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Liz LaSorte's avatar

So, some of us try to treat our bodies well, by eating a nutritious whole food diet (and wash off pesticides!) while others eat processed, non-nutritious food, drink, smoke, take drugs, and then end up with a host of health ailments.

And we are supposed to pay for unhealthy people who don’t even try to take care of themselves?

The government was never supposed to take care of the people. It’s supposed to protect us, and for decades, it couldn’t do that very well or we wouldn’t have 50 million plus invaders usurping our country.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

We pay for welfare recipients to eat unhealthy food. Then we pay for their healthcare. The government and its crony corporations profit. We must break the cycle or it will break us.

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

Yes! America spends over one trillion dollars a year on welfare – creating dependency on the government.

Maybe we could give peace a chance and end the War on Poverty: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/give-peace-a-chance-end-the-war-on-9f8?r=76q58

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LC's avatar

How do people in other Nations live without "welfare"?

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Mitch's avatar

they don't. The US sends them welfare also, lol.

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Bandit's avatar

🙌

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LC's avatar

What? Really? Why?

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Donna in MO's avatar

Oh Europe has been more socialist than us for decades and should be a case study in where we are headed if we don't change course. Massive social safety net covered by very high taxes and it's killed initiative. Very few startups driving innovation. Moribund economies. Low birthrates. And the US covering a lot of their national defense via NATO that Trump is trying to end that gravy train. That being said, most of the developed world does have some level of social assistance to prevent people from abject poverty like is seen in 3rd world countries. But there is a fine line between a social safety net and a hammock that people lay in for generations.

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Mitch's avatar

I'm being a little facetious, but if you look into it, you'll see how much "aid" the US sends to other countries yearly. Sure we're 38 trillion in debt, but why not send $100 billion (2023 amount) of taxpayer money to other countries...

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Bandit's avatar

How do you not know this? If US doesn't give huge amounts of money to countries they send food. Why? Because Americans are too generous.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Ukrainians and Israelis both provide healthcare to their citizens. Funny eh?

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Concerned mom's avatar

They live closer to nature... I recall my mother going to the farmer's market on a daily basis. Our diet was primarily grains and vegetables, we didn't own a fridge then. Meat was purchased once or twice a week, and everything we consumed was prepared at home.

My grandmother's take was, "we can't afford a doctor, so we need to prevent illness" I have lived by her wisdom for many years now, happy to report that at 64 I do not take any medication... Gracias abuela!

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Bgagnon's avatar

Your grandmother’s take needs to be taught at home and at school!!!

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Concerned mom's avatar

yes! God's bounty was her medicine cabinet... our diet included garlic, onions, all varieties of vegetables, spices like oregano, cloves, cumin, teas of all sorts, for cramps, headaches, tummy aches, sleep aid, etc., olive & castor oils for their specific purposes... I've lived by her wisdom for many years. I hear it reflected in what Barbara O'Neil teaches now...

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LC's avatar

Totally understand what you are saying. We cook at home too, we have not been sick for a very very long time now.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

1 trillion? Over half the fed budget is spent on entitlements.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Half on entitlements, half on defence (errr ... I mean war) and half on interest on existing debt ... a few trillion here ... a few trillion there ... and soon it adds up to real "money."

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Johnny-O's avatar

Perhaps it would be better if we called it like it is - this isn't handouts to everyday people, it is handouts to greedy health ins. and toxic healthcare companies. Despite all this "welfare" medical debt is still the leading cause of bankruptcy.

The welfare goes to the rich companies. That is the truth.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I looked at the USDA site for what is allowed on SNAP--having been unable to give full faith to the esteemed Jeff's images of a week or so ago--lobster tails! It was apparent to me that Big Food had pressed a heavy thumb on the scale, as it were, when the USDA was considering allowable elements.

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SadieJay's avatar

HA! Also go on Amazon to see the SNAP eligible items. What a load of bullshit.

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Patti's avatar

Amazon should not be approved in my opinion either

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Gary's avatar

yes, maybe they would have to exercise a bit! at least walk from the handicramp spots to the electric scooters to haul their spoils back.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Vivid imagery, Gary!

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Might offer us a glimpse as to why Amazon was one of the largest donors to the new Ballroom at the WH.

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GregWA's avatar

I looked up the lists of food required by USDA for a retailer to qualify as a SNAP participant. The list actually looked pretty good and it explicitly ruled out beverages, snacks, cookies, and all sorts of things that seemed reasonable.

So the question is, are these rules enforced? Wanna bet Trump's USDA starts raiding some stores and arresting store owners who violate these rules?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Indiana has tightened the rules (and of course leftists are complaining 🙄).

https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/briefs/feds-approve-indiana-ban-on-soda-candy-from-snap-purchases/

Imo they didn’t go far enough but it’s a start!

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Cousin Clem's avatar

That's great! I thought it interesting that the article states that households on SNAP consume 43% more sugary drinks than households with similar incomes but not on SNAP. So the free money is incentive to waste money on junk you'd never otherwise buy.

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Bandit's avatar

Other peoples money is always easier to spend on yourself.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup that doesn’t surprise me at all. Supported by my anecdotal evidence of growing up in a poor area with a good number of people on public assistance.

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Andrea405's avatar

It is the CULTURE. They eat garbage. They eat the sugar. On the Atlantic City boardwalk, you should see the lines for donuts or pizza at 9:30 AM where I take 10 mile bike rides. They smoke everything from tobacco, weed, coke and meth at higher percentage of the population 🫨. (And I smell the weed and cigars there too.) If I won a million dollars I would not waste it on junk food! Lobster and filet, yes. Fancy restaurants, yes.

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Patti's avatar

As a c- store owner I can say what we are suppose to carry we do great on for our size of store but the produce. Produce I can get from our suppliers I wouldn’t purchase so I don’t buy it. I was purchasing bananas, limes, lemons, apples and bringing them in but was not cost affective but kids bought the bananas and apples and adults did lemons and limes. I have everything else but I gotta say I’ve been on the verge of canceling my snap program but I know there are a handful of older adults and a few with mental disabilities that it would affect. We aren’t a store that does a lot of snap in the big picture. We do not treat anyone differently that uses the program.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

You have a ministry of sorts Patti, knowing the needs and caring for your customers is admirable. I occasionally stop at a C store for the quick affordable cup of coffee and have always wondered how these stores can carry quickly perishable items, produce and dairy, especially.

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Janet's avatar

I thought with the cards ineligible items were automatically not counted and ended up on the bill.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And chips and cookies and ice cream and soft drinks 😕

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, there is a post that has been circulating off and on on FB for some time. Ostensibly it's a post by someone on EBT who gets shamed by someone for using EBT to pay for a cake for her child's birthday. The post is meant to elicit sympathy but it makes me mad! When mine were little money was extremely tight. For our kids' birthdays we made a cake. From scratch. For a fraction of the 'store bought' ready made cakes that I considered a luxury we could not afford. Even if you are not a scratch baker you can buy a box of cake mix and a can of frosting for well under half the cost.

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RunningLogic's avatar

💯!!!! I’ve always made our birthday cakes from scratch! It’s not hard! And so much cheaper and better! I’m all for staples like flour and sugar to be covered but not ready made cakes or boxed mixes! It’s ridiculous to pay for that! If people really think food stamp recipients should get cakes then have a church or volunteers do that. Those are not necessities and the government programs should only cover what’s needed to keep people from going hungry.

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Andrea405's avatar

The recipients DO NOT GET IT. As the bible says, there will always be the poor. That is what charities are for- to help the poor. The government should not be charity.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Indeed Andrea405, the Bible states the poor will always be with us. This becomes a ministry for the church, not government.

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AJF's avatar

I made a carrot cake for my granddaughter's birthday with carrots I grew, eggs from my chickens and all the other ingredients including homemade icing came to probably $5. And let me tell you people were raving! If I must say so myself 😄

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Patti's avatar

Right?!? On our 10th birthday we got a store bought cake. ONE TIME! Otherwise my mom made the cake of our choice. No one seems to cook anymore. I am guilty of not spending a lot of time in the kitchen but my husband I work 60 hours a week most weeks and we are not on EBT. I’d prefer to have more home cooked or less on the go bars. Protein shakes but here we are. C- stores really should not be EBT approved in my opinion as the margin is so much higher than grocery stores but there would be food islands.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I get it, cooking is a time challenge. Fortunately for us anyway, hubby and I do eat leftovers. So if we cook we cook in bulk despite there now just being 2 of us with the kids grown. If we have hamburgers I will grill 10 of them not just 2 and freeze the other 8, that kind of thing. When the kids were home they did some of the cooking, my daughter is actually a better cook than me.

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RunningLogic's avatar

When I worked at a convenience store, people regularly would come in and buy all kinds of expensive junk food and pay with food stamps. There was an actual supermarket (cheaper with more options) about a quarter of a mile down the road 🙄

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Bandit's avatar

Both of the ways you just mentioned were the cakes my whole family got for our birthdays for my whole life.

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Karmy's avatar

I agree about making your own cake Donna but there is a consideration that perhaps people don’t have the equipment to make the cake, eg. beater, cake pans, oven. Just a thought.

