Today's post includes my first draft of a guide for how to navigate Covid hospitalization issues, including legal options for worst-case scenarios. Preparation is the best strategy.
I have a great hospital story about an elderly relative. In her 90s, in poor health for years feverish from Covid. The admitting doctor told the family "if you bring her in, she's not going to come out alive."
My 80 year old Father-in-Law was admitted to an unnamed hospital in the Northeast Region. When the doctor arrived some time later he asked if he had been vaccinated. “Nope.” My Father-in-Law then asked if he was afraid of him. No answer. The doctor never once got within 6 ft of him.
I have always been under the impression that people who enter the medical field do so out of a sense of responsibility; an inner calling to serve the greater good, resolute and fearless. This current bogus emergency situation has ferreted out those who entered the field desiring prestige and a healthy paycheck rather than healthy patients. Perhaps another manifestation of separating the wheat from the chaff?
This is absolutely outrageous let me say that again EFFIN OUTRAGEOUS that any American citizen would have to go through what is described above in order to avoid being abused / killed by a hospital. Thousands of dollars in major medical premiums paid so that these sadists can perform experiments on us!
If push comes to shove, I recommend not worrying about AMA paperwork. Being physically out of the hospital would be the most important thing to focus on, and paperwork can be done later. When I was in medical school and working in a large urban public/private combination hospital in one of the largest cities in Florida, it was not uncommon for patients (usually drunk, drugged, or demented) to discharge themselves, particularly from the ER, by getting up and walking out. We never tried to stop them. Some walked out with IV tubes trailing behind them, and their derrières showing as their hospital gowns waved in the breeze as they departed. I was taught in my residency training that touching, just touching, a patient against their will constituted battery (as in 'assault and').
Sage advice, much gratitude to you Jeff Childers. I am not a lawyer or doctor, but my sister is a doc in Florida. I’m a guy stuck for now in Commie Cali. I’ve studied this covid stuff nonstop since the start, smelling globalist rats right out of the gate. I’ve canceled an orthopedic surgery since I want to stay as far away from any hospital as possible. I’d rather have a permanent hitch in my giddy-up than risk being thrown into a covid (mental) ward over a faulty test. Hate to write this, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s OPEN SEASON ON SENIORS these days. Golden years seem to be in short supply. Today’s post is s keeper!
Jeff, you can't imagine how necessary this guide is and timely. We've had to watch from a distance as a dear friend has been hospitalized having no idea how she's being treated. Even though she did IVM and has a good immune system, something else happened with her lungs and early treatment. One night, she refused a vent 3x. She's very informed about covid treatment. The family got called in Saturday and I felt like they were killing her with their protocol bc she was doing better the day prior. She made it through the night - lots of people praying - and the doctors were stunned I think.
We are prepared with POA and advance directive forms about covid treatment that we had notarized. We use the FLCCC prophylactic protocol and have IVM on hand. But everything in your draft tells me how important it is to have your ducks in a row way beforehand. Thank you!
MIC(medical industrial complex) will not cure you. 95% of all covid patients are deficient in vitamin D3. Daily prevention is the only way out of this. See Dr. Zeleko protocols are proven. https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/
I read through your rough draft on covid. Obviously you do not know how bad hospitals are here in Bellingham, WA. In the past month we have had three male friends admitted, all above the age of 60. One passed away after 22 days of admittance. (and being forced to be on the ventilator, he was improving on steroids, then they stopped that, he began the decline and it was a ventilator and flat on his back! His wife got to see him twice, and the second time was when he had flat lined and was being given CPR as he died!) The other two, thank God, survived the hospital trying to kill them, and telling their loved ones they were going to die. All three men were unvaccinated, and there is an obvious disdain by the staff for folks like this. Secondly, the loved ones are not allowed in. Seriously, how can they advocate or monitor the care or lack of it when loved ones are kept out of the loop. They even have had police stationed at the main exit door of the hospital to prevent patients from leaving without discharge papers. This is like kidnapping! Prison! Seriously, we are all terrified that if an accident were to happen to any of us, or a health emergency of any kind, that if we had to go to the hospital, we would never make it out alive. Dr Ardis has medical directive papers on his website that can be downloaded and notarized. We are planning to do this, give appropriate documentation of this to our lawyer, and carry it with us at all times. Yes, we are deathly afraid of our hospital, and have come to distrust all most all medical staff, especially the doctors. And to think that before this covid thing, we had the highest praise for St. Joseph Hospital, here in Bellingham. Now there is terror!.
