a shovel propped up by the front door and he was sitting in his recliner dead. (this was 2018, so pre clot shot)

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Agree with WP William. I have been a nurse/Nurse Practitioner for 40 years now and have seen heart attacks throughout my career in ER and ICU. It's nothing new, but I love the fact "they" are blaming snow fall and shoveling as the cause for heart attacks, when otherwise, these may have never happened to healthy people. It's just another way to cull the populous.

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WP William's avatar

Safest place after a snow storm is on the couch....should be a CDC PSA campaign

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OnTheJump's avatar

Better a remote control in hand than a shovel!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Nope! Better a book in hand.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

And a cat on their lap.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Ahhh...an Austin Powers reference :))

Sub Klaus, and it works purrrrfectly.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

🤣 I really can’t take credit for that much cleverness. I just love being lazy with a kitty on my lap 🤣😁😂 Honey please get me some more coffee, I can’t get up right now.

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

I agree. I just told my husband that when I was growing up in Wisconsin, there were constantly snow shoveling heart attacks. Like every month. My whole life. Just part and parcel of inactive people going out and exerting themselves.

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Connie Benn's avatar

Yeah, that’s how my dad had a heart attack at 52 back in ‘77. So shoveling or even snow blowing snow can be an issue. Story has a happy ending, he lost weight and lived to 93.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Any chance he was shoveling in the Blizzard of '77 in Buffalo or surrounding Niagara region? That was a blast! Never seen anything like since. Snow pushed up on the roads so high, couldn't see the homes behind them for weeks till it all melted.

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Connie Benn's avatar

Ah, no…my family did live in the Buffalo area before I was born. But by 1977, we were in MA. And by ‘78, my Dad was fit enough to snowshoe to get bread and milk. In that storm, I didn’t have school for three weeks…but we did get homework in the mail.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I’ll always remember the Blizzard of 78 that hit Massachusetts. It was amazing; we were able to walk, for days, on highways and public streets to get to the local grocery store.

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Janet's avatar

Exactly. Why I always keep looking out the window and checking to see if my stubborn husband is still on his feet. It was very wet snow. A foot of it. I help as well. Both in our 70’s. Now if 15 year olds were dropping--that’s different. Very. Florida natives--give me a break. 🤣🤣🤣We couldn’t get out our front door or see the top of neighbors garage once when we lived on the Iowa plains.

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Justa Nobod-eeee's avatar

And yet, The Clot Shots' likely will result in a death spike (SWIDT?) because the modRNA is poison that some people still foolishly consume.

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SusanMc's avatar

SWIDT? Please explain....

“So What I Did Too” ?

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Notyours's avatar

"See what I did there"

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Tom's avatar

"It was commotio cordis. There was an icicle . . . and it fell . . ."

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Lyndsay's avatar

I enjoyed your line regarding CNN being worried that if they show Trump’s speech, he may mesmerize some democrats. That’s exactly what happened to me in 2020 when as a democrat and regular CNN watcher, I for the first time decided to tune directly into Trump speeches and hear his words for myself. I was very quickly mesmerized by his calm rational demeanor and common sense, and when I turned back to CNN to see how they covered it, I saw how they lied and twisted his words. It was so infuriating to me. It was the wake up call I needed, and I immediately became a very passionate Trump supporter, changed my voter registration, and from then on tuned into Tucker instead of Anderson cooper. I even bought a few new t shirts, one that said “CNN Fake News” and another Trump!

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Deb S's avatar

Welcome! My ‘awakening’ was due to the late, great Rush Limbaugh, shortly after 9/11. I kept hearing about the awful things he was saying, so I decided to tune in during my lunch break one day. I drove around in my car and listened for as long as I could before I had to return to work. I realized that I was being lied to about Rush, and started thinking, “If they are lying so badly about this one man, what *else* are they lying about?” It didn’t take long to realize ‘they’ were lying about pretty much everything. I never looked back!

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SB's avatar

I was always on the right but even I believed the bad Rush stories and avoided him. About 20 years ago, I finally got his book to find out for myself and realized "dude is legit!"

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Oma's avatar

Same with us, Deb! I was introduced to Rush by our new, young Pastor (interesting, huh) and I started listening on my lunch hour from my job as Administrator of a local High school! I was AMAZED, TERRIFIED, ANGRY AND MY ‘Gut Feel’ about public schools was validated! I’ve been on the warpath since that day! Well, my husband and kids would say I’ve always been on “the warpath” since day one and will be forever 😊

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Oma's avatar

Oh, and our kids are 58, 57, and 53 😂 (with 11 grandchildren)! And I only worked at school(s) because I refused to leave them with strangers and ‘volunteered’ every day until they finally offered me a job. And I transferred from each school they attended and was accused of ‘following’ my kids. Guilty.

