Before I even read past the first, first intro paragraph--I want to share an encounter I had yesterday. A pleasantly-spoken CVS rep called at mid-day to speak with my husband, probably figuring that at age almost-76 he'd be at home in the day--not in his lab. I asked the purpose of the call? Well, there are several vaccines he's eligible…
Before I even read past the first, first intro paragraph--I want to share an encounter I had yesterday. A pleasantly-spoken CVS rep called at mid-day to speak with my husband, probably figuring that at age almost-76 he'd be at home in the day--not in his lab. I asked the purpose of the call? Well, there are several vaccines he's eligible for (cuz I doubt she said "for which he's eligible"). Sound of boiling blood--is that like a teakettle's noise just before it reaches the boil? I told her that I supposed she'd been getting paid a bonus for each jab she successfully conned people into taking. That I hoped she'd been putting that money into an interest-bearing account (not that such exist anymore). That she'd need it when the lawyers come after her. And closed urging her to "cover your backside. Also, we don't take any vaccines. Buh-bye!"
I had to undergo a major medical procedure yesterday, and I was asked many questions. One was did you take the covid vax. I said "Absolutely not." And got no push-back at all, I'm happy to say!
Was JUST about to type this. That’s my biggest fear. If I reveal I had the very first shot but no boosters, will they then think it’s ok to give me boosters while I’m under because I already was permissive with the first? If I’m someone who never had it in the first place, will they think they are doing humanity a favor by giving it to me while I’m under?
It’s a good idea to always have someone there with you during any procedure or surgery and specifically request that they can’t do anything other than the procedure specified on the consent form without asking you or, if you’re under anesthesia, asking the person you've designated as your power of attorney for healthcare decisions. That person should stay in the waiting area until you’re on the postop floor. Also, you can draw a line through and put your initials on anything in the consent form that you do not consent to. Or add it to the form. Again, essential to have a patient advocate with you.
Yep! When I about 40, I had a shoulder surgery and thank God! I was still coherent as the person prepping me started putting the Betadine on my right shoulder. I said, hey Dude, it's my left shoulder to which he said, no Sir, it's most often the right. I said, check the chart. He did, rested the chart back on my stomach and proceeded to swab the left..... dodged that bullet.
I also woke up in the middle of that surgery and asked the Dr. how it was going. He said, Mr. Horton, you are not supposed to be awake, nodded at the Anesthesiologist and that's the last thing I remembered....
I kid you not!
Keep a sharp eye out folks or have someone, who cares, watch your back!
You're experience isn't atypical, sad to say. We've experienced similar and witnessed worse, resulting in death. At least the deaths were very old people - they seem to get "terminal care" quite often.
I should say “not much respect” rather than “no respect.” There are, of course, many good medical practitioners out there who believe life is sacred. But if doctors and nurses are neither devout Christians nor devout Hindus (and some other religions), I’d be wary. Same with staffers.
(Timestamp is descending, testimony begins when 31:23 is remaining in hearing, runs about ten minutes)
Despite this public hearing and the outrage and disgust the legislators had during the hearing the bill failed and it is still legal in Massachusetts and most states for doctors to sexually assault their patients while they're anesthetized, without their consent.
That elite school thing Jeff wrote about how they think of the deplorable, stupid proles reaches everywhere, leaders and top officials are trained to think like this. Especially into the allopathic medical industry.
It's taught and called Utilitarian ethics. Greater good. The justification for these types of offenses and assaults is "you might say "no." On the record in that hearing recording link I provided above. Go in to get your tonsils removed, an appendectomy, leave walking funny, and not from the surgery. You might've said "no" if you knew. And they needed to be trained, practice. Your body served a greater good.
A sickening truth about the risks everyone faces when anesthetized in a hospital. And how the 'elite' think about everything they do, every violation of our individual rights. The collective is more important. Greater good.
That's why I looked around until I found someone and somewhere (out of state) that would do a hip replacement out patient. I was not about to go into a kill zone for anything elective . Still won't
I agree with you completely. I was speaking of those who do not take statins. And probably the statins and the anesthesia together, cause it to come on faster or to be more severe or both.
Wow. I used to think most doctors got into it because they wanted to help people, or for the money and prestige. Now, my default take is they want to indulge their creepiness and psychopathic urge to hurt people. I realize there are a few good ones scattered amongst the scum.
Thing is, most do get into it for all the reasons you state. But one of the witnesses in the testimony link I provide above describes how the psychopathy is trained *into* them in medical school. "If you want to be a doctor this is what's involved. Deal with it or do something else for a living."
This is the beginning of the negotiation of morals and ethos. The price of entry. And once paid each subsequent negotiation gets easier and easier to rationalize. Until the morals and ethos they had when they first got into the field become a quaint memory, tsk-tsk'd as naiveté.
Those who were already psychopaths before they got into the field become Larry Nassar's. The Olympic doctor serial rapist now in prison. How many more still out there?
With RARE exception every licensed medical professional demonstrated how easy it is to get them to negotiate away their morals and ethos during the pandemic. Their actions are proof positive that nearly all value their license to practice medicine more than they value the lives of their patients. NEVER trust your health and life to the care of someone who cares more about their paycheck than your life. Their negotiations place more value on *their* lives, status, comforts and self-image than *your* life or the lives of your loved ones.
Never forget that nobody has as much concern or at stake for your life than you do. Self-preservation relies on self, not others. Assistance is great, sometimes necessary. But you make the most important decisions. And it's incumbent on you to do your own research about matters involving your own health and life. Blind trust is for suckers.
Somebody could make a fortune if they opened up a website which could personalize a person's health data (very importantly including all the information regarding what one can present for their UNIQUE situation/ experience) .
In other words...... what the "medical professionals" have no time to listen to !
( the fortune COULD be used to further advance this concept ) . If one had that in their heart to do so .
Kinda like naturapaths are supposed to do ..... though they do seem to charge a LOT .
Yep. The looks on the faces of the committee members were pure disgust. Everybody in the hearing room was disgusted to learn. The hospitals had nobody there to testify against the bill. The practice is indefensible. The application of utilitarianism usually is. So indefensible that the elite public policymakers will only articulate justification for utilitarian-driven decisions behind closed doors, among friends, other "experts" who have to make the "difficult choices" unburdened by the emotional, unsophisticated sentiments of the proles. Who could never understand or appreciate what a "greater good" entails. And so, the bill was killed behind closed doors, without a public vote.
Medical rape is definitely a thing… always talk to your doctor before having any kind of medical procedure in-house… Tell them you do NOT want them examining you like that and make sure it’s on paper!
I never seen this in any of the hospitals I worked at. But I have been in contact with several women who have had this kind of thing done to them!
And the thing is, for most it's not even a purient, sexual gratification thing. Is why they don't feel anything wrong doing it. They have a professional detachment.
Supposedly that's supposed to make the victim feel better. There's actually a lot of people who do consent, for the collective, greater good. Like those who volunteer for drug trials.
But apparently not enough volunteer. So they conscript the unknowing, the trusting, the anesthetized. Who wants to be conscripted into "intimate examinations?" A room full of trainees staring deep inside your fully exposed privates under a spotlight while you're out for an appendectomy, an unwitting model for aspiring gynecologists.
But it's okay, it's medical, professional, no biggie!
And the older you are, the more crucial it becomes to have a clear-headed authorized agent with you. Aging uselesss eaters are still targets of a certain sector of the medico-pharma collaborative.
these people don't do informed consent anymore and they surely do not care what your personal convictions are. I will never go again to a hospital or for any surgery at all. My trust for the entire healthcare industry is zero and cannot be repaired.
Amen and I have worked in healthcare (Diagnostic imaging now) for over 30 years.
We are on our own. It is up to us to research, listen to good doctors we can trust (that just make sense) like Dr Ken D Berry and Dr Shawn Baker (former USAF Orthopedic Surgeon, veteran (possibly combat?)
Hospital emergency rooms are for emergencies, not your strep throat or fever in the middle of the night. That's what urgent care is for, and if you have a family doctor, you call and get in as a sick patient in the morning. I have seen too many cases of people getting nosocomial infections that could kill them after minor and major surgeries or ER visits. Mostly antibiotic resistant bacteria like MRSA.
I stay away from the hospital if possible. I'll go for broken bones or stitches maybe, but not if I can help it!
Yes. This. Have someone there at all times. Important: Make absolutely sure you have the correct heathcare directive completed (in the state where procedures are performed). See an attorney if needed. Hospitals are notorious for ignoring these documents, and if you go to court, the forms need to be executed perfectly, and on file wherever you go.
Question: How do the hospitals receive these forms and requests? Are they accepting of it or will it cause them to be less than cordial? I will be having knee replacement and don’t trust doctors of hospitals these days. I don’t want someone mad at me going in.
Julie, will they allow you in the operating room? I don’t think so. Even if they did, it would take one second to slip in that needle and push. Don’t blink!
In addition to crossing out anything you disagree/ don't consent to, please write in "no biologics including blood transfusions." Donate your own blood ahead of elective procedure. Biologics are all those things "created" in a lab & foreign to our biology.
Juju - We used to do a lot of hiking in Scotland but stopped going during covid because we refused to take the jabs. Even after the insanity of the covid passports was sort of gone, I had fears of breaking an ankle or something and being denied medical care because of no jabs.
Now I don’t go because they’ve become so authoritarian and I’m afraid it’s my mouth that might land me in trouble. Yeaaaaaa for independent thinking and free speech loving Americans (well, those of us on the right, anyway.)
Yes, what has happened to our Motherlands......??? Just pitiful. I know there have to be many who are independent thinkers and care for their freedoms and Western European heritage. The media there seems to portray them as a bunch of toothless, bigoted clots with a strong Neanderthal lineage -what an utter load of crap!!!
I know - so disheartening. I will say that we have some long time English friends (friendship of over 30 years) who are conservative but with whom I had an email exchange about Elon Musk. They were not happy that Musk was “interfering” by commenting on the Muslim issue as “it was causing problems.” I asked them just who it was they thought should control who is allowed to speak and what is allowed to be said.
But I don’t think they truly get that today it’s Elon but tomorrow the government (or the mob) can come after them too. I am thankful every day for our First Amendment and for our occasional orneriness as Americans.
Considering that they are after the money, it would be impossible of them to hide the fact if they did give it to you. I have thought about that scenario too… I would put it into writing what and what not they could do during the procedure.
From what I've read, the pre-op docs one has to sign are SO vague, they could pretty much do whatever they wanted and be able to justify it via your signature. My next thought is, if the pre-op docs are so vague, intentionally, so as to be able to take advantage, what compels them to be honest in the post-op docs? Of course......how many patients actually read those? Would most even know how to obtain them?
When I next sign the form for consent to treat I will handwrite no vaccines or injections over my signature. Because there is some vague consent to therapies in that form.
My Dad passed away in Sept. he had a lot of issues that would lead one to believe it was the jab. He was NOT jabbed and I had better never find out that on one of his hospital stays he was given it. My BP could not handle that! And I don’t want to go to prison. 😖
I'm so sorry for your loss. Dad's are very special. Although I have heard of hospitals and doctors giving the bioweapon jab without consent, it is very possible his symptoms were from shedding. I personally know 3 people who were not jabbed, but we're in very close contact soon after those who were. All were in early 2021...Pulmonary embolism, glioblastoma, and a brain bleed. One of the three is still with us.
Thank you. He didn’t get out and about much. Only Drs 🥴 he had a stroke 10 years ago and his mobility was poor. He preferred being home. He had sepsis and riddled with cancer. We didn’t know until his final 2 months.
Always read everything at the hospital. Arguing with them is acceptable. I am
convinced that my husband was jabbed in 2021 when he was in the hospital but I was not permitted anywhere near him. NO VISITORS PERMITTED! I am his designated Health Care Surrogate. I called the nursing station and gave them explicit orders regarding vaccines/treatments. But he came home a week later and has suffered all sorts of “mystery ailments” since then. Vertigo. Neuropathy. Loss of Balance. We got his hospital notes but I’m convinced they’ve been falsified by omission. He just got a hip replacement last week and we gave his surgeon explicit instructions prior to the procedure. Thankfully, he’s a Conservative and not tied to a big medical association. So we trust him a bit more.
If you want a definite answer, I've read in several places that there is a blood test that can determine if a person ever had the jab, even. vs. having been exposed to covid the normal way.
I think I'm going to require a contract signature before my next surgery stating no vaccines or other type injections will be administered and, if found that it was done, each party agrees to pay $1 million each. They might not sign it, but they will know I am serious about ruthlessly suing should they penetrate my jab virginity...
They won’t do your surgery. We had a patient request that and the provider wouldn’t sign so they cancelled it. I do anesthesia and have for 15 years. No one has ever even mentioned jabbing someone under anesthesia. It’s talk like this that makes people think you’re nuts
Sorry, but it's only one tiny step from what happened with COVID jabs and how hospitals disregarded patient directives and took actions that killed people to inject that poison.
Did you not pay attention to the COVID hospital protocols, sheriffs removing patient's family, putting people on vents despite directives preventing it, defying court orders to allow administering of Ivermectin? Where where you when all that happened?
I explicitly told the nurses three times in two shifts to NOT inject anything in my mother that wasn't specifically related to her condition directly related to the hospital stay. "But we give everyone this. It's just a precaution." And my siblings had to fight them off for the additional three days. 24x7 attention to avoid following THEIR protocols.
