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Jeff Childers's avatar

ERRATA

— The DeSantis campaign agreed to debate Newsom back in August, but plans were only announced this week. Fixed.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thanks for keeping on top of all these events. You are really the New Media for so many Jeff. Thank you for your tireless commitment.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Exactly. I don't watch lame stream news anymore, not even Fox. C & C and Newsmax are my go tos now. Wouldn't have survived the Covid hysteria without your facts and humor, Jeff.

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The Fifster's avatar

Yea Newsmax?? Is Newsmax just yesterday's FOX? After all just like all their media siblings they made millions, (billion$) in advertising revenue paid for with We The People's taxpayer $$$$$$$$. GMAFB THE CARES ACT STILL LIVES!

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Janet's avatar

Cheryl, I have said the same so many times (re surviving the insanity I was witnessing). C & C/ Mr Childers kept me sane (some may argue that point), while also enduring a horrible divorce at the same time. I feel truly indebted to his efforts, work and comedic blog.

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Lynn46's avatar

Well, I have to say I do watch Mark Levin on Sunday and a new one on Sat. The man is brilliant. Was wondering how long they were going to allow him on even Sun and they give him another time slot.

So...... 🤔

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Janet's avatar

SO true.

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HLG's avatar

You're an example to the broken news media. Nobody expects 100% accuracy, we do expect integrity. Thank you, counselor.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Hear, hear!

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Actually, it’s ‘hear, hear’ 🙂

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yikes! Thank you Cathleen. See what happens when you type faster than you think? ():

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Yes. Happens to me, too!🙂

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Peter GL's avatar

I call it "dyslexic fingers"

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Or solution...I’d say he’s the solution.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Effort to prop up Fox AND test case for who the D's trot out as a Bob Peters replacement - win/win for the losers? Not sure I want to watch that smarmy looking Newsom for more than a few minutes, he gives me the creeps! I might just have to listen to it. Hope DeSantis wipes the floor with him!!

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MakalekaAnne's avatar

If Hannity has any self respect left, he will grill Newsome on the terrible conditions of California and the trail of constituents hightailing it out of that state at record speed. You know Newsome will say things any America loving person will want to hear, but Hannity better bring it back to the horrible policies that he has instituted in California over the years! No one cares about the transgender law that he just vetoed, only because we really know that he wanted to pass it! He cares nothing about the kids!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Hannity lost all credibility, in my opinion, when he refused to admit the truth that the 2020 election was rigged. He is clearly owned by Fox and doesn’t have the integrity or the spine to stand up to the Murdoch regime.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Not to mention his views on the shot.

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The Fifster's avatar

He's still pro jab?

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Donna in MO's avatar

I only listen to him when I am in the car - we have 2 talk radio stations and I flip back and forth between him and Dave Ramsey if I am out and about in the afternoon, so I am not an expert on his views. BUT in 2021 he just did not bring it up as far as I could tell. He was too cowardly to take a stand. No Dr. McCullough or Dr. Ryan Cole or other courageous doc interviews. It was a huge issue in 21 and I was flabbergasted that almost none of the talk radio folks even took a stand other than say 'against the mandates'. Lost all respect for Ben Shapiro as he said often that he got it 'to protect vulnerable loved ones'. Of course he has changed his tune now, but too late. He went from 3 hours on the air here down to one hour, suspect this issue hurt his popularity.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, I was also going to add this.

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Sunlover's avatar

I’m sure he has shares in “Monoclonal Antibodies”! Great news if you had that one on your bingo card!

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Cynthia's avatar

I lost any remaining miniscule shred of respect for Hannity back in 2020 when he interviewed George Floyd's "minister" on his show. He went on and on about how poor George was in the process of turning his life around when he died. That segment was the nail in the Hannity coffin for me.

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HLG's avatar

Hannity should ask the questions and get out of the way. Debate moderators suddenly think they are the stars and should be insta-fact-checking candidates.

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BBS's avatar

Hannity's fake humility is given away by his total inability to stop talking. He never listens. He asks a question and then, without taking a breath, answers it himself. The person he is interviewing sits there, awkwardly, waiting for an opening that rarely comes. I can' t stand him and anyone he interviews has to be left wondering why they wasted their time. To think Fox pays this self-important jerk $25 million a year.

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WP William's avatar

Sean Vanity; also claiming Dems want to make Puerto Rico a State but not informed enough to read it in the 2016/2020 Rep. Platform?

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HLG's avatar

I think Hannity is a blowhard. I won't be watching for him but for the debaters.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yes and a war whore, like Lindsey Graham.

Tucker, with his crazy laugh, would have been a much better choice for numerous reasons, the laugh being one of them.

Later Jay

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Susan Stephens's avatar

I don’t watch debates at all anymore. Too much gotcha, loaded questions, favoritism, & nothing said or done would affect my choice.

I read, research, etc.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Hannity has one talent: Talking over his interviewees. It is unfortunate that such a washed-up hack is moderating what could be a revealing debate.

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on the doss's avatar

He will definitely make sure to tell us all, as we have heard forever about his dish wasking jobs and his construction stints, it will be mostly about himself. Time he grew up and realized that we don't give a s--- about him.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

He BRAGS that he does his own grocery shopping! Hey, Sean, guess what? We ALL do!

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Truthseeker's avatar

Hannity is entertainment news… it’s not the same as the news. And sadly that’s really all that’s on TV now. He wants to be a personality. An Opinion maker. Not just report the news. They’re different things.

Fox and CNN are trying to sell their channel as news but it’s not. Not on either charnel. It’s entertainment news. Filled with TV personalities (only one step from an actor, in my opinion) and their opinions.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Agreed. Real news reportage is found in Substack blogs (C&C being one of the best); on Rumble; sometimes on YouTube; on Breitbart's "Just The News" programs on SiriusXM; on OAN; sometimes on Sky News Australia. There you've got half a dozen reasons to ditch the TV set and the Dish!

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The Fifster's avatar

Section 8 housing landlord i'm told......

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Dr Linda's avatar

I doubt Hannity has the intestinal fortitude. Maybe I’m wrong.

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MsReid's avatar

He HAS interviewed Newsome on his show on Fox. And it sounded like a joke to me... a complete kiss up extravaganza. Newsome ran over him and Hannity just wimped along not pressing for honest, straightforward answers. I used to like to listen to him, but he's become so arrogant and .... very "limp". (The only work I could think of).

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Yah right! He will say what ever he’s told to say. Boycotting FOX

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Bgagnon's avatar

You are 100% correct! Sadly, I live in CA and can vouch for your accuracy!

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Renee Marie's avatar

I live in Commifornia as well! It’s all good!😉

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Renee Marie's avatar

Hannity and all of MSM are the enemy. You haven’t realized that by now?

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The Fifster's avatar

Pelosi's Nephew?? eff me!

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Cinghale's avatar

Does Gruesome remind anyone else of a werewolf? I always think “werewolf” when I see his picture...

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nancylee's avatar

reminds me more of a ken doll. in fact, are we sure he's human?

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Datagal's avatar

The looks -and brains- of a Ken doll.

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CMCM's avatar

I live in CA....I'm fairly certain Ken has double the brains of Newscum.

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Cynthia's avatar

I think a lot of Botox is involved!

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Susan Banks's avatar

He’s been gone for so long now. I think 19’!

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CeeMcG's avatar

I just think “Satan”.

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on the doss's avatar

I think gobshite.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Yes, he looks demonic to me, like a younger Kenneth Copeland.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Naw, he doesn't have enough of the Anton Levey-look.....

Later Jay

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Yes. Werewolf, Satan, and the "low people" in Stephen King novels. They wear masks so they look sort of human-like.

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MsReid's avatar

Or Dracula.

