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daiva's avatar

🗨 The last three years in one sentence: Tony Fauci developed a weaponized virus and then suppressed treatments in order to create the market for a trillion dollar vaccine.

(h/t Toby Rogers of uTobian --> tobyrogers.substack.com)

PS Doesn't look like Fauci's retinas might be occluded when it comes to visualising illicit profits.

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lynn's avatar

hospitals went along with it because it meant massive profits

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, hospitals did not profit overall from the incentive payments because the government shut them down except for treating C0vld patients, remember?

But, yes, hospitals had to accept incentive payments because otherwise they could not have survived. They were, essentially, blackmailed into following Gov protocols, patients’ well being be damned.

Hospitals have been conditioned to do this for many decades, ever since the first “quality initiative” from Medicare came along. Follow the Gov dictates, in the name of Quality (TM) or you won’t get paid. So, it was not a far step for them to simply fall in line this time. Except the stakes were even bigger.

Don’t get me wrong - what the hospitals did was immoral and evil. Had one CEO stood up and held a press conference describing the ways the protocols were opposite of the Hippocratic Oath and Patients Bill of Rights and all that, and so his hospital was not following them, patients would have flocked to their facility, they would have probably been a catalyst for more CEOs to stand up. But, no one did.

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Emumundo's avatar

Hospitals were inhumane bastards during Covid. My daughter in laws father was hospitalized

during Delta. The family asked for ivermectin and vitamin C but we’re told that was not not possible and the hospital offered remdesivir instead. They were not allowed to see their loved one and the hospital wouldn’t give them information on how he was doing. Maybe one call every 3 days. After 3 weeks they were given a 15 minute visit to watch him die. I’ve never seen anything as inhumane and evil in my entire life. There are thousands of stories like this. Hospitals are VERY much a part of this insanity and should not ever be given a pass for their reprehensible behavior.

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JimB's avatar

My son is an RN and worked in an ICU, which basically became a ‘Covid ward’ or whatever the cause of the respiratory inflammation actually was. He worked the entire time there was not a ‘vaccine’ for what was then and is presently called CV19. His own DR told him do not get any of these vax due to two recent bouts of anaphylaxis and autoimmune issues….. so when the vax’s became available the hosp admin gave him 90 days to get it or be terminated….. day 89 the mandate was called off. All of my vaxed family and dozens off ‘friends’ who are vaxed knew of his pending potential termination , not one of them has inquired about whether to not he was terminated…..people showed their true colors during phase 1 of the ‘great regret.’….

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I completely agree. This happened to my grandmother and my poor mother who was helpless to help her. By the grace of God someone saw my gma was breathing fine and just gave her oxygen. She was discharged. We were inches away from them giving Remdesivir. My mom told them no and shockingly they complied

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N Springer's avatar

They murdered my brother in law with RunDeathIsNear and a vent. When I heard he was in the hospital I told my mom not to let them give him RunDeathIsNear (I’m in TX, they are all in CA) it was too late. He’d been given that and another experimental drug. Eventually he was put on a vent and my sister got to see him at the last minute. I don’t know if my nieces went or not. He died on my niece’s 16th birthday. I wonder if the hospital treated him like crap because he was unjabbed. My sister, convinced he would have been fine if he’d just been jabbed, promptly got herself boosted and my nieces both jabbed. I felt totally helpless being half a country away and knowing I’m the “crazy” family member with all the “conspiracy theories “. I mean Conspiracy Truths.

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Copernicus's avatar

I agree completely.

I am not giving the hospitals a pass. I am simply pointing out that they did not derive extreme financial gains as is often alleged. The incentives were/are evil and corrupt. But they did not, for most hospitals, remarkably alter the hospitals' overall bottom line, at least not around here.

No human should have to endure what your family went through. It was absolutely evil.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I don't think you can make a blanket statement like that. Our little rural hospital certainly made big bank on the pandemic. The original hospital has been partially torn-down, the remaining is undergoing major renovations. They are building an entirely new clinic and adding many more beds. When asked "Where's all this money coming from?" The answer is "Federal covid money". Everyone here has doubts our community can support this facility longterm without major property tax hikes.

