It’s a good idea to always have someone there with you during any procedure or surgery and specifically request that they can’t do anything other than the procedure specified on the consent form without asking you or, if you’re under anesthesia, asking the person you've designated as your power of attorney for healthcare decisions. That …
It’s a good idea to always have someone there with you during any procedure or surgery and specifically request that they can’t do anything other than the procedure specified on the consent form without asking you or, if you’re under anesthesia, asking the person you've designated as your power of attorney for healthcare decisions. That person should stay in the waiting area until you’re on the postop floor. Also, you can draw a line through and put your initials on anything in the consent form that you do not consent to. Or add it to the form. Again, essential to have a patient advocate with you.
Yep! When I about 40, I had a shoulder surgery and thank God! I was still coherent as the person prepping me started putting the Betadine on my right shoulder. I said, hey Dude, it's my left shoulder to which he said, no Sir, it's most often the right. I said, check the chart. He did, rested the chart back on my stomach and proceeded to swab the left..... dodged that bullet.
I also woke up in the middle of that surgery and asked the Dr. how it was going. He said, Mr. Horton, you are not supposed to be awake, nodded at the Anesthesiologist and that's the last thing I remembered....
I kid you not!
Keep a sharp eye out folks or have someone, who cares, watch your back!
You're experience isn't atypical, sad to say. We've experienced similar and witnessed worse, resulting in death. At least the deaths were very old people - they seem to get "terminal care" quite often.
I should say “not much respect” rather than “no respect.” There are, of course, many good medical practitioners out there who believe life is sacred. But if doctors and nurses are neither devout Christians nor devout Hindus (and some other religions), I’d be wary. Same with staffers.
(Timestamp is descending, testimony begins when 31:23 is remaining in hearing, runs about ten minutes)
Despite this public hearing and the outrage and disgust the legislators had during the hearing the bill failed and it is still legal in Massachusetts and most states for doctors to sexually assault their patients while they're anesthetized, without their consent.
That elite school thing Jeff wrote about how they think of the deplorable, stupid proles reaches everywhere, leaders and top officials are trained to think like this. Especially into the allopathic medical industry.
It's taught and called Utilitarian ethics. Greater good. The justification for these types of offenses and assaults is "you might say "no." On the record in that hearing recording link I provided above. Go in to get your tonsils removed, an appendectomy, leave walking funny, and not from the surgery. You might've said "no" if you knew. And they needed to be trained, practice. Your body served a greater good.
A sickening truth about the risks everyone faces when anesthetized in a hospital. And how the 'elite' think about everything they do, every violation of our individual rights. The collective is more important. Greater good.
That's why I looked around until I found someone and somewhere (out of state) that would do a hip replacement out patient. I was not about to go into a kill zone for anything elective . Still won't
I agree with you completely. I was speaking of those who do not take statins. And probably the statins and the anesthesia together, cause it to come on faster or to be more severe or both.
Wow. I used to think most doctors got into it because they wanted to help people, or for the money and prestige. Now, my default take is they want to indulge their creepiness and psychopathic urge to hurt people. I realize there are a few good ones scattered amongst the scum.
Thing is, most do get into it for all the reasons you state. But one of the witnesses in the testimony link I provide above describes how the psychopathy is trained *into* them in medical school. "If you want to be a doctor this is what's involved. Deal with it or do something else for a living."
This is the beginning of the negotiation of morals and ethos. The price of entry. And once paid each subsequent negotiation gets easier and easier to rationalize. Until the morals and ethos they had when they first got into the field become a quaint memory, tsk-tsk'd as naiveté.
Those who were already psychopaths before they got into the field become Larry Nassar's. The Olympic doctor serial rapist now in prison. How many more still out there?
With RARE exception every licensed medical professional demonstrated how easy it is to get them to negotiate away their morals and ethos during the pandemic. Their actions are proof positive that nearly all value their license to practice medicine more than they value the lives of their patients. NEVER trust your health and life to the care of someone who cares more about their paycheck than your life. Their negotiations place more value on *their* lives, status, comforts and self-image than *your* life or the lives of your loved ones.
Never forget that nobody has as much concern or at stake for your life than you do. Self-preservation relies on self, not others. Assistance is great, sometimes necessary. But you make the most important decisions. And it's incumbent on you to do your own research about matters involving your own health and life. Blind trust is for suckers.
