I see you're commenting on my post from was back in Aug, 2022. I retired from 30 year hospital career in cardiovascular technology back in 1996. As a specialist, I had no reason to question the virus theory until I was motivated to research the issue beginning with the Covid "scare-demic" in 2020. Even with plenty of time in retirement, …
I see you're commenting on my post from was back in Aug, 2022. I retired from 30 year hospital career in cardiovascular technology back in 1996. As a specialist, I had no reason to question the virus theory until I was motivated to research the issue beginning with the Covid "scare-demic" in 2020. Even with plenty of time in retirement, it was only after 6 months that I began to understand why viruses have never been proven to exist because the most important test (Koch's Postulates) has never been achieved and also that not one virus has ever been seen or photographed under electron microscopy. The "Terrain" (The biology of the human body) has always existed, so the virus was the only thing that could be called a "theory" - a profitable concept that became enshrined by the Rockefeller control of allopathic medicine in the aftermath of something called the "Flexner" report, published around 1910. Today, the leading instructors on presenting the data and history of the virus fraud I consider to be doctors Mark and Samantha (Sam) Bailey. Through her faithful and frequent video presentations she has managed to address most every question one could have to prove the non-existence of viruses and to support the growing NO VIRUS paradigm - a movement that is growing at international speed. The Orwellian distraction is the media gaslighting promoting "virus origins", "gain of function" and other concocted baffle-gab. The Pharma drug dealers no doubt hear the Rumble of awakening and are getting very concerned that the NO VIRUS paradigm will spark a revolution exposing all their past sins. ie: Aids, 1918 pandemic, Measles, Whooping cough and all those other household words that imply an invisible, transmissible virus is lurking at you. -- You can begin your journey by clicking around SAM's arsenal of videos - https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c?view=content
Thank you for your timely response. Yes, these are old posts, but Jeff posted this link in this morning’s C&C, so it’s new to me.
I did read all your previous posts on this thread and they comport with other information I’m already familiar with, although I appreciate revisiting the info you presented. I’ve also followed Dr Sam Bailey & am familiar enough with the arguments supporting both theories. I lean towards Dr Sam et al, but have this one sticking point.
Please read my question again and address it, if you’d be so kind, because I can never entirely move into the theory you propose unless what seems to be an observable contradiction can be explained. So far, I haven’t been able to find one and would like to remove the one sticking point that keeps me from fully advocating this theory.
Thank you so much for taking the time for my post.
How does the terrain theory explain what I described in my first comment re chicken pox and measles? That is, the apparent contagiousness and permanent immunity evidenced. (You must expand the comment for a full reading.)
I watched Dr Sam’s video on chicken pox. Mostly she was countering why vaccines are deemed necessary (which I already do likewise counter, for similar reasons) and she asserts that there must have been environmental or intrinsic reasons for the children’s concurrent bouts with chickenpox.
But unexplained is why younger siblings, coming along a year or two later, got sick when going through the same exposure process — while the slightly older children, also again exposed to these same factors did not get sick again. This was a repeated pattern. Whilst those around them who had no prior experience of chicken pox were getting ill, those with a prior one-time illness were not. Same environmental factors; different results. This indicates an immunity
I find that Dr Sam often begs the question and uses poor examples (straw men) to prove that good ones simply do not exist (an example is the limited circular references between sources and the CDC) and that lack of evidence (as presented in wikipedia, for example) proves that none exists! The mere fact of a statement, proven to merely presume something, does not necessarily mean that it is wrong, as she seems to imply.
The double standard at play here appears to be a lack of proof on EITHER side of this virus/no virus discussion. And the questions re contagion and acquired immunity, i.e. future protection, are not adequately answered.
Do you have a simple answer to my questions? If not — or if you feel that, after pointing me in the right direction that should suffice — I’ll ask no more of your time and evident good grace and I’ll gratefully be on my way!
He can't explain contagion any more than those snake oil-selling psyops Bailey, Cowan, and Kaufman. "Terrain theory" was debunked more than a century ago, but was "revived" in 2020 in order to distract the scientifically illiterate and gullible resisters to "covid-19 mandates". Of course those mandates SHOULD have been resisted, but not by denying the reality of the very dangerous and sinister scientific exploitation which developed and spread "SARS CoV-2" into the human population in order to deviously run their mRNA experiment on the entire world! Anyone pushing the anti-scientific rejection of viral existence should be considered a psyop suspect or a totally ignorant and gullible fool. Believing such nonsense and getting other fools on board is exactly what the evil bastards "on top" are counting on, so that their future bioweapons rollouts will be able to decimate even more unaware victims.
My intent is to point you to qualified references better than I can personally provide in this communication mode. Texting back and forth is a poor way to convey, explain and debate. But the German Supreme Court decision should answer your question on the fake measles virus. The central core is the failure of virologists to isolate any virus in over 100 years. Good luck
Yes. By this they were upholding the virus model, but in doing so, they fell into the ditch on the other side of the road wrt the vaccines ! Absolutely not safe or necessary. Stay in the fray, Carey :))!
[ Btw, I somehow lost my reply to your post up top. (Dang! I’d spent quite a while on it! ) I’ll try again later, and am grateful for your writing :)).
…I was not pleased by his response, although I’d bent over backwards to be politic & respectful.