YOU might never do such a thing. Your team of anesthesia docs and those who conduct the surgeries you support might not. But you cannot make that claim and say I sound nuts making statements like that any longer when it comes to how a hospital's staff treats patients when they cannot respond. The facts are, it happened and could still happen.
Trust, once broken, is rarely restored. Deal with it.
I work in the hospital. I advocated for measures such as high dose vitamin c and d. If you want to look like a kooky conspiracy theorist, go for it. I’m unjabbed and I’ll tell you, I’ve done this for 15 years and never seen anyone even mention it, nor would I let anyone touch my patient without their consent.
I missed your point until this reply. It finally dawned on me that I live by the advice you're providing every day, using a more practical method of addressing concerns particularly when I'm not sure if others agree with me.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. I can be thick headed on items I consider based on principles. It can take me a while to see the message.
I just want you to know not all fell for it and I would NEVER allow someone to inject a patient of mine. Please know not every person fell for it. Especially small town facilities
Someone else here said to make sure you write no vaccines and initial it on that paper. You have to sign for going under anesthesia. And then you tell the anesthesiologist when he or she comes to visit you as well. They're the same ones who ask you if you want a blood transfusion should you need one.
Nothing. I do anesthesia and I’ve never even heard anyone bring up jabbing someone while they’re sleeping. This is what makes people peg us all as nuts
I went for my yearly physical a few months ago and at one point my doctor said, “You haven’t had a Covid vaccination…you don’t want that…. riiight…?” like he already knew the answer. We’ve never talked politics but I get the impression he’s pretty based. He clearly indicated on prior visits how stupid he thought the whole mask thing was
I've finally gotten the attention of the supervised living place where my nephew resides. Now, the annual call is, "you don't want Ben to get the flu shot, right?" Big change from when they harassed me constantly to get him the covid shot. I told them often and loudly just how I felt about the ridiculous masks and limited visits they permitted the residents. And yes, I'm still bitter.
I told my doctor the first time I went back after the Covid scam that I wouldn’t be taking any vaxxes ever, no mammograms and no colonoscopies and she didn’t need to ask me again. I said I’ll get my weight, heart and lung auscultation and lab work but that’s it. She agreed.
Same here. Will never get another mammogram or colonoscopy. My doctor doesn’t argue with me anymore about it. He also knows not to even ask me about flu vaccines or COVID jab. He doesn’t necessarily agree but at least he doesn’t bring it up.
Hubby had several surgeries and each time before allowing me back with him they asked if he was being abused at home, he's 6'+, splits wood all day long, 63, former Marine, and sane but no one ever asked me if I was being abused, <5'5", 63, overweight and crabby. 🤷🏼♀️ Never vaxxd.🎉🎉
I think it's an insurance or hospital credentialing requirement for them to ask these things. Problem is that (1) lots of abused persons never consider the abusive behavior as "abuse." "Abuse" is a word most people don't think of in regard to themselves, even if they're being pushed, shoved, controlled, etc. (2) who's going to admit it in front of their spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend.
Perhaps well-intentioned but definitely poorly executed.
Copernicus, yes. It's often CMS mandated/ credentialling/ reimbursement related & DATA collection. It's mind boggling the amount of information there is about us flying around on the internet!
I had a surgery on my hand. Before sedation, I was asked by the nurse if I have fallen. I told her I slipped and fell a couple days before, why? She said we need to know if you are at risk. After my surgery and I was awake they had me WALK unattended to our waiting car!!
At risk for what? Another fall? More depression? Ugh.
One of my relatives was recently in hospital and needed care coordination. Part of the intake was a CMS-mandated question asking if they ever felt lonely even when around family and friends? What?
Great question. Not something that needs (1) asked without immediate follow-up depending on answer (2) asked without MEANINGFUL follow-up and not just meds and (3) to be enshrined in an EMR. Oh, and (4) may or may not be appropriate to ask IN FRONT OF said family.
I’m headed to Cleveland Clinic in early May and am curious about what questions they will ask me. Last time I was there was late 2022 and the covid nonsense was still happening.
Back then I had to stay overnight in an observation unit and the nurse kept insisting I had to have a covid test. This was AFTER I already had my procedure! I kept telling him no, and finally I said “if you make me have that I will leave right now.” This was around midnight. I also informed him that on the facility website that it stated a test was not required. He finally gave up. So stupid.
Wanted that bonus payment for taking care of a Covid patient. Also could have then shuttled you off to $$$ ICU and the big money. The horror! I wonder how many people they “got” this way?
I had a similar situation in our hospital ER. I went in for a possible heart attack, but their main mission was to test me for covid. This was in 2023! I kept saying no to the test, they sent in the "bigger guns", finally I said, "If you don't accept my NO, I am getting out of this bed right now and leaving". Within 20 minutes I was "released" after being there for 7 hours for heart tests, and supposedly, there was now nothing wrong with me, everything was just fine. They did not even give me copies of my blood tests/ or anything except four pages of information on covid. That fiasco was billed to medicare for over $6K (which they paid a minuscule fraction , the rest written off.) And you wonder why health care is in such a mess! Go Bobby!!
Yes, when you check in, don’t sign on the electronic pad after scrolling through pages of fine print giving them all kinds of broad permisssions. Tell them you can’t read the electronic version and to print it all out on paper. Then you can cross-out and write-in as you please, initialing each change you make, before you put your signature on it. Then have them make a copy “for my records.”
IMHO, it's not enough to just cross things out and sign it. Most healthcare professionals don't actually read it and carry the consciousness that they are in charge and have the power to overturn your instructions and make choices for you because they know better. This is where anticipating the weak link comes in. It would be best to loudly and vocally make sure EVERYONE knows that you are not to be injected with any vaccine or mrna injection at any time, to hand out copies of your highlighted instructions to everyone who has the ability to inject you with anything, and to make sure that they understand that your health advocate and lawyer are physically in the hospital or on standby to make sure your instructions are followed, or else. Because once you get injected - "Oh, sorry, we missed that" - or learn they injected you while you were under anyway, then it cannot be undone. This happened to someone I know. She suspected she was given the vax at a routine doctor's visit, even though she said she didn't want one. Later on the doctor refused to release a copy of her medical file.
Yeah, but the defense attorney will say, "Prove it". You can be sure that there will be no direct link of causation, and no record anywhere in the doc's files.
Yes and give yourself plenty of time to go through all the documents they want you to sign. Think of how many people just blindly sign them without reading what they’ve agreed to and who all has access to your electronic chart??
Can they send these documents out ahead of time so patients don't have to sign them at the time of admission, when they have more time and brain band-width to read/edit the documents?
Here is a company leading the grassroots effort to keep at least part of the blood supply clean for those who donate and those who need a blood donation https://safeblood.com/
I’ve just started a book by a cardiologist named William Davis called “Undoctored”. Fascinating reading and his YouTube channel is packed with knowledge. His concern and kindness shine through clearly and he breaks down concepts clearly and respectfully. I encourage you to pick up a copy and find out just how many of those doctors you really need! 🥰🙏🏻✝️
Were you down here at the FL site? Not that it matters, the whole thing is a perfect reflection of their Brookings Institution board members: Elitist, Democrat, smarmy, and woke.
Yes. At one point there was a guy walking through the lobby hawking the COVID shot, saying it was his last one. I made the mistake of ending up on the elevator with him and he asked me if I wanted it. I said no thank you. There were several other maddening encounters. But the interventional radiologist probably saved my life by coiling an AVM in my brain. So that’s worth something I guess!
As for me having seen so many doctors, my GP is a wonderful Christian man who is holistic in approach and he takes good care of me. I just have abnormal issues that can’t be helped without physical intervention if they even know what to do for me! I’ve been called an “anomaly” and “rare” and “unusual.” Fun times. To God be the glory!
No kidding! I worked in Neurosurgery! Was it Dave Miller (I hope)?
At the end of my 16 years there, I did a long-term float in Employee Health. My job was to catch up the site on N95 fit testing and give flu shots. This was 2021, so we were still getting sweated by the Covid jab brownshirts. That declination process would have made Torquemada blush. I didn’t give the Covid jabs but I had a few heart-to-hearts with people that were conflicted on the matter.
My husband goes there every year. They never mention the c shot.
But, when he had a procedure there, he was required to be swabbed for c the day before the procedure. Cleansing his nose with diluted betadyne prior to swab works. 😀
I did too, last March! I had emergency surgery (in Florida) and was asked that also, I replied the same, and got no push back either. When I was asked to sign the "life saving blood transfusion' form, I asked, yes, if I can have "unvaccinated blood". Sorry, no can do! Because it was "emergency" and not scheduled, if you need it, you're going to get whatever the have on hand. They said if I wanted unvaccinated blood, I would have to have collect my own BEFORE the surgery...so if you are going in for a scheduled procedure, be sure to do so you can remain a "pureblood" 🙂👍
We were told they “only use unvaxxd” blood 🙄 My Mom was so glad - I’m like and you believe that?? Probably not in this blue HH state. They obviously must hear it a lot.
HH blue state, I wouldn't believe that for a minute either! My husband was in a hospital on Cape Cod for 3 weeks in 2022 for a blood infection. They were trying to find a rehab facility in MA (we live in FL), The HC advocate said none will take him "because he's not vaccinated", finally, he was able to get PT at a hotel,until well enough to travel home. I often wonder if they did inject him with the "vaxx"in MA...he ended up at a rehab facility in FL for 2 weeks, got C-diff there (resistance was low, due anti-biotics) then died from an acute gastrointestional bleed a week after his release... I got all hospitals & rehab records, I did not see anywhere if he had been "vaccinated", but medical facilities wouldn't lie...right?🤨
Karen, I'm very sorry to hear about your husbands illness & your loss. Unfortunately, it is quite common for people to get C-diff after being on antibiotics. Probiotics given concurrently & for at least 2 weeks following can sometimes be a proactive approach. Eating fermented foods is probably even better.
Yeah - they are not averse to lying right? If they can deliberately continue a vax practice that clearly harms /kills, then lying about other practices is second nature.
I have investigated this, and while I may have missed some small outifits, virtually all major outfits do not separate blood. If they exist, I don't know where, and believe me, I have looked. Don't put yourself in a position you may need an emergency transfusion.
There is a company that only receives and gives pure blood. I think the name is pure blood but it’s been awhile since I checked in to it. Because I had Covid once and I got the nose swab once I was rejected to give or receive blood with that company.
Thank you . Still can't see anywhere to donate except in a direct "in the name of" situation where someone locally needs blood. Shows just how thoroughly captured the medical establishment is, though I already knew that after dealing with my wife's cancer outside of it. Maybe one day, but there is so much that needs to be undone . I sent it out to all of the unjabbed people I know. Thanks again.
I hate to say this but, then again, ..... I'm ready to die. I would die before going to a hospital or having a procedure now post covid. I went to the gym today for the first time since 2021. They require you now to wipe down your equipment before and after use and 6 feet distancing.
I will be going at 5 a.m. when they open so there is no one there. I cannot believe this is still going on.
Ok, I'm off the internet for today. I have cut out all internet except Jeff Childers blog. That and music and curated older black and white movies. All of the rest is CIA infiltrated trash.
It's so lonely now out here.
I wish for each of you blessings and love overflowing in this Easter season.
That's why stopped giving blood after more than 50 years. Unless and until The Red Commies start separating jabbed and pureblood, I 'll never donate again.
I stopped donating to the Red Cross when I discovered they were selling my blood. Then I read about their no action in Haiti with the millions given to them because of Hillary.
Thanks— And I certainly hope your ‘procedure’ went swimmingly! I do recall that, summer of ‘21, when I had damaged my back and was frequently visiting the medical office, each time being asked if I’d taken the vax, one intake nurse replied, “But I respect your choice”—which he needn’t have said. And I have always wondered if he was tacitly expressing regret.
One regulatory agency or another makes us ask our patients as part of the admission process if they’ve “completed” their Covid vaccine regimen (as if that was ever intended to be possible). I always congratulate the ones who have declined, which is as joyous an occasion for me as it is unfortunately rare.
I was asked prior to cataract surgery. I’m not sure if it’s precautionary or an artifact from the olden days. No push back just like you. It made me chuckle since I thought they were tracking like everything else…
My young eye dr, optomilogist?, was masked at my last appt two years ago. I asked him why. He said there's no air flow in the exam room. I should have walked out knowing he was that stupid!
The one and only timer we saw an oncologist before we wisely addressed her breast cancer holistically, he was double masked. Heard about people like that, but he was the only one ever saw.
Watch out. They’re vaccinating people while they are under and not telling them. This seems illegal. One person only found out when they checked their records. It’s crazy, are we still talking about a virus?
I pulled up to the window at CVS to pick up meds for my girlfriend whose car I was driving. Before asking her name, he asked if we were up to date on our vaccines! She asked why he wanted to know... "so I can get you those and add the info in your record..." She replied that we were there to pick up her medications. He asked again after she paid, "Can I let you know what your record shows? You've not had four of the vaccines listed for someone of your advanced age!" Well, she is 88, So... "Buddy, you're here at a drive through window, providing prescriptions I require for my heart. That's all. You can take those vaccines, and I use the term "vaccines " very loosely... and you can shove them where the sun don't shine!"
"Well, I have heard that exact response nearly every time I've asked..."
