Zelensky is an ally. Why did trump send aid to him? Why have we been training them for years and teaching them how to act like a professional army, not a bunch of drunk conscripts like their neighbors to the east?
Ukraine is an ally. We have Ukrainians here training in the USA. That’s not something you do with an enemy or a neutral party.
Russia has an even bigger problem with extremists. Almost 30-40% of their army is composed of the group “Wagner”, which is named after what and who are the owners affiliated with?
Where are they training here in the US? I know that we have had a DOD contract to train them there ever since we got together with Russia and successfully convinced them to give up their nukes, but I'm not aware of a US domestic training program where we bring their soldiers here.
Whether their president is Jewish, Christian, Muslim, or Buddhist is irrelevant. This is not our business.
Ukraine is a puppet state set up by a color revolution perpetrated circa 2014 - see Maidan massacre. Russia's aims are not land or attack of the west, but more than likely the preservation of the social and economic fabric in their near-abroad. That doesn't make them right for invading, nor does it make Ukraine an ally.
Surely the military's disregard for rational decision making, integrity, and most importantly the ubiquitous core value of honor isn't limited to just the mRNA shot mandate? Did they compromise themselves only with the shot but you can trust them on everything else? That's not how core values work.
Russias goal can be summarized very easily in one sentence:
Russia without Ukraine is a country. Russia with Ukraine is an empire
Russia aims are land, Territory, people, and power. Of course Russia isn’t right for invading. They claim they are so powerful, yet Ukraine ditching them and joining the west is a red line?
This is the equivrlant of your neighbor demanding you get vaccinated for Covid. Unacceptable.
A lot of the high tech Industires and resources are in Ukraine. Russia would have a stranglehold on oil if they were successful.
The same people they claim don’t exist and don’t have a right to exist? The same people who they murdered in a genocide and have a long history of brutalizing?
They intended to conquer the entire country in a couple days. They saw how the USA reacted to Afghanistan and thought the west would allow it again. Russia claimed victory on day 2 but retracted the article after several defeats on the battlefield.
Surprise, we didn’t.
The SSO and CCO we trained (along with the for es deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan) are doing amazing work. They just had their own Doolittle raid and delivered a psychological blow to Putin by hitting air fields close to
Moscow with ancient Soviet drones. Irony.
Russia did this once before 100 years ago. They invaded Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Ukraine in 1919-1922.
Biden is allied with Burisma Holding Company which consists of a group of energy and exploration companies. Biden and “the smartest is man he ever met” go way back when he was Vice President for decades.
The money laundering to Ukraine has to stop. They’re diverting tax payers money to democrats or probably all compromised politicians. We know this now due to the demise of FTX. I think I should get a tax write off for the money I lost which was given to a lot of different organizations that supported vax mandates. It’s crazy where our money is going with NO accountability.
You do realize FTX handled private donations, right?
Ukraine chose them because of lower rates for getting it to Ukraine. FTX stole from the Ukrainians, Investors, and others to fund his lavish life style. Let him rot in prison for life.
I have yet to see how a himars launcher is laundered. They are guarded by the highest trained dudes, ironically Russians who joined Ukraine to fight for them are some of them protecting them.
I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Biden is using the same old playbook FDR used to get America into WWII. FDR had campaigned on a platform promising to the American people that he would not get America into that European war. We had just come out of WWI and Americans were sick of it. Once in office, FDR was desperate to become a War President. He deliberately provoked Japan to attack our Pacific fleet by sanctioning Japan with an embargo and made sure the carrier group was not in port for the attack. The rest of the fleet was sacrificed so he would have the excuse to declare war on Germany and force America, ONCE AGAIN, into another European war.
In like manner, Johnson campaigned on a promise to the American people that American boys would not die for those slant-eyed ****** in Vietnam or something to that effect. Once in office, it was ramp up the war rhetoric and send in the boys to die in another obscene war.
The Democratic Party has always been the mandate and war party and has never given a shit about real American values since Pres. Kennedy who was more of an outlier like Trump than a real party hack which, BTW, is the reason he was killed.
After 50 years of observing the politicians, I continue to be amazed at how many Democrat voters were and are deceived by what the Democrats actually believe, what they want to do and why, what they have done throughout the past, what they are doing now, and what the Democrats plan to do in the future if they are allowed to by clueless voters.
Very serious question here. We all know your firm support for Ukraine and warnings of Russia. I respect your right to express that, just as I express my distrust of both and wish that we stop sending money we do not have. And even if we did have it, there are areas here at home where that money could be used.
My question: how much money is enough for you? When do you say, enough, no more of our taxed funds to this and other people's wars? I really am interested.
Of course, if they go to digital money (not going to happen) like they want, they could just click a button and have all the money they want. No scrutiny or transparency. They would just keep bribing anyone they want to.
Clearly, the answer is there is no limit. The Gov't is based on MMT, Modern Monetary Theory. That's their justification for unlimited expansion of the money supply with (supposedly) no consequences. Last time I checked, God built consequences into His creation.
