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Tom Haviland's avatar

The only problem with the law that Congress just passed telling the FAA that none of us are required to wear a mask or get the jab in order to fly on an airplane is that the law is SPECIFIC to COVID-19 ONLY! If the Bird Flu or "Disease X" strikes next, I can see the tyrants requiring us wear masks and get jabs again in order to fly.

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L  Young's avatar

If masking is band everywhere then how will we know which people are the liberal progressive s ? Maybe rainbow colored armbands?

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Peter Schott's avatar

They'll be sure to let you know .... ;)

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I saw something funny yesterday, Karen's calling conservatives Karen's. 🤪 Wait! That would be DingBats usurping cats and rainbows calling conservatives a very lovely name.

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RU's avatar

I feel really bad for my cousin, who is named Karen.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I have a dear friend (Mennonite woman) whose name is Karen - she was wearing a sun visor at a recent outdoor event with her name embroidered on the front. A passerby stopped her and said, "I think you should rethink that visor" - and my friend responded, "But that IS my real name" - LOL!!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I appreciate knowing this. I now have an idea for a birthday git for my sister, Karen.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Therein lies the problem.

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Jade Dixon's avatar

If we ban masking then I have no way to figure out who the chronic jabbers are so I can avoid them. Since I'm sensitive to their shedding it's important I keep my distance. Just let the fools muzzle themselves.

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L  Young's avatar

The trouble with allowing masking is that it sends a message to the Hysteria Class that Chicken Little is right. Which then empowers CL to share the love of masking, distancing, vaxxing, cowering, huddling under the bed to everyone in the name of “Safety “

Beautiful word Safety. Incredibly handy.

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RU's avatar

It's also not lost on me that it's a face covering, a muzzling and papering over of one's individual identity by a collective, manufactured identity. For regime bootlickers, it's an outward-facing symbol that the mask-wearer agrees with the edicts of the tyrants and their censors; but it's also a show of force against the dissenters, that they have been forced to bow to the power of the regime and accept their edicts. It's very effective in that way. Evil, but effective.

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Jade Dixon's avatar

So instead of censoring their message we need to come back with a better message.

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Paige Green's avatar

It’s not banned, it just can’t be mandated. I have faith the Covidians will still be sporting them.

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goodnightrose's avatar

Like vegans, they'll all but introduce themselves as such.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

It’s easy to tell who the a$$ holes are (goodnightrose)because they needlessly try to demean others that have not said an unkind word to them. Most vegans don’t let anyone know that they’re vegan because of bullies like you that just can’t resist trying to hurt others to make themselves feel superior.

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Angus McPherson's avatar

You are probably right, most Vegans don't start a conversation with "Hello, I"m Lindsey, and I've not hurt an animal directly or indirectly for the last 4 years."

I have experienced the persons who wear their Veganism as a kind of aposematic decoration, and they give a bad name to the rest of us. I have an extremely restrictive diet (not by choice, long story) and I'm always careful not to put it on anyone else. I am seldom available for business lunches, but always for a Coffee with someone because orchestrating something I can eat at a restaurant is nearly impossible without creating a scene that at times ends up involving the manager or the chef or both. The people with with are invariable bemused, because they want to know why.... Yikes. I just can't take that.

But I have encountered people who almost shout their veganism, and with it project the shaming of others in their sense of entitlement. "I'm vegan" they seem to, or actually do, say "and I'm more enlightened than you because I know that eating anything animal related is violent and disgusting" To me some of this feels like religious fervor.

I understand why some people are Vegan. I totally respect their right to be so, and do it without criticism. What I object isn't the virtue signaling that comes with the loud pronouncement; its the lack of concern to the other people and the service employees they are around. I guess I object to the narcissistic tendency in some that insists that what they believe must be more than tolerated, it must be served and lauded to the inconvenience of others.

This is why even on Reddit you see memes that reflect @goodnightrose sentiment. The memes wouldn't exist if the experience of many of us weren't a reality.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Most vegans are nice people and shy about telling others because they don’t want to be ridiculed. I’ve been vegetarian now vegan for 35+ years and am usually discreet about it. I don’t usually have any problems ordering at a restaurant, I just request no cheese or meat and I used to eat out once or twice daily. My husband (a meat eater) and I now only dine out 2-3 times a week because of inflation.

I do get triggered by people that out of the blue target vegans with hurtful remarks. It’s usually carnivores saying cruel things about vegans and not the opposite. It’s just noticed more when a vegan is outspoken about their beliefs.

Also, meat eaters get extremely triggered when anyone talks about the cruelty inflicted upon animals. It’s probably akin to slave owners getting triggered by abolitionists. People fighting against slavery were also ridiculed as were women fighting for equality.

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MaryAnn's avatar

My sister worked in a meat packing plant (animals came in on the hoof and were processed from there) in the early 70’s. She never talked about what she saw but was vegetarian for the rest of her 75 years.

I guess she saw how ‘the sausage was made’ and could not stomach meat from then on.

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AngelaK's avatar

I have no problem with people's choices. As long as my choices are also equally respected.

You may want to check out some Greek Lenten dishes. Orthodox Christians do a vegan (with seafood, not fish) fast for Lent and the Greeks have some really tasty main dishes of veggies and legumes..with lots of EVOO which makes them satisfying.

Here is an authentic Mediterranean diet site which includes the 'oil based' ('lathera') dishes:

https://www.olivetomato.com/

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Carla's avatar

I know vegan bullies, who post anti-cruelty memes and videos frequently. What these people NEVER think about is the rodent class, who lose their homes or just plain get ground up from the machinery. There always will be death to bring life...it's the circle of life, no?

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Jay Skywatcher's avatar

You are correct because everything that is eaten has a life force. They have put sensors on plants that register this. No matter what we eat we are ingesting that. There are people that only eat nuts, berries and fruit but won't eat harvested vegetables.

Nothing gets out of this world alive, but according to quantum physics, none of us really exist. There are some scientists that believe we really are in a computer type matrix.

I don't ridicule what others choose to eat and don't want them dictating what I can eat. To each his own.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

I’ve never seen a vegan start anything here. It’s always the meat eaters. I’ve seen lots of the memes on FB and usually unfollow people that post excessively. Yes, death is a part of life, but we should try to practice love for all creatures.

I would not enter in my list of friends,

Who needlessly sets foot upon a worm.

An inadvertent step may crush the snail

That crawls at evening in the public path,

But he has the humanity, forewarned,

Will tread aside, and let the reptile live.

- Cowper

Every creature is better alive than dead, men and moose and pine trees, and he who understands it aright will rather preserve its life than destroy it.

Henry David Thoreau

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goodnightrose's avatar

Geez, take it easy. It was a joke, if a bit of a Seinfeld observation with more than a hint of truth to it. My personal experience favors this as I spent much of the last two decades in the live music scene positively teeming with faux hippies and vegans. To say they're not shy about it is an understatement. And while many of them perfectly non-judgmental, just as many are happy to chastise a perfect stranger over what he chooses to put in his body.

Ironically, these same free-spirited pious lovers of all things Earth and Nature were the first to condemn as selfish those who declined to strap a bacteria-laden rag over their faces or inject pharma sludge in order to get into a show.

Sorry, Sarah, but your outrage falls a little flat with me.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Most clothing was produced through violence to plants. Can't you hear your socks screaming?

I don't have a beef with vegans, vegetarians or carnivores. Each to his own. I prefer nuts, berries, and vegetables, but can't always find them in the grocery store. How is it in your town? The shelves are nearly bare in the stores, with no explanation. Basic food items aren't available, and things like greens are never fresh and crisp. I tried growing my own, and failed.

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AngelaK's avatar

Fortunate here in South Florida, I buy most of my nuts,

seeds, organic produce including organic blueberries all year long from Trader Joe's, at a decent price too.

Whole Foods and our local Publix supermarket are decent too, but pricey. Sprouts is even pricier, so thank God for Trader's.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

I have over 40 fruit and nut trees. I also have several types of berry bushes. I buy my clothes from thrift stores. I wish people cared about cruelty to farm and other animals, but I understand most won’t care about their suffering. I don’t lecture or try to convert anyone because it’s pointless.

I get sick of hearing the usual rhetoric that “plants have feelings” or that animals die when crops are harvested blah, blah, blah.

Most people are too selfish to care about the harm caused to animals because they want to eat their flesh and organs. But those same people don’t want to admit that they participate in animal cruelty and slaughter or that those animals (they so joyously) eat have feelings and want to live. Since they cannot admit the truth about themselves, they then attack those that are trying (however imperfectly) to not harm animals.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

There were more meat eaters condemning those of us that refused the jab or to wear masks. You’re stating speculation, not fact.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Romans 14:2-3

One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I believe the pro-hamas "student protesters" were requiring arm bands to be allowed into their "encampments". A historical use for encampments is siege warfare. Coincidence?

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L  Young's avatar

Sometimes the name of a thing obscures the reality of the thing.

