Nice! Love when people see a bigger picture. I’ve never considered myself to be a grammar … um … Marshall… but honestly people’s use of grammar sets me off. (Not to mention autocorrect) 🙄
Copy editing allows me to professionally, legitimately exercise the insane, maniacal drive (it does manifest, in my head, to some sort of madness) to fix, sweep clean, right wrongs, and make the world a better place for English speakers and learners. There, I feel better now. 😵💫🤣🤪
I’m curious if anyone else had a similar experience … I’m 65, so was in grade school in Urbana, IL approx 1964-1971 (we moved in the middle of my 6th grade year).
Instead of learning about nouns, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, etc., I was taught about Class 1, Class 2, Class 3, and Class 4 words. 🤡
Maybe at some point they would have connected those ridiculous classifications to REAL grammar, but we moved, and my new school (away from liberal education experimentation), taught grammar the correct way. Needless to say, I basically know nothing about grammar. 🙄
Luckily I love to read, so can usually tell by how it ‘sounds’ whether it’s correct, but not always…writing papers in college was not fun. Also, luckily, God gifted me with love of math and science, so a career in pharmacy (loved it til I woke up) followed.
I love words, and LOVE reading really well-written books/blogs/essays…but no doubt I missed out on something very important.
My seventh grade math class was focused on "the NEW math"--the binary system! How much time have we spent using the binary system since then? Only computer folks, as far as I know. Binary, instead of more time on multiplying and dividing fractions, working with decimals....basic stuff. Also--re your English "new grammar"--as a Latin teacher having to teach my 8th graders basic English grammar, just in order to be able to teach them basic Latin grammar (cuz we wasn't using Hans Oerberg Lingua Latina!) I came to realize the real meaning of our terms: noun (nomen--a name) adjective (ad + iectus--lying near--as an adjective does tend to show up near a noun) adverb (ad + verbum--near the verb-word) preposition (prae + positio --place before--as our preps go before the noun, not after) conjunction (con + iunctio--joining together) and so on.
Massachusetts. 1961-62 for the 7th grade with “New Math”. Ironic ( or maybe not) to learn, some 10 years later, when beginning Homeric Greek, that “math” is from “mathein”—to learn.
Do you suppose within the fall-out might be a renewed respect for, or understanding of, the power, thus the value, of grammar?
Nice! Love when people see a bigger picture. I’ve never considered myself to be a grammar … um … Marshall… but honestly people’s use of grammar sets me off. (Not to mention autocorrect) 🙄
Copy editing allows me to professionally, legitimately exercise the insane, maniacal drive (it does manifest, in my head, to some sort of madness) to fix, sweep clean, right wrongs, and make the world a better place for English speakers and learners. There, I feel better now. 😵💫🤣🤪
Indeed—how many times has “marshall” come up in past months? Suggests to me that too many people only listen, and do no reading.
I was an English major in college. Made me crazy too but I have gotten over the urge to 'correct' any weird spelling etc.
My sister, my grandson, and me, ready for trick-or-treating last night.
I’m curious if anyone else had a similar experience … I’m 65, so was in grade school in Urbana, IL approx 1964-1971 (we moved in the middle of my 6th grade year).
Instead of learning about nouns, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, etc., I was taught about Class 1, Class 2, Class 3, and Class 4 words. 🤡
Maybe at some point they would have connected those ridiculous classifications to REAL grammar, but we moved, and my new school (away from liberal education experimentation), taught grammar the correct way. Needless to say, I basically know nothing about grammar. 🙄
Luckily I love to read, so can usually tell by how it ‘sounds’ whether it’s correct, but not always…writing papers in college was not fun. Also, luckily, God gifted me with love of math and science, so a career in pharmacy (loved it til I woke up) followed.
I love words, and LOVE reading really well-written books/blogs/essays…but no doubt I missed out on something very important.
The planned dumbing-down started a long time ago…
My seventh grade math class was focused on "the NEW math"--the binary system! How much time have we spent using the binary system since then? Only computer folks, as far as I know. Binary, instead of more time on multiplying and dividing fractions, working with decimals....basic stuff. Also--re your English "new grammar"--as a Latin teacher having to teach my 8th graders basic English grammar, just in order to be able to teach them basic Latin grammar (cuz we wasn't using Hans Oerberg Lingua Latina!) I came to realize the real meaning of our terms: noun (nomen--a name) adjective (ad + iectus--lying near--as an adjective does tend to show up near a noun) adverb (ad + verbum--near the verb-word) preposition (prae + positio --place before--as our preps go before the noun, not after) conjunction (con + iunctio--joining together) and so on.
I’m pretty sure we were doing new math too. I remember my dad tried to help me with a worksheet and it was all wrong lol
Were you in a blue state too?
Massachusetts. 1961-62 for the 7th grade with “New Math”. Ironic ( or maybe not) to learn, some 10 years later, when beginning Homeric Greek, that “math” is from “mathein”—to learn.