there was information right from the start. there was no reason to bash the ones that did not want the jabs. there was no reason to call them names. they are all christians too, or at least so they say. what is wrong with telling people the truth? is that not christian too?
I have a much harder time giving grace to the people who were gleefully vicious to the unjabbed and who vaunted their jab status like they were superior humans. That does stick in my craw.
Beware of ignorance when in motion; look out for inexperience when in action, and beware of the majority when mentally poisoned with misinformation, for collective ignorance does not become wisdom.
I was. My husband died right before covid, of cancer. That's expensive. Anyhow, I wound up losing our home in a blue city over just one year's delinquent property tax, while he had cancer. I had to move in with my brother. Covid hit, and he and his wife---rabid Trump haters, conservative haters--- fell hard for the ensuing fetishes of masks, 6 ft social distancing, etc. As soon as the jabs came out, they told me I had to submit or get out. I had nowhere to go, but they didn't care, my problem. A friend of mine saved my life by getting me a fake you-know-what. Otherwise, I'd be living in my car. Living in an extremely crime-ridden blue city, realistically, I'd be dead by now. I am bitter, very bitter...endured tons of garbage like how I should be denied Social Security, medical care, that I'm a selfish murderer. They claimed their equally vaccinated son and friends would not come to the house because of me. Utter, clinical madness, and it wasn't just them, it was everyone, damn near, in the Dem party. Just vicious behavior, very evocative of the old Salem with hysteria. I won't ever forget. I can't.
My heart goes out to you. It’s one thing for acquaintances, and those so-called friends, but when your family turns on you, the pain must be agonizing.
I am so sorry for the loss of you husband and for the loss of love from your family. I'm grateful you remained strong and steadfast in your faith and values and I want you to know that you are not alone in anything. God and His people are beside you. Thank you for sharing your story, it helps the rest of us to remain strong as well, knowing we are also not alone. My prayers are with you and your family. May you always feel His presence and know His grace at all times. God bless you. And thank you again for sharing your story.
Oh Tori, I am so sorry for you that you endured such blatant evil from your own family at such a difficult and vulnerable time while still grieving!! Wow! You are rock solid and strong and courageous! I stand and applaud you and also give you a hug for your determination. And thank you to your friend who stepped up and covered you so you wouldn’t be homeless. Shame on your family.
Thank you for sharing and I do hope that someday you will be back on your feet, even stronger. I pray for a soft hear toward The Lord even in your anger and grief, and that God will bless you beyond your own imagination. That He will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten. I’m so sorry you lost your husband. Peace and Grace to you Tori.
You make me cry...but that's the silver lining in these bad things, that there is SO much good and so many good people. So grateful to witness this! Thank you for the prayers, I so treasure prayer above all else!
Honestly, out of all the comments I’ve read today YOURS hit me hard. I did stop and pray for you. Some of us stood up against this psychological operation and some of us…like you…stood up in the midst of excruciating circumstances. I thought about the book of Job in the Bible. No fault of his own but he lost everything. He stayed faithful to The Lord and I am in awe of that. God blessed him in the years later in such amazing ways. It doesn’t take away from the grief and pain you have had to walk through, but it does help to know God is for you and not against you, just like Job. If you are not familiar with Job look him up in the Bible. I can’t say I know much of anything but my heart is praying you come close to the heart of Jesus in your pain and suffering and that He will lift you up and set you back on your feet. Even years later…..God won’t forget what your family did to you. He can and will forgive them if they ask…. But God remembers your pain. Your tears are not for nothing. You are not forgotten, nor are you tossed aside. I don’t usually do this or say this stuff, but like I said, hearing your story hit me hard. Blessings upon blessings upon your head and heart Tori.
You are so kind...see, often times the pain lets us see the flip side, which is love. My story is not even so unique. I know of a young married woman, 3 kids, a husband debilitated by MS, and she was forced to choose between her job and her livelihood. Mercifully, she chose to risk her job---and the insurance that came with it---to stand up and refuse. She will be litigating this, now, so praying for favorable resolution for her. It's time for the tide to turn back to sanity. Thank you so much for your prayers...I know from experience that they work, if not immediately, then in God's time.
