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Stacy's avatar

Yeah, I was reading about that a while back. Much like Hollywood hacks who can’t come up with anything new, pharm researchers are studying ways to redesignate old drugs. Impressive stuff. And now the marketing departments are studying ways to justify price hikes on these classics.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Stacy, I don't think so. Once a drug is off-patent, it's off-patent, and anyone can make it, usually for very little money. It can no longer be a huge income-producer. That's why Big pHarma wants such drugs eliminated - it opens the market for their next 'blockbuster.' The reason physicians prescribe existing drugs 'off-label' (meaning 'not for one of the indications for which it was approved by the FDA') is that it's so expensive to do all of the careful clinical studies to establish the effectiveness of the drug for a new indication that no one does it - it's just prescribed off-label.

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Stacy's avatar

All I’m saying with all of this is that Big Pharma is going to try to cash in on old things made new and make it harder for us to do an end run on their system. I’m not saying it’s going to be impossible to do so, they’re just going to try to make it harder than it already is and make as much profit off the whole thing along the way.

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Stacy's avatar

Fair point, but I don’t underestimate the industry’s ability to reformulate and rename. That’s how they make money off of their synthetic vitamins, fish oil esters, hormones, and other natural substances that can’t be patented. All they have to do is make a minor change and submit it for approval. There are too many who will not go outside what their doctors order and what their insurers will cover (we take chances there with off-label usage). People here are not afraid to give or take horse drench, but we’re not afraid to go outside the mainstream. Most aren’t. Sorry. Modern medicine always finds a way when there’s money to be made.

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Fla Mom's avatar

There is no such thing as ‘make a minor change and submit it.’ Except for the Covid injection products, the regulatory burden for doing anything related to human subjects research is, well, incredibly burdensome and slow and extremely expensive.

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Stacy's avatar

As we saw with Operation Warp Speed. Please refer to my latest comment of the 5th and have a good evening.

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Kathy's avatar

I don’t think it’s Pharma researchers. There is actually a war on report repurposed , off label drugs. But a handful of doctors and scientists with integrity have been looking for repurposed drugs to help with cancer, since chemotherapy seems to fail in most cases. Dr. Paul Marik has written a book called “Cancer Care” which can be obtained through Amazon, as well as available to be downloaded for free from the FLCCC website. He compiled the results from 900 studies on medicines and nutraceuticals, which can either be combined with chemo, or even used on their own. I have a dog with cancer, and I have already started giving him fenbendazole.

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Stacy's avatar

Fair point, please excuse my cynicism. I’m a cog in the healthcare industry machine, as a bedside nurse, and I know how the sausage is made. It’s too easy to lose sight of the possibility that a few studies may get funded and approved in an honest manner. I know for sure that there remain honest researchers. However, I stand by the probability of those meds becoming much more precious if and/or when the cancer centers start running them into people.

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Runemasque's avatar

How do you give it to your dog?

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Kathy's avatar

I have been giving him 200 mg a day of Safeguard Dewormer, available from Amazon and cheap. My dog weighs 70 pounds. It would be good to talk to a functional medicine veterinarian if there is such a thing. most veterinary oncologists Are like the human ones, and only prescribe the latest and most expensive chemo. I also give him a high absorption, curcumin, barbering, fish, oil, ubiquinol, vitamin E , And melatonin. I’m using a similar protocol to what Dr. Marik Writes in his book “ Cancer care”. As far as using ivermectin for dogs with cancer, there are a few breeds that might be sensitive to high doses due to a gene called MDR one. Australian shepherd are one of those breeds and my dog is half Aussie. I would like to get a genetic test to see if he could also take ivermectin.

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Stacy's avatar

Good luck to your doggy.

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Kathy's avatar

Thank you!

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