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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I'm with you! Never-vaxxer it is! ✊

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Alison Smith's avatar

I'm a Not Anymore Vaxxer, or Never Again Vaxxer. We stopped with the rollout of the HPV vaccine for girls.

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Laura Fisher's avatar

I decided way before that, but it definitely got me thinking even more. My dad is a physician. He would “suggest” all the time to get my kids vaccinated and then really pushed the hpv one. I would send him all these articles about girls being harmed, but he had believed the big Pharma for so long…blank stare. Covid was even worse for us. He said that every person not getting the shot SHOULD die. I asked him…do you tell the alcoholic or diabetic the same thing when they want more meds? You signed up to treat every human the same. The brainwash with covid was crazy. Now, I have 2 step siblings on blood thinners because of clots and my parents got really sick after their booster. Hmm

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

How does someone turn into the kind of person who wishes death on someone who refused an experimental shot?

Boggles the mind...I lost "friends" because they tried to push me to take the death shot.

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Donna in MO's avatar

There were a lot of them -- have you seen this!? GREAT compilation video of all of the gaslighting. https://covidreason.substack.com/p/if-you-watch-one-video-make-it-this

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Emumundo's avatar

Got halfway through the video and it started to trigger PTSD. Anyone who did not get the vaccine in the face of the relentless hype should be proud of themselves.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I am one of those, the harder they pushed it, the more I dug my heels in. Always had a rebellious streak, I think it's genetic, LOL. In grade school they banned fingernail polish and lip gloss (religious school and said not appropriate for young girls). I was a tomboy and owned neither, but I used my allowance to buy clear nail polish and some lip gloss, never got busted.

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L1's avatar

Does anyone have a clip of wallensky saying “what we can’t say anymore is that the vaccine prevents you from giving it to others.”? Believe it or not, I still know a couple of people who still *today* think the vaxxed are safer to be around than the un-vaxxed. Any links appreciated!

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Donna in MO's avatar

This is not a video, but props to Justin Hart, who posted a motherlode of links on a variety of shot topics:

90 Citations: There is no justification for Covid vaccine mandates at schools & colleges

in COVID-19

https://rationalground.com/90-citations-there-is-no-justification-for-covid-vaccine-mandates-at-schools-colleges

07/14/2022

This is newer, from 2023: https://covidreason.substack.com/p/the-ultimate-vaccine-list-of-links

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ILoveherbs's avatar

Appalling!

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SusanMc's avatar

I’ve lost friends who took the poison shots 😭

As in died!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, I know a couple of people who also died after taking the covid death shots.

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Alison Smith's avatar

So the big question is, why have doctors turned into covid zombies who cannot critically think for themselves? Or have they always been this way with vaccines? They have become militant vaccinators.

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CStone's avatar

$$$$$$$$$$ from BigPharma. Kickbacks on every Rx and shot

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Dr Linda's avatar

Without a doubt plus being blackmailed to keep working.

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Credenda's avatar

Yes but I think it has to be more than simple greed. The zombification of the doctor crowd was too pervasive. It was eerie.

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A.J.'s avatar

US doctors virtually all became self-selected box tickers and button pushing dumb machines from the time they declared their undergraduate major as pre-med. The majority are mere do-the-minimums go-along tools to get any big payday after doing minimal button pushing and form filling. Their med school class on vaccines?

Given "the schedule" and taught the "safe & effective" mantra over 15 minutes at best. Lockstep followers of the "approved" medical school curriculum paid for by big pharma, enabled by big government, and regulated by the exclusive monopoly trade union doctors' "state" licensing boards.

I watched the pre-meds at my college closely. None had any interest in challenging the status quo at any time. Just eager to get a "status" job and big paydays. Many were moral losers: cheaters and eager to cover up any messes. One I helped catch spiking reagents in a chemistry lab class who wanted to screw the grading curve to help himself. Over a hundred of us spent 2 frustrating weeks using his spiked reagents.

Once they are able to get near human patients they virtually all revel in being a white coated "expert" owed deference all the time from all their "patients." I've seen most treat their nurses like dirt. Add the fact the majority of US high school grads are so grossly dumbed down taking only best one class of biology, chemistry or physics and here we are. Lazy leading the lazy.

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rolandttg's avatar

from all we have experienced, seen and read, I'm going with they are always brainwashed highly paid big Pharma reps. Their schooling training, and licensing rules are all designed to do exactly that. Like grunt soldiers, they want them reacting to their training, not thinking. The people "up the line" are the thinkers. They are just doers.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Great comment. I'm only a lawyer but my sense from years of dealing with doctors professionally is that there is a basic system of belief in allopathic medicine which requires buy-in to 'The Science'. You're not competent if you don't trust the basic tools of the trade, i.e., medicine.

The pharma rep brainwashing of medical professionals is depicted fairly accurately in the Hulu series, Dopesick. Doctors are wined-and-dined, given monetary incentives, as well as propagandized by Big Pharma.

My former family doc's waiting room was a paid advertisement for the latest and greatest big pharma products. I pretty much knew what medicines I would be prescribed based upon my symptoms and by looking around the office.

I recall the scene from the movie 'What About Bob?' where Dr. Marvin (Richard Dreyfuss) looks around the office for the 'ground-breaking new book' that's right on point for Bob's (Bill Murray) subjective complaints. It just happens to be the book Babysteps that Dr. Marvin just had published.

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Jen's avatar

Yes! That Hulu series should be required viewing for everyone. It's a wakeup call to show how the pharma reps are able to convince doctors to do whatever they want all for their own enrichment and very much against the best interests of the patients.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Not bad for a lawyer, Buddy. HA!

Later Jay

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

It's just a different form of 'Special Education'.

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STH's avatar

Painkiller on Netflix about the opioid epidemic was really good too.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I concluded a long time ago that, with rare exception, there's actually something wrong with doctors. Whether it's inborn :) or it develops over time and worsens as a result of "med" school, the vast majority possess a view, IMO, that is antithetical to real health. That is, they hold a view that we're all just one or more diseases awaiting their discovery and cure -- and that's what their egos live for. During this global Covid® operation, they showed their true colors.

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daverkb's avatar

Very interesting. And most doctors are very much like the Apex and Lower Apex Elites, being Infallible gods in a Death Cult and intrinsically anti-Christian. That is, whether consciously or not, doctors very markedly tend choose the world (and the things money can buy) over the straight and narrow with is Life (which includes putting the patient and doing no harm first). I realize this can be construed as an over-simplification, and yet there is a large grain of truth to it).

There is the term 'brainwashing'. The trouble with the term is that there is no single condition or state of reference to which the term can failsafe be applied. The term itself is as slippery as is term 'gender fluidity'. The truth is that we all learn 'a system'. The real question is 'what system'? As a Christian learning, reading the Bible from a Reformation Era doctrinal stance I am compelled to choose Life. This means working with God's perfect creation instead of allopathic tinker-toys.

As always, delusion place a large role in life. And so it is with doctors. Most doctors were, for example, C19 delusional. Almost non of them bothered to check to see if all cause mortality rose in any of the period prior to the C19 Bioweapon Jab roll out. Had the doctors done so, they would have found that there was never, never a pandemic. But their was a bioweapon supported by a reign of terror campaign.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I had a PhD friend who explained to me a long time ago that the process of obtaining such an advanced degree actually changes your personality...and not for the better. He was a bit of a maverick and recognized the process early. The process tends to make people extremely arrogant.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I believe it. I also think that the societal blowing of sunshine up the rear ends of med students and doctors contributes to this arrogance or superiority or whatever we want to call this affliction. Are there good ones? Sure, but they're rare birds among this white-coated flock. I have for decades and continue to this day to do everything I can to avoid them at all costs.

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Shelle's avatar

Not to mention, the process screens out independent thinkers! At every stage, to move forward, doctors to be have to jump through more hoops, proving how good they are at following arbitrary rules rather than solving real patients problems.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Some (or many, or most) have always been this way. I learned way back in the 80’s to not trust doctors. I relearned it when they went and murdered my husband with chemo.

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Emumundo's avatar

I remember taking my dad to chemo and when his doctor asked him how he was, my dad replied- I’ll be fine if I survive the cure. Sadly, he did not.

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T and J's avatar

One answer is that your typical doctor is not as smart as you think . Sorry if that fact distresses you.

And worse, virtually none can think critically.

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Alison Smith's avatar

I realized during covid that my doctor isn’t that smart- my doc types info into the Cleveland clinic computer and the computer spits out a diagnosis. Also, my daughter attended a medical sales course and she learned that the MCAT scores determine what kind of doctor you can become. The smartest become the neurosurgeons and the less smart are the family doctors and pediatricians!

