Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, were listening to all these things and were scoffing at Him. And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts, for that which is highly esteemed among men is detestable in the sight of God.”
...There is that wonderful story in the gospel of John where the scribes and Pharisees brought to Jesus a women taken in adultery, and attempting to trap him, asked if the women should be stoned according to the law of Moses.
Christ did not answer straight away, but rather stooped down and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he didn't hear them. The Pharisees persisted, and after a time Christ lifted himself up and answered, "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast the stone at her." And again, stooped down.
For me, this seemingly distracted gesture — the stooping down and writing on the ground — is Christ accessing the God inside himself. Christ then delivers the line that dis-empowers his opponents - and what an extraordinary remark it is - and then stoops again to re-commune with God.
What Christ shows us here, is that the creative imagination has the power to combat all enemies; that we are protected by the flow of our own inspiration. —Nick Cave, The Flesh Made Word
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. —Matthew 23:23-31
This story is a remarkable and moving part of the gospel, but I must interject that Jesus IS God. No accessing necessary. I am not familiar with Nick Cave or the title that I assume is a book, but just this excerpt is not scriptural. There is no spiritual power in our imagination, but in the Christ who dwells within the believer. We are not protected by the “flow of our own inspiration” (whatever that means), but by the power of the Holy Spirit who indwells the believer.
Begging to differ with this statement, “There is no spiritual power in our imagination”.
Our imagination is just another part of the divine expression in each of us. (God made humans in His likeness), thus I believe there is spiritual power in our imagination, driven by His spirit within each of us. What a dull world of humanity we’d be without God-given, individual imagination.
YES!! All of the evil in this world is done by dull, boring, people who insist that everyone else follow the rules they create. When we as believers access our God given creativity, we run circles around evil, by the God given authority that dwells in us!
How? Food is genetically modified for sure, but they aren’t dumping random MRNA into the food supply. That would be the most ineffective delivery system to be thought of. MRNA also isn’t magic. It would be be destroyed by our digestive system or excreted long before it was able to “ infect” the body, if consumed by mouth. Also the link you posted is designed to sell me something, not explain your comment.
and in ALL of us, but you either love it or block it... encourage the God in you or deny it and self-destruct. Is pretty simple. I love 'hello dave' on X headline.... 'your worst sin is that you betrayed yourself for nothing' .... satan got you to believe a lie and you fell for it not knowing you needed to do nothing, you were perfect just as you are. Same as vaxxinating...you could have done NOTHING and been just fine but have now invited this drama into your life b/c you listened to BS instead of your own heart.
Not in scripture, but I've heard it suggested that Jesus was writing out each man's hidden sin for him to see.
When Jesus preached the Gospel, He addressed the stumbling blocks in the way of the person to whom He was preaching. E.g., the rich young ruler, who said, (paraphrasing) "Good teacher, what must I do? I have followed the law from my youth." Jesus asked, "Why do you call me good?" The man should have responded that he called Him good because he is God in human flesh. The man didn't know Him.
The man also felt that his works justified him. Also, when told to sell everything and follow Jesus, the man went away sad, because he couldn't let go of his possessions.
To make a long reply even longer, Jesus knew what was in the hearts of the men who were testing Him by bringing the woman they were accusing. I find it plausible that He would write out their most hidden sins in front of them.
The specificity of His accounts is notable when he is sharing the Gospel. Another example is the woman at the well: (Paraphrasing) "You have had 5 husbands, and the man you are with now is not your husband."
I like the idea of Jesus reminding them that God wrote the 10 Commandments by writing them in the dirt with his finger. But there’s another place about a finger writing: the finger that writes MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN on the walls of Belshazzar’s palace. “You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting.” Jesus might have written *those* words in the dirt! Fun to speculate.
This is the central tenet. Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, the incarnate Son of God. He is The Word as Randall points out in both John 1 and Genesis 1.
The operative adjective here is incarnate. Jesus was/is the incarnate Word. Preachers often are not clear about what that means. Incarnate is a Latinate word meaning “in the meat”. A more elegant way of saying the same thing is “in the flesh”. So Jesus was/is the component of the Godhead named the Word, and the Word clothed in human flesh is who Jesus is. The humanity of Jesus was mortal or else he could not have died. Jesus operated all his ministry life as a spirit filled human just as Adam was after his was created. Unlike Adam, Jesus continuously rejected the Satanic lie he could be better off operating independently from God, and thereby qualified himself as the Lamb of God to be sacrificed for Adam’s sin. The scripture says that Jesus was tempted in all points just like we are but as a human being dependent on the unfeeling spirit to lead and empower him. Refer to John 5 where Jesus is recorded clearly stating his complete dependence on the Father.
Just wanted to add, that according to Torah, if a couple was caught in adultery, BOTH man and a woman were supposed to be stoned. Yet- they only brought a woman to be stoned.
Even after walking with him almost 50 years I am still astounded that God, the Creator of All, I AM, became flesh and lived amongst us. Just for him to come and experience our dirt and dust bodies is miraculous. Then he returns to his throne and sends Holy Spirit to live inside of us and speak to our spirits. How amazing and what a great love for his people, his creation, his chosen, is that?!!
This may sound like I quibbling but I find many are foggy concerning the biblical statements about the dirty and the humanity of Christ. The operative adjective to consider here is incarnate. The spiritual component of Jesus was/is the Word per John 1. Preachers often are not clear about what that means. Incarnate is a Latinate word meaning “in the meat”. A more elegant way of saying the same thing is “in the flesh”. So Jesus was/is the component of the Godhead named the Word, and the Word clothed in human flesh is who Jesus is. The humanity of Jesus was mortal or else he could not have died. Jesus operated all his ministry life as a spirit filled human just as Adam was after his was created. Unlike Adam, Jesus continuously rejected the Satanic lie he could be better off operating independently from God, and thereby qualified himself as the Lamb of God to be sacrificed for Adam’s sin. The scripture says that Jesus was tempted in all points just like we are but as a human being dependent on the unfeeling spirit to lead and empower him. Refer to John 5 where Jesus is recorded clearly stating his complete dependence on the Father.
Also, I like word derivation in particular. Like to know that words like Pope derived from the Greek/πάππας, Romanized as páppas, literally meaning 'father'. I like knowing that the Russian 'паппа' meaning 'pappa' or 'dad' comes from the Greek. I also note that when Christ uses words like 'father', 'son' and 'children', as he habitually always does, the family construct is emphasized. This, I note, is something that the corporatized Marxist state loaths, and so full of contempt and hate attempts to raze such to the ground. I believe that transhumanism is aimed in the same direction. That is, does a cyborg have a mother and father? A brother and/or sister? No, this cannot be, because a cyborg created out of synthetic biology and it processes is no longer strictly speaking genetically human. This maybe a simplification, but one that makes a specific point.
Not sure you’re correct about she is not having any limitations here. If he was 100% in his fully God state he would not have had to go and pray all the time. Jesus, elected to have certain limitation’s here, and one of them most likely was the need to do as we do to intentionally seek communion with the father. We have no idea what the Trinity entails. We have no idea what it means to be all God and all man. It’s like like being a particle and a wave. We don’t know when it’s either. I think we need to just let the mystery be the mystery.
Keep your old physical Bibles. Why do I say that? Because what is happening in Xi Jinping’s China could happen anywhere including here. CHINA IS REWRITING THE BIBLE (which hadn’t been released at the time of Michael Youssef’s book) BUT YOUSSEF SHARED PORTIONS THAT HAVE BECOME PUBLIC‼️
According to pastor Michael Youssef, in his book “Is the End Near?”
Quote from pages 57 & 58:
“Now brace yourself for the Communist version of this story (about the adulterous woman that they wanted to stone to death) After the crowd of accusers departs, Jesus tells the woman “I too am a sinner. But if the law could only be executed by men without blemish, the law would be dead.” Then Jesus picks up stones Himself - and He stones the woman to death.” This is blasphemy on every level.”
As part of a push to "sinicize" religion, the Chinese Communist Party has embarked on a 10-year project to rewrite the Bible and other religious texts.
The 10-year project to rewrite the Bible, Quran and other sacred texts is all part of Xi Jinping’s quest to make the faithful serve the party rather than God.
Representative Mike Gallagher (R-WI) cited two cases of the CCP rewriting portions of the Bible. The first from the account in the Gospel of John of Jesus telling the woman caught in adultery to “go, and from now on sin no more,” after telling the scribes and Pharisees, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her (John 8:3-11, ESV).” A textbook from a Chinese university appeared in 2020 with the account from the Gospel of John rewritten to end with “Jesus himself stoning the adulterous woman to death,” according to Rep. Gallagher.
The second is a report that CCP authorities in Henan province “forced Protestant churches to replace the Ten Commandments with Xi Jinping quotes,” changing the first commandment from, “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me,” (Exodus 20:3, KJV) to, “Resolutely guard against the infiltration of Western ideology.”
The estimated 100 million Christians in China make the eradication of Christianity from China difficult. Chairman Mao tried and was unsuccessful. President Xi prefers a more subtle tactic than Mao’s, a campaign to “Sinicize” religion to make it more compatible with the teachings of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
While China may technically allow Christianity, it only allows a version of Christianity remade in the image of the CCP. These developments, among many others, make this a critical time in the history of religion in China. On Friday, the Vatican officially renewed its controversial deal with Beijing from 2018, making it even more so.
➡️ China To Christians: We're Rewriting The Bible, And You'll Use It Or Else
To me, and although a Sino-rewrite of the Bible is surprising, I take it as good news. Why? Because it is a prior admission from the Chinese state apparatus that there is something 'out there' which is so threatening to Communist state power that it has to tamper with it. And do these deluded Commies really think that people will not see and get what is going on? And how such a brain dead plan as the Commie Bible will only serve to make people hunger and thirst after The Real Deal?
So, and with this, the Commie Chinese state's days are numbered. It may take decades for the Commie Party to self-destruct. But nonetheless, I know that the self-destruction of the Commies in China is already written, even though I at 74 years will never see the day of the coming end.
The content of the adulteress women starts in John 7 where JESUS goes to the Fesst of Tabernacles. HE says this on the last great day of the feast
On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. Here HE’S saying that HE’S the Fountain of Living Waters. In John 8 it say on the next day which is called Simchat Torah which is Rejoicing in the Torah. Noticed that they said “ The Law says she should be stoned .” A question about the Law when they were celebrating the Law. They’ve rejected JESUS already. HIS response could be tied back to this
O LORD, the hope of Israel, All who forsake You shall be ashamed. “Those who depart from Me Shall be written in the earth, Because they have forsaken the LORD, The fountain of living waters.”
J Vernon McGee (and many other commentators) have suggested that what Jesus wrote on the ground was the sins of her accusers, perhaps even the names of women with whom they had committed adultery.
This is all speculation (as McGee made clear) as the Bible doesn't tell us. But I have to agree with Janice, there was no need to "access" his godhood. Jesus was fully God and fully man, He didn't switch back and forth. I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but it does seem like that's what you are saying.
