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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

This comment is for C&C readers who are suggesting the possibility that Charlie Kirk’s assassination was staged, or that we’re not being told the truth about who committed this heinous crime.

TPUSA is a Christian organization. The heading of their TPUSA Faith webpage declares this:

“STANDING FOR TRUTH… UNITED”

Charlie Kirk and his wife, Erika, are devout Christians. One of the most important articles of faith in Christianity is the precept of Truth. Indeed, Jesus mentions the words “truth” or “truly” dozens of times in the New Testament, and the word “truth” appears over 500 times in the Bible as a whole. Perhaps one of the most well-known and beloved utterances of Jesus is, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

To suggest that Charlie’s assassination was staged or that it was committed by a different individual or a controversial political entity is to defame Charlie and his wife, Erika, and the whole TPUSA organization. In fact, it recklessly defames and endangers Christianity as a whole by inferring that Christians are liars who can’t be trusted to tell the truth.

To suggest that Charlie’s assassination was staged is to impute the most EVIL of motives to Charlie himself. Do you honestly think a loving, Christian husband and father like Charlie would lie and abandon his precious children and wife for what is ultimately a worldly, political purpose? If you do, you have no clue what it means to love Jesus and follow him.

Believers are acutely aware that this world is not our true home. At Jesus’ behest, we strive to lay up treasures in heaven, not on Earth. Jesus tells us that, “In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. And you know the way to where I am going.” The “way” is to follow Jesus and BE the Truth in a world that is deceived by the Devil.

As someone who has been red-pilled since the age of 8, I’ve learned to use logic, the principle of Occam’s Razor, the truth of the Holy Bible, and the discernment of the Holy Spirit to parse and interpret the information I’m confronted with. I believe the horrific murder of Charlie Kirk was REAL, and the guilty perpetrator was caught. Robinson fits the Devil’s archetype perfectly for such a heinous crime.

As Jesus famously said, it is the Devil who lies and is the Father of Lies. The Bible is blunt and crystal clear about this. I see no logical or spiritual reason to doubt the death of Charlie Kirk or the identity of his murderer at this point. Read Bill Ackman’s posts about Charlie, TPUSA, and Israel on X.com. But first, watch this interview with Christian author Frank Turek, who was in the SUV with Charlie as he was being rushed to the hospital, and then tell me you still think Charlie’s assassination was staged: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1968392383080628238

I don’t know the Kirk family personally, but they are my brothers and sisters in Christ, along with every other Believer who TRULY loves Jesus and seeks to follow Him daily. Like the way Charlie did. Rest in peace, my dear brother. ✝️

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Patti's avatar

I respectfully disagree with this. When did it become a crime or not Christian to question things. Anything? Have we not learned anything from Covid? Believe the first spoonful they serve you??? I am not convinced we know the truth. The full truth. I don’t know what the truth is and I am listening. Questioning. Asking. Respectfully.

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rolandttg's avatar

Bravo. I can almost guarantee I have been going down the rabbit hole far longer than the vast majority of people who post on this site. Anybody who thinks they can take what the government, Any government, at face value for their words is truly naive. And BTW, posters who tell us "how dare you question X, Y, Z?" are no better than the branch covidians who canceled anyone who dared challenge any aspect of the official psyop. Quite frankly, 104 "Likes" to that post disgusts me . Wake up people. Challenge EVERYTHING. The first casualty in war is truth, and this IS war.

226 likes disgusts me even morel. What is wrong with the people on this site???

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Patti's avatar

Thank you! Agreed. As for ‘likes’ sometimes that’s acknowledging the writer. IMO could be wrong. Ya to take government at face value is a joke. I want to laugh at PM of Israel for addressing Americans in videos. Worry about you’re own

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Chixbythesea's avatar

In a long post there are often valuable ideas even if not everything is agreeable.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Yes, I like many comments as a gesture to the writer for their sharing and thoughtfulness, not necessarily as a confirmation of my agreement with them, though that is sometimes the case.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same here.

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Jacqueline Bernard's avatar

Thank you!

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rolandttg's avatar

I know what you are saying in spades, and the term is probably not the best choice. 3 of the FBI agents were shot were former bodyguards of slick willy. I'ver read information about the event and coverup were stored in Oklahoma, recently moved there before the bombing. Remember slick found tanks to sent to Waco, but not to Mogadishu, re Black Hawk down. It was yet another in the never ending steam of government psyop atrocities.

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Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Yes, that entire branch davidian Waco raid by the FBI was a huge screw up according to my cousin who worked as an attorney at the DA’s office in Waco at the time. The Waco police maintained that they had Koresh ready to surrender to them, as locals, but the FBI came in and pushed the local police aside and went in guns blazing without even bothering to get fully briefed on the state of the situation. Hindsight and egos must be taken into account, of course, but to hear her side of things, it made the FBI look really bad and left that office with very negative views on the FBI that still linger to the present day, unfortunately.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

In my opinion, that FBI raid in Waco was far more sinister in its intentions than just a screw up. It was none of Janet Reno's or the FBI's business, it should have remained local. The deep state wanted to see just how far they could go with tyranny and trampling on American's rights.

I will always call it heartless intentional murder. It was a wakeup call to many people of just how bad things had gotten.

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Synickel's avatar

Also, there was an excellent documentary with evidence that there was a Delta team there in the background that were sniping both the ATF guys, and then the davidians that were trying to run out of the fire.

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rolandttg's avatar

Yup. Shades of Maiden 2014

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KingPhillips1776's avatar

I thought that at first, but they said branch covidians!

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DaveL's avatar

Play on words.

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Synickel's avatar

Wow! My sloppy bad! Reading too fast.

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David K Thiel's avatar

I agree with TPUSA that the assassination was not staged. But otherwise my mind is still open. I still have and unanswered question or two.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Indeed, asking better questions is ALWAYS the way forward!! As you correctly point out Covidiocy was an intelligence test. Many failed.

What you aspire to is respecting your God given mind. Well done.

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Synickel's avatar

Ditto, Patti. It is never wrong to fully investigate a crime, no matter how painful.

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Ashley's avatar

Same!

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CherylBray's avatar

Well said

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Jaci's avatar

I think the truth lies in KZM or the country that was founded in a day!

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CStone's avatar

So….Antifa on here blaming Israel…again…….

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Ellen's avatar

Not everyone pointing to the psychopathic acts of Israels government is Antifa ... Even Tucker is angry about how Netanyahu exploited Charlie's death to claim he was a close ally of Isreal when he was beginning to change his mind on that. It's at least worth considering ...

https://michaelyon.substack.com/p/inside-the-assassination-game?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=459345&post_id=173903326&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=3zl5l&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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TB's avatar

Charlie DID support Israel though, even while also having criticisms of some of their actions. To me it makes more sense that Netanyahu was simply trying to say "he was our friend and has our condolences"... though if he WAS trying to use it to bolster support, then that's just as tacky as the people saying "he didn't deserve to die BUT... here's also the reasons I didn't like him".

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Jessica Libolt's avatar

Please stop with this nonsense. The idea that everyone who knew Charlie Kirk would be lying about him is crazy talk. 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Bard Joseph's avatar

" The Freemasons should control all men of every class, nation and religion, dominating them without obvious compulsion; uniting them through a strong bond; inspiring them with enthusiasm to spread common ideas; and with utmost secrecy and energy, direct them toward this singular objective throughout the world."

Adam Weishaupt, Munich 1765.

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Unknown Unknown's avatar

Great posts, as I've found conspiracy theories so superficial and fleeting. It's simple, Charlie loved his family like many of us and someone killed him. Lesson I've learned: enjoy my short precious time, love my family, have even more gratitude than the prior day, and remain cognizant that evil is out there. I must stay vigilant but continue to serve others as Christ did.

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CStone's avatar

Most conspiracy theories on the right have been proven to be true. You just have to wait 24-48 hours.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

There are thousands of versions of conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination and 9/11. And they are BIG variations. They can't all be "right'.

The isn't nearly as much to differ about with the moon landing, BTW.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

The word conspiracy means when two or more plan to do something unlawful.

The word fits precisely.

A theory is like a hypothesis. Requires tests and evidence that can be corroborated.

Your tenure includes asking better questions, that is a service.

