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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

I am so disappointed and frustrated with the Mayo Clinic—and all the other dens of supposedly smart minds. I visited the Mayo 3 times in 2021. Recently I received a survey in regards to my latest phone appointment. I took the opportunity to share my thoughts regarding the covid jab:

While I am disappointed that no answer for my symptoms is apparent, that is not my greatest concern. My greatest disappointment is that Mayo Clinic is rabidly pro covid vaccine and keeps sending me messages that the vaccines are “safe and effective” when multitudes of studies and observational data show that the vaccines are causing virus spread, vaccine injury, and even death. And Mayo Clinic even fired 700 employees for choosing not to be injected with the experimental drug. This is shameful and wrong.

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Over it's avatar

I did the same with the Cleveland Clinic. My mom was given absurdly, horrible care last year when she was admitted for covid pneumonia (with the exception of her doctor, who I believe was God-sent) due to staffing problems. I told them what I thought then & continue to do so with every survey I receive. My docs work under CC & are afraid to go against them, one of them really wants to. They are awesome, but I’m currently shopping for patient focused docs, not corporate focused.

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Canny Granny's avatar

Try one of the club doctors where you pay a fee. They don’t accept insurance but it will pay for testing I think. Most of them are functional doctors with open minds.

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Over it's avatar

Unfortunately, I’m a nurse & can’t afford it. Ironic.

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Over it's avatar

I have, as a last resort. While I see the convenience of telemedicine, it will never be as good as a good ole, hands on, physical assessment of a patient. Fun fact: while I was still working as a bedside nurse at the start of the pandemic, we actually had docs do their rounds on patients via telemedicine. The nurse would push the WOW (workstation on wheels) into the patients room & the doc would talk to the patient, using the nurse to assess the patient. Doctor = indispensable. Nurse = dispensable. What they failed to realize, is the docs are literally losing their right hand in droves now.

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Odd One's avatar

In the “big brain arrogant healthcare consulting” circles they think that primary care moving to CVS is a great thing because it helps the bottom line.

It’s no longer about patients, it’s about profitability.

It’s time for these doctors to unplug from corporate healthcare and return to family practices. I hope we see that soon from the refuseniks.

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Anna T's avatar

I see an MDVIP doc. At our first visit, he went through the "why you should get the shots and this is why I did" spiel. Thanked him and said I still wasn't getting it. He looked surprised, but we have moved on from that.

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Over it's avatar

Went for a GI consult in June. Dude never assessed me properly. On my way out the door, he stood in the doorway & asked if I’d been vaccinated. I said, I didn’t see how that was any of his concern. He asked again & said I should get it. Wouldn’t move from the door after I said, excuse me. I said, I’m here for a GI consult. You never even assessed me or looked at my history. Last time I checked, both are required before you offer a patient medical advice, get out of my way. Needless to say, I went with a different doc.

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Canny Granny's avatar

My doctor hinted that I should take it the last visit. Here’s the thing! Does she not know that the vaccine effectiveness is not worth the risk , or does she not care. It raises doubt in her ability to give me the best medical care.

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Copernicus's avatar

They likely have NO idea. They don’t have time to read the various alternative news sources, as they are working 50-60 hrs a week (or more, depending), trying to keep up w paperwork which has become absurd due to EMR and all the easy access of email etc, doing their continuing medical education and ongoing board certification requirements, etc.

I’m not saying this is right. I am simply reporting reality.

Most physicians rightly recognize they do not have the time nor the expertise to continually review all the medical literature for all the different conditions, procedures, diagnoses, recommendations, and so on. Therefore they rely on their professional organizations to review and cull the never-ending flood of information into useful bits. Unfortunately the professional organizations have been making poor advice for a number of years. (American Heart’s dietary advice and cholesterol advice; American Academy of Pediatrics advice about preventing HPV w a vaccine [how about telling kids to wait on sex til they get married 🤔] and being okay with giving kids birth control pills without discussing w parents, and of course now they think preschoolers should wear masks and school age kids should get the jab because myocarditis post-jab is less common than from The Vid (🤥🤥🤥) and so on).

I have multiple personal friends who are respected physicians who have eagerly given THEIR KIDS the experimental injections. It blows my mind.