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Donna in MO's avatar

True but when my kids got their first apartments I set them up almost exclusively at thrift stores where you can pick up furnishings, including kitchen stuff for very low prices, ovens of course excluded from that. And my son went a couple years where he wanted an oreo dessert (crushed oreos, vanilla pudding and whipped cream with gummy worms mixed in -he called it worms and dirt) instead of a cake that required no baking. Just saying, people tend to make excuses/focus on what they CAN'T do rather than what they can to make the best of a bad situation. My parents & hubby's parents were born in the 30's and they were raised with the mentality that you can find ways to overcome. Both of us raised in lower middle class homes where we learned from our parents to scrape/get by. We've somehow lost that mentality as a nation.

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rolandttg's avatar

Do they have tattoos? ~$1200 / year plan smart phones? $$ video games, apps, other tech toys? It's all about choices. We ate our share of pot pies and tuna fish as newlyweds, slept on a mattress on the floor for a year, college tiny fridge. We did not become able to buy and eat what we want without decades of sacrifice and scrimping. So horse manure to not having the right tools to cook at home,

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well then my volunteer idea stands. And companies or individuals are free to donate if they feel so strongly about it.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Karmy - Equipment? All you need is a bowl and a fork. If the bold is metal, you could even cook it in the bowl and not need a pan.

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Jeff S's avatar

I wish all the Snap people would learn to like frozen mini marshmallows!

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PEL's avatar

I saw edible underwear on Amazon as SNAP approved!!

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Bandit's avatar

Some how that does not surprise me. 😞

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Huh?

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Bandit's avatar

It's candy.

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

JFC! What a timeline I got stuck in this time!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Millions of ILLEGALS eat crappy food on OUR tax dollars too.

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Cabogirl's avatar

Medicare increase for 2026 .. $185 … going up to $ 206.50 a month. Nice real nice. Haha .. let’s see what our miserly SS increase is… typically it’s a hair above Medicare so we end up with $5. Yippee

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Social security is being increased by 2.6%. Which probably won’t pay for the increased Medicare premiums.

SS is not out of money-yet. If the government would stop dipping into those funds for other means. I’ve paid into that fund for over 50 years, starting at age 15. If I could have invested that money with the rest of my IRA I could have retired many years ago.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

Right. So to me, SS is an entitlement. I am entitled to my money back. All the rest...snap housing,welfare,Medicaid,general relief is a GIFT from your fellow tax payers and you are therefore Not entitled to it.

Stop lumping them together.

Just put a two year limit on it and if you can't find a job or family or whatever to make ends meet, well.....

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??? It’s so infuriating!!

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CStone's avatar

It was supposed to be in a lockbox. But RATS gnawed their way into that box years and years ago.

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Peace's avatar

Another idea for Trump - make sure SS retains solvency into the future. If anyone can do it , Trump can!

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Bandit's avatar

You could get a small fancy coffee with that $5. 🙄

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Eva H's avatar

SS is out of money and being funded by younger generations and inflationary printing. There should be zero increases to SS and families need to start taking care of each other.

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Bandit's avatar

I guess old people like me, who all of their family is deceased, are sucking out, right?

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Eva H's avatar

Three things:

1. Saving for old age is primarily the responsibility of each individual.

2. Beyond that, if one is a believer, hopefully he or she is a member of a church that will help fill in gaps.

3. I personally love old people. All my grandparents are dead. I am not opposed to spending time with and bringing meals to older people who need help and companionship. Before all these social programs people were part of communities that took care of each other. Now we are a fractionated society where no one thinks it's possible to survive without big Daddy government.

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Bandit's avatar

So, like I said, I'm just sucking out.

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RunningLogic's avatar

No, it’s the politicians who played fast and loose with the money that citizens were FORCED to pay in so now there isn’t enough 😡

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

SS needs to go away. It's 300b per month.

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MaryAnn's avatar

BTN’s: No. As of July ‘25, (the single thing Joepedo signed that I agree with) I am now eligible for full widow’s SS bennies (age 71). Prior to that, my state pension was deducted from my widow’s SS benefit which left just enough to pay the Medicare premium. My deceased ex husb paid a lot into SS over the years but never got to draw from it. I am happy to have it and use it to juice my slice of the local economy. 😁

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kittynana's avatar

@Benjamin- when the Boomers are gone it'll go down. Be patient. We're dropping fast enough.

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Eva H's avatar

Yes, and that's money we could be saving and investing ourselves! Our personal investing would get us a MUCH better return. I'm so tired of SS being a golden calf. I don't want it! And why do ministers magically not have to pay in! Has anyone thought about that?

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Where is thar SS $$$???

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

Energy Density Frequency Medicine is only $1900... less than yearly cost of Medicare. After the initial investment, it's FREE and works on every "problem" caused by virus, bacteria or parasite with NO side-effects and works 100 times faster.

This isn't "Rocket Science". It's a "no brainer".

https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/d85b5076-17f6-4cc8-ba7c-3af0e8bfeeb6

It's time to give the medical establishment the middle finger and "Take Back Your Power".

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

And there is tons of fraud within the welfare system. This was taken from Jeffery Mead's substack:

🥫 SNAP Fraud Exposed: 5,000 Dead, 500,000 Duplicates Found

Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins revealed an audit bombshell: 5,000 deceased individuals and half a million duplicates receiving SNAP (food stamp) benefits, with over $10 billion in improper payments last year alone.

Rollins called the program “corrupt and dysfunctional,” saying 80% of able-bodied adults without dependents are not working.

The administration is preparing a full overhaul—new verification systems, stricter work requirements, and a purge of inactive accounts.

Supporters say it’s about restoring accountability. Critics say it’s cruel during tough times.

Either way, SNAP is now a political flashpoint—a symbol of where the Trump administration’s populist reform agenda meets fiscal discipline.

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Anthony's avatar

This. I never hit my deductible and other people I know hit it by the end of January. Yet, I pay the same amount. Ridiculous.

But hey, I'm healthy. So I've got that going for me.

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Deb's avatar

It has always been that way! It is much more expensive to be healthy. Those who research homeopathic remedies and supplementation vs. taking a prescription with so many side effects that it would scare anyone are always penalized! There is a place for prescription meds but I believe they have been over prescribed and have harmed more than helped!

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Delightful Designs's avatar

And insurance only pays for the prescription meds.

I'd love to have insurance that helps me pay for what I actually feel better on.

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Cathie's avatar

Same here. I went on the much maligned carnivore diet and all but one of my health issues resolved. And, as a result, I am now a very healthy 77 year old, taking no meds other than eye drops for glaucoma. And I feel amazing every single day. I wish insurance paid for my ribeyes and pastured eggs!!!

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

I love a MWD!!! My husband cancelled his cataract surgery after doing DMSO eye drops. His vision improved considerably using them. Of note, if someone has already had cataract surgery, they cannot do DMSO eye drops, as it will damage their implanted lens!!!

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SadieJay's avatar

We are headed to Namibia for a few months and I will be on the carnivore diet. They have meat for appetizer, meat for main, meat as a side and meat as dessert. Lol. Our friends who live there are in great shape. Their meat is also 100% bush killed organic. Or if it is from a local farm, it is raised like God intended. No needles. The food over there is amazing.

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Anthony's avatar

I basically went Keto for 3 months. Lost 30 lbs 205 to 175. Felt great and have no issues. I've since added back in dessert and beer once in a while and still feel great. I refuse to take any shots they ask me to take.

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Jeff S's avatar

That's good news!

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SD Scott's avatar

Or skip the middle man, keep your own money with lower taxes. You could afford to work less & spend more of your energy on health building & quality of life activities.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Deb, you’re spot on. I used to be in the community pharmacy and i left for that reason: were simply giving our pills vs healing people.

Then i realized that true healing comes WHEN YOU GET OFF THE MEDS—but Big Pharma doesn’t want that, hence we have things like Obamacare that pharma wrote—costing tax payers money.

You’re so right that prescriptions do more harm than good and I’ve written extensively about it, but the main point is that I’d never use modern medicine EXCEPT for in a trauma situation. That’s the only time to use modern medicine.

Here are some articles if interested. I recently wrote one on cancer to start:

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/cancer-your-bodys-desperate-attempt

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/modern-medicine-as-poison

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/emergency-medicine-works-but-chronic

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rolandttg's avatar

~99 % of scrip meds treat symptoms, not causes. A patient cured is a patient lost.

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Deb's avatar

Thank you, sir. I will look at these articles.

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

And no one seems to ask why doctors no longer First Do No Harm: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/first-do-no-harm

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree! It’s so backwards at least in terms of good outcomes for people! In terms of making the most money for insurance companies, Pharma, hospitals and doctors, it’s great!! 😡

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Karmy's avatar

I was listening to the ad for Jase case on the radio and thought what could possibly go wrong giving people access to antibiotics when they are already overprescribed and the bugs are becoming resistant to common antibiotics.

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Occam's avatar

For sure - getting rid of 10's of millions of illegals would have a profound impact on affordability, crime, democrat bad behaviour and be a significant step forward to fixing this country.

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Prof. Fred Nazar's avatar

You can't wash off pesticides which are in the core of what you eat.

