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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I posted a comment on another Substack yesterday that if the draft is reinstated, then women should be drafted too.

Did my typical comment, "women want equal rights, until they have to do the hard stuff."

Sure did trigger the white liberal Karens.

Posted that if you voted for Biden, your kids should be drafted.

And especially if you have an Ukrainian flag in your bio or elsewhere.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Leftists don't seem to grasp that what they push for should/will also affect them.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

They want someone else's kid to die on the battlefield in the wars they support.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

They used to say that it was fat old men who wanted other folks' sons to risk death. When was that idea floating around--in the Vietnam years? (I have only 28 days left to say I'm 73).

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I remember the casualties from the Vietnam War.

Didn't McNamara apologize later? And finally that evil old troll Kissinger died.

And all the injuries and deaths attributed to Agent Orange and the VA taking almost 3 decades to realize there was a problem.

Vietnam is the poster child for PTSD.

Guy Duperreault's avatar

and no apology to the vietnamese for the invasion and for it being used as a testing ground for total destruction and chemical warfare. instead, america accused them of hiding the american dead. and continued economic warfare. for example, when india began the process of shipping them water buffalo to replace the ones actively killed by the invasion to create hunger, america threatened india with removal of economic activity if they continued to help vietnam. that was long after the invasion had been aborted.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Apparently that evil old troll Kissinger is responsible for a lot of what’s disastrous in the Middle East today.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, and evil takes forever to die.

The old troll was 100.

ThreeArchBay's avatar

War for PROFIT. Much like the Iraq wars and the Afghanistan clusterfugg...

Even WWII was a war that didn't have to be fought:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/mZpeJkSNjcA3/

Emu's avatar

The saddest thing is that over 20 of our beloved vets commit suicide every day and the VA ignores it.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, they do ignore it.

The VA pays a lot of lip service, but not so much concern.

A few months back here in Pittsburgh, a 73-year-old veteran committed suicide at a VA health care facility. The VA seemed to be more concerned about how he brought a weapon in, rather than why he chose suicide.

His life was important.

The VA needs to start asking us how the pandemic affected our mental health. For a very long time, if we did not wear a mask, we were denied needed medical care. In what universe is that even humane?

And no accommodations were made for veterans suffering from PTSD, traumatic brain injury, anxiety, depression, military sexual trauma. It says right on the box that masks do not prevent covid.

And I read for each month of isolation that a veterans endures, their chances of committing suicide go up.

The VA will probably wait 30 years to address the issue. Just like to took them 30 to acknowledge that exposure to Agent Orange causes multiple serious injuries and diseases.

P Flournoy's avatar

Why is the Vietnam war the poster child for PTS? It seems that all of our wars have been needless as we look back? My husband was in the Normandy invasion and believe me they didn’t have a name on it, but he had PTS.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Only because the mental health issues were finally given a medical diagnosis code.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks Phil—but I will be a very short term member. On my way out the door…..

Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Ah, a realist. I commend and honor your courage in the face of that universal experience that suffers taboo around here. In the west anyway. Like everyone I'm out the door, too, just no frank heads up on timing. I'd like to stick around a while, but who knows? Blessings to you on the whole of your journey, here, there and everywhere. (Can you hear the Fab Four?🎶😉)

Cyn's avatar

While their kids protest and destroy cities with their rioting.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Gonna happen again before the election.

"gays for Palestine" crowd.

A.J.'s avatar

Comfy educational deferments for college and university but never for trade schools with easy to get medical deferments, too. Ditto all females and many with children.

Shall we start a list of all who benefitted by those deferments during the Vietnam War? Any aged 18-22 between 1963-1974?

All the children of LBJ and Nixon

Bill Clinton

Hillary Clinton

Dick Cheney

Donald Trump

Bernie Sanders

CMCM's avatar

The wars THEY mostly create.

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Of course. My grandson was blown away when I told him the US hadn't won a war since WWII. War is a cash cow. Warmongers can't afford to mind their own business.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/08/23/despite-trillions-spent-us-military-hasnt-won-real-war-1945

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I agreed with everything he wrote in that article except for:

"Bigger national security threats today are climate change, cybersecurity, and global pandemics."

Climate change - more like government weather weapons and crazy Bill Gates.

Cybersecurity - once again our own government; NSA is not our friend.

Global pandemics - more like our own government trying to kill us by weaponizing viruses.

Michele's avatar

Well, it's someone else's kid who came over the border illegally, so....

And it's someone else's trans kid... "I mean gosh who am I to deny that kid their hard-fought-for equity, yah?"

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Well they'll be first against the wall as soon as they're no longer useful

It always ends that way with the Left. Always.

Susan Stephens's avatar

Never! It’s always for thee not me. How typically arrogant of arrogant libs.

Politico Phil's avatar

That's cuz they are entitled. Perfectly logical.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Because they just know they’re special.

Vonu's avatar

Only if they aren't exempted as the authors.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

well first of all kings and presidents and all govt in the drafting age should be sent, since they want war. The ones that are older can do office work and other non-battlefield. Then all those that WANT to fight. And no draft for those that want to live in peace. War is for those who want it. Over and done with sacrificing young people. How does that sound?

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

How about the US just starts minding their own business and let those idiots in Europe solve their own problems?

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

that goes for ALL countries. What business does anyone from Europe have in any other one's country? But it goes especially for the UK and the US since they have their nose and bloody hands everywhere. Close all overseas military bases and all back to where they belong. Defending the own borders !

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, close all overseas bases and bring US troops home.

Vonu's avatar

As Trump promised to do in 2016 but forgot about in 2017.

SadieJay's avatar

♥ I just wrote a citizen SOTU substack and this was one of the things. Bring our troops home. Who made us the world's policeman? The United States of today is not the answer to any problems, it just creates the problem and pays for contractors to solve the self-made problems and the soul-less nihilists in the swamp reap dirty payouts from the giant circle-jerk. It is all evil and abhorrent.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

100 million percent agree

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

sells weapons to both parties, like they did in Vietnam and other countries, and then send American youth to die there.

Bryan Dair's avatar

I still can not understand why they sent so many young infantrymen to trudge through the jungles of Vietnam. What was the objective?

Burning down peasant villages and carpet bombing farms doesn't seem like the way to prevent the spread of Communism.

SadieJay's avatar

Like Cheney and Iraq and Halliburton.

Peter GL's avatar

why defend our own borders when that will allow more voters for woke idiots we have in DC to perpetuate their hold on power. We need term limits for Senators not just presidents. That way we wouldn't have been graced with president FJB

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

totally agree. No nonagenarians in there and certainly not after being there for 50 years

MaryAnn's avatar

Agree. Even the behemoth that is Ramstein would not be necessary if we did not need a hospital to airlift casualties to from proxy wars.

liz's avatar

since they are all proxy wars instigated by the CIA/MI5/MOSSAD its hardly fair to blame them on Europe.

those who want wars are always the same group of International Banksters. and their owner/handlers.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

My beef with NATO countries are that the majority of them are freeloaders not paying their fair share.

Elaine Russky's avatar

My beef with NATO is that it has no beneficial purpose. Like the UN.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

away with all the letter word things

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Let those bums in Europe solve their own problems.