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Peace's avatar

Alison Smith - Doctors have been this way with vaccines for many, many years. Pediatricians are $$ incentivized to vaccinate their patients - to receive the money ($400 per patient) they have to have a certain percentage of their patient population fully vaccinated. Thus the pediatricians are kicking out patients who won't get vaccinated so their percentage isn't pulled out of incentive range.

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FlyingDad's avatar

It’s really a system of belief instead of any real science. Pro-Vaxers today are pretty much a cult.

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Patty's avatar

As a high school nurse, I saw firsthand HPV injured student. They were unable to attend school starting their freshman year because of seizures. Both families suffered bankrupting huge medical bills as well as being humiliated for saying it was the vaccine.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Stunning, frustrating, and very sad. Wow.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Lived it.

Later Jay

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Laura Fisher's avatar

Plus, there are homeopathic “vaccines” that introduce your body to the disease in a non toxic form

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Keeping you serum vitamin d levels high seems to be the best way to prevent serious outcomes from c-19.

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Kitkat's avatar

Back during the height of the scamdemic craziness, I asked my PCP to add Vit D to my blood panel. She said ins won't pay for it and it costs several hundred $ out of pocket. WTH?! They don't want you to know if you're healthy! Plus she kept pushing the clot shot...needless to say, I've since changed docs to a much more sensible one.

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Kinga's avatar

Yes , my family doctor told me the same thing. I have to argued to get the vit. D test in . End of course I didn’t had to pay hundreds of $$$. It’s a scare tactic 😡

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Datagal's avatar

I got a vitamin D test at DirectLab.com for less than $50. This kind of service is excellent for helping you take your health into your own hands.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Corrected the link. Thanks for the tip!

https://directlabs.com/

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cat's avatar

Go outside insurance for Vit D tests. Order online from various labs and sites. We used to order tests from Life Extension too (who sent us to local lab for blood draw).

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Deb's avatar

Can go to Any Lab or fascimilie, 62.00 for Vit D test

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Celayne Jones's avatar

You can get vitamin D tests from small labs for something like $75. You poke your finger and let the blood drop onto some paper, send it in.

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Alison Smith's avatar

How high?I had mine tested and I was above 100 but I think i was taking too much vit. D3

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Fizzygurl's avatar

Nice! Mine is 80. My doc told me to cut back...yeah ok Doc. Also wants to check my plaque in case I need statins because my cholesterol is high..no way Doc. On to a naturopath..

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Alison Smith's avatar

We need cholesterol to coat the myelin in our brain- those without the myelin coating develop Alzheimer's. The whole cholesterol thing is a scam.

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STH's avatar

Fizzy read The Dark Side of Statins or listen to Dr. Diamond on YouTube. You’ll never worry about “high” cholesterol again 😊

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tjsplace's avatar

Also Dr. Ken D. Berry on YouTube. He addresses the cholesterol issue in ways that make sense including his segment on people who limit their carbs--some of those folks tend to have very high LDL which makes their doctors flip out unnecessarily.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

It’s not cholesterol that causes problems, it’s inflammation. But that doesn’t sell statins.

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rolandttg's avatar

Tested twice over the past 2 years. 92, and 125. I wouldn't worry about too high. Too low is the big problem. Cliff High says at least 70, with 50 as a bare minimum,. At least 90 if you have cancer. Most Americans are no more than 30 ng/ml, but your doctor will to you "you are normal". Sadly, you are , if you think normally bad is OK.

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AngelaK's avatar

I am in the Florida sunshine atleast 10 to 15 minutes a day year round without sunscreen on legs and arms, and I take 2000mg D3 a day, and can't break 70! 🤷

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Jacqueline's avatar

Vitamin K is also needed along with D

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes I get K2 with d3 in my algae calcium supplement. I also take additional d3 capsule. My female doctor said to get 2000 in all. (?)

As for the sun exposure: The sun is **way too unforgiving** to consciously be out a half hour in the tropical south Florida sun so the conscious 15 min of walking my dog is a real commitment (and one in which my development's neighbors look at me as if I am crazy to do.)

Some days with errands, I probably clock in 10 more minutes.

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rolandttg's avatar

you need 1/2 per day in the sun at peak sun time. We get all the sun we can, but in VA, son't work half the year at least. So 5000 IU D3+ 200 ? K2 in summer, 10000IU D3 fall and spring, 15,0000IU winter

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I take 4000 a day and can’t break 60. I also took Dr. Livingood’s D with K2 for a year, same number.

No shot, no covid. But had a cold this last January, first in about 8 years!

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Datagal's avatar

I had to go to 10,000 D3 (plus make sure to include K) to get to 90 ng/dl. Keep trying!

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AngelaK's avatar

Same here! No covid, no colds, so maybe our vitamin D is sufficient ?

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Maybe that’s your normal. The “healthy” number is just an average.

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Lanceus's avatar

You might be deficient in magnesium, which can cause decreased vitamin D levels. Most people are magnesium deficient, perhaps due to our depleted soils and poor diets. Fortunately magnesium supplements are inexpensive, but some are more bioavailable, and other formulations can act as a laxative. According to Dr. Mercola and other functional medicine experts, D3, K2, Magnesium, and Calcium all work together and need to be balanced.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I think it was Dr Huber who has a substack page, who recently stated the levels. but remember it are just numbers and probably no one can tell for you personally what your numbers are. It is all man made number abracadabra

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Alison Smith's avatar

I do know that we all should have higher Vit D levels than we have, doctors want us to have low D levels for some reason.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

quite some time ago I read that being outside for about half an hour gives you enough for the day. It seems to be slower when getting older, so I do my best to go out an hour or more, and on nice days, I sit outside reading instead of in. I don't like to take D because it seems to upset my system.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It also depends on where you live and the time of year. I am outside a lot but still had low D levels I think because of being further north and in an area that gets more cloud cover certain times of the year.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

the article stated, that 100 or so years ago, people rarely were inside, except to sleep or when it was raining hard. All had to work the fields, the vegetable garden, no cars, and probably also no way to measure your D ! Now everyone sits inside most of the time except for a holiday, eats stuff sprayed with god knows what, and even when exercising most go to a gym instead of being outside. and doctors measure your everything, finding ways to sell you (prescription) drugs

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Young people can get enough D in 15 minutes, whereas it takes older people an hour to get the same amount, I read somewhere. Another thing, and this was discussed by Dark Horse, is infra-red light. You get that from reflections off of leaves and from camp fires or fires after the leaves fall. My brother who lives in Petaluma and drives a convertible, supplements D heavily.

https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html

An argument for the hypothesis that covid is a bioweapon comes from the fact that insurances and Obamacare used to cover D testing. Eons ago I got a young as yet still Hippocratic Oath resident who put me on a bolus of 50,000 units once a week to bring my levels up. You can get that online easily. I take no pharma at all, but tons of supplements, and he was flabberghasted and said I had the blood work of a 25 year old (that age is so far in the rear view that it is invisible lol) I've also read from FLCCC I think that the gut microbiome is crucial in all this, so you want both D and probiotics (yogurt w/o sugar, saurkraut, fermented foods like kim chi) to prevent all the winter viruses, plus maybe time around a campfire. I got some fire cider, which is an old time winter supplement. Might be time to start burning in effigy for our health lol.

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tjsplace's avatar

I absolutely love the Cabot brand of plain whole-fat, no sugar yogurt. Available in Walmart and a few other stores.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I think Dr Huber takes 10000 like her patients. I tried the combined D3 and K but that did not work at all for me (sore tummy. stomach). My body usually tells me if something works for it or not. Yep 25 is a distant mirror here too LOL. I stopped eating yoghourt for a while because I thought a rash was may be from milk products, but it is from something else, now I eat either yo or take a probiotic daily. I also use handfuls of herbs, thyme, rosemary and chives fresh and all the rest dried. Have to try that Kimchi. People bragged about it but have not tried the recipe yet.

Have not had a cold in at least 15 years.

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Datagal's avatar

D3 makes me wired so I can’t take it at night, only the morning.

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STH's avatar

Dr. Gundry keeps his D between 100-105

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Annie's avatar

Amen. 💯

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Runemasque's avatar

How do I learn about the homeopathic version?

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LoveOur2Dogs's avatar

Highly recommend Dr. Joseph Mercola’s substack. He has excellent recommendations and also discusses politics

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Lanceus's avatar

Mercola has been persecuted by big pharma (and the deep state) for many years because his excellent health advice threatens to bankrupt the corrupt allopathic medical mafia.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Thanks for the idea. Here's the link.

https://substack.com/@takecontrol

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Get on THE NATURAL HEALTH LIBRARY on FB. Whatever Terry & Angie say, DO it! It’s worked like a charm for me

and my friends and fam or years now!