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Copernicus's avatar

Wow. That’s crazy.

Thanks for taking the time to explain that.

I do know, although I cannot divulge how I know, that a local hospital here would have lost huge amounts of $ were it not for the covld money. That was the only way they broke even.

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Credenda's avatar

So heartbreaking to hear this. And yet, it wasn’t a one-off. The situation you describe was repeated hundreds of thousands of times the world over. I pray for justice.

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Tonya's avatar

I know of a family who requested high dose vitamin C treatment. The hospital gave the man 500 mg orally.

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Peace's avatar

Tonya - What a joke! That's not even a fraction of what I take daily on an ongoing basis! Very early on, Dr. Andrew Saul was seeing amazing results from high dose vitamin C treatments.

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Tonya's avatar

It's pathetic that doctors are so ignorant about its use.

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Barbls's avatar

Hospitals in Sioux Falls SD required their employees to get jabbed, or else they were fired. This in a supposedly mandate-free state. When I complained to our US Representative Dusty Johnson (R), he responded with a script that could have been written by Dr Fauci.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Where was your wonderful conservative Governor on this?

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Barbls's avatar

She said the fired workers could get another job. "Let them eat cake." Noem is a mixed bag, but leans on the side of corporate "rights" vs individual liberty. Her stated reasoning was that businesses had the right to exercise business policies. She was dead wrong on the forced vaxxes. Currently, she is not doing anything to stand up against eminent domain for private gain of CO2 sequestration companies that are barreling through private farmland. But she's pro-life, pro classical American history, pro 2A, and a lot of other good stuff. As I said, a mixed bag.

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Tonya's avatar

When everyone was saying how great she was, I still had this fact in the back of my mind: right before covid, she opposed an effort to remove vaccine requirements for schools.

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Annie's avatar

Rino alert. She's the rightside of the uniparty.

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Copernicus's avatar

That’s really disappointing to hear. Where ARE our true We The People patriots and office holders?

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Barbls's avatar

If we're looking for a perfect leader in a perfect place, we have to die and go to heaven for that. In SD there is a growing Freedom Caucus (sdfreedomcaucus.com) in the state legislature and people do have access to elected officials in a way that they do not in other states. Individual-liberty constitutional conservatives are starting to run for office at local and county levels. There is increased scrutiny of the voting systems in the state by SDCanvassing.com - a grassroots organization. One of the biggest challenges is fighting out-of-state highly funded organizations that get California-style woke measures on the ballot by bamboozling people and lying about the effects of those measures. It is an all-out attack on the the culture of the state.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Sounds like hands in the pockets of big corporations.

Very, very disappointing.

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cat's avatar

Isn't SD where eminent domain is currently being abused to take over a bunch of farmland for some carbon scam?

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Barbls's avatar

Yes. But it's not just South Dakota. It's cutting a swath through at least 5 midwestern states and burying CO2 in North Dakota. This was made possible by a horrible SCOTUS ruling in 2006 that interpreted "public use" to mean "public benefit" and that increasing a local tax base = public benefit. Horrible ruling and I hope somehow that can be overturned. https://reason.com/volokh/2020/06/23/the-15th-anniversary-of-kelo-v-city-of-new-london/

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RJ Rambler's avatar

😭 we were seriously considering moving there at one time.

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Barbls's avatar

It is actually a good state to live in. SD is far better than most states in terms of personal liberty, and people who were born and raised here tend to live and let live. A big problem is the well-funded external pressures on the state bringing leftists to the cities. And cities, as we know, hand out taxpayer funded "services" and dominate the politics in most states.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Thanks for sharing that, I’ll pass it on to the election integrity people in our Oregon county. Yes, we have to keep reminding people that they have to fight hard to keep their state, because the bad guys want to take over.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

SD was a refuge for us when we fled NC under Gov Cooper. It was a breath of fresh air in 2021!

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Barbls's avatar

Agreed. I escaped NJ under Murph the Smurf.

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devoalan's avatar

Sounds like a neocon.