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Paula Mitchell's avatar

He's the slimiest snake out there

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Lynn46's avatar

Vampire!!!!

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GG's avatar

One of Tucker Carlson's first videos on X posited that our government has already been taken over by coup and to expect the installation of Newsom (not his exact words, but close.)

I can't help but look at this debate and wonder if the media and government are just going to ignore Biden/Trump and promote Newsom/DeSantis and this is the first foray into such an excursion. I don't think the population would go for it, but there's lots of stuff going on now that I don't think the population would go for but no one stops... Also, what does the government/media do about ballots? They can't just put whoever they want on the ballot; there is a process. But we're brazenly diverging from the process. I can't help but wonder why.

Had to come back and edit my comment because I just found this: https://twitter.com/JamesBradleyCA/status/1706278086042366295

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DEBORAH E. dds's avatar

I also, believe so much of it is mind-control and theater. We can't even find out what is in the jet exhaust, or have a real election. Going back to my garden.

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GG's avatar

Unfortunately, you're right. Gardening is more productive than politics anyway!

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, gardening is my refuge! Sadly this year has even sucked in that regard, as we have had very little rain & the squirrels and other critters have worked overtime stealing produce and digging things up. Came home to one planter that was destroyed and found walnuts buried in the dirt. I don't even know where the closest walnut tree is at?!

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I feel your pain Donna. You would have a walnut tree in a couple years if the Lord tarries.

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Debra's avatar

Bright side....you have walnuts.....delivered no less! :)

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GG's avatar

In case that link doesn't work, the tweet (or xeet?) says:

Political author Greg Rubini has reported inside info that:

Kamala will be forced to resign as VP, and sent to the senate to replace Dianne Feinstein.

Then, Gavin Newsom will be subbed in as VP.

THEN they will REMOVE Joe Biden from office.

QUOTE: “either he will ‘die of Covid’ or ‘he fell from his bicycle’ or whatever. One way or another, he will be forced to resign.”

Then, Newsom will run against Trump!

I HAVE NO TROUBLE BELIEVING ANY OF THIS.

Because since 2020 it’s become obvious that politics has become a 3-d chess game, with human pieces FROM BOTH PARTIES being moved into their places.

So when Newsom says he won’t run for president - this is what he means.

The presidency will be given to him.

Folks, AMERICA is at DEFCON ONE!

Giving Newsom national power is an existential crisis!

WE MUST TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2024, OR AMERICA IS LOST TO US.

I’m in the fight.

I pray that you will join me there.

God bless America 🇺🇸

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Newsome is a WEF muppet.

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BBS's avatar

I agree with you. This is Fox's contribution to DeSantis/Newsom push. A not so subliminal suggestion to the voters.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

And I agree with you BBS. Now that the Murdock boys are taking control I expect Faux to lean even further left. I unplugged the TV 3 years ago, haven't missed it a bit.

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Sunlover's avatar

During the debate, the most questions went to DeSantis. The other candidates had to basically butt in and talk over top of each other. It was very frustrating to watch. The moderator had very little control. We turned it off.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

It has been taken over. Ask Bill Ghates.

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Susan Banks's avatar

I don’t think that is what will happen. My opinion only.

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GG's avatar

That's exactly why I like this site! What do you think will happen? I'm genuinely curious.

I just can't think of any other reason for two people, one who "isn't running" and the other who continues his downwards trajectory in the polls, to hold a much-hyped, nationally televised debate. I think it's good to debate these things publicly (it certainly beats being shouted down, or worse). I question the timing and the participants. What is the point of this non-presidential presidential debate? It seems very shadow-government-y.

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FH's avatar

Exactly what my friend theorized last night.

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LMWC's avatar

If Hannity is the moderator, nothing new will be learned as Hannity pontificates. How low you have gone Fox and apparently how little it takes to amuse many.

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Jude Zentmeyer's avatar

Yes, Hannity loves to hear himself over all others.

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Jude Zentmeyer's avatar

I fear it will be, The Hannity show.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Just occurred to me - what about RFK Jr. ? I don't watch TV news and frankly too tied up with local issues of late to pay a lot of attention. Is he going to be on the ballot in D primaries? Are there any polls out there? It would be really awesome to add him to the DeSantis Newsom event but I know, dreaming. I would not vote for him but I love how he brings up the medical corruption issue.

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Michael Framson's avatar

I saw an email from his campaign that gave the impression he is entertaining an independent run, because of the shenanigans of the DNC to sabotage his campaign.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

The DNC sabotaged Bernie way back.

They cheat in their own primaries; practice before the general election

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Donna in MO's avatar

The 'politics is sport' part of me says bring it on! But the more pragmatic part of me says he will take votes from both sides. I campaigned for Ross Perot back in the day when I was more idealistic and naïve. I ended up helping Bill Clinton....

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Michael Framson's avatar

So you were the one that did it.

There was a link somewhere in the thread that went to a twitter comment:

https://twitter.com/JamesBradleyCA/status/1706278086042366295

Political author Greg Rubini has reported inside info that: Kamala will be forced to resign as VP, and sent to the senate to replace Dianne Feinstein. Then, Gavin Newsom will be subbed in as VP. THEN they will REMOVE Joe Biden from office. QUOTE: “either he will ‘die of Covid’ or ‘he fell from his bicycle’ or whatever. One way or another, he will be forced to resign.” Then, Newsom will run against Trump! I HAVE NO TROUBLE BELIEVING ANY OF THIS. Because since 2020 it’s become obvious that politics has become a 3-d chess game, with human pieces FROM BOTH PARTIES being moved into their places. So when Newsom says he won’t run for president - this is what he means. The presidency will be given to him. Folks, AMERICA is at DEFCON ONE! Giving Newsom national power is an existential crisis! WE MUST TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2024, OR AMERICA IS LOST TO US. I’m in the fight. I pray that you will join me there. God bless America

5:02 AM · Sep 25, 2023

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes that tweet was shared on here several times today. This was not the first time I had seen this, it went around online a few months ago as well, although that prediction had Kamala just getting a payoff to go away. Totally plausible, I keep saying I can't believe he is still in office, and the talking heads press covering for him drops my respect for them even lower, if that is possible. Too many like their paychecks over their integrity I guess.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

What about RFKjr? How democratic of Fox not to include him.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I have NO DOUBT that Newsom will be the candidate. Proof in him already making rounds. He LOOKS good to democrats. Honestly, who ELSE do they have who even remotely compares? I know a lot of democrats who love him. I can’t think of a single other possible candidate. Everyone else is ancient and outdated!

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M2's avatar

Don't know why he looks good to dems lol. He's the bad white male oppressor. Not even a dress going for him......

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Lisa Ca's avatar

He’s attractive (to some), smooth, “humble”, loves all the deep socialist policies, and likely was installed by CCP here in CA therefore a perfect fit for USA.

He has always reminded me of a slimy, dirty car salesman.

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆

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Bonz's avatar

But he is fully a scumbag, has not a care in the world for anyone but himself.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And he's a Pelosi relative.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I do not disagree. But still. Mark my words he will be the nominee. And I will admit it if I was wrong!

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Killory, Gretchen, big Mike to name a few

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Big Gretch will make Grusom a great VP.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Big Mike as in Michelle or someone else?

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MsReid's avatar

Michelle MaBelle with an earpiece to BO in the basement?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

LOL. SHE is the only one I could see them otherwise putting. But she is nowhere to be found now. Gavin is everywhere.

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MsReid's avatar

They are so blasted cagey, who KNOWS what their plan is, but you know it will be wicked.