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Peace's avatar

KC & the sunshine - I concur about The Natural Health Library. Great info! They also have a website for those not on FB. https://www.thenaturalhealthlibrary.com/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenaturalhealthlibrary.com%2F&bp-auth=1&action=bpnoaccess

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

They’ve changed

my

life.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

The HPV shot (which they are still pushing for girls as young as nine years old!) is what got me questioning the whole vaccine issue. I thought, if my prepubescent daughter is having sexual relations, I’ve got much bigger problems on my hand than worrying about her possibly getting cervical cancer in her mid 50s.

And then there’s the Hep B Vax for NEWBORNS! We are only two ways to contract hep B: using dirty needles, or having sex with an infected person. And yet they’re giving this vaccine to newborn infants who are only hours old!

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Jay Horton's avatar

"which they are still pushing for girls as young as nine years old!" and they should be shot on the spot! Yeah! I said that.....

Later Jay

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Patty's avatar

The blythe reference to Gillian-Barre' Syndrome caught my eye. In my critical care days, I took care of people with GBS. It is an ascending paralysis starting in the lower legs ascending to the chest. At that level, people cannot breath on their own. The paralysis reverses course. Rehab can take months. This is the course a relative had a few years ago starting with EMS supporting her respirations. Not all experience the same exactly.

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Fred's avatar

Yep; GB with full paralysis has a high mortality rate. And tptb calling the Bell’s GB is more gaslighting. Most know someone who had Bell’s and recovered. Few know (or previously knew) anyone with HTG (honest to goodness) GB. It’s not a minor distinction.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Didn’t they just rename polio to Gillian-Barre’?

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Patty's avatar

I heard that in passing and question the rationale. Poliomyelitis results from poliovirus infection. GBS is a systemic reaction to a virus or some vaccines, but I'm only an RN.

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Kathy's avatar

Ask your father, the doctor, what he knows about antibody dependent enhancement, and the disabling of T cell and P 53 tumor suppressing genes. He needs to start reading!

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Suzanne's avatar

Yep. I’m with my daughter in Loa Angeles now-after being diagnosed with LFS. She had three Moderna jabs.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Suz,

So sorry to hear.

Later Jay

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Suzanne's avatar

I wish there was a way to know if the Mrna actually altered her TP 53 tumor suppressor. Is there a test? How can you know other than speculation?

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IR's avatar

https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/cdc-director-fact-checked-on-myocarditis/

I recommend everyone to watch this clip about how they do the “studies” proving vaccine effectiveness. Watch the whole thing but the most relevant info starts at about 9:00 min. It’s really eye opening and should be considered a fraud. I don’t know how this fraud can pass as science, it’s so egregious! I wish one day this fraud could be exposed in a court of law for everyone to see.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

My God that is a sobering description of how one’s own doctor Dad drank the not so cool-aid and wished death on those that did not. That must be an agonizing state of family affairs for you to cope with Laura.

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Julie Young's avatar

Wow; Laura, good for you for staying strong and protecting your own family!

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Christine Zuleger's avatar

My heart goes out to you 💔🙏🏻✝️

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Celayne Jones's avatar

I am Vaccine Hell No. I have had 4 vaccines in my life and had strange AEs after each one. Of course, they were all “coincidence!” according to the doctors I reported them to. Never ever again.

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Margaret Allison's avatar

No vaxxer here for me and my husband. So sad all that happened to our world ! I remain a 45 year working registered nurse now with a retired license because I disagreed with what they called science and medicine! I’m actually out 55 years and still think medical. Trust is so important when lives are on the line!!!

Thanks, Jeff, for all you do to get the real news out!

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NAB's avatar

I'm sorry, Laura. This must be really hard for you to have this source of contention with your dad. We can pray that he is humble enough to recognize the vile nature of wishing death on un-injected people. That is some dark, dark psychology going on there.

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Lincoln's avatar

But Daddy got paid for each vaccine.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

Gosh! Your own dad wishes you and your family dead for noncompliance? Harsh!

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Patti F's avatar

I fought this one with my now-25 year old daughter and STILL fight it for my 14 year old son. I began questioning vaccines even more intensly 5 years ago when my vaccinated son got whooping cough. When I asked how that could be, I was told "it's only 80% effective". Um THAT never came up when you were shoving needle after needle into his arm!!

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Alison Smith's avatar

My daughter and I visited several Ivy League universities this past weekend, and she told me in the car, "now mom, I had to say that we were covid vaccinated or we couldn't go on the walking tour, so if anyone asks just say we are!" She has come a long way from 3 years ago when she was mad I wouldn't allow her to get the vaccine because she was getting bullied in school for not getting it.

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Patti F's avatar

It boggles my mind that schools are still requiring this poison. My high school aged son wants to go to college but if this continues, I will seriously reconsider encouraging him to go. At least he understands our stand against the vaccine and at 14, agrees with us. Let's hope he's not swayed by friends in the future.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Send him to trade school to become a plumber.

Mine charges $100 just to show up.

....then the real charges add up.

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rolandttg's avatar

when TEOTWAKI hits, tradespeople will still have work. Paper pushers will not.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

This is the truth! And they can refuse to mask out get by without it. We KNOW IT'S TRUE!

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Patti F's avatar

I told him that's his best choice. HE wants to be an astronomer (he's been fascinated with space since he was about 3 years old) and that's not something he can study in trade school. :(

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RunningLogic's avatar

Not everyone is cut out for college, but by the same token, not everyone is cut out for trade school. I would have hated it and not done well, personally. I am just not a manual type of person—I don’t particularly like working with my hands. It might be the same for him. If astronomy is his passion, I would look for a non vax requiring non woke college. They’re rare, but they do exist!

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

He can study Astronomy on his own time, after he makes $$$ doing his day job in the trades. THEN, after he builds up a nice bank account or fully stuffed mattress, if he so chooses, he can take some college courses in Astronomy and PAY FOR THEM OUTRIGHT.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I always felt that kids should not attend college right after high school. They should do gap year, like in Europe, to do other things.

That one year can make a huge difference in how they look at the world.

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CStone's avatar

ALL boys want to be in the ‘space’ program at that age.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Not mine 😆

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Patti F's avatar

He's 14 now and still wants to do that.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

there must be schools who no longer require it! all students, go there! leave the jabbing schools to their cult

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Annie's avatar

My son's university, Wilkes University, didn't mandate it. They couldn't afford to and the area, Wilkes Barre, PA is not a covid zealot area. At the height my son and his friends were out doing all the things college people do. Screw any college that mandates it. They need to go broke.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

good memories of Wilkes-Barre ! My husband was a trucker and we very often stopped at the truckstop there xxx love from GA

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Jacqueline's avatar

Students can usually file an exemption. Schools offer them but make them difficult to find on their websites. They make it look like shots are mandatory. They are not. If they were I would definitely not buy what the school is selling.

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Patti F's avatar

Perfect! Thank you!

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STH's avatar

Patti I can only tell you what I would do. It would be over my dead body before one of my children took a Covid shot. I don’t care if their dream has to change course or be put on hold for a time. The TRUTH is slowly coming out. And no university is worth shortening your life to attend. Lawsuits take time. But they are coming.

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Patti F's avatar

Oh he knows how we feel about it. He wont get one. At least I'd be shocked if he did (once he's 18 - until then it's entirely my decision). I honestly don't think he'd do it.

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Annie's avatar

Are you sure you want to go to such an irrational university? I am pretty sure this way of thinking is at every level and every decision made. Not a good educational atmosphere. 🤔

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Alison Smith's avatar

My daughter is highly gifted and one of the top 3 students in her class at high school. She has a 4.98 grade point average. She needs a very rigorous college education so we are exploring all options. She is afraid to go to Yale because "everyone who goes there is a genius," she says. But so is she! She just doesn't see herself that way.

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Annie's avatar

Ivy league is not what it used to be. I wish her the best. 🥰

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Cathy's avatar

Sad to hear she was bullied over a vaccine!

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Cathy's avatar

Not over a vaccine. That was my point. I should have clarified my statement.

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rolandttg's avatar

good for you. wish more parents stood up for their children.

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Kittykat's avatar

This is terrifying. That universities are still pushing the shot. I fear this is in prep for the new bio tech health tyranny being set up at the WHO where vaccine status will determine who is allowed to participate in basic activities. When that occurs they can put anything into the mystery shots. Moreover the WHO and it’s members have no legal liability for any harms, nor do they have a process for accountability. It’s all gain and no risk for the pharmaceutical companies involved. A recipe for death and destruction paid for by its victims.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

What good is the walking tour if she won’t be allowed to attend?