Jeff, I have been helping people for over 6 months with information on covid (all aspects) as well as physically going to homes to help those in need. FYI, No fancy initials after my name but my group, "Nightingales" theme is "Bridging the gap between healthcare and home". Here's my thoughts on your first draft.
1. In MN, many hospitals do not even allow their patients to have visitors. This is long after they are covid contagious. In one of my "peeps", she couldn't see her husband for 6 weeks until the hospital said he was dying. They were allowed to see him and his stats improved soon after due to that physical touch and presence of family. He is still alive two weeks later. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES.
2. Based on #1, we need a list of hospitals nation-wide that are allowing visitors and allow alternative treatments. I understand that will be a short list, but we need it. I am trying to find a hospital right now to transfer a "peep" to (from MN) and cannot find one anywhere close. Please help.
3. Even with a patient advocate form in place, if the hospitalized patient is coherent, the staff will default to the decision from that patient, rather than their advocate and will refuse to allow the advocate to be part of that decision-making process. Who do you know that is very sick and in the hospital that can make well-thought-out decisions for their healthcare and not be coerced into compliance when being told, "This is all we can do to save your life"? How do we fight that? My current peep has on their hospital paperwork that "No decision can be made without consent of the patient advocate". We will see how that goes, but I'm not crossing my fingers.
4. We need lawyers in each state that are doing what you are doing. These hospitals need to be sued...
Any advice would be helpful, as I am contacted every day with these situations, and the frustration continues to climb.
What would be even more helpful, is if there was a way to compile a list of different hospitals and their Covid protocols so if you have to go into a hospital for ANY reason, at least you can make an informed decision about which hospitals you choose for necessary surgeries.
In addition, it would be GREAT to have a list of Doctors in different States, who are not bowing to the Narrative and are willing to treat with Ivermectin, Fluvoxamine and or Monoclonal antibody treatments.
Finally, Thank you, Thank you Mr. Childers, and God Bless you!
If only more lawyers were like you, Jeff. Your work during these trying times is nothing short of a Godsend.
Switching gears....does anyone have any updates on the fight against the CMS mandates? Anything happening in the lower courts, or is it pretty much a lost cause? My hospital set the deadline for the first shot for 1/27, and as of now, at least 751 employees have been put on unpaid leave. Thanks again, Kavanaugh and Roberts, you sellouts.
Thank you Jeff! I personally would love to have a list of local ‘non-corporate’ hospitals and providers so that we don’t even get into this mess should a medical emergency arise. It has been difficult to find this information (probably exacerbated by the fact that I am not a big social media person). Any nudges in the right direction are greatly appreciated. We are in north east Florida (Jax/PVB area).
I had a situation very similar to what you explained today. On July 4, 2021 I went to the ER with extreme pain in my side. Long story short I tested positive. Immediately sent to Covid ward. Turns out is was my gallbladder about to rupture but I was told because of my test they couldn’t operate for 4 weeks! My husband just walked into my room, past objecting nurses & insisted that I be tested again. NEGATIVE! So I got the surgery😊. Thank God!
I have a great hospital story about an elderly relative. In her 90s, in poor health for years feverish from Covid. The admitting doctor told the family "if you bring her in, she's not going to come out alive."
They took her home.
She's fine.