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Deb S's avatar

LOL! Good for you for keeping an eye on things and staying involved. I bet things would look a lot different these days if parents bothered to be as involved like they used to be. I volunteered for *everything* when my daughter was in school. (It was a small Catholic school, so fewer concerns about the garbage in schools these days, but they appreciated the help!)

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MaryAnn's avatar

I was told about “Rush Rooms” where his radio broadcast was played for working people to gather over lunch. I was dumbfounded. It sounded like a cult. Then I tuned in to hear for myself. It was music to my conservative ears!

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Betsy Frost's avatar

It happened to me too, but earlier after Trump's first win. I watched actual footage and then compared it to the talking heads spin. It woke me up. And after that, I just couldn't unsee it and was disgusted by the reaction of family and friends. I have encouraged all to go to primary sources but just about everyone is too lazy and laps up the MSM pablum.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Congratulations on your awakening! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Lyndsay's avatar

Thank you! From day 1 of the pandemic in March 2020 I was not buying what CNN was selling. That’s what drove me to watch Trump myself. As I watched Anderson copper going hysterical over masks, I heard a voice in my head, or from Above say “these are not my people.” The veil was lifted at that moment. It just did not resonate with me and I had to find “my people”. When I turned to Tucker I felt I was in the right place. These are my people. Same with finding C&C! I had to learn the hard way that I couldn’t help my friends or family see, they were buying the CNN propaganda and nothing I could say or do opened their eyes. They just thought I lost my mind!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Not easy but worth it!

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Me too! I watched him directly and uncut after hearing both liberal and conservative talk show hosts characterize him. It was clear they were twisting his words and basically lying about what he means.

They continued it through his whole term. Fake news is correct.

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SB's avatar

Welcome!

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Brilliant! We need more like you.

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WP William's avatar

MOST ALL FARMERS are "Right Wing" they work and value production!

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gina's avatar

Whoever is Trumps Vice President is very important. I think the deep state might try to get rid of him someway, Vivek might be a plant, but I do like him. He is a good talker. I hope he picks Desantis or Ben Carson or Kari lake.

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Jpeach's avatar

Kari Lake for Trump’s VP!

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Sarah Bee's avatar

I was just thinking that as I read the post this morning. I believe his VP will be a woman

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Patrice's avatar

Oh, for a competent woman to show the Kamalas of the world what is possible when you use your brain instead of a mattress.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Zing!!!! 🎯

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jjinUK64's avatar

Apparently — gossip from within the Trump team — is that he wants a woman, which is probably wise, given his personality.

And the contenders being floated are Kari Lake, Kristi Noem and Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

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Natalie's avatar

I think Kari Lake is needed in the Senate, and it looks right now as if she could win, so I don't think he'll pick her. DeSantis will never be picked. He's run a terrible campaign, has flip-flopped on important issues like Ukaine, did not support Trump when his house was raided and all these indictments came down, and has alienated many Trump voters. Carson is great. I love Vivek and hope he's in it for 2028. Many people are saying Trump will pick a woman, like Sarah Huckabee Sanders or Kristi Noem.

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Freebird's avatar

I’m leaning toward Ben Carson as the smart choice. I see issues with both Huckabee (health) and Noem (inexperience).

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Anna T's avatar

I read that Huckabee Sanders had thyroid cancer but it's been treated. What other issue(s) does she have going on? I like her and think she would be a great choice for VP.

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Freebird's avatar

I really like her too, in fact much better than Noem. But nowadays when I hear that someone has cancer, my mind immediately goes to a jab related cancer and I fear that it may not be as treatable as some cancers used to be. I have no idea if she was jabbed or not, but with the larger percentage of society being so, the odds are that she was.

As for Noem, I don’t like her nearly as much as I used to. She still talks a good talk but her appearance is off putting to me. The artificially pumped lips, and the way she conducts herself sometimes screams immaturity. She is a beautiful woman, but as my mom always said, pretty is, as pretty does, and natural beauty is so much more appealing than going too far with beauty enhancements. They just make you look ridiculous.