I’m sure the poor guy is being required by CVS to ask every customer the same question, and being recorded as well. I feel bad for young people in such jobs these days. But the likelihood is he never had parents who taught him to find work that matched his moral code and value system, if he was even taught any kind of moral code. I quit several jobs during my career for that reason, including my final one—airline purser—when things went sideways in 2020.
We have a real problem in this country with undisclosed conflicts of interest. These kickbacks are so common that many people consider them just a normal business practice rather than what they actually are, petty corruption.
Add to that the disingenuousness of modern marketing, e.g. calling you pretending it's out of concern for your health rather than the real motivator, them making money. Dishonesty is everywhere in our system, it was normalized after World War 2 as media-pushed "judeo-christianity" replaced historic Christianity in business ethics. The golden rule went out the window. Concern for the well-being of others morphed into "if you are so stupid you fall for my scam then that's on you".
I use to see the eye doctor once a year after getting constant hounding "reminders" about the importance of eye health. They'd run all kinds of tests, never find anything wrong, then make a slight tweak in my eyeglass prescription (that made no difference in vision). They'd then bill the insurance company for some absurd amount and hit me for a hundred or two in deductibles. What a racket. After several years of this I got fed up.
Now I just buy -1 diopter eyeglasses on Amazon for $15 and they work great, I only need them for driving. Those reminders from the eye doctor go right in the trash. They are just a level above an Indian call center scam, as is much of the medical industry.
Do not understand the meaning of your statement “judeo-Christianity” replaced historic Christianity in business ethics. Is this a slur on Jewish business persons? If so, that statement is malicious unadvised. My experiences, as a Gentile dealing with genuinely devout G-d fearing Jewish business persons, have only been equitable. Our combined application of moral obedience to scripture (standing on a wall made with a plumbline with a plumbline in your hand) inserts G-D’s wisdom into the equation and guarantees fairness.
I agree. It seems that hatred of anything ‘Jewish’ has once again taken hold of so-called ‘Christians’ and the so-called ‘church’. The ‘church’ (not in Scripture, anywhere (it is the ‘ecclesia’) seems to have decided to hate the very people group who gave us Yeshua. And we know where that hatred comes from. And it isn’t God.
It's not a hatred of "anything Jewish" (well maybe it is for some people but there's all sorts of nuts out there) but a recognition that we are Christians first and foremost. We follow Christ alone, and those who don't accept Him as Lord and Savior will not be saved. I know people find this controversial but it's basic Christian teaching for two millennia as Jesus Himself said it.
There is no such thing as "judeo-christianity", it's just Christianity. People who practice Judaism and do not accept Christ are not redeemed. They are lost. We should pray for them, treat them kindly, and share the gospel with them, not pretend we are some sort of nebulous common religion and they get a free pass to salvation. And we should absolutely not be following their advice on *anything* theology or morality related. Just as we wouldn't from a Muslim or Hindu. We are Christians, but often seem to forget that.
(Side note in that this is why I get so annoyed at Christians lapping up Ben Shapiro's lecturing on morality, and his arrogance in thinking he has any say in telling Christians how to behave. Would you accept that from an imam or a shaman?)
I put a long post below describing where this stuff originated and at it's core is a rejection of the centrality of Christ. But there is no other way. This other stuff is meant to mislead people, call it judeo-christianity, christlamism, new age nonsense, or whatever, but it's all the same. It's message is that there are many paths to salvation, and Christ is one of many ways.
I call it judeo-christianity as that's how it's most commonly known and it has pervaded many churches, it's not to single out Judaism. It's moral relativism rather than New Testament biblical truth. But to be clear, Talmudic Judaism without Christ is a false religion. If you disagree with that you have a problem with the New Testament, not me.
Judeo-christianity is a phony media-created term that honors neither Judaism or Christianity. It's a mish-mash of feel good platitudes, not a true ethical system determined by God's Word.
There is no such thing as judeo-christianity, you know that and I know that. I wouldn't be welcome to preach Christ's gospel in your synagogue, nor should I be. Nor should Talmudic Judaism be welcome in a Christian church. The two belief systems are incompatible.
So let's not pretend we are all just one big religious blob that believe the same thing, we don't. Judeo-christianity was invented to water down the beliefs of the dominant religion in the US, which is Christianity (70% of the population vs. 2% Jewish). It was invented to undermine the primary tenant of the Christian faith, i.e. Christ's words. "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one shall come to the Father except through me".
The idea of judeo-christianity advanced moral relativism in a dominant Christian nation. It advanced the notion that all roads lead to heaven provided one considers themselves a "good person". Morality was inverted from pleasing to God to pleasing oneself. The idea that one must live a life following Christ and of holiness (that is, set apart) morphed into if it feels good do it. So your religion is no different than mine after all since we are all "judeo-christians".
If you want to take it as a slur that's your prerogative. But think about this, you would never in your life call yourself a "judeo-christian", that I'm certain of. You would consider it demeaning and insulting (righty so by the way). You probably also think Christians are damned as non-believers. So let's not get to far up on our high horse about bigotry and making slurs.
Last off, I know there are many (primarily Orthodox) Jews who attempt to live humble lives pleasing to God in obedience to Mosaic Law. I have nothing but respect for these people. But that's not every non-Christian, or even every Jew, it's a tiny minority. But you are you one who tried to conflate my use of the "Christianity" (i.e. one who sincerely follows Christ) with being a gentile and paint with broad strokes. You compared the behavior of devout Jews to "gentiles". I never used that word, you did. You were the one who tried to make this about ethnicity, not me.
I attend a Messianic Synagogue that attempts to serve G-d like the 1st century Believers, who were at the beginning, all Jews.
You would be welcome. Also, I would not think anybody was damned—-in the Bible book of Jude it is written that Gabriel, when disputing with satan over the body of Moses would not bring an accusation but said the Lord rebuke you. My intention is to not slander anyone. The chief angel would not even slander satan. That’s G-D’s territory.
ps. I come from the Jesus Movement of the 60-70’s and have witnessed Jew and Gentle becoming the biblical “one new man”. It is a process that will be completed rapidly at the end times when “all Israel will be saved”.
Enough from me for now but please forgive me if I have inadvertently offended you. (No forgiveness is necessary for the Word).
My brother, I made a really bad assumption that you practiced Judaism (i.e. were a non-Christian) based on the language you used. Huge mistake on my part and apologies.
If anyone has earned the right to be called a Judeo-Christian it is you. My writing above was not at all about Messianic Jews, but a contrived religion that lumps Talmudic Judaism and Christianity together as some sort of religious blob (hence the reason I didn't capitalize judeo-christianity). That's what I was going on about, as it really was the start of the "all roads lead to heaven" and moral relativism that took off after World War 2 (intentionally I believe). Timeline searches of the term in media show it was unheard of prior to WW2 and took off in the 1950's. It was promoted.
I think you are the first Messianic Jew I've ever traded comments with so please forgive my erroneous assumption. I learned something today and thank you for it.
In order to honor the Name, it is not completely spelled out in the event the carrying document is destroyed. That is my understanding. Honestly I was annoyed by this practice for a while, thinking it was extra Biblical. I needed to get over it to be in unity with the congregation leadership and not offend. It is not prohibited by scripture and it
is respectful to others that may get offended. Thanks for asking.
Very interesting thread here. I have evolved on this hyphenated construct of Judeo-Christian, which seemed to emerge in the early 90s, but I could be wrong. I remember Pat Buchanan offering it up. It seemed harmless and innocent enough, but now I think it is a way to dilute Christianity, and also to isolate Muslims, so I no longer use it.
Many of my Christian evangelical friends are deep into this hyphenated construct. But they also follow the Schofield Bible, and have some very questionable notions about the end times IMO.
Christianity should be teaching us that the old Testament is strictly historic. From my reading, God eventually got tired of the Jews turning away from him and sinning, and thus, through JC, discarded the blood line covenant and sent his only begotten son, to create a new covenant for ALL to be a part of. No longer was it a matter of lineage or DNA. Rather, the only requirement is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
So in that sense, there is no present day connection between Judaism and Christianity day. Thus, it is wrong to hyphenate and conflate the two. They are two entirely distinct faiths
But I am sure people out there may disagree with this view. I am open to hear thoughts, but the idea that there’s a blurry line between Judaism and Christianity doesn’t make any sense to me.
It's something I unquestioningly accepted for a long time. I think I first heard it used in the expression "judeo-christian morality" which I took as a harmless way of describing the idea we follow morality taught in the Bible.
But I began to notice it was being more widely used as describing a religious movement "judeo-christianity" particularly in the media but also in the Scofield Dispensationalist sects (of which I once was one but no longer am). It made me wonder why we were using the same language as the overtly non-Christian secular media. It's obvious the media has an agenda to subvert Church authority and influence, and aren't our friends. So why are we using their language?
I realized that many Christians (particularly Dispensationalists) view those who follow Judaism as something like "almost-Christians". They only believe the first 2/3rds of the Bible while we believe the whole thing. But that completely ignores the Talmud which was written after the Resurrection. Most Jews view the Talmud equal to the Torah (the OT), many even hold it as even more influential. And the Talmud is a hyper-legalistic book that is completely at odds with Christianity. Among other things, it's the rabbinical interpretation of Mosaic Law. When you hear a Jewish person having all sorts of little tricks used to evade Mosaic Law prohibitions, that's the Talmud talking.
But as Christians, we believe Christ's death and Resurrection ended the old covenant once and for all. The Law (i.e. the Torah) showed us that no man can meet God's perfect standard thus the only answer is the vicarious atonement of Christ. "All men have fallen short of the glory of God" as Paul wrote. So the Old Covenant was meant to lead us to Christ, not save us. Christ is the New Covenant, the Old Covenant is finished.
But most Jews didn't accept Christ and continued to try and earn salvation through the Law. However, the Temple being destroyed in AD 70 (as Christ prophesied) ended the Jewish sacrificial system that was used for atonement. So Judaism went further off the rails with hyper-legalism and loopholes codified in the Talmud. It was a desperate attempt to keep a now obsolete (rendered such by the New Covenant) and impossible (with the Temple destroyed) system functioning, and hence became more and more disconnected from the OT.
So now we have two incompatible beliefs, biblical Christianity and Talmudic Judaism, which had functioned separately for 1900 years suddenly lumped together as "judeo-christianity" and done so mostly by the non-Christian media. Timeline searches show the phrase doesn't seem to have been used before the 1950's. Certainty the great Fathers of the Church never used it, and probably would be appalled at the phrase. But it's a really good way to water down and deemphasize fundamental Christian teaching, particularly the absolute necessity to accept Christ for one's salvation.
As to Scofield, it's very likely he was played or was a willing participant in this whole mess. The man had a very checkered past (abandoned his wife and kids, fraud, even jail) that he never publicly repented from. He routinely misstated his education claiming he had a Divinity Doctorate which was false. He had mysterious financial backers for his study bible that have never been explained. Someone paid him to write it, publish it, and distribute it world-wide. Add to that Dispensationalism was invented in the 1800's by John Nelson Darby and was *never* taught by the historic Church in the previous 1800 years of Christendom. Another modern creation just like "judeo-christianity".
If you'd like to know more about Scofield's past read "the Incredible Scofield and His Book" published by Joseph Canfield. It's out of print but copies can be found online. It's meticulously researched and footnoted and leaves no doubt about Scofield's character. It has has some pretty convincing speculation (backed by evidence) on who was paying for the Scofield Bible and why. It ties into this whole topic.
This book, and the Book of Hebrews, are what broke me out of Dispensationalism after thirty years.
Thanks for this thorough and very clear summary and explanation.
Yes to “So the Old Covenant was meant to lead us to Christ, not save us. Christ is the New Covenant, the Old Covenant is finished.”.
Which raises huge questions on why the obsession with Israel among so many US Evangelical churches. And look into their funding, and how much they get their members in turn to fundraise for Israel.
The chief backer for the Scofield Bible from my reading was Samuel Untermeyer, who had ties to establishment of the Federal Reserve and other initiatives. Combined these institutions served to move us away from bedrock Christianity, and away from our independence as a nation.
Probably because of the actions of the state of Israel, which also happens to be the most heavily C19 vaxxed place on the planet, via governmental mandate. There's also their refusal to register their influence lobby operation as a foreign agent. Funny how JFK was killed during his massive fight to force them to follow US law, only to have LBJ immediately cave & let them have this weird unjustified exemption from complying with the FARA act, which somehow continues to this day. It's not hatred, it's just noticing.
Money for this must be coming from the government and it needs to be shut down. Paying doctors and pharmacies to give shots is bribery. No different from payola.
Eyeglass prescription are written in diopters, it’s a measurement of how much correction is needed. Reading glasses at the drugstore are typically +1.0, 1.5, and so on (measurements are professionally down to the .25 level of change). Farsightedness (you can’t see near) usually means + diopters and nearsightedness (you can’t see far) are in - diopters. Before I had cataract surgery, my eyeglass prep was -8.0/+2.0 … blind in both directions! I couldn’t see my face in the mirror. Now I have artificial lenses in my eyes and can see 20/20 without glasses for the first time in 45 years.
Yes you absolutely can. If you are near-sighted (far things are blurry) just order glasses with a negative number for the diopter value. Use the value on your prescription if you have one. If not, they are so cheap you can order a few different diopter values and pick the one that works best.