It's how our side loses to them. We all agree that biden's covid scamdemic is a farce, but some percent of us support the very same scammers (biden administration) in their constant war mongering.
Will we ever seen an audit of the money going to Ukraine?
Much of which was used against Republicans.
Supporting the war against Russia = helping Dems and RINOs.
Just like how when Afghanistan fell america was humiliated and it was a massive defeat. Opposing aid to an American ally because you idiotically tnink ukriane is an anti American nation is blind and naive.
Let’s audit the money, of course. And it’s going to show the vast majority is doing what it’s supposed to do-kill bad guys.
But how are rockets and missiles and weapons being used against us?
I just got off the phone with a Ukrianain dude around bakhmut. They wiped out a Russian bm21 battery with a couple Excalibur shells provided by the USA from polish supplied krab howitzers.
Russia is an enemy of the USA. Same one that kick started the socialist progressive movement here in the USA is suddenly a good guy.
No you aren't. It is in your head. I know lots of " Federal Employees " that are not injected and will not be injected. Just watch them try to fire you! They are so stupid it is more then likely they couldn't be successful. And if they ever were, that means you will have a better, higher paying job elsewhere and you get to live and not die of blood clots or cancer! Additionally, you have a great Law Suit. Perhaps Class Action.
I have no intention of complying. Our court case is waiting on the en banc which should be anytime. Biden will probably appeal to the SC. We Feds are in this to the bitter end as we have to make sure mandates are not allowed ever again.
Me too. I'm a Fed in Vermont, and Vermont had some pretty insane covid rules (luckily completely unenforced, but still -- we weren't "allowed" to leave the state? I felt like a Ethan Allen himself going to NY for a slice of pizza. )
I never got the shots and I put in a Religious Accommodation in November 2021 thanks to Jeff's advice here. No answer! And then thank God for the lawsuits, and the injunction, but it's all still pending -- has not gone away. I'm prepared to quit the job if I have to, but if I quit because of the mandate, I wouldn't be able to get any other Fed job, so my career options might be limited, lol. (Anyone need a useless bureaucrat?)
Absolutely, stand up to the bullies! 9 times out of 10 nothing happens.
The 1 time it does, no matter what you are STILL better off!
Do not Quit. Make them fire you. Every Lawyer will tell you that. The Fed Gov won't , too much paperwork. If they do , hoorah! You have a great Lawsuit and a great new job , making more money somewhere else. Pick your dream place and go for it. You only live once and our ave age of mortality is decreasing quickly in this country.
I am in the same boat but we need all the good people to stay in the Gov so do not quit. Make them fire you but everyday I am more confident this will not happen.
Yeah, I can't see that actually happening either -- after a year they decide to enforce the mandates? But you never know with the Govt! Our agency is so horrible demoralized anyway, that would be the last straw.
I did an RA too but haven't heard anything. There is so much evidence to the ineffectiveness of the jab that it should not be pushed anymore. Unfortunately, we are living in a clown world. Stay strong and we will win!
hold out until the end and they have to fire you ! They will have to give a reason for that right ? and then you probably can get another job in the same function ! Thumbs up and fingers crossed VeryVer
At this point getting actually fired would be a relief -- lol. At least I could get unemployment for awhile, and wouldn't have to explain why I quit my "cushy" govt job! Lol.
That was great, thanks. I came to Vermont about 7 years ago for work, and I knew nothing about the place, really. It's a beautiful place, with a fascinating history. But there are two Vermonts, and I love the Vermont of the old-timers who've been here forever and have names like Zebediah and Silas and whose grandparents came from little towns in Quebec, and who keep on farming the same land after 200 years...that Vermont is wonderful. It's like a time machine and those folks are mostly Republican. 100,000 people voted Republican in our last, pointless elections, so the GOP is out there. BUT, the "hippies" outnumber them in votes by another 100,000 or so, so it's a lot cause. About half of Vermont doesn't vote at all, and I don't blame them.
I say "hippy" but I think the true old hippies (the "Stick it to the Man!" people) are long gone. The "replacement" hippies who cause the most trouble are refugees from California and New York who see Vermont as some kind of "Wilderness Rehab Retreat and Political Experiment Toy" that will solve all of their emotional and mental problems.
They have the numbers to enact ANY kind of insanity, and they do. They have a veto-proof majority in state government and whatever they think of, passes. Ban grocery bags and plastic straws? Check. Abortion allowed at ANY time? Done. Slavery abolished in the state constitution AGAIN just to make sure? Consider it done. Allow non-citizens to vote in local elections? Of course! Banning the sale of gasoline vehicles by 2035, just like California? Right on it.
I remember being in VT when the residents had lawn signs that said " Take back Vermont". Now Burlington ordered pods for the increasing population that resides on the streets.....Sad!
Well, they didn't. They didn't even try. The put a sign up at the border that you're supposed to quarantine when you come back or not go or whatever. That's the thing about Vermont -- tons of crazy rules with zero enforcement. It's illegal to throw food waste in the trash! Illegal! But there's no penalties and nobody checks. lol.