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Barbls's avatar

I'd say she is a country club republican and business-first republican, like most in our SD Senate. The SD House tends to be more individual liberty supporting, but the Senate can kill House bills in committee without ever bringing them to a floor vote.

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Roger Beal's avatar

That Senate-over-House policy is as asinine as ranked choice voting.

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YYR's avatar

Both sides of legislatures work that way. Bills originate in either, and often get killed by the other legislative body.

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Barbls's avatar

Would be nice if committees didn't have the power to keep them from a floor vote.

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AJF's avatar

Probably was...they all read from the same script

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, the state cannot override the fed’s Medicare mandate. My understanding, after looking briefly at the SD bill/law, was that it required hospitals to provide exemptions. Which of course they should have been doing anyway but nobody was.

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Barbls's avatar

The SD AG was part of a suit challenging the CMS rule (https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-11-15-more-states-sue-cms-over-vaccine-mandate-rule-health-care-workers; https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-11-11-10-states-sue-cms-over-vaccine-mandate-rule-health-care-workers), but he was impeached under questionable circumstances and we didn't hear much about it after that. The Tenth Amendment is only as good as the states that enforce it, and the "Supremacy Clause" requires federal laws to be "pursuant to the Constitution." Which none of this was.

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Copernicus's avatar

I am pretty certain I referenced the SD bill in emails to my state lawmakers. And even emailed one of the SD bill authors (?) after seeing him in a Stand for Health Freedom interview, thanking him for his work. It was a great bill, and we needed more like it across the country.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I, too, received similar replies from Dusty ‘Fauci’ Johnson. He’s one of the worst RINOS.

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Tonya's avatar

Small private hospitals went under, while giant health care corporations gobbled them up and increased their market share. Just like Amazon vs the mom and pop store on the corner.

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Copernicus's avatar

Just this morning I elected to spend the extra $11 shipping charge to buy a book from an independent entity rather than Amazon. I admit I did give brief consideration to relenting and just saving the 11 bucks. But, given that our family, although not wealthy, is able to expend a bit more in this quest for freedom than some other (for instance, my mom who is on extremely low income), it really wasn’t too hard.

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Roger Beal's avatar

I recommend AbeBooks: A hub for indie sellers of new & used books. Reasonable shipping costs, always.

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Wayne Kerr's avatar

try addall dot com and you can compare a bunch of independent book sellers.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yeah, this book is kind of a specialty book and not available most other places, although I did forget to check AbeBooks - I usually look there. Have found some delightful out-of-print books there.

Thriftbooks.com is another great place to find used and new books.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Unless you're specifically looking for a printed book, don't forget to try to find some of these hard to find books at archive.org for free. They have some movies, too. I frequently cast them to my TV.

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Copernicus's avatar

Good reminder. We have listened to an audiobook from there, I think.

I really wanted a printed book in this case.

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Jo's avatar

I use https://www.bookfinder.com/. It searches Abe, Thriftbooks, and ALL the bookstores on the internet, and then lists all the places a book is for sale, by price.

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Bonbon's avatar

Biblio.com is not Amazon-owned, last I heard, and functions as an independent bookseller marketplace

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William's avatar

unfortunately, amazon has owned abebooks since 2008

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Copernicus's avatar

shoot.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Crap. Another choice co-opted.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Coper,

Your first and second paragraph are hogwash.

Everybody was slowed down or shut down, why shouldn't hospitals be in the same boat ? They can operate just fine with skeleton crews. So people drive a little farther. Nobody needed them much anyway, most would not have died if they didn't go to the hospital to do so. Home health visits by Drs or Telehealth even. Safer then remdesivir, midzolam and vents. These were Dr. Mengele ( Fraudci's ) go to's.

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Copernicus's avatar

Actually, my first two paragraphs are not hogwash.

I have good means of knowing that hospitals make their money by way of the elective (non-emergent) procedures and surgeries that they do. They were prohibited from doing these procedures for months.

Many small rural hospitals have had to close. This is unfortunate for folks in these communities who need emergency services close at hand.

Many large hospitals would not been able to survive financially without the incentive payments. I am not making this up.