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Just Comment's avatar

Especially, this whole "protest“ was cooked-up and paid for by we-know-who.

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liz's avatar

yeah, not true at all. it was organic, although Soros always manages to worm his way into anything.

just like the usual suspects fund both sides of a war.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Unlike Jeff, I DON'T feel bad for the COVID holdouts. . .I feel bad for those employees who couldn't, for whatever reason, hold out against the mandates. We KNEW it was going to change, eventually, but I guess a lot of folks either figured the mandates were no big deal and went along to get along, or couldn't figure out a way around them, buying themselves some time.

I was on 'The Healthy American" before I even stumbled fortuitously across C&C, and Peggy Hall was a beacon of sanity in those early days.

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RU's avatar

I know a few myself. Young people starting careers and families who just couldn't find another job quickly enough. When you have to choose b/w your own health and feeding your child, I think most people choose feeding their child. I feel bad for them. The Good Germans who cheered this on, I do not feel one bit bad for.

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Peace's avatar

Yes, Peggy Hall shared so much common sense knowledge on Covid, mandates, etc.

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Carlos's avatar

I was just thinking the same thing.

Now I can recognize them by the mask.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

It’s just not allowed to be mandated—they’re free to muzzle against Covid and/or try to conceal their identities.

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SadieJay's avatar

Shutting the barn door after the horse of death is loose. Big deal...no mandates for the BS that has already passed but is still killing. What do they want? An effing reward? We need to vote all these idiots out...eyelashes and all.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I'd settle for just the eyelashes. It would take things down a notch.

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AL's avatar

Exactly, --hardly an oversight. It was written this way on purpose. Very limited purpose.

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Peter Schott's avatar

True, but it _does_ give some hope that a reasonable judge would say "this applies to other stuff as well". Of course, first you have to find reasonable judges....

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Dr Linda's avatar

We can hope. I am very short on hope these days. : )

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Noooooooo don’t lose hope Dr. Linda!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Haven't lost, just short. Thanks for caring

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Bones's avatar

Hope, in the Lord and keep your eyes on eternity.

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Tom's avatar

Judges who can tell one virus from another better than they can tell a man from a woman?

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Toobguy47's avatar

My thought immediately as I read the law quoted. Why so narrow?

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Fred's avatar

And I don’t agree with banning masks either. Bans take away freedoms too.

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RU's avatar

I think it's a ban on forcing people to wear them. I suppose if one is a lunatic and thinks a piece of cloth or N95 is going to somehow "protect" them as they walk around the store, then they are free to wear their silly virtue-signaling device. At some point though, the harms of an action need to come into consideration. I still think shaming, finger-pointing, and laughing at mask wearers is the best way out of this.

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Fred's avatar

Don't forget that some of those (many more these days!) may be severely immunosuppressed and dying of cancer. Just sayin'...

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Then they're wearing masks to hasten their own death process. Euthanasia-lite.

Because masks don't protect them. They hurt their own immune system. Wearing a warm, moist petri dish across your face results in inhaling deadly staph, bacteria, phage, fungus, over and over and over and over.

The whole "protect the immunocompromised" line is complete and utter bullshit. Deadly bullshit. Giving credence to that deadly lie is what got us here in the first place. Repeating the lie does the work of the bastards for them. That's the truth of it.

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RU's avatar

You live up to your name! I like it. This mask thing is insidious. Pure political theater designed to drive fear and mail-in balloting so they could steal an election. It's not lost on me that even both Fauci and the WaPo in 2020 said masks don't work. But as soon as Trump said he wouldn't wear them, they were a "critical tool" and mandated.

I also keep pointing out to people: Mao's red guard used these things and they were kids with no medical issues. Masks are some sort of political symbol of trying to "purge" the country of "impurity." They serve only a political and destructive purpose.

Destructive on both the personal and the societal levels. Our bodies exhale things that are harmful to them. That's literally why we exhale. To block that process is to harm oneself. Exactly like deciding never to defecate or urinate. And to cover our faces and "muzzle" ourselves is as destructive to the social fabric as anything I can think of.

Thanks for being vigilant on this issue.

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Fred's avatar

Putting a clean, unhandled mask, preferably an N95 on for a brief foray into a germ ridden hospital (and NOT taking it on and off and handling it without washing your hands) probably helps if you have no WBCs. I truly hope your hostility mellows, because leukemia and other cancers are exploding and you're gonna see more of it. And if I might remind you, the 'studies' showing that masks don't work do not take into account the ridiculous handling of the masks by the wearers. I haven't read a single good study, pretty much on anything in months to years (actually, some medical stuff from other countries looks solid, so apologies in advance).

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Freedom Fox's avatar

LOL! You're a true believer in cooties!! LOLOLOL! "Germ-ridden hospital" As if!!

George Carlin knew more about immune systems than ANYONE still pushing the whole cootie theory:

George Carlin, Germs, Immune System

https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo

Here's some actual science that's the basis behind Carlin's humorous presentation:

New study suggests dogs protect babies against infection

https://puppytales.com.au/new-study-suggests-dogs-protect-babies-against-infection/

The actual study: https://web.archive.org/web/20120808130947/http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2012/07/03/peds.2011-2825.full.pdf

You have a belief system. Not fact or evidence-based. Beliefs are a religion, a cult, with symbols for members to display. Not many Christians can be talked out of their faith or a cross that symbolizes it.

Masks are symbols, amulets, talismans. Not medically protective of ANY microbiological threat. The Romans had their own protective amulets. A Winged Phallus provides all of the same benefit a wearer comes to expect from a mask, without all of the unwanted harmful side effects.:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/romans-used-to-ward-off-sickness-with-flying-penis-amulets

There's even a a John Travolta film, "Boy in the Plastic Bubble," where they advanced the concept that hiding from the microbiology of the world was possible by living inside a bubble, isolated from human contact. Like we were told was possible by health "experts" since 2020, and many people still live believing, hiding behind their facemasks and face shields and hiding from society:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_in_the_Plastic_Bubble

Thing is, the concept of cooties was, is a lie. They know it's a lie. The real life the movie was based on was a tragedy of a lie, deprived the child of any kind life worth living, died anyways:

https://www.wired.com/2006/04/sad-story-of-boy-in-the-bubble/

There are NO studies that show masks are medically effective. None. Not even in sterile hospital settings. Not even in open body cavity surgery. Pre-2020 OSHA training posters were in hospital break rooms or near time clocks showing proper donning and doffing mask procedures. Masks were deemed "Placebo Masks." As in, to trick the mind into believing they work. Placebo. OSHA rules on handling to protect the wearer from self-harm, not to protect others. And even hospitals with trained professionals given classes on proper mask wearing would have OSHA reported mask injuries from improper donning/doffing, extended wear of soiled, etc. Infection Control Logs would record them. The audacity of authorities to pretend the general public would wear them more hygienically than trained medical staff is breathtakingly stupid. Even the WHO resisted community masking guidance up until about June, 2020. For that very reason. Though they push masking in health care facilities with a strong emphasis on safety protocols. That the general public could, nor ever would be expected to follow as well:

Advice on the use of masks in the context of COVID-19

WHO, June 5, 2020

https://iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/332293/WHO-2019-nCov-IPC_Masks-2020.4-eng.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

There's also the psycho-societal harms of masking that are conveniently ignored and dismissed by those who support masking, as well as those who enable it, like Fred:

Mark Changizi

https://www.loofwired.com/p/face-masks-and-their-many-dimensions

https://www.loofwired.com/p/no-way-face-masks-are-harmful-for

https://www.loofwired.com/p/breaking-masks-harm

https://www.loofwired.com/p/48-science-moment-episodes-on-the

Because masks are harmful to society. They are inherently divisive, as any symbol demonstrating membership of a group is. And they increase conflict, violence, are disruptive of social order. Triggering amygdala fear response deprived of an accurate read of threat assessment that a bare face is evolved to provide. The Science in next comment.

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Fred's avatar

Ridicule does not benefit our society. Getting out the truth does. If you must, print out and share the mask studies, which BTW, are sometimes flawed too. I question all literature these days.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I have pretty much given up on trying to educate the mask wearers but perhaps a well-funded ad campaign could help those who wear them "just to be safe", not realizing they are lowering their O2 levels and re-ingesting the chemicals and pathogens their body is trying to expel. I am glad that the non-maskers are now in the majority, even in Central Covidistan (Western Washington). I do agree that vitriol is not generally productive but also remember how much hate was thrown my way when I refused to comply. I have yet to see any business with a "no mask" policy. When the mandates were in effect (yes, governor Cuomo, there was force involved) jewelry stores and banks would have people lower their masks for the camera but then put them back on. So many ridiculous rules and most complied. I hope more people are awake but have definite reservations about what will happen when they do it again with greater gusto.

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RU's avatar

You are correct in that you can't "educate" people who are locked into an incorrect cognitive/emotional framework. Facts cannot penetrate existing frameworks. It's why it's so hard to shift people from one "tribe" to another. You have to undermine the framing for the facts to have a chance.