You see, passing laws, and rules, and making mandates is free, but enforcement measures actually cost money, and Vermonters are cheap, which is what actually makes the state livable -- the "hippies" pass crazy rules, and the "farmers" just ignore them.
What good is your job when you’re dead? I’m sorry to sound insensitive but you need to hear the truth. I personally know over 100 people seriously damaged and some dead from these shots. Fight it or find another job.
Sometimes easier said than done. The application of the federal employee mandate has not been evenly applied across all agencies. My daughter (a member of Feds for Med Freedom) left DoD employment two months ago. She took her training and got the hell out. She tried to hang in there. Received an accommodation on religious grounds that were earnest. Was even accommodated to use saliva testing. She filed an EEO and was working that process. She came out of church one Sunday and said that she was not even going to accept the saliva test. She knew that even this was not right. And she knew that compliance was unacceptable. It was crazy because vaccinated employees were getting Covid and spreading it but that was irrelevant. The result of her refusal to saliva test was that she could not come into the office and could not work remotely due to the sensitive nature of her work. Thus, she was forced to stay home and use months worth of her hard earned time off. She was even willing to stay home without pay after her leave was exhausted and was originally told that this was an option. She lost opportunities for advancement and training during this time. Then her supervisors conference called to tell her that she was going to be considered AWOL. Leave without pay was no longer an option. Ironically, she was given a raise and and a promotion a few months before she was forced to stay home and take leave.
I’m so sorry. What Biden and his evil ones have done is beyond evil. Judgment day will be beyond horrendous for all the suffering he’s caused. He’s a feeble perverted man corrupt with his whole family.
The en banc court decision for fed employees is still pending in 5th Circuit (of course, injunction is still active). But the DoD C19 mandate for service members greatly affects the fed employees. Why? The DoD has the largest fed workforce. They could not enforce the fed mandate, but boy, have they made our jobs difficult (no TDY, mandatory testing, etc for unvaxxed). Now with the service member mandate no longer in effect (remember, service members have stringent physical and medical guidelines for “readiness” to uphold) their logic for holding the DoD civilians to the same mandate (technically two different EO’s but the same directive: get the C19 shot) falls apart. Many agencies outside the DoD have relaxed their treatment of the unvaxxed (they can go on TDY, no mandatory testing, unvaxxed can be hired, etc.). So this mandate repeal will trickle down to the other fed agencies, and, for sure be used in related lawsuits such as the CMS mandate.
Hold tight. As a retired federal manager, most agencies will not take the legal action and test termination. My wife is still an active fed employee as well. Her agency threatened, and threatened, and threatened. The last mandatory response date is almost a year old, no follow up from her agency. BTW, Johnson & Johnson actually has a Covid vaccine, conventional vaccine, not mRNA experimental crap. We researched this and are keeping this as an option if she ever receives termination papers.
Our 42-year-old son took the J&J shot and almost immediately started having convulsions and was running a fever with chills. That was over a year ago. His employer threatened termination if he didn’t comply. The long-term effects? His immune system is much weaker. He catches every bug going around. You might want to rethink taking any kind of Covid shot.
All vaccines are bad now, the companies have been corrupted with the Depop agenda. Don't be naive to think in one office they make a Bioweapon and the next office they are angels.
Aluminum is poisonous to our Brain ( causes Senility ) and it is an ingredient in most of them now. Also Mercury ( neuro toxin ) in the multidose flu vaccines last time our Pediatrician stupidly admitted it.
Handy Rule of Thumb. Check the ingredients before you inject anything into you. Read the package insert thoroughly. Then don't do it. Just like we do before we eat something. FYI they ( B. Hates ) is trying to put the mRNA in our food now. Injecting it into the animals because he could not get us to eat his bogus lab grown shit. Sadly the lowest on the Elites food chain list will be eating it first from all the usual cheap, garbage food providers especially fast food. Try to create and support local small farm produce, green houses up north etc. etc. It can be done! It was in the old days.
Little House on the Prairie did not have McDonald signs in the background did it? 😊
I am baffled they they can still mandate a jab that is ineffective and that apparently makes you more likely to die. It's complete nonsense. BS ! I have heard bad things about the J&J shot so I won't take that one either or is this a new shot? It is stressful being in this situation as you and your wife know. The 5th circuit en banc will likely rule in our favor but I am doubtful the SC will.
It makes perfect sense that they " mandated " and " forced on some people in other countries " the Bioweapon Injection. You are still not looking at it from the correct perspective. Until you see that they are purposely trying to murder us, you will miss everything just like the man here who is trying to rationalize taking another injection.
FYI they are giving the mRNA Bioweapon ( permanently gene editing ) as the " flu " Injection to the unsuspecting, lemming sheep also. They have billions of dollars worth and warehouses full of it, what are they going to do with it? Use common sense. They were busted by a National Guard Whistle blower. Run, do not walk away from any Gov Agency. Do the Opposite of what they say and you will be far better off. Difficult if you work for one but do understand the respect you will get from the rest of us citizens.