The dual nature of Christ was settled long ago by the early church fathers, yet it still for some reason causes division nearly two millennia later.
Hey no problem, some of us have a hair trigger when on "heresy patrol". Not sure I understand the intent of your exercise though, I'd hardly call pointing out potentially false doctrine regarding the essentials of the faith as being a scribe. This isn't hair-splitting legalism here but a foundational principle.
But glad we are agreed on the essentials of the faith.
No exercise. The only intent was to share something beautiful in a dark world growing ever darker.
There's this notion that there is only one proper interpretation of Christ's words and works. I do not buy into this. He will reach out to different people in different ways to accommodate their unique perceptions, they just have to be open to and accepting of Him. When he said this:
"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men"
This is what I believe he was referring to. You may disagree and point to settled evidence that an interpretation is wrong, but that is exactly the point I am making here. If the goal is to follow Him and get others to do the same then barring the way by dogging their personal analysis defeats this purpose.
Jesus who was both the son of God and the son of man spoke to every man. He opened the doors of his kingdom and beckoned to everyone. He showed them the path and asked them to join him there.
Good chatting with you sir, we certainly agree on the essentials . Always a pleasure.
It's important that we seek the most coherent interpretations of doctrine by verifying scripture with scripture, and in the proper context.
He knows the worldview of the original reader, and He knows our worldview, and He knows that we can put ourselves in their past shoes, but they could not put themselves in our future shoes.
The supernatural nature of the Bible is apparent in its coherence across millenia, among many other evidences.
And that coherence brings us to Truth. THE Truth, of which there is one. The Holy Spirit in the believer will lead him to the Truth.
You're right in that He will reach out to different people in different ways. But there is one Truth, Jesus Christ, the Word incarnate, and He does not change to suit men.
Psalm 119:160 (ESV)
"The sum of Your word is truth, and every one of Your righteous rules endures forever."
This is the Psalmist, praying to Yahweh.
I agree that we can each find the Truth when empowered by His Spirit. But I am convinced that this Truth is apparent in it's coherence, and not in my own understanding.
The danger is apparent in the myriad of false gospels being preached today, and more false gospels are forthcoming in the day of deception addressed in 2 Thessalonians 2. It's easy to fashion a false Christ, as we have seen many do. He said, "Believe in the One My Father sent."
I'm not suggesting, at all, that you are fashioning a false Christ. I'm merely pointing out the danger, in an age of deception, if reliance on the understanding of men is taken to an extreme.
Brother, please don't take this as contentious or a rebuke. It's sent with love. We're all working out our salvation in fear and trembling here. Thank you for generating this discussion!
The ‘way’ in which some read the Word and PERCEIVE the Word is called ‘PRDS’ (pronounced PaRDeS’
Peshat (פְּשָׁט) – "surface" ("straight") or the literal (direct) meaning.[7]
Remez (רֶמֶז) – "hints" or the deep (allegoric: hidden or symbolic) meaning beyond just the literal sense. In the version of the New Zohar, Re'iah.
Derash (דְּרַשׁ) – from Hebrew darash: "inquire" ("seek") – the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences.
Sod (סוֹד) – "secret" ("mystery") or the esoteric/mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation.
And I have found this to be true.
Yeshua perceived the meaning of His Father’s Instruction from the literal meaning to the ‘secret’ or hidden Truths. He taught in such a way that a child could see the basic truth, and the scholar could dig deeper and find the deeper meaning of His teaching. Like the man who found the pearl, went and sold all he had to buy the field so that he would be able to have the ‘pearl of great price’.
Because, let’s face it. I’m not the brightest bulb, so I mostly understand the Word on the most basic level. Yet occasionally He gives me insight to a little deeper understanding. I’m thankful that He did it in such a way that the simple can understand, yet the scholar will not be bored, but get excited to dig further that the simple-minded (like me) would be able to.
I loved this, thanks for posting it. (...going "through it" on the career front right now, and this cheered me greatly.) Have you read any Emmanuel Swedenborg?
The same inability to grasp the dual nature of Christ is very similar to the problem so many have with the Trinity. Those are difficult concepts for us to wrap our minds around…but become easier when we submit our minds to understanding God’s word, meaning to realize that as a child of God we must have the humility to come as a child, with child-like faith, not being proud in our intellect and ability to reason out the mysteries of God.
I think this is why so many intellectuals reject God or faith in God. They use their reasoning to make sense of everything, and it may work well for them up to a point…the point at which you must unscrew the inscrutable, as I heard a preacher say….
I believe we are all divine expressions of God, experiencing in human form, here on earth. We are not the first or only creations of God. Lucifer was originally also a son of God who rebelled and has never repented and returned to his original status.
We are self-separated from our original relationship with God by our sinful nature, though we have been forgiven by His grace and the sacrifice of His son, in human form, should we choose to acknowledge and accept, along with the Holy Spirit, which is God incarnate; the Trinity.
The disconnect is within each of us until we fully re-member with whom we truly are. We, as humans, were originally created, in the likeness of God. This return to our original status is only accomplished by our denouncing the sin that separates us from God, our faith in His promise, and the acceptance of His gift of Jesus’ sacrifice, in human form, to serve as our Savior.
While much of what you have to say here is true, what you have said about Lucifer is not in keeping with scripture.
Lucifer is a fallen angel. He is not a son of God. The Bible makes it clear in the various passages where angelic beings are mentioned that:
1. They were created by God to be His servants
2. They can be extremely powerful, but their power was granted to them to be used only at God's express command and within His divine will.
3. They think and reason, and interact with God, with us, with each other, with animals, and with all of creation.
4. Lucifer aspired to become something that he was not, to replace God, but like all created beings and despite his tremendous power and previously high position in heaven, he is still finite and limited, and is not capable of overthrowing or displacing God.
5. So; in his rebellion, he was cast down and bound/limited to here, on this earth.
6. Angels were not offered a means to forgiveness once they chose to disobey. There is NO redemption possible for Lucifer.
7. They can appear to humans in human form, but they can also appear in other forms as well (as in Ezekiel's vision). This also has implications re: the Nephilim as well as demonic possession/demonic activity.
8. The angelic forces of good and evil battle it out unseen in the heavenly realm, and their battles often have consequences for us here in the temporal realm, as when a message Daniel sought from God was delayed in reaching him.
9. Satan/Lucifer roams the earth like a raging lion, seeking whom he will devour, however, as in the case of Job, he is NOT PERMITTED to go beyond the strict limits that God has set on his depredations.
10. Satan/Lucifer is the accuser of the brethren.
11. When the new heaven and new earth come to pass, we will be higher than the angels and we will judge them.
12. When this old earth and the old heaven pass away and are thrown into the lake of fire, Satan/Lucifer will also be thrown into the lake of fire along with all fallen angels.
I stand corrected; Satan was originally a creation of God, as are we, and all other beings, which many refer to, perhaps incorrectly, the creations of God as his children; sons and daughters of God. Thank you.
Jeremiah 17:13 “Lord, the hope of Israel, all who abandon You will be put to shame. All who turn away from Me will be written in the dirt, for they have abandoned the Lord, the fountain of living water.”
I often see Christians preaching holiness being called "pharisees." This is done by people who do not understand doctrine.
Pharisees practiced "righteousness" for the sake of self-aggrandizement, and self-justification. They "white-knuckled" it for the sake of puffing themselves up. The leaven of the pharisees.
Christians practicing sound doctrine are obedient when they, through the Spirit, put to death the deeds of the flesh. Through the Spirit.
My failures are all mine, and I often pray that Yahweh will grant me true repentance.
Great points, Tom, and while we’re mentioning doctrine, please let us all pray, as JC requests, for “the Supreme Court to take a bulldozer to the Chevron doctrine”.
Hebrews 4:1 - For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
I also think about the fact that in Genesis, God spoke, and it came into being.
Also, Proverbs 18:21 - The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.
Yes, words are very powerful. It's why leftists strive so hard to control the language.
Logos (λόγος) is simply the Greek word for "word". John's Gospel clearly parallels the beginning of Genesis (In the beginning God created ... God said, "let there be ..." vs "In the beginning was the Word... all things were created through Him..."), so it seems intentional that we make connections there. God created by speaking, and the power of His words was such that it caused the universe to exist?
Some scholars say that in the cultural context, it would have been understood that the "Word" here refers to an attribute of a deity's power that is personified (sometimes called a "hypostasis"). God's Word is so powerful that it takes on a partially-independent existence, and now you've got the beginnings of the Trinity...
Thanks good point... Words have power and multiple meanings.
Whether "word" means logos or not, it was just something I saw that made me think. I get the definition from the context but the magnitude that verse is hard to grasp.
I was raised learning about the trinity but I have reservations about man's doctrines. There is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, but there is something off with the trinity doctrine I haven't figured out yet. I could be wrong but it is part of questioning and learning and it does not affect my salvation.
I don't like that they say they are equal for one. I do not think they are equal, but are a part of God. They have different purposes and are controlled by God the Father.
If they were equal, they would know the same things and be able to do the same things, but they can't.
I questioned an excellent pastor and he explained it well but not convincingly. He did admit trinity word is not in the Bible and the doctrine is man made...but Biblical...
I am not going to take a pastor's word for anything unless I see it in the Bible and my spirit is well with it.
Yeah, "trinity" is just a word we came up with to explain what the Bible says about God/Jesus/Spirit. eg, Jesus claims to be the God of Israel and have the power to do things only God can do, but he also prays to the Father so they aren't the same person... and the Spirit comes down on Jesus as a dove so the Spirit is separate too, and so forth. We try to understand it as best we can, and many theologians down through the centuries have had their turn writing about it.
Whether they are precisely "equal" and in what sense (eg you pointed out, they can't be totally identical since they know different things at different times) and how the relationship between them works, well it's probably not something we can really know exactly as humans, since we only know what God has revealed. My take is that God is so far above us, that for all practical purposes we should treat all three persons as equally great anyway, and if we're not sure about anything, then just stick to the parts of the Bible that are more clear. We're called to follow our Lord, not to correctly understand every fact about His being.
After reading comments from Janice and Tritorch, I cannot unsee the group of six devotees of destruction sitting around that MSNBC table, seemingly unfamiliar with Jesus’ teachings.
I don't often comment on people's understanding of scripture because I enjoy learning what folks think. Once I heard a teacher wonder if Jesus was perhaps writing out the sins of the people in the crowd, generally speaking like "theft"..."lies"...etc and when the crowd read the sin, they each individually turned away.
It remains the same today: none of us are sinless.