“We poison our food

to keep other creatures

from eating our food

so that WE can eat

our now poisoned food!” 1

If “food is your medicine”2, their food is your poison:

Open season for human culling:

The real purpose of “one health” is to kill human health by also killing their animal and vegetable food health, literally:

Bill Gates, raunchy rancher

The plan? slo-poison us!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/bill-gates-raunchy-rancher

War on food

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/war-on-food

War on poultry and cattle:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/war-on-poultry

War on Pigs

No ham, bacon, sausages, pork ribs, chops and tenderloin

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/war-on-pigs

"DRINK zee bugs": Cockroach Milk The Next Superfood !!!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/drink-zee-bugs-cockroach-milk-the

Water poisoning

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/water-poisoning-they-drink-perrier

Why is food poisoning legal?

How Rumsfeld forced the approval of Aspartame.

Artificial sweeteners, MSG, PFAS, Glyphosate ... go organic!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/why-is-food-poisoning-legal

Not fast food, PFAS food:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/fast-food-or-pfas-food

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p//join-us-class-action-pfas-in-hersheys

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shayne's avatar

Excellent comment PFN. Truth all the way.

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Matt L.'s avatar

Jeff’s daily drops are informative but with great comedy. I find myself waiting for my daily java & toast to read because it’s the perfect complement. These are gems that have me grinning ear to ear.

Yesterday:

“Now let’s stitch yesterday’s Epstein news together and see what sort of mittens it makes”

Today:

“If Heritage’s infamous Project 2025 —Trump 2.0’s “secret” policy blueprint— lacked a detailed Obamacare strategy, then I will eat a stethoscope’s ear nipple”

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kittynana's avatar

@Matt- Substack needs a laughing emoji

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Some pesticides are all through the food - glyphosate is one of them. Others are sprayed on, and can be scrubbed off to some extent.

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Prof. Fred Nazar's avatar

plain water can remove surface pesticides like diazinon and DDE, but most residues are not removed by water alone.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Oh Prof, I’m about lose it over the cockroach milk🤢🤮

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It doesn't take Sherlock's avatar

It's because the Left conflated "health care" with "health insurance". My drivers insurances doesn't pay for oil changes, tire changes, wiper replacement, catalytic converters, or any of the 100+ 'modules' that go bad over time that cost as much as a new cell phone.

And here is the Obamacare "Architect" Jon Gruber telling us how they pulled the wool over the eyes of many people. [Side note - don't just blanket trust guys from M.I.T. That just means they can be smarter at obfuscating the truth.]

https://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/politics/tapper-gruber

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rolandttg's avatar

When it comes to the bolsheviks screaming they are being steamrolled, remember they passed Obamacare with ZERO Republican votes. Then laughed.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I am now unsure about eating healthy foods because of Apeel and its organic iteration. But I am commenting to point out a lyric by maybe my all-time fave Jimmy Buffet wherein his wife says to him "I treat my body like a temple. You treat yours like a tent."

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nancylee's avatar

local local local. costs more because its better for you. farmers markets, neighbors, anyone local who grows food will talk to you about their practices.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. It’s not always possible for everything, but I try to get as much local food as I can!

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SadieJay's avatar

Omgosh....I saw on the Boise news last night that they had a story on a local mosque or some such giving away free Halal turkeys for Thanksgiving. Beating my head upon the TV made no difference to the end of the story.

And also an 8 year old girl was hit and killed by Elvin Ramos-Caballero, who, as a good man (media painted) waited at the scene and didn't flee. Then ICE swooped in and nabbed him because...well, we will never know. It is BOISE and they are trying their hardest to indoctrinate.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh man 🤦‍♀️

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SD Scott's avatar

Land back to the people!

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Lynne Morris's avatar

True. But while local beef and other protein is doable here, produce not so much. There is some but the area has very little soil and what us there is classified as poor. We have supplemented the soil and had nice gardens in the past but we are able to, and do, travel these days so that is not practical for now.

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rolandttg's avatar

Dumb ass Jimmy banned non vaxxers from his concerts as I recall. How's that working out for you now, Jimbo?

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I saw his last tour and there were no vax requirements. On a completely unrelated note I saw the Eagles at the Sphere this summer and they were fabulous. Maybe the best concert I have ever seen and I've seen a lot. I cannot recommend it enough.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

As your market produce buyer if they use Apeel or similar technologies in their produce.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

My supermarket initially said it would not use Apeel. But it has been what I consider to be shady about other ingredients.

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SD Scott's avatar

Many will lie or just don’t know what happened to the produce before it arrived at the store.

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CaplT's avatar

Interestingly, SNAP’s EBT cards are a black market commodity. People sell them at a discount.

Maybe they acquired them because they are one of the thousands of “dead” people or the multitude of double dippers discovered. Grocery stores cater to whoever is shopping in their store. Lobster tail is also seafood like canned tuna, right?

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

What if we took out the cash part of SNAP? While the federal government should not be responsible for taking care of the population, we could at least reform SNAP now and take the EBT cash out of play by replacing EBT cards using a nutritious food warehouse method where people pick up their nutritious food (only) at a warehouse: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/well-snap-yall?r=76q58

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CaplT's avatar

The warehouses are an awful lot like government grocery stores aka socialism.

It’s probably easier to designate types of food to be outside of SNAP or limit them to $x/month. Bakery items such as cakes or cookies while not healthy are a treat. If people want to spend more on unhealthy food, they can buy unhealthy or luxury items with their own money.

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RunningLogic's avatar

More like government food pantries than grocery stores, though? I do get your point however.

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

Well, in the idea that we are giving away food, yes, I see your point. But we already do that now via EBT, so this would replace SNAP/EBT so there is no longer EBT cash in the mix.

It would only be nutrititious (bulk) food and would also require a work requirement to work in order to pick up free food.

So, fraud would essentially be eliminated, but for people stealing bulk nutritious food.

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CaplT's avatar

We already have that in county food pantries. They are sometimes private, sometimes government. They are often the difference between barely surviving and living. County food banks should have branches though to be closer to people who need it.

Many Catholic parishes have a St. Vincent de Paul Food Pantry. SVDP FPs receiving food from a food bank would go right to the needy in their neighborhoods.

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MaryAnn's avatar

CapIT: This! A friend got the name of a family, impacted by the shut down, in need of food. She (naively) asked their preferences. They like fresh salmon and tuna, not canned tuna.😳 Needless to say, their food pantry $ did not go that far.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup the dead people and the double enrollees are a real thing too 😡

https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2025/11/13/brooke-rollins-snap-dead-people-double-names-n2421623?

And this is just what they’ve found/confirmed so far 😕

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Money spent to make people ignorant and fearful about health like the Cancer Industrial Complex.

The World Order constantly intensify all problems through the foundations, so that political and economic crises prevent the people of the world from organizing against them. The World Order must paralyze their opponents. They terrorize the world with propaganda.

The World Order

Eustace Mullins

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Simple solution:

Put the Democrats and Republicans in Politics on the same healthcare program that we enjoy.

Want to see lower costs? Just wait until Congress people and Senators receive their first premium invoice.

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SH's avatar

Damn straight!! That is exactly the way to create better, more affordable care!

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Phil Davis's avatar

A significant aspect that helped Americans with Obamacare was the removal of restrictions on pre-existing conditions when applying for a new policy. The food industry ensures that we stay sick, we being the collective sum of all Americans. As people age, they are likely to develop a medical issue that affects them.

However, they exploited the health of younger Americans to fill the gap and overcharged them for healthcare. That was stupid.

What we need is an overhaul of the whole system, from food to stopping deadly vaccines, and, if we can, significantly less alcohol drinking. That means destroying a couple of large industries. I think that's worth the price.

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rolandttg's avatar

Please don't take our alcohol. My holistically cured cancer survivor wife changed her lifestyle (and mine) in so many ways, but the one thing she refused to do was give up drinking. It still worked. Even the legendary holistic doctor Tennant did not object after she said it was what kept her emotionally stable and happy. Emotions are the single most important determinant in health

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Liz, your comment reminded me of something I wrote on the subject in 2014. I can only find the image, so I posted it on my notes. Here’s the link: https://substack.com/profile/69575504-words-beyond-me-janice-powell/note/c-177206391?r=15f8sw&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

Well said, Janice. I can't help but think of the saying that the government that gives us everything is the same government that can take it all away.

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RunningLogic's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

The federal government has overstepped its powers outlined in the Constitution. The states need to put the federal government back in its place.

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Andrea405's avatar

We all know each year the health insurance companies keep raising the fees. I called just this week and said I give you permission to see my claims as far back as you want, including RX. I should be REWARDED for being healthy and using standard once a yr diagnostic tests and physician visit. Just like car insurance, people with a clean driving record don't pay the same rate as the speeders and crash maniacs. No luck. The rate is the rate. So I am lowering my coverage and will pay a higher copay. Big deal, I still will be ahead.

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Jay Poole's avatar

US government health care spending will be $1.8 trillion in 2025, for a sicker population that is dying younger. We have a problem of incentives from embracing Obama communist sick care. When you pay more for people being sick and needing more treatment you get…unwell people, because incentives matter. Instead of letting the MBAs run health care through a profit-focused management of Hospitals, Insurance companies, Big Pharma, how about we shift the focus back to Health…using capitalism.