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Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

One reason they choose not to go down the conspiracy theory path at this time could be that none of this will bring Charlie back to his family and to those who loved him. I’m guessing that they really do not have the psychological bandwidth to entertain the complexities that may be confounding variables, and need to leave that in God’s hands working through the FBI and the Utah police. I get the sense that they want to focus on the man, his legacy, and to begin to get a little bit of an outline of the future without him leading the way. Obviously I could be completely off base, and as all comments are by nature, this is merely my opinion.

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TB's avatar

The problem is there are so MANY mutually contradictory conspiracy theories, and logically no more than one of them can in fact be correct. Currently it looks like there might have been a conspiracy of online radical leftists, but.... *shrug* my approach is to not jump too hard onto any theory until there's more evidence.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I have one question, why do you want everyone to believe what the media is now saying even when their own words don’t add up? ie shooter changed his clothes. TWICE

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A.M.'s avatar

He is not asking you to believe what the media is saying. He is simply asking that you consider Kirk's Christianity. He's being very specific. And he's right. As for your question--that's a lot of noise right now and we are just going to have to wait. No one is asking you to believe everything the media says and everyone knows that that would be a ludicrous suggestion!

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daverkb's avatar

Sorry, Flat Earth is saying much, much more than just consider Kirk's Christianity. And by the way, many people are questioning the simplistic explanation coming form 'more official' quarters. Why? Because to many things just don't add up.

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Amy Winans's avatar

Dave, devil's advocating here: We NEVER get the whole story. We ALWAYS get the simplified explanation or none at all. Just remember, you probably need that to satisfy that 'adding up', so it may well never happen. J/S. Cheers!

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CherylBray's avatar

Exactly

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

Christians can delude themselves that they are more truthful than everyone else but this is not objectively true.

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CStone's avatar

Not everyone who ‘claims’ to be a Christian is a Christian.

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

No true Scotsman...

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Truth Seeker's avatar

You think that a valuable contribution at a time like this?? Think again.

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A.M.'s avatar

Can you have an objective 'truth' about truth? Is there a truth meter that you are privy to? I don't get how this works. If I am a truthful person is that a delusion, or is it only a delusion if I am truthful and a Christian? Is there some Objective truth you have access to?

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

People try to be good and honest or they don't, some even go for the opposite. They arrive at their resolve or lack of by different avenues. Some get there by following Xtian precepts others by their inner-knowing and others by yet other means. Xtians don't have a corner on truthiness, morality or incorruptibility regardless of what they may have been taught. We each follow what works for us once we find it.

I didn't say anything about "objective truth" as some category. I said it is not "objectively true" that Christians are more truthful.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

The different avenues are well characterized as false beliefs.

A great idea to offload as many as possible...

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Wood comes from trees and other such plants.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Really? perhaps you might descibe the other "such" plants and or the relevance of your statement?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

The truth is a progression not a destination. How could you not know this??

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Inaccurate summary.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Incorrect. He emphasizes as you suggest but wraps is up with main stream blather. And you echo the sentiment.

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A.M.'s avatar

I am not echoing any sentiment other than I do believe Charlie Kirk was who he said he was--a Christian. As for the investigation, an enormous roar of noise threatens to overtake it. Any number of misdirects are ongoing (one of which is that Kirk was an 'actor'). The noise does not bode well.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

More signal LESS noise as always. What bodes well is the MASSIVE international recognition and outcry. That is A Million times more important than the collective Fake News Echo Chamber. Divest!

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A.M.'s avatar

Oh, I have divested!

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Yes the media only spins lies

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Truth Seeker's avatar

that is exactly why intelligence suggests divesting

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Cabogirl's avatar

Thank you

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Karmy's avatar

Plus he supposedly broke down the rifle to climb up onto the roof, reassembled it and then broke it down again to climb off the roof then reassembled it and wrapped it in a towel to hid in brush. That makes no sense. Something smells fishy. Having questions does not disrespect Charlie so that’s a straw man argument to play on people’s emotions.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Agreed!

Why is it suddenly not ok to ask questions when things obviously don’t add up?

Brace yourself. Everyone seeing the same horribly grainy 80’s video they popped out of an old VHS player and enlarged can clearly see every detail of whether he had a gun, whether it was down his pants, dropped off the roof, if he’s limping from the fall and what he’s wearing. 😂 😂

Why, in the age of 4k and high definition videos can the fbi of all places, who have technology beyond our measly peasant capabilities, can they not actually show us a video that is clearly visible? Ask yourself THAT and stop arguing over what the video shows - it shows nothing clear to any 2 people’s! 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️

Maybe we should stop arguing and demand the REAL video they aren’t showing us. 🤔

One that doesn’t need a clear description via text thread where a 22 yr old computer dude messaged his “boyfriend” and used proper sentence structure with proper grammar explaining every detail of the murder and included details about his dad being so maga (as if the dude didn’t already know that since they were in a relationship 🙄) as to stop any further questions because it’s all wrapped up in a bow with a cherry on top in less that 48 hours for the video and the rest within one week. 🤔 😂

We really are trained seals clapping.

I prefer to ask questions. The govt has never given us a reason to trust them and the new administration with Bondi, Patel and Bongino haven’t yet either in my opinion. I hope they do quickly. But the first thing people do is take their word for all of it. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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PEL's avatar

Those emails are super weird. Too on the nose.

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Susan V's avatar

I don't buy the Tyler lone assassin FBI claim. NO way a 22 year old wrote those texts, why no ambulance, where is the phone video from Dr. Frank, his close friend accused of signaling ( BS) that he claims was running the whole time after the shot, seems all too tidy- trans shoots as Kirk is talking about trans, his grandfathers gun has transgender inscription. and what about the forensics??? No bullet, fake forensics that bullets can match the barrel - no such thing. NOPE this goes much deeper than the Lee Harvey Oswald patsy 2.0

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Why no ambulance????? Charlie Kirk was gushing out blood. They knew he had to get to the hospital ASAP, there was no time to freaking wait for an ambulance. As it was, Kirk was basically DOA. I'm sure his brain started dying within 3 or 4 minutes of being shot.

His friend that was in the SUV that drove to the hospital said he died instantaneously. I wouldn't quite agree with that, but I'm sure he went unconscious within a few seconds.

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Susan V's avatar

Sorry I should’ve been more clear-I was questioning why there wasn’t an ambulance on site as a standard procedure. Like for instance at college football games. I thought that would be standard protocol for public speaking events. That aside there’s still many unanswered questions. I don’t think it was staged but I definitely think there is more to it than FBI essay

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

It would be pretty dumb of them to manufacture a text chain like that. Too much at stake. Surely there would be someone at the FBI that could write something more "typical" if they were going to fake it.

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KMW's avatar

He didn’t climb onto the roof. He went up the stairs. And if you watch him walk it looks like he has the rifle under his clothes and down into his pant leg. He didn’t break it down after. If you watch the video of him coming off the roof closely you can see the rifle and the towel.

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Synickel's avatar

I thought I was the only one who had the sense to see that he had it in that towel and dropped them. It looked like he hurt his leg somewhat when he landed, too.

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KMW's avatar

He put it down on the roof as he swung over, picked it back up and jumped down with it. You can see the barrel sticking out from the towel.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

You don’t easily “break down” a 30.06 rifle. That’s poo-poo.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

easy to fool a ???

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Confusing people with facts?? They prefer narratives. It most definitely smells like a fish wharf. There are stupid people, lots of them

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Skenny's avatar

He did not disassemble it after the shot. The weapon can be seen (barely) as he ran across the grass after he jumped from the roof.

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JasonT's avatar

That particular rifle doesn't break down.

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Full Name's avatar

Certainly it would need re-zeroing after being reassembled on a roof. I defy anyone to disassemble, reassemble and shoot a Mauser within 10 MOA at 200 yards in under 10 minutes with only a screwdriver and with no sighting-in shots being fired.

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Skenny's avatar

That is a very valid point. The stock can be separated and re-attached from/to the action/barrel/scope with a couple of screws, and with similar torque values be very close to zero upon reassembly.

That being said, I figured that reassembly might have contributed to him damn near missing Kirk.