Shaming is one powerful way cognitive frames are undermined. It's how we got into this mess - they shamed those who refused to comply and overturned decades of common sense and even personal real-life experience in just months - and it's how we will get out of this mess. Trying to "educate" them with facts and data will do no good whatsoever.

I mean, it's not like this is some new issue and no one in history ever thought to put on a freaking mask. It's been a disproven method for over a century now (at least since the Spanish Flu). There are literally NO studies definitively showing these things work, and yet people persist. So, yeah, "education" isn't going to have an effect.

And, frankly, if they had no negative effects I'd say whatever and move on. But the goal of them and their effect is to undermine social cohesion and maintain the "us" vs. "them" psy-op.

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Fred's avatar

Wish I could 'like' your comment! :)

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Freedom Fox's avatar

And, ridicule and shame work! VERY effectively. Either it's used by those protecting society from the ridiculous and shameful. Or by those who are ridiculous and shameful destroying society. It's zero-sum. No middle ground. No win-win. Sharing data and studies at this point is useless. These were minds that were poisoned by emotion and no amount of logic or studies will cure them. Counter the emotional poison with emotional remedies.

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RU's avatar

The masks are a psy-op designed to undermine society. There is a reason Mao's red guard wore these things.

There is no - and never has been any - data that shows they work. I learned this in a graduate level public health course. There was never any legitimate reason top use them, much less mandate them. Even Fauci and WaPo came out against using them when this started, and then suddenly pretended like that didn't happen and reversed course.

It's a psy-op and they need to be shamed away. Failing that, they need to be banned as a tool of hostile foreign agents trying to undermine American society.

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RU's avatar

And all those same types of people existed just 5 years ago and for some reason didn't wear masks. Viruses didn't change. Masks didn't change. No one wore them b/c we all knew (as I learned in grad public health) that masks don't work. The only thing that has changed is that it's become a political virtue-signal.

Shame them. If that doesn't work, ban the masks as the tool of oppression they are. They are intended solely to destroy the social fabric. They have no positive use value. There is a reason Mao's red guard wore them, and it wasn't for their health.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I have spoken with mask wearers who have allergies and use them to reduce exposure to pollen and spores during high allergen times. They report a reduction in symptoms and as I always approach respectfully we usually have a good conversation. I try to be reasonable in considering these things though I find myself resisting wearing a real filter mask (N95, etc.) even when I know I should (working in the attic, drilling cement indoors, etc.). Not all mask wearers are covidiots.

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Fred's avatar

Actually they did. It just didn't trigger people like it seems to these days. Agreed that there are many who don't fit the criteria I mentioned. Just don't think the vitriol is a good thing.

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RU's avatar

No, they did not. There's no need to make stuff up to make a point. In my many decades of living I never saw a single person wearing a mask in public prior to 2020. Not even one. Ever. Nowhere I've been in the world, including nearly all 50 states. Literally, not one out of the millions of people I've seen. Now, we see them every day. That is a meaningful difference and it speaks to every point I was making. Prior to 2020, no one was using these things b/c everyone knew they didn't work. It was not only common knowledge, it was established scientific/medical fact and practice. Only when it was politically expedient did these suddenly become a "critical tool."

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Austin's avatar

So does forcing one to wear a mask......if they are not banned.

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Fred's avatar

Bans are very freedom restrictive, just like mandates. Just sayin'. And there are times when masks are beneficial. Ridin' in a dust storm, e.g. Then folks would fight over whether or not my bandana is a mask. Good grief! Too many people go overboard one way or the other, and read waaaay too much into others' actions. We don't know if they're battling cancer and think the mask might help with droplets. None of our business. Moderation and freedom to be yourself highly desirable traits IMHO.

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

Just to be clear, they are not banning masks, they are banning mandates.

Also, as the wife of someone who has severe respiratory issues, I knew before the pandemic that masks - even N95s - DO NOT WORK to protect you from breathing in someone else’s germs, but they do cause harm to the wearer. Other commenters have enumerated these, and they are right.

A dust storm is a whole other thing entirely, as is wood dust in a woodworking shop. But germs? Masks are worse than useless.

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striketheroot's avatar

Exactamente! More word games from our fearless "leaders" now that the horse has left the barn. These are the same people who were exempted from the DNA vax...

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Elaine Russky's avatar

We are still taking off our shoes at TSA's airport security pageant. The government is always on top of the disasters of yesteryear.

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Toobguy47's avatar

My thought immediately as I read the law quoted. Why so narrow?

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

It was extremely bipartisan, something like 96-4 it passed. If the ban covered any future pandemics or jabs, democrats would never have agreed to it. The covid 19 bans are almost worthless at this point, but as commenter above noted, the precedent might have some value legally in the future.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good points.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Exactly, Tom H.; the shortsightedness, or worse, is exasperating.

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KPCon's avatar

I was thinking the exact same thing!

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Dorothy Barnes's avatar

Yes, they can reinstate those requirements in a moment. They’ll not give up their power but are sure to bring them back during the next plandemic. But we must not comply.

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Erin Fight's avatar

Grrrrrrrrrrrr... and all of the military aged men crossing the border will be enforcing vax mandates, as UN Soldiers.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Them making a law banning something means that they think they have the power over that something. I’d rather leave the power in the hands of the people and not concentrate it at the level of government particularly the federal government. If an individual company decided to make wearing a mask something passengers need to do to fly with them, then consumers can decide to fly with them or not, or vote with their feet. It would be interesting to know what people would decide to do. We live in very interesting times and so many are susceptible to the propaganda of the MSM and company. Praying for truth to be obvious and for critical thinking to be strong! Thank you, Jeff Childers for working so hard to illuminate the truth and help us all think more critically!!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

The problem with that is, if every airline decides to collude and do this, no one will have a choice. This happened with supermarkets in many areas. People said, if it bothers you, shop online or shop elsewhere (even if that meant driving 45 minutes or more out of your way). I shouldn’t have to shop online if I don’t want to (I hate hate hate buying produce if I can’t see or touch it) nor should I be limited to one store an hour away because i don’t wish to wear a medical device (and yes, even if we know they don’t work to stop viruses, masks are still classified as medical devices and can affect people’s health—they affected my breathing and blood pressure). I don’t think any business should have the right to require that someone should submit to a medical intervention in order to receive goods or services.

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Pamela's avatar

I was thinking the exact same thing, Tom. And also who knows if Biden will even sign this into law.

Good to see you on here! (Tom and I are freedom fighters in the same area of Ohio!)

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Jwm4ever's avatar

Thinking the exact same thing. Looks like smoke and mirror stuff. Looks good but doesn’t actually do anything good.

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Politico Phil's avatar

What a game!

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Surely wait in silence for God, O my soul,

For my hope is from Him.

Surely He is my rock and my salvation,

My stronghold; I shall not be shaken.

On God my salvation and my glory rest;

The rock of my strength, my refuge is in God.

Trust in Him at all times, O people;

Pour out your heart before Him;

God is a refuge for us. Selah.

— Psalm 62:5-8 LSB

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JCrutcher's avatar

Amen.

My hope is from the Lord. Thankful for Jeff Childers in sharing the hope he sees, here on earth.

Praise the Lord!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Thank you for continuing to share. I always love the visual of the huge rock in Morro Bay, CA. I think of this scenery when I think of God as an immovable rock. He cannot be moved. And I love that ONLY IN GOD IS MY SOUL AT REST - IN HIM IS MY SALVATION. Singing as I read that Psalm.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Hi Robin!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Hi 👋

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Just wondering why you have blocked me from your Substack, Abiding - I find this link you shared to be VERY comprehensive. Explain why the "block" to my Substack identity??

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

And the prayers of the saints are ALWAYS heard by Jehovah Jireh!! He indeed does "provide" peace in the night!!

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Amen amen Sharon!

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CitizenA's avatar

I wanted to hit ❤️ LIKE on this. The problem I’m having, and I wonder if anyone else is experiencing it is yesterday and today my LIKES will no longer register. I’ve tried rebooting my tablet, and checking my settings but nope, nothing I do will show up as I LIKED a post. Know that I do like this post very much.

Anyone else experiencing this problem? How did you fix it, if you did?

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Sometimes it glitches. That's my only input. :)

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CitizenA's avatar

I have read further down the comment section and noticed several people mentioning the same problem of the “malfunctioning LIKE❤️ button.” One said he had the same problem on a different Substack. So I’m wondering if it’s a Substack problem.

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Susan Banks's avatar

Yes Janice!!!

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Valerie's avatar

I don’t know who else is in Houston, but I am and those storms were FREAKY on Thursday. We have tremendous thunderstorms here, it’s not unusual, but I’ve lived here since 1995 and I can’t remember actual tornados touching down (the one tornado that did touch down this week was in my oldest sons area, the rest were straight line winds). We get tornado watches with thunderstorms on occasion, but we’ve now had 2 touch down about 3 weeks apart and that’s never happened in the almost 30 years I’ve lived here. I’m pretty sure we have the jerks attempting to manipulate the weather -with only the best of intentions of course - to thank for it. How about you idiots stop trying to play God? Us normies would appreciate it.

