thank you for your everyday humor and facts!! I work for Florida Blue (BCBS of Florida) and surprisingly my religious exemption was approved, albeit it was done towards the end of the deadline to submit one. I have a feeling they saw the writing on the wall and the illegalities of trying to force it on employees. I was willing to walk aw…
thank you for your everyday humor and facts!! I work for Florida Blue (BCBS of Florida) and surprisingly my religious exemption was approved, albeit it was done towards the end of the deadline to submit one. I have a feeling they saw the writing on the wall and the illegalities of trying to force it on employees. I was willing to walk away from my pension. But so many of my friends were afraid to not comply because they had families to take care of. It is disgusting that any employer tried to play "God" with so many lives. I am waiting to see what litigation comes from this.
“I was willing to walk away from my pension” Balls of steel 💪🏻 I stand and applaud you! It’s great you didn’t have to, but knowing you would’ve says it all. I know others who did walk away from their livelihoods and pensions. Those are the heros! Stand for what is right even if it costs you everything! If we had a nation of people who understood those values - this scamdemic never would’ve got off the ground.
was getting people to quit & "walk away from their pensions" part of the jab push? why? because pensions in many companies are underfunded, upside-down, & an albatross around the company necks?
Probably. But were they really smart enough to think people would actually walk away from those pensions? Doubtful. It just worked out in their favor once again. But better to walk away than be dead. So.
And now many of those who caved will not be collecting their pensions due to premature death via clot shot or unable to enjoy them due to vaxx injuries and disabilities. Such an awful outcome either way.
I finally saw an acquaintance of mine after several weeks. She'd been injured by the J&J shot and continues to have cascading health effects since 2021 - This poor woman - sudden onset diabetes, heart arhythmia , never ending sinus infections, sudden case of shingles out of the blue AND was just diagnosed with MS. This is so incredibly criminal. I can't wait for the litigation to begin. These injured and their families deserve justice.
A couple told us we were smart for not getting vaxxed. While it is gratifying to have that acknowledged, we would rather it never have been the case at all. 😮💨
Pamela--Ditto for me too. For most I think they are trying to run as fast as they can lest the truth of the crime done to them is realized. I don't me dead or injured--just the deception, lies which made it so easy to succumb to the 24/7 fear mongering.
To the companies with under funded pensions, it makes no difference to the bottom line whether the employee walks away - with no pension - or dies - no pension.
Excellent Point! Getting rid of that unfunded liability!
I am glad for Sunnydaze and for the good out come. HOWEVER, and as an aside, allowing the government and/or its proxies to be the god-like deciders of who gets and exemption and who does not IS NOT the God-given autonomy of Liberty. It is the chains of an evil system disguised Liberty ... and furthermore leaves the tyrants totally in charge.
That the Holy God-state gets to give out passes for or against is itself infringing. It the same distinction made between permitting and constitutional carry ... but as applied to the power grab of Health Tyranny. In essence, either we are a sovereign people possessed of property (ourselves) ... or we are property (of the state).
Absolutely correct. The faulty concept of someone “granting a religious exemption” to another person makes no sense. Who are they to judge someone else. The whole scheme smacks of serfdom.
Faulty concept ... exactly! Because with 'exemptions' they the authority figures still remain boots on the ground control agents. And zip for you.
You made me think? Serf? Slave? Or something far more nefarious for which we either don't have a word for, or else one just doesn't come to mind. Serfs ... and even slaves, for example, usually (but not always) have some free time, maybe some basic legal rights. But this Health Terrorism thing? It has the ring of abnegation about it. It's like a thief in the night stealthily invades one's domain to steal one's life, the totality of one's being. In another word, this whole demonic capper feels like an assassination.
I believe it was "Barbara" who was willing to walk away from her pension, but didn't have to in the end. Sunnydaze said she had balls of steel! I would have to agree. I know exactly how those companies manipulated people to get the coof jab, and it was all highly illegal in the world of "Human Resources". So, they force, coerce and shame people into getting jabbed because "they" get money for having a 100% jabbed crew! It is a story that hasn't come out yet, but it is not only the medical complex that got "incentives". Dirty turtles all the way down to where it smells like sulfur.
the government pushed this on everyone at a LOSS. Pharma already got their money and the shots were free, ergo the admin LOST money by pushing this. We know there was no actual concern for public health as the crap didn't stop transmission, so this truly was just a big, sadistic experiment.
we need all that info!! I know Raytheon was richly rewarded with the Ukraine war and all the $$'s in weapons sales, but there has to be so much more under the table.
evidently Nuremberg was for nought, as nobody cares to enforce it. But we are still reminded of the genocide that spurred its creation. What will history do with the present genocide?
Well then ... and just thinking is over, I think Nuremberg might just be another psy-opt posturing, a whole nuther agenda. Call me cynical, but that what I think. And if any one dared to question the seedier side of WW II and what went on, especially in the European Theater, such people got a lot of grief dished out in arrests, court time and jail time. Just ask David Irving, historian.
I had a client once whose Dad was a prosecutor at Nuremburg.
It was all a psy=op. The main perpetrators were not tried. Rather they were brought here under Operation Paperclip. Even the infamous Dr. Ishii who vivisectioned Chinese civilians AND US soldiers, got a free pass, fabulous jobs and lived out their lives, working for NASA, and other US gov agencies.
If I were to go out on the street and ask people if they knew what Operation Paperclip was, it is just my guesstimate that 90% would have no clue about it. Ok...maybe 75%. I don't know. Maybe my interaction with people has just been so tainted as of late!
When I first found out about Paperclip several years ago, I felt sick to my stomach. How could our government fail to bring justice in the name of Profit??? But yes, they can and do... One day, God WILL bring justice, and it will be JUST!!!
Daverkb- Exactly. Per law, religious exemptions are not subject to approval or denial, or even review. Not that anyone follows our country’s laws anymore. My daughter, who is a registered nurse, working in the hospital, got her religious exemption approved, and I of course am glad of that. However, I am very angry that it was subject to approval. I think they only approved it because they were losing so many staff.
My daughter who is a nurse also got her religious exemption approved, however, bc most of other staff and her boyfriend's family were jabbed, she is now battling some unknown medical maladies. She's had severe headaches for the last 18 months, along with erratic heart rates. Doctors have not been able to properly diagnose. They first thought it was a cerebral fluid leak, or positional tachycardia, but my feeling is she's got venom in her from all the shedding people around her at the onset.