My BS detector very soon began abuzzing as he was evasive and dismissive — and clearly he had not thoroughly read my posts either. He sure does strike me as a smooth old BSer.🤨 😊 ]
I see you're commenting on my post from was back in Aug, 2022. I retired from 30 year hospital career in cardiovascular technology back in 1996. As a specialist, I had no reason to question the virus theory until I was motivated to research the issue beginning with the Covid "scare-demic" in 2020. Even with plenty of time in retirement, it was only after 6 months that I began to understand why viruses have never been proven to exist because the most important test (Koch's Postulates) has never been achieved and also that not one virus has ever been seen or photographed under electron microscopy. The "Terrain" (The biology of the human body) has always existed, so the virus was the only thing that could be called a "theory" - a profitable concept that became enshrined by the Rockefeller control of allopathic medicine in the aftermath of something called the "Flexner" report, published around 1910. Today, the leading instructors on presenting the data and history of the virus fraud I consider to be doctors Mark and Samantha (Sam) Bailey. Through her faithful and frequent video presentations she has managed to address most every question one could have to prove the non-existence of viruses and to support the growing NO VIRUS paradigm - a movement that is growing at international speed. The Orwellian distraction is the media gaslighting promoting "virus origins", "gain of function" and other concocted baffle-gab. The Pharma drug dealers no doubt hear the Rumble of awakening and are getting very concerned that the NO VIRUS paradigm will spark a revolution exposing all their past sins. ie: Aids, 1918 pandemic, Measles, Whooping cough and all those other household words that imply an invisible, transmissible virus is lurking at you. -- You can begin your journey by clicking around SAM's arsenal of videos - https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c?view=content
Thank you for your timely response. Yes, these are old posts, but Jeff posted this link in this morning’s C&C, so it’s new to me.
I did read all your previous posts on this thread and they comport with other information I’m already familiar with, although I appreciate revisiting the info you presented. I’ve also followed Dr Sam Bailey & am familiar enough with the arguments supporting both theories. I lean towards Dr Sam et al, but have this one sticking point.
Please read my question again and address it, if you’d be so kind, because I can never entirely move into the theory you propose unless what seems to be an observable contradiction can be explained. So far, I haven’t been able to find one and would like to remove the one sticking point that keeps me from fully advocating this theory.
Thank you so much for taking the time for my post.
I saw no question marks in your comment. Please form a question in 1 or 2 sentences so I know what I'm answering. Thanks.....
My question is:
How does the terrain theory explain what I described in my first comment re chicken pox and measles? That is, the apparent contagiousness and permanent immunity evidenced. (You must expand the comment for a full reading.)
Thank you!
Fake Measles virus -- "German Supreme Court Rules Measles Virus Does Not Exist" - https://tinyurl.com/2p8ch7n4
This link to VIRUSES UNPLUGGED Sam Bailey answers your question on Chicken Pox and Measles - Go to the center column of videos - https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/viruses-unplugged/
I watched Dr Sam’s video on chicken pox. Mostly she was countering why vaccines are deemed necessary (which I already do likewise counter, for similar reasons) and she asserts that there must have been environmental or intrinsic reasons for the children’s concurrent bouts with chickenpox.
But unexplained is why younger siblings, coming along a year or two later, got sick when going through the same exposure process — while the slightly older children, also again exposed to these same factors did not get sick again. This was a repeated pattern. Whilst those around them who had no prior experience of chicken pox were getting ill, those with a prior one-time illness were not. Same environmental factors; different results. This indicates an immunity
I find that Dr Sam often begs the question and uses poor examples (straw men) to prove that good ones simply do not exist (an example is the limited circular references between sources and the CDC) and that lack of evidence (as presented in wikipedia, for example) proves that none exists! The mere fact of a statement, proven to merely presume something, does not necessarily mean that it is wrong, as she seems to imply.
The double standard at play here appears to be a lack of proof on EITHER side of this virus/no virus discussion. And the questions re contagion and acquired immunity, i.e. future protection, are not adequately answered.
Do you have a simple answer to my questions? If not — or if you feel that, after pointing me in the right direction that should suffice — I’ll ask no more of your time and evident good grace and I’ll gratefully be on my way!
Thanks again for your engagement.
He can't explain contagion any more than those snake oil-selling psyops Bailey, Cowan, and Kaufman. "Terrain theory" was debunked more than a century ago, but was "revived" in 2020 in order to distract the scientifically illiterate and gullible resisters to "covid-19 mandates". Of course those mandates SHOULD have been resisted, but not by denying the reality of the very dangerous and sinister scientific exploitation which developed and spread "SARS CoV-2" into the human population in order to deviously run their mRNA experiment on the entire world! Anyone pushing the anti-scientific rejection of viral existence should be considered a psyop suspect or a totally ignorant and gullible fool. Believing such nonsense and getting other fools on board is exactly what the evil bastards "on top" are counting on, so that their future bioweapons rollouts will be able to decimate even more unaware victims.
My intent is to point you to qualified references better than I can personally provide in this communication mode. Texting back and forth is a poor way to convey, explain and debate. But the German Supreme Court decision should answer your question on the fake measles virus. The central core is the failure of virologists to isolate any virus in over 100 years. Good luck
Many thanks, Harold.
Btw, he's totally misinformed or intentionally lying (a common tactic with the "terrain" psyop) about the German Supreme Court:
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/germanys-constitutional-court-upholds-measles-vaccine-mandate-children-2022-08-18/
Yes. By this they were upholding the virus model, but in doing so, they fell into the ditch on the other side of the road wrt the vaccines ! Absolutely not safe or necessary. Stay in the fray, Carey :))!
[ Btw, I somehow lost my reply to your post up top. (Dang! I’d spent quite a while on it! ) I’ll try again later, and am grateful for your writing :)).
…I was not pleased by his response, although I’d bent over backwards to be politic & respectful.
My BS detector very soon began abuzzing as he was evasive and dismissive — and clearly he had not thoroughly read my posts either. He sure does strike me as a smooth old BSer.🤨 😊 ]
God Bless!
Haha!! You have a very legitimate question! I am glad you asked it and wish those who subscribe to the no virus theory would weigh in!
Thank you!