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Yes, I agree with you about Governor DeSantis. He’s better off completing his term as Floridas Governor. The deep state would take him over the coals and devour him. Trump is much better equipped to handle them now that he’s seen their playbook! He’s going to obliterate them in his 2024 Presidential Election return.

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Better to be in charge of one of the biggest and soundest lifeboats than be awarded the vanity title of “Captain of the Titanic” just as the bow slips beneath the waves.

If DeSantis has a mission on the national stage, I think it would be in leading a revolt of the states.

There’s going to be no “savior” POTUS -- the corruption and rot are far too profound. When your house has had an uncontrolled termite infestation for decades, you’re probably better off razing it, exterminating the white ants and starting again. Pretending otherwise just prolongs the misery: the day of reckoning will come one way or another.

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Further agreed...FIRE them ALL. Elect a new congress, put the Administrative Pension state on the street.

Guess what...they can all survive on a SELF-FUNDED!!! 401k or SepIRA just like the rest of us deplorables

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Actually you would be asking people who have an annual salary of $140k plus junkets and trappings to voluntarily give those up for a pension of at least $50k. Few of us deplorable have such security; not to mention we are allowed that after we are 67 and age going up, whereas they get it from day one! Problem is they hold the pie and the knife!

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Lol...yes that is right. Although there's there's no voluntary about it. Fire them all...the Admin. Branch is so bloated its worse the a 3 day old dead cow.

The ancient writer mentioned this...summarizing: whenever there is a society rife with corruption and bribes look up and see that there is an administrator and another over him and another one higher still.

In other words, the fatter a government gets....buckle up because you won't see justice or Integrity for a very long time.

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I agree...the Constitution puts far more nation saving capacity in the States and trust by the way. We need him winning like a UFC Champion in a state post more than getting into a decision-match in the Swamp.

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So, why don't you guys support an Article V convention? They can only vote on the pre-designated items. Term limits is one of them on the agenda. Look up the COS Convention of States site.

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This is the group that is slowly making that happen: https://www.termlimits.com

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Nice thought. Absolutely impossible to achieve outside of a second civil war...assuming the good guys win.

Right now I do not imagine enuf military or police personel would jump on board. Very unlikely to garnish even 1% of needed defenders to win anything...other than wet dreams. But...here I am...in Trudoland...with nothing but socialist fascists in every direction I look.

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I wish he would lead a States revolt! Have him start with Indiana! They need help getting out from under all the RINOs.

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And, did you know that Indiana is the chief "clearinghouse" for human traffic'ng in the US? Clean out the lizards and snakes where they are entrenched. Mike Pence is one of the biggest lizards of all.

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Nothing would surprise me.

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I was originally from Indiana and you are RIGHT! Nobody gets into politics there without the help of Eli Lilly. Sad but true. RINO country because of that.

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Between the "acronym agencies" in the Federal government and the huge pharma stronghold on our "health"care system--WE THE PEOPLE are besieged--and, sadly, most citizens DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT!!

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I know. And it has to do with what news media they have become hypnotized by.

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Absolutely! When I share what I have learned by being online and doing my own research--most of my friends and family look at me as though I am certifiably "mad"--and guess who's actually "mentally ill"!! Not I...said the "little red hen"!

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Absolutely! Sharon - honestly didn’t know that. 😞 Tell me more.

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You'll get more information by doing your own research. The "subterranean Web" is a good place to start, Lora. Happy researching--it's good for your soul--truly.

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I will share this op ed article written 7 years ago by a faith-based leader of group that assists in advocating for victims of human trafficking-- start there and you will find many other articles about Indiana and WHY it is a "hub" for trafficking in humans (particularly young women)! https://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/2019/04/07/op-ed-indiana-hub-sex-trafficking-but-hoosiers-can-help-rescue-victims/3378216002/

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Heartbreaking.

Our Bible Study group has been fasting and praying for the youth of our community and nation. We often drive around the schools in our area and pray for everyone, from the janitor up to the school board.

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If governors use his model (and learn from his mistakes) the country would turn around, state by state.

To do that we have to get good governors and good state legislators in, and fix the broken voting system.

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"...get good governors and good state legislatures...," 😂🤣😂🤣 Slapping my knee!

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💯 Well said! 👍

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I am so confused over everyone’s devoted Trump support. So it took him 4 years to study the playbook, play along with operation warp speed, falter on election integrity, spend like the democrats, and now supporters wait on, “the plan.” It is amazing how much grace he gets. Yes, he had some good policies, but I’m not seeing a proven conservative. Is everyone okay with his repeated and unnecessary promotion of the covid vaccine?

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He also offered alternative treatments (ivermectin) and was vilified and the treatments blocked from purchase. DeSantis pushed the vaccines at every press conference. We have very short memories as a ppl. He also brought companies back to the U.S., got tarrif payments for our farmers, allowed citizens the "right" to try medical alternatives for cancer, etc. I could go on, but I haven't seen ANY other politician do a smidgen of these things. Plus he's the only guy not bought or owned which is a HUGE deal!

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I think it was Hydroxychloroquine that Trump promoted and got vilified for. Why did he leave Fauci in his position, after he humiliated Trump over that issue?

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He had to weigh reactions in that very explosive time. He already had everyone operating against him. What do you suppose would have been the reaction had he ‘fired’ Anthony Fauci?

He was also having to figure all this out in real time. I had deep, deep compassion for him and still do.

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Agreed. It would be fitting for Trump to get his 2nd term back.

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My biggest concern about DeSantis is the RINOS who have jumped on his bandwagon, notably Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush and Mitch McConnell. Trump isn’t beholden to anyone and has seen the corruption and betrayal in the swamp. He knows who the traitors are. A big part of the learning curve has taken place. And he was robbed of his second term.

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I can forgive many of the errors made in the fog of war. But now it's hindsight and he STILL brags on OWS being his crowning achievement that saved the world.

I can't get back on the Trump train if he doesn't get right on that.

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I’m at the point where they ALl seem like different veggies in the same putrid stew. Some are a little more palatable than others until you notice them crawling out of the same pot. Nice money in being stewed though. Same pot plot.

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One day you will see what OWS really was. It wasn't about the vaccines that you THINK. It was about the millions of poisonous viles that were taken out of circulation.

