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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

The cords of death encompassed me,

And the torrents of vileness terrified me.

The cords of Sheol surrounded me;

The snares of death confronted me.

In my distress I called upon Yahweh,

And cried to my God for help;

He heard my voice out of His temple,

And my cry for help before Him came into His ears.

. . .

He sent from on high, He took me;

He drew me out of many waters.

He delivered me from my strong enemy,

And from those who hated me, for they were too mighty for me.

They confronted me in the day of my disaster,

But Yahweh was my support.

He brought me forth also into a broad place;

He rescued me, because He delighted in me.

— Psalm 18:4-6; 16-19 LSB

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Daniel Agius SR's avatar

Psalm 91: 14-16

Because he clings to me, I will deliver him;

I will set him on high because he acknowledges my name.

He shall call upon me, and I will answer him;

I will be with him in distress;

I will deliver him and glorify him; with length of days I will gratify him and will show him my salvation.

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Robin Esau's avatar

Remember to pray for the Jews in Europe. The news out of Amsterdam last night was heartbreaking.

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Daniel Agius SR's avatar

I pray for the world

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Sherry 1's avatar

OK, I found the info. Awful.

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Sherry 1's avatar

Where can I learn about this? Do you have a link?

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Jacquijacq's avatar

Thank you for posting that!

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Daniel Agius SR's avatar

You’re an Angel

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I posted this on FB on October 24:

I know our nation doesn’t deserve mercy, that we may have exhausted it. I also know the Lord is more merciful than I can imagine.

Hallelujah that He IS!

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Bones's avatar

Yes, if we are godly as disciples of Christ and make America godly again. Then God will continue to bless us and our country.

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SM's avatar

I keep waking up feeling elated! Overjoyed is an understatement. So thankful šŸ™šŸ¼

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Julie's avatar

Hallelujah

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Carlos's avatar

Always sharp Janice….Amen

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Pamela's avatar

I was reviewing this very passage in my memory work this week! Love it!

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

My favorite part (if I can choose) is the first word of verse 7. All that hard stuff in the first 6 verses . . . THEN. Look at the actions of the Most High on David's behalf. And ours. Praise Him.

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Bones's avatar

We need to be godly and make America godly again; if we do that, and God will continue to bless us and our country

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Bones's avatar

Your spirit is so helpful every time I read your comments. Really it’s time for Christians to be much more Christlike disciples everywhere and to everyone.

God gave Trump the victory and gave America another chance to become godly again not just great again. We must do the legwork as disciples to make this country a country. God chooses to continue blessing.

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Daniel Agius SR's avatar

It is indeed good. Thanks for posting it. But remember, it’s all for naught if they steal the House

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DS's avatar

Daniel, continue praying for a successful outcome in the House vote!

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I need to temper our well earned celebration just a little.

Please check this report from outstanding journalist Daren Beatty who has been all over J6 from the beginning. You may remember this human excrement "capitol police officer" Michael Fanone as one of the key "witnesses" at the J6 star chamber faux investigation of their faux insurrection. There must be full accountability. People need to go to prison for life. People need death sentences. Fanone and Pelosi are two which need the latter.

https://revolver.news/2024/11/anti-trump-former-cap-police-officer-in-the-mountains-armed-drinking-beer-ready-for-shootout-with-agents/

You definitely want to read this from Omega. While we were able to overcome the theft of Trump's election by God's divine Intervention, we still have major problems with mail in ballot fraud: https://omega4america.substack.com/p/down-ballot-steal-the-whack-a-mole

Third, my third world Arizona s_Election system is still at work cranking out questionable numbers and likely when said and done, stolen elections. In my puny county of Cochise, with only about 87k voters, the criminals have reported they are, as of yesterday evening, only about 43% through counting with all kinds of problems with the counting tabulators!! With the 55 small precincts we are supposed to have, hand counted on election day, we would have already had a certifiable result by the end of election day. But instead, the criminals have implemented a wholesale ballot fraud system. Maricopa, the home of election theft in AZ, is doing equally poorly.

Yes, we appear to be on our way to a massive win nationwide, but we have to get rid of mail in ballots and programmable machines. Clearly there is still much work to be done. And we can do a lot of it at County level...

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

Speaking of voter fraud:

The 2020 election had Biden with over 80M votes... largest ever for any candidate with Trump capturing 74M for the second highest total ever.

The 2024 election had Harris with collecting approximately 65M votes and Trump with approximately 74M votes which matches his 2020 results.

Given this election was more intense than 2020 (both sides emphasized the importance of this election)...

Why isn’t this discrepancy even talked about...? Not one Pundit has blamed the defeat on a lower democratic turnout. Something ain’t right.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

The only thing I heard is that some Dems wonder about 20 million votes missing as if 2020 was the baseline. I think it lends more credence to Trump, although I think his loss was to his advantage now since there is an opportunity to clean house. Imagine him having continued with Pence as VP and the swamp creatures in his cabinet.