We don't need them. All we need are roads, bridges and police. Period.
Look up Doug Cameron from Idaho. We know him. He has been on many speaking platforms in his wheelchair. He was just fine until he was jabbed in April of 2021. Malone and Cole took notice of his story and he has testified in DC. He also has a Go Fund Me now.
I would not trust any of them. They lost our misplaced trust anyway. And I did a deep dive into this new miracle vax by Novavax that the military offered unsuccessfully to service members because it has no fetal cells used in it….members still are declining! Thank goodness! The best and brightest holding strong! The deep dive leads right back to Gates and a history of very unsuccessful attempts at vaxxes in the past, to the point of bankruptcy - until good ol evil tyrant criminal Gates saved the day and gave them an influx of cash and revived them, and voila! New covid vax now! Pppffttt. NOPE! Do. Not. Trust. Any of them ever!
The EO covering federal contractors is not being enforced. Federal government knows that many contractors will say no to the shot and tell them to pound sand. Not enough workers it plenty of job openings outside federal opportunities. Like people have been saying: if majority of workers stood up to job vax mandates, we likely wouldn’t be in this mess.
You’re forgetting some major news
THE MILITARY MANDATE IS DEAD
we won.
With the NDAA it has language that orders the sec def to abolish the mandates.
They’re gone.
Poof.
Now time to go fight for those already discharged and forced to take the shot
Great! Now let's end Biden's war in Ukraine!
No more money for Ukraine.
Amen! Not one penny more. We shouldn’t have given a single penny in the first place. It’s disgusting.
You’re willing to abandon allies.
I am not.
Thankfully Republicans won’t allow that.
Ukraine I nothing but a money laundering operation. Zelensky is no ally.
“is”
Where is the money laundering?
Lots of accusations, little proof.
Zelensky is an ally. Why did trump send aid to him? Why have we been training them for years and teaching them how to act like a professional army, not a bunch of drunk conscripts like their neighbors to the east?
Where is the treaty approved by the Senate that allies us with Ukraine?
Don’t need one. We are going towards a common goal with a common purpose.
Ukraine deployed troops and men to iraq and Afghanistan to help us.
That’s a pretty big sign of “hey, we bros now”.
Ukraine is not an ally. Until five minutes ago, they were considered a cesspit of geopolitical ill-actors and neo-nazis.
Ukraine is an ally. We have Ukrainians here training in the USA. That’s not something you do with an enemy or a neutral party.
Russia has an even bigger problem with extremists. Almost 30-40% of their army is composed of the group “Wagner”, which is named after what and who are the owners affiliated with?
Ukraine has a Jewish president who was elected.
Russia is trying to remove him.
Where are they training here in the US? I know that we have had a DOD contract to train them there ever since we got together with Russia and successfully convinced them to give up their nukes, but I'm not aware of a US domestic training program where we bring their soldiers here.
Whether their president is Jewish, Christian, Muslim, or Buddhist is irrelevant. This is not our business.
Ukraine is a puppet state set up by a color revolution perpetrated circa 2014 - see Maidan massacre. Russia's aims are not land or attack of the west, but more than likely the preservation of the social and economic fabric in their near-abroad. That doesn't make them right for invading, nor does it make Ukraine an ally.
Surely the military's disregard for rational decision making, integrity, and most importantly the ubiquitous core value of honor isn't limited to just the mRNA shot mandate? Did they compromise themselves only with the shot but you can trust them on everything else? That's not how core values work.
Supportig Ukraine is empowering a Neo-NAZI regime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifHojLot-H4
This what your friends do?
Russias goal can be summarized very easily in one sentence:
Russia without Ukraine is a country. Russia with Ukraine is an empire
Russia aims are land, Territory, people, and power. Of course Russia isn’t right for invading. They claim they are so powerful, yet Ukraine ditching them and joining the west is a red line?
This is the equivrlant of your neighbor demanding you get vaccinated for Covid. Unacceptable.
A lot of the high tech Industires and resources are in Ukraine. Russia would have a stranglehold on oil if they were successful.
The same people they claim don’t exist and don’t have a right to exist? The same people who they murdered in a genocide and have a long history of brutalizing?
They intended to conquer the entire country in a couple days. They saw how the USA reacted to Afghanistan and thought the west would allow it again. Russia claimed victory on day 2 but retracted the article after several defeats on the battlefield.
Surprise, we didn’t.
The SSO and CCO we trained (along with the for es deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan) are doing amazing work. They just had their own Doolittle raid and delivered a psychological blow to Putin by hitting air fields close to
Moscow with ancient Soviet drones. Irony.
Russia did this once before 100 years ago. They invaded Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Ukraine in 1919-1922.
History is repeating itself.
The RINOs and the neoconservatives (all who are fellow travelers with the Dem/Marxists) won't allow it. But we're gonna change that.
to cover up the financial collapse of Europe and the USA
Ukraine isn’t perfect, but they’re the victim in this.