Tio Nico's avatar

It sorta did when it was first formed. Main intent and purpose was to stand together against continued Soviet encroachment into non-soviet nations. When the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics folded, back about 1989 or so (someone WILL correct me.. that's OK) the entire premise and prupose of NATO also folded.

BUT no one benefitting from it wanted to participate in "the wreck of the Tennessee Gravy Train" by folding NATO uo like a worn out old hat and chucking it. On no. Too many greedy operatives making big bank off the scheme. On OUR nickel. Sugar Daddy to the entire planet, I tell ya.

OnTheJump's avatar

THAT makes far too much sense, Kathleen.

You a crazy person. Imagine - the USofA minding its own business.

Thanks for the hardy-har-har 🤣

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Once the US dollar collapses on the world stage, there won't be much money left over to support the MIC.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Is that when the shootings begin?!...;]

Peter GL's avatar

truer words never written

Tio Nico's avatar

We have out-Britained the very Britain we fought to eject from North America back in about Seventeen Seventy Five or so. They left, but they also abandoned their grift and politics. We are now ten times further down the Rabbit Hole than they were when we loaded their minions and masters aboard their ships waiting at the Quay at Yorktown and sent them back o George Three the Kid King.

And we thought we'd bid them Good Riddance and Don't Come Back.

Peter GL's avatar

WHAT??? and let them have all the fun? Besides, isn't that what the Brits taught us? Go into a place and divide the people and start them fighting against themselves. We want to take part of the fighting. Puleeezz

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The British Empire used to be all powerful worldwide.

"the sun never sets on the British empire"

The US will suffer the same fate.

Peter GL's avatar

agree... though I doubt we will last the 400 years of the British empire. At least not with the current sickos running the country and bozos that keep voting them in

Michele's avatar

2027 should wrap it up.

US Uranus return--very common death aspect.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I will have to check into that...

Tio Nico's avatar

Precisely the most dangerous method of overtaking any people as described by Saul Alinsky in his Rules for Radicals.

That was written as a playbook for the overtaking of this nation. WE need to read and understand it so when we SEE his tricks being implemented against is we will know what they are about, and how to counter them. I found my paperback copy on eBay for about five bucks. I was glad to know Alinsky got none of my purchase payment. But I got his ideas, and the key to defending against them. For a fiver!!!

Tio Nico's avatar

What a fine concept!!!!

HIS is precisely wha Dwight d Eisenhower warned agains in his Farewell Speech. HE should know.. he was top general as the Second German War wound down. He plainly warned against the "military industrial complex". He had NO IDE how right he would be proven. And right he was.

There is an endless "turntable" of folks moving from elected government positions into and back out of top management positions in designers and manufacurers of the "toys" with which we make war not peace. And "smehow" as that table turns round and round, those on the turntable somehow get astoundingly wealthy. Then they hop off the table and get elected to some office, fromwhich they then enable their crones and partners to hop onto the turntable.

Funny how the Buy Dem dynasty seems to so closely follow that model, both in military and international banking and busines endeavours.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

That's the reason why the defense contractors are called Beltway Bandits.

And those traitorous Admirals and Generals in the Pentagon...they don't give a shit about enlisted men and women.

They only care about getting a job with a defense contractor when they retire.

Freebird's avatar

And the idiots in the Middle East.

Vonu's avatar

Would you be willing to pay the reparations to the MICIMATT complex for their lost profits?

Peter GL's avatar

they don't deserve any more than what they have siphoned already. In fact, they should pay reparations to the taxpayers who funded all their junkets and luxuries

liz's avatar

its time they stopped making their BLOOD MONEY.

Jillian Stirling's avatar

Absolutely. Bring it on. The US needs to get out of everyone’s back yard.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No more dead American servicemembers in some craphole country where they hate us.

RunningLogic's avatar

And their salaries and retirement funds should be used to pay for the war too 😑

Janet's avatar

That sounds like fun. 🤣👍🏻

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

kJ you’d enjoy Dr Coleman’s take on female family doctors. It’s on Edwin’s stack

Dr Linda's avatar

I started to read but had to stop. Maybe I’ll try again later.

I have been treated treated badly by both male and female doctors. I have been treated reprehensibly by most doctors. At least none of my female doctors have suggested if I want to have sex, give a call.

The best pediatrician for my autistic Son was a woman. The worst were both men and women.

Female healers have been an important facet of medicine for eons.

I think the system and education suck.

Jamie's avatar

Very interesting… Not an area I have investigated, but I could see that happening.

If a female insists on doing a traditionally male job, she should do it at least equally as well. If she does it equally as well, then she won’t be raising a family and keeping the home. One of the two will always fall short.

I think the overall movement was part of the intentional destruction of the family unit, often blamed on men not doing their jobs… both can be equally true at the same time.

NAB's avatar

I believe it is Andrew Klavan who has long posited that once women take over something (a profession, the arts, etc...), that thing is then on the decline because it means men are no longer interested in it or are contributing to it and without the influence of men, that thing languishes. There are so many current examples which prove his assertion (just think of the whole Star Wars devolution taking place under the guise of AWFLs).

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

The same is true of the church. My dad railed about it back in the day. Now, look what we have! Men have left the church in droves.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

We've seen this in high schools--where girls start to choose the formerly "boys-only" courses, then the boys start to wander away.

R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

affluent white female liberal = AWFL

Willing Spirit's avatar

Women have an innate desire for having children. The Feminazi movement couldn’t kill that. They could only make it a miserable experience. I remember in those early takeover days, seeing very pregnant women cashiers and other laborers; on their feet all day. My heart broke for them. I felt very blessed to have been able to be at home, properly caring for myself through my four pregnancies.

Medical conditions resulting in C-sections and other interventions are common now. And with autism rates now being 1 in 5, and a proliferation of other ‘learning disability’ categories, we can see that things aren’t going well for those babies.

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

My superiors refused to delay graduation and said “who ever employs them will figure it out “.

liz's avatar

capitalists decided that people had it too easy working one job and took advantage of women's movement to MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE to survive on one salary. so women HAD to go to work. sucks for everyone. NEVER waste an opportunity to exploit more people, right?

but that is what happens when owners skim too much of the profit.

liz's avatar

why cant working parents SHARE keeping a home and raising the children? how is that fair to overly burden one person?

Fla Mom's avatar

Liz, which do you consider the burden - being a homemaker and raising children, or being the one on whose income it all depends?

Peter GL's avatar

when our children were young I had to stay home one day to tend to them with my wife ill. It was MUCH harder than going to work, and I did half the things she did

rolandttg's avatar

My former dentist retired after 45 years. He said exactly the same thing about female dentists in the US. They used it as a part time job where they could set the hours and days.

Michelle D's avatar

But isn't that a part of being your own boss- you can set your hours? Or the luxury of being a business owner- don't hire someone who can't work the hours needed? For the UK, I am not sure I would want to go on a home visit alone (because I, alas, don't trust people.) but they could have set it up to have an aide go as well.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

In my personal experience, on the receiving end (husband having his own business for the last 38 years)--being the boss means that you work about twice the hours of your employees, and you are the last to be paid--if you are paid at all. Still true now. After 38 years.

laura-ann Knox's avatar

AS a female worker, I've ALWAYS Said that those of us who choose not to breed should be paid more than those who do. Or, those who don't have children UNDER 18 should get more.

The ones with children cost the company much more in sick time, medical, FMLA, inconvenience and just pains in the a$$.