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Joe Biden is a bad president but somehow he managed to fire Fauci with no blowback.

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Hmm, I haven't heard that before. My impression was that Fauci would have wanted to stay forever, but with congress switching parties and tea leaves indicating the gain of function s#$* likely to hit the fan, he "retired" because there's less accountability as a civilian than an active government employee. He's smart enough to quit while he's ahead.

Do you have any links documenting that Biden pushed Fauci out against his will?

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Fauci was not fired.

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Fauci resigned, he wasn’t fired.

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He didn't fire Fauci. Give me a break.

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He offered both HCQ and Ivermectin, as well as some experimental treatments being used at the time. That’s why deep state came so hard on the Ivermectin and HCQ.

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Plus, there could not be any known effective treatment if the shots were going to get EUA, so they just let people die.

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Ivermectin and HCQ were very well KNOWN treatments. One only had to do the research, as well as realize that if the left and their thugs in the media were screaming against it .......it must work.

That’s how most of us knew where the Truth lays. It’s the absolute opposite of whatever the RATS, RINOS and media are saying.

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Exactly, Anne!

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If Trump hadn’t put fauci front and center, I doubt that the general public would be finding out about the Wuhan lab leak today. I suspected it in February 2020. I had no doubt it was a Bioweapon.

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No doubt whatsoever. The panic of it all gave it away.

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Anne...Trump did not have enough intel that was truly honest about what Fauci and his henchmen were up to all over the globe with their "bioweapon research labs". If he had been permitted to another 4 years--he would have figured it out.

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I don’t understand why Trump has not rescinded his support of the vax. I, too, think he didn’t have enough Intel, but the truth is out now, and he has not given any indication that he has changed his mind about it.

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There are much larger "fish to fry" - that's where DJT is spending his time and energy, I would believe. He has always said NO MANDATES for the jab!! If he had still been POTUS the mandates would NEVER have happened. Private industry followed the "bidding" of the government "leaders"---and thus hundreds of millions of people are still suffering injury from that bioweapon jab.

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Trump promoted both IVM and HCQ, (which had saved his life, because he listened to Dr Zelenko), and said jabs should NOT be mandated.

He even posted dozens of tweets and was vilified every step by the Narrative Media. Orange Man bad syndrome, and all that. Mutiny was everywhere in his administration and the Feds generally.

Fauci led the COVID task force meetings by his position and a seeming voice of calm. He fed only what he wanted them to know, and crafted the snakey language that everyone believed.

For example, when Fauci was asked whether natural immunity was as or more effective than the jabs, his answer was

“Well, we don’t know how long it will last. Get vaccinated.”

The translation of Fauci’s answer is

“Yes. We know it lasts a long time but can’t say exactly how many years. Get vaccinated.”

Its in a video clip.

That answer was the devil’s own deception in the garden - both the commission of lies, and intentional omission of truths which is to lie.

No one can fire the person holding Fauci’s title except for Fauci’s boss who was in in the gain of function business and the pharma revolving door scam with Fauci, and Fauci’s wife, who is the ethics director.

Be very careful of his replacement who is rabidly worse and not even as smart.

We also should put a stop to fireproofing that position’s tenure, but not in an overreaction mode. Always consider that the pendulum swings both ways.

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EXACTLY!! That pudgy guy with the sickening demeanor--is he going "replace" Falseci?? HEAVEN HELP US!!

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He wasn’t in the office very long when Covid hit it goes to Biden who keeps paying them to make more viruses. Oh Biden’s best friend Facie Fauci made the virus.

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I 2nd this...

Perhaps "Trumping" all that even still, he withdrew us from the WHO and de-funded it to some degree at least.

That may be the utter destruction of our Constitutional gov...if we don't stop the push from WHO this very month.

I watched from within the Stage dept/mil under Sec.Cli. under the Obamanator the setup for the globalists to sidestep the Constitution. We had better pray. They have nearly finished the job.

We shall see...

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also withdrew Paris accords and was pissed about UN / NATO funding disparities...

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Obamanation was "groomed" to set up the framework to DESTROY our Constitutional Republic. I'm certain he DESPISES the USA!! Now he has a deluxe gated "mansion" in D.C. from which he runs his THIRD term in office as POTUS.

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The bottom line difference is that DeSantis woke up a long time ago. Trump is still on the same page...unwilling or unable to see the truth about the vaccines.

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I do recognize all the good that Trump did and he was there for that season. But I do not see him turning around on this Covid jab. I wish he would speak out more against those who imprisoned J6 political prisoners. It’s very bewildering I don’t really trust anyone these days. DeSantis for a short while did support the vaccines, but once he found out the truth, and he hired that man, his surgeon general things started to roll. I know this because daily I read coffee and Covid and Jeff keeps me informed.

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I suspect the J6 prisoners might have been treated even worse if Trump spoke out more.

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You are probably right. I hadn't considered that. Thanks for commenting.

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Trump speak out more about J6 prisoners? Are you kidding? After Tuckers initial reveal, Trump immediately called for their release....and he's called for the J6 Committee to be tried for treason. That's WAY more than DeSantis is saying.....crickets! What more do you want him to say????

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Guess you haven't heard.... last night Trump released his first song on Truth Social. It rocketed to #1 on the charts at itunes. Higher than Mylie Cyrus and Tim McGraw. Proceeds going to help the families of jailed Jan6er's. They are on the song as well.

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It’s better to remember the biggest problem with the vax were the mandates. Everyone wanted the vax to work ....EVERYONE. The bigger issue was the unconstitutional vaccine mandate.

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Everyone did not want the injection to work -- all the people who already knew that no vaccine "works."

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The MANDATE was the problem.

