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Momcat's avatar

was getting people to quit & "walk away from their pensions" part of the jab push? why? because pensions in many companies are underfunded, upside-down, & an albatross around the company necks?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Probably. But were they really smart enough to think people would actually walk away from those pensions? Doubtful. It just worked out in their favor once again. But better to walk away than be dead. So.

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Annie's avatar

And now many of those who caved will not be collecting their pensions due to premature death via clot shot or unable to enjoy them due to vaxx injuries and disabilities. Such an awful outcome either way.

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Verve's avatar

I finally saw an acquaintance of mine after several weeks. She'd been injured by the J&J shot and continues to have cascading health effects since 2021 - This poor woman - sudden onset diabetes, heart arhythmia , never ending sinus infections, sudden case of shingles out of the blue AND was just diagnosed with MS. This is so incredibly criminal. I can't wait for the litigation to begin. These injured and their families deserve justice.

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Annie's avatar

That's awful. Justice needs to be served.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

And it won’t be litigated justice. There’s no legal solution to genocide.

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daverkb's avatar

We know a few who caved and now have health problems as a result. Sad!

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Annie's avatar

A couple told us we were smart for not getting vaxxed. While it is gratifying to have that acknowledged, we would rather it never have been the case at all. 😮‍💨

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I have not had one person tell me I made the right decision. They don’t want to face their mistake.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Pamela--Ditto for me too. For most I think they are trying to run as fast as they can lest the truth of the crime done to them is realized. I don't me dead or injured--just the deception, lies which made it so easy to succumb to the 24/7 fear mongering.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Same as people

being dead and not having to payout pensions.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Right! However, the life insurance industry took a HUGE unexpected hit.... They know the truth of why it happened....

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

To the companies with under funded pensions, it makes no difference to the bottom line whether the employee walks away - with no pension - or dies - no pension.

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daverkb's avatar

Excellent Point! Getting rid of that unfunded liability!

I am glad for Sunnydaze and for the good out come. HOWEVER, and as an aside, allowing the government and/or its proxies to be the god-like deciders of who gets and exemption and who does not IS NOT the God-given autonomy of Liberty. It is the chains of an evil system disguised Liberty ... and furthermore leaves the tyrants totally in charge.

That the Holy God-state gets to give out passes for or against is itself infringing. It the same distinction made between permitting and constitutional carry ... but as applied to the power grab of Health Tyranny. In essence, either we are a sovereign people possessed of property (ourselves) ... or we are property (of the state).

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Carole's avatar

Absolutely correct. The faulty concept of someone “granting a religious exemption” to another person makes no sense. Who are they to judge someone else. The whole scheme smacks of serfdom.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Never mind we should have “I just don’t believe in it”. why can’t anyone just say no??? there needs to be bodily autonomy. forget exemptions!

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Truthseeker's avatar

Philosophical exemptions still exist but only in a few states.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Exemptions exist everywhere. You just gotta be willing , as Sunnydaze, to act.

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daverkb's avatar

Faulty concept ... exactly! Because with 'exemptions' they the authority figures still remain boots on the ground control agents. And zip for you.

You made me think? Serf? Slave? Or something far more nefarious for which we either don't have a word for, or else one just doesn't come to mind. Serfs ... and even slaves, for example, usually (but not always) have some free time, maybe some basic legal rights. But this Health Terrorism thing? It has the ring of abnegation about it. It's like a thief in the night stealthily invades one's domain to steal one's life, the totality of one's being. In another word, this whole demonic capper feels like an assassination.

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SadieJay's avatar

I believe it was "Barbara" who was willing to walk away from her pension, but didn't have to in the end. Sunnydaze said she had balls of steel! I would have to agree. I know exactly how those companies manipulated people to get the coof jab, and it was all highly illegal in the world of "Human Resources". So, they force, coerce and shame people into getting jabbed because "they" get money for having a 100% jabbed crew! It is a story that hasn't come out yet, but it is not only the medical complex that got "incentives". Dirty turtles all the way down to where it smells like sulfur.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yes. schools did also. But it was punitive. we will pull money/grant if you don’t have X! sort of thing

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

ok-walk through this with me-

the government pushed this on everyone at a LOSS. Pharma already got their money and the shots were free, ergo the admin LOST money by pushing this. We know there was no actual concern for public health as the crap didn't stop transmission, so this truly was just a big, sadistic experiment.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Oh, yes. Hospitals get more government funding via Medicare and Medicaid based on the percentage of their employees that are jabbed. This is not new.

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SadieJay's avatar

A fully "vaccinated" workforce, no matter the field. And...money from the government if this is achieved by private companies. I know.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Wow yet another reason to be self-employed.

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

we need all that info!! I know Raytheon was richly rewarded with the Ukraine war and all the $$'s in weapons sales, but there has to be so much more under the table.

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aj's avatar

evidently Nuremberg was for nought, as nobody cares to enforce it. But we are still reminded of the genocide that spurred its creation. What will history do with the present genocide?

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daverkb's avatar

Well then ... and just thinking is over, I think Nuremberg might just be another psy-opt posturing, a whole nuther agenda. Call me cynical, but that what I think. And if any one dared to question the seedier side of WW II and what went on, especially in the European Theater, such people got a lot of grief dished out in arrests, court time and jail time. Just ask David Irving, historian.

Good observation!

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

I had a client once whose Dad was a prosecutor at Nuremburg.