Almost unanimously all of Europe has been sending aid to them.
Ukraine is an ally to us like my stepson is an ally to me. Take take take but at least he makes me feel needed. TMI.
amen, it's really Biden undeclared war
Biden is allied with Burisma Holding Company which consists of a group of energy and exploration companies. Biden and “the smartest is man he ever met” go way back when he was Vice President for decades.
Biden is allied with an energy company. Great.
We aren’t sending them aid
If one company determines how a nation gets treated then what does that do for America? We have our share of bad across too.
The money laundering to Ukraine has to stop. They’re diverting tax payers money to democrats or probably all compromised politicians. We know this now due to the demise of FTX. I think I should get a tax write off for the money I lost which was given to a lot of different organizations that supported vax mandates. It’s crazy where our money is going with NO accountability.
You do realize FTX handled private donations, right?
Ukraine chose them because of lower rates for getting it to Ukraine. FTX stole from the Ukrainians, Investors, and others to fund his lavish life style. Let him rot in prison for life.
Here is a diagram to show you how it worked:
https://i.postimg.cc/HjDL43yt/8-EC829-FD-0324-4-A4-D-9-E61-70349-F445-B2-F.jpg
Should be simple
I have yet to see how a himars launcher is laundered. They are guarded by the highest trained dudes, ironically Russians who joined Ukraine to fight for them are some of them protecting them.
What war?
Last I checked im not deployed anywhere and nor is any other American.
Sanctions, by definition, are an act of war.
I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Biden is using the same old playbook FDR used to get America into WWII. FDR had campaigned on a platform promising to the American people that he would not get America into that European war. We had just come out of WWI and Americans were sick of it. Once in office, FDR was desperate to become a War President. He deliberately provoked Japan to attack our Pacific fleet by sanctioning Japan with an embargo and made sure the carrier group was not in port for the attack. The rest of the fleet was sacrificed so he would have the excuse to declare war on Germany and force America, ONCE AGAIN, into another European war.
In like manner, Johnson campaigned on a promise to the American people that American boys would not die for those slant-eyed ****** in Vietnam or something to that effect. Once in office, it was ramp up the war rhetoric and send in the boys to die in another obscene war.
The Democratic Party has always been the mandate and war party and has never given a shit about real American values since Pres. Kennedy who was more of an outlier like Trump than a real party hack which, BTW, is the reason he was killed.
After 50 years of observing the politicians, I continue to be amazed at how many Democrat voters were and are deceived by what the Democrats actually believe, what they want to do and why, what they have done throughout the past, what they are doing now, and what the Democrats plan to do in the future if they are allowed to by clueless voters.
Ironically trump was the first one to send lethal aid to Ukraine, reversing Obama and bidens policy.
He was very pro nato and realized the threat Russia posed.
He threatened Putin that he would
Bomb Moscow if he invaded Ukraine. Guess what, he didn’t.
Guess what.
Nobody cares 😉
That's the problem.
They have deployed our taxpayers money, actually stole.
Which isn’t a war.
We have sent aid before.
The only reason you complain now is because people told you too.
Remember, it’s illegal in russia to call it a war
People who support taxpayer dollars to Ukraine are financing a NAZI regime.
Yes Harold, thank you!
He’s as clueless and idiotic as the rest of them.
Run by a Jewish man ?
How clueless are you?
Israel is sending aid now too.
***Putin’s war
I believe the bill includes aid, so it’s a double for me :)
Very serious question here. We all know your firm support for Ukraine and warnings of Russia. I respect your right to express that, just as I express my distrust of both and wish that we stop sending money we do not have. And even if we did have it, there are areas here at home where that money could be used.
My question: how much money is enough for you? When do you say, enough, no more of our taxed funds to this and other people's wars? I really am interested.
Ukraine is just another money-laundering scheme the Dems use to line their pockets so they can pay all the judges off.
Of course, if they go to digital money (not going to happen) like they want, they could just click a button and have all the money they want. No scrutiny or transparency. They would just keep bribing anyone they want to.
I wish I had your faith that it won't happen! May I ask why you think that?
Line their pockets .... And got dems elected.
Who’s pockets are getting lined?
Says who?
Are you saying there isn’t a war?
The vast majority of aid stays in the USA
Clearly, the answer is there is no limit. The Gov't is based on MMT, Modern Monetary Theory. That's their justification for unlimited expansion of the money supply with (supposedly) no consequences. Last time I checked, God built consequences into His creation.
Running out of ways to sustain growth of the pyramid Ponzi economy will end the FED as a weapon of global hegemony
Your boys in bakhmut are having a tough time. Watched video of an entire battery of grads getting wiped out.
4 months of siege and the Wagner company still hasn’t taken it.
What is Wagner named for, again, and why is it Putin’s private army?
This is a great question.
You admit Biden pushes a scam with covid, yet you fully support Biden on Ukraine.
Got it.