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Not true at all. I saw a video of Trump back a few years where he was speaking the truth of all vaccines and noting the terrible damage they were causing with autism. We are all naive if we think he had any other alternative that wasn't MUCH worse than the way it went. At least, he tried to give us alternative choices and talked of other things acting as vaccines. That's part of living in a free country. You have the right to not believe everything someone tells you without searching it out for yourself. Because we glibbly believed everything the "experts" told us does not alleviate our own responsibility to do our own research. The label: EXPERIMENTAL VACCINES should have been the catalyst to hesitate, but everyone was too driven by fear and too brainwashed to think you can read for yourself and come up with a conclusion. And this complacent approach is in every venue of our lives. You gotta wonder....why did good people readily admit our government cheated in elections ...admit there was a deep state....realize MSM was lying to us. .but turned around and believed the establishment about vaccines and masks? And I hold every doctor that succumbed to this nonsense as guilty because they KNEW the truth about viruses and how they worked AND immune systems. Basic medical 101. It's WAY too late to pawn things off on the only guy who made a true attempt to help us..

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Why? bc of the Narrative Media. Designed and paid to do exactly what you described.

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A long time ago? Nah. DeSantis only woke up when he saw the people loved Trump and loved how tough he was. That was when DeSantis grew a spine and a pair.

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I’ve heard it said that DJT received more than 80 million votes in 2020. Nothing he has done since Nov ‘20 is likely to change their opinions of him, and many have since come around to DJT’s side since then. I think Trump is a proven leader and he deserves to be in the White House. I am a FL Native and I love our Gov but I want him to finish out his second term as Governor before attempting to save the country.

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Remember he was one man against the machine. He virtually had no support

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And what makes you think this time will be different? A rino by any other name is still a rino

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I would never call Donald Trump a Rino. You need to get a dictionary or something. He’s not a Rino. He’s the enemy to the Rinos : Romney, Cheney, Mitch Occonnel, etc. You just need to be a little bit more educated I guess on what that means. Republican in Name Only.

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You clearly don't know what a RINO is. The United States are fortunate to have him in our corner. Did you get vaxxed? If you're not dead or injured, chances are it's because of DONALD TRUMP.

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I love it when trolls and bots decide they are intellectuals and start commenting. Their comments inevitably reveal what they are.

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I'd bet I could run you right back into your chicken house with my intellect, given your inane comments. You don't present well.

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I am not okay with that! He needs to admit he was wrong about the shots.

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Anne, I am as anti-vax as anyone can be, and understand your point. However, Trump has better political instincts than anyone I know of, so I am trusting that when the time is right (and it's getting closer as more is revealed about the corruption) he will deal with that. Navarro has expressed the talking points very well..

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Agreed, but he may well do like Jeff guessed and play both options to see if the media will praise him for one or the other!

As long as he preserves medical free choice and crushes the WHO/UN I don't think I'll get too bothered if he would rather use this to get a checkmate on the Leftie media.

But free-choice and demolishing the Public Health apparatus are not negotiable.

Never trust those godless earth-worshippers twice.

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So don’t be okay.

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Operation Warp Speed WAS NOT about getting vaccines to Americans. It was really about confiscating millions of poisonous viles of vaccines before they hit the market. He saved millions of lives by having the military covertly confiscating these poisonous vaccines. He was mislead and he got most of the poison off the market but he wasn't able to get all of it.

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Where do you read this Lisa? I’d like to think it was true, but it sounds much like another “white hat” saving the day for which we see no validation.

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You will see your validation to this at some point. I can tell you it's true. Trump is well aware of the upset people have over this OWS and he still speaks to the millions of lives he has saved. It's true. Our military risked their lives, once again, to save millions at the behest of our President. The enemy wanted to put us down and take over the continental US (think Israel and Palestine, the Israelis just moved into their homes when the coffee cups on the breakfast tables still had warm coffee in them) and it would have been easy peasy, even with all the guns. If you've seen any of the adverse reactions from the clinical trials that Pfizer sponsored, you'll have gladness in your heart for what Trump did.

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Interesting. I learned today that some of the MRNA jabs were placebos.

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Other info says we were supposed to be in lockdown with nonstop MSM Narrative fed to us for 2 years in isolation until we begged for a vax. This would have totally destroyed economies and minds.

And voila there would be the Plan’s “savior” vax. The 2 year vax was supposed to be much more deadly and jab rate much faster. Trump rushed it out and we got the half baked version EUA’d. And declared it should be only voluntary and in US IVM and HCQ with D3 and other simple vitamins and supplement treatments.

Biden made it mandatory.

Biden took away treatments.

Biden paid for his narrative media.

In my readings the 2 year lockdown psyop scenario is by bad mil but unclear about who is behind them and who is the actual target.

Idk how the 2 year lockdown plan could have been hijacked by a good mil. There don’t seem to be many left and they are flying low to stay alive.

It would make a good movie plot; we know most of the actors. I would like to know the names of the director and producer though.

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JFK, Jr. is alive. He saw that his plane was tampered with a bomb and he asked people he knew to help him fake his death. He's been in the ethers ever since with the righteous military that follow their oath to hold to the Constitution. They have been working on this for years. Their main goal is to wake the sleeping Americans up to the heinous crimes that have gone on for decades and more by the so-called "swamp". People don't want to wake up. Pizzagate is REAL and the inhumane crimes against humanity are REAL, which is exactly WHY Trump created the EO's that he did. We are talking about TRiLLIONS in cash and assets confiscated. The CA bank that just went down has serious ties to human trafficking and adrenochrome production and sales. Our debt will be paid and humanity will get the real "reset" we need. We have to weather the storm while the sleeping idiots wake the hell up so we never find ourselves here, again. The USA is on the verge of Age of Enlightenment but we have to go through what we have to go through to get there. There will be more loss of life and no one knows who that will be but these animals we are contending with don't care...they don't care. They believe they are Gods and we are a lesser species than them and they will destroy as much as they can and take as many of us as they can on their way out. We have to continue to have faith and trust. It's a tall order but if the children that sit in dog crates right now waiting for transfer to their buyers can hold on, if women who are trafficked and sold 30 or more times per day can hold on, if parents who have had their children stolen can hold on....then we can hold on. Pushing the tides does nothing but waste your energy and dampen your Spirit further. Hang in there, it will get better than better.

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I really wish out of 350 million Americans there was a better choice for President than gongshow TV hosts like Trump. Someone who works well with both sides to make America the best it can be.

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Both sides cannot be worked with. This isn’t D vs R. It is good vs evil and the two cannot and will not and should not be combined to work together. That ship sailed. The only one in 350 million people who can bring both sides together to work well together, will be the antichrist. There is only One Savior and it isn’t any man.