My 80 year old Father-in-Law was admitted to an unnamed hospital in the Northeast Region. When the doctor arrived some time later he asked if he had been vaccinated. “Nope.” My Father-in-Law then asked if he was afraid of him. No answer. The doctor never once got within 6 ft of him.
I have always been under the impression that people who enter the medical field do so out of a sense of responsibility; an inner calling to serve the greater good, resolute and fearless. This current bogus emergency situation has ferreted out those who entered the field desiring prestige and a healthy paycheck rather than healthy patients. Perhaps another manifestation of separating the wheat from the chaff?
This is absolutely outrageous let me say that again EFFIN OUTRAGEOUS that any American citizen would have to go through what is described above in order to avoid being abused / killed by a hospital. Thousands of dollars in major medical premiums paid so that these sadists can perform experiments on us!
This is terrific. What incredible value to your subscribers!
If push comes to shove, I recommend not worrying about AMA paperwork. Being physically out of the hospital would be the most important thing to focus on, and paperwork can be done later. When I was in medical school and working in a large urban public/private combination hospital in one of the largest cities in Florida, it was not uncommon for patients (usually drunk, drugged, or demented) to discharge themselves, particularly from the ER, by getting up and walking out. We never tried to stop them. Some walked out with IV tubes trailing behind them, and their derrières showing as their hospital gowns waved in the breeze as they departed. I was taught in my residency training that touching, just touching, a patient against their will constituted battery (as in 'assault and').
Sage advice, much gratitude to you Jeff Childers. I am not a lawyer or doctor, but my sister is a doc in Florida. I’m a guy stuck for now in Commie Cali. I’ve studied this covid stuff nonstop since the start, smelling globalist rats right out of the gate. I’ve canceled an orthopedic surgery since I want to stay as far away from any hospital as possible. I’d rather have a permanent hitch in my giddy-up than risk being thrown into a covid (mental) ward over a faulty test. Hate to write this, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s OPEN SEASON ON SENIORS these days. Golden years seem to be in short supply. Today’s post is s keeper!
Jeff, you can't imagine how necessary this guide is and timely. We've had to watch from a distance as a dear friend has been hospitalized having no idea how she's being treated. Even though she did IVM and has a good immune system, something else happened with her lungs and early treatment. One night, she refused a vent 3x. She's very informed about covid treatment. The family got called in Saturday and I felt like they were killing her with their protocol bc she was doing better the day prior. She made it through the night - lots of people praying - and the doctors were stunned I think.
We are prepared with POA and advance directive forms about covid treatment that we had notarized. We use the FLCCC prophylactic protocol and have IVM on hand. But everything in your draft tells me how important it is to have your ducks in a row way beforehand. Thank you!
Jeff, you’re concerned about getting canceled off of substack? That’s concerning.
I no longer use Twitter or FB. Only GAB and Telegram. Please consider one of those platforms as well.
MIC(medical industrial complex) will not cure you. 95% of all covid patients are deficient in vitamin D3. Daily prevention is the only way out of this. See Dr. Zeleko protocols are proven. https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/
I read through your rough draft on covid. Obviously you do not know how bad hospitals are here in Bellingham, WA. In the past month we have had three male friends admitted, all above the age of 60. One passed away after 22 days of admittance. (and being forced to be on the ventilator, he was improving on steroids, then they stopped that, he began the decline and it was a ventilator and flat on his back! His wife got to see him twice, and the second time was when he had flat lined and was being given CPR as he died!) The other two, thank God, survived the hospital trying to kill them, and telling their loved ones they were going to die. All three men were unvaccinated, and there is an obvious disdain by the staff for folks like this. Secondly, the loved ones are not allowed in. Seriously, how can they advocate or monitor the care or lack of it when loved ones are kept out of the loop. They even have had police stationed at the main exit door of the hospital to prevent patients from leaving without discharge papers. This is like kidnapping! Prison! Seriously, we are all terrified that if an accident were to happen to any of us, or a health emergency of any kind, that if we had to go to the hospital, we would never make it out alive. Dr Ardis has medical directive papers on his website that can be downloaded and notarized. We are planning to do this, give appropriate documentation of this to our lawyer, and carry it with us at all times. Yes, we are deathly afraid of our hospital, and have come to distrust all most all medical staff, especially the doctors. And to think that before this covid thing, we had the highest praise for St. Joseph Hospital, here in Bellingham. Now there is terror!.