It was all a psy=op. The main perpetrators were not tried. Rather they were brought here under Operation Paperclip. Even the infamous Dr. Ishii who vivisectioned Chinese civilians AND US soldiers, got a free pass, fabulous jobs and lived out their lives, working for NASA, and other US gov agencies.

https://historycollection.com/evil-doctors-and-scientists-from-world-war-ii/10/

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SadieJay's avatar

Exactly...and after that a free pass to South America. But, really?? You mention Operation Paperclip and 90% of people have NO idea what that is. Bah!

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Concerned mom's avatar

Did I miss something? What 90% ers have NO idea of Operation Paperclip???

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

lots of people do not have a clue sadly. Probably most of us know, but I didn't know the whole nasty story until like 3 years ago.

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SadieJay's avatar

If I were to go out on the street and ask people if they knew what Operation Paperclip was, it is just my guesstimate that 90% would have no clue about it. Ok...maybe 75%. I don't know. Maybe my interaction with people has just been so tainted as of late!

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Concerned mom's avatar

When I first found out about Paperclip several years ago, I felt sick to my stomach. How could our government fail to bring justice in the name of Profit??? But yes, they can and do... One day, God WILL bring justice, and it will be JUST!!!

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

The info on that has been out there for decades. Operation Mockingbird also.

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SadieJay's avatar

Yep...out there for decades. But, Americans don't know about this and are not interested in attaining knowledge.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

So disturbing.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Daverkb- Exactly. Per law, religious exemptions are not subject to approval or denial, or even review. Not that anyone follows our country’s laws anymore. My daughter, who is a registered nurse, working in the hospital, got her religious exemption approved, and I of course am glad of that. However, I am very angry that it was subject to approval. I think they only approved it because they were losing so many staff.

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Concerned mom's avatar

My daughter who is a nurse also got her religious exemption approved, however, bc most of other staff and her boyfriend's family were jabbed, she is now battling some unknown medical maladies. She's had severe headaches for the last 18 months, along with erratic heart rates. Doctors have not been able to properly diagnose. They first thought it was a cerebral fluid leak, or positional tachycardia, but my feeling is she's got venom in her from all the shedding people around her at the onset.

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Carole's avatar

Hope she can find a Frontline Doctor to help her detox.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Shedding is definitely a thing. I had migraines and visual oddities after I returned home from a month of visiting my grandsons, during which time she got “fully vaxxed”. We slept in separate rooms until I moved out 6 weeks later, but I definitely had odd effects. Still have odd heart palpitations. But most everyone here in Cali is vaxxed, so I’m surrounded.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Deep thinking on your part, Dave--WONDERFUL. I see so little of that in today's "mind mandated" world.

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daverkb's avatar

Hum? Deep Thinking? Don't let that out. Especially to De Wife. She wouldn't think that possible. After all, I'm only a husband! And especially so if I manage to penetrate that invisible screen ... and gain the kitchen ... and then commence cooking up something ... like rubber eggs and saucisse brûlée.

But thanks! I felt brilliant there for a micro-second!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Not only are you DEEP--you're FUNNY to boot! Your wife should be kissing your boots (figuratively, of course). "smiles"

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daverkb's avatar

Ha! Ha! Ha! De Wife? She'd never go that far. And DEEP? That's always Mr. Miscreant, the Incorrible Moi-Meme, when he's managed to get himself into some kind of perplexity ... ya know, of the DEEP Doo-Doo variety! BUT ... so far clear sailing today on sunny blue sky!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Sounds like you've been married for some time, Dave - you know your "place"--LOL!! Well...take the compliment from this 76 year old chickie - it was meant sincerely!

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daverkb's avatar

Yes, Sharon ... and I am 74 and married ... for along time. Of course, I could have run, but the allure was just too overpowering!

Place holder! I've got it. I think. Mathematically, a place holder is a zero. Or 'knowing my place' could mean either in my room, or my basement Wonderland. Or is could mean Space Alien. I've heard something like this from De Wife a few times even though I don't have the clue as to was she was talking about. Regarding my room. It somehow never made it into any real estate photo shoot listings of houses ... for some reason? I don't know why. But I noticed that, even though it's the best room in the whole house.

P. S. One good thing. I never had to sleep in the shed. I may have had a few 'close calls' though. But that was a long time ago ... and mercifully, I forgot why. And I may not be smart or clever, but at least I am smart enough not to make inquiries!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Sounds to me like you are very, very wise (better than being OTHERwise--right, Dave?).

Live, love, laugh and PUSH BACK against the evil tyranny swirling around our country.

Peace be unto you in your home and family.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I’m with you on the exemptions. It was shameful watching these companies decide who got one or if they got one granted to them as if they were the peasants of society. Shame on those companies. They took it upon themselves to decide if someone was “religious” enough to get an exemption. Pppfffttt. Turned my stomach.

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daverkb's avatar

And yes, turning the decision over to the corporations is an unstated use of the Public/Private partnership (government and business) which is plain out Fascism and the eclipse of ownership by any meaningful definition.

Also, the whole whimsical Exemption Lottery stinks of the beggar bowl.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I suspect it was simply a bonus---decreasing by death the number of benefit recipients would be the intention; experiencing also a recipient decrease by choice must have been quite unexpected. After all, who could imagine that any American would refuse this kindly, for-your-health intervention?

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DrDoug's avatar

Fascinating take! The moneyed class typically goes for this win-win strategy. Just as they fund both sides of most wars.

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

and most of my folks were highly paid.

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