Also, as I’m still without power, I’m about to go to the gym to get a hot shower and do my whole hair thing. Wish me luck. 😂

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Julie Ann B's avatar

My son also lives in Houston and fortunately sustained no injuries or damage from the tornado and storms. We live in extreme times. Get right with God; repent, confess Jesus as your Lord and Savior and be saved by the grace and mercy freely given to us through Jesus.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I try to remember that no matter how old we are, our life experiences including weather patterns are a blip on the radar when compared to the entirety of existence. I try to take weather issues with a grain of salt. I like to listen to Joe Bastardi when it comes to weather issues.

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Tom's avatar

I was just thinking about the Book of Job. It applies. Blip on the radar.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I often wonder what the weather was like before the great flood with Noah. Before that catastrophic weather event (greatest understatement ever), there had never been any rain.

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Austin's avatar

Wow....Joe Bastardi. I'll be Jeff could work with that.

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Credenda's avatar

It’s like that lawyer Pecker. The jokes practically write themselves.

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AngelaK's avatar

I actually don't know who that is and thought it was a Joe Biden epithet.

I feel for the real person. Cannot imagine the fun kids had in school with his otherwise lovely flowing Italian name!

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AngelaK's avatar

It reminds me of a cartoon character in the 60s whose name was Dick Dastardly. I was laughing about him to my cousins in the back of their station wagon when my uncle pulled over and got angry at me for saying a 'bad word'. He obviously thought I said 'bastardly'! 🤷

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆

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Robin Greer's avatar

Yes, Jeff could definitely work with that.

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Pat's avatar

The only problem with their solar storm story is that it is not true. This is what they were doing on those aurora sky events. I wonder when if ever people are going to wake up and stop believing the narratives.

High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is based in Alaska and it's a high-power, high frequency (HF) transmitter for studying the ionosphere.  The principal instrument is a phased array of 180 HF crossed-dipole antennas  capable of radiating 3.6 megawatts  into the upper atmosphere and ionosphere.  Transmit frequencies are selectable in the range of 2.7 to 10 MHz.

The research team have announced that they will be carrying out tests from the 8th to the 10th of May 2024.

https://ei7gl.blogspot.com/2024/05/notice-upcoming-haarp-ionospheric-tests.html

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Frances Lynch's avatar

THAT is interesting! Thanks for the link.

Ever since Paradise CA I have been watching "natural disasters" unfold at a very brisk clip, all very odd, all catastrophic, all strategic in nature.

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Paige Green's avatar

LOL!!!

Questionable name, but a smart man.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Love Joe!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I do the same!

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Steve's avatar

Joe Bastardi has a video update every Saturday at the bottom of the home page!

https://www.weatherbell.com/

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Robin Greer's avatar

Thanks for sharing. I'll have to check that out.

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Karen Walby Ph. D.'s avatar

The pandemic failed so now they are going to push climate change emergency to give them power to control us.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

They are not God, only pretenders as long as God allows. They too shall die. God cannot die.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Good luck. This is dreadful for you snd other Houstonians.

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Betsy Frost's avatar

I lived in Houston years ago and still have friends in the area. One friend who lives in Montrose had tornado damage to her home a few years back. If I recall correctly there was a spate of small tornadoes that hit the city then. It is not entirely unheard of in Houston.

The pictures of downtown and broken windows remind me of Hurrican Alicia back in 1983.

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Kim's avatar

True, but an EF-1 seems unusual for us. I've been in the area for decades and have never been through anything like this. We usually get tiny funnel clouds.

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Valerie's avatar

Yes, broken windows are pretty common. I don’t remember the tornados, though.

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AngelaK's avatar

I was just talking to my son who is in Houston in an apartment building. First of all, thank you God that he is ok and that he was not commuting that day as he does most days. He said it suddenly got dark, windy, and whole trees were flying by his apartment windows (12th floor floor).

He said that he went to hide in a closet in the guest room (most inner room in apt). His bldg is still running electricity on generator..no warm water, but that is no biggie in comparison to Air Condition I would assume. Losing air here in S. Florida is my biggest worry. No power means no fans either.

After a perfect and gorgeous paradise like April, we are in a huge heat wave the likes I don't remember in the 10 years I am here, especially in May. It is 97 degrees outside today.

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Kim's avatar

I'm in Cypress and we got power last night. I hope you get power back soon!

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Valerie's avatar

I’m in cypress too, but no luck for me yet.

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Kim's avatar

Let me know if you need anything since we are neighbors 🙂

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Valerie's avatar

Thank you! What a kind offer. Many of my friends have power, so I have options, though.

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Kim's avatar
May 18Edited

Good to know! I wlll say this, people here are very generous.

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Valerie's avatar

Speaking of which, one of my neighbors rescued a group of baby ducks, like tiny newborns after the storm that were waterlogged. All but 2 made it. Another neighbor saved a group of baby red tailed hawks and got them to the wildlife rescue place.

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Valerie's avatar

Extremely. Texas is wonderful, has a great culture.

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AngelaK's avatar

How hot is it there now?

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Kim's avatar

Yes it’s not terrible but it’s about to be. Last week the humidity was as high as 99%

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Valerie's avatar

My phone says 88°. Supposed to be 90-92 for highs this week.

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Austin's avatar

And the Texas power outage is severe: https://poweroutage.us/

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Sherry's avatar

My nephew is in Houston and he and his family are once again trying to help his neighbors who have been flooded, now twice in the last few years. His house is apparently a little lifted up but his neighbors always seem to get clobbered.

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Valerie's avatar

I didn’t realize anyone flooded, that’s horrible.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Good luck!!! Don't forget the hair conditioner!

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LW's avatar

Good luck! Hope you were successful.

AND …I can bounce for the 30 years before year 30 years there to be ditto …no tornadoes.

Abundant rainfall, but not floods. There was hurricane Carla in 1960? And probably one or two others.

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Kim's avatar

Franklin O’Kanu I agree with you on the weather warfare. I was in the path of the EF-1 tornado in Cypress. I’ve lived in SE Tx all my life and have only seen one storm that was close to what we experienced Thursday evening. I had never heard the term “derecho” before this storm. That was the strangest and scariest storm I’ve experienced. And I’ve been through hurricanes before. One minute it was daytime and the next it went black, literally looked like night time. Huge hail, howling winds, and the tornado appeared out of nowhere. People were caught completely off guard with little time to prepare. This was not natural. I’m gonna say it felt a lot like warfare, climate warfare and spiritual warfare.

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Austin's avatar

I knew someone once who told me she had a client who was CIA. He told her that they manipulate the weather ALL. THE. TIME.....especially for political reasons.

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Kim's avatar

I used to think that was a ridiculous notion but now I absolutely believe it!

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AngelaK's avatar

So why are they manipulating it negatively?

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Kim's avatar

I imagine the same reason they wanted everyone jabbed.

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AngelaK's avatar

Evil.

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YYR's avatar

Paging Sandy... Hurricane Sandy.

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NAB's avatar

That sounds terrifying. I'm glad you are okay!

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Remember what the US did to Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, they used weather warfare to cause torrential rain, washing entire villages away. That was in the late 60's.

Imagine what they have to work with 50+ years later? Where do you suspect that $27+ trillions missing from the Pentagon budget actually went?

https://commonsenseevaluation.com/2023/06/20/operation-popeye-the-secret-weather-warfare-program/

Results?

"Starting on March 20th, 1967 and allegedly concluding on July 5th, 1972, more than 11,000 canisters of rain-producing silver iodide or lead iodide were dropped on the aforementioned countries, (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos) increasing rainfall by 30% (2) and doing immeasurable damage to their environments... And their peoples.

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Special Ted's avatar

Research the patents on weather manipulation, here’s an example:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030085296A1/en

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Peace's avatar

Has the patent king, David Martin, said anything about patents o weather manipulation?

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Valerie's avatar

Yes! This is it exactly.

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Kim's avatar

Alex Jones suspects weather manipulation and has experts who predicted it explain here.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1eaKbgQwPaqGX

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Kim's avatar

Starts around 40 minute mark.

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Kim's avatar

And here is the expert’s video banned on TikTok:

https://x.com/in2thinair/status/1791463013213421886?s=46

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Kim's avatar

So, I was watching some footage of downtown Houston from a sky cam on a building. I couldn't believe that I saw a flash of a red laser beam from the sky to the ground as the storm was rolling into downtown. I wish I could show you. My husband wasn't impressed but I sure wish I could share here.

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Michael Fee's avatar

Do people ever wonder why we need to declare a 'state of emergency'?

Hint: It isn't good.

People think: The governor is swinging into action.

'Emergency' is the excuse for our government to ignore laws meant to restrain it.