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Peace's avatar

Alison SMith - Does this mean that the Ivy League university will require Covid vaccine to enroll?

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Alison Smith's avatar

Some might. I have a website that tracks college vaccine mandates that we have been going by. We won't know where my daughter is accepted until March. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11BrDadiUGN-vQBe7Jolcb_-aWhLT7S2AkWOkSX49M40/edit#gid=1644453428

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MarshaLouise's avatar

She’s been taught well. Great mom!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

and the later in life you get these children's diseases, the more dangerous they are. on top of it all, if you had it as a kid, you are mostly immune for life (unless the virus changes too far off the one you had, which seems to occur with the vaccinated) and women give the immunity to their child. Kids in school would get it all at once and that would give them herd immunity. As far as I read, herd immunity does not come through vaxxing. Most of what the 'experts' tell are lies.

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Peace's avatar

Childhood diseases are not always more dangerous later in life. My fifth grade child gave me chickenpox. It was a very mild case and had to go to the doctor to get it for sure diagnosed.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

that is good to know. I know someone who got measles as an adult and was really sick. I heard second hand that whooping cough is terrible. It was terrible when I was 4 years old too though!

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Kathy's avatar

So sad that your 14 year old son is brainwashed to the point where he listens to them and not you. But I know that’s all part of their plan. separate the kids from the parents.

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STH's avatar

Per Del Bigtree and The Highwire, pertussis portion of Dtap doesn’t stop you from getting whooping cough. It turns you into an asymptotic spreader. 😳

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Patti F's avatar

Well it caused my son to get it. We are not aware of anyone getting it from him, thankfully. But we never did find out where HE caught it. He was the only known case (that we were told of) in the area. Interesting.

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SAME!!! And I thank GOD for that 6th sense that told me to RUN from the “hard sell” the pediatrician was giving. That vax, Gardisil 1, proved so dangerous they aren’t even using it in the US anymore. Gardisil 9 and a couple

others are still used, and are better but worthless as far as preventing a cancer that shows up in your 40’s-50’s, that is highly treatable. Another “cure is worse than the disease” thing. This vax has rendered girls as young as 12 INFERTILE for LIFE. That’s one way to prevent certain cancers, I guess.

Everyone read DISSOLVING ILLUSIONS and TURTLES ALL the WAY DOEN, A VACCINE MYTH… There are 2 books with the same turtle title so BE AWARE.

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JSR's avatar

I actually ordered the other by mistake, but it was a great read 😂

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I sometimes wonder if “they” did that on purpose to skew the sales.

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Emily Ron's avatar

Yes, such a great book!!!

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Lisa A Anstett's avatar

We stopped at 12 year old DTP. I asked about getting titers and the answers were not confidence-producing. Thinking back, since they were born prematurely, almost every medical intervention has resulted in an issue. Tried to weigh pros and cons the whole time. I see mostly cons now.

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CGL's avatar

Amen. I will never take another vaccine again. Wish I known what I know now when my kids were little.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Me too.

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Randy Little's avatar

Never-Vaxxer. Has a nice ring to it. Count us in!

Instead of shots and drugs, let’s be proactive in healthy lifestyle through diet, exercise, mindset, supplements, etc.

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Jen's avatar

I'm now a never-vaxxer as well. I don't trust any of them anymore. These people lie about everything. Not only that, they've given themselves zero liability. If these products are so safe, why are they unwilling to be held accountable? They're liable for poor outcomes from pills, why not this?

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My mother has an exceedingly rare, aggressive form of Uterine cancer. Less than 200 people EVER diagnosed with it and most of those 200 are already dead. She was diagnosed late 2019, followed by a radical hysterectomy, radiation and chemotherapy. She's been clear of any recurrence....until now. Treated and scanned at MD Anderson since diagnosis, she's had a total of 4 Covid shots because she follows their instructions to a "T" and of course MD Anderson touts the jabs.

We met with her oncologist last Thursday to cover what her treatment plan might look like to try to buy her as much time as possible as her cancer has recently reappeared in her lungs and she's been given an 18ish month timeline for survival - WITH treatment.

I asked the head of gynecological oncology specifically about the jabs and the suspicion that they could be causing Turbo Cancer cases. She basically rolled her eyes at me, told me the MRNA technology has the potential to HELP cancer patients and then recommended my mom get ANOTHER Covid Jab. I'm so pissed. It is infuriating, to say the least.

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Jen's avatar

I'm so sorry, that would be absolutely infuriating. I really hope one day these people are called to account for these sins. So many people have been hurt by this refusal to look at the truth.

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Alison Kratish's avatar

Adding: Yes, I recorded the entire conversation and listened to it afterward to make sure I didn't misunderstand. I didn't....She pushed the jab and doubted the turbo cancer situation is happening. Unbelievable.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

It’s good you are by her side. The medical mafia is so brainwashed !

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Alison Kratish's avatar

Though it won't do any good to be by her side if MD Anderson keeps telling her she needs the vax. I've tried to present the evidence we have access to here on C&C. She will not even read it.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Start playing at recording of dr Peter McCollough at the next visit. Worth a try. He spoke up recently theater it’s not safe for anyone.

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Betsy's avatar

They have all been indoctrinated, but for a very few.

I'll pray for your mom. 🙏 And certainly for you also. 🙏

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Alison Kratish's avatar

Thank you.

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Lincoln's avatar

Sad fact...no jab...no treatment. My unjabbed but masked husband could not even sit in the lobby of the oncology center in California when he drove his sister 1.5 hours to the Adventist Health center. They made him sit on a bench outside and wait. Those people are flippin’ nuts.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They lie and also profit from them! Why would we trust them now, knowing that??

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

at least all the illegals could come in unvaxxed. not so if you immigrate legally - you must take the 7 shots (probably those the govt has the patents for) Had no idea until they started punching my arm. Had to redo, luckily the Belgian doc only gave me 4. Last shot s ever.

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Ruta's avatar

Same here ! Never vaxxer after these "welcome to usa" shots- I am having all kinds of health issues since then (2006). Started to get suspiciuos and avoided any extra poison that they tried to push - like annual flu shot. When the newest covid poison came to the market I already knew to avoid it at all costs. I am glad I did protect myself and my family as well.

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Betsy's avatar

Smart!!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

mine are limited to some more allergy, but mastering it with histaminum homeopathic tablet

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I...I don't know what to say to you! 😭 Welcome to the USA! 😭 There's no better place to be. 😭

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

LOL RJ you have no idea how happy I am to be here, now that Europe has gone down the ditch! I found me a place far away, out of a quiet village in the woods. I got a lovely dog and 2 cats and feed a gazillion American birds. I am quite happy! I have also been welcomed sincerely by most (with a few exceptions, who have been wholeheartedly forgiven since I know what is going on). I have looked at other places, but unless it gets real bad, I am not leaving. Who knows, what happens in these other places in the next few years? (Mexico electing a Soros pres next year, El Salvador maybe, but I will need to learn Spanish, Croatia, but only know 4 words of that language, Hungary, No Way language, LOL. Heaven is where your heart is and mine is here now, in the woods in GA.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I'm jealous! 😁

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David Bishop's avatar

Hopefully you don't vaccinate your pets.

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Kathy's avatar

Wow, that sucks. So sorry they jabbed you.

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Annie's avatar

Yes. Never again. And proud of it! 👍

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

No longer any vax ever again! I was already coming to this conclusion because I found out I have 2 mthfr mutations and can't properly detox. Don't get me started on how many babies the USG has murdered through the fda requirements to "enrich" many foods with folic acid. It's unnatural poison and we have millions of miscarriages because of it. Kyrie Eleison!

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unsolicited advice: avoid enriched flours as those with mthfr mutations can't process the added folic acid properly. Take methylfolate such as Doctor's Best with Quatrefolic.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

Thanks cat! I do!

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Emumundo's avatar

I’m leery of any shot, much less vaccines. I’ve heard disturbing info about shots for local anesthesia. I need to get some minor things done but I keep putting them off because I don’t want any kind of a shot. Who knows what’s in anything anymore? I read a link yesterday about PEG and polysorbate and that stuff is in everything.

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Peace's avatar

Yes PEG is a neurotoxin, and just happens to be in at least one of the C-19 jabs. Stay far away! It's in Miralax and has damaged many children who suffer from constipation. Docs typically only offer Miralax to all ages, even though the label states it's for 17 and over.