Somebody could make a fortune if they opened up a website which could personalize a person's health data (very importantly including all the information regarding what one can present for their UNIQUE situation/ experience) .
In other words...... what the "medical professionals" have no time to listen to !
( the fortune COULD be used to further advance this concept ) . If one had that in their heart to do so .
Kinda like naturapaths are supposed to do ..... though they do seem to charge a LOT .
Yep. The looks on the faces of the committee members were pure disgust. Everybody in the hearing room was disgusted to learn. The hospitals had nobody there to testify against the bill. The practice is indefensible. The application of utilitarianism usually is. So indefensible that the elite public policymakers will only articulate justification for utilitarian-driven decisions behind closed doors, among friends, other "experts" who have to make the "difficult choices" unburdened by the emotional, unsophisticated sentiments of the proles. Who could never understand or appreciate what a "greater good" entails. And so, the bill was killed behind closed doors, without a public vote.
Medical rape is definitely a thing… always talk to your doctor before having any kind of medical procedure in-house… Tell them you do NOT want them examining you like that and make sure it’s on paper!
I never seen this in any of the hospitals I worked at. But I have been in contact with several women who have had this kind of thing done to them!
And the thing is, for most it's not even a purient, sexual gratification thing. Is why they don't feel anything wrong doing it. They have a professional detachment.
Supposedly that's supposed to make the victim feel better. There's actually a lot of people who do consent, for the collective, greater good. Like those who volunteer for drug trials.
But apparently not enough volunteer. So they conscript the unknowing, the trusting, the anesthetized. Who wants to be conscripted into "intimate examinations?" A room full of trainees staring deep inside your fully exposed privates under a spotlight while you're out for an appendectomy, an unwitting model for aspiring gynecologists.
But it's okay, it's medical, professional, no biggie!
And the older you are, the more crucial it becomes to have a clear-headed authorized agent with you. Aging uselesss eaters are still targets of a certain sector of the medico-pharma collaborative.
these people don't do informed consent anymore and they surely do not care what your personal convictions are. I will never go again to a hospital or for any surgery at all. My trust for the entire healthcare industry is zero and cannot be repaired.
Amen and I have worked in healthcare (Diagnostic imaging now) for over 30 years.
We are on our own. It is up to us to research, listen to good doctors we can trust (that just make sense) like Dr Ken D Berry and Dr Shawn Baker (former USAF Orthopedic Surgeon, veteran (possibly combat?)
Hospital emergency rooms are for emergencies, not your strep throat or fever in the middle of the night. That's what urgent care is for, and if you have a family doctor, you call and get in as a sick patient in the morning. I have seen too many cases of people getting nosocomial infections that could kill them after minor and major surgeries or ER visits. Mostly antibiotic resistant bacteria like MRSA.
I stay away from the hospital if possible. I'll go for broken bones or stitches maybe, but not if I can help it!
Yes. This. Have someone there at all times. Important: Make absolutely sure you have the correct heathcare directive completed (in the state where procedures are performed). See an attorney if needed. Hospitals are notorious for ignoring these documents, and if you go to court, the forms need to be executed perfectly, and on file wherever you go.
Question: How do the hospitals receive these forms and requests? Are they accepting of it or will it cause them to be less than cordial? I will be having knee replacement and don’t trust doctors of hospitals these days. I don’t want someone mad at me going in.
Julie, will they allow you in the operating room? I don’t think so. Even if they did, it would take one second to slip in that needle and push. Don’t blink!
In addition to crossing out anything you disagree/ don't consent to, please write in "no biologics including blood transfusions." Donate your own blood ahead of elective procedure. Biologics are all those things "created" in a lab & foreign to our biology.
It’s a good idea to always have someone there with you during any procedure or surgery and specifically request that they can’t do anything other than the procedure specified on the consent form without asking you or, if you’re under anesthesia, asking the person you've designated as your power of attorney for healthcare decisions. That person should stay in the waiting area until you’re on the postop floor. Also, you can draw a line through and put your initials on anything in the consent form that you do not consent to. Or add it to the form. Again, essential to have a patient advocate with you.
Yep! When I about 40, I had a shoulder surgery and thank God! I was still coherent as the person prepping me started putting the Betadine on my right shoulder. I said, hey Dude, it's my left shoulder to which he said, no Sir, it's most often the right. I said, check the chart. He did, rested the chart back on my stomach and proceeded to swab the left..... dodged that bullet.