Needless to say, I get a lot of sh!t for this position.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Pregnant women in the Navy were a huge pain in the ass.

They couldn't do this...they couldn't do that...

They couldn't work in certain work centers that had chemicals.

They couldn't stay on the ship past a certain date.

They couldn't go on deployment.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

my male dentist in Belgium was excellent, when he passed his daughter took over. I immediately found another male dentist. I have very strong teeth, if one needs to be pulled I wonder if a woman can do this.

Vonu's avatar

Women having more stamina than men, a long hard extraction is right down their alley.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Oh my goodness. I first found Dr. Coleman via John Campbell, whom we greedily followed in '21-'22. I, graduate of Mount Holyoke College, the nation's first college (1837) for women only (founder felt that the sisters of boys going off to Harvard and Yale deserve their own opportunity)--and granddaughter of an MHC graduate 1906, great-niece of a Radcliffe graduate 1905: I have well-educated women in my background. Yet I have through my life believed that men and women have different strengths. And so, different places in which to serve.

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Yes but when you fall short, whether man or woman , there needs to be consequences not a reward . It’s a privilege to care for patients and they need to respect the oath they took .

Willing Spirit's avatar

Social justice meddling always brings unintended negative consequences.

Allowing life to evolve organically may take prayer, time and patience, but is far less dangerous to society. Hearts need to be changed in order to truly change minds.

The Civil War need not have happened. Life was evolving in the right direction, but warmongers needed to force actions prematurely. That harm continues to this day. But thus has it always been since the Fall.

Tio Nico's avatar

The War of Northern Aggression was NOT over he issue of slavery, which was already doomed by the beginnings of the Industrial REvolution and many in the South were well aware of this. No it was abusive taxes and import duties imposed by he North blocking trade with Europe by the Southern States. , to include the capture/sinking of southern ships When it went so far as to result in naval blockades against trade into/out of southern ports the South began to separate from the Union they volintarily joined. Lincoln saw this as an attack oh HIS personal sovereignty and arranged a false flag attack on a southern port, Charleston Harbor. , "triggering" a full fledged military rsponse to bring hose nasty rebels to heel.

Even after the war was concluded, the North invaded and "remade" the South imposing harsh regulatons, martial law, etc. Many of the leaders in the South either opposed slavery on its koral principles or on practical ones, realising that thing like Eli Whitney's cotton gin, and shortly after harvesters made massive numbers of field hands an economic impracticality. But rather than allowing things to change gradually and non-destructively at the end of the war ALL slaves were instantly declared free.. nowhere to go, no income, no marketable skills, millions suddenly rendered homeless and destitute. A plantation owner could not even keep some of them on as salaried employees for a fair wage.. they HAD to leave the only home most of them had ever known. To go... where, exactly? AND to eat, how exactly?

Naw, the War of Northern Aggression was an economic war with heavy political overtones.

Willing Spirit's avatar

A lot of truth here. Still so sad and damaging that it happened.

Fla Mom's avatar

I'm a retired female physician. I see his logic, and it's not wrong. But he ends by saying the result was intentional, and I'm not sure about that.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Had to go back and reread.

He says it was not intentional on the part of the women who became doctors, when enticed to do so.

He says there were conspirators who created the enticements deliberately as part of a plan for destruction of life as we knew it.

I agree with that.

The old Soviet Union had already experimented with this and knew how it played out.

They said they would destroy us from within. Joseph McCarthy was right about the infiltration of our government way back in the 50s.

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

I had a few admit to me it was for status . 🤮

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

The other discussion was Lioness

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Way back when he army was an army the worst job on kp was cleaning the grease trap. That’s where they should all have their first assignment

rolandttg's avatar

My former boss was a combination of Sargent York and Gomer Pyle. Crack shot, once threw a grenade over the range and (deliberately) blew up the captains jeep parked there. In basic, he also laughed repeatedly during their first inspection by the captain. When the captain asked what was so funny , he replied, "you sir". Sarge about died. When asked why he thought he was so funny, he told the captain, " you snatch the rifle out of soldier's hands like they stole it from you, and you keep clicking your heels like some Nazi"

His first punishment was saluting a tree in the rain while repeating " I will honor and obey all officers appointed over me". His next punishment was reporting to the mess as "the Lone Ranger". The sergeant didn't blink, and led him into the back. His task.? Clean an old nasty pot bellied stove until it passed a white glove inspection. this was the John Wayne boss I have described before. What a man.

TB's avatar

Haha! (And a perfect example why some of us should never be in the military.)

Politico Phil's avatar

American soldiers are famous for talking back. Europeans could never understand it. My buddy's dad was a Master Sargent Navy Seal in the Vietnam War. Served the entire war, 15 years and 7 tours. I don't know how he survived. But strong as an ox - literally. On a flight to drop his team on a HALO jump behind enemy lines, a Navy officer hopped the flight. He was drunk and loud and wouldn't shut up so the SEAL team could catch some sleep before the drop. So the MS put the Navy officer to sleep with one blow. When he got back off of mission, he was immediately called in and court marshaled by the Navy officer. Then the CO called the officer into his office and the court marshal was quietly dropped.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Mess cooking on a Navy ship...misery...long hours...hard work.

Vonu's avatar

first and last to eat

Robin Landry's avatar

Bathroom next. I’d take galley duty any time over the heads.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Plenty of crap jobs in the military.

The snowflakes today have no clue.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah women-libers (AWFL) and all these progressives would cry foul if they had to "scale" the walls.

Kelli's avatar

It would be fun to watch the reactions of all our new "women wannabes"!

Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Love AWFL. My parents did not raise weak women (4 girls) but as far as military combat etc., no thank you! Out of 5 children 1 turned liberal, I try and explain to her all the time the problems happening in my “diverse” town. She lives in a lily white North suburb of Chicago, I’m in a southern burb where we all grew up. BUT mine has transitioned thru the years to be VERY diverse. Anyway, no way she would have ever considered military either.

PEL's avatar

I lived in one of those for decades. Found it hysterical during the Floyd riots there was actually a peace march in our burb where they decried how racist it was. Yes it’s 93% white and was when you chose to live there. So stop acting so surprised!! Move to Markham or Harvey if you want a more diverse town or even just a black neighborhood in Evanston (so smug because they are crunchy liberals there but they only live in the best parts). Liberal suburban Karens really are the worst.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The liberal suburban Karens are truly the worst.

Peter GL's avatar

Probably chose to live there because of better schools, safer for children or all sorts of reasons, except diversity

PEL's avatar

Yes exactly. They did. I did too! But gotta virtue signal and serve penance for your choices ya know!

Peter GL's avatar

having had the privilege myself and offered it to my children I do not intend to apologize. I have two grown children whom I am proud of for being good citizens, that is my penance

A.J.'s avatar

Had a great aunt (white) in Evanston, Northwestern University town. Wife of a professor. They both considered all "capitalists" evil. Her entire neighborhood along the lake emptied out every summer if virtually all residents for vacations around the world and to second (summer) homes usually on lakes. So proud she was to have campaigned for Obama for his first to last elected offices. When the professor got dementia she was set to put him in a very expensive nursing home until I suggested as a WW2 vet he'd likely get much better and cheaper care in a VA facility which is what happened. His wartime duty was being an always behind-the-lines headquarters staffer in Europe.