I remember a sermon on these verses, which cast several different ideas of the significance and symbolism of Christ using his finger to write in the dirt. The 10 Commandments were written by God’s finger in stone. Christ is God and His finger once again possibly wrote a commandment. Supposedly the actual original language of Christ’s words were not “He who is without sin, cast the first stone,” but, “He who is without THIS sin, cast the first stone.” Christ knew the hearts of these Pharisees. They were not just guilty of sin, as we all are, they were guilty of adultery. Did Christ simply rewrite the commandment not to commit adultery in the dirt at His feet? Did he perhaps use his finger once again to write the commandment in ‘stone’ for them to see? I can’t wait to get to heaven and get that question answered. Nevertheless the Pharisees knew they were guilty and walked away. In all things I want the light of truth to shine: let our political leaders have their deeds, good and bad, shown in truth, let our medical leaders and policy leaders and military leaders and corporate leaders and religious leaders, and so on and so forth have their deeds, good and bad, shown in truth! Let the light of truth shine and expose the good and the bad, so we can all walk in the light of truth!!!
Did he perhaps write from the Prophets, where God calls out the people of Israel for figuratively committing adultery against him by chasing after other gods? And/or a reference to things that these Pharisees were chasing after instead of God? Interesting thought.
I second what Janice - Words Beyond Me had to say about this, but I also want to point out that what Jesus was writing in the dust had to be something pretty powerful. Some people have speculated that it was the Ten Commandments, which would make sense in this context with "he that is without sin, let him cast the first stone."
They would know, reading what He wrote in the dust at their feet that they had a serious problem.
”And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?” And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!“
The Jewish leaders were always seeking power over the people, not obedience to God. Their constant unyielding rules were just stumbling blocks for the people seeking God. We still have leaders in the churches doing this. Repent and be baptized is a must do, as Jesus was our example for this. Most of the other rules are a power play.
Janice, just came across Luke 16:14-15 myself and thought, nothing has changed since then. The same group of scoffers and lovers of money control the vast majority of people now.
I am happy to be "low."
Philippians 2:3-4 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.
No GOP candidate has ever won the Iowa Caucus by more than 12 points. Trump just won’t it by 30 with 95% reporting.
This HISTORIC landslide is a catastrophic indicator for DeSantis, Haley, and Vivek supporters, as well as the Dems.
Trump LOST Iowa in 2016 to Ted Cruz, 27.6% to 24.3%. Trump just secured 51% of the vote by himself in 2024. That’s a seismic shift. Even if the anti-Trumpers were to go all-in on one candidate, they STILL couldn’t beat Trump.
Trump’s base are energized and just made an emphatic statement to kick off election season. The media are in a full-blown panic because they know this performance indicates their propaganda is not working. Trump is more popular than ever.
I hate to disagree with Jeff, but Nikki Haley is not one of the good guys. A win for her would be a defeat for just about everything conservatives hold dear. Actually, there are only three good guys: Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy. Pence may have been the worst of the bad guys, but not by much.
Nikki is the worst possible type of candidate — a warmongering neocon RINO, who will say literally anything her donors tell her to. And her donors are the uniparty swamp crocodiles.
Nikki is just the Republican's Hilary Clinton. A very, very bad and dangerous candidate. Any hope of reform or change would die instantly, if she was elected. [Which is why so many big donors, including Democratic donors, want her.]
On the flip side, Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy are all good men, just of different flavours / personal styles. It's a shame Vivek did not beat out Hayley — I would have liked to see him stay in the race, and keep crow-barring the Overton Window open. But he ran a clean, honest campaign, and handled the defeat very gracefully and pragmatically. I hope he sticks around in politics, he is the future of the R party, imo.
Ok, well I just explained in great detail that this is not correct.
But you're free to believe it, of course. That's up to you.
I don't really understand this puritanical end of the 'freedom' movement who now seem to be implying that *all medicine* is evil, and so is anyone who ever went near the sector. That is clearly a ridiculous position.
Lots of medical products are unnecessary and harmful, without a doubt. The sector is also one of the most corrupt out there, especially at the top, and in the parts that dovetail with State research & defence.
Having said that, we obviously need hospitals. And doctors. And safe medicines like antibiotics, etc. These things are not evil, they are necessary and good. I think the focus should be on instituting radical transparency so we can root out the bad (rather than burning down the entire edifice and then realising we don't have any medicines to help the sick). Just my two cents.
I have loved ones walking around today who simply wouldn't be here if not for the various pharmaceuticals they continue to ingest. I wouldn't want to take what they take, but I prefer they are here with me, and not dead. The evil is in the lying and the fake journal reports. There's a lot about the bureaucratic agencies and big pharma and big government that needs to be cleaned up.
Although what you say is true, Vivek was never Big Pharma. He started and sold an alternative BioTech company and has since moved on to an anti-ESG company.
Thank you for your sensible and in depth analysis. Too many people want perfect even though they themselves are not nor can anyone be. So that’s completely unrealistic and counterproductive.
Is this your great detail? If it isn’t than I missed it. On the flip side, Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy are all good men, just of different flavours / personal styles. It's a shame Vivek did not beat out Hayley — I would have liked to see him stay in the race, and keep crow-barring the Overton Window open. But he ran a clean, honest campaign, and handled the defeat very gracefully and pragmatically.
Maybe you should check out the above video someone shared and follow Viveks past.
Vivek is also sponsored by BIG money from Epstein associates. We know only the tip of that Epstein iceberg. What occurred on that island probably would put Molech to shame.
I can't figure out how to paste in a screenshot, but FOX NEWS reported: Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein associate funneled large donations to Vivek Ramaswamy, several Dems....on January 5, 2024. It was reported by Joe Schoffstall and Cameron Cawthorne. I found this on Telegram posted by Joe Rogan.
Trump supporter here. I liked Vivek too- I do think he is the smartest guy in the race, HOWEVER, I watched this video about his pharma connections and now I’m a bit wary
Respectfully, this keyboard warrior is not understanding how a development pipeline works.
Let me explain:
The business of developing medicines involves having multiple products in your "pipeline", meaning that you are researching, developing and trialing a range of medicines. This is basic risk management — many of the drugs will fail, only a few will ever be successful, so you must have a healthy pipeline in order to stay afloat.
Not all the products will be viable, but when you hit on one that is, it could become hugely valuable, very fast. For financial and legal prudence, the big firms tend to 'wrap' each drug dev line into a dedicated subsidiary structure. That way, if one drug fails, they just wind down that one sub-company (that existed as a 'wrapper' for that one enterprise). This is also done to keep general IP / assets away from legal suits against a specific product.
It's industry standard practice is what I'm saying, and it's not nefarious behaviour, it's what large (particularly publicly traded) companies do — it's a huge company, but actually it's a series of small companies doing this and that, living under one umbrella / corporate family.
Axovant is the sub-company created to pursue trials of a specific Alzheimer’s drug. That drug was not successful. Many of the drugs they develop are not / will not be successful.
Investors still continue to invest because the rest of the pipeline is solid, and drug dev is a long timeline business. 1 or more of your pipeline trials failing to be a winner is not a company-ending issue, because the rest of the pipeline counterbalances those expected failures. This is not a "scam" of any kind. I think a lot of these folks don't know much about the businesses /industries they are critiquing (or possibly are acting in bad faith, but I prefer to assume it's a misunderstanding before jumping right to presumption of malice).
I didn’t read if from others opinions. Perhaps you should check into him yourself too. I loved what he was saying, I just do not trust him because of where his money comes from.
It seems that way but I find it very interesting that he came out with that whole "save Trump" campaign just before the Iowa Caucus. He literally shot himself in the foot so you have to wonder why he did that.
Vivek is not a good guy, just very good at making a persuasive argument. He is a chameleon who changes positions at the drop of a hat. Also in bed with big Pharma.
Amen, I had a double-take at that too. I hope Jeff Childers was just being polite in the spirit of unity (as President Trump was). If he truly believes Haley is one of the good guys then it raises some pretty big questions regarding his judgement. That Haley is a war-mongering neocon and a grifter, is beyond doubt. Her calls for government regulation of who's allowed to say what on social media is another automatic disqualifier.
If someone told me I had to vote for either Biden or Haley at gunpoint, I'd vote for Biden and tell them to then pull the trigger.
Technically, Jeff Childers could be speaking with very intentional specificity. Nikki Haley is not a "guy." Ergo, his opinion that there are no "bad guys" is not an endorsement for Haley. He is silent on the gals... 😉
this is another reason I come here. The written word is very easy to manipulate and I value being able to understand the different meanings people will attribute to the same phrase. I want to continue to be able to hear all viewpoints and then critically assess them.
"There are no bad guys in the race; Republicans enjoy a deep bench. It’s a blessing to have multiple viable, competitive Republican candidates in the race, so that for as long as possible democrats can’t focus their attacks on a single candidate."
Technically he said she is not one of the bad guys (as opposed to being one of the good guys) but that seems like hair splitting.
oh, i took that to mean that Jeff Childers was cheering on having several candidates to keep the libtards busy with whack-a-mole. Not that all those candidates were good guys. Thanks for clarifying.
Agree. And let’s not forget her 100% support for Israel, which is now in its 4th month of genocide against the Palestinian civilian population. Candace Owens is right — Nikki for President of Israel, not USA!!
Lies from the Marxist Left. For a genocide, the ‘forever refugees’ calling themselves Palestinians sure have flourished and vastly increased in numbers and power over the decades.
Who carried out an inhuman massacre on innocent people on October 7, 2023?
Who cries, “Death to the Jews” and calls for their extermination without ceasing?
Thank you WilliamD. When I read that I just about spewed my coffee all over my pooch. Nikki Haley is the Neocon Dream. She will have us at war in a major way within days. She’s being pushed by the dems and neocons for a reason. And then there’s the rumor that she will be Trump’s VP pick. That would be a disaster. Since there’s a real possibility that Trump will be eliminated even if elected the VP position is unusually important this time. I like Vivek but have some lingering fears that he’s a setup. But I’m pretty paranoid these days.
Two letters made me instantly NO Haley! Those being U N definite Red Flag! I never believed this could be true of a full Trump supporter, but one told me they are liking Haley because Trump just has too much trouble around him. Me: Yes because our enemies Hate him!! How do you not get that!?!
Well, Biden already has us involved in wars all over the globe so technically, Haley wouldn't need to start anything. She would simply keep it all going.
No, the neocons are salivating over Iran. They want to Go BIG, taking on Iran and China in addition to Russia. That’s why I’m thinking a ginormous false flag event, a black swan, is in the near future.
Can (Nimrata) Nikki (Randhawa) Haley or Vivek actually be President? Neither is a "natural born citizen" from what I'm reading. But maybe that doesn't matter anymore, since the Constitution is in shreds already - Obama and Kamala aren't NBCs either.
FYI - Nikki's husband's name WAS Bill (William) until Nikki decided he looked more like a Michael (his middle name), so SHE changed his name while they were dating! This is something Nikki herself wrote in her 2012 book, "Can't Isn't an Option".
"You may be wondering how 'Bill' became South Carolina First Gentleman Michael Haley," Haley wrote in her book. "After we started dating, I looked at him one day and said, 'What's your name?'"
"'You know it's Bill,' he said, puzzled."
"'You just don't look like a Bill. What's your whole name?'"