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Lisa P's avatar

I've been a Never vaxxer for 30 years, almost 2/3 of my life.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

“But be on guard, so that your hearts will not be overcome with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon all those who inhabit the face of all the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying earnestly that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

— Jesus, Luke 21:34-36 LSB

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Jenn's avatar

Thank you for your Bible verse quote today. Even though it's pretty dark and stormy times these days, I trust in God's perfect timing! 🙏🏻🙌🏻

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I love that the passage tells us that escape is possible.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And unlike the Americans trapped in Israel 😑 we won’t have to pay for our passage because Jesus has already paid the price for us 🙏❤️

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Jenn's avatar

Yes! And that is incredibly comforting indeed.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I’m counting on not being here! I am also thankful we didn’t get sucked into the insanity.

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The Cactus's avatar

“To stand before the Son of Man.” What an incredible thought.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I picture myself flat on my face.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

"And the flights’ final destination will be Pyongyang."😂.

Unbelievable that our government would make those rescued repay the US when we have senators taking trips to Ukraine on tax dollars. I'd rather my tax dollars help to rescue fellow citizens from a terrorist stricken area.

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Lew's avatar

Trade senators for hostages!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!!! Also feel the same way!!

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shayne's avatar

Ukraine has bucket loads of crap on Biden... if he doesn't deliver the goods they will spill the ugly truth. Sowing and reaping comes to mind. Sadly it's the American taxpayer who pays the price.

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Oh Susanna's avatar

Well, they created another never-vaxxer here, from someone who used to think anti-vaxxers were crazy.

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Kathy's avatar

Welcome to our ranks!

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Patti F's avatar

"If experts like Dr. Makary concluded Public Health lied this much about covid vaccines, who knows how much they’ve been lying about every other so-called vaccine?"

And THIS is exactly why I will never get another vaccine, and neither will my 14 year old son, as long as I have control over what he receives. I seriously, seriously regret getting both of my kids vaccinated for anything, ever.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

My four year old grandson is going to be evaluated to see if he suffers from ADHD or autism. I am heartbroken. I cringe when I see a young couple at church with their newborn. Will their pediatrician destroy the innocent child's life? Should I say something? It feels so much like I am inserting myself into someone else's business, but we need to stop injuries such as the one to this beautiful, innocent 7 year old. Children's Health Defense is compiling these sad stories. https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/events/the-chd-bus-tour/i-am-my-sons-voice-pa/

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Lots of talk about childhood vaccines being the cause of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.

A police officer in Canada was totally persecuted when she started to investigate the correlation.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

When I was about 12, in the mid-sixties, my cousin's beautiful little girl died of SIDS. I have always remembered seeing her in her coffin, looking like she was just asleep. I have wondered in recent years if she was killed by childhood vaccines. A google search reveals the MMR was given then.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I can't even imagine the horror parents will feel if they find out the death of their child was only a few days after a childhood vaccination.

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STH's avatar

Yes SIDS down 30% during the pandemic when babies were missing their shot appointments.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, that should be a huge wake up call.

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Peace's avatar

"Coincidentally" the rate of SIDS dropped quite dramatically during/after lockdown days of Covid when families were not going to the "well child" visits where vaxxes are administered.

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Fred's avatar

I don’t remember which ones, but the package insert on at least some include SIDS as a possible SE. 🤬

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Oh geez...trouble is, no one is given the package insert when they receive the shot.

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Fred's avatar

I’d like to plaster that image of her being arrested on every signpost!

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Patti F's avatar

My niece had a baby in March. She was against this newest vaccine until she got married and wanted to go to a country that required it for admission. So she got it. I'm sure she got ALL the shots for her baby too. She just threw all of her initial thoughts out the window for convenience. It's heartbreaking.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I talked to our daughter-in-law about the covid shot. She and my son got one shot because my son thought his ex would not let him see his children if he did not. I did not believe the autism connection to childhood vaccines until the covid plandemic opened my eyes. I was not confident enough until recently to say much to my daughter-in-law about childhood vaccines and my son has not seemed willing to discuss it.

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Patti F's avatar

I agree about the covid plandemic opening eyes. It's all been a HUGE eye opener!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

something good came out of this disaster. lots of parents will stop poisoning their children. a few days ago a EXpose article stated that childhood disease had dropped by 30 % because kids did NOT go to the doctor. As Dr Coleman stated long ago - beware, your doctor can kill you

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Annie's avatar

And that's such a sad statement. Kids are healthier not going to the doctor. Wow! 🤯

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Here are just SOME of the harmful ingredients present in routine vaccines - someone called poison center and read them to the operator (hilarious)

https://expose-news.com/2023/10/14/some-of-the-harmful-ingredients-in-routine-vaccines/?cmid=01c8b309-32f2-419c-9c8e-70e7045c787c

here is the drop in childhood deathsDuring “lockdowns” when American parents couldn’t take their children for routine vaccinations, childhood mortality dropped by 30%. Coincidence?

https://expose-news.com/2023/10/15/when-parents-couldnt-take-their-children-for-routine/

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Annie's avatar

It is just sickening 😪

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rolandttg's avatar

The Admitted third leading cause of death are medical mistakes, and I posit it is the first, because most cancer deaths should be classified as doctor induced. Stay away from doctors if you want to remain healthy, and now we all know to stay away from kill center hospitals even more diligently.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

you are absolutely right. It is probably by far the leading cause of death. Apart from the known mistakes, there are indeed, the cut-burn-poison 'oncologists' (I know from one, that his grandfather in disgust quit the allopathic meds and went back to traditional, but he got into allopathic nonetheless), the drug and needle pushers, all those that do not treat patients for the problem at hand but keep on prescribing garbage, all those that do not study any food or herbals (most of them and they have to do this on their own, because it is not taught in med school), and all those that treat patients stereotypically. A human is unique, but hardly any doc realizes that so it seems. What helped you might kill me!

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Fred's avatar

Was researching CH vaxxes for new grandchild and rapidly went from a select few to zero (possible exception of tetanus later in life).

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

Maybe try a book. I’ve just ordered “the vaccine friendly plan” by Dr Paul Thomas. I can’t recommend it as I’ve not received it yet but I think it might be a way to open dialogue about the “over” vaccination of children. Worth looking into.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

He's a great guy and has paid a heavy price for the stance he has taken.

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STH's avatar

It’s a good book IF you live in a state with zero exemptions but Dr. Thomas has said many times it’s not friendly enough! It’s a compromise only. And he did have vaccine injured children in his practice using the spread out schedule. Just not as many.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

And look into Homeopathy for treating children who have been vaccinated, https://www.betternutrition.com/departments/vaccination-homeopathy/

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rolandttg's avatar

I think there are few people who have not shared some version of this tragedy. Sadly, there is only so much anyone can do, and we have to accept the fact there is going to be a steady wave of injured and dead loved ones . The blogger I respect most, Bix Weir, and who has never given bum advice (I'm 70, and I can count on one hand with fingers letter over people I can say this about ) lost his dad recently to repeated jabs. Bix just could not talk him out of it, knew it was coming . We are in a war to end all wars, finally.

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Fred's avatar

Late to the party here too; never ? the “link has been debunked” until the last 3 years. Now they’re even forced to admit the autism link “in some susceptible individuals.” 🤬

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STH's avatar

Yes Fred the MTHFR gene mutation can increase the likelihood of vaccine damage. What they rarely mention is 50% of the population carries at least one mutation. So not that rare at all.

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Fred's avatar

Never to late to stop. McCullough makes a good point that risk seems to increase with frequency.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Maybe she would be willing to treat her child with homeopathy to clear the vaccines impact. I didn’t have time to find a excellent link for you, but this one is a start. .https://www.betternutrition.com/departments/vaccination-homeopathy/

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I am about half way through "Vax/Unvax". It has lots of graphs and explains the statistical practices for the lay person. It is a relatively quick read and laid out well for short reading sessions. I would recommend trying it as a gift to expectant parents. "I would love your opinion on this book, it has made me reconsider some things. Please read it and get back to me, oh, and keep it for future reference."

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Great idea! I ordered that book recently, but have not read it yet. I also have Turtles All the Way Down. I'm amassing quite the pile of books connected with covid, the gene therapy shots and other vaccines. I like supporting those who have shown integrity during this time. The Truth About Wuhan, by Andrew Huff, is the story of his persecution by our government after he exposed what happened at EcoHealth. It is truly frightening to realize the lengths our own government will go to in order to try to silence us.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Us too! We are buying them all in hard copy so they can't be "memory-holed." "The War on Ivermectin" is a good one as well. It details Dr. Kory's journey from standard medical school dogma to eyes-wide-open realization of pharma capture. Anything by Dr. Colleen Huber is good. "The Defeat of Covid" was an early compendium of what was known (outside of the alphabet agencies), and "Neither Safe Nor Effective" is now in its second edition and about triple the original length. The original is still available last I checked for about $10 on Amazon. We have "Turtles All The Way Down" but I haven't started it yet.