PEL's avatar

Yep and except for the occasional black doctor or other POC professional, that area was lily white but they got to pretend they were soooooo integrated. Haha where did they think Northwestern’s ginormous endowment came from—dirty capitalists!!

Karen Bandy's avatar

Last night my husband and I were discussing this and I asked about all the biological males who think they’re women, will they be drafted? You can just hear them, ‘I’m a woman, I can’t go to war, women can’t be drafted’. Ha!

Lana's avatar

I’m old enough to remember when Klinger from M*A*S*H* tried that — too many woke leaders now rolling over

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

In the physical, require the removal of underpants.

Susan Clack's avatar

Y’all are killing meeeeee

Karen Bandy's avatar

‘Uh, my man boobs won’t fit in the uniform’ and ‘how do I tuck, with this tight uniform, they never taught us that part of tucking in grade school’.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Billy Bob Gates could help those endowed with man boobs.

Knotgrass's avatar

I 100% agree. Women want equal everything why not draft too. That is coming from a mother of three boys.

liz's avatar

this alone will stop the warmakers in their tracks, so Im all for it.

Robin Landry's avatar

Excellent point. Fight for the flag you fly. It would be a rap song. 🎧 or country🤠

AngelaK's avatar

Can the alphabet folks fight for the flag they fly?

Scott's avatar

But I can’t speak for you, you’ll have to decide

If even the Russians have God on their side

But now we’ve got weapons of chemical dust

If fire them we’re forced to, then fire them we must

One push of the button and they’re shot the world wide

And you never ask questions when God’s in you side

So now as I'm leavin', I'm weary as hell

The confusion I'm feelin' ain't no tongue can tell

The words fill my head, and they fall to the floor

That if God's on our side, he'll stop the next war

Peter GL's avatar

God won't intervene unless we are either united in call for His help, or are too far gone the deep end

Peter GL's avatar

good one Angela!!!

liz's avatar

yes please. them first.

AngelaK's avatar

I mean, they are so proud of their flag, and they pledge their allegiance to all it stands for, so....

Vonu's avatar

Draft deferments should be automatic for those whose families don't receive income from the MICIMATT complex.

Peter GL's avatar

and those whose families do receive should be the first to be called and sent to fight!

Vonu's avatar

Their families would have the money to finally take the 13th Amendment to the SCOTUS for its overdue enforcement.

Dr Linda's avatar

Sorry I missed that. Serving was hard. Life is hard. I woukd do it again but not in today’s bubble wrap military. Needless to say, I’m too old. It’s the Militia for me

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Clinton started the destruction of the military.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes. Rush had much to say about this at the time. That’s when the National Guard began to be used in war zones. I have a family member, technically Air Guard, not Air Force, who was deployed to the Middle East multiple times.

A.J.'s avatar

NG always is used for tours under 12 months to avoid their personnel qualifying for better vet pay and benefits.

Dr Linda's avatar

I was way before Clinton. : )

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Kathleen, you know well that I am a conservative woman. But I think that women should not be drafted, for at least two reasons. 1) protection of the human species---if 4 M men are killed in battle, one man can still impregnate many women. And 2)--with all respect due to you yourself, I suspect that women lower the aggression-quotient of the battling male (lowered bar for endurance tests, etc).

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

My point with saying that women should be drafted is to force the issue about the futility with the forever wars.

Only when people fear their families will be directly affected, will support for those wars wane.

Peter GL's avatar

especially those in congress and the White House. Can you imagine Sargent Hunter?

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hunter already had the shortest career in the Navy Reserves. Pedo Joe got him in even though he was over the age limit.

Got tossed when he popped positive on a urinalysis test for cocaine.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/military/2014/10/17/ap-vps-son-hunter-biden-out-navy-due-failed-drug-test/15786435007/

Vonu's avatar

The forever wars are the result of MICIMATT complex profit motives.

Aaron Bakker's avatar

They are easily triggered these days. Just the colors red, white and blue make them lose their minds.

Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Women can be very scary at least once a month - enough to frighten even the most battle hardened Ruskie. What if we coordinate their cycles to be on the front during that time?

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Well, after the idiot SecDef Austin forced active duty to take the covid DeathVax, their menstrual cycles are all messed up.

Vonu's avatar

It has been well documented that the menstrual cycles of women who habitually cohabitate are synchronized.

liz's avatar

not since the vaxx. now women can have their periods for 90 days straight and even 90 year old women can have it again.

not little dribbles, full fledged rivers of blood.

Vonu's avatar

Vaginal bleeding isn't always uterine.

The spike proteins cause bleeding from all orifices where they concentrate.

Karen Bandy's avatar

They blame it on too much estrogen, but could it possibly be caused by shedding?

Vonu's avatar

It might be contracted by shedding, but it would have to become immunological.

Western society is on estrogen overload from phytoestrogens in processed food.

Susan Clack's avatar

I was on a USFS fire crew (type II, two 10 person crews from 2 ranger districts) that got sent to Yellowstone NP in 1988. The crew was probably 40% female. We all had our periods while we out in the backcountry, every one of us. Three weeks into the assignment, a new Incident Management Team rotated in and the Safety Officer was all concerned about keeping any menstruating females in camp (y’know, the bears…🙄🙄🙄). We all laughed and said “we’re all done with that! Never mind!” So yes, the mares in our herd were in sync! 😂😂😂

Karen Bandy's avatar

Isn’t that true about the bears? I seem to recall warnings in Yellowstone.

A.J.'s avatar

Yep, we sych to the lunar cycles.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I have read this, but living in a college dormitory (a women's college) for four years, never noticed this.

Vonu's avatar

Which would be normal unless you were there to track their cycles.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Or if you accidentally awaken then when they have small children.

Talk about the evil eye...but I understand.

CMCM's avatar

Love it! My opinion AND my husband's as well (Vietnam combat vet) is that all these Karens who say women should have absolutely equal right should be held to the same standards as the men who join the military. Same physical test demands, same strength required, and yes....subject to the draft as well!

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And, there is nothing like lowering the physical strength standards for female firefighters.

I want someone who can actually carry me out of a burning building.

Peter GL's avatar

My issue with the draft is that if we give the politicians a well equipped fighting army they will be itching to use it. If there was one good thing that Nixon did was to end the draft. Now there is talk of giving the fog brained c.i.c. an army and his woke DEI generals an army? Why, to start even more wars?

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Parents need to say, "hell, no, you are not taking my kid."

Peter GL's avatar

this administration would label them "domestic terrorists"

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

If they try to draft my son into this crooked rainbow army commanded by a dementia patient, I will become a real, honest-to-god, domestic terrorist.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

First of all, then, I exhort that petitions and prayers, requests and thanksgivings, be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the full knowledge of the truth.

— 1 Timothy 2:1-4 LSB

Donna Ruth's avatar

This needs to be the first prayer petition of every Mass, Service, Prayer Gathering.

It is biblical.

It is crucial.

Susan Stephens's avatar

Along with ….

“if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”

‭‭II Chronicles‬ ‭7‬:‭14‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/2ch.7.14.NKJV

Donna Ruth's avatar

Amen. Amen. Amen.

The only way out of this is for hearts to know how we have offended God, turn to Him, beg forgiveness, and amend our lives.