"'William Michael.'"
"From that point on, I started calling him Michael, and all my friends did the same. When he transferred to Clemson his sophomore year, my friends became his friends, and before we knew it, he was universally known as Michael. Everyone who knew him before I did knows him as Bill, and everyone who met him after I did knows him as Michael."
"He looks like a Michael," she wrote."
Talk about a audacious, controlling ... person. Who does that?? Poor Ol' Bill should've ran when he had the chance. 🥴
You should've seen (and heard) my husband's reaction when I asked him what he wouldve done had I decided to start using his middle name while we were dating. 🤣 I definitely wouldn't be about to celebrate 25 yrs together, that's for sure.
CStone, I could only listen to the first minute or two; that's a ridiculous attempt to sound serious. "Let's review his Wikipedia entry and then claim that if he had any association at all with any organization I don't like, we'll call him evil and underhanded." Really. Think better.
If you’d watch the whole thing she mentioned A LOT of questionable associations i was unaware of... WEF, George Soros, Goldman Sachs, companies HE started to wheel and deal with big pharma, investments in China, collabs with PayPal, etc. Sounds like he says one thing but his record shows quite another.
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution directs that all persons born in the United States are U.S. citizens even though their parents may not be citizens ( Haley, Ramaswamy) Likewise, if one of the parents is the U.S. citizen and a child is born in a foreign country the child is entitled to American citizenship ( Obama, mother Ann Dunham was born in Kansas). Ted Cruz was born in Canada and his dad is Cuban but his mom was born in Delaware.
I heard same about Nikki. Guess both of their parents were here legally but had not yet been granted US citizenship. But, as I understand it, there is less certainty around the definition of “natural citizen” with respect to people like Nikki and Vivek, who were born here, than we might think.
Oh, forgot to mention. There is another category, a naturalized citizen, those who were born in a foreign country and who’s parents were not U.S. citizens who later become U.S. citizens through immigration. They can never hold the title of the President of the United States.
A natural born citizen is anyone born on American soil. It doesn’t matter if their parents were immigrants.
“A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents.” From a US government website.
I agree with you 💯 on Nikki Haley! She is a deep state RINO, in bed with the military industrial war complex, weak on immigration and weak on abortion. She’s being propped up by the establishment and would be a disaster as our president. Never Nikki!
I don't know if you can watch this Tucker from last night or if you have to be a paid subscriber...but he calls it on Nikki. Spot on...Deep State Plant
I'm having a hard time believing Trump would use Vivek as VP. Vivek is bold, defiant (in a good way), and extremely self confident (also in a good way) but these are classic Trump traits as well and I'm not sure Vivek would be able to take a quiet back seat. I might be wrong, it's just
my own observation. Vivek might be better suited elsewhere in a Trump administration.
Agree, he has some very detailed plans about dismantling the 3 letter bureaucracy (assuming these are sincere, which is not a given - I have trust issues) so I do see him having some sort of role in the administration, just not sure what it should be. I did watch Trump's speech (Right Side Broadcasting covered it) and he also mentioned a role for Doug Burgum and praised him. I liked him, but some friends have said he is deep state also, although I never got around to vetting that.
the fact that she is a WEF pupil says it all. in one of the meme pages she says she wants everyone to post under their real name. Nikki Haley is not her real name. She is just a puppet. Just like most
Tucker Carlson just released a video of him talking about who N. Haley is and what is a globalist strategy concerning her presidential campaign. Very interesting. Talking about a Trojan Horse!
I think Haley would be awful too. There is something suspicious about her. Her campaign is TOO well funded as far as I can tell. I get stuff in the mail constantly from her and not the others. Ads everywhere. Seems like a plant. Why was Joy B upset that Haley didn’t do better? Maybe that’s who the dems really want.
Beware. Cornered rats become vicious. When this year's Davos pornfest concludes, keep an ear on the pronouncements from the participants, when they arrive home and reassume control of their societies and economies.
Right! Like Trump and Vivek, JFK ran on his own money and could not be controlled by the deep state. After he was betrayed in the Bay of Pigs fiasco (just like Trump was betrayed with the covid shit), JFK swore he was going to tear the CIA down. It was very shortly after that they killed him. Standard operating procedure. Every politician that operated on an independent power base was killed (or attempted to be killed): JFK, ML King, Wallace, Robert Kennedy and JFK Jr (which I believe was an assassination). The deep state cannot abide independent actors.
Yes. And I hope Jeff digs deeper into what the Germans, Dutch, French, Polish and more EU countries are protesting. The WEF, through their Government puppets, are going after their FARMS! The Dutch were on the chopping block not long ago and their protests were massive, to the tune that a new Party was formed and it beat many of the established Party’s and slowed the attack on farms. Those establishment Party’s follow WEF orders in chasing the U.N. Agenda2030 which means to wipe out farms, oil/gas and in the name of ‘sustainability, shove all of us into 15 minute cities aka China. Like Stalin proved, government collective farming starves people. In his case, 7 million people. Fine with WEF, they think the earth is over-populated. I believe Yuval Harari also called humans ‘useless eaters’. 😳
They want to create a command economy perhaps as well. You won’t be able to own as many things as you want. We would rent things delivered by drone (according to them )so only a certain amount can be produced. It’s a dystopia. All in the name of sustainability. I don’t see them personally doing anything sustainable flying jets and buying yachts that use more gasoline per hour than I use per year or they feel they are too important and the rules don’t need to apply to them.
Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, were listening to all these things and were scoffing at Him. And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts, for that which is highly esteemed among men is detestable in the sight of God.”
— Luke 16:14-15 LSB
...There is that wonderful story in the gospel of John where the scribes and Pharisees brought to Jesus a women taken in adultery, and attempting to trap him, asked if the women should be stoned according to the law of Moses.
Christ did not answer straight away, but rather stooped down and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he didn't hear them. The Pharisees persisted, and after a time Christ lifted himself up and answered, "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast the stone at her." And again, stooped down.
For me, this seemingly distracted gesture — the stooping down and writing on the ground — is Christ accessing the God inside himself. Christ then delivers the line that dis-empowers his opponents - and what an extraordinary remark it is - and then stoops again to re-commune with God.
What Christ shows us here, is that the creative imagination has the power to combat all enemies; that we are protected by the flow of our own inspiration. —Nick Cave, The Flesh Made Word
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. —Matthew 23:23-31
This story is a remarkable and moving part of the gospel, but I must interject that Jesus IS God. No accessing necessary. I am not familiar with Nick Cave or the title that I assume is a book, but just this excerpt is not scriptural. There is no spiritual power in our imagination, but in the Christ who dwells within the believer. We are not protected by the “flow of our own inspiration” (whatever that means), but by the power of the Holy Spirit who indwells the believer.
Begging to differ with this statement, “There is no spiritual power in our imagination”.
Our imagination is just another part of the divine expression in each of us. (God made humans in His likeness), thus I believe there is spiritual power in our imagination, driven by His spirit within each of us. What a dull world of humanity we’d be without God-given, individual imagination.
YES!! All of the evil in this world is done by dull, boring, people who insist that everyone else follow the rules they create. When we as believers access our God given creativity, we run circles around evil, by the God given authority that dwells in us!
.,.They are putting M~R`N'A` in "f'0`0,d watch this...., t.co/aBd4h5QMtc
How? Food is genetically modified for sure, but they aren’t dumping random MRNA into the food supply. That would be the most ineffective delivery system to be thought of. MRNA also isn’t magic. It would be be destroyed by our digestive system or excreted long before it was able to “ infect” the body, if consumed by mouth. Also the link you posted is designed to sell me something, not explain your comment.
Well said.
👏🏼 JESUS IS GOD!!! thank you Janice ❤️
and in ALL of us, but you either love it or block it... encourage the God in you or deny it and self-destruct. Is pretty simple. I love 'hello dave' on X headline.... 'your worst sin is that you betrayed yourself for nothing' .... satan got you to believe a lie and you fell for it not knowing you needed to do nothing, you were perfect just as you are. Same as vaxxinating...you could have done NOTHING and been just fine but have now invited this drama into your life b/c you listened to BS instead of your own heart.
Not everyone has God in them and no one is perfect but Christ.
the God shaped hole
how do you think you got it yourself? it wasn't from you
I have believed and repeated from the start of this nightmare! We must live by Faith not Fear.
The irony here is breaking the meter. =) Love you Janice.
Not in scripture, but I've heard it suggested that Jesus was writing out each man's hidden sin for him to see.
When Jesus preached the Gospel, He addressed the stumbling blocks in the way of the person to whom He was preaching. E.g., the rich young ruler, who said, (paraphrasing) "Good teacher, what must I do? I have followed the law from my youth." Jesus asked, "Why do you call me good?" The man should have responded that he called Him good because he is God in human flesh. The man didn't know Him.
The man also felt that his works justified him. Also, when told to sell everything and follow Jesus, the man went away sad, because he couldn't let go of his possessions.
To make a long reply even longer, Jesus knew what was in the hearts of the men who were testing Him by bringing the woman they were accusing. I find it plausible that He would write out their most hidden sins in front of them.
Maybe he was writing "Where is the man?"
I have heard that same opinion.
Whatever Jesus did write or show them, the men had to have realized they too were sinners, or at least felt convicted, as they walked away speechless!
I can only imagine 🙏
Never thought that He may have been writing You shalt not...lie, kill, steal, covet...
The specificity of His accounts is notable when he is sharing the Gospel. Another example is the woman at the well: (Paraphrasing) "You have had 5 husbands, and the man you are with now is not your husband."
I like the idea of Jesus reminding them that God wrote the 10 Commandments by writing them in the dirt with his finger. But there’s another place about a finger writing: the finger that writes MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN on the walls of Belshazzar’s palace. “You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting.” Jesus might have written *those* words in the dirt! Fun to speculate.
This is the central tenet. Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, the incarnate Son of God. He is The Word as Randall points out in both John 1 and Genesis 1.
The operative adjective here is incarnate. Jesus was/is the incarnate Word. Preachers often are not clear about what that means. Incarnate is a Latinate word meaning “in the meat”. A more elegant way of saying the same thing is “in the flesh”. So Jesus was/is the component of the Godhead named the Word, and the Word clothed in human flesh is who Jesus is. The humanity of Jesus was mortal or else he could not have died. Jesus operated all his ministry life as a spirit filled human just as Adam was after his was created. Unlike Adam, Jesus continuously rejected the Satanic lie he could be better off operating independently from God, and thereby qualified himself as the Lamb of God to be sacrificed for Adam’s sin. The scripture says that Jesus was tempted in all points just like we are but as a human being dependent on the unfeeling spirit to lead and empower him. Refer to John 5 where Jesus is recorded clearly stating his complete dependence on the Father.
Janice, I agree & my sufficiency is in God (2 Cor 3:5) the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit.
Just wanted to add, that according to Torah, if a couple was caught in adultery, BOTH man and a woman were supposed to be stoned. Yet- they only brought a woman to be stoned.