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Canny Granny's avatar

But they can see it’s not working. What’s that saying? Something like the definition of idiocy is doing the same thing over when it doesn’t work. I know that’s not exact, but you get my meaning.

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Anna T's avatar

Funny you say that about keeping with medical papers! Saw my ophthalmologist last week and asked if statins have any effect on eyesight, and he said he'd just read something about that recently. He was able to pull it up and read through quickly - no documented negatives on the eyes from statins. Will have to try that with my other docs to see what happens. :)

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Mine is with MDVIP and he is not like that at all. Apparently (and fortunately) they don’t all share the same philosophy.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Yes, my doc went into practice by himself a few years before covid, before I knew him. I know he is very thankful for the Lord’s leading him then!

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tjsplace's avatar

Direct Primary Care is your answer. Find a Covid-recovered Doc who believes in the power of natural immunity. It's a search, alright, but it is doable.

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Over it's avatar

Working on that search...

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Denny's avatar

FLCCC https://covid19criticalcare.com/

and America’s Frontline doctors both have directories of doctors and pharmacists

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/

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JustANobody's avatar

Where do you start your search? I have no idea in CT. Thank you.

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Over it's avatar

Personally, over the past 2 years, I’ve developed a group of incognito friends & colleagues that are seeking healthcare providers that lean towards conservative, natural treatments, but actually know what they are doing. It’s all through the grapevine & it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. In 2 years, I have found 2 potentials (this week). I plan to investigate their legitimacy.

ETA: I’m not opposed to traditional medicine at all, but I believe pushing pills as the first option needs to stop.

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Denny's avatar

I’m thinking pushing most vaccines needs

To stop.

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tjsplace's avatar

I found my doctor via my local news. He is a medical advisor to one of the local school boards. He gained a following after making the news for being in attendance at a gathering that opposes masks and mandates; he also advises the Delaware Medical Freedom Alliance (DMFA). Perhaps you can try that route. Find a local activist group opposing medical mandates and see what local medical professionals back them up. One of them could become your new healthcare provider that you long to find.

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NJ's avatar

Excellent suggestion.

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KenM's avatar

Dr Murray in WH is part of the great Barrington declaration. Against the lockdowns/mandates .. about all i know .. its a start.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Also stupid, since Mayo clearly fired their *best*.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Yes. I am glad that 700 stood up to the tyranny. But that is only about 1% of their workforce. That is very sad!

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Diana's avatar

Maybe those 700 who left can start a place where people Can better and are not forced vaccines. Because we don’t have any of those places anymore.

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Kay Conway's avatar

Mayo has carefully downplayed the number of employees it lost due to vaccine mandate in Minnesota. Thousands left or retired before the deadline for vax. Now, we have a new mask mandate beginning tomorrow in Rochester, home of mighty Mayo. Our only hope is changing our state leadership. Dr. Scott Jensen for governor.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

I’m sad because my interventional radiologist is good at what he does, but since he’s still there it means he drank the covid koolaid. Too bad.

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Anne Gibbons's avatar

Follow the money! See my comment above and watch the video that documents how thoroughly bought and paid for hospitals and schools are.

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NJ's avatar

Know that Mayo Clinic is a World Economic Forum partner. Worth reviewing the partner list. "Great Reset" partner.

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Birdingmom's avatar

Thank you. Just looked it up and confirmed.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Well, I just crawled out from under my rock and learned there is such a thing as the World Economic Forum. I think I shall not be returning to the Mayo for any treatments.

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NJ's avatar

Ugh, yes -the more we know. Be sure to hunt down the "You will own nothing and be happy" video, which they were proudly promoting until people started to actually pay attention. These WEF partners are not on our side.

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Birdingmom's avatar

Nice job!

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Guttermouth's avatar

Mayo Clinic does not exist for its patients. It exists for insurers and the federal government. You are an annoying data point on a spreadsheet with irritating opinions and emotions that they would just as soon see die if they still got paid.

Teacher's unions don't give a flying fuck about your children. They exist for the duespaying teachers and the Democrat party who receives their campaign donations in exchange for lobbying powers. Your children are annoying data points they would happily see lobotomized and propped up against a wall drooling for 8 hours a day before being bussed home if they still drew a paycheck.