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Skenny's avatar

Two screws.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Karmy … agreed… this particular public something smells fishy is literally a blue whale mammoth fishy washed up on a California beach the stench reaching the height of mount Whitney… yes we need to stay sharp and keep asking questions: who, what, when, where, why with valid provable receipts.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Erica staged her grief, the coffin was staged, etc? C’mon, People, stop with the ridiculous nonsense.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I haven’t heard that version.

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Susan Seas's avatar

⬆️

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James Hambly's avatar

I’m not sure grampa’s Mauser 98 was really designed to be broken down.

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william howard's avatar

not staged but where is the bullet? and the autopsy report describing the angle and entry and exit of the bullet? do these match the shooters gun and where he was?

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Juju's avatar

Maybe they have more than they can say and revealing that would compromise who they have to go after? It’s one possibility of many.

I’m keeping an open mind and realizing we should not judge this too soon.

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Paige Green's avatar

Exactly. I have my doubts we have any viable info from the FBI at this point but hope it’s in order to not alert some other entity that may or may not be responsible.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Not possible to judge. Evidence accumulation phase.

Foolish to opine of what is unknown. Bright to point out gross inconsistencies...

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daverkb's avatar

This is a very good comment. But even so, and so far, everything seems off and not adding up.

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Patti's avatar

Open mind YES

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Janet's avatar

👍🏻

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Exactly.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Well, the area is now under construction, so they’ll probably never find it. Yep, a crime scene of a murder is under construction within a week. Nope all is well. It was a lone shooter on the grassy knoll and that’s all we’ll ever hear.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thank you! Another person willing to question the absurdities.

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Kathy's avatar

I don’t think it was staged, but I am also wondering why we have heard nothing about the bullet, especially as it corresponds to the gun that was allegedly used. Could the bullet have shattered after hitting something once it passed through his body? I hope they have found this important piece of evidence.

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daverkb's avatar

Oh! The bullet! It was put on JFK's stretcher to be 'found' at a later date. And then again, some bullets have to make many detours before they come to rest. In the bullet business, sometimes it takes lot of time.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Dave, not funny. 😕 I heard Patel answer that question with a yes, they got the bullet.

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daverkb's avatar

At this point, there's a lot of things not right about this assassination. And for now, folks have every reason to be skeptical. Of course, my take is an opinion. But it is also one now widely shared.

And please try to understand that there is a difference between how men talk and how women talk. We just ain't the same. And it is practical an established rule of the universe that my language expression is not likely to be feminized anytime soon.

And here's to wishing you a most enjoyable weekend.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Well, the area is now under construction, so it will probably never be found. So much for crime scene.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

I heard exactly that question being answered by Patel, that, yes, they have the bullet. Not everyone has heard or knows all the details. Go gently.

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Kathy's avatar

That’s great. I’m so glad they found it. It is important evidence. Thank you.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Kash Patel stated that they had the bullet. True, they haven’t released all the forensics yet. Certainty must be attained, and we must remain trustful and patient. Stop with the conspiracies while the legal process is in place.

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william howard's avatar

so good to hear - hope it matches and that will put all the conspiracies to bed

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Maureen ODH's avatar

William Howard… this forensics analysis is worthy of consideration… if you’re squeamish, don’t engage… (some of us medical can’t accept a narrative without autopsy forensics which so far isn’t available to my rabbit hole digging knowledge… this guy does some frame by frame analysis: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitchute.com%2Fvideo%2Ft0RkvRW0Jtz2%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR4LYwdsJ-URm7s_MQISTnQHGgJF8qElhqTddYMfKBEJA2UxTbLUSQgikFiIiA_aem_Xv3Yii4YTa-Jc1HSD0IwXA&h=AT167GKfeQEyLW-AWvyeIpGG3419K_YiBWh9e7xDig_0rTJ8f2ow1ewLJEmmF83-IBJziqFXiIGUWSLqGkoxYvuqwlTS8ic2SE5Go62rt4z5JLb6XXonzZNeetyHQut29baqxqw_4AqS&s=1

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Bitsy54's avatar

I don’t do Facebook, is this on Bitchute?

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el bicho palo's avatar

the link actually resolves to bitchute, it's one of those warnings, you are about to go off reservation

https://www.bitchute.com/video/t0RkvRW0Jtz2/

just go straight there

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Maybe it didn't exit. Could it have been a hollow point?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Accurate assessment.

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Skenny's avatar

It's safe to assume the bullet passed through, and may never be found.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Agreed! And I wanted to add this comment I posted elsewhere on the situation:

So the big thing here is that it’s as if:

1. If we say Charlie was staged,

2. We MUST know what comes next.

That’s where our naturally think, but I don’t think we need to go that route.

In one of my earlier writings I argue, I don’t need to know WHY you’re lying to me, I just need to know you’re lying.

That’s what we’re seeing here.

We don’t need to know if Charlie was in on it, or does he not raise his kids. That’s trying to rationalize it: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/i-dont-know-why-liars-lie-but-they

The people who can stage events have information that we don’t so us trying to piece together something with incomplete information is almost impossible

We don’t need to know why it happened, we just need to be able to spot something when it happens. And I think that’s where most of us.

We don’t know why the mainstream narrative is lying, but we’re sure of one thing: they’re lying.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

ALWAYS!!

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CStone's avatar

Every. Single. Time.

The TRUTH is not in them.

Their teeth are like impenetrable fences.

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Lori's avatar

Boom! Thanks Susan.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Thank you!

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Coalburned's avatar

Changing clothes multiple times makes perfect sense for someone wanting to avoid being noticed. Heck, we see that all the time in crime thrillers.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

The person who might have been Robinson said in a text message that pictures of him were his "doppelganger."

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David A's avatar

Susan, please quote the actual words where he said this, for that is NOT what I read. The "media" is saying many things. What specificaly do you think he is supporting and what is the media saying that you think he is supporting?

He is supporting the general story that this extreme liberal Trans supporting nut committed the murder with support from like minded organizations.

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Donna in MO's avatar

He is addressing the specific charge that the murder was faked.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I may have misunderstood.

I mean I guess I did 😅

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Dr Linda's avatar

Brava

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CStone's avatar

What does that have to do either those who are saying “Charlie isn’t really dead…..it was faked.”

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Antifa people on here, disguised as conservatives (they think) with the mission of causing confusion and division?

At this particular time following the instructions to imply that Israel did it?

Anyone else see an absolute swarm of that behavior in the past several days?

Could be from long term posters; always doubting Trump and his administration. Never seeming to have actually read Jeff’s posts. Just jumping in with their influencing mission. Causing chaos, causing division, driving wedges.

We’re beginning to see you.

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CStone's avatar

Exactly.

And they’re the ones who call me hateful, when they spew hate against Israel and Jews ALL THE TIME.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Like mama said, ‘Sticks and stones…”. It’s quite obvious who’s really hateful. They’re just projecting.

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CStone's avatar

****Should have said ‘with’ instead of either.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

great question, maybe a poser bot???

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Ashley's avatar

Your premise is why people walk away from the church. You basically just told all Christians that they are bad people and not properly following Christ, if they do not immediately fall in line with the narrative. It is the same argument that was used against Christians to guilt them into taking the poison shots and smothering themselves with face bandages.

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Juju's avatar

I didn’t read it this way at all, but going back and rereading it I can see how someone would. I believe he was defending the premise that Charlie stood for truth and to think he or his family or organization would deem a lie as more powerful and necessary than the truth is disgusting. We have to remember what they stood for and reflected in their actions when he was alive as we analyze this. It DOES matter.

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Ashley's avatar

This poster’s words were inflammatory. “ If you do, you have no clue what it means to love Jesus and follow him.”

I understand his basic premise, but again, telling Christians that we are bad or don’t know Jesus because we have a wait and see approach, is what turns people off and away from the church.

During CV, I had life long Christian friends tell me I was murdering their children because I wouldn’t force mine to wear suffocating face diapers. Their premise was the same … I didn’t “know what it meant to love Jesus and follow Him”, if I had a different opinion because I had done my research. That Jesus loved the children most and I wasn’t a good Christian.

That was parlayed out all over the US in churches. If you didn’t fall for the CV scam and immediately get poison shots and smother your family with face diapers, then you cannot be a good Christian and you obviously don’t know what it means to love and follow Jesus.