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Fred's avatar

MO, my worst fear. I actually hope it’s GN.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

NOOOO. You don’t. Really. Look how bad CA is. Only comparison who may be worse is NY

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WIMomof3's avatar

Reminds me of when DeSantis swore he wasn’t campaigning then whoop suddenly, just kidding, he was

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Right?! I just hate that. Why can’t people be honest?

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Freebird's avatar

Obviously DeSantis and Newsome are the Fox picks for 2024. Fox ‘wishes’ they could regain some influence. They may have as much as CNN but that’s it.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well I am not trusting where DeSantis's campaign cash is coming from but he is a policy wonk after my own heart. Suppose it's 2 months out as Gruesome Newsom needs to study.

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MsReid's avatar

I can't even stand to listen to him!!! His voice screams smugness in the extreme and he just SOUNDS disingenuous. Makes my skin crawl.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

same

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Donna in MO's avatar

I actually saw this theory somewhere online a few months ago, except they just had Kamala getting some fat payoff. Either way, entirely plausible. Actually surprised it hasn't happened already.

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Jay Horton's avatar

coup d'é·tat, much!!!

Later Jay

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Lorita's avatar

Yes the creeps!

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T Diesel's avatar

Who wants to see a debate by 2nd and 3rd place horse in the Derby?

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

What are the odds Hannity will keep quiet long enough for either of them to say anything useful? Because I doubt it I’ll let you watch it and look forward to your review and comments. I’ll finish the whodunnit I’m currently into.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction so that we will be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

— 2 Corinthians 1:3-4 NAS95

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When I saw your name I felt a smile coming on my face, and thought “Here comes the comfort of the Word, packed in amongst the sorrow and angst we all feel.”

And others pick up on it and, usually, every few posts someone else will place a Word of comfort or a Word of warning. But even the Word of warning is a comfort, because you warn those that you love.

Thank you Janice. Thank you Father for the Word of Comfort, for the Word of Warning❤️

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

God’s timing. I wasn’t sure I would be able to comment today because I was traveling out of town for a medical appt. Now I’m just waiting in my fashionable hospital gown and feeling blessed by your comment!

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Cailin63's avatar

Thank you, Janice, for the scriptural words of comfort and encouragement. So badly needed these day. ❤️

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Susan Banks's avatar

I pray everything turns out just the way you planned. God Bless you Janice!

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Thank you so much, Susan. 💕

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ILoveherbs's avatar

Janice, May you be well, may you be happy, may you be peaceful, may you live with ease. <3 I hope all is well with you.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Thank you so much! I’m ok, just puzzling the doctors, my favorite pastime. 😏😀

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Jamison's avatar

🙏🙏🙏

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Jay Horton's avatar

"fashionable hospital gown " I felt the cool breeze when I read that. You every put one of those things on and wonder, "did they change the rules and I put this thing on backwards"? So many questions in life.

Good on you Janice!

Later Jay

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

😂When I was growing up, we had a family friend who was a country music show comedian and was undergoing cancer treatment. He said, in his silly country boy voice, “I figured out how to get those hospital gowns tied. You just take a stroll through the waiting room and somebody’ll tie it for ya!” I always think of him when I have to put one on.

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fineart2day's avatar

Amen❤️‍🔥

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Raptor's avatar

In other words... pass it on Christian.

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Jamie's avatar

Exactly what I needed at the exact right time. Thank you Janis, for being a vessel through which God can work 🙏.

So desperately needed for us all.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Precisely why we absolutely must remove all books written prior to 2008 from any and all libraries. Or perhaps, before 2019.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Welcome to da BOT.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Bread and circuses.

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Dr Linda's avatar

O Eric! I was looking for a comment. : )

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Alison Smith's avatar

Interesting how the NZ PM resigned abruptly, Scottish PM resigned abruptly and now Dan Andrews from AU. It’s almost as of some power that be told them to. None of the three looked happy to be starting a “new chapter of their lives.” 🧐

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Jeff C's avatar

Yup, something is going on here that is forcing them out, and I don't think it's the will of the people. Either they have outlived their usefulness to the oligarchs or they were going to be exposed of massive corruption (or other unspeakable acts) and made a deal to leave quietly to preempt it.

People don't just suddenly quit these types of jobs.

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LW's avatar

Something worse is coming. As was Hochul for New York.

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NewScott's avatar

Please, she prefers to be referred to as Ho

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, I guess my tee-shirt slogan "Joe and the Ho gotta go!" could apply to Ms. Kathy as well to Joey's sidekick. or sidecackle.

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Susan Banks's avatar

She was installed for a reason. Cuomo went to Gitmo

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My money is with the 'outlived usefulness' though it pains me to take that side. Who cares about corruption any more? Only the people who are not in a position to do anything about it. Cf the Biden and Clinton families.

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Emumundo's avatar

And the Bush family

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Based Florida Man's avatar

!Jeb! is back (thanks DeSantis).

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LW's avatar

Have you Read ‘Famiky of Secrets: The Bush Dtnasty, America’s Invisible Government, And the Hidden History of the Last 50 Years? Others?

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Debra's avatar

Let's not forget the Obama royals.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I'm betting on corruption. I think they were forced to quit because discovery/ examination of their corruption word expose wrongdoing on the part of people more powerful than themselves.

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Emumundo's avatar

They’re afraid of what will happen when the masses wake up and find out they’ve been duped and possibly injected with something that might kill them and their loved ones. Safe and effective my ass.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I’m afraid the masses are comatose.

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Donna in MO's avatar

One of the side effects?

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

A superficial pushback.

No such thing as a side effect. Direct effects, all of them, just not the targeted/advertised effect. In the case of 💉I would argue quite intended. We didn't get that 100 mph verbal, small print disclaimer at the end of every "advertisement" for these products because the manufacturer wasn't doing the advertising. The captured media heads, government and medical community were the advertisers.

I admonish thee, drop the concept of side effect from thy mind and speech as thee insisteth on the truth. Amen.

In solidarity.

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Debra's avatar

Yes, I definitely believe there is something happening to the brain cells.

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Susan Banks's avatar

It had to be Donna!! We’ve been shaking our heads a lot lately, I do know that!!

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RSgva's avatar

It very much resembles the abrupt corporate manner of firing people before they can barely clean out their desks… This avoids in-house maneuvering, and taking/downloading corporate secrets etc.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Exactly- when you have so much power in a country, you would never give that up voluntarily.

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Debra's avatar

Forced retirement happens all the time to us little people. It is refreshing to see it happen to the "BIG" people.

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John Bugni's avatar

The view from 40,000 feet. Must watch. DJT knows what he is doing.

The Greates Show On Earth 2023 by Nick Alvear

Good Lion Films

https://rumble.com/v3gfzec-documentary-the-greatest-show-on-earth-2023.html

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Mary H.'s avatar

I remember a few years ago watching Kim Clements prophecy… Never doubt … God is in control!

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Susan Banks's avatar

8,000 CEO’s gone in 5 years

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MaryLS's avatar

Trudeau is next up --- We hope.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I was thinking, hoping, praying for the same.

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Fed up's avatar

Amen to that.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

CAN JOIN HIS FELLOW NAZIS IN UKRAINE:

RUSSOphobia: Best Ukraine Hypocrisy Memes (As Trudeau Honors a Fellow NAZI!)

Questions you never ask an elderly Ukraine “freedom fighter…,” glory to Urine, NAZI to see again and more Ukraine hypocrisy memes as Canada's parliament gives an elderly NAZI a standing ovation!

https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/ukraine-hypocrisy-trudeau-honors-fellow-nazi

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Momcat's avatar

and Biden (fingers crossed!)

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Teresa Carstensen's avatar

Biden will definitely be replaced; but the "new guy/girl" will be worse! :(

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Momcat's avatar

true, but there's always hope.