You are correct that most people didn’t need them for C0vld, and more would not have needed them at all had widespread vitamin D and early treatment been made available. 100%.

The issue isn’t whether they could operate functionally w skeleton crews. The issue is whether they could be financially sustainable without their usual sources of income. Nobody can argue w that.

Now, that of course assumes that most of what hospitals provide are necessary and needed services, which of course many of us here now question. But that is an entirely different conversation and unrelated to the initial allegation that hospitals (generally) we’re getting richer than usual a la incentive payments.

The incentive payments were/are horrible. A gov bribe, essentially. “We will allow you to remain financially viable if and only if you follow our rules.” The incentive payments without a single doubt influenced how doctors and nurses were told to care for patients. They were evil. And still are. But, most of the time, during the lockdowns, they were not substantially increasing the typically narrow profit margins of the hospitals.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

You don't get it dude. Shut down, shutter down like every other entity. Who cares! Better for us. Do you think the hospital business is special? It is not! It is a business. And now a bad one at that, for the most part.

All Hospital administrators should be hung upside down from their gonads.

Hopefully I am hitting home with you.

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RU's avatar

Or had a substantial portion of doctors stood up and acted with courage, it would have been different. (Of course lots of hospitals are run by doctors.) It's hard to forgive what the doctors and hospitals did. The best analysis I've read basically said it happened b/c doctors are wimps. Most are eggheads who went into medicine b/c they wanted a safe, high status, lucrative career with hours they could set. To go against what the government/medical authorities were telling them to do would have gone against their natural character (wimpiness) and their entire reason for going to medical school (safety/money/convenience/status). Yet another example that "the Science" isn't God and doctors are not sacred or special messengers of truth.

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Copernicus's avatar

Hospitals nowadays seem to be run by insurance companies who control the doctors with reimbursement.

While many doctors are as you describe, I know quite a few who are exactly not as you describe. They went into medicine to help and serve their fellow humans. Now, I won't deny that many probably don't see how they have been influenced by status and money and security - that's true for most of us humans, is it not?

Many doctors simply could not comprehend that the government and their medical authorities would be so anti-human, anti-well-being as what C0vld revealed them to be. Even folks like Pierre Kory report being stunned at the response to early treatment options. Totally shut down and censored - he couldn't believe it. We have drs like Aseem Mulhotra who saw through the statin fraud years ago, yet for some reason was not much skeptical of the rest of pHarma and didn't see through this one until after his dad died from massive coronary blockage.

I suspect that at the outset, nobody ever imagined that the plot was a deep and enormous - it was just supposed to blow over in a couple of weeks, remember? So folks will put up with a lot and will withhold their questions for a couple of weeks. But then it continued, and it got worse, and folks had gotten used to being silent, and the fear was enormous.

I know dr friends whose worldviews as I understood them would have made them willing to walk into the teeth of a pandemic like the Christian church of old who were paralyzed with fear. So then it was easier to perpetuate the fear a la censorship and threat of job loss.

And again, I say, most drs have zero inkling that their medical authorities would lie so egregiously and allow harm to be done to patients. And yes, you would be correct to say that, well, then, they aren't thinking very clearly or well. I've had a hard time wanting to hang out w/ my various doctor friends for the last couple of years because of exactly this. They don't see or at least don't talk about the harms. It's all silence.

If a substantial portion of doctors stood up and acted with courage, it would have been very, very different indeed.

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RU's avatar

The silence thing you mention is interesting. It reminded me: I noticed the other day it seems very quiet this summer. Like, no one is talking about this...or much of anything. I don't think people are over it by any stretch, so I don't think it's rest. It feels more like reality is sinking in, the virtue-signaling chatter has stopped, the masks are gone, the virtue-signaling flags have been taken down from lawns and porches, and forces are realigning beneath the surface. I live in a very blue place, so maybe reality is *finally* sinking in.

Anyway, to the original point...

Those insurance co's are run by doctors too. They all have full medical divisions that define preferred treatment protocols and policies.