The story of yet another very strong and courageous woman! I am so glad she stood up and is now litigating!!! More of this!! will pray for her victory too! 💪🏻 💪🏻
Tori, I like how you put that - being able to see/experience the flip side. I never felt the love side as greatly as after being plunged into the devastating side. Equal but opposite I dare say? Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, we know each other, and Jeff's C&C helps facilitate it. ❤️
I can't like this post. But I totally get where you're coming from. It's an evil black cloud that has come over otherwise intelligent people. It's a little defeating. Not for me, it just pisses me off.
Oh wow. What a terrible and traumatic experience. I’m sorry you were so badly mistreated by people who should have known better and done better. And thank God for your friend.
my 2 best friends and my father were quite nasty. Stupid cow, murderer, egoist etc. Situation with dad cleared, but we avoid the subject. 2 best friends are now former, still on emailing basis but that is about it. Lots of people in the world!
Yes, so hard. And unjust. But, since Jesus did it, and tells us to, we have to find a way. I struggle with this, too. I haven't seen my daughter in almost two years because of this. She said hateful things, and she's a nurse so of curse she knows everything, and I responded poorly and now we are estranged. But I am working on giving that grace that Jesus gave to me....and it is hard. But He is worth it.
When you say "grace" I'm wondering if you equate it to absolution. Absolution is not our job. Our job is, as the result of "loving our neighbor," is praying for their salvation through repentance to the Lord, regardless of their behavior.
No. Not absolution. I am not God and cannot absolve people of their sins. I meant “grace” more in the sense of an empathetic understanding of their mistakes/choices and their consequences.
I’m not sure why you are belaboring this point so much. You know, I think I made it pretty clear in my previous post how I was using the word. There are several different definitions and usages and I was using one of them. 2d in this entry, if you must know.
I agree the info was available, but most people I know don't know history, don't think their own government would intentionally hurt them for profit, etc., don't know they are being censored. These are nice people who thought they were living in the America they grew up with. Stupid? Yes. I would have a great deal of trouble giving grace to the name-callers and mind-clouded people as well (I wasn't around any). But there are other hurting people.
I've done a lot of viewing and reading of NDE since my daughter passed, and one thing many explain is that there will be a life review and we'll watch and say to ourselves, "I should have done so much more in that situation."
unfortunately, most people don't do any research, not even the biologist I know. these are colleagues one has to trust them she said. Even the pages with info I sent went unread. She has a condition that forbids vaccines, but still goes on taking whatever available. I think that is not a smart way to live. Of course all of us make bad decisions. But we have all to live with what we did, and if we hurt others by doing so, you can always say sorry! Almost everyone I know forgave me my trespasses.
Yes, we should speak the truth, but in love. And stand on the truth. But, Praise God that He does not hold our sin against us. We are told to overcome evil with good. And, yes, it is HARD. It is hard when ppl still hate you. When they and the media make up lies about us or give excuses or are still stuck. But this is how the god of this world works. He blinds the eyes. So, for us, if we want to, we can find non-accusatory ways to speak that truth. We can still serve. We can come alongside and minister. And even if they will accept nothing else, we can pray, which we should be doing anyway. God knows our hearts and theirs. He is the just judge. And, for those who got it right this time, I am sure we have gotten something else wrong at another time and would want other ppl to still treat us with kindness. A traumitized animal gets sympathy and kindness and humans are of much more worth than they.
there was information right from the start. there was no reason to bash the ones that did not want the jabs. there was no reason to call them names. they are all christians too, or at least so they say. what is wrong with telling people the truth? is that not christian too?
I have a much harder time giving grace to the people who were gleefully vicious to the unjabbed and who vaunted their jab status like they were superior humans. That does stick in my craw.
Beware of ignorance when in motion; look out for inexperience when in action, and beware of the majority when mentally poisoned with misinformation, for collective ignorance does not become wisdom.
...William Boetcker
I wasn't around anybody like that, but I would feel exactly the same way.