ThanKS Wellness care will use Capitalism to incentivize a healthier US population by having profits go up with wellness. (T-Trump, K-Kennedy, S-Sanders):

Free government-controlled health care for all from 1-18 and 75+. (Kids cost little and neglect is likely more expensive than treatment, elderly need to have more wellness care than hospitals currently provide, and all these elderly people are currently on Medicare.) Only government has the democratic moral justification to deal with the issue of 50% of people’s lifetime healthcare coming in the last 3 months of life. Note that the capitalism system will innovate and government can copy what works to cover the youth and elderly. All elderly should have the right to stay on ThanKS wellness care, but at their own expense for the additional costs of ThanKS over Medicare.

SOLUTION:

Between the ages of 19-74 we have 5+ major health care providers who accept clients for a set annual insurance premium, which increases with age/inflation.

Clients can change companies once per year. Failure to create health will result in healthy clients leaving, so the pool of insureds deteriorates, so the market will incentivize beneficial management decisions. (This is why we can only have huge companies enter this market, because we can’t have an incentive to undertreat, pay big salary/bonus and then go bankrupt.)

Companies cannot terminate clients, so no more delay, deny, defend….and hope that the patient changes jobs or gets so sick that they are no longer your responsibility as they head to Medicaid when they lose their job. The big 5-10 companies will “own” people for 57 years, so the smart economic decision is to create health. I suspect health investments in exercise, food (rewards for low booze/cigarettes/sugar), friendship, communal dogs and time in the sun are all really good investments to reduce sick-care…but humans need to be nudged, and capitalism is good at hiring consultants to plan that). The main thing I want is to have Apple, Tesla, Google, Palantir, and Open AI figure out what investments in their clients’ quality of life/health make sense (by testing and monitoring)…and client and company incentives are aligned because of the length of the contract. Healthy people are profitable customers for the insurer, so they will create HEALTH. The other advantage is that State Medicaid spending becomes less bureaucratic, just pay the insurance premium to one of the companies (bet Trump will negotiate a discount) and keep your state’s folks covered.

BENEFITS:

Health decisions will be studied by professionals. Innovations in care and technology! Even Scott Adams struggled with figuring out his best treatment, and he is a MENSA analyst extraordinaire dude. M.D.’s focused on health, and hired by companies focused on health, will change medical schools. Heck M.D.’s may even get trained on nutrition!

People are in control of consumer choices of providers and companies make more money keeping us healthy.

Capitalism will create many new products and services. I don’t know what will keep folks healthy, is it water filters, supplements, acupuncture, pets, limited screen time, free fresh vegetables delivered weekly, or mushrooms and weed….let the market figure it out. I am looking forward to having the Star Trek disease screening room in our public library/remote testing and monitoring and cash payments for frisbee golf and hiking with poison free (non-alcohol) IPAs to celebrate afterward with the group! Let’s turbo charge MAHA and see if we can drag Bernie and his bros into MAGA. (Can you imagine eliminating the stress impacts on health of the individuals and society from those half a million American families going bankrupt from medical bills each year?)

Use Capitalism to create wellness, end insurance stress, and unify America. Capitalism nearly ended poverty on the planet, so use it to MAHA (and then export our new health companies to MHHA (Make Humans Healthy Again) as Americans save the world from European socialism again.

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Phil Davis's avatar

Here's the problem with capitalism. It's biggness. Biggness creates corruption, then add the other big elephant in the room: Republicanism. A republican form of government means that everyone is for sale. This creates crony capitalism. So, to your capitalism argument, we already did that, and now we are exactly what happens when you combine big government with big businesses.

The money invested in healthcare is so great that it's almost impossible to correct this issue. Healthcare is something all humans regularly require; it's a necessity, particularly because of another large industry, the food industry.

The entire system, from top to bottom, needs to be revised or completely rebuilt. We should have a principle that healthcare should not be used as a means of wealth accumulation, but rather as a utility.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Revoking Citizens United would be a good start... the corporations own the elections now... and all they want is MORE PROFIT... they don't give a schit about America or its citizens...

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Phil Davis's avatar

And one of the reasons the immigration issue has never been addressed. Business wants cheap labor. Reagan even made matters worse.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Ronny had his flaws... but I think he was set up and gaffed by the Dems... they made a deal, amnesty for border security... then after amnesty, the dems reneged.

Scumbags, yes, but Reagan should have been smarter.

BTW: I think the Iran Contra mess was a Bush/Cheney Operation... those two vile scumbags that were major planners and players in the 911 attacks... though Israel was the prime player in that...

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Phil Davis's avatar

No doubt.

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Starsky's avatar

We also pay for them to chop their boobies and tallywhackers off, plus pay for the Allsorts bag of hormone drugs to guarantee them becoming “complicated” patients for life.

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kittynana's avatar

@Liz- you DO know the pesticides are sprayed on the GROWING food and not the final product, right? That means it's IN the food. You can't wash it off.

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rolandttg's avatar

Not always. They spray it on wheat, barley, millet, et al to kill it all at once at harvest. So wheat is usually non GMO.but drowned in round up.

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kittynana's avatar

@Roland- ugh

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth; and while being reviled, He did not revile in return; while suffering, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously; and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed. For you were continually straying like sheep, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Guardian of your souls.

— 1 Peter 2:21-25 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

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Jamie's avatar

Not sure why, but as I read this the thought crossed my mind… Jesus did not revile in return- He forgave. And that is a love that only God can provide us, only God can train us to live like He did. With man it is impossible to do this, but with God… nothing is impossible.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Behold the Lamb!! Did you know that sheep are some of the DUMBEST barnyard animals!! Documentable proof thereof can be found in any discourse of "domesticated animal behavior patterns". Yet...Christ was compared to this animal genre as are WE His 'followers'. Interesting thought pattern there on the part of our Creator God!!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

They are sort of dumb. They are super vulnerable to any threats. But they give great things. Their wool, milk, lanolin, and also meat in the end. They are completely dependent on their owner.

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Jamie's avatar

I knew about us being compared to the dumbest animals, sheep. Though I never thought of the fact that as Jesus was the Lamb He was included in that category. I think of him as the shepherd!!!

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Carolyn's avatar

HE is THE shepherd. HE is compared to a sacrificial lamb without blemish. That is one of the base reasons HE was born in a stable. A special space was made in the STONE stable, cleaned and waiting for the sacrificial lamb.

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neener's avatar

Indeed he is both. Just as he is God. He is the alpha and the omega and the creator as well.

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SD Scott's avatar

The lion of Judah with the the appearance of a lamb, standing before God’s throne

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Claire L May's avatar

Jamie, Through His horrible suffering and death on the cross, Jesus became the unblemished Lamb of sacrifice for our sins in His New Covenant with us. His sacrifice replaced the unblemished lamb that the Israelites were instructed by God, through Moses, to sacrifice to atone for their sins in the old Mosaic Covenant. So He truly is the pure Lamb, but also the loving, vigilant Shepard protecting us, and guiding us Home to Heaven.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Since He is also cited as The Word, The Creator, The Prince of Peace - he can take many "metaphoric mentions" and still be the Righteous Redeemer and King of our souls!

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Michelle's avatar

The comparison of Jesus to a sheep (a lamb) is that He was the final Passover sacrifice that once and for all paid for the sins (past, present, and future) of those who repent and put their trust in Him.

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Barbls's avatar

Sheep may NOT be some of the dumbest barnyard animals. This is an interesting rebuttal:

https://faunafacts.com/are-sheep-smart-or-dumb/

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Patty's avatar

Maybe it’s not fair to use human definitions of intelligence to judge it in other animals. They have what they need and survive in ways we couldn’t. I watch my chickens, and they seem silly to me, but they spot the hawk in the sky way before I do. They are smart in their own way.

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Jeff S's avatar

I think sheep and chickens are smarter than my cousins.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

I'll bet your cousins don't know how to lay eggs!

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆

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Barbls's avatar

lol

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Jamie's avatar

Yes, God created them with everything they need to be a sheep and He created you chickens to be everything they needed to be chickens! I call them stupid in context, only when comparing them to humans. I think they likely look at me and think the same thing!!!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Well...the article emphasizes they have "group think" - which is fine and dandy until the Master Shepherd decides to slaughter the group - I don't believe a sheep has any critical thinking skills or 'defensive abilities'. Of course, they have some 'common sheep sense' - no surprise there, Barbis. And...they are delightfully 'lofty softy' to look at - watching 'little lambs' cavort about pastures is also a wondrous sight to behold. Ask a cattle rancher if sheep are stupid...and you will receive a VERY tart retort!!

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Barbls's avatar

LOL! Survive like sheep or die like lemmings, I suppose.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

As long as sheep are 'in the herd' they are fairly safe--it's when they 'wander' that they become prey. Just like us...when we 'wander from His wonder' - calamity usually befalls us!

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Carlos's avatar

Amen and Amen 🙏

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Essay33's avatar

The day hasn't quite begun until C&C appears.

I'm really hoping they knock the Obamacare revenue stool over, chop it into kindling and burn it. If we have to have insurance, maybe they could make it like auto insurance. Pick your provider and your benefits according to your own budget and desires.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

@Essay33 and for the love of Pete, DISCONNECT it from employers! That would go a long way toward restoring free market choice.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree!!! It’s ridiculous that it’s tied to employers. That keeps people in jobs they don’t like or want and limits choices. Plus it creates a conflict of interest imo when the employer has anything to do with an employee’s health matters (except things like workplace injuries which are separate anyway).

