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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Bluebird - I like your passion, and your scholarship.

I would ask - what is the name of "god"? If there is only one.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Very sincere, very wrong. Religion isn't about how you feel. You are caught in details and history that you don't understand. Hindu is demonic worship. Their god is the Father of lies but if course he always appears as light but his depths are darkness.

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Bluebird's avatar

Did Jesus ever teach that other religions were demonic? You fail to realize that what religion each person follows is between that person and God, and none of anyone else's business. Judge not, but you are in fact judging others of a different religion. And if you don't think religion is about how you feel, you are really missing the point. God is close to each of us according to how each of us feels about Him, no matter one's religion. God Bless and I hope you wake up to compassion and acceptance for all.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

"Did Jesus ever teach that other religions were demonic?"

As a matter of fact, He does. Many times throughout Holy Scripture in the Old Testament and the New. See 1 Cor. 10:20 and Psalm 95:5.

"But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils." 1 Cor. 10:20-21

and

"For all the gods of the nations are idols, but it is the LORD who made the heavens." Ps. 95:5

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Bluebird's avatar

I'm referring to religions that worship the One Supreme Lord. Jesus was referring to truly pagan religions, not religions that worship the One.

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AngelaK's avatar

There is a good book I once read:

https://www.amazon.com/Gurus-Young-Man-Elder-Paisios/dp/1887904166

Elder Paisios was a very holy hermit living monk in Mt. Athos, of recent times. He was as much a mystic as any Eastern religion. He knew everything and was loved for his compassion, empathy and love for anyone he met. He is now a canonozed saint in the Greek Orthodox church.

This young Greek boy who embraced Hinduism went to visit him.

It is a very good and eye opening personal story, especially about the guru the boy met in India.

Perhaps you might want to read it with an open mind and let God lead you to a conclusion. That is what the Saint did, he never prosletyzed to the young man whatsoever.

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Bluebird's avatar

I like reading true stories about mystics from every religion. I have read bios of Christian mystics, Hindu, Sufi/Moslem, Chinese, Tibetan and Jewish mystics. There are great souls from every religious tradition. They all transcend the bounds of their religious dogmas to reach the Truth. Thanks.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

They cannot all be the truth. Jesus claimed that He was the only One Way to God, The Truth and The one that gives life eternal. It's written all over in the Bible. You are either with Christ or against Him. He is the only one who can bring you to true knowledge about God. All others are imitations and worship a different god. All gods claim to be great and all want to be supreme and the one that you cannot see is the pride of knowledge in yourself. Yes you are. Yes WE ARE. AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING about it but bow down to The Way of the God/Jesus/Spirit as He has revealed Himself in the books of the Bible, written by several men as they were given what to write by Him. All other writing that were incorrect and conflicting were excluded. Only 66 necessary books and in every single one is the whole of the good news of eternal salvation and security thru the substitutional sacrificial attonement of Jesus of Nazareth, The only God/man. You need only believe and bow to Him but NO OTHER. CREATOR doesn't have to acquiesce to any other. To those who reject His truth there will rightfully be judgement and wrath as a consequence. Its the truth in every wide civil, social, historical story ever written.

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Gaye's avatar

The character of person who is the focus of your worship is what counts. None of the other “gods” was fully God and fully Man as was Jesus of Nazareth. None of them died to save us. Some of these other so-called gods did things Jesus said were damnable sins that are condemned and put him on the cross. By contrast, Jesus was sinless. All religions cannot possibly worship one “god” because their characters, teachings, and behavior are vastly different. Sorry, but the “we all worship the same god” business is a lie.

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Bluebird's avatar

By the way, there is much historical evidence that Jesus was in India during his "lost years" studying under Buddhist and Hindu gurus. https://www.infinityexplorers.com/jesus-christ-in-india/

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Concerned mom's avatar

Yeah, NO! Jesus Christ the One and Only true God, did NOT need to study under Anyone.... these are lies, lies, lies straight from hell

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Bryan Dair's avatar

What historical evidence is there for an Earthly

existence of the Jesus character?

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You don't know?! Wow! But good question. I hope you can find the truth. Never mind that time is divided by his time on earth BC and AD and how interesting and strange that ppl want so badly to remove that very interesting historical fact. There are many others.

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Gaye's avatar

All anyone has to do is call on the name of the Lord. Seek him and you will find him. Didn’t he say that? So simple even a child can find him.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Have you seen this Lord?