I was. My husband died right before covid, of cancer. That's expensive. Anyhow, I wound up losing our home in a blue city over just one year's delinquent property tax, while he had cancer. I had to move in with my brother. Covid hit, and he and his wife---rabid Trump haters, conservative haters--- fell hard for the ensuing fetishes of masks, 6 ft social distancing, etc. As soon as the jabs came out, they told me I had to submit or get out. I had nowhere to go, but they didn't care, my problem. A friend of mine saved my life by getting me a fake you-know-what. Otherwise, I'd be living in my car. Living in an extremely crime-ridden blue city, realistically, I'd be dead by now. I am bitter, very bitter...endured tons of garbage like how I should be denied Social Security, medical care, that I'm a selfish murderer. They claimed their equally vaccinated son and friends would not come to the house because of me. Utter, clinical madness, and it wasn't just them, it was everyone, damn near, in the Dem party. Just vicious behavior, very evocative of the old Salem with hysteria. I won't ever forget. I can't.
My heart goes out to you. It’s one thing for acquaintances, and those so-called friends, but when your family turns on you, the pain must be agonizing.
Thanks for the verbal hug. Yes, it's actually kind of numbing. But that's what lets me go on.
I want to hug you as well. One day we'll be free.
Same!!
I am so sorry for the loss of you husband and for the loss of love from your family. I'm grateful you remained strong and steadfast in your faith and values and I want you to know that you are not alone in anything. God and His people are beside you. Thank you for sharing your story, it helps the rest of us to remain strong as well, knowing we are also not alone. My prayers are with you and your family. May you always feel His presence and know His grace at all times. God bless you. And thank you again for sharing your story.
And there it is...the GOOD and the love from others. I wouldn't want to relive it all, but my goodness, the flip side is pure love. Thank you.
Oh Tori, I am so sorry for you that you endured such blatant evil from your own family at such a difficult and vulnerable time while still grieving!! Wow! You are rock solid and strong and courageous! I stand and applaud you and also give you a hug for your determination. And thank you to your friend who stepped up and covered you so you wouldn’t be homeless. Shame on your family.
Thank you for sharing and I do hope that someday you will be back on your feet, even stronger. I pray for a soft hear toward The Lord even in your anger and grief, and that God will bless you beyond your own imagination. That He will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten. I’m so sorry you lost your husband. Peace and Grace to you Tori.
You make me cry...but that's the silver lining in these bad things, that there is SO much good and so many good people. So grateful to witness this! Thank you for the prayers, I so treasure prayer above all else!
Honestly, out of all the comments I’ve read today YOURS hit me hard. I did stop and pray for you. Some of us stood up against this psychological operation and some of us…like you…stood up in the midst of excruciating circumstances. I thought about the book of Job in the Bible. No fault of his own but he lost everything. He stayed faithful to The Lord and I am in awe of that. God blessed him in the years later in such amazing ways. It doesn’t take away from the grief and pain you have had to walk through, but it does help to know God is for you and not against you, just like Job. If you are not familiar with Job look him up in the Bible. I can’t say I know much of anything but my heart is praying you come close to the heart of Jesus in your pain and suffering and that He will lift you up and set you back on your feet. Even years later…..God won’t forget what your family did to you. He can and will forgive them if they ask…. But God remembers your pain. Your tears are not for nothing. You are not forgotten, nor are you tossed aside. I don’t usually do this or say this stuff, but like I said, hearing your story hit me hard. Blessings upon blessings upon your head and heart Tori.
You are so kind...see, often times the pain lets us see the flip side, which is love. My story is not even so unique. I know of a young married woman, 3 kids, a husband debilitated by MS, and she was forced to choose between her job and her livelihood. Mercifully, she chose to risk her job---and the insurance that came with it---to stand up and refuse. She will be litigating this, now, so praying for favorable resolution for her. It's time for the tide to turn back to sanity. Thank you so much for your prayers...I know from experience that they work, if not immediately, then in God's time.