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Susan Seas's avatar

Talking to a nurse friend who is in the KNOW, if you know what I mean. Her husband has to go to physical therapy twice a week after his shoulder surgery and he has to go to one that is an hour away. Not one of the hundreds closer because that’s the one they’ll pay for. She said it’s just to encourage them to not go and then they don’t have to pay for it at all. Grrr

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Delightful Designs's avatar

There are companies that the big insurance hire who's job is to figure out which claims to deny to meet a specific target of % of claims denied. So if they want an extra half billion in the bank, they up the percentage number, and those companies choose what to deny to get to it.

Denial of payment has zero to do with whether it's useful to the patient, or a valid reason for denial, and everything to do with "we will be denying 16% this quarter."

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ROKM's avatar

How wicked they are. No care for people, just money. But, you can't serve two masters. If they choose money, as they clearly have, their end will not go well...whether they believe that or not.

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Padrig's avatar

All health insurance companies should be Mutual companies which are owned by the policy holders. That kind of nonsense would end quickly.

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Stacy's avatar

Reminds me of how Mayo decided how many Covid vaccine exemptions they were going to grant. They announced that they were going to have a certain percentage of staff vaccinated and if there were too many exemption requests, then it was jab or job for those who were denied. The questionnaire was more of an inquisition, and we were not allowed to know who was reviewing our answers or making the decisions.

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rolandttg's avatar

What impresses me the most about this, and the entire "screw you. I need this job" mentality of the covid medical industry whores, is how souless people who seem so sweet and normal can be when dollar signs come into play.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Precisely. However, many people seem to think government run healthcare is "welfare" to the people - it is welfare to the greedy health insurance and "health"care companies.

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Jeff S's avatar

The best that money can't buy...

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Susan Seas's avatar

Perfect statement!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh that is so frustrating but absolutely not surprising, sadly 😕

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Padrig's avatar

That is terrible. A two-hour drive would probably nullify whatever good the physical therapy would do.

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Padrig's avatar

Absolutely true! The company for which I once worked used to send these "Total Compensation" letters bragging about the health insurance. I was aghast at how much the company was paying for things I would never use. Finally dropped it all and picked up a Christian Sharing Program for my family.

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SB's avatar

And all the people who can’t afford to retire til 65 because of insurance

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Padrig's avatar

It can be done with a strong faith in our Lord and some adjustments of expectations.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that too!

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Barbls's avatar

Employers started offering health insurance to entice labor to work for them at a time when there was a shortage of skilled labor. It was an "extra," not a "right." Unfortunately it morphed into the millstone that currently weighs us down.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And the government had put wage freezes in place, through the Stabilization Act of 1942, so companies used insurance perks to get around that. Always government meddling at the origin of our problems!

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SadieJay's avatar

In 1971, President Nixon implemented wage and price controls, which included a freeze on wages to combat inflation. This led to an increase in employer-sponsored health insurance as companies sought to attract and retain workers without raising wages, effectively linking employment to health coverage.

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Susan Seas's avatar

They have definitely played the long game.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes so adding to the problem again 😕

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Jeff S's avatar

There's no such thing as "good government."

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

Their power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

👋 hi!

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Barbls's avatar

Hi back!

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Steve Stevens's avatar

An employer CHOOSING to offer health insurance and/or various other benefits IS free choice!

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RunningLogic's avatar

No it’s not. You only get the “choice” of what the employer offers. If they have one plan, that’s all you get.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Exactly, it's more like a hostage situation.

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Steve Stevens's avatar

You could opt out of the employers and then go get your own.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Sure, theoretically, but often, individuals can’t get decent coverage for a decent price. So yeah, it’s a “choice” but not really much of a choice.

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Padrig's avatar

The Christian sharing programs are a legitimate option. It kinda feels good to know that the premiums are actually going to help other people and not just to the bottom line of a large company.

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Lisa's avatar

They don't have to offer any plan, I think is what his post suggests. They could offer $ incentive instead and you can shop for your own.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They could but they might not. I just don’t see why healthcare or insurance should have anything at all to do with your employer.

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CraigN's avatar

It's intended to be part of the compensation package, not unlike matching 401K contributions. As an employee you should be able to see what the costs to the employer are for the benefit packages that they offer. The potential problem I see with not offering a health insurance benefit package and instead simply giving the employee additional salary is that the individual will have to pay more for the same health insurance. This is simply due to volume pricing and averaging out the utilization metric across a larger population. Also, that would mean that some employees may use that money for things other than health insurance and thus have a higher absentee rate due to not getting medical treatment. The ACA was supposed to require everyone to carry health insurance, but we see how well that worked out. I don't have a good solution to this problem only outlining where I see potential pitfalls.

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Patti's avatar

At a certain number of employees I believe the employer has to offer. At least in Washington

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Sara Patton's avatar

In Hawaii, employers are required to provide health insurance to their employees. Even if they have just one employee.

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Romgrp's avatar

Yes! Please decouple the oh bummer care from retirement income, as well! So each year we must declare our yearly income THEN choose a plan. Believe me- it’s no picnic. If our income exceeds our declared income- well then you must repay the subsidy. Get rid of the subsidy and give us a real number that is not outlandish. Like an auto plan. The price last year,for two, was reasonable BUT our deductibles are sky high. If nothing changes- for the 2026 year, out present selection will be 1000% higher per month. Does crowd sourcing health care count as insurance? It should.

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Occam's avatar

Not sure how it would be done, but that would go a long way towards crippling the corporate hold on American healthcare.

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Steve's avatar

First step: IF employer choose to assist with employee health care costs, put all the funding in employee HSA, and let the employee choose how the funds are spent.

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Delightful Designs's avatar

I schedule my morning around C&C :D

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CaplT's avatar

What made Obamacare “attractive” was that every citizen would be covered.

If Pres. Trump’s plan can do that without breaking the country as Obamacare is, it will be historic.

That means curbing big insurance.

Big Hospital.

Doctors as vaccination bounty hunters.

And elevating vitamins and supplements as health measures to get discounts on premiums.

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CHop's avatar

And, cover alternative and naturopathic therapies like acupuncture, HBOT and the like.

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I am not your Other's avatar

That’s how is WAS back in the day before ACA.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Please!!!!

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Medicare for all.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Poverty for all.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Eliminate insurance.

That's where the cost is.

Govt can control medical costs.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Government control. Yeah, that sounds great. You sound retarded.

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Jeff S's avatar

ad hominem?

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Maybe her dog died or unloved

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Bard Joseph's avatar

They control SNAP payments.

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BD's avatar

Oh yea?? Since when has government controlled ANY costs?

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Abiding Dude's avatar

You might change your mind when you have to shell out, no coverage, for your upcoming liver transplant!

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Gaza body parts entering the market.

Fear of death is a good marketing strategy.

Dont fear death. Fear going under the knife.

Who decides about the condition of your liver? The guy who gets paid to remove it?

Have a liver problem, start treating it better.

Fear not.

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SD Scott's avatar

Get a juicer - it’s cheaper!

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I am not your Other's avatar

Bad idea. See your local DMV (in a large metropolis), or try to dispute social security and go to SSA court, or tell your local county that the taxes are too high.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Or go to Black Rock for insurance help.

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Carolyn's avatar

Stupid

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Jlbg8r@gmail.com's avatar

My daughter is unable to work (age 54). Many health issues. Striving to get disability but difficult since she isn’t an illegal alien.

She’s had O care for 4 years and it’s been wonderful. For $100/mth.

I do not know what we will have to do now. 😭😭😭

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Schiff is not just a nincompoop, he's also a boob....a nincomboob (trademark pending). I swear, everytime I see that beady eyed cheese weasel my ears become flush with the "lunatic in the house" violin screeches from the shower scene in Psycho.

Gruesome Newsome possesses all of those qualities that make a used car salesman positively cuddly in comparison. The Joker aspires to be this smarmy. What a wretched combo.

Did anyone inform these dimwits that the sordid legacy of Boss Tweed and the Tammany Hall jackboots is a shameful cautionary lesson in history, not a step-by-step instruction manual to emulate? History, when not seriously contaminated, has its purpose. I guess it’s too much to expect this chronicle to serve as a warning. Greed is a powerful - yet a most destructive - human liability…history be damned. What’s that saying….? “If you’re a hammer you see everything as a nail.” If you’re a corrupt politician, you see everything as a stack of money.

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LMWC's avatar

Rather than the 51% threshold that CA uses, try what the Leftists now controlling Michigan do. They come up with Constitutional ballot initiatives. Leftist backed groups come up with ballot initiatives they want voted on in a general election. Michigan law requires 500,000 signatures to get the proposal on a general election ballot. Then the signatures have to be verified by SOS commissions, then a judicial review must go forth to prove language is clear, concise, and correct. Misspellings and incorrect grammar are supposed to be grounds for the initiative being denied. I know all of this because a grassroots group got 600,000 signatures to overturn an ancient Michigan law, the governor was using to keep the state locked down in 2020. We got those signatures in a bit more than 3 months. Then the SOS dumped it into, “the review at leisure” file and waited over 9 months to approve it and pass it on. In 2022, right after Roe v Wade was dumped, an abortion rights initiative magically appeared with 750,000 signatures in less than two months time. The initiative was touted as abortion rights, but was so much more. It and a voter’s rights initiative also managed to make the general election ballot. Both had grammatical errors and misspellings. Both had dubious, confusing language, and both were moved through. The proposals received many commercial spots focusing on one aspect of each. People don’t read ballot proposals. They passed and because they are Constitutional amendments, they can only be repealed by a 2/3’s vote of the Legislature. This election cycle they are trying to get Ranked Choice Voting across the line. Heaven help us.