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NAB's avatar

Oh, may it be so!!

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Mike Canary's avatar

Mark Carney with the backing of the WEF will be parachuted in as the new Liberal leader and PM to an unsuspecting Canadian people, who will be busy celebrating Trudeau’s departure. Until they wake up and realize who he really is ☠️

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RU's avatar

My theory is that this is the reason the Epstein "business" existed. The 5 Eyes intelligence agencies either created or enabled the Epstein "business" to manufacture dirt on leaders so that they can be controlled and removed at will. Notice how none of these people look happy to be leaving, none have given any notice (or been given notice), and yet none protest or go to the press to plead their case. Someone has something on them; and whatever it is, it's serious.

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Raptor's avatar

I would say "gather". They needn't manufacture it for most.

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RU's avatar

Manufacture might be too strong a word. I guess what I was trying to say was that they clearly let this guy go for decades. They allowed him to fly an airliner internationally and even buy property to be set up for these purposes. So, they had to have known about him for a long time...but did nothing. It's impossible they didn't know what he was doing. And it's impossible they didn't do anything about it b/c they couldn't or didn't think it was bad enough. They've arrested, tried, and imprisoned people for much lesser crimes. So, there must be a reason they let him thrive. It wouldn't surprise me if they "nudged" certain leaders in Epstein's direction. (FWIW, as an aside, it also likely means Trump wasn't involved in any compromising way, or they wouldn't need all this lawfare to try to get rid of him.)

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Raptor's avatar

I would argue against the notion that they "LET" Epstein do those things. If you haven't already seen her being interviewed or read her books, Whitney Webb is worth spending time with. Here are a few good interviews:

re epstein etc: https://rumble.com/v3c788s-jeffrey-epstein-is-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-it-gets-worse-whitney-webb.html

https://rumble.com/v2jot3u-whitney-webb-uncovering-the-elusive-power-players-behind-jeffrey-epstein-an.html

She wrote 2 books about it (two volume). She also talks very wide rangingly about the financial systems, central banks, CBDC tokens...

Her website with all of her articles: https://unlimitedhangout.com/

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Whitney Webb: Epstein was recruited and supported. Her two volume One Nation Under Blackmail, all citied with primary and secondary sources, is a rough read. That might be an empath experience though. The depth and breadth of corruption could even surpass what she uncovered.

The world we're presented with is a controlled illusion. The cracks are expanding to larger tears. The great ripping apart is nearing, where only the weak of mind, blind and completely brainwashed, will cling to the illusion.

I think it's what THEY (The Hierarchy Exploiting You) are doing with the children - have been doing since long, long before our time - that will be the last straw for any adult who sees. Epstein was their tool.

I dunno how it's going to play out. My guess is the force of humanity, the numbers, the collective outrage and commitment to saving the children is a big part of what will gut their operation. We are the many, THEY are the few. We are the sane, they are sick and deranged. This time, technology provides us with a reach the People have never had before. They fear us, thus all the bread and circuses. For thousands of years. It only takes some percentage (what, I don't know, but it's not 100%, not even close) to start the snowball.

Thanks for posting Whitney Webb links.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It only took less than 25% of the citizens of the 13 Colonies to exert enough influence and backing to create the Revolutionary War. I am guessing, after what I've been reading the past 3 1/2 years, that it's around that same percentage that are now AWAKE to the vast corruption and vile behavior in the world "leaders" and technocratic/huge pharma conglomerate!

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Susan Banks's avatar

They did too let him!! You know the good ole boys club!!

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Raptor's avatar

I would say not let, but purposed him. Good ole boys would be the lighter and friendlier version of the depravity and plain spy/bribe etc going on here. Do yourself a favor and listen to the Whitney Webb podcasts. You are on the right track, just up a few levels from where they are running their business.

It is not "we see him doing stuff and are looking the other way cuz he is us" THAT is a version of the OBC. It is "we will use this guy to get what we want, make him very powerful and attractive to certain people. He can use anything to lure the target in. " That is not a let/look the other way back slapping fun. It is purposed. Not purpo(Z) but with an "s" sound.

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Susan Banks's avatar

Does she talk about his Cloning Facility?

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Susan Banks's avatar

100% correct! Every person in government including presidents were all involved. When anyone went to Police, they were already paid off!

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daverkb's avatar

I think you are entirely right ... with invisible puppet strings the unseen reality. Maybe the only reality and the whole world made a fool. Okay ... maybe that's taking things too far. Nonetheless, point made.

Your observation is astute.

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Donna in MO's avatar

It's exhausting at times. I can never take ANY story at face value any more.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yep, there is something bigger at play here. I think financial as many parts and moving pieces are starting to move towards solidifying the digitization of the monetary system. It is a 3-D Machiavellian masterpiece and we ain't gonna like final product.

Later Jay

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Donna in MO's avatar

Menendez and his cash and gold bars. Trying to equate cash with shady behavior.

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daverkb's avatar

Nor any political figure, not even those we fancy as being 'ours'. For example, the Fox debate? What is that? It speaks of a great turning of the screw, a great orchestration behind the curtain ... and with invisible pulpiteering all over the lot.

Faith is very interesting, very masterful. She gave a lot while at the same time giving nothing to the enemy to work with. Always a good trick.

The local level is very, very important. That is where irresistible expectations are created which the party elite HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes Faith is amazing, especially when you consider she never even attended a city council meeting before 2020 woke her up and activated her. I met with her several times during her campaign and filled her in on a lot of background docs and issues that she would likely be asked about at public forums. She was a sponge and very astute.

And yes, our local R committee meeting was last night. The State rep from my district got elected speaker and I call him Where's Waldo as it's hard to find him at any event in his own district. He did not get a warm reception to his establishment platitudes. But with a massive war chest, doubt anyone will take him on next year. He terms out in 2026. Build our Bench group is gaining steam in our effort to attract and support local candidates. Filing opens in Dec, glad we are getting a head start this year.

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NAB's avatar

You are not the first to propose such a theory. I think you are on to something.

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Susan Banks's avatar

You got that right!! Epstein was stealing DNA. His place on St James Island was a Clone Facility. They stole Actors DNA by their Orgies and Parties. Really sad story about Mel Gibson.

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A.J.'s avatar

Bingo.

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FourWinds's avatar

Yep... what. a. coincidence. I think all of them know someone is coming for their heads - perhaps figuratively, perhaps literally.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I wonder... if this many people hated him that badly that his name was used as a dirty word, maybe his “alleged” landslide was fixed and instead of getting people investigating they booted him. Nothing to see here folks...

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Alison Smith's avatar

Of course it was fixed, just like Trudeau, Biden, Newsom, Whitmer.., the list goes on and on

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

It must have been a worldwide concerted effort. Mind blowing really.

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Susan Banks's avatar

They used the Vatican Satellite named Lucifer to steal the election in 2020. Plus several other ways. Dominion voting, Internet, paid off poll workers, people paid for by every Democrat that has any power to stuff ballot boxes, they did it all! Have you seen Dinesh Souza’s movie 10,000 Miles? That’s all about the 2020 election

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Would love to know this 'magic' power and be able to spread it further!! 😃

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Susan Banks's avatar

Trump has the magic power honey. He became a President just to clean the swamp!!! That’s what this is. He and the military, his military, have planned the whole take down!! Trump plays 5D chess!! Not too many people can do that.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

🧐🙄

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Michael Miller's avatar

They are on the run just hoping we will all forget their deeds before the grim reaper harvests.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

No doubt they will--like our darling Jacinda--find a cushy post at Harvard or another of its ilk.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

They can always find work as news commentators.