Shedding is definitely a thing. I had migraines and visual oddities after I returned home from a month of visiting my grandsons, during which time she got “fully vaxxed”. We slept in separate rooms until I moved out 6 weeks later, but I definitely had odd effects. Still have odd heart palpitations. But most everyone here in Cali is vaxxed, so I’m surrounded.
Hum? Deep Thinking? Don't let that out. Especially to De Wife. She wouldn't think that possible. After all, I'm only a husband! And especially so if I manage to penetrate that invisible screen ... and gain the kitchen ... and then commence cooking up something ... like rubber eggs and saucisse brûlée.
But thanks! I felt brilliant there for a micro-second!
Ha! Ha! Ha! De Wife? She'd never go that far. And DEEP? That's always Mr. Miscreant, the Incorrible Moi-Meme, when he's managed to get himself into some kind of perplexity ... ya know, of the DEEP Doo-Doo variety! BUT ... so far clear sailing today on sunny blue sky!
Sounds like you've been married for some time, Dave - you know your "place"--LOL!! Well...take the compliment from this 76 year old chickie - it was meant sincerely!
Yes, Sharon ... and I am 74 and married ... for along time. Of course, I could have run, but the allure was just too overpowering!
Place holder! I've got it. I think. Mathematically, a place holder is a zero. Or 'knowing my place' could mean either in my room, or my basement Wonderland. Or is could mean Space Alien. I've heard something like this from De Wife a few times even though I don't have the clue as to was she was talking about. Regarding my room. It somehow never made it into any real estate photo shoot listings of houses ... for some reason? I don't know why. But I noticed that, even though it's the best room in the whole house.
P. S. One good thing. I never had to sleep in the shed. I may have had a few 'close calls' though. But that was a long time ago ... and mercifully, I forgot why. And I may not be smart or clever, but at least I am smart enough not to make inquiries!
I’m with you on the exemptions. It was shameful watching these companies decide who got one or if they got one granted to them as if they were the peasants of society. Shame on those companies. They took it upon themselves to decide if someone was “religious” enough to get an exemption. Pppfffttt. Turned my stomach.
And yes, turning the decision over to the corporations is an unstated use of the Public/Private partnership (government and business) which is plain out Fascism and the eclipse of ownership by any meaningful definition.
Also, the whole whimsical Exemption Lottery stinks of the beggar bowl.
I suspect it was simply a bonus---decreasing by death the number of benefit recipients would be the intention; experiencing also a recipient decrease by choice must have been quite unexpected. After all, who could imagine that any American would refuse this kindly, for-your-health intervention?
I did have to walk away from my job of almost 25 years and part of my pension. Fortunately, I don’t lose my complete pension, it just won’t be what it would’ve been had I been able to stay. God has continued to guide me in this path, and I am fortunate to have found a new job, that is paying me better and is considerably less stressful to me. Faith over Fear.🙏
Agree. My husband and I now know of several people who have suffered vaxx injuries. Some admit it is the vaxx. Some have not. But my husband said to me that is so good not to have to worry about it and each other as we are unvaxxed. He said "Could you imagine it wondering?" And we don't worry about our children and extended family as we are all unvaxxed. Much better than any pension or benefit.
I worry about my daughter, daughter-in-law and granddaughter all the time, and nieces and nephews as well. I've already lost three close family members to the jabs. Most of my family is fully brainwashed, still.
I almost cried when 3 of my children got vaxxed. I bought them some protocols to mitigate damage but I worry every time one of them gets sick. I told them what was going on with the shot and how unsafe it was, but they chose to believe every one else on the planet.😔
So many of us tried to warn our families only to be dismissed as crazy. It’s painful when their mothers, who love them more than anyone else in the world, who would lay down their life for their kids, are dismissed for people who wouldn’t sacrifice anything for them. I expect our efforts will be reflected upon as the deep love and wisdom they are once we are gone and history reveals more to those we leave behind. That will have to be enough.
Sorry, just found your reply. I posted it under the original comment. I’ll look up some things and see if I can find out more. I know McCullough recommends nattokinase in addition to the other things listed. Good luck.
Absolutely!! That was my thinking as well. I am healthy and take care of myself and we eat right, so any pain that we suffer or problem that we have is easily deduced. If we were all in on the coof jabs, there would be the constant feeling of "what is causing my discomfort?". Or not, depending upon which "news" you listen to...
My only other fear in this regard though is whether or not clinically meaningful shedding occurs in the vaxxed! I still haven't seen convincing literature that tells me, even if some mRNA or spike protein shedding does occur, that it will lead to untoward effects on nearby nonvaccinated. But it's still a possibility in my opinion and then even nonvaccinated people who might work in a highly-vaccinated workplace might experience 'bonus' effects from the vaccine. And to reiterate something I've said previously; I do not call those who were smart enough to avoid the shots 'unvaccinated'. Once you've got the shot you can't get unvaccinated. But I'll bet there are 10s of millions of people (and surviving family members of those who died from the shots) who seriously wish they could actually get UN-vaccinated!
Copying my post above in case you didn't read it...
My daughter who is a nurse also got her religious exemption approved, however, bc most of other staff and her boyfriend's family were jabbed, she is now battling some unknown medical maladies. She's had severe headaches for the last 18 months, along with erratic heart rates. Doctors have not been able to properly diagnose. They first thought it was a cerebral fluid leak, or positional tachycardia, but my feeling is she's got venom in her from all the shedding people around her at the onset.
I do hear of this a lot. And I'm suspicious. I also think that people very close to me might be in the same boat by the say. They're surrounded by vaxxed. You can bet though, that the reason we've not seen convincing published data on this is that no journal would ever consider publishing this, much less even doing the initial peer review. They're corrupt and have been for years (this is an observation made in retrospect but now makes sense).
If covid itself was developed as bio weapon, it could cause unknown long term damage in people who had it (some people didn’t even know they’ve had it)
I hear ya. Once that needle goes in, there is no going back. Just the thought of that kept me AWAY from what everyone else was telling me to do. I have spent concentrated amounts of time in small spaces with those whom I know to be jabbed and have felt ill afterwards.
I have heard pro and con on shedding. I like what Dr. McCollough (?) said regarding the ability to the spike to stay alive long enough outside the human vector, but who knows, right?
I agree.. unfortunately my husband and more than half of my family chose to take the Vaxx because they believed in it... and I worry about all who took the jab!!!!
Yes! Faith over fear. I know someone who was so afraid they would get covid and die. So they vaxxed and boosted. Hospital admissions have been greater than 10x, horrible quality of life with kidney failure, heart issues, blot clots, and more! Would not admit it was the vaxx - although healthy before the vaxx. It’s been a year and he just died from all of it Thursday.