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Bryan Dair's avatar

It is now divided into Before Common Era and Common Era.

The existence of an Earthly Jesus is not a historical fact.

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Gaye's avatar

Josephus and others recorded events in the life of Jesus. We have the Bible, but Jesus himself is the WORD. John 1:1-3 says it:

“ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”

That’s my God. Why would I want to worship one that took children as brides or exist in the form of statues? I want the one that made the universe, walked on water, and, better still, loves us so much that he died to give us eternal life. 😉❤️

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Not a single bit of writing about Jesus was done contemporaneously

with his supposed life on Earth.

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Gaye's avatar

You said “historical” not contemporaneous. If you don’t like the Bible, Josephus had plenty to say. Indeed, Jesus’ activities were undoubtedly being recorded by his disciples while he was on earth. John was writing letters while imprisoned on the Isle of Patmos. That’s pretty early. If you need a lot of proof, look for it in experience, not in books. Remember, it’s not a religion; it’s a relationship.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Sadly you are ignorant about world history and historical writings. Of course there are the books of the Bible. Those were actually first person accounts of Jesus life but then they put them in a larger volume, called it a Bible and you despise and laugh it off.

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Bluebird's avatar

Bryan Dair, you are right that there is no historical evidence of Jesus as we know him from the New Testament, but what if Jesus' birth, name, origin and story were different from what we are told in the New Testament? No one knows the authors of the gospels and they were written after his death. But there is much historical evidence in India of Jesus where he studied under Buddhist and Hindu masters during his "lost years" and where he later continued his ministry: https://www.infinityexplorers.com/jesus-christ-in-india/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ9z_r-3tIE&list=WL&index=2

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Bryan Dair's avatar

It would hard to be more demonic than the god of the Old Testament.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You confuse Gods doings with those of sinful men. It's the difference between sacrificial love and murderous hatred. Can you tell the difference?

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Bryan Dair's avatar

In my opinion, drowning every lifeform on the planet in a flood

is pretty psychopathic. Why kill millions of innocent children

and animals? I don't believe that the humans at the time had mastered weather modification to that degree.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

He did make them all after all and He could do as He pleased with His creation and He was extremely patient and He could make it all again and did and if you decided to do the save with your creations and someone judge you and took you to court to stop you you'd be livid.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You didn't read it obviously or you might have the ability to understand what "every evil inclination to sin" means. I assume you are ok with never punishing murderers, rapists, stealing, etc etc. And I assume that you don't understand that killing children and saving them from such abuse might have actually been merciful? It's beyond us to comprehend but it's an example of how horrible ppl are at heart and how patient God is to wait and tolerate things that you and I would have "struck with lightning" for so much less. Be honest!

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Human societies have developed laws to punish people that commit crimes.

In general, the punishment fits the crime.

Your god was fond of issuing cruel and unusual punishments that were not

commensurate with the 'sin'. I honestly can't see killing innocents as merciful.

The god of the OT was an outright psychopathic killer.

12 Craziest, Most Awful Things God Did in the Old Testament

https://www.alternet.org/2014/02/12-craziest-most-awful-things-god-did-old-testament

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Bluebird's avatar

Another strange thing is how God was always talking directly to people in the OT. Then God said,"........." I don't think that OT god was God at all, frankly. Sounds more like an evil Annunaki.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

I think that the people having conversations with

imaginary friends were likely heavy opium users.

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Bluebird's avatar

🤣

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Any references? Sounds like Freemasons and Zionism.

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Bluebird's avatar

God is beyond name, but people all over the world call Him by different names.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

How do you know that this god is a him?

The earliest god worshiped by humans

was a black female.

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Bluebird's avatar

The Supreme Being is beyond him or her, white or black, yellow or brown. "Him" is just language. The Supreme Being is all pervasive, so how can He/She be either one? God created male and female.

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Gaye's avatar

God is supreme and created male and female. He exists in three “persons;” the triune God. There is no other like him.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Truth is He has no sex. He identifies as a Father and Mother but He calls Himself Him for the sake of "His Name" character as Lord so that His Earthly ppl can have a greater understanding in their own language. Are you changing and challenging how He determined to show Himself to you?

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Brian Dair, which book told you so? Are you certain of it's author and his/her knowledge or truth telling, for money?

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Bryan Dair's avatar

I have read the works of many authors that disclaim

the historicity of Jesus.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

But would they stake their lives on it....really die for what they wrote? I guess you'll never know

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Why would their lives be endangered?

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