These people don't care about you. In fact, your humanity annoys the shit out of them.

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VeryVer's avatar

well put.

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Gram's avatar

Hey Guttermouth, can you be more blunt? Kidding. Many unknowingly traded their souls for letters after their name. Most of them are so programmed (lobotomized) themselves with propaganda and student debt and depression and stress, they can't be more conscious. Pray for the 'daemons' to GET OUT!!!

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Guttermouth's avatar

I don't feel sorry for people who actively want to hurt me or my family.

I'm happy to feel sorry for people who apologize for their wrongdoing and sincerely seek redemption.

I do not invite wolves for tea.

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Gram's avatar

Most doctors don't intend to hurt people. They are doing what they are programmed to do from 7 years of SRA-type education/programming. (Isolation, stress, lack of sleep, indoctrination...) They are in a trance, under a spell, they have the Mind Virus. People seek redemption when they recognize wrong-doing. People can't evolve ahead of themselves.

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Guttermouth's avatar

Intent doesn't change the impact of people's behavior on me. The source of a motivation doesn't impact the consequences- these people are motivated to imprison, poison, and dehumanize me. I don't care whether it's because they've given themselves over to Satan or they're sleepy.

The nicest person in the world might want to euthanize me because their madness has led them to the conclusion that I'm better off. I will neither allow nor tolerate it.

I will keep them away from me.

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Gram's avatar

Absolutely. Insanity plea doesn't make someone safe!

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Guttermouth's avatar

That said, I understand where you're coming from. I think the profession has become systemically broken, possibly beyond repair, from a combination of a steady buildup of litigiousness, the monopolistic practices of licensing and medical associations, and the incestuous relationships of those associations with insurers.

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NJ's avatar

Yes, we have a family member who is a doctor in NYC She also suffers from being a hard core liberal. In the earliest days of the pandemic, she confidently parrroted the official line that there was nothing to worry about. She has dutifully passed on every CDC recommendation since, never admitting any false steps or expressing any doubts. Used to think she was a good doc, but now I know she is NOT.

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NJ's avatar

Yesss: the debt is part of the big problem.

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Canny Granny's avatar

Really, why does Mayo Clinic care if a dying man wants to try an alternative. It makes you think that don’t give a flip about their patients. If the doctors there and every other hospital haven’t figured out that their protocols don’t work, they are dumb as rocks or just plain evil. Stay out of hospitals.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

It’s about banning IVM and HCQ because they work, and because they are an older, out of patent, cheap treatment. In other words, they are being controlled by the powers that be to push the new pills from big Pharma. Pretty damn disgusting, isn’t it?

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Guttermouth's avatar

Seen the Project Veritas leak about Ivermectin today?

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Gram's avatar

Link?

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Guttermouth's avatar

Yep.

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Gram's avatar

Watch Dopesick - a series on HuLu. It is an excellent telescopic view into modern medicine thru the lens of Purdue Pharma & the Sackler family's deceptive marketing of OxyContin.

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MarianneK's avatar

That's always gotten to me: Poor doctors were at the mercy of Pharma. They did not wonder if an opioid was addicting. I guess they never learned that in Med School.

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Gram's avatar

The investigation and take down is entertaining and educational.

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VeryVer's avatar

They only care about lawsuits. My mom and grandma were both nurses-- they both said stay out of the hospitals.

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Over it's avatar

You have NO idea the tedious work nurses are given to avoid lawsuits. Ironically, all that work keeps us away from the actual patients. It’s too much. Nurses are nurses because they want to care for people, not sit behind a computer. Add all that to staffing shortages & nurses are leaving the bedside in droves...and fact is, that started before covid. It’s why I left the bedside after 20 years.

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Susan W's avatar

I too left after 20 yrs - and that was 30 yrs ago! Honestly, nursing was different then. You actually took care of people and could advocate for them. Yes - the shortage of nurses started long before covid.

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Guttermouth's avatar

I'll be honest, my operating assumption based on majority experience when I must interact with nurses is that they will be petty tyrants who will try to dominate me and ignore my wishes or situational knowledge if it inconveniences their protocols.