This poster is very sanctimonious in telling us how bad we are and that we are following evil if we keep an open mind.

The only way to never again go through the CV scam is to keep an open mind and not be sheeple who bury our heads in the sand.

His inflammatory remarks turn people off and away, which is the opposite of what he most likely intended. But, it is very common among those who feel “righteous” in their Christianity.

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rolandttg's avatar

To your point, Let us not forget those fine Christians Spaniards who gave us the Inquisition. This is the same rhetoric some Jews have been using through the ages. Nobody gets a free pass simply because of their religion.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

His judgment isn't determinative of whether or not a person is a Christian. We see a lot of "You aren't a Christian if you . . . . [whatever]. Fortunately, we don't have to work for salvation. It's a gift and you can't qualify for it by thinking or doing the right thing about things.

"God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it."

(Ephesians 2:8-9)

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Juju's avatar

Thank you for a very clear explanation to where you are coming from.

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CherylBray's avatar

The point is who is to say what is a lie at this point? It's preposterous to state that we have the truth now so every one should stop asking questions.

Additionally who are the "they" you refer to?

Clearly some of the "they" close to Charlie Kirk still have questions.

Some of the "they" do not and want questions shut down.

I always side with those who don't shut down debate.

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Janet's avatar

My church did that and finally, after ordered to mask again 5 MONTHS after shots started, I walked out the door. We were Closed a year. The month we finally opened the district so called leaders removed our young awesome pastor with children and gave us one not even of our denomination whose Asian accent many could not understand. Because by that time it was almost entirely just old and elderly attending. (Including me in that). Methodist. Our young people never returned. Blue state. PRICKster ruled.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Churches are more afraid of losing 501 status than of disobeying Lordly commands.

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MaryAnn's avatar

JBP loved his role of supreme ruler during the vid lockdown, whe he sends his family south where they could run free on the horse farm. 😖

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Ashley's avatar

For some reason, my like button doesn’t work on my iPad, but I hear you!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

All Christians, including me, ARE bad people. Otherwise, we would not need Jesus.

Romans 3:23 NLT ("For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.")

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Lisa's avatar

I saw some saying Kirk isn't really dead, that it's faked. I think that is what this original post refers to.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

They never followed Kirk if they are implying he’s on board with that scenario.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

They may also have not actually read Jeff’s post. Just showed up to drive a wedge and perpetuate the lie that Israel did it. Doing the Antifa mission work. We have plants on this site. Some have been here a long time.

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Peace's avatar

This post seems to have proved Jeff's point in this post: "Needless to say, don’t get tricked by crazy conspiracy theories circulating about Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Antifa has social media accounts disguised as conservative that it uses to create wedge issues. To be clear, I’m not discounting any theory. Let’s explore (and question) everything. But we must also hang together and not let the terrorists divide and hang us separately."

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Antifa came out of communist roots of the SPD German political party and was originally formed more than 50 years ago. Fun fact: There are several pasty, Gen Z Antifa members in high positions in the German government including Merz’ #2 (Lars Klingbeil) his top coalition partner.

Trump needs to go after them as an international organization and send the US traitors to Gitmo after identifying their connections to cross-Atlantic overlords. That will def make them STHU.

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CMCM's avatar

I read Torrance Stephens' substack. He just wrote this fascinating history of Marxism and Communism and includes discussion of Antifa's German roots. Great and informative article. https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/cant-claim-being-american-running

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Lovely thought that they would STHU!

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CStone's avatar

Yes they have.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Also in following Israel for as long as it takes, even if Bibi deploys nukes

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dancingtime's avatar

SMFH...ughhh...

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Justin's avatar

What do you mean by "staged"? If you're suggesting that Charlie's in on some grand deception, then I think you're incorrect.

If you're suggesting that it was made to look like a lone gunman, then there's plenty of doubt from the FBI's own narrative to support it. There's MANY questions being left unanswered that could easily dispel any notion that there wasn't a lone gunman. But they're not forthcoming. What happened to the high-res camera behind Charlie? It was taken down within 5 minutes of the shooting. Why are we only being shown a few video clips instead of much more from the crowd?

What about the autopsy? I'd like to see if there was an entry wound somewhere else on the body and that what we've seen is the result of an exit wound or the result of a bullet made to fragment upon impact, which don't look like the bullets shown to be from the lone gunman.

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Duckduffer's avatar

"What happened to the high-res camera behind Charlie? It was taken down within 5 minutes of the shooting."

Ummm....evidence?

"What about the autopsy?"

You normally get to see complete autopsy results of an active investigation?

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Karmy's avatar

Why was the crime scene not properly preserved but quickly removed. Why are there only grainy photos of the shooter on the roof? Many questions.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I have lots of questions and understand too that if the investigation is ongoing they may not be able to promptly answer every question we have. However, they aren’t answering anything. They are ignoring the questions. They are not being transparent. Why won’t they come out and address all this chaos and questions? How hard is it to say, -look, we know the video is grainy, we know there a ton of unanswered questions regarding alternative theories via footage from that day. The bullet itself. The camera in the tent and why the crime scene wasn’t closed off and why the school has already started new construction over an active investigation crime scene. Please just know we are working on it and will answer questions as we can.-

Acknowledge all the weird stuff!!! Maybe then we could all settle down and not assume it’s the next cover up from govt. Charlie’s wife and kids deserve the truth. And they shouldn’t have to wait 50 years to get it! That’s a dishonor to Charlie and his dear family.

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kittynana's avatar

@Duck- unless they're holding information to get bigger fish. I get that.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

They say because a trial will be coming.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

It's possible they don't want to create pretrial prejudice in the county where the trial will be held.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

That’s what they’re saying. Yes.

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kittynana's avatar

@Chix- yes. But I think there's more to it.

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Peace's avatar

The camera appeared to be taken down by a TPUSA staffer, not law enforcement (and no leos appeared to be in the vicinity at the time.) I didn't attribute any malice in this, but rather an unthinking responsive activity.

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Justin's avatar

I'm not holding this video up as evidence for much, but it does introduce another element not previously discussed, and that's the suspicious flight pattern of a jet in close proximity to the shooting (not the one that took off a few minutes later). This jet has been previously associated with military intelligence.

https://rumble.com/v6z1gru-cia-deployed-snipers-to-charlie-kirk-event-as-spy-plane-secretly-filmed-ass.html?e9s=src_v1_eh_cs

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Justin's avatar

Another theory shown here. https://www.bitchute.com/video/wLa3IdIWL9QC

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daverkb's avatar

More info. Thank you Justin.

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Lori's avatar

Yes this has been reported on msm and social media. very interesting.

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CherylBray's avatar

Candace has requested to see video from that camera feed. She recognized the person doing the removal from her years working at TPUSA. It's unclear if that will happen.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

Seriously, did you see the photo after the immediate blood spill? The bullet tore out the side of his neck. All of this disgusts me.

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Justin's avatar

Looked more like an exit wound than an entry wound.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Agreed.

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Porge's avatar

Bingo, Justin!

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Lori's avatar

I will continue to keep an open mind for the family may not have the whole story either.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

We will never know the truth, like we still don't on the attempted Trump assassinations.

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Paige Green's avatar

Or the Las Vegas shooter.

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Susan V's avatar

same police chief there as Lahaina fires- yep just a coincidence. NOT

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Lori's avatar

never say never:}

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Tom's avatar

Do not be led astray.

This, to me, sounds like a commandment.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Hi FEF, I just got this Substack about the "staged event" of the Kirk shooting. I am not an extremist when it comes to events like this, but I have learned that in the past we have been lied to blatantly with false "news". Like 9/11, Parkland, the Boston Marathon bombing, Sandy Hook, Uvalde, and many more. So I keep an open mind.

https://open.substack.com/pub/theamericanclassroom/p/snuff-propaganda-and-emotionalism?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Totally agree.

Lies our government told us.

Look no further than the Coof spoof and “WMD’s.”

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Interesting article. I posted a comment. We might be of the same mind.

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Jeff C's avatar

Who exactly is saying it was staged? I have not heard that but then I tend to listen to and read only people that have a track record of being correct.

Is anyone of substance saying it was staged or just the usual grifters, bad actors, and self-promoters?