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The books that started it all for us were Dr. Suzanne Humphries' "Rising from the Dead" and "Dissolving Illusions." "Rising From the Dead" is her story of how she came to suspect the flu shot was injuring her kidney patients. She gives her background, education, and her personal journey. "Dissolving Illusions" details her research into vaxxes and how allopathic medicine has completely forgotten (or ignores) the history and damage done by vaxxes. One does not need to read "Rising From the Dead" to comprehend the material in Dissolving Illusions, but I benefited from reading it first, because it gives such great insight into how she came to intensely research the history, effect, and damage of vaxxes.

Also recommend "The Poisoned Needle" by Eleanor McBean, written in 1956 or '57 - I was just astounded by how much it tracks with what is going on today. I guess "the more things change, the more they stay the same."

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Thank you! Have you read Naomi Wolf's book, The Bodies of Others? Ed Dowd's Cause Unknown?

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Ed Dowd's, yes, Naomi Wolf's, no. If what Ed Dowd is saying is true then I don't know how the insurance companies are staying afloat. I suspect they are being quietly subsidized. When you have trillions of taxpayer dollars it seems simple to slide a few billion over to offset any losses and keep peoples' mouths shut.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

We have "The Bodies of Others" in our stack of books to read, along with "Turtles All the Way Down."

Naomi did a podcast with Ed - I have seen just a snippet of it - also on the read/watch list.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Anne Clifton's avatar

When I read Dr. Kory's book, I told my husband it captured his personality so well! I thought I knew most of the story, but learned the suppression was worse than I thought. We were privileged to meet Drs. Kory, Marik, Berkowitz, and Syed (better known as Dr. Been) last year.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for this recommendation!

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Lilibet's avatar

My son received all childhood jabs, was adhd. My eyes have been opened to jab-injury since, and I have tried to convince his wife to be more open-minded about not giving jabs to their son so as to avoid his father's trials, to no avail. I am considered a "meddler" because of my concern, so I am now silent (except in my prayers to God for some miraculous revelation). 💔

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Maybe she would be willing to treat her child with homeopathy to clear the vaccines impact. I didn’t have time to find a excellent link for you, but this one is a start. .https://www.betternutrition.com/departments/vaccination-homeopathy/

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Fred's avatar

So sorry!

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JSR's avatar

I carry business cards from https://learntherisk.org/ and put them Everywhere!! Bathrooms, magazines when I travel... stores...

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AJoy's avatar

I have similar stickers I’ve printed off the CHD website and put them everywhere as well!

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STH's avatar

JSR that’s a great idea!

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I used to hide the covid vaccine info sheets that were in the lobby of the library. Aware that there may be cameras, I would pick up another brochure and then place it in front of the covid sheets.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I have two on the spectrum and one also with ADHD. Neither had childhood vaxx until one round when the oldest was 11/12, and the other was 7. I was afraid the Dr and nurses weren't going to let me go home with my children if we didn't. I held out for... Not long enough and the pressure was intense. I panicked. 😭 Still, I don't believe that was the cause. I home schooled and they have thrived well and the younger is married with children and supporting his family very well. The older is thriving. She's a wonderful support for us in our old age. ♥️

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Vaccines are one risk factor for health issues, but we also eat a lot of stuff that is of questionable quality and unknown effects.

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STH's avatar

I know Anne. I feel the same way whenever I see a baby. If it’s in your budget maybe buy a few extra copies of Turtles All The Way Down and give them a copy?

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

When I see kids in masks at the store with their parents, also in masks, I struggle not to scream or cry.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Homeopathy has a proven track record of successfully treating vaccine injury. It can be like a miracle!

https://vaccineimpact.com/2015/healing-from-vaccine-injuries-through-homeopathy/

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rolandttg's avatar

listen to RFK Jr. and you will know it has always been this way. Not one vaccine tested against a real placebo, just tested against some other vaccine or chemical. I think the placebo for HPV was aluminum, so the side effects were the same for both. The only way big Pharma got their blanket forever immunity for jabs was by telling Reagan it is impossible to make a safe vaccine. From the horses' mouth, for all the sheep calling you an anti vaxxer.

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Kathy Owensby's avatar

Agreed 100%! My daughter is now doing her own research thanks to Candace Owens series on vaccines. The pushback she got from her pediatrician about vaccing her third child was incredible. Wow. I told her to find a friendlier pediatrician.

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Kathy's avatar

You might find a list of more open minded doctors for your state on the FLCCC website.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Excellent idea, but so far just getting the runaround on the website. ‘We haven’t verified the doctors, yada yada, it’s up to you to ask about their practices’

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Peace's avatar

I would skip pediatricians altogether and get everyone to a family physician (or better yet a naturopath of some sort). Pediatricians are paid $400 per "scalp" if they can get a certain percentage (63%) of their patients to be fully vaccinated. If they don't reach that percentage, they miss out on the $$$ "incentive" This is a large part of why the jabs are pushed so hard and families are kicked out of pediatric practices to help reach their percentage goal. See page 15 from the BCBS incentive document (from 2016) https://web.archive.org/web/20160621144937/http://thephysicianalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2016-BCN-BCBSM-Incentive-Program-Booklet.pdf

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STH's avatar

That Candace series on Getter is fantastic!

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

This. 💯‼️

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ChrisB's avatar

'Egyptian President Abdel something-something el-Sisi bargained harder than a Turkish rug merchant.' 😂😂😂

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Kathy's avatar

That was a classic Jeff-ism!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

If ANYONE thinks they can out-bargain a Middle Eastern, they're wrong. These people been doing this for millennia

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

"As official numbers continue trickling in"

Yes. The same MSM that tells us the truth about covid and the shots are now telling us the truth about Israel.

Ri-i-i-ght.

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M. Joseph's avatar

"Believe the War Propoganda! This time we are totally telling you the truth."

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

I generally ask: When did they start telling us the truth? Was it before WWI? Was it between WWI and WWII? Was it after WWII. Or have they ALWAYS lied to us?

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Annie's avatar

I am going with always

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Kathy's avatar

If you listen to Dr. David Martin, he says that we began our bio weapons programs right after World War II. Even invited some Nazi scientists and Japanese scientists to help us develop them.

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Politico Phil's avatar

My question is, "When did we start believing them?" Americans used to be very skeptical of the Gov't. And the news media used to be a very critical Fourth Estate.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

The perniciousness wasn't as glaringly obvious until around the 70's, but rest assured that print media has long been hijacked. Nowadays, after decades of continual media torture (like the water torture drips), we have finally succumb to the Bernayszian, non-stop brainwashing.

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Annie's avatar

You can do it! Flatten the curve! We are in this together! BS!

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Annie's avatar

I know. I told one of my unvaxxed friends - "you are gonna believe the media and government now!?" Snapped them right out of this entire psyops.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

The cognitive dissonance is unbelievable, especially with smart people like Jeff.

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rolandttg's avatar

That's what blew me away about all of the Americans buying their Russia bad Ukraine good narrative. Most conservatives know they MSM all lied about the 2020 vote fraud, yet now they believe they are telling the truth about this conflict?

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

If the talking heads are talking, they are lying. Prove me wrong. On virtually any subject.

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Lon Guyland's avatar

I have converted to the never-vaxx perspective. For a long time I thought anti-vaxxers were a little bit wacky, but recent revelations have completely convinced me that there’s a great deal of truth in the “never-vax” case. Maybe that’s the silver lining in all this: the poison that “vaccines” actually are is being exposed to more and more parents who will then rightly reject them.

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Kim's avatar

I will NEVER, under any circumstances, get another vaccine or another "vaccine" either. None. Period. Done.

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Bridget Ingram's avatar

Me, too!!

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Albert Steed's avatar

I’m with you Jeff. No needles for me or mine.

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Janet's avatar

Yup. Over My Dead Body--Vaxxer.

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King Cavalier II's avatar

That's a double entendre of epic proportions.

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Janet's avatar

Yeah.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. But it won’t be the jabs that kill me. Maybe driving to the gym at 100 and missing a stop sign. I’ll settle for that.

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

I will die when one of my kids unplug my life support machine to charge their phone. 🤣🤣🤣

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King Cavalier II's avatar

I think I have seen you; applying make-up while sipping a double Americano and simultaneously putting your hair in a ponytail.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Wait, you both live in Seattle?