I totally understand the shock and initial silence at the start. I can also understand that they didn't want to believe they could/would be lied to by officials. Most everyone thought Western "civilized" society was immune to this sort of thing. I can maybe even believe that they thought "covid" was truly a deadly virus (though all data from 2019 onward showed otherwise). It was bizarre and surreal to be able to look at data in real time from sites like worldometer and compare that to the insane, hysteric reaction.

What I struggle with is that medical practitioners let it go on and on for years, even after they had to have known something was up. Masks and lockdowns should have been a dead giveaway. Same for the 2020 all-cause mortality in the US. They all knew that masks don't stop respiratory viruses. That was not a new topic, despite how the propagandists in the media presented it as though humanity had never considered using masks before and had never studied them. And they all had to know lockdowns kill people. From a medical/public health perspective, that was 100% known prior to covid and always assumed would never happen in free countries b/c they don't work, cause harm, and are only used to intimidate and control people. The 2020 mortality rate growth in the US decelerated compared to the previous 7 years, despite a "raging" "deadly" "pandemic." How could they miss that?

Yet, no pushback. They let - and encouraged - children be harmed by this when they had to know (as even people like us did) that children were at 0% risk from "covid" and were not vectors significant to any spread. They forced patients to wear masks and have virtual appointments. They put up stand 6' apart signs everywhere for a completely made-up concept called "social distancing." Used tests they had to know were not designed for that purpose and wouldn't work. Barely a peep from any doctors. Even now, I have seen no sincere apologies or personal accounting from any medical professionals. Just some lame op eds acting as cover.

That's the part I struggle to forgive. I personally think it all comes back to why they are in medicine - to make money, get trophy spouses, and have a safe, recession-proof career with convenient hours. Not all, but IMO, most. From my perspective, that mostly explains why we saw the apathy and compliance we saw. The majority of doctors don't actually care about people or humanity.

The other factor is politics. Most of them are Democrats, and this was a Democrat instigated and enforced overreaction. They were all in. We can all remember that Trump tried to calm people down, saying (accurately) that the fatality rate would be below 1%. He also tried to stop the masks.

So, the "response" to covid became politicized, with anything Trump said being framed as incorrect and a die-hard adherence to flawed policies to try to stick it to Trump, Trump supporters, and conservatives in general. E.g., no neck gaiters - only paper "masks" - b/c the deplorables liked the neck gaiters. They wouldn't even advocate for the "vaccines" until after Trump was out of office and they could claim them as their own. (That's also the best argument against the claims they knew the drugs were harmful. If they had known that, they would have pushed it all on Trump as he was leaving office.)

The primary point being, society has come to embrace science and technology as the new gods. And, correlating with that, have deemed scientists and doctors the new priests, sages, and prophets, if not outright demigods. I hope that folks have learned their lesson. There's nothing special about the beliefs, opinions, or ideas of scientists and doctors. Science is nothing more than a process of observation, recording, and comparison. It's amazing to think that's all it is...compared to how society views it. It's been an eye-opener for me.

So, IMO, the views of doctors and scientists should be taken into account along with those of all the other subject matter experts, but we cannot look to them for more than an educated opinion. We cannot defer decision making authority to them. They don't have our best interests at heart and they have no special allegiance to truth or goodness, or even humanity.

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Copernicus's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly that the abandonment of formerly known things, such as masks not stopping a virus, natural immunity, the failures of prior attempts to make vacks against the common cold, the importance of free airflow (NOT obstructed by plastic shields) to disperse infectious particles, the emphasis on early treatment (people were barely offered even legitimate symptomatic care such as steroids!), the forced isolation and rejection of visitors and patient and family advocates at the bedside - all of this should have been ringing alarm bells for most doctors. For some reason, it didn’t.

To be fair, I doubt most docs pay attention to yearly mortality rates. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Befferz's avatar

I wonder why we don't hear more whistleblowers now that the dust has cleared?

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Peter Schott's avatar

This - x1000!

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Anthony's avatar

And expanded the market for tons of rare conditions that are popping up all over the place.

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daiva's avatar

Skyrocketing tons of common and garden variety conditions as well—these arguably even more consequential in moolah terms 😒 (Though their cousins named rare sure steal the greatest limelight deal.)

