There is a documentary I saw years ago laying out just how the art world is basically just money laundering. When you see stuff like giant toddler scribbles on a huge canvas that is the newest phenom, it should be apparent. Then look at the wonderful local artists' works in comparison at street fairs and farmer's markets. That's where the real art is - IMHO.
I read an interesting comment on X/Twitter recently talking about the state of "modern art." The account, Fisher King, said something like: "the true test of an artist is if he or she can actually produce the real thing. For example, before Picasso went all angles and distorted features, he was trained in traditional methods and could do representational art very well. With current artists, many couldn't paint a landscape or draw using perspective if their life depended on it." He noted the same about musicians. Before Schoenberg experimented with 12 tone/atonal composition, he learned and used conventional music theory and could compose traditional music. Same with Shostakovitch, Bartok and the rest of early 20th c. composers.
Jeff is right in one sense, I think, that the art world is elitist, but on another level, score one for the reputation of conservatives as throwback troglodyte rednecks who are literalist and concrete. There are many theologians who think Christ IS the imagination. If DeSantis had said he was going to slash that budget and throw that money into music and art classes in schools, the progressives would still go mental, but there would be profound enrichment for the kids. The making of images in the brain has stopped as kids don't read or make art or music and instead they have images firehosed into their heads through tv and cell phones and pornhub and video games, and that is turning them into zombies IMHO. https://theimaginativeconservative.org/
And most of the 'product' was donated/resourced without expense from the museum. With the advent of the internet and 72 inch tv screens, anyone who wants to see art can. Is it as enriching as seeing in person? That is a never-to-be-solved debate. One can read about the Barnes Foundation history and saga, and how it was moved to Philadelphia Art Museum to see how that change was not an improvement. Museums should be self-funded at this point. Too much dreck out there now looking for a home and someone to foot the bill.
I am an art and museum lover. They generally charged admission to enter. Yet they still get tax payer money. Huh?
It sounds like they need to tighten their belts mike the rest of us.
There is a documentary I saw years ago laying out just how the art world is basically just money laundering. When you see stuff like giant toddler scribbles on a huge canvas that is the newest phenom, it should be apparent. Then look at the wonderful local artists' works in comparison at street fairs and farmer's markets. That's where the real art is - IMHO.
A giant toddler scribbling sure sounds like Hunters paintings and money laundering.
I read an interesting comment on X/Twitter recently talking about the state of "modern art." The account, Fisher King, said something like: "the true test of an artist is if he or she can actually produce the real thing. For example, before Picasso went all angles and distorted features, he was trained in traditional methods and could do representational art very well. With current artists, many couldn't paint a landscape or draw using perspective if their life depended on it." He noted the same about musicians. Before Schoenberg experimented with 12 tone/atonal composition, he learned and used conventional music theory and could compose traditional music. Same with Shostakovitch, Bartok and the rest of early 20th c. composers.
True NAB... I'd add color theory
Yes! And you can apply the same point to dancers, or even basketball players. There’s a lot more fundamentals than learning how to dunk!
I could become an artist, just throw some paint on a canvas and I am making money selling that trash.....
Exhibit A- Hunter Biden's 'art'.
If you don’t see a banana taped to the wall with duct tape, art. You just aren’t cultured enough. 🙄
The banana reference reminds me of a Monk episode in which Monk thinks he has some great artistic talent. It involves a banana. Very funny episode.
It is a very funny episode.
lol, like
Jeff is right in one sense, I think, that the art world is elitist, but on another level, score one for the reputation of conservatives as throwback troglodyte rednecks who are literalist and concrete. There are many theologians who think Christ IS the imagination. If DeSantis had said he was going to slash that budget and throw that money into music and art classes in schools, the progressives would still go mental, but there would be profound enrichment for the kids. The making of images in the brain has stopped as kids don't read or make art or music and instead they have images firehosed into their heads through tv and cell phones and pornhub and video games, and that is turning them into zombies IMHO. https://theimaginativeconservative.org/
Yes to funding music and art classes.
And most of the 'product' was donated/resourced without expense from the museum. With the advent of the internet and 72 inch tv screens, anyone who wants to see art can. Is it as enriching as seeing in person? That is a never-to-be-solved debate. One can read about the Barnes Foundation history and saga, and how it was moved to Philadelphia Art Museum to see how that change was not an improvement. Museums should be self-funded at this point. Too much dreck out there now looking for a home and someone to foot the bill.
Agreed
agree
I got my first degree in Art History, and even I'm repulsed.
It must ve hard to “watch” all of this.