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Juju's avatar

Yes, once again ā€œthey meant it for evil but God meant it for good.ā€ Had Trump won the presidency then he would have been gridlocked. And we would have no one today in a position to clean up this mess. But now he has a blank check to do what he was meant to do.

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

I totally agree with your take on regarding the 2020 loss as an advantage. Trump can take care of the preliminaries well before inauguration. His first 100 days will be impactive and historic.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Would be hilarious if Democrats now claim he's not eligible because he won in 2020 ;)

Trump has a far better team in place now, is not encumbered by the ongoing Covid debacle and I think having a reset of his first administration is going to ensure that this time around he has fewer enemies on the inside.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

"Why acknowledging Trump actually won 2020 isn't a bad thing" headlines soon to emerge.

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

... that would be absolutely wild! Ha

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

They did a LOT of damage with the theft of 2020 and 4 years of abject corruption and crime.

We MUST NOT let this go to the wayside or we will relive it again. These people are evil demons. They must be fully prosecuted and sentenced. This must remain a priority until every damn one of them have faced justice.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, all those missing ballots in 2024 which stole the 2020, were fraudulent mail in ballots.

Thank God it was stopped for the 2024 Presidential election, but we can see they are still committing fraud on down ballot elections in many places.

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Stariel291's avatar

Yes. In Michigan the three witches of the Midwest still did their witchy thing and conjured up ballots for Slotkin. So obvious.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, its reprehensible. I pray they will be able to present the evidence to an honest judge, to prove the fraud in Michigan and jail the witches, or at least pour holy water on them!

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LMWC's avatar

It won’t happen. We have two more years of evil from them. The Michigan Supreme Court was likely turned Liberal for the distant future with two women Liberals winning on the non partisan ballot. 5-2 court now.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, to continue the lawfare against all of us, the lawfare may be brought on innocent people in Michigan, but like Arizona's corrupt s_Election system, it has far reaching consequences. If they steal the Senate seat from Lake (which they are on course to do) that has implications nationally. It looks like they will also steal the Senate seat in Nevada, again with national implications. Two critical Senate seats, stolen from EVERY Citizen in the USA.

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Carlos's avatar

Both

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Mary H.'s avatar

How can you explain this ? According to 2020 records there were only 133 million registered voters, BUT there were over 150 million votes cast? Hmmm.

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John A George's avatar

Republican lawyers were watching both inside and outside. The demoncrats couldn't bring in the boxes of ballots in the middle of the night, so the lower vote count. I saw a James O'Keefe (OMG) video showing this actually happening at a location.

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Verve's avatar

Do you have a link to that? It would be great to see

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Jen's avatar

yes, I have it in chart form and it's striking. Every 4 years lefty turnout has been right around that 65m mark and somehow they ginned up over 80m in 2020? That's just not possible. We knew it was fraud, but this is absurd.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I'd love to see your chart.

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Jen's avatar

sure thing - I am not sure how to get pictures to post in here though?

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Fred's avatar

Email it to Jeff with our request to post tomorrow!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

It looks like you can send directly to me. Click on my name then 'write a message' to me. I see that you can include attachments. Send it to Jeff, too, as Fred suggested - tell him you have 20 people in comments who want to see it!

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Kathy's avatar

Fraud.

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RK65's avatar

Realistically the EV box trucks with ballots couldn’t make it to their destinations because only four charging stations ($7+ billion) were built.

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

there you go! lol

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Laura Fisher's avatar

Another reason could be because they’re all sick and/or died because they all took the shot

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Folks on the left are talking about it - and claiming the the Republicans erased those 15MM votes this year.

Crazy...

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Everyone knows, especially the democrats and the corrupt media, that 2020 was stolen using massive wholesale mail in fraud. They voted for people who didn't vote, or were dead, or were in long term care facilities, they stole ballots with help from the USPS, they illegally ballot harvested - it was election death by a thousand cuts, including the manipulation of the programmable machines.

They will never admit it, NEVER! That is why Trump must make election integrity one of the highest priorities in his second term. There must be a full, deep, thorough investigation and meaningful legislation must come out of it to establish a valid constitutional process that ensures a verifiable, certifiable outcome.

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Jason A Clark's avatar

The funny part is that Substack suggested a post for me which I read and discovered was from a liberal crying about having to comfort his elderly wife in the middle of the night after the election because she's apparently fearful of her safety now that Trump won. Anyway, in the comments someone brought up the vote discrepancy and guess what? They're saying this proves the Republicans STOLE this election. You see, in their minds, the 15 million vote difference is because Republicans somehow stole those ballots and destroyed them.

Not a single person questioned this reasoning or was reflective enough to even question if Biden could have gotten 81 million votes.

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

I listened to a podcast where it is claimed that the excess vote manipulations were blocked in real time in places.

That could be true.

And explains why media waited so long to call things - they were waiting for "vote drops" that never came.

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Patty's avatar

I heard that statistic on a recent Steve Deace show.

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Carlos's avatar

The numbers ain’t right, we need one thing and one thing more than anything else today and that is the House of Representatives.