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Tom's avatar

Jeff, we are told to not be deceived by any means. We will hear from those who will stage and grift and act in bad faith and self-promote.

I am no one of substance. If you want the Truth, go to Jesus.

I have nothing to offer. Go to Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. Period. If you still don't know what He means, perhaps that is His intention. Wait, and you will know.

If I preach to the choir, Glory to God.

If I do not, Glory to God.

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Peace's avatar

I hadn't heard anything about this being staged (as in TPUSa in on it) so no clue what the OP is talking about - unless he is talking about all the shooter questions.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Clear all the sativa smoke and two things are clear: TPUSA is booming, and people are talking about my Lord and Savior. Whatever went down, “God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done: the saving of many lives” (Genesis 50:20).

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I had leftists telling me the shot of the trump ear last year was “staged.” These lefties have guns. I asked them, “I’m a novice compared to you…. My understanding is that level of accuracy, to miss but not fully miss (by degrees of centimeters) is fairly impossible. No?” I got crickets….,

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dancingtime's avatar

Well...it wouldn't have been a miss if Trump hadn't turned his head...

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Duckduffer's avatar

Did they stage killing Corey Comparetore? Did they stage blowing Crooks brains out? The idea that there is more to the attempt than what we know if not hard to believe, but that it was staged.....cmon

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Crooks was mysteriously cremated within days. 🤔

We never saw the autopsy,

Why would that be?? When law enforcement collects the cell phones like they did in Los Vegas that to me is highly suspect as well.

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Cabogirl's avatar

Honestly .. Is anything real anymore?. .. do you all want to constantly go down this road on everything? All of us are exhausted from all of this. He was shot and he was killed. What the guy above was saying it’s doubtful Charlie would fake all this just to incite us on the right into action or whatever and if he did then apparently Charlie has created even more hate and division which I doubt he would’ve done for that purpose. So really do we want to divide ourselves/ yourselves even more, conservatives ?? Really.? Do you honestly think that was Charlie’s goal ?

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Lori's avatar

Many of us believe he was killed and not staged but the other question is who was behind it regardless of who shot him.

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Janet's avatar

I’m sure we will never know. My job is to enquire of God what I should do about it in my life and response to others because it’s time for me to do that as a Christian. In an attitude of love but strength and truth. I’ve hidden too long.

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Lori's avatar

never say never.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

It is Antifa’s goal to divide us. To think they wouldn’t send ‘soldiers’ here to infiltrate the comments section, is to be very naive.

Think of those that you go back and forth with and they just double down on the divisiveness. Who are they really? They can and do pretend to be anybody.

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daverkb's avatar

If you are flatly suggesting that no one should question the Kirk assassination because of blah, blah, blah with a Christian punctuation mark attached, then thinking ceases. Most people who look closely at Charlie's organization would likely conclude that Charlie and his outfit were and are the real deal. This being so does not preclude the notion that more was going on other than what many of us are now being asked to believe. And after all, we have all have seen the Patsy Movie before. And guess what, the nut cases which questioned that movie turned out not to be nut cases.

Official narratives are often wrong narratives.

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MatthewJohn's avatar

"To suggest that Charlie’s assassination was staged or that it was committed by a different individual or a controversial political entity is to defame Charlie and his wife, Erika, and the whole TPUSA organization. In fact, it recklessly defames and endangers Christianity as a whole by inferring that Christians are liars who can’t be trusted to tell the truth."

Nope. I disagree.

I don't know what happened... but to ask questions is to seek the truth.

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nik's avatar

Thank you for sharing the Frank video 😢 that was hard to listen to, but after that trauma to hear him say so fervently—absent from the body present with the Lord, brought me to tears . This world is not our home, always a good reminder we don’t know what tomorrow may bring 🙏

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Kathy's avatar

Some people may be suggesting the possibility that there were outside people who manipulated/influenced this obviously very mentally ill (or possessed ) young man. We know about psyops, MK ultra, as well as intelligence agents masquerading as sympathizers and egging on others to commit violent acts.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

I don't doubt he was killed, but by whom? Take a look at this little video snippet. https://rense.com/general98/video-loop.php It has nothing to do with him being a Christian. It has to do with someone/ones using his death for their own purposes. Hegelian Dialect. Create a problem, allow people to beg the gov't for a solution which usually includes removing your autonomy.

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CherylBray's avatar

For every action, there is a reaction...but more likely an over reaction.

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CK's avatar

“To suggest that Charlie’s assassination was staged or that it was committed by a different individual or a controversial political entity is to defame Charlie”

Let me get this straight, if someone thinks it’s possible that the MSM/government story is false they are defaming Charlie? This might be the single dumbest comment I’ve ever read on Substack.

Since when should someone start believing everything the media and government tell us? Because Team Red has the ball? I can’t believe this is a serious comment. How many safe and effective jabs did you get?

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

For those who would like to join me, here is a prayer:

God Most High,

We come to you humbly, in deep grief for the loss of Charlie Kirk.

We come to you in praise and thanksgiving that even in the depths of despair, you illuminate the darkness with hope and peace and assurance of eternal life.

We come to you rejoicing that the instant Charlie took his final earthly breath, he breathed in the pure, glorious presence of Christ when you received him into your everlasting kingdom. Thank you that his faith has been made sight.

Lord, thank you for uniquely raising up Charlie Kirk to do what no other person could do the way he did it. Multiply his work for your kingdom by drawing countless souls to salvation in Jesus Christ. Multiply his efforts to share eternal truth that repudiates the deception of this age. Bring about the harvest of souls so that the seeds Charlie planted and watered come to fruition before our very eyes.

Millions of us did not know him personally, yet we grieve because it feels like we did know him. Through Christ’s wondrous work of redemption, we shared fellowship with Charlie in your Spirit. We thank you for that spiritual community and connection that this world does not understand but needs desperately.

As our nation and the world grieve his absence from earth, we ask that you command your angels to guard every event and render powerless those who seek further destruction. Surround Charlie’s family and friends, our leaders, and every attendee with fearsome warriors to thwart every evil plot. Pour out your Spirit to comfort and inspire as only you can. Show yourself mighty in the earth.

Especially as thousands plan to gather on September 21, 2025, in Glendale, Arizona for the formal memorial service, we ask that you build a wall of warriors around the city that is impenetrable by evil. May every word spoken reflect your truth, every chorus sung proclaim your praises throughout the earth, and every prayer breathed rise as holy incense before your throne.

Oh Lord, hear our prayers. Heal our hearts. Save our sons and daughters, our cities, and our nation.

In Jesus’ name.

Amen.

[S]peaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord[.] — Ephesians 5:19

And one called out to another and said, “Holy, Holy, Holy, is the LORD of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory.” — Isaiah 6:3

When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. — Revelation 5:8

NAS95

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Juju's avatar
Sep 18Edited

Powerful. ❤️ I will pray this each day between now and through the 21st as I just did now. Thank you for the guidance of words.

It occurred to me the other day what has made so many of us cry nonstop each day at the thought of Charlie even though we didn’t know him personally: one of the prayers an authentic Christian has is “God I pray people see you and not me. I pray that your love and holiness works through me and you are glorified, not me.”

Well that’s what Charlie did. We ALL saw God when we watched him. We are mourning the loss of such a faithful man but we are also mourning an attack on God Himself, His hope, His goodness, His love, because Charlie allowed us to see Him through his own life. Ultimately we weren’t seeing “Charlie”, we were seeing “Christ” through him. It’s a visceral reaction to see Christ attacked.

But just as Satan was defeated when he murdered Christ before the world, he will be defeated with this murder of Charlie before the world. Christ overcame death, there is no greater defeat no matter how many Charlies Satan kills, he already lost. He is desperate and looking for ways to deceive those in the present age.

I thank God for Charlie allowing us to see our Heavenly Father through him.

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

This is the most perfectly beautiful analogy. Ty!

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Amen.

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

Amen. 🙏✝️

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Amen. Thank you, Janice

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Lori's avatar

Amen.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Absolutely wonderful Janice, beautiful prayer thank you ❤️‍🩹 I so worry for everyone that will be there🙏🏻

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Julie Monson's avatar

Praying in agreement! Thank you. ♥️🙏♥️

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Lorita's avatar

Amen, Lord have mercy on us, give us hope that everything will lead us to the Kingdom of Heaven on earth.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

Yes! And AMEN!