I don’t support biden on Ukraine.
He is intentionally dragging out some desperately needed aid because he’s worried about politics.
Meanwhile, Poland is retrofitting storm shadow stealth missiles to Ukrainian sukhois and Brandon is trying to find his ice cream.
Did you see the news from yesterday?
Your boys had 3 air bases hit with Ukrainian drones. Blasted a couple bombers, but at the least a bear and backfire are out of commission for good.
It's how our side loses to them. We all agree that biden's covid scamdemic is a farce, but some percent of us support the very same scammers (biden administration) in their constant war mongering.
Will we ever seen an audit of the money going to Ukraine?
Much of which was used against Republicans.
Supporting the war against Russia = helping Dems and RINOs.
If Ukraine falls, america loses.
Just like how when Afghanistan fell america was humiliated and it was a massive defeat. Opposing aid to an American ally because you idiotically tnink ukriane is an anti American nation is blind and naive.
Let’s audit the money, of course. And it’s going to show the vast majority is doing what it’s supposed to do-kill bad guys.
But how are rockets and missiles and weapons being used against us?
I just got off the phone with a Ukrianain dude around bakhmut. They wiped out a Russian bm21 battery with a couple Excalibur shells provided by the USA from polish supplied krab howitzers.
Russia is an enemy of the USA. Same one that kick started the socialist progressive movement here in the USA is suddenly a good guy.
As a federal employee, I am still mandated to get the jab. It's not over.
Carrie,
No you aren't. It is in your head. I know lots of " Federal Employees " that are not injected and will not be injected. Just watch them try to fire you! They are so stupid it is more then likely they couldn't be successful. And if they ever were, that means you will have a better, higher paying job elsewhere and you get to live and not die of blood clots or cancer! Additionally, you have a great Law Suit. Perhaps Class Action.
Do Not Comply!
Simple!
I have no intention of complying. Our court case is waiting on the en banc which should be anytime. Biden will probably appeal to the SC. We Feds are in this to the bitter end as we have to make sure mandates are not allowed ever again.
Me too. I'm a Fed in Vermont, and Vermont had some pretty insane covid rules (luckily completely unenforced, but still -- we weren't "allowed" to leave the state? I felt like a Ethan Allen himself going to NY for a slice of pizza. )
I never got the shots and I put in a Religious Accommodation in November 2021 thanks to Jeff's advice here. No answer! And then thank God for the lawsuits, and the injunction, but it's all still pending -- has not gone away. I'm prepared to quit the job if I have to, but if I quit because of the mandate, I wouldn't be able to get any other Fed job, so my career options might be limited, lol. (Anyone need a useless bureaucrat?)
Good for you. Smart guy
Absolutely, stand up to the bullies! 9 times out of 10 nothing happens.
The 1 time it does, no matter what you are STILL better off!
Do not Quit. Make them fire you. Every Lawyer will tell you that. The Fed Gov won't , too much paperwork. If they do , hoorah! You have a great Lawsuit and a great new job , making more money somewhere else. Pick your dream place and go for it. You only live once and our ave age of mortality is decreasing quickly in this country.
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I am in the same boat but we need all the good people to stay in the Gov so do not quit. Make them fire you but everyday I am more confident this will not happen.
Yeah, I can't see that actually happening either -- after a year they decide to enforce the mandates? But you never know with the Govt! Our agency is so horrible demoralized anyway, that would be the last straw.
I did an RA too but haven't heard anything. There is so much evidence to the ineffectiveness of the jab that it should not be pushed anymore. Unfortunately, we are living in a clown world. Stay strong and we will win!
Your life is more important than the job. Put your trust in Jesus and he will direct your path. He will provide. I know I did 38 years ago.
hold out until the end and they have to fire you ! They will have to give a reason for that right ? and then you probably can get another job in the same function ! Thumbs up and fingers crossed VeryVer
At this point getting actually fired would be a relief -- lol. At least I could get unemployment for awhile, and wouldn't have to explain why I quit my "cushy" govt job! Lol.
My job wouldn’t fire me. They told us, “We will consider you as resigned if you do not upload your vaccine status into the portal”
I grew up in VT and all my family is still there. It used to be an amazing place. But the state has gone to hell. Thanks Bernie and all the socialist transplants. Thought you’d enjoy this- https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/with-the-highest-vaccination-rate?publication_id=383085&utm_medium=email&action=share&isFreemail=true
That was great, thanks. I came to Vermont about 7 years ago for work, and I knew nothing about the place, really. It's a beautiful place, with a fascinating history. But there are two Vermonts, and I love the Vermont of the old-timers who've been here forever and have names like Zebediah and Silas and whose grandparents came from little towns in Quebec, and who keep on farming the same land after 200 years...that Vermont is wonderful. It's like a time machine and those folks are mostly Republican. 100,000 people voted Republican in our last, pointless elections, so the GOP is out there. BUT, the "hippies" outnumber them in votes by another 100,000 or so, so it's a lot cause. About half of Vermont doesn't vote at all, and I don't blame them.