There are a few limitations, they don't go in 1/4 increments (that I've seen) but only 1/2 increments. Plus you'll have the same values for both lenses and most people's eyes are a little different. But both my wife and I did this with the closest match and it's probably 95+% as clear as an actual "prescription" pair. And the price is unbelievable compared to what people are used to paying.
Yup, but is that a large part of the population? I don't know the answer. In our house we are 3 for 3 so far with my wife, son, and me all using the cheap glasses
Probably not the way to go though if you have a complicated eye issue. But we are all just near-sighted ranging from -1 to -2 diopters.
I still think you'd do better, as would your brain with an actual refraction to determine what your correct prescription is... Just saying.. Yes, prescription glasses are hugely expensive! (It is a racket/ripoff)! IMHO. They can set you back hundreds of dollars! So, I don't blame you for going that route... but... you'd probably see better with a proper prescription...
Jeff C: I got my first pair of presc glasses last year. I had had RK, then Lasik for my nearsightedness but aging was affecting that correction. So I spent $600 for glasses I cannot wear. I finally stuck them in my car to wear if night driving is ever an issue and use +3 for reading. Lesson learned!
You can buy readers on Amazon. After my cataract surgery I needed readers for small print in low light so I purchased a pair of bifocal readers. Reading power at bottom and clear on top so that I can wear them shopping without looking like Chuckie Schumer peeking over the top of glasses. The alternative was to put them on and take them off constantly which was annoying.
Walmart.com carries distance glasses and Lensmart. I just try to find options other than Amazon with all their stock from China. Heck, maybe most everything is from China😩
I’ve never looked, to be honest. I know you can order reading glasses (+1.0 etc) on Amazon. You can certainly get them at Costco. I always had to order mine special from the optometrist because my prescription was so high - I had to pay extra for custom thinner lenses and edge polishing, things like that. -8.0 glasses are normally like Coke bottle bottoms unless you’re willing to pay more for higher end lenses. My last pair cost over $900. I also had astigmatism corrections, which are part of a custom lens.
Pharmacists rewarded for numbers of "vaccines"/flu shots given only one of many unethical medical practices for many years. Covid precipitated the disclosure of most to the masses. Hope persists for a total cleansing!
AFAIK pharmacists aren’t rewarded per vaccine although it is a metric by which each store is judged by corporate. Corporate is who is making $ not individual pharmacists unless pharmacy managers are bonused based on vaccine volume which is entirely possible (I’m just a peon overnight RPh with no skin in the game.) Occasionally technicians are paid a per shot bonus (max I’ve seen is $3-$5) if they ask a patient at the register if they want a shot during certain promotions. The register also prompts almost every sale with ask pt if they need xyz vaccine. I’ve never once been tempted to do more than stab angrily at the prompt to make it go away but I’d say I see it at least 50 times a night. My employer does not have anyone at the store level making these sorts of phone calls to people but based on how they do other things they might hire a bunch of pre-licensed (international pending state license or graduate pending board license) “pharmacists” making these sorts of calls at a much lower than pharmacist salary and claiming to be calling from the store you shop at. I know this because they’ve called me and I’ve had to argue with them that I *work* at that store and know for a fact that they *do not* work at that store and I found it completely unethical they would claim to do so. So there’s that.
not only doctors, pharmacists but the NIH and CDC as well all on the take and getting paid by Pharma for each prescription and jab - the massive conflicts of interest need to be top priority now that he has reduced headcount aka bloat - next up - ban on Pharma advertising - so many benefits for that I can't count them all
I think the Pharma ads have opened people’s eyes. The long list of side-effects, and, at the end, “Don’t take this is you’re allergic to it”. Everyone I know has had their eyes opened because they NEVER used to read the paperwork that shows ALL of the things it could cause. Now they say “…..yeah I’ll take the meds that may cause a heart attack/stroke/diabetes/death for $100, Alex.”
I think the Harma ads have done wonders in waking people up.
but the conflicts of interest is a bigger problem - CDC that is supposed to be independent getting royalties on the very vaccines that are supposed to honestly tell people about - really - who wants to criticize their paymaster - and the same for hospitals, doctors, and the MSM that gets 70% of their revenue from Pharma - now we know why MSM was was pro vax - needs to go
My government job health insurance statements still contain boilerplate on the bottom advising people to get the latest “safe and effective“ Covid vaccines. I wonder if there is an email to which we can report this stuff to RFK?
I switched to Amazon pharmacy for the very reason: because there is no hectoring about injections involved. But they let you know when you are going to need a refill.
Joe Rogan did an amazing interview with Dr. Suzanne Humphries last week and asked her about the Shingrex vaccine. She responded, “Why would you get a vaccine for a virus that is already living dormant in your body?” Because it’s the same virus you caught when you had chicken pox as a kid.
My husband just went through open heart triple bypass surgery three weeks ago. While signing all the consent forms prior to his surgery, he objected to any blood transfusions. I was there, and to say the medical staff looked totally confused when they asked him why he was refusing to have another person’s blood. My husband stated the reason being he did not want any possibility of any blood coming from a person who had taken the Covid Shot(s). They looked utterly SHOCKED!!!! 😳
I did the same, last July, needing surgery for a fractured wrist. I wrote, on the consent form, “no blood products from anyone except my husband”—and told the PA “I would rather die than take vaxxed blood”. I will amend my earlier comment to include this.
My husband was jabbed and furious I would not (retired RN). I told him I would rather die than get a Covid vaccine or take tainted blood. He was adamant I write our children a letter exonerating him from any fault if I died from lack of treatment. I didn’t and I won’t.
I work as a nurse in the ER and use EPIC charting system for the hospital this month after 5 years it finally got rid of the front page “Covid vaccine update section”. It took a couple of weeks for it to go away completely. At first everyone was labeled “unknown” and then the tab just disappeared! Definitely not a coincidence. Now it’s buried deep inside people’s “epic charts”. Nurses I work with are finally talk about how awful the Covid jabs were and are and how their family members are so sick because of them etc. people are getting scared in the medical community about the reckoning coming!
Texas nurse: your comment brings to mind a question I had about the cost of the C-jab. I saw that RFKJr said the Vid pandemic is officially over. Does that mean the funds for ‘free’ c-jabs have been yanked? I think/hope having to pay for them will make most/some think twice.
I call it elderly abuse. The older we get, we become targeted.
My widowed mom is 81 and I recently had to protect her from several scams.
One just a couple days ago. She went into some make up store for a face wash and moisturizer. The Clinique rep was there and my mother came home with $450 worth of crap. My daughter saw her and asked what was wrong because my mother was about to cry. She looked in the bag of stuff and immediately took it all back and fortunately, for the Clinique rep, she was not there.
A few months ago some realtor came by offering to sell her house and convinced her to sign a contract! WTF! I called and reamed him out. She now lives with me.
man, I love you! I have such rage, outrage, I am beyond outraged. We need to get really really mad. We need to take it to them.... every chance we get. I have screamed and blocked insurance company personnel calling me asking personal questions. I asked them not to call me and they said they wouldn't. Well, we will see about that.
Conservatives and Christians have been way way way too nice for way too long. Now I trust nothing on TV , no drug made by big Pharma, Nothing on the radio, nothing in the newspapers, i trust nothing! Everything is a lie. We have become little bleating sheep going to the slaughter. I'm sorry if you won't stand up when you see the evil happening to little children (6 year old this last year got brain cancer ... I know she was jabbed.... from diagnosis to death 90 days) I never heard of a 6 year old dying from brain cancer in 90 days. If you will not stand up and get aggressive and shame and humiliate these people then you have laid down and let it happen. You are complicit. I pray God will take this rage from me. I ask Jesus to share his yoke with me. I'm on my knees and face constantly begging for mercy because my hatred for the liars and murderers is more than I can bear.
God Bless you for standing up and making one of them feel a little heat from hell for once.
There's a huge, neon green elephant in a very small room.....when will Trump admit that he killed, and is killing, hundreds of millions of people globally, as a result of his " Warp Speed"?!?
It could not have happened without him opening the gates of hell for the deceived masses who trustingly took the deadly injections. He is not ignorant of the outcome of what he set loose.
Trump and Kennedy families both have huge investments in big biotech and big pharma. Do you honestly think they will cut their own throats? Follow the money. They will only find another way to get around it. If people are to be held accountable, it needs to start with the puppets at the top, under the globalist's control.
There are none so dangerous as those who don't know that they are deceived. They will follow evil blindly, and even make excuses for it when it is right in front of them.
You make a point, but you are aware that the work on these disgusting jabs ( NOT vaccines), started long beforehand. Before the plandemic, the norm to develop any New vaccine was years. And years.
Trump had thousands of vials of Covid “vaccines” switched to normal saline and always said they were voluntary. It was Biden who rolled out the toxic ones and created mandates. If Trump didn’t roll those out when he did, our country would be no more. The left was willing to allow our economy and everything else to be flushed down the tubes.
Before I even read past the first, first intro paragraph--I want to share an encounter I had yesterday. A pleasantly-spoken CVS rep called at mid-day to speak with my husband, probably figuring that at age almost-76 he'd be at home in the day--not in his lab. I asked the purpose of the call? Well, there are several vaccines he's eligible for (cuz I doubt she said "for which he's eligible"). Sound of boiling blood--is that like a teakettle's noise just before it reaches the boil? I told her that I supposed she'd been getting paid a bonus for each jab she successfully conned people into taking. That I hoped she'd been putting that money into an interest-bearing account (not that such exist anymore). That she'd need it when the lawyers come after her. And closed urging her to "cover your backside. Also, we don't take any vaccines. Buh-bye!"
I had to undergo a major medical procedure yesterday, and I was asked many questions. One was did you take the covid vax. I said "Absolutely not." And got no push-back at all, I'm happy to say!
My fear is, what are they doing while you’re under?
Was JUST about to type this. That’s my biggest fear. If I reveal I had the very first shot but no boosters, will they then think it’s ok to give me boosters while I’m under because I already was permissive with the first? If I’m someone who never had it in the first place, will they think they are doing humanity a favor by giving it to me while I’m under?
It’s a good idea to always have someone there with you during any procedure or surgery and specifically request that they can’t do anything other than the procedure specified on the consent form without asking you or, if you’re under anesthesia, asking the person you've designated as your power of attorney for healthcare decisions. That person should stay in the waiting area until you’re on the postop floor. Also, you can draw a line through and put your initials on anything in the consent form that you do not consent to. Or add it to the form. Again, essential to have a patient advocate with you.
Yep! When I about 40, I had a shoulder surgery and thank God! I was still coherent as the person prepping me started putting the Betadine on my right shoulder. I said, hey Dude, it's my left shoulder to which he said, no Sir, it's most often the right. I said, check the chart. He did, rested the chart back on my stomach and proceeded to swab the left..... dodged that bullet.
I also woke up in the middle of that surgery and asked the Dr. how it was going. He said, Mr. Horton, you are not supposed to be awake, nodded at the Anesthesiologist and that's the last thing I remembered....
I kid you not!
Keep a sharp eye out folks or have someone, who cares, watch your back!
Later Jay
You're experience isn't atypical, sad to say. We've experienced similar and witnessed worse, resulting in death. At least the deaths were very old people - they seem to get "terminal care" quite often.
Yep. You nailed it. There is no respect for the Sanctity of Life in the medical field anymore.
I should say “not much respect” rather than “no respect.” There are, of course, many good medical practitioners out there who believe life is sacred. But if doctors and nurses are neither devout Christians nor devout Hindus (and some other religions), I’d be wary. Same with staffers.
Parents should be doing that when they’re giving birth crossing out vaccines given during the birthing process
It's so much worse than anyone wants to think. So bad that there's a need to pass a bill like this:
Massachusetts 2023 H.2146 / S.1333
An Act prohibiting nonconsensual intimate examinations of anesthetized or unconscious patients
Committee on Public Health, 9/20/2023
https://malegislature.gov/Events/Hearings/Detail/4682
(Timestamp is descending, testimony begins when 31:23 is remaining in hearing, runs about ten minutes)
Despite this public hearing and the outrage and disgust the legislators had during the hearing the bill failed and it is still legal in Massachusetts and most states for doctors to sexually assault their patients while they're anesthetized, without their consent.
That elite school thing Jeff wrote about how they think of the deplorable, stupid proles reaches everywhere, leaders and top officials are trained to think like this. Especially into the allopathic medical industry.
It's taught and called Utilitarian ethics. Greater good. The justification for these types of offenses and assaults is "you might say "no." On the record in that hearing recording link I provided above. Go in to get your tonsils removed, an appendectomy, leave walking funny, and not from the surgery. You might've said "no" if you knew. And they needed to be trained, practice. Your body served a greater good.
A sickening truth about the risks everyone faces when anesthetized in a hospital. And how the 'elite' think about everything they do, every violation of our individual rights. The collective is more important. Greater good.
https://www.atyourcervixmovie.com/
That's why I looked around until I found someone and somewhere (out of state) that would do a hip replacement out patient. I was not about to go into a kill zone for anything elective . Still won't
The general anesthesia is why so many seniors have Alzheimer’s.
I still believe that lowering of cholesterol via statin drugs is the true cause of dementia, because I witnessed it in my own mother.
I agree with you completely. I was speaking of those who do not take statins. And probably the statins and the anesthesia together, cause it to come on faster or to be more severe or both.