Kyrie eleison. Lord have mercy.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Well, this has upset my peace of mind this morning. Just to even be aware of that 10 star resort in Switzerland turns my stomach. These elitist globalists must believe that the peons of the rest of the world look up at them in awe, and believe the nonsense that comes out of their mouths from their putrid brains.

That Burgenstock place seems to be a perfect place for target practice for Putin.

Am I over-reacting?

On a peaceful note, the wrens in my wren house have newly hatched babies.

Erin Fight's avatar

One more reason to love Thomas Massie. In this video, he speaks analogies of his homestead to government. At one point, he talks about the "precious pin" that most House & Senate members wear on their lapel that grant them special reverence and privilege.

He keeps his in his pocket.

https://youtu.be/Y9ikrpW9GcQ?si=CtLARMOUV64dSWfT

RunningLogic's avatar

This one is awesome too! Maybe we can all lobby to have Massie and some others get the ball rolling on this?? Have them release the congressional sexual misconduct hush money information!!

https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2024/06/14/thomas-massie-destroys-trump-verdict-and-congress-with-brutal-truths-about-hush-money-n2397278

DeAnna's avatar

I love what Massie is doing. Expose them all!

Peter GL's avatar

about time we hear this!!! I was debating a friend on why Bragg went after Trump, and what was different because "it was about falsifying business records, 34 times". Just sent him the link above.

Erin Fight's avatar

WOW!!! No words to describe his common-sense brilliance. Thank you for this.

RunningLogic's avatar

You’re welcome! Always glad to share!

MaryAnn's avatar

Listened to Massie on TC podcast. He is ‘down to the marrow’ brilliant and authentic. I believe he is the type of person our forefathers, with guidance from The Creator God, envisioned to lead this country. Tom Massie is a gem in the dung heap that is our nation’s capital.

Kelli's avatar

WHOA! That is great.

RunningLogic's avatar

We could certainly do worse 🙂 I do like him a lot but wonder if he’s better in the House or even more helpful maybe in the Senate? It would be fantastic if he could replace that reptile McConnell.

Based Florida Man's avatar

Thomas Massie is my fave congress critter. I'm glad we multipled him.

Gigi Gummerson's avatar

This video is AMAZING!! I’m in awe of this guy, to think he built this house without nails! AND holds multiple patents…I have a totally new appreciation for who he is.

Erin Fight's avatar

Totally old world style construction...built to last. Our 187 year old B & B is built like that-- post and peg.

rolandttg's avatar

He wears a pin too. With a running tally of the debt clock

Paige Green's avatar

That was fantastic! Tom Massie is an amazing man.

Principled Pragmatist's avatar

What is on the pin? Don’t have time to watch.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and after that surgical hit, Putin needs to do Davos.

Roger Beal's avatar

For three years i've been saying that. The GPS coordinates are readily available. Oh, and don't forget to kneecap all those taxpayer-supplied private jets at the same time, so any surviving demigod cretin wealthoids will be forced to take public transit to return home.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...or God forbid, they would have to fly commercial.

Roger Beal's avatar

They won't be allowed to board because likely NONE of them are vaxxed.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No way did they get the real covid DeathVax.

Marsha McGrath's avatar

I don’t think they still check for vax, at least when I flew in Canada a couple of weeks ago, nobody showed any interest.

Vonu's avatar

Nothing is more commercial than a Lear Jet full of MICIMATT complex members.

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Do the jets first. Fun to see what happens

Marsha McGrath's avatar

I smile reading the descriptive words “demigod cretin wealthoids”. You have a way with words - cuts to the heart of what I see as just evil creatures.

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

It would be hilarious if he used the same weapon on Davos that they used on Lahaina.

Watching them scramble for blue tarps while their hotels and jets melted would be epic.

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Vonu's avatar

Davos is a pimple on the butt of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum that Scott Ritter was prevented from attending by the US State Department's seizure of his passport and his removal from the flight thereto.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes...he better hurry before they leave.

SB's avatar

Kinda makes me think of the French Revolution. Let them eat cake and all that...

Freedom Fox's avatar

When I first saw the big yellow arrow Jeff put on the picture of Burgenstock Resort I thought it was pointing to a spot on it he really wanted us to look at, not the highlighted text below. So I zoomed in on it hoping to spot Klaus and friends foraging for bugs to eat in the greenery.

Ned B.'s avatar

Claustrophobia: the feeling you get when trapped in an elevator with Klaus Schwab.

https://nedb.substack.com/p/claustrophobia-with-klaus-schwab

Marsha McGrath's avatar

Bet you didn’t, but a great image.

Peter GL's avatar

that's what they ought to serve them!!! They can even have seconds. They will also feel good about themselves for not eating beef which pollutes to compensate for the private planes they fly in and out

A.J.'s avatar

A lot of eye drops in their drinks, an old bartenders trick to clear the bar of troublemakers.

RunningLogic's avatar

I agree Dave, I am equally disgusted by this, and by them!! 🤬

Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING SOMETHING: Were the Nazis invited to Yalta, Casablanca or Tehran?... Its not a peace conference... Its a war conference... You don't invite the country you are fighting or about to go into a full war with to a war conference...

Datagal's avatar

I feel the same. Fancy resort, do-nothing meeting while hundreds of thousands of young men have been slaughtered. And more are being conscripted off the street. And we taxpayers even paid for Zelensky’s accommodations. I HATE these people!

MaryAnn's avatar

I wonder if Z got new camo sweats for the occasion?😉

Peter GL's avatar

our tax money at work

RunningLogic's avatar

They are among the most despicable of the despicable!!

Peter GL's avatar

yet they call us deplorable and other such niceties

RunningLogic's avatar

It’s projection, as always with them…

Jpeach's avatar

While Western Elites wine, dine and do elitist things, in the name of saving Democracy, Congress is voting reinstate the Draft.

laura-ann Knox's avatar

Show me a picture of your wren house! I want one.

MaryAnn's avatar

Dave: thank you for giving voice to what I was thinking. Congrats on your new ‘wrenners’

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Like very much both of your your last two comments.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Trilby - yes, the doves represent peace, I have a lot of those too. They come early to feed. And the rabbits and squirrels take turns eating the ear corn.

KBB's avatar

Here in the southern New Mexico desert, we are watching the quail couples introducing their chicks to our bird feeder.

Based Florida Man's avatar

Get a load of (((New York Times))) throwing out terms like "Hard-Line Republicans" for simply being normal conservatives.

Since I don't want experimental shots and am complaining my 2020 vote was stolen, I guess I'm a Hard-Line anti-vaxxer election-denier.

PamelaZelie's avatar

This Traditional Catholic (FBI label- ‘potential domestic terrorist’) agrees with you 100%.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I bet the FBI considers me a domestic terrorist because I am a veteran.

Vonu's avatar

That's probably better than the traitor I'd consider you to be if you'd engaged in any foreign military exercises not declared by Congress since WW2.

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Vonu's avatar

Ignorance is your problem, not stupidity.

Treason is defined in the Constitution at Article 3, Section 3, as consisting "only in levying War against (the United States), or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

All members of the American military take an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; (and to) bear true faith and allegiance to the same."

When the military is committed to foreign actions without a declaration of war by Congress, as required by Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 11 of the Constitution, that is a violation of the Constitution, arguably the action of domestic enemies.