Which is why, when Yeshua said “If any on you are without sin, let him cast the first stone.” And one by one they stopped their stone and walked away.
Excellent observation.
Even after walking with him almost 50 years I am still astounded that God, the Creator of All, I AM, became flesh and lived amongst us. Just for him to come and experience our dirt and dust bodies is miraculous. Then he returns to his throne and sends Holy Spirit to live inside of us and speak to our spirits. How amazing and what a great love for his people, his creation, his chosen, is that?!!
Debra, amen to that! Your comments brought to mind a poem I wrote 10 years ago. It’s on my Substack but behind a paywall, so I’ll paste it here:
Which Cost You More?
I ponder the price You paid
For my sin, the Holy One betrayed.
You purchased my release
From bondage and brought me peace.
I urge my mind to fathom
What kind of love would pay sin’s price;
And wonder which cost You more,
Which was the greater sacrifice?
To die for me or to live for me?
Both surely pierced Your soul.
How dark and dreary was that road
From freedom to captivity?
From the Holy of Holies to human birth,
To walk this sin-steeped earth.
By love the curtain was torn:
You lived and died. Which cost You more?
Was Your first breath of air tainted with sin
A hurtful reminder of where You had been?
The darkness of earth a cruel contrast
To Your glorious eternal past?
If I could comprehend how holy You are
I might know why You chose to die.
If I knew the depth of Your love for me
Perhaps I’d understand Calvary.
But more than that, I long to grasp
How You could leave Your throne
And live among us, suffering our sin
Dying daily, feeling alone.
Day after day, were Your steps subdued,
Your heart broken by the burden of sin?
Hurting always but loving enough
To bring forgiveness to its end.
Lord,
To live or die,
Which cost You more?
©️Janice Powell 2013
Beautiful! We get a little taste, a little glimps of his love as a parent.
This may sound like I quibbling but I find many are foggy concerning the biblical statements about the dirty and the humanity of Christ. The operative adjective to consider here is incarnate. The spiritual component of Jesus was/is the Word per John 1. Preachers often are not clear about what that means. Incarnate is a Latinate word meaning “in the meat”. A more elegant way of saying the same thing is “in the flesh”. So Jesus was/is the component of the Godhead named the Word, and the Word clothed in human flesh is who Jesus is. The humanity of Jesus was mortal or else he could not have died. Jesus operated all his ministry life as a spirit filled human just as Adam was after his was created. Unlike Adam, Jesus continuously rejected the Satanic lie he could be better off operating independently from God, and thereby qualified himself as the Lamb of God to be sacrificed for Adam’s sin. The scripture says that Jesus was tempted in all points just like we are but as a human being dependent on the unfeeling spirit to lead and empower him. Refer to John 5 where Jesus is recorded clearly stating his complete dependence on the Father.
Dean ... I like this post.
Also, I like word derivation in particular. Like to know that words like Pope derived from the Greek/πάππας, Romanized as páppas, literally meaning 'father'. I like knowing that the Russian 'паппа' meaning 'pappa' or 'dad' comes from the Greek. I also note that when Christ uses words like 'father', 'son' and 'children', as he habitually always does, the family construct is emphasized. This, I note, is something that the corporatized Marxist state loaths, and so full of contempt and hate attempts to raze such to the ground. I believe that transhumanism is aimed in the same direction. That is, does a cyborg have a mother and father? A brother and/or sister? No, this cannot be, because a cyborg created out of synthetic biology and it processes is no longer strictly speaking genetically human. This maybe a simplification, but one that makes a specific point.
Etymology is helpful to understanding use of words. Glad you enjoy that pursuit as well.
Amen Janice.
Not sure you’re correct about she is not having any limitations here. If he was 100% in his fully God state he would not have had to go and pray all the time. Jesus, elected to have certain limitation’s here, and one of them most likely was the need to do as we do to intentionally seek communion with the father. We have no idea what the Trinity entails. We have no idea what it means to be all God and all man. It’s like like being a particle and a wave. We don’t know when it’s either. I think we need to just let the mystery be the mystery.
Keep your old physical Bibles. Why do I say that? Because what is happening in Xi Jinping’s China could happen anywhere including here. CHINA IS REWRITING THE BIBLE (which hadn’t been released at the time of Michael Youssef’s book) BUT YOUSSEF SHARED PORTIONS THAT HAVE BECOME PUBLIC‼️
According to pastor Michael Youssef, in his book “Is the End Near?”
Quote from pages 57 & 58:
“Now brace yourself for the Communist version of this story (about the adulterous woman that they wanted to stone to death) After the crowd of accusers departs, Jesus tells the woman “I too am a sinner. But if the law could only be executed by men without blemish, the law would be dead.” Then Jesus picks up stones Himself - and He stones the woman to death.” This is blasphemy on every level.”
REWRITING THE BIBLE -
As part of a push to "sinicize" religion, the Chinese Communist Party has embarked on a 10-year project to rewrite the Bible and other religious texts.
The 10-year project to rewrite the Bible, Quran and other sacred texts is all part of Xi Jinping’s quest to make the faithful serve the party rather than God.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/chinese-communist-party-rewriting-bible
Representative Mike Gallagher (R-WI) cited two cases of the CCP rewriting portions of the Bible. The first from the account in the Gospel of John of Jesus telling the woman caught in adultery to “go, and from now on sin no more,” after telling the scribes and Pharisees, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her (John 8:3-11, ESV).” A textbook from a Chinese university appeared in 2020 with the account from the Gospel of John rewritten to end with “Jesus himself stoning the adulterous woman to death,” according to Rep. Gallagher.
The second is a report that CCP authorities in Henan province “forced Protestant churches to replace the Ten Commandments with Xi Jinping quotes,” changing the first commandment from, “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me,” (Exodus 20:3, KJV) to, “Resolutely guard against the infiltration of Western ideology.”
https://www.persecution.org/2023/07/20/chinese-communist-party-government-rewrites-portions-of-the-bible/
The estimated 100 million Christians in China make the eradication of Christianity from China difficult. Chairman Mao tried and was unsuccessful. President Xi prefers a more subtle tactic than Mao’s, a campaign to “Sinicize” religion to make it more compatible with the teachings of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
While China may technically allow Christianity, it only allows a version of Christianity remade in the image of the CCP. These developments, among many others, make this a critical time in the history of religion in China. On Friday, the Vatican officially renewed its controversial deal with Beijing from 2018, making it even more so.
➡️ China To Christians: We're Rewriting The Bible, And You'll Use It Or Else
To me, and although a Sino-rewrite of the Bible is surprising, I take it as good news. Why? Because it is a prior admission from the Chinese state apparatus that there is something 'out there' which is so threatening to Communist state power that it has to tamper with it. And do these deluded Commies really think that people will not see and get what is going on? And how such a brain dead plan as the Commie Bible will only serve to make people hunger and thirst after The Real Deal?
So, and with this, the Commie Chinese state's days are numbered. It may take decades for the Commie Party to self-destruct. But nonetheless, I know that the self-destruction of the Commies in China is already written, even though I at 74 years will never see the day of the coming end.
SORRY… here is the link to the headline of the article in the last line above:
https://www.frc.org/op-eds/china-to-christians-were-rewriting-the-bible-and-youll-use-it-or-else
AMEN‼️
Preach sister!!❤️❤️
The content of the adulteress women starts in John 7 where JESUS goes to the Fesst of Tabernacles. HE says this on the last great day of the feast
On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. Here HE’S saying that HE’S the Fountain of Living Waters. In John 8 it say on the next day which is called Simchat Torah which is Rejoicing in the Torah. Noticed that they said “ The Law says she should be stoned .” A question about the Law when they were celebrating the Law. They’ve rejected JESUS already. HIS response could be tied back to this
O LORD, the hope of Israel, All who forsake You shall be ashamed. “Those who depart from Me Shall be written in the earth, Because they have forsaken the LORD, The fountain of living waters.”
J Vernon McGee (and many other commentators) have suggested that what Jesus wrote on the ground was the sins of her accusers, perhaps even the names of women with whom they had committed adultery.
This is all speculation (as McGee made clear) as the Bible doesn't tell us. But I have to agree with Janice, there was no need to "access" his godhood. Jesus was fully God and fully man, He didn't switch back and forth. I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but it does seem like that's what you are saying.
The dual nature of Christ was settled long ago by the early church fathers, yet it still for some reason causes division nearly two millennia later.
Jeff, this was just an uplifting interpretation. I knew by posting it this would happen but it was worth it because it is just beautiful.
The irony is of course that everyone would put on their scribe suit and dismantle it not knowing the intention behind it.
Hey no problem, some of us have a hair trigger when on "heresy patrol". Not sure I understand the intent of your exercise though, I'd hardly call pointing out potentially false doctrine regarding the essentials of the faith as being a scribe. This isn't hair-splitting legalism here but a foundational principle.
But glad we are agreed on the essentials of the faith.
No exercise. The only intent was to share something beautiful in a dark world growing ever darker.
There's this notion that there is only one proper interpretation of Christ's words and works. I do not buy into this. He will reach out to different people in different ways to accommodate their unique perceptions, they just have to be open to and accepting of Him. When he said this:
"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men"
This is what I believe he was referring to. You may disagree and point to settled evidence that an interpretation is wrong, but that is exactly the point I am making here. If the goal is to follow Him and get others to do the same then barring the way by dogging their personal analysis defeats this purpose.
Jesus who was both the son of God and the son of man spoke to every man. He opened the doors of his kingdom and beckoned to everyone. He showed them the path and asked them to join him there.
Good chatting with you sir, we certainly agree on the essentials . Always a pleasure.
It's important that we seek the most coherent interpretations of doctrine by verifying scripture with scripture, and in the proper context.
He knows the worldview of the original reader, and He knows our worldview, and He knows that we can put ourselves in their past shoes, but they could not put themselves in our future shoes.
The supernatural nature of the Bible is apparent in its coherence across millenia, among many other evidences.
And that coherence brings us to Truth. THE Truth, of which there is one. The Holy Spirit in the believer will lead him to the Truth.
You're right in that He will reach out to different people in different ways. But there is one Truth, Jesus Christ, the Word incarnate, and He does not change to suit men.
Psalm 119:160 (ESV)
"The sum of Your word is truth, and every one of Your righteous rules endures forever."
This is the Psalmist, praying to Yahweh.
I agree that we can each find the Truth when empowered by His Spirit. But I am convinced that this Truth is apparent in it's coherence, and not in my own understanding.
The danger is apparent in the myriad of false gospels being preached today, and more false gospels are forthcoming in the day of deception addressed in 2 Thessalonians 2. It's easy to fashion a false Christ, as we have seen many do. He said, "Believe in the One My Father sent."
I'm not suggesting, at all, that you are fashioning a false Christ. I'm merely pointing out the danger, in an age of deception, if reliance on the understanding of men is taken to an extreme.