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Judy Ogden's avatar

Thank you, Janice!❤️Amen and Amen!🙏

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DKees's avatar

Janice, well done, thank you!

Let’s all join together in prayer for the Kirk service and all attending. 🙏

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Amen. Unleashed prayer and scripture is The Way. We grow strong, and the Holy Spirit strikes another blow. “Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God” (Ephesians 6:17). Stay armed and dangerous. “Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly” (Colossians 3:16).

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Sharon's avatar

Thank you

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Cornishrexlover's avatar

That was beautiful. Thank you.

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Loretta's avatar

Just wanted to pop in to say

Mike Rowe, on his podcast dated this week, mentioned he's found Coffee and Covid and Jeff Childers.

What a boost!

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Juju's avatar

It also means we are about to be flooded with those looking for ways to divide us. Stay calm and steadfast, with common sense not emotional reactions.

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Loretta's avatar

I thought that, too.

At the same time, that podcast was more political than he usually gets... And said he's likely to lose half his followers.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

He's a man of excellent character. I hope he magnifies the message

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william howard's avatar

and that people who took the mRNA vaccines got f...d

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Well, Jeff is doing a Dirty Job, helping clean up America, so it only makes sense Mike Rowe come check it out.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Good riddance Jimmy Kimmel. No talent, worthless putz. The purge is real....and long overdue.

The assertive nonsensical frothing by the lunatic fringe that “Erika Kirk is faking her grief to fuel fundraising efforts” is simply a reflection of THEIR approach to all things in life ... .a scam and a sham. This is precisely a tactic that the shifty imbeciles would employ with heartless opportunistic fervor. “Never let a good crisis go to waste” has no bounds for the perpetually spiteful. (“For outstanding flim-flam performance in a mini-series the award goes to……..BLM and the Floyd Family! Come on up here, guys!”) How could this brainwashed community of narcotized troglodytes - which co-exist in freakishily fused combinations - possibly offer persuasive commentary on the depths of sorrow this woman is experiencing after years spent scarfing down toxic advice pellets and other peculiar counsel offered up by a hodgepodge of deluded semi-conscious Tiktoking screwballs and quasi-scholarly flakes who have no concept of decency, morality, integrity ... and, of course, love?....Love, a passionate symphonic chord progression as far removed from their black hearts as virtue is from Hollywood. Such is the core existence of the impassive wayfaring loon. Attempted communication is of ill effect, except possibly when instructing them how to use the litterbox. Some of them really seem to enjoy that.

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SM's avatar

Jimmy wasn’t just unfunny, he was pathetically banal.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

You can drop the “b.”

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shibumi's avatar

I guess the new talking point is "Adam Corolla was Jimmy Kimmel's side kick on The Man Show." In reality, it was the opposite.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

So do you have a book out? Your own writing is stellar. And granted, being gifted in a small space is difficult, but you do it daily. “Yer killing me, smalls”

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

😁 I wish I had the talent, time and motivation. Though, this probably isn't the venue to be expressing creative writing. I appreciate the compliment, but I’ll be cutting my comments back considerably as to not clog up valuable space. I’m starting to clash with the furniture. Best.

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MattD's avatar

Ixnay on the cutting back talk Mr. H! Your contribution adds value and opens up this space for us all. Anyway I’m guessing it’s in your nature so good luck (not) cutting back on that. Onward and thanks for today’s masterpiece.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree!

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

Please don't 🤞🙏

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Dean's avatar

😂😂😂

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Dean's avatar

Good commentary…couched in corpuscular phraseology and knife like alliteration. Word smithing a tapestry of provocative images. Kudos

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Corpuscular?….is that in Texas?

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Dean's avatar

😂

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Cinghale's avatar

🤣

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Lorita's avatar

Your mixed animal metaphors are great: loons and troglodytes (a wren) are birds and of course we know what uses a litter box. I got the point of not letting those who don't know what we know influence us, but still had to smile, thank you Eric.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Full disclosure - Nexstar has an impending merger that the FCC can bless or nix. That said, I believe they were genuine in their response. Just an FYI so nobody is blindsided by that news.

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Jimmy Reacher's avatar

A golf buddy of mine was discussing how Kimmel was a truthful liberal and had the best commentary of the late night shows. I told him I haven't watched Kimmel since the Man Show and the girls on trampolines. Shut him up real quick.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

“Truthful liberal”…..I have no doubt. Being transparently awful is not a virtue. 😜

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Jimmy Kimmel was probably told to say what he said . I imagine that may be why he’s so mad.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Narcissistic projection.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

That comment was supposed to be a direct reply to your comment wherein you used the phrase “reflection of their approach.” They are narcissists.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Ah….apologies. Though I've been called a lot worse things than narcissist. 🤣

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Sorry, I wasn’t clear!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

It's okay. No harm. No foul. Best to you.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Ah, Melania wore her “I’m not impressed, you’re about to get a shellacking” uniform and hat again. (A navy suit and a hat very similar to the one she wore at the Inauguration.) She looks like an avenging angel in that picture of with she and Trump saluting and Charles and Camilla by their side.

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YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

Based on how Melania signals with her fashion choices, I wonder if she wears those hats to hide her eyes and protect the people around her from the high powered Steel Beams of Resolve that emit from them whenever she and Donald are there to deliver the Business.

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Susan Seas's avatar

The Queen Consort looks extremely depleted. 🤔

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shayne's avatar

Oh, you spelled mistress wrong 😉

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dancingtime's avatar

I think that you mean "love of his life"....as opposed to "arranged marriage"...

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Abiding Dude's avatar

She has always been a "beard" to King Charlie's widely known homosexuality.

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Susan Seas's avatar

😂

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Debra's avatar

I often think about Diana. The comparison is night and day.

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AngelaK's avatar

But he loves Camilla who he fell in love with when she was young. All young women are beautiful. We dont know how Diana would look in her 70s.

And as much as I liked Diana, she was a bit troubled (perhaps from her mother abandoning her and her siblings when she was a child?) and though she married a virgin, she did become a bit morally loose during her failing marriage. No one was a saint in that story. May she rest in peace. Amen.

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For reasons I can't fathom, a great many British women look pretty wrinkled, old and worn by their 60s and 70s. Is it the weather? Lack of sun? Look at Princess Anne...she looks terrible at this point. I suspect Diana would not have aged terribly well either.

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AngelaK's avatar

I knew some upper class British girls when I was younger. It was a very upper class thing not to wear makeup and such. Diana, infact,was mocked by some in the Royal Family for her attention to beauty. I suspect that those women now in their 60s, look like older women..there is something about the magical number of turning 65, even if you have taken care of yourself and always looked young...

(unless you have the $$$ money and inclination to inject and botox freeze and laser and have surgeries )

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Paige Green's avatar

I thought she looked like a better dressed Jill Biden 😂

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RunningLogic's avatar

To be fair “better dressed” is a pretty low bar to clear in this case 😆

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Cabogirl's avatar

I think they all have cancer from the clot shots. Maybe those shots were the hot ones to get rid of them . .. I don’t know but it sure seems that they all are not well. Look at them. Not good.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

The hat is reminiscent of Secret Squirrel. https://flxt.tmsimg.com/assets/p483684_b_v10_ai.jpg

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Roger Beal's avatar

Who wins the contest for The Biggest High-Fashion Chapeau: Melania or Camilla?

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Robert McCluskey's avatar

Melania, I contest!

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JT's avatar

A class act, indeed...(but obviously not in Vogue's opinion)

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CMCM's avatar

Melania is gorgeous and elegant. Truly the most beautiful First Lady we've ever had, best dressed too. And treated so shamefully by the press. Jill Biden looked like a school marm by comparison. Her clothes were awful.

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RunningLogic's avatar

There was a very funny Twitter thread at one point comparing Jill’s clothing to various examples of upholstery and curtains 😆😂

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CMCM's avatar

I was noticing how small and insignificant Charles and Camilla looked standing next to Melania and DJT.