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Sydney Seppo's avatar

Great mashup of NZ ex-pm Jacinda and hitler

https://twitter.com/banthebbc/status/1705985561167581462

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

omg, brilliant ~ thank you ... even now that NZ is safer from her (AFTER she has done her worst), it chills me to hear this recording of her saying, "We will continue to be your single source of truth ... dismiss anything else ... unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth ... "

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Marie's avatar

When is Trudeau going to resign abruptly…hopefully soon!

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Fed up's avatar

Probably right after the next Barbie sequel.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Isn't it "odd timing" in the USA that the Sound of Freedom movie that exposed the vile human/child sex trafficking activities in our continent and beyond was finally "released" at the same time as "Barbie" and "Oppenheimer"....two flicks with disparate story lines--both involving United States preoccupation with our "power" and our fascination for an anatomically INcorrect "doll/woman" and her glossy UNreal world. I do believe the Sound of Freedom won out as far as popularity--I hope it energizes many people to become involved in exposing and bringing to justice the throngs of powerful people behind human trafficking and child sex slave exploits.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Same thought meandered through my feeble brain.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Sure seems like WEF is installing new people so it looks like they won’t be controlling and evil.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

You mean like Mr. Toothy Newsom? Governor Haircut?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Actually worldwide persons getting removed and who knows will be next installed.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yessss!

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seahawke's avatar

Two other Covid dictator premiers in Australia have already resigned ‘suddenly and unexpectedly’ - Mark McGowan and Michael Gunner. Both were arguably worse than Dictator Dan, at least as far as jab mandates went. Two more Covid-era premiers have also resigned. The Australian government has just announced a Covid inquiry, but the actions of individual premiers is ‘out of scope’, even though their actions saw us locked in our own states for months/years on end. We’re about to have a constitutional referendum, to which my answer will be: “What Constitution?”

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Alison Smith's avatar

Constitutional referendum? What do you mean?

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Spoofs desu's avatar

Agreed...My first thought is that some additional info became available to them at the same time and an intense wave of regret washed over them, forcing them to resign by their own volition.

Given what we know, I can't fathom how most of these people can sleep a night, let alone keep functioning in their same roles. Unless they're psychopaths of course.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Of course they are psychopaths!! No rational person would act like they do.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

BINGO!!! They ARE psycho/sociopaths!

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Susan Banks's avatar

His Name is T R U M P!!! He has been in control since 2018 guys. They all had to capitulate to him. They are all involved in Sex crimes!! Every last one of the bastards are done. They have know it too. They had plenty of time to get things in order.

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Jude Zentmeyer's avatar

Totally original thought, Susan. Incorrect in my opinion, but original, especially posting on this site.

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A.J.'s avatar

The Canadians Nazi saluting Speaker of Parliament just resigned after he was so surprised reading his Nazi pre-scripted speech the other day by the lunatics in power there who love bashing the Ruskies from the safety of Canada. Another scapegoat bites the dust.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Ignorance from the States. Who? What happened? He was reading a script he hadn't pre-screened and... couldn't continue? Stopped in his tracks? The script bashed the "bad guy" Russians when, uh-oh, that was the wrong move? So he's the scapegoat? Probably doesn't matter. Sounds like he was set up. Nothing for it but to make an undistinguished exit. As you say, another one bites the dust.

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The great economist Milton Friedman once noted, "Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the costs come in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player."

Check out his short (3 min) video "Only Government Creates Inflation" for more. The gist: only government can create inflation, because only government owns the printing press. Although we are to blame for expecting more services and stuff while paying little to nothing for it. In other words we incentivize our politicians to drive inflation...ouch.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Thanks for this. I've honestly never thought hard about this except for military. Mr. Friedman added 'enforce justice' which he narrowed smartly to 'enforce contracts' and 'protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property'. Sounds SO SIMPLE AND SMART. We need KISS back (keep it simple stupid) in our entire set of govt's (fed, state, local).

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Fla Mom's avatar

The Declaration of Independence only has one reason to have governments at all - "to secure these rights."

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RU's avatar

Our current situation - with government trampling on people, lording over them, having government secrets, arresting citizens for political reasons, etc. - is a complete inversion of what the Constitution and Declaration of Independence lay out as our intended government. We are 180-degrees off-course right now.

In reality, according to our founding documents, our government works for us. It is there only to secure the rights laid out in those documents: 1A, 2A, etc. (So, for example, it is actually the government's job to protect and defend our 2nd amendment rights; not to try to take them away.) And if it fails to do that, according to our own foundational documents, we have the right to overthrow and replace it.

Friedman would likely add government also has no money. Our government does not generate even one penny of wealth. It is a purely parasitic entity that only has what it takes from its people. (Thus, when it prints money and puts more money in circulation, it devalues every dollar already in circulation, and causes inflation.)

In other words, according to the laws governing the government itself, it has no power that we don't grant it, and it has no money that we don't give it. The reason we are in this mess right now is that the majority of people do not know these two things. They assume the government is their "boss" and has money to give them.

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Roger Beal's avatar

The majority of people do not know these things, true. And the majority of people do not care to trouble themselves either to learn these things, nor to act to correct problems as they arise.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They prefer to be entertained and let others tell them what to do 😕

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! Well said!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

BINGO!!! Citizenry is blind and dumbed by their own silliness and preoccupation with pop culture, everyday shenanigans and tech toys! WE GET THE LEADERSHIP WE DESERVE--PERIOD!!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

^^^^ This guy for world global president of America.

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Debra's avatar

Sadly, we have given them too much rope for the past 60 years and they are hanging us all. Almost 20 million people work for some form of government agency and they will not let go of that paycheck and those benefits easily.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Humans, by nature, covet. That’s why there’s a commandment against it. It’s difficult to overcome--so much so that God recognized we need His help to do so. I’ve heard other says that government shouldn’t legislate morality and schools shouldn’t indoctrinated. But that’s impossible because someone’s standard of right and wrong and someone’s worldview must be adopted to govern and guide the people. So...whose standard will be adopted? That’s the debate our nation is having right now. The Bible answered it long ago. Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD. We have strayed so far from that. It’s no wonder we are falling apart.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Amen!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I remember my older brother, then not long home from Vietnam, making those 3 points at my mother's dining table in ~1973.

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Momcat's avatar

One of the comments on the video is priceless:

"Government is the only institution that can take a valuable commodity like paper, and make it worthless by applying ink.” — Ludwig von Mises

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I subscribe to the Mises Institute's magazine and donate to its foundation whenever I can. I LOVE their "young citizens" program where they invite the "best and brightest" of our nation's high school graduates to their headquarters for a symposium on our Constitution and the free market enterprise economic structure!

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ktnjaeng's avatar

I remember watching 'Free to Choose' with my parents, on PBS back when you only had 7 or 8 channels to choose from. Thinking this is soooo boring. But those seeds were planted. I find myself going on to YouTube and watching again. It's my hope that is screws with their algorithms.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

Thank you, I just finished watching this. Mr. Freidman was definitely ahead of the game. I don't know if he was a left, right, or center leaner, but I'm inclined to think he was a conservative right of center. Regardless, I really enjoyed his remarks and rather enjoyed listening to all of them. How nice it was hearing them all speak so level-headedly and matter-of-factly. That is rare these days. Thank you for sharing this link.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I’m not finished listening yet. Glad you enjoyed it.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Thank you SO MUCH, Rosalind - I'm watching Part 1 right now...never saw this 43 years ago--I love Mr. Friedman's narration!!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Glad you are watching!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I once was an AVID watcher of PBS--but my disillusion with "government control" and involvement in almost EVERY area of our lives...drove me away from PBS! Remember Alistair Cooke and Masterpiece Theater--good viewing!!

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AngelaK's avatar

The thing is that the leftist pagans believe that the right are the ones legislating morality. (Judeo-Christian).