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Anthony's avatar

Good point. In the end it's the same. People will need the medical establishment to fix what the medical establishment did to them.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Permanent patients they are trying to create.

Just like the transgender victims/enthusiasts.

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Annie's avatar

Permanent until the vaxx does them in.

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CMCM's avatar

Exactly. At the very least, if all this wasn't deliberate and intentional harm, at the very least they didn't care if people were injured for life because of the potential to sell the injured lifelong, expensive drug "remedies". So win-win either way, I guess.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Hmmm ... reminds me of the legal profession: Lawyers in Congress and regulatory agencies pass garbage legislation. Commoners mortgage the farm to hire other lawyers to save their livelihoods. (Sorry, Jeff. True in more cases than not.)

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

"It is not rare when it is in your chair."

As the saying goes...

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AJF's avatar

Even pre jab there were many auto immune issues that remained un-named. There are just many more now. The body is attacking itself when it's immune system (which is barely understood by the medical community) is, pardon my French, f...ked with!

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daiva's avatar

The notorious non-diagnoses called syndromes (literally meaning just a collection of symptoms) proliferate like spring bunnies 🤬😢

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Annie's avatar

These were probably caused by the other vaxxes and shots we inflict on our body. Never again will I or my family get any of their shots.

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Copernicus's avatar

Our kiddo had a named rash (name being simply a description, actually, in this case, of where it shows up on the body) after their one-year shots. At the time I did not connect the two, but after the last few years, I've learned a lot, and I know it was related.

Curiously, our optometrist commented that her child had the rash recently, although that appeared post-ear infection. I told her about our kiddo's experience, hoping that perhaps it would open the door for her to question the utility of childhood vacks.

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Annie's avatar

I believe that's where asthma, eczema, ear infections etc come from. Not saying you can't get it but these shots are exacerbating the problem.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

My son was plagued with "non-contact dermatitis". I asked the pediatrician what's that? He said, that just means his skin is irritated but we don't know why. Then he said, "He probably just got into something". When I said, "Wouldn't that mean he was in CONTACT with something?". He ignored my question and prescribed antihistamines. I don't remember if his bouts were clustered around his vaccines.

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Copernicus's avatar

🤦‍♀️

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

They're literally taking many illnesses, clumping them together, and calling it some new incurable "syndrome". It's pathetic.

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MatthewJohn's avatar

"Doesn't look like Fauci's retinas might be occluded when it comes to visualising illicit profits."

Does anyone really think Tony Fauci actually took his bio-weapon "vaccine"?

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devoalan's avatar

Not an effing chance.

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CaplT's avatar

Well he had COVID twice and paxlovid, which recycled the COVID both times.

Who knows? If not he is also Proof positive that even the elderly could have survived with just vitamins and supplements.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Your second paragraph is true. There's zero proof Fauci "got covid", "took the vax", nor "took Paxlovid". The stats show reasonably healthy people under 69 (99+%), even the elderly- 70+ (94.9%) fought off covid very well. It's the ones with pre-existing co-morbities that suffered and died. Literally the survival of the fittest. This was known by the CDC in Sept 2020. Fauci's criminal history pertaining to AZT for HIV+ people shows his intent. Make a ton of money off of Remdesivir, the vaxes and the new Paxlovid by pushing FEAR. The wonderful by-product is eliminating "useless eaters".

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daiva's avatar

Comes as reliably as the sun rising 😏

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Except that BG is reliably determined to DIM the sun.

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daiva's avatar

Even bg's menacing powers ain't enough to prevent its daily advent above the horizon 😏

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Cathy's avatar

Nope. Not a chance he took it

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Shelly S's avatar

Truly, I’d like to know how many, if any, of those in power actually TOOK the vax. I wonder if Falsey did. A syringe can be filled with anything....

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daiva's avatar

Def can't be known one way or another; we're free to speculate all the way to the Moon and back (wink wink nudge nudge) and then sixteen ways to Sunday ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For my part, I do have my strong doubts as to the bête noire extraordinaire and his immediate entourage. But concerning the middle echelon... well, I'd bet many (most?) got sky-high on their own supply 🤔 A remarkably well-coordinated mother-of-all-psyops has been globally deployed, after all.

