1000%. If done right, with the 16th Amendment eliminated and the guard rails put in place, so they can't just with a simple majority increase the rate, it would be a boon for the country and for freedom. And everyone has skin in the game, and "pays their fair share" to quote the leftist totalitarian's favorite thing to screech!!! Progressive tax on income is the worst thing for economic growth.
The Sixteenth Amendment was never lawfully by any state. I read the book tens of years ago and personally observed the discrepancies. What we need from the bottom is a club with a chapter in each state doing the search in their own state to gather the complete record of the ratification. Then sue to get the various certifications of their ratifications declared legally deficient. Another chapter needs to look up the other end of the process in the National Archives so the state chapters can include that data in their suits.
The collection work was done successfully a number of years ago and recorded in a book titled The Law That Never Was. That was before the web and crowdsourcing and his ire was directed at the center and none of his legal efforts went anywhere.
DuckDuckGo just gave me a URL of the same name (which I have not visited):
The gentleman that did all the work died in 2021 at age of 94. I plan to dive into the website this weekend. Here is the opening in memoriam at the top of the website:
During the early morning hours of May 5, 2021, the honorable man William J. Benson left our good company forever.
He was born March 30, 1927 in Harvey, Illinois. He'd just turned 94. A stalwart defender of American liberty, he never wavered in his commitment to hold government accountable for its misbehaviors. Over the years he assisted many in successful defenses against a cruel, illegitimate and tyrannical tax system; those who adhered to his careful guidance were exonerated of wrongdoing.
He leaves us a legacy difficult to fulfill. He was almost larger than life. His discoveries have shaped how we see the history of our nation.
Thank you Dan. I have always heard that but hadn't taken the time to research it. It was one of those that was simply 'decreed' by the progressives when it got close. I'll bet Elon would be on board with looking into this. He has a complete understanding on how the income tax has ruined this country. I'd be willing to join the club.
Robyn: That's the point, every does pay their fair share. Using 21% as the tax rate for the Fair Tax on new goods as the example: If you can afford a $100,000 boat, you would pay $21,000 in taxes on that new purchase. If I can only afford a $10,000 boat, then I pay $2,100 in taxes on that new boat. You've paid a considerable more tax based on what you can afford than I did, so you and I would both be paying "our fair share". Not sure how the leftists can use the bogus 'fair share' talking point argument when looking at those numbers. But I'm sure they still would try!!... LOL! Common sense is an uncommon virtue with the communists/socialists.
I agree with you! But people who are used to getting several thousands for a tax refund, when they barely paid in any, would disagree with us. They won't notice much increase in their net pay, because not much is deducted. Maybe there could still be eic and/or child tax credits, through a different avenue?
Exactly: "refundable" tax credits, where people get MORE than they paid into the system... talk about a 'vote buying' scam.
With the Fair Tax, there is a monthly "prebate" payment that is based off of the published poverty level and the Fair Tax percentage amount that would be paid on that amount would be divided into 12 monthly prebate payments to the household. He uses a family of four household as the example. The book I have was written in 2006 so the numbers are based off of what things were at that time. The rebate is to offset taxes on household necessities. As written, anyone near the poverty level would be considerably much better off with the fair tax than the current system. Too much to write in a post here, but it makes things much better. No payroll or FDIC tax either because the Fair Tax replaces those taxes as well. I have to go back and re-read the book, it has been a number of years since I've studied it.
Have you heard of the FairTax? It’s a tax on consumption. www.fairtax.org
1000%. If done right, with the 16th Amendment eliminated and the guard rails put in place, so they can't just with a simple majority increase the rate, it would be a boon for the country and for freedom. And everyone has skin in the game, and "pays their fair share" to quote the leftist totalitarian's favorite thing to screech!!! Progressive tax on income is the worst thing for economic growth.
The Sixteenth Amendment was never lawfully by any state. I read the book tens of years ago and personally observed the discrepancies. What we need from the bottom is a club with a chapter in each state doing the search in their own state to gather the complete record of the ratification. Then sue to get the various certifications of their ratifications declared legally deficient. Another chapter needs to look up the other end of the process in the National Archives so the state chapters can include that data in their suits.
The collection work was done successfully a number of years ago and recorded in a book titled The Law That Never Was. That was before the web and crowdsourcing and his ire was directed at the center and none of his legal efforts went anywhere.
DuckDuckGo just gave me a URL of the same name (which I have not visited):
https://thelawthatneverwas.com/
Dan,
The gentleman that did all the work died in 2021 at age of 94. I plan to dive into the website this weekend. Here is the opening in memoriam at the top of the website:
During the early morning hours of May 5, 2021, the honorable man William J. Benson left our good company forever.
He was born March 30, 1927 in Harvey, Illinois. He'd just turned 94. A stalwart defender of American liberty, he never wavered in his commitment to hold government accountable for its misbehaviors. Over the years he assisted many in successful defenses against a cruel, illegitimate and tyrannical tax system; those who adhered to his careful guidance were exonerated of wrongdoing.
He leaves us a legacy difficult to fulfill. He was almost larger than life. His discoveries have shaped how we see the history of our nation.
Rest in peace, Bill. You've earned it.
Thank you Dan. I have always heard that but hadn't taken the time to research it. It was one of those that was simply 'decreed' by the progressives when it got close. I'll bet Elon would be on board with looking into this. He has a complete understanding on how the income tax has ruined this country. I'd be willing to join the club.
But the rich wouldn't have to pay their "fair share." And there wouldn't be tax credits for lower income. I can imagine the push back that would get.
Robyn: That's the point, every does pay their fair share. Using 21% as the tax rate for the Fair Tax on new goods as the example: If you can afford a $100,000 boat, you would pay $21,000 in taxes on that new purchase. If I can only afford a $10,000 boat, then I pay $2,100 in taxes on that new boat. You've paid a considerable more tax based on what you can afford than I did, so you and I would both be paying "our fair share". Not sure how the leftists can use the bogus 'fair share' talking point argument when looking at those numbers. But I'm sure they still would try!!... LOL! Common sense is an uncommon virtue with the communists/socialists.
I agree with you! But people who are used to getting several thousands for a tax refund, when they barely paid in any, would disagree with us. They won't notice much increase in their net pay, because not much is deducted. Maybe there could still be eic and/or child tax credits, through a different avenue?
Exactly: "refundable" tax credits, where people get MORE than they paid into the system... talk about a 'vote buying' scam.
With the Fair Tax, there is a monthly "prebate" payment that is based off of the published poverty level and the Fair Tax percentage amount that would be paid on that amount would be divided into 12 monthly prebate payments to the household. He uses a family of four household as the example. The book I have was written in 2006 so the numbers are based off of what things were at that time. The rebate is to offset taxes on household necessities. As written, anyone near the poverty level would be considerably much better off with the fair tax than the current system. Too much to write in a post here, but it makes things much better. No payroll or FDIC tax either because the Fair Tax replaces those taxes as well. I have to go back and re-read the book, it has been a number of years since I've studied it.
I have. Also, the flat tax. What we have now isn’t right.