I also woke up in the middle of that surgery and asked the Dr. how it was going. He said, Mr. Horton, you are not supposed to be awake, nodded at the Anesthesiologist and that's the last thing I remembered....
I kid you not!
Keep a sharp eye out folks or have someone, who cares, watch your back!
Later Jay
You're experience isn't atypical, sad to say. We've experienced similar and witnessed worse, resulting in death. At least the deaths were very old people - they seem to get "terminal care" quite often.
Yep. You nailed it. There is no respect for the Sanctity of Life in the medical field anymore.
I should say “not much respect” rather than “no respect.” There are, of course, many good medical practitioners out there who believe life is sacred. But if doctors and nurses are neither devout Christians nor devout Hindus (and some other religions), I’d be wary. Same with staffers.
Parents should be doing that when they’re giving birth crossing out vaccines given during the birthing process
It's so much worse than anyone wants to think. So bad that there's a need to pass a bill like this:
Massachusetts 2023 H.2146 / S.1333
An Act prohibiting nonconsensual intimate examinations of anesthetized or unconscious patients
Committee on Public Health, 9/20/2023
https://malegislature.gov/Events/Hearings/Detail/4682
(Timestamp is descending, testimony begins when 31:23 is remaining in hearing, runs about ten minutes)
Despite this public hearing and the outrage and disgust the legislators had during the hearing the bill failed and it is still legal in Massachusetts and most states for doctors to sexually assault their patients while they're anesthetized, without their consent.
That elite school thing Jeff wrote about how they think of the deplorable, stupid proles reaches everywhere, leaders and top officials are trained to think like this. Especially into the allopathic medical industry.
It's taught and called Utilitarian ethics. Greater good. The justification for these types of offenses and assaults is "you might say "no." On the record in that hearing recording link I provided above. Go in to get your tonsils removed, an appendectomy, leave walking funny, and not from the surgery. You might've said "no" if you knew. And they needed to be trained, practice. Your body served a greater good.
A sickening truth about the risks everyone faces when anesthetized in a hospital. And how the 'elite' think about everything they do, every violation of our individual rights. The collective is more important. Greater good.
https://www.atyourcervixmovie.com/
That's why I looked around until I found someone and somewhere (out of state) that would do a hip replacement out patient. I was not about to go into a kill zone for anything elective . Still won't
The general anesthesia is why so many seniors have Alzheimer’s.
I still believe that lowering of cholesterol via statin drugs is the true cause of dementia, because I witnessed it in my own mother.
I agree with you completely. I was speaking of those who do not take statins. And probably the statins and the anesthesia together, cause it to come on faster or to be more severe or both.
Can’t argue with that. My mom was also anesthetized multiple times- more than 2 dozen
Did the people who sent the hip replacement get the address wrong ?
I just received a strange looking package yesterday !!
Wow. I used to think most doctors got into it because they wanted to help people, or for the money and prestige. Now, my default take is they want to indulge their creepiness and psychopathic urge to hurt people. I realize there are a few good ones scattered amongst the scum.
Thing is, most do get into it for all the reasons you state. But one of the witnesses in the testimony link I provide above describes how the psychopathy is trained *into* them in medical school. "If you want to be a doctor this is what's involved. Deal with it or do something else for a living."
This is the beginning of the negotiation of morals and ethos. The price of entry. And once paid each subsequent negotiation gets easier and easier to rationalize. Until the morals and ethos they had when they first got into the field become a quaint memory, tsk-tsk'd as naiveté.
Those who were already psychopaths before they got into the field become Larry Nassar's. The Olympic doctor serial rapist now in prison. How many more still out there?
With RARE exception every licensed medical professional demonstrated how easy it is to get them to negotiate away their morals and ethos during the pandemic. Their actions are proof positive that nearly all value their license to practice medicine more than they value the lives of their patients. NEVER trust your health and life to the care of someone who cares more about their paycheck than your life. Their negotiations place more value on *their* lives, status, comforts and self-image than *your* life or the lives of your loved ones.
Never forget that nobody has as much concern or at stake for your life than you do. Self-preservation relies on self, not others. Assistance is great, sometimes necessary. But you make the most important decisions. And it's incumbent on you to do your own research about matters involving your own health and life. Blind trust is for suckers.