I say "hippy" but I think the true old hippies (the "Stick it to the Man!" people) are long gone. The "replacement" hippies who cause the most trouble are refugees from California and New York who see Vermont as some kind of "Wilderness Rehab Retreat and Political Experiment Toy" that will solve all of their emotional and mental problems.
They have the numbers to enact ANY kind of insanity, and they do. They have a veto-proof majority in state government and whatever they think of, passes. Ban grocery bags and plastic straws? Check. Abortion allowed at ANY time? Done. Slavery abolished in the state constitution AGAIN just to make sure? Consider it done. Allow non-citizens to vote in local elections? Of course! Banning the sale of gasoline vehicles by 2035, just like California? Right on it.
These are the same people who didn't know that Natural Gas was a fossil fuel.....https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/hot-air-vermont-gas-says-its-reinventing-itself-to-help-the-climate-critics-call-its-strategy-greenwashing/Content?oid=36110392
I'm already planning to move away-- I think I'll have to anyway, someday.
I remember being in VT when the residents had lawn signs that said " Take back Vermont". Now Burlington ordered pods for the increasing population that resides on the streets.....Sad!
How did they prevent you from leaving the state?
Well, they didn't. They didn't even try. The put a sign up at the border that you're supposed to quarantine when you come back or not go or whatever. That's the thing about Vermont -- tons of crazy rules with zero enforcement. It's illegal to throw food waste in the trash! Illegal! But there's no penalties and nobody checks. lol.
You see, passing laws, and rules, and making mandates is free, but enforcement measures actually cost money, and Vermonters are cheap, which is what actually makes the state livable -- the "hippies" pass crazy rules, and the "farmers" just ignore them.
Mandates are not laws. Ignore.
Anybody can mandate anything. Just words.
Try mandating your kids clean up after themselves. See how it goes.
Try mandating Federal Employees actually do 8 hours of honest hard work every day. See how that goes. People will ignore for the most part.
They might not be laws but employers can still fire you.
Continuing to pray for justice for you and so many others.
You have my eternal respect for your fortitude, Carrie.
Good luck to you!
What good is your job when you’re dead? I’m sorry to sound insensitive but you need to hear the truth. I personally know over 100 people seriously damaged and some dead from these shots. Fight it or find another job.
I just lost a good friend, 59 years-old to a massive stroke. No previous health issues. Sadly, she had swallowed the covid lies completely.
She was vaxxed and boosted to death.
Sometimes easier said than done. The application of the federal employee mandate has not been evenly applied across all agencies. My daughter (a member of Feds for Med Freedom) left DoD employment two months ago. She took her training and got the hell out. She tried to hang in there. Received an accommodation on religious grounds that were earnest. Was even accommodated to use saliva testing. She filed an EEO and was working that process. She came out of church one Sunday and said that she was not even going to accept the saliva test. She knew that even this was not right. And she knew that compliance was unacceptable. It was crazy because vaccinated employees were getting Covid and spreading it but that was irrelevant. The result of her refusal to saliva test was that she could not come into the office and could not work remotely due to the sensitive nature of her work. Thus, she was forced to stay home and use months worth of her hard earned time off. She was even willing to stay home without pay after her leave was exhausted and was originally told that this was an option. She lost opportunities for advancement and training during this time. Then her supervisors conference called to tell her that she was going to be considered AWOL. Leave without pay was no longer an option. Ironically, she was given a raise and and a promotion a few months before she was forced to stay home and take leave.
I’m so sorry. What Biden and his evil ones have done is beyond evil. Judgment day will be beyond horrendous for all the suffering he’s caused. He’s a feeble perverted man corrupt with his whole family.
There’s no need to be sorry.
I look at Job who lost everything and was told by his wife to curse God and die. He refused but kept praising God amidst his suffering.
I think I can handle this.
The en banc court decision for fed employees is still pending in 5th Circuit (of course, injunction is still active). But the DoD C19 mandate for service members greatly affects the fed employees. Why? The DoD has the largest fed workforce. They could not enforce the fed mandate, but boy, have they made our jobs difficult (no TDY, mandatory testing, etc for unvaxxed). Now with the service member mandate no longer in effect (remember, service members have stringent physical and medical guidelines for “readiness” to uphold) their logic for holding the DoD civilians to the same mandate (technically two different EO’s but the same directive: get the C19 shot) falls apart. Many agencies outside the DoD have relaxed their treatment of the unvaxxed (they can go on TDY, no mandatory testing, unvaxxed can be hired, etc.). So this mandate repeal will trickle down to the other fed agencies, and, for sure be used in related lawsuits such as the CMS mandate.
Amidst a lot of chaff you’re the wheat.
Thanks for sharing this.
I have no clue how fed employees (I’m technically one, but we are treated very differently) are treated but I hoped it was better.