Although I do understand where you are coming from and what you are saying……We have to stop pretending like good and evil should be able to work together for the better of humanity. One is good and one is evil. There’s no middle ground there.

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Well said Sunny. We are way past “crossing the aisle” to get things accomplished. That worked in the 50’s and early 60’s when there was far more integrity in our national life. Now, for a good longtime, the only ones who “cross the aisle” are RINOS. We must realize that now there are two visions of how our country should be. Jane Fonda and The View ladies are a good example. We are a house divided and I have it on good authority that the house cannot stand. And like you, I wonder if this is the time when sexual chaos, lawlessness, apostasy, famine, pestilence and the like will set the stage for the final Antichrist. We just have to stay the course.

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Credenda…nice comment. It’s reminds me of how long I’ve hated that well-worn phrase from politicians…”my friends across the aisle”. It always made me want to scream, They’re Not Your Friends! Or shouldn’t be.

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Yes. It's the people vs. the oligarchs who want us in chains, or dead.

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You are 100% correct. This is a war with good and evil. God versus Satan. The prize is mankind. Yes the antichrist will come on the scene as the savior of the world. But we know what will happen. America has to be taken out of the way in order for the one world order and the antichrist to rule. They are working hard on that and America is falling. People think she can be saved. I’m sorry it looks like AMerica is going down. Our money has to be removed. Digital dollars so they can control us. They have to get rid of our guns. And they have occupied ,the evil ones , all the schools now with perverts so they can get the hearts and minds of our children. As for me, I belong to Jesus. My life is in his hands has been for 38 years. I know who wins I read the end of the story.

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Great, concise answer. Very hard for most to swallow...but will prove itself in time. Even so...most will still wallow in their insanity.

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Amen! Sunnydaze

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The issues is on what side of the line you're standing on, cause the other side will always be the Evil side :/

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I understand your point, I think, but I will maintain evil is recognizable to one’s who are not “religious” even. Evil will say they are good and call good evil….I think is your point? And the Bible foretold of this too. Good will be called evil and evil will be called good.

But the truth is still the truth and by any moral and biblical standards I know what is evil and what’s not. On the solid rock I stand and I know the difference between good and evil.

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Right ON baby!

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Nobody can work well with communist, except for another communist. That is what the Democrat party has become. If you think anything can go back to normal, you are sadly mistaken.

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Very funny- gongshow lol- blast from the past. Unfortunately there is a side that will never work with anyone to make the US the best it can. It has to falter for globalism to be the only solution. Unfortunately that side is constituted by more than just Dems.

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He must’ve been underwater during Trump’s four year term. He did more for this country in four years than any president before him. 

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Obama gets elected and before he is even sworn in is awarded the Nobel Peace prize! (What a joke). Trump gets elected and before he is sworn in - and through this presidency - all you hear about is Russia, ivermectin, and everything in between!

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You should be kissing Donald Trump's boots.

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We all should, dear. It’s obvious that you are here to sneer at us all. Hope you’re having fun and, as my Mom used to say “Be careful, or your face will freeze like that!”

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Both sides, up to this point, are the uniparty. Both sides are corrupt. What are we saying?

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Agreed...see my previous comment on firing the entire Admin branch. Reduce the guvment's annual budget by 90%.

It always works.

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You mean, like Biden? Or Newsome? Or Whitmer? Or Hochul?

I do not want anyone working well with both sides right now. That's what Romney and McConnell and Thune and Rounds supposedly do - work with the other side - by amputating the new GOP House legs a week before they were sworn in.

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Gongshow host! OMG. That made me LOL.

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That sounds like liberal speak to call Trump that. He has some warts, but he has the wealth to be a viable candidate.

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You do have to admit that every time they came at Trump, he always pointed out their ridiculous ways. We are the audience and the whole world is The Gong Show. I am madly ringing my bell....get those idiots off the stage!! For what it is worth, Trumps America is much preferred by this girl than Biden's Freak Show.

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You think you can reason with Karl Marx???

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These ‘coexist’ people think you can live with those who want us dead. Lol. They’re ‘special’.

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Isn’t that the current clown Biden promised us he would be?

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Both sides suck.

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We need a dragon slayer. Sadly, the time for Statesmen Is past. They are extinct.

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Agreed. I do find his personality abrasive at times I don’t like his name calling. But he’s not stupid and he made some good decisions for the most part until Covid hit. That was a hard one. I think DC is such a swamp whoever goes into that White House. It will be a mess especially if they’re a Republican and especially if they’re not a Rino. I believe our government has been totally captured, and it’s such a mess. Only God himself can help us, but God has been kicked out of America’s government schools. You name it ….sad. Disastrous for our children🥲

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Trump is a disrupter. In business a disrupter is brought in to save a business. Many times the execs can’t do it themselves. Disrupter routes out waste, bad apples, and excess weight, and reorients the “ship” in the right direction, without any legacy ties to cronies.

Painful and necessary, never popular. They move on when their job is done. Idk how people can do that, but it’s a rare skill set.

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You know that makes perfect sense. I wish Trump had disrupted a bit more though as far as not cleaning out the swamp like the FBI and using Fauci. And listening to them. Do you know Fauci in on the record for declaring that there would be a pandemic break out in Trump’s term. And now we found out that it was all planned. But alas Trump is a human being. There’s no perfect human. No perfect president. Some more than others. Thank you.

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Trump started off good, but I think someone had something on him. It was obvious at the end that he was controlled. Why did he surround himself with swamp creatures? I have read that George Soros loaned him a lot of money on one of his NY condo deals.

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Trump is a disrupter. In business a disrupter is brought in to save a business. Many times the execs can’t do it themselves. A disrupter routes out toxic or excess waste, lifts the rocks to find which insects underneath have symbiotic relationships, provisions the “ship” with food and fuel, and reorients the ship in the right direction.

A disrupter is painful and necessary, never popular. Not cuddly. They move on when their job is done. Idk how people can do that, but it’s a rare skill set. And sometimes the disrupter is gong a show host in disguise.

I’m not particularly a Trump fan but appreciate disruptions and shining a light on the consPIRACY against America.