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Anna T's avatar

Wasn't there some sort of "scandal" with Noem and a married man? It went away quickly so maybe it wasn't even true in the first place.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I love Kari Lake. She was there last night. But Trump said she will be a great Senator. She is needed there. Unless she gets her rightful position as Governor.

Trump said he has already decided who it will be. I'm leaning to Ben Carson or Gen. Flynn.

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NAB's avatar

Dave - do you think there is any chance he chooses Neocon Nikki?

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Not a chance, she is the choice of the globalists.

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NAB's avatar

That's the answer I needed to hear. Thanks.

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SusanMc's avatar

I pray you’re correct!

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Bitsy54's avatar

If Trump hasn’t learned from previous bad picks, Barr and Pence immediately come to mind, I don’t know where his head is!? His base HATES Neocon Nikki the way the world hated Kackala with Biden.

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Bgagnon's avatar

"Kackala" .... love it!!!!! 🤣

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Christy's avatar

Can you imagine? I pray he’s learned SOMETHING from his last presidency!!

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Undine's avatar

I've noticed that no one seems to be mentioning Rand Paul as a possible running mate, but he seems to me a strong candidate.

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Natalie's avatar

Rand Paul has not endorsed Trump. He's said he'll endorse anybody but Nikki. I really like Rand Paul for a number of reasons, but I've been upset with him about the vaccines. He's been Fauci's nemesis about masks and the COVID origin, but he has said virtually nothing about the problems with vaccines. I don't think he took the vax because he had natural immunity, but he said others in his family did take it and he thought that was fine. I believe that it was Marjorie Taylor Green who said, when she had the recent hearing on vaccine injuries, that Paul was interested only in the origin of COVID. Sen. Ron Johnson has been the only senator to focus on harms of the vaccines. Charlie Kirk has actually mentioned him as a possible VP choice because he would bring Wisconsin to Trump. He's won hard-fought victories in the state.

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Christy's avatar

I’ve liked him for forever!!! We def need a libertarian!!!!

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Erin Fight's avatar

I was a big Rand fan until I learned his wife had dumped big $$$ I to Gilead prior to their ramping up of Remdesivir (RunDeathIsNear).as a treatment for CV. For those who don't know, upwards of 58% of people taking that rx go into kidney failure.

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Christy's avatar

Thank you for the info!!!!!

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Erin Fight's avatar

It made my heart sink. I really liked him. I had voted and campaigned for his dad, back in the day. There is almost nobody I trust in Congress now. Maybe Massey, I'm just not getting my hopes up. We need a massive overhaul.

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SusanMc's avatar

Many died; kidney failure, fluid buildup in lungs.... all while on those trusty ventilators

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Texas nurse's avatar

I think he should choose Tucker Carlson!

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OnTheJump's avatar

... 🤔

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

I wouldn't mind Dr Ben running the country. He's calm and smart.

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shayne's avatar

Yes, Kari Lake.

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Beemac's avatar

Heart attack when shoveling snow happens so I would be looking at the numbers from previous years to compare.

Here’s a good early report on the German farmers protest. https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/the-german-farmers-are-greatly-angry

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NAB's avatar

Eugyppius is a great read. He's been solid through and after Covid. An interesting and thoughtful perspective.

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Valerie's avatar

I find it so interesting that Vivek Ramaswamy is always referred to by his first name while with all the other candidates it’s their last name. My prevailing theory is that it’s just harder to spell Ramaswamy.

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jjinUK64's avatar

He may have been wiser to go by: Vivek Rama.

But when asked about, he said he felt really strongly that lying /spinning about something so basic as his *own name* is just not who he is, and he'd rather lose being authentic, than play a false character.

I take his point, and I do respect that.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes, I agree he was trying to be authentic but it was also a dig on Haley.

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Anna T's avatar

Vivek is smart, energetic, and quick on his feet. Loved the "interviews" with press where he turned the tables on them. We do need more conservatives like that!

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jjinUK64's avatar

Indeed, most definitely.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

And you are correct.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Good morning. Not much happening I see. Here, it's 4 below zero right now, perhaps going up to 10 degrees. Not as bad as what the hardy ( and hearty ), salt of the earth folks braved in Iowa yesterday.

Hmmm, who does Lloyd Austin actually report to?