Can’t argue with that. My mom was also anesthetized multiple times- more than 2 dozen
Did the people who sent the hip replacement get the address wrong ?
I just received a strange looking package yesterday !!
Wow. I used to think most doctors got into it because they wanted to help people, or for the money and prestige. Now, my default take is they want to indulge their creepiness and psychopathic urge to hurt people. I realize there are a few good ones scattered amongst the scum.
Thing is, most do get into it for all the reasons you state. But one of the witnesses in the testimony link I provide above describes how the psychopathy is trained *into* them in medical school. "If you want to be a doctor this is what's involved. Deal with it or do something else for a living."
This is the beginning of the negotiation of morals and ethos. The price of entry. And once paid each subsequent negotiation gets easier and easier to rationalize. Until the morals and ethos they had when they first got into the field become a quaint memory, tsk-tsk'd as naiveté.
Those who were already psychopaths before they got into the field become Larry Nassar's. The Olympic doctor serial rapist now in prison. How many more still out there?
With RARE exception every licensed medical professional demonstrated how easy it is to get them to negotiate away their morals and ethos during the pandemic. Their actions are proof positive that nearly all value their license to practice medicine more than they value the lives of their patients. NEVER trust your health and life to the care of someone who cares more about their paycheck than your life. Their negotiations place more value on *their* lives, status, comforts and self-image than *your* life or the lives of your loved ones.
Never forget that nobody has as much concern or at stake for your life than you do. Self-preservation relies on self, not others. Assistance is great, sometimes necessary. But you make the most important decisions. And it's incumbent on you to do your own research about matters involving your own health and life. Blind trust is for suckers.
Somebody could make a fortune if they opened up a website which could personalize a person's health data (very importantly including all the information regarding what one can present for their UNIQUE situation/ experience) .
In other words...... what the "medical professionals" have no time to listen to !
( the fortune COULD be used to further advance this concept ) . If one had that in their heart to do so .
Kinda like naturapaths are supposed to do ..... though they do seem to charge a LOT .
Probably at least 90% are there strictly for the money. Greed.
Well, that's a new and disgusting revelation!
Yep. The looks on the faces of the committee members were pure disgust. Everybody in the hearing room was disgusted to learn. The hospitals had nobody there to testify against the bill. The practice is indefensible. The application of utilitarianism usually is. So indefensible that the elite public policymakers will only articulate justification for utilitarian-driven decisions behind closed doors, among friends, other "experts" who have to make the "difficult choices" unburdened by the emotional, unsophisticated sentiments of the proles. Who could never understand or appreciate what a "greater good" entails. And so, the bill was killed behind closed doors, without a public vote.
Medical rape is definitely a thing… always talk to your doctor before having any kind of medical procedure in-house… Tell them you do NOT want them examining you like that and make sure it’s on paper!
I never seen this in any of the hospitals I worked at. But I have been in contact with several women who have had this kind of thing done to them!
🔥🔥🔥
And the thing is, for most it's not even a purient, sexual gratification thing. Is why they don't feel anything wrong doing it. They have a professional detachment.
Supposedly that's supposed to make the victim feel better. There's actually a lot of people who do consent, for the collective, greater good. Like those who volunteer for drug trials.
But apparently not enough volunteer. So they conscript the unknowing, the trusting, the anesthetized. Who wants to be conscripted into "intimate examinations?" A room full of trainees staring deep inside your fully exposed privates under a spotlight while you're out for an appendectomy, an unwitting model for aspiring gynecologists.
But it's okay, it's medical, professional, no biggie!
And the older you are, the more crucial it becomes to have a clear-headed authorized agent with you. Aging uselesss eaters are still targets of a certain sector of the medico-pharma collaborative.
these people don't do informed consent anymore and they surely do not care what your personal convictions are. I will never go again to a hospital or for any surgery at all. My trust for the entire healthcare industry is zero and cannot be repaired.
I’m with you, Deborah. Thanks.
Amen and I have worked in healthcare (Diagnostic imaging now) for over 30 years.
We are on our own. It is up to us to research, listen to good doctors we can trust (that just make sense) like Dr Ken D Berry and Dr Shawn Baker (former USAF Orthopedic Surgeon, veteran (possibly combat?)
Hospital emergency rooms are for emergencies, not your strep throat or fever in the middle of the night. That's what urgent care is for, and if you have a family doctor, you call and get in as a sick patient in the morning. I have seen too many cases of people getting nosocomial infections that could kill them after minor and major surgeries or ER visits. Mostly antibiotic resistant bacteria like MRSA.
I stay away from the hospital if possible. I'll go for broken bones or stitches maybe, but not if I can help it!
Obviously.
So what's your advice for the great many of us who are not so fortunate as to have anyone?
And after the murderous covid coup, what makes you think the white coats would actually follow the rules in the first place?
Yes. This. Have someone there at all times. Important: Make absolutely sure you have the correct heathcare directive completed (in the state where procedures are performed). See an attorney if needed. Hospitals are notorious for ignoring these documents, and if you go to court, the forms need to be executed perfectly, and on file wherever you go.
This should help if you need to go to a hospital. It is a plan with a how-to video.
https://protocolkills.substack.com/p/the-caregiver-and-consent-document
Question: How do the hospitals receive these forms and requests? Are they accepting of it or will it cause them to be less than cordial? I will be having knee replacement and don’t trust doctors of hospitals these days. I don’t want someone mad at me going in.
I just found the info and the video explains it.
What about those little electronic screens you sign but don’t know you’re actually signing what’s on the computer screen?
Julie, will they allow you in the operating room? I don’t think so. Even if they did, it would take one second to slip in that needle and push. Don’t blink!
In addition to crossing out anything you disagree/ don't consent to, please write in "no biologics including blood transfusions." Donate your own blood ahead of elective procedure. Biologics are all those things "created" in a lab & foreign to our biology.
May you all be well 🙏🙏🙏
Juju - We used to do a lot of hiking in Scotland but stopped going during covid because we refused to take the jabs. Even after the insanity of the covid passports was sort of gone, I had fears of breaking an ankle or something and being denied medical care because of no jabs.
Now I don’t go because they’ve become so authoritarian and I’m afraid it’s my mouth that might land me in trouble. Yeaaaaaa for independent thinking and free speech loving Americans (well, those of us on the right, anyway.)
Yes, what has happened to our Motherlands......??? Just pitiful. I know there have to be many who are independent thinkers and care for their freedoms and Western European heritage. The media there seems to portray them as a bunch of toothless, bigoted clots with a strong Neanderthal lineage -what an utter load of crap!!!
Later Jay
I know - so disheartening. I will say that we have some long time English friends (friendship of over 30 years) who are conservative but with whom I had an email exchange about Elon Musk. They were not happy that Musk was “interfering” by commenting on the Muslim issue as “it was causing problems.” I asked them just who it was they thought should control who is allowed to speak and what is allowed to be said.
But I don’t think they truly get that today it’s Elon but tomorrow the government (or the mob) can come after them too. I am thankful every day for our First Amendment and for our occasional orneriness as Americans.
Considering that they are after the money, it would be impossible of them to hide the fact if they did give it to you. I have thought about that scenario too… I would put it into writing what and what not they could do during the procedure.
From what I've read, the pre-op docs one has to sign are SO vague, they could pretty much do whatever they wanted and be able to justify it via your signature. My next thought is, if the pre-op docs are so vague, intentionally, so as to be able to take advantage, what compels them to be honest in the post-op docs? Of course......how many patients actually read those? Would most even know how to obtain them?
If your surgeon ever shoves a consent form at you that includes the language “… and all related/indicated procedures” GET OUT OF THERE IMMEDIATELY.
When I next sign the form for consent to treat I will handwrite no vaccines or injections over my signature. Because there is some vague consent to therapies in that form.
My Dad passed away in Sept. he had a lot of issues that would lead one to believe it was the jab. He was NOT jabbed and I had better never find out that on one of his hospital stays he was given it. My BP could not handle that! And I don’t want to go to prison. 😖
I'm so sorry for your loss. Dad's are very special. Although I have heard of hospitals and doctors giving the bioweapon jab without consent, it is very possible his symptoms were from shedding. I personally know 3 people who were not jabbed, but we're in very close contact soon after those who were. All were in early 2021...Pulmonary embolism, glioblastoma, and a brain bleed. One of the three is still with us.
Thank you. He didn’t get out and about much. Only Drs 🥴 he had a stroke 10 years ago and his mobility was poor. He preferred being home. He had sepsis and riddled with cancer. We didn’t know until his final 2 months.
Write NO VACCINES OR BIOLOGICS on all paperwork and cross out and initial where to word "biologic " is ( cause it refers to vaccines as well)
Always read everything at the hospital. Arguing with them is acceptable. I am
convinced that my husband was jabbed in 2021 when he was in the hospital but I was not permitted anywhere near him. NO VISITORS PERMITTED! I am his designated Health Care Surrogate. I called the nursing station and gave them explicit orders regarding vaccines/treatments. But he came home a week later and has suffered all sorts of “mystery ailments” since then. Vertigo. Neuropathy. Loss of Balance. We got his hospital notes but I’m convinced they’ve been falsified by omission. He just got a hip replacement last week and we gave his surgeon explicit instructions prior to the procedure. Thankfully, he’s a Conservative and not tied to a big medical association. So we trust him a bit more.
If you want a definite answer, I've read in several places that there is a blood test that can determine if a person ever had the jab, even. vs. having been exposed to covid the normal way.
There's the need to read those post-op notes.
I think I'm going to require a contract signature before my next surgery stating no vaccines or other type injections will be administered and, if found that it was done, each party agrees to pay $1 million each. They might not sign it, but they will know I am serious about ruthlessly suing should they penetrate my jab virginity...
They won’t do your surgery. We had a patient request that and the provider wouldn’t sign so they cancelled it. I do anesthesia and have for 15 years. No one has ever even mentioned jabbing someone under anesthesia. It’s talk like this that makes people think you’re nuts
Sorry, but it's only one tiny step from what happened with COVID jabs and how hospitals disregarded patient directives and took actions that killed people to inject that poison.
Did you not pay attention to the COVID hospital protocols, sheriffs removing patient's family, putting people on vents despite directives preventing it, defying court orders to allow administering of Ivermectin? Where where you when all that happened?
I explicitly told the nurses three times in two shifts to NOT inject anything in my mother that wasn't specifically related to her condition directly related to the hospital stay. "But we give everyone this. It's just a precaution." And my siblings had to fight them off for the additional three days. 24x7 attention to avoid following THEIR protocols.
YOU might never do such a thing. Your team of anesthesia docs and those who conduct the surgeries you support might not. But you cannot make that claim and say I sound nuts making statements like that any longer when it comes to how a hospital's staff treats patients when they cannot respond. The facts are, it happened and could still happen.
Trust, once broken, is rarely restored. Deal with it.
I work in the hospital. I advocated for measures such as high dose vitamin c and d. If you want to look like a kooky conspiracy theorist, go for it. I’m unjabbed and I’ll tell you, I’ve done this for 15 years and never seen anyone even mention it, nor would I let anyone touch my patient without their consent.
Peace!
I missed your point until this reply. It finally dawned on me that I live by the advice you're providing every day, using a more practical method of addressing concerns particularly when I'm not sure if others agree with me.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. I can be thick headed on items I consider based on principles. It can take me a while to see the message.
I just want you to know not all fell for it and I would NEVER allow someone to inject a patient of mine. Please know not every person fell for it. Especially small town facilities
When I hear of someone going to the doc or the hospital, my prayer is no harm will come to them when they are seeking information.
My first thought as well. They've been known to take it upon themselves to poison their patients.
And if they’re ticked off you aren’t jabbed or really ticked off because they did and you didn’t, you never know what they will do.
Much more often than you think!
Someone else here said to make sure you write no vaccines and initial it on that paper. You have to sign for going under anesthesia. And then you tell the anesthesiologist when he or she comes to visit you as well. They're the same ones who ask you if you want a blood transfusion should you need one.
Never go under anesthesia. The general anesthesia causes Alzheimer’s.
Every surgery can be done under acupuncture and local anesthesia
Think about your next colonoscopy…😳😳
Nothing. I do anesthesia and I’ve never even heard anyone bring up jabbing someone while they’re sleeping. This is what makes people peg us all as nuts
I went for my yearly physical a few months ago and at one point my doctor said, “You haven’t had a Covid vaccination…you don’t want that…. riiight…?” like he already knew the answer. We’ve never talked politics but I get the impression he’s pretty based. He clearly indicated on prior visits how stupid he thought the whole mask thing was
I've finally gotten the attention of the supervised living place where my nephew resides. Now, the annual call is, "you don't want Ben to get the flu shot, right?" Big change from when they harassed me constantly to get him the covid shot. I told them often and loudly just how I felt about the ridiculous masks and limited visits they permitted the residents. And yes, I'm still bitter.
My response at my last physical: "Can we not do any of that??" 😄
I told my doctor the first time I went back after the Covid scam that I wouldn’t be taking any vaxxes ever, no mammograms and no colonoscopies and she didn’t need to ask me again. I said I’ll get my weight, heart and lung auscultation and lab work but that’s it. She agreed.
Same here. Will never get another mammogram or colonoscopy. My doctor doesn’t argue with me anymore about it. He also knows not to even ask me about flu vaccines or COVID jab. He doesn’t necessarily agree but at least he doesn’t bring it up.