A lot of corruption has been exposed in the last 6 years that has been going on for decades, bringing to light deeds done in darkness for decades.

-FDA/CDC/Pharma captured industry

-Media as government paid narrative mouthpiece and social enforcer

-mechanisms put in place by obominaton to bring CIA into US soil

-RINOs

-election mules breaking the law, lack of solid election laws and practices

-whistleblowers

-spotlight on boy, girl, women sex trafficking

-political crime families and their “foundations” (Clintons, Bidens, Pelosis...)

-gain of function - US labs around the world

-Fauci

-malleability of people, and discovery of people who are immune or who catch on faster.

-agility of technology to set up alternate culture (news, financial, medical)

And so many more.

From 2016-2020 Trump made the country healthier economically and strategically even while doing it with one hand tied behind his back by the media (fabrications and allegations, mutinies, traitors).

We need that work to be completed and now that the masks are off and we know where people stand, Trump could finish the job, paving the way for DeSantis. Get the boulders broken down into rocks, so the rocks can be broken down and a highway built.

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This is actually the best description of how Trump functions that I've ever seen. This is a really sound description! I still think DeSantis is a Trojan Horse as evidenced even by his Disney "tough talk but nothing changed" result. And Disney "contributed" a mighty fine donation to his campaign fund as a result as well. He's another opportunistic politician who happens to be a RINO....talks big and accomplishes very little, but the people all flock to believe him because he tells us what we want to hear.

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You’re way too naive.

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THAT right there is my problem with Trump. But, I have lived and traveled across the country in Trumps America and Bidens....I prefer Trumps America. But the OWS is just too much. Bah!!

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I agree that the vaccine thing is a problem, however, look at where the country was before COVID thanks to his policies. Most of us no longer care about labels, we want results. And Trump delivered.

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No one that I know ever called him a Conservative. But yes. We give him grace, because he was surrounded by evil, corrupt men, even in his administration. He has gone through a hell of an education for the last 8 years.

The DeSantis thing is coming from Deep Stste to divide and conquer. If you cannot see that, I pray that the scales fall from your eyes so that you can see what is really going on, otherwise, you will fall into the trap the DS is setting.

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Well if doubt that even “you” would have known how to handle COVID when the so called experts in medicine were telling you that thousands would die. We had a booming economy, energy independence, freeedddoom

And no threat of war...go figure!

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As written by another poster, johnnyfandango:

"President Trump’s first choice was to make therapeutics available such as hydroxychloroquine. He pushed Modi in India to reluctantly part with some of his supply. Because of Pres Trump’s actions we had ample stores of hydroxychloroquine ready to dispense.

What happened next? Our enemies launched a multifrontal attack on hydroxycholrooquine. The Lancet one of the world’s premiere medical journals publishing a study of 900,000 people shockingly showing hydroxychloroquine was dangerous and ineffective.

Problem was the study never happened, a complete hoax. The Lancet eventually admitted this and withdrew the paper after scientists around the world started asking how they never heard of the study. But the damage had been done. Hydroxychloroquine was smeared and taken off the table as a possible treatment.

Then the states blue and red locked us down. President Trump had no authority to impose or lift lockdowns. That authority rested with the states. And the states were not going to let go of the lockdowns. WEF was delighted, as Covid was seen as a gift to bring on the Great Reset. Lockdowns were planned by globalists to continue thru 2026-2028 by which time there would be no economy left to support people’s survival.

During the lockdowns regular medical care was impacted. Most non-Covid procedures and diagnostics were indefinitely postponed. People with cancer and heart issues didn’t get needed surgeries. Other medical procedures indefinitely delayed. Screenings and diagnostics didn’t happen so people were left undiagnosed, untreated.

How many more would have died of lack of medicare care if the lockdowns went on to 2026 or 2028 as globalists desired?

How many would starve under the ruins of an economy destroyed by the states’ lockdown madness should lockdowns have continued for many more years?

What freedoms would remain after many more years of dictatorial emergency rule at the state level?

So as captain of the ship President Trump was faced with a decision. Sometimes there are no good choices at all –a Kobayashi Maru situation.

He chose the only route that the states would accept as the price they demanded to lift their lockdowns. Vaccines or Lockdowns. If President Trump were still in the Oval Office in 2021, there would have been no mandates. And he would have continued to push to provide alternative therapeutics as he did with monoclonal antibodies.

Many died from the vaccine, but many also would have died if he couldn’t get the states to lift their lockdowns.

—-Death from lack of access to medical services.

—-Death from a permanently destroyed economy where people could no longer feed and house themselves.

He made a choice that in my view was the only route open to save the country and save lives and pull us back from the decimation of our freedoms under lockdown rule. Who’s to blame? Biden, Pharmaceutical companies, Bill Gates who heavily funds the WHO, WEF, China, feckless judges and corrupt politicians at the state level–they are to blame.

And lastly, any candidate trying to hold a fig leaf over their own responses will not do well to try to make a holier than thou argument regarding their pandemic response –no one. Right now there’s lots of revisionist history that will not survive a look under the hood of each candidates actions these last years."

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It is funny, isn’t it, that someone thinks they could have done a better job, when all the world was against him? Not funny, as I lol. Butt funny, as in, ‘their cornbread isn’t cooked in the middle’.

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He never promoted Mandating the covid vaccine.

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Trump has a huge EGO Which is l believe why he allowed the bioweapon promoters to snow him so he could "bring out" a vaccine FAST basically to prove he could. It was already out and over 20 years old and already proven as an animal kill shot.

His continued push and anybody else that still pushes it is to me a purposefull failure to admit a horrible mistake.

When he was in office however my own business was much better. People retirement portfolio was great.

If it is Trump against Biden again I will vote for Trump but more than likely like last time my vote won't count.

It is at the point that ONLY GOD can fix this mess!

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My husband and I were just talking about how God is sovereign over all of this. He allowed Trump (and Biden) to get into office, but I now think perhaps the reason for Trump being in office was not to save the country, but to take us that much closer to the chaos of the end times. I believe Trump genuinely wanted to help our country, but he couldn't be allowed by the globalists to do so.