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Valerie's avatar

I live in south Texas and it’s 20 degrees here. We are freezing, I tell you! Don’t laugh at us, we aren’t used to this! ;-)

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NAB's avatar

20 degrees is cold no matter where you are says this Upstate New Yorker.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

One of the reasons I left

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I lived all over upstate, Weedsport and Baldwinsville before I moved to Florida ( God blessed me, it was unexpected)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Nah, single digits and below zero is cold says this ex western New Yorker 😉 If I can get by with only two layers on top and one on the bottom for my run it’s not really cold 😁

With that said… it’s all relative and personal perception anyway 🙂

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Notyours's avatar

That first 1/2 mile can be a bear though! Especially if windy.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh yes! The hardest part is getting outside and that first five minutes-1/2 mile or so! After that it’s fine!

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NAB's avatar

You are made from tougher stuff than me, RL. I used to run in pretty much any weather. I mean, I had all the gear and the traction cleats and when I was fully outfitted I looked like a terrorist on the road. But, something happened when I hit my mid-40s. I got soft. I started raising the temperature threshold under which I would not go out. Used to be 15 (but no wind), then went up to 20 (again, no wind is a must) and now I'm like,".....um, we're flirting with 40, I don't know...." I am a total wuss now :) I also hurt my back a few years ago so had to take some time off from running but I have found "rucking" and snowshoeing in the winter to be good replacements. Finally, now in my (gulp) late 50s, I really worry about slipping on ice and breaking something. Isn't that awful?? It happened so quickly!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Everyone is different 🙂 And if you don’t get enough out of doing something when it’s just a hobby and not an obligation of some sort, you shouldn’t do it! I always feel good after my runs even the cold ones, so I keep on doing them 🙂

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NAB's avatar

Exactly. And to be brutally honest, though I ran for 30+ years, I can't say I ever enjoyed the process. Some runs were pure mind over matter with me saying, "just one more step, one more step." And I did some serious training for marathons. Not sure why I stuck with it as long as I did except to say I really like food :)

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Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

South Texas too- many years. I’m starting to think we need a re-look at our gardening zones after these last 3-4 years!!

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Valerie's avatar

Right? But then the summers are still like the surface of the sun... it’s hard to plant for that by any definition.

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Anna T's avatar

I was in the Corpus Christi area back in August after over 25 years of not being there. Gah. Almost 100° every day and not much cooler at night! And I forgot how many and persistent the mosquitos are.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

My sister lived in Montgomery TX for many years. Remember that cold in February a few years ago that froze up those stupid wind turbines? Texas had no backup apparently. She was out of power for almost three days, in that cold. They moved to NC last year.

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Valerie's avatar

Yep, 2021. It was my birthday weekend.

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

-7 here in frosty Kansas

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Dr Linda's avatar

Minus 4 on my deck here in Missouri above the river. We thaw out tomorrow.

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Cindi's avatar

It was 9 degrees this morning in southern NM but we’re supposed to be 71 on Thursday. Chem trails (they’ve been hard at work here so I imagine same everywhere else) is my theory

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Dr Linda's avatar

Wow, huge temp jump. We are headed for the upper thirties tomorrow.

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VanLife Views's avatar

39 over here outside Yuma AZ

Should warm slowly to 71 😎

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Dr Linda's avatar

Shorts weather! Yippee

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Valerie's avatar

My daughter is in KS! She laughed at me when I told her I was cold. Rude.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I lived in San Diego for grad school. When it got down around 30 degrees, we thought it unbearable, however we still wore shorts but with a down jacket.

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Cindi's avatar

I attended USD in the late 70’s & remember February as a usually unpleasant month but the rest of the year was fab

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Dr Linda's avatar

I never liked the Santa Anas blowing. I was always unsettled by those hot winds.

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Cindi's avatar

I was born & raised in AZ so hot winds didn’t bother me but lack of air conditioning sure did, w/ so much humidity off the ocean

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Janet's avatar

-11 here. Windchill -31. Northern Illinois. Walmart will still be busy.

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shayne's avatar

At least it's sunny today, not that it's warming anything, but it does look nice :)

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Janet's avatar

True. Snow is stuck to bushes and trees. It’s beautiful. Been taking photos.

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CStone's avatar

Good question.

Who does Brandon answer to?

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Bgagnon's avatar

No one .... haven't you noticed? 😆

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Freedom Fox's avatar

The CCP and WEF. That's who Austin actually reports to. And one can hardly say our nation is more vulnerable and threatened without it's top military traitor on the job. I know I feel safer without him there giving orders to soldiers to play Russian Jab Roulette, wear rainbow tutu's, hate their WHITE heritage and abandoning them and their gear in distant lands.

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Beth Bart's avatar

Happy good morning C&C peeps 🌞☕️🐣

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