Who is going to believe that the DemonRats won by a little margin a week later……

We need as Jeff says to be happy and celebrate but also stay put and fight, fight…fight.

The real work starts now…

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/gop-pick-up-more-house-seats-inch-closer-to-majority-5756272

(without the trackers?)

Kathy, I learned from C&C commenters that the "?" and stuff after is some kind of link tracking data. It seems to work to remove them (except with youtube.com links which are formatted differently and the characters following the "?" designate the video name.

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Dianne Denson's avatar

They cheated

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

100% spot on correct. Two words: They Cheated!

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SB's avatar

I hear conservative pundits mentioning it. This week tho, they are all about celebration but said they'll dive deeper soon.

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Fred's avatar

šŸŽÆšŸŽÆšŸŽÆ!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

We’ve been praying and praying that GOD intervenes in their cheating and exposes them. We are praying fervently that GOD shines the light on the cockroaches and interrupts their dastardly demonic plans!!!!

We cannot get off our knees!

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Bandit's avatar

Amen! šŸ™āœļø

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Carlos's avatar

Amen

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Susan Seas's avatar

100%! Audit EVERY State!!

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, a good place to start, in order to prove that the machines and mail in ballots have got to go. They MUST BE REMOVED if we are ever to have elections of, by, and for the people again.

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Sherry 1's avatar

100% on šŸŽÆ

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JMButler's avatar

You would disenfranchise the old, the ill, the disabled .... There would have to be another way to let them vote

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Essay33's avatar

Good grief. How did they vote before? I worked as a polling inspector before mail in ballots. People could vote curbside, they didn't even have to come in, we took the materials to them. Of course we also were allowed to ask for ID back then. People could attest to a delivered ballot sealed and signed by the voter and by themselves. If they are so old, so ill and so disabled that they can't navigate the voting system that was in place for over two centuries, then maybe they aren't mentally and physically able to vote anymore. Seriously. By the way, do you think Jimmy Carter ACTUALLY voted?

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JMButler's avatar

I thought the implication of Daniel's comment was that people must attend in person. If you can't have mail-in ballots, as he suggested, that surely would make voting a lot more difficult and time-consuming?

I have no insider knowledge, it just seemed common sense. You will be far more aware of the possibilities.

And I fully expect somebody voted 'the right way' on behalf of Jimmy Carter!

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Hi JM, I appreciate your concern and want to take this opportunity to reply.

1. The last thing I would ever want to do is disenfranchise a US Citizen in good standing (no felony, etc) from voting. If I did that, I would be no better than the thieves stealing our elections - done in large part through mail in ballot fraud.

2. The way they have established mail in early voting is both unconstitutional and filled with fraud. They convinced a lot of seniors to accept it because they would not be disenfranchised. It was a lie.

3. There are ways to do early balloting which honors the "wisdomed" and experienced position in life of our Senior Citizens, which I am now a part of.

4. As it presently exists, we have no verifiable identity or chain of custody of the early ballots.

5. The simplest way to resolve that is to establish both by requiring early voters to follow one of two processes:

a. Take their ballot to a county office during a reduced early ballot period, and display their photo ID to county employee. County employee (who is also a notary public) would verify ID of the individual presenting to vote. Voter would then sign the signature envelope in the presence of the Notary. Notary would then co-sign the envelope witnessing and verifying they Properly identified the voter and witnessed their signature. Voter would then drop the ballot in a protected county ballot box. Chain of custody and ID fully established and ballot protected and back in the custody of the county for counting.

b. In the event a person was so disabled, handicapped, ill, that they could not go to a county office, they simply notify the mobile election board which counties are required to provide. The Mobile Election Board, consisting of a board leader, and two representatives, each from a different party, would drive to the disabled person's residence. They would then go through the same process in 5a above only at the residence. The process would end with the voter placing their ballot in the protected county ballot box they brought with them.

c. IN either of these processes, the constitutional issues of violation of the equal protection clause are completely eliminated, absolute chain of custody and identification of the voter is established at the critical moment when it needs to be - when the ballot comes back to the country for counting and the ballot is protected from nefarious handling by USPS and others - including ballot fraud NGOs.

I hope this answers your concerns but if not, please send me your additional concerns. We must get rid of mail in as it is presently done in order to restore election integrity. We also have to deal with the programmable machines but that is another issue.

Respectfully,

Dan

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JMButler's avatar

Hi Daniel

Thanks for your detailed response to my concerns. Absolutely agree about changing the way mail-in votes are currently dealt with in the USA.

I am in England (but have followed the US election obsessively) and we have a system which is based on mail-in votes which have to be applied for, sent to your home and which have unique identifiers for each vote. These I believe are checked off the list of names in your local area as they arrive, so they are difficult to multiply, but that has not stopped some irregularities in areas dominated by minority voters. We clearly need to use a similar system to the US one that you're advocating, with more in-person checks and cross-referencing.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Hi Essay33, JMButler,

I appreciate your concern JM, and want to take this opportunity to reply.