Somebody could make a fortune if they opened up a website which could personalize a person's health data (very importantly including all the information regarding what one can present for their UNIQUE situation/ experience) .
In other words...... what the "medical professionals" have no time to listen to !
( the fortune COULD be used to further advance this concept ) . If one had that in their heart to do so .
Kinda like naturapaths are supposed to do ..... though they do seem to charge a LOT .
Probably at least 90% are there strictly for the money. Greed.
Well, that's a new and disgusting revelation!
Yep. The looks on the faces of the committee members were pure disgust. Everybody in the hearing room was disgusted to learn. The hospitals had nobody there to testify against the bill. The practice is indefensible. The application of utilitarianism usually is. So indefensible that the elite public policymakers will only articulate justification for utilitarian-driven decisions behind closed doors, among friends, other "experts" who have to make the "difficult choices" unburdened by the emotional, unsophisticated sentiments of the proles. Who could never understand or appreciate what a "greater good" entails. And so, the bill was killed behind closed doors, without a public vote.
Medical rape is definitely a thing… always talk to your doctor before having any kind of medical procedure in-house… Tell them you do NOT want them examining you like that and make sure it’s on paper!
I never seen this in any of the hospitals I worked at. But I have been in contact with several women who have had this kind of thing done to them!
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And the thing is, for most it's not even a purient, sexual gratification thing. Is why they don't feel anything wrong doing it. They have a professional detachment.
Supposedly that's supposed to make the victim feel better. There's actually a lot of people who do consent, for the collective, greater good. Like those who volunteer for drug trials.
But apparently not enough volunteer. So they conscript the unknowing, the trusting, the anesthetized. Who wants to be conscripted into "intimate examinations?" A room full of trainees staring deep inside your fully exposed privates under a spotlight while you're out for an appendectomy, an unwitting model for aspiring gynecologists.
But it's okay, it's medical, professional, no biggie!
And the older you are, the more crucial it becomes to have a clear-headed authorized agent with you. Aging uselesss eaters are still targets of a certain sector of the medico-pharma collaborative.
these people don't do informed consent anymore and they surely do not care what your personal convictions are. I will never go again to a hospital or for any surgery at all. My trust for the entire healthcare industry is zero and cannot be repaired.
I’m with you, Deborah. Thanks.
Amen and I have worked in healthcare (Diagnostic imaging now) for over 30 years.
We are on our own. It is up to us to research, listen to good doctors we can trust (that just make sense) like Dr Ken D Berry and Dr Shawn Baker (former USAF Orthopedic Surgeon, veteran (possibly combat?)
Hospital emergency rooms are for emergencies, not your strep throat or fever in the middle of the night. That's what urgent care is for, and if you have a family doctor, you call and get in as a sick patient in the morning. I have seen too many cases of people getting nosocomial infections that could kill them after minor and major surgeries or ER visits. Mostly antibiotic resistant bacteria like MRSA.
I stay away from the hospital if possible. I'll go for broken bones or stitches maybe, but not if I can help it!
Obviously.
So what's your advice for the great many of us who are not so fortunate as to have anyone?
And after the murderous covid coup, what makes you think the white coats would actually follow the rules in the first place?
Yes. This. Have someone there at all times. Important: Make absolutely sure you have the correct heathcare directive completed (in the state where procedures are performed). See an attorney if needed. Hospitals are notorious for ignoring these documents, and if you go to court, the forms need to be executed perfectly, and on file wherever you go.
This should help if you need to go to a hospital. It is a plan with a how-to video.
https://protocolkills.substack.com/p/the-caregiver-and-consent-document
Question: How do the hospitals receive these forms and requests? Are they accepting of it or will it cause them to be less than cordial? I will be having knee replacement and don’t trust doctors of hospitals these days. I don’t want someone mad at me going in.
I just found the info and the video explains it.
What about those little electronic screens you sign but don’t know you’re actually signing what’s on the computer screen?
Julie, will they allow you in the operating room? I don’t think so. Even if they did, it would take one second to slip in that needle and push. Don’t blink!
In addition to crossing out anything you disagree/ don't consent to, please write in "no biologics including blood transfusions." Donate your own blood ahead of elective procedure. Biologics are all those things "created" in a lab & foreign to our biology.
May you all be well 🙏🙏🙏