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He never even controlled the legislative branch...not even close with all the RINOs. How could one fail to understand the profound wins he took for Conservatism thru sheer negotiation mastery considering that he was otherwise hamstrung as a Pres??

I got no answer for the Vax thing...except like Jeff surmised. He could loose me there.

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He could lose you there? Why?

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Are you okay with Ron's promotion of the vaccine and lockdowns?

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I'm not promoting DeSantis for president, but I am more forgiving of those who changed their stance and admitted they were wrong, than those (like Trump) who refuse to acknowledge any wrong.

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Trump does need to come out against the shots but he was always against lockdowns and mandates. I believe he is trying to coalition build. Who is gonna vote for the guy who actively demonizes the majority of the country (the vaccinated)? He should say he was lied to by Birx and Fauci. I mean let's be real he was mislead and betrayed by 90% of his team. We ALL thought for a few years that the GOP was actual opposition to the dems. He should have known better though.

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Politically, he should admit he was wrong and take responsibility as many times as Biden admits he was wrong and takes responsibility.

There is no grace given in politics for mea culpas, so a demand for "repentance" is a nonstarter.

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Interesting point. But in winning the next chess move it might be too much to demonize jab-receivers besides just being too far generally.

Now demonizing MANDATES!? That's a different thing.

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And you are God so we know you’re right!

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No, but I have an opinion just as you do. I am a follower of Christ and do not believe there is any candidate who can save us, if indeed we are under God's judgment, as it appears. Donald Trump was a good president overall and he should be in office now instead of the senile, illegitimate clown who is there, but God is sovereign over all of this.

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I'm okay with course correction when it became clear that the CDC and FDA were lyin' liars. Other governors didn't do that.

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People ignore this fact because they are morons.

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So many of the comments assume if you question Trump then you must support DeSantis. We don’t even know who’s running! And curiously, Trump adding to the deficit like he did is directly associated with inflation. We weren’t paying the piper when he was in office, but we are now. And Biden just helped by warp speeding the impact of inflation. Ultimately, we would have ended up here by many years of terrible fiscal policy by BOTH R‘S & D’s. I think a second term Trump would be a disaster, but so is Biden. So let’s talk about RFK Jr ;).

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I appreciate RFK Jr's book exposing Fauci. And I appreciate his clarion call about vaccine injuries to thousands and thousands of children. But he has the charisma of a potato and has zero chance of winning a nomination much less the presidency. He is a Democrat through and through with the exception of the vaccine thing, and he is an uncritical admirer of his rapist murderer Uncle Teddy.

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If RFK and Trump are our choices I don't even care who wins lol

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Not ok with his promotion of the COVID Vaccine.I do believe he left to many decisions to people who were knowledgeable in that area.They chose to give him bad advice.Don’t think he will make the same mistake twice.

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He didn't promote the vaccine, he promoted Operation Warp Speed and that is NOT a promotion of the vaccine. It was a promotion to confiscate millions of poisonous vaccines before they went into circulation. It will all come out and I can tell you faithfully that Trump has NO REASON to apologize.

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I am most definitely NOT ok with his repeated promotion of the not safe and not effective vax. He must evolve on this issue!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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DeSantis is a trojan horse for globalism. Trump for sure and MAYBE Pompeo can handle the deep state.

I dont trust anyone who the media loves and the media loves DeSantis!

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I don't trust Pompeo. He quashed release of JFK documents with some very sketchy rhetoric about 'protecting people'.

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He is a former director of the CIA. That alone makes me question his complete allegiance to the American people. We've all seen what the CIA and FBI really are and of what they are capable.

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Pompeo???? You mean “we lied, we cheated, we stole, hah , hah, hah???

That pompeo? He could handle the deep state because he is the deep state!

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I concede that and you May be correct on Pompeo. 100% True.

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The media loves DeSantis??? On which planet?

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The media will only fawn over a GOP candidate until he’s the nominee against the Democrat. They’re looking for the weakest or easiest candidate to beat. Then they will trash them like they’ve done to Trump. Haven’t we all learned by now that the media is against us??

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Exactly

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Gov. DeSantis is being touted by Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan, 2 never Trump RINOS......please stay in Florida and continue being a great governor. I hope Gov. DeSantis hasn't been doing all the good things he has done for Florida only to draw people away from supporting President Trump in 2024. His association with RINOS is quite concerning for me. President Trump needs to finish what he started.... we don't have time for on-the-job training. We can look at Gov. DeSantis in 2028 and assess then.

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I want our country's top peacetime president, President Donald J. Trump, back in our nation's driver's seat where he can do more to govern and ensure freedoms for America as well as for those countries wherein leaders were counterproductive and dangerous for the world.

Peace and prosperity!

Let's refresh our understanding of what PDJT has done in four short years:

https://truthandliberty.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL-1.pdf

Candidates with bulk funding from deep state sources (e.g., Mitch McConnell, Club of Growth, Wall Street, etc.) deserve our mistrust and hesitancy.

Candidates with support from war-mongering groups (e.g., Bush Family, FOX news, etc.) deserve our mistrust and hesitancy.

Candidates that lead with political hiding and opacity (e.g., Mar-a-Largo, Disney, vaccines, etc.) deserve our mistrust and hesitancy.

That said, Governor DeSantis should remain in Florida where he can continue his gubernatorial successes... why? He needs to earn a great deal more trust to lead our complex nation. Voters are clearly indicating he falls short at this time (e.g., various polls, supporter/voter crowds at public events, CPAC avoidance, MSM puff pieces & infomercials, etc.).

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Exactly. His reasons for running are very clear by the supporters he has! This dude does not care for America the way we need to be cared for. We will never be a super power with Desantis...it will be much like Billy Clinton in office, just looking good, strutting around and showing off! It's terrible he is even considering this. If he thinks the entire USA is his niche in Florida, he is crazy as a bat!

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I totally agree. If the Rats RINOS and media love him? Leave him where he is.

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"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" DeSantis is running against Trump. They MSM pretend to accept him. Also, in the polls, for what they are worth (not much) Biden does better against DeSantis than against Trump at this juncture. This is so-called love of DeSantis is just gaming the electorate. Remember in the last cycle Dems funded so called MAGA candidates in the primaries? It was a strategy that I think helped them in some purple states.