I apologize to the good and compassionate nurses that I know exist. In all my encounters with hospitals for either myself, my husband, or my father, nurses have mostly been bullies or incompetent robots that are annoyed that my presence requires them to do their jobs.

I feel bad for the people that go into this profession out of a desire to heal rather than simply have power over weak people.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

This retired med lab tech agrees!

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

They care about $$ & lawsuits. They want your $$. They (and prolly most hospitals) expend loads of resources on lawsuit protection, not by doing a better job, but by ensuring most either don't sue or eventually give up.)

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Bandit's avatar

They're not dumb. They're paid off evil minions of hell.

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Canny Granny's avatar

Yep and go home at night with a clear conscience, I bet! The love of money you know and a lack of integrity.

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Bandit's avatar

I have no doubt they have clear consciences, after all, they're DOC-TORS! Only one step down from God! (In their opinions.)

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NJ's avatar

Note: Mayo is a partner of the World Economic Forum, the Great Reset. Check out WEF website.

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Bandit's avatar

That's why they can't let one poor soul live. SMH. That's very sad.

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tjsplace's avatar

That's an insult to rocks, lol.

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M. Dowrick's avatar

Take home message, stay the hell away from Mayo💕

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Canny Granny's avatar

All hospitals!

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Dorothy Barnes's avatar

I’m suspecting that Mayo is getting paid well to keep this man in the hospital and unwell. I never used to think this way, but the last two years of deception and misinformation has forever changed me. So sad for his family! 🙏🏽

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Mary S's avatar

Here's is my take on what's happening...if they give him the ivermectin and it works, they may have to admit they've been wrong about their protocol treatments. That would open floodgates. People may question their integrity! Mayo has been on a pedestal for so long, their reputation could become tarnished. They can't have that happen!

He's been on the vent a long time, I pray for him and his family

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KenM's avatar

I thought vent use was ended ended on because it was ineffective and killed people?

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NJ's avatar

Also, I believe it has a lot to do w the official NIH protocols. I've heard hospitals won't be reimbursed in they use a different, non-approved treatment protocol.

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Willcall's avatar

Ivermectem is also in paste form - bring some of the paste into the hospital and rub it on a thin skin area, like a compound cream. It will be absorbed into the body.

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Martha's avatar

⬆️⬆️⬆️ This is a really good idea!

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Jaye's avatar

IVM also exists in liquid form

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Diana's avatar

This sounds like a good movie theme for a 007 film. I think we put our heads together we can get in there. Gloves mask gown and hat stolen credentials from bumping into a doctor on the way out. It’s doable! :). This poor man if dying why not allow his right to try? Stay out of the hospital they are becoming the roach motel. Once you check in never check out.

I wonder if gates is making general rules for patient treatment as well as computers pandemics and population control.

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Eli's avatar

It's also in injectable form -- wish someone could sneak a needle in there to Dan.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Except they usually won’t let covid patients have visitors until the very end.

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Willcall's avatar

Another option is a religious option. Anointing is a common religious rite. Use the ivermectem as an anointing "oil" and have a "chaplain" or other religious leader (family member) anoint the patient. Again - exploit the policies in place.

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Willcall's avatar

Some states have exceptions for "support" people. Courts are one way to find solutions - the other way is to know the state and hospital policies and use them.

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Arlene Katerberg's avatar

This sounds like the end for Dan!!

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Canny Granny's avatar

I agree, but can bring myself to like the comment!

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Willcall's avatar

I am not suggesting lies - I am stating that all Christians are ministers and in that calling is prayer, anointing, and the laying on of hands. If you feel that you need a "credential" check out:

https://www.summitbiblecollege.com/market-place-ministers

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Martha's avatar

I didn't realize they were still doing that ~ 😿

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KenM's avatar

Yea why cant a relative smuggle it in? 😆

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Jennifer's avatar

I don't understand why a patient with cancer can join a trial or try drugs when there's no other option but this person is not allowed to try a FDA approved drug even though its not for Covid. Can we fundraise to medvac the patient to a place where he can at least have a chance?