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LW's avatar

Ranked choice was tried in at least four states last election… Voted down and all. So there is big opposition.DONT BE LULLED…EDUCATE!!!

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CHop's avatar

They are attempting to go county by county pushing rank-choice voting. Stop it any way possible. Or better yet, we need to make it federally illegal.

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Barbls's avatar

Ranked choice voting have delivered Murkowski to Alaska and Mamdami to NYC.

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Joe's avatar

I think Michigan is beyond hope at this point so we are seriously looking at leaving. Everywhere you look you find out that the “umpires” belong to one of the teams so there is no chance to get justice. I live in Wayne County so it’s especially bad here, but it does seem to be a state wide problem with no solution insight as long as we have the present secretary of state, governor, Attorney General, and Michigan Supreme Court.

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schneile's avatar

I urge you to do it. We fled kommie New Jersey in late 2020 for the free state of Florida. Zero regrets. It’s refreshing to live among like-minded voters. I’ve had more than my fill of blue state “diversity” and taxes for a lifetime.

Best of all: Thanks to our property taxes being more than halved and state income taxes completely disappeared, I had the pleasure in September of RETIRING—at age 59. #LoveMyGov #MakeAmericaFlorida

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Schiff is not just a nincompoop/boob - he's a pedophile. He was seen with an under-age female in a Beverly Hills hotel corridor. That witness was Anthony Bourdain, who sadly was suicided not long after.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

Um… actually, it was an underaged BOY 🙄

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RunningLogic's avatar

These people are so depraved 🤮

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Starsky's avatar

An underage boy who supposedly died of an overdose while being assaulted.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

A pedoboob?...pedopoop??

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RunningLogic's avatar

Eww 😝 He’s such a disgusting scumbag 😡

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Doug's avatar

Have you seen his wife?!

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I'd rather not.

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Doug's avatar

I think that was my point. He'd probably rather not as well...

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RunningLogic's avatar

His Nincomboobness, the oleaginous Governor French Laundry!

This is how he should henceforth be announced.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Shall we make it dogma?

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Newsom's karma is going to run over his dogma

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RunningLogic's avatar

I vote “yes”! 😁

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

And so it is written this 14th Day of November 2025.

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Jeff S's avatar

That's too kind. Throw in a little profanity?

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RunningLogic's avatar

You’re welcome to, if you want 😛 I don’t think it’s necessary though 🙂

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Jeff S's avatar

If I were back home in NY, I'd have to add a little color, just to be respectable.

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆😁

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MayBella82's avatar

And Obama has gotten rich off Obamacare. Man should be in jail.

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william howard's avatar

there was a report from Trump on Substack that Obama was getting millions each year from Obamacare - how in the world does that happen

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MayBella82's avatar

I read it was royalties for using his name in it… I think it was from a satire meme.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m sure he got some kind of kickbacks 😡

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william howard's avatar

let's hope - if true there is little hope for the country

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I'm hoping for that hi-profile arrest and incarceration.

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Barbls's avatar

That was a repost from a satire site. I looked and can't find anything other than that meme to support the idea that he got paid royalties. I even looked to see if Obummer's stock holdings included the insurance companies, but found nothing.

Believe me, I WANTED to find evidence to support the claim, but a better data miner than me would have to find it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Still think he profited somehow. I’m sure he hid it well though.

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william howard's avatar

thanks - I feel better

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Is that true 😡

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MayBella82's avatar

I think it was a satire meme.

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Patti's avatar

Right?!? I thought the same thing.

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melissa's avatar

Obamacare took my $250/mo self-employed insurance policy with decent coverage to a $700+ policy for catastrophic only. Ridiculous. I opted to change to a medi-share that is next to nothing, but covers absolutely nothing. I cannot wait for Obamacare to disappear!!

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NoVA mom's avatar

Yup - hub and I are on Obamacare - $9100 premium this year - up to $23,000 next year! Going to give Christian healthcare ministries a try.

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shayne's avatar

I called them to find out what premiums would be. They asked a few questions, and when they quoted a price, I said, thank you, I'll think about it, and never called back.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

Energy Density Frequency Medicine is only $1900... a lot less than Medicare. And, after the initial investment, it's FREE and works on every "problem" caused by virus, bacteria or parasite with NO side-effects and works 100 times faster.

This isn't "Rocket Science". It's a "no brainer".

https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/d85b5076-17f6-4cc8-ba7c-3af0e8bfeeb6

The Holy Spirit led me to develop this product. I had no intention of developing it because I was already building the most powerful Sympathetic Resonance product on the planet. Fortunately, for my customers, the product in the video works BETTER. It's what I use INSTEAD of insurance.

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Stacy's avatar

I’m intrigued. I’m sure you encounter your share of detractors (anyone going against the orthodoxy does) but people have no idea that the mechanism of action of too many drugs (most of which are only meant to manage chronic conditions, by the way) in mainstream use is not clearly understood and yet they are prescribed and taken in full faith and without question. I would ask those people why their faith in mainstream allopathic medicine is not to be ridiculed. If they knew how corrupt this system is, they might be more open to considering alternatives like yours.

As a friendly aside, I was looking forward to Susan’s testimonial video, but I was not able to get the audio to work.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

I'll check out that vid. If I get it to work, I'll send it to you if you ask me at harmonicresearch@gmail.com. Most people can't bend their mind around such a concept as Frequency Medicine and simply ignore me. You are smarter.

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Stacy's avatar

Thank you, Sir Jeff, you are very kind to say so and I appreciate your invitation. I choose not to put God in a box and I do not believe that allopaths have as many answers as they think they do. I do, however, know that too many journal editors and peer reviewers are part of a cabal, one acknowledging only those papers that conform to the narrative and make the money.

I ran a simple Duck Duck Go search on frequency medicine and it instantly turned this up: https://medicalveritas.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/528-Frequency-Gold-Standard-in-Energy-Medicine.pdf

It makes more sense to me to give this the time of day than butchery such as coronary artery bypass grafting.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

The article you refer to uses Sympathetic Resonance Technology that was made obsolete 21 years ago with the introduction of Energy Density Technology that is used in the Super CHI that is shown in the video from swisstransfer.com. This technology is not anywhere on-line because it replaces every antibiotic and vaccine. It's too dangerous to advertise.

You are right about "butchery".

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Jeff S's avatar

There's only one solution: don't ever get sick, and don't ever get hurt, and then die healthy.

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melissa's avatar

This is my plan. :)

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Melissa S's avatar

I’ve always been curious about the medi-share plans. I only hear positive things about them. But your experience is that they “cover absolutely nothing”. Would you care to elaborate? What do they actually cover?

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

I am a member of Samaritan Ministries. The good side is monthly shares are low. Mine at 60+ is about $200/month. And I opted in for a higher total payout (quarter of a million?) if something really big happens. I can choose any doctor, including naturopaths and functional medicine. I can ask for, and usually get, a discounted “cash pay” bill for the ”uninsured”. Sometimes the discount is even 90%, though it’s usually not that much. If you have a preexisting condition, you can join, though expenses for that condition aren’t shareable for the first five (3?) years.

The down side, if you can call it that (these drawbacks don’t bother me at all), is the first couple thousand of any health intervention is out of pocket. So, if I have 3 unrelated issues in one year (or even one week) and they each cost $2000 for treatment, my medical expenses are $6000. None of that is “shareable”. So you do have to be responsible to keep enough in savings in case you need it. Also, in my medishare, dental and vision are not covered. I pay out of pocket for all of that, even if I need dental surgery or cataract removal, whatever. You can submit those expenses and ask for donations, though. Every month I see the list of things other members are asking for extra help with, and I can chip in $25 if I feel like it.

I don’t have any experience submitting expenses, so I can’t speak to the complaints about frivolous denying or slow reimbursements. After the pandemic and watching regular medicine (before and after covid) slowly kill my husband, I rarely go to the doctor anymore! I just do my best to stay healthy and do healthy things.

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Michelle's avatar

Medi-share also has the 3-year wait time before they will cover any pre-existing condition. They also will charge you an extra $100 a month if you are too much overweight or have uncontrolled blood pressure, etc. (Taking BP meds to control blood pressure is fine with them.)

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Michelle's avatar

Medi-share also has the 3-year wait time before they will cover any pre-existing condition. They also will charge you an extra $100 a month if you are too much overweight or have uncontrolled blood pressure, etc. (Taking BP meds to control blood pressure is fine with them.)

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melissa's avatar

We are alt medicine people. They didn't cover for some visits my son had with an ND. 2 visits for an acute problem that he solved over 2 months. They said, nope, he's not an MD, sorry. I avoid MDs as much as possible. So basically it is a catastrophic policy for me.