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DeSantis is controlled opposition!

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Yep! Truth!!!!

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So the "people" shouldn't have gone to a rally over a stolen election? We should have just stayed home accepting it like the plandemic? Once again, this was a complete set up as is and has been proven and just exposing more of this corruption to the core. We cannot sit idly by and let them ruin America and the more rallies the better!! MAGA!!!!

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You know what gets me? There are 330 million people living in the USA and only a hand full of the folks there were “violent” damaging property. By the government’s own talking points this was a “mostly peaceful protest” and that somehow demonstrated that the one third that didn’t get the shot were trying to kill. Ludicrous! The only ones there to creat mischief were those that the DAs across the country won’t prosecute for truly heinous crimes. I mean who knew you could get arrested for climbing a wall and breaking a few windows when there is no penalty for pushing another person in front of an oncoming subway train?

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All I’m saying, it’s from a strategic point of view, the rally was a disaster, and no one was there to look into what would have happened, and what ultimately did happen, with having that rally in that location. I do believe it was a set up, and Trump played into their hands. To me that does not show a leader who is capable of looking into and understanding strategic opposition. Which is exactly what happened that day.

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It is BECAUSE OF that rally that people like you have been able to SEE the truth of how deeply evil the left is. You need to do Mor thinking and less ‘feeling’. They are playing on the emotions of the ever-wavering middle. And just to be honest, I’m tired of boneless people. My kids would do that when they were little, just go boneless. It’s time for us to grow up and get an understanding of just what kind of deep-shit we are in

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As submitted by poster, Regitiger, on March 7, 2023

I think most (not all, but a large number ) of people are totally missing what happened ..and why this happened on Jan 6.

I am going to try my best to outline the events that day…blast past the commonly held assumptions and get right down to the core corruption.

I will present this as a series of questions and answers.

q1: how do you prevent congress from delaying the certification of state electoral votes?

a: it requires a crisis. A crisis that creates an “emergency”…An “emergency” that invokes special house rules.

facts: remember, carefully…focus please…remember…just moments... literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions to suspend the certification the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers. It was at this time that key people: Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell can be seen being walked out and escorted from the chamber. This effectively halted the Entire Chamber Process.

q2: why was it necessary to halt the chamber process

a2: the crisis was created to eliminate the motion challenges to halt the certification and to begin voting to look into voting irregularities and fraud

facts: the two motions were completely legal and constitutional under at least two constitutionally recognized procedures…procedures that would REQUIRE the house to pause the certification and then vote to determine whether the motions of suspend could move forward.

q3: what was so important to refuse this motion and the subsequent votes to suspend the electoral certification

a3: it was important to remove that process entirely and continue the fraud and certify the fraud with no detractors on record. This effectively gives no standing for a SCOTUS ruling appeal! understand this. If those two motions, even just one had successfully been voted EVEN IF THE MOTIONS were DENIED IN VOTE, this gives those who presented them with STANDING FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL ARGUMENT BEFORE SCOTUS. Understand this.

q4: could this have been done some other way other than creating a crisis/protest?

a4: unlikely….In order to prevent those two motions, requires that speaker of the house, minority leaders, and the president of the congress (vice president of the united states: pence), to NOT BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS. Once the capitol police and other “law enforcements agents” informed the speaker and these three other individuals, Pelosi UNILATERALLY UNDER EMERGENCY RULES, suspended the business of the congress. This protest was necessary ..the crisis was created because there is no other way to suspend the business of certification UNILATERALLY. By creating a crisis…invokes emergency procedures. No other circumstances other than war or mass simultaneous explosive diarhrea can create such unilateral speaker delivered suspension of the certification.

q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?

a5: the speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!

q6: Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?

a6: members were allowed to “vote” in proxy…remotely…not being present…(you can use your imagination about what conditions were placed on ALL members during this time to prevent anyone from “getting out of line”. Also clearly, it was at THIS NEW SESSION that VP Pence, President of Congress, would also have no ability to even consider pausing the electoral certification…because there was no motions of disagreements on the matter. So in a technical legal claim, he is correct that he had no constitutional authority to address any issues of fraud or doubts about electoral irregularities. But this completely dismisses the FACT that congress created rules in this crisis/emergency that never allowed them to be floored!

understand what happened in Jan 6…don’t get hung up on Viking impostors, stolen Pelosi computers, podium heists, and complicit capitol police.

understand the process and what happened and what WAS NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

this was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED.

it would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring!

new rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE!

so they created an emergency.

noting: I understand why many people have great interest in debunking the j6 event…I get that. I think it is important to dissect and examine the events of that day.

but please…step back and understand WHY these things happened…examine the chain of events in congress…why those two motions that would have at least paused the certification THAT WOULD GIVE VP PENCE THE CONSITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED POWER TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE ELECTORAL CERTIFICATION AND THEN EXAMINE THE IRREGULARITIES AND CLAIMS OF FRAUD!

at the very center of this coup stands Pence…the same individual who also spoiled President Trump’s first opportunities in the earlies hours of his Presidency just 4 years prior, when he created and facilitated the removal of LTGEN Flynn. I will not spend much time on this thread explaining why LTGEN Flynn was so important to President Trump and why the IC was so afraid he would have advisory power to the President. That I will leave for another day, another time. But understand this clearly: MIKE PENCE WAS AND IS WORKING FOR THE MOST CORRUPT CRIMINAL TREASONOUS PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT.

Protip: if you really want to get a true understanding of this matter videos of protesters walking in the capitol is not going to address them. Actual video and time line records of events and the specific actions taken by the speaker just moments before TWO MAJOR ELECTORAL ALTERING MOTIONS WERE ABOUT TO BE FLOORED. This crisis was developed just in time with a precise coordination to prevent those two motions to be entered into the chamber record. The two motions do not exist. The emergency powers established in the new session made sure they never could be entered. The emergency powers could never happen without a crisis…

God Bless America

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Absolutely. We must stand our ground, we must fight back. Our freedom wasn't given to us, it was fought for and now we have a bunch of do nothing panty waists just willing to say "I don't want to get involved"....I'm too scared! These people are dangerous and if you have a bunch around you, find new people to socialize with!