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Sunlover's avatar

In Canada, the past 4 years have made it abundantly clear that “states of emergency” are not about health or safety, but all about the mechanism to circumvent our constitution and deny our charter of individual rights and freedoms. The courts have been siding with the govt actions and this does not bode well for our future. I know Jeff likes to take the optimistic view, but here in Canada, my opinion is that we are going to see further erosions to our personal sovereignty unless a miracle occurs and even a change in govt probably won’t stop it. The propaganda and brainwashing has been very effective.

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Peter Schott's avatar

When used by good/moral people, it makes sense. Cut through the normal bureaucracy to help people quickly. When used by those who aren't so moral ... yeah, it can get bad quickly. :(

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Carrie's avatar

I thought during Covid emergencies, we should pressure our states and local communities to push for amendments to emergency powers, stating that an executive could never use emergency powers to limit personal freedoms or limit business operations, emergency declarations should only be for the purpose of lifting red tape.

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JSR's avatar

And to grab the $$$

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

No one on congress seems to care about trying to reverse the bogus 'state of emergency'.

Even the conservatives. We KNOW the liberals are scum...

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Amy Wright's avatar

It sucks, yeah, but the state of emergency is how they can get aid to residents such as FEMA and certain tax benefits. It is meant to help the citizens, but yes, it can be abused.

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RayS's avatar

It could actually be to access emergency funds. Just a thought. Whoosh! There it goes.

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Robin Greer's avatar

So thankful that Abbott pardoned Daniel. I hope that Daniel Penny is not convicted and I hope that both of these men have legal options to strike back at those who have maliciously prosecuted them.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I thought he did already. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.

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Jenn's avatar

He did run one for that guy. I remember that story.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

I missed it Jenn.

THANK YOU!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Thanks. Jenn updated me. ❤️

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Peter Schott's avatar

I was glad to read about Perry's pardon. For those who may not follow Texas stuff, the reason Abbott didn't just pardon him is because the governor cannot issue a pardon that isn't approved/reviewed by the Pardon/Appeals Board. Kind of a check/balance to make sure that the governor isn't issuing pardons to people who are completely guilty. Also good to see that the woke Austin DA may be under some more fire. While I can respect Soros' strategy to nullify the rule of law and order by buying DAs, I think that tide is finally turning. Slowly, but turning.

I was also glad to see the mask ruling reining in the FAA. So much silliness there with cramming people in a giant tin can, claiming their air filters are amazing, but not so amazing that healthy people can go without a mask. I already hate flying and TSA's security theater, but avoided anything requiring it at all during that time with the over-zealous mask fanatics. Maybe eventually all of this will be a note in history of "masks were a bad thing" but there are still far too many people who think they actually do something useful. :(

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Dr Linda's avatar

It boggles my mind that people still believe that masks do any good.

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CeeMcG's avatar

Made the mistake yesterday of following a Twitter/X rabbit hole thread on #longcovid and all these people who are still wearing N95 masks all the time, everywhere. And they want everyone else masked up around them. They were upset about NYC Mayor Eric Adams wanting to ban masks. I figure, if you feel you still have Covid that you caught in 2020, what is the point of still wearing a mask? Afraid you’ll catch it again? Just my $.02 but the whole “long covid” thing sounds most like vax injuries. Makes me wonder how these folks managed prior to 2020?

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

No worries, the people that are still pushing masks are fully jabbed and boosted and will not be with us for much longer...

https://veryvirology.substack.com/p/igg4-antibody-class-switch-end-of

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Both my brother and former best friend have had a variety of weird rashes/psoriasis/systemic yeast infections/thrush/allergies and heaven knows what else. Both at least 3X vaccinated but still can’t or won’t make the connection to the shots, even though they’ve never had anything like this in their lives before.

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Dr Linda's avatar

That's a great question. How did they manage?

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Susan Seas's avatar

Last week a lady in my Bible study wore a mask. ( I may have lost some respect for her in a hot second) I believe the story is she was not sick but her husband tested positive 🙄 he’s a Doctor so … 🤦🏼‍♀️

Loosing Hope lately, seriously! 😖

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

The PCR test has been 100% debunked... in fact, it contains some serious toxins...

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Susan Seas's avatar

OH I KNOW!! 💯 %!!! I never thought they worked from day 1, But some people are still clueless idiots. 🥴

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

Yes, I took 2 of them, had to, prior to a surgery that was cancelled... I did spray some H2O2 up my nose before and after... I hope it worked!

thank God I didn't take the death-jabs!!

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Yes, and they are using them on chickens to determine if they have bird flu. The scams (and slaughter) never end with these people.

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NinaG's avatar

Heh. There were several women wearing masks at my BSF class, ALL YEAR! They were the Chinese women too.

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Dr Linda's avatar

arrggghhhh!!

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Peter Schott's avatar

The masking message was pushed _hard_ by just about every "expert" out there. At the beginning we had some quack who showed how easy it was to put on a mask and "protect others" to our church. I suppose he's otherwise respected as a doctor, but that was just nonsense and he added some level of authority to it. Sadly, he's also been moved up to a county government medical advisor/whatever so more weight gets added to that sort of advice. :(

Even today my mom still opines that "if only they'd been wearing a mask" some people wouldn't have gotten sick. She got hit _hard_ by that psyop. I've made it pretty clear where I stand on the uselessness of masks and especially for people who are healthy or non-symptomatic.

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Fred's avatar

Don’t forget the severely immunocompromised and that N95 masks actually block odors. Truth to those who don’t know; that’s how they test the fit.

And if someone is ill, masking possibly lessens the droplet transmission.

We’ve turned masking into a sort of reverse discrimination, and I don’t like any of it. Freedom rules!

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Jade Dixon's avatar

Yep. Not having a headache from perfumes and air fresheners is one of the things I miss about wearing my N95 and why I sometimes consider doing it again. I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to stink, just let me wear an N95 so I can still breathe if they enter the grocery store.

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Fred's avatar

Sorry Jade. FSR, it won't let me 'like' your post, but I do!

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Fred's avatar

Just one example! TY! Live and let live, I say. No bans, no mandates.

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Gaye's avatar

It boggles mine that they EVER thought it! Apparently never saw the original patent or listened to current qualified PPE technicians. Spit and blood is about all that’s controlled in near-useless tie-on masks. As was intended.

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YYR's avatar

Masks are proven effective at insuring one's identity during Antifa/anti-Istael/BLM riots.

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Dr Linda's avatar

You're right! They do sere a purpose : )

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

This is an explanation I can get behind. Now when I see someone wearing a mask, I figure their brain has been hijacked. https://rumble.com/v4ndvhn-the-indoctrinated-brain-tucker-carlson-interviews-dr.-michael-nehls.html

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Jaci's avatar

There's a woman at the pool who is masked and googled. I haven't seen her lately.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Drowned possibly? (no I am not serious)

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Dr Linda's avatar

Good gravy! So sad to hear

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Jenn's avatar

I really do not see the reason to have TSA anymore. There is zero purpose if folks can enter our borders against our laws. Once the Rule of Law is broken, there is no use for enforcement for any laws. The feds did this. So why are they still trying to use TSA? This is a real question for me. I have always been a good little rule follower but I don't see the reason for all the federal laws if they don't uphold ALL of them. And folks operating under state laws would have the same issue if the state enable sanctuary activities, right? In other words, why have laws if they are not enforcing them? I am certainly anti anarchy, I just have fundamental questions for the current enforcement/non-enforcement of federal law.

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Robin Greer's avatar

The whole TSA thing is a farce. It's like standing in front of a classroom and lecturing the whole class about something when only one child is the one at fault and that one child isn't listening while you are scolding the entire class. Since they mostly aggravate old people and handicapped people, it does seem quite pointless.

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Fred's avatar

Not sure why I can't 'like' posts today. Good point though, and they have separate lines at the airports for the illegals. No screening whatsoever. SMH in disgust.

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CitizenA's avatar

Me too. I haven’t been able to LIKE posts for two days now. Maybe it’s something quirky going on with Substack, or maybe there is some setting that Jeff can check into. ???

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I had that problem for two days. Unable to “like” any posts. Weird.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Very good point

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

The purpose of mask requirements: (a) to determine how far government can push citizens before [some] citizens push back (b) to identify those who quickly comply [social pressure] vs those who do not (c) to identify which methods work "best". I think most of those who did (and continue to) wear masks are signaling their virtue - "Look at me! I'm protecting YOU!" - and that very few question the effectiveness of the action.

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Jaci's avatar

Masks cause future breathing issues, especially in the elderly!

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CHop's avatar

North Carolina now doesnt like masks again. Early on, lawyers were saying masking was a bad idea and here they are. What makes me laugh is that this is just an old law being reignited:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4666792-north-carolina-could-ban-face-masks-for-medical-reasons-in-public/

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CM Seppy's avatar

2024 continues to not disappoint!!

After reading today’s C&C, you might say 2024’s “Panda-monium.”

