I’m headed to Cleveland Clinic in early May and am curious about what questions they will ask me. Last time I was there was late 2022 and the covid nonsense was still happening.
I’m headed to Cleveland Clinic in early May and am curious about what questions they will ask me. Last time I was there was late 2022 and the covid nonsense was still happening.
Back then I had to stay overnight in an observation unit and the nurse kept insisting I had to have a covid test. This was AFTER I already had my procedure! I kept telling him no, and finally I said “if you make me have that I will leave right now.” This was around midnight. I also informed him that on the facility website that it stated a test was not required. He finally gave up. So stupid.
Wanted that bonus payment for taking care of a Covid patient. Also could have then shuttled you off to $$$ ICU and the big money. The horror! I wonder how many people they “got” this way?
I had a similar situation in our hospital ER. I went in for a possible heart attack, but their main mission was to test me for covid. This was in 2023! I kept saying no to the test, they sent in the "bigger guns", finally I said, "If you don't accept my NO, I am getting out of this bed right now and leaving". Within 20 minutes I was "released" after being there for 7 hours for heart tests, and supposedly, there was now nothing wrong with me, everything was just fine. They did not even give me copies of my blood tests/ or anything except four pages of information on covid. That fiasco was billed to medicare for over $6K (which they paid a minuscule fraction , the rest written off.) And you wonder why health care is in such a mess! Go Bobby!!
Yes, when you check in, don’t sign on the electronic pad after scrolling through pages of fine print giving them all kinds of broad permisssions. Tell them you can’t read the electronic version and to print it all out on paper. Then you can cross-out and write-in as you please, initialing each change you make, before you put your signature on it. Then have them make a copy “for my records.”
IMHO, it's not enough to just cross things out and sign it. Most healthcare professionals don't actually read it and carry the consciousness that they are in charge and have the power to overturn your instructions and make choices for you because they know better. This is where anticipating the weak link comes in. It would be best to loudly and vocally make sure EVERYONE knows that you are not to be injected with any vaccine or mrna injection at any time, to hand out copies of your highlighted instructions to everyone who has the ability to inject you with anything, and to make sure that they understand that your health advocate and lawyer are physically in the hospital or on standby to make sure your instructions are followed, or else. Because once you get injected - "Oh, sorry, we missed that" - or learn they injected you while you were under anyway, then it cannot be undone. This happened to someone I know. She suspected she was given the vax at a routine doctor's visit, even though she said she didn't want one. Later on the doctor refused to release a copy of her medical file.
Yeah, but the defense attorney will say, "Prove it". You can be sure that there will be no direct link of causation, and no record anywhere in the doc's files.
Yes and give yourself plenty of time to go through all the documents they want you to sign. Think of how many people just blindly sign them without reading what they’ve agreed to and who all has access to your electronic chart??
Can they send these documents out ahead of time so patients don't have to sign them at the time of admission, when they have more time and brain band-width to read/edit the documents?
Here is a company leading the grassroots effort to keep at least part of the blood supply clean for those who donate and those who need a blood donation https://safeblood.com/
I’ve just started a book by a cardiologist named William Davis called “Undoctored”. Fascinating reading and his YouTube channel is packed with knowledge. His concern and kindness shine through clearly and he breaks down concepts clearly and respectfully. I encourage you to pick up a copy and find out just how many of those doctors you really need! 🥰🙏🏻✝️
Were you down here at the FL site? Not that it matters, the whole thing is a perfect reflection of their Brookings Institution board members: Elitist, Democrat, smarmy, and woke.
Yes. At one point there was a guy walking through the lobby hawking the COVID shot, saying it was his last one. I made the mistake of ending up on the elevator with him and he asked me if I wanted it. I said no thank you. There were several other maddening encounters. But the interventional radiologist probably saved my life by coiling an AVM in my brain. So that’s worth something I guess!
As for me having seen so many doctors, my GP is a wonderful Christian man who is holistic in approach and he takes good care of me. I just have abnormal issues that can’t be helped without physical intervention if they even know what to do for me! I’ve been called an “anomaly” and “rare” and “unusual.” Fun times. To God be the glory!
No kidding! I worked in Neurosurgery! Was it Dave Miller (I hope)?