He was Convinced covid would kill him….but it was the vaxx that killed him. He doesn’t have to worry about getting covid anymore. So egregious what has been done.
My Dad and my father-in-law both had prostate cancer in the 90’s. My Dad was not told, as he knew my Dad and we told the doc that if he knew, he would simply give up and die. So he wasn’t told, and he lived over 10 years longer, dying in ‘99.
My fil found out he had cancer, did chemo, died within the year. The chemo was what killed him.....not the cancer.
They use whatever they can to make us afraid, then poison us. IMO, they are demons. The only thing they love is money.
It's absolutely true that cancer treatment kills the patient more often than the cancer does.
That happened with my maternal grandmother and her thyroid cancer. The radiation screwed her up big time and she didn't last long. She likely would have survived months longer, with a higher quality of life if she'd had no treatment at all.
My mom had cancer, got radiation therapy twice over a 5 year period, had a second recurrence and by then was at death's door. My dad finally relented to my position I had always had that she should get alternative therapy and took her to Mexico. They cured her of the cancer. Nothing on the CAT scans. Years later her heart gave out due to muscle damage from the radiation therapy. Chem/Rad will kill you but in their book that is a cure.
Hopefully he is at peace now. I believe 50% of all covidians would do it again no matter the evidence presented etc. They are that fearful and that brainwashed.
Yes, a very good friend jumped on the kool-aid wagon very early. We almost lost a friendship over it. We reconciled and … she died last year with a massive stroke although she had no health issues. I cry for her.
Perfect love casteth out fear....how often do I repeat this verse to myself? Yes, I had planned to stay a few years more to reach the top of pension scale, but reading the wall's handwriting two years ago 'decided' me differently.
Frankly, I'm surprised that attorneys aren't filing class actions left and right. With due respect to Jeff, usually they don't work for free. File and win a huge class action and 30-50% (whatever) of the payout goes directly to the lawyers. That's how they make their money.
Yes there were many legal immunities for Pharma, the medical system itself so they presumably cannot be sued. But what about private corporations and local governments that mandated what was in fact an unapproved "vaccine." Did they even have any legal grounds to do so? What options exist for torts against them? Maybe Jeff would weight in on these.
I'd love to sue my son's university for mandating the C19 shot. He got a religious exemption for the booster mandate but not in time for the original and he submitted because he didn't want to drop out. Luckily so far he has had no ill effects that we know of, but we/he will be worried for the rest of his life. He regrets it greatly and it was against my advice. the kicker is I tracked C19 deaths in the entire region of his school, and exactly zero people under age 40 died in the first two years of C19! (and 6 total in 3 years). In contrast, there were 2240 drug overdose deaths in that state in 2020, mostly young people!
Deleted my comment. Hubs company told him he was free to quit if he didn't want the shot. Would not accept any exemption request. And...those company powers that be live on...go figure.
My son's company told him the same. They denied his religious exemption. My husband told him he didn't make enough money to take the risk. My son found another job and left his company.
Not trying to be argumentative here, but how would you walk away from your pension? Unless you have not been there very long, you should be vested and the pension is yours if you leave the company. It may have been smaller than if you stayed but that's because the pension size accrues depending on how long you worked there.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think what you mean is that you would have left a company that offers a pension, still been eligible to collect but benefits stop accruing, and went to work for a company that does not have a pension (as most don't).
Again, not trying to pick a fight but it's important people understand their rights. Companies cannot punitively take away a pension once you are vested.
Yes, correct. People walk away from their full pension if they had stayed and retired when they normally would have. People who walked away from a pension may have also walked away from benefits not guaranteed them (like lifetime medical coverage) unless they stayed until full retirement age or the full 20 years etc etc. So it isn’t the money they personally put in…..there’s a lot more to it depending on the company you had worked with. People I know walked away from large retirement packages, for example.
Good point, plans can be structured differently with varying milestones which it's why it's important people understand their pensions.
I took issue with the phrase "walked away from a pension" which I read to mean losing vested accruals (and by that I include company contributions, not just employee contributions if applicable). That almost certainly isn't the case. However you are exactly right that people may lose additional benefits if they don't reach a given milestone.
I was eligible to retire with 80% of my retirement and not the full amount. I had religious exemption in that did not approve or disapprove... instead they applied pressure to me instead. I chose to to take the 80% than deal with the stress. I worked for the military as a federal employee.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Barbara or criticize anyone put in this difficult position. I myself got a religious accommodation, reluctantly granted by my company after I made clear I understood my rights under the CRA of 1964. I also have a pension (fully vested) albeit not a large one. Believe me I looked into this in detail.
My main concern is that the people trying to scare us into compliance often start rumors like "lose your pension" to frighten people. They know that kind of talk is scary to people who worked for decades, and they count on people not knowing the facts. We combat this by knowing the truth better than those making the threats.
when you have a family and responsibilities it's difficult to go against such tyranny. How will you provide? can you easily go elsewhere for the same or better pay? will they ask you for your star of david....I mean vaccination card at the next interview....it's crazy.
my exemption was not approved nor denied, the company played a different card on me, I held on as much as I could, and only got one shot (which made me feel disgusted and honestly abused in a way) and then DeSantis came in for the win by protecting private employees.
I'm really sorry that happened to you and I sympathize. I know a few others who were in the same boat. It's absolutely disgusting what the govt and these employers did to people, violating their most basic human rights to bodily autonomy by dangling the threat of their very livelihoods and their families' wellbeing in front of them.
I’m so sorry Florida. My husband would do the exact same. I would put up a fight for him but I know he would. We were 100% lucky his company never required it. But I know if it came down to feeding family or risk his health he’d pick family. 😬
Barbara, you are a courageous woman to be willing to walk away from your pension! That kind of backbone is what would’ve stopped the mandate nonsense in it’s tracks. Unfortunately, we have a clueless, spoiled society. I know MANY who took the vax simply because they wanted to go on a cruise!
I flat told my Supervisor that I would not take the shot -no matter what. Somehow, they made a space for me in my Department. Scary but I was standing my ground but I was practicing, "Paper, or plastic, ma'am"?
I had one friend justify it by saying she wanted to live. To go to concerts etc. Kind of ironic that her reason was wanting to "live." She should not got the clot shot if she wanted to live. 😔
Oh goodness! I have a friend in the same position. She too said she wanted to go to concerts and local theater productions and despite the example of myself and another one of her friends, she got the shots then the boosters. She hasn’t had more than a few days here and there when she hasn’t been sick and unable to leave the house. Then, last week she got a breast cancer diagnosis. A tumor that should not have grown that large in one year since her last negative mammogram. I won’t say a word of course. I will support her in any way I can but I’m heartbroken.