(Play on word PANDEMONIUM)

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

We might be experiencing weather warfare in TX similar. I'm hearing those tornadoes came out of nowhere. Climate change is really climate warfare: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-hidden-profits-of-climate-change

PS: Whenever I hear of space, I always think we need to seriously look into the theory of a Flat Earth as well and how that ties into Biblical truth: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-spirituality-of-flat-earth

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Politico Phil's avatar

Here in the Florida panhandle yesterday, the weather system was moving just north of us toward the northeast. You could easily follow it on the weather radar. From my vantage point, I could clearly see repeated lines of chemtrails being dispersed just to our north in the direction of the weather system. You know, I'm convinced we have no more rights than the serfs did in the Dark Ages who were ruled by the local overlords.

And in Tenn where they actually passed a law against chemtrail spraying, they have had clear skies ever since. WHY can't DeSantis go against TPTB on the issues of the death-jab bioweapon and the chemtrail spraying that is degrading our health and our environment............WHY?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C69owQEyRb7/?igsh=YzlsbjJhbDFnMXls

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Except… no… the spraying is constant here in East Tennessee… no clear skies here… also, TN Bill SB 2691 doesn’t take effect until July, the question is, how will Tennessee stop the planes and drones?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Darn! I do wonder, how do they propose to enforce such a ban? Seriously, are they going to deploy SAMS?

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Right! Honestly we have the same questions… it is warfare given the cocktail of chems being sprayed on every living breathing being…

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Special Ted's avatar

‘Like’ button keeps reversing, don’t know why. Please post this again as an original comment!

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Frances Lynch's avatar

This link is bout citrus pectin??

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

How about get the airplane's ID, look up the owner and fine them?

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Politico Phil's avatar

The "Like" button has not been working for me this morning... Wierd.

That's a good start. The only problem is I believe most of these flights, if not all of them, are military aircraft or military contracted aircraft. I would love to see a state try to fine the US military. I even saw one non-military aircraft with nozzels under the wings landing at our local Tyndall AFB.

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SadieJay's avatar

Mine either. No likes for you!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

My “like” button hasn’t worked mostly for two days but seems to work fine this afternoon.

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CMCM's avatar

I've noticed a non-working "like" button not only here but on numerous other substacks in the last few days. Yes...weird.

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Quiltlady's avatar

I have found that if I click the like button once and then wait several seconds, it finally works. I guess I needed a lesson in patience.

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AB's avatar

I can like y’all just fine :)

Yes, as I said below, in Florida it’s military. Scary to be honest because what is the recourse?

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CitizenA's avatar

My LIKE ❤️ button stopped working two days ago.

A few days prior to that it would accept the LIKE and then magically just remove itself.

Frustrating.

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Fred's avatar

Still skeptical (not of geoengineering, but that every trail is a part of it), but if you care, Flightradar24 app tells you exactly what plane, tail number, origin, destination, altitude, knot speed and more.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

That might be interesting...

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AB's avatar

I have heard that the technology on today’s planes assures that there are no actual contrails.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

And a wave of Joe's F15s.

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AB's avatar

We have looked into spraying here in Florida and it was next to impossible to find any record of a commercial application, which points to this being military. It’ll be very hard to stop :(

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Penny's Ponderings's avatar

A friend and I watched 2 planes spraying in Georgia one evening recently. You can often see them fly straight up, which he said indicated it was a military plane. He was in the Air Force.

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AB's avatar

I’ve seen them parked at the local naval base :(

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Penny's Ponderings's avatar

How do you know they are the planes that are laying the chemtrails?

Which base is it?

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Dr Linda's avatar

I was pondering the same

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SadieJay's avatar

Or stop the wind from blowing the crap over the state from the next state where it is allowed?

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Penny's Ponderings's avatar

I first heard of this bill a couple months ago. I wondered then how they would enforce it.

They fly so high up that how are you going to see its ID number on the tail?

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AB's avatar

That was my very first thought! Geo engineering! Look up people!

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Robin Greer's avatar

The law doesn't go into effect until July. 😞 It's been too cloudy to tell lately. But remind me and I'll keep you posted as to whether we are still seeing them.

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Jaci's avatar

I have written to DeSantis about the trails. The trails here are now very different. There are no xes in the skies.

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Gaye's avatar

When you see pentagrams pleas let us know

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SadieJay's avatar

Liked. No shit right? Pentagrams! So funny, but not funny. Thanks for that. I fully expect it. Soon. I actually saw the words I AM in the skies. I took a photo. And I also saw a cross inside a shield in the skies. Seriously. And I am not writing this from a mental hospital. I am the sanest person you will ever meet.

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Politico Phil's avatar

God help us when the truly rational look insane.

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banjocat's avatar

“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.” St Anthony the Great

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Gaye's avatar

Wait. They already have.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I wrote to DeSantis also.

All the chemtrails I've seen lately have been mostly parallel lines. But it takes a conscious effort to remember to look up when out and about.

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AB's avatar

I always look up. The spraying has changed lately here in NE Florida. There is a permanent ‘blanket’ at a high altitude that makes even a clear day slightly milky looking. This is as stressful for me as I imagine prison would be. ‘They’ are taking away our connection to nature, God, the universe, something greater that was always visible right above us. It’s terrifying.

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SadieJay's avatar

I e-mailed my legislator here in Idaho through this website. She sent me a letter back. Said she would look into it next session, blah blah. But worth a try.

https://zerogeoengineering.com/take-action-usa/#FSContact2

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AB's avatar

We got the same: look into it after elections in November (NE Florida)

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Frances Lynch's avatar

There were some videos of weather maps I saw showing odd, round, dark areas sending out electrical charges in patterns similar to a garden rake into storm clouds. Once done the storms immediately increased in size and force. Wish I had saved it :(

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Politico Phil's avatar

Interesting. That sounds like how HAARP is described to operate.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Yes the person who linked the video as well as the fellow who made it thought the same.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

“ Climate change is really climate warfare.” Nailed it. #Truth

Here is very interesting article on flat earth. The author of the article doesn’t take a stance on whether the Earth is flat or not. He only highlights how many military documents and NASA documents seem to claim the earth is flat. 🧐

https://open.substack.com/pub/chemtrails/p/flat-earth-military-documents?r=qbe9u&utm_medium=ios

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Politico Phil's avatar

Space aliens and flat earth theory are two subjects I have segregated to a corner of my mind labeled "Pay No Attention". To me, these are psyops distractions along with European wars and transgender rights. We are facing catastrophic issues with the potential violence of this coming summer, the failure of the fall elections and the massive invasion of 30+ million across our INTENTIONALLY open border. I have no time for distracting fantasies.

We all need to watch this. It's only 24 minutes....................................................

The Civil War Has Begun— Alex Jones

https://rumble.com/v4usehf-breaking-the-civil-war-has-begun-discover-the-globalist-kill-list.html

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Tom's avatar

I have crossed the Atlantic with a navigator on board the airplane who used celestial navigation for practice and to back up other systems. (I'm old.) The entire system relies on the fact that the earth is round. The math is built around this fact. I had even run the math myself, in training. If the earth isn't round, it wouldn't have worked, and with relative precision.

"Flat earth" is a psyop, meant to discredit its adherents. It's based on taking observational language from the Bible and making it literal.

If one says "the sun rose this morning," it does not indicate belief that the sun is in motion around a heliocentric earth. One is merely reporting, observationally, what one saw.

God is well aware of how we use language. Perhaps an inability to distinguish metaphor from the literal will become a more critical measure of whether one is communicating what he has learned under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

When it's more about being right than discerning the truth, Pride is involved.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Very well stated. Thank you!

This has been my exact issue with all the doomsday, end-times rapture (escapist) theology interpretation of Scripture. The inability of modern day American Christians to understand the Biblical metaphors used throughout the Bible because they do not understand the imagery used by God, especially in the OT and relied upon by the NT writers, is appalling. Instead, modern day Christians resort to a "literal" childlike interpretation of Scripture informed, not by the Word, but by current news headlines. It's sad.

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Tom's avatar

I'm at a point where I'm suspicious of those who rely on something said by a "well respected" figure to put forth a message that will be embraced by those looking for answers.

What does THE WORD say?

1 Corinthians 3:18-19

"Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is folly with God."

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Beautifully confirmed on the flip side of that coin. “The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit” (1 Corinthians 2:14). It’s been said, “We can’t reason our way to God.” Yep. Only the Spirit can show us the Way.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Amen

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SadieJay's avatar

Heart all these comments. Sheesh.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

How blessed we are to have you good brethren, who understand all the Scriptures and set us wrong thinkers straight. Some of us rely on the Holy Spirit. After all Jesus said, “ But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.” (John 14:26). His help seems quite necessary; given that the apostle Paul wrote, “For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully, just as I also have been fully known.” If Paul saw dimly, imagine what poor vision I have!

But you special cases see it all, know it all and are happy to share to straighten the rest of us out. Such generosity is seldom seen.