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Janet's avatar

Haha. I don’t have enough hair at my age to get into a ponytail, darn it.!!! The americano maybe. Triple shot. No wussie soy, light latte with whipped fake on the rocks, slathered HFCS drip macchiato Gates additives. 💪🏻💪🏻

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Christy's avatar

So with you Janet!!!

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I agree! No more vax’s! Everyone in my age group is getting flu plus shingle shot, I had shingles in my 20’s...I’m NOT taking that!

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FourWinds's avatar

I am definitely a never-vaxxer. None of that, ever, for any illness. I trust my immune system, and should that fail (unlikely!) I trust natural anti-virals. I'm also a never-doctor-goer, never-hospital-patient, never-tester, and never-sheep. If I break a bone that is sticking out, that may be different. Otherwise, no. No trust. Never again. Ever. And I know I'm not alone.

Serious standing ovation for Governor DeSantis.... again! And shame on the US government for not taking care of its own citizens unless they are willing to pay for it. Unbelievable! The entire US government needs to go. Name something positive they've done lately. I'll wait.

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Oliver Closov's avatar

Please bring back the red "X" for those who "died suddenly".

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Freedom Fox's avatar

The Biden "I Did That" sticker used on gas pumps would be a nice touch.

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RunningLogic's avatar

With Fauci instead!

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OnTheJump's avatar

ohhhh.....I like THAT !

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Just ordered more stickers

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SeeingTruth's avatar

I'm with you Jeff!

Injured from the TDaP. Never again with any of it! When I shared what happened to me with the TDaP, my Cleveland Clinic internist laughed at me when I stated I was never going to get another one and then he said "we'll talk about it when it's time for your next one". I will add that his old school nurse who had retired by this point previously told me not to get anymore. She knew.

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AngelaK's avatar

How utterly infuriating! He laughed at you instead of understanding and compassion!

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Annie's avatar

Tell him to get his 5th booster. Dr. Hotez said so. 😉

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SeeingTruth's avatar

He probably already did! What was really crazy was that in his Clinic bio after the shots rolled out, suddenly in addition to being an internist he also specialized in cardiology. If this was a system error, it stayed that way for a very long time. Coincidence? I think not.

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Annie's avatar

Wow. Just wow. 😳

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Fizzygurl's avatar

But Hotez turned down the latest booster...said he didn’t need it.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Extremely infuriating! I have had little trust in the medical system my entire life starting as a kid, and that completely pushed me over the edge. I shared my vax injury story at the CHD bus - unfortunately in the moment I forgot to share the "laughing" part of it - huge regret!

I will add that I started seeing this dr in the mid 90s shortly after his residency. He was great! It has been sadly interesting to see how the Cleveland Clinic system changed him over the years. I don't know if the retirement of his old school nurse impacted him - if she was a voice of reason.

My husband saw him early Jan 2022 when Cleveland reportedly had the highest cv outbreak in the country. Approx 2000 Cleveland Clinic workers were out sick with cv at that time. And yet, this dr was trying to sell my husband on the shots. His new nurse announced to my husband that she waited until the last minute to get the shots due to the mandates. Then the doc came in and pushed them. Felt like a good cop, bad cop ploy to me. Nurses in their system were injured and I know of one who died. Shame on them!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, it’s disgusting and infuriating!!! 🤬

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Kathy's avatar

One of my least favorite things on earth is a patronizing doctor! I have zero tolerance for even a whiff of that!

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SeeingTruth's avatar

A billion percent agree!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Would you mind sharing?

Every time I see my PCP, I get the push to receive an updated TDaP.

I took the over-65 pneumonia shot and had vision problems for 18 months and I still have balance problems.

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Becky's avatar

Plus one. Our PhD economist friend got the pneumonia shot when he retired, and struggled with vision and balance problems for a year. As he was telling us about it, he was quite dismissive and jokey, as if such effects were to be expected or something. Just par for the course. No.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thanks for the details. I got the over-65 pneumonia shot in Jan 2020 and then the pandemic hit. Didn't make the connection at first with the shot and my problems.

The fact that your friend had the same health problems that I had, shows me that vision and balance problems are common. Any over-65 shots are like 3-4 times stronger than the regular shots.

To have vision and balance problems after the shot, proves to me that those harmful ingredients crossed the blood brain barrier.

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Becky's avatar

I used to scoff at people who said the medical industry wants us sick so it can profit from our illness. But perhaps there is a weird phenomenon where individual doctors sincerely want to help people and sincerely believe that promoting the shots is doing so. Then when the disease is contracted by their patients anyway, or life-ruining side effects are glaringly caused by the vaccine meant to prevent the disease, the doctor makes a complete shift to “helping” by treating those things, while at the same time remaining steadfast in the belief the vaccines are good (though not 100% effective) and denying or downplaying the role of the vaccine in causing the side effects. Thus, the doctor gets an unbroken chain of feeling like they are “helping.”

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Kind of like Stockholm Syndrome.

"I'm gonna hold you hostage...but I will give you water and take your blindfold off once a day"

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Becky's avatar

Yes, and the hard part is that we all will have illnesses and accidents and need the help of doctors to survive. So we can’t escape entirely. Deciding to stay away from them entirely can backfire horribly.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Dr. Suneel Dhand, an East Indian lifestyle medicine doctor, who has a channel on youtube, says American intensivist medicine is the best in the world, but the rest of medicine is so corrupted by pharma that one is better off staying away completely. Luckily, we have brilliant doctors in the resistance who are finding cures they might never have found if it were not for the corruption.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

I'm so sorry you're having issues. Hope you can get some help from one of the flccc docs or a good nd.

My story is last - I first talk about the cv shots. A friend of mine saw this and it helped her understand what happened to her after she got the tdap.

When my autoimmune thyroid issue showed up after the tdap - hashimotos - although now it's been correctly diagnosed as hashitoxicosis - it presented very oddly with burning feet and burning mouth syndrome which is "rare". Another proof to me about the shot's impact.

I encourage you to see if the CHD bus is coming near you and share your story. You're already injured by the pneumonia shot - I would love to say that alone would be enough evidence for your pcp. Who knows, maybe it will be enough this time. We can hope. If not, just say no and maybe find another dr.

https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/events/the-chd-bus-tour/covid-shots-and-tdap-ohio/

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thanks for the details.

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STH's avatar

Before I fired my GP I had my Naturopath run a titer (bloodtest) for me for tetanus. So I could honestly tell her I don’t need one when she would recommend it. My antibodies are still going strong and I haven’t had a tetanus shot since 2010. I don’t know why more people don’t do titers instead of automatically revaccinating? I’m now a never vaxxer so the point is moot.

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Dr Tara Slatton's avatar

Fairly recently a study came out that was surprisingly well covered that showed immunity for tetanus shots likely lasts about thirty years...

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

I have thought, long before covid, that medical schools give seminars in how to blow off patients' concerns about drugs and discussions of supplements. Probably utilizing the same nudge psyop techniques that we get subjected to via the media and advertising and social media. I've watched really strange reactions in doctors in which they either ignore you or hand wave you off in order to keep dispensing prescriptions. I brought a thyroid book in to Dr. Feather Boa, as I called her, and she shined that on completely, and kept dispensing prescriptions like a deciduous tree in autumn.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I think mine was a mmr booster in 2001. Gaslit & ignored for years by insurance dictated doctors.

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Diane Negvesky's avatar

Why would Suzanne Somers have vaxed herself when she used alternative therapies to manage her breast cancer for such a long time? Did she vax herself? No one is saying. It’s just sad watching this happen.

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LisaF's avatar

It’s possible. I know of several alternative health friends who went off the deep end with the specific issue.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I know quite a few. everything super healthy, no plastic wrappers, all organic, and then hop, jab the witches brew. Unreal.

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Annie's avatar

Yes. The health food store crowd has all the "I only buy organic non-gmo stuff" but couldn't wait to mask up and shoot up the clot shots. Ironic they are totally gmo now. 😝🤔

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

when on the farmer's market, I was told that 'organic' in the store means, only treated with the legal amount of poisons. She had to go through a rough process that took years, to get the label, and told me how much fake there was.

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NAB's avatar

It was a strange paradox, for sure.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I know a person who was very upset by plastic straws become a masked Nazi...considering the masks cannot be recycled.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes and seeing all the masks on the ground and in the water everywhere makes me so angry when I think of the hissy fits about straws and everything else but masks… crickets… 🙄🙄🙄

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Peace's avatar

Must you say "crickets"? With the push for cricket flour, cricket chocolates, etc. we'll need to find another chirpy type of insect. May t"ree frogs" could sub for "crickets"? :)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Peepers? 😁

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_peeper

Let’s avoid the insects altogether!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

The Whole Foods shoppers, with masks on

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Not to mention, the "health food" stores were the BIGGEST mask Nazis of all. I was actually ASSAULTED by an employee in a Sprouts here in SoCal.