At the end of my 16 years there, I did a long-term float in Employee Health. My job was to catch up the site on N95 fit testing and give flu shots. This was 2021, so we were still getting sweated by the Covid jab brownshirts. That declination process would have made Torquemada blush. I didn’t give the Covid jabs but I had a few heart-to-hearts with people that were conflicted on the matter.
Yeah, interventional radiologists come in a couple of flavors. We called them “brain” and “body” guys. They all have outpatient sides to their practice and I worked with a couple of the interventional radiologists in outpatient neurosurgery. I barely missed you, what a tiny little world! God is good!
My husband goes there every year. They never mention the c shot.
But, when he had a procedure there, he was required to be swabbed for c the day before the procedure. Cleansing his nose with diluted betadyne prior to swab works. 😀
I’m headed to Cleveland Clinic in early May and am curious about what questions they will ask me. Last time I was there was late 2022 and the covid nonsense was still happening.
Back then I had to stay overnight in an observation unit and the nurse kept insisting I had to have a covid test. This was AFTER I already had my procedure! I kept telling him no, and finally I said “if you make me have that I will leave right now.” This was around midnight. I also informed him that on the facility website that it stated a test was not required. He finally gave up. So stupid.
Wanted that bonus payment for taking care of a Covid patient. Also could have then shuttled you off to $$$ ICU and the big money. The horror! I wonder how many people they “got” this way?
so very true, those commie Demonrats.
I had a similar situation in our hospital ER. I went in for a possible heart attack, but their main mission was to test me for covid. This was in 2023! I kept saying no to the test, they sent in the "bigger guns", finally I said, "If you don't accept my NO, I am getting out of this bed right now and leaving". Within 20 minutes I was "released" after being there for 7 hours for heart tests, and supposedly, there was now nothing wrong with me, everything was just fine. They did not even give me copies of my blood tests/ or anything except four pages of information on covid. That fiasco was billed to medicare for over $6K (which they paid a minuscule fraction , the rest written off.) And you wonder why health care is in such a mess! Go Bobby!!
Going to put RFK in my regular morning prayers. Go, RFK!
Wow; coercion and harassment instead of informed consent.
it's the new normal and if we lay down for it it's going to get worse.
What they do to parents of children around "shot schedule" is deplorable! Talk about harassment.
Cleveland Clinic did an internal study and as a result they do not recommend shots for their employees. I’d be wary but they know the risks.
So disrespectful and unprofessional! Nothing like hitting you when you are already down. Grrrr!
And they don't care. They are "just following orders"...
no. criminal.
Make sure to note, in your own hand-writing, with your own signature, "No mRNA products to be administered to me"
Yes, when you check in, don’t sign on the electronic pad after scrolling through pages of fine print giving them all kinds of broad permisssions. Tell them you can’t read the electronic version and to print it all out on paper. Then you can cross-out and write-in as you please, initialing each change you make, before you put your signature on it. Then have them make a copy “for my records.”
That’s even better! Many thanks to you.
Exactly!!! 💯 do the paper copies
IMHO, it's not enough to just cross things out and sign it. Most healthcare professionals don't actually read it and carry the consciousness that they are in charge and have the power to overturn your instructions and make choices for you because they know better. This is where anticipating the weak link comes in. It would be best to loudly and vocally make sure EVERYONE knows that you are not to be injected with any vaccine or mrna injection at any time, to hand out copies of your highlighted instructions to everyone who has the ability to inject you with anything, and to make sure that they understand that your health advocate and lawyer are physically in the hospital or on standby to make sure your instructions are followed, or else. Because once you get injected - "Oh, sorry, we missed that" - or learn they injected you while you were under anyway, then it cannot be undone. This happened to someone I know. She suspected she was given the vax at a routine doctor's visit, even though she said she didn't want one. Later on the doctor refused to release a copy of her medical file.
Refusing to release medical records to the patient sounds like grounds for lawsuit to me!!
Yeah, but the defense attorney will say, "Prove it". You can be sure that there will be no direct link of causation, and no record anywhere in the doc's files.
Your medical records belong to you, not the doctor. They must give you a copy.
Very wise, thank you @Horizons. My wife has a procedure coming up in the next couple months and we are going to do what you suggested.
Great idea!!
Yes and give yourself plenty of time to go through all the documents they want you to sign. Think of how many people just blindly sign them without reading what they’ve agreed to and who all has access to your electronic chart??