Brother, please don't take this as contentious or a rebuke. It's sent with love. We're all working out our salvation in fear and trembling here. Thank you for generating this discussion!
Maranatha!
Exactly, TriTorch.
The ‘way’ in which some read the Word and PERCEIVE the Word is called ‘PRDS’ (pronounced PaRDeS’
Peshat (פְּשָׁט) – "surface" ("straight") or the literal (direct) meaning.[7]
Remez (רֶמֶז) – "hints" or the deep (allegoric: hidden or symbolic) meaning beyond just the literal sense. In the version of the New Zohar, Re'iah.
Derash (דְּרַשׁ) – from Hebrew darash: "inquire" ("seek") – the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences.
Sod (סוֹד) – "secret" ("mystery") or the esoteric/mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation.
And I have found this to be true.
Yeshua perceived the meaning of His Father’s Instruction from the literal meaning to the ‘secret’ or hidden Truths. He taught in such a way that a child could see the basic truth, and the scholar could dig deeper and find the deeper meaning of His teaching. Like the man who found the pearl, went and sold all he had to buy the field so that he would be able to have the ‘pearl of great price’.
Because, let’s face it. I’m not the brightest bulb, so I mostly understand the Word on the most basic level. Yet occasionally He gives me insight to a little deeper understanding. I’m thankful that He did it in such a way that the simple can understand, yet the scholar will not be bored, but get excited to dig further that the simple-minded (like me) would be able to.
Best to you, my friend.
Have any of y’all listened to the Bema Podcast? Just listened to the first 2. Would love to hear y’all’s thoughts
https://www.bemadiscipleship.com/?season=1
I loved this, thanks for posting it. (...going "through it" on the career front right now, and this cheered me greatly.) Have you read any Emmanuel Swedenborg?
I have not read Emmanuel Swedenborg, where should I start?
https://swedenborg.com/
I started with some of the "Off the Left Eye" videos.
The Where to Start video on this home page will likely show enough for you to decide any interest level. 😀
The same inability to grasp the dual nature of Christ is very similar to the problem so many have with the Trinity. Those are difficult concepts for us to wrap our minds around…but become easier when we submit our minds to understanding God’s word, meaning to realize that as a child of God we must have the humility to come as a child, with child-like faith, not being proud in our intellect and ability to reason out the mysteries of God.
I think this is why so many intellectuals reject God or faith in God. They use their reasoning to make sense of everything, and it may work well for them up to a point…the point at which you must unscrew the inscrutable, as I heard a preacher say….
I believe we are all divine expressions of God, experiencing in human form, here on earth. We are not the first or only creations of God. Lucifer was originally also a son of God who rebelled and has never repented and returned to his original status.
We are self-separated from our original relationship with God by our sinful nature, though we have been forgiven by His grace and the sacrifice of His son, in human form, should we choose to acknowledge and accept, along with the Holy Spirit, which is God incarnate; the Trinity.
The disconnect is within each of us until we fully re-member with whom we truly are. We, as humans, were originally created, in the likeness of God. This return to our original status is only accomplished by our denouncing the sin that separates us from God, our faith in His promise, and the acceptance of His gift of Jesus’ sacrifice, in human form, to serve as our Savior.
Be wary of being deceived by Satan.
While much of what you have to say here is true, what you have said about Lucifer is not in keeping with scripture.
Lucifer is a fallen angel. He is not a son of God. The Bible makes it clear in the various passages where angelic beings are mentioned that:
1. They were created by God to be His servants
2. They can be extremely powerful, but their power was granted to them to be used only at God's express command and within His divine will.
3. They think and reason, and interact with God, with us, with each other, with animals, and with all of creation.
4. Lucifer aspired to become something that he was not, to replace God, but like all created beings and despite his tremendous power and previously high position in heaven, he is still finite and limited, and is not capable of overthrowing or displacing God.
5. So; in his rebellion, he was cast down and bound/limited to here, on this earth.
6. Angels were not offered a means to forgiveness once they chose to disobey. There is NO redemption possible for Lucifer.
7. They can appear to humans in human form, but they can also appear in other forms as well (as in Ezekiel's vision). This also has implications re: the Nephilim as well as demonic possession/demonic activity.
8. The angelic forces of good and evil battle it out unseen in the heavenly realm, and their battles often have consequences for us here in the temporal realm, as when a message Daniel sought from God was delayed in reaching him.
9. Satan/Lucifer roams the earth like a raging lion, seeking whom he will devour, however, as in the case of Job, he is NOT PERMITTED to go beyond the strict limits that God has set on his depredations.
10. Satan/Lucifer is the accuser of the brethren.
11. When the new heaven and new earth come to pass, we will be higher than the angels and we will judge them.
12. When this old earth and the old heaven pass away and are thrown into the lake of fire, Satan/Lucifer will also be thrown into the lake of fire along with all fallen angels.
I stand corrected; Satan was originally a creation of God, as are we, and all other beings, which many refer to, perhaps incorrectly, the creations of God as his children; sons and daughters of God. Thank you.
Jeremiah 17:13 “Lord, the hope of Israel, all who abandon You will be put to shame. All who turn away from Me will be written in the dirt, for they have abandoned the Lord, the fountain of living water.”
I often see Christians preaching holiness being called "pharisees." This is done by people who do not understand doctrine.
Pharisees practiced "righteousness" for the sake of self-aggrandizement, and self-justification. They "white-knuckled" it for the sake of puffing themselves up. The leaven of the pharisees.
Christians practicing sound doctrine are obedient when they, through the Spirit, put to death the deeds of the flesh. Through the Spirit.
My failures are all mine, and I often pray that Yahweh will grant me true repentance.
My successes are of the Spirit.
Great points, Tom, and while we’re mentioning doctrine, please let us all pray, as JC requests, for “the Supreme Court to take a bulldozer to the Chevron doctrine”.
Bulldozer to Chevron ! 🙏
Amen. That was the most important part of today's C&C and a fitting note to close on!
Spot on if I understand correctly the meaning of your words. You made me think of Romans 8 with your phraseology.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%201%2CGenesis%201&version=KJV
In the beginning was the Word.....John 1 Genesis 1
The powers of words. Where would we be without it?
Hebrews 4:1 - For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
I also think about the fact that in Genesis, God spoke, and it came into being.
Also, Proverbs 18:21 - The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.
Yes, words are very powerful. It's why leftists strive so hard to control the language.
THIS: "Yes, words are very powerful. It's why leftists strive so hard to control the language."
Well said, CG!
But the Word is...God made flesh.
...or perhaps better put “enveloped” in flesh.
Check this meaning of "word" in Jn 1:1 as logos. Translation leaves a lot of interpretations to be made. IDK
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RIK8eyHXZJw9/
Logos (λόγος) is simply the Greek word for "word". John's Gospel clearly parallels the beginning of Genesis (In the beginning God created ... God said, "let there be ..." vs "In the beginning was the Word... all things were created through Him..."), so it seems intentional that we make connections there. God created by speaking, and the power of His words was such that it caused the universe to exist?
Some scholars say that in the cultural context, it would have been understood that the "Word" here refers to an attribute of a deity's power that is personified (sometimes called a "hypostasis"). God's Word is so powerful that it takes on a partially-independent existence, and now you've got the beginnings of the Trinity...
Thanks good point... Words have power and multiple meanings.
Whether "word" means logos or not, it was just something I saw that made me think. I get the definition from the context but the magnitude that verse is hard to grasp.
I was raised learning about the trinity but I have reservations about man's doctrines. There is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, but there is something off with the trinity doctrine I haven't figured out yet. I could be wrong but it is part of questioning and learning and it does not affect my salvation.
I don't like that they say they are equal for one. I do not think they are equal, but are a part of God. They have different purposes and are controlled by God the Father.
If they were equal, they would know the same things and be able to do the same things, but they can't.
I questioned an excellent pastor and he explained it well but not convincingly. He did admit trinity word is not in the Bible and the doctrine is man made...but Biblical...
I am not going to take a pastor's word for anything unless I see it in the Bible and my spirit is well with it.
Yeah, "trinity" is just a word we came up with to explain what the Bible says about God/Jesus/Spirit. eg, Jesus claims to be the God of Israel and have the power to do things only God can do, but he also prays to the Father so they aren't the same person... and the Spirit comes down on Jesus as a dove so the Spirit is separate too, and so forth. We try to understand it as best we can, and many theologians down through the centuries have had their turn writing about it.
Whether they are precisely "equal" and in what sense (eg you pointed out, they can't be totally identical since they know different things at different times) and how the relationship between them works, well it's probably not something we can really know exactly as humans, since we only know what God has revealed. My take is that God is so far above us, that for all practical purposes we should treat all three persons as equally great anyway, and if we're not sure about anything, then just stick to the parts of the Bible that are more clear. We're called to follow our Lord, not to correctly understand every fact about His being.
Logos correct?
I just found it interesting. It's hard to imagine what we do not know.
If Logos means the principle governing the cosmos then it makes better sense and a deeper meaning for an omnipotent God - Creator.
In the beginning was the Word... and the word was God...
God is (the) Logos according to this definition of logos.
Since words in language can have many meanings we determine meaning by context.
After reading comments from Janice and Tritorch, I cannot unsee the group of six devotees of destruction sitting around that MSNBC table, seemingly unfamiliar with Jesus’ teachings.
I don't often comment on people's understanding of scripture because I enjoy learning what folks think. Once I heard a teacher wonder if Jesus was perhaps writing out the sins of the people in the crowd, generally speaking like "theft"..."lies"...etc and when the crowd read the sin, they each individually turned away.
It remains the same today: none of us are sinless.
I remember a sermon on these verses, which cast several different ideas of the significance and symbolism of Christ using his finger to write in the dirt. The 10 Commandments were written by God’s finger in stone. Christ is God and His finger once again possibly wrote a commandment. Supposedly the actual original language of Christ’s words were not “He who is without sin, cast the first stone,” but, “He who is without THIS sin, cast the first stone.” Christ knew the hearts of these Pharisees. They were not just guilty of sin, as we all are, they were guilty of adultery. Did Christ simply rewrite the commandment not to commit adultery in the dirt at His feet? Did he perhaps use his finger once again to write the commandment in ‘stone’ for them to see? I can’t wait to get to heaven and get that question answered. Nevertheless the Pharisees knew they were guilty and walked away. In all things I want the light of truth to shine: let our political leaders have their deeds, good and bad, shown in truth, let our medical leaders and policy leaders and military leaders and corporate leaders and religious leaders, and so on and so forth have their deeds, good and bad, shown in truth! Let the light of truth shine and expose the good and the bad, so we can all walk in the light of truth!!!
Did he perhaps write from the Prophets, where God calls out the people of Israel for figuratively committing adultery against him by chasing after other gods? And/or a reference to things that these Pharisees were chasing after instead of God? Interesting thought.
Wow! Good post!!!