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Diane Negvesky's avatar

Me too. My triathlete family member just got boosted. I find it shocking their trust in government propaganda and not anything a family member who has done research tries to tell them. You know, I love her. I want her to live. It just seems like they want to get on with their lives with the illusion of a safety bubble around them when it’s just the opposite.

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Kathy's avatar

Yes, and I know one here in our town who gave a friend of mine a really hard time who is already riddled with auto immune diseases. If she had listened to him, she probably would’ve ended up in a wheelchair. Thank God she didn’t, and took ivermectin when she got Covid and did very well.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I know a Christian Scientist who got vaxed because her daughter pleaded with her. She’s in her mid 70’s. One good thing is she wouldn’t wear a mask.

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SPONGEWORTHY47's avatar

OMG...my thoughts exactly. I had a wierd inkling about her a few days ago so i looked up her youtube channel...she was cooking a meal with her family and LOOKED JUST FINE. Don't know why i was compelled to search. Now the "story" is some old cancer returned???? looks like "died suddenly" to me...

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AJoy's avatar

I read she was jabbed I think on her Insta account

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Amy M Castro's avatar

Is this confirmed that she took the vax? I find that off considering her health approach

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

consider all these vegetarians that got the jabs, and that take all other vaccines as well. they do not eat meat, some not even eggs, but they let themselves be injected with egg matter, dog kidney cells, ape viruses, and cells from unborn foetuses. What have they got to say about that? Is that vegetarian?

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Lew's avatar

"I'm a vegan!" So, you don't use any animal products? "Well, I eat some fish but I got 2 vax and double boosters!" But fish aren't vegetables and vax contain assorted animal proteins. "Hey, you're making me feel unsafe with these microaggressions. Can't you see I'm signaling virtues?"

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

reading the ingredients on vegan 'saucages' and 'meatballs' made me put them back quickly

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Sunlover's avatar

I was intrigued when beyond meat Pattie’s came out. I have nut allergies so a lot of veggie patties are not safe for me. I read the ingredients on the back and put it back. So many non pronounceable chemicals...nope I will stick to grass fed beef.

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Kathy's avatar

Yes, and all the people who were very concerned about GMO produce. They let themselves become a GMO!

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LuAnne's avatar

I don't know if she took the jabs or not. If she did, she kept it to herself and didn't announce it or try to push it on other people. That, to me, makes her a decent & considerate person.

I tend to think she didn't get the jabs just based on the fact she was totally into holistic & natural treatments for many years. She did say that during her many years of cancer treatments, she did some conventional treatments but mostly holistic. She had the breast cancer variety that is genetic, I can't remember the scientific name of it, but it’s an aggressive one. I tend to think that while she died at only 77, she most likely bought herself time with her alternate treatments.

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AJoy's avatar

I’m pretty sure she posted on her Insta she was jabbed

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Tea Tephi's avatar

It is hard to believe that she vaxxed herself. She had decades long history of holistic approach to her personal health care. A preacher at my church, used total holistic care for his cancer. He lived several years just fine doing this. Then one day he came to work, sat down at his desk at church.....and died suddenly. And this was WAY before anyone even heard of COVID vaccinations.

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JW's avatar

I have a friend who is fully vaxxed and has received all boosters as soon as they were available. I told her how beneficial melatonin was and her reply was that no way would she take a synthetic hormone. I stopped talking to her about anything correlated to the shots, etc. In fact, we rarely talk at all any longer.

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Michele's avatar

Lots of 'alternative health' folk did this [got the jab]. I know of an acupuncturist who did it to be able to keep seeing clients; I know of an acupuncture school that wouldn't let me in w/o mask (I left telling them to eff off so evolved I know). Many working in health food stores were the worst mandate nazis. It really threw me for a loop, that the fear porn got to this group of people as well. Did not see that coming.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I had the same encounters with health food store staff and managers. I'd tell them they obviously didn't believe in the products they were selling and told them I only give my business to those who do.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Yep, a place called "Mother's Market" in SoCal actually locked unmasked in and called the police.

And Trader Joe's would allow "exemptions" but then "made" you use the specially signed "yellow star" cart.

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Michele's avatar

I liked this comment but what I really meant was 🤮!!!

SMH, SMH.

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Carrie's avatar

I was thinking the same.

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Annie's avatar

Hollywood was big on it.

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JMH75's avatar

The thought crossed my mind as well. Could she have taken the vax? Seems like she knew better.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Well, considering that a friend of mine who is being treated for cancer was told by his cancer doctor to take the covid death shot, I guess anything is possible.

Upside down world.

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AJoy's avatar

I’m pretty sure she was and that I saw it a year ago on her insta

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ASK's avatar

Hard to believe she would have been. She wasn’t a fan of big pharma drugs. Sad news to hear as she was a huge influence on not going down the chemo/big pharma drug route for cancer.

At least from what I saw she was happy and loved and had a great marriage and family behind her. That’s a life we’ll lived.

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Ringmaster's avatar

Does anyone know if she traveled to foreign countries which used to require the jab?

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Tea Tephi's avatar

It is hard to believe that Suzanne was vaxxed. She seemed to be totally into a holistic approach to her personal health care. I know many people in my church who have cancer and use holistic approaches. They live many years and they die too, just like those that use chemo and radiation die. Suzanne was almost 77, she had a good run by biblical standards. I'm sure she would have liked to live longer, but she didn't do too bad either.

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Kathy's avatar

I am guessing maybe she lived in California and had to get it to keep working or even having any kind of a social life?

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AJoy's avatar

Also probably protecting her husband who is in his 80’s

Pretty sure I saw it on her Insta when I learned she got cancer again

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I read an article and you can search it but she said in the article she didn’t want to get vaxxed but one of her daughters was insisting she did not get vaccinated, she would not be allowed to her daughter or the grand-baby. Suzanne knew better. I believe she knew when it came roaring back what had happened. She did not trust big pharma. I heard her speak right before covid ago on the topic of corruption pharma. Terribly tragic. I am such a big fan of hers. She was all light and sunshine and has done so much for women sharing her hormone secrets.

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Diane Negvesky's avatar

That’s enlightening information and makes her passing even sadder.

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AJoy's avatar

I think I have seen some of her Insta posts where she discussed getting the jabs.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Good morning sunshine! Thanks for the bonus yesterday!💞

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Br's avatar

Hoping for a bonus every week. :)

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

That wouldn’t be fair. If we all got the Sunday edition, the paid subscribers wouldn’t get anything extra at all. I just wish I was in a position to chip in.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I don't care about the extra edition at all; I pay to free up Jeff's time to be able to do liberty-related legal work, not for my own direct benefit.

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Br's avatar

I agree but if I became a subscriber it would be more to help the kind, humble and oh so smart Mr. Childers forge on to help better the nation like he’s doing so well now. I only wish I had run into this stack during the pandemic for all his perspectives would’ve only helped a bit more. :)

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Dr. Dusty DuBois's avatar

You could contribute to the cause by paying $50/month and then you always get your weekly bonus. Best $50 I spend in a month.

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Br's avatar

Yea. It’s a hefty amount for me. Sorry. But yes, I agree, well worth it if you can afford it. I do however contribute to all the multiplier requests, usually with $12 or $22.

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SPONGEWORTHY47's avatar

I once saw a chiropractor with your same name in a suburb of seattle...

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Dr. Dusty DuBois's avatar

There is only one of us so that me. Small world.

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Tucson Tanya's avatar

Every Sunday. (Almost) like clockwork 😉

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MaryAnn's avatar

"It’s kind of like taking the polio shot and becoming paralyzed. The good thing is you weren’t really paralyzed by polio, not per se. Your frigid, motionless body proves the polio shot is working."

This, right here, is nailing the pseudo-science world we have been living in. Thank you Jeff!

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JSR's avatar

Especially because they never eradicated it... just renamed it.. gullien barre... transverse myelitis

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Sam's avatar

Is that true? I’ve never heard about it being renamed, but it makes sense. I’d like to search for it, but don’t know which words to use.

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JSR's avatar

“Currently, the cause of AFM is unclear. However, the CDC believes it may be linked to poliovirus, nonpolio enterovirus, adenoviruses, and West Nile virus”

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/detecting-polio-like-disease-is-difficult-for-doctors#Scientists-dont-know-what-causes-AFM

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JSR's avatar

“3. It is accepted that poliovirus infection can present occasionally as transverse myelitis”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16630313/

“It is also accepted that OPV can cause vaccine-associated paralytic polio”

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