Hubby had several surgeries and each time before allowing me back with him they asked if he was being abused at home, he's 6'+, splits wood all day long, 63, former Marine, and sane but no one ever asked me if I was being abused, <5'5", 63, overweight and crabby. 🤷🏼♀️ Never vaxxd.🎉🎉
"Are you being abused at home?"
"No, I am being abused right now. By a gaslighter."
😂
I think it's an insurance or hospital credentialing requirement for them to ask these things. Problem is that (1) lots of abused persons never consider the abusive behavior as "abuse." "Abuse" is a word most people don't think of in regard to themselves, even if they're being pushed, shoved, controlled, etc. (2) who's going to admit it in front of their spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend.
Perhaps well-intentioned but definitely poorly executed.
Copernicus, yes. It's often CMS mandated/ credentialling/ reimbursement related & DATA collection. It's mind boggling the amount of information there is about us flying around on the internet!
Also they ask if you’re depressed.
I had a surgery on my hand. Before sedation, I was asked by the nurse if I have fallen. I told her I slipped and fell a couple days before, why? She said we need to know if you are at risk. After my surgery and I was awake they had me WALK unattended to our waiting car!!
At risk for what? Another fall? More depression? Ugh.
One of my relatives was recently in hospital and needed care coordination. Part of the intake was a CMS-mandated question asking if they ever felt lonely even when around family and friends? What?
Great question. Not something that needs (1) asked without immediate follow-up depending on answer (2) asked without MEANINGFUL follow-up and not just meds and (3) to be enshrined in an EMR. Oh, and (4) may or may not be appropriate to ask IN FRONT OF said family.
RJ, you’re a hoot. Made me laugh out loud! 😂
Do you live in washington?
Too funny!
I’m headed to Cleveland Clinic in early May and am curious about what questions they will ask me. Last time I was there was late 2022 and the covid nonsense was still happening.
Back then I had to stay overnight in an observation unit and the nurse kept insisting I had to have a covid test. This was AFTER I already had my procedure! I kept telling him no, and finally I said “if you make me have that I will leave right now.” This was around midnight. I also informed him that on the facility website that it stated a test was not required. He finally gave up. So stupid.
Wanted that bonus payment for taking care of a Covid patient. Also could have then shuttled you off to $$$ ICU and the big money. The horror! I wonder how many people they “got” this way?
so very true, those commie Demonrats.
I had a similar situation in our hospital ER. I went in for a possible heart attack, but their main mission was to test me for covid. This was in 2023! I kept saying no to the test, they sent in the "bigger guns", finally I said, "If you don't accept my NO, I am getting out of this bed right now and leaving". Within 20 minutes I was "released" after being there for 7 hours for heart tests, and supposedly, there was now nothing wrong with me, everything was just fine. They did not even give me copies of my blood tests/ or anything except four pages of information on covid. That fiasco was billed to medicare for over $6K (which they paid a minuscule fraction , the rest written off.) And you wonder why health care is in such a mess! Go Bobby!!
Going to put RFK in my regular morning prayers. Go, RFK!
Wow; coercion and harassment instead of informed consent.
it's the new normal and if we lay down for it it's going to get worse.
What they do to parents of children around "shot schedule" is deplorable! Talk about harassment.
Cleveland Clinic did an internal study and as a result they do not recommend shots for their employees. I’d be wary but they know the risks.
So disrespectful and unprofessional! Nothing like hitting you when you are already down. Grrrr!
And they don't care. They are "just following orders"...
no. criminal.
Make sure to note, in your own hand-writing, with your own signature, "No mRNA products to be administered to me"
Yes, when you check in, don’t sign on the electronic pad after scrolling through pages of fine print giving them all kinds of broad permisssions. Tell them you can’t read the electronic version and to print it all out on paper. Then you can cross-out and write-in as you please, initialing each change you make, before you put your signature on it. Then have them make a copy “for my records.”
That’s even better! Many thanks to you.
Exactly!!! 💯 do the paper copies
IMHO, it's not enough to just cross things out and sign it. Most healthcare professionals don't actually read it and carry the consciousness that they are in charge and have the power to overturn your instructions and make choices for you because they know better. This is where anticipating the weak link comes in. It would be best to loudly and vocally make sure EVERYONE knows that you are not to be injected with any vaccine or mrna injection at any time, to hand out copies of your highlighted instructions to everyone who has the ability to inject you with anything, and to make sure that they understand that your health advocate and lawyer are physically in the hospital or on standby to make sure your instructions are followed, or else. Because once you get injected - "Oh, sorry, we missed that" - or learn they injected you while you were under anyway, then it cannot be undone. This happened to someone I know. She suspected she was given the vax at a routine doctor's visit, even though she said she didn't want one. Later on the doctor refused to release a copy of her medical file.
Refusing to release medical records to the patient sounds like grounds for lawsuit to me!!
Yeah, but the defense attorney will say, "Prove it". You can be sure that there will be no direct link of causation, and no record anywhere in the doc's files.
Your medical records belong to you, not the doctor. They must give you a copy.
Very wise, thank you @Horizons. My wife has a procedure coming up in the next couple months and we are going to do what you suggested.
Great idea!!
Yes and give yourself plenty of time to go through all the documents they want you to sign. Think of how many people just blindly sign them without reading what they’ve agreed to and who all has access to your electronic chart??
Can they send these documents out ahead of time so patients don't have to sign them at the time of admission, when they have more time and brain band-width to read/edit the documents?
Excellent advice.
Not just that, no blood transfusions. Donate your own blood ahead of planned procedure. Not always possible though.
Here is a company leading the grassroots effort to keep at least part of the blood supply clean for those who donate and those who need a blood donation https://safeblood.com/
Hannah, thank you for this resource.
Janice~wishing you the best for the upcoming visit to Cleveland Clinic. 🙏Prayers that the Lord’s favor & blessing is on you in every way❤️
Thank you!
See if they have patient advocates, and if not look up an independent patient advocate association, and get your own even if you have to pay for it
Graith Care out of Texas but they have advocates everywhere!
Saying prayers for you Janice.
Thank you so much for the prayers! This trip will be adding a doctor to my already long list!
I’ve just started a book by a cardiologist named William Davis called “Undoctored”. Fascinating reading and his YouTube channel is packed with knowledge. His concern and kindness shine through clearly and he breaks down concepts clearly and respectfully. I encourage you to pick up a copy and find out just how many of those doctors you really need! 🥰🙏🏻✝️
Oooo- I need to look that book up. I’ve read his other two books on gut health.
Amen! May the Lord Jesus cover you w His protection, Janice, and provide Godly medical care workers to be His hands. 🙏🏼
Tell them you are allergic to Remdesivir. Make them chart it.
You do know it has a new name...
Verklury
VEKLURY
That’s what dribbles out of Fauci’s mouth when he eats linguine marinara
😂
Not really a “new” name. Veklury is the brand name for the drug remdesivir.
Considering the games they are playing, it’s good to know both, for sure!
Oh? What is it now?
All you have to do, Janice, is quote their own Cleveland clinic study! The conversation will end at that!
Ah yes, I will keep that in mind. As bad as it was up there though, it was not nearly as insane as the Mayo Clinic in 2021.
Were you down here at the FL site? Not that it matters, the whole thing is a perfect reflection of their Brookings Institution board members: Elitist, Democrat, smarmy, and woke.
Yes. At one point there was a guy walking through the lobby hawking the COVID shot, saying it was his last one. I made the mistake of ending up on the elevator with him and he asked me if I wanted it. I said no thank you. There were several other maddening encounters. But the interventional radiologist probably saved my life by coiling an AVM in my brain. So that’s worth something I guess!
As for me having seen so many doctors, my GP is a wonderful Christian man who is holistic in approach and he takes good care of me. I just have abnormal issues that can’t be helped without physical intervention if they even know what to do for me! I’ve been called an “anomaly” and “rare” and “unusual.” Fun times. To God be the glory!
Janice, from your last sentence, sounds like you are a believer in Jesus. That's the only thing that matters in the end! prying for you.
Absolutely. I figure He puts people in my path for His purposes. Eight hospital systems and somewhere around 60 doctors in the last 6 years.
Glory to God in the highest!
No kidding! I worked in Neurosurgery! Was it Dave Miller (I hope)?
At the end of my 16 years there, I did a long-term float in Employee Health. My job was to catch up the site on N95 fit testing and give flu shots. This was 2021, so we were still getting sweated by the Covid jab brownshirts. That declination process would have made Torquemada blush. I didn’t give the Covid jabs but I had a few heart-to-hearts with people that were conflicted on the matter.
Dr. Huynh.
I never got to know that one, but I am grateful for the life they saved that day! 🥰🙏🏻🥰
He was very nice and competent. He is in radiology.
you forgot Rockefeller owned.
My husband goes there every year. They never mention the c shot.
But, when he had a procedure there, he was required to be swabbed for c the day before the procedure. Cleansing his nose with diluted betadyne prior to swab works. 😀
Surely they are not still doing those tests now. 😖
Only if you have symptoms.
the answer to that question is: I've had every vaccine I need. thanks for asking
Brilliant!
I did too, last March! I had emergency surgery (in Florida) and was asked that also, I replied the same, and got no push back either. When I was asked to sign the "life saving blood transfusion' form, I asked, yes, if I can have "unvaccinated blood". Sorry, no can do! Because it was "emergency" and not scheduled, if you need it, you're going to get whatever the have on hand. They said if I wanted unvaccinated blood, I would have to have collect my own BEFORE the surgery...so if you are going in for a scheduled procedure, be sure to do so you can remain a "pureblood" 🙂👍
We were told they “only use unvaxxd” blood 🙄 My Mom was so glad - I’m like and you believe that?? Probably not in this blue HH state. They obviously must hear it a lot.
HH blue state, I wouldn't believe that for a minute either! My husband was in a hospital on Cape Cod for 3 weeks in 2022 for a blood infection. They were trying to find a rehab facility in MA (we live in FL), The HC advocate said none will take him "because he's not vaccinated", finally, he was able to get PT at a hotel,until well enough to travel home. I often wonder if they did inject him with the "vaxx"in MA...he ended up at a rehab facility in FL for 2 weeks, got C-diff there (resistance was low, due anti-biotics) then died from an acute gastrointestional bleed a week after his release... I got all hospitals & rehab records, I did not see anywhere if he had been "vaccinated", but medical facilities wouldn't lie...right?🤨
My condolences on the loss of your husband, Karen. May he rest in peace and may perpetual light shine upon him.
Karen, I'm very sorry to hear about your husbands illness & your loss. Unfortunately, it is quite common for people to get C-diff after being on antibiotics. Probiotics given concurrently & for at least 2 weeks following can sometimes be a proactive approach. Eating fermented foods is probably even better.
Yeah - they are not averse to lying right? If they can deliberately continue a vax practice that clearly harms /kills, then lying about other practices is second nature.
I have investigated this, and while I may have missed some small outifits, virtually all major outfits do not separate blood. If they exist, I don't know where, and believe me, I have looked. Don't put yourself in a position you may need an emergency transfusion.
There is a company that only receives and gives pure blood. I think the name is pure blood but it’s been awhile since I checked in to it. Because I had Covid once and I got the nose swab once I was rejected to give or receive blood with that company.
Thanks, Donna. I was not aware that such places existed. I searched and I found that the one you were suggesting is Safe Blood and it is listed with 3 others on this website: https://deeprootsathome.com/4-safe-blood-banks-if-you-reject-red-cross-blood-transfusions/
Thank you . Still can't see anywhere to donate except in a direct "in the name of" situation where someone locally needs blood. Shows just how thoroughly captured the medical establishment is, though I already knew that after dealing with my wife's cancer outside of it. Maybe one day, but there is so much that needs to be undone . I sent it out to all of the unjabbed people I know. Thanks again.
Disgusting lie from a disgusting person.
I hate to say this but, then again, ..... I'm ready to die. I would die before going to a hospital or having a procedure now post covid. I went to the gym today for the first time since 2021. They require you now to wipe down your equipment before and after use and 6 feet distancing.
I will be going at 5 a.m. when they open so there is no one there. I cannot believe this is still going on.
Ok, I'm off the internet for today. I have cut out all internet except Jeff Childers blog. That and music and curated older black and white movies. All of the rest is CIA infiltrated trash.
It's so lonely now out here.
I wish for each of you blessings and love overflowing in this Easter season.
That's why stopped giving blood after more than 50 years. Unless and until The Red Commies start separating jabbed and pureblood, I 'll never donate again.
I stopped donating to the Red Cross when I discovered they were selling my blood. Then I read about their no action in Haiti with the millions given to them because of Hillary.
Thanks— And I certainly hope your ‘procedure’ went swimmingly! I do recall that, summer of ‘21, when I had damaged my back and was frequently visiting the medical office, each time being asked if I’d taken the vax, one intake nurse replied, “But I respect your choice”—which he needn’t have said. And I have always wondered if he was tacitly expressing regret.
One regulatory agency or another makes us ask our patients as part of the admission process if they’ve “completed” their Covid vaccine regimen (as if that was ever intended to be possible). I always congratulate the ones who have declined, which is as joyous an occasion for me as it is unfortunately rare.
THEIR Covid vaccine regimen. What a loaded word.
"Yes, Doc. I have completed MY Covid vaccine regimen, for a total of zero Covid vaccinations."