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Guy White's avatar

Just got the good news that Jimmy Kimmel’s insufferable late night show has suddenly entered into broadcast purgatory… Mercifully, for it had long ago ceased to be funny or entertaining. And this, to a guy who cheered Tucker Carlson’s departure from Fox. But this sudden change of address is directly linked to his reprehensible recent comments about the murder of Charlie Kirk. To quote the incomparable Jeff Childers, “the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubricated.” Goodbye, Jimmy!!

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Patti's avatar

I thought he was moving to Canada when Trump was elected?

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Cousin Clem's avatar

I am saddened by the cheering of the suppression of anyone's stupid comments from either side of the political spectrum. If people don't like Kimmel or Carlson, they have a small button on their remotes that prevents them from listening. If enough people hit that button, sponsors notice and withdraw funding and said person removes himself. Too much eagerness lately begging for companies and gov't agencies to suppress any comments, thoughts, beliefs. Each time the companies or agencies comply with this begging, they have silenced everyone a little more. I know Mr. Childers says don't get caught in believing it's a free speech case. It doesn't have to be. People start self-censoring just the same. Soon we got us a social credit system with AI monitoring it and flagging all your thoughts and comments, just like Rep. Clay Higgins was pushing for the other day.

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Janine Melnitz's avatar

Kimmel lied and indirectly celebrated the death of Kirk...IMO. He maligned the un-vaxxed and basically cheered for their death if the hospitals were too full. He needed to go...

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Anthony's avatar

Perhaps sponsors have noticed and the decision makers used this as the last straw.

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Cabogirl's avatar

The reality is ABC ..Bob Iger, sees the lawsuits that Trump has won again mainstream media and Bob doesn’t want to get the shit sued out of him. ! That’s the bottom line. ..$$$$$

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Lori's avatar

Yes, it is being circulated that numbnuts ratings were down so they used CK to let him go.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that seems to have been the “excuse” they needed for something they were already thinking about doing.

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MnmMom's avatar

🎯

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Kathi M's avatar

I hear what you are saying, but he was taken off the air because his ratings were poor enough that the cost of his words outweighed his value to his employer. I agree that the FCC Carr’s horror at what an ABC show said probably brought it to their attention, but we all are hired and work “at will” which means we can be fired the same way.IF he had Johnny Carson, or Jay Leno’s numbers, they’d probably not fired him, if he made them money…

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Cousin Clem's avatar

That is what I said. He will remove himself if his ratings are poor. The reason for his removal was stated to be for his remark which easily could have been countered by others in media showing him to be mistaken. His ratings would then have fallen further. I found it rather distateful that the president chose to applaud his removal and then go on to say to NBC to do the same to Fallon and Meyers. Now, his words do carry weight and the heads of those corporations are listening. They have money deals in the fire and dont want gov't interfering with them so they do what the president suggests.

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Kathy's avatar

Yes, vote with your dollars, your remote control , your cable subscriptions, etc., and most of all at the ballot box. See what is happening in Europe when people criticize their government! A woman was put in jail for a couple days for using a couple of “mean” words to describe a rapist! The lefties could regain power here someday. Heaven help us!

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dancingtime's avatar

You obviously did not read or comprehend the section about broadcast channels...you must be too young to know the difference between broadcast and cable...even though cable includes broadcast channels in their basic packages...

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MayBella82's avatar

Disagree with your assessment and it appears that the sponsors did too. The line in the sand was stepped over and he had been doing it for a while. This time, it went too far and the sponsor recognized it. It is not censorship but decent human courtesy. The Kimmel went too far.

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Kimmel's ratings had been going down steadily for a long time, and had really plummeted lately. Ratings are money in that business. I heard he lost 72% of their most coveted demographic, so that's a big loss in revenue if those people are gone. I suspect advertisers were jumping ship.

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I have read that , like Colbert, his show was losing money. I agree with your statements about concerns of suppression of speech. I’m thinking that is combination of different factors, losing money, inappropriate comments that he was offered the opportunity to apologize for which he refused, and the F.C.C. concern of his misinformation.

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I hadn't realized he had planned to double down on his statement, which was just plain stupid. That was no a hill to die on. He destroyed is career with his uninformed stubborness. He can now join the realm of podcasting along with a few million others.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I was so glad to see that he got canceled. Because Kimmel is disgusting, as a human being. Now, I am just hoping the view if it’s still on gets canceled.🙏🏻 and thanks for the laugh oh my gosh 🤣

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AngelaK's avatar

The View started off as a respectful political conversational platform mediated under the tuttelage of Barbara Walters who kept it classy and objective.

When she left it became the ugly, crass, propaganda arm of angry, overly emotional liberal witches who are indicative of the civilizational collapse of the 2000s.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I have never seen it. Only heard the nasty comments, at times. Sad that a show could sink, similar to 60 minutes.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Jeff Childers said that?? Ewww.

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Karen Dunning's avatar

He didn't.

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Guy White's avatar

Snark, biting sarcasm and even an occasionally shocking metaphor are part of the brand. Some of us have been reading C&C for 5 years or more. I promise you that’s a direct quote, fairly recent, although I don’t have time to look it up right now. My imagination isn’t lively enough to make that up.

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Dean's avatar

😂

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Margot Wooster's avatar

I can’t believe it either. I’ve only been reading C&C for a few months, but have never seen Jeff use vulgar language like that.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

If you were wondering why so many people are acting insane, here is a list of brain medical issues caused by the covid jabs:

https://x.com/NicHulscher/status/1968470993699213418

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Is it possible? Would they poison the nation with a drug that creates more retards than we already have?

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Lori's avatar
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easier to control and more $ for big harma.

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Juju's avatar

I believe the people deepest behind this would. Follow the money and power structures.

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Cabogirl's avatar

Yes

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AngelaK's avatar

LOL..well said! 😄👏

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SM's avatar

Lots of brain damaged people, sadly.

Not to mention the probability that a high percentage of them are taking antidepressants and anti psychotics…

Imagine how crazy their daily lives are. It is hard not to feel bad for them.

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Lori's avatar

and the transgender furries on lots of hormones.

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Debra's avatar

and a lot of males are taking estrogen and a lot of females are taking testosterone.

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AngelaK's avatar

And a little of demonic possession invited into the heart and soul through the senses and abandonment of God and faith. A sick soul affects the mind.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

🎯

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Lori's avatar

Indeed Kathleen and see this in new published peer reviewed paper from IMA talked about on their weekly webinar: Including link to the paper below as well.

DNA Inside COVID Shots: Independent Science Confirms What Regulators Ignored

Never miss another webinar! Signup here: Weekly Webinars - Independent Medical Alliance

It started as a fringe concern—now it's peer-reviewed science: DNA contamination has been confirmed in Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccine vials, at levels far exceeding regulatory limits. In this timely webinar, we speak with the authors of the study that brings nearly three years of independent investigation to a head.

Host Dr. Ryan Cole is joined by Dr. Jessica Rose, Kevin McKernan, and Dr. David J. Speicher to walk through the methods, results, and urgent implications of their new peer-reviewed paper—including the detection of high levels of residual DNA and the presence of SV40, a gene sequence linked to cancer. They'll break down the study’s methodology, key findings, and the regulatory implications everybody needs to understand.

https://imahealth.org/dna-contaminated-covid-shots/

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Kathy's avatar

Yes! You can learn so much from those IMA webinars. Besides the jab issue, they also discuss new findings on things like cancer, treatment, limes disease, psychiatric, drugs, etc. If you miss the original airing, you can watch it some other time by going to the IMA website.

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Kathy, you may be interested in this tonight at 7pm EST

Friends,

Tonight on VSRF Live, I’m joined by my good friend and colleague Dr. Pierre Kory, MD, one of the most trusted voices in health freedom and evidence-based medicine.

Last weekend in New York, Pierre and I walked onto the stage for the first-ever public vaccine debate, facing off against “Debunk the Funk’s” Dr. Dan Wilson and YouTuber “Professor” Dave Farina. While they relied on ad hominem attacks, Pierre stood firm, delivering clarity, data, and scientific truth.

Tonight, Pierre will share his unfiltered, firsthand account: the key moments on stage, the electricity in the room, and what went on behind the scenes.