Thank you for this. Needed.
Jeff, I have been helping people for over 6 months with information on covid (all aspects) as well as physically going to homes to help those in need. FYI, No fancy initials after my name but my group, "Nightingales" theme is "Bridging the gap between healthcare and home". Here's my thoughts on your first draft.
1. In MN, many hospitals do not even allow their patients to have visitors. This is long after they are covid contagious. In one of my "peeps", she couldn't see her husband for 6 weeks until the hospital said he was dying. They were allowed to see him and his stats improved soon after due to that physical touch and presence of family. He is still alive two weeks later. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES.
2. Based on #1, we need a list of hospitals nation-wide that are allowing visitors and allow alternative treatments. I understand that will be a short list, but we need it. I am trying to find a hospital right now to transfer a "peep" to (from MN) and cannot find one anywhere close. Please help.
3. Even with a patient advocate form in place, if the hospitalized patient is coherent, the staff will default to the decision from that patient, rather than their advocate and will refuse to allow the advocate to be part of that decision-making process. Who do you know that is very sick and in the hospital that can make well-thought-out decisions for their healthcare and not be coerced into compliance when being told, "This is all we can do to save your life"? How do we fight that? My current peep has on their hospital paperwork that "No decision can be made without consent of the patient advocate". We will see how that goes, but I'm not crossing my fingers.
4. We need lawyers in each state that are doing what you are doing. These hospitals need to be sued...
Any advice would be helpful, as I am contacted every day with these situations, and the frustration continues to climb.
Wow! Todays post was both eye opening and a little frightening. But carry on we must! I have attached a link Matthiesen, Wickert & Lehrer, S.C. regarding laws on recording conversations in all 50 states. Last updated 1-13-2022. I hope this is helpful. https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/LAWS-ON-RECORDING-CONVERSATIONS-CHART.pdf
What would be even more helpful, is if there was a way to compile a list of different hospitals and their Covid protocols so if you have to go into a hospital for ANY reason, at least you can make an informed decision about which hospitals you choose for necessary surgeries.
In addition, it would be GREAT to have a list of Doctors in different States, who are not bowing to the Narrative and are willing to treat with Ivermectin, Fluvoxamine and or Monoclonal antibody treatments.
Finally, Thank you, Thank you Mr. Childers, and God Bless you!
If only more lawyers were like you, Jeff. Your work during these trying times is nothing short of a Godsend.
Switching gears....does anyone have any updates on the fight against the CMS mandates? Anything happening in the lower courts, or is it pretty much a lost cause? My hospital set the deadline for the first shot for 1/27, and as of now, at least 751 employees have been put on unpaid leave. Thanks again, Kavanaugh and Roberts, you sellouts.
Thank you Jeff! I personally would love to have a list of local ‘non-corporate’ hospitals and providers so that we don’t even get into this mess should a medical emergency arise. It has been difficult to find this information (probably exacerbated by the fact that I am not a big social media person). Any nudges in the right direction are greatly appreciated. We are in north east Florida (Jax/PVB area).
I had a situation very similar to what you explained today. On July 4, 2021 I went to the ER with extreme pain in my side. Long story short I tested positive. Immediately sent to Covid ward. Turns out is was my gallbladder about to rupture but I was told because of my test they couldn’t operate for 4 weeks! My husband just walked into my room, past objecting nurses & insisted that I be tested again. NEGATIVE! So I got the surgery😊. Thank God!