But I do wonder about your assuredness of your understanding of the ‘imagery of God’ throughout all the Word. It seems that perhaps you smudge and invent imaginative meanings in places that don’t fit your particular ‘Christian’ narrative, especially in the case of the writings of the Old Testament prophecies. Making things kind of fuzzy, wuzzy; like impressionist artists. And it’s not clear whether you believe in a real physical second coming of Christ, as described in the Old and New Testament, or you believe it already occurred and some of us just didn’t get how that was just meant to be all symbolic.

None the less, like all the good Pharisees, you can be commended for the absolute certainty of your interpretation. In the meantime, I, who have read through the Bible forty years in a row and have never failed to score at least 98% in reading comprehension on every test I’ve taken over my 73 years, will continue to watch the signs Jesus gave us. They grow clearer by the day.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Please keep us posted so we don't miss it. I am willing to wait and see.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

I think the end times vision (minus the Rapture) is a memory of the last time that the sun ran a mini nova about 12,000 years ago.

What is described as the 4 horsemen ties into the series of events around a mini nova. Throw in a pole reversal event and Bob's your uncle.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ

https://x.com/SunWeatherMan

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Politico Phil's avatar

Okaaaaay.... Don't even know what to make of that.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Cool experience, Tom. In the Aubrey-Maturin novels by Patrick O'Brian, of the British navy in the Napoleonic War era, Captain Aubrey talks of his late-developing love of mathematics, once he understood the practicality of it for celestial navigation.

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Tom's avatar

Those books! Hollywood could never do them justice. They tried.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I do wish it had been a TV series, instead of a mash-up of some of them into one plot. I'm in a FB group called something like The Patrick O'Brian Appreciation Society, and some of the film-makers are in it. I feel sorry for them, as they explain why they were forced into the choices they made. They did do a ton of research on historicity, and they did their best to make it such that the historians wouldn't find fault. The ship is still docked, maybe in San Diego, somewhere in California, at any rate, and there's a constant request for funds to try to maintain her. Maybe now with the ability to create AI-generated 'film,' people will create such a 'TV' series, and if that one doesn't suit, then someone else will create a different one. I'm in the middle of re-reading the series right now, as way to escape our current reality for a bit each evening.

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L  Young's avatar

Flat earth talk was funny and diverting 10 years ago. It had the same feel as the 30 year old man walking around dressed in full Darth Vader costume. I don’t think it’s funny anymore. The bandwidth is so clogged the media never even gets around to asking the why questions.

Why are we encouraging and facilitating illegals to flood the country?

Is it good for the country?

How has this policy worked out in Europe?

Are the people in Europe happy that their leadership forced the same type of immigration craziness on them or are they as perplexed as we are?

Just ignore any flat earth talk you’re just feeding the beast.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Amen.

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Tom's avatar

The bandwidth. An astute observation. The signal-to-noise ratio is being used to manipulate the masses.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly right. The CIA psyops is unending.

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SadieJay's avatar

Naomi mentioned something on her podcast about the bandwidth and 422 Gigs vs. 435 or something. I am not electronic but I will have to look that one up. She said that all sound and music was created at a lower level before sometime in the 20th century. Now it is higher...or something. Admitting my total ignorance on this subject, but the manipulation aspect is no surprise.

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Tom's avatar

It's more about the ratio of nonsense to truth.

We are flooded with "truthy" nonsense.

The 1% lie embedded in the 99% truth.

One drop of poison ruins the whole cup.

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L  Young's avatar

Trans

Space aliens

Furries

Etc…….

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Tom's avatar

As it was in the days of Noah.

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AB's avatar

Hubby and I just watched this video. Way to start a Sunday morning. I am flipping between a deer frozen in headlights and a let’s continue our normal lives attitude (not a prepper unfortunately). It’ll be the end of life as we know it with no ‘America’ to go to. Well, getting ready for church now. Thanks for your contributions Phil! I’m glad you are also in Florida. Maybe federalism will be the saving grace?

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Politico Phil's avatar

If it goes this way, we are going to be forced to band together in our communities with others we can trust and support each other. Much as it was before mass communication and mass transit. Something to cultivate now.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Thanks for this comment! Very helpful information!

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Jpeach's avatar

Climate Engineering and MSM propaganda are fueling the Climate Change Hoax. Just as Gain of Function and MSM propaganda fuel the Pandemic Hoax. Big Money in these Hoaxes.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Perhaps the climate change hoax is their cover for a far, far more serious event, a sun min nova. That is what this fellow feels is coming, decide for yourself. They have occurred before, run in 12,000 year cycles (see videos at link).

Remember that Aztec calendar scare of a few years ago, it may have been off by a few years....because a mini nova is what it suggests.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I am a globe believer, but I bought two books recently. One supporting the sphere and one supporting flat. I had a family at our academy who firmly believe flat.we have had some interesting conversations I am anxious the see what is said about it all.

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Special Ted's avatar

Kudos to you for investigating all sides! May I suggest the Bible as a resource?

Light was created Day One, but the sun and moon were created Day Four, for example. (Genesis 1:3, 1:16)

Grace and peace to you…

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Tom's avatar

God has TOLD us in His Word.

Where was I when He laid the foundations of the earth? To Him, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day. Who was there, when He laid the foundations of the earth, that reckoned time in the same way?

I will not darken His counsel with words without understanding. I fail often enough, but He is sovereign.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Thought experiment: Imagine a light bulb of standard construction hung one foot above a gym floor as the only illumination for that room. If the light is on is there anywhere on that floor where it would not be visible?

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Smart.

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

HAARP is real...

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Austin's avatar

How does flat earth NOT fly in the face of physics?

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Special Ted's avatar

There are patents for weather creation/modification for anyone interested. Here’s one example:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030085296A1/en

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Shona Duncan collected a boatload of documents in this substack… it’s a keeper to be archived. Lots of information on weather warfare and geoenineering aka chemtrails https://shonaduncan.substack.com/p/covert-weapons-and-technology

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KPCon's avatar

I'm sorry, what?

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mary's avatar

Where do I go to become a subscriber to your stack, Franklin?

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Elaine Parsley's avatar

Can't help but feel like I'm reading the prelude to Revelation (last book of Bible) when reading today's C&C.... magnetic field weakening and resulting phenomenon, 100 m/hr thunderstorms in Houston....and that's just the "weather" part of the big picture right now.

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Tom's avatar

Two things:

Nothing is a surprise to God, who knew the end from the beginning.

He loves you so much that He sent His only Son, who laid down His life for you, so don't let these things trouble you (one of my favorite commandments these days.)

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Special Ted's avatar

Christians who are ‘afraid’ are not trusting in the promises of God. Only those willing to die for Jesus are following his teachings. The rest are hoping for ‘fire insurance’ and clinging to this life. They are lukewarm, and will not appreciate the coming judgement.

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Tom's avatar

I have plenty of this still to work out.

"Put to death the deeds of the flesh."

Indeed.

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Michael Miller's avatar

The detention of the crew of the ship that hit the bridge is concerning. Confined for 2 months? All of their cell phones are confiscated? Are they charged with a crime? The erosion of personal rights and the ability of authorities to abrogate them at will is alarming. The fourth amendment secures persons against unreasonable searches, and seizures. They must have a warrant to search or seize property. Who will advocate for this crew?

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KBB's avatar

If they are not US citizens and have "visa problems" then they don't have any constitutional rights. Maybe some are on the terrorist list? Maybe hitting the bridge was an inside job? My conspiracy theorist brain could overheat and melt down over the possibilities.

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Chris Kanon's avatar

ianal but it seems most of the constitution applies also to non-citizens within the united states: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-constitutional-rights-do-undocumented-immigrants-have

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JW's avatar

Has a J6 ring to it.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Were j6 charged with anything?

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KBB's avatar

I believe the most common charge is trespassing. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has been charged with "insurrection."

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Tom's avatar

Their ability to perceive anomalous patterns in what should have been a naturally occurring sum of votes is "very dangerous to 'our democracy.'"

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

We can’t be trusted with that information. It’s an ongoing investigation until the Kennedy files are released. But I do have a prediction: There will be a new port in Gaza before we rebuild the Pelican Island bridge. Probably because we have very hard water in Texas.

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A.J.'s avatar

It's all about launding taxpayers' cash. Just like US Secretary of State Stettinius who got the USA in WW2 to build a big port in Liberia and once he left US government service started a company to switch cargo ships around the world to the el-cheapo Liberian flag from his new shipping registry office in northern Virginia which with exclusive rights to Liberian shipping flags quickly decimated the US Merchant Marine business. Good video about this by Johnny Harris. https://youtu.be/K7XKmrGwmgY

Coinkydink his brother-in-law was Juan Trippe, the founder of Pan Am, who got a secret 1930s US government contract to build airliner seaplane bases at Midway, Wake, Guam and the Philippines. FWIW, the US Navy's private contractors hired in late 1940 to build Navy facilities including runways on those islands were within days of punching through the Wake Atoll to create a submarine base when the Pearl Harbor attack happened.