Later in the hour, we will also hear from our friend and NYC attorney Bobbie Anne Flower Cox, Esq., who also attended the debate. Bobbie Anne will share her legal insights, the audience’s reactions, and how this debate displayed the divisiveness in the fight for truth, transparency, and accountability in public health.

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Kathy's avatar

I will check that out! Thank you for being out there fighting for medical freedom. I love Pierre. I subscribe to his sub stack, and followed FLCCC from the beginning, as well as the HighWire starting in 2020. I was thrilled to find out that Pierre moved to my hometown, and I’m hoping that I run into him at the grocery store someday! I attended an intimate dinner in Tampa with Doctor Varon and about 10 other folks, and I felt like I was in the presence of a rockstar! Perhaps you were even there!

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Lori's avatar

You were in the presence of medical rockstars! Dr. Kory has been on VSRF several times. He is good friends with Steve Kirsch. Tonights forum will be excellent. Hope you can make it. Dr. Varon is wonderful too as is Dr. Cole, Dr. Marick and the list goes on.

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Kathy's avatar

I love and admire Steve and all of those doctors. The only silver lining of this scamdemic is that it created some true heroes and heroines who we probably never would have heard of. The avenging angels!

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Lori's avatar

Absolutely!

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Debra's avatar

Yep, it's a DNA changer and not for the good.

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Lisa's avatar

Bingo.

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Patti's avatar

Ugh

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sandy's avatar

The Hidden Chemistry of mRNA Vaccines — Adduct Formation Explained

https://www.youtube.com/live/U1i8jZI1jH8?si=LZsEHjpbWskjwgWj

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Wheaton's avatar

Yesterday on x, one of Charlie’s friends and mentor , posted a one hour YouTube video in which he discusses many of the details of Charlie’s final day. He rode with Charlie to the event and to the hospital. He was the man in the white hat under the tent. His name is Frank Turek if you want to listen. I highly recommend the entire hour.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

I watched most of that. Very moving and informative. Cross Examined is the name of Frank’s ministry and worth following. He is a very articulate apologist for the Christian faith.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yeah. That was tough.

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Ahmed’s Stack of Subs's avatar

“President Trump did not bow to King Charles. He just shook his hand.”

👏🫡

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Lori's avatar

Just perfect.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Odd... as he usually bends over for Bibi Netanyahu...

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Chixbythesea's avatar

He tried to shake Queen E’s hand too which is not considered proper and was scorned for it.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Have you seen this??? OMG!

https://videy.co/v/?id=51KXw2xY1

Our president posted this. 😂

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Steenroid's avatar

I may be naive but I suspect that even though Trump loves attention and the King fawning over him ( who wouldn’t) he didn’t get where he’s at without a good BS detector.

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MnmMom's avatar

It isn’t Trumps first rodeo by a long shot. His wealth open gilded doors for decades. He appreciates beautiful architecture but he seems to be most impressed by peoples actions. He hates waste- wasted time and money. He is a home grown all-American man who probably said “thank for the welcome” but now we can get down to business. And I suspect he is probably thinking about all the horrible crime that is happening in England, how they have handed over their country to Islamic radicals. They can through an impressive show-ceremony but they are a shell of a nation. Praying for those Brits who are speaking out in free speech and God save our President and VP and all those like Charlie. God save you and bless you! 🙏🏻

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Abiding Dude's avatar

True... which makes it so alarming that Trump is letting America be taken over by radical Zionist jews.

Part of this is supporting and funding Israel's mass-slaughter in Gaza.

I am no fan of islam... but mass-murder should be roundly condemned worldwide.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

Four Republicans defeated an effort to censure Ilhan Omar for her unruly comments. How nice of them to identify themselves to their constituents.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

SO? What are his voters going to do? Vote for the other side. of course not. So who cares?

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J Boss's avatar

We. Need. To. Work. And. Promote. The. Primaries.

Grass roots, local. Get rid of the rot in the primaries. Get your entire neighborhood block to do the same. Nothing else can overwhelm the cheating and get-rich skimming complacency.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

I am an American so I won't be doing any of that because I do not care about the republican&democrat PARTY.

Read my book, "The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon.

Yes Boss, read my book and see if you're still supporting the unconstitutional democrat&republican PARTY after reading my book.

Here is three fun questions I like to ask the republican&democrat voter,

1. Will you still vote for the democrat&republican PARTY when the US is $50 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt?

2, Will you still vote for the republican&democrat PARTY when the US is $75 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt?

3. Will you still vote for the democrat&republican PARTY when the US is $100 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt?

The point of the three questions is to see just how stupid someone is willing to be for the republican&democrat PARTY.

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neener's avatar

Got a link to their names?

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Flood

Hurd

McClintock

Mills

Google the subject matter. There are articles and posts.

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MnmMom's avatar

I believe Devory Darkins mentions them by name in his coverage of this story - https://youtu.be/yfFAhg6g1so?feature=shared

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I may be the only one who refused to watch any of the Royal Visit Falderal. When I was young I greatly admired the Royal family. Now I abhor them. That "king" is in cahoots with the global Luciferian cabal, and with Starmer and the mayor of London, who all three want to see the destruction of the UK by the islamic invasion.

I believe Trump sees through all this kissing-ass bull shit they have done. The British are not our friends. NATO countries and the EU are not our friends.

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But I want to add, I greatly appreciate Jeff's coverage of this visit, with his usual excellent commentary! This is all I needed to know, thanks Jeff!

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MnmMom's avatar

I laughed so hard at Jeff’s remark about Britain wanting us to be their girlfriend again. Made me think of the old Studio C show. Great sketch about “USA” and “Britain” that IS funny, in good humor, good writers that know how to make a good joke.

If you need a good laugh…

https://youtu.be/tqIh3N7_xGk?feature=shared

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Thanks!

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Debra's avatar

I did not watch one second of it. :) Once they killed off Diana I was done.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Same.

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

I agree! I can’t watch any drivel from them. I simply do not care

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Eruca Sativa's avatar

Same here. Didn't even have to try not to watch it. It's just not on my radar.

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J Boss's avatar

If you know the history of Europe and the interconnected families and banking... they can only put on that show b/c they've killed, maimed, and looted everyone on the continent for hundreds of years. Thanks, but no thanks.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The British empire and their Masonic/Zionists fellow travelers have never been a "friend" of America.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

makes one wonder why Trump is kissing Netanyahu's mass-murdering ass so often.

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Randy's avatar

Antifa uses threats of violence and actual violence to change the behavior of people it opposes. Is this not terroristic behavior?

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Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Yes, it's the definition of terrorism, the use of (or less often the threat of) violence on civilians, in order to create pressure on government to induce political change.

Additionally, with nihilists like Antifa, there is no actual end goal beyond the violence; the destruction of Western norms and culture is the sole result they pursue.

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TB's avatar

Sure sounds like it. I've seen online posts suggesting that Antifa could be validly declared a "foreign terrorist organisation" under existing legislation. (It traces its origin back to 1930s Germany, thus "foreign"... don't know if it would stand up in practice or not!)

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Bruce Curley's avatar

"Not like, say, when Biden called the “Disinformation Dozen” (who I currently represent in their lawsuit) an imminent threat to the public."

Did not know that.

Glad the "Disinformation Dozen" have such incredible legal talent working for them.

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Debra's avatar

I hate to get started on Great Britain since my ancestors (legally) immigrated from there in the 1600-1700's. The killed many of the early American's in the Revolutionary War. They, the monarchy, was determined to make sure America was never independent and they wanted their tax money! Today they bend over backwards for the Muslims who have invaded their nation and put their own people in jail for speaking out about the rape of their children. They are two-faced hypocrites. I believe our President knows exactly the type of treacherous, lying, deceiving people the so-called leaders are. Rant over.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Thank you. Good rant. I hope that Trump does see them for what they are, even with all the butter.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Don't forget about the Crown's second invasion of America in 1812.

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skeptic bruh's avatar

Thank you for specifying (legally).

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Janet's avatar

Yup. And Melanie didn’t curtsy. Americans never curtsy anyhoo. Melanie looked STELLAR. 😊👍🏻

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Janet's avatar

Autocorrect. See they don’t even bring president Trumps wife’s name like the algorithm ignores Trump when you type President. Every other recent POTUS pops up but him.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Melanie Represents!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

No Kings 😂

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