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Dana Hope's avatar

I did a medi-share plan for 2 years and submitted two claims—which took a full day to complete the paperwork. A month later both were denied for frivolous reasons listed in the fine print. It was basically a catastrophic policy.

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Melissa S's avatar

Makes me wonder if the policy would actually pay out for catastrophic medical expenses, and what would you still be left with?

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Michelle's avatar

I had Medi-Share when my daughter was diagnosed with cancer. They did pay out after we’d paid (been billed for) our annual household portion (which was $12K). It did take some time, but nothing was denied.

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Michelle's avatar

I had Medi-Share when my daughter was diagnosed with cancer. They did pay out after we’d paid (been billed for) our annual household portion (which was $12K). It did take some time, but nothing was denied.

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Connect The Dots's avatar

I have the same story as Melissa… But my health share covers most things that are over $200. And I can go to any doctor or hospital I want. They do take a long time to pay, and there are some things you need preapproval for, such as physical therapy or chiropractic.

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Michelle's avatar

Which health sharing program are you using?

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Michelle's avatar

Which health sharing program are you using?

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Connect The Dots's avatar

Liberty health

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Michelle's avatar

Which health sharing program are you using?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

“Obamacare could collapse."

Oh? Tell me more. Because the current system is a disaster.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Let’s pray Obamacare does get replaced. If there is to be a mandate, it should only be for bare bones catastrophic, but I hesitate to mandate anything. It is criminal to charge families 48k a year-just robbery. Make hospitals, doctors, insurers, and drug companies spell out their fees.

My colleagues have become hospital drones, and my practice was killed by the pandemic.

We have the sickest people in the world because docs are now bribed to push poison. I worked for my patients.

On another note, I slogged thru all the comments of the last few days, for fun. Lots of visitors, lots of vitriol, and where was Janice and The Word?? Maybe that was part of it.

I give thanks for Jeff, every day.

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Barbls's avatar

I posted this yesterday or the day before. It seems like a reasonable off-ramp for our squishy rinos:

Here's how to replace ACA: (1) immediately eliminate the requirement for people to buy from ACA insurers; (2) step down subsidies paid to insurance companies for one year from current levels to zero at the end of the period; (3) prohibit insurance companies from increasing premium prices during that period, reminding customers what their non-subsidized premium would be that month, every month; (4) remove one-size-fits-all regulations from insurance company plans; (5) allow states to permit and regulate smaller health insurance companies within state borders (competition); (6) use Medicaid to cover outlyer previous conditions; (7) get CMS out of the price-fixing and protocol-requirement interference in medical services and insurance.

I'm sure there are other ways to strip away power and procedure from this medicocracy. But legislators who are genuinely seeking to solve the problem of ACA must take a look at the only real health insurance objections that existed before Pelosi pushed through Obama's seizure of a third of our economy: (1) exclusions for previous conditions, and (2) shame associated with welfare medical insurance. More than 80% of USAmericans were happy with their health insurance before Democrats wrecked it.

Addendum: Medicaid could be an overflow bin for the preexisting condition portion of a person's individual health history, allowing an insurance company to insure that person for all health issues except the outlyer issue. I had a home insurance policy like that, which insured all the normal things except anything at all related to complaints against my dog that had once bitten someone.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great comment!

Janet was at the dentist’s apparently 😛 So didn’t post that day.

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Stacy's avatar

She is excused. 😖🙅‍♀️😬

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Barbls's avatar

It was designed to collapse so the communists could institute a one-payor system: Medicaid or Medicare for all.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Abolish “comprehensive healthcare insurance”. This would eliminate such abominations as ‘well baby care’ where you bring your healthy babies in for ‘regular checkups’ and they endlessly vaccinate them, starting them on the path of lifelong illness and dependency on the death system.

Allow optional catastrophic care plans.

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Kerrylee's avatar

I have been watching the Dad Saves America podcast where he interviews Dr. Bhattacharya. In the interview, he discusses the need to rehaul the medical system to incentivize health outcomes for patients instead of the wealth outcomes for insurance companies. I was wondering why he was popping up right now, considering his busy schedule. Now I know why. It is to buildout the framework for what is to come.

While CA is full of sociopath, in those rough weeds some heroic plants do emerge. Dr. Bhattacharya is one of them. Not only did he create the Great Barrington Declaration but he also participated in a re-open CA conference with Drs. Ladapo and Fareed and Steve Kirsch. He sometimes would relay the shunning he and his family endured but never with bitterness. This esteemed doctor's work showing that Covid was well underway by the winter of 2019-2020, was cast aside as misinformation so LA could be run by a Frankenstein social worker. That we have to be concerned about mid-terms is frightening. The same protestors of No Kings did nothing during the actual tyranny of the lockdowns. We are living in two different worlds.

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

One of my violin students, a Chinese girl with an aunt and uncle in Wuhan, was chatting with me after her lesson while we waited for her ride. She said “Have you heard what’s going on in China?” This was in the fall of 2019, and her aunt and uncle were quarantined in their house due to a virus. I think she said the city was closed off. When I mentioned this months later to friends in Seattle, no one believed me!

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Kerrylee's avatar

That is so interesting. A friend and her daughter came down with a very strange type of cold in December of 2019. My friend never catches a cold, but this one was a doozy. She and her daughter had spent Thanksgiving with a physician friend and many doctors from China. It was pretty easy to connect the dots later on where that strange flu/cold came from. Frightening how fast the quarantine virus spread to leaders. It was as if it were already a coordinated emergency plan. 🤣

As to your profession, I am so grateful Asian moms are hiring you to teach their children. Without those Tiger Moms, I fear classical music would disappear. A couple of years ago, I watched a baroque ensemble that was touring using churches for its venues. Most of the players were Asian. A young man kept a reverent smile as he played. Watching him, you realize how idiotic the demand to de-white society is. There are things that are useful and beautiful no matter who created them. Right now, I am reading (struggling) on an academic paper on Heidegger and technology. It was written by a professor at a university in Nigeria.

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PapayaSF's avatar

Newsom’s complaint about Texas is disingenuous. Texas has a new map which is *less* gerrymandered. True, it favors Democrats less, but it’s more rational and compact. California was already gerrymandered to favor Democrats, and now it’s even more so.

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Barbls's avatar

Favoring a particular party is perfectly legal gerrymandering. Favoring a particular race is absolutely illegal.

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PapayaSF's avatar

It may be legal, but it’s not sporting.

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Barbls's avatar

It has been this way since the founding of the country. And to remain "sporting" while the other side does the legal thing is suicidal.

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PapayaSF's avatar

After much sturm und drang, California created a redistricting commission. It wasn’t entirely fair, but it wasn’t horrendously biased. Newsom threw that out in a dubious way to “fight” Texas and Trump. If you think it’s “suicidal” to play by fair rules, that says a lot.

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Barbls's avatar

What on earth are you talking about? What "fair rules" are you talking about?

The DOJ isn't suing CA for its CA-constitutional redistricting commission, which legally redistricted CA to entrench its Democrat bias. It's suing CA for its blatantly racist short-term replacement for that commission.

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PapayaSF's avatar

We may be misunderstanding each other. I’m in favor of compact and rational Congressional districts. Texas moved in the right direction, California in the wrong one. I’m glad they’re being sued.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Good Morning. TAW. Have a pleasant weekend friends.

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Patti's avatar

Back at ya

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phlyme's avatar

Good morning Dave!

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shayne's avatar

You too Dave

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RunningLogic's avatar

You too!

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CeeMcG's avatar

Also Gavin Newsom - this made my day - being sued for handing out 17,000 commercial driver’s licenses to foreigners who are driving semis on our roads. https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/newsom-caught-redhanded-trumps-transportation-secretary-sean-p-duffy-exposes

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Patti's avatar

I agree! I’ve driven quite a bit the last 6 months and the semi trucks 😳 near misses several times and I started looking at the drivers and well…. One can imagine what I saw. So I am a big fan of taking away illegally obtain licenses. I mentioned to my husband in May/ June and then we read the trucking report and all this started coming out. Terrible. Unsafe. Tired of Americans footing the bill and following the laws when others don’t and other make money off our backs

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yep I couldn’t agree more.

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SB's avatar

That’s ok, they’re about to legalize driver less semis in TX

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David Cashion's avatar

TAW

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!!!! I saw that yesterday too!!! 😁

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Lynne Morris's avatar

On the healthcare front this is welcome news and I pray will be successful. Doctors did this to themselves by not controlling health costs but have rendered themselves cogs in the wheel of 3rd party for profit entities who control the shots so maybe they will be glad to escape. My concern is Congress. The "shutdown" gimmick reveals how deeply in the pockets of said 3rd party for profit entities the Democrsts are. I have known for a long time that the Democrats have no regard for the citizenry but even I was stunned at their rank callousness. And say what you will about Republicans they toed the line. For once. I also take Cassidy's involvement as a good sign.

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Emumundo's avatar

I pray someone will introduce a bill that when Congress shuts down the government THEY don’t get paid. If the government shuts down Congress is not performing their job function and they should not be compensated. When the empty suits talk about leverage and “this is going to hurt but it’s necessary” they should have some skin in the game.