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CStone's avatar

As we should be.

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Lisa R's avatar

Well said!

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JFly's avatar

"It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property." Maybe, but it has no legal obligation to do so. Hence you see police told to stand down during riots or being "defunded", or being simply too busy to show up when you call. Best to figure out how to protect and defend yourself.

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Cailin63's avatar

Brilliant man! Thank you.

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Heather's avatar

Facilitating in some manner inter-state commerce and making treaties with foreign entities are 2-more valid functions of government....not that I dare to disagree with Milton Friedman

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RunningLogic's avatar

Such wise words!!

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PE Bird's avatar

"John McCain street!" I guess Adolf Hitler Drive was taken.

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PE Bird's avatar

Imagine we will soon see Nancy Pelosi Alley and Bob Peters Loop.

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Annie's avatar

Pelosi alley would be littered with lots of human feces and drug paraphernalia. She is the picture of human feces.

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PE Bird's avatar

In retrospect, I should have called it Nancy Pelosi Back Alley.

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OnTheJump's avatar

I've seen her picture - plastered on sidewalks everywhere amongst the homeless.

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Annie's avatar

I bet she looks better in person. 😂💩

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OnTheJump's avatar

If'n you don't mind - I will leave it to you to find out.....

🙈

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JW's avatar

Pelosi Trail

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FourWinds's avatar

And Fauci Way.

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JW's avatar

There are already many Fauci Roundabouts.

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NAB's avatar

Maybe Psaki roundabouts since she was always "circling back." :)

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JW's avatar

😅

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JW's avatar

I'd like to see Bob Peters Court.

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Porge's avatar

Plausible Deniability Blvd.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

Good one PE Bird. I got a good laugh outta that! 🤣 much thanks 😊

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Annie's avatar

Traitor street would sum it up quite nicely.

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Randy Little's avatar

Traitor St. - so many could brag to their grandkids that they have a street named in their honor. And just one street would do the job.

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JW's avatar

Would not work since it would have to be high density and too crowded.

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FreeBird07's avatar

Should include banners of their faces.. give them full recognition!

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Debra's avatar

and it would be a deadend street.

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M VARR's avatar

I will always remember Johnny for getting up on

the floor of the Senate and

criticizing TEA Party members as hobbits.

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NAB's avatar

Setting aside what he suffered through in Vietnam, he really was a malicious piece of work.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

As a crooked government official, I would be embarrassed to have a street named after me!!

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PE Bird's avatar

Crooked US street is in San Francisco.

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Chevrus's avatar

The Hanoi Songbird !!

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

You guys are great. You really should do tag team stand up. 😁

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Tamsin's avatar

WHAT?

"Dzhona Makkeina St"

Please God, no. But apparently so?

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

😂

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

1. Trafficked children

2. Precipice to financial collapse

3. Money laundering

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Tom's avatar

It's almost like the American "elites" are having a yard sale of everything that does not belong to them, before they burn down the neighborhood.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great analogy 😢

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T Diesel's avatar

Insert song by TeleEvangelist Jimmy Swaggart, “Love Lifted Me”🤣

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

& bio labs

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Johnny-O's avatar

Closer Russia/China ties...

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Roger Beal's avatar

But but but those are all qualifications for re-election, and for being kept in office. Bona fides to TPTB.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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rolandttg's avatar

If you need any further reason never to take any vaccine ever again, read this article from Joseph Mercola today detailing the 16 steps used to manufacture the original polio vaccine. Makes voodoo look scientific. Note:: Thanks to Biden, this article will disappear 48 hours after the publishing time.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/09/26/how-the-original-polio-vaccine-was-made.aspx?ui=e62c101ec629a2658c27c6c446dbd28902f524562837d8862bb1f35a7338a416&sd=20191213&cid_source=prnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2ReadMore&cid=20230926_HL2&foDate=true&mid=DM1469071&rid=1921575487

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Natalie's avatar

Dr. Mercola makes downloading available on all of his articles. There's a "Download PDF" button that says, "Download This Article Before it Disappears." I always do!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I do this too if I really want to read it or share it!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Sorry, I didn’t see your response

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JSR's avatar

I cringe at the “but polio” people who say they’ll skip all vaccines but this one... not only have they renamed polio=transverse myelitis= guillian barre... but the oral “vaccine “ sheds vaccine polio” and the shot form sheds Hand/foot/mouth... many papers on the shedding time for months in the stool...

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

So many people my mom’s age (80) are still traumatized by mentioning polio . But they can’t hear . It correlates to the pesticides in their upstate New York farming community. That vax was a miracle to them in their minds. Too many of them can’t research online or they might be aware of these crimes.

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RunningLogic's avatar

My mom had a relatively mild case as a child (had to walk with crutches) and was very pro vaccine partly because of this 😢 Interesting about the pesticides—do you have any links to information on that?

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Sunlover's avatar

You can buy the book Turtles All the Way Down -Vaccine Myth and Science on Amazon (by Mary Holland-there is another fictional book of the same title so make sure to get the right one). It is extremely informative on how vaccines have been developed and studied. There is a chapter on Polio vaccines. I keep requesting that this book be purchased for our local library, but so far have not been successful - not surprising since it also offers drag Queen story time for toddlers.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I’ve heard of that one but haven’t read it yet.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Sorry I don’t offhand. Chd has some articles, you can find them easily if you don’t use google as a search engine.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thanks! I’ll try to find some info!

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Lorita's avatar

I'm 75 and had a polio jab and came down with a mild case. Thankfully about 15 or so years ago, no more jabs. An old story but I guess it still rattles.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Thank you.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Have read the book Dissolving Illusions which basically describes what the polio vaccine really didn’t do. Of course, there’s so much more that is explained. I once visited a young girl who was in an “iron lung”. It is emblazoned on my memory. Penicillin was first used in the US in 1942 and was a huge contributor to saving lives so in 1955 when the polio vaccine was approved, I presume most people trusted it.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

What a classic! I never gave much thought to vaccines. Basically I was uninformed.

Informed consent doesn’t really exist IMO.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

There’s a great book about the polio vaccine: Dr. Mary’s monkeys. It talks about SV40 insertion in the polio vaccine. Great book!

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Penny North's avatar

It is a must read!

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Sydney Seppo's avatar

Long tail police. Lo siento.

You can remove all characters after the ? And the url still works.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/09/26/how-the-original-polio-vaccine-was-made.aspx

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Debra's avatar

I am surprised so many people still do not know this.

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Dr Linda's avatar

You can download the PDF. I have a library of his articles. The also contain references.

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IsItJustMe's avatar

Can't get to the polio article on Dr Mercola

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Dr Linda's avatar

Which article? They are only up for 2 days unless you are a member. When was it? I’ll search my data base

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Debra's avatar

I put it in the Wayback Machine. Unless they take down the internet it will be there.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

Dr. Offit should be drawn and quartered for his support of mRNA vaccines for children. The “we didn’t know at the time” excuse is no excuse.

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Fla Mom's avatar

"We didn't know at the time" is the exact reason why real, ethical, scientific trials and evidence are (for the rest of us doing research) required *before* giving drugs and biologics to populations.

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TT's avatar

What!!! You don’t trust the science, bigot?!?!?!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly!!!!

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FourWinds's avatar

Agreed! They killed 3 of my family friends and maimed at least 2 others.