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Jeff C's avatar

Unfortunately the "right to try" law only applies to non-FDA approved treatments. Since ivermectin is FDA-approved (albeit not for Covid) it's not covered under the legislation. It's an unfortunate flaw in the law that few people could have envisioned would be a problem prior to this medical tyranny. Jeff was quoted on this is a recent news article.

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Canny Granny's avatar

Could he go on hospice and come home, then go off hospice for treatment? He may be too sick to leave.

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Jennifer's avatar

Sounds like some change might be in order. Anyone, whether vaccinated or not, could find themselves in this terrible predicament. It makes no sense at all.

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KRW's avatar

This substack helps keep me sane. The subscription price is a little steep for me, but I appreciate that you included this link so I could make a donation. Thanks for all you do!

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-learn-how-to-get-involved-

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LMWC's avatar

While I would love to believe that these plandemic players are finally done, I don’t believe it for a minute. This needs to keep going in some terror form until after the 2022 elections. And keep an eye on China. Something really bad may come out of there soon. Here in Michigan, parents are fighting with school boards over massive masking when all assured last summer, it would be optional. Well, surprise, surprise come to find out our lovely governor managed to hoodwink our GOP led legislature with agreeing to call off health department mandates if they would give her CoVid care monies for education. And guess what, we all find out school districts are getting money by how strictly they follow CDC guidelines. The more you do, such as masking, the more your school gets. This is all published information but of course, loose lips sink ships, so school districts don’t announce this. Even mask optional schools here get ESSR monies as long as they follow CDC brainless protocols such as contact tracing, quarantining healthy students, masking if contact traced to go to school, and on and on. I do not see it being over here any time soon.

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Diana's avatar

Once you give people power very seldom to they give it back. 15 days to slow the spread has become of lifetime as hearing to stupidity and being attacked by those under under a mass hypnosis syndrome.

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COVIDISM…OR Were are the Monty Python’s when you need them

https://theagingviking.substack.com/p/covidism-2c8l

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Internet Guy's avatar

The difference in the GE and Honeywell approaches should be significant over a multi-year time window. Two of the biggest long-term threats to a large organization are groupthink and people parroting the company line for career advancement. Long-term success requires that a large organization have critical thinkers who will challenge the company line. Honeywell is pushing out the very people who will enable them to avoid groupthink. GE is smart to retain people who are willing to challenge authority.

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Matt VW's avatar

Nice spot! The structural dangers of this communistic approach that people are swallowing whole hog is myopic at best. Everyone, both Democrat and Republican should be fighting this like their lives depended on it. Because, if history is any guide, our lives and our kids' lives do hang in the balance. As Jordan Peterson often says, "that's NOT Good".

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LMWC's avatar

Isn’t GE owned by China?

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JKRogers5's avatar

143 studies. 92 peer reviewed. Mayo Clinic cherry picks it’s research. https://c19ivermectin.com/

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Neil Kellen's avatar

That Gates Foundation is helping impoverished Africans the way the Chinese are helping the Uyghurs.

I thought there were a number of studies that show the efficacy of Ivermectin. So why does the Mayo Clinic state there are none?

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Bandit's avatar

No money in it. It might upset their overlords (federal funds).

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

See today’s Epoch News Alert story, WHO recommends two new drugs...

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Jeff C's avatar

Harris said this in reply: “It’s time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day.”

She stole that brilliant insight from Cosmo Kramer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwkOIHW-pw8

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Gaye's avatar

The similarities are stunning! Hilarious and sad.

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Michele Barrows's avatar

She sure did!! Thanks for sharing!

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Got this yesterday from the Florida Department of Health: (links not included)

Yesterday, the United States Supreme Court approved the Federal Government’s application to stay preliminary injunctions that had been entered against the CMS vaccine mandate. The Agency is reviewing the Supreme Court’s decision.

As communicated earlier this month, the Agency continues to follow Florida law and will not survey for compliance with the CMS vaccine mandate rule. Florida law requires all employers, including health care employers, provide broad exemptions to a COVID-19 vaccine mandate:

Medical Exemption from COVID-19 Vaccination

Religious Exemption from COVID-19 Vaccination

Exemption from COVID-19 Vaccination Based on COVID-19 Immunity

Exemption from COVID-19 Vaccination Based on Periodic Testing

Exemption from COVID-19 Vaccination Based on Employer-Provided Personal Protective Equipment

Employers and employees seeking additional information related to COVID-19 vaccine requirement exemptions and associated exemption forms should visit the Florida Department of Health’s website HERE.

