I didn't say that he was lying, nor did I disagree with his conclusion.
I pointed out that as a first generation immigrant, who had far more opportunity here than he would have had in his home country, he could have made his point without trashing the people who live here. He could have explained his rags to riches story without including…
I didn't say that he was lying, nor did I disagree with his conclusion.
I pointed out that as a first generation immigrant, who had far more opportunity here than he would have had in his home country, he could have made his point without trashing the people who live here. He could have explained his rags to riches story without including "Americans are lazy complainers" which is the distillation of what he said. It reeks of ingratitude.
Plus there are plenty of Americans that do work hard and have their own rags to riches story (I know as I'm one of them). And there are plenty of bums in his home country that don't work hard or there would have been more opportunity there and he would have never left.
I have no problem with truth whatsoever. I do have a huge problem with people who come here, manage to make a pile of money, then trash Americans. Seriously, how is this any different from Illhan Omar?
The shallow thinking in these comments amazes me sometimes. I take issue with an immigrant trashing native born Americans and you claim I can't stand the truth? Did I say what he said was false? Of course not. I took issue with his ingratitude, which I made perfectly clear in my comment.
Edit: After thinking about this more I don't mean to take this all out on Reader. My frustration is that this self-hatred is what thirty years of media-induced collective guilt and "turn the other cheek Christianity" has wrought. An immigrant trashes native-born Americans as lazy complainers, and instead of being annoyed at the chutzpah of it, commenters fall all over themselves to agree with it.
I see your point, JC. He did admit reactions like yours have merit. My takeaway is more like, “Lazy people don’t succeed, and they’re stupid to complain about it.” That seems like a universal truth. It’s ironic in the land of opportunity.
Here’s the difference; I don’t take anything he said as trashing Americans.
I took it as Reader voicing surprised criticism on the poor work ethic of some people that he’s encountered. He’s entitled to his opinions and need not be a native born American to be justified in having them. This is no different than men expressing criticisms about abortion or non-medical professionals criticizing vaccines or people without children criticizing schools for indoctrinating kids.
I didn't say that he was lying, nor did I disagree with his conclusion.
I pointed out that as a first generation immigrant, who had far more opportunity here than he would have had in his home country, he could have made his point without trashing the people who live here. He could have explained his rags to riches story without including "Americans are lazy complainers" which is the distillation of what he said. It reeks of ingratitude.
Plus there are plenty of Americans that do work hard and have their own rags to riches story (I know as I'm one of them). And there are plenty of bums in his home country that don't work hard or there would have been more opportunity there and he would have never left.
I have no problem with truth whatsoever. I do have a huge problem with people who come here, manage to make a pile of money, then trash Americans. Seriously, how is this any different from Illhan Omar?
The shallow thinking in these comments amazes me sometimes. I take issue with an immigrant trashing native born Americans and you claim I can't stand the truth? Did I say what he said was false? Of course not. I took issue with his ingratitude, which I made perfectly clear in my comment.
Edit: After thinking about this more I don't mean to take this all out on Reader. My frustration is that this self-hatred is what thirty years of media-induced collective guilt and "turn the other cheek Christianity" has wrought. An immigrant trashes native-born Americans as lazy complainers, and instead of being annoyed at the chutzpah of it, commenters fall all over themselves to agree with it.
I see your point, JC. He did admit reactions like yours have merit. My takeaway is more like, “Lazy people don’t succeed, and they’re stupid to complain about it.” That seems like a universal truth. It’s ironic in the land of opportunity.
Here’s the difference; I don’t take anything he said as trashing Americans.
I took it as Reader voicing surprised criticism on the poor work ethic of some people that he’s encountered. He’s entitled to his opinions and need not be a native born American to be justified in having them. This is no different than men expressing criticisms about abortion or non-medical professionals criticizing vaccines or people without children criticizing schools for indoctrinating kids.