Echoing Sunnydaze’s prayers for you and also for your friend 🙏
This exchange between the two of you was very moving to read ❤️
The story of yet another very strong and courageous woman! I am so glad she stood up and is now litigating!!! More of this!! will pray for her victory too! 💪🏻 💪🏻
Thank you! I will let her know how she is in the prayers of many
Tori, I like how you put that - being able to see/experience the flip side. I never felt the love side as greatly as after being plunged into the devastating side. Equal but opposite I dare say? Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, we know each other, and Jeff's C&C helps facilitate it. ❤️
Amen and Amen!
I can't like this post. But I totally get where you're coming from. It's an evil black cloud that has come over otherwise intelligent people. It's a little defeating. Not for me, it just pisses me off.
I guess all of this reveals what we're truly made of.
This is the truth of it as you say. When the full force of Evil is pushed into our faces, we are compelled to decide. One way or the other.
That's very harsh. Wow! Glad you made it okay. They will get theirs.
I grew up in Salem Ma,,,,, the entire ‘pandemic’ response definitely made me think of the similarities with the witch hysteria……
That sounds horrifying. Thank God for your friend and as far as your blood relatives, may they one day see how demonic they were/are.
Oh wow. What a terrible and traumatic experience. I’m sorry you were so badly mistreated by people who should have known better and done better. And thank God for your friend.
Miraculous, I call it!
my 2 best friends and my father were quite nasty. Stupid cow, murderer, egoist etc. Situation with dad cleared, but we avoid the subject. 2 best friends are now former, still on emailing basis but that is about it. Lots of people in the world!
Yes, so hard. And unjust. But, since Jesus did it, and tells us to, we have to find a way. I struggle with this, too. I haven't seen my daughter in almost two years because of this. She said hateful things, and she's a nurse so of curse she knows everything, and I responded poorly and now we are estranged. But I am working on giving that grace that Jesus gave to me....and it is hard. But He is worth it.
I’m so sorry. That’s very hard 😞 Praying for you.
When you say "grace" I'm wondering if you equate it to absolution. Absolution is not our job. Our job is, as the result of "loving our neighbor," is praying for their salvation through repentance to the Lord, regardless of their behavior.
No. Not absolution. I am not God and cannot absolve people of their sins. I meant “grace” more in the sense of an empathetic understanding of their mistakes/choices and their consequences.
The definition of Biblical Grace is undeserved favor. Is that what you meant?
I’m not sure why you are belaboring this point so much. You know, I think I made it pretty clear in my previous post how I was using the word. There are several different definitions and usages and I was using one of them. 2d in this entry, if you must know.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grace
I agree the info was available, but most people I know don't know history, don't think their own government would intentionally hurt them for profit, etc., don't know they are being censored. These are nice people who thought they were living in the America they grew up with. Stupid? Yes. I would have a great deal of trouble giving grace to the name-callers and mind-clouded people as well (I wasn't around any). But there are other hurting people.
I've done a lot of viewing and reading of NDE since my daughter passed, and one thing many explain is that there will be a life review and we'll watch and say to ourselves, "I should have done so much more in that situation."
unfortunately, most people don't do any research, not even the biologist I know. these are colleagues one has to trust them she said. Even the pages with info I sent went unread. She has a condition that forbids vaccines, but still goes on taking whatever available. I think that is not a smart way to live. Of course all of us make bad decisions. But we have all to live with what we did, and if we hurt others by doing so, you can always say sorry! Almost everyone I know forgave me my trespasses.
“Truth without love is brutality and love without truth is hypocrisy.”
~Warren Wiersbe
Yes, we should speak the truth, but in love. And stand on the truth. But, Praise God that He does not hold our sin against us. We are told to overcome evil with good. And, yes, it is HARD. It is hard when ppl still hate you. When they and the media make up lies about us or give excuses or are still stuck. But this is how the god of this world works. He blinds the eyes. So, for us, if we want to, we can find non-accusatory ways to speak that truth. We can still serve. We can come alongside and minister. And even if they will accept nothing else, we can pray, which we should be doing anyway. God knows our hearts and theirs. He is the just judge. And, for those who got it right this time, I am sure we have gotten something else wrong at another time and would want other ppl to still treat us with kindness. A traumitized animal gets sympathy and kindness and humans are of much more worth than they.