When a member of the military participates in an unconstitutional foreign military deployment, s/he violates both the Constitution and his/her oath to "support and defend" it, giving "aid and comfort" to it's "domestic enemies," committing treason by the definition given by the Constitution.

FourWinds's avatar

I'm positive they view me that way between my vocalizations against the scamdemic, whacking sex organs off kids, DIE (misspelling intentional) and chemtrails. Oh, and I hate what the resident in the white house is doing to the US.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

There are more of us, than them.

Marsha McGrath's avatar

So many worthy descriptions here today! 😊

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

You’re in good company.

Freedom Fox's avatar

I was vax-skeptical pre-2020. Didn't get them since they would always make me sick when I had to in the military decades earlier, and never got sick without them. But to each their own, I thought.

I am anti-vax post-2020. Ultra anti-vax. They should be on the the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry Substance Priority List. Somewhere between arsenic and cyanide.

https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/spl/index.html

laura-ann Knox's avatar

Fly your Deplorable flag high

Principled Pragmatist's avatar

The tell is that there are only far right Republicans, hard right, extremist, etc., etc. There is no equivalent on the left. Which defies any sort of logic. The center is the center. So there must be equal numbers on either side of the center.

CaliforniaLost's avatar

Everyone who hasn't taken the 9th or 10th recommended covid kill shot is an antivaxxer.

My Covidian brother stopped at 5. I guess he is against The Science now!!!

Louise (the mother)'s avatar

THIS! This is the kind of literary genius I expect from C&C each morning!

“The conference’s goal is … a joint communique! A ‘communique’ is much better, much fancier, and much more expensive than some silly press release.

Communiques can only be developed in five-star resorts on Swiss mountaintops, after spa treatments, stuffed game hens, and high-tech pagan potlach rituals.”

And when you teased that the proof for the un-seriousness of the swanky peace conference was our own contribution to the cast of characters, I knew it was K.H.—she is the funniest choice, so it figures.

RunningLogic's avatar

I know, the whole post was awesome but that part was particularly so 😁

Copernicus's avatar

Runninglogic, sorry to hijack this comment stream, but you've gotta watch this from the Indiana GOP Rules Committee hearing yesterday. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tABB_5u0aDU

I posted a separate comment already, but since I saw ya' here...

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Copernicus!! I appreciate it!

Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I was wondering what would have happened if they had just taken ideas from each one and thrown it into CHATGPT - kind of think ALLLLL taxpayers would have been saved some cash.

MaryAnn's avatar

The luxury and surrounding natural beauty of Burgenstock would be lost on our demented WH resident. I bet Jill is piiiiisssssed.

Marsha McGrath's avatar

So much enjoyment from words that create great images!

Deb's avatar

Of course Zelensky does not want a peace agreement... He would no longer have access the US taxpayer's funds to live on. He might have to go to work! All in our nickel...

Neil Kellen's avatar

Correct. His piano playing skills have gone flaccid, so he must obtain is satisfaction from other means.

Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

I see what you did there. 🤣🤣

Marsha McGrath's avatar

Flaccid “skills” or ?

SB's avatar

IDK, if his work is using his shlong to play piano, maybe we should keep paying him to be dictator?

RunningLogic's avatar

Nah he can just start an Only Fans account 😑

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I suspect he is "light in his loafers."

Beth Bart's avatar

Happy good morning🌞☕️

Politico Phil's avatar

Positive Outcomes of Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy Durable in Long-COVID

Convincing One-Year Data from Small Randomized Trial

PETER A. MCCULLOUGH, MD, MPH

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/long-term-outcomes-of-hyperbaric

Politico Phil's avatar

This is good news and I'm grateful that McCullough is willing to talk about "alternatives". However, at some point we have got to quit characterizing bio-weapon injuries as Long-Covid or even as "vaccine" injuries! By using the terminology of those attacking us and killing us, we are aiding them in their psyops that prevents the American population from seeing their attacker.

McCullough still consistently calls these injection injuries Long-Covid in the posts I've seen. The injuries suffered by Americans from the bio-weapon shot are being covered up by denying that they are injuries but rather they are long-covid symptoms. This is how they are deflecting blame and liability. The only sentence in the post where McCullough references injury is at the end: "In summary, this is good news for those suffering with long-COVID and with vaccine injury syndromes." Syndrome? Really?

Here's an example my son told me about who was referred to him for IVIG treatment. The 55 year old patient was referred by his neurologist and PCP who diagnosed him with long-covid. He is retired military and was very physically active, exercising and muscular. He got his first covid injection in 1/22 and got covid infection later that month. He began suffering loss of energy and significant weight loss which increased over time. After getting his second injection, he again caught covid and became completely debilitated in June, confined to a wheelchair unable to walk or stand, difficulty swallowing and holding his neck up. Long story short, a muscle biopsy was done in 3/23 revealing muscle necrosis and was referred at that point to my son for IVIG therapy. He has been treated with IVIG for one year and is now able to walk and the MD has discontinued treatments.

Who gets a second shot when symptoms start with the first one?? But of course, it's just long-covid.

daverkb's avatar

Agreed. The term 'Covid' is totally non-descriptive. The word Covid is believed in only because the perpetrators behind the crime used the world non-stop repetitively over and over again. And there was only sham testing and attribution. The sheep always believe the talking electronic dots on their indoctrination machines (TV, cable, captured media outlets).

If they get away with this, they will do it again. Just the way of criminals.

Politico Phil's avatar

Speaking of doing it again... I just listened to an interview with Michael Yon. If he's right, we are about to go to the next level. I'll be posting on it Mon. Sent this to my sons.............

Guys, when you listen to this, be prepared. Two interviews about the war going to the next level. Yon is talking about what is being rolled out in Japan tomorrow and the second interview is about UN troops now being staged - from the illegal immigrants - in the western countries to enforce orders on the population, something which Yon also talks about.

It appears it's about to get real.

https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1801906055649141141

Marsha McGrath's avatar

“dave”, I always find myself in full agreement with your wise words!

FourWinds's avatar

I am so darn sick and tired of hearing the word "vaccine" assigned to these bio-weapons. (I am not referring to you, just in general.) It isn't a "vaccine". It never was a "vaccine". It never will be one. Ever. And now the 9th circuit court agrees.

Marsha McGrath's avatar

Yes! Who? But many did get seconds and thirds and boosters just for assurances so that their initial sickness would be cured. More of the same thing that didn’t work. Even worse, more complications and illness. Crazy people; crazy world!

CHop's avatar

FLCCC had a whole podcast about Hypervaric Oxygen chamber. I think it was about a year ago. The doctors promoting it cured an elderly woman of Dementia. She was able to leave the nursing home and live back at home. They also discussed many other benefits.

Politico Phil's avatar

Dr. Douglass Sr wrote a whole book about HO many years ago.