That is sad. My friend had serious menstrual bleeding. She knows it's the shots. She asked me if I thought her fertility was gone. I said I didn't know. Either way it is not normal or healthy. What can you do? All you can do is support them.
YEUP! its so sad. my MIL did it because she wanted to go down to stores in LA. really?!!! OMG. i am just waiting for something to come up for her because she got a Pfizer shot. ugh
BCBSAL was set to lose 30% of their workforce from the forced shot idiocy, so if you turned in an exemption they approved it. Can you imagine how much worse The Great Resignation would be if they had persisted in forcing the shot?
Same with my company. 40% stood strong. So we were like go fire us. You won't be open. The one thing to get from this scamdemic is stand together and don't cave.
Banking. Trust me as there are a lot of woke covidians here. But there's a lot of us who just said no and stuck to our convictions. We didn't make a big deal of it like they did when they got the shots. Quietly stood strong.
My son also got a religious exemption from Florida Blue. He applied soon after they announced their mandate. He asked for a quick decision so that he could make any legal decisions that might be needed. He was exempted a week or two later. I was furious that he had to make a ‘religious’ argument, but relieved that he prevailed. I had told him that he was not under any circumstances to take the jab, even if that meant him living in mom’s basement.
Thank God willing spirit! I just can’t imagine if there were not all of you seasoned people (60s+) fighting with /for your family. In my case my family depends on me to educate them. Parents. But they didn’t take it. They have abstained. BUT SOOO many of their friends and fam did. My moms Bff and her sister (aunt) died this past year I believe from shot.
I know several people that worked at our local State Prison. One young lady guard we know took the J&J jab to keep her job BUT they COULDN'T force the Convicts to take it so the rest of the unvaxxed employees finally threatened to walk out. The employees won but it is a shame some had already got their delayed Kavorkian.
I agree. Mine was also approved very late. (we waited 7 wks when we were told we would hear w/in 2). I’m not sure exactly what happened but basically all were approved at once. Not a trickle of notice.We speculated they consulted lawyers and were told they risked major litigation not to approve. (college district)
You were very lucky!! I represent the 71 fired Ratheon employees and a host of other folks who lost their very nice, high paying, CAREERS over this. The companies not only fired them they sued them for old tuition assistance and black-balled them with horrible reviews, making sure no company would hire them.
And the BCBS plans ( & many other companies) are still requiring jabs for new hires. With so many jabbed, there's no reason for these companies to consider the unvaccinated. It's a "Vaccination discrimination" on job applications that is not going away!!!!
"Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, has a COVID-19 vaccination requirement. Your offer of employment is dependent upon either being fully vaccinated for COVID-19 or an accommodation based on a disability or sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance by submitting a request to Human Resources."
Airline employees as well must be vaccinated if applying for employment. United by far the leader of the pack. United also contemplated and stated that they wanted passengers as well vaccinated. Accommodation was almost nonexistent is my understanding.
This is still so widespread. People with exemptions will hang on to their jobs and those unvaccinated looking for employment have severely limited choices at best!
Barbara - You truly exemplify the courage, discernment and fortitude required to maintain dignity in this time where fear, ignorance and apathy are by far the more prevalent response. Keep that fire burning and I hope you tell your story often and loudly. We are all being challenged by devious, disrespectful bullies - your resolve is what they fear the most because it inspires empathy and truth. Reading your post and the replies it generated made my day! Thank you and God bless you.
I tried to get my husband to file one or retire. He would have lost a huge portion of his pension. He refused to do either and, instead, caved. At least, he got the J&J. Not much better, but not as bad as the others. He’s refused every other since.
I wasn’t willing to walk away from my pension. I fought tooth and nail to stay in.
I put 14 years of my life away from sororities, college friends, family, and a lot of good stuff. I’m not throwing this away but I’m certainly not getting the pole
I would have refused too. I would have been willing to lose everything. It's just not in me to give in to coercion. The harder I'm pushed the more I dig in my heels.
thank you for your everyday humor and facts!! I work for Florida Blue (BCBS of Florida) and surprisingly my religious exemption was approved, albeit it was done towards the end of the deadline to submit one. I have a feeling they saw the writing on the wall and the illegalities of trying to force it on employees. I was willing to walk away from my pension. But so many of my friends were afraid to not comply because they had families to take care of. It is disgusting that any employer tried to play "God" with so many lives. I am waiting to see what litigation comes from this.
“I was willing to walk away from my pension” Balls of steel 💪🏻 I stand and applaud you! It’s great you didn’t have to, but knowing you would’ve says it all. I know others who did walk away from their livelihoods and pensions. Those are the heros! Stand for what is right even if it costs you everything! If we had a nation of people who understood those values - this scamdemic never would’ve got off the ground.
was getting people to quit & "walk away from their pensions" part of the jab push? why? because pensions in many companies are underfunded, upside-down, & an albatross around the company necks?
Probably. But were they really smart enough to think people would actually walk away from those pensions? Doubtful. It just worked out in their favor once again. But better to walk away than be dead. So.
And now many of those who caved will not be collecting their pensions due to premature death via clot shot or unable to enjoy them due to vaxx injuries and disabilities. Such an awful outcome either way.
I finally saw an acquaintance of mine after several weeks. She'd been injured by the J&J shot and continues to have cascading health effects since 2021 - This poor woman - sudden onset diabetes, heart arhythmia , never ending sinus infections, sudden case of shingles out of the blue AND was just diagnosed with MS. This is so incredibly criminal. I can't wait for the litigation to begin. These injured and their families deserve justice.
That's awful. Justice needs to be served.
And it won’t be litigated justice. There’s no legal solution to genocide.
We know a few who caved and now have health problems as a result. Sad!
A couple told us we were smart for not getting vaxxed. While it is gratifying to have that acknowledged, we would rather it never have been the case at all. 😮💨
I have not had one person tell me I made the right decision. They don’t want to face their mistake.
Pamela--Ditto for me too. For most I think they are trying to run as fast as they can lest the truth of the crime done to them is realized. I don't me dead or injured--just the deception, lies which made it so easy to succumb to the 24/7 fear mongering.
Same as people
being dead and not having to payout pensions.
Right! However, the life insurance industry took a HUGE unexpected hit.... They know the truth of why it happened....