I second what Janice - Words Beyond Me had to say about this, but I also want to point out that what Jesus was writing in the dust had to be something pretty powerful. Some people have speculated that it was the Ten Commandments, which would make sense in this context with "he that is without sin, let him cast the first stone."
They would know, reading what He wrote in the dust at their feet that they had a serious problem.
Phunny how Pharisee and Pharma begin with letter phi.
"If you get 'your' jab, then you're a good person." It's a gospel of works.
It's actually more apropos that Pharma is derived from the ancient Greek word, Pharmakeia, which means sorcery.
It was just a joke. I did read Homeric Greek (2 years) in graduate school.
I mean... it's kinda like how Satan and Science both begin with 'S'? But God and Gluttony both begin with 'G'...
(By which I mean, it's only meaningful if you already have a reason to associate the two words for some reason.)
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”And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?” And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!“
Mark 7:5-9 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/mrk.7.5-9.ESV
The Jewish leaders were always seeking power over the people, not obedience to God. Their constant unyielding rules were just stumbling blocks for the people seeking God. We still have leaders in the churches doing this. Repent and be baptized is a must do, as Jesus was our example for this. Most of the other rules are a power play.
Janice, just came across Luke 16:14-15 myself and thought, nothing has changed since then. The same group of scoffers and lovers of money control the vast majority of people now.
I am happy to be "low."
Philippians 2:3-4 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.
Good reminder of how the spirit will lead us to operate in this life.
This is how we know. Read the Good book.
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Trump 2024! Per NavyVet in Epoch Times: "FJB and the 2000 Mules he rode in on!"
Ha! Love that! 😆😁
Good one!!
Best line ever!
Lol, that makes a good meme, thanks for the inspiration:
https://patrick.net/post/1344917/2022-05-02-2000-mules?start=168#comment-2026461
Careful, that could get you sent to jail.
The more of us that speak up, the safer we all are.
Everyone needs to watch Tucker Carlson's take https://x.com/tuckercarlson/status/1747274232093110614?s=46&t=IIM6eM54YEstfXgfgp3Ibg
You are absolutely correct. Tucker explains who and what Nikki Haley is. Don't be fooled!
Iowa Final Analysis
No GOP candidate has ever won the Iowa Caucus by more than 12 points. Trump just won’t it by 30 with 95% reporting.
This HISTORIC landslide is a catastrophic indicator for DeSantis, Haley, and Vivek supporters, as well as the Dems.
Trump LOST Iowa in 2016 to Ted Cruz, 27.6% to 24.3%. Trump just secured 51% of the vote by himself in 2024. That’s a seismic shift. Even if the anti-Trumpers were to go all-in on one candidate, they STILL couldn’t beat Trump.
Trump’s base are energized and just made an emphatic statement to kick off election season. The media are in a full-blown panic because they know this performance indicates their propaganda is not working. Trump is more popular than ever.
https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/iowa-final-analysis
I hate to disagree with Jeff, but Nikki Haley is not one of the good guys. A win for her would be a defeat for just about everything conservatives hold dear. Actually, there are only three good guys: Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy. Pence may have been the worst of the bad guys, but not by much.
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Nikki is the worst possible type of candidate — a warmongering neocon RINO, who will say literally anything her donors tell her to. And her donors are the uniparty swamp crocodiles.
Nikki is just the Republican's Hilary Clinton. A very, very bad and dangerous candidate. Any hope of reform or change would die instantly, if she was elected. [Which is why so many big donors, including Democratic donors, want her.]
On the flip side, Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy are all good men, just of different flavours / personal styles. It's a shame Vivek did not beat out Hayley — I would have liked to see him stay in the race, and keep crow-barring the Overton Window open. But he ran a clean, honest campaign, and handled the defeat very gracefully and pragmatically. I hope he sticks around in politics, he is the future of the R party, imo.
RamaSWAMPY is a top level Big pHARMA guy. I refuse to believe anyone there is a “good guy” He is still making money off the jabbs from what I’ve read.
Ok, well I just explained in great detail that this is not correct.
But you're free to believe it, of course. That's up to you.
I don't really understand this puritanical end of the 'freedom' movement who now seem to be implying that *all medicine* is evil, and so is anyone who ever went near the sector. That is clearly a ridiculous position.
Lots of medical products are unnecessary and harmful, without a doubt. The sector is also one of the most corrupt out there, especially at the top, and in the parts that dovetail with State research & defence.
Having said that, we obviously need hospitals. And doctors. And safe medicines like antibiotics, etc. These things are not evil, they are necessary and good. I think the focus should be on instituting radical transparency so we can root out the bad (rather than burning down the entire edifice and then realising we don't have any medicines to help the sick). Just my two cents.
I have loved ones walking around today who simply wouldn't be here if not for the various pharmaceuticals they continue to ingest. I wouldn't want to take what they take, but I prefer they are here with me, and not dead. The evil is in the lying and the fake journal reports. There's a lot about the bureaucratic agencies and big pharma and big government that needs to be cleaned up.
Although what you say is true, Vivek was never Big Pharma. He started and sold an alternative BioTech company and has since moved on to an anti-ESG company.
And I have loved ones who are not here because of medical treatment, so there is always that too.
Yes, I completely agree PJ.
Thank you for your sensible and in depth analysis. Too many people want perfect even though they themselves are not nor can anyone be. So that’s completely unrealistic and counterproductive.
Is this your great detail? If it isn’t than I missed it. On the flip side, Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy are all good men, just of different flavours / personal styles. It's a shame Vivek did not beat out Hayley — I would have liked to see him stay in the race, and keep crow-barring the Overton Window open. But he ran a clean, honest campaign, and handled the defeat very gracefully and pragmatically.
Maybe you should check out the above video someone shared and follow Viveks past.
This comment, on the same thread, is where I explained in detail (among others, if you surf down).
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/snow-storm-tuesday-january-16-2024?r=1e0eaz&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=47420259
Vivek is also sponsored by BIG money from Epstein associates. We know only the tip of that Epstein iceberg. What occurred on that island probably would put Molech to shame.
You need to be more specific if you're going to make an accusation like that.
What do you mean by "he is sponsored by BIG money from Epstein associates"?
I keep hearing people say this stuff, and then I go deep diving looking for any evidence of such, and there is none.
I can't figure out how to paste in a screenshot, but FOX NEWS reported: Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein associate funneled large donations to Vivek Ramaswamy, several Dems....on January 5, 2024. It was reported by Joe Schoffstall and Cameron Cawthorne. I found this on Telegram posted by Joe Rogan.
Trump supporter here. I liked Vivek too- I do think he is the smartest guy in the race, HOWEVER, I watched this video about his pharma connections and now I’m a bit wary
https://twitter.com/FinanceLancelot/status/1696735857690939796
Respectfully, this keyboard warrior is not understanding how a development pipeline works.
Let me explain:
The business of developing medicines involves having multiple products in your "pipeline", meaning that you are researching, developing and trialing a range of medicines. This is basic risk management — many of the drugs will fail, only a few will ever be successful, so you must have a healthy pipeline in order to stay afloat.
Not all the products will be viable, but when you hit on one that is, it could become hugely valuable, very fast. For financial and legal prudence, the big firms tend to 'wrap' each drug dev line into a dedicated subsidiary structure. That way, if one drug fails, they just wind down that one sub-company (that existed as a 'wrapper' for that one enterprise). This is also done to keep general IP / assets away from legal suits against a specific product.
It's industry standard practice is what I'm saying, and it's not nefarious behaviour, it's what large (particularly publicly traded) companies do — it's a huge company, but actually it's a series of small companies doing this and that, living under one umbrella / corporate family.
Axovant is the sub-company created to pursue trials of a specific Alzheimer’s drug. That drug was not successful. Many of the drugs they develop are not / will not be successful.
Investors still continue to invest because the rest of the pipeline is solid, and drug dev is a long timeline business. 1 or more of your pipeline trials failing to be a winner is not a company-ending issue, because the rest of the pipeline counterbalances those expected failures. This is not a "scam" of any kind. I think a lot of these folks don't know much about the businesses /industries they are critiquing (or possibly are acting in bad faith, but I prefer to assume it's a misunderstanding before jumping right to presumption of malice).
You are so wrong. How can anyone simply believe “what I read”, after all we know today? Shame.
I didn’t read if from others opinions. Perhaps you should check into him yourself too. I loved what he was saying, I just do not trust him because of where his money comes from.
It seems that way but I find it very interesting that he came out with that whole "save Trump" campaign just before the Iowa Caucus. He literally shot himself in the foot so you have to wonder why he did that.
That was interesting. He is interesting for sure.
Agree, and Haley (3rd) also said two-person race …
I’m so tired of DUMB PEOPLE!!!!!
He is going to be great at " banging the drum " for Trump. Let's roll !
Vivek is not a good guy, just very good at making a persuasive argument. He is a chameleon who changes positions at the drop of a hat. Also in bed with big Pharma.
And big tech. Check out his company Datavant that he started during the pandemic.
agreed. I think I might like a trump-vivek page
Totally agree. ‼️‼️
Couldn't agree more!
I read there were democrats who went in, changed their party to vote for Haley. It is another Democrat way of cheating.
Amen, I had a double-take at that too. I hope Jeff Childers was just being polite in the spirit of unity (as President Trump was). If he truly believes Haley is one of the good guys then it raises some pretty big questions regarding his judgement. That Haley is a war-mongering neocon and a grifter, is beyond doubt. Her calls for government regulation of who's allowed to say what on social media is another automatic disqualifier.
If someone told me I had to vote for either Biden or Haley at gunpoint, I'd vote for Biden and tell them to then pull the trigger.
My take was that Haley didn't have anything the Left would attack her about...mostly because she's a warmongering deep state stooge just like them.
From Rand Paul. https://nevernikki.net/
Where in this article did Jeff Childers say Haley was one of the good guys????
I'm sorry if I am missing something here??
Technically, Jeff Childers could be speaking with very intentional specificity. Nikki Haley is not a "guy." Ergo, his opinion that there are no "bad guys" is not an endorsement for Haley. He is silent on the gals... 😉
Good point! He is a lawyer after all, I should have spotted that loophole.
this is another reason I come here. The written word is very easy to manipulate and I value being able to understand the different meanings people will attribute to the same phrase. I want to continue to be able to hear all viewpoints and then critically assess them.
🤭 Good point! After, all, words have meaning.
With "The Word" having the final word.
So. :)
End of the first section:
"There are no bad guys in the race; Republicans enjoy a deep bench. It’s a blessing to have multiple viable, competitive Republican candidates in the race, so that for as long as possible democrats can’t focus their attacks on a single candidate."
Technically he said she is not one of the bad guys (as opposed to being one of the good guys) but that seems like hair splitting.
oh, i took that to mean that Jeff Childers was cheering on having several candidates to keep the libtards busy with whack-a-mole. Not that all those candidates were good guys. Thanks for clarifying.
🤭 Good point! After, all, words have meaning.
There were stories out in recent days disclosing her funding by Dem big money guys.