Wheaton's avatar

Just curious has anyone here ever done it and found it effective? Don’t you have to get inside a long bag with a zipper, lay down and be zipped in with no way out other than a remote to beep for help ? Way Too claustrophobic for me. Just curious how people handle this and if it’s worth it.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Yes!! I can only speak to my experience: I was experiencing horrible neuropathy due to an allopathic treatment - burning & tingling all the way up my shins, couldn't sense the ground when walking, couldn't bear to wear socks/shoes or have even the sheets over my feet at night, it was in my hands, causing a loss of coordination and dexterity. In addition, my speech was affected - couldn't find the words for which I was looking or form complete sentences - and the MD said that there was nothing they could do for it, I would just have to learn to live with it. Oh, and to continue the treatment that was causing all of that!! 😒🙄 I saw a naturopath who said, "We absolutely can treat that!" After ONE 90-minute session, the neuropathy was 50% gone!!!! After 12 weeks, there was only a little residual tingling between the big and 2nd toes on my feet. Three years later, it has remained just that little bit of tingling. The dexterity in my hands isn't what it used to be, however, I am not dropping every other item, so that is a huge improvement. I still have trouble finding some words when I am talking or typing, which is why it takes so long to post!! 🤣😂🤣

I did use the "sleeping bag" HBOT, but the last time I was at the clinic, they had a "sit in the chair" version, which I used.

I did feel a little trepidation the first time, but it was fine, and the results were so amazing that I looked forward to the treatment every week.

Feel free to ask any questions you might have.

Mrs. "the Knife"

RunningLogic's avatar

Wow that’s an amazing testimonial! Glad you were able to use this treatment and that it helped you so much!

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

It truly was an answer to prayer - we did not know where to turn, medically speaking, and we spent hours crying out to the Lord for direction, researching every bit of info that came our way, and we were led to this answer. We are very grateful!!

Mrs. "the Knife"

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

And of course it is not covered by insurance! Compared to all the other medical bills, it really was not expensive, $110 for 90 minutes in 2021.

Mrs. "the Knife"

RunningLogic's avatar

Wonderful answer to your prayers!!

Karen Bandy's avatar

That’s an amazing story Mrs. The Knife. Glad it helped and glad you found the right naturopath.

A friend’s husband was doing them fairly recently for his cancer and the only bad side effect was vision problems, he had to keep changing his prescription.

If I recall his treatments were more expensive, something like $200-300. But I can double check that. Maybe it varies by region.

Fred's avatar

Not always. Many large medical centers have a huge chamber, where you can sit upright and chat comfortably with other “divers.” Room for stretchers too. Doc always in attendance.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Good for so many ailments, cancer treatments etc etc, but not covered by insurance and not recommended by Drs. 🤔😩

Melissa S's avatar

Nearly every kind of treatment, type of doctor or medicine that works is not covered by my insurance. Or recommended by the doctors who count. Only allopathic medicine approved of by the pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies as well as the CDC and FDA. That includes naturopathic and functional medicine, herbalism, TCM, Ayurvedic medicine, Hyperbaric Oxygen, nutritionists who don't follow the approved food pyramid, chiropractors and others. I have concluded that in most cases, to get the help I need, I must pay out of pocket. All while paying for my medical insurance and Rx plan, which I must maintain in the event of an emergency.

Politico Phil's avatar

Clearly, we have to get out of the system.

J Boss's avatar

I believe that constraint is imposed by the insurance provider's contract, even to the extent of what docs can say to a patient about healthy stuff.

AngelaK's avatar

Lol, my medicare advantage plan says it pays for some acupuncture except I can't find any provider!!

MaryAnn's avatar

I have found Drs of Chiropractic who are trained in acupuncture. Most are Asian 👍🏻

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

No, you don't need insurance for an emergency that's unlikely to happen.

State and federal law require treatment for life-saving measures. (Not that I would ever trust the Medical cartel for anything at all )

Do what we've done at age 61 & 55: refuse to fund these asshats and simply opt out. Stick the thousands of dollars you were paying for insurance into a separate account.

On an island's avatar

Can you expand on this logic Fred? It sounds like what you’re saying is dump the insurance. And rely on what? Concierge medicine? Medicare? And if you do have a serious accident or illness are you implying they have to treat you regardless? And if so, what happens when you get the $200k bill that takes all your savings?

I’m being sincere in challenging you for more info b/c we are also looking for an alternative. My husband is staying at a job he hates for a few more years just for the insurance.

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

"And if you do have a serious accident or illness are you implying they have to treat you regardless? And if so, what happens when you get the $200k bill that takes all your savings?"

Great questions.

My wife has been an RN for 25 years now. I noticed several years ago that her hospital patients were mostly uninsured. They waltzed into the ER without insurance or ability to pay, and they waltzed right back out days or weeks later without a thought to the bill because the hospitals are required by law to treat them, and you.

What most of them don't do, bult I highly recommend to responsible people, is that they negotiate the final bills. and offer to pay cash. The $200,000 bills you hear about are fake medical cartel rates that the hospital corporations - with the help of Medicare / Medicaid - pretend to charge the insurance companies.

Tell the medical provider you're paying cash, and the bill drops by 70% or more. If you're unable to pay that, they'll gladly setup a payment plan that you can afford.

If you're an average family, you're paying $500 - $1200 a month for health insurance. That's $6,000 - $14,400 per year that you COULD put into a savings account and pay for whatever you need out of pocket, and at a 50-70% discount.

My wife and I eat real food, and avoid processed anything. Neither one of us goes to "well checkups" or has seen a doctor since Jan. 2020.

Nor would I ever do so again, excepting a major injury like a broken bone, etc.

We also don't have any Rx's nor will we ever again. (She ditched her SSRIs last year.)

Let's say you *did* have an auto accident that required surgery, God forbid.

The hospital is required by law to treat you regardless of ability to pay. After you get the ridiculous bill, you negotiate a discount. If still unable to satisfy the bill, you simply setup a payment plan with the hospital, paying what you can reasonably afford.

Free yourselves from the Medical-Pharma Industrial Complex shackles, and walk away from the plantation. As you're leaving, give Massa Big Pharma the finger. Your great grandparents didn't need or likely have medical insurance plans. You don't need them either.

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

After thinking some more on the topic, I remembered a client of mine who was paying $2.65 per month on an agreed hospital payment plan. He paid it faithfully every month, and was never sued or harassed.

Fred's avatar

Keep in mind though, the requirements to treat only extend to the point of “stability.” Some facilities may extend a person’s care, but there is no requirement to do so.

On an island's avatar

Fred is can’t thank you enough for explaining this. I’m going to share and discuss with my husband. I can only imagine how liberating it would feel to be free of the corrupt medipharm cartel. 🙏

FourWinds's avatar

I was hit by a car while walking in 2007. Because it was an "auto" accident, the person's "auto" insurance was supposed to cover it. Had I had regular medical insurance, it would not cover anything because it was a car accident. That's Ohio, anyhow.

Thanks for the information. I have full intention of refusing to sign up for any medicare program. After watching how hard they screw over our customers in the pharmacy and after the past 4 years, they will not see a dime from me.

Lana's avatar

My husband is self employed and we have used a medical need sharing program (Samaritan Ministries) for all our married life since insurance without a group policy was more than our house payment (even with a high deductible). It’s been a beautiful thing and we use it for any approach to medical care we choose! :)

AngelaK's avatar

Not if you need a major surgery..the money set aside from Medicare or even insurance will not even come close, trust me. I have seen the bills. Take medicare when you are eligible.

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Those are what they charge Big Insurance. Cash payers pay something like 30% of that rate.

A friend of mine is an anesthesiologist who is partners in a surgery center here. They accept no insurance, no Medicaid - nothing but cash. As a result, their fees are a tiny fraction of the fake fees that the medical cartel pretends to charge the insurance companies.