1. The last thing I would ever want to do is disenfranchise a US Citizen in good standing (no felony, etc) from voting. If I did that, I would be no better than the thieves stealing our elections - done in large part through mail in ballot fraud.

2. The way they have established mail in early voting is both unconstitutional and filled with fraud. They convinced a lot of seniors to accept it because they would not be disenfranchised. It was a lie.

3. There are ways to do early balloting which honors the "wisdomed" and experienced position in life of our Senior Citizens, which I am now a part of.

4. As it presently exists, we have no verifiable identity or chain of custody of the early ballots.

5. The simplest way to resolve that is to establish both by requiring early voters to follow one of two processes:

a. Take their ballot to a county office during a reduced early ballot period, and display their photo ID to county employee. County employee (who is also a notary public) would verify ID of the individual presenting to vote. Voter would then sign the signature envelope in the presence of the Notary. Notary would then co-sign the envelope witnessing and verifying they Properly identified the voter and witnessed their signature. Voter would then drop the ballot in a protected county ballot box. Chain of custody and ID fully established and ballot protected and back in the custody of the county for counting.

b. In the event a person was so disabled, handicapped, ill, that they could not go to a county office, they simply notify the mobile election board which counties are required to provide. The Mobile Election Board, consisting of a board leader, and two representatives, each from a different party, would drive to the disabled person's residence. They would then go through the same process in 5a above only at the residence. The process would end with the voter placing their ballot in the protected county ballot box they brought with them.

c. IN either of these processes, the constitutional issues of violation of the equal protection clause are completely eliminated, absolute chain of custody and identification of the voter is established at the critical moment when it needs to be - when the ballot comes back to the country for counting and the ballot is protected from nefarious handling by USPS and others - including ballot fraud NGOs.

I hope this answers your concerns but if not, please send me your additional concerns. We must get rid of mail in as it is presently done in order to restore election integrity. We also have to deal with the programmable machines but that is another issue.

Respectfully,

Dan

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Freebird's avatar

Daniel, you have my sympathy, what a travesty of Justice the voting system is in Arizona! I hope and pray that Trump might put Elon to work securing election integrity at the federal level, but you have a massive problem to correct locally as well.

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Sherry 1's avatar

I bet people would VOLUNTEER to get it cleaned up!

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

Daniel: ever since McCain was introduced to the Arizonan voter via the Beer Baron Hensley... Arizona politics has been corrupt ( it actually started before Hensley but he made come out into the open). Cindy McCain new Hensley is a complete waste of walking and talking DNA.

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barbara ford's avatar

was wondering about AZ and NV and why they are taking so long to count what has to be a relatively small number of ballots…hoping someone honest is watching closely for shenanigans…

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

You must understand that the people who are running this s_Election system in Arizona are the ones who built it and are now in charge in AZ. Unelected "governor" Katie Hobbs, unelected AG Kris Mayes, and unelected Sec State Adrian Fontes, used the s_Election system they built to steal 2020 and 2022 from the people and put themselves in power. LET ME BE CLEAR, they did not win in 2022, they stole the election. And now they are attempting to do the same thing in 2024 to keep Kari Lake out of the Senate and to keep many down ballot elections in their column. I hope and pray that Trump will order investigations into the 2020, and 2022 elections and perhaps we can get these criminals removed from office, prosecuted and sent to jail. But I'm they have also destroyed all the evidence. And there are many corrupt judges who have also been put in place to protect them.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

Don’t be shy when celebrating!!!

ā€œPraise Him with loud cymbals; Praise Him with clashing cymbals! Let everything that has breath praise the Lord. Praise the Lord!ā€

‭‭Psalms‬ ‭150‬:‭5‬-‭6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/psa.150.5-6.NKJV

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Make America Florida Again. So much real joy! Meanwhile, the fake joy is gone in the Kamala HQ bunker: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/downfall-kamala-2024-election

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CStone's avatar

So funny!!

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william howard's avatar

and Texas

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Kathy's avatar

Hey everybody: While we are enjoying this and very much relieved, I believe that come January there will be a massive protest, probably with undercover FBI in attendance trying to provoke violence, and trying to make us look like we are living up to the wrongful negative stereotype. Please spread the word, that we must not allow them to provoke us. Please keep praying for the safety of Trump and RFK, as well as peace among our citizens. We must not take the bait.

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Yep. Leave the bait alone.

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rolandttg's avatar

VERY important update to the cancer protocols I posted last month. Found out yesterday that the American Metabolic Laboratories in Hollywood FL where we get our HCG testing done to track the status of my (cured) breast cancer is closing. They are unable to reliably get the chemicals they need to do the tests, Same thing happened to the Navarro clinic in Manila , the Philippines a year ago April. As an additional problem, the rent is going to double at the end of the year, due to the influx of people into Florida and the resulting real estate boom. The business was as much a public service as anything else, as it was not that profitable. Most of the employees have been there 15-25 years, and are 50-60 years old. Please pray for them and the wonderful people that operated this company,

As I said in my posts, finding a painless non invasive way to check the status of the cancer outside the Rockefeller medical monopoly was THE single most stressful thing about our holistic healing protocol.