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Deb B's avatar

Nickname is "For Profit Off-it" for a reason:-)

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Paul Offit benefits directly from profits of the Rotavirus vaccine which he helped develop. He wants to protect vaccines from skepticism because he’s one of the major players driving the gravy train and doesn’t want to see it derailed. Rotavirus can cause dehydration and a child would need to be hospitalized if they get a very severe case. However a (this is acknowledged by the cdc) side effect of this vaccine is intussuception where the bowel folds in on itself which is a surgical complication and your child could need surgery due to a known side effect of taking this vaccine. So small risk of needing iv fluid with a bad case of rotavirus, versus surgical intervention due to taking the vaccine. Paul Offit is not on ‘our side,’ he wouldn’t be on the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee if Pharma didn’t know he’d play ball.

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TT's avatar

He’s total scum.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Wasn't that with the original rotavirus vaccine? I thought that one was pulled from the market.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

I don’t doubt they pulled a vaccine for unacceptable (read: the average public becoming aware and linking it to the vaccine) dangerous levels of intussuception, but they must consider 1 in 20,000 (and likely higher if that’s what they’re admitting) getting intussuception to be acceptable because that’s what’s acknowledged on the cdc website

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Fla Mom's avatar

I'd love to see the risk-benefit analysis for both the original and the current vaccines, regarding it. I wonder how thoroughly parents are counseled about risk, she said sarcastically.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Your comment made me laugh.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Incorrect. It’s still acknowledged on the cdc’s website. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/rotavirus/about-intussusception.html

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Fla Mom's avatar

That is fascinating. This is the history that I remembered. What is it about that vaccine, no matter the exact vaccine product, that causes the intussusception, I wonder?

"In 1998, the first rotavirus vaccine, RotaShield, was licensed in the United States but a rare adverse event, intussusception, led to its withdrawal. Seven years passed before the next generation of vaccines became available, Rotarix (GSK) and Rotateq (Merck), and 11 years later, 2 additional vaccines from India, Rotavac (Bharat) and Rotasiil (Serum Institute), were recommended by World Health Organization for all children."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34590142/

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Peace's avatar

Would he lose his source of income if his vaccine were "morphed" to a mRNA vaccine? Maybe why he's willing to start "badmouthing" the mRNA jab?

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FourWinds's avatar

So Offit jumped bandwagons when it was convenient. Uh huh. He knows the narrative is falling apart and just wants to be on the right side of history. But do not worry, I have a very long and detailed memory (unless it's where I put my keys) and I will not forget a single one of these scamdemic-pushers.

UFOs.... loud sigh! Just a way to waste more tax money. We're going to get screwed on that one (financially) just like we did on the Ukraine mess.... and where's the money for East Palestine? This Ohioan wants to know.

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Jeff C's avatar

Offit is as corrupt as the others, we've been onto this guy for fifteen years. Offit is different though in that he's smart. He knows when to throw the skeptics a bone to appear reasonable and thoughtful, unlike a clown like Hotez who can't turn it off.

Offit received millions from the sale of his own vaccine for Rotavirus (Rotateq) and has been a reliable rubberstamp for every new vaccine as part of ACIP. He approved and pushed the original Rotashield vaccine that caused intussusception in infants (despite that fact rotavirus is almost always harmless). He repeatedly slandered the parents of ASD kids. He is in every way a huge part of the problem and a despicable person.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/dr-paul-for-profit-offit-measles-and-bbc/

We conservatives have our own version of battered wife syndrome when we swoon whenever someone on the other side says something that seems to align with our beliefs (e.g. Bill Maher). We are so desperate to be validated by the other side that we can't help ourselves. Offit is sleaze, don't fall for a word this guy says.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Fool me once, shame on you...

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TT's avatar

100%

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Steve's avatar

“But do not worry, I have a very long and detailed memory (unless it's where I put my keys) and I will not forget a single one of these scamdemic-pushers.”

OMG FourWinds -- hilarious...bravo!

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Annie's avatar

Agree 💯

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Jeff C's avatar

Terrible to read about Michael McGrath's addition to the died suddenly list. Why though is the next of kin's first impulse these days to beg for money in response? Begging used to be considered shameful, now it's just another part of the grieving process apparently.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Who at age 65 doesn’t at least have some life insurance or money put away? That’s a huge risk! I’m a widow, only got a little life insurance when my husband passed (and he left bills) BUT at least gave me enough to change my circumstances for my daughter and I. I have enough insurance for my kids if something happens to me. I just don’t get why you’d risk your families future?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I too have noticed this. Why should you expect strangers to pay for your death expenses?

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NAB's avatar

From the Go Fund Me page it looks like he and his wife were/are actors so I can imagine income streams are unpredictable. It is still strange, though, that he hadn't begun to contemplate a scenario where either he or his wife would face this possibility. Sadly, I know way too many people in a similar situation.

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Lorita's avatar

Just a thought, some can't afford premiums.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Every single day on my tv I see ads for Colonial Penn life insurance. . . "You can't be turned down, and you can get $25,000 in insurance for only $9.95 a month". Who can't afford that?

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Deceptive advertising on that one. Due diligence pays off.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes thought the same.

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Fred's avatar

If they change the DC to “Covid,” I think the $9k for funeral expenses might still be available. /s

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AngelaK's avatar

With all due respect, you dont know the financial situation of others. I am sure it is an extremely humbling experience and as such, it is blessed. 'But for the grace of God go I'.✌️🙏

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Jeff C's avatar

You are right I don't know it. On the other hard, "you don't know their situation!!" is now used to excuse every form of societal degradation.

He hasn't even been buried yet and his daughter is begging for money. Really? Do you think her father would have wanted that? The first impulse is to be for money, it couldn't have waited a few weeks? They need the money that desperately now?

Angela, with all respect to you, this brand of "niceness" where no one is allowed to comment on the impropriety of other's actions is a big factor in society's destruction. The bible tells us to be kind, its doesn't say a word about being "nice". We are allowed to comment when people immediately belittle the memory of the dead by begging for money.

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STH's avatar

I could be destitute and I still would never set up a GoFundMe for a loved ones death. That’s what insurance is for! It’s bizarre to me.

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AngelaK's avatar

Funerals are expensive. One never knows what the financial situation is for another. I think that this type of funding is a charitable avenue for those who sometimes have no other recourse for financial help.

That is my opinion. You are entitled to yours.

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Jeff C's avatar

Funerals can be expensive, just like weddings can be. They don't have to be. Churches don't charge for funerals and mortuaries do offer payment plans. This idea that she is required to beg for money immediately to hold a funeral is nonsense. Plus, she didn't even say that.

I have no idea what there situation is, I hope it's not bleak. My observation was a general one that people have lost their shame and immediately start begging for money when someone dies. This didn't happen a few decades ago and it's a bad sign for society.

You then responded to me with Hallmark-card level theology of "there but the grace of God go I" and implied it was somehow immoral of me to make a 100% true observation (i.e. it's tacky to beg for money when people die) and justified that by inventing a scenario where they can't pay for a funeral. Nonsense.

This won't happen to me because I have $1.5M in life insurance with my wife as beneficiary, along with long-term disability insurance. I have a sizable retirement account and significant home equity, with my wife as joint owner on both. We also have a six months emergency fund in the bank. We aren't rich, but have these because they are a priority for us. We don't take Mediterranean cruises or buy new BMW's. God's grace gave me common sense and a desire to provide for my family as my highest priority.

If I pass and my kids start begging for money I will have failed in my obligations as a husband and father. Both in providing for my wife and in teaching my kids self-respect and self-sufficiency. This idea that we aren't allowed to comment on other's impropriety and poor stewardship is absurd, and it's not biblical. Worst of all, it let's people off the hook with regards to irresponsible behavior.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree that there needs to be a balance—showing compassion but not enabling.

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Jeff C's avatar

Totally agree. Compassion would be friends and family (and perhaps even fans) *privately* approaching the family and asking if there is anything they can do to help. It could be monetary, funeral planning, or helping with family finances and what not. Frankly, this was the basis of Christian fraternity I remember growing up. My church (plug for Calvary Chapel which is great) still does this and it's a core part of our community.