If you spent a few years extricating yourself from this absurd system, pocketing the insurance premiums you would have paid, and skipping the BS biannual pharma sales pitch (oops, I mean, "wellness checks") you'd have tens of thousands of actual dollars in a segregated savings account to be able to deal with whatever real medical issue comes up.

Throw in eating right and maybe a little exercise and you'll never have to deal with your medical abusers again.

Peter GL's avatar

I had brain surgery four years ago. My share was $500. The hospital charged $50,000, medicare approved $10,000 and paid $9,500 with my share $500 (all numbers about - remember it was brain surgery, I don't remember exact numbers)

Fred's avatar

The VA pulled funding of studies of HBO for traumatic brain injured (TBI) veterans. 😡

Politico Phil's avatar

Of course. Truth be known they want all the highly trained American war veterans gone.

Charles Williams's avatar

If bump stocks are ever going to be illegal then rubber bands need to be addressed also. The same effect can be accomplished with either. In fact the rubber band technique may (arguably) be more accurate than bump stocks. There is also a technique that utilizes a belt loop for the rapid trigger reset.

D&R’s Gma's avatar

My son had to do “sensitivity training” in 6th grade for shooting a rubber band back at the girls who shot the boys first. That was 20+ years ago. Can you imagine the sentence for that crime now? 😳😳 I’m guessing different rubber bands 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Charles Williams's avatar

IMO the best bands for finger guns are the heavier ones like those found on broccoli at some produce stores. They are very similar to the ones I've referenced only about twice the length. As for your son's situation (no doubt some Karen for a teacher), kids today get into trouble for just holding up their hands in the imaginary pistol shape. A very, very sad comentary on the state of being a child in todays world.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

This may be slightly off topic, but in my experience the "finger gun" rubber band method is not nearly as effective as the two hand "sling shot" method. The thicker bands are definitely better and I regularly dispatch flying insects with them. Mostly when they alight but I have taken some very large, slow-flying, house flies on the wing. And even one hornet. Happy hunting!

Charles Williams's avatar

A big thumbs up for being able to take them on the wing. I used to be good with a variation on the sling shot using paperclips for ammo.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Paper clips can cause collateral damage. It has been awhile, but back in school we used to take small scraps of paper, fold them over and over then flatten them and bend them in the middle. We could then use them to pull the rubber band stretched between the thumb and forefinger of the opposite hand taut then let fly. With the right tension and at short distances they could raise a welt on bare skin but a miss was very unlikely to break anything. Ah, memories!

We would make blow darts out of uncooked spaghetti noodles by wetting the end to make it sticky then attaching a small amount of cotton from a cotton ball or q-tip. Not to mention making very small darts with needles, pencil erasers, and tape. Just shows that kids will find a way to entertain themselves when there are no "smart" phones or computers available!

Charles Williams's avatar

Ditto. I must say the spagetti noodle is a new one on me. Kids today don't know the fun they've missed. Or, how did we ever survive? "It's all fun and games untill someone looses and eye". ;)

RJ Rambler's avatar

Yes! let's war with rubber bands! 🎉 🤔🙈

Charles Williams's avatar

How about dualing at ten paces?

Michele's avatar

Wire coat hangers, too--ban 'em! Who knew you had so many machine guns in yr closet!

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/04/coat-hanger-machine-gun-dias-drop-in-auto-sear/

Margaret's avatar

Good morning! Happy Saturday!

Safe travels for you and your family, Jeff!

rolandttg's avatar

Anyone who believes there was one shooter in the Las Vegas massacre needs a red pill IV drip 24/7 until their brains begin to function again.

CHop's avatar

One of the lead investigator went on to become police chief in Maui

KBB's avatar

I don't know about the number of shooters, but I'm absolutely certain that the guy they pinned it on was on SSRIs. The common thread of mass shootings that nobody is allowed to mention.

Marsha McGrath's avatar

Never not consider the FBI.

John Galt?'s avatar

The war must continue, and it must escalate. Also, we need another pandemic. If not, the cleansing of our debt cannot occur. Everything comes down to that. Fiat currencies survive on debt, and debt can only be washed away via crisis.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The Military Industrial Complex insists.

Principled Pragmatist's avatar

It is a historical truism that nations that are in decline engage in useless wars, and run up their debts massively. This is the way you begin a true “great reset“. A hot war, and then “the settlement discussions“ begin, which include a devaluing of currencies, redrawing borders, so called alliances, etc. Bankers come away richer than ever, and the elites are saved.

The end.

FourWinds's avatar

You mean the population "must be reduced", like all of these arrogant bastards want.

Loretta Thomas's avatar

So would the court strike down the CDC ( or which3ver agency) redefining a vaccine?

SB's avatar

Yea, anyone got a chart comparing deaths from vid jabs to death from those bump stocks? I'm thinking the jabs would win that contest.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

CDC did not have to authority to declare a rent moratorium either.

RunningLogic's avatar

I like the recent decisions limiting agencies’ powers, this is overdue (and I’d really like to see it as a step to eliminating many of them entirely).

SB's avatar

IDK, how about we put the whole "who controls our territory in Ukraine" problem to a vote. Let the people in the territories decide: Putin or Zelensky for president? I know which way I'd vote...

TB's avatar

Russia already conducted such a referendum in parts of the Donbass. Unfortunately everyone who isn't Russia says that the voting was rigged. It can't be easy to come up with a method that everyone will be satisfied with.

Peter GL's avatar

sort of like the vote in Ukraine last month. Oh wait, Zelensky did away with that

SB's avatar

Let's just flip a coin a dozen times and be done with it.

SB's avatar

Yea, "fair" would probably be difficult.

JT's avatar

I had the exact thought: both sides pull out of the disputed territory, the UN comes in and supervises elections, and the people decide under who's rule they want to live. Easy-peasy!

Oh yeah, and with respect to membership, NATO tells the Z-man...no way, never, ain't going to happen!

Susan Stephens's avatar

The UN monitor elections?!?!

Surely you jest!

Marsha McGrath's avatar

Are you serious? The UN? That’s a new breed of Islamic control. Be careful what you wish for.

Peter GL's avatar

and miss the opportunity to have another member state to fund the military complex?

Peter GL's avatar

If the choice is limited to Putin or Zelensky in my mind its a no brainer: PUTIN, Hillary and demoncraps be damned

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Kamala looks like a character out of Gotham

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

She is the dumbest woman in government.

...and she always seems to be stoned.

AngelaK's avatar

And she sounds like a mentally challenged laughing hyena...

Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

The female Joker...

I wonder if it isn't her husband that is really running things behind the scenes.

nancy knox-bierman's avatar

We all need to remember this is OUR MONEY paying for this luxurious crap. While the average fam is staying at the Motel 6 or the Holiday Express, we are paying for these morons to have a $2000 a night room.

Remember that next time Dad is searching for a Super 8 off the interstate.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

While homeless veterans sleep in the streets...

nancy knox-bierman's avatar

and kids go without breakfast because school is closed.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I am worried about the extremely hot weather due next week in Pittsburgh.

Cooling centers will be open, but they will be closed on Juneteenth.

So what do the elderly and folks who cannot pay their utility bills do?

Die?

nancy knox-bierman's avatar

I think we are reaching a total breakdown here. Is this how the average Roman felt?