That’s my kind of vaccine. I tell the ones that speak up that I won’t even have a flu shot.
I was asked prior to cataract surgery. I’m not sure if it’s precautionary or an artifact from the olden days. No push back just like you. It made me chuckle since I thought they were tracking like everything else…
My young eye dr, optomilogist?, was masked at my last appt two years ago. I asked him why. He said there's no air flow in the exam room. I should have walked out knowing he was that stupid!
You might have asked him why his skin wasn't blue, as a result of that "no airflow" situation .... (:>)
The one and only timer we saw an oncologist before we wisely addressed her breast cancer holistically, he was double masked. Heard about people like that, but he was the only one ever saw.
LOL!
My doctor told me that Medicare makes them ask this question in order to get paid for your care
Someone needs to get that info to Secretary Kennedy so he can ensure those idiot questions are not asked any more.
Like signing a DNR to get an ingrown toenail removed??
Or waking up with an above-the-knee amputation for said toenail.
Job done.
🤣🤣🤣
I've read about a lot of eye clotting issues with this jab, so they might want to know for that reason.
Watch out. They’re vaccinating people while they are under and not telling them. This seems illegal. One person only found out when they checked their records. It’s crazy, are we still talking about a virus?
To some medical perfeshunals, life itself is a virus. Treatable only with massive doss of someone else's money.
great news! Wishing you a safe and healthy recovery!!!!
i wonder if they take the opportunity while you're under anesthesia to get you caught up on your shots?
Good luck!
My Dr hasn’t said a word about the Covid shots in a couple of years but still pushes flu and pneumonia
I pulled up to the window at CVS to pick up meds for my girlfriend whose car I was driving. Before asking her name, he asked if we were up to date on our vaccines! She asked why he wanted to know... "so I can get you those and add the info in your record..." She replied that we were there to pick up her medications. He asked again after she paid, "Can I let you know what your record shows? You've not had four of the vaccines listed for someone of your advanced age!" Well, she is 88, So... "Buddy, you're here at a drive through window, providing prescriptions I require for my heart. That's all. You can take those vaccines, and I use the term "vaccines " very loosely... and you can shove them where the sun don't shine!"
"Well, I have heard that exact response nearly every time I've asked..."
CVS ... the Criminal Vaccine Society store.
I think Walgreens is equally bad.
I’m sure the poor guy is being required by CVS to ask every customer the same question, and being recorded as well. I feel bad for young people in such jobs these days. But the likelihood is he never had parents who taught him to find work that matched his moral code and value system, if he was even taught any kind of moral code. I quit several jobs during my career for that reason, including my final one—airline purser—when things went sideways in 2020.
We have a real problem in this country with undisclosed conflicts of interest. These kickbacks are so common that many people consider them just a normal business practice rather than what they actually are, petty corruption.
Add to that the disingenuousness of modern marketing, e.g. calling you pretending it's out of concern for your health rather than the real motivator, them making money. Dishonesty is everywhere in our system, it was normalized after World War 2 as media-pushed "judeo-christianity" replaced historic Christianity in business ethics. The golden rule went out the window. Concern for the well-being of others morphed into "if you are so stupid you fall for my scam then that's on you".
I use to see the eye doctor once a year after getting constant hounding "reminders" about the importance of eye health. They'd run all kinds of tests, never find anything wrong, then make a slight tweak in my eyeglass prescription (that made no difference in vision). They'd then bill the insurance company for some absurd amount and hit me for a hundred or two in deductibles. What a racket. After several years of this I got fed up.
Now I just buy -1 diopter eyeglasses on Amazon for $15 and they work great, I only need them for driving. Those reminders from the eye doctor go right in the trash. They are just a level above an Indian call center scam, as is much of the medical industry.
Do not understand the meaning of your statement “judeo-Christianity” replaced historic Christianity in business ethics. Is this a slur on Jewish business persons? If so, that statement is malicious unadvised. My experiences, as a Gentile dealing with genuinely devout G-d fearing Jewish business persons, have only been equitable. Our combined application of moral obedience to scripture (standing on a wall made with a plumbline with a plumbline in your hand) inserts G-D’s wisdom into the equation and guarantees fairness.
I agree. It seems that hatred of anything ‘Jewish’ has once again taken hold of so-called ‘Christians’ and the so-called ‘church’. The ‘church’ (not in Scripture, anywhere (it is the ‘ecclesia’) seems to have decided to hate the very people group who gave us Yeshua. And we know where that hatred comes from. And it isn’t God.
It's not a hatred of "anything Jewish" (well maybe it is for some people but there's all sorts of nuts out there) but a recognition that we are Christians first and foremost. We follow Christ alone, and those who don't accept Him as Lord and Savior will not be saved. I know people find this controversial but it's basic Christian teaching for two millennia as Jesus Himself said it.
There is no such thing as "judeo-christianity", it's just Christianity. People who practice Judaism and do not accept Christ are not redeemed. They are lost. We should pray for them, treat them kindly, and share the gospel with them, not pretend we are some sort of nebulous common religion and they get a free pass to salvation. And we should absolutely not be following their advice on *anything* theology or morality related. Just as we wouldn't from a Muslim or Hindu. We are Christians, but often seem to forget that.
(Side note in that this is why I get so annoyed at Christians lapping up Ben Shapiro's lecturing on morality, and his arrogance in thinking he has any say in telling Christians how to behave. Would you accept that from an imam or a shaman?)
I put a long post below describing where this stuff originated and at it's core is a rejection of the centrality of Christ. But there is no other way. This other stuff is meant to mislead people, call it judeo-christianity, christlamism, new age nonsense, or whatever, but it's all the same. It's message is that there are many paths to salvation, and Christ is one of many ways.
I call it judeo-christianity as that's how it's most commonly known and it has pervaded many churches, it's not to single out Judaism. It's moral relativism rather than New Testament biblical truth. But to be clear, Talmudic Judaism without Christ is a false religion. If you disagree with that you have a problem with the New Testament, not me.
You are “right on”.
Judeo-christianity is a phony media-created term that honors neither Judaism or Christianity. It's a mish-mash of feel good platitudes, not a true ethical system determined by God's Word.
There is no such thing as judeo-christianity, you know that and I know that. I wouldn't be welcome to preach Christ's gospel in your synagogue, nor should I be. Nor should Talmudic Judaism be welcome in a Christian church. The two belief systems are incompatible.
So let's not pretend we are all just one big religious blob that believe the same thing, we don't. Judeo-christianity was invented to water down the beliefs of the dominant religion in the US, which is Christianity (70% of the population vs. 2% Jewish). It was invented to undermine the primary tenant of the Christian faith, i.e. Christ's words. "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one shall come to the Father except through me".
The idea of judeo-christianity advanced moral relativism in a dominant Christian nation. It advanced the notion that all roads lead to heaven provided one considers themselves a "good person". Morality was inverted from pleasing to God to pleasing oneself. The idea that one must live a life following Christ and of holiness (that is, set apart) morphed into if it feels good do it. So your religion is no different than mine after all since we are all "judeo-christians".
If you want to take it as a slur that's your prerogative. But think about this, you would never in your life call yourself a "judeo-christian", that I'm certain of. You would consider it demeaning and insulting (righty so by the way). You probably also think Christians are damned as non-believers. So let's not get to far up on our high horse about bigotry and making slurs.
Last off, I know there are many (primarily Orthodox) Jews who attempt to live humble lives pleasing to God in obedience to Mosaic Law. I have nothing but respect for these people. But that's not every non-Christian, or even every Jew, it's a tiny minority. But you are you one who tried to conflate my use of the "Christianity" (i.e. one who sincerely follows Christ) with being a gentile and paint with broad strokes. You compared the behavior of devout Jews to "gentiles". I never used that word, you did. You were the one who tried to make this about ethnicity, not me.
I attend a Messianic Synagogue that attempts to serve G-d like the 1st century Believers, who were at the beginning, all Jews.
You would be welcome. Also, I would not think anybody was damned—-in the Bible book of Jude it is written that Gabriel, when disputing with satan over the body of Moses would not bring an accusation but said the Lord rebuke you. My intention is to not slander anyone. The chief angel would not even slander satan. That’s G-D’s territory.
ps. I come from the Jesus Movement of the 60-70’s and have witnessed Jew and Gentle becoming the biblical “one new man”. It is a process that will be completed rapidly at the end times when “all Israel will be saved”.
Enough from me for now but please forgive me if I have inadvertently offended you. (No forgiveness is necessary for the Word).
My brother, I made a really bad assumption that you practiced Judaism (i.e. were a non-Christian) based on the language you used. Huge mistake on my part and apologies.
If anyone has earned the right to be called a Judeo-Christian it is you. My writing above was not at all about Messianic Jews, but a contrived religion that lumps Talmudic Judaism and Christianity together as some sort of religious blob (hence the reason I didn't capitalize judeo-christianity). That's what I was going on about, as it really was the start of the "all roads lead to heaven" and moral relativism that took off after World War 2 (intentionally I believe). Timeline searches of the term in media show it was unheard of prior to WW2 and took off in the 1950's. It was promoted.
I think you are the first Messianic Jew I've ever traded comments with so please forgive my erroneous assumption. I learned something today and thank you for it.
Honest question: can you explain why God is spelled as G-d or g-d? I have only ever seen that among Jews.
In order to honor the Name, it is not completely spelled out in the event the carrying document is destroyed. That is my understanding. Honestly I was annoyed by this practice for a while, thinking it was extra Biblical. I needed to get over it to be in unity with the congregation leadership and not offend. It is not prohibited by scripture and it
is respectful to others that may get offended. Thanks for asking.
A.M.E.N. Thank for your bravery and well-written comment. I couldn't agree more.
Very interesting thread here. I have evolved on this hyphenated construct of Judeo-Christian, which seemed to emerge in the early 90s, but I could be wrong. I remember Pat Buchanan offering it up. It seemed harmless and innocent enough, but now I think it is a way to dilute Christianity, and also to isolate Muslims, so I no longer use it.
Many of my Christian evangelical friends are deep into this hyphenated construct. But they also follow the Schofield Bible, and have some very questionable notions about the end times IMO.
Christianity should be teaching us that the old Testament is strictly historic. From my reading, God eventually got tired of the Jews turning away from him and sinning, and thus, through JC, discarded the blood line covenant and sent his only begotten son, to create a new covenant for ALL to be a part of. No longer was it a matter of lineage or DNA. Rather, the only requirement is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
So in that sense, there is no present day connection between Judaism and Christianity day. Thus, it is wrong to hyphenate and conflate the two. They are two entirely distinct faiths
But I am sure people out there may disagree with this view. I am open to hear thoughts, but the idea that there’s a blurry line between Judaism and Christianity doesn’t make any sense to me.
It's something I unquestioningly accepted for a long time. I think I first heard it used in the expression "judeo-christian morality" which I took as a harmless way of describing the idea we follow morality taught in the Bible.
But I began to notice it was being more widely used as describing a religious movement "judeo-christianity" particularly in the media but also in the Scofield Dispensationalist sects (of which I once was one but no longer am). It made me wonder why we were using the same language as the overtly non-Christian secular media. It's obvious the media has an agenda to subvert Church authority and influence, and aren't our friends. So why are we using their language?
I realized that many Christians (particularly Dispensationalists) view those who follow Judaism as something like "almost-Christians". They only believe the first 2/3rds of the Bible while we believe the whole thing. But that completely ignores the Talmud which was written after the Resurrection. Most Jews view the Talmud equal to the Torah (the OT), many even hold it as even more influential. And the Talmud is a hyper-legalistic book that is completely at odds with Christianity. Among other things, it's the rabbinical interpretation of Mosaic Law. When you hear a Jewish person having all sorts of little tricks used to evade Mosaic Law prohibitions, that's the Talmud talking.
But as Christians, we believe Christ's death and Resurrection ended the old covenant once and for all. The Law (i.e. the Torah) showed us that no man can meet God's perfect standard thus the only answer is the vicarious atonement of Christ. "All men have fallen short of the glory of God" as Paul wrote. So the Old Covenant was meant to lead us to Christ, not save us. Christ is the New Covenant, the Old Covenant is finished.
But most Jews didn't accept Christ and continued to try and earn salvation through the Law. However, the Temple being destroyed in AD 70 (as Christ prophesied) ended the Jewish sacrificial system that was used for atonement. So Judaism went further off the rails with hyper-legalism and loopholes codified in the Talmud. It was a desperate attempt to keep a now obsolete (rendered such by the New Covenant) and impossible (with the Temple destroyed) system functioning, and hence became more and more disconnected from the OT.
So now we have two incompatible beliefs, biblical Christianity and Talmudic Judaism, which had functioned separately for 1900 years suddenly lumped together as "judeo-christianity" and done so mostly by the non-Christian media. Timeline searches show the phrase doesn't seem to have been used before the 1950's. Certainty the great Fathers of the Church never used it, and probably would be appalled at the phrase. But it's a really good way to water down and deemphasize fundamental Christian teaching, particularly the absolute necessity to accept Christ for one's salvation.
As to Scofield, it's very likely he was played or was a willing participant in this whole mess. The man had a very checkered past (abandoned his wife and kids, fraud, even jail) that he never publicly repented from. He routinely misstated his education claiming he had a Divinity Doctorate which was false. He had mysterious financial backers for his study bible that have never been explained. Someone paid him to write it, publish it, and distribute it world-wide. Add to that Dispensationalism was invented in the 1800's by John Nelson Darby and was *never* taught by the historic Church in the previous 1800 years of Christendom. Another modern creation just like "judeo-christianity".