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I stopped going to the Mayo when my Dr. told me, on the QT, that the supplement I found myself was far more effective than any of the drugs he was allowed to prescribe, and they were not allowed to prescribe supplements because they were not FDA approved, but more because they didn’t get a kickback.

COVIDISM…OR Were are the Monty Python’s when you need them

https://theagingviking.substack.com/p/covidism-2c8

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Roxann's avatar

Which supplement was that? The FLCCC has now included Nigella sativa (black seed, black cumin seed) on its protocol for when ivermectin is not available. I'd heard of this supplement and culinary spice early on and have been using it since. I'd heard about a Pakistani study that made it appear that it might be even better than HCQ, which was the alternative frontrunner at the time. The only problem with the study was that they were using large amounts of honey with the black seed, and so it was confounded. But studies have come out since, showing black seed as effective.

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The Aging Viking's avatar

This is not for COVID. I discovered it looking for a way to stopping serious joint pain without opioids 20 years ago. It was virtually like a miracle how effective it was. When I told my Mayo Dr. I was taking it and how effective it was he simply smiled and said it is a good product. It is not a foreign substance to our bodies….just more. I have taken it daily for 20 years…..so much for FDA studies that will never be done because it is cheap and not patented much like ivermectin, the NADC (North American Drug Cartel) can not make money off of it. Many more studies have been done over twenty years because they have found it virtually supports and helps rebuilding all cells throughout the body. We know that as the body ages it produces less.

What Is SAMe?

S-Adenosyl-L-methionine (also called S-adenosyl methionine, S-adenosylmethionine, SAMe, or SAM-e in the United States or ademetionine in Europe, and also often abbreviated as SAM and AdoMet) is a chemical that is found naturally in the body. SAMe is sold in the United States as a dietary supplement.

SAMe was discovered in the early 1950s. It’s made in the body from methionine, an amino acid found in foods. It has been found to regulate key functions in living cells.

Low levels of SAMe in the body have been reported in liver diseases and depression. This prompted researchers to investigate whether SAMe might be helpful in treating these conditions. The idea that SAMe might be helpful for osteoarthritis came from studies of SAMe for depression. Some of the participants in the depression studies who also had osteoarthritis said their joint symptoms improved when they took SAMe.

More than you ever need to know….it works.

https://www.livingwithmthfr.org/genetic-education/amino-acids/s-adenosyl-methionine-same

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Katcando's avatar

Thanks for this info!!

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Odd One's avatar

Have you ever tried Chlorine Dioxide or DMSO? I’ve been researching that for severe back pain.

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The Aging Viking's avatar

Did you know ants never get sick?

It's because they have little Anty Bodies...

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The Aging Viking's avatar

No…..but I have found that hanging upside down on an inversion table for 5 minutes eliminates back pain without needing painkillers.

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Over it's avatar

I just looked into this myself, as it was on FLCCC & I hadn’t heard of it. I’m considering it for it’s anti inflammatory effects. However, I’d caution others to read the contraindications of this before taking it on their own, as well as to watch the dosing. More is not always better.

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Roxann's avatar

Agreed on the "more is not always better" thing. A doctor had me back off the dose to three times a week due to a drop in platelet counts. I'm taking the lowest dose oil capsules I could find, three times a week.

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Howling for Harmony's avatar

I don't see on the FLCCC is it should be in powder form or oil. Do you know if it matters?

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Roxann's avatar

It's on the MASK+ page as Nigella sativa. I don't think form matters. The Pakistani study was using ground seeds, from what I can tell. Other studies have used oil.

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cat's avatar

Anyone know where the 5-day quarantine rule came from? Based on any studies? Or just pulled out of the air like other Covid theater responses?

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Thin air. Same as the 2 week quarantines. Same as the virus that blows right through the facecloths they makes us wear. 🤷

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JustANobody's avatar

She said it was what she thought public would tolerate!

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