To the companies with under funded pensions, it makes no difference to the bottom line whether the employee walks away - with no pension - or dies - no pension.
Excellent Point! Getting rid of that unfunded liability!
I am glad for Sunnydaze and for the good out come. HOWEVER, and as an aside, allowing the government and/or its proxies to be the god-like deciders of who gets and exemption and who does not IS NOT the God-given autonomy of Liberty. It is the chains of an evil system disguised Liberty ... and furthermore leaves the tyrants totally in charge.
That the Holy God-state gets to give out passes for or against is itself infringing. It the same distinction made between permitting and constitutional carry ... but as applied to the power grab of Health Tyranny. In essence, either we are a sovereign people possessed of property (ourselves) ... or we are property (of the state).
Absolutely correct. The faulty concept of someone “granting a religious exemption” to another person makes no sense. Who are they to judge someone else. The whole scheme smacks of serfdom.
Never mind we should have “I just don’t believe in it”. why can’t anyone just say no??? there needs to be bodily autonomy. forget exemptions!
Philosophical exemptions still exist but only in a few states.
Exemptions exist everywhere. You just gotta be willing , as Sunnydaze, to act.
Faulty concept ... exactly! Because with 'exemptions' they the authority figures still remain boots on the ground control agents. And zip for you.
You made me think? Serf? Slave? Or something far more nefarious for which we either don't have a word for, or else one just doesn't come to mind. Serfs ... and even slaves, for example, usually (but not always) have some free time, maybe some basic legal rights. But this Health Terrorism thing? It has the ring of abnegation about it. It's like a thief in the night stealthily invades one's domain to steal one's life, the totality of one's being. In another word, this whole demonic capper feels like an assassination.
I believe it was "Barbara" who was willing to walk away from her pension, but didn't have to in the end. Sunnydaze said she had balls of steel! I would have to agree. I know exactly how those companies manipulated people to get the coof jab, and it was all highly illegal in the world of "Human Resources". So, they force, coerce and shame people into getting jabbed because "they" get money for having a 100% jabbed crew! It is a story that hasn't come out yet, but it is not only the medical complex that got "incentives". Dirty turtles all the way down to where it smells like sulfur.
Yes. schools did also. But it was punitive. we will pull money/grant if you don’t have X! sort of thing
ok-walk through this with me-
the government pushed this on everyone at a LOSS. Pharma already got their money and the shots were free, ergo the admin LOST money by pushing this. We know there was no actual concern for public health as the crap didn't stop transmission, so this truly was just a big, sadistic experiment.
Oh, yes. Hospitals get more government funding via Medicare and Medicaid based on the percentage of their employees that are jabbed. This is not new.
A fully "vaccinated" workforce, no matter the field. And...money from the government if this is achieved by private companies. I know.
Wow yet another reason to be self-employed.
we need all that info!! I know Raytheon was richly rewarded with the Ukraine war and all the $$'s in weapons sales, but there has to be so much more under the table.
evidently Nuremberg was for nought, as nobody cares to enforce it. But we are still reminded of the genocide that spurred its creation. What will history do with the present genocide?
Well then ... and just thinking is over, I think Nuremberg might just be another psy-opt posturing, a whole nuther agenda. Call me cynical, but that what I think. And if any one dared to question the seedier side of WW II and what went on, especially in the European Theater, such people got a lot of grief dished out in arrests, court time and jail time. Just ask David Irving, historian.
Good observation!
I had a client once whose Dad was a prosecutor at Nuremburg.
It was all a psy=op. The main perpetrators were not tried. Rather they were brought here under Operation Paperclip. Even the infamous Dr. Ishii who vivisectioned Chinese civilians AND US soldiers, got a free pass, fabulous jobs and lived out their lives, working for NASA, and other US gov agencies.
https://historycollection.com/evil-doctors-and-scientists-from-world-war-ii/10/
Exactly...and after that a free pass to South America. But, really?? You mention Operation Paperclip and 90% of people have NO idea what that is. Bah!
Did I miss something? What 90% ers have NO idea of Operation Paperclip???
lots of people do not have a clue sadly. Probably most of us know, but I didn't know the whole nasty story until like 3 years ago.
If I were to go out on the street and ask people if they knew what Operation Paperclip was, it is just my guesstimate that 90% would have no clue about it. Ok...maybe 75%. I don't know. Maybe my interaction with people has just been so tainted as of late!
When I first found out about Paperclip several years ago, I felt sick to my stomach. How could our government fail to bring justice in the name of Profit??? But yes, they can and do... One day, God WILL bring justice, and it will be JUST!!!
So disturbing.
Daverkb- Exactly. Per law, religious exemptions are not subject to approval or denial, or even review. Not that anyone follows our country’s laws anymore. My daughter, who is a registered nurse, working in the hospital, got her religious exemption approved, and I of course am glad of that. However, I am very angry that it was subject to approval. I think they only approved it because they were losing so many staff.
My daughter who is a nurse also got her religious exemption approved, however, bc most of other staff and her boyfriend's family were jabbed, she is now battling some unknown medical maladies. She's had severe headaches for the last 18 months, along with erratic heart rates. Doctors have not been able to properly diagnose. They first thought it was a cerebral fluid leak, or positional tachycardia, but my feeling is she's got venom in her from all the shedding people around her at the onset.
Hope she can find a Frontline Doctor to help her detox.
Shedding is definitely a thing. I had migraines and visual oddities after I returned home from a month of visiting my grandsons, during which time she got “fully vaxxed”. We slept in separate rooms until I moved out 6 weeks later, but I definitely had odd effects. Still have odd heart palpitations. But most everyone here in Cali is vaxxed, so I’m surrounded.
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Deep thinking on your part, Dave--WONDERFUL. I see so little of that in today's "mind mandated" world.
Hum? Deep Thinking? Don't let that out. Especially to De Wife. She wouldn't think that possible. After all, I'm only a husband! And especially so if I manage to penetrate that invisible screen ... and gain the kitchen ... and then commence cooking up something ... like rubber eggs and saucisse brûlée.
But thanks! I felt brilliant there for a micro-second!
Not only are you DEEP--you're FUNNY to boot! Your wife should be kissing your boots (figuratively, of course). "smiles"
Ha! Ha! Ha! De Wife? She'd never go that far. And DEEP? That's always Mr. Miscreant, the Incorrible Moi-Meme, when he's managed to get himself into some kind of perplexity ... ya know, of the DEEP Doo-Doo variety! BUT ... so far clear sailing today on sunny blue sky!