Key distinction was that it was freely offered by others and no one felt entitled to it. My mom used to cook meals for other church families when a parent was in the hospital or something like that. I will never forget the surprised and sincere gratitude of those families.

What is troubling in this activity is that family members now beg strangers for money. This is a relatively new phenomena. At a minimum it's extremely unbecoming as it publicly implies the deceased did not properly provide for the family. More broadly, there's an air of entitlement that others pay someone else's debts.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

But ARE funerals expensive? I thought churches did it for free.

And, as I asked elsewhere, doesn't the county have a duty to dispose of dead bodies?

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MayBella82's avatar

With all due respect, it is not blessed. Her father is not even cold yet but she has her hand out. Take off your “holier than thou” crown before you tip over.

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AngelaK's avatar

Wow. That is unkind!

I guess you or someone you love or know have ever experienced the reality of being broke for a while.

People turn to churches all the time in times of need, including such as having no money to bury their dead, and in some traditions cremation (cheaper) is not allowed. I give money to that church fund whenever I can.

My friend's best friend is currently dying of cancer. Her children died before her as did her husband years ago. She has no insurance. My friend is trying to figure out a way to help raise money to bury her. It happens all the time.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Cremation services cost about 2k here in Cali, so probably cheaper elsewhere. If one is truly destitute, doesn't the county have to dispose of the body? I'm not being disrespectful here, Angela, just truly curious. I mean, they don't just tip the body into the street.

And from I understand, churches don't charge for funeral services. . . Do they?

Otherwise, one could have a memorial service in a park.

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AngelaK's avatar

My mother passed in January this year. Our tradition does not allow for cremation. We believe in the sanctity of the body. The burial plots are anywhere from 1500 to 3000. The funeral home, with no embalming, nor a fancy casket or any other frills, taking her body, preparing it, bringing it to the church and then to the cemetery cost almost 7k.

The church service, a ofcourse, costs nothing.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

But doesn't the county provide free burial services for the indigent?

I'm not in any way knocking your preference, just genuine curiosity.

In the olden days I believe it was called "potters fields". I mean, long before crowd sourcing, what did they do?

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Crixcyon's avatar

I am non UFO conforming. Do UFO's (aliens) have a thousand genders like mankind? Just wondering.

If you trusted Offit and Fauci and any other medical experts, otherwise known as bouncing clowns, or that dot thing we saw on TV when singing along with Mitch Miller, shame on you. I hope you learned your lesson, but if you are dead, maybe you learned something useful for the next life.

The debates? Good grief, gimme My Favorite Martian reruns or any rerun for that matter. More politicians or a change of stripe has never shown to be the answer for the woes of the country. It's because of useless politicians we have more woes than ever.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

😁😁 OMG My Fav Martian!!! Loved that show!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Me too!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Mitch Miller!! O what a blast to the past. So funny thank you

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devoalan's avatar

Mitch miller! Lol originally from his hometown. Great memories.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Mitch Miller was such fun!

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JacquelineP's avatar

Canadian here, so not voting, but if RFK Jr can make it on the ballot I think he offers an option for integrity and change - no one on the horizon like that in this country....

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Credenda's avatar

John McCain Street. Words fail me.

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SB's avatar

I know, I thought at first it was Jeff being funny.

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Tom's avatar

You can't make this stuff up.

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RunningLogic's avatar

“If that’s its real name” 🤨😆

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Is the “bomb, raze, and kill” strategy (Ukraine) just an alternative to the “directed energy and burn” strategy (Maui and CA) to create a “clean pallet” where the “haves” can create their New World Order societies? Maybe the Senators were there to lay the cornerstones for their future respective neighborhoods.

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Tamsin's avatar

Dzhona Makkeina Street. Apparently, true.

We can't go on like this.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yeah. That's some kinda wonderful, huh?

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Great round-up Jeff, thanks again. My favourite comment from the twitter feed regarding the U.S. tax payers' financial "investment" in Ukraine was, "I can now claim Ukraine as a dependant on my tax return"... Priceless and should be allowed. Cheers y'all.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I liked that one too!! 😆 Can we get a social security number for it? I mean, the illegals coming in can somehow get one so why not? 😛😑

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Exactly!

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eyes open's avatar

Country singer Travis Tritt has provided us with an incredible statement of inspiration and encouragement. I put this on another stack the other day but as it is balm to the weary soul I would like to repost it here. It is wonderful. From his twitter feed of a couple of days ago:

"I was recently asked to do an interview with an @ajc entertainment journalist to talk about being a lifelong @Braves fan. I declined the interview because of how badly I was treated by Major League Baseball and the mainstream media when I sang our National Anthem in October of 2021 for a Braves playoff game. Because I was unvaccinated, I was treated like a pariah and a criminal by MLB and the MSM. I haven’t watched a MLB game since and I doubt that I ever will again without a formal apology from MLB. With so many reports of people being injured by the vaccines and boosters, I stand by my decision to refuse to take any of the jabs. It’s such a shame, because there was never a bigger Major League Baseball and @Braves fan than me. Nevertheless, I stand by my decision and I refuse to be bullied by any agenda that ultimately wants to reduce the population because of a “climate change” hoax."

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All That Jazz's avatar

That's awesome! Thanks for sharing.

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Bgagnon's avatar

In this case, Travis speaks for me too and, I imagine, most of us here. Thank you Travis and you too, eyes open, for posting it!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good for him!!!!!

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eyes open's avatar

As of right now his twitter statement has 61.7 thousand likes! Keep the faith-we are more numerous than the narrative builders portray!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for this reminder! We definitely need it sometimes!

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Emumundo's avatar

I used to follow him on Parler..

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T Diesel's avatar

MLB Major League Blunders

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FourWinds's avatar

Standing ovation!

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Jasmine's avatar

One of the most maddening aspects of “severe effects usually show up within the first few weeks/months” - aside from the fact that it’s only considered true because we don’t carry out long-term studies- is that for the first two weeks after cv vx, people are considered not vaccinated. So all those strokes, heart attacks, and covid cases in the first two weeks after a shot are never attributed to the latest shot. It’s actually kind of brilliant.

Gato Malo has done extensive coverage of this.

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G/W/'s avatar

Bingo.

And after you get jabbed and have an adverse event, who cares?

Who do you tell? Do you go back to the drive through tent city where you got it? The Walgreens?

Literally, who will even bother to believe you?

Oh and if they did, where would they report it?

Surely, there’s intense oversight about this novel therapy?

An army of government cdc specialists like Dustin Hoffman peering intently into microscopes to be ready to sound the instant alarm!

Oh well, no but we have vaers- yep no fear, cdc is on the job.

But oh that ole vaers is a self reporting thing/ pshhaw you know any crack pot can go on online and fill one out. Can’t trust it.

But, but with trillions spent, we couldn’t have a better monitoring system?

Sure, we COULD have.

But that would just be silly and a waste of resources, y’all, be real.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly because they don’t want to know, and they definitely don’t want *us* to know!

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Dr Linda's avatar

It took my Brother almost 3 years to throw clots. He miraculously survived.

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Heather's avatar

My husband told me 99.9+% of all side effects happen within the first either hour or 24-hours (I think he said hour)....I was ill-prepared to counter that argument back when the vaxx first released, but instinctively knew that was wrong and I wasn’t taking it. Some “science” guy had to have been stating this because he wouldn’t have made it up himself (he would blindly believe it from someone with a scientist label though)

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Jasmine's avatar

We don’t have to do long-term studies because we know that most side effects show up right away. How do we know that most side effects show up right away? Because there are no studies showing long-term harm.

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