If you'd like to know more about Scofield's past read "the Incredible Scofield and His Book" published by Joseph Canfield. It's out of print but copies can be found online. It's meticulously researched and footnoted and leaves no doubt about Scofield's character. It has has some pretty convincing speculation (backed by evidence) on who was paying for the Scofield Bible and why. It ties into this whole topic.
This book, and the Book of Hebrews, are what broke me out of Dispensationalism after thirty years.
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Thanks for this thorough and very clear summary and explanation.
Yes to “So the Old Covenant was meant to lead us to Christ, not save us. Christ is the New Covenant, the Old Covenant is finished.”.
Which raises huge questions on why the obsession with Israel among so many US Evangelical churches. And look into their funding, and how much they get their members in turn to fundraise for Israel.
The chief backer for the Scofield Bible from my reading was Samuel Untermeyer, who had ties to establishment of the Federal Reserve and other initiatives. Combined these institutions served to move us away from bedrock Christianity, and away from our independence as a nation.
Probably because of the actions of the state of Israel, which also happens to be the most heavily C19 vaxxed place on the planet, via governmental mandate. There's also their refusal to register their influence lobby operation as a foreign agent. Funny how JFK was killed during his massive fight to force them to follow US law, only to have LBJ immediately cave & let them have this weird unjustified exemption from complying with the FARA act, which somehow continues to this day. It's not hatred, it's just noticing.
Money for this must be coming from the government and it needs to be shut down. Paying doctors and pharmacies to give shots is bribery. No different from payola.
Physicians get reimbursed from insurance companies based on the percentage of vaccinations among their patient cohort.
What are diopter eyeglasses? Thank you.
Eyeglass prescription are written in diopters, it’s a measurement of how much correction is needed. Reading glasses at the drugstore are typically +1.0, 1.5, and so on (measurements are professionally down to the .25 level of change). Farsightedness (you can’t see near) usually means + diopters and nearsightedness (you can’t see far) are in - diopters. Before I had cataract surgery, my eyeglass prep was -8.0/+2.0 … blind in both directions! I couldn’t see my face in the mirror. Now I have artificial lenses in my eyes and can see 20/20 without glasses for the first time in 45 years.
Yes you absolutely can. If you are near-sighted (far things are blurry) just order glasses with a negative number for the diopter value. Use the value on your prescription if you have one. If not, they are so cheap you can order a few different diopter values and pick the one that works best.
There are a few limitations, they don't go in 1/4 increments (that I've seen) but only 1/2 increments. Plus you'll have the same values for both lenses and most people's eyes are a little different. But both my wife and I did this with the closest match and it's probably 95+% as clear as an actual "prescription" pair. And the price is unbelievable compared to what people are used to paying.
Simple diopter lenses are fairly useless for astigmatism correction.
Yup, but is that a large part of the population? I don't know the answer. In our house we are 3 for 3 so far with my wife, son, and me all using the cheap glasses
Probably not the way to go though if you have a complicated eye issue. But we are all just near-sighted ranging from -1 to -2 diopters.
I still think you'd do better, as would your brain with an actual refraction to determine what your correct prescription is... Just saying.. Yes, prescription glasses are hugely expensive! (It is a racket/ripoff)! IMHO. They can set you back hundreds of dollars! So, I don't blame you for going that route... but... you'd probably see better with a proper prescription...
Jeff C: I got my first pair of presc glasses last year. I had had RK, then Lasik for my nearsightedness but aging was affecting that correction. So I spent $600 for glasses I cannot wear. I finally stuck them in my car to wear if night driving is ever an issue and use +3 for reading. Lesson learned!
Thank you so much. So can you order your script strength on Amazon?
You can buy readers on Amazon. After my cataract surgery I needed readers for small print in low light so I purchased a pair of bifocal readers. Reading power at bottom and clear on top so that I can wear them shopping without looking like Chuckie Schumer peeking over the top of glasses. The alternative was to put them on and take them off constantly which was annoying.
You can buy readers almost anywhere locally without relying on Amazon.
Do they have them for distance in stores? Maybe they do but I've only seen the readers.
We needed distance glasses which is why I suggested Amazon.
Walmart.com carries distance glasses and Lensmart. I just try to find options other than Amazon with all their stock from China. Heck, maybe most everything is from China😩
I’ve never looked, to be honest. I know you can order reading glasses (+1.0 etc) on Amazon. You can certainly get them at Costco. I always had to order mine special from the optometrist because my prescription was so high - I had to pay extra for custom thinner lenses and edge polishing, things like that. -8.0 glasses are normally like Coke bottle bottoms unless you’re willing to pay more for higher end lenses. My last pair cost over $900. I also had astigmatism corrections, which are part of a custom lens.
I buy sunglasses with 1.0 too on amazon. Great for driving and walking.
You can have an optometrist check for glaucoma.
You should have also said, "save your documents."
Indeed Kathleen!
Booyah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best story today!!!!!
And the day has only barely started!
Pharmacists rewarded for numbers of "vaccines"/flu shots given only one of many unethical medical practices for many years. Covid precipitated the disclosure of most to the masses. Hope persists for a total cleansing!
AFAIK pharmacists aren’t rewarded per vaccine although it is a metric by which each store is judged by corporate. Corporate is who is making $ not individual pharmacists unless pharmacy managers are bonused based on vaccine volume which is entirely possible (I’m just a peon overnight RPh with no skin in the game.) Occasionally technicians are paid a per shot bonus (max I’ve seen is $3-$5) if they ask a patient at the register if they want a shot during certain promotions. The register also prompts almost every sale with ask pt if they need xyz vaccine. I’ve never once been tempted to do more than stab angrily at the prompt to make it go away but I’d say I see it at least 50 times a night. My employer does not have anyone at the store level making these sorts of phone calls to people but based on how they do other things they might hire a bunch of pre-licensed (international pending state license or graduate pending board license) “pharmacists” making these sorts of calls at a much lower than pharmacist salary and claiming to be calling from the store you shop at. I know this because they’ve called me and I’ve had to argue with them that I *work* at that store and know for a fact that they *do not* work at that store and I found it completely unethical they would claim to do so. So there’s that.
Yup an ex friend who is a pharmacist related to me how they had quotas and how hard the company pushed to get them filled 😡
not only doctors, pharmacists but the NIH and CDC as well all on the take and getting paid by Pharma for each prescription and jab - the massive conflicts of interest need to be top priority now that he has reduced headcount aka bloat - next up - ban on Pharma advertising - so many benefits for that I can't count them all
I think the Pharma ads have opened people’s eyes. The long list of side-effects, and, at the end, “Don’t take this is you’re allergic to it”. Everyone I know has had their eyes opened because they NEVER used to read the paperwork that shows ALL of the things it could cause. Now they say “…..yeah I’ll take the meds that may cause a heart attack/stroke/diabetes/death for $100, Alex.”
I think the Harma ads have done wonders in waking people up.
Just my opinion.
but the conflicts of interest is a bigger problem - CDC that is supposed to be independent getting royalties on the very vaccines that are supposed to honestly tell people about - really - who wants to criticize their paymaster - and the same for hospitals, doctors, and the MSM that gets 70% of their revenue from Pharma - now we know why MSM was was pro vax - needs to go
Good point.
My government job health insurance statements still contain boilerplate on the bottom advising people to get the latest “safe and effective“ Covid vaccines. I wonder if there is an email to which we can report this stuff to RFK?
Try X
I get texted by the pharmacy informing me of the flu-shingles-pneumonia shot waiting for me.
They have no idea what they’d be in for if I actually came in. So many questions. …..
Kroger Pharmacy also sends out regular texts to “Come on in! We’ve got a vaccine you need!” It is infuriating.
why do you shop at a place that infuriates you? or not block their texts? the only real vote we have is our $$ and attention
I receive them from Costco for my Dad 😡 Honestly Like Anyone doesn’t know about all of them from the relentless tv commercials!!??!!
I switched to Amazon pharmacy for the very reason: because there is no hectoring about injections involved. But they let you know when you are going to need a refill.
I get those calls. Emails and text messages, too. Lately, they purport to save me from shingles.
The latest part of pushing the shingles vaccine scam is that it somehow prevents you from getting Alzheimer's.
😂😂😂
I’d say my RealCall call blocking app is well worth the cost.
Every friend I know who has had the shingles vax has gotten shingles. One 5 times!! Some have had horribly painful cases.
I got shingles two days after taking a Pilates class next to a woman who was bragging she’d had her shingles vax just a few hours before.
I’m so sorry. I hope it was over with quickly for you!
Joe Rogan did an amazing interview with Dr. Suzanne Humphries last week and asked her about the Shingrex vaccine. She responded, “Why would you get a vaccine for a virus that is already living dormant in your body?” Because it’s the same virus you caught when you had chicken pox as a kid.
My husband just went through open heart triple bypass surgery three weeks ago. While signing all the consent forms prior to his surgery, he objected to any blood transfusions. I was there, and to say the medical staff looked totally confused when they asked him why he was refusing to have another person’s blood. My husband stated the reason being he did not want any possibility of any blood coming from a person who had taken the Covid Shot(s). They looked utterly SHOCKED!!!! 😳
I did the same, last July, needing surgery for a fractured wrist. I wrote, on the consent form, “no blood products from anyone except my husband”—and told the PA “I would rather die than take vaxxed blood”. I will amend my earlier comment to include this.
My husband was jabbed and furious I would not (retired RN). I told him I would rather die than get a Covid vaccine or take tainted blood. He was adamant I write our children a letter exonerating him from any fault if I died from lack of treatment. I didn’t and I won’t.
I work as a nurse in the ER and use EPIC charting system for the hospital this month after 5 years it finally got rid of the front page “Covid vaccine update section”. It took a couple of weeks for it to go away completely. At first everyone was labeled “unknown” and then the tab just disappeared! Definitely not a coincidence. Now it’s buried deep inside people’s “epic charts”. Nurses I work with are finally talk about how awful the Covid jabs were and are and how their family members are so sick because of them etc. people are getting scared in the medical community about the reckoning coming!
Texas nurse: your comment brings to mind a question I had about the cost of the C-jab. I saw that RFKJr said the Vid pandemic is officially over. Does that mean the funds for ‘free’ c-jabs have been yanked? I think/hope having to pay for them will make most/some think twice.
That’s a relief but sad for anyone going through this.
I call it elderly abuse. The older we get, we become targeted.
My widowed mom is 81 and I recently had to protect her from several scams.
One just a couple days ago. She went into some make up store for a face wash and moisturizer. The Clinique rep was there and my mother came home with $450 worth of crap. My daughter saw her and asked what was wrong because my mother was about to cry. She looked in the bag of stuff and immediately took it all back and fortunately, for the Clinique rep, she was not there.
A few months ago some realtor came by offering to sell her house and convinced her to sign a contract! WTF! I called and reamed him out. She now lives with me.
I suppose it’s good of you to engage. I just hang up and say a quick prayer that she’ll find a more useful job soon.
man, I love you! I have such rage, outrage, I am beyond outraged. We need to get really really mad. We need to take it to them.... every chance we get. I have screamed and blocked insurance company personnel calling me asking personal questions. I asked them not to call me and they said they wouldn't. Well, we will see about that.
Conservatives and Christians have been way way way too nice for way too long. Now I trust nothing on TV , no drug made by big Pharma, Nothing on the radio, nothing in the newspapers, i trust nothing! Everything is a lie. We have become little bleating sheep going to the slaughter. I'm sorry if you won't stand up when you see the evil happening to little children (6 year old this last year got brain cancer ... I know she was jabbed.... from diagnosis to death 90 days) I never heard of a 6 year old dying from brain cancer in 90 days. If you will not stand up and get aggressive and shame and humiliate these people then you have laid down and let it happen. You are complicit. I pray God will take this rage from me. I ask Jesus to share his yoke with me. I'm on my knees and face constantly begging for mercy because my hatred for the liars and murderers is more than I can bear.
God Bless you for standing up and making one of them feel a little heat from hell for once.
There's a huge, neon green elephant in a very small room.....when will Trump admit that he killed, and is killing, hundreds of millions of people globally, as a result of his " Warp Speed"?!?
It could not have happened without him opening the gates of hell for the deceived masses who trustingly took the deadly injections. He is not ignorant of the outcome of what he set loose.
Trump and Kennedy families both have huge investments in big biotech and big pharma. Do you honestly think they will cut their own throats? Follow the money. They will only find another way to get around it. If people are to be held accountable, it needs to start with the puppets at the top, under the globalist's control.
There are none so dangerous as those who don't know that they are deceived. They will follow evil blindly, and even make excuses for it when it is right in front of them.
You make a point, but you are aware that the work on these disgusting jabs ( NOT vaccines), started long beforehand. Before the plandemic, the norm to develop any New vaccine was years. And years.
Trump had thousands of vials of Covid “vaccines” switched to normal saline and always said they were voluntary. It was Biden who rolled out the toxic ones and created mandates. If Trump didn’t roll those out when he did, our country would be no more. The left was willing to allow our economy and everything else to be flushed down the tubes.
Theyre either stupid or evil.
YES!