Sounds like you've been married for some time, Dave - you know your "place"--LOL!! Well...take the compliment from this 76 year old chickie - it was meant sincerely!
Yes, Sharon ... and I am 74 and married ... for along time. Of course, I could have run, but the allure was just too overpowering!
Place holder! I've got it. I think. Mathematically, a place holder is a zero. Or 'knowing my place' could mean either in my room, or my basement Wonderland. Or is could mean Space Alien. I've heard something like this from De Wife a few times even though I don't have the clue as to was she was talking about. Regarding my room. It somehow never made it into any real estate photo shoot listings of houses ... for some reason? I don't know why. But I noticed that, even though it's the best room in the whole house.
P. S. One good thing. I never had to sleep in the shed. I may have had a few 'close calls' though. But that was a long time ago ... and mercifully, I forgot why. And I may not be smart or clever, but at least I am smart enough not to make inquiries!
Sounds to me like you are very, very wise (better than being OTHERwise--right, Dave?).
Live, love, laugh and PUSH BACK against the evil tyranny swirling around our country.
Peace be unto you in your home and family.
I’m with you on the exemptions. It was shameful watching these companies decide who got one or if they got one granted to them as if they were the peasants of society. Shame on those companies. They took it upon themselves to decide if someone was “religious” enough to get an exemption. Pppfffttt. Turned my stomach.
And yes, turning the decision over to the corporations is an unstated use of the Public/Private partnership (government and business) which is plain out Fascism and the eclipse of ownership by any meaningful definition.
Also, the whole whimsical Exemption Lottery stinks of the beggar bowl.
I suspect it was simply a bonus---decreasing by death the number of benefit recipients would be the intention; experiencing also a recipient decrease by choice must have been quite unexpected. After all, who could imagine that any American would refuse this kindly, for-your-health intervention?
Fascinating take! The moneyed class typically goes for this win-win strategy. Just as they fund both sides of most wars.
and most of my folks were highly paid.
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Yes.
“A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.”
Bob Dylan
Agreed. True heroes .
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see my post above. All of my clients had worked for these companies over 10 years. Many with "top secret" security clearances.
I did have to walk away from my job of almost 25 years and part of my pension. Fortunately, I don’t lose my complete pension, it just won’t be what it would’ve been had I been able to stay. God has continued to guide me in this path, and I am fortunate to have found a new job, that is paying me better and is considerably less stressful to me. Faith over Fear.🙏
Agree. My husband and I now know of several people who have suffered vaxx injuries. Some admit it is the vaxx. Some have not. But my husband said to me that is so good not to have to worry about it and each other as we are unvaxxed. He said "Could you imagine it wondering?" And we don't worry about our children and extended family as we are all unvaxxed. Much better than any pension or benefit.
You are truly blessed Annie! Truly, most families aren’t so blessed and are now suffering.
I worry about my daughter, daughter-in-law and granddaughter all the time, and nieces and nephews as well. I've already lost three close family members to the jabs. Most of my family is fully brainwashed, still.
Yes ma’am. Lost my dad and have quite a few relatives “sick” from something. Truly crazy they are still drinking the cool aid.
So very sorry for the loss of your Dad.
Thanks Nancy!!!
I am so very sorry for your loss.
Thank you.
I almost cried when 3 of my children got vaxxed. I bought them some protocols to mitigate damage but I worry every time one of them gets sick. I told them what was going on with the shot and how unsafe it was, but they chose to believe every one else on the planet.😔
So many of us tried to warn our families only to be dismissed as crazy. It’s painful when their mothers, who love them more than anyone else in the world, who would lay down their life for their kids, are dismissed for people who wouldn’t sacrifice anything for them. I expect our efforts will be reflected upon as the deep love and wisdom they are once we are gone and history reveals more to those we leave behind. That will have to be enough.
Terribly painful and worrisome. I have to leave it in the hands of God.
Emumundo, where did you find protocols info re: mitigating damage? My relative is having "ice pick" pain headaches.
Sorry, just found your reply. I posted it under the original comment. I’ll look up some things and see if I can find out more. I know McCullough recommends nattokinase in addition to the other things listed. Good luck.
Thanks - I found the FLCCC website, they have tons of info, just what I'm looking for - I'm doing research for a relative with potential issues.
ditto. I worry constantly about them. Every freakin time they "feel like crap".
Absolutely!! That was my thinking as well. I am healthy and take care of myself and we eat right, so any pain that we suffer or problem that we have is easily deduced. If we were all in on the coof jabs, there would be the constant feeling of "what is causing my discomfort?". Or not, depending upon which "news" you listen to...
My only other fear in this regard though is whether or not clinically meaningful shedding occurs in the vaxxed! I still haven't seen convincing literature that tells me, even if some mRNA or spike protein shedding does occur, that it will lead to untoward effects on nearby nonvaccinated. But it's still a possibility in my opinion and then even nonvaccinated people who might work in a highly-vaccinated workplace might experience 'bonus' effects from the vaccine. And to reiterate something I've said previously; I do not call those who were smart enough to avoid the shots 'unvaccinated'. Once you've got the shot you can't get unvaccinated. But I'll bet there are 10s of millions of people (and surviving family members of those who died from the shots) who seriously wish they could actually get UN-vaccinated!
Concerned mom
Copying my post above in case you didn't read it...
My daughter who is a nurse also got her religious exemption approved, however, bc most of other staff and her boyfriend's family were jabbed, she is now battling some unknown medical maladies. She's had severe headaches for the last 18 months, along with erratic heart rates. Doctors have not been able to properly diagnose. They first thought it was a cerebral fluid leak, or positional tachycardia, but my feeling is she's got venom in her from all the shedding people around her at the onset.
I do hear of this a lot. And I'm suspicious. I also think that people very close to me might be in the same boat by the say. They're surrounded by vaxxed. You can bet though, that the reason we've not seen convincing published data on this is that no journal would ever consider publishing this, much less even doing the initial peer review. They're corrupt and have been for years (this is an observation made in retrospect but now makes sense).
If covid itself was developed as bio weapon, it could cause unknown long term damage in people who had it (some people didn’t even know they’ve had it)
I hear ya. Once that needle goes in, there is no going back. Just the thought of that kept me AWAY from what everyone else was telling me to do. I have spent concentrated amounts of time in small spaces with those whom I know to be jabbed and have felt ill afterwards.
I have heard pro and con on shedding. I like what Dr. McCollough (?) said regarding the ability to the spike to stay alive long enough outside the human vector, but who knows, right?