I'd pull the trigger first.
Lol. So funny.
Agree. And let’s not forget her 100% support for Israel, which is now in its 4th month of genocide against the Palestinian civilian population. Candace Owens is right — Nikki for President of Israel, not USA!!
Lies from the Marxist Left. For a genocide, the ‘forever refugees’ calling themselves Palestinians sure have flourished and vastly increased in numbers and power over the decades.
Who carried out an inhuman massacre on innocent people on October 7, 2023?
Who cries, “Death to the Jews” and calls for their extermination without ceasing?
https://www.israelunwired.com/palestine-is-the-nazi-weapon-that-seeks-to-finish-hitlers-final-solution/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=%22Palestine%22+Is+The+Nazi+Weapon+That+Seeks+To+Finish+Hitler+s+Final+Solution&utm_campaign=%22Palestine%22+Is+The+Nazi+Weapon+That+Seeks+To+Finish+Hitler+s+Final+Solution
https://youtu.be/KP-CRXROorw
You think Hitler should have been allowed to finish the job. We see you.
I'm a Never Nikki gal
As I saw online... if Israel is truly attempting to commit genocide, they sure aren't very good at it. :/
Thank you WilliamD. When I read that I just about spewed my coffee all over my pooch. Nikki Haley is the Neocon Dream. She will have us at war in a major way within days. She’s being pushed by the dems and neocons for a reason. And then there’s the rumor that she will be Trump’s VP pick. That would be a disaster. Since there’s a real possibility that Trump will be eliminated even if elected the VP position is unusually important this time. I like Vivek but have some lingering fears that he’s a setup. But I’m pretty paranoid these days.
Two letters made me instantly NO Haley! Those being U N definite Red Flag! I never believed this could be true of a full Trump supporter, but one told me they are liking Haley because Trump just has too much trouble around him. Me: Yes because our enemies Hate him!! How do you not get that!?!
Well, Biden already has us involved in wars all over the globe so technically, Haley wouldn't need to start anything. She would simply keep it all going.
No, the neocons are salivating over Iran. They want to Go BIG, taking on Iran and China in addition to Russia. That’s why I’m thinking a ginormous false flag event, a black swan, is in the near future.
I believe this, too.
Can (Nimrata) Nikki (Randhawa) Haley or Vivek actually be President? Neither is a "natural born citizen" from what I'm reading. But maybe that doesn't matter anymore, since the Constitution is in shreds already - Obama and Kamala aren't NBCs either.
FYI - Nikki's husband's name WAS Bill (William) until Nikki decided he looked more like a Michael (his middle name), so SHE changed his name while they were dating! This is something Nikki herself wrote in her 2012 book, "Can't Isn't an Option".
"You may be wondering how 'Bill' became South Carolina First Gentleman Michael Haley," Haley wrote in her book. "After we started dating, I looked at him one day and said, 'What's your name?'"
"'You know it's Bill,' he said, puzzled."
"'You just don't look like a Bill. What's your whole name?'"
"'William Michael.'"
"From that point on, I started calling him Michael, and all my friends did the same. When he transferred to Clemson his sophomore year, my friends became his friends, and before we knew it, he was universally known as Michael. Everyone who knew him before I did knows him as Bill, and everyone who met him after I did knows him as Michael."
"He looks like a Michael," she wrote."
Talk about a audacious, controlling ... person. Who does that?? Poor Ol' Bill should've ran when he had the chance. 🥴
You should've seen (and heard) my husband's reaction when I asked him what he wouldve done had I decided to start using his middle name while we were dating. 🤣 I definitely wouldn't be about to celebrate 25 yrs together, that's for sure.
Please watch the short, insightful video link provided by CSpne here. Really eye-opening! You’re right to have fears about Vivek.
Paranoid with good reason, I'd say.
Ramaswamy is NOT. a good guy.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/WAFtTt6xA8Lx3CmF/?mibextid=3iQHzw
CStone, I could only listen to the first minute or two; that's a ridiculous attempt to sound serious. "Let's review his Wikipedia entry and then claim that if he had any association at all with any organization I don't like, we'll call him evil and underhanded." Really. Think better.
If you’d watch the whole thing she mentioned A LOT of questionable associations i was unaware of... WEF, George Soros, Goldman Sachs, companies HE started to wheel and deal with big pharma, investments in China, collabs with PayPal, etc. Sounds like he says one thing but his record shows quite another.
I've already investigated several of those, and I expect the quality of her 'analysis' remains the same.
I agree. I fear he is a Trojan horse. And I’m concerned that Trump may choose him as vp.
He is not a natural born citizen so cannot be President. Although Kenyan born Obama was not either. I guess I’m a purist and like my Constitution.
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution directs that all persons born in the United States are U.S. citizens even though their parents may not be citizens ( Haley, Ramaswamy) Likewise, if one of the parents is the U.S. citizen and a child is born in a foreign country the child is entitled to American citizenship ( Obama, mother Ann Dunham was born in Kansas). Ted Cruz was born in Canada and his dad is Cuban but his mom was born in Delaware.
There's a difference between a citizen of immigrant parents and a natural born citizen, eligible to hold the office of President and Vice President.
I heard same about Nikki. Guess both of their parents were here legally but had not yet been granted US citizenship. But, as I understand it, there is less certainty around the definition of “natural citizen” with respect to people like Nikki and Vivek, who were born here, than we might think.
Oh, forgot to mention. There is another category, a naturalized citizen, those who were born in a foreign country and who’s parents were not U.S. citizens who later become U.S. citizens through immigration. They can never hold the title of the President of the United States.
A natural born citizen is anyone born on American soil. It doesn’t matter if their parents were immigrants.
“A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., through place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e. through descent from his/her parents.” From a US government website.
The citizenship clause of the 14th amendment
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S1-1-1/ALDE_00000811/#:~:text=Fourteenth%20Amendment%2C%20Section%201%3A,the%20State%20wherein%20they%20reside.
This is actually QUITE good and a real eye opener into Vivek's TRUE agenda. They're known by who owns them!
This is good research, enough to make one reconsider favouring whoever appears to be an opportunist. Seems like this is Vivek.
Thank you, CStone, for this link.
Yes, by all means, let’s hear what Wikipedia has to say about Ramaswamy...(and we all know about those Jesuits, don’t we)
C’mon man!
This is all old news and is easily debunked through actual investigation.
Please ensure that this link gets to Trump on Truth Social.
Excellent!!
I agree with you 💯 on Nikki Haley! She is a deep state RINO, in bed with the military industrial war complex, weak on immigration and weak on abortion. She’s being propped up by the establishment and would be a disaster as our president. Never Nikki!
I don't know if you can watch this Tucker from last night or if you have to be a paid subscriber...but he calls it on Nikki. Spot on...Deep State Plant
https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-the-iowa-results/
Thank you for sharing; Tucker nailed it.
I'm having a hard time believing Trump would use Vivek as VP. Vivek is bold, defiant (in a good way), and extremely self confident (also in a good way) but these are classic Trump traits as well and I'm not sure Vivek would be able to take a quiet back seat. I might be wrong, it's just
my own observation. Vivek might be better suited elsewhere in a Trump administration.
Agree, he has some very detailed plans about dismantling the 3 letter bureaucracy (assuming these are sincere, which is not a given - I have trust issues) so I do see him having some sort of role in the administration, just not sure what it should be. I did watch Trump's speech (Right Side Broadcasting covered it) and he also mentioned a role for Doug Burgum and praised him. I liked him, but some friends have said he is deep state also, although I never got around to vetting that.
Truth... she is a war monger.
Haley is a snake charmer
I agree, especially hearing that she is being funded by some Democratic donors.
She is the Dem's candidate .... neither the resident nor his sidekick Kammy are viable!
the fact that she is a WEF pupil says it all. in one of the meme pages she says she wants everyone to post under their real name. Nikki Haley is not her real name. She is just a puppet. Just like most
Tucker Carlson just released a video of him talking about who N. Haley is and what is a globalist strategy concerning her presidential campaign. Very interesting. Talking about a Trojan Horse!
I think Haley would be awful too. There is something suspicious about her. Her campaign is TOO well funded as far as I can tell. I get stuff in the mail constantly from her and not the others. Ads everywhere. Seems like a plant. Why was Joy B upset that Haley didn’t do better? Maybe that’s who the dems really want.
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So glad you brought that up!
“If Trump is Elected, it is Likely to be the Kind of Like the Death Blow to What Remains of the Global Order.”- WEF Adviser Yuval Noah Harari.
https://expose-news.com/2024/01/15/if-trump-is-elected-it-is-likely-to-be-the-kind-of-like-the-death-blow-to-what-remains-of-the-global-order-wef-adviser-yuval-noah-harari/
Beware. Cornered rats become vicious. When this year's Davos pornfest concludes, keep an ear on the pronouncements from the participants, when they arrive home and reassume control of their societies and economies.
Spot on! That is exactly my worry. There is nothing these narcissistic sociopaths will not do to stay in power.
Remember what happened to JFK, when he dared stray off their plantation.
Right! Like Trump and Vivek, JFK ran on his own money and could not be controlled by the deep state. After he was betrayed in the Bay of Pigs fiasco (just like Trump was betrayed with the covid shit), JFK swore he was going to tear the CIA down. It was very shortly after that they killed him. Standard operating procedure. Every politician that operated on an independent power base was killed (or attempted to be killed): JFK, ML King, Wallace, Robert Kennedy and JFK Jr (which I believe was an assassination). The deep state cannot abide independent actors.
"One such as him must never rise again" ....
Yes. And I hope Jeff digs deeper into what the Germans, Dutch, French, Polish and more EU countries are protesting. The WEF, through their Government puppets, are going after their FARMS! The Dutch were on the chopping block not long ago and their protests were massive, to the tune that a new Party was formed and it beat many of the established Party’s and slowed the attack on farms. Those establishment Party’s follow WEF orders in chasing the U.N. Agenda2030 which means to wipe out farms, oil/gas and in the name of ‘sustainability, shove all of us into 15 minute cities aka China. Like Stalin proved, government collective farming starves people. In his case, 7 million people. Fine with WEF, they think the earth is over-populated. I believe Yuval Harari also called humans ‘useless eaters’. 😳
They want to create a command economy perhaps as well. You won’t be able to own as many things as you want. We would rent things delivered by drone (according to them )so only a certain amount can be produced. It’s a dystopia. All in the name of sustainability. I don’t see them personally doing anything sustainable flying jets and buying yachts that use more gasoline per hour than I use per year or they feel they are too important and the rules don’t need to apply to them.
True that. Sustainability = population reduction
One can only hope for the death of the New World One Global Order. But Hariri only has Satans ear, so who knows what it means?
I think it’s strange that we have a Trump and a Noah! Scripture says the end times will be like the days of Noah, and then the Trump-ets will blow!!
You literally gave me chills!! WOW 💥
That also surprised me. His master is Klaus Schwab. What is he saying? There is little remaining of the "global order"?