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Barbls's avatar

Senator John Kennedy (LA) pointed out that during Obama's shut down, that took place (don't know if it was a EO or legislation) and the government reopened right quickly.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Cassidy was the biggest pusher of the jab. On the pocket of pharma.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I know. That is what worries me about him. But if he can be wrangled they all can. FWIW I am not as harsh on those who supported the vaxes as I am on those who lied that they were the only solution. Those liars need to be in jail or relieved of every cent they possess or both.

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Dawn B's avatar

They all get kickbacks, insider trade, large gifts, or blackmailed or you name it of what they promote. We are just insect parasites to them that need to be exterminated, but in reality, they feed on us getting fat, so they are actually the parasites.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Sounds like MAGA.

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Dawn B's avatar

Sounds like ALL of them and smells like horse manure.

Bard, do think its one sided?

IMO, political parties are there for show pretending to represent people who vote conservative or liberal and to divide us like you just did by your comment.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

The World Order constantly intensify all problems through the foundations, so that political and economic crises prevent the people of the world from organizing against them. The World Order must paralyze their opponents. They terrorize the world with propaganda.

The World Order

Eustace Mullins

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Dawn B's avatar

Old version of behold a pale horse book by william cooper has the protocols of the learned elders of zion which describes exactly what they are doing now with division and education and misinformation and wars and vaxxes...

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SB's avatar

a lot of healthcare costs are due to uninsured and noncitizens going to the ER for anything and everything. Years ago, I heard a woman from a Miami hospital speak to Congress. She told the story of an illegal who came to this country because he was sick. Went to the ER. Had major heart issues and by law, they were required to treat him because discharging him was a death sentence and there was a solution. Half a million later he was healthy enuf to discharge but the hospital had to eat those costs. Of course. It got passed along to those who had good insurance

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Lynne Morris's avatar

Yes and no. It is true that ERz must provide service and some illegal aliens no doubt exploit that. But costs are just too high anyway. The people who bear the brunt of it, including the ER horror story you related are the uninsured who pay. Hospitals have for over a decade now deployed charge lists which is a list of charges various classes of consumers pay. Insurance companies pay less, the logic being that they bring volume. The big companies pay the lowest rates. This is where that out of network BS comes into play. But the bottom line is that your health care is determined by the bottom.line of your carrier. The Affordable Care Act was supposed to control costs but it has done everything but. It is IMO a grift. And that was the deal from the get go. The Democrats literally grovelled for 40+ days to keep it going.

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Good morning friends

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good morning!!

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LuAnne's avatar

"Is it my imagination, or is Gavin Newsom going grey? Not just his hair— all of him? It happens to us all, I suppose, but it seems to be happening faster for California’s oleaginous Governor. He does face a lot of problems lately."

I laughed at this because I've also noticed lately that Trump has definitely had an effect on many people's physical appearances. I watched a recent Pelosi interview and she looked & sounded so beat down. She could barely muster words, just sighs. Jeffries and Schumer....they both look aged & exhausted. Lol. Even AOC is looking haggard.

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Lori H's avatar

Agree AOC in particular lately

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Julie's avatar

Lack of sleep does that to a person.

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Eva H's avatar

So I have a preexisting condition that I have had my entire life. I rely on a prescription medication to be able to do normal things like drive. I would personally much rather be able to have a catastrophic medical insurance policy that would cover non-maintenance medical emergencies and be able to use apps like Good RX to help me afford my prescription. Paying a concierge doctor $290 a year to take care of my entire family and keep my prescription current would save us thousands of dollars. Right now we are just paying $450 a month plus FSA to have the privilege of paying copays and deductibles every time we need a check up because a kid has been sick for a bit too long. It's rather ridiculous.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I went through 6 years of cancer treatments. Monthly premium:$1,000 (for one person). Deductible $7600 That's roughly $20k per year before all the other expenses. And there are tons of uncovered expenses. Am I unusually poor (well now I am 😏) or does this seen rather excessive?

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Doctors determine cancer treatments and make up to $5000 for each one.

Would never visit an oncologist.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I would go a different route now, but in 2009 there was no Tippens protocol or much of anything alternate . My onc hated me for pursuing some other things like diet and acupuncture for side effects

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Eva H's avatar

How else does one treat cancer without an oncologist? I can't imagine why treatments other than surgery should be so expensive.

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Barbls's avatar

My sister was diagnosed with aggressive cancer in 2012, and underwent surgical removal of the tumor. She refused all post-surgical radiation and chemotherapy, and became a well-informed student of how to live a clean and healthy physical and spiritual life. She had a metastatic recurrence in 2021 and again had surgical removal of the tumor and half her liver. Again refused chemo and radiation and resumed healthy living.

Her original diagnosis in 2012 included an expiration date of about 3 months. It's now thirteen years later, and she's still living a very full life.

She, and people like her, are NEVER included in any cancer protocol or drug studies. It's possible they are the majority, not the minority, of people who survive cancer diagnoses.

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STH's avatar
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I chose Mastectomy w/reconstruction over lumpectomy/radiation/hormone blockers. If caught early you have more options. That was three years ago. I’ve been taking Fenbendozole periodically too. I feel pretty great. Oh and even with good insurance my out of pocket expenses were around $20,000!

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Eva H's avatar

I'm sorry you had to deal with all that, but I'm glad to hear you are feeling well!

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Sodium bicarbonate to balance your ph. The body can heal itself.

Testing, fear, chemo, cutting is their game. Recent data show no benefits from any protocols in life expectancy.

Physician, heal thy self

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Chemo is a massive money maker

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Eva H's avatar

Chemo seems like a slow and miserable death. I can't say for sure what I would do, but I would almost think if it happened to me I'd go as conservative as I could and then just live the rest of what time I'd have left enjoying my husband and kids. Everyone I know who has been on chemo lives from txment to txment just to die in a state of physical misery. It's very sad.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

That's what I'd do now. Maybe Joe Tippens protocal. I've had a great life 🙏🏻How old are you, if I might ask?

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Michelle's avatar

My daughter is currently undergoing cancer treatment. We pay $988/mo (~$1200 before subsidy) to cover just me, her, and her little brother. Our deductible was $600/person with OOP max of $7000/person. Next year the premium is going up to $1400/mo. And deductible going up to $1000/person. We’ll have to pay 20% after deductible paid for in network.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s unsustainable. These costs are so out of control 😕

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes and the minimum amount to be able to deduct health expenses from your taxes is set ridiculously high imo.

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Eva H's avatar

Is that with an Obamacare plan?! Geeze Louise! That's nuts!

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Yup. As a self employed person I had few options

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Eva, it's more than ridiculous. It's evil.

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Melissa S's avatar

You can use discount apps like GoodRx or SingleCare regardless of whether you have insurance or not. We never use our insurance plan for prescriptions. It is cheaper to use a discount card. Significantly cheaper. (Of course you may be on certain drugs that there is no discount for.) But always check. Don’t assume that with insurance it will be cheaper. Also, check out all your pharmacy options while using the discount cards. It can vary incredibly.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

These days, at 68, no drugs.

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Eva H's avatar

You are correct. Currently it just makes more sense to go through our insurance'd pharmacy. My prescription is for epilepsy and I have to use a specific generic or I get really bad side effects (love that so many doctors pretend there is no difference between generics and name brands). They have it set up so I automatically get the exact generic I need and it's not terribly expensive (like $6 a month).

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Michelle's avatar

Yes, sometimes your prescription copay is more than what you’d pay with a discount card.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes! I wish we could just have a range of varied choices in order to decide what coverage best fits our personal situations!

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Eva H's avatar

Agreed. My kids and husband are both super healthy. There is no reason for their insurance to be so expensive.

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Jeff S's avatar

That's too logical.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Apparently 😕

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It doesn't take Sherlock's avatar

All good stuff. Now Trump has to (very low hanging fruit), remove the Autopen's strangulation of incandescent bulbs and allow them to be produced and sold here. I can't be the only one who hates the awful glow from the LED monstrosities that people have to put in their porch lights now, giving the neighborhood an eerie "zombies/space aliens are about to get us" glow. It's unnatural (and yes, even with the softer 'Kelvin' you can still tell a difference).

I like my "dual purpose" incandescents for the Fall & Winter. I get light, and I get heat.

I stocked up a number of years back, but I want our kids and neighbors to have the choice again. The whole argument on 'saving energy' is ridiculous when you figure people are jumping head long into using AI to create things on a personal level and a couple of those requests blows away any net energy 'savings'.

And incandescents are better for mental health too. That is another reason the Left probably pushed them to get rid of them. Poison our food, poison our air (sketchy chem trails), and poison our brain functioning.

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Eva H's avatar

I absolutely LOATHE LED lights. I want my incandescent bulbs back!

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It doesn't take Sherlock's avatar

One of the things that is impacted are lamps too. I needed to replace a table lamp, and had a hard time finding one that listed being able to handle 100 Watts, or a 3-way with 150 watt max. Lamp manufacturers are making the wiring gauge less to save money. I often see "25 watt max", so even if the 75 watt or 100 watt bulb fits, you risk a fire by using a regular bulb. So people, double check when you buy lamps that the wiring can handle the higher wattage.

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Eva H's avatar

I usually only use low wattage bulbs because I like dimmer light, but not having the option for a higher wattage bulb is NUTS.

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Hopey's avatar

SO agree!!!

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