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Peace's avatar

Reasonable Horses - your last line made lol for real!

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Art's avatar

The fbi gets involved and then people are held indefinitely without due process or bond. Yep, sounds familiar. If their visas are expired, why not let just them fly home?

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

Because they might be involved in a terrorist attack.

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Tom's avatar

There was an immediate declaration that this was not an attack, but 2 months later, suspicions remain that there might have been "negligence."

Riiiiight . . .

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

Once we deport ALL illegals from this country... their presence is a huge violation of all American Citizen's rights... we can discuss.

The crew members are ILLEGALS, not Citizens and may be involved in a terrorist attack.

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Special Ted's avatar

SubStack still not allowing me to like your comments. The deportation of illegals won’t ever happen. They’re here now and we knew this was coming. Deportation requires govt action, so forget about it. We are back to Revolutionary times, where action requires our personal involvement.

But we won’t get involved, because we have too many liabilities. If the govt decided to stop allowing us our many ‘freedoms’ most of America would comply. They already proved that, with Covid. We are soon to realize that the ‘next’ stand we choose was already chosen back in 2020, when normies first learned about Covid. We are on a trajectory that cannot be altered.

Prayer to a Holy God is our only hope for change. Anything else is futile.

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Copernicus's avatar

Exactly.

This is what traffickers do. Not saying F B I is trafficking. Am saying that removing people’s abilities to move freely and to communicate is most often done not for good purposes.

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Susan Seas's avatar

What was among the cargo? We may never know but it may not be regular stuff.

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Chef Sherry's avatar

Just throwing this out there. Could there have been some biological/biowarfare hazard in the damaged cargo and the crew is actually being quarantined and monitored, sort of like a floating test lab? That sure would explain their phones being confiscated and their being cut off from any contact with the outside world (or closely supervised and coached with limited contact).

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Penny's Ponderings's avatar

There was some hazardous waste onboard and some leaked.

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John Galt (MAHA/MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, China is dumping treasuries due to the threat of unilateral sanctions. Also, they need more gold to shore up the "Unit", the new trading currency soon to be revealed from BRICS. While the dollar may retain its role as the default reserve currency, THE USA's ability to monetize its debt is rapidly fading. America's ability to wage war via inflation is diminishing, as it should. My advice: stack gold. Stack Bitcoin. Stack ammo. Stack skills. Stack health. It has been a good run, but the USA's role as global hegemon is fading fast.

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sempervirens's avatar

Our geopolitical policies have done so much damage to the world and our country, I’m almost happy to see a multipolar political world environment

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John Galt (MAHA/MAGA)'s avatar

"Exorbitant Privilege" is the term the De Gaulle used about the dollar. We have abused it, and we will soon pay a price. Everyone thinks in terms of their life experience, but economic powerhouses tend to run 100 years or so, making this unthinkable to the population. Assume the worst and prepare to endure. You may even prosper as a result. You have been warned.

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Albert Steed's avatar

But what is your ops margin?

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John Galt (MAHA/MAGA)'s avatar

kickin' ass, bruh!

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Jeff, you mentioned you had technical difficulties yesterday…can I join THAT “Me, Too” movement? My cell phone is the key to my Tesla, and it absolutely refused to connect yesterday. I tried everything - disconnecting, reconnecting, resetting Bluetooth, on and on and on. Then my tech genius of a husband asked me to reboot my phone, and that did the trick. But I think those solar flares are messing with us! And please don’t judge me for driving a Tesla. I got sick of regular car maintenance, and Tesla is the lowest maintenance car I have ever owned lol. We also have a gas powered SUV and a Harley. And we love them all!

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

You are riding around, sitting on radiation generated by those batteries... but less maintence...

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Susan Seas's avatar

😬 not to mention a lifetime of hazards from the batteries to the environment. But we ignore that environmental damage because … we now hate gas.

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AngelaK's avatar

💯💯💯 We are polluting and destroying our earth.

What happened to caring about our environment?

Now all they talk about is climate change, so that their policies can further erode our soil.

Soon nothing we eat, breathe, consume, walk upon, play in, swim in, will be pure and non toxic, so what good is caring about the hazards of climate change, if by doing so, we poison all which is around us and by default, within us?

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Susan Seas's avatar

😭

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

They don't pay road tax either... for their super heavy vehicles (8k lbs)....

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Fred's avatar

CA's got that covered. Coming soon, a mileage tax (which means they know how much you drive, and limiting it is just around the corner). Trying it in the UK right now; folks keep taking down the cameras. You're charged every time you back your car out of the driveway.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I'm sure Newscum will love that!

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Susan Seas's avatar

I read an article about the bridge infrastructure being aged faster due to them 😳

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

No doubt that is true! They're destroying everything infrastructure and replacing it with.... But, at least my neighborhood just had miles and miles and miles of "underground lines" installed to "improve existing infrastructure communication," meanwhile our roads are full of potholes...

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T Diesel's avatar

I don’t mean to “Barge in” but I think you are right😉

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Ps. I said “please” 😉.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

😊

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TB's avatar

Pretty certain that batteries don't emit radiation, unless you have a source for measurements that would contradict that.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I'll look up the link.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Not sure about radiation, but definitely sitting on a heavy battery which wreaks havoc on tires causing an increase in emissions…a battery that was made from minerals mined using child/slave labor…for that, I do have guilt. Same child/slave labor that gives us smart phones, tablets, laptop batteries, etc. There’s a whole other rabbit hole we can go down!

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Too many rabbit holes... like, how many lbs of minerals per car...

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Dr Linda's avatar

I rebooted mine multiple times to no avail. It was weird

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Surely you have an alternative way to start your car!? What if you lose your phone while running errands. OK, fess up, what other option is out there?

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Yes…there is a credit card type of key. I wasn’t stranded, just inconvenienced. The comment was meant to draw attention to the glitches in technology, not my first-world inconveniences ;).

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I am so happy about Daniel Perry's pardon. Such good news for him and also for anyone else in the future who must defend themselves. A tiny grain of sanity exists.

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As I have mentioned before, from what I understand, May 16 was the day Earth started coming around the Sun to the point we are now, day by day, being more exposed to the magnetic fields of the four gas giants, Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus & Neptune; they are on one side and the Sun is on the other side. We are being affected from both sides.

Apparently the peak will be October so if some forecast are correct we will see more out of the norm climate and seismic activity. The last time the planet configuration was this similar was 79 AD. It will be interesting to see what, if anything happens.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

But Mt Vesuvius erupted in October of 79AD. That's weird.

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Debra S Heard's avatar

Right before elections!

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Tom's avatar

We know we're done when astrology drives mail in voting.

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Special Ted's avatar

Worshipping the signs is the same as worshipping the created. They missed it and fell for the deception. Only those with eyes can see. Real eyes realize real lies, as they say.

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Double Mc's avatar

Hmmm...Mount Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD. Let's hope this year doesn't bring that level of death and destruction.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

FBI took over the investigation from the NTSB in the TWA 800 crash.

Was it a US Navy shoot down?

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Tom's avatar

A guy from my unit was TDY flying refueling sorties within days of the incident. He said that he saw rocket plumes passing through airspace that was not restricted by NOTAM for manned flight. I.e., someone did not restrict that airspace for the purpose of live fire . . . yet he witnessed live fire.

If memory serves, the TWA incident happened AFTER he told me about this.

I feel it's important to note that I have no intention to . . . harm myself.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I lost my ability to "like" a comment for some reason.

So...just want to let you know I read your comment.

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CHop's avatar

Don't worry. There's others out there that claim it was accidently shot down by the military, but they covered it up because they didn't want it to hurt Clinton's reelection.

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Steve's avatar

And the 1996 Atlanta Olympics started 2 weeks after the crash.

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Steve's avatar

https://www.twa800.com/eyewitnesses.htm

Relevant data from the Eyewitness Group Factual Report:

Based on the data, 183 witnesses said they saw a streak of light, 201 said they saw one or more explosions, 100 said they heard one or more explosions, and 339 said they saw a fireball.

Of the 183 who observed a streak of light, 102 gave information about the origin of the streak. Six said the streak originated from the air, and 96 said that it originated from the surface. Of the 96 who said it originated from the surface, 40 said it originated from the sea and 10 said it originated from land.

One hundred and twenty-eight witnesses reported an immediate end to the streak, 85 described it ending in an explosion, 32 said it ended in a fireball, and 11 said it ended in a flash.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Did you read Jack Cashill's book on TWA 800?

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Steve's avatar

No, I know he wrote 2 books

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No one else wanted to touch the subject.

Or the coverup.

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T Diesel's avatar

“Nothing to see here”. “Lt. Frank Drebbin FBI Police Squad”.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And the FBI still can't find the J6 pipe bomber.

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T Diesel's avatar

A former Military Intelligence Officer says “The FBI doesn’t solve crime, they manage it”.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Or they plan it...Gov. Whitmer fake kidnapping.

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