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I agree.. unfortunately my husband and more than half of my family chose to take the Vaxx because they believed in it... and I worry about all who took the jab!!!!
Best thought ever!
Yes! Faith over fear. I know someone who was so afraid they would get covid and die. So they vaxxed and boosted. Hospital admissions have been greater than 10x, horrible quality of life with kidney failure, heart issues, blot clots, and more! Would not admit it was the vaxx - although healthy before the vaxx. It’s been a year and he just died from all of it Thursday.
He was Convinced covid would kill him….but it was the vaxx that killed him. He doesn’t have to worry about getting covid anymore. So egregious what has been done.
My Dad and my father-in-law both had prostate cancer in the 90’s. My Dad was not told, as he knew my Dad and we told the doc that if he knew, he would simply give up and die. So he wasn’t told, and he lived over 10 years longer, dying in ‘99.
My fil found out he had cancer, did chemo, died within the year. The chemo was what killed him.....not the cancer.
They use whatever they can to make us afraid, then poison us. IMO, they are demons. The only thing they love is money.
It's absolutely true that cancer treatment kills the patient more often than the cancer does.
That happened with my maternal grandmother and her thyroid cancer. The radiation screwed her up big time and she didn't last long. She likely would have survived months longer, with a higher quality of life if she'd had no treatment at all.
My mom had cancer, got radiation therapy twice over a 5 year period, had a second recurrence and by then was at death's door. My dad finally relented to my position I had always had that she should get alternative therapy and took her to Mexico. They cured her of the cancer. Nothing on the CAT scans. Years later her heart gave out due to muscle damage from the radiation therapy. Chem/Rad will kill you but in their book that is a cure.
Wow. I’m so sorry for the loss of your mom. I’m glad they listened to you as that extended her years with you.
That is so terrible. It says "The love of money is the root of all evil."
So brutal. Sad what they've done to our people.
Hopefully he is at peace now. I believe 50% of all covidians would do it again no matter the evidence presented etc. They are that fearful and that brainwashed.
Yes, a very good friend jumped on the kool-aid wagon very early. We almost lost a friendship over it. We reconciled and … she died last year with a massive stroke although she had no health issues. I cry for her.
I am a Christian and I am amazed that we did not hear from our pulpits Faith over Fear!
I was appalled that the pastors and priests folded and exercised fear over faith. Shameful.
Rabbis folded too with some exception in the ultra orthodox movement.
They too were paid co-conspirators
Wow! So sad. I’m sorry!
Sad
Perfect love casteth out fear....how often do I repeat this verse to myself? Yes, I had planned to stay a few years more to reach the top of pension scale, but reading the wall's handwriting two years ago 'decided' me differently.
Yep, I got short changed by bailing early. Had to take the leap of faith and do it. No regrets. But I'd like to see retribution.
💪🏻 Good job!!! 👏 👏
Frankly, I'm surprised that attorneys aren't filing class actions left and right. With due respect to Jeff, usually they don't work for free. File and win a huge class action and 30-50% (whatever) of the payout goes directly to the lawyers. That's how they make their money.
Yes there were many legal immunities for Pharma, the medical system itself so they presumably cannot be sued. But what about private corporations and local governments that mandated what was in fact an unapproved "vaccine." Did they even have any legal grounds to do so? What options exist for torts against them? Maybe Jeff would weight in on these.
Yes. These woke corporations need to pay. Go woke and go broke.
Agree. Universities too!!
I'd love to sue my son's university for mandating the C19 shot. He got a religious exemption for the booster mandate but not in time for the original and he submitted because he didn't want to drop out. Luckily so far he has had no ill effects that we know of, but we/he will be worried for the rest of his life. He regrets it greatly and it was against my advice. the kicker is I tracked C19 deaths in the entire region of his school, and exactly zero people under age 40 died in the first two years of C19! (and 6 total in 3 years). In contrast, there were 2240 drug overdose deaths in that state in 2020, mostly young people!
Including the recent anheiser busch issue of having a tranny advertise! UGH protest all especially BUD.
Deleted my comment. Hubs company told him he was free to quit if he didn't want the shot. Would not accept any exemption request. And...those company powers that be live on...go figure.
My son's company told him the same. They denied his religious exemption. My husband told him he didn't make enough money to take the risk. My son found another job and left his company.
This is disgusting and shameful! Im so sorry. 😡
Not trying to be argumentative here, but how would you walk away from your pension? Unless you have not been there very long, you should be vested and the pension is yours if you leave the company. It may have been smaller than if you stayed but that's because the pension size accrues depending on how long you worked there.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think what you mean is that you would have left a company that offers a pension, still been eligible to collect but benefits stop accruing, and went to work for a company that does not have a pension (as most don't).
Again, not trying to pick a fight but it's important people understand their rights. Companies cannot punitively take away a pension once you are vested.
Yes, correct. People walk away from their full pension if they had stayed and retired when they normally would have. People who walked away from a pension may have also walked away from benefits not guaranteed them (like lifetime medical coverage) unless they stayed until full retirement age or the full 20 years etc etc. So it isn’t the money they personally put in…..there’s a lot more to it depending on the company you had worked with. People I know walked away from large retirement packages, for example.
Good point, plans can be structured differently with varying milestones which it's why it's important people understand their pensions.
I took issue with the phrase "walked away from a pension" which I read to mean losing vested accruals (and by that I include company contributions, not just employee contributions if applicable). That almost certainly isn't the case. However you are exactly right that people may lose additional benefits if they don't reach a given milestone.
thank you for explaining that, you are correct
I was eligible to retire with 80% of my retirement and not the full amount. I had religious exemption in that did not approve or disapprove... instead they applied pressure to me instead. I chose to to take the 80% than deal with the stress. I worked for the military as a federal employee.
Good for you, sounds like you made a good choice.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Barbara or criticize anyone put in this difficult position. I myself got a religious accommodation, reluctantly granted by my company after I made clear I understood my rights under the CRA of 1964. I also have a pension (fully vested) albeit not a large one. Believe me I looked into this in detail.
My main concern is that the people trying to scare us into compliance often start rumors like "lose your pension" to frighten people. They know that kind of talk is scary to people who worked for decades, and they count on people not knowing the facts. We combat this by knowing the truth better than those making the threats.
This is so true JeffC. Thank you for trying to ensure people
understand.