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DeSantis is not Trump's enemy except that Trump said a few negative things recently, so it seems more like a ploy.

We have to see what happens to make the best call.

I do not want the REP vote divided.

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Too bad DeSantis couldn't be VP....I mean that would be quite the team and the learning experience for DeSantis. They cannot run as a team because their permanent residence is in Florida, this is what prevents it. DeSantis would be smart to support Trump and not divide the vote further! If he care anything about America he will do this!

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DeSantis despises President Trump. He almost lost his first campaign for governor because he did not want Trump’s endorsement. When it was clear he would lose without it (to the crackhead pervert, Andrew Gillum) he played at being MAGA for a little while, while he found it useful.

His handlers have now convinced him that Trump and his movement are over (done I tell you!) and he has a great shot at being the next president.

Just look at how RDS responded to the historical first of the FBI raiding the home of a U.S. President. In the state he was governing! If any don’t remember, RDS vanished for 5 days. Then he made some mealy mouthed statement about the naughtiness of the FBI, with zero mention of President Trump or the historical precedence. He has not publicly mentioned Trump’s name since then.

I will not return to the Rinos’ slower, deceptive walk to hell. My fighting spirit says, “Let’s get it on now!”

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1. We Floridians had much more freedom than any place else during Covid.

2. He has small children. He is fighting for other small children's right to innocence of childhood. and not to be psychologically sexually abused by sick teachers, school boards, and their leftist new world order following unions.

That is a VERY important thing! Many of those children are our grandchildren!

This is a spiritual battle for their precious souls.

I can think of nothing more important right now.

God only knows what diabolical and depraved sexual theme will come next. Already somewhere in Europe bestiality was legalized.

Paedophilia is also being talked about..the grooming now is the first step.

We cannot hide our heads in the sand about all this, as sickening and distasteful as it is.

No one is immune.

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RDS thinks he's a movie star just like 99% of DC thinks they are movie stars!! He is just more of the same but the real patriots see clearly!

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I didn't want Andrew Gillum, and he may be what you said, but the whole thing looked like blackmail to me.

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I think Trump has called attention to DeSantis so we can examine him more closely. Since Trump's announcements we've discovered some of DeSantis's backers, ie. Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan. More to come?

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The polls? Is anyone really still talking about listening to "the polls"? "I'm tired of that! Let's meet somewhere else." 🙄🥸

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Ron DeSantis=George W. Bush

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I've been saying this. Thank you!

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100% and our Country can't wait 25 years to figure it out when it's too late!

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Possibly and quite likely...time will tell.

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Pompeo is a hyper neocon.

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How, exactly, does the media love DeSantis? From what I've seen so far, the media, minus Fox, loves to hate him.

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I’m sure the media knows their role in this Globalist strategy for destroying MAGA. They are supposed to give RDS a glowing National Spotlight, while at the same time satisfying the appetite for hate of their rabid base. Challenging, but they’re satisfying sick morons, so…it can be done with their usual levels of (in)competence.

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They will be playcating to the simple minded and we know there are many simple minded with their freaking heads in the sand looking for a shiny star....DeSantis is this shiny star....nothing more and no substance whatsoever! He's a liar and the beginning of a thief is a liar!

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Pompeo is the Deep State. In spades.

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I've been seeing a lot of negative articles on the MSM sites, so they're gearing up for heavy duty poop slinging when he says he's running.

The media is already attacking, they dont like him.

And yes, we can't fully trust any gov official, but so far as the TopGov he kicked ass and took no BS during the covid dictatorship rule. Florida flourished.

Once he makes it to the WH the lobbying circling sharks will unfortunately get his ear.

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Pompeo is as deep state as they go

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Exactly...The media loves those who love themselves....lovers of self and doomed to destruction and not truly public servants as a President should be!

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I am way too jaded to believe that anyone who gets to the highest office in the land does so with a servant heart. Yea Trump took no salary and left a comfortable life to put himself in the line of fire, but his outsized ego (a turnoff to me) was likely a motivating factor. BUT I also acknowledge that anyone who is able to survive in the political space has to have some ego as armor against all of the negativity that comes their way. I have run (and lost) for local office and the negativity and attacks are relentless and nasty. You have to believe you are better than your opponent(s) to get up and fight another day. And Trump is a fighter like no other, he seems to relish it.

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How do you get to be Donald John Trump without a massive ego? That’s like saying King David had a massive ego. I have accomplished nothing in that layer of human existence and can’t imagine how it would feel. I also don’t begrudge an ego to anyone who has earned it. Nor am I envious. I feel I have done fairly well in my little life’s sphere and I can admire those who have done well in the highest of spheres.

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You nailed it!

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You keep posting this. She cites Fox News and one middling headline from CNBC. That’s hardly “fawning” coverage. The media hate RDS. They lie about everything he does. This may change if he decides to run and they want to “tweak” DJT, but they have a visceral hatred for anyone on the right, RDS included.

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Sarah D is one of the worst posters on Twitchy. She’s always snarky about Trump and I can always tell when I am reading her posts without even looking at the tagline.

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Plus, Trump "don't care" about the optics for a second term! He'll just do what needs to be done!

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So far in this great discussion no one has said how they think either candidate will get into office. Did the Deep State just agree to keep their paws off the electoral process from now on? Has anything been truly fixed? Do we still have “voting season” instead of Voting Day? Somebody please tell me how it’s going to be different next time.

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SHOW UP AND VOTE ON ELECTION DAY!!! That's a start! Don't vote early nor absentee...show up and vote and bring your friends, family and neighbors with you! Get involved with Board of elections and learn the process be the eyes and ears...We know we cannot expect the left to do the right thing....we must be one step above instead of just spouting useless words without action!

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That backfired in AZ

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Have to start before Election Day. This part is up to us.

-Clean up the voting roles-no dead people voting. Twice.

-Get involved with the local precincts now. 2024 is almost too late.

-help school boards and mayors of small and large towns get elected.

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No one who has not been approved by the skull and crossbones club, the military industrial complex, and big pharma will ever become US president. But that's just my opinion.

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Well it happened once, it can happen again. Need to clean up elections though.

How can anyone NOT want clean, transparent elections? Anyone who balks has something to hide.

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You might be right.

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