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Shelly S's avatar

Yes; could be. As you say, we’ll never know. But God does. That gives me comfort.

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Gabriella's avatar

Love Toby Rogers! He is so amazingly insightful. He stated in one of his posts that he suspects that most of the trans kids are on the autism spectrum. Makes a lot of sense as many can be socially awkward.

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michigan.rob's avatar

Please supply proof of "weaponized virus" in legitimate study showing isolation and purification via the scientific method. Massive lie and I request that you stop promulgating it, because when the evil PTB and parroting MSM fake the NEXT ONE and proceed with the same "stop the spread" totalitarian measures, I'm blaming you and all your cohorts here who "believe" in viruses.

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daiva's avatar

Nice, well done. Blame all the woes of our lost world on avg Joe & Jane. They had it coming for them, fully deserved for not doing the science in depth and trusting the foundational intricate microbiology concept that generations were with over a century+.

The evil ptb plotters rub their filthy hands and giggle delighted.

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michigan.rob's avatar

No, I blame people like you who openly promote the idea of a "virus" without supplying the requisite proof, thus parroting something you simply "heard" and did not corroborate. That's called pushing a lie and, after three+ years of this bs, I'm really sick of it. Supply proof of both a "virus" (isolated, purified, and shown to be the cause of a unique disease) and then of said "virus" as a "bioweapon." Otherwise, I will continue to call you and others out on it. Stop promoting something that has never been proven.

And yes, the evil ptb plotters DO indeed rub their filthy hands and giggle at people like you who are so easily duped. They can literally say anything and you'll believe them. If you don't know that the world is under total control by these plotters via these manufactured events (called "psyops"), then you've got a big learning curve. They're already planning the next one. And when it occurs, are you gonna don a mask and walk around like the proverbial retard (as I CONTINUE to see people doing) and talk endlessly about the unproven "virus" that's gonna kill us all? Do that again and, yes, I WILL "blame" you for feeding the narrative and telling the plotters that they can do and say whatever they want and get away with it.

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daiva's avatar

Through all this thick fog of bubbling righteous zeal, haven't ya mayhaps noticed we're in the same leaky boat you rock so hard, ohh the Noblest of Enlightened Warriors? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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michigan.rob's avatar

Classic gaslighting technique to avoid the all-important request I made of providing proof of the claim, first, of viral existence and, second, of its supposed “weaponized” form (where the first lie necessitates the second). Good on you. Call me names and make it about me and some problem I have in suggesting that others (or you, in this case) provide proof of a bs claim (which, as usual, can't be done). Three+ years of consistency on that score. Thanks for your help.

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daiva's avatar

💬 all-important request I made

And right here, my dear pupils, we have the very gist/nub/crux of the Problem with mfm (Medical Freedom Movement) 😢 Hereby I prescribe a jumbo doze of medication the valiant robot-fighting lady distributes generously & liberally. It’s on you to take it 🙂

🗨 Please protect your beautiful heart, please observe the happenings closely and pray for clarity of your thinking. There is a lot of dirt happening, a lot of manipulation. And it is *far more complex than the facade* of the in-battles that you hear about. No matter what you see, guard your heart, pray to have the wisdom to do everything from love, and to tell good people from the liars.

🗨 We are living during interesting times, and we are experiencing the dynamic that many of our beloved ancestors had to tackle during the critical junctures of history before.

tessa.substack.com/p/mfm-healing

Abandon the level of overwhelmingly confusing granular detail (incl virus vs no-virus fight). Zoom radically out to see the big picture 🙂

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PS Virus is a model, subject to (re)definitions. Just like its nemesis terrain & exosomes one sure is. Map, not reality. A simplification, inevitably. As models go, some are useful. Others not so much. The entrenched former has clearly gone awry.

So what’s to be done? Keep the useful parts and discard the rest. Synthesise & update the evolving knowledge to better account for mounting evidence—precisely the way the healthy science has always worked since its inception in times immemorial 🙂

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