I think thats what she was trying to say. She walked away from a bigger pension because she would not stay.
when you have a family and responsibilities it's difficult to go against such tyranny. How will you provide? can you easily go elsewhere for the same or better pay? will they ask you for your star of david....I mean vaccination card at the next interview....it's crazy.
my exemption was not approved nor denied, the company played a different card on me, I held on as much as I could, and only got one shot (which made me feel disgusted and honestly abused in a way) and then DeSantis came in for the win by protecting private employees.
You *were* violated, similarly to a rape.
I'm really sorry that happened to you and I sympathize. I know a few others who were in the same boat. It's absolutely disgusting what the govt and these employers did to people, violating their most basic human rights to bodily autonomy by dangling the threat of their very livelihoods and their families' wellbeing in front of them.
I’m so sorry Florida. My husband would do the exact same. I would put up a fight for him but I know he would. We were 100% lucky his company never required it. But I know if it came down to feeding family or risk his health he’d pick family. 😬
exactly, what can you do then - just roll up and pray\hope for the best :(
Barbara, you are a courageous woman to be willing to walk away from your pension! That kind of backbone is what would’ve stopped the mandate nonsense in it’s tracks. Unfortunately, we have a clueless, spoiled society. I know MANY who took the vax simply because they wanted to go on a cruise!
Or, how about for a doughnut and coffee, Jeez!
I flat told my Supervisor that I would not take the shot -no matter what. Somehow, they made a space for me in my Department. Scary but I was standing my ground but I was practicing, "Paper, or plastic, ma'am"?
Stay strong everyone.
Later Jay
I had one friend justify it by saying she wanted to live. To go to concerts etc. Kind of ironic that her reason was wanting to "live." She should not got the clot shot if she wanted to live. 😔
'I want to travel do do cruise ships, so I rolled up my sleeve'. Crazy!
They were just trusting what they were fed on cable news. Most people arent independent researchers.
Oh goodness! I have a friend in the same position. She too said she wanted to go to concerts and local theater productions and despite the example of myself and another one of her friends, she got the shots then the boosters. She hasn’t had more than a few days here and there when she hasn’t been sick and unable to leave the house. Then, last week she got a breast cancer diagnosis. A tumor that should not have grown that large in one year since her last negative mammogram. I won’t say a word of course. I will support her in any way I can but I’m heartbroken.
That is sad. My friend had serious menstrual bleeding. She knows it's the shots. She asked me if I thought her fertility was gone. I said I didn't know. Either way it is not normal or healthy. What can you do? All you can do is support them.
Please ask her to file a VAERS report.
YEUP! its so sad. my MIL did it because she wanted to go down to stores in LA. really?!!! OMG. i am just waiting for something to come up for her because she got a Pfizer shot. ugh
I did too. Had vacations planned and was okay taking jab to go to Europe.
BCBSAL was set to lose 30% of their workforce from the forced shot idiocy, so if you turned in an exemption they approved it. Can you imagine how much worse The Great Resignation would be if they had persisted in forcing the shot?
Same with my company. 40% stood strong. So we were like go fire us. You won't be open. The one thing to get from this scamdemic is stand together and don't cave.
Wow that’s impressive Annie. I’m curious about what kind of company would have such sensible independent thinkers.
Just the area the company covers. Not a lot of over educated people. Also people who have a healthy distrust of government etc.
Do you mind sharing the field you are in?
Banking. Trust me as there are a lot of woke covidians here. But there's a lot of us who just said no and stuck to our convictions. We didn't make a big deal of it like they did when they got the shots. Quietly stood strong.
Wow!!!!
My son also got a religious exemption from Florida Blue. He applied soon after they announced their mandate. He asked for a quick decision so that he could make any legal decisions that might be needed. He was exempted a week or two later. I was furious that he had to make a ‘religious’ argument, but relieved that he prevailed. I had told him that he was not under any circumstances to take the jab, even if that meant him living in mom’s basement.
Thank God willing spirit! I just can’t imagine if there were not all of you seasoned people (60s+) fighting with /for your family. In my case my family depends on me to educate them. Parents. But they didn’t take it. They have abstained. BUT SOOO many of their friends and fam did. My moms Bff and her sister (aunt) died this past year I believe from shot.
YOU ARE ONE OF THE HEROES!
I know several people that worked at our local State Prison. One young lady guard we know took the J&J jab to keep her job BUT they COULDN'T force the Convicts to take it so the rest of the unvaxxed employees finally threatened to walk out. The employees won but it is a shame some had already got their delayed Kavorkian.
I agree. Mine was also approved very late. (we waited 7 wks when we were told we would hear w/in 2). I’m not sure exactly what happened but basically all were approved at once. Not a trickle of notice.We speculated they consulted lawyers and were told they risked major litigation not to approve. (college district)
You were very lucky!! I represent the 71 fired Ratheon employees and a host of other folks who lost their very nice, high paying, CAREERS over this. The companies not only fired them they sued them for old tuition assistance and black-balled them with horrible reviews, making sure no company would hire them.
WOW. Holy crap don’t work for Raytheon!!!!
for a number of reasons...lol
And the BCBS plans ( & many other companies) are still requiring jabs for new hires. With so many jabbed, there's no reason for these companies to consider the unvaccinated. It's a "Vaccination discrimination" on job applications that is not going away!!!!
"Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, has a COVID-19 vaccination requirement. Your offer of employment is dependent upon either being fully vaccinated for COVID-19 or an accommodation based on a disability or sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance by submitting a request to Human Resources."
Airline employees as well must be vaccinated if applying for employment. United by far the leader of the pack. United also contemplated and stated that they wanted passengers as well vaccinated. Accommodation was almost nonexistent is my understanding.
that is digsusting. protest united
This is still so widespread. People with exemptions will hang on to their jobs and those unvaccinated looking for employment have severely limited choices at best!
Barbara - You truly exemplify the courage, discernment and fortitude required to maintain dignity in this time where fear, ignorance and apathy are by far the more prevalent response. Keep that fire burning and I hope you tell your story often and loudly. We are all being challenged by devious, disrespectful bullies - your resolve is what they fear the most because it inspires empathy and truth. Reading your post and the replies it generated made my day! Thank you and God bless you.
I tried to get my husband to file one or retire. He would have lost a huge portion of his pension. He refused to do either and, instead, caved. At least, he got the J&J. Not much better, but not as bad as the others. He’s refused every other since.
I wasn’t willing to walk away from my pension. I fought tooth and nail to stay in.
I put 14 years of my life away from sororities, college friends, family, and a lot of good stuff. I’m not throwing this away but I’m certainly not getting the pole
I would have refused too. I would have been willing to lose everything. It's just not in me to give in to coercion. The harder I'm pushed the more I dig in my heels.