Carrie,
Hold tight. As a retired federal manager, most agencies will not take the legal action and test termination. My wife is still an active fed employee as well. Her agency threatened, and threatened, and threatened. The last mandatory response date is almost a year old, no follow up from her agency. BTW, Johnson & Johnson actually has a Covid vaccine, conventional vaccine, not mRNA experimental crap. We researched this and are keeping this as an option if she ever receives termination papers.
Our 42-year-old son took the J&J shot and almost immediately started having convulsions and was running a fever with chills. That was over a year ago. His employer threatened termination if he didn’t comply. The long-term effects? His immune system is much weaker. He catches every bug going around. You might want to rethink taking any kind of Covid shot.
attempted murder of your son by his boss
Has anyone applied for Workers Comp when the job-required jab creates health issues?
I'm so sorry to hear he was so badly effected. I pray Jeff is right & that things are turning toward accountability.
That is horrible 😞 I’m so sorry 😞
I don’t believe the J&J is “conventional” in the “attenuated virus” sense. It’s still mRNA, it’s just not encased in LNP. Double check that, though.
All vaccines are bad now, the companies have been corrupted with the Depop agenda. Don't be naive to think in one office they make a Bioweapon and the next office they are angels.
Aluminum is poisonous to our Brain ( causes Senility ) and it is an ingredient in most of them now. Also Mercury ( neuro toxin ) in the multidose flu vaccines last time our Pediatrician stupidly admitted it.
Handy Rule of Thumb. Check the ingredients before you inject anything into you. Read the package insert thoroughly. Then don't do it. Just like we do before we eat something. FYI they ( B. Hates ) is trying to put the mRNA in our food now. Injecting it into the animals because he could not get us to eat his bogus lab grown shit. Sadly the lowest on the Elites food chain list will be eating it first from all the usual cheap, garbage food providers especially fast food. Try to create and support local small farm produce, green houses up north etc. etc. It can be done! It was in the old days.
Little House on the Prairie did not have McDonald signs in the background did it? 😊
I especially like the "(B. Hates)." That guy gives me the creeps!
I want a Big Mac now!
No Ben. Resist. Buy/join a farmette!
It’s my guilty pleasure.
I workout 5 times a week. I need a cheat meal.
I am baffled they they can still mandate a jab that is ineffective and that apparently makes you more likely to die. It's complete nonsense. BS ! I have heard bad things about the J&J shot so I won't take that one either or is this a new shot? It is stressful being in this situation as you and your wife know. The 5th circuit en banc will likely rule in our favor but I am doubtful the SC will.
It makes perfect sense that they " mandated " and " forced on some people in other countries " the Bioweapon Injection. You are still not looking at it from the correct perspective. Until you see that they are purposely trying to murder us, you will miss everything just like the man here who is trying to rationalize taking another injection.
FYI they are giving the mRNA Bioweapon ( permanently gene editing ) as the " flu " Injection to the unsuspecting, lemming sheep also. They have billions of dollars worth and warehouses full of it, what are they going to do with it? Use common sense. They were busted by a National Guard Whistle blower. Run, do not walk away from any Gov Agency. Do the Opposite of what they say and you will be far better off. Difficult if you work for one but do understand the respect you will get from the rest of us citizens.
We don't need them. All we need are roads, bridges and police. Period.
Exactly.
...You are still not looking at it from the correct perspective. Until you see that they are purposely trying to murder us...
...and Firemen.
Plus this mandate is for an experimental shot & no informed consent, just "safe & effective." There are adds on TV & radio still pushing boosters.
You might want to review the JJ technology it's not the MRNA but I believe it's
a vaccine technology that is still relatively new.
Look up Doug Cameron from Idaho. We know him. He has been on many speaking platforms in his wheelchair. He was just fine until he was jabbed in April of 2021. Malone and Cole took notice of his story and he has testified in DC. He also has a Go Fund Me now.
I would not trust any of them. They lost our misplaced trust anyway. And I did a deep dive into this new miracle vax by Novavax that the military offered unsuccessfully to service members because it has no fetal cells used in it….members still are declining! Thank goodness! The best and brightest holding strong! The deep dive leads right back to Gates and a history of very unsuccessful attempts at vaxxes in the past, to the point of bankruptcy - until good ol evil tyrant criminal Gates saved the day and gave them an influx of cash and revived them, and voila! New covid vax now! Pppffttt. NOPE! Do. Not. Trust. Any of them ever!
They asked me if I would get the nova ax. Everyone said no.
It still runs off the fetal cell research. It’s a no go.
What? It doesn’t cover you too?
I'm not in the military.
Wouldn’t it apply to Fed workers too?
No, we have a separate court case.
Doesn’t cover contractors either. We are still in limbo, waiting on the 5th circuit I think.
The EO covering federal contractors is not being enforced. Federal government knows that many contractors will say no to the shot and tell them to pound sand. Not enough workers it plenty of job openings outside federal opportunities. Like people have been saying: if majority of workers stood up to job vax mandates, we likely wouldn’t be in this mess.
If a federal contractor is enforcing a vax mandate, it’s because they want to do it and not directed by the federal government.