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David A's avatar

Your wrong, and tens of thousands far better educated than you, all deeply sincere, disagree.

JoNova said this…

I know some people want to believe viruses are not real. It would be comforting. I applaud everyone who questions assumptions, but not those who don’t want to learn any genetics or virology. There are billion observations that can’t be explained with the hypothesis that viruses don’t exist. I just keep pointing at the data. Isn’t that what science is?

Viruses have been isolated genetically, antigenically, with electron microscopes, and in functional plaque assays millions of times. The requirement that someone must also isolate them molecularly is an anachronistic, semantic, expensive and irrelevant point.

We don’t have to isolate a box of pure computer virus to know that computer viruses exist.

We can only make copies of viruses by putting them in cells which use all the same chemical elements and much of the same coding and proteins. Separating out the viruses from 100,000 similar chemicals to get purity is possible but expensive and scientifically pointless.

We isolate them with plaque assays, antibody tests, electron micrographs, PCR analysis, contact tracing, symptoms, blood tests for D-Dimer, Cytokines, blood oxy levels, etc etc etc. We do binding tests on various subparts of the virus with ACE2 TMPRSS2 and nuclear transport proteins, etc etc etc. See Nextstrain to get some idea of how much data they can’t explain. (Mouseover and then double click the dots on Nextstrain to see more data).

There’s a billion observations that already fit the hypothesis that viruses are real. The hypothesis that all viruses are fake explains none of them…

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Potatodots's avatar

I said in effect viruses are real.

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David A's avatar

yes, I think Harold did not respond at all to what I wrote, or to you.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Viruses have never been isolated according to rigors of Koch's Postulates. Virologist Stefan Lanka's controlled experiment demonstrated this. - https://tinyurl.com/2dseuyff

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Maui Carrie's avatar

Would you kiss or be intimate with someone with an obvious case of herpes? Because I get cold sores and they are not fun. Antivirals help many people. Why would that be?

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Carey's avatar

He, and all the other terrainTARDS have herpes-infected BRAINS.

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