If you read G. Edward Griffin's "B-17. World without Cancer", you will see the original cabal cartel was the chemical industry. They ruled the world.

So now there is no public place I know of to do the testing in a reliable manner for cancer. Bobby K can't get in there quick enough.

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SA's avatar

I encourage you to research more on this topic. You do not need to do continual testing if you have resolved the source of the DNA damage. Cancer is not something that’s lurking in your system and you should not be afraid.

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-diseases/a-metabolic-view-of-cancer/#gsc.tab=0

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rolandttg's avatar

We have already gone to once per year, because you are right. Dr. Tennant told her the same thing when he called a few months ago. If that holds for a couple of years , we will probably discontinue. But as time goes on, Smokey is taking more liberties with her protocols, so I have to stay vigilant. That is why we still test.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Also, if you have never read Joe Tippen’s story (mycancerstory.rocks) and heard of his protocol, I would add that to your B17 regimen. Lastly, there are holistic cancer centers and functional medicine physicians who can help you order labs, as well. Here is another video on high dose melatonin therapy. If I remember correctly, it also mentions another cancer therapy using chemo and insulin therapies together, too, with that the insulin gets blood glucose down, which stresses all cells but cancer cells the most, then a quarter dose of chemo is given, which kills the highly stressed cancer cells, chemo over, insulin turned off, and healthy cells return to normal function, cancer cells get eradicated more quickly, melatonin helps protect healthy cells along the way, etc.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Roh4lQXneQg

There are many alternative cancer therapies available.

I hope you find sources for the tests you want to have done. I think you can find doctors who will work with you, just find a good chiropractor or functional medicine doctor.

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Bandit's avatar

You can also find the protocol on the substack of "2nd Smartest Guy in the World."

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rolandttg's avatar

We have read everything he wrote, and she credits his protocol,, more than anything else, with curing the cancer. I thought I said that in my posts. He died a few years ago, but did chemo and radiation before his Tippen protocol, so his immune system wa already severely compromised.

And I have seen absolutely nothing in any of the dozen plus cancer books I have read that endorses chemo drugs for anything but destroying the immune system, while torturing you at the same time.

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I.M. Nottaborg's avatar

I was blown away by the Kevin Hennings interview with Mike Adams that you can find on Rumble. I believe he and Tippens were both fans of Fenbendazole.

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Fred's avatar

In many states, you can order your own lab through Quest, LabCorp and Walk-In lab. The latter is MUCH less expensive. If not in FL, send DeSantis the info or check adjacent States.

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rolandttg's avatar

I'll check it out, but this is a very non standard test most doctors don't even recognize,, because it is too cheap and easy and painless. I have serious doubts anyone else can do it, as it is sort of a proprietary test

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

you mean your wife's (cured) breast cancer, no?

is there anything in the Levels program of Casey and Calley Means that will help her?

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rolandttg's avatar

Yes. It was cured by changing our lifestyle, largely diet, and taking key supplements . Casey and Calley have excellent advice, and anyone who wants to live a healthy life and /or cure a disease should listen to them very carefully. They are spot on, and RFK Jr. gave them all the time in the world to talk when he interviewed them, as did Tucker.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

The governors of California and Massachusetts, and possibly one or two other governors are saying they will resist the enforcement of federal laws. If that's their decision we should support their right to peacefully secede; secession isn't a dirty word.

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mimi's avatar
Nov 8Edited

Californians don't want to secede. Plenty of Harris supporters have had enough of Gavin Newsom.

Regarding Lurie, he's the heir to the Levis's fortune and spent so much money on his campaign that he essentially bought his election here in San Francisco. But a crummy selection of candidates didn't help. We'll see if he's able to accomplish anything.

But the good news we got rid of that awful London Breed who shut us down and promoted the clot shots.

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Beckadee's avatar

And Gascon in LA is gone too.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Just like back in 2016, I ask those who want to secede the following questions:

1. What currency are we going to use?

2. Who pays that Social Security and Medicare bill?

3. Who defends the borders against invasion?

Always blank stare from juvenile tantrum throwers.

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Bill Lacey's avatar

They can't leave with a clean credit card balance. They have to take their proportionate share of the national debt with them.

If CA, IL, MA and NY leave, that's a sizable dent in the national debt. I'm liking this plan!!

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Beckadee's avatar

Excellent point!

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Kemper Williams's avatar

It’s a great plan. Here in Texas when we leave (since we never voted to increase the deficit) we’ll just repeat what our forefathers in Gonzales, Tx said in 1836: COME AND TAKE IT

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

It shouldn't be a difficult process. Most of the world uses US Currency, no need for seceding states to stop. We can establish trade agreements as we do with other countries.

Congress refuses to close obsolete military bases. Once a state secedes we abandon the bases in those stares by an orderly process of moving all personnel and assets to bases in neighboring states; nothing like Biden's fiasco leaving Afghanistan.