Can they send these documents out ahead of time so patients don't have to sign them at the time of admission, when they have more time and brain band-width to read/edit the documents?
Excellent advice.
Not just that, no blood transfusions. Donate your own blood ahead of planned procedure. Not always possible though.
Here is a company leading the grassroots effort to keep at least part of the blood supply clean for those who donate and those who need a blood donation https://safeblood.com/
Hannah, thank you for this resource.
Janice~wishing you the best for the upcoming visit to Cleveland Clinic. 🙏Prayers that the Lord’s favor & blessing is on you in every way❤️
Thank you!
See if they have patient advocates, and if not look up an independent patient advocate association, and get your own even if you have to pay for it
Graith Care out of Texas but they have advocates everywhere!
Saying prayers for you Janice.
Thank you so much for the prayers! This trip will be adding a doctor to my already long list!
I’ve just started a book by a cardiologist named William Davis called “Undoctored”. Fascinating reading and his YouTube channel is packed with knowledge. His concern and kindness shine through clearly and he breaks down concepts clearly and respectfully. I encourage you to pick up a copy and find out just how many of those doctors you really need! 🥰🙏🏻✝️
Oooo- I need to look that book up. I’ve read his other two books on gut health.
Amen! May the Lord Jesus cover you w His protection, Janice, and provide Godly medical care workers to be His hands. 🙏🏼
Tell them you are allergic to Remdesivir. Make them chart it.
You do know it has a new name...
Verklury
VEKLURY
That’s what dribbles out of Fauci’s mouth when he eats linguine marinara
😂
Not really a “new” name. Veklury is the brand name for the drug remdesivir.
Considering the games they are playing, it’s good to know both, for sure!
Oh? What is it now?
All you have to do, Janice, is quote their own Cleveland clinic study! The conversation will end at that!
Ah yes, I will keep that in mind. As bad as it was up there though, it was not nearly as insane as the Mayo Clinic in 2021.
Were you down here at the FL site? Not that it matters, the whole thing is a perfect reflection of their Brookings Institution board members: Elitist, Democrat, smarmy, and woke.
Yes. At one point there was a guy walking through the lobby hawking the COVID shot, saying it was his last one. I made the mistake of ending up on the elevator with him and he asked me if I wanted it. I said no thank you. There were several other maddening encounters. But the interventional radiologist probably saved my life by coiling an AVM in my brain. So that’s worth something I guess!
As for me having seen so many doctors, my GP is a wonderful Christian man who is holistic in approach and he takes good care of me. I just have abnormal issues that can’t be helped without physical intervention if they even know what to do for me! I’ve been called an “anomaly” and “rare” and “unusual.” Fun times. To God be the glory!
Janice, from your last sentence, sounds like you are a believer in Jesus. That's the only thing that matters in the end! prying for you.
Absolutely. I figure He puts people in my path for His purposes. Eight hospital systems and somewhere around 60 doctors in the last 6 years.
Glory to God in the highest!
No kidding! I worked in Neurosurgery! Was it Dave Miller (I hope)?
At the end of my 16 years there, I did a long-term float in Employee Health. My job was to catch up the site on N95 fit testing and give flu shots. This was 2021, so we were still getting sweated by the Covid jab brownshirts. That declination process would have made Torquemada blush. I didn’t give the Covid jabs but I had a few heart-to-hearts with people that were conflicted on the matter.
Dr. Huynh.
I never got to know that one, but I am grateful for the life they saved that day! 🥰🙏🏻🥰
He was very nice and competent. He is in radiology.
Yeah, interventional radiologists come in a couple of flavors. We called them “brain” and “body” guys. They all have outpatient sides to their practice and I worked with a couple of the interventional radiologists in outpatient neurosurgery. I barely missed you, what a tiny little world! God is good!
I have said those exact words because I have both kinds of docs. I have done a lot of research and learned a lot.
I was there in April, July, and November of that year.
you forgot Rockefeller owned.
My husband goes there every year. They never mention the c shot.
But, when he had a procedure there, he was required to be swabbed for c the day before the procedure. Cleansing his nose with diluted betadyne prior to swab works. 😀
Surely they are not still doing those tests now. 😖
Only if you have symptoms.