Seceding state's senators and congress reps are removed from DC and all fed funds stop flowing to said states.

This could be a VERY healthy process for all concerned!

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

It's not like this has never been done before. The former Soviet "Republic" of Czechoslovakia split up peacefully into to two countries. The Czech Republic uses their own currency, Slovakia uses the Euro. You can take a train from Prague to Bratislava without showing ID.

Yugoslavia also split up, and I think it was to their benefit. The situation there was far more untenable than in the USA and so far they are peaceful.

Even Sudan managed this somewhat successfully although the newly formed countries remain a dumpster fire.

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Alan Davis's avatar

Clarify, the balkans had war for years and was very destructive. 30 years later it is now peaceful but many many deaths.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Thank Bill Clinton for many of the deaths

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Bandit's avatar

We shouldn't want them to be able to travel freely. They need to be illegal aliens and deported back to their states. They would find ways to continue to drain us of our tax dollars. It needs to be like the Berlin Wall to keep them out.

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Starsky's avatar

It would be very interesting if California decided to secede, seeing as how there is already a movement in place to split into two states: Coastal California and New California.

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Beckadee's avatar

And the 2024 map shows exactly where the boundary should be.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Even OT Israel split into two kingdoms. I've always thought Lincoln, and my Southern ancestors were stupid to fight a war. I suspect we would be in much better shape these days if the split had been peacefully managed.

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Bandit's avatar

That's exactly why the terrible blue states would be doing the US a giant favor by seceding.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

There are no blue states anymore! Just blue areas in red states that ruin life for the rest of the state.

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Bandit's avatar

Exactly the states I mean.

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Austin's avatar

No...just, "Here's your island. Figure it out."

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

1. Whatever currency you choose, can be a new currency, can be the US dollar (but without control of the federal reserve no more money printing), can be something else

2. The newly formed country can decide on whether or not to honor their obligations vis-a-vis medicare and social security towards their citizens. I think a share of the social security trust fund would be allocated per capita, same with the national debt.

3. That's up to the newly formed country, I'm pretty sure if it's California or Massachusetts they won't have a lot of trouble since they don't share a border with a hostile country. They could get whatever their per capita share of the defense equipment is with some back and forth trading. The resulting countries would probably have some nuclear capability too.

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Janet's avatar

Just talk. Like Bono doing a Thelma and Louise. These people lie. It’s their DNA.

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Alan Davis's avatar

For sure WA state - liberal hotbed and stronghold

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Daniel Agius SR's avatar

You can add CT to that list

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Bandit's avatar

Oh, how I wish they would secede! We would no longer have to support their terrible policies with our federal tax dollars.

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Wendy's avatar

Sadly, my state of Washington is resisting as well. 🄲

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FH's avatar

Note that Hair Gel and Awful Hochel used almost identical words/phrases.

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JW's avatar

If those staes and cities protect the illegals that Trump wants to deport then those that know they are on the list will be headed to one of those protected areas and voila! They will become Springfield Jr and Sr. Go for it!

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WP William's avatar

they need to be pressed, and declare as much

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Austin's avatar

Yes, to an island.....far......far.......far away. SEE YA!

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Sounds like you want to sign them up for a 3 hour tour on the SS Minnow. ā›µļøšŸ›ŸšŸļø

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Austin's avatar

Kinda like the Netflix series, Lost. Yeah....just like that!

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Never heard of it. I tend to stick with proven classics; Gilligan's Island.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Or remove all Federal funding.

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Susan Seas's avatar

No succeeding! That’s just handing over states to the evil ones. We the people don’t vote for that our voices are stolen! We need to rid ourselves of these installed tyrants in Every State!!

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Would you rather send in troops to force them to comply? A house divided cannot stand, so let them go, if that's the path they choose. It's their decision; enforce federal laws or separate.

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Bandit's avatar

The word is seceding. Succeed means to win.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Auto correct looses again 🄓

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Bandit's avatar

I hate auto correct. šŸ˜–

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AJoy's avatar

Yup NY Gov said same :/

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Anthony's avatar

I agree. States rights applies to all. Let them turn their states into 3rd world countries. It'll be an example and lesson to all sane states.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

so basically the same as red states from 2021-2025?

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Examples? I can’t think of a single federal law states defied. Litigated, sure. Defied? When?

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Daniel Agius SR's avatar

3 days later and the House is still not called. Why is that? Is it because that’s how long it takes to manufacture good counterfeit ballots?300+ electoral college votes, popular vote, flipped at least 3 senate and house seats NOW don’t get to 221? That says treachery is going on. What can a good reporter do about it?

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

It’s where all the deals are being made.

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Fred's avatar

Sam Brown and Lake should have won.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Like the CIA, the CDC is a rogue agency and the enemy of all Americans! If all they do is "reform" the agency, they will have solved nothing. The CDC must be ABOLISHED and never rebuilt. I would add the same is true of the CIA. They should not exist. They are only venues of oppression and corruption.

I am so glad to have Trump in office, but so help me, he better do more than just "reform" institutions that should not even exist in a FREE COUNTRY........................................................................................

The CDC Planned Quarantine Camps Nationwide

BY Jeffrey A TuckerJEFFREY A. TUCKER

....(It should go without saying but this ā€œshieldingā€ approach suggested here has nothing to do with focused protection of the Great Barrington Declaration. Focused protection specifically says: ā€œschools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.ā€)

In four years of research, and encountering truly shocking documents and evidence of what happened in the Covid years, this one certainly ranks up at the top of the list of totalitarian schemes for pathogenic control prior to vaccination. It is quite simply mind-blowing that such a scheme could ever be contemplated.

Who wrote it? What kind of deep institutional pathology exists that enabled this to be contemplated? The CDC has 10,600 full-time employees and contractors and a budget of $11.5 billion. In light of this report, and everything else that has gone on there for four years, both numbers should be zero.

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-cdc-planned-quarantine-camps-nationwide/

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Johnny-O's avatar

Thing is, I think nearly every agency has this problem. What to do about the Pentagon??? Colonel MacGregor said every person under consideration to run the defense department is business as usual. That is a huge, huge problem.

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Politico Phil's avatar

That IS a huge problem. The DoD (along with the CIA) are the ones that initiated and executed the Plandemic, developed the bio-weapon shot and deployed the shot in an attack on the American people. I have not heard one word yet about getting to the bottom of the bio-weapon kill shot and charging these people with Treason and Mass Murder.

I'm waiting............................ and STILL waiting for DeSantis.

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Mary H.'s avatar

RFK Jr goes into great detail of this in his book ā€œThe Real Anthony Fauciā€.

He will be a huge influence on any accountability. The fact that he has his foot in the door is HUGE!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yes... I have hopes for this.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Why not Colonel MacGregor or Tulsi Gabbard?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly, like Gen Flynn. Patriotism, Honor and Loyalty to one's oath need to be brought back and drilled into the military's officer corp... after purging ALL the corrupted, bureaucratic Generals and Admirals.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Completely agree. MacGregor is brilliant imo.

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Politico Phil's avatar

HOW MUCH PROOF IS NEEDED?

Dr. Mihalcea and her colleagues are doing yeoman's work that SHOULD be carried out by those in authority such as Gov DeSantis and now soon to be President Trump. This electron microscopy evidence will shock you to your core. There is no excuse for not prosecuting this issue!......................................................................

Electron Microscopy Of The Blood Of A 43 Year Old With 3 Pfizer Injections Shows Nano Razors From Dr Hortencia Bremer

https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/electron-microscopy-of-the-blood

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Sherry 1's avatar

Nuremburg2.0 is definitely required..at a worldwide level. Dr. Reinert in Germany has been all over this filthy injection and they threw him in jail to stop his work. DOD, CDC, FDA, UN, WHO, WEF, Gates Foundation, GAVI, Pfizer, Moderna…they all need to be held responsible.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I hope Trump pressures Germany about Reinert. He is a true hero.

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CHop's avatar

I remember Dr. Jane Ruby showed a video on her show late 2021/ early 2022 of German scientists describing the shots were like little razors cutting the inside of the vessels.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Me also.

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RSgva's avatar

CDC should, at a minimum, be subject to notice and comment and all the transparency of the administrative procedure act, even though what it produces is ā€œguidanceā€.

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Politico Phil's avatar

It is unConstitutional for the Federal Gov't to have such an agency. This belongs at the state level. At the national level, these types of agencies will ALWAYS end up being corrupted by big money and used as a tool for totalitarianism. Burn it down! Burn it all down to ashes.

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Emumundo's avatar

Holy mackerel! This is chilling!

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barbara ford's avatar

Here’s hoping Trump’s staff hailing from FL includes 1 Jeff Childers!!

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

And for the love of all that is holy, no more swamp creatures including Pompeo.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Pompeo is jockeying for a position but I don’t think Trump will touch him with a ten foot pole this time - Tucker has made Pompeo’s duplicity public and between him and RFKj having Trump’s ear, I think Pompeo may want to get a lawyer instead of fitting curtains for some imaginary White House role.

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Janet's avatar

He’s got to have time to give us CnC though.

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Attorney General Childers? Yes I'll take 2

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

That would be exciting!

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Tuco's Child's avatar

Redistribute Ukraine Funding to:

Gold Star Families

Hurricane Victims

Victims of Illegals

Deportation Flights

Please suggest more in response!

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DeAnna's avatar

J6 political prisoners and their families

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Valerie's avatar

Homeless veterans comes to mind

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Cowgirl Dee's avatar

Cvd vax injured

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Love this one

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Lorita's avatar

How about grandma and grandpa who because of runaway inflation are facing becoming homeless, can't send the grandkids birthday money, have to decide: pay rent, buy food, get real healthcare...the regime that kills by poverty.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Building a robust and compassionate rescue and rehabilitation organization for those who have been trafficked

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Tuco's Child's avatar

Great One.

The Left are Satanic!

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Kenpowoman's avatar

DJT keeps saying that stopping the trafficking is one of his top priorities.

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Renee Morris's avatar

Housing for all homeless Veterans.

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Tim R's avatar

taxpayers

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Austin's avatar

US border enforcement. And prosecution of whoever it was that came up with the CBP One app.

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MnmMom's avatar

National deptšŸ˜ž

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

How will weapons and radars and missiles help those folks?

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Do you think those fall from the sky, fully formed, into our inventory?

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Valerie's avatar

One thing I’m not seeing discussed much about the migrant crisis is that Trump MUST put in (or encourage the legislature to) strict penalties for companies hiring illegal workers. Until that happens, the greed of corporations to hire cheap workers will make all the other efforts negligible.

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Trilby's avatar

I know, right?! E-verify! That's a thing. Where did it go? Of course they can still get crap under-the-table jobs, but didn't a big chicken processing plant hire a whole bunch of 'em? It's not right, not legal.

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CHop's avatar

I can't speak for everywhere, but in Ohio, the governor gave legal status to Haitians. There are only immigrants from certain countries in which that is allowed which is why they transported(human trafficked) those from Haiti and not other countries. The kingpin in Springfield Ohio is being investigated as he trafficked them from the border and owned the homes he rented to them on government funds. Sometimes there were 20 cots to a home while the Haitians worked at the Dole plant. So the company did it legally.

Also, I believed companies were pressured by the government to commit to TENT & hiring immigrants

https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/20/americas-biggest-companies-pfizer-blackstone-pepsico-hiring-refugees/

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RunningLogic's avatar

The AG in Indiana also has just started an investigation into human trafficking by non profits and other entities.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

I would even suggest amnesty and a green card (after background check and only with no other criminal record) for the first illegal to rat out their employer.

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Valerie's avatar

I like this line of thinking.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Valerie,

Exactly!

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Beckadee's avatar

Yep

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Daryl Grant's avatar

Don’t forget what John Adam’s warning.

Our Constitution Was Made Only for a Moral and Religious People

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Stariel291's avatar

He also warned about a two-party system. Miraculously Trump beat that system with patience and persistence.

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Stuck In The Upside-Down's avatar

So, if they no longer get free money for living here … what exactly is going to happen? Does anyone actually think they will just leave? … Or is the crime rate going to skyrocket because of desperate people doing desperate things? Inquiring minds want to know 🧐

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william howard's avatar

we should set up deportation facilities & provide 1 way tickets back from where they came and some transition funds - use the carrot to get rid of them

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Trilby's avatar

I am hoping they will spend at least one unpleasant month in big beautiful detention centers. That way, once they get home, they'll tell their homies how crap it is here-- don't bother going.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I think they ought to set up refugee type camps for the illegals - with tents, crappy food and porta potties. Offer them free tickets home or permanent living in the camps. If tents are good enough for our homeless...

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shayne's avatar

Definitely the crime rate will cripple the cities once all the welfare to illegals is cut off. The sooner they are sent home the better, and many may stand in line for the planes back to their countries. The administration will have to watch out for airlines overcharging.

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Trilby's avatar

I'm glad their bounty is cut off, and I'm a NYer. We have thrown more than enough money at them. I cannot wait for the deportations to begin!

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Margie's avatar

I agree the cutoff is a beautiful thing, but the thing that concerns me is how will they support themselves once the cash flow dries up and before they get deported. More rampant crime might be in store.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

They RAN AWAY asa after he won last time.

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

I was thinking the same thing...also notice all the young able-bodied men in the photo Jeff posted of the line. Hmmmm

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Juju's avatar

Is that a strategy by the Dems to punish us by cutting their aid before Trump takes office and can deport them, knowing violence against us will erupt?

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Jaci's avatar

They will return to their homeland once Nesara is implemented.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Nesara? Really?

You've been huffing chemtrails again.

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JCrutcher's avatar

Exactly.

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reality speaks's avatar

We await the news that Trump cleans house in the FBI headquarters and DOJ. He has to fire every single prosecutor and install new ones he can trust.

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JCrutcher's avatar

Trump has to become the president, not the elect, to do certain things.

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Aloha50's avatar

Time to put aside the pom poms and get serious. Out of the gate, we face the likelihood of either John Thune or John Cornyn as Senate majority leader. How can this be? It is imperative that Trump step in here and let his will be known. Looming disaster.....

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DeAnna's avatar

Texans against Cornyn! 😔

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

He's the best argument ever for term limits and re-call referendums. We need to push hard for both in the new Texas House and Senate.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

RAND PAUL , please!!!!!

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Susan G's avatar

He doesn't want it.

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TW's avatar

All the more reason he should have it.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Amen. Those who seek power wield it most unworthily.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Absolutely. This is NO time to sit back and congratulate ourselves. We need to keep the momentum going under the Trump Mandate, "Fight! Fight! Fight!